WEBVTT 00:00:29.779 --> 00:00:32.600 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.960 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:35.219 --> 00:00:37.539 tank camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:37.539 --> 00:00:41.240 to do with the outdoors. And I got it right this 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:43.100 time. I didn't fuck it up like I did the last 00:00:43.100 --> 00:00:49.399 two episodes. Yeah. Well, this is going to be 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:53.659 a fun one. We're, at least for the first half 00:00:53.659 --> 00:00:56.479 hour of this episode, we're announcing a little 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.840 challenge we're going to be doing. The man who 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.679 is going to be the judge of our challenge, Mr. 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:06.379 Duncan McCloud. Dougie, your name, right? Yes, 00:01:06.379 --> 00:01:12.299 sir. Yep, that's right. So we're doing the 5K 00:01:12.299 --> 00:01:15.760 Overland Challenge. The goal is that you've got 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.180 five grand and you've got to build out a rig 00:01:18.180 --> 00:01:21.040 with everything you need to do an overlanding 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.180 trip. But you have to pretend that your vehicle 00:01:25.180 --> 00:01:27.239 can be any year, but you have to pretend it's 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:32.620 like 1885. So there's no roads, nothing. So you 00:01:32.620 --> 00:01:34.500 got to have something that's fairly capable. 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:37.879 You have to have a way to cook, a way to be self 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:42.040 -sufficient. So a way to hunt. I mean, we'll 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:44.640 go through the rules here in a little bit, at 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.579 least for the most part. But yeah, I think this 00:01:47.579 --> 00:01:51.859 is going to be a fun one. Yeah. You don't have 00:01:51.859 --> 00:01:54.099 to actually buy anything. We're just doing like. 00:01:55.129 --> 00:01:57.049 Screenshots. All right, everybody, take that 00:01:57.049 --> 00:02:00.049 alone. Five grand. Let's get it done. I'm going 00:02:00.049 --> 00:02:06.530 to add a link to the challenge rules in the show 00:02:06.530 --> 00:02:08.870 notes, and there will be a link in that document 00:02:08.870 --> 00:02:11.969 that sends you to like an example of how to format 00:02:11.969 --> 00:02:15.289 your submissions. I guess with that being said, 00:02:15.449 --> 00:02:19.009 we are going to open this up to listener submissions. 00:02:20.250 --> 00:02:27.419 This episode comes out on. July 1st. Oh, look 00:02:27.419 --> 00:02:30.919 at that. July 1st this episode will drop. So 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.259 you need to have your submissions in by July 00:02:34.259 --> 00:02:40.639 8th for us to judge them. Whoever we think has 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.699 the best submission from a listener, we'll send 00:02:42.699 --> 00:02:48.120 them a sticker or something. Yep. Five grand 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:52.840 cash. Yeah, five grand cash. Sure. And the winner 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.840 is... The winner is Alex McKinley. Oh, wild. 00:02:58.500 --> 00:03:03.539 Not insider at all. Rigged. I am going to win 00:03:03.539 --> 00:03:08.020 this, just so you guys know. I'll be the judge 00:03:08.020 --> 00:03:11.680 of that, literally. So, we'll see. I like having 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:13.639 this non -partial judge, because if Alex was 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.039 the judge, of course he'd... Oh, I would win 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.300 100%. That's why I had to find us a non -partial 00:03:19.300 --> 00:03:25.240 judge. I found a weird one, so... yeah i mean 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:28.240 most unique is one of the ways to get points 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:35.659 um so i'll kind of how do we how do we want to 00:03:35.659 --> 00:03:38.539 do this i'll read a rule gavin reads a rule is 00:03:38.539 --> 00:03:41.699 that what we want to do it oh yeah You could 00:03:41.699 --> 00:03:44.060 do like 10 rules. I was going to say, you made 00:03:44.060 --> 00:03:47.699 up them. I was going to say, do like 10 rules 00:03:47.699 --> 00:03:49.580 at a time or something because that will take 00:03:49.580 --> 00:03:51.439 forever for us to all play hopscotch through 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:57.219 it. We do have rules written up, and we'll go 00:03:57.219 --> 00:03:59.500 through those now, I guess. So rule number one, 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:03.780 they have to have 34 -inch tires or larger. I'm 00:04:03.780 --> 00:04:06.340 not going to say 35s because if you find a 34 00:04:06.340 --> 00:04:10.169 .6. It's a lot less money than a 35, but gives 00:04:10.169 --> 00:04:13.449 you about the same benefit. You have to have 00:04:13.449 --> 00:04:17.089 a way to cook, obviously. You have to have a 00:04:17.089 --> 00:04:20.589 way to hunt. Now, remember, it's 1885, so you 00:04:20.589 --> 00:04:22.709 got to have a way to shoot something to eat it. 00:04:23.310 --> 00:04:26.810 Wait, are we pretending it's 1885 technology, 00:04:27.170 --> 00:04:29.649 too? No. Like, we're just trapped into this world 00:04:29.649 --> 00:04:34.470 with a 2000s truck or something. Yeah. We time 00:04:34.470 --> 00:04:37.269 traveled. It was fun trying to talk to him about 00:04:37.269 --> 00:04:39.550 this one. I was going to say, because there's 00:04:39.550 --> 00:04:42.230 not, if you're an 1885, you're pretty limited 00:04:42.230 --> 00:04:45.470 on what you're going to use. So we are doing 00:04:45.470 --> 00:04:48.430 an expedition into an area that has absolutely 00:04:48.430 --> 00:04:53.149 no support whatsoever anywhere. Okay. That's 00:04:53.149 --> 00:04:56.250 a little better. Whatever money you, yeah. So 00:04:56.250 --> 00:05:01.009 you could bring it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.060 So when I say 1885, that's just, there's no support 00:05:04.060 --> 00:05:06.879 whatsoever for what we've got. I'm thinking, 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.100 I'm like, yeah, so I could do like a musket or 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:16.500 bow. Ironically, that might be my weapon. A muzzleloader. 00:05:18.420 --> 00:05:21.019 The tires have to realistically clear the body 00:05:21.019 --> 00:05:22.680 on the vehicle. You know, you're not going to 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:26.959 get a all -wheel drive Subaru and throw 37s on 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:32.920 it, realistically. Four under five grand. Four 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.500 under five grand, Gavin. It's not going to happen. 00:05:36.100 --> 00:05:38.399 This is why I was upset we couldn't do all -wheel 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.360 drive, because I was going to go fucking crazy. 00:05:42.420 --> 00:05:44.980 You have to have a bathroom setup that allows 00:05:44.980 --> 00:05:47.519 you to pack in, pack out. Obviously, whatever 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.120 environment we're going to be in for this challenge, 00:05:50.379 --> 00:05:52.839 it's not going to have a lot of human interaction, 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:57.680 so we don't want to disturb the biome. You have 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.000 to have a way to pack out your trash, even if 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.279 you're just throwing it in the bed of your truck, 00:06:01.379 --> 00:06:05.259 just a way to pack it out. A way to carry water, 00:06:05.500 --> 00:06:08.000 obviously that's important. You know, we need 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.959 water. You have to have a way to store food that 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:13.740 is bear -ish proof. I mean, I'm not saying you 00:06:13.740 --> 00:06:15.439 got to spend the money on a bear -proof box, 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.800 but if you got like a Yeti cooler or a packout 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.920 cooler or something, or even a cooler and threw 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.399 a ratchet strap over it, we'll call that good 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:28.000 enough. Yeah, question. What's the question? 00:06:29.259 --> 00:06:31.879 If it's inside a vehicle, does that count? Because 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.079 that's bearish proof. Yes. Okay. Yes, inside 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.439 the vehicle counts. Five gallons of gas reserve, 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.040 as in you have to be able to carry a five -gallon 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:51.259 jug of gas somehow. A GMRS radio. Some type of 00:06:51.259 --> 00:06:54.069 nav that you actually know how to use. If you 00:06:54.069 --> 00:06:58.949 know how to use a map and a... I can't even think 00:06:58.949 --> 00:07:03.509 of the word of it right now. Compass? I do, though. 00:07:03.649 --> 00:07:06.110 It comes in the army. I don't have to name them. 00:07:06.430 --> 00:07:08.470 If you know how to use a map and a compass, then 00:07:08.470 --> 00:07:10.730 use a map and compass. You can buy a map and 00:07:10.730 --> 00:07:13.689 compass. It's fine. Otherwise... If we use a 00:07:13.689 --> 00:07:17.009 program, do we have to include subscription price? 00:07:17.470 --> 00:07:20.709 I was just getting there. The cost of Onyx does 00:07:20.709 --> 00:07:24.550 count. That's Porsche. Okay. I'm going to have 00:07:24.550 --> 00:07:27.829 to watch some videos with those 50 % off links. 00:07:29.009 --> 00:07:32.170 Hey, that works. As long as you can prove it. 00:07:34.350 --> 00:07:38.850 Basic set of tools. So, you know, sockets, wrenches, 00:07:38.910 --> 00:07:42.810 the basic stuff. I'm not looking for all of us 00:07:42.810 --> 00:07:45.250 to have, like, ball joint presses and shit in 00:07:45.250 --> 00:07:48.410 our trucks. But as long as you have a decent 00:07:48.410 --> 00:07:51.980 amount of sockets and stuff. And these are the 00:07:51.980 --> 00:07:54.980 rules, not the, this is the bare minimum of what 00:07:54.980 --> 00:07:59.519 you need. Spares for common issues with the vehicle 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.600 you choose. So, you know, if you get a third 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:07.040 gen 4Runner, ball joints, CV axes, that stuff. 00:08:07.899 --> 00:08:10.180 Spare third gen 4Runner. Yeah, I was going to 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:13.420 say. If it's a Subie, like head gaskets, a new 00:08:13.420 --> 00:08:16.639 engine. You have to have a way to start a fire. 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.060 Obviously a lighter from the gas station works 00:08:20.060 --> 00:08:26.920 really. There is an option for most unique. You 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.519 have to have somewhere to sleep and your bedding. 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:36.899 A tent, a truck cap, your back seat, some way 00:08:36.899 --> 00:08:39.200 for you to lay down and be comfortable -ish. 00:08:49.210 --> 00:08:51.450 Vehicle has to be able to travel at least 45 00:08:51.450 --> 00:08:55.169 miles per hour. That's not that hard. I think 00:08:55.169 --> 00:08:57.889 all vehicles really can, but that was the way 00:08:57.889 --> 00:09:00.190 that I could keep us from getting, like, lawnmowers 00:09:00.190 --> 00:09:06.509 or go -karts. Boo. Can't use any parts, tools, 00:09:06.610 --> 00:09:10.710 or gear that you already own. So I can't say 00:09:10.710 --> 00:09:14.950 I have a swag, so I'm taking the swag. If I want 00:09:14.950 --> 00:09:19.379 a swag, I have to buy a swag. Yeah. Oh, okay. 00:09:19.460 --> 00:09:22.419 I thought you meant, like, you can't use packouts 00:09:22.419 --> 00:09:24.259 because you have packouts already. It has to 00:09:24.259 --> 00:09:27.039 be all new, like, gear. It does, yeah. If I want 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:29.659 packouts, I got to buy packouts. Yeah, but I 00:09:29.659 --> 00:09:31.500 thought you meant, like, if you wanted packouts 00:09:31.500 --> 00:09:34.220 but you already own them, you have to try to 00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:36.360 pick a different kind of storage solution. No, 00:09:36.379 --> 00:09:39.860 not that. Just you have to include the price 00:09:39.860 --> 00:09:42.139 of whatever you choose. You can't just say, I 00:09:42.139 --> 00:09:44.960 own it so it works. Yeah, you're buying it all 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:48.480 fresh. Yep. The items have to realistically fit 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.019 in your vehicle. So you can't go get, like, a 00:09:52.019 --> 00:09:58.240 Suzuki X90, add no storage space to it, and expect 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.340 to have all your gear in there. It just isn't 00:10:00.340 --> 00:10:04.980 going to happen. Yep. And the vehicle has to 00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:10.360 be within 250 miles of your house, give or take 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:16.610 a mile. Okay. Here, we'll do it this way. minus 00:10:16.610 --> 00:10:23.289 one point per 10 miles over. Okay, there you 00:10:23.289 --> 00:10:27.190 go. Mine just so happened to be like 251 miles 00:10:27.190 --> 00:10:30.549 away, so I was really hoping that we could be 00:10:30.549 --> 00:10:33.529 a little fluid. I think I'd let you squeak by 00:10:33.529 --> 00:10:36.840 with that. I mean, I could walk the truck. before 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.460 i start it like just move house just move closer 00:10:39.460 --> 00:10:42.059 yeah just say your address is mine maybe that'll 00:10:42.059 --> 00:10:44.799 be all right i guess i can't use my workspace 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.679 actually is yeah okay never mind it's already 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:52.559 cedar springs all right so if someone else wants 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.720 to read the point structure i'll just read it 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:59.399 because i know how it works yeah so the point 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:03.289 structure um Whoever has the most points wins 00:11:03.289 --> 00:11:06.029 obviously you get one point for having the heaviest 00:11:06.029 --> 00:11:09.610 vehicle You get one point for having the lightest 00:11:09.610 --> 00:11:12.950 vehicle you get minus one point for the least 00:11:12.950 --> 00:11:17.049 amount of storage Plus two for the most amount 00:11:17.049 --> 00:11:20.909 of storage plus two for the biggest tires plus 00:11:20.909 --> 00:11:24.149 two for the most horsepower minus two for the 00:11:24.149 --> 00:11:28.690 vehicle with the most rust now This is one we 00:11:28.690 --> 00:11:30.330 got to talk about, right? Because the vehicle 00:11:30.330 --> 00:11:32.330 I'm buying is kind of rusty, but I'm cutting 00:11:32.330 --> 00:11:35.490 most of the rust off to be able to put the tires 00:11:35.490 --> 00:11:37.649 on. So does the rust still count against me? 00:11:38.789 --> 00:11:41.549 Yeah, I think it's at purchase. I mean, we could 00:11:41.549 --> 00:11:45.809 all do rust removal type. But I'm specifically 00:11:45.809 --> 00:11:49.129 cutting it off to clear tires. Okay, how about 00:11:49.129 --> 00:11:51.490 this? You have to include everything that you 00:11:51.490 --> 00:11:55.070 would need to do that, like grinder, disc. Okay, 00:11:55.070 --> 00:12:00.059 I like that. Shop labor. Shop labor. So, $100 00:12:00.059 --> 00:12:03.980 an hour. Ouch. All right. Because that would 00:12:03.980 --> 00:12:07.240 make sense, right? Yeah, no, it's good. Anything 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.179 to, like, modify. Quick question for the... What's 00:12:11.179 --> 00:12:17.899 up? Do we need a title? We're going to need... 00:12:17.899 --> 00:12:25.389 Number one. Must be able to be registered. Yeah, 00:12:25.409 --> 00:12:27.309 I was going to say, if it has to drive 45 miles 00:12:27.309 --> 00:12:29.309 on the road, it's probably going to have to have 00:12:29.309 --> 00:12:33.169 a title of some sort. That was a good one. Yeah, 00:12:33.470 --> 00:12:35.250 I was going to say, I don't think we're going 00:12:35.250 --> 00:12:38.809 to include the title fees onto it because it 00:12:38.809 --> 00:12:41.809 would just be robbery. It would be impossible 00:12:41.809 --> 00:12:46.029 to even figure out. I'm calling State Farm tomorrow 00:12:46.029 --> 00:12:48.129 to see how much it's going to cost to get my 00:12:48.129 --> 00:12:50.929 car insured. The sad part is I just shot myself 00:12:50.929 --> 00:12:53.429 in the foot with that one, but I thought I might 00:12:53.429 --> 00:12:56.049 as well ring it up. you could have got away with 00:12:56.049 --> 00:12:59.789 it too if we had to put it in um and then i did 00:12:59.789 --> 00:13:02.549 forget to say this if you break a rule or miss 00:13:02.549 --> 00:13:06.490 a requirement it's minus three points so if you 00:13:06.490 --> 00:13:08.830 don't have a way to cook you lose three points 00:13:08.830 --> 00:13:15.470 um if yeah so that's important to put out there 00:13:15.470 --> 00:13:20.529 uh and then the most capable cooking setup and 00:13:20.529 --> 00:13:23.899 by most capable cooking setup i mean The person 00:13:23.899 --> 00:13:26.460 with the ability to cook the most different types 00:13:26.460 --> 00:13:33.519 of food. So a pan, a grill, a pot, you know, 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.860 the most different types of food capability is 00:13:36.860 --> 00:13:39.179 how we'll figure that one out. That's plus three 00:13:39.179 --> 00:13:43.840 points. The fastest theoretical camping setup 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.700 time. So from parking your truck to setup, the 00:13:47.700 --> 00:13:50.740 fastest theoretical time is plus five points. 00:13:51.529 --> 00:13:56.590 um the most unique setup is plus five the cheapest 00:13:56.590 --> 00:14:01.830 overall price is also plus five the most prepared 00:14:01.830 --> 00:14:05.129 in a mechanical failure situation so this is 00:14:05.129 --> 00:14:07.610 going to be the guy with the most spares for 00:14:07.610 --> 00:14:10.690 his vehicle the most tools to fix said spares 00:14:10.690 --> 00:14:14.889 you know that guy he's going to get plus 10 and 00:14:14.889 --> 00:14:17.850 the most prepared in general so the guy who you 00:14:17.850 --> 00:14:19.909 know has the most comfortable sounding setup 00:14:20.509 --> 00:14:25.269 has the best cooking setup. Maybe he's got the 00:14:25.269 --> 00:14:28.669 best hunting setup. That guy is going to get 00:14:28.669 --> 00:14:33.970 a plus 10. Are we including points for rules 00:14:33.970 --> 00:14:38.129 1 through 21, like one point for each rule that 00:14:38.129 --> 00:14:42.970 you do? They do not count. Right. So if you have 00:14:42.970 --> 00:14:45.750 less than a 35 -inch tire, you lose one point 00:14:45.750 --> 00:14:51.690 per inch under 34. I think I've got another one 00:14:51.690 --> 00:14:55.129 like that. If your vehicle is 250 miles away 00:14:55.129 --> 00:14:57.730 from the house, you lose one point per 10 miles 00:14:57.730 --> 00:15:01.990 over. Yeah, I was just curious if the rules were 00:15:01.990 --> 00:15:05.409 one point each. So, like, if you did all one 00:15:05.409 --> 00:15:08.389 through 21, you'd have 21 points to start. We 00:15:08.389 --> 00:15:12.210 could do that. Yeah. Because there's not a lot 00:15:12.210 --> 00:15:15.049 for the point structure. There's not a lot. Well, 00:15:15.250 --> 00:15:19.210 you lose three points for every rule you miss. 00:15:20.710 --> 00:15:23.929 Right, so it's kind of a gamble. Like if you 00:15:23.929 --> 00:15:26.710 do purposely want to miss one of them for one 00:15:26.710 --> 00:15:28.950 reason or another. Then you're losing three points. 00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:32.990 Right, but you could gain it somewhere else. 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:37.049 You know, like that kind of thing. Yeah, we can 00:15:37.049 --> 00:15:40.009 do that. You start out automatically with 21 00:15:40.009 --> 00:15:42.289 points, and then for every one you miss, you 00:15:42.289 --> 00:15:47.110 lose three. Yeah. And then, yeah, we could do 00:15:47.110 --> 00:15:51.139 that. I like that. Yeah, because if you start 00:15:51.139 --> 00:15:54.399 out at the heaviest vehicle and stuff like that, 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.559 you could be put into the negatives pretty quick 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.419 if you don't get chosen for any of these for 00:16:02.419 --> 00:16:04.500 the point structure, because there's not a lot 00:16:04.500 --> 00:16:08.740 of them. Yeah, no. I like that. Well, that was 00:16:08.740 --> 00:16:10.519 my next thing. Is there anything we want to add 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:20.769 to the point structure? Hmm. heaviest, lightest, 00:16:20.870 --> 00:16:26.029 least most, smallest tires. Do we want to do 00:16:26.029 --> 00:16:33.730 minus points for that one? Yeah. Oh, shoot. Can 00:16:33.730 --> 00:16:38.049 I not add to this? Hold up. Technical difficulties. 00:16:38.049 --> 00:16:41.269 One second. I think if you right -click, you 00:16:41.269 --> 00:16:43.009 should be able to add it. And so that's sail 00:16:43.009 --> 00:16:45.750 blow. And so that's row blow. Oh, there it is. 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.039 So what, minus two for smallest seller? Yeah. 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:06.559 All right. Anything else we want to add? Cleanest 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:09.980 vehicle. Yeah, maybe cleanest. Yeah, that's a 00:17:09.980 --> 00:17:16.140 good one. Or I'll just put least rust. Just say, 00:17:16.180 --> 00:17:19.299 do we want to add one that's like... amount of 00:17:19.299 --> 00:17:22.019 overall work needed to be put into it. You know 00:17:22.019 --> 00:17:26.119 what I mean? Like turnkey. You could do least 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:30.400 rust slash most turnkey, essentially. I think 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.339 turnkey would have to be its own. Because I could 00:17:33.339 --> 00:17:36.440 get a rust -free vehicle, but it could have a 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:39.539 lot of work. But I like that. Yeah, you know, 00:17:39.619 --> 00:17:43.180 turnkey already has a lift. You know, already 00:17:43.180 --> 00:17:49.569 has the tires. Something like that. Okay, I like 00:17:49.569 --> 00:17:59.250 that. Hmm. Do we want to minus points for how 00:17:59.250 --> 00:18:01.809 much work you have to put into it as far as, 00:18:01.829 --> 00:18:08.529 like, labor or... I don't think so. He's trying 00:18:08.529 --> 00:18:12.509 to count out his labor, the cost of labor, and 00:18:12.509 --> 00:18:14.230 then the negative points. He's like, I don't 00:18:14.230 --> 00:18:18.079 know. The labor on my rig is very minimal, so 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:21.339 I'll just say that. It is very, very minimal. 00:18:21.660 --> 00:18:23.920 Oh, look, guys, you can see a Mercy in the background. 00:18:26.779 --> 00:18:32.440 Yeah, I see a black shadow, but yeah. I mean, 00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:34.660 that's a good start if we think of anything while 00:18:34.660 --> 00:18:39.619 we're looking. Yeah, I think that's a good starting 00:18:39.619 --> 00:18:45.079 point. I'm going to... We can lowball, correct, 00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:47.099 as long as we have the screenshot of him accepting 00:18:47.099 --> 00:18:52.099 the price? Oh, gosh. God. No. Right? Yeah. Oh, 00:18:52.339 --> 00:18:57.019 no. If we lowball the guy and he says yes, that's 00:18:57.019 --> 00:18:59.500 accepted price. We don't want to annoy someone 00:18:59.500 --> 00:19:01.900 because of a challenge and we're not actually 00:19:01.900 --> 00:19:06.640 looking at the vehicle. I mean, if he goes low 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.539 enough, I might - Rule 22, must go off asking 00:19:09.539 --> 00:19:13.650 price. Damn it. There, I shot myself in the foot. 00:19:15.769 --> 00:19:19.509 Would you take 500, sure? When I was setting 00:19:19.509 --> 00:19:21.670 mine up, I thought about messaging someone and 00:19:21.670 --> 00:19:23.710 lowballing them, and I was like, man, I don't 00:19:23.710 --> 00:19:25.529 want to waste someone's time for something I'm 00:19:25.529 --> 00:19:28.190 not going to buy. I get it. I just think it's 00:19:28.190 --> 00:19:30.390 kind of like the necessary evil of Marketplace. 00:19:30.490 --> 00:19:33.509 You don't have to pay for it, and instead you 00:19:33.509 --> 00:19:38.509 get all these shitty messages. Nah. Nah, I think 00:19:38.509 --> 00:19:44.170 that's fair. that's fair that's fair yeah i don't 00:19:44.170 --> 00:19:47.509 think we got any other rules that are really 00:19:47.509 --> 00:19:49.630 necessary i think we covered most of the basics 00:19:49.630 --> 00:19:54.230 oh most most and least fuel efficient we didn't 00:19:54.230 --> 00:19:57.410 do recovery gear well i figured that would be 00:19:57.410 --> 00:20:01.109 part of it as part of like must include recovery 00:20:01.109 --> 00:20:05.730 gear even if it's just a strap we have to include 00:20:05.730 --> 00:20:09.230 it Yeah. So would we want to say, like, potentially 00:20:09.230 --> 00:20:11.869 put in the most prepared if they get stuck or 00:20:11.869 --> 00:20:14.990 something like that? Yeah, most prepared in what? 00:20:15.089 --> 00:20:18.670 In general or most prepared in recovery situations? 00:20:19.069 --> 00:20:25.950 I think do one for each. Yeah, because, I mean, 00:20:25.970 --> 00:20:29.789 if we got someone who's got the best food, the 00:20:29.789 --> 00:20:34.180 best camping setup, the... Best recovery situation. 00:20:34.579 --> 00:20:36.640 I mean, that's the guy who's most prepared in 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:39.460 general. That's just a free 10 points. Yeah. 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:43.180 Well, most prepared in general and recovery situation, 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:45.359 you're most likely going to have most prepared 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.259 in mechanical failure situation, too. So that's 00:20:48.259 --> 00:20:51.559 kind of like a automatic loss for everybody else. 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.140 Let's do plus two points for that one, then. 00:20:55.460 --> 00:20:59.200 Or plus one. Because, yeah, you're right. You're 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.140 right. Because that's just an easy way to like 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:05.079 30 points. There's no way anybody's going to 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:07.539 be able to top that on top of the 23. I don't 00:21:07.539 --> 00:21:09.440 think I would double them up. I think you'd be 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:11.619 way over budget if you were most prepared in 00:21:11.619 --> 00:21:13.740 all three of those. I think most prepared in 00:21:13.740 --> 00:21:15.519 general would be like a nice well -rounded one. 00:21:16.180 --> 00:21:18.259 Mechanical failure situation, I would definitely 00:21:18.259 --> 00:21:19.819 look at the person who definitely had the most 00:21:19.819 --> 00:21:22.460 parts and the most tools. And then most prepared 00:21:22.460 --> 00:21:24.059 for recovery, I would look at the person with 00:21:24.059 --> 00:21:26.900 the best gear and stuff like that. Right. So 00:21:26.900 --> 00:21:28.960 you think take most prepared and mechanical failure 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:33.140 out of there? I say leave it in. Okay. Yeah. 00:21:37.539 --> 00:21:40.259 And then most prayer in recovery, put that in 00:21:40.259 --> 00:21:44.720 as well. Yeah. I mean, I'd be okay with that 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:48.440 being like plus five. Yeah. Plus three, because 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:51.339 that is important. I just don't know if. Well, 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:53.539 do we want to change the two plus tens to plus 00:21:53.539 --> 00:21:56.140 threes then make them all plus threes? Yeah. 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:58.619 Make them. Yeah. That are plus fives for them. 00:21:58.970 --> 00:22:02.910 Make them a little less crazy. A little less 00:22:02.910 --> 00:22:05.369 overpowered. And then do we want to do, like, 00:22:05.369 --> 00:22:06.890 most off -road capable in there or something? 00:22:08.289 --> 00:22:11.450 Yeah. I mean, that would be the most off -road 00:22:11.450 --> 00:22:14.349 capable after all is said and done. What would 00:22:14.349 --> 00:22:20.210 we make that one? Wait, in that situation, what's 00:22:20.210 --> 00:22:23.710 the off -road terrain? Well, you said it's, like, 00:22:23.710 --> 00:22:27.450 traveling in remote wilderness, so. Yeah, but 00:22:27.450 --> 00:22:31.990 is it a desert? Is it a swamp? It would be all 00:22:31.990 --> 00:22:34.349 of them. I think all of them, yeah. Yeah, I'd 00:22:34.349 --> 00:22:35.990 be looking for the vehicle that seems like it 00:22:35.990 --> 00:22:39.869 took out just about a five -day trip. We just 00:22:39.869 --> 00:22:46.210 came across the gauntlet biome. Yeah. Northern 00:22:46.210 --> 00:22:51.569 Michigan in spring. Well, in that case, as long 00:22:51.569 --> 00:22:53.269 as you can winch yourself out, you don't got 00:22:53.269 --> 00:22:56.009 to worry about the getting stuck part. So, yeah, 00:22:56.109 --> 00:22:59.880 I'm good with this. I think this is a good list, 00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:01.779 and I think it's a relevant conversation because 00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:04.299 there have definitely been buddies of mine I'm 00:23:04.299 --> 00:23:07.579 friends with who we go camping with, and they 00:23:07.579 --> 00:23:09.160 want to get into doing this kind of stuff, and 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.559 I think everyone's worried about breaking the 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:12.039 bank, and I think this is going to prove that 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:13.960 you can go out and have fun at camp and do stuff 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.059 without a whole bunch of money. Which reminds 00:23:17.059 --> 00:23:20.779 me, that does remind me, we have to do our $100 00:23:20.779 --> 00:23:26.059 camp challenge too this year. We do. My June... 00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:30.460 Are my July and August are swapped? Yes. Yeah. 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.119 Thank you. I don't think I could afford that. 00:23:37.299 --> 00:23:41.200 I know we were talking about doing botches yearly 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.359 in September. Let's push that back to October. 00:23:44.299 --> 00:23:46.559 Yeah, I think that'll be great. Changing of the 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:50.160 leaves, too. And then we'll do the $100 camp 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:54.839 challenge one weekend in September. Yeah. Okey 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:59.480 -doke. My, I have one boss that told me I'm not 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:01.819 good. Okay. I won't say names in case one of 00:24:01.819 --> 00:24:04.079 them listened to this, but I had a boss tell 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.420 me, fuck them guys. Take a weekend off every 00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:13.880 month. So I definitely woke up people to do like 00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:16.859 summer hours. They'll take Fridays off and just 00:24:16.859 --> 00:24:18.799 try and do like 10 hour days. Monday through 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:21.099 Thursday. I got, if I could do that, I would. 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:26.660 I know. Yeah. So I, With that, I'm going to take 00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:29.319 it and run with it. I already asked for a weekend 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:34.779 off in July. I've got vacation in August. Both 00:24:34.779 --> 00:24:39.500 of the ones for a buddy's bachelor party, which 00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:41.799 is Drummond Island. So you'll get some of that 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.839 coming up. And then the other is for that same 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:52.829 buddy's wedding. So, yeah. They weren't not going 00:24:52.829 --> 00:24:54.529 to let me take that off because I was taking 00:24:54.529 --> 00:24:58.750 it either way. Yeah, that's like with my previous 00:24:58.750 --> 00:25:02.569 job. They're like, yeah, sorry, we can't approve 00:25:02.569 --> 00:25:05.529 your sister -in -law's wedding. I'm like, oh, 00:25:05.630 --> 00:25:09.190 I wasn't asking. I'm sorry. This was my sister 00:25:09.190 --> 00:25:11.269 -in -law's wedding. They typically only have 00:25:11.269 --> 00:25:15.490 one. Yeah, exactly. I'm not asking. I'm telling 00:25:15.490 --> 00:25:20.049 you I'm taking that day off. Actually, is it 00:25:20.049 --> 00:25:22.589 typically only have one? We hope they only have 00:25:22.589 --> 00:25:27.130 one. Knock on wood. Yeah. Well, this would be 00:25:27.130 --> 00:25:31.690 actually number two, but who's counting? Only 00:25:31.690 --> 00:25:34.589 the first one with this guy, right? Yeah, yeah, 00:25:34.609 --> 00:25:38.490 yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, this one's probably going 00:25:38.490 --> 00:25:43.130 to stick. I hope so. For her sake. For everyone's. 00:25:43.529 --> 00:25:46.809 Yeah, they do. But, yeah, I think this is a good 00:25:46.809 --> 00:25:50.680 list. I think... Like I said, obviously this 00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:55.119 is kind of like a fantasy scenario, so you could 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.000 honestly do the camping thing for way less than 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:00.980 $5 ,000, especially in Michigan. I could build 00:26:00.980 --> 00:26:05.119 out a decently capable Michigan rig for $2 ,800 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:10.299 if I didn't care about it. Yeah. And basically 00:26:10.299 --> 00:26:14.079 all you're going to do is buy a pre -built XJ 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.089 and then just spend the rest of the money. on 00:26:17.089 --> 00:26:20.829 doing the repairs needed for it. Even so, for 00:26:20.829 --> 00:26:25.690 $2 ,800, I can go get a single -cab longbed F 00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:29.130 -350 and wheel a full -size in Michigan because, 00:26:29.190 --> 00:26:31.910 honestly, 90 % of Michigan you can do in a four 00:26:31.910 --> 00:26:34.710 -wheel drive full -size pickup. Definitely. Yeah. 00:26:35.029 --> 00:26:37.609 And now Drummond Island, too. Thank you, Daniel. 00:26:38.069 --> 00:26:42.799 Now Drummond Island as well, yep. I had to say 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.400 it. I had to say it. I had to say it. Speaking 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:49.839 of DNR and story time, we went up to, what was 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.400 it? Of course, I can't remember the state park, 00:26:52.460 --> 00:26:54.720 but state park up there by Graylings. It was 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.799 Hartwick Pines. And we were talking to the lady, 00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.940 and she was complimenting us on her truck. And, 00:26:59.980 --> 00:27:01.880 oh, my gosh, you guys look like you're ready 00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:03.359 for anything, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, 00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:05.619 yeah, yeah, yeah, we're camping in Dispersed. 00:27:05.619 --> 00:27:07.640 And we just kind of want to check this out. And 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.180 she goes. Yeah, she's like, I love your stickers. 00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:13.420 She goes, oh, you even have a DNR sticker. She's 00:27:13.420 --> 00:27:15.380 like, that's so sweet. You guys support the DNR. 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.000 And I'm like, oh, yeah. I was like, of course. 00:27:18.460 --> 00:27:21.579 But we're going to get going. It was nice talking 00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:24.440 to you. Yeah, and I drove by before she could 00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:28.079 read it. And I looked at Sienna and I go, oh, 00:27:28.380 --> 00:27:32.119 maybe. Maybe those stickers weren't the best 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.980 idea. It's just a conversation. I support the 00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:38.119 idea. It's just a conversation I don't want to 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.160 have with a worker or a DNR officer. Every time 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.579 I wear that shirt, someone asks me, oh, so you're 00:27:44.579 --> 00:27:48.099 a big fan of the DNR? And I'm like, read it again. 00:27:49.779 --> 00:27:52.660 Yeah, I only wear that sweatshirt when I'm camping 00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:55.400 and with other people that understand it because 00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:59.680 I've worn the mire once. and was getting eyeballed 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:01.519 and i'm like you can obviously tell i don't work 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.019 at the dnr so what am i doing so i'm like yeah 00:28:05.019 --> 00:28:07.519 we're not gonna i don't want to attract that 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.099 attention to me it's like our botches uh hawaiian 00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:13.880 shirts i don't wear that normally that is a solely 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:19.970 botches event type shirt Yeah, that's an attracted, 00:28:20.289 --> 00:28:24.029 unwanted attention shirt. It was really cool 00:28:24.029 --> 00:28:26.470 watching Busted DeBilt's video and seeing all 00:28:26.470 --> 00:28:28.650 our Hawaiian shirts in it. It was pretty fun. 00:28:29.009 --> 00:28:31.289 Yeah, Busted DeBilt's videos were actually pretty 00:28:31.289 --> 00:28:36.849 cool watching those. Those really let some inside 00:28:36.849 --> 00:28:40.250 views on the whole Leatherwood trails. Yeah, 00:28:40.250 --> 00:28:46.109 I'm excited to see what Scott from Trail Expeditions 00:28:46.109 --> 00:28:49.400 puts out. Yeah, I've just been binging a bunch 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.259 of his stuff. Not enough that I'm going to pay 00:28:52.259 --> 00:28:54.359 for a membership. Not that I don't want to support 00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.940 Scott. I love Scott, but I'm very broke. Yeah, 00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:00.519 no, same. I did the same thing. I kept clicking 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.180 on it. I'm like, what did I do? Why isn't this 00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:04.539 playing? And then I actually read it, and I'm 00:29:04.539 --> 00:29:10.660 like, ah. Oh. I don't love that Ronald. Like, 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.480 it'd be cool if he could do value for value somehow, 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:15.420 where you just send him money when you think 00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:18.769 he's doing great. You know, like us, listeners, 00:29:19.109 --> 00:29:25.509 please send us money. But, you know, it is what 00:29:25.509 --> 00:29:29.950 it is. It's a beggar on the street. He's that 00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:31.990 guy with the cardboard cutout on the on -ramp. 00:29:32.809 --> 00:29:38.829 Hey, man, this shit costs money. Oh, very true. 00:29:39.529 --> 00:29:42.450 I don't expect anyone to send us money, but the 00:29:42.450 --> 00:29:45.190 option's there. You can send us money. Please. 00:29:46.509 --> 00:29:49.549 I was really hoping to find like $100 ,000 in 00:29:49.549 --> 00:29:53.069 drug money in that Yeti I found, but lo and behold, 00:29:53.269 --> 00:29:56.329 it was just Sharkucci throwaways. Oh, shit. Actually, 00:29:56.349 --> 00:29:58.130 you know what? I'm totally going to pay for his 00:29:58.130 --> 00:30:04.650 thing. It's only $2 .99 a month. Oh. How the 00:30:04.650 --> 00:30:08.690 turns have tabled. For $24 .99, you can have 00:30:08.690 --> 00:30:16.809 a monthly group call with him. For $49 .99, you'll 00:30:16.809 --> 00:30:25.630 get special shout -outs. For $99 .99... Andy? 00:30:26.869 --> 00:30:31.990 You get your company logo placed at the beginning 00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:38.630 of every trip video. Oh, it's sponsored? Yeah. 00:30:40.379 --> 00:30:43.799 Sponsored by Botches Off -Road. That'd be kind 00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:49.420 of cool. We should do it like one time. And then 00:30:49.420 --> 00:30:51.619 he reads out the one episode where you fucked 00:30:51.619 --> 00:30:55.400 up the intro. Yeah. Welcome to Botches Off -Road. 00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:58.240 Join us as we take trips. Fuck, we're just going 00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:02.799 to do it like this. There we go. I paid for it, 00:31:02.819 --> 00:31:06.980 so now I can binge the three episodes that are 00:31:06.980 --> 00:31:14.700 from Leatherwood. torrented i mean i do i do 00:31:14.700 --> 00:31:18.000 have a thing that auto put it on jellyfin it 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.319 actually that's what i'm working on right now 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:24.220 is making sure it can go on jellyfin chris will 00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:28.039 never talk to you again scott for 2 .99 you assholes 00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:31.359 scott yes sorry thinking of chris hall because 00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:35.500 i do have a way to download uh stuff as soon 00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:41.679 as they air so yeah that's happening now Oh, 00:31:41.679 --> 00:31:45.680 shoot. It doesn't look like I can make it. Never 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.519 mind. I lied, guys. I can't make it auto -download 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.380 it, so I can't steal it for you guys. Sorry. 00:31:51.859 --> 00:31:56.819 It's okay. I'm not too upset about it. Yeah, 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:06.299 no. We definitely have a secret group media server 00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:08.660 that has lots and lots and lots of stuff on it. 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.799 Hopefully a new movie soon. Oh, hey, yeah. Remind 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.779 me to do that as soon as we're done with this, 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.299 because I need to download that. Yeah. It's super 00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:21.500 good, and I will watch it tonight if it gets 00:32:21.500 --> 00:32:24.960 downloaded, from what I've seen. I don't know. 00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:28.460 I saw a Raptor, what is it, an F -35? I don't 00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:32.220 know what the newest ones are. I saw it go really 00:32:32.220 --> 00:32:36.220 low through a street, and it kicked up dust clouds 00:32:36.220 --> 00:32:38.720 on the side, and I was like, that's sick. Yeah. 00:32:39.789 --> 00:32:42.390 I don't know. It's like one of those things like 00:32:42.390 --> 00:32:44.849 Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick. I just love the 00:32:44.849 --> 00:32:49.809 Jets, man. Speaking of Top Gun, who thought it 00:32:49.809 --> 00:32:52.970 was cool that the entire plot of Top Gun was 00:32:52.970 --> 00:32:57.670 acted out in real life? That is badass. Right? 00:33:00.490 --> 00:33:05.430 It is so cool. I liked the Top Gun. Say what 00:33:05.430 --> 00:33:08.250 you want about... The whole political sphere 00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:11.049 right now, I don't care. The mission that those 00:33:11.049 --> 00:33:14.809 pilots did, that was fucking incredible. Yeah. 00:33:16.029 --> 00:33:18.289 They have 40 hours. They're a buster, man. They 00:33:18.289 --> 00:33:22.450 said 40 hours flight time. Yeah. Yeah, and multiple 00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:25.730 refuels on the way too, man. Air refuels. Air 00:33:25.730 --> 00:33:29.829 refuels are hard. Yeah, exactly. How many B -2s 00:33:29.829 --> 00:33:32.690 did they have? It was like two? No, way more 00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:36.819 than two. I think it was four. I want to say 00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:40.700 it was, like, almost six. Oh, it might have been. 00:33:40.779 --> 00:33:42.259 It might have been six, and then it had a bunch 00:33:42.259 --> 00:33:45.519 of support aircraft. It had a bunch of 5th and 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:51.819 4th and 5th. Seven. Seven. Seven. Yeah. $7 billion 00:33:51.819 --> 00:33:57.720 just chilling up there in the sky. Wait, it's 00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.839 a billion each one, right? That's the cost of 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.299 each B -2 is a billion dollars? Roughly, yeah. 00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:07.240 So, also. The fact that we almost went to World 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.980 War III and it de -escalated all since our last 00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:18.239 episode, that is cool. I don't know. I've heard 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.579 about that, and then I'm like, well, every president 00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:23.139 has done strikes like that. I mean, maybe not 00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:26.480 to that extent. No, to that extent. But everyone's 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:32.619 done tomahawks, and I think every president's 00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:36.230 done it that had the capability. I mean, most 00:34:36.230 --> 00:34:39.409 presidents, I'm specifically talking Obama here, 00:34:39.489 --> 00:34:42.889 did way worse in his first four years. Way fucking 00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:45.909 worse. Like, Trump barely scratched the surface 00:34:45.909 --> 00:34:49.909 on what Obama did in his first four years. I 00:34:49.909 --> 00:34:53.869 don't know. All I have to say is now, all of 00:34:53.869 --> 00:34:58.750 a sudden, my TikTok feed is flooded with, like, 00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:01.989 B -2 stealth bombers, like, thirst trap videos. 00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.380 You know what I mean? Like, they got the B -2s 00:35:06.380 --> 00:35:09.280 flying, and they got music, like, montages of 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.219 them. And I'm like, dude, this is amazing. Yeah, 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.079 they said... I have to watch Top Gun again. It 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.699 says $2 .1 billion per plane, and in 2010, they 00:35:17.699 --> 00:35:20.519 estimated it was $135 grand per flight hour. 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:26.579 Woo! So... That was, like, 18 hours or so of 00:35:26.579 --> 00:35:30.079 flight. 40. 40? I was trying to remember. Mm 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.809 -hmm. So, yeah, like I said, say what you want 00:35:32.809 --> 00:35:34.809 about the political sphere. I don't care. What 00:35:34.809 --> 00:35:39.090 those guys did, what those guys did was amazing. 00:35:39.929 --> 00:35:45.829 Sick. Makes the parade look cheap, though. Oh, 00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:50.710 maybe. All right, we're getting too political 00:35:50.710 --> 00:35:53.170 here, guys. The parade was sick, too. I watched 00:35:53.170 --> 00:35:55.510 a lot of that. No, I think the parade was sick. 00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.800 I don't see a reason why we shouldn't flaunt 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.360 our military and praise it. I think we should 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.980 have one of these every five years. Well, if 00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:08.780 it makes you feel better, we've got another one 00:36:08.780 --> 00:36:15.500 coming up. Is it the Marines? I don't know if 00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:17.440 it's the Marines or the Navy that comes up first. 00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:22.300 Probably the Navy. The Navy's been around longer, 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.559 hasn't it? The Army, maybe. 250 years. Well, 00:36:25.659 --> 00:36:28.460 I don't know about the Marines. Marines are 252, 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:34.440 right? Or 250 as well? Oh, really? 1775, you 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:39.679 said? I don't know why I thought that they were 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.860 constructed in the 40s. Well, maybe I'm thinking 00:36:43.860 --> 00:36:46.480 of, like, the Special Forces. Or the Air Force? 00:36:47.019 --> 00:36:50.500 No, I'm thinking of, like... They had specific 00:36:50.500 --> 00:36:57.159 units of people that would come in from the water, 00:36:57.219 --> 00:37:01.599 from the beaches. Navy SEALs? Yeah, that's what 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:06.519 I'm thinking of, I think. Well, I know the Navy's 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:12.199 celebration is coming up in October. When is 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:17.469 your guys's? What month? the marines marines 00:37:17.469 --> 00:37:25.170 are november isn't it yep november 10th yep yeah 00:37:25.170 --> 00:37:28.210 my uh speaking of marines and first marriages 00:37:28.210 --> 00:37:32.809 i got a buddy i got a buddy that fell in love 00:37:32.809 --> 00:37:35.250 with this girl and they got married for one week 00:37:35.250 --> 00:37:39.789 and she cheated on him it's so bad guys it's 00:37:39.789 --> 00:37:43.050 so bad but we told him we told him that's too 00:37:43.050 --> 00:37:46.340 quick They got married, and a week later, she 00:37:46.340 --> 00:37:49.079 cheated on him. It was the fastest marriage I've 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.119 ever seen. The fastest I've ever seen was my 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.000 roommate in Fort Huachuca married a girl after 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.980 knowing her for one month for the benefits, and 00:37:57.980 --> 00:38:00.940 he cheated on her within two months, and then 00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:03.960 after that, it was like a year of them just trying 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.500 to figure out how to get divorced. Like, it was 00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:09.840 messy. It was bad. Oh, yeah, he knew this girl 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.269 for three weeks. married her week four jesus 00:38:13.269 --> 00:38:15.989 christ and then it was like week five or week 00:38:15.989 --> 00:38:19.690 six she was like yeah i'm uh i can't leave my 00:38:19.690 --> 00:38:23.650 kid and my ex and uh she went back to them and 00:38:23.650 --> 00:38:27.690 it was like damn now now anytime he tries to 00:38:27.690 --> 00:38:30.590 like roast us we always have that in our pocket 00:38:30.590 --> 00:38:36.190 it's like i uh i should have waited four days 00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:39.340 to join the army Because my Army birthday is 00:38:39.340 --> 00:38:42.599 June 10th, and the Army's birthday is June 14th. 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:47.139 Like, it's right there. Yep. I screwed up. I 00:38:47.139 --> 00:38:49.900 could have had my Army birthday and the Army's 00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:52.500 birthday be the same day. And then when the Army 00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:54.619 has parades for their birthday, I could claim 00:38:54.619 --> 00:39:02.260 they're for me. Yeah. That's totally how that 00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:06.760 works. Back when I used to say GMC was made after 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.300 me. Because my name used to be Gavin Michael 00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:13.340 Cornell. Oh, my God. Can't track me now, though. 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.239 I changed my last name and middle name. On that 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.400 note, guys, we'll call it here. But, yeah, 5K 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.900 Truck Challenge. I'll have the rules listed in 00:39:22.900 --> 00:39:25.739 the description below. I'll post it on the Facebook 00:39:25.739 --> 00:39:32.099 page. Any listener that wants to be looked at 00:39:32.099 --> 00:39:34.900 for the possibility of having a sticker, make 00:39:34.900 --> 00:39:37.809 sure that you have your... I'm making sure I 00:39:37.809 --> 00:39:41.070 have the right dates here. Make sure that you 00:39:41.070 --> 00:39:45.190 have your listing in by July 8th. July 8th is 00:39:45.190 --> 00:39:48.869 the deadline for that. We are going to do our 00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:57.829 end of challenge. We'll end on July 2nd, but 00:39:57.829 --> 00:40:00.949 we record a week in advance, so that's why that's 00:40:00.949 --> 00:40:05.190 like that. Get them in by July 8th, and we will 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:07.750 pick our favorite and send you a sticker of some 00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:11.010 kind. Maybe it'll just be Gavin's rainbow truck. 00:40:11.090 --> 00:40:16.250 Who knows? Yeah. Catch you guys later. Later. 00:40:17.389 --> 00:40:18.630 Yeah, we'll see you later.