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outdoors today? I mean, probably. Sure. It's

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kind of a little weird bonus episode for the

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listeners, so that's cool. Yeah? Well, outdoors.

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Oh, I have some exciting news, and since I haven't

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told you... Otherwise, I could just tell you

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here. Yeah, I went camping this weekend. That

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was cool. Saw an elk. Is that your first time

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seeing an elk? Yeah, ever. Yeah, I was fangirling,

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dude. It was like 11 -something at night. That

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explain why you thought it was a deer? No, no,

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I knew it wasn't. I was just fucking with people.

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I thought it was the funny caption. It was, you

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know, one of those like attention getters. Yeah.

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That's not a deer. But no, I was super, super

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excited this first time I've seen an elk in person

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in the wild. Like I've seen them in like behind

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gates and cages and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But

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that was really cool. Yeah. Did the whole camping

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thing. Let Jasper run around. And one of the

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guys that came by. um apparently his company

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like i i didn't catch a whole lot on it um but

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he offered me two pelican cases because you know

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just wanted to know if i wanted them and i took

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them for freebies nice they're hard case waterproof

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pelican cases and i'll be adding at least one

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of them to the roof so it's cool man They're,

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like, better quality than the Apache cases, but

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I think just got to drill some holes, attach

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them on there, and we're good to go. Pelican

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cases aren't cheap, man. No. Oh, sorry, listeners.

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Yeah, gross. But apparently the company he works

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for uses them for whatever reason, and then they

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get rid of them. Huh. That was cool. I mean,

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got two of those, and then we did some trails,

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and holy shit, Gaylord is bad. I mean, we were

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in Atlanta, but same kind of area. It was like

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every five minutes we were hitting trees, and

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we cleared a good amount, but it was like we

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weren't there to clear trees. We were there to

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do trails, and so we turned around on a lot of

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them. I mean, you'd look down 50 yards of trail,

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and it's just trees the whole way down the trail.

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It's like, no, we're not doing that. We're kind

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of trying to relax. So that was fun. And I got

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home. Nothing broke. So that's plus. I mean,

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you were mostly on dirt roads anyway, right?

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Dirt, yeah. Well, yeah, I would say so. But it's

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not necessarily that. It's just the drive there,

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drive back, nothing broke, and I'm happy. With

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it being a derrick event, that's kind of what

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I expect. It's just like, yeah, dirt roads. Well,

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that one, he didn't even go trail riding. This

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was more kid's camp because he ended up getting

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there later anyway. So I led the trail, and we

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just kind of went on every single trail that

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I could find in the area just to explore. Yeah,

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it just was tons of trees. Of course, the next

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day, Sunday morning, after we left, I was like,

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screw it, let's hit a couple trails before we

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go back. And then I found a good amount of trails

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that were actually passable. So, of course, I

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did more driving down trails Sunday than I did

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Saturday, really. We did find a random dude in

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the middle of nowhere walking on the trail. That's

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spooky. Yeah, it was kind of spooky. He looked

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like he was out of breath and rolled down my

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window, and he's like, hey. And I'm like, hi.

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I said, you know, we're just on a trail group.

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We're cleaning up some of these trails and just

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having a nice summer ride. He goes, that's nice.

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I'm kind of back here on the trail, and I'm like,

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yeah, okay. Yeah, I see that. You're in the middle

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of nowhere, bud. He's like. Yeah, I wouldn't

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suppose you have like a tire repair kit or like

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a compressor, would you? I was like, boy, are

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you lucky. I said, probably every one of us got

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one. And then he goes, yeah, I got a hole in

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my sidewall. And I said, oh, well, you're probably

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not going to be able to repair that then. I said,

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I don't have any sidewall repair kits or anything.

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You'd have to have a glue tread, which I was

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supposed to buy before we went to Kentucky and

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didn't. So that's, well, we're just going to

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have to be careful. Yeah, we're going to have

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to add that to my kit too just to have, especially

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after this weekend, the amount of trees and stuff

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I drove over. I drove over a lot of trees this

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weekend. You just got to remember you have to

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replace your glue tread kit once a year. Yeah.

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Yeah, so. He started walking the trail, and I'm

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like, I'm just going to drive around you and

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find the car and see what we could do. So we

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got there. It's an old Liberty, Jeep Liberty,

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and city tires out in the middle. This trail

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was a little rougher because of all the trees

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that we were driving over. That was honestly

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the worst part of this weekend was just we were

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going over a 3 -4, you know. inch trees full

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trees at times and it was just like oh might

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pop a tire something might happen but other than

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that pretty clean and so we got around there

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and he's sitting cni gets out kid sleeping she

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starts checking over the tire and i'm like oh

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cool you got a spare in the back i touch the

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spare it's completely empty of air and then uh

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she's like oh She goes, yeah, no, it's right

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in the middle of the sidewall. There's no fixing

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this. So I'm like, okay, so we get the jack off

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the back of the truck and get my tools out. Sienna

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takes the tire off while I jack it up, and we

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switched out his spare, aired his spare up, and

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he was good to go. But apparently he had been

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there for hours. He had called DNR, and apparently

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they said they weren't working on the weekends,

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which I think is not true. And then he called.

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It kind of is. Yeah, maybe just not like that

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in that regard. And then he called 911 apparently,

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and they wouldn't even go out there. They had

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nothing. Right. So he was just walking down the

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trail trying to get back, and we were a few miles,

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man. We were out there. And then even where that

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lake is that we were camping, there's no residential

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houses nearby. It's mostly cabins. So he was

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going to be walking for a while, but we got him

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fixed up. Yeah, I don't know why people decide

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to go out that far without any type of plan.

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Well, in retrospect, he said that, and I said,

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yeah, that wasn't a very good idea. And he goes,

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well, I was trying to get to County Road so -and

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-so, and he goes, and Google Maps told me to

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go down this way. And I said, well, let me tell

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you your first lesson when you're doing any kind

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of off -road trail. I said, just don't use Google

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Maps. I said, it's going to take you down some

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crazy shit, and if you don't know what you're

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doing, this kind of stuff happens. And I didn't

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say it like that, but it was kind of like trying

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to be very nice. Implied. Yeah, implied about

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the situation. And, you know, he said, thank

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you. Do you want me to pay you? I said, no, of

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course not. And, you know, we went on our way,

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went down the trail, and then we saw a... a doe

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in the middle of the road with a bambi bambi

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was just laying in the road probably not even

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had to have been a couple weeks a couple days

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old probably like legs were still shaking almost

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a little wobbly so like if you were to go pick

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it up one hand or two oh that's a one -hander

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i could have took it yeah that's a couple days

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old a couple days old for sure yeah so it was

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sitting in the middle of the road i stopped And

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I was like, dude, look at this. And he sat literally,

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he got up, sat on the shoulder of the road and

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just laid down in the grass. That's what they

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do. I pulled up and I was like, hey, Bambi. And

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then it tried to get up and start running. I'm

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like, dude, I'm faster than you. I could catch

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you if I wanted. Did I tell you about the one,

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I think it was two years ago? The whole time

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I'm doing chores at the farm, I've got this little

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baby deer following me around, and he's just

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a screaming man. He wouldn't leave me alone,

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wouldn't go anywhere, was rubbing up against

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me, just would not leave me alone. And so my

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neighbor braves through the tall grass between

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our properties, and he's like, yeah, his mom

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got hit last night. We couldn't find him after

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she got hit. But we were out looking for a couple

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hours. So I called a rehab place for him and

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told them the story. And then they couldn't take

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him for like four or five hours while they got

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a box ready for him. So for five hours, I just

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had this little baby deer chilling on my couch

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with my dogs, eating snacks and stuff. Man, that

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would have been such a cool dog. And you could

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take it out camping with you. That would have

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been so cool. Oh, my God. Hey, this is Fawn.

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And then you just open the back door and this

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giant deer jumps out. That would have been so

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cool. He was super sweet, though. It was fun.

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Yeah, it was cool seeing the little Bambi. Saw

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some cool wildlife. There was a whole family

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of loons on the lake, so we got to hear that

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all night. Heard some barn owls, some coyotes.

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Did you get to hear some elk bugles? No elk bugles.

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The first night I thought it might have been

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an elk bugle, not like a male or maybe a female

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because I haven't heard what they sound like.

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Turned out it was just a loon and a weird loon

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call at that. Because I looked up female elk

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bugle or elk calls and it was horrible. It's

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like trees scratching together. It was not. Not

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good, so. So we'll have to, well, I guess it

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doesn't work the same on cars. So the Pigeon

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River area, you can ride your horse right between

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the elk herds. Like, they don't give a damn.

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Oh, yeah, probably. You just stay quiet and just

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ride your horse through, and as long as you're

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on the horse, they don't care about you. That

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was my first time in that area. It was really

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cool, dude, that Atlanta. pigeon river area they

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have like uh i was out we were out by like elk

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scenic areas like elk lookouts and they have

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on the trails if you just you're just driving

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all of a sudden you come into like this field

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of like dnr planted bluegrass or rye or something

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super cool but um once we went down the road

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a little bit man the trails were just everywhere

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you know it's like being up by um that Manton

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Cadillac area where they just trails everywhere.

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So I'd like to go back there, do some camping

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and, and just take a day or two to do up and

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go do trails. See what there is. Yeah. We used

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to on horses, not cars, obviously, but we do

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like 12 to 15 hour rides up there. Yeah. Yeah.

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We did probably, we only did about four hours

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left at probably 12, got done on like four or

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five. There's nothing really, I mean, I think

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what turned us off the most was just having to

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turn around so many damn times. I mean, if it

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was a work weekend. Four hours in a car is pretty

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close to 15 hours on horseback in distance traveled.

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Yeah, I recorded that trail ride. It was 27 miles

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that we had traveled totally on Onyx. uh i mean

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like i said it was fun it was absolutely gorgeous

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out that day um saturday so that was really nice

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the kids slept the whole time and he had a ball

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so all in all really good weekend i didn't do

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as much uh didn't do as much trail riding as

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i i wanted to to be honest but it was more about

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the kid at that point um truck worked fine um

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i did those uh those not the clevest points in

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the front the the shackles those hard shackles

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those were jangling around like crazy so i put

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some electrical tape around them just to kind

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of quiet them down a little bit because i thought

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something was breaking on my truck it was scary

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so yeah i uh man now you got me thinking about

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horses i've actually been thinking about i haven't

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ridden in probably two years just because i'm

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fat and lazy now but I've been really thinking

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with as much time as me and dad haven't been

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spending together, I want to get him to start

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riding again and get the horses out and get them

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ready. And I want to do a true cowboy camp for

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like a week where we camp in one site, get on,

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ride all day, set up camp, camp for a night,

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tear camp down, ride all day. Ton of fun. The

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OG overland experience. Hell yeah, man. Yeah.

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Throw my light fighter tent on the back of the

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horse with my army sleeping bag so I can look

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like a real guy. Yep, I'll have my Nemo dagger.

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It'd be cool if I had... I really want to get

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a bedroll. Do you know how expensive fucking

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bedrolls are? Yeah, we talked about this on a

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previous podcast. We mentioned... We might have.

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Yeah, an Australian maker that have been doing

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it for like ever. Oh, that's a swag. It's similar

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but slightly different. They're basically the

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same thing. But, yeah, like a bedroll, I found

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there's one on Marketplace right now for $400.

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I mean, isn't it just essentially like a blanket

00:15:30.090 --> 00:15:36.009
wax canvas? I mean. It's basically a canvas bag

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that holds your bedding and rolls up. Yeah. With

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a small mattress in it sometimes. For like, here's

00:15:44.870 --> 00:15:49.250
one from Browning and I'll link this in the show

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notes for any listeners that think this stuff

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sounds fun. But this one from Browning is like

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two 90 something. Yeah. Well, 300 basically.

00:16:02.350 --> 00:16:06.250
Oh yeah. That's pretty cool. It's got a, yeah,

00:16:06.549 --> 00:16:08.889
it's got an inflatable mattress, a sleeping bag,

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everything all included. I don't know. Bedrolls

00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:17.960
are cool. They're cool. I want to do some bedroll

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camping, but I also don't really want to do some

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bedroll camping. This weekend was cold. There's

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something romantic about the idea of bedroll

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camping, but every time I think about actually

00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:33.860
bedroll camping, I wimp out. No, I don't blame

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you. This weekend was cold enough that if I had

00:16:37.500 --> 00:16:41.320
a bedroll, I would have sat by the fire. It was...

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I mean, that's what... I know. That's what I'm

00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.379
saying, though, is I would have been right there.

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Yeah. It got down into the 30s. Honestly, we

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did fine. It was just an uncomfortable thing.

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It was like when your face is out of the tent,

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like exposed to the air, it's pretty uncomfortable.

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But also, bedrolls on average are significantly

00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:13.160
warmer than a tent would be. So there is that.

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Just the amount of heat that you keep just being

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next to the fire, just how much warmer it is.

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I mean, there was definitely no shortage of firewood

00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:30.579
this weekend up there. The canvas from a bedroll

00:17:30.579 --> 00:17:33.940
retains heat better than, say, your Nemo or a

00:17:33.940 --> 00:17:37.630
standard tent would. So if you've got some type

00:17:37.630 --> 00:17:40.269
of thermal pad in the bottom of your bedroll,

00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:42.670
they're going to be significantly warmer than

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a tent. Yeah, I know. It would be nice. Do some

00:17:46.730 --> 00:17:52.309
pork and beans. Some Tex -Mex chili or something.

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I don't know. But I'm also not going to spend

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the cost of a bedroll for, like, what I'd probably

00:18:00.210 --> 00:18:03.769
use one weekend. Yeah. We'll do that for the...

00:18:04.299 --> 00:18:06.619
When we do tractor overlanding in the future.

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Yeah. Moverlanding. That would actually be like

00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:19.400
the place to use a bedroll would be moverlanding.

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I mean, a trailer probably wouldn't kill you,

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but it's like, why? Kind of the point of moverlanding

00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:33.529
is to have everything on your mower. That would

00:18:33.529 --> 00:18:36.289
be fun. I would love to do that at some point

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when I have a good stable job environment. LOL.

00:18:43.829 --> 00:18:48.609
Yeah, LOL. In other news, I quit today, so I'm

00:18:48.609 --> 00:18:51.829
unemployed for the next week probably until I

00:18:51.829 --> 00:18:55.170
find something else. Yeah, and how did I find

00:18:55.170 --> 00:18:57.710
out? It wasn't from Gavin. Oh, no, it's from

00:18:57.710 --> 00:19:00.549
his workers. Tell Gavin we already miss him.

00:19:00.630 --> 00:19:04.630
Aw, that's so sweet. Yeah. Tell the boss to fuck

00:19:04.630 --> 00:19:09.789
off. Yeah. He got what he deserved. Plot an asshole.

00:19:10.150 --> 00:19:15.230
Did he? No, he didn't. But... Oh. You know, at

00:19:15.230 --> 00:19:17.369
some point you have to start weighing it. Like,

00:19:17.450 --> 00:19:19.990
I come back into service and all I get is notifications

00:19:19.990 --> 00:19:24.650
about how he's being a D -bag. It's like, all

00:19:24.650 --> 00:19:28.869
right, I'm done. I don't need this. So... I'm

00:19:28.869 --> 00:19:30.650
the bigger and better. I've been filling out

00:19:30.650 --> 00:19:36.029
applications all day today. I have had two job

00:19:36.029 --> 00:19:39.910
offers that I'm holding off on. One's from Alex.

00:19:40.269 --> 00:19:45.069
Oh, okay. The other is a let me talk to them

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and see if they can do something kind of offer.

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And that one might not be too bad. I think Mike

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Horton and Muskegon is one of those. I guess

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they hire a bunch of people for, like, CDLs,

00:20:00.420 --> 00:20:05.359
and they just pass that window, and he's going

00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:09.099
to see if they can maybe do something. Otherwise,

00:20:09.259 --> 00:20:13.220
I'm looking around, trying to find something,

00:20:13.299 --> 00:20:18.180
but I'm oddly happy. You could come pick up dead

00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:20.980
turkeys. Man, if you guys paid me enough, I probably

00:20:20.980 --> 00:20:26.130
would. They don't. But. They pay you enough for

00:20:26.130 --> 00:20:28.069
you to have a job while you look, and it's always

00:20:28.069 --> 00:20:32.549
easier to find a job when you have a job. Don't

00:20:32.549 --> 00:20:34.950
ask me why. It's just the truth. Almost, yeah.

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I think sometimes it's like the energy that I

00:20:38.690 --> 00:20:43.670
take to look. It's almost like when you get home,

00:20:43.769 --> 00:20:46.650
it's like you don't have it. I don't know what

00:20:46.650 --> 00:20:48.769
the shifts are over there. I know they're bad

00:20:48.769 --> 00:20:50.490
for you, but I don't know how they are for your

00:20:50.490 --> 00:20:55.619
hands. No, they work. Between like five and eight

00:20:55.619 --> 00:20:59.700
hours a day, maybe. Yeah. That's like a half

00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:03.559
day. Yeah, it's like schedule your own schedule

00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:09.220
kind of thing, so. Hmm, okay. Interesting. We'll

00:21:09.220 --> 00:21:11.640
have to talk off air and talk about pay and stuff

00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.160
because maybe that would be something I'd do

00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:20.119
just to have something. Although I hate working

00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:25.400
in that condition, I'll put up with it. I mean,

00:21:25.420 --> 00:21:27.640
most of what I'd have you do really is yard work.

00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:33.319
Yard work? Like picking. Like mow the lawn. I

00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.859
like mowing lawns. Weed whacking. I like weed

00:21:36.859 --> 00:21:42.259
whacking. Spraying weeds with weed killer. I

00:21:42.259 --> 00:21:47.740
like doing that. Can I do it from a mower? Do

00:21:47.740 --> 00:21:53.170
a drive -by? Side by side. I sit on the driver's

00:21:53.170 --> 00:21:55.890
seat of my side -by -side with a sprayer in my

00:21:55.890 --> 00:21:58.230
hand and spray all the weeds that he killed.

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I mean, I don't know how a hand could not do

00:22:01.750 --> 00:22:05.549
well at that. That's all, like, fun stuff. I

00:22:05.549 --> 00:22:11.769
mean, that's summertime handwork. Usually it's

00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:17.670
a lot more involved than that, but for you, that's

00:22:17.670 --> 00:22:19.509
all I'd probably have you do because I know you're

00:22:19.509 --> 00:22:21.680
not going to stick around. So I wouldn't take

00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.599
the time to teach you the bird stuff. What a

00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:30.119
sweetie pie. Yeah. And if you're able to do that,

00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:32.140
that gives me lots of time to take care of the

00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:35.000
birds. Yeah. Well, I could definitely do that.

00:22:36.779 --> 00:22:38.799
Yeah, we'll be in contact. I'll talk to my boss

00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.680
a little bit. Yeah, we'll be in contact. I think

00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.559
I know how to get a hold of you, where to find

00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:48.829
you. Maybe. It's almost like we talk once a week

00:22:48.829 --> 00:22:51.849
or something. It's kind of sad that we live five

00:22:51.849 --> 00:22:53.769
minutes away and it's still once a week. I mean,

00:22:53.789 --> 00:22:56.829
it's more than that, but I got to come around

00:22:56.829 --> 00:22:58.269
more. I mean, we talk on the group chat all the

00:22:58.269 --> 00:23:01.109
time. I got to come around more. It was because

00:23:01.109 --> 00:23:08.420
of work. Now I'm free. Dude, Facebook's cracking

00:23:08.420 --> 00:23:12.119
me up because it recommended Sean from StoryTel

00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.059
now as a friend this morning. Yeah, you saw that

00:23:15.059 --> 00:23:20.740
group chat. And then it just recommended, I don't

00:23:20.740 --> 00:23:22.559
even know who this is, but I know that they work

00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.380
with XOverland. We have like two mutual friends.

00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:28.039
Like for whatever reason, Facebook's like, yo,

00:23:28.339 --> 00:23:33.279
all these people. Connect, please. And it's like,

00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.559
yeah, but like. I'm not at their level, and they

00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:42.480
don't know me. That's okay. Oh, you know what?

00:23:43.660 --> 00:23:49.400
If I had more moolah saved, I would come and

00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:51.460
just be a videographer for you at Leatherwood.

00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.079
Oh, yeah. I was just thinking about that this

00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:56.740
morning. I'm like, now I could go to Leatherwood.

00:23:57.019 --> 00:24:02.940
I was like, I would have to ride with Alex. I'm

00:24:02.940 --> 00:24:06.000
doing pretty much the whole trip financed. Yeah.

00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:09.099
Like, it's terrible. Yeah, I can't do that. Especially

00:24:09.099 --> 00:24:13.000
without a job. It kind of puts us into the negative.

00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:18.740
But if I was thinking about it, definitely thinking

00:24:18.740 --> 00:24:20.500
about doing, like, a ride -along or something

00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:24.900
with one of the free passenger seats, if anybody

00:24:24.900 --> 00:24:31.980
had any. I mean. We could always stick Wrangler

00:24:31.980 --> 00:24:33.980
in Mark's truck, which would free up a spot in

00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:38.720
my truck. True. Because right now I got two dogs

00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.519
filling the back of my truck. Yeah, I was just

00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.599
kind of thinking it would be cool to be able

00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:46.259
to get this stuff on video and have someone.

00:24:46.859 --> 00:24:52.039
If I'm not driving, I'm dedicated to that. Yeah,

00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.559
I know Alan's going to do some videoing. I'll

00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:58.690
probably end up doing some videoing. At least

00:24:58.690 --> 00:25:01.289
real stuff. That's, you know, we don't do the

00:25:01.289 --> 00:25:03.450
whole YouTube thing that much. And we probably

00:25:03.450 --> 00:25:05.430
should. I think the reason we don't is because

00:25:05.430 --> 00:25:09.210
we don't have the chance, if that makes sense.

00:25:10.829 --> 00:25:17.430
I don't know. I'm not really. To do well on YouTube

00:25:17.430 --> 00:25:22.029
in this space, you really have to be able to

00:25:22.029 --> 00:25:25.990
set up shots perfectly and get these big, beautiful

00:25:25.990 --> 00:25:29.930
sweeping shots. And along with that, be able

00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:33.410
to edit very, very well. And then along with

00:25:33.410 --> 00:25:35.509
that, also have a good narration. Very true.

00:25:35.829 --> 00:25:39.589
I think we have a pretty good narration. I think

00:25:39.589 --> 00:25:42.670
we're okay at storytelling, but we're really

00:25:42.670 --> 00:25:46.829
bad. Not really bad. We're bad at long -form

00:25:46.829 --> 00:25:51.390
video. Yep. You know, reels, we can make funny,

00:25:51.410 --> 00:25:54.069
interesting reels all day long. And we do. We

00:25:54.069 --> 00:25:57.890
make some really fun ones. But I'm willing to

00:25:57.890 --> 00:26:00.950
admit that the long -form YouTube -type content

00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.309
is not for me. You know what? I think couldn't

00:26:03.309 --> 00:26:06.349
we get better equipment for that, camera equipment,

00:26:06.490 --> 00:26:10.940
easier to work with? Like, for instance... Like

00:26:10.940 --> 00:26:13.220
the DJI drones, a lot of people now are using

00:26:13.220 --> 00:26:18.680
those as most of their long -form YouTube capturing

00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.720
equipment on the trail, off the trail, scenic.

00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:24.460
And something like that would really enhance

00:26:24.460 --> 00:26:31.039
the quality of what we could produce. Now, then

00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.220
comes the next thing with editing video, right?

00:26:33.339 --> 00:26:36.200
When I edit a podcast, let's say we do an hour

00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:40.680
-long podcast, I might spend... 45 minutes to

00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.480
two hours editing that, depending on how bad

00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:47.180
or muddled the audio is, right? And I don't cut

00:26:47.180 --> 00:26:52.640
out a lot. We do, I call it almost live to air,

00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.160
where pretty much everything that we capture

00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.500
is what gets posted, right? Now, with video,

00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:05.000
it's every 10 minutes of video is an hour and

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.500
a half to two hours of editing. Lots of chopping.

00:27:10.630 --> 00:27:15.950
So, not only do I not quite have the skill...

00:27:15.950 --> 00:27:19.230
I do, actually. I'm not a bad video editor. I've

00:27:19.230 --> 00:27:22.930
done it for most of my life. But I don't have

00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.650
the patience to sit here and edit a video when

00:27:26.650 --> 00:27:29.730
I could be, you know, wrenching on my truck or,

00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:31.950
you know, at work making money. Yeah, that's

00:27:31.950 --> 00:27:33.329
the thing. It's just... Because you're not getting

00:27:33.329 --> 00:27:37.279
paid for it. And we're still working full -time

00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.940
jobs on top of this. So it's really hard to justify

00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:44.759
doing all that work for something for, and for

00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.339
something for honestly, no money. No, I mean,

00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:49.099
we're not getting a tons of views. We're not

00:27:49.099 --> 00:27:54.480
cranking out and getting monetization. So yeah,

00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.039
that's kind of the path to get there, but it's

00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:58.799
a lot of work to get there while we're already

00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.930
doing full -time jobs. Right. And honestly, I'm

00:28:02.930 --> 00:28:05.289
not looking for it. Like anyone listening, if

00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:07.390
someone wants to partner with us, that'd be awesome.

00:28:07.670 --> 00:28:09.990
But I'm not like out searching for partners.

00:28:10.710 --> 00:28:15.410
I think that what we put out is a fun show that's

00:28:15.410 --> 00:28:18.390
got no ads. If you want to give us a little bit

00:28:18.390 --> 00:28:20.950
of boost or kickback, go ahead. You know, we've

00:28:20.950 --> 00:28:23.589
got value for value stuff set up. I need to set

00:28:23.589 --> 00:28:25.569
up PayPal. I keep talking about it and then not

00:28:25.569 --> 00:28:29.029
doing it. But if you want to do the value for

00:28:29.029 --> 00:28:30.589
value thing, we're good with that. But really.

00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:34.299
I enjoy just sitting and shooting the shit and

00:28:34.299 --> 00:28:37.140
spending a little bit of time editing it, and

00:28:37.140 --> 00:28:40.220
that's it. I'm not looking for money out of this.

00:28:40.940 --> 00:28:44.700
I would love for it to be a full -time thing,

00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.559
but I'm not overly pushing it either. You know

00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:50.759
what I mean? Like, man, would this be fun to

00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:55.099
do full -time? Oh, yeah. If we had started the

00:28:55.099 --> 00:29:01.210
podcast, say, 2018. 2019 maybe 2017 to 2019 somewhere

00:29:01.210 --> 00:29:04.369
in there we could easily be doing this full -time

00:29:04.369 --> 00:29:09.390
by now but in the the space that podcasting is

00:29:09.390 --> 00:29:13.490
today it's just it's not possible you know you

00:29:13.490 --> 00:29:19.319
could if you go Spotify only. Spotify owns the

00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:21.259
rights to everything and pays you pennies on

00:29:21.259 --> 00:29:24.240
the dollar. If you go Apple podcast only, which

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.259
that's where all the listeners are, is Spotify

00:29:26.259 --> 00:29:29.599
and Apple podcast. And if you go either one of

00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.160
those, you could have a huge show and make pennies.

00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.420
It just, it doesn't matter. Podcasting is, I'm

00:29:37.420 --> 00:29:39.000
not going to say it's dead because there's still

00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.579
people listening, but monetized podcasting, it's

00:29:41.579 --> 00:29:45.099
honestly kind of dead. Yeah, I mean, you got

00:29:45.099 --> 00:29:50.250
to be. Big, big for it to even matter. And even

00:29:50.250 --> 00:29:53.750
then, it's small checks throughout all the platforms

00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:58.069
that make up one big one. On Spotify, you have

00:29:58.069 --> 00:30:01.970
to have 10 ,000 downloads per episode before

00:30:01.970 --> 00:30:07.930
they start paying you. We're getting close. Yeah,

00:30:07.950 --> 00:30:11.309
you know, 30. Lately, it's been like 20, but

00:30:11.309 --> 00:30:13.089
that's because we're only doing an episode a

00:30:13.089 --> 00:30:17.289
week. When we were doing two episodes a week,

00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:19.670
I mean, we were getting pretty regular. You're

00:30:19.670 --> 00:30:21.829
hitting high 30s, mid 40s, somewhere in there.

00:30:23.450 --> 00:30:26.650
Which isn't bad for us. We'll get back to that.

00:30:27.829 --> 00:30:33.150
Excuse me. We'll get back to it. It just... Right

00:30:33.150 --> 00:30:35.230
now, we are all so freaking... Well, you're not

00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:37.109
so freaking busy anymore. Not anymore. I could

00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:40.710
just bullshit and drop episodes. I don't know.

00:30:41.710 --> 00:30:45.240
I could talk about... The birds and the bees.

00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.220
I could talk about Sasquatch vlogs. My new favorite.

00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.119
I've got... Actually, I was going to talk to

00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.680
you about this. Now that you aren't doing anything,

00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.500
and maybe even work this in, I don't know if

00:31:01.500 --> 00:31:04.400
you've taken the time to look at Outskirts Overland

00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.279
at all. Not yet, actually. That was after this.

00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.160
I was going to put that on while I was job hunting.

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.599
Again, his audio quality fucking abysmal, but

00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.740
the content he puts out is fantastic. If his

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:22.640
audio isn't cutting in and out the whole time,

00:31:22.700 --> 00:31:26.240
he's given me an idea though. I think I want

00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.319
to start doing, it'll be a separate channel from

00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.240
this one, but like a 15 minutes every day, just

00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:40.089
daily vlog style podcast. and something like

00:31:40.089 --> 00:31:42.670
that for like you, and I'm not saying, not necessarily

00:31:42.670 --> 00:31:45.650
vlog style, but like you just come up with a

00:31:45.650 --> 00:31:48.410
off -road or overland topic that you can talk

00:31:48.410 --> 00:31:51.230
about for 15 minutes and just do it every day.

00:31:52.849 --> 00:31:56.829
Not a bad idea. You know, you really enjoy recording,

00:31:57.069 --> 00:31:59.369
and if you were to do that, putting out that

00:31:59.369 --> 00:32:01.710
much content, you're going to get bigger. Yeah,

00:32:02.569 --> 00:32:07.230
that's not a bad idea. As much as you bug me

00:32:07.230 --> 00:32:09.710
to record when we're not scheduled to, it'd be

00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:11.789
good for you, man. Yeah. I think you'd love it.

00:32:11.910 --> 00:32:16.349
I do enjoy this. If I had, if I was paid to do

00:32:16.349 --> 00:32:20.549
this, I would enjoy it that much more. I think

00:32:20.549 --> 00:32:23.410
it's just, and it's when I get home from work,

00:32:23.410 --> 00:32:25.809
you know, working, you do your 11 hours and then

00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:28.109
you get home, you're already tired. You have

00:32:28.109 --> 00:32:31.170
kids and all that to deal with. Yep. If I could

00:32:31.170 --> 00:32:34.640
come in, you know, start work at 8. work for

00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.400
five or so hours to edit and do this and that,

00:32:38.500 --> 00:32:42.740
record, whatever. Oh, yeah. I'd be all down for

00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:45.680
that. You know, manage the marketing and the

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.420
media aspect. Yep. And if you're doing daily

00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:52.619
stuff, there's almost no editing. Just take what

00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:56.299
you recorded and air it. Yeah, that's a good

00:32:56.299 --> 00:32:59.279
idea. That's the beauty of it. That's a very

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:03.549
good idea. If you want to do that, don't forget

00:33:03.549 --> 00:33:07.690
that I also pay monthly for element .fm. It's

00:33:07.690 --> 00:33:10.210
$5 a month, and we can have as many shows as

00:33:10.210 --> 00:33:13.430
we want over there. Yeah, we'll have to talk

00:33:13.430 --> 00:33:15.109
about that because I don't quite understand that

00:33:15.109 --> 00:33:18.369
stuff. So we'll have to go over that a little

00:33:18.369 --> 00:33:23.190
bit. I'd like to start shifting us over to element

00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:27.990
.fm, but I'm also not at a point where... I'm

00:33:27.990 --> 00:33:30.269
ready to do that because then subscribers have

00:33:30.269 --> 00:33:33.089
to change where they get our show from. And it's

00:33:33.089 --> 00:33:37.529
just, to me, it's hard to, if Element had been

00:33:37.529 --> 00:33:40.890
out when we actually started, it would have been

00:33:40.890 --> 00:33:43.430
fine. Yeah, we're pretty well established now.

00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:47.630
Exactly. To change now, it just wouldn't work.

00:33:48.970 --> 00:33:52.970
Oh, you know, that reminds me. Did you make a,

00:33:53.049 --> 00:34:01.319
whoa, what is all this? Is that you? Oh, it just

00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:03.779
said new audio, this and that detected. It was

00:34:03.779 --> 00:34:09.900
weird. But anyway, did you guys make a decision

00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:12.179
on the tires yet, which you're thinking of switching

00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:17.139
to? Have you made that? Yeah, yeah. We haven't

00:34:17.139 --> 00:34:20.739
picked wheels yet. We've got a few options that

00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:23.539
are on the table. But tires, we're going to go

00:34:23.539 --> 00:34:26.679
with some Gladiator X -Comps. X -Comps. All right,

00:34:26.699 --> 00:34:28.920
cool. I didn't know if you guys made that decision.

00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:35.360
Yeah, they're just a decent off -road or all

00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:41.039
-terrain. We've ran, like, my siblings both,

00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:45.679
well, my youngest sibling just traded her JK

00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:52.119
in on a Bronco Badlands. So she doesn't have

00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.840
the XCOMs anymore. But they both had XCOMs. They're

00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.000
great. For what they are, they're great. It's

00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:06.019
like $800 for a set of four 35s. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.280
Yeah, I will say that I'm very impressed so far

00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.739
with the Wild Peaks performance just in general

00:35:13.739 --> 00:35:16.619
from what I've had. So I'm going to be sticking

00:35:16.619 --> 00:35:19.480
with those for a while. I might go to the RTs

00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.219
at some point. Ken does try those or the Baja

00:35:23.219 --> 00:35:28.389
Bosses at some point. Baja bosses are great,

00:35:28.469 --> 00:35:31.369
but they're really expensive for what they are.

00:35:31.949 --> 00:35:36.429
Oh, you know what? Let's switch topic again real

00:35:36.429 --> 00:35:39.010
quick. Let's keep it moving. Oh, I just sent

00:35:39.010 --> 00:35:41.210
you the wheels that we're looking at. I like

00:35:41.210 --> 00:35:43.909
those. I think I'm just going to buy your old

00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:49.809
wheels from you. Yeah, they'll be there. Oh,

00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:54.170
pod lighting. Those lights that we set up on

00:35:54.170 --> 00:35:57.780
the side of the roof rack? Not only were great

00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:03.800
to help keep visuals on the wolf box while driving

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:07.659
on the back and the front, but also when I got

00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:11.699
into camp, we rotated all those lights out. I

00:36:11.699 --> 00:36:14.619
mean, amazing area lighting. We just had that

00:36:14.619 --> 00:36:18.699
set up. Now it attracted the bugs like crazy,

00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.179
but it was away from us. So we set the tent up

00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:25.650
with that area lighting only. and we got to camp

00:36:25.650 --> 00:36:30.449
at like 12, so it was perfect. So I'm super happy

00:36:30.449 --> 00:36:33.650
with how we had those set up. You know, it sucks

00:36:33.650 --> 00:36:37.929
that they're bolted on, so the more you move

00:36:37.929 --> 00:36:39.190
them, the more you have to tighten them, but

00:36:39.190 --> 00:36:43.809
that's really kind of inconsequential. Like it

00:36:43.809 --> 00:36:46.849
takes a second, grab the 10 mil, tighten them

00:36:46.849 --> 00:36:50.190
up, you're done. So super, super excited about

00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:53.940
how that worked out. Maybe we could come up with

00:36:53.940 --> 00:36:59.119
some kind of pivot for those. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:03.679
Yeah. That did work out very well. Also solidified

00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:08.460
this weekend, I solidified my I'm getting a pop

00:37:08.460 --> 00:37:14.920
-up pooper. And probably a shower. Yeah. Well,

00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.440
that can be all one and the same. No, like the

00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:24.219
showerhead. Oh. Yeah. You can have mine. Mine's

00:37:24.219 --> 00:37:26.360
pretty great. I might take you up on that. We

00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.099
just don't use it. Because I - Yeah, we just

00:37:29.099 --> 00:37:32.179
don't use it. I was going for the geyser. And

00:37:32.179 --> 00:37:35.880
then there's a company, I think it's called Flex

00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.820
something. Flextail. They make a lot of inflate

00:37:39.820 --> 00:37:44.659
products for hiking. They have one that looks

00:37:44.659 --> 00:37:47.159
like it works really well. And it's just, I mean,

00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:49.179
it's an electric pump that goes down into a bucket.

00:37:50.829 --> 00:37:54.690
Yeah, I remember that. But the price difference

00:37:54.690 --> 00:37:58.449
is so good. And honestly, I can heat the water

00:37:58.449 --> 00:38:02.070
up on the stove. I'm trying to think of, if I

00:38:02.070 --> 00:38:06.389
get the geyser, it's a lot of extra space. I

00:38:06.389 --> 00:38:09.510
could hide it behind next to my water tank, which

00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:15.289
worked great this weekend. But I think I'm just

00:38:15.289 --> 00:38:17.349
going to go with that. It's smaller, more compact.

00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:21.429
We actually ran into a case this weekend where

00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:24.630
it would have been really nice. Jasper had a

00:38:24.630 --> 00:38:28.289
dirty diaper, and instead of sitting still while

00:38:28.289 --> 00:38:31.369
we were changing him, he decided to run like

00:38:31.369 --> 00:38:35.449
20 yards and all down his leg, all over his butt.

00:38:35.929 --> 00:38:39.889
Look, he had a blast this weekend, but when he

00:38:39.889 --> 00:38:44.170
did that, it was like a 10 -minute wiping bath.

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:51.099
Then lots of hand sanitizer, and it's just, it

00:38:51.099 --> 00:38:53.380
was like, you know what? We need the shower.

00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:00.780
Yeah, I got mine for our first trip because after,

00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.500
like, three days, you just kind of want to rinse

00:39:03.500 --> 00:39:05.539
off a little bit. Like, I'm not talking a full

00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:08.969
-blown shower, but, like. Yep. I got to clean

00:39:08.969 --> 00:39:11.389
my junk every day and I can only clean it four

00:39:11.389 --> 00:39:15.110
days with a baby wipe before it's like, all right.

00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:18.409
I mean, I will say that I was using dude wipes

00:39:18.409 --> 00:39:22.389
and those types like Duke makes them. They're

00:39:22.389 --> 00:39:26.170
like large paper, wetted paper towels. Yeah.

00:39:27.250 --> 00:39:30.409
And those work pretty well to keep you in a base

00:39:30.409 --> 00:39:34.050
clean, but they don't refresh you and that doesn't

00:39:34.050 --> 00:39:37.820
do much for your hair. Exactly. So. Um, you know,

00:39:37.820 --> 00:39:43.280
my dude wipes, dude wipes are okay, but honestly,

00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:46.539
price to usage wise, baby wipes. I mean, you

00:39:46.539 --> 00:39:50.719
could buy a hundred baby wipes for a couple bucks.

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.940
I mean, we used to, when I was in the field,

00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.360
cause I used to, when I was in the army, uh,

00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.579
we were in the field at least one week every

00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:03.349
month. And literally I would go buy like. the

00:40:03.349 --> 00:40:06.750
big bulk baby wipe with like 1500 wipes in it

00:40:06.750 --> 00:40:09.989
from like Sam's club or something or Costco.

00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:13.269
And I just put it in my closet and grab a hundred

00:40:13.269 --> 00:40:16.030
for every field exercise. I mean, it's, it just,

00:40:16.130 --> 00:40:18.889
and it'd be like 20 bucks. Like it was cheap

00:40:18.889 --> 00:40:20.829
and cheap. That's a good way to, that's a good

00:40:20.829 --> 00:40:23.809
way to go around all the, the dude wipe thing

00:40:23.809 --> 00:40:27.989
is to do that. And, you know, if you are worried

00:40:27.989 --> 00:40:29.969
about space and stuff, just take like a hundred.

00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.980
Or 50 out of the pack, throw it in a small Ziploc

00:40:33.980 --> 00:40:36.800
baggie and throw it in your backpack or whatever.

00:40:37.340 --> 00:40:41.840
But they're not that big. Like I said, I used

00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.360
to take it to the field when all I could take

00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.539
was a rucksack. And honestly, even civilian -wise,

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:54.260
we don't need near as much stuff. And you can

00:40:54.260 --> 00:40:57.880
fit. We do. We don't do the comfort thing as

00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.699
much as you do, I guess. But, like, me and Mark,

00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.679
we can fit pretty much an entire week's worth

00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.519
of stuff in a really small compartment. I've

00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:11.400
got all of mine and Kaylin's clothes packed for

00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:15.699
five days' worth, right? And they all fit inside

00:41:15.699 --> 00:41:19.139
of one of those little half -packout bags. Yeah.

00:41:19.659 --> 00:41:24.079
That, man, really restricting your clothing helps

00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:28.059
a lot, too. We ended up having more space on

00:41:28.059 --> 00:41:30.340
our way back because I kind of organized as I

00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:34.860
put stuff away. And organization's really the

00:41:34.860 --> 00:41:38.119
key to effectiveness when you're doing that stuff.

00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:40.119
A lot of people, I got a lot of compliments this

00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:43.099
weekend about how organized I was and how efficient

00:41:43.099 --> 00:41:46.659
the whole back of the FJ was. And I was like,

00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.420
oh, it's kind of nice to see some appreciation

00:41:49.420 --> 00:41:51.579
for something I've worked pretty hard to do.

00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.739
Made a post on. fj nation or whatever and people

00:41:55.739 --> 00:41:57.380
are like oh my god how do you set up the drawers

00:41:57.380 --> 00:41:59.619
how do you mount them i'm like it's such a tight

00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:01.579
fit i don't even have to screw these things down

00:42:01.579 --> 00:42:06.519
like they don't go anywhere no the the back of

00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.639
your fj is really efficient you have packed so

00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:13.619
much Okay, don't take this offensively. So much

00:42:13.619 --> 00:42:17.039
shit in such a small space. Like, it's crazy.

00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:22.400
I'm excited about it, man. My favorite part about

00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.059
this weekend was the on -demand water. Oh, my

00:42:25.059 --> 00:42:27.659
gosh, that was so nice. I literally just moved

00:42:27.659 --> 00:42:30.199
the faucet to where I needed it, washing hands,

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.139
washing out the pan. I just pick up the faucet,

00:42:33.139 --> 00:42:36.039
put it on the pan to help clean it. Really nice.

00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:40.809
I need to do some research. But I've been thinking

00:42:40.809 --> 00:42:44.369
about picking up a fuel tank from, like, not

00:42:44.369 --> 00:42:49.710
a used fuel tank, obviously, but, like, a new

00:42:49.710 --> 00:42:54.150
fuel tank off Marketplace or Amazon or something,

00:42:54.289 --> 00:42:58.349
mounting it under the trailer for water. Like,

00:42:58.489 --> 00:43:01.469
bulk water. Think about it. Let's say I fit 10

00:43:01.469 --> 00:43:04.070
gallons in there. Yeah, we did well this weekend.

00:43:04.150 --> 00:43:06.230
I don't know what I'm down to. I should check,

00:43:06.429 --> 00:43:11.800
but I used it pretty... I didn't use it conservatively,

00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.480
so I can't really say that, but I used it as

00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.199
much as I could and we didn't go through any,

00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.539
you know, all of it. That's for sure. So I, I

00:43:21.539 --> 00:43:26.619
think it was a pretty good way to go. Yeah. I'm

00:43:26.619 --> 00:43:29.900
going to do like, I've talked about this in the

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:32.159
past. I'm going to convert a pack out into a

00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.369
water storage and then. That'll be it. I'll just

00:43:37.369 --> 00:43:39.369
do that with a pump kind of like the one you've

00:43:39.369 --> 00:43:42.190
got and have like two different hose hookups

00:43:42.190 --> 00:43:44.889
for it. I think my biggest issue was garbage

00:43:44.889 --> 00:43:46.909
storage. Like I need to find a way to reduce

00:43:46.909 --> 00:43:49.650
the amount of garbage I put out other than burning

00:43:49.650 --> 00:43:51.289
things that shouldn't be burned in the fire.

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:54.449
Like obviously I threw all the paper stuff away,

00:43:54.610 --> 00:43:58.449
but it was like, I came out with one full garbage

00:43:58.449 --> 00:44:02.190
bag and I was like, man, this is more than it

00:44:02.190 --> 00:44:06.769
should be for three days. That's definitely something

00:44:06.769 --> 00:44:11.630
I've been looking at a lot lately. One of the

00:44:11.630 --> 00:44:14.630
things that I found is we picked up these reusable

00:44:14.630 --> 00:44:18.710
Ziploc bags off Amazon. I think it was $20 for

00:44:18.710 --> 00:44:22.510
like 50 of them. And that cuts down on my waste

00:44:22.510 --> 00:44:28.769
so much. Yeah. That's the big one. Another one

00:44:28.769 --> 00:44:32.809
for me, when I'm buying, I try to primarily focus

00:44:32.809 --> 00:44:38.239
on buying boxed items. So we bought Pop -Tarts,

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.960
Rice Krispies for snacks, any kind of boxed item,

00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:46.659
non -plastic, so that we could use it for Firestarter

00:44:46.659 --> 00:44:50.280
and stuff, the box. And then we would just condense

00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.500
it into one box, throw all the snacks into one.

00:44:52.739 --> 00:44:56.820
And what I would do there is I would take those

00:44:56.820 --> 00:44:59.639
Pop -Tarts, because I like to have less trash.

00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.400
in the field i don't mind the trash generation

00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.800
like i'm not trying to be like conservative on

00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.059
that but i don't like to deal with it when i'm

00:45:07.059 --> 00:45:10.579
out there so i would almost take those pop tarts

00:45:10.579 --> 00:45:13.559
out put them in a reusable zip bag and then put

00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.079
them back in the box that would that would not

00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.179
be bad um the the wrappers weren't they didn't

00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:20.880
take up a lot of space so that wasn't like a

00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:25.239
huge thing but it's a good idea um i think mainly

00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.380
it was like cans Like we weren't crushing cans.

00:45:28.539 --> 00:45:30.880
We probably should have crushed some cans. Diapers.

00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.519
You can't do much about diapers out there. Yeah,

00:45:34.780 --> 00:45:36.900
you can't get away from diapers. You can't throw

00:45:36.900 --> 00:45:39.519
them in a fire. You can't throw them in the woods.

00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.340
You got to pack them out. Same thing with our

00:45:42.340 --> 00:45:45.880
refuse. I mean, unless you were digging holes

00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:53.019
and we could. I've kind of helped with that one

00:45:53.019 --> 00:45:56.019
there. Don't dig holes. Burying your poop is

00:45:56.019 --> 00:45:57.480
not good. It's not good for the environment.

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:01.860
Let's say 50 people park in the same spot. Those

00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.380
50 people all poop in the same spot. That's going

00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:06.300
to poison the earth. That's just how it works.

00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.699
But what you could do is I should have sent some

00:46:11.699 --> 00:46:13.659
of that poo powder with you. I kind of feel bad

00:46:13.659 --> 00:46:16.159
now. Well, so what I ended up doing is we went

00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.960
to Walmart and we got the cheapest all natural

00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:24.239
biodegradable kitty litter. And we used kitty

00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.800
litter, and then that absorbed most of the refuse,

00:46:28.019 --> 00:46:32.739
and then we put them in scented trash bags, and

00:46:32.739 --> 00:46:36.239
you couldn't smell it. I mean, so we had regular

00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.900
plastic, like, office trash bags for the toilet

00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:44.820
with the kitty litter in there. I would just

00:46:44.820 --> 00:46:47.920
grab a handful, throw it in there, and then...

00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.840
I would bag those up nice and tight and throw

00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:55.280
them into a Febreze bag or whatever, and we didn't

00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.820
smell anything. It's just still too close to

00:46:57.820 --> 00:47:02.199
camp. I would double up trash bags and then use

00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.320
my poop powder, which the poop powder neutralizes

00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.619
as best as it can the smell of the poop and then

00:47:07.619 --> 00:47:11.199
turns the liquid into a gel. That way it's not

00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.099
leaking. So I would do that, and you could get

00:47:14.099 --> 00:47:18.949
two -ish. bathroom times out of one bag that

00:47:18.949 --> 00:47:24.110
way two to three um that luckily we were all

00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:26.469
we were all guys so no one was pissing you know

00:47:26.469 --> 00:47:28.690
they were all shitting in there not pissing in

00:47:28.690 --> 00:47:34.269
there i uh so uh here's here's a crazy crazy

00:47:34.269 --> 00:47:39.789
crazy but useful for me tip take a modium the

00:47:39.789 --> 00:47:43.489
day before or right before you start on your

00:47:43.489 --> 00:47:47.590
trip. I kid you not, we had Arby's on the way

00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:54.369
up and I pooped probably four times within five

00:47:54.369 --> 00:47:58.329
hours after getting to camp. Wow. I took the

00:47:58.329 --> 00:48:02.489
Imodium between like third and fourth poop and

00:48:02.489 --> 00:48:05.849
didn't poop the rest of the weekend. And it wasn't

00:48:05.849 --> 00:48:10.110
uncomfortable either. Like it just stopped it,

00:48:10.130 --> 00:48:15.340
whatever was going on. Then on Sunday, I felt

00:48:15.340 --> 00:48:17.699
that urge, and we ended up stopping at a rest

00:48:17.699 --> 00:48:20.940
stop. And, you know, yeah, it's an extra 20 minutes

00:48:20.940 --> 00:48:22.980
because it takes a second for everything to start

00:48:22.980 --> 00:48:26.980
moving again. But that's been the problem solver

00:48:26.980 --> 00:48:29.460
to my issues because I have some, like, anxious

00:48:29.460 --> 00:48:32.440
bowel issues and stuff like that. So it's like

00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.460
that has been a lifesaver for me, taking the

00:48:35.460 --> 00:48:37.500
Imodium. And I'm going to start doing that when

00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:41.980
I go to leave. I will have to get that. Do you

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:46.199
have any right now? I will have to get some before

00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.820
we leave. I could drop some off anytime. I'm

00:48:48.820 --> 00:48:52.699
pretty free this week. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's

00:48:52.699 --> 00:48:54.840
like you have no job. Man, I really enjoy this,

00:48:54.940 --> 00:48:57.860
but it's like an anxious feeling too, but I really

00:48:57.860 --> 00:49:02.460
enjoy not having it. You know, when I quit my

00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:05.940
job at FRS, kind of for the same reason, they

00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:09.639
were... upset with me okay so we had a plant

00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.559
manager uh no not plant manager we i was an inventory

00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:17.380
control manager then we had a floor manager um

00:49:17.380 --> 00:49:20.059
and you know every every department has their

00:49:20.059 --> 00:49:23.800
own manager right and the floor manager was getting

00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:26.019
really close with the plant manager and she was

00:49:26.019 --> 00:49:29.360
mad because i wasn't letting her cheat on inventory

00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.699
to get ahead because if she did that it went

00:49:32.699 --> 00:49:36.829
against all of our customers so She was trying

00:49:36.829 --> 00:49:39.409
to push me out and get me fired, and she was

00:49:39.409 --> 00:49:42.829
everything she could find, dude. And I finally,

00:49:42.909 --> 00:49:45.110
I just snapped and quit. Yep, that's, I mean,

00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:47.469
very similar. It's funny that you even mentioned

00:49:47.469 --> 00:49:49.750
the inventory because there were price changes.

00:49:50.590 --> 00:49:53.230
When we do price changes, it's also an inventory

00:49:53.230 --> 00:49:57.750
count on the same pad. So we change the price.

00:49:57.989 --> 00:50:01.110
We also count the inventory. And he was telling

00:50:01.110 --> 00:50:03.420
people to just skip it. as long as there was

00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:05.360
something on the peg to skip it, which fucks

00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.579
our inventory over because it doesn't tell us,

00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.820
well, one, when the district manager goes back

00:50:10.820 --> 00:50:12.679
to see when we changed our inventory, knowing

00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:14.980
that the price changes were already done and

00:50:14.980 --> 00:50:16.760
sees that it hasn't been until from October,

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:20.179
that's an issue. And that falls back on me because

00:50:20.179 --> 00:50:24.280
I enter most of them in. Two, it screws up our

00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.480
inventory, ordering gets delayed, and it's...

00:50:28.809 --> 00:50:32.030
okay not done by the book so not done right and

00:50:32.030 --> 00:50:35.309
he was telling all the people this i i reported

00:50:35.309 --> 00:50:37.050
it because i'm like it's gonna screw us over

00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:39.409
bonus wise it's gonna screw us over in all sorts

00:50:39.409 --> 00:50:42.789
of ways down the road and it's been kind of ever

00:50:42.789 --> 00:50:45.469
since then he's been gunning for me it's like

00:50:45.469 --> 00:50:49.349
yeah sorry yeah i i don't know what it is about

00:50:49.349 --> 00:50:52.510
inventory people just get so freaking butthurt

00:50:52.510 --> 00:50:55.510
about it and the big thing the thing that like

00:50:55.510 --> 00:50:59.199
set uh The floor manager. I keep trying to say

00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:00.860
her name, but I'm not going to air dirty laundry.

00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.800
Though she might be dead, so maybe it's not a

00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:07.119
big deal. Or he. I never was convinced that she

00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:11.300
was the woman. Oh, gosh, yeah. But I found somewhere

00:51:11.300 --> 00:51:16.280
close to like $4 ,200, maybe $5 ,000 worth of

00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:19.980
scrap on the back dock hidden for someone to

00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:23.960
pick up later. Big amounts of money of stuff

00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:25.820
that was just getting pushed out the back door

00:51:25.820 --> 00:51:28.460
into other people's trucks to get scrapped. Yeah.

00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:34.159
So I caught him giving out tools, not renting

00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.400
them, not loaning them, just giving them out

00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.179
to customers and like bring them back whenever

00:51:39.179 --> 00:51:41.500
you're done with them. And it's like, you can't

00:51:41.500 --> 00:51:44.119
do that. We don't rent tools. We don't loan them

00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:47.150
out. There's no safety. net for doing that kind

00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:49.829
of thing. But he was very choosy. He picked out

00:51:49.829 --> 00:51:52.030
old people and then discriminated against other

00:51:52.030 --> 00:51:55.090
people that he didn't, you know, because of whatever

00:51:55.090 --> 00:51:58.010
reason. Or me. Exactly. Because he would let

00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:00.710
me do that. And that's all against the rules.

00:52:01.210 --> 00:52:03.650
Gilroy's does not let anybody do that. And it's

00:52:03.650 --> 00:52:06.690
like, okay, so how long am I going to just sit

00:52:06.690 --> 00:52:10.349
by and let him abuse the system? And it's like,

00:52:10.449 --> 00:52:14.039
I aired it all out. And it wasn't enough for

00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.260
them to hire someone with 20 years in that store.

00:52:16.380 --> 00:52:18.820
And I said, well, if that's how you guys operate,

00:52:19.099 --> 00:52:25.940
then cool. The thing was, you went there just

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.179
as Gilroy has bought the place because it used

00:52:28.179 --> 00:52:33.900
to be True Value. So, yeah. And I don't know

00:52:33.900 --> 00:52:35.739
if they fired or they've quit, but there's been

00:52:35.739 --> 00:52:38.949
some really good employees there that... have

00:52:38.949 --> 00:52:41.909
left and it's like man i just and we get stuck

00:52:41.909 --> 00:52:44.130
with not all the employees you've got now are

00:52:44.130 --> 00:52:47.769
bad there's quite a few good ones but yeah it's

00:52:47.769 --> 00:52:50.750
just some of them yeah well and and when you

00:52:50.750 --> 00:52:55.010
have a small town job that wants to pay minimum

00:52:55.010 --> 00:52:59.929
wage and give you minimum hours um you don't

00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:03.329
attract people who are looking to make careers

00:53:03.329 --> 00:53:07.250
you don't attract right people who want to be

00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:10.449
able to pay their house bill. It's minors and

00:53:10.449 --> 00:53:13.429
retirement. And then the people in between that

00:53:13.429 --> 00:53:17.769
are collecting food stamps that need to be under

00:53:17.769 --> 00:53:19.730
a certain amount of hours so that they could

00:53:19.730 --> 00:53:26.289
continue to mooch. And that is the issue that

00:53:26.289 --> 00:53:28.250
we're having here at the farm because the owner

00:53:28.250 --> 00:53:30.570
is not willing to pay what the job is worth.

00:53:31.389 --> 00:53:36.070
And because of that, I'm only getting, I mean,

00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:38.619
This isn't political or anything. It's just the

00:53:38.619 --> 00:53:41.320
fact of the matter. I'm just getting illegal

00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:46.099
migrants or high schoolers. That's it. That's

00:53:46.099 --> 00:53:51.239
all you will get. Which, exactly. And fortunately,

00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:53.500
they don't care as long as the job gets done

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:58.300
by someone, and you are that someone. And it

00:53:58.300 --> 00:54:01.599
sucks because I'm watching. In my situation,

00:54:01.699 --> 00:54:03.820
I'm watching things go down a path that I'm not

00:54:03.820 --> 00:54:06.500
okay with, but I can't afford to lose my house.

00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.500
And to get a new job, I lose my house. I was

00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:12.380
watching the store go down that path. It's like,

00:54:12.380 --> 00:54:16.599
yeah, in some ways we're improving, but in other

00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.380
ways we're not. And it's like, how long do you

00:54:20.380 --> 00:54:22.780
let, weird thing to say, but how long do you

00:54:22.780 --> 00:54:27.739
let your honor and your integrity fall behind?

00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.480
in a place where you usually hold that stuff

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.360
pretty high in regard and people know you for

00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.900
it. It's like I kind of had to make that decision,

00:54:37.019 --> 00:54:40.760
and I don't regret it. I mean, it is what it

00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:45.900
is. We can afford it for a while. We're not going

00:54:45.900 --> 00:54:50.019
to die, but I don't plan on it. Oh, we totally.

00:54:50.820 --> 00:54:53.519
We would totally die if I left because we'd lose

00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.059
our only source of income and our only house.

00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.969
Yeah, for sure. I've seen jobs that I was scrolling

00:54:59.969 --> 00:55:01.750
by that are pretty high paying, and I was like,

00:55:01.789 --> 00:55:04.170
dude, Alex would be good at this. But then I'm

00:55:04.170 --> 00:55:07.829
like, eh, he can't. But I can't. And the thing

00:55:07.829 --> 00:55:11.989
is, I don't make no money, right? Like, I make

00:55:11.989 --> 00:55:16.070
well over the poverty line just because my house

00:55:16.070 --> 00:55:20.650
is free. Yeah. Yeah. Like, my house alone, like...

00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:22.960
For people that don't know, I have a pretty good

00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.280
-sized house with a lot of land that I can do

00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.679
whatever I want with. And because of that, if

00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:30.539
I were to rent this house, I'd be looking at

00:55:30.539 --> 00:55:34.300
$6 ,000 to $7 ,000 a month. I mean, I was making

00:55:34.300 --> 00:55:37.360
$39 ,000, which is honestly not that great for

00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:42.739
my position. And maybe okay for the area, but,

00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.900
I mean, the 11 -hour shifts, it wasn't worth

00:55:45.900 --> 00:55:48.940
it. I mean, especially being salaried, not hourly.

00:55:51.299 --> 00:55:53.760
Yeah. I just didn't realize you were salary over

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:55.960
there. Yeah, locked salary. So it's not like

00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.139
you can come and go when you want. Do I hear

00:55:59.139 --> 00:56:00.900
a kitten or is that your kitten? Probably enough.

00:56:01.739 --> 00:56:08.059
One of the farm cats had kittens underneath the

00:56:08.059 --> 00:56:10.860
house. Yeah, had kittens underneath the house

00:56:10.860 --> 00:56:15.500
and we can't get back there. So it is a kitten.

00:56:15.780 --> 00:56:19.860
It's under my floor, yeah. Are they cute at least?

00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.579
I can't get back there. I don't know. Oh, you

00:56:22.579 --> 00:56:25.800
haven't even seen them. So. Well, hopefully they're

00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.320
cute. Maybe I'll, no, I don't need another cat.

00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.940
Oh, if you want a cat, there's three really cute

00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:34.239
ones at the Kaukaska Arby's and their alley,

00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:36.260
they're like, they're outside cats, but all the

00:56:36.260 --> 00:56:38.440
customers feed them. So they look like they're

00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:41.079
house cats. They're like, and they're really

00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:45.000
cute. I don't need a cat. Also. I've got two

00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:46.699
of them and they hate each other. Do you want

00:56:46.699 --> 00:56:51.320
a third dog? Listen, I've had so many people

00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.639
ask me if I want a third dog in the last week.

00:56:53.900 --> 00:56:57.000
I cannot afford another dog unless it's an Irish

00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:02.739
Setter. That is the one. Lilo is close. Ed and

00:57:02.739 --> 00:57:06.539
Rebecca are getting rid of Lilo. I know they

00:57:06.539 --> 00:57:09.320
are. We talked about it. They talked to us about

00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:12.340
it too, but with Jasper, the problems that they're

00:57:12.340 --> 00:57:16.059
having with Kai would just be worse with Jasper,

00:57:16.139 --> 00:57:19.900
so it's not going to work out for us. You know,

00:57:19.940 --> 00:57:22.800
I've already got a stud dog who likes to do the

00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.699
herding thing, and I've got a kid that gets nipped

00:57:25.699 --> 00:57:27.800
almost daily. Yeah, you don't need it. So I don't

00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:30.219
need to add another one. And then have that times

00:57:30.219 --> 00:57:32.800
two when you add the two of the dogs together.

00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:36.760
And, well, for me, three. I've got two that do

00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:40.239
it already. Add a third one. Not enough space

00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:43.300
for that. I mean, Lilo's a great dog. It just

00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:49.030
needs a lot of training to get to where. It's

00:57:49.030 --> 00:57:52.989
not a problem anymore. And that's just, Aussies

00:57:52.989 --> 00:57:55.269
are like that, and he's a mini Aussie on top

00:57:55.269 --> 00:57:57.849
of that. They're like that. Mini Aussies are

00:57:57.849 --> 00:58:01.750
almost impossible to deal with with kids. They're

00:58:01.750 --> 00:58:05.570
great dogs, but that's just how they are. It's

00:58:05.570 --> 00:58:08.150
like saying, I'm going to get a Husky as a family

00:58:08.150 --> 00:58:11.150
dog. Huskies are terrible family dogs. The herding

00:58:11.150 --> 00:58:15.210
instinct alone is so strong in a lot of these.

00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.360
that it makes it really hard for young kids,

00:58:18.539 --> 00:58:20.840
especially when you're living in a rural area.

00:58:22.300 --> 00:58:24.960
Yep. Yeah, it's just hard. And then trying to

00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.800
keep them close to you in a rural area. I mean,

00:58:28.820 --> 00:58:33.699
they're wanders. Yeah. Herding dogs usually aren't

00:58:33.699 --> 00:58:36.000
too bad. Huskies are. Huskies like to wander.

00:58:36.219 --> 00:58:38.900
But herding dogs, I mean, they're not too bad.

00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:42.230
Ours do pretty okay. Every once in a while, Mercy

00:58:42.230 --> 00:58:44.090
will get adventurous, but she never actually

00:58:44.090 --> 00:58:46.789
goes anywhere. She just goes in the woods and

00:58:46.789 --> 00:58:51.230
won't come back. She's maybe 500 feet from us,

00:58:51.250 --> 00:58:54.610
but we can't see her, and she's not coming. Akilah's

00:58:54.610 --> 00:58:57.369
like that. He'll be gone for, like, a day chasing

00:58:57.369 --> 00:59:01.130
down a deer trail and scent, and then we'll find

00:59:01.130 --> 00:59:03.070
him, like, on the porch two days later. Like,

00:59:03.170 --> 00:59:07.059
he's an all -white, like, bright white. husky

00:59:07.059 --> 00:59:09.659
mix and we'll find beautiful yeah we'll find

00:59:09.659 --> 00:59:11.800
him two days later or something on our porch

00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:15.219
covered in mud and like you could tell he rolled

00:59:15.219 --> 00:59:19.159
into dead carcass and it's like nah no we're

00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.420
not doing this he's just looking at you baby

00:59:22.420 --> 00:59:25.980
seal face just hey i know i fucked up but i'm

00:59:25.980 --> 00:59:30.559
back he's just an absolutely beautiful dog he

00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.420
would be so great for taking on camping if he

00:59:33.420 --> 00:59:38.409
wasn't so um territory driven like for marking

00:59:38.409 --> 00:59:43.610
he will mark every three seconds on every thing

00:59:43.610 --> 00:59:49.250
that doesn't move wrangler definitely does the

00:59:49.250 --> 00:59:52.369
mark but we've we've got it to a point where

00:59:52.369 --> 00:59:55.610
he mostly just does it away from where we're

00:59:55.610 --> 00:59:58.650
camping Every once in a while, I'll catch him

00:59:58.650 --> 01:00:00.550
doing something stupid, but he's never pissed

01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:04.190
on anyone's tent. Oh, Aquila, he used to be an

01:00:04.190 --> 01:00:06.489
inside dog, but it got to the point where he

01:00:06.489 --> 01:00:09.210
was marking the corner of a couch. Then he would

01:00:09.210 --> 01:00:12.690
mark the wall. Then he would mark the floor.

01:00:12.949 --> 01:00:15.090
It was like anywhere that a scent that he didn't

01:00:15.090 --> 01:00:17.809
like. It was like, dude, we can't do this. Our

01:00:17.809 --> 01:00:19.789
house smells like piss constantly. It was like

01:00:19.789 --> 01:00:25.610
we had to change that. Is he still intact? Yeah.

01:00:27.009 --> 01:00:29.449
Yeah, so it's wrangling. Okay, that's just how

01:00:29.449 --> 01:00:31.190
it works. Yeah, and it was like by the time that

01:00:31.190 --> 01:00:34.469
Sienna came back, he was kind of getting too

01:00:34.469 --> 01:00:38.829
old to snip. And it was like, okay, it's already

01:00:38.829 --> 01:00:42.489
been ingrained. And right now, honestly, he's

01:00:42.489 --> 01:00:44.449
much happier being an outside dog. He didn't

01:00:44.449 --> 01:00:47.949
like being inside anyway. Huskies, with a small

01:00:47.949 --> 01:00:51.650
percentage of wolf in them too, they just don't.

01:00:52.210 --> 01:00:55.250
Hey, don't. Now I got to edit that out. Don't

01:00:55.250 --> 01:00:56.889
say that on the podcast. It's a legal amount.

01:00:58.570 --> 01:01:00.929
No, there's no legal amount in the state of Michigan.

01:01:00.989 --> 01:01:08.309
The legal amount is legal. But they did the DNA

01:01:08.309 --> 01:01:12.909
test on him. They got him from a farm for like

01:01:12.909 --> 01:01:17.289
500 bucks because he was kind of runty. Yeah,

01:01:17.389 --> 01:01:24.800
I had a friend who had... An Akita wolf hybrid.

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:29.820
He was like 60 % wolf or something. Dude stood,

01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.000
like when he stood on his back legs, my buddy

01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.960
was six foot seven. And this dog was taller than

01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:36.739
him when he stood on his back legs. Akitas are

01:01:36.739 --> 01:01:39.420
cool. Massive fucking dog. Akitas are cool on

01:01:39.420 --> 01:01:41.719
their own. I think our sister -in -law has a

01:01:41.719 --> 01:01:46.599
full Akita named Oso. And that thing, two pit

01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:50.579
bulls ran into their backyard and the kid was

01:01:50.579 --> 01:01:54.989
out. She's like four. That Akita, even with the

01:01:54.989 --> 01:01:56.750
owners like shocking them, trying to get them

01:01:56.750 --> 01:01:59.309
to come back, that Akita went and fucked those

01:01:59.309 --> 01:02:01.969
pit bulls up, both of them at the same time.

01:02:02.730 --> 01:02:07.449
Took them down. And that, this thing's big. Like

01:02:07.449 --> 01:02:10.349
I didn't think it would get this big, but. Akitas

01:02:10.349 --> 01:02:13.289
are big dogs. Yeah, and those pit bull, or no,

01:02:13.329 --> 01:02:15.650
they weren't pit bulls. They were, no, yeah,

01:02:15.710 --> 01:02:18.550
sorry, pits. I don't know, like red nose, blue

01:02:18.550 --> 01:02:21.639
nose kind of. I was thinking I was saying bulldogs

01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.320
for a second. But, yeah, he fucked those pit

01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:28.139
bulls up, and the brother -in -law had to go

01:02:28.139 --> 01:02:30.760
and, like, rip him off of them. But they came

01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:32.519
to the yard, and they threatened at his kid,

01:02:32.699 --> 01:02:34.900
and they were both unleashed. And it was like,

01:02:34.940 --> 01:02:39.380
yeah, you know, at that point, you put anyone

01:02:39.380 --> 01:02:43.460
in danger like that, that dog did its job. I

01:02:43.460 --> 01:02:46.400
mean, it protected the family. The kid was fine.

01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:50.250
Nothing happened to her, so. You can't take that

01:02:50.250 --> 01:02:51.969
chance. You can't go, oh, maybe they're friendly.

01:02:52.170 --> 01:02:57.650
You don't have that time window. Right. I had

01:02:57.650 --> 01:03:01.090
a healer pit bull mix when I was in Arizona.

01:03:01.530 --> 01:03:05.829
His name was Away. I don't know how the Mexicans

01:03:05.829 --> 01:03:08.530
say it, but it was Spanish for some dirty word.

01:03:08.570 --> 01:03:12.829
I don't even know. And that's why I ended up

01:03:12.829 --> 01:03:17.190
adopting him was he was out on a walk with his

01:03:17.190 --> 01:03:22.900
previous family. and they had a pit bull and

01:03:22.900 --> 01:03:26.440
something else come at them, and he just tore

01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.119
into them. He ended up killing the pit bull,

01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.420
but they ended up putting like eight grand to

01:03:32.420 --> 01:03:35.099
keep this dog alive, like in surgeries and stuff.

01:03:35.780 --> 01:03:38.239
But he completely demolished, I think it was

01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:41.380
a pit bull and a German Shepherd, like just destroyed

01:03:41.380 --> 01:03:44.940
them. I mean, it sucks, but at the same time,

01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:48.429
they're doing their job. I mean. I mean, pit

01:03:48.429 --> 01:03:50.469
bulls, don't get me wrong. I mean, of course,

01:03:50.469 --> 01:03:52.969
now we're talking about how aggressive pit bulls

01:03:52.969 --> 01:03:57.489
are. When you have the pit bull, it's great.

01:03:58.389 --> 01:04:02.030
When you're not the owner of the pit bull, because

01:04:02.030 --> 01:04:06.250
I've had probably four pit bulls, friends have

01:04:06.250 --> 01:04:10.110
had pit bulls. If you're the family of that dog,

01:04:10.289 --> 01:04:12.989
they're babies. You could do anything to them,

01:04:13.010 --> 01:04:17.159
and they're typically fine. Yeah, I mean. I mean,

01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:19.639
there's always outliers. There's always ones

01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:24.539
that don't. The big problem with pit bulls, and

01:04:24.539 --> 01:04:27.119
it seems to be mostly a pit bull problem. I've

01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:28.719
had a lot of experience with pit bulls. I've

01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.199
had a few. My cousins have had them. All my friends

01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:33.719
have had pit bulls, obviously. They're one of

01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:38.679
the most common dogs in America. But the problem

01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.739
is that pit bulls don't think like a normal dog.

01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.500
Not in the way that a healer does, because a

01:04:45.500 --> 01:04:48.099
healer, doesn't think like a normal dog completely

01:04:48.099 --> 01:04:50.980
differently with a pit bull they they retain

01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:56.619
ptsd so much so let's say you smack the dog one

01:04:56.619 --> 01:04:59.579
time for whatever reason it could wake up in

01:04:59.579 --> 01:05:01.079
the middle of night remember that and attack

01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.500
you like it's not uncommon for a pit bull to

01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:06.059
just fucking lose their mind yeah i mean which

01:05:06.059 --> 01:05:08.559
sucks because they could be the world's greatest

01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.300
dog and then they just snap overnight yeah i've

01:05:11.300 --> 01:05:14.000
i've never had that personal experience but i've

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.530
heard that that can happen where they just snap.

01:05:18.030 --> 01:05:21.789
To me, it's just like there's always that outlier.

01:05:21.949 --> 01:05:24.909
It's like saying all cops are bad. There's obviously

01:05:24.909 --> 01:05:28.190
some bad cops, but generally speaking, they all

01:05:28.190 --> 01:05:32.730
kind of try to do something. No, I agree. I'm

01:05:32.730 --> 01:05:34.750
just saying pit bulls seem to be the one where

01:05:34.750 --> 01:05:36.650
that happens the most with, and it sucks because

01:05:36.650 --> 01:05:39.590
they're great dogs unless that happens, and you're

01:05:39.590 --> 01:05:41.110
not going to know if it's going to happen unless

01:05:41.110 --> 01:05:45.500
it does. We had a blue -nose named Runt. that

01:05:45.500 --> 01:05:49.019
would protect the shit out of you and was protective

01:05:49.019 --> 01:05:51.659
against literally anybody else who wasn't family.

01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:54.659
Like you would have to hold her back. So she

01:05:54.659 --> 01:05:57.320
was that aggressive towards anybody who wasn't

01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:01.639
family. But to her own family, she was a mom.

01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:05.719
Like she was a mama dog. She had pups. And you

01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.579
could pick her pups up. I mean, you could flip

01:06:07.579 --> 01:06:09.960
them around, do this and that. You could lay

01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:13.070
on her. she would be completely fine with you.

01:06:13.130 --> 01:06:15.769
It was just when there is a stranger in the house,

01:06:15.929 --> 01:06:20.090
the stranger wasn't backed into the corner. Runt

01:06:20.090 --> 01:06:22.750
was just sitting there fucking staring. I mean,

01:06:22.750 --> 01:06:27.349
she did not fuck around. My childhood dog was

01:06:27.349 --> 01:06:31.349
a Boxer Lab Mix, and she lived to be, I think

01:06:31.349 --> 01:06:33.869
she was 14 when we had her put down. Greatest

01:06:33.869 --> 01:06:37.150
dog ever, dude. Absolutely best dog. So like

01:06:37.150 --> 01:06:39.829
I said, pits can be the best dogs ever. You know,

01:06:39.849 --> 01:06:42.550
I've had this incident more often in my experience

01:06:42.550 --> 01:06:45.550
with German Shepherds than I have with - Oh,

01:06:45.550 --> 01:06:47.949
they're the same thing. We had a German Shepherd

01:06:47.949 --> 01:06:51.489
when I was living with my buddy, my superintendent

01:06:51.489 --> 01:06:54.550
of my school, just so happened to be my buddy's

01:06:54.550 --> 01:06:57.389
grandfather's friend. He came by, they were going

01:06:57.389 --> 01:07:00.389
to go play golf. Our dog ran through the screen

01:07:00.389 --> 01:07:02.869
and ripped the back pants, like the shorts right

01:07:02.869 --> 01:07:06.929
off the dude's ass. That was number three. That

01:07:06.929 --> 01:07:10.489
was the third time. Never family. It was just,

01:07:10.610 --> 01:07:13.769
it was someone, you know, to him, he was protecting.

01:07:14.889 --> 01:07:17.849
And unfortunately, we had to put him down. But

01:07:17.849 --> 01:07:21.969
he was a great dog to the family. But to anybody

01:07:21.969 --> 01:07:25.130
who was passing by, unfortunately, he didn't

01:07:25.130 --> 01:07:28.230
really give them the time of day. And in a different

01:07:28.230 --> 01:07:30.769
world, in a different circumstance, that's exactly

01:07:30.769 --> 01:07:34.090
what you want, but not in today's world. you

01:07:34.090 --> 01:07:37.769
know yeah i mean you've met you met mercy right

01:07:37.769 --> 01:07:40.110
sweetest dog in the world couldn't hurt a fly

01:07:40.110 --> 01:07:44.230
when we when i first got her if she even heard

01:07:44.230 --> 01:07:47.429
someone speaking spanish she would a switch would

01:07:47.429 --> 01:07:49.590
flip and she'd become the most aggressive dog

01:07:49.590 --> 01:07:53.510
you've ever met yeah yeah the ptsd she tore she

01:07:53.510 --> 01:07:56.809
tore probably three or four like when we moved

01:07:56.809 --> 01:07:58.809
to big rapids we had a guy working on the roof

01:07:58.809 --> 01:08:01.329
and he was i think he was mexican he might have

01:08:01.329 --> 01:08:04.150
been venezuelan though i can't remember But every

01:08:04.150 --> 01:08:06.630
time she saw him, she would go through our screens

01:08:06.630 --> 01:08:10.429
to get to this dude. She had him cornered. She

01:08:10.429 --> 01:08:13.230
took his ladder down after he got on the roof

01:08:13.230 --> 01:08:15.829
one time. And in hindsight, the dude was a piece

01:08:15.829 --> 01:08:19.369
of shit anyway. They can also sense that, too.

01:08:20.670 --> 01:08:24.409
Yeah, but for her, dude, it was Spanish. She

01:08:24.409 --> 01:08:28.210
was even fine with Mexicans until they, if they

01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:31.020
didn't have an accent. Fine. But if they had

01:08:31.020 --> 01:08:33.579
an accent or spoke Spanish, she would lose it.

01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:38.100
Yeah. PTSD. And it took probably three years

01:08:38.100 --> 01:08:41.720
to train that out of me. How was I going to say?

01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:46.760
Oh, Kila. When I first met Kila, he was probably

01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:52.859
the most, I don't know how to say this, non -dominant,

01:08:52.859 --> 01:08:57.560
bitchiest dog I've ever met. It was like. If

01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.579
you yelled at him, it was like he was on his

01:08:59.579 --> 01:09:04.279
back. And he did not get beat. We didn't beat

01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.380
him. And before, he wasn't beat either. And he

01:09:08.380 --> 01:09:10.420
was just very non -dominant. Other dogs would

01:09:10.420 --> 01:09:12.699
come by, and he would get his shit wrecked. For

01:09:12.699 --> 01:09:15.800
his size, I was like, dude, you could do so much.

01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:19.100
I mean, you're bigger than they are. What is

01:09:19.100 --> 01:09:25.279
going on? And after we had Jasper, he leveled

01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:29.859
up. It was like... The day that we came home

01:09:29.859 --> 01:09:33.340
with Jasper, we put Jasper near him, and he licked

01:09:33.340 --> 01:09:37.659
Jasper. You could tell that there was that bond.

01:09:38.060 --> 01:09:42.460
He definitely knew that Jasper was family. And

01:09:42.460 --> 01:09:48.079
he would sit at our door and wait for Jasper.

01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.960
We'd come outside, boom, he's back. And it was

01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:55.539
like, and now... Any animal, like possum raccoon,

01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:58.460
he used to just let them hang out or bark at

01:09:58.460 --> 01:10:01.319
them. Now he fucking rips into animals that come

01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:05.739
into our property. Like, I wasn't expecting it.

01:10:05.819 --> 01:10:08.600
Like, sometimes that protection instinct gets

01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:13.340
triggered. And when we had him, I mean, Jasper

01:10:13.340 --> 01:10:17.380
could kick this dog in the nuts and he wouldn't

01:10:17.380 --> 01:10:21.539
do anything. Like, I have utmost confidence.

01:10:22.220 --> 01:10:24.439
The only thing he might do is like jump on Jasper

01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.699
because he's so excited to see him and lick him

01:10:27.699 --> 01:10:29.859
to death and maybe scratch him because of that.

01:10:29.939 --> 01:10:34.500
But like, otherwise, I mean, crazy how protective

01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:37.060
this dog is. And then when Jasper goes to our

01:10:37.060 --> 01:10:39.239
neighbors, which is Sienna's grandparents' house,

01:10:39.460 --> 01:10:44.560
he'll howl. He only howls when ambulances go

01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.739
by, but he'll howl if Jasper goes somewhere he

01:10:48.739 --> 01:10:53.319
can't get to. with his electric fence so he'll

01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:55.260
sit at the end of his electric fence and howl

01:10:55.260 --> 01:10:58.520
till we come back no matter what we do it's crazy

01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:03.159
it is hey so real quick because i do i gotta

01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:06.140
get off soon to uh go do load out because it's

01:11:06.140 --> 01:11:09.020
one of them nights um i'm sending you a link

01:11:09.020 --> 01:11:10.920
to another set of wheels i just found tell me

01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:25.090
what you think i think they're sick You're muted,

01:11:25.189 --> 01:11:34.449
by the way, buddy or pal. Maybe it is the end.

01:11:34.750 --> 01:11:39.449
How long have I been muted? There he is. You

01:11:39.449 --> 01:11:42.989
said yeah, and then it was muted. Did I say anything

01:11:42.989 --> 01:11:46.750
about the dog and the baby? Yeah, you did. Weird.

01:11:46.829 --> 01:11:50.930
I didn't press mute. Well, I don't know what

01:11:50.930 --> 01:11:52.229
I said and didn't say, so we're going to move

01:11:52.229 --> 01:11:57.159
on. I got the Drive folder, but I didn't... Let's

01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.140
see this. No, that takes me back to the Falcons.

01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.840
I sent it directly to Huckleberry on Matrix.

01:12:06.020 --> 01:12:11.399
Oh, that would be why. Let me check here. Bing,

01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:13.159
bang, boom. I've never heard of the company.

01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:15.640
It's Lock Off Road, whoever that is, but they

01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:27.039
look sick. Oh. Yeah, those are cool. Yeah, they're

01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:32.779
fucking sick. And they seem, from what I'm seeing

01:12:32.779 --> 01:12:34.819
right now, they seem to have good reviews. And

01:12:34.819 --> 01:12:40.800
for $1 ,200? Interesting. Yeah, that ain't bad

01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:44.359
at all. Well, shit. Something to think about

01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:47.779
while you're at Leatherwood, I guess. See if

01:12:47.779 --> 01:12:52.310
anybody else is running them or knows them. Yeah,

01:12:52.369 --> 01:12:54.210
because I got to, when we get back, I got to

01:12:54.210 --> 01:12:56.090
buy wheels and tires pretty quick. Heck yeah.

01:12:57.289 --> 01:13:00.470
Well. It's going to be, I'll probably order wheels

01:13:00.470 --> 01:13:03.569
and then pay them off and then order tires and

01:13:03.569 --> 01:13:06.949
then pay them off and then order the bead locks

01:13:06.949 --> 01:13:09.390
and then pay them off and then have them assembled.

01:13:09.489 --> 01:13:13.869
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. But. Well, shit.

01:13:13.890 --> 01:13:16.470
All right. Look at that. We got an hour and 13

01:13:16.470 --> 01:13:20.489
minutes out of that. Out of a completely bonus,

01:13:20.609 --> 01:13:23.149
unexpected episode. So listeners, enjoy that.

01:13:23.710 --> 01:13:26.250
And on that note, we'll see you after they get

01:13:26.250 --> 01:13:29.930
back from Leatherwood, probably. I think we're

01:13:29.930 --> 01:13:32.210
still going to record one tomorrow. Oh, are we?

01:13:32.270 --> 01:13:36.590
Okay. Yeah, because we still have to do our rap

01:13:36.590 --> 01:13:42.149
and stuff. So this is kind of just a bonus episode,

01:13:42.210 --> 01:13:45.500
I guess. Bing, bang, boom. You're welcome. can't

01:13:45.500 --> 01:13:48.020
complain can't complain but all right talk to

01:13:48.020 --> 01:13:48.920
you later catch you guys later