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listeners, so that's cool. Yeah? Well, outdoors.
Oh, I have some exciting news, and since I haven't
told you... Otherwise, I could just tell you
here. Yeah, I went camping this weekend. That
was cool. Saw an elk. Is that your first time
seeing an elk? Yeah, ever. Yeah, I was fangirling,
dude. It was like 11 -something at night. That
explain why you thought it was a deer? No, no,
I knew it wasn't. I was just fucking with people.
I thought it was the funny caption. It was, you
know, one of those like attention getters. Yeah.
That's not a deer. But no, I was super, super
excited this first time I've seen an elk in person
in the wild. Like I've seen them in like behind
gates and cages and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But
that was really cool. Yeah. Did the whole camping
thing. Let Jasper run around. And one of the
guys that came by. um apparently his company
like i i didn't catch a whole lot on it um but
he offered me two pelican cases because you know
just wanted to know if i wanted them and i took
them for freebies nice they're hard case waterproof
pelican cases and i'll be adding at least one
of them to the roof so it's cool man They're,
like, better quality than the Apache cases, but
I think just got to drill some holes, attach
them on there, and we're good to go. Pelican
cases aren't cheap, man. No. Oh, sorry, listeners.
Yeah, gross. But apparently the company he works
for uses them for whatever reason, and then they
get rid of them. Huh. That was cool. I mean,
got two of those, and then we did some trails,
and holy shit, Gaylord is bad. I mean, we were
in Atlanta, but same kind of area. It was like
every five minutes we were hitting trees, and
we cleared a good amount, but it was like we
weren't there to clear trees. We were there to
do trails, and so we turned around on a lot of
them. I mean, you'd look down 50 yards of trail,
and it's just trees the whole way down the trail.
It's like, no, we're not doing that. We're kind
of trying to relax. So that was fun. And I got
home. Nothing broke. So that's plus. I mean,
you were mostly on dirt roads anyway, right?
Dirt, yeah. Well, yeah, I would say so. But it's
not necessarily that. It's just the drive there,
drive back, nothing broke, and I'm happy. With
it being a derrick event, that's kind of what
I expect. It's just like, yeah, dirt roads. Well,
that one, he didn't even go trail riding. This
was more kid's camp because he ended up getting
there later anyway. So I led the trail, and we
just kind of went on every single trail that
I could find in the area just to explore. Yeah,
it just was tons of trees. Of course, the next
day, Sunday morning, after we left, I was like,
screw it, let's hit a couple trails before we
go back. And then I found a good amount of trails
that were actually passable. So, of course, I
did more driving down trails Sunday than I did
Saturday, really. We did find a random dude in
the middle of nowhere walking on the trail. That's
spooky. Yeah, it was kind of spooky. He looked
like he was out of breath and rolled down my
window, and he's like, hey. And I'm like, hi.
I said, you know, we're just on a trail group.
We're cleaning up some of these trails and just
having a nice summer ride. He goes, that's nice.
I'm kind of back here on the trail, and I'm like,
yeah, okay. Yeah, I see that. You're in the middle
of nowhere, bud. He's like. Yeah, I wouldn't
suppose you have like a tire repair kit or like
a compressor, would you? I was like, boy, are
you lucky. I said, probably every one of us got
one. And then he goes, yeah, I got a hole in
my sidewall. And I said, oh, well, you're probably
not going to be able to repair that then. I said,
I don't have any sidewall repair kits or anything.
You'd have to have a glue tread, which I was
supposed to buy before we went to Kentucky and
didn't. So that's, well, we're just going to
have to be careful. Yeah, we're going to have
to add that to my kit too just to have, especially
after this weekend, the amount of trees and stuff
I drove over. I drove over a lot of trees this
weekend. You just got to remember you have to
replace your glue tread kit once a year. Yeah.
Yeah, so. He started walking the trail, and I'm
like, I'm just going to drive around you and
find the car and see what we could do. So we
got there. It's an old Liberty, Jeep Liberty,
and city tires out in the middle. This trail
was a little rougher because of all the trees
that we were driving over. That was honestly
the worst part of this weekend was just we were
going over a 3 -4, you know. inch trees full
trees at times and it was just like oh might
pop a tire something might happen but other than
that pretty clean and so we got around there
and he's sitting cni gets out kid sleeping she
starts checking over the tire and i'm like oh
cool you got a spare in the back i touch the
spare it's completely empty of air and then uh
she's like oh She goes, yeah, no, it's right
in the middle of the sidewall. There's no fixing
this. So I'm like, okay, so we get the jack off
the back of the truck and get my tools out. Sienna
takes the tire off while I jack it up, and we
switched out his spare, aired his spare up, and
he was good to go. But apparently he had been
there for hours. He had called DNR, and apparently
they said they weren't working on the weekends,
which I think is not true. And then he called.
It kind of is. Yeah, maybe just not like that
in that regard. And then he called 911 apparently,
and they wouldn't even go out there. They had
nothing. Right. So he was just walking down the
trail trying to get back, and we were a few miles,
man. We were out there. And then even where that
lake is that we were camping, there's no residential
houses nearby. It's mostly cabins. So he was
going to be walking for a while, but we got him
fixed up. Yeah, I don't know why people decide
to go out that far without any type of plan.
Well, in retrospect, he said that, and I said,
yeah, that wasn't a very good idea. And he goes,
well, I was trying to get to County Road so -and
-so, and he goes, and Google Maps told me to
go down this way. And I said, well, let me tell
you your first lesson when you're doing any kind
of off -road trail. I said, just don't use Google
Maps. I said, it's going to take you down some
crazy shit, and if you don't know what you're
doing, this kind of stuff happens. And I didn't
say it like that, but it was kind of like trying
to be very nice. Implied. Yeah, implied about
the situation. And, you know, he said, thank
you. Do you want me to pay you? I said, no, of
course not. And, you know, we went on our way,
went down the trail, and then we saw a... a doe
in the middle of the road with a bambi bambi
was just laying in the road probably not even
had to have been a couple weeks a couple days
old probably like legs were still shaking almost
a little wobbly so like if you were to go pick
it up one hand or two oh that's a one -hander
i could have took it yeah that's a couple days
old a couple days old for sure yeah so it was
sitting in the middle of the road i stopped And
I was like, dude, look at this. And he sat literally,
he got up, sat on the shoulder of the road and
just laid down in the grass. That's what they
do. I pulled up and I was like, hey, Bambi. And
then it tried to get up and start running. I'm
like, dude, I'm faster than you. I could catch
you if I wanted. Did I tell you about the one,
I think it was two years ago? The whole time
I'm doing chores at the farm, I've got this little
baby deer following me around, and he's just
a screaming man. He wouldn't leave me alone,
wouldn't go anywhere, was rubbing up against
me, just would not leave me alone. And so my
neighbor braves through the tall grass between
our properties, and he's like, yeah, his mom
got hit last night. We couldn't find him after
she got hit. But we were out looking for a couple
hours. So I called a rehab place for him and
told them the story. And then they couldn't take
him for like four or five hours while they got
a box ready for him. So for five hours, I just
had this little baby deer chilling on my couch
with my dogs, eating snacks and stuff. Man, that
would have been such a cool dog. And you could
take it out camping with you. That would have
been so cool. Oh, my God. Hey, this is Fawn.
And then you just open the back door and this
giant deer jumps out. That would have been so
cool. He was super sweet, though. It was fun.
Yeah, it was cool seeing the little Bambi. Saw
some cool wildlife. There was a whole family
of loons on the lake, so we got to hear that
all night. Heard some barn owls, some coyotes.
Did you get to hear some elk bugles? No elk bugles.
The first night I thought it might have been
an elk bugle, not like a male or maybe a female
because I haven't heard what they sound like.
Turned out it was just a loon and a weird loon
call at that. Because I looked up female elk
bugle or elk calls and it was horrible. It's
like trees scratching together. It was not. Not
good, so. So we'll have to, well, I guess it
doesn't work the same on cars. So the Pigeon
River area, you can ride your horse right between
the elk herds. Like, they don't give a damn.
Oh, yeah, probably. You just stay quiet and just
ride your horse through, and as long as you're
on the horse, they don't care about you. That
was my first time in that area. It was really
cool, dude, that Atlanta. pigeon river area they
have like uh i was out we were out by like elk
scenic areas like elk lookouts and they have
on the trails if you just you're just driving
all of a sudden you come into like this field
of like dnr planted bluegrass or rye or something
super cool but um once we went down the road
a little bit man the trails were just everywhere
you know it's like being up by um that Manton
Cadillac area where they just trails everywhere.
So I'd like to go back there, do some camping
and, and just take a day or two to do up and
go do trails. See what there is. Yeah. We used
to on horses, not cars, obviously, but we do
like 12 to 15 hour rides up there. Yeah. Yeah.
We did probably, we only did about four hours
left at probably 12, got done on like four or
five. There's nothing really, I mean, I think
what turned us off the most was just having to
turn around so many damn times. I mean, if it
was a work weekend. Four hours in a car is pretty
close to 15 hours on horseback in distance traveled.
Yeah, I recorded that trail ride. It was 27 miles
that we had traveled totally on Onyx. uh i mean
like i said it was fun it was absolutely gorgeous
out that day um saturday so that was really nice
the kids slept the whole time and he had a ball
so all in all really good weekend i didn't do
as much uh didn't do as much trail riding as
i i wanted to to be honest but it was more about
the kid at that point um truck worked fine um
i did those uh those not the clevest points in
the front the the shackles those hard shackles
those were jangling around like crazy so i put
some electrical tape around them just to kind
of quiet them down a little bit because i thought
something was breaking on my truck it was scary
so yeah i uh man now you got me thinking about
horses i've actually been thinking about i haven't
ridden in probably two years just because i'm
fat and lazy now but I've been really thinking
with as much time as me and dad haven't been
spending together, I want to get him to start
riding again and get the horses out and get them
ready. And I want to do a true cowboy camp for
like a week where we camp in one site, get on,
ride all day, set up camp, camp for a night,
tear camp down, ride all day. Ton of fun. The
OG overland experience. Hell yeah, man. Yeah.
Throw my light fighter tent on the back of the
horse with my army sleeping bag so I can look
like a real guy. Yep, I'll have my Nemo dagger.
It'd be cool if I had... I really want to get
a bedroll. Do you know how expensive fucking
bedrolls are? Yeah, we talked about this on a
previous podcast. We mentioned... We might have.
Yeah, an Australian maker that have been doing
it for like ever. Oh, that's a swag. It's similar
but slightly different. They're basically the
same thing. But, yeah, like a bedroll, I found
there's one on Marketplace right now for $400.
I mean, isn't it just essentially like a blanket
wax canvas? I mean. It's basically a canvas bag
that holds your bedding and rolls up. Yeah. With
a small mattress in it sometimes. For like, here's
one from Browning and I'll link this in the show
notes for any listeners that think this stuff
sounds fun. But this one from Browning is like
two 90 something. Yeah. Well, 300 basically.
Oh yeah. That's pretty cool. It's got a, yeah,
it's got an inflatable mattress, a sleeping bag,
everything all included. I don't know. Bedrolls
are cool. They're cool. I want to do some bedroll
camping, but I also don't really want to do some
bedroll camping. This weekend was cold. There's
something romantic about the idea of bedroll
camping, but every time I think about actually
bedroll camping, I wimp out. No, I don't blame
you. This weekend was cold enough that if I had
a bedroll, I would have sat by the fire. It was...
I mean, that's what... I know. That's what I'm
saying, though, is I would have been right there.
Yeah. It got down into the 30s. Honestly, we
did fine. It was just an uncomfortable thing.
It was like when your face is out of the tent,
like exposed to the air, it's pretty uncomfortable.
But also, bedrolls on average are significantly
warmer than a tent would be. So there is that.
Just the amount of heat that you keep just being
next to the fire, just how much warmer it is.
I mean, there was definitely no shortage of firewood
this weekend up there. The canvas from a bedroll
retains heat better than, say, your Nemo or a
standard tent would. So if you've got some type
of thermal pad in the bottom of your bedroll,
they're going to be significantly warmer than
a tent. Yeah, I know. It would be nice. Do some
pork and beans. Some Tex -Mex chili or something.
I don't know. But I'm also not going to spend
the cost of a bedroll for, like, what I'd probably
use one weekend. Yeah. We'll do that for the...
When we do tractor overlanding in the future.
Yeah. Moverlanding. That would actually be like
the place to use a bedroll would be moverlanding.
I mean, a trailer probably wouldn't kill you,
but it's like, why? Kind of the point of moverlanding
is to have everything on your mower. That would
be fun. I would love to do that at some point
when I have a good stable job environment. LOL.
Yeah, LOL. In other news, I quit today, so I'm
unemployed for the next week probably until I
find something else. Yeah, and how did I find
out? It wasn't from Gavin. Oh, no, it's from
his workers. Tell Gavin we already miss him.
Aw, that's so sweet. Yeah. Tell the boss to fuck
off. Yeah. He got what he deserved. Plot an asshole.
Did he? No, he didn't. But... Oh. You know, at
some point you have to start weighing it. Like,
I come back into service and all I get is notifications
about how he's being a D -bag. It's like, all
right, I'm done. I don't need this. So... I'm
the bigger and better. I've been filling out
applications all day today. I have had two job
offers that I'm holding off on. One's from Alex.
Oh, okay. The other is a let me talk to them
and see if they can do something kind of offer.
And that one might not be too bad. I think Mike
Horton and Muskegon is one of those. I guess
they hire a bunch of people for, like, CDLs,
and they just pass that window, and he's going
to see if they can maybe do something. Otherwise,
I'm looking around, trying to find something,
but I'm oddly happy. You could come pick up dead
turkeys. Man, if you guys paid me enough, I probably
would. They don't. But. They pay you enough for
you to have a job while you look, and it's always
easier to find a job when you have a job. Don't
ask me why. It's just the truth. Almost, yeah.
I think sometimes it's like the energy that I
take to look. It's almost like when you get home,
it's like you don't have it. I don't know what
the shifts are over there. I know they're bad
for you, but I don't know how they are for your
hands. No, they work. Between like five and eight
hours a day, maybe. Yeah. That's like a half
day. Yeah, it's like schedule your own schedule
kind of thing, so. Hmm, okay. Interesting. We'll
have to talk off air and talk about pay and stuff
because maybe that would be something I'd do
just to have something. Although I hate working
in that condition, I'll put up with it. I mean,
most of what I'd have you do really is yard work.
Yard work? Like picking. Like mow the lawn. I
like mowing lawns. Weed whacking. I like weed
whacking. Spraying weeds with weed killer. I
like doing that. Can I do it from a mower? Do
a drive -by? Side by side. I sit on the driver's
seat of my side -by -side with a sprayer in my
hand and spray all the weeds that he killed.
I mean, I don't know how a hand could not do
well at that. That's all, like, fun stuff. I
mean, that's summertime handwork. Usually it's
a lot more involved than that, but for you, that's
all I'd probably have you do because I know you're
not going to stick around. So I wouldn't take
the time to teach you the bird stuff. What a
sweetie pie. Yeah. And if you're able to do that,
that gives me lots of time to take care of the
birds. Yeah. Well, I could definitely do that.
Yeah, we'll be in contact. I'll talk to my boss
a little bit. Yeah, we'll be in contact. I think
I know how to get a hold of you, where to find
you. Maybe. It's almost like we talk once a week
or something. It's kind of sad that we live five
minutes away and it's still once a week. I mean,
it's more than that, but I got to come around
more. I mean, we talk on the group chat all the
time. I got to come around more. It was because
of work. Now I'm free. Dude, Facebook's cracking
me up because it recommended Sean from StoryTel
now as a friend this morning. Yeah, you saw that
group chat. And then it just recommended, I don't
even know who this is, but I know that they work
with XOverland. We have like two mutual friends.
Like for whatever reason, Facebook's like, yo,
all these people. Connect, please. And it's like,
yeah, but like. I'm not at their level, and they
don't know me. That's okay. Oh, you know what?
If I had more moolah saved, I would come and
just be a videographer for you at Leatherwood.
Oh, yeah. I was just thinking about that this
morning. I'm like, now I could go to Leatherwood.
I was like, I would have to ride with Alex. I'm
doing pretty much the whole trip financed. Yeah.
Like, it's terrible. Yeah, I can't do that. Especially
without a job. It kind of puts us into the negative.
But if I was thinking about it, definitely thinking
about doing, like, a ride -along or something
with one of the free passenger seats, if anybody
had any. I mean. We could always stick Wrangler
in Mark's truck, which would free up a spot in
my truck. True. Because right now I got two dogs
filling the back of my truck. Yeah, I was just
kind of thinking it would be cool to be able
to get this stuff on video and have someone.
If I'm not driving, I'm dedicated to that. Yeah,
I know Alan's going to do some videoing. I'll
probably end up doing some videoing. At least
real stuff. That's, you know, we don't do the
whole YouTube thing that much. And we probably
should. I think the reason we don't is because
we don't have the chance, if that makes sense.
I don't know. I'm not really. To do well on YouTube
in this space, you really have to be able to
set up shots perfectly and get these big, beautiful
sweeping shots. And along with that, be able
to edit very, very well. And then along with
that, also have a good narration. Very true.
I think we have a pretty good narration. I think
we're okay at storytelling, but we're really
bad. Not really bad. We're bad at long -form
video. Yep. You know, reels, we can make funny,
interesting reels all day long. And we do. We
make some really fun ones. But I'm willing to
admit that the long -form YouTube -type content
is not for me. You know what? I think couldn't
we get better equipment for that, camera equipment,
easier to work with? Like, for instance... Like
the DJI drones, a lot of people now are using
those as most of their long -form YouTube capturing
equipment on the trail, off the trail, scenic.
And something like that would really enhance
the quality of what we could produce. Now, then
comes the next thing with editing video, right?
When I edit a podcast, let's say we do an hour
-long podcast, I might spend... 45 minutes to
two hours editing that, depending on how bad
or muddled the audio is, right? And I don't cut
out a lot. We do, I call it almost live to air,
where pretty much everything that we capture
is what gets posted, right? Now, with video,
it's every 10 minutes of video is an hour and
a half to two hours of editing. Lots of chopping.
So, not only do I not quite have the skill...
I do, actually. I'm not a bad video editor. I've
done it for most of my life. But I don't have
the patience to sit here and edit a video when
I could be, you know, wrenching on my truck or,
you know, at work making money. Yeah, that's
the thing. It's just... Because you're not getting
paid for it. And we're still working full -time
jobs on top of this. So it's really hard to justify
doing all that work for something for, and for
something for honestly, no money. No, I mean,
we're not getting a tons of views. We're not
cranking out and getting monetization. So yeah,
that's kind of the path to get there, but it's
a lot of work to get there while we're already
doing full -time jobs. Right. And honestly, I'm
not looking for it. Like anyone listening, if
someone wants to partner with us, that'd be awesome.
But I'm not like out searching for partners.
I think that what we put out is a fun show that's
got no ads. If you want to give us a little bit
of boost or kickback, go ahead. You know, we've
got value for value stuff set up. I need to set
up PayPal. I keep talking about it and then not
doing it. But if you want to do the value for
value thing, we're good with that. But really.
I enjoy just sitting and shooting the shit and
spending a little bit of time editing it, and
that's it. I'm not looking for money out of this.
I would love for it to be a full -time thing,
but I'm not overly pushing it either. You know
what I mean? Like, man, would this be fun to
do full -time? Oh, yeah. If we had started the
podcast, say, 2018. 2019 maybe 2017 to 2019 somewhere
in there we could easily be doing this full -time
by now but in the the space that podcasting is
today it's just it's not possible you know you
could if you go Spotify only. Spotify owns the
rights to everything and pays you pennies on
the dollar. If you go Apple podcast only, which
that's where all the listeners are, is Spotify
and Apple podcast. And if you go either one of
those, you could have a huge show and make pennies.
It just, it doesn't matter. Podcasting is, I'm
not going to say it's dead because there's still
people listening, but monetized podcasting, it's
honestly kind of dead. Yeah, I mean, you got
to be. Big, big for it to even matter. And even
then, it's small checks throughout all the platforms
that make up one big one. On Spotify, you have
to have 10 ,000 downloads per episode before
they start paying you. We're getting close. Yeah,
you know, 30. Lately, it's been like 20, but
that's because we're only doing an episode a
week. When we were doing two episodes a week,
I mean, we were getting pretty regular. You're
hitting high 30s, mid 40s, somewhere in there.
Which isn't bad for us. We'll get back to that.
Excuse me. We'll get back to it. It just... Right
now, we are all so freaking... Well, you're not
so freaking busy anymore. Not anymore. I could
just bullshit and drop episodes. I don't know.
I could talk about... The birds and the bees.
I could talk about Sasquatch vlogs. My new favorite.
I've got... Actually, I was going to talk to
you about this. Now that you aren't doing anything,
and maybe even work this in, I don't know if
you've taken the time to look at Outskirts Overland
at all. Not yet, actually. That was after this.
I was going to put that on while I was job hunting.
Again, his audio quality fucking abysmal, but
the content he puts out is fantastic. If his
audio isn't cutting in and out the whole time,
he's given me an idea though. I think I want
to start doing, it'll be a separate channel from
this one, but like a 15 minutes every day, just
daily vlog style podcast. and something like
that for like you, and I'm not saying, not necessarily
vlog style, but like you just come up with a
off -road or overland topic that you can talk
about for 15 minutes and just do it every day.
Not a bad idea. You know, you really enjoy recording,
and if you were to do that, putting out that
much content, you're going to get bigger. Yeah,
that's not a bad idea. As much as you bug me
to record when we're not scheduled to, it'd be
good for you, man. Yeah. I think you'd love it.
I do enjoy this. If I had, if I was paid to do
this, I would enjoy it that much more. I think
it's just, and it's when I get home from work,
you know, working, you do your 11 hours and then
you get home, you're already tired. You have
kids and all that to deal with. Yep. If I could
come in, you know, start work at 8. work for
five or so hours to edit and do this and that,
record, whatever. Oh, yeah. I'd be all down for
that. You know, manage the marketing and the
media aspect. Yep. And if you're doing daily
stuff, there's almost no editing. Just take what
you recorded and air it. Yeah, that's a good
idea. That's the beauty of it. That's a very
good idea. If you want to do that, don't forget
that I also pay monthly for element .fm. It's
$5 a month, and we can have as many shows as
we want over there. Yeah, we'll have to talk
about that because I don't quite understand that
stuff. So we'll have to go over that a little
bit. I'd like to start shifting us over to element
.fm, but I'm also not at a point where... I'm
ready to do that because then subscribers have
to change where they get our show from. And it's
just, to me, it's hard to, if Element had been
out when we actually started, it would have been
fine. Yeah, we're pretty well established now.
Exactly. To change now, it just wouldn't work.
Oh, you know, that reminds me. Did you make a,
whoa, what is all this? Is that you? Oh, it just
said new audio, this and that detected. It was
weird. But anyway, did you guys make a decision
on the tires yet, which you're thinking of switching
to? Have you made that? Yeah, yeah. We haven't
picked wheels yet. We've got a few options that
are on the table. But tires, we're going to go
with some Gladiator X -Comps. X -Comps. All right,
cool. I didn't know if you guys made that decision.
Yeah, they're just a decent off -road or all
-terrain. We've ran, like, my siblings both,
well, my youngest sibling just traded her JK
in on a Bronco Badlands. So she doesn't have
the XCOMs anymore. But they both had XCOMs. They're
great. For what they are, they're great. It's
like $800 for a set of four 35s. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I will say that I'm very impressed so far
with the Wild Peaks performance just in general
from what I've had. So I'm going to be sticking
with those for a while. I might go to the RTs
at some point. Ken does try those or the Baja
Bosses at some point. Baja bosses are great,
but they're really expensive for what they are.
Oh, you know what? Let's switch topic again real
quick. Let's keep it moving. Oh, I just sent
you the wheels that we're looking at. I like
those. I think I'm just going to buy your old
wheels from you. Yeah, they'll be there. Oh,
pod lighting. Those lights that we set up on
the side of the roof rack? Not only were great
to help keep visuals on the wolf box while driving
on the back and the front, but also when I got
into camp, we rotated all those lights out. I
mean, amazing area lighting. We just had that
set up. Now it attracted the bugs like crazy,
but it was away from us. So we set the tent up
with that area lighting only. and we got to camp
at like 12, so it was perfect. So I'm super happy
with how we had those set up. You know, it sucks
that they're bolted on, so the more you move
them, the more you have to tighten them, but
that's really kind of inconsequential. Like it
takes a second, grab the 10 mil, tighten them
up, you're done. So super, super excited about
how that worked out. Maybe we could come up with
some kind of pivot for those. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
Yeah. That did work out very well. Also solidified
this weekend, I solidified my I'm getting a pop
-up pooper. And probably a shower. Yeah. Well,
that can be all one and the same. No, like the
showerhead. Oh. Yeah. You can have mine. Mine's
pretty great. I might take you up on that. We
just don't use it. Because I - Yeah, we just
don't use it. I was going for the geyser. And
then there's a company, I think it's called Flex
something. Flextail. They make a lot of inflate
products for hiking. They have one that looks
like it works really well. And it's just, I mean,
it's an electric pump that goes down into a bucket.
Yeah, I remember that. But the price difference
is so good. And honestly, I can heat the water
up on the stove. I'm trying to think of, if I
get the geyser, it's a lot of extra space. I
could hide it behind next to my water tank, which
worked great this weekend. But I think I'm just
going to go with that. It's smaller, more compact.
We actually ran into a case this weekend where
it would have been really nice. Jasper had a
dirty diaper, and instead of sitting still while
we were changing him, he decided to run like
20 yards and all down his leg, all over his butt.
Look, he had a blast this weekend, but when he
did that, it was like a 10 -minute wiping bath.
Then lots of hand sanitizer, and it's just, it
was like, you know what? We need the shower.
Yeah, I got mine for our first trip because after,
like, three days, you just kind of want to rinse
off a little bit. Like, I'm not talking a full
-blown shower, but, like. Yep. I got to clean
my junk every day and I can only clean it four
days with a baby wipe before it's like, all right.
I mean, I will say that I was using dude wipes
and those types like Duke makes them. They're
like large paper, wetted paper towels. Yeah.
And those work pretty well to keep you in a base
clean, but they don't refresh you and that doesn't
do much for your hair. Exactly. So. Um, you know,
my dude wipes, dude wipes are okay, but honestly,
price to usage wise, baby wipes. I mean, you
could buy a hundred baby wipes for a couple bucks.
I mean, we used to, when I was in the field,
cause I used to, when I was in the army, uh,
we were in the field at least one week every
month. And literally I would go buy like. the
big bulk baby wipe with like 1500 wipes in it
from like Sam's club or something or Costco.
And I just put it in my closet and grab a hundred
for every field exercise. I mean, it's, it just,
and it'd be like 20 bucks. Like it was cheap
and cheap. That's a good way to, that's a good
way to go around all the, the dude wipe thing
is to do that. And, you know, if you are worried
about space and stuff, just take like a hundred.
Or 50 out of the pack, throw it in a small Ziploc
baggie and throw it in your backpack or whatever.
But they're not that big. Like I said, I used
to take it to the field when all I could take
was a rucksack. And honestly, even civilian -wise,
we don't need near as much stuff. And you can
fit. We do. We don't do the comfort thing as
much as you do, I guess. But, like, me and Mark,
we can fit pretty much an entire week's worth
of stuff in a really small compartment. I've
got all of mine and Kaylin's clothes packed for
five days' worth, right? And they all fit inside
of one of those little half -packout bags. Yeah.
That, man, really restricting your clothing helps
a lot, too. We ended up having more space on
our way back because I kind of organized as I
put stuff away. And organization's really the
key to effectiveness when you're doing that stuff.
A lot of people, I got a lot of compliments this
weekend about how organized I was and how efficient
the whole back of the FJ was. And I was like,
oh, it's kind of nice to see some appreciation
for something I've worked pretty hard to do.
Made a post on. fj nation or whatever and people
are like oh my god how do you set up the drawers
how do you mount them i'm like it's such a tight
fit i don't even have to screw these things down
like they don't go anywhere no the the back of
your fj is really efficient you have packed so
much Okay, don't take this offensively. So much
shit in such a small space. Like, it's crazy.
I'm excited about it, man. My favorite part about
this weekend was the on -demand water. Oh, my
gosh, that was so nice. I literally just moved
the faucet to where I needed it, washing hands,
washing out the pan. I just pick up the faucet,
put it on the pan to help clean it. Really nice.
I need to do some research. But I've been thinking
about picking up a fuel tank from, like, not
a used fuel tank, obviously, but, like, a new
fuel tank off Marketplace or Amazon or something,
mounting it under the trailer for water. Like,
bulk water. Think about it. Let's say I fit 10
gallons in there. Yeah, we did well this weekend.
I don't know what I'm down to. I should check,
but I used it pretty... I didn't use it conservatively,
so I can't really say that, but I used it as
much as I could and we didn't go through any,
you know, all of it. That's for sure. So I, I
think it was a pretty good way to go. Yeah. I'm
going to do like, I've talked about this in the
past. I'm going to convert a pack out into a
water storage and then. That'll be it. I'll just
do that with a pump kind of like the one you've
got and have like two different hose hookups
for it. I think my biggest issue was garbage
storage. Like I need to find a way to reduce
the amount of garbage I put out other than burning
things that shouldn't be burned in the fire.
Like obviously I threw all the paper stuff away,
but it was like, I came out with one full garbage
bag and I was like, man, this is more than it
should be for three days. That's definitely something
I've been looking at a lot lately. One of the
things that I found is we picked up these reusable
Ziploc bags off Amazon. I think it was $20 for
like 50 of them. And that cuts down on my waste
so much. Yeah. That's the big one. Another one
for me, when I'm buying, I try to primarily focus
on buying boxed items. So we bought Pop -Tarts,
Rice Krispies for snacks, any kind of boxed item,
non -plastic, so that we could use it for Firestarter
and stuff, the box. And then we would just condense
it into one box, throw all the snacks into one.
And what I would do there is I would take those
Pop -Tarts, because I like to have less trash.
in the field i don't mind the trash generation
like i'm not trying to be like conservative on
that but i don't like to deal with it when i'm
out there so i would almost take those pop tarts
out put them in a reusable zip bag and then put
them back in the box that would that would not
be bad um the the wrappers weren't they didn't
take up a lot of space so that wasn't like a
huge thing but it's a good idea um i think mainly
it was like cans Like we weren't crushing cans.
We probably should have crushed some cans. Diapers.
You can't do much about diapers out there. Yeah,
you can't get away from diapers. You can't throw
them in a fire. You can't throw them in the woods.
You got to pack them out. Same thing with our
refuse. I mean, unless you were digging holes
and we could. I've kind of helped with that one
there. Don't dig holes. Burying your poop is
not good. It's not good for the environment.
Let's say 50 people park in the same spot. Those
50 people all poop in the same spot. That's going
to poison the earth. That's just how it works.
But what you could do is I should have sent some
of that poo powder with you. I kind of feel bad
now. Well, so what I ended up doing is we went
to Walmart and we got the cheapest all natural
biodegradable kitty litter. And we used kitty
litter, and then that absorbed most of the refuse,
and then we put them in scented trash bags, and
you couldn't smell it. I mean, so we had regular
plastic, like, office trash bags for the toilet
with the kitty litter in there. I would just
grab a handful, throw it in there, and then...
I would bag those up nice and tight and throw
them into a Febreze bag or whatever, and we didn't
smell anything. It's just still too close to
camp. I would double up trash bags and then use
my poop powder, which the poop powder neutralizes
as best as it can the smell of the poop and then
turns the liquid into a gel. That way it's not
leaking. So I would do that, and you could get
two -ish. bathroom times out of one bag that
way two to three um that luckily we were all
we were all guys so no one was pissing you know
they were all shitting in there not pissing in
there i uh so uh here's here's a crazy crazy
crazy but useful for me tip take a modium the
day before or right before you start on your
trip. I kid you not, we had Arby's on the way
up and I pooped probably four times within five
hours after getting to camp. Wow. I took the
Imodium between like third and fourth poop and
didn't poop the rest of the weekend. And it wasn't
uncomfortable either. Like it just stopped it,
whatever was going on. Then on Sunday, I felt
that urge, and we ended up stopping at a rest
stop. And, you know, yeah, it's an extra 20 minutes
because it takes a second for everything to start
moving again. But that's been the problem solver
to my issues because I have some, like, anxious
bowel issues and stuff like that. So it's like
that has been a lifesaver for me, taking the
Imodium. And I'm going to start doing that when
I go to leave. I will have to get that. Do you
have any right now? I will have to get some before
we leave. I could drop some off anytime. I'm
pretty free this week. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's
like you have no job. Man, I really enjoy this,
but it's like an anxious feeling too, but I really
enjoy not having it. You know, when I quit my
job at FRS, kind of for the same reason, they
were... upset with me okay so we had a plant
manager uh no not plant manager we i was an inventory
control manager then we had a floor manager um
and you know every every department has their
own manager right and the floor manager was getting
really close with the plant manager and she was
mad because i wasn't letting her cheat on inventory
to get ahead because if she did that it went
against all of our customers so She was trying
to push me out and get me fired, and she was
everything she could find, dude. And I finally,
I just snapped and quit. Yep, that's, I mean,
very similar. It's funny that you even mentioned
the inventory because there were price changes.
When we do price changes, it's also an inventory
count on the same pad. So we change the price.
We also count the inventory. And he was telling
people to just skip it. as long as there was
something on the peg to skip it, which fucks
our inventory over because it doesn't tell us,
well, one, when the district manager goes back
to see when we changed our inventory, knowing
that the price changes were already done and
sees that it hasn't been until from October,
that's an issue. And that falls back on me because
I enter most of them in. Two, it screws up our
inventory, ordering gets delayed, and it's...
okay not done by the book so not done right and
he was telling all the people this i i reported
it because i'm like it's gonna screw us over
bonus wise it's gonna screw us over in all sorts
of ways down the road and it's been kind of ever
since then he's been gunning for me it's like
yeah sorry yeah i i don't know what it is about
inventory people just get so freaking butthurt
about it and the big thing the thing that like
set uh The floor manager. I keep trying to say
her name, but I'm not going to air dirty laundry.
Though she might be dead, so maybe it's not a
big deal. Or he. I never was convinced that she
was the woman. Oh, gosh, yeah. But I found somewhere
close to like $4 ,200, maybe $5 ,000 worth of
scrap on the back dock hidden for someone to
pick up later. Big amounts of money of stuff
that was just getting pushed out the back door
into other people's trucks to get scrapped. Yeah.
So I caught him giving out tools, not renting
them, not loaning them, just giving them out
to customers and like bring them back whenever
you're done with them. And it's like, you can't
do that. We don't rent tools. We don't loan them
out. There's no safety. net for doing that kind
of thing. But he was very choosy. He picked out
old people and then discriminated against other
people that he didn't, you know, because of whatever
reason. Or me. Exactly. Because he would let
me do that. And that's all against the rules.
Gilroy's does not let anybody do that. And it's
like, okay, so how long am I going to just sit
by and let him abuse the system? And it's like,
I aired it all out. And it wasn't enough for
them to hire someone with 20 years in that store.
And I said, well, if that's how you guys operate,
then cool. The thing was, you went there just
as Gilroy has bought the place because it used
to be True Value. So, yeah. And I don't know
if they fired or they've quit, but there's been
some really good employees there that... have
left and it's like man i just and we get stuck
with not all the employees you've got now are
bad there's quite a few good ones but yeah it's
just some of them yeah well and and when you
have a small town job that wants to pay minimum
wage and give you minimum hours um you don't
attract people who are looking to make careers
you don't attract right people who want to be
able to pay their house bill. It's minors and
retirement. And then the people in between that
are collecting food stamps that need to be under
a certain amount of hours so that they could
continue to mooch. And that is the issue that
we're having here at the farm because the owner
is not willing to pay what the job is worth.
And because of that, I'm only getting, I mean,
This isn't political or anything. It's just the
fact of the matter. I'm just getting illegal
migrants or high schoolers. That's it. That's
all you will get. Which, exactly. And fortunately,
they don't care as long as the job gets done
by someone, and you are that someone. And it
sucks because I'm watching. In my situation,
I'm watching things go down a path that I'm not
okay with, but I can't afford to lose my house.
And to get a new job, I lose my house. I was
watching the store go down that path. It's like,
yeah, in some ways we're improving, but in other
ways we're not. And it's like, how long do you
let, weird thing to say, but how long do you
let your honor and your integrity fall behind?
in a place where you usually hold that stuff
pretty high in regard and people know you for
it. It's like I kind of had to make that decision,
and I don't regret it. I mean, it is what it
is. We can afford it for a while. We're not going
to die, but I don't plan on it. Oh, we totally.
We would totally die if I left because we'd lose
our only source of income and our only house.
Yeah, for sure. I've seen jobs that I was scrolling
by that are pretty high paying, and I was like,
dude, Alex would be good at this. But then I'm
like, eh, he can't. But I can't. And the thing
is, I don't make no money, right? Like, I make
well over the poverty line just because my house
is free. Yeah. Yeah. Like, my house alone, like...
For people that don't know, I have a pretty good
-sized house with a lot of land that I can do
whatever I want with. And because of that, if
I were to rent this house, I'd be looking at
$6 ,000 to $7 ,000 a month. I mean, I was making
$39 ,000, which is honestly not that great for
my position. And maybe okay for the area, but,
I mean, the 11 -hour shifts, it wasn't worth
it. I mean, especially being salaried, not hourly.
Yeah. I just didn't realize you were salary over
there. Yeah, locked salary. So it's not like
you can come and go when you want. Do I hear
a kitten or is that your kitten? Probably enough.
One of the farm cats had kittens underneath the
house. Yeah, had kittens underneath the house
and we can't get back there. So it is a kitten.
It's under my floor, yeah. Are they cute at least?
I can't get back there. I don't know. Oh, you
haven't even seen them. So. Well, hopefully they're
cute. Maybe I'll, no, I don't need another cat.
Oh, if you want a cat, there's three really cute
ones at the Kaukaska Arby's and their alley,
they're like, they're outside cats, but all the
customers feed them. So they look like they're
house cats. They're like, and they're really
cute. I don't need a cat. Also. I've got two
of them and they hate each other. Do you want
a third dog? Listen, I've had so many people
ask me if I want a third dog in the last week.
I cannot afford another dog unless it's an Irish
Setter. That is the one. Lilo is close. Ed and
Rebecca are getting rid of Lilo. I know they
are. We talked about it. They talked to us about
it too, but with Jasper, the problems that they're
having with Kai would just be worse with Jasper,
so it's not going to work out for us. You know,
I've already got a stud dog who likes to do the
herding thing, and I've got a kid that gets nipped
almost daily. Yeah, you don't need it. So I don't
need to add another one. And then have that times
two when you add the two of the dogs together.
And, well, for me, three. I've got two that do
it already. Add a third one. Not enough space
for that. I mean, Lilo's a great dog. It just
needs a lot of training to get to where. It's
not a problem anymore. And that's just, Aussies
are like that, and he's a mini Aussie on top
of that. They're like that. Mini Aussies are
almost impossible to deal with with kids. They're
great dogs, but that's just how they are. It's
like saying, I'm going to get a Husky as a family
dog. Huskies are terrible family dogs. The herding
instinct alone is so strong in a lot of these.
that it makes it really hard for young kids,
especially when you're living in a rural area.
Yep. Yeah, it's just hard. And then trying to
keep them close to you in a rural area. I mean,
they're wanders. Yeah. Herding dogs usually aren't
too bad. Huskies are. Huskies like to wander.
But herding dogs, I mean, they're not too bad.
Ours do pretty okay. Every once in a while, Mercy
will get adventurous, but she never actually
goes anywhere. She just goes in the woods and
won't come back. She's maybe 500 feet from us,
but we can't see her, and she's not coming. Akilah's
like that. He'll be gone for, like, a day chasing
down a deer trail and scent, and then we'll find
him, like, on the porch two days later. Like,
he's an all -white, like, bright white. husky
mix and we'll find beautiful yeah we'll find
him two days later or something on our porch
covered in mud and like you could tell he rolled
into dead carcass and it's like nah no we're
not doing this he's just looking at you baby
seal face just hey i know i fucked up but i'm
back he's just an absolutely beautiful dog he
would be so great for taking on camping if he
wasn't so um territory driven like for marking
he will mark every three seconds on every thing
that doesn't move wrangler definitely does the
mark but we've we've got it to a point where
he mostly just does it away from where we're
camping Every once in a while, I'll catch him
doing something stupid, but he's never pissed
on anyone's tent. Oh, Aquila, he used to be an
inside dog, but it got to the point where he
was marking the corner of a couch. Then he would
mark the wall. Then he would mark the floor.
It was like anywhere that a scent that he didn't
like. It was like, dude, we can't do this. Our
house smells like piss constantly. It was like
we had to change that. Is he still intact? Yeah.
Yeah, so it's wrangling. Okay, that's just how
it works. Yeah, and it was like by the time that
Sienna came back, he was kind of getting too
old to snip. And it was like, okay, it's already
been ingrained. And right now, honestly, he's
much happier being an outside dog. He didn't
like being inside anyway. Huskies, with a small
percentage of wolf in them too, they just don't.
Hey, don't. Now I got to edit that out. Don't
say that on the podcast. It's a legal amount.
No, there's no legal amount in the state of Michigan.
The legal amount is legal. But they did the DNA
test on him. They got him from a farm for like
500 bucks because he was kind of runty. Yeah,
I had a friend who had... An Akita wolf hybrid.
He was like 60 % wolf or something. Dude stood,
like when he stood on his back legs, my buddy
was six foot seven. And this dog was taller than
him when he stood on his back legs. Akitas are
cool. Massive fucking dog. Akitas are cool on
their own. I think our sister -in -law has a
full Akita named Oso. And that thing, two pit
bulls ran into their backyard and the kid was
out. She's like four. That Akita, even with the
owners like shocking them, trying to get them
to come back, that Akita went and fucked those
pit bulls up, both of them at the same time.
Took them down. And that, this thing's big. Like
I didn't think it would get this big, but. Akitas
are big dogs. Yeah, and those pit bull, or no,
they weren't pit bulls. They were, no, yeah,
sorry, pits. I don't know, like red nose, blue
nose kind of. I was thinking I was saying bulldogs
for a second. But, yeah, he fucked those pit
bulls up, and the brother -in -law had to go
and, like, rip him off of them. But they came
to the yard, and they threatened at his kid,
and they were both unleashed. And it was like,
yeah, you know, at that point, you put anyone
in danger like that, that dog did its job. I
mean, it protected the family. The kid was fine.
Nothing happened to her, so. You can't take that
chance. You can't go, oh, maybe they're friendly.
You don't have that time window. Right. I had
a healer pit bull mix when I was in Arizona.
His name was Away. I don't know how the Mexicans
say it, but it was Spanish for some dirty word.
I don't even know. And that's why I ended up
adopting him was he was out on a walk with his
previous family. and they had a pit bull and
something else come at them, and he just tore
into them. He ended up killing the pit bull,
but they ended up putting like eight grand to
keep this dog alive, like in surgeries and stuff.
But he completely demolished, I think it was
a pit bull and a German Shepherd, like just destroyed
them. I mean, it sucks, but at the same time,
they're doing their job. I mean. I mean, pit
bulls, don't get me wrong. I mean, of course,
now we're talking about how aggressive pit bulls
are. When you have the pit bull, it's great.
When you're not the owner of the pit bull, because
I've had probably four pit bulls, friends have
had pit bulls. If you're the family of that dog,
they're babies. You could do anything to them,
and they're typically fine. Yeah, I mean. I mean,
there's always outliers. There's always ones
that don't. The big problem with pit bulls, and
it seems to be mostly a pit bull problem. I've
had a lot of experience with pit bulls. I've
had a few. My cousins have had them. All my friends
have had pit bulls, obviously. They're one of
the most common dogs in America. But the problem
is that pit bulls don't think like a normal dog.
Not in the way that a healer does, because a
healer, doesn't think like a normal dog completely
differently with a pit bull they they retain
ptsd so much so let's say you smack the dog one
time for whatever reason it could wake up in
the middle of night remember that and attack
you like it's not uncommon for a pit bull to
just fucking lose their mind yeah i mean which
sucks because they could be the world's greatest
dog and then they just snap overnight yeah i've
i've never had that personal experience but i've
heard that that can happen where they just snap.
To me, it's just like there's always that outlier.
It's like saying all cops are bad. There's obviously
some bad cops, but generally speaking, they all
kind of try to do something. No, I agree. I'm
just saying pit bulls seem to be the one where
that happens the most with, and it sucks because
they're great dogs unless that happens, and you're
not going to know if it's going to happen unless
it does. We had a blue -nose named Runt. that
would protect the shit out of you and was protective
against literally anybody else who wasn't family.
Like you would have to hold her back. So she
was that aggressive towards anybody who wasn't
family. But to her own family, she was a mom.
Like she was a mama dog. She had pups. And you
could pick her pups up. I mean, you could flip
them around, do this and that. You could lay
on her. she would be completely fine with you.
It was just when there is a stranger in the house,
the stranger wasn't backed into the corner. Runt
was just sitting there fucking staring. I mean,
she did not fuck around. My childhood dog was
a Boxer Lab Mix, and she lived to be, I think
she was 14 when we had her put down. Greatest
dog ever, dude. Absolutely best dog. So like
I said, pits can be the best dogs ever. You know,
I've had this incident more often in my experience
with German Shepherds than I have with - Oh,
they're the same thing. We had a German Shepherd
when I was living with my buddy, my superintendent
of my school, just so happened to be my buddy's
grandfather's friend. He came by, they were going
to go play golf. Our dog ran through the screen
and ripped the back pants, like the shorts right
off the dude's ass. That was number three. That
was the third time. Never family. It was just,
it was someone, you know, to him, he was protecting.
And unfortunately, we had to put him down. But
he was a great dog to the family. But to anybody
who was passing by, unfortunately, he didn't
really give them the time of day. And in a different
world, in a different circumstance, that's exactly
what you want, but not in today's world. you
know yeah i mean you've met you met mercy right
sweetest dog in the world couldn't hurt a fly
when we when i first got her if she even heard
someone speaking spanish she would a switch would
flip and she'd become the most aggressive dog
you've ever met yeah yeah the ptsd she tore she
tore probably three or four like when we moved
to big rapids we had a guy working on the roof
and he was i think he was mexican he might have
been venezuelan though i can't remember But every
time she saw him, she would go through our screens
to get to this dude. She had him cornered. She
took his ladder down after he got on the roof
one time. And in hindsight, the dude was a piece
of shit anyway. They can also sense that, too.
Yeah, but for her, dude, it was Spanish. She
was even fine with Mexicans until they, if they
didn't have an accent. Fine. But if they had
an accent or spoke Spanish, she would lose it.
Yeah. PTSD. And it took probably three years
to train that out of me. How was I going to say?
Oh, Kila. When I first met Kila, he was probably
the most, I don't know how to say this, non -dominant,
bitchiest dog I've ever met. It was like. If
you yelled at him, it was like he was on his
back. And he did not get beat. We didn't beat
him. And before, he wasn't beat either. And he
was just very non -dominant. Other dogs would
come by, and he would get his shit wrecked. For
his size, I was like, dude, you could do so much.
I mean, you're bigger than they are. What is
going on? And after we had Jasper, he leveled
up. It was like... The day that we came home
with Jasper, we put Jasper near him, and he licked
Jasper. You could tell that there was that bond.
He definitely knew that Jasper was family. And
he would sit at our door and wait for Jasper.
We'd come outside, boom, he's back. And it was
like, and now... Any animal, like possum raccoon,
he used to just let them hang out or bark at
them. Now he fucking rips into animals that come
into our property. Like, I wasn't expecting it.
Like, sometimes that protection instinct gets
triggered. And when we had him, I mean, Jasper
could kick this dog in the nuts and he wouldn't
do anything. Like, I have utmost confidence.
The only thing he might do is like jump on Jasper
because he's so excited to see him and lick him
to death and maybe scratch him because of that.
But like, otherwise, I mean, crazy how protective
this dog is. And then when Jasper goes to our
neighbors, which is Sienna's grandparents' house,
he'll howl. He only howls when ambulances go
by, but he'll howl if Jasper goes somewhere he
can't get to. with his electric fence so he'll
sit at the end of his electric fence and howl
till we come back no matter what we do it's crazy
it is hey so real quick because i do i gotta
get off soon to uh go do load out because it's
one of them nights um i'm sending you a link
to another set of wheels i just found tell me
what you think i think they're sick You're muted,
by the way, buddy or pal. Maybe it is the end.
How long have I been muted? There he is. You
said yeah, and then it was muted. Did I say anything
about the dog and the baby? Yeah, you did. Weird.
I didn't press mute. Well, I don't know what
I said and didn't say, so we're going to move
on. I got the Drive folder, but I didn't... Let's
see this. No, that takes me back to the Falcons.
I sent it directly to Huckleberry on Matrix.
Oh, that would be why. Let me check here. Bing,
bang, boom. I've never heard of the company.
It's Lock Off Road, whoever that is, but they
look sick. Oh. Yeah, those are cool. Yeah, they're
fucking sick. And they seem, from what I'm seeing
right now, they seem to have good reviews. And
for $1 ,200? Interesting. Yeah, that ain't bad
at all. Well, shit. Something to think about
while you're at Leatherwood, I guess. See if
anybody else is running them or knows them. Yeah,
because I got to, when we get back, I got to
buy wheels and tires pretty quick. Heck yeah.
Well. It's going to be, I'll probably order wheels
and then pay them off and then order tires and
then pay them off and then order the bead locks
and then pay them off and then have them assembled.
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. But. Well, shit.
All right. Look at that. We got an hour and 13
minutes out of that. Out of a completely bonus,
unexpected episode. So listeners, enjoy that.
And on that note, we'll see you after they get
back from Leatherwood, probably. I think we're
still going to record one tomorrow. Oh, are we?
Okay. Yeah, because we still have to do our rap
and stuff. So this is kind of just a bonus episode,
I guess. Bing, bang, boom. You're welcome. can't
complain can't complain but all right talk to
you later catch you guys later