WEBVTT 00:00:15.650 --> 00:00:18.570 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:18.570 --> 00:00:21.010 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:21.309 --> 00:00:23.710 tank camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:23.710 --> 00:00:27.870 to do with the outdoors. Today is kind of a wrap, 00:00:28.089 --> 00:00:30.989 but it's a wrap on a Tuesday. I know, it's weird, 00:00:31.089 --> 00:00:37.229 it feels wrong. But we did our third -gen camping 00:00:37.229 --> 00:00:41.429 weekend, and I figured that an hour -long episode 00:00:41.429 --> 00:00:45.670 was a lot more... than a little half -hour wrap 00:00:45.670 --> 00:00:51.030 -up. So we got Mr. Shane and Duncan on with us. 00:00:51.570 --> 00:00:54.829 I think that's pretty much everyone. We did have 00:00:54.829 --> 00:00:58.810 the rover guy show up, but... Yeah, he doesn't 00:00:58.810 --> 00:01:02.929 count. The main focus of the weekend is all here. 00:01:03.030 --> 00:01:06.769 Yeah. Yeah, core group's all here. Yeah, nothing 00:01:06.769 --> 00:01:13.400 broken at all. I'm not sure about that. I can't 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:19.159 go over 35 anymore. I still smoke gas. It's not 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:25.459 leaking. Superficial. So, I mean, I can't say 00:01:25.459 --> 00:01:28.379 that nothing's broken. Just, you know, when we 00:01:28.379 --> 00:01:30.879 left Everett and we're driving down to Riggs 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.000 and Coffee, that drive on the expressway was 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.099 really sketchy, and it just progressively got 00:01:36.099 --> 00:01:42.859 worse. I was definitely just out of balance from 00:01:42.859 --> 00:01:47.359 how much mud I had packed in my wheels. That's 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.579 what I thought. Like I was getting crazy vibrations. 00:01:50.420 --> 00:01:52.519 That's what I thought was going on too. So I 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:57.319 sprayed out my wheels and it made it worse. Cool. 00:01:59.579 --> 00:02:01.700 Oh, my truck complained about his needed oil 00:02:01.700 --> 00:02:03.620 change after the long drive with the trailer. 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.620 But other than that, that's fine. That's just 00:02:06.620 --> 00:02:09.990 because it's time for an oil change. It is time 00:02:09.990 --> 00:02:12.849 for oil change. Well, yeah, and for the record, 00:02:12.930 --> 00:02:14.650 Alex and I were very responsible. We did our 00:02:14.650 --> 00:02:17.909 oil changes before. I did do my oil change the 00:02:17.909 --> 00:02:22.409 weekend before. I was responsible for once. Exactly. 00:02:22.509 --> 00:02:24.530 Yeah, and I dipped my finger in mine a few times, 00:02:24.569 --> 00:02:27.370 and I didn't see anything shiny, so the bike 00:02:27.370 --> 00:02:32.729 VZ continues to live. It's always a plus. You've 00:02:32.729 --> 00:02:36.389 only got 150 ,000 miles on that thing? Mm -hmm. 00:02:36.699 --> 00:02:39.680 Yeah, and somehow, despite having 150 ,000 miles, 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:43.060 my truck seems to be in the worst shape. All 00:02:43.060 --> 00:02:45.000 the rust. I guarantee it's just the fact that 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.120 it wasn't driven a lot. Because you have a... 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:49.280 Your third gen is from the Midwest, right, Alex? 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:55.960 It's pretty rusty, man. Is yours a rust -off 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.699 car? Yeah, it was from Wisconsin. Wisconsin. 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:03.800 Yeah, I mean, mine did sit for a few years, so 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.139 I wonder if they brushed it. Got salt in there 00:03:07.139 --> 00:03:09.560 and it just sat on the yard for a long time. 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:15.099 I mean, my frame was definitely a worse shape 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:19.280 than yours. Your frame's not too bad. No, knock 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.039 on wood. No, from everything we've seen. It's 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:28.280 weird because my car rusted, the frame rotted, 00:03:28.300 --> 00:03:31.419 and then the rockers rotted. Yours, it's like 00:03:31.419 --> 00:03:36.979 everything else. I know. It's fantastic. Yeah. 00:03:37.060 --> 00:03:39.659 Yeah, that's... That damn rank joint is deep. 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:46.099 Here. Ah, that's just weight reduction. Yeah. 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.039 Yeah, right. Yeah, I'll definitely have to... 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.639 Disassemble an angle grinder. The question is, 00:03:51.699 --> 00:03:54.780 where do I stop cutting? Because, Shane, I think 00:03:54.780 --> 00:03:57.840 yours came from down south, didn't it? I don't 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.539 know. Mine's a southern truck. Pennsylvania. 00:04:00.659 --> 00:04:06.159 It was like... A year in Florida and came back 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:13.460 from Virginia in like 2018, somewhere in there 00:04:13.460 --> 00:04:17.660 when I ran the Carfax on it. So it's not spent 00:04:17.660 --> 00:04:23.259 its entire life in the Rust Belt, but it's got 00:04:23.259 --> 00:04:28.500 touches underneath. I've just been diligent about 00:04:28.500 --> 00:04:33.379 recoding it. Each winner, so the frame holds 00:04:33.379 --> 00:04:38.639 on better than the discos did. Yeah, speaking 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.600 of the disco, that showed up to 3rd Gen Weekend. 00:04:41.620 --> 00:04:46.860 We got to check her out. Made you almost want 00:04:46.860 --> 00:04:49.699 one. I changed my mind. I don't want one anymore. 00:04:50.899 --> 00:04:54.540 After watching it almost roll? Yeah, that's kind 00:04:54.540 --> 00:04:59.670 of what... what turned my opinion on it. It had 00:04:59.670 --> 00:05:04.350 absolutely no flex whatsoever. Yeah, if you have 00:05:04.350 --> 00:05:09.050 the heavy -duty springs on it and aren't running 00:05:09.050 --> 00:05:13.930 detachable sway bars or just sway bar deletes, 00:05:13.990 --> 00:05:18.110 there's no downward flex. Literally, the only 00:05:18.110 --> 00:05:20.889 way that that guy got through that obstacle was 00:05:20.889 --> 00:05:23.910 his skinny pedal, and that almost resulted in 00:05:23.910 --> 00:05:30.550 a pretty bad accident. that was almost a catastrophic 00:05:30.550 --> 00:05:34.529 catastrophic roll over we're talking like two 00:05:34.529 --> 00:05:38.769 inches from a tree like it was it was pretty 00:05:38.769 --> 00:05:44.709 scary the video doesn't do it justice no he almost 00:05:44.709 --> 00:05:48.089 rolled it if it wasn't for the steel rear and 00:05:48.089 --> 00:05:51.170 then launched out of the rut almost straight 00:05:51.170 --> 00:05:55.879 into a tree yeah yeah It kind of reminded me, 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.060 when I was at Marblehead in that last little 00:05:58.060 --> 00:06:00.620 bit, I decided to just go at it, but it was, 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:02.899 like, way sketchier than that. It was way sketchier, 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:06.980 dude. It was so bad. It's interesting, because 00:06:06.980 --> 00:06:09.180 I feel like all my close calls are the opposite. 00:06:09.699 --> 00:06:12.319 Like, I'm in the moment, and I'm like, oh, god, 00:06:12.500 --> 00:06:14.680 that was cool. Surprised I made it through that, 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:16.000 and then I watched the video back, and it looks 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.360 like nothing happened. Yeah, no. I'm like, oh, 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:20.470 that was... That's a good problem to have, though, 00:06:20.509 --> 00:06:23.470 you know, like if it's a sketchy end. The video 00:06:23.470 --> 00:06:27.569 does not do it any justice. So the problem with 00:06:27.569 --> 00:06:31.009 videotaping obstacles are they make everything 00:06:31.009 --> 00:06:35.269 flat. So it makes every obstacle look easy, even 00:06:35.269 --> 00:06:41.050 if it's really hard. Yeah. I know. I don't know 00:06:41.050 --> 00:06:43.509 what the fix is to that. I tried zooming in, 00:06:43.569 --> 00:06:45.629 and that kind of helped put it in perspective 00:06:45.629 --> 00:06:51.759 a little bit. I don't know that there really 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:53.959 is a fix for it. It's just kind of the nature 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.240 of the beast. The only thing I've found that 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.560 really kind of highlights difficulty of obstacles 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:05.600 is doing a fender mount with a GoPro so that 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.500 it's at the wheel because then you see all the 00:07:09.500 --> 00:07:12.279 up and down travel. But then again, on a GoPro, 00:07:12.459 --> 00:07:18.019 it's still self -stabilizing. You can be banging 00:07:18.019 --> 00:07:22.360 yourself around, and it looks like a mildly bumpy 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:25.439 dirt road. That's not even how my iPhone worked. 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.939 I just had it in my little phone holder and pointed 00:07:27.939 --> 00:07:30.100 out the edge. Yeah, I was watching something 00:07:30.100 --> 00:07:31.720 back with Alex, and I was like, man, this felt 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:33.699 way beyond bumper and plus the rest of the video. 00:07:35.500 --> 00:07:38.699 So I didn't even know that was a thing. Little 00:07:38.699 --> 00:07:41.459 squirrel thought here. Does Duncan sound okay 00:07:41.459 --> 00:07:43.079 to everyone? Because he's kind of really quiet 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:47.060 to me. Yeah, I've got good audio on. Okay, I 00:07:47.060 --> 00:07:49.720 just want to make sure because I don't want the 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.000 recording to be a bunch of Duncan just being 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:56.459 quiet. Might not be the worst thing. I can hold 00:07:56.459 --> 00:07:57.980 the microphone in front of me too like this. 00:07:58.100 --> 00:08:00.040 Oh, you know, it also really helps if I turn 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.019 your volume up on my video call. I was about 00:08:03.019 --> 00:08:06.500 to say. Ah, there you go. There you go. Yeah, 00:08:06.579 --> 00:08:08.379 I'm charging my phone so I can't use my regular 00:08:08.379 --> 00:08:12.959 gaming headset. Gotcha. Darn modern tech and 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:20.399 taking away our headphone jack. I guess they're 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.819 supposedly generations trying to bring it all 00:08:22.819 --> 00:08:29.779 back again. Mark, we use Zunes every day. I heard 00:08:29.779 --> 00:08:31.779 someone that they're, I can't remember which 00:08:31.779 --> 00:08:34.419 group, but they're buying VHS tapes and everything 00:08:34.419 --> 00:08:36.600 because they can tire the streaming services. 00:08:37.769 --> 00:08:39.850 While they're idiots, they just need to set up 00:08:39.850 --> 00:08:42.149 a server in their basement and steal it all. 00:08:42.230 --> 00:08:46.809 It's way more affordable. Or just get DVDs. It'd 00:08:46.809 --> 00:08:49.289 be easier to find a DVD player. Especially since 00:08:49.289 --> 00:08:52.029 VHS is nearing the end of life and starting to, 00:08:52.049 --> 00:08:56.330 like, degrade and not be good anymore. 100%. 00:08:56.330 --> 00:08:59.269 I feel like that should be the next camping buy 00:08:59.269 --> 00:09:01.309 is we get a mini projector set up. We can watch 00:09:01.309 --> 00:09:03.629 it and have movie nights out there. I definitely 00:09:03.629 --> 00:09:09.529 have a mini projector. that i bought in korea 00:09:09.529 --> 00:09:13.730 in 2015 so you know that it's really good quality 00:09:13.730 --> 00:09:16.809 honestly we all just huddle around whoever has 00:09:16.809 --> 00:09:21.210 the biggest phone we get to huddle around we'll 00:09:21.210 --> 00:09:27.370 just squint yeah my uh my projector was my main 00:09:27.370 --> 00:09:31.169 tv for like three years my entire time in the 00:09:31.169 --> 00:09:37.210 army I would get it up to 120 inches and 720p. 00:09:37.450 --> 00:09:43.129 So, like, it's not terrible. Oh, it worked well 00:09:43.129 --> 00:09:45.690 enough. I remember we had one at the Beta Theta 00:09:45.690 --> 00:09:49.429 Phi fraternity house at Michigan State University. 00:09:49.769 --> 00:09:51.690 That was the entirety of everything that we watched 00:09:51.690 --> 00:09:56.929 on TV. So everything was just horribly white. 00:09:57.940 --> 00:10:00.940 Yeah, not a good time and yeah, I mean I got 00:10:00.940 --> 00:10:02.779 the bit somebody banged against the wall to obviously 00:10:02.779 --> 00:10:10.000 split off You know you make do and it's the experience 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.500 to you know, it's the fun of being camping watching 00:10:12.500 --> 00:10:17.059 movie God knows. Yeah, it can't be too nice. 00:10:17.500 --> 00:10:21.259 Yeah. Yeah Yeah, no one's thinking we have fun 00:10:21.259 --> 00:10:23.100 of these camping because then miserable stuff 00:10:23.100 --> 00:10:27.899 breaks we spend all the time thick so Yeah, we 00:10:27.899 --> 00:10:29.919 should. I guess we can start at the beginning 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:34.100 a little. So me, Duncan, and Mark convoyed up 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:40.779 on Friday to Everett, Michigan. Yep. We got started 00:10:40.779 --> 00:10:42.799 a little late. I don't think we left till like 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:48.779 1. Yeah. Like 1, 1 .30. We were on 1 -ish. But 00:10:48.779 --> 00:10:54.500 I know we... We're pretty much set up by four. 00:10:54.580 --> 00:10:57.019 Duncan went into town at four to see if there 00:10:57.019 --> 00:11:00.220 were anybody who showed up to the event. And 00:11:00.220 --> 00:11:02.799 because y 'all hate us, nobody showed up to the 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:06.320 event. No. I'll tell you though, I was sitting 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:07.980 there in the parking lot and I saw like a couple 00:11:07.980 --> 00:11:10.659 of people and I was like, oh, somebody didn't 00:11:10.659 --> 00:11:14.620 like knock at the memos. I was like, I'm going 00:11:14.620 --> 00:11:16.720 to have to turn them away. But no, they just 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:22.830 drove out again. No such luck. So we, uh, We 00:11:22.830 --> 00:11:24.850 had a pretty good setup. I would say it's probably 00:11:24.850 --> 00:11:26.830 one of my favorite campsite setups we've ever 00:11:26.830 --> 00:11:31.049 had. The setup was awesome. Those light fighter 00:11:31.049 --> 00:11:36.169 tents are legit for solo camping. They're amazing 00:11:36.169 --> 00:11:40.649 for solo camping. Solo camping unless you brought 00:11:40.649 --> 00:11:45.789 two dogs with you. Honest? Okay. Both dogs slept. 00:11:45.909 --> 00:11:48.289 Foreshadowing. Foreshadowing. Yeah, okay, foreshadowing. 00:11:48.309 --> 00:11:52.269 We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Yeah. So, 00:11:52.289 --> 00:11:55.850 yeah, the light fighter tents were sick. And 00:11:55.850 --> 00:11:57.929 even your guys' tents, I don't know if you looked 00:11:57.929 --> 00:12:01.169 at the picture, but they kind of match. Yeah. 00:12:02.289 --> 00:12:05.250 Not intentional, but I'll take it. I'll say it 00:12:05.250 --> 00:12:09.009 was intentional. It looks really professional. 00:12:09.389 --> 00:12:12.169 Two red and white tents on either side, and then 00:12:12.169 --> 00:12:15.809 just a perfect uniform row of light fighters. 00:12:15.889 --> 00:12:21.179 I mean, it was beautiful. And then... Kitchen 00:12:21.179 --> 00:12:24.720 Gazebo came in real clutch with the rain. Oh, 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:29.700 that Gazebo is such a goodbye. That's what VEVER 00:12:29.700 --> 00:12:33.139 makes that? Yeah, it was like VEVER or something 00:12:33.139 --> 00:12:38.519 like that. VEVER six -sided octagonal awning. 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:42.919 Quick setup. I mean, it takes us like five minutes 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:48.860 to set up and tear down. It's nothing. What's 00:12:48.860 --> 00:12:52.149 up? As long as we're not lollygagging about it. 00:12:52.210 --> 00:12:56.129 Well, I mean, actual work time is like five minutes. 00:12:56.409 --> 00:13:01.289 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, we just pop it up 00:13:01.289 --> 00:13:03.269 like you would a deer blind and stake it down, 00:13:03.389 --> 00:13:08.210 and she's ready to go. Is it the 12 1⁄2 by 12 00:13:08.210 --> 00:13:11.669 1⁄2 one? Yeah, that one's 12 by 12. It is? Yeah, 00:13:11.769 --> 00:13:14.730 so if you go into the website, B -E -B -O -R. 00:13:15.490 --> 00:13:18.789 182 block. Yeah. And I think we'd all agree that. 00:13:20.049 --> 00:13:22.169 fantastic but it's like because the biggest thing 00:13:22.169 --> 00:13:25.090 for me was when it was colder and i was i wasn't 00:13:25.090 --> 00:13:26.649 too worried about it but i was semi worried about 00:13:26.649 --> 00:13:28.470 it that we were going to get out there we're 00:13:28.470 --> 00:13:29.970 going to be cooking hanging out it was going 00:13:29.970 --> 00:13:32.690 to be like 50 degrees and no one's going to want 00:13:32.690 --> 00:13:34.149 to hang out and have a conversation with each 00:13:34.149 --> 00:13:35.610 other but just being able to get out of that 00:13:35.610 --> 00:13:38.110 thing you know it blocked the wind really well 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:40.750 when we were cooking it held the heat and like 00:13:40.750 --> 00:13:42.529 we were even able to get the uh you know the 00:13:42.529 --> 00:13:44.330 fire pit that we had was the entrance to the 00:13:44.330 --> 00:13:47.830 door and um yeah i mean it was fantastic kept 00:13:47.830 --> 00:13:50.830 everything dry kept everyone warm not too noisy 00:13:50.830 --> 00:13:55.289 didn't fall over and the hard panels are nice 00:13:55.289 --> 00:13:57.830 because you can put the hard panels up and block 00:13:57.830 --> 00:14:00.250 the wind and everything and then if you need 00:14:00.250 --> 00:14:02.629 some more air you just let the top half of it 00:14:02.629 --> 00:14:07.950 droop down and boom there's airflow yeah fantastic 00:14:07.950 --> 00:14:14.490 yeah so we got all set up that first night We 00:14:14.490 --> 00:14:16.330 didn't really do anything. We just waited around 00:14:16.330 --> 00:14:19.809 for Shane to show up. Because he lollygags. I 00:14:19.809 --> 00:14:24.389 didn't hit the road until about 5 o 'clock, 5 00:14:24.389 --> 00:14:28.029 .30. Because I had to get the boys out of school. 00:14:28.590 --> 00:14:31.669 And they finished the last few things packing 00:14:31.669 --> 00:14:38.049 up. So I got out there, I think around 7 .30 00:14:38.049 --> 00:14:42.759 at night. Quick setup. trailer pulled really 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:48.539 well for dedicated camping weekend that's definitely 00:14:48.539 --> 00:14:54.220 the route to go yeah and they on the way out 00:14:54.220 --> 00:14:58.500 there i thought because i passed a tacoma pretty 00:14:58.500 --> 00:15:00.679 similar to yours mark and i thought they might 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.340 have been heading out that way because they had 00:15:02.340 --> 00:15:07.740 indie plates and i was like oh man i they they 00:15:07.740 --> 00:15:10.100 left the gas station before i got a chance to 00:15:10.539 --> 00:15:13.100 They see what they were doing. I'm like, if you're 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:18.220 wheeling, head out to Everett. Yeah, I know. 00:15:18.620 --> 00:15:21.139 I think the plan is to advertise a little better. 00:15:23.580 --> 00:15:29.440 Yeah, for sure. I like that it's just our core 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:33.299 group, but it would be cool to see a couple other 00:15:33.299 --> 00:15:36.519 rigs, or if Brian ever actually followed through. 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.299 Like, yeah, I'll be there for sure this time. 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:44.080 No, you won't. That was this time. Brian, you're 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.240 a liar. He was for sure going to be there this 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:51.940 time, and he bailed on us. Yep. He was working. 00:15:51.980 --> 00:15:54.419 I forget exactly what project he was working 00:15:54.419 --> 00:15:57.419 on. He was working on a... Yeah, he was saying 00:15:57.419 --> 00:16:00.360 someone paid him to do their serpentine belt, 00:16:00.539 --> 00:16:04.879 and I think breaks. So he's like, as easy as 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.789 it was, I couldn't say no. I don't even want 00:16:07.789 --> 00:16:10.549 to hear the B word. I have to do this flop. You 00:16:10.549 --> 00:16:14.090 know, I was looking around, and I've spoken to 00:16:14.090 --> 00:16:18.269 several people. I upgraded to a GM one -ton master 00:16:18.269 --> 00:16:22.929 cylinder on my third gen. And all the examples 00:16:22.929 --> 00:16:25.889 I saw, the reservoir split, big one from the 00:16:25.889 --> 00:16:28.190 back, and a firewall, the little one, just split 00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:30.830 reservoir. And everyone said, you know, you have 00:16:30.830 --> 00:16:32.529 front brakes, just go to the back. Same as with 00:16:32.529 --> 00:16:34.809 the stock setup. But mine is flipped, so I'm 00:16:34.809 --> 00:16:36.549 almost certain I have it backwards, which means 00:16:36.549 --> 00:16:37.990 we're going to need to do the whole brake lead 00:16:37.990 --> 00:16:42.009 debacle. And my stall is not ready. I brought 00:16:42.009 --> 00:16:44.950 that up. Well, everyone I spoke to said that 00:16:44.950 --> 00:16:47.529 it goes that way, you know. And, you know, what 00:16:47.529 --> 00:16:49.850 I was thinking was that the master cylinder passes 00:16:49.850 --> 00:16:51.990 that port first, so it has the most pressure. 00:16:52.809 --> 00:16:54.970 But I don't know if that's fully how master cylinders 00:16:54.970 --> 00:16:57.610 work. And I spoke to the Trail Gear guys, and 00:16:57.610 --> 00:16:58.909 they said, yeah, it should be the other way. 00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:04.480 But, yeah, so me and Brakes. Pop a leak? Didn't 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.819 slam into the back of the Discovery at any point? 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.559 Went downhill? Well, okay. I came pretty close 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.380 a couple times, but I managed to get the brake 00:17:12.380 --> 00:17:15.059 on. And when Mark and I took the bypass at a 00:17:15.059 --> 00:17:17.119 later point, I was going down that hill way too 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.119 fast. Oh, I'm sorry. And I was going backwards. 00:17:20.259 --> 00:17:23.660 And we folded one of the mirrors in. But that's 00:17:23.660 --> 00:17:29.140 a story for later in the book. Yeah. I don't 00:17:29.140 --> 00:17:31.200 want to talk about mirrors being folded in quite 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:36.750 yet. I know, gosh, yeah. Well, I mean, hey, you've 00:17:36.750 --> 00:17:39.390 only got one folding mirror. Well, yeah, that 00:17:39.390 --> 00:17:41.750 means we all folded a mirror in at some point 00:17:41.750 --> 00:17:45.829 over the weekend. Yeah. Do they have electric 00:17:45.829 --> 00:17:51.309 folding mirrors with OJ? No. Well, if you're 00:17:51.309 --> 00:17:53.710 listening, anyone, you want to design one. Make 00:17:53.710 --> 00:17:57.349 one. Yeah, three good buyers, right? Yeah, we'll 00:17:57.349 --> 00:18:03.099 pay for it. I want holographic mirrors that don't 00:18:03.099 --> 00:18:05.400 actually exist but still show me what's behind 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:10.079 me. I was about to say, just have it work programs 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.859 knowing there's an obstacle that's going to take 00:18:11.859 --> 00:18:16.339 it out. I was saying, when we rented one of the 00:18:16.339 --> 00:18:18.880 brand new discoveries, it must have been like 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:24.460 2018. That thing had cameras on all four wheels. 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:26.299 Mind you, I was just driving down Dunn Road. 00:18:26.420 --> 00:18:30.180 It was a fantasy vacation. You could see all 00:18:30.180 --> 00:18:32.160 four wheels the whole time you were driving. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.759 It was pretty cool. Yeah. But you also couldn't 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:37.240 pull down the seats manually. You had to press 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:44.279 a button. So it was way too... Yeah, so we... 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.759 Shane finally showed up, and we kind of hung 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.259 out by the fire with the... Well, under the awning 00:18:51.259 --> 00:18:53.059 by the fire, because it was raining pretty good 00:18:53.059 --> 00:18:57.640 by this point. Yep. Yeah, I got set up just before 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:03.700 the rain hit hard. Yeah, we drank quite a bit 00:19:03.700 --> 00:19:05.700 of beer that night. I think we drank more beer 00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:09.759 Friday night than Saturday night. Yeah. Trying 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:11.359 to take the edge off the fact that we might break 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:16.250 stuff. Yeah, yeah. Like I said, like... You don't 00:19:16.250 --> 00:19:17.910 understand, like, when I was doing that brake 00:19:17.910 --> 00:19:20.809 swap, like, we, like, bleed the brakes, and, 00:19:20.910 --> 00:19:22.210 you know, you get good, and you're like, that 00:19:22.210 --> 00:19:23.569 was a pretty good pedal feel, and then something 00:19:23.569 --> 00:19:26.049 would just start leaking out of, but no reason. 00:19:26.730 --> 00:19:29.150 No reason. You're like, oh, it's leaking. You'd 00:19:29.150 --> 00:19:30.910 be like, no, it's, like, why would it start leaking 00:19:30.910 --> 00:19:32.630 out? And then you tighten it up, bleed them again, 00:19:32.849 --> 00:19:34.369 oh, that's good pedal pressure, and you're like, 00:19:34.430 --> 00:19:37.710 oh, that's leaking. I was, I was, I was going 00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:41.309 to break. Absolutely suck. And then, you know, 00:19:41.309 --> 00:19:43.269 we had the experience last year with the mud 00:19:43.269 --> 00:19:45.289 and water and everything. It felt like that was 00:19:45.289 --> 00:19:50.109 all. Oh, yeah. I was expecting a lot deeper mud 00:19:50.109 --> 00:19:53.470 and water this year with the storms we've had 00:19:53.470 --> 00:19:58.549 come through. It hasn't gotten hot yet because 00:19:58.549 --> 00:20:02.549 we were late summer last year and it was significantly 00:20:02.549 --> 00:20:07.759 wetter. Yeah, I was about to say. I think the 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:10.400 mud was gnarly at Poker Run than it was this 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.839 time. It was way gnarlier at Poker Run. Yeah, 00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:15.559 I was really impressed with how dry ever it was. 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:19.819 It made, especially that last mud puddle that 00:20:19.819 --> 00:20:22.220 we all went through, that one scares me, and 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:27.480 that was really dry. Yeah. Yeah, and we were 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.460 all talking about how undramatic everyone's looked 00:20:29.460 --> 00:20:31.299 until mine went through and stuck right at it. 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:38.420 Yeah, yours made it look like it should. We all 00:20:38.420 --> 00:20:42.359 go through and it's just like a little sploosh. 00:20:42.420 --> 00:20:44.400 And then you go through and it's like, you're 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:48.160 at your hood. Yeah. Yeah. It's pushing a big 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.220 bowel wake. Yeah. Cause it's unstuck, right? 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:52.480 I, and, um, you know, what, what plan to fix 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:54.940 that before we do our leatherwood trip? But yeah, 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:56.599 but right now, yeah, it has the added benefit 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:58.319 of making everything look incredibly dramatic. 00:20:58.619 --> 00:21:00.440 The problem though, is that it also feels dramatic 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.539 from inside the cab down to the worry wall. So 00:21:03.539 --> 00:21:06.240 I was paying attention. Yeah. And to add insult 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.380 to injury, the little scan gauge I have, I have 00:21:08.380 --> 00:21:11.160 voltage set up on that. So I remember, I think 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:12.859 I said this last year, you know, when Shane went 00:21:12.859 --> 00:21:14.480 through and found out his alternator in a big 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:17.000 puddle, they just got soaked with mud and water. 00:21:17.460 --> 00:21:21.019 I went through the bypass and, you know, it was 00:21:21.019 --> 00:21:23.720 deep, but not as deep. But yeah, water came up 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.440 over the hood and I got through and I was reading 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:28.680 good voltage and I was like, oh, great. And then 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:32.079 out of nowhere, 12 volt. That's just like 11 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.660 volts. I was like, oh no, no, no, no, and then 00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:39.019 jump back up to 15 Wow So like it's a good thing 00:21:39.019 --> 00:21:40.680 to have but I also feel like I just worried myself 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.519 about it Yeah, it's just the fact that you can 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:47.420 see it and just that's not going the direction 00:21:47.420 --> 00:21:52.339 it should Benefits having a lead foot like Alex. 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:54.180 Yeah, you kind of just everything just seems 00:21:54.180 --> 00:21:58.839 automatic. You just fly through it I was trying 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.819 so hard to go slow enough for you, but to me, 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.359 I don't feel it. You know, I can drive down the 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:06.299 road and barely feel the road, and you're like, 00:22:06.420 --> 00:22:11.079 bro, I can't keep up. I was like, oh, I need 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:12.779 to slow down. I'm going to get thrown all over 00:22:12.779 --> 00:22:14.980 the place. Yeah, me and Mark, and I'm like, man, 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.119 I feel so bad because Mark was grunting every 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:18.579 single time he went to a bump, and I was like, 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:20.000 he is not going to want to ride with me again. 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.240 No, you're good. I had Joseph always ride with 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.380 you. Yeah, I was about to say, I don't usually 00:22:28.380 --> 00:22:30.539 ride passengers, so it's been a good bit since 00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:34.579 I've done that. I definitely remember whatever 00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:37.039 it feels like stock ride hikes. I drove the black 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:39.059 truck with stock front shocks through there, 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.660 and I thought I was going to die. Like, it was 00:22:41.660 --> 00:22:44.740 the worst experience of my life. Well, they're 00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:48.240 also, like, 25 years old, 26 years old in my 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.920 vehicle. Okay, yeah, the black trucks are brand 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:55.109 new, so. Yeah, so the 80 definitely doesn't help, 00:22:55.230 --> 00:23:00.910 but we plan to fix it. Yeah, and then, man, we 00:23:00.910 --> 00:23:05.369 kind of jumped way ahead. I don't even remember 00:23:05.369 --> 00:23:07.650 what the first obstacle we did was. Oh, it was 00:23:07.650 --> 00:23:10.970 the first obstacle was that hill climb. Yeah, 00:23:10.970 --> 00:23:16.690 the small hill climb. A 90 at the top. The baby 00:23:16.690 --> 00:23:18.609 Everett hill climb because the big Everett hill 00:23:18.609 --> 00:23:21.569 climb got shut down because they hate us. Yep. 00:23:22.300 --> 00:23:24.220 Yeah, well, I think we were all pretty convinced 00:23:24.220 --> 00:23:25.940 there was an accident there at some point, right? 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.339 I don't know when. There had to have been an 00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:36.900 accident at some point. Yeah. Yeah, so I think 00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:38.740 we all got through that hill climb without any, 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.519 like, real dramatics. Do we even have videos 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.240 from that hill climb? No, I don't think so. I've 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:49.359 got... I'll have to look back. I might have a 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:54.799 video of you going up. Did Alan record? Dude, 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.420 I know you dropped them off. I know there's a 00:23:57.420 --> 00:24:03.740 video of mine going up, but this year it was 00:24:03.740 --> 00:24:06.759 a lot more packed than it has been in the past. 00:24:06.859 --> 00:24:09.380 Like, last third gen weekend, that was loose. 00:24:10.180 --> 00:24:15.319 Yeah. Like, you had to take two, three goes at 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.420 it, and we tried traction boards on it. But... 00:24:19.710 --> 00:24:21.769 That was before we knew how to lock his center 00:24:21.769 --> 00:24:27.049 diff. It was, yeah. Bucks have known how those 00:24:27.049 --> 00:24:30.890 center diffs work, and there's a forum thread 00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:34.890 on T4R for anyone else who has... What is it, 00:24:34.910 --> 00:24:37.849 multi -mode? Is that the transfer case they have 00:24:37.849 --> 00:24:39.769 or something like that? Sounds like a J -shift 00:24:39.769 --> 00:24:45.109 case. Yeah, there's a forum thread on T4R .com. 00:24:45.850 --> 00:24:48.410 And they explain what each of the different modes 00:24:48.410 --> 00:24:50.390 do. So if you have one of those, I'd recommend 00:24:50.390 --> 00:24:52.549 reading through it, getting very familiar with 00:24:52.549 --> 00:24:54.849 what you can do. Because, you know, like Shane 00:24:54.849 --> 00:24:57.089 alluded to last year, I didn't really know what 00:24:57.089 --> 00:24:59.250 I was doing. And I think the first few attempts, 00:24:59.410 --> 00:25:01.650 I really loosened it up. And then Alex came in. 00:25:01.690 --> 00:25:04.569 He was like, well, you know, let's do, you know, 00:25:04.609 --> 00:25:06.990 low four locks. Let's go into, you know, two. 00:25:07.529 --> 00:25:09.549 And then let's try the hill. And that was probably 00:25:09.549 --> 00:25:12.250 the best attempt I had. In this go -around, I 00:25:12.250 --> 00:25:14.289 had that thought first time, and I went straight 00:25:14.289 --> 00:25:18.289 up. Yeah. So to my surprise, I couldn't believe 00:25:18.289 --> 00:25:21.269 it. I was like, oh, here we go again. Yeah. Duncan's 00:25:21.269 --> 00:25:23.970 getting stuck in the post obstacle, but made 00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:25.349 it all the way through. Couldn't believe it. 00:25:25.390 --> 00:25:26.970 But then I had to deal with the downhill section, 00:25:27.109 --> 00:25:30.789 which is almost scary. The downhill on that one 00:25:30.789 --> 00:25:34.950 now is actually more challenging than the uphill. 00:25:35.529 --> 00:25:39.369 If you hit it the other way. The big rock has 00:25:39.369 --> 00:25:42.089 kind of gotten washed around. So you've got more 00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:44.650 clearance off that rock on driver's side now. 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.599 Now, if you do it the other way, it's almost 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.440 more fun because you're supposed to do it the 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.859 other way. We always do it backwards. Oh, well, 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:58.380 they told me. But, I mean, either way, the obstacle's 00:25:58.380 --> 00:26:01.700 fun either direction. It's gotten pretty well 00:26:01.700 --> 00:26:04.259 washed out and worn on both sides that it's about. 00:26:06.259 --> 00:26:08.740 Excuse me, I'm sorry. It's pretty on par with 00:26:08.740 --> 00:26:12.000 each other either direction, so. Yeah. Yeah. 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.559 Yeah, and I really... After that, we just kind 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.240 of rode... Oh, after that, I accidentally took 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:24.640 us on a hiking trail. Yeah. I don't have much 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:29.220 video of that, but that trail was really fun. 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:35.160 Yes. That was a really good trail. Yeah, it's 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.500 just... It's a little bit wider than the truck, 00:26:38.579 --> 00:26:43.309 a little bit shorter than the truck, and... Lots 00:26:43.309 --> 00:26:48.990 of off -camber and loose leaves. It's just a 00:26:48.990 --> 00:26:51.329 good trail. Everything about it is fun. It is. 00:26:52.569 --> 00:26:56.470 It was. And credits to the third gens, too. That's 00:26:56.470 --> 00:26:58.549 one of the nice things is that they are so narrow. 00:27:00.210 --> 00:27:02.970 I've said it so many times on the weekend. I 00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:07.710 can't bat him going through that. Or a disco. 00:27:07.910 --> 00:27:12.960 How did he get through that with the disco? Plus, 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.539 is the Disco as narrow as the Dungeons? It's 00:27:16.539 --> 00:27:21.019 definitely wider. A little bit wider, but the 00:27:21.019 --> 00:27:26.140 height is the big setback on the Disco. Especially 00:27:26.140 --> 00:27:30.359 with that Safari rack, it's so tall. It is. What 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.680 is it? It's a first -generation Discovery, right? 00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:38.779 That one's a 2. Oh, it's a Disco 2. Yep. What 00:27:38.779 --> 00:27:43.950 year is it? 04. So the last of the second gens. 00:27:44.509 --> 00:27:49.430 So one more year and we would have had all third 00:27:49.430 --> 00:27:55.269 gens for the wheeling portion. Yeah, then we 00:27:55.269 --> 00:27:58.549 got to that mud hole that we were talking about 00:27:58.549 --> 00:28:02.769 that was drier than we expected. And, I mean, 00:28:02.789 --> 00:28:05.529 usually we take the vagina trail there. That's 00:28:05.529 --> 00:28:07.890 literally there used to be a sign on a tree that 00:28:07.890 --> 00:28:12.680 says vagina trail. So usually we take that, but 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.779 this time around I decided to just go for it 00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:18.000 because it was dry enough, and I don't think 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.119 anyone even struggled a little bit on that. No, 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.839 really, the only part to be technical on it was 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.359 angling in on the approach because there's that 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.440 big washout section with a drop down, but once 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.769 you were in it, I mean... We all walked that 00:28:38.769 --> 00:28:45.950 pretty easily. But yeah, Vagina Trail, the Alternator 00:28:45.950 --> 00:28:48.029 Killer, whatever you want to call that trail, 00:28:48.190 --> 00:28:50.529 because that's the one that hosted mine last 00:28:50.529 --> 00:28:55.609 year. Because it washed well over my hood. Yeah. 00:28:56.210 --> 00:29:03.920 So then we got to... Oh, next was the wading 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.140 section. I want to call it a water crossing, 00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:10.099 but it's not really a water crossing. Yeah, it's 00:29:10.099 --> 00:29:14.000 just a trench. So it's a good, what do you say, 00:29:14.099 --> 00:29:22.220 maybe like 30, 50 yard wading pass. It's pretty 00:29:22.220 --> 00:29:27.299 long. It's not crazy deep, I'd say. No. But, 00:29:27.299 --> 00:29:29.900 I mean, it's cool. You get some cool videos from 00:29:29.900 --> 00:29:33.240 it. And if you didn't want to do Connor's solo, 00:29:33.339 --> 00:29:37.160 it's a good one to do. Yep, for sure. And yeah, 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.279 I can post the videos of all of us going through 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.079 that waiting section to both the Instagram and 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.079 Facebook page if anyone's curious about any of 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.160 these trails. I think I already have videos of 00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:52.980 this on Instagram. We've got a lot of them up 00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:56.059 there that have been slowly coming in. I've been 00:29:56.059 --> 00:29:59.609 waiting on the full video dump until... after 00:29:59.609 --> 00:30:03.109 your release episode. I've been doing like two 00:30:03.109 --> 00:30:07.589 reels a day has been my number. That way I can 00:30:07.589 --> 00:30:11.349 stretch out the content for a little while. Yeah, 00:30:11.349 --> 00:30:14.349 I won't hold content until Leatherwood. Yeah, 00:30:14.349 --> 00:30:17.150 yeah. So, yeah, that was a pretty cool event 00:30:17.150 --> 00:30:21.049 or a pretty cool obstacle. And then not long 00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:24.150 after that, we come up to the best thing ever 00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:31.170 has to offer. So... How would you even describe 00:30:31.170 --> 00:30:46.410 that washed out mess? It's probably a good 300 00:30:46.410 --> 00:30:53.670 yards of gnarly off camber. And just through 00:30:53.670 --> 00:30:55.970 the main portion of it, the off camber itself 00:30:55.970 --> 00:31:01.440 is challenging enough. If you have sway bars 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.960 connected, because there's significant travel. 00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:10.819 And then the rut at the end of that, would you 00:31:10.819 --> 00:31:13.259 say that's probably, what, three foot deep? Oh, 00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:16.299 it's deeper than that. Four, almost like four 00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:18.900 or five. I'd say almost five foot, because when 00:31:18.900 --> 00:31:23.799 I dropped my tire in there, I mean, it doesn't 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.559 help that I laid the truck on its side right 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:32.880 there. So, yeah, I had two wheels in the rut 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.980 and two wheels in the air. It was great. I loved 00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:38.660 it. I loved every minute of it. It was great 00:31:38.660 --> 00:31:43.039 for the truck. It bent my mirror backwards, and 00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.619 that was about all it did, really. Because I 00:31:47.619 --> 00:31:51.500 was mostly resting on my bumpers, and those both 00:31:51.500 --> 00:31:55.079 were sanded to raw metal, for sure. But, you 00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:00.519 know. Yeah, I think I've got a picture of you 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.940 while you were on your side. And I was waiting 00:32:05.940 --> 00:32:08.619 for you to get out of that to see how bad the 00:32:08.619 --> 00:32:12.859 door panels were. I'm like, they're just going 00:32:12.859 --> 00:32:17.900 to be corn up. But props to the bumpers. They 00:32:17.900 --> 00:32:21.559 caught the weight of it. And you don't even have 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.960 any bending or denting on the bumper. It just 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.819 sanded it down to raw metal. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. 00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:30.380 And I mean, credit where it's due though. Alex 00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:33.579 does spend a lot of time on its side. Yeah. I 00:32:33.579 --> 00:32:35.859 mean, that's, that's the only way to get through 00:32:35.859 --> 00:32:37.920 skin ill. Like you need to say the thing inside 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.660 the crawler. Um, and you know, for me, never 00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:42.559 having done it, that was nerve wracking. I was 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.259 like, I can tip this thing over, but take it, 00:32:46.339 --> 00:32:48.279 you know, they really do. You know, you might 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.259 sacrifice a mirror here or that, but you didn't 00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:54.559 have a locker either. Did you Alex? No, I don't 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.339 have my locker yet. I'm still running no locker. 00:32:57.460 --> 00:32:59.440 If I had a locker, I would have made it through 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:06.460 that rut instead of bypassing it, but... I kind 00:33:06.460 --> 00:33:08.640 of wish my suspension didn't need adjustments. 00:33:08.660 --> 00:33:12.180 I would love to tackle that hill after New Year's. 00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:15.599 Dude, it's so much worse than it was at New Year's. 00:33:16.180 --> 00:33:21.279 New Year's, it was... Condition -wise, I'd say 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.220 tougher just because it was wet and... It was 00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:29.519 sloppy. But yeah, there's probably a good extra 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:33.500 foot of depth on that rut compared to New Year's. 00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.680 Because I know Busted to Built went through there, 00:33:37.819 --> 00:33:42.400 maybe following us. And then that Power Wagon 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:47.480 on 40s went back through there. And like you 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.740 said, every time we go back to that trail, it's 00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:53.150 just beat up harder and harder. I still don't 00:33:53.150 --> 00:33:55.670 understand why the video you got of me going 00:33:55.670 --> 00:33:58.930 through that, it uploaded in 360 and won't let 00:33:58.930 --> 00:34:04.329 me watch it in any other quality. The one I uploaded? 00:34:04.569 --> 00:34:08.650 Yeah. I'll see if I can upconvert and send it 00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:11.769 to you direct instead of going through the SharePoint. 00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:15.389 Yeah, Google just, actually both the videos you 00:34:15.389 --> 00:34:21.159 sent are 360. okay i'll take a look because yeah 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.400 if i can up convert that for you that was a once 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:31.119 i edited down it was a really good video yeah 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.420 there's i mean hey despite all the videography 00:34:35.420 --> 00:34:39.699 issues we had on arguably the best trail to get 00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:44.519 videos on oh my god Hey, man, I'm going to put 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.559 you in the middle. Take a video of me. Okay. 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.320 Gets a picture. A picture. At the start of the 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:57.260 trail. Yeah. He tried. It was funny. It was. 00:34:58.119 --> 00:34:59.820 And I mean, for those not looking for the adventure 00:34:59.820 --> 00:35:01.679 of the main trail, I'll, I can vouch for the 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.980 fact that even the bypass stuff, you'll definitely 00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:06.699 want to do it with full wheel drive already engaged, 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.400 which I didn't do. And I got off the trail and 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.320 realized, oh, I probably need full wheel drive. 00:35:11.900 --> 00:35:15.900 um because there is a bypass um if you go left 00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:18.079 from the entry to that you kind of go down a 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.119 hill into like a tiny little meadow and then 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.099 start climbing up the same direction that trail 00:35:22.099 --> 00:35:25.639 and about halfway you come to a tree root that 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.400 you'll definitely need a four -wheel drive to 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.519 climb when i hope uh yeah like i said not something 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.980 i realized until i hit the tree root and it's 00:35:32.980 --> 00:35:34.619 all i was like well i can't get out of this i'm 00:35:34.619 --> 00:35:37.300 going to back down the hill and yeah mark had 00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:39.860 to pull the mirror into going to lose it And, 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.059 you know, all the, you know, I have a rear disc 00:35:43.059 --> 00:35:45.059 conversion, so all the rotors are covered in, 00:35:45.099 --> 00:35:47.039 you know, sand and mud and water at that point. 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.639 So it was just me controlling, well, some level 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.239 of control just falling back down a hill. Yes. 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.300 And trying to guess where the middle of the trail 00:35:57.300 --> 00:35:59.980 was and taking off the branches. Yeah, and then, 00:36:00.019 --> 00:36:01.780 yeah, the disc goes to the bottom, and he was 00:36:01.780 --> 00:36:03.000 like, you couldn't even get it on the bypass? 00:36:03.659 --> 00:36:09.920 And I was like, no, no. So. I don't think he 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.340 fully understood that, like, your truck is very 00:36:13.340 --> 00:36:16.159 early days of build. It hasn't really made it 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:21.179 that far into a build yet. No. It's got all the 00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:25.619 roots of an awesome build, though. Here soon, 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.559 that build's going to be insane. Yes. Yep. Yeah, 00:36:30.659 --> 00:36:33.179 we just need to build both the lockers. You know, 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.719 obviously, Alec burned out, right? You know, 00:36:36.739 --> 00:36:40.400 the $70 to get Toyota's, whatever the heck, body 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:45.539 gel, stupid, like, dielectric -based. Insane. 00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:47.780 It was not a cheaper option. Well, there's one 00:36:47.780 --> 00:36:49.659 from China, and they wanted, like, $12 for all 00:36:49.659 --> 00:36:52.719 the shipping. So you're just going to have to 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.219 cough it up to the dealership if you want to 00:36:54.219 --> 00:36:58.119 rebuild your real locker. But it looks like you 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.239 can get about four or five rebuilds out of the 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.940 dielectric -based they give you. So, yeah, once 00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:06.099 we do that, we throw the suspension from the 00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:09.079 puller on. It'd be good to go. And then I just 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.719 got the F -150 fueled. Oh, did you sick? So we 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.440 stopped locking that up. Oh, nice. Yeah, I'm 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.820 sure the Amazon driver was thrilled with letting 00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:24.000 that tonight. So, yeah. See, after that trail, 00:37:24.260 --> 00:37:28.679 we went back to camp. You and I went up and down 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.900 that trail. Right. Yeah, we went up and down. 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:40.619 The disco took the bypass. Yeah. I'm surprised 00:37:40.619 --> 00:37:44.940 the disco fit down that bypass. I was looking 00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:50.079 at it. The stats are in. The disco is 74 .5 inches 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.760 wide and the Toyota 4Runner is 70 .5. Yeah, so 00:37:54.760 --> 00:38:01.059 it's a little bit wider. Barely. Barely. Hey. 00:38:02.230 --> 00:38:03.909 You can do a lot with four inches. Just ask my 00:38:03.909 --> 00:38:07.489 wife. You can. Amen. That is something that we 00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:13.610 stand on in this podcast. Yeah, so then we went 00:38:13.610 --> 00:38:18.269 back to camp, and I kind of took a nap and found 00:38:18.269 --> 00:38:22.329 three ticks in like five minutes. That was fun. 00:38:23.710 --> 00:38:30.329 There were a lot of ticks this weekend. yeah 00:38:30.329 --> 00:38:34.650 thankfully we managed to stay clear yeah yeah 00:38:34.650 --> 00:38:37.929 i didn't have any of me since we got back i haven't 00:38:37.929 --> 00:38:40.190 found any but while we were there i found a lot 00:38:40.190 --> 00:38:44.070 um yeah we took a little bit of a nap and then 00:38:44.070 --> 00:38:49.449 we went to the um what would you even call that 00:38:49.449 --> 00:38:53.789 hill climb area scramble area yeah just a scramble 00:38:53.789 --> 00:39:00.829 area they've got like a center mud pool and five 00:39:00.829 --> 00:39:05.070 six different hill climb areas there's so many 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:11.670 yeah like if you go up each route i'm counting 00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:17.570 like doing the full loop up and down as one but 00:39:17.570 --> 00:39:25.130 there's that long one that's all loose sand they 00:39:25.130 --> 00:39:28.429 both up and down and that one's pretty tight 00:39:28.429 --> 00:39:35.300 because it's Just a narrow chute. And the downhill 00:39:35.300 --> 00:39:40.440 is trickier there because you've got really loose 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.260 sand. They're just trying to sled down and trying 00:39:45.260 --> 00:39:50.199 to keep off the walls. With a turn that Joe Yamber 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:56.099 definitely broke his mirror off on. Yeah. Yeah. 00:39:57.690 --> 00:40:00.090 Let's clarify what vehicle that was. It was a 00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:04.449 Sequoia. A big ass hippo. But yeah, that area 00:40:04.449 --> 00:40:07.309 is pretty cool because it's pretty much a choose 00:40:07.309 --> 00:40:10.030 your own adventure. I could spend a few hours 00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:13.269 just hanging out there. We could honestly bring 00:40:13.269 --> 00:40:16.210 a little grill and just make our food there one 00:40:16.210 --> 00:40:19.679 day. play on the rocks i mean because that's 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.699 the other thing is it's not just sand there's 00:40:21.699 --> 00:40:23.960 a couple that are kind of rockier hill climbs 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.119 yeah there's those two hill climbs on i think 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:35.000 north side that are pretty rocky yeah and going 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.880 up or down in either direction on those ones 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.019 is a lot of fun i i had william in my lap steering 00:40:43.019 --> 00:40:47.460 for those like mostly steering i've I did a couple 00:40:47.460 --> 00:40:52.219 corrections here and there, but... The one that 00:40:52.219 --> 00:40:55.900 I... Go ahead. I was going to say that's pretty 00:40:55.900 --> 00:40:58.519 doable as well. Like, it's not technical. It's 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.199 just kind of taking time. It goes slamming through 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.480 the rocks, but, like, you know, even though I'm 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:08.619 stuck. Yeah. My favorite that I still want to 00:41:08.619 --> 00:41:11.480 tackle is that one coming in and out that's super 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:15.840 washed out with rocks. Oh, the rocks. I mean, 00:41:16.219 --> 00:41:18.659 I did the bottom part of that rock garden on 00:41:18.659 --> 00:41:24.619 the way out this time. I just, with not having 00:41:24.619 --> 00:41:26.920 a locker, I knew I couldn't get through the rest 00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:32.719 of it, so I kind of held back. It's a really 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.440 gnarly little climb. I can't wait to do it for 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.699 real. Yeah, with lockers set up, that'd be a 00:41:40.699 --> 00:41:44.239 really fun one to do. I think that's a good one 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.239 for the bucket list this year. If we get back 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.099 out there, I think we will probably. A few more 00:41:49.099 --> 00:41:50.880 that we've got off the leatherwood. It'd be cool 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:57.619 to see if we can get through that. Yeah. Yeah, 00:41:57.699 --> 00:41:59.880 and then after that, we went back to camp and 00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:03.199 had our little potluck, which... With just us, 00:42:03.420 --> 00:42:08.579 it wasn't that much of a potluck. Not much of 00:42:08.579 --> 00:42:13.320 a potluck, but the walking tacos were a clutch. 00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:18.360 Those saved me with how long mine takes to cook. 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.519 That thing that you made was amazing. It was 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.500 amazing. Dude, that is, like I said in our previous 00:42:27.500 --> 00:42:30.559 episode, that is my absolute go -to because it's... 00:42:30.969 --> 00:42:35.050 It takes a while, but it's so easy. Because I 00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:38.050 just set it directly in the fire pit, and I can 00:42:38.050 --> 00:42:42.349 hang out, have a drink, run around, shoot the 00:42:42.349 --> 00:42:46.590 shit, and half hour, 40 minutes later, it's ready 00:42:46.590 --> 00:42:52.750 to go. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, so we kind 00:42:52.750 --> 00:42:55.510 of bullshitted for a little while and then went 00:42:55.510 --> 00:42:59.030 to bed. See, how far are we? Do we want to drag 00:42:59.030 --> 00:43:01.090 these stories out a little more? No, we're at 00:43:01.090 --> 00:43:04.110 45 minutes, so we're good. Because I had to dip 00:43:04.110 --> 00:43:08.909 out. I left probably around 9 o 'clock Saturday 00:43:08.909 --> 00:43:14.130 night. Yeah. And then we got up and tore camp 00:43:14.130 --> 00:43:16.570 down. Well, we tore most of camp down Saturday 00:43:16.570 --> 00:43:20.929 night. Yeah, we took care of the campy. And then 00:43:20.929 --> 00:43:23.469 we got up and tore down the rest of it Sunday 00:43:23.469 --> 00:43:28.360 morning. loaded up and we left for rigs and coffee 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.760 at what like 10 30 10 o 'clock 10 30 somewhere 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.659 in there 10 10 10 30 it was somewhere around 00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:39.099 there um drove to wesco uh got some gas and then 00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:44.349 got on the expressway and i realized that Anything 00:43:44.349 --> 00:43:47.489 over 65, it felt like my truck was going to rattle 00:43:47.489 --> 00:43:51.110 itself to pieces. And I just assumed it was mud. 00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:55.090 So I kept going and we got to Grand Rapids and 00:43:55.090 --> 00:43:57.849 there's like this, it's not the S curves, but 00:43:57.849 --> 00:44:01.750 they're like small S curves, you know, kind of. 00:44:02.670 --> 00:44:05.869 Oh, the ones north of town? The curves by the 00:44:05.869 --> 00:44:10.599 zoo. Yeah, by the zoo. So as I was making those 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.460 turns, my truck was dancing across the lanes. 00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:21.699 And I thought that was pretty bad. So then we 00:44:21.699 --> 00:44:24.000 get to rigs and coffee, and I just kind of chalk 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.780 it up to my wheels are full of mud. Yeah, so 00:44:29.780 --> 00:44:33.579 rigs and coffee was great. It was. Yeah, it was 00:44:33.579 --> 00:44:38.280 a good turnout. And not just... In numbers, but 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.199 the people that were there were good. I mean, 00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:43.039 there are a lot of people that are just good 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.760 people to talk to and fun people to make plans 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:52.320 with. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what all even 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.079 happened. That whole day is kind of a blur to 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.400 me. Oh, we literally talked about the trailer 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.480 and everything. We were very conversational that 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.400 Sunday. Yeah, everyone seems to like the trailer. 00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:07.139 I guess we did a good job building a... An off 00:45:07.139 --> 00:45:11.360 -road trailer. I mean, it worked well this weekend. 00:45:11.619 --> 00:45:17.420 It hauled all the gear. It bounced around. Yeah, 00:45:17.420 --> 00:45:19.739 I think the pack -out kitchen was definitely 00:45:19.739 --> 00:45:25.079 a point of conversation. A lot of people came 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.559 through and checked out the kitchen and everything, 00:45:26.699 --> 00:45:29.480 the pack -out setup you got on that. Yeah, it's 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.280 a little more on the expensive side, but what 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.300 it does for just being so modular, being able 00:45:33.300 --> 00:45:36.170 to pull it apart, pack it the way you want. It 00:45:36.170 --> 00:45:39.610 did a fantastic job. It really did. A lot of 00:45:39.610 --> 00:45:43.909 people like to check it out. Yeah, I really hate 00:45:43.909 --> 00:45:46.130 Milwaukee, but they're the only ones that make 00:45:46.130 --> 00:45:50.849 a product that does what I want. Yeah. Yeah, 00:45:50.929 --> 00:45:52.869 I walked around Home Depot for a little while, 00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:55.369 and yeah, Rigid makes something similar, and 00:45:55.369 --> 00:45:57.289 maybe they have husky ones, but they're just... 00:45:57.289 --> 00:46:00.469 I mean, it's basically just a series of tubs, 00:46:00.469 --> 00:46:03.050 not sliding drawers or nothing locked into place. 00:46:03.659 --> 00:46:07.579 and if they do lock closest one that hits close 00:46:07.579 --> 00:46:10.579 to what i'm looking for but we've touched on 00:46:10.579 --> 00:46:14.699 this the locking feature and mounting is nowhere 00:46:14.699 --> 00:46:20.599 near as good the dewalt one that has either a 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:25.480 deep chest pull out or dual drawer pull out but 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:34.079 i mean just it's not as sturdy yeah So, yeah, 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:36.659 the DeWalt one, and the way they lock together, 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:38.900 they've got these two flips that come up on either 00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:42.400 side and just kind of lock in. And one of the 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.480 things that makes the packout so special is you 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.840 can buy plates that you can mount right to your 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.800 truck or trailer, and there's no strapping involved. 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.900 It just clicks in. You can't do that with anybody 00:46:54.900 --> 00:47:00.010 else. But, I mean... Whatever. I'll cough up 00:47:00.010 --> 00:47:04.849 the money for their super expensive boxes. And 00:47:04.849 --> 00:47:06.670 it worked well. Everything stayed firm on the 00:47:06.670 --> 00:47:08.309 highway, even towing that trailer, you know, 00:47:08.349 --> 00:47:12.849 like it probably probably like an hour, hour 00:47:12.849 --> 00:47:14.789 and 15 minutes to get up there from your place, 00:47:14.829 --> 00:47:16.429 Alex, and then probably an hour and a half to 00:47:16.429 --> 00:47:19.889 two hours back down and nothing. Well, no. Okay. 00:47:19.929 --> 00:47:26.170 One of the, one of the answers. It was not secured. 00:47:27.489 --> 00:47:29.150 It was not no and that was of all the things 00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:32.449 you could have lost. I think that was But it 00:47:32.449 --> 00:47:34.570 held fun. Yeah, nothing really shut loose. Nothing 00:47:34.570 --> 00:47:36.110 came off You don't have to pull over the side 00:47:36.110 --> 00:47:38.369 of the highway and rock last three lanes of traffic 00:47:38.369 --> 00:47:40.449 picking up tools and sockets and things like 00:47:40.449 --> 00:47:44.090 that. So Yeah, you pack up the outside of a trailer 00:47:44.090 --> 00:47:47.610 it works I felt really bad for those side -by 00:47:47.610 --> 00:47:49.929 -sides that were in the scramble area. We just 00:47:49.929 --> 00:47:53.489 walk up, skunk hat, matching Hawaiian shirts 00:47:53.489 --> 00:47:56.909 that are gaudy as hell. Like, we had to have 00:47:56.909 --> 00:47:59.469 looked like the biggest fucking goobers, dude. 00:48:00.269 --> 00:48:07.510 Oh, yeah. And our campsite. That one side -by 00:48:07.510 --> 00:48:10.909 -side, though, that little mini quad one. Yeah, 00:48:10.909 --> 00:48:16.409 that thing's cool. Awesome. Yeah. It was a wild 00:48:16.409 --> 00:48:19.090 -looking thing. It was almost like a single -seated 00:48:19.090 --> 00:48:21.829 quad with almost like a hand built onto it. It's 00:48:21.829 --> 00:48:24.489 almost like if you took just a regular four -wheeler 00:48:24.489 --> 00:48:27.630 and just ducked it side -by -side. It had pedals 00:48:27.630 --> 00:48:32.349 and a steering wheel. Yeah. It did. It probably 00:48:32.349 --> 00:48:34.150 had a lot of get -up -and -go. I saw him trying 00:48:34.150 --> 00:48:36.170 to turn around on the hill, and it was a pretty 00:48:36.170 --> 00:48:40.130 undramatic series of events. I don't know what 00:48:40.130 --> 00:48:41.909 the top speed in that thing was, but it was like 00:48:41.909 --> 00:48:48.590 a mobility skid. It was cool, either way. Let's 00:48:48.590 --> 00:48:51.949 see. Yeah, I don't know, man. My truck's still 00:48:51.949 --> 00:48:59.590 broken, so I can't go over 35. Anyone else have 00:48:59.590 --> 00:49:05.929 anything fun come up since then? Well, mine isn't 00:49:05.929 --> 00:49:13.019 from this excursion, but... We did find out that 00:49:13.019 --> 00:49:20.659 I'm missing a bushing. Yeah. Core support bushing 00:49:20.659 --> 00:49:26.099 is just gone. Yeah. No bolt, nothing. No bolt. 00:49:26.460 --> 00:49:29.619 Bushing's just hanging out there. Like whoever 00:49:29.619 --> 00:49:35.760 installed it did not finish it. No. It's like 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:39.409 they popped the bushing into place. and said, 00:49:39.550 --> 00:49:42.090 nah, it's time to go to bed. I'll do that tomorrow. 00:49:42.369 --> 00:49:46.449 And then went on to the next. And your bumper 00:49:46.449 --> 00:49:53.090 is only bolted on one side with one bolt. Yeah. 00:49:55.670 --> 00:49:59.750 No front pulls for Shane, guys. No front pulls 00:49:59.750 --> 00:50:05.090 for Shane. Well, just on the outer wings of it, 00:50:05.110 --> 00:50:08.739 it's missing. The core of the bumper is solidly 00:50:08.739 --> 00:50:13.480 mounted, but the outer mounts, only one's there. 00:50:14.460 --> 00:50:17.199 Yeah, we definitely got a... So center pulls 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.280 only. Well, and the thing is that the bolts that's 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.039 missing on your passenger side, that goes through 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:29.559 to the frame. That bolts the core of your bumper 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:35.360 to the frame. Yeah. So... Yeah, it's that whole 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.559 situation. We got to rectify it. That's not cool. 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.219 Yeah, that's going to be a Friday project for 00:50:41.219 --> 00:50:46.420 sure. Yeah, I mean, other than that, I have a 00:50:46.420 --> 00:50:49.639 lower control arm here. It came today. So this 00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:51.860 weekend I'll be fixing that, and hopefully that 00:50:51.860 --> 00:50:56.019 fixes my shaking. I'll be putting my new rear 00:50:56.019 --> 00:51:01.349 bumper on. My little brother's going to do his 00:51:01.349 --> 00:51:04.409 breaks on his Tacoma at my house this weekend. 00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:09.489 And Duncan has all sorts of stuff to do. It's 00:51:09.489 --> 00:51:13.349 going to be a busy weekend. I'll put the brake 00:51:13.349 --> 00:51:16.329 lines around, start mucking up the fuel tank. 00:51:16.550 --> 00:51:19.210 I want to sound dead in the passenger compartment. 00:51:20.570 --> 00:51:26.349 I'm taking the GC8 down to visit the first spring 00:51:26.349 --> 00:51:29.849 opener for the Subaru season in Lansing. So I'm 00:51:29.849 --> 00:51:33.489 gonna go check that out Saturday. So yeah, I'm 00:51:33.489 --> 00:51:34.869 not gonna be doing any off -road obstacles or 00:51:34.869 --> 00:51:36.289 anything like that. So I'm not gonna let that 00:51:36.289 --> 00:51:39.389 break anything. Yeah. I think we already established 00:51:39.389 --> 00:51:41.269 that the hottest vehicle we faced last weekend 00:51:41.269 --> 00:51:47.449 was a US 131. Yeah. Definitely gave us a run 00:51:47.449 --> 00:51:50.230 for our money. Died in traffic. Yep. It was the 00:51:50.230 --> 00:51:55.429 daily driving aspect. Yeah. I'll tell you, turning 00:51:55.429 --> 00:51:57.869 that corner and my truck just dancing across 00:51:57.869 --> 00:52:04.030 two lanes, I was like, oh, God. Driving back 00:52:04.030 --> 00:52:06.610 to reality. It's not normally like that, so I 00:52:06.610 --> 00:52:13.429 know something's wrong. It's fixable, though. 00:52:13.489 --> 00:52:16.630 You should be able to figure it out. I'm at the 00:52:16.630 --> 00:52:18.590 point now where it's either lower control arm 00:52:18.590 --> 00:52:23.630 bushings. That's really all I think can cause 00:52:23.630 --> 00:52:26.650 the problem I'm having, so I'm hoping that that 00:52:26.650 --> 00:52:33.869 fixes it. But, yeah, that was our third gen weekend. 00:52:34.969 --> 00:52:37.989 We'll do another one next year, probably. I liked 00:52:37.989 --> 00:52:39.869 doing it in April. I think that was way better 00:52:39.869 --> 00:52:43.190 than August. Yeah. I think it was, too. For the 00:52:43.190 --> 00:52:45.909 camping aspect, it was a lot more enjoyable because 00:52:45.909 --> 00:52:48.849 we weren't just killing ourselves in the heat. 00:52:49.190 --> 00:52:52.860 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like camping in the summer 00:52:52.860 --> 00:52:56.400 too, but it was really nice camping in April. 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.679 Yeah, like the campsite wasn't overgrown at all. 00:53:00.940 --> 00:53:04.039 Yeah, I brought weed whacker and whatnot so we 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.199 could clear up if we needed, but yeah, we didn't 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:13.199 have a single issue. No. No, we worked out well 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.460 for the third gen too. The best time to take 00:53:15.460 --> 00:53:17.280 them wheeling is when you're early in the season 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:18.820 and they haven't actually been out yet. Had a 00:53:18.820 --> 00:53:21.349 chance to break. So you leave it to the end of 00:53:21.349 --> 00:53:22.849 the summer and you do a bunch of trails beforehand 00:53:22.849 --> 00:53:25.949 and then hang it on by a thread that you start 00:53:25.949 --> 00:53:30.590 to break stuff. Yeah. Do it before the main trip 00:53:30.590 --> 00:53:33.570 for the year. I know. Yeah, we'll be crossing 00:53:33.570 --> 00:53:35.329 fingers and toes when we go down to Leatherwood. 00:53:35.429 --> 00:53:37.789 Yeah, because, I mean, it's eight or nine hours 00:53:37.789 --> 00:53:40.630 to get there and eight or nine bags to go on 00:53:40.630 --> 00:53:43.030 the breaded highway again. I don't know if you 00:53:43.030 --> 00:53:45.409 guys saw, but they started following botches 00:53:45.409 --> 00:53:49.159 off -road on... Instagram today. Oh, did they? 00:53:49.539 --> 00:53:52.619 Yeah. So that was kind of cool. They want to 00:53:52.619 --> 00:53:54.079 figure out what kind of recovery you had to have 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.639 on site, and we showed up. Yeah, make sure the 00:53:57.639 --> 00:53:59.780 skid steer's ready. You're going to need a winch. 00:53:59.820 --> 00:54:03.320 The helicopter. Yeah. Oh, should we call the 00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.119 off -road wrecker? Yeah, get the paramedics on 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:06.920 standby. Yeah, one of these idiots is going to 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:08.800 roll it over and cop with the way that drones 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:10.039 do this thing. They're definitely going to get 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.019 into an accident. I think the drone's probably 00:54:12.019 --> 00:54:13.480 trying to get their lawyers involved, too, making 00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:14.980 sure they've got enough insurance on the place, 00:54:15.019 --> 00:54:17.239 too. You know, looking at the list of people 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:19.739 going, I think that we're the only ones with 00:54:19.739 --> 00:54:24.900 third -gen forerunners, me and you, Duncan. Man, 00:54:24.900 --> 00:54:29.179 well, when does sign -up officially close for 00:54:29.179 --> 00:54:30.960 that, or does it kind of open up until the very 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.639 end? I have no idea. I kind of feel like they 00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.900 should have closed it by now. I think he said 00:54:37.900 --> 00:54:40.659 something about send the email in, if you haven't 00:54:40.659 --> 00:54:42.719 already. Yeah, I know. I saw it this week. He 00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:47.489 pushed, like, the last blast on it. If you haven't, 00:54:47.489 --> 00:54:51.110 get it to me now because it should be closed 00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:54.789 down soon here. Yeah, so if you have a third 00:54:54.789 --> 00:54:56.829 -gen 4Runner and you'd like to come along to 00:54:56.829 --> 00:55:00.469 Leatherwood and join the crew and maybe break 00:55:00.469 --> 00:55:03.690 a vehicle, then sign up. Get involved. We can 00:55:03.690 --> 00:55:05.769 send you the info on Instagram or wherever else 00:55:05.769 --> 00:55:08.070 you might be able to find us. Yeah, it'll be 00:55:08.070 --> 00:55:10.269 fun. I'm really excited for that trip. I am too. 00:55:10.469 --> 00:55:16.920 Yeah, I'm bummed I can't do that one. Yeah. The 00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:20.059 darn Navy. I was going to say the Army, but in 00:55:20.059 --> 00:55:23.380 your case, it's not the Army. No, it's still 00:55:23.380 --> 00:55:26.400 the green weenie, though. It always wins. If 00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:27.800 there's one thing I've seen in Mr. Crestle, the 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:29.440 military branches, it's their ability to screw 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:33.980 you. Wouldn't yours be the blue weenie? No, we 00:55:33.980 --> 00:55:38.579 don't wear blue anymore. Really? Like, when you're 00:55:38.579 --> 00:55:39.619 on a ship, you wear... I mean, we've got dress 00:55:39.619 --> 00:55:43.130 blues. Yeah, coveralls, but... I was going to 00:55:43.130 --> 00:55:44.750 say, when you're on a ship, you wear green? That's 00:55:44.750 --> 00:55:47.610 weird. What's the Navy uniform even look like? 00:55:48.309 --> 00:55:54.409 Type 3s. NWU Type 3s. That's pretty similar to 00:55:54.409 --> 00:55:58.969 MARPAT, but color is different. Wow, that is 00:55:58.969 --> 00:56:07.570 really ugly. I mean, look at me. You know, I... 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:13.659 Yeah, you can't talk with your ACUs back in your 00:56:13.659 --> 00:56:16.539 day. I say, we don't wear ACUs anymore. We wear 00:56:16.539 --> 00:56:21.659 OCP ACUs, and they're beautiful. No, I really 00:56:21.659 --> 00:56:23.840 liked the blue uniforms you guys had, though. 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:27.460 Oh, the blueberries? When did they phase those 00:56:27.460 --> 00:56:32.099 out? We had those when I started. We phased those 00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:39.869 out probably... 19? 18, 19 would have been when 00:56:39.869 --> 00:56:43.110 I transitioned over to the Type 3s. That was 00:56:43.110 --> 00:56:45.849 a bad choice. That was like an iconic uniform. 00:56:47.090 --> 00:56:49.869 Well, it made absolutely no sense because the 00:56:49.869 --> 00:56:52.269 only place it would make sense would be on ship, 00:56:52.389 --> 00:56:57.769 and we don't wear those on ship. That and being 00:56:57.769 --> 00:57:01.070 a welder, they're non -flame retardant. Right. 00:57:01.630 --> 00:57:05.250 So anytime I wanted a new set of uniforms, I 00:57:05.250 --> 00:57:07.059 would just... I'm like, all right, it's time 00:57:07.059 --> 00:57:10.079 to do some, like, porch cutting and put my legs 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:14.980 underneath. What? Just bark the hell out of them 00:57:14.980 --> 00:57:17.980 and be like, oh, I can't wear this uniform anymore. 00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:23.059 They made us by our own, so. Give me new ones. 00:57:23.980 --> 00:57:27.469 But. On that note, before we turn into the Every 00:57:27.469 --> 00:57:31.570 Military Uniform Sucks podcast. Yeah, the Stalty 00:57:31.570 --> 00:57:36.769 Veterans podcast. I would dip out. So, well, 00:57:36.869 --> 00:57:39.110 I hope you guys enjoyed this kind of chaotic 00:57:39.110 --> 00:57:42.329 little episode. I'm sorry that we didn't give 00:57:42.329 --> 00:57:45.389 you a Friday wrap, but I hope this Tuesday wrap 00:57:45.389 --> 00:57:48.409 makes up for it. So we'll catch you guys later. 00:57:50.429 --> 00:58:08.739 Later. On to the next one. We're going with doors 00:58:08.739 --> 00:58:16.079 open Flying down the west coast drive She said 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:21.760 I can't focus Taught her you could take it tough