WEBVTT 00:00:15.460 --> 00:00:18.179 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:18.179 --> 00:00:20.280 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:22.859 tent camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:22.859 --> 00:00:26.300 to do with the outdoors. So it's just going to 00:00:26.300 --> 00:00:31.579 be a small, little smallie episode today. It's 00:00:31.579 --> 00:00:34.359 just me and Alex on this one. I kind of signed 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:38.140 on a little late. Been busy running and doing 00:00:38.140 --> 00:00:44.820 stuff on my one day off a week. It works out 00:00:44.820 --> 00:00:46.439 good for the listener, though, because they were 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:48.479 just going to get an episode from Alex saying, 00:00:48.700 --> 00:00:52.640 hey, sorry we missed doing an episode this week. 00:00:53.140 --> 00:00:55.579 Tune in on Tuesday. But now they get some content. 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:00.679 Yeah. Well, so I guess I should explain why he 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:05.140 wasn't even on the last one. I would say something 00:01:05.140 --> 00:01:08.079 like that. I don't even remember, actually. No. 00:01:08.340 --> 00:01:10.519 I have no idea what it was. I think I had the 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:13.150 kid. Your kid was sick, and there was no one 00:01:13.150 --> 00:01:16.269 to watch him. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Something's 00:01:16.269 --> 00:01:18.950 sick. This is the first time I haven't been sick 00:01:18.950 --> 00:01:21.629 in a long time. Trying to stay away from all 00:01:21.629 --> 00:01:26.409 that. But, nope, this week I missed it because 00:01:26.409 --> 00:01:31.909 I got a bug up my ass, and with my plans coming 00:01:31.909 --> 00:01:35.790 up, I decided I wanted to put my Princey rack 00:01:35.790 --> 00:01:39.900 on finally. It was a nice enough day, so... I 00:01:39.900 --> 00:01:42.159 went and grabbed my heavy -ass box, brought it 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:46.700 out, started ripping everything off of my old 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:50.180 rack, which was surprisingly more annoying than 00:01:50.180 --> 00:01:54.719 I thought it was going to be. Got all that stuff, 00:01:54.980 --> 00:01:59.879 like the Pelican box off with all the junk in 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:07.549 it. Got the jack off. Jack off. Got the... I 00:02:07.549 --> 00:02:10.349 got something you can jack off. Oh, no, no, no, 00:02:10.370 --> 00:02:16.169 no, no. No, no, no, no. We got the pooper tent 00:02:16.169 --> 00:02:21.810 off. I had to take my Wii Boost off, which I 00:02:21.810 --> 00:02:23.610 honestly just grinded the bolts off of that. 00:02:25.229 --> 00:02:27.710 It was just being an ass, and I was just like, 00:02:27.770 --> 00:02:30.629 I'm not dealing with it. I have extra. So cut 00:02:30.629 --> 00:02:36.000 the bolts off that and took my... God, what are 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.599 they called? The brush risers? Limb risers. Oh, 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:46.800 my God. It's been a day, man. Took those off, 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:51.460 and then I started getting the rack off, and 00:02:51.460 --> 00:02:54.159 I've never tried to do anything with this rack, 00:02:54.259 --> 00:02:57.879 so it took a, I think it was a 6mm Allen head, 00:02:57.979 --> 00:03:01.139 but, of course, every angle that you tried to 00:03:01.139 --> 00:03:07.360 get this Allen head in, To take it off, you couldn't 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.400 use a drill or anything because the rack folded 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.800 out, you know, over it. And the rack was so flimsy 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.419 that the rack itself actually bent inwards, and 00:03:17.419 --> 00:03:19.680 I didn't know that until I was taking it off. 00:03:20.460 --> 00:03:23.180 So I'm glad I got a new one because that was 00:03:23.180 --> 00:03:29.879 not going to hold a rooftop tent. So I hand unscrewed 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:38.919 all... 12 of the Allen bolts and got that off, 00:03:39.099 --> 00:03:44.979 got all the leftover RTV out of there, picked 00:03:44.979 --> 00:03:47.099 up the rack and scratched the shit out of my 00:03:47.099 --> 00:03:50.120 roof, my princy rack, trying to get that on there 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.159 because that thing's actually heavier than it 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.180 looks, all assembled and whatnot, and started 00:03:57.180 --> 00:04:00.259 getting that fitted. You assembled it on the 00:04:00.259 --> 00:04:02.639 ground? Yeah, that's how they recommend to do 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.460 it. Oh, man, I totally would have done it on 00:04:05.460 --> 00:04:08.139 the roof. Well, I would have had to stand on 00:04:08.139 --> 00:04:10.240 the steps the whole time, and there was a lot 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.259 of, like, fitment stuff that... I'll be honest, 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.379 I think it would have been easier just picking 00:04:15.379 --> 00:04:18.639 it up and putting it up there. I was so much, 00:04:18.699 --> 00:04:23.500 like... Like, I had to leave all the screws loose 00:04:23.500 --> 00:04:28.000 and all the bolts loose, and then when I finally 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.680 got it up there... You know, until I got everything 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.759 together. Yeah. And then once I put it up there, 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.720 I could, like, tighten everything down, but it 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:41.000 was just a pain in the ass. Got a bunch of RTVs, 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:46.500 threw it all over the places I scraped off, then 00:04:46.500 --> 00:04:51.399 threw the back brackets on and bolted everything 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:54.620 down, and I thought I was good. Got down and 00:04:54.620 --> 00:04:57.740 realized that the rack was all the way to the 00:04:57.740 --> 00:05:00.720 right. hanging off the right a little bit because 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:09.100 they're slotted. So I untightened all of those 00:05:09.100 --> 00:05:12.360 bolts again, shifted them, waited for Sienna 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.860 to get home, which she was on her way home anyway, 00:05:14.939 --> 00:05:17.879 picking up the kid. And so she eyeballed it. 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.660 So if anybody sees my rack and says that it's 00:05:20.660 --> 00:05:26.100 off a little bit, it's on Sienna. So tighten 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:31.500 it back down. Got my Wii Boost on there. I had 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:33.579 to switch the mount around a little bit to get 00:05:33.579 --> 00:05:38.000 it to actually fit in the slotted rack with the 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:43.240 cross beams, cross bars. Mm -hmm. And got that 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.399 installed pretty easily with some leftover bolts. 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:48.139 Princey was pretty cool about giving, like, four 00:05:48.139 --> 00:05:52.180 extra bolts for everything. Nuts, washers, everything. 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:56.629 Good. I was actually pretty impressed. The only 00:05:56.629 --> 00:05:58.970 thing that they didn't do is any kind of install 00:05:58.970 --> 00:06:02.529 manual. Actually, I had to look that up, which 00:06:02.529 --> 00:06:06.629 wasn't a big deal, but I was definitely kind 00:06:06.629 --> 00:06:08.689 of guessing at first and then decided to just 00:06:08.689 --> 00:06:12.350 go on YouTube. They have an install video of 00:06:12.350 --> 00:06:19.730 it. Yeah, I got the Wii Boost on. Got my Chase 00:06:19.730 --> 00:06:23.139 Lights re... I don't even want to talk about 00:06:23.139 --> 00:06:27.259 how stupid I put them on before, but let's just 00:06:27.259 --> 00:06:30.180 say I had to cut the wires and then reconnect 00:06:30.180 --> 00:06:34.680 them. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, I had them underneath, 00:06:34.779 --> 00:06:39.399 and there was no way for me to... There's no 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.920 way around it, so it was okay. I mean, it allowed 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.120 me to clean it up a little bit. I had some big 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.579 heat shrink tubes that I wanted to put on anyway, 00:06:47.699 --> 00:06:52.000 so I reconnected them, heat shrinked. um, the 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.319 connections again, and then use some tape to 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.579 clean up that a little bit. And, uh, cool enough, 00:06:58.660 --> 00:07:03.779 the wire running to the chase lights, because 00:07:03.779 --> 00:07:08.639 those cross, um, yeah, those fucking cross beams, 00:07:08.740 --> 00:07:12.660 bars or whatever are slotted on every, you know, 00:07:12.699 --> 00:07:16.560 every side. I can actually tuck the wire into 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:21.740 the slot, um, which hit it pretty well. it actually 00:07:21.740 --> 00:07:24.300 looked pretty pretty neat by the time i was done 00:07:24.300 --> 00:07:27.500 with it despite how fast i was just bullshitting 00:07:27.500 --> 00:07:31.240 through it so yeah got that on took some pictures 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:36.060 of it um it's looking really good and uh went 00:07:36.060 --> 00:07:42.399 on a test drive and the seems like it's not i 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.180 don't know it seems like it's diverting air a 00:07:44.180 --> 00:07:47.709 lot better so i do like the fact that the It's 00:07:47.709 --> 00:07:49.829 got a wind deflector with, like, a rubber seal 00:07:49.829 --> 00:07:53.850 that rests on the roof, so it's pretty nice. 00:07:54.649 --> 00:07:57.269 Yeah, it looks good, man. I'm looking at pictures 00:07:57.269 --> 00:08:01.970 right now, and I'll be honest, the old roof rack 00:08:01.970 --> 00:08:05.810 was better. Just kidding. Yeah. I mean, it was 00:08:05.810 --> 00:08:08.810 actually a lower profile, to be honest, but that's 00:08:08.810 --> 00:08:13.209 not a big deal. No, it looks good. Yeah, it's 00:08:13.209 --> 00:08:16.540 a lot sturdier. I mean, a lot sturdier. I'll 00:08:16.540 --> 00:08:20.459 be, I was a hundred percent surprised when I 00:08:20.459 --> 00:08:23.860 went to take the rack off and the, my side rails, 00:08:23.939 --> 00:08:27.420 like the left and right side rail were bent in. 00:08:28.259 --> 00:08:32.799 So, uh, yeah, that was not gonna, I'm glad that 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:34.779 I did it because it was not going to support 00:08:34.779 --> 00:08:37.860 the weight of all of us and whatever else I decided 00:08:37.860 --> 00:08:42.120 to put up there. So yeah, all in all good. Um, 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:48.480 Got my battery in from EcoFlow. Nice. Nice. This 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.679 weekend, and that's all good to go. So fridge 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:59.100 is all charged up, ready. What else? I think 00:08:59.100 --> 00:09:01.539 that's about it. And then, yeah, I'm just trying 00:09:01.539 --> 00:09:05.840 to get everything ready for this weekend. We're 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.779 probably going to go around either Fife Lake 00:09:07.779 --> 00:09:11.200 or Grayling. I know Derek from Men's State Tours 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.929 had some. Had some places around Grayling, like 00:09:15.929 --> 00:09:20.570 Spring Kids Camp. Grayling is like shut down 00:09:20.570 --> 00:09:23.549 still. It's straight up no -go right now. Yeah. 00:09:23.889 --> 00:09:26.070 Well, I was thinking about it, and I'm like, 00:09:26.129 --> 00:09:28.210 I got four batteries, but this is just supposed 00:09:28.210 --> 00:09:31.090 to be kind of a shakedown weekend for us, so 00:09:31.090 --> 00:09:34.870 I'm probably just going to go to Fife Lake. Well, 00:09:35.649 --> 00:09:37.769 it's in that area. That's the same place we did 00:09:37.769 --> 00:09:40.009 the cryptid hunt, and we camp around there more 00:09:40.009 --> 00:09:44.360 often than anywhere else, really. Go up to ever. 00:09:44.700 --> 00:09:49.799 It's close. It's beautiful. No, I want to take. 00:09:51.500 --> 00:09:55.320 So I think it was last year that or the year 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.480 before my buddy Hayden, who I've known for pride 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:02.679 now, probably 16 years. First time I've seen 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.659 him in five or five or six years almost. You 00:10:06.659 --> 00:10:09.360 know, he had a baby, then I had a baby. Just 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.399 been busy. He's down in Tennessee. He drove all 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:16.740 the way up here, met me at my house, and then 00:10:16.740 --> 00:10:19.960 drove a couple hours back up to Traverse City 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.720 area. And we went to one of our old camping spots 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.559 we used to go, you know, as kids when we were 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.360 back in high school. And it was a beautiful, 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:33.980 beautiful camp spot on the Manistee. I wanted 00:10:33.980 --> 00:10:35.820 to take Sienna up there. She always mentioned 00:10:35.820 --> 00:10:39.899 how beautiful it was and was jealous that he 00:10:39.899 --> 00:10:45.600 got to go and she didn't. Yeah, I got you. What? 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:52.559 Isn't Fife Lake shut down right now too? I don't 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:58.639 know. I don't think so. Fife Lake's west of Grayling, 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:00.879 so it's just north of Cadillac a little bit. 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:03.700 I don't think it is. It's up by Traverse City. 00:11:04.500 --> 00:11:08.279 Yeah, it's about 30 minutes, I want to say southeast. 00:11:10.779 --> 00:11:13.639 Because it's in Grand Traverse County. Yeah. 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:19.980 If it is, that would suck, but we'll still find 00:11:19.980 --> 00:11:25.679 something, man. Yeah. I would just look into 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:27.799 that before you go up there. Yeah, there might 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:31.059 be a burn ban, which I haven't gotten that. It's 00:11:31.059 --> 00:11:32.879 on my list, but I haven't gotten that propane 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.200 fire pit yet. That was going to be probably my 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.220 next purchase. I'm too broke to think about next 00:11:40.220 --> 00:11:44.519 purchases. Well, give me a really quick rundown 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:53.169 on what went good and what went bad for... Third 00:11:53.169 --> 00:11:56.690 gen. I mean, as far as just your camping setup, 00:11:56.809 --> 00:12:00.330 I guess. I'll listen to the episode, but I just 00:12:00.330 --> 00:12:02.950 want to hear as far as equipment goes. What were 00:12:02.950 --> 00:12:05.389 you like, hey, this is fucking great. And then 00:12:05.389 --> 00:12:07.649 you're like, okay, maybe I need to improve a 00:12:07.649 --> 00:12:10.409 little bit on something. Everything was fucking 00:12:10.409 --> 00:12:16.370 great. Everything was at hand. Oh, well, okay. 00:12:16.830 --> 00:12:19.429 I was going to say, be critical. We didn't get 00:12:19.429 --> 00:12:22.809 into this in the main episode, so I guess that's 00:12:22.809 --> 00:12:26.529 beneficial. The cheap toilet tent that I bought 00:12:26.529 --> 00:12:30.950 is not the best option. Okay. It's kind of a 00:12:30.950 --> 00:12:35.610 bitch and a half to fold up. Is it one of those, 00:12:35.610 --> 00:12:39.750 like, pop -out ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. 00:12:39.870 --> 00:12:42.629 So, I mean, that's annoying, but it's not the 00:12:42.629 --> 00:12:45.169 end of the world. I mean, when you set it up, 00:12:45.230 --> 00:12:47.009 I mean, you just kind of left it and it was good. 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:50.740 Yeah, once it's up, it's fine. It's putting it 00:12:50.740 --> 00:12:54.299 away that sucks. Right. And it seemed to kind 00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:56.740 of hold the smell. Oh, that's the other thing. 00:12:56.779 --> 00:12:59.340 So I bought a trash can to put the poo in because, 00:12:59.580 --> 00:13:02.179 you know, to hide it and make it not look disgusting. 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:06.080 Yeah. Heavily recommend doing that, by the way. 00:13:06.220 --> 00:13:09.279 But you need to be able to strap that pop -up 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.139 trash can to your roof somewhere so it can air 00:13:12.139 --> 00:13:14.460 out because that will hold the smell for a long 00:13:14.460 --> 00:13:17.889 time. Yeah, that's one thing I do love about 00:13:17.889 --> 00:13:21.590 having that little kangaroo bag on the back of 00:13:21.590 --> 00:13:25.070 my trash bag on the back of my tire. So then, 00:13:25.669 --> 00:13:30.309 yeah, other than that, the toilet that you recommended 00:13:30.309 --> 00:13:33.809 I hate, but other than that, it was fine. The 00:13:33.809 --> 00:13:37.490 one I recommended, the one that I had? Yeah, 00:13:37.570 --> 00:13:40.049 the one that you have, yeah, I hate it. You do? 00:13:40.710 --> 00:13:44.490 Yeah, it's terrible. What's wrong with it? It 00:13:44.490 --> 00:13:47.809 doesn't fold up small enough. Oh, okay. Well, 00:13:47.990 --> 00:13:52.049 that's, yeah. I'm thinking like, I'm like, dude, 00:13:52.169 --> 00:13:54.870 this thing's comfortable. It's sturdy. No, it's 00:13:54.870 --> 00:13:57.049 literally fine. It just doesn't fold up small 00:13:57.049 --> 00:13:59.830 enough. I get that. And again, that's something 00:13:59.830 --> 00:14:03.570 I keep in my kangaroo pouch or whatever you call 00:14:03.570 --> 00:14:07.190 it. But I've looked at a couple different ones, 00:14:07.409 --> 00:14:12.110 and they're plastic. I know. Hear me out. But 00:14:12.110 --> 00:14:14.500 they have higher. They have higher weight ratings 00:14:14.500 --> 00:14:17.539 than what the one that you have does. Like this 00:14:17.539 --> 00:14:20.539 one, which is just the one where the plastic 00:14:20.539 --> 00:14:22.840 goes around the seat and then it folds up into 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.600 a small compact. It's weight rated for like 600 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.539 pounds. I know, this stuff just makes me nervous. 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.039 Like I wanted something that I knew if I could 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:34.000 rock around on a little bit as I'm trying to 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:40.360 pray to Jesus, you know. I'm thinking worst case 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.620 scenario, I got, you know. I got my shirt off 00:14:43.620 --> 00:14:46.980 because it's that bad. My goal is to be able 00:14:46.980 --> 00:14:52.000 to put it in a packout. Yeah, yeah. It'd be cool 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.259 to have all your toiletries in a packout, actually, 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.000 to just throw it all in one. That's what we were 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.899 talking about is right now we have a packout 00:14:59.899 --> 00:15:02.419 that all of our individual camp stuff goes in. 00:15:02.460 --> 00:15:05.500 So each of us have a packout with our tent, our 00:15:05.500 --> 00:15:08.820 sleeping pad, our pillow. And I can fit my chair 00:15:08.820 --> 00:15:11.279 in there. They can't. But still, pretty much 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.700 all of our campsite stuff can go in one packout, 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:17.220 right? I would love to do another one for the 00:15:17.220 --> 00:15:20.759 toilet. And then we've got a kitchen packout 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.240 stack. So literally, we get to camp. We set the 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.279 packouts at each spot we're going to set up that 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:29.940 tent. And it's just all there, ready to go. Yeah. 00:15:31.019 --> 00:15:33.460 Yeah, that is pretty cool. I've seen a picture 00:15:33.460 --> 00:15:36.759 of you guys' packouts near each tent. Or each, 00:15:36.860 --> 00:15:39.399 like, cot with a tent on it. Like, is that what 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.340 it was? It was like a cot with a tent on it? 00:15:41.940 --> 00:15:44.759 Yeah, it's the military cot with the Light Fighter 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.980 tent on top. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Yeah, 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.220 it worked great. Is that single person? Those 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:55.179 ones are. They do have a Light Fighter 2, which 00:15:55.179 --> 00:15:59.279 is a four -season tent. It's got what's called 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:02.059 a wind jacket that goes over top of it to turn 00:16:02.059 --> 00:16:06.200 it into a winter tent. That's a two. That's a 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:11.059 two -person. It's $600. Holy shit. It is hands 00:16:11.059 --> 00:16:14.440 down the absolute best quality tent you can buy. 00:16:16.700 --> 00:16:19.460 Nemo doesn't get close to it if that tells you 00:16:19.460 --> 00:16:24.220 the level of quality. Hmm. Now, the benefit with 00:16:24.220 --> 00:16:29.840 Nemo is the weight of a Nemo tent is way lighter 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.389 than a Lightfighter. but the quality of a light 00:16:34.389 --> 00:16:36.830 fighter and the speed of setup on a light fighter 00:16:36.830 --> 00:16:41.789 is way faster. Yeah. I think my Nemo is like 00:16:41.789 --> 00:16:46.309 a, I think it's like four pounds. Yeah. Whereas 00:16:46.309 --> 00:16:50.090 the light fighter two with all of it, with the 00:16:50.090 --> 00:16:54.950 winter wind jammer, it's like 13 or 14 pounds. 00:16:55.590 --> 00:16:59.049 Yeah. Well, I originally bought the Nemo for, 00:16:59.149 --> 00:17:01.669 like, backpacking and stuff, but it's turned 00:17:01.669 --> 00:17:05.029 out to be a really nice, quick setup two -person 00:17:05.029 --> 00:17:09.109 tent for just one -nighters. I actually forgot 00:17:09.109 --> 00:17:13.049 you had a Nemo. Mm -hmm. Yeah, I have the Nemo 00:17:13.049 --> 00:17:17.890 Dagger. It's two -person. And honestly, it's 00:17:17.890 --> 00:17:20.910 been fucking fantastic. I haven't had any issues, 00:17:20.970 --> 00:17:23.849 complaints. The other cool thing about the Light 00:17:23.849 --> 00:17:27.289 Fighter tents, which... I've got to find where 00:17:27.289 --> 00:17:30.910 to get the wind jacket. But if you get them on 00:17:30.910 --> 00:17:34.589 eBay and they're GI issued, then they're made 00:17:34.589 --> 00:17:37.450 here in the US. If you get them off their website, 00:17:37.690 --> 00:17:40.349 then they were made overseas. So you can actually 00:17:40.349 --> 00:17:43.509 get a US made tent through Light Fighter, which 00:17:43.509 --> 00:17:47.490 is no one else really has that. Yeah, it's nice. 00:17:48.069 --> 00:17:51.150 That's why the price is so much higher. But I've 00:17:51.150 --> 00:17:54.579 seen. I just saw Light Fighter 2 go for $2 .85 00:17:54.579 --> 00:17:57.839 today. Oh. And if I'd been paying attention, 00:17:58.059 --> 00:18:01.359 I totally would have bought it. Oh, yeah. You 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:07.420 know. Yeah. Well, what did you guys eat? Wait, 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:13.400 was it just the guys? Yeah, we did, like, walking 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:16.240 tacos and whatever that thing that Shane makes 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.900 is. We talk about it in the big episode. Oh, 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.200 yeah. Well, I was just curious because I'll listen 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.460 to it, but I was just curious what the menu was. 00:18:26.619 --> 00:18:28.779 I think I'm just going to do cheapo stuff this 00:18:28.779 --> 00:18:32.380 weekend. Try to keep it as cheap as possible. 00:18:32.980 --> 00:18:38.140 I think our walking tacos. So we did a pound 00:18:38.140 --> 00:18:43.420 of beef, a can of corn, a pack of taco seasoning, 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.500 and then like a handful of bags. And I think 00:18:46.500 --> 00:18:48.420 that's like the cheapest way you can eat in the 00:18:48.420 --> 00:18:51.779 field. Yeah. Yeah, and you have your own plate 00:18:51.779 --> 00:18:53.799 and everything too. It's pretty nice. Yeah, it 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:57.960 was delicious. Yeah. I've definitely thought 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.640 about doing that, like do some black beans and 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:06.380 do like some lettuce and stuff. Chop that all 00:19:06.380 --> 00:19:11.700 up before I even go out. Yeah. I might do that 00:19:11.700 --> 00:19:15.259 this weekend. We'll see. It's worth it. Yeah, 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:17.500 I'm going to try and keep it as cheap as possible, 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:19.779 and I have to think about what the kid will eat, 00:19:19.940 --> 00:19:24.279 which is basically hot dogs. Like, it's the only 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:30.220 shit he'll eat a lot of. It's crazy. And I hate 00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:35.180 it, but it's like, it's meat, and I get, like, 00:19:35.180 --> 00:19:38.279 the 100 % all beef ones. That's what we get, 00:19:38.339 --> 00:19:41.359 too. Yeah, you know, I'll cut it up long ways, 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.460 and then I'll cut it up again, you know. And 00:19:45.460 --> 00:19:49.240 the one day that I cooked outside to like test 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:53.500 the propane, because I ran a longer hose to my 00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:57.380 Dometic. That way I could move that over to the 00:19:57.380 --> 00:20:00.220 far side of my fold down table for like washing 00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:03.359 dishes or getting water. And then I tested out 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.740 my five pound tank with my stove, which thankfully 00:20:07.740 --> 00:20:09.359 the hose that came with it hooked right up to 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:13.259 the stove. So then I decided to just test out 00:20:13.259 --> 00:20:17.299 the Gerber. cookware that i got into which is 00:20:17.299 --> 00:20:21.660 fucking fantastic oh my god speaking of cookware 00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:23.880 we didn't talk about that we bought new cookware 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.599 for this trip too yeah way better than anything 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:31.059 stainless way better than even carrying cast 00:20:31.059 --> 00:20:35.039 iron i mean i let me pull it up so i can tell 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.259 you exactly what this thing's coated with uh 00:20:38.259 --> 00:20:44.009 so it's a ceramic granite coating Oh, yeah. I 00:20:44.009 --> 00:20:47.029 think I've seen something like that. And it's 00:20:47.029 --> 00:20:51.109 like $30. It's got a removable handle so it fits 00:20:51.109 --> 00:20:53.670 in our packout. I mean, it's a 10 -inch skillet. 00:20:53.670 --> 00:20:56.569 It's a good -sized skillet. The thing is rock 00:20:56.569 --> 00:20:59.029 freaking solid. When I got done cooking – oh, 00:20:59.049 --> 00:21:00.789 we cooked steak on Friday. That's the other thing 00:21:00.789 --> 00:21:04.269 we ate. Nice. When I got done cooking steak, 00:21:04.450 --> 00:21:07.150 I literally just took a damp rag and wiped it 00:21:07.150 --> 00:21:11.500 out, and it was clean. Cast iron takes longer 00:21:11.500 --> 00:21:13.500 to clean than that. Cast iron is a quick, clean 00:21:13.500 --> 00:21:15.900 setup, you know? Yeah, it's just wipe and done 00:21:15.900 --> 00:21:19.559 pretty much, yeah. Yeah, I was really impressed 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.180 with the Gerber stuff so far. I mean, I didn't 00:21:22.180 --> 00:21:23.960 realize it until Sienna pointed it out, but all 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:27.720 the pans, pots, pans, and bowls all have measurements 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.859 on them. I had no clue until she pointed it out. 00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:34.579 It's pretty sick. Yeah, and I cooked the hot 00:21:34.579 --> 00:21:38.059 dogs on it. It's a big pan. I was really excited 00:21:38.059 --> 00:21:41.039 about that. The heat did not transfer to the 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.900 handle at all, which I was kind of wondering 00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:48.779 about. And I could just wipe it right out. I 00:21:48.779 --> 00:21:51.819 threw a little bit. I think I threw just a splash 00:21:51.819 --> 00:21:53.599 of water or something on there while it was still 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.900 a little warm. Took a paper towel and just wiped 00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:01.380 it clean and threw it in all that stuff in the 00:22:01.380 --> 00:22:03.720 bag and threw it back in the truck. Took all 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.569 my old pots and pans out. I got a lot fucking, 00:22:07.650 --> 00:22:11.049 I got a lot more space now, so. It's good. Next 00:22:11.049 --> 00:22:18.029 on my list is the Automatic Coffee Grinder, the 00:22:18.029 --> 00:22:22.910 Brewtrek Overlander, and the Ignik Fire Pit. 00:22:24.069 --> 00:22:29.970 Oh, the Brewtrek, like my Brewtrek? Yeah. It's 00:22:29.970 --> 00:22:33.230 a little different. It's not as big because Sienna 00:22:33.230 --> 00:22:35.690 and I don't drink that much, but it's enough 00:22:35.690 --> 00:22:39.029 to. The Bruchac Roverlander is what I have, the 00:22:39.029 --> 00:22:41.549 24 -ounce one. Oh, okay. I thought you had a 00:22:41.549 --> 00:22:43.089 bigger one for some reason. I thought you had 00:22:43.089 --> 00:22:46.349 the one that's a whole pot. No, that's literally 00:22:46.349 --> 00:22:48.789 the same one I have. Oh, yeah. Then probably. 00:22:49.569 --> 00:22:52.690 And I absolutely love it. Everyone should have 00:22:52.690 --> 00:22:57.109 one. Yeah, I had. If you get on eBay, though, 00:22:57.269 --> 00:23:00.210 don't buy it off Amazon. It's like 50 bucks on 00:23:00.210 --> 00:23:04.869 Amazon. Yeah. I think I paid like $20 for mine 00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:09.740 on. eBay. Oh, there's like none of them for sale 00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:13.799 on eBay anymore. You might be stuck buying it 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:17.579 on Amazon. There is one on eBay right now for 00:23:17.579 --> 00:23:22.880 $30 with $10 shipping, and it's used. Yeah, I 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:28.200 got, let's see. Yeah, I have that. That's $50. 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.900 It's called Crops. It's a coffee grinder. That's, 00:23:34.900 --> 00:23:40.180 like, on sale for $39. So I want to get those. 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:42.880 That'll really just kind of step up any of my 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.339 coffee stuff. And I know Sienna likes coffee 00:23:46.339 --> 00:23:48.660 in the morning, especially when it's cold out. 00:23:49.059 --> 00:23:52.039 And a couple people, you know, when I'm camping 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.240 around want some coffee, and so I figure it's 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.319 always good to have it. And after I get that 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.980 propine, I guess, I guess that's what it's called, 00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:08.259 propine. fire pit uh that'll be nice for the 00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:10.640 burn bands because there's kind of a lot of burn 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:13.539 bands right now so i'll have to take a look at 00:24:13.539 --> 00:24:17.339 that and see what's going on up there in fife 00:24:17.339 --> 00:24:20.200 lake it is that time of year where burn bands 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:26.910 are a plenty yeah yeah we've had uh the uh We've 00:24:26.910 --> 00:24:29.390 had a lot of fires near us. You had a fire, like, 00:24:29.430 --> 00:24:31.630 right down the road that you did a couple weeks 00:24:31.630 --> 00:24:35.329 ago. We've had brush fires everywhere on top 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:40.910 of the DNR doing underbrush controlled. Yeah. 00:24:41.470 --> 00:24:44.710 I don't know if those are all... I almost wonder 00:24:44.710 --> 00:24:46.789 if some of those controlled burns triggered some 00:24:46.789 --> 00:24:48.650 of the other brush fires, the embers from them. 00:24:49.289 --> 00:24:51.829 I think so, because it was the same day. There 00:24:51.829 --> 00:24:57.319 were fires everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. And the wind's 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:02.880 been fucking crazy. But I think that's a good 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.220 place to call it. Yeah, it gives you a little 00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:10.279 25, 30 -minute rundown of what's going on and 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.220 what's going to be. So we appreciate you guys 00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:16.359 listening in, and we'll talk to you later. Definitely 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:21.740 tune in Tuesday. Yeah. All right. Later. Later.