WEBVTT 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:18.460 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:18.460 --> 00:00:20.640 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.160 tank camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.829 to do with the outdoors. We have absolutely no 00:00:26.829 --> 00:00:31.030 topic once again, but we invited one of the other 00:00:31.030 --> 00:00:34.929 botches on, and we've got Mr. Shane. Everyone 00:00:34.929 --> 00:00:40.670 loves Shane. Shane's great. Back again. Oh, I 00:00:40.670 --> 00:00:45.189 want to congratulate your boy on another well 00:00:45.189 --> 00:00:48.250 -spent birthday. It's late, and it's going to 00:00:48.250 --> 00:00:49.950 come out even later by the time we post this, 00:00:50.109 --> 00:00:53.810 but we're recording it a different day. I thought 00:00:53.810 --> 00:00:57.570 about giving him a shout -out on his birthday, 00:00:57.689 --> 00:00:59.630 which we'd already recorded that week, so it 00:00:59.630 --> 00:01:05.129 was too late. Yeah, but while he was rocking 00:01:05.129 --> 00:01:10.769 his botches gear at school, he got his kid's 00:01:10.769 --> 00:01:14.989 botches annual shirt. That's so awesome. He gave 00:01:14.989 --> 00:01:17.469 it to him the night before, and he's like, I 00:01:17.469 --> 00:01:20.709 can wear this to school, right? Go wild, kid. 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:24.719 Let me check the shirt over real quick. Make 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:29.060 sure. I'm glad that no one gave him shit. He's 00:01:29.060 --> 00:01:31.099 standing in line with his friends like, this 00:01:31.099 --> 00:01:33.859 one is my dad's truck. This is Mr. Duncan's truck. 00:01:33.939 --> 00:01:38.840 This is Mr. Gavin. That's awesome. On the back, 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:43.359 I've got Mr. Alex and Mr. Mark. That's cool. 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.579 Can't wait until my son gets that age, man. Oh, 00:01:47.579 --> 00:01:52.700 yeah. He was geeked about it. Yeah, I'm glad 00:01:52.700 --> 00:01:57.540 the kid's shirts turned out okay. Yeah, they 00:01:57.540 --> 00:02:00.400 came out good. Both of them fit like a glove. 00:02:00.980 --> 00:02:04.000 William will probably grow six inches tonight, 00:02:04.140 --> 00:02:10.379 and it'll be a belly shirt on him. It's all right. 00:02:10.740 --> 00:02:13.319 Americans and crop tops have always been a thing, 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:18.360 too. Just 80 crop tops back out, yeah. Just cutting 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.889 sleeves. You might lose out on the sticker bomb, 00:02:22.110 --> 00:02:26.030 but that's okay. There we go. That's our third 00:02:26.030 --> 00:02:30.310 shirt. Crop tops. Oh, my God. I'm too fat for 00:02:30.310 --> 00:02:32.870 that shit. I was going to say, people would pay 00:02:32.870 --> 00:02:35.650 me not to wear them. We'll do a fake crop top 00:02:35.650 --> 00:02:39.689 where it's got abs underneath. It's a full shirt, 00:02:39.770 --> 00:02:44.550 but it's got abs underneath it. Yeah. This would 00:02:44.550 --> 00:02:47.710 be sick. Okay. People will see this and they 00:02:47.710 --> 00:02:50.569 won't affiliate us with botches. It'll be more 00:02:50.569 --> 00:02:52.569 of like, this must be like a trailer park gang. 00:02:52.729 --> 00:02:59.870 That's the YMCA quote. All right. Well, what's 00:02:59.870 --> 00:03:01.490 everyone drinking tonight? Anyone got anything? 00:03:03.310 --> 00:03:07.169 Wow. They decided to actually have one and be 00:03:07.169 --> 00:03:10.710 going with Traverse City Bourbon. Nice. Nice. 00:03:10.810 --> 00:03:14.199 Mark, what you got? I got water. I have a sore 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.259 throat this week. Me too. That's why I'm drinking 00:03:16.259 --> 00:03:21.180 beer. Sorry about that. I have a big -ass jug 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:23.379 of water, too. That is a fancy water bottle. 00:03:23.979 --> 00:03:27.000 I've got... Yeah, that's 20 bucks. I've got an 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.860 age -old botch's favorite, the Blake's Hard Cider 00:03:29.860 --> 00:03:34.240 El Chavo, which... So these have been in my cooler 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.889 since Friday night. Friday night, yep. We put 00:03:38.889 --> 00:03:41.550 some ice in there on Friday night. I forgot about 00:03:41.550 --> 00:03:44.030 them, and when I was getting groceries today, 00:03:44.110 --> 00:03:45.969 I opened the cooler to put groceries in there, 00:03:46.009 --> 00:03:49.110 and there was beer in there. Now, I reached in 00:03:49.110 --> 00:03:51.729 to grab a beer, and it was still cold, and there 00:03:51.729 --> 00:03:55.009 was still ice in the cooler. Oh, that's good, 00:03:55.189 --> 00:03:57.569 because I was making a face the whole time thinking 00:03:57.569 --> 00:04:02.389 of skunk beer. That's promising signs for your 00:04:02.389 --> 00:04:06.030 cooler. My cooler has been since it's Wednesday. 00:04:06.699 --> 00:04:09.219 So, I mean, that's a long time for a cooler to 00:04:09.219 --> 00:04:16.079 have ice. Oh, hey, speaking of coolers, I guess 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.879 I can talk about my fridge for a second because 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:24.860 we had a little issue with my fridge. Oh, no. 00:04:25.980 --> 00:04:30.720 Yep. So, I brought my fridge in over the winter 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.959 with the battery, fully charged the battery and 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:36.850 set them aside pretty much. And when I went to 00:04:36.850 --> 00:04:40.529 put my fridge back in my truck and put my battery 00:04:40.529 --> 00:04:43.589 back in, use the truck to charge the battery, 00:04:43.730 --> 00:04:46.470 I was noticing I wasn't getting like over 37 00:04:46.470 --> 00:04:51.569 % battery. Oh, no. And so I took it out, took 00:04:51.569 --> 00:04:53.870 it inside, started charging the battery off of 00:04:53.870 --> 00:04:57.769 my USB -C because it's got a port for that. And 00:04:57.769 --> 00:05:03.110 it was not charging over that 30%, 37%. So I 00:05:03.110 --> 00:05:08.879 started looking it up. And EcoFlow has taken 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:13.240 those fridges off the market because of the battery 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:17.180 issue. Oh. And it's a known battery issue because 00:05:17.180 --> 00:05:21.779 of the type of battery. This says in the manual. 00:05:22.580 --> 00:05:24.920 Nobody was reading it, but it says in the manual 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:29.259 to keep the battery charged and to check it and 00:05:29.259 --> 00:05:31.939 make sure that it stays at a certain percentage, 00:05:31.980 --> 00:05:34.920 not to let it go absolutely dead, because if 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.100 you let it go dead for too long, it'll kill the 00:05:37.100 --> 00:05:41.360 cell or something in it. And I didn't read that 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.399 part. I don't fucking ever read the manuals or 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.420 anything. So, you know, to be honest, half of 00:05:46.420 --> 00:05:50.279 the blame was on me. The other half is with them 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.319 for not making it a wider known issue if those 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:58.439 batteries were that touchy, I guess. So they 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.079 obviously knew they had a problem. I got a hold 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:07.160 of EcoFlow, and within eight hours, they got 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:11.279 back with me and said, yes, that seems like you're 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.860 having an issue. We want to send you another 00:06:13.860 --> 00:06:16.779 battery. They sent me a return label for my battery. 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:23.060 And then again, within another 24 hours, I explained 00:06:23.060 --> 00:06:25.079 to them that I had shipped the battery. I'm going 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.220 to start doing my camping soon. My fridge is, 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:29.439 it's not useless because I could still hook my 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.000 fridge up to my truck and it'll still run just 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.620 fine. But when my truck is off, I want it to 00:06:35.620 --> 00:06:37.379 be able to run off that battery overnight and 00:06:37.379 --> 00:06:40.120 everything. So I told them that basically it 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:41.839 was useless without it and I would rather get 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.699 my battery sooner or later. They messaged back. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.449 Typically they want... to get the old battery 00:06:48.449 --> 00:06:52.449 in first before they sent anyone out. Yeah. And 00:06:52.449 --> 00:06:54.110 that's what they said they would do originally. 00:06:54.730 --> 00:06:57.209 After I sent that message, they said, yes, we'll 00:06:57.209 --> 00:07:01.990 expedite ship you another battery and we'll ship 00:07:01.990 --> 00:07:04.449 it to you now. That way you can have it. That's 00:07:04.449 --> 00:07:07.889 sick. And so, you know, all things considered, 00:07:07.990 --> 00:07:10.769 it was kind of a crappy situation with the battery. 00:07:10.910 --> 00:07:13.730 Like I said, full disclosure, half of it was 00:07:13.730 --> 00:07:17.319 my fault for not reading. and making sure my 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.680 battery was maintained correctly. But that's 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.459 good customer service. That was actually, yeah. 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:24.600 And you know what? I heard mixed reviews on EcoFlow's 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:30.319 part. But I'm really impressed, honestly, with 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.319 the issue. They took care of me. I have a new 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.220 battery on the way. It's getting shipped in through 00:07:36.220 --> 00:07:39.980 California right now. And so, honestly, I'm pretty 00:07:39.980 --> 00:07:44.050 happy with how that turned out overall. Um, no 00:07:44.050 --> 00:07:46.430 skin off my back really right now because I haven't 00:07:46.430 --> 00:07:49.930 even started camping. So as long as I get it 00:07:49.930 --> 00:07:52.889 in within a couple of weeks, which it should 00:07:52.889 --> 00:07:57.009 very well be in, uh, yeah, we're fine. So I like 00:07:57.009 --> 00:08:00.129 to go ahead. I'm sorry. I thought you were done. 00:08:00.209 --> 00:08:02.870 Oh, I know. Yeah. I just wanted to say this too, 00:08:02.910 --> 00:08:05.250 is like, uh, you know, I don't want to try and 00:08:05.250 --> 00:08:08.610 make everything sound hunky dory in the world. 00:08:08.629 --> 00:08:10.750 And, uh, we've talked about doing reviews on 00:08:10.750 --> 00:08:13.689 certain products and stuff before. And so I just 00:08:13.689 --> 00:08:16.410 kind of wanted that to be known. Yeah, there 00:08:16.410 --> 00:08:21.069 was a con with my fridge so far, you know, other 00:08:21.069 --> 00:08:24.470 than the ice maker, which isn't a con. It just 00:08:24.470 --> 00:08:28.470 is pointless to me because I don't want ice, 00:08:28.470 --> 00:08:31.329 you know, if I already have a fridge that keeps 00:08:31.329 --> 00:08:34.110 everything cold. Dude, we can make strawberry 00:08:34.110 --> 00:08:36.529 daiquiris and shit on the trail. How would you? 00:08:36.769 --> 00:08:39.049 We just have to get a blender that works with 00:08:39.049 --> 00:08:44.500 an air compressor? Pinkies up, man. They have 00:08:44.500 --> 00:08:46.980 those little Nutribullet, like battery -powered 00:08:46.980 --> 00:08:50.960 Nutribullets. So your battery woes reminded me 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:55.659 of my Meshtastic node I put up on Sunday? Monday. 00:08:55.899 --> 00:08:58.500 Oh, yeah, there you go. Monday. So I climbed 00:08:58.500 --> 00:09:01.039 up my roof, which is a very scary climb, and 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.460 I stood up there and I installed my solar node, 00:09:03.539 --> 00:09:07.639 and I came down, and it worked great yesterday. 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:10.600 Not a single problem. It was on all day yesterday. 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.000 I woke up this morning, and it was on this morning. 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:18.519 I came home for lunch, and it was off. And the 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:25.580 battery's dead. Ooh. So, now, when I built it, 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:29.600 we knew that it wasn't a fully tested idea yet. 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:31.820 My dad found a solar panel that had built -in 00:09:31.820 --> 00:09:34.919 batteries, so we were going to see if we could 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.100 just use those instead of installing batteries 00:09:37.100 --> 00:09:41.799 to go with the nodes. Oh, okay. Now we know we 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:43.940 have to install batteries with the nodes because 00:09:43.940 --> 00:09:46.820 once those batteries died, dude, like today it 00:09:46.820 --> 00:09:50.899 came on for I think an hour total. And today 00:09:50.899 --> 00:09:55.340 was sunny. Yeah. What are the nicer days? Right, 00:09:55.460 --> 00:10:01.399 right. So, yeah. And since we're on the product 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.580 reviews, a couple episodes ago, I made a mention 00:10:05.580 --> 00:10:08.200 that I bought some cheap -ass Amazon tire pressure 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:12.179 monitor. gauges yeah i've been running them every 00:10:12.179 --> 00:10:16.879 single day off of solar and the solar has been 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:21.580 fine the gauges seem somewhat accurate as far 00:10:21.580 --> 00:10:24.500 as within the psi range that you would expect 00:10:24.500 --> 00:10:27.659 from a cheap digital gauge hooked onto your tires 00:10:27.659 --> 00:10:32.980 i found the downside downside being that depending 00:10:32.980 --> 00:10:39.549 on where they're screwed in I was having issues 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:45.409 with tires leaking air from those. So I went 00:10:45.409 --> 00:10:49.009 and turned my truck on the other day, turned 00:10:49.009 --> 00:10:54.389 the pressure monitor on, says I was at 26%. Or 00:10:54.389 --> 00:11:01.049 26%, 26 PSI. And I'm like, huh, okay. Honestly, 00:11:01.230 --> 00:11:02.809 I kind of just looked at it. I was like, I'll 00:11:02.809 --> 00:11:08.610 get it later. Drove home, came back. I only live 00:11:08.610 --> 00:11:11.289 like five minutes from home or so, five to seven 00:11:11.289 --> 00:11:13.490 minutes. So it wasn't a huge big deal to me. 00:11:13.830 --> 00:11:15.889 Didn't feel like getting out there and taking 00:11:15.889 --> 00:11:18.809 everything out. A couple days later, I look at 00:11:18.809 --> 00:11:23.769 it again. It's at 16. I'm like, okay. So they 00:11:23.769 --> 00:11:28.529 were fun while it lasted. They were a cheap little 00:11:28.529 --> 00:11:32.190 experiment. But I ripped those suckers off today 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:35.570 and just threw a... Regular valve caps on them. 00:11:35.610 --> 00:11:38.330 And then bought a spare set because for some 00:11:38.330 --> 00:11:40.970 reason, every time I'm airing up or airing down, 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:44.230 I always lose a cap while I'm doing that. So 00:11:44.230 --> 00:11:47.350 what you need are some nice Apex ones. Yeah, 00:11:47.350 --> 00:11:50.710 yeah. With a lanyard. I do get a tether. Yeah. 00:11:51.429 --> 00:11:54.070 Except my lanyard. I might get the. My lanyards 00:11:54.070 --> 00:11:56.610 after like a year dry rotted and fell off and 00:11:56.610 --> 00:12:01.190 I've had to replace them, but. Wah, wah. I might 00:12:01.190 --> 00:12:05.860 get the. Attachable ones for now. Aren't those 00:12:05.860 --> 00:12:11.480 like $65? To be honest, I don't know. Because 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.019 at that point, it's almost worth choking up the 00:12:14.019 --> 00:12:19.100 extra $100 to put the real deal in there. Yeah. 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.019 Are they still... Yeah, they still have the threads 00:12:24.019 --> 00:12:26.419 and everything on them. Yeah, they do, but they're 00:12:26.419 --> 00:12:33.320 not as fast inflating or deflating. Oh, you mean 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:36.100 the thread -on ones? Yeah. I was talking about 00:12:36.100 --> 00:12:38.500 the ones that you mount in. Oh, yeah. No, they 00:12:38.500 --> 00:12:42.399 still have threads on them. Yeah. And... Yeah, 00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:44.679 it might be a thing. If we're going to talk about 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.559 Apex, we got to talk about their brand new... 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:52.500 What is it? The Air ecosystem? Yeah. Oh, my God, 00:12:52.539 --> 00:12:56.860 dude. That is sick. Yeah. They have come out 00:12:56.860 --> 00:13:02.000 with a custom four -link inflation system. where 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.080 you can design exactly how long each line needs 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.539 to be, and you could easily run it where it has 00:13:09.539 --> 00:13:12.700 drops at each fender so that you don't have to 00:13:12.700 --> 00:13:14.840 run a four -link all the way around the truck. 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:18.240 It can just be built into the truck. Yep. And 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.460 it's honestly priced at a fairly affordable point. 00:13:22.220 --> 00:13:25.559 I'm not going to say it's cheap, right? It's 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:27.879 not cheap. No. But it's affordable. Not at all. 00:13:29.079 --> 00:13:31.179 It's a lot cheaper than I thought it was going 00:13:31.179 --> 00:13:32.600 to be, in all honesty. Oh, yeah, for sure. I 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:34.460 thought it was going to be almost $50 just for 00:13:34.460 --> 00:13:40.440 the panel mount for itself. But they kept it 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.600 fairly priced for what they got going on. Mm 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.940 -hmm. Apex is coming out with some cool stuff, 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.320 man. Yeah, they really are. Their hose reel is 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.500 sick. There's nothing else like that. No, I'm 00:13:52.500 --> 00:13:56.809 a big Apex fan, and their tire inflator. Oh, 00:13:56.809 --> 00:14:00.830 my God, dude. It is such a nicely just, it's 00:14:00.830 --> 00:14:03.730 a beautifully milled assembly with a beautiful 00:14:03.730 --> 00:14:09.330 gauge on it. Like, no one makes that level of 00:14:09.330 --> 00:14:11.970 high -quality parts. Like, there's companies 00:14:11.970 --> 00:14:14.169 that make good parts, right? I'm not saying that 00:14:14.169 --> 00:14:17.669 they make bad inflation systems, but nobody makes 00:14:17.669 --> 00:14:23.230 something that's that premium. Yeah. Like, they're 00:14:23.230 --> 00:14:27.549 just, God, they're wild. They're beautiful. I 00:14:27.549 --> 00:14:31.049 think for the amount that I do it, as far as 00:14:31.049 --> 00:14:33.009 I would go into it right now, it's going to be 00:14:33.009 --> 00:14:40.950 maybe the mounted deflators. But I love the hose 00:14:40.950 --> 00:14:42.629 reel. I think that would be like the coolest 00:14:42.629 --> 00:14:46.450 thing ever. But for the price point and for honestly 00:14:46.450 --> 00:14:48.870 how much time difference and how much it's going 00:14:48.870 --> 00:14:50.370 to save me, it's really not going to be that 00:14:50.370 --> 00:14:54.259 much. Yeah. I love the hose reel because it's 00:14:54.259 --> 00:14:56.299 so pretty, but I could not see myself putting 00:14:56.299 --> 00:14:59.600 one in my truck. Yeah. Just for the same reason. 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:04.440 It's $195. That's a lot of freaking money. Yeah, 00:15:04.460 --> 00:15:07.240 for a hose reel. Go opposite of last episode. 00:15:07.259 --> 00:15:10.200 How do you really buy in on the Overland text? 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:16.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun, yeah. Value cab. 00:15:17.580 --> 00:15:23.789 Oh, I got a cough. One second. Cough. Speaking 00:15:23.789 --> 00:15:28.789 of cabs, Turbo's selling his cab. Yeah, I saw 00:15:28.789 --> 00:15:32.789 that. And, like, too bad I have a 5 -foot and 00:15:32.789 --> 00:15:35.649 not a 6 -foot. I'm going to give a shout -out. 00:15:35.649 --> 00:15:37.649 We can fix that in a botch this weekend. I'm 00:15:37.649 --> 00:15:40.809 going to give a shout -out to our good old friend 00:15:40.809 --> 00:15:43.309 Andy. I'm really glad that he's out of the hospital 00:15:43.309 --> 00:15:47.009 and doing better. Yeah. Really kind of worried 00:15:47.009 --> 00:15:48.750 me when he was having them heart issues last 00:15:48.750 --> 00:15:52.720 week. But I talked to him, I think, yesterday. 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:56.080 Uh -huh. And he said he was doing really good. 00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:58.600 I told him that he's not allowed to croak on 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.620 us because I need him to entertain me. Wait, 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.759 who is this Andy person? Andy Hanna. Turbo's 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.759 Toy Box. He has the solid axle single cab Tacoma. 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.740 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. You said 00:16:14.740 --> 00:16:16.500 Andy Hanna. And I'm not going to lie. I thought 00:16:16.500 --> 00:16:18.860 you were talking about like the. A crocodile 00:16:18.860 --> 00:16:22.960 guy. Most people refer to him as Turbo because 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.820 that's his channel. Yeah, Turbo's toy box. I'm 00:16:26.820 --> 00:16:30.039 like, damn, what happened to the crocodile guy? 00:16:30.259 --> 00:16:33.539 If we're going to be on the Andy Hanna thing 00:16:33.539 --> 00:16:36.100 for a little bit, I'm watching Alone right now, 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.720 the latest season of Alone, right? And one of 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:43.679 the contestants who's from Michigan. I swear 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.799 it's Andy Hanna. Like, it's not Andy, but they 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:50.000 look so similar. They have such a similar voice. 00:16:50.179 --> 00:16:53.559 Their laugh is similar. Their personality is 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:58.279 similar. Like, it's wild. Yeah, I've seen, I 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:02.159 think I've seen that season of Alone. Have you 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.619 seen it all yet, or are you re -watching it, 00:17:04.660 --> 00:17:05.779 or is this your first time? This is my first 00:17:05.779 --> 00:17:08.500 time watching. I've watched the first season 00:17:08.500 --> 00:17:10.720 of Alone. I watched parts of it, but never really 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.039 sat down and watched it. So this is the first 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:15.799 season I've actually sat through and watched 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.019 all of, and I'm a little over halfway through 00:17:18.019 --> 00:17:21.420 it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm not going to spoil it 00:17:21.420 --> 00:17:25.319 then. I'm down to like four people. Oh, yeah. 00:17:25.940 --> 00:17:28.960 There's another Survivor show that I was seeing 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:32.400 videos about. It was very similar to Alone. They 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.220 send people out, and basically whoever can last 00:17:35.220 --> 00:17:38.559 the longest wins. Pretty much same setup, but 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.539 the difference is you have to keep the families. 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.900 inside like a hub zone so they have they're watching 00:17:46.900 --> 00:17:50.380 everybody they can listen in on listen in on 00:17:50.380 --> 00:17:53.220 each other is that the one where the family member 00:17:53.220 --> 00:17:58.079 chooses like when to extract them yeah yeah so 00:17:58.079 --> 00:17:59.960 there's a video of a guy who's doing fucking 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:04.339 great he's got basically a house he's doing like 00:18:04.339 --> 00:18:08.359 superb he's obviously i'm and i mean obviously 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:12.240 gonna win it yeah from the get And his wife, 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.019 being such a freaking drama queen, obviously 00:18:16.019 --> 00:18:18.680 not a woman like that, but she was being so self 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.720 -centered. She's like, I miss him. And they do 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.880 a thing where she's complaining that she wants 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:28.099 to write him a note, that they should be able 00:18:28.099 --> 00:18:31.059 to write him notes. So they write notes, and 00:18:31.059 --> 00:18:33.319 then they do this choosing thing where everyone 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.880 votes on whose note gets burnt and doesn't get 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:41.180 sent to the contestant. and she everybody knows 00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:44.099 her husband's the strongest right then so hers 00:18:44.099 --> 00:18:47.339 is the one that gets burnt and she flips out 00:18:47.339 --> 00:18:50.640 and she's like he he needed that note he needed 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:54.480 it and so she freaking talks her brother her 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.410 brother's like I'm sorry, it's actually his brother. 00:18:57.750 --> 00:19:01.890 He's out there. He doesn't understand how we're 00:19:01.890 --> 00:19:04.329 suffering in here. Jesus. Dude's out in the middle 00:19:04.329 --> 00:19:06.829 of the woods starving himself. Dude's just vibing. 00:19:06.829 --> 00:19:07.630 And they're talking about how they're suffering. 00:19:07.829 --> 00:19:11.289 He is. He was, too. He was in good mood, good 00:19:11.289 --> 00:19:16.210 spirits. And so they freaking extract him because 00:19:16.210 --> 00:19:20.349 they get to choose. And he gets a message on 00:19:20.349 --> 00:19:22.049 his sat phone or whatever that says, you've been 00:19:22.049 --> 00:19:25.839 extracted. He's like, why? Yeah. I'm doing fine. 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.859 Jesus. Look, everything's good. I'm thriving. 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.319 Yeah, literally. This is better than my own life. 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:39.880 Exactly. And she's like, well, he's going to 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:42.259 hate me. And I'm like, dude, I would hate my 00:19:42.259 --> 00:19:44.920 wife if she saw that and was so self -centered. 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:50.680 Was the wife hot? No. God damn it. Dude was having 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:55.289 the time of his life. He was finally able to 00:19:55.289 --> 00:19:57.630 escape all that crap and get some peace and quiet. 00:19:57.809 --> 00:20:00.609 And she's like, no, no, we can't have that. So 00:20:00.609 --> 00:20:04.210 she pulled him out. And when they met up together, 00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:08.529 you could see it in his body language. He's pissed. 00:20:08.950 --> 00:20:12.829 They got divorced. And the thing is, is they 00:20:12.829 --> 00:20:15.349 didn't. And then, like, they did a follow -up 00:20:15.349 --> 00:20:17.430 after that. And you could hear it in his voice. 00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:19.809 He's like, yeah, you know, I had to do what's 00:20:19.809 --> 00:20:22.549 right. Like, it sounded so scripted. And I was 00:20:22.549 --> 00:20:26.809 like, man, I hope he leaves. And he brought the 00:20:26.809 --> 00:20:28.910 whole wrong support center there. He should have 00:20:28.910 --> 00:20:30.630 called any one of us and would have been like, 00:20:30.710 --> 00:20:35.309 leave him. It was bad. He's fine. He's got a 00:20:35.309 --> 00:20:39.309 broken leg. He's fine. He'll be all right. It's 00:20:39.309 --> 00:20:41.849 not a horse. He'll be fine. He'll heal up. If 00:20:41.849 --> 00:20:44.630 I ever get on one of those shows, do not call 00:20:44.630 --> 00:20:49.609 me out. I will die out there. And that's the 00:20:49.609 --> 00:20:53.000 thing about alone is people. People, their mental 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:57.079 strength sometimes is just stronger than their 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.460 body strength. There was a woman who got pulled 00:21:00.460 --> 00:21:04.299 because her body fat percentage got so low that 00:21:04.299 --> 00:21:06.160 it was putting her health in danger. And they're 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:07.539 like, we're going to have to pull you, dude. 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:12.779 You're not getting enough food to offset this. 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.819 And she's like, I'm good. Like, I'll starve it 00:21:15.819 --> 00:21:19.779 out. They're like, no. Your essential functions 00:21:19.779 --> 00:21:21.400 are going to start shutting down. This season 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.640 I'm watching right now, two people just quit 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.200 shitting, so they had to get pulled because they 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.240 couldn't shit. Like, I know that I would never 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:35.339 have that problem, but never. Only if there was, 00:21:35.339 --> 00:21:40.619 like, unlimited dehydrated meals. Dude, even 00:21:40.619 --> 00:21:44.130 when I was living off MREs. Even when I lived 00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:48.130 off MREs, I never had that problem. Well, I think 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:50.029 those were designed to make you shit fast. No, 00:21:50.029 --> 00:21:52.190 opposite shit good. They do not want you to shit. 00:21:52.190 --> 00:21:55.609 They clog you up? Oh, yeah. Oh, well, then that's 00:21:55.609 --> 00:21:57.650 the point, yeah. You got to think. Because that's 00:21:57.650 --> 00:21:59.990 what I'm saying. Dehydrated meals, when I eat 00:21:59.990 --> 00:22:03.589 those, I won't shit for days. Yeah. Oh, man, 00:22:03.670 --> 00:22:07.250 that's perfect. I'll be gone by then. You got 00:22:07.250 --> 00:22:09.470 to think. Usually when we're eating MREs, well. 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.119 Army and Marines, I don't know about Navy. I 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.940 don't know why you guys eat MREs. But Army and 00:22:14.940 --> 00:22:18.740 Marines, when we MREs, we're out in the field. 00:22:18.779 --> 00:22:20.519 They don't want us going shit. They want us on 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:25.220 patrol. I think the Navy eat it for fun. That's 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:27.960 how just badass they are, man. Hey, no. This 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.000 ain't even a problem. We just get fucking mid 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.279 -rats. It's like, I got a leftover burnt corn 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:37.380 dog, some moldy lettuce. Here's a piece of bread. 00:22:38.730 --> 00:22:41.130 Go wild, kid. Shane, that sounds like the American 00:22:41.130 --> 00:22:44.230 school lunch system. So when I was in school, 00:22:44.509 --> 00:22:48.269 like AIT school, right, I was swing shift. So 00:22:48.269 --> 00:22:51.549 all my meals were like that midday, like mid 00:22:51.549 --> 00:22:55.349 meal. Oh, they were so gross, dude. And then 00:22:55.349 --> 00:22:58.490 we got to go to the good defect one time for 00:22:58.490 --> 00:23:01.019 like, we had an appointment or something. And 00:23:01.019 --> 00:23:03.420 I was like, this is what everyone else is eating 00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:07.259 while we eat PB &J and custard? Like, what the 00:23:07.259 --> 00:23:12.779 hell? Oh, you know what? That brings me up to 00:23:12.779 --> 00:23:15.400 something. I'd like to hear, what's everybody's... 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:20.200 Think about this like, this is your last meal, 00:23:20.299 --> 00:23:23.380 you're on death row, but camping. What's your 00:23:23.380 --> 00:23:30.309 perfect last meal? Hobo packet. Because it takes 00:23:30.309 --> 00:23:32.930 so long to cook that I would be able to figure 00:23:32.930 --> 00:23:36.109 out a way out of my situation. Yeah, there you 00:23:36.109 --> 00:23:43.130 go. Yeah. Slow roasted beef Wellington with locally 00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:48.250 sourced beef and mushrooms. My go -to like just 00:23:48.250 --> 00:23:54.710 easy, lazy camp meal is do a Dutch oven and do 00:23:54.710 --> 00:24:00.230 like a Philly cheesesteak macaroni skillet. so 00:24:00.230 --> 00:24:03.990 yeah this is what you're making all it's essentially 00:24:03.990 --> 00:24:07.190 like a churched up hamburger helper yeah but 00:24:07.190 --> 00:24:09.970 just throw everything in that set it directly 00:24:09.970 --> 00:24:13.509 in the fire pit so this is what you're making 00:24:13.509 --> 00:24:18.089 for third gen weekend right yeah yeah okay oh 00:24:18.089 --> 00:24:20.190 yeah i'm talking like i think i actually made 00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:24.849 it last third gen weekend too oh shit yeah because 00:24:24.849 --> 00:24:26.869 we're doing that potluck on saturday so you should 00:24:26.869 --> 00:24:30.150 definitely make that Yeah, because right now 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:33.970 the plan is they come out, came Friday night, 00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:39.730 we'll hang out through the day Saturday. Then 00:24:39.730 --> 00:24:43.470 once the kids are about ready to pass out, pack 00:24:43.470 --> 00:24:46.849 up, hit the road, because Joseph's got a 9 a 00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:50.329 .m. football game on Sunday, and then went back 00:24:50.329 --> 00:24:55.329 up at Riggs and Coffee. Yeah, buddy. We'll plan 00:24:55.329 --> 00:24:58.150 on being done wheeling around like 5 .30 then. 00:24:58.670 --> 00:25:02.430 That way we can do dinner and then you guys can 00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:07.150 head out of there. Yeah. It would be sick. I 00:25:07.150 --> 00:25:09.970 don't – third gen weekend to me is more of a 00:25:09.970 --> 00:25:12.230 camping weekend than a wheeling weekend. Yeah. 00:25:12.509 --> 00:25:19.970 Yeah. Yeah, that would be fun. Man, is that like 00:25:19.970 --> 00:25:22.480 your – Is that, like, your go -to meal if you 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:24.599 had unlimited time, money, and everything? Like, 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:28.059 that's your favorite camp meal hands down? Or 00:25:28.059 --> 00:25:30.500 is that just, like, your quick and easy get -or 00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:34.380 -done? For me, I'll always throw a steak on. 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:40.599 But just for ease, good food sticks with you. 00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:49.059 That's my absolute go -to. Yeah, I think the... 00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:55.000 I think for mine it's a good steak for sure. 00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:59.640 You get a good steak with morel mushroom, like 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.359 fried morel mushrooms, like gravy. Maybe you'd 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.579 make some roux with the leftovers of the steak 00:26:05.579 --> 00:26:10.839 and some fried morel mushrooms, some local potatoes 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:16.539 and asparagus. And I'd be like the perfect meal 00:26:16.539 --> 00:26:19.400 right there. Hell yeah. Be able to have that. 00:26:21.179 --> 00:26:24.640 What about you, Mark? What's your favorite? What 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:30.259 do you dream of? I don't know. I really enjoyed 00:26:30.259 --> 00:26:34.500 when I did street tackles last year. Those are 00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:39.059 good. I'm not going to lie. I was surprised in 00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:42.720 a good way. It came out a lot better than I thought 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:44.319 it was going to be, so I was genuinely surprised 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.140 by it, too. Yeah, you had those marinating, didn't 00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:50.650 you? Yes. Yeah. And that's. Yeah, no, that turned 00:26:50.650 --> 00:26:56.349 out really well. That's what we plan on doing 00:26:56.349 --> 00:27:00.029 for third gen weekend too, right? I think we 00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:03.410 were talking about walking tacos. Oh, yeah, we're 00:27:03.410 --> 00:27:05.670 going to do walking tacos. Throwing them in a 00:27:05.670 --> 00:27:09.329 bag, a Dorito bag or something. Yeah. That's 00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:14.890 a good one. Yeah, so. Yeah. That. I'll have the 00:27:14.890 --> 00:27:21.519 skillet. That. I'll bring, like, some kind of 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.759 cake or something because it's Joseph's, like, 00:27:24.819 --> 00:27:28.660 this is what I want to do for my birthday. That's 00:27:28.660 --> 00:27:33.720 awesome, dude. Oh, yeah. Maybe do, like, a Dutch 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:38.240 oven cake or something. Yeah. That would be so 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.619 cool. I can't wait. I hope my son's the same 00:27:42.619 --> 00:27:46.079 way. He's showing it so far. He seems like he 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.450 is completely down for all of it. Oh, yeah. He's 00:27:48.450 --> 00:27:53.670 going that way. Because Joseph and William, I 00:27:53.670 --> 00:28:00.710 didn't start taking them wheeling until three 00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:06.369 for both of them. Because I didn't really start 00:28:06.369 --> 00:28:12.930 until Joseph was almost out of diapers and William 00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:16.089 was just like, okay, you can... Hang your head 00:28:16.089 --> 00:28:18.789 around when I was in the disco and that thing 00:28:18.789 --> 00:28:21.990 bounced around like crazy. I'm like, I'm not 00:28:21.990 --> 00:28:27.890 going to give you CTE. Right, right, right. Yeah, 00:28:28.670 --> 00:28:33.029 because we started when he was like four or five 00:28:33.029 --> 00:28:38.369 months, like camping and stuff. And then so the 00:28:38.369 --> 00:28:42.680 first night we had him. I had rain sounds on 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:46.960 a tent playing in the hospital room on the TV. 00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:52.160 And I trained him. I'm like, I'm going to train 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.180 him from an early age to be able to sleep like 00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:59.759 a baby with rain sounds and tent sounds. So it's 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.839 like almost some crazy CIA mind game thing. So 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.319 now he sleeps like a baby, only when we're on 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.710 the trail, not on roads. Only when we're, like, 00:29:10.710 --> 00:29:13.710 bumping around on trails. So we take Prairie 00:29:13.710 --> 00:29:16.630 every couple nights or so to get them to go to 00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:21.490 bed quicker. And so we do that little length 00:29:21.490 --> 00:29:24.769 of trail, that 10 -minute trail there, he'll 00:29:24.769 --> 00:29:28.390 be asleep within three minutes. It's nuts how 00:29:28.390 --> 00:29:31.670 fast it works. Oh, yeah. And then on nights when 00:29:31.670 --> 00:29:35.309 we can't do that, we play rain sounds on a tent, 00:29:35.509 --> 00:29:37.970 and then we turn that all the way, you know, 00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:40.079 we turn that as loud as we can. get it without 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.319 hurting him. And he just zonks right out, dude. 00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:49.220 It's so good. He's doing great. Oh, yeah. He's 00:29:49.220 --> 00:29:52.220 all about the rig, too. He loves sitting in the 00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:55.920 front seat. We told him we were going to go on 00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.160 a trail ride the other day, and he sat in the 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.099 passenger seat instead of getting in his car 00:30:00.099 --> 00:30:02.480 seat. And he just sat down and looked out the 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.500 window, looked at me, and I'm like, dude, you 00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:07.279 got to get in your car seat, man. And we started 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.210 putting him in there, and it was like. exercising 00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:14.250 a demon. Oh, yeah. But once he hit that three 00:30:14.250 --> 00:30:20.509 -year range, I took the boys out to Yankee a 00:30:20.509 --> 00:30:25.890 while ago, and for two of the strips of trail, 00:30:26.069 --> 00:30:28.630 just like, okay, you can sit in my lap and you 00:30:28.630 --> 00:30:32.289 can steer because I can quick grab the wheel 00:30:32.289 --> 00:30:36.009 if I need to, but it's Yankee. It's a glorified 00:30:36.009 --> 00:30:43.559 dirt road for all but one section. I totally 00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:47.460 cut you off, and I'm sorry. All good. When we 00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:52.319 did the poker run, I let Jackson drive for a 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.299 little bit. Yep. And that part he enjoyed. The 00:30:55.299 --> 00:30:57.259 rest of it he kept saying, are we driving home 00:30:57.259 --> 00:31:02.880 now? Yeah, I remember that. No, I let my son 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.759 drive around the yard. Wait, out there at Everett. 00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:11.900 Wait, Joseph did. uh our first third gen weekend 00:31:11.900 --> 00:31:18.099 and that one hindsight i probably wouldn't have 00:31:18.099 --> 00:31:20.779 had him do because i hadn't tackled that hill 00:31:20.779 --> 00:31:23.740 because that one that had the gnarly rock right 00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:27.819 at the end of it like oh yeah i'm glad he didn't 00:31:27.819 --> 00:31:33.119 take my diff out was that the was that the same 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.579 one we did backwards at a poker run yeah yes 00:31:38.820 --> 00:31:41.220 Oh, yeah, that's the only one I would have thought 00:31:41.220 --> 00:31:44.119 about as far as killing your diff. Yeah, because 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.720 that smoked my front axle the first time because 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.799 I didn't align myself right. We tried going up, 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:52.740 because we went up at first, and we were like, 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.000 we started, and I'm like, I think I'm going to 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.960 miss it here, and then we hear, and the whole 00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.140 truck stopped, and I'm like, seeing it, I was 00:31:59.140 --> 00:32:01.619 like, you did not miss it. I'm like, no, I did 00:32:01.619 --> 00:32:05.509 not. Not so much. Not so much. We didn't have 00:32:05.509 --> 00:32:07.170 that much speed, thankfully, because I would 00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:10.829 have smoked something. I got that nice new skid 00:32:10.829 --> 00:32:13.009 plate so I can hit things fast and it just kind 00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:17.950 of bounces off. Yeah. I can't wait for the new 00:32:17.950 --> 00:32:20.450 skid. Dude, my skid plate. Oh, my God, that's 00:32:20.450 --> 00:32:23.410 going to do. When I was putting my skid plate 00:32:23.410 --> 00:32:26.369 on, that thing's like it's over 100 pounds for 00:32:26.369 --> 00:32:28.710 just that one part that I've got mounted so far. 00:32:29.970 --> 00:32:32.170 That's a lot of weight, man. Dude, it's so heavy. 00:32:32.670 --> 00:32:36.950 With all the underbody and just rig protection 00:32:36.950 --> 00:32:40.930 you're getting, I'm just waiting to see how reckless 00:32:40.930 --> 00:32:49.750 you get. With my sliders, my skid plates. Your 00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:54.470 raised sliders. Yeah, dude, they're so sick. 00:32:55.470 --> 00:32:58.670 You're no passenger mirror. Since this episode 00:32:58.670 --> 00:33:01.170 is going to be after the reveal this weekend, 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.140 I really hope the clear coat for the skin and 00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:08.759 bumper will last a while. It is after the review, 00:33:08.859 --> 00:33:11.960 so you can talk about it. Hell yes. No, dude, 00:33:12.059 --> 00:33:14.579 I'm so hoping that that clear coat holds up. 00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:19.920 Because that raw metal look, like I said, I've 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.119 never seen someone just clear coat raw metal 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:30.230 like that. Other than me, but. Yeah. What is 00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:33.750 it on your bumper you're getting? Oh, it's here. 00:33:34.089 --> 00:33:38.450 It's like half clear -coated already. The skid 00:33:38.450 --> 00:33:41.009 plate is on the truck and clear -coated. Yep. 00:33:41.809 --> 00:33:45.750 Skid plate's on. That was the thing in the video 00:33:45.750 --> 00:33:49.109 was me grinding away the old crossmember. Oh, 00:33:49.109 --> 00:33:51.930 okay. You can actually see the new crossmember 00:33:51.930 --> 00:33:56.720 chilling on the ground there, too. Yeah. I've 00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.839 yet to get any more skid plates or anything. 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.019 It's on my list, but I don't hard wheel enough 00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:07.460 to make it a massive priority. If you just want 00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:14.079 a mid -range one, I've got a pretty heavy aluminum 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:18.639 plating here. I also have heavy aluminum plating. 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:24.800 And it'd be an easy fab up. Yeah, I think I have 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.420 the stock one. It's like a real thin steel that 00:34:28.420 --> 00:34:33.519 goes over, what is it, the oil and everything, 00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:39.179 the oil pan. Just that one right now, but eventually 00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:43.760 I'd like to get some more. Just not like a, like 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.619 I don't wheel hard like Alex does, so it's like 00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:50.059 obviously you can't plan for everything. Like 00:34:50.059 --> 00:34:51.760 obviously we could hit a mud puddle and there 00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.829 could be a giant rock in there. spells my doom 00:34:54.829 --> 00:34:57.769 but yeah i think aluminum plate would do you 00:34:57.769 --> 00:35:00.929 well yeah because it won't be heavy yeah i don't 00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:03.849 need any extra weight i i'm gonna have to when 00:35:03.849 --> 00:35:07.329 i get the rooftop tent i'm gonna have to change 00:35:07.329 --> 00:35:11.969 my springs out again i it's just a i have 200 00:35:11.969 --> 00:35:14.090 pound constant load springs right now and i'm 00:35:14.090 --> 00:35:16.769 probably already at 200 although i'll tell you 00:35:16.769 --> 00:35:19.110 this once i loaded everything back in the truck 00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:21.849 for the year my truck felt so much better i'm 00:35:21.849 --> 00:35:26.119 sure Oh, God. I should have just kept everything 00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:31.860 in it. Yeah, right now I've got unknown, I believe 00:35:31.860 --> 00:35:35.219 they're Toyotex springs on the floor. Yeah, I 00:35:35.219 --> 00:35:37.000 think they're Toyotex. And that was just because 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.880 they were free, so I thought it was worth trying. 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.500 But I've got a set of OMEs that I think are going 00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:44.659 on this weekend. Yeah, that's what I have is 00:35:44.659 --> 00:35:48.099 OME 200 -pound constant loads. Mine are the heaviest 00:35:48.099 --> 00:35:51.400 ones they sell for the third gen. I think I'm 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:59.099 going to have to go to, like, Five? 500? If right 00:35:59.099 --> 00:36:01.739 now I'm already rocking 200, you know, with the 00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:04.880 rear bumper, with everything in the back, and 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:10.639 any gear in the truck, the tent itself is like 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:16.559 270 pounds. So I think like 500 -pound springs 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.519 or something are going to have to be in the works. 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:20.969 I'll have to look into it. I don't know what 00:36:20.969 --> 00:36:24.469 Old Man Emu sells as far as how high they go. 00:36:24.469 --> 00:36:28.150 Old Man Emu gets up there because I had Old Man 00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:33.989 Emu heavy duties on the disco. And when it was 00:36:33.989 --> 00:36:39.469 laden, they were great. Hey, you know, speaking 00:36:39.469 --> 00:36:43.530 of the disco again, is it my understanding that 00:36:43.530 --> 00:36:45.090 you met up with a guy that owned an old disco? 00:36:46.769 --> 00:36:51.800 How'd that go? Cool dude. He's already like doing 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.019 all the things that I kept telling myself I was 00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:58.639 going to do to it. It's like new bushings. They 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:03.260 just winch. But then I kept breaking shit on 00:37:03.260 --> 00:37:08.260 it. And then my wall rebuilt the engine or new 00:37:08.260 --> 00:37:13.960 bushings. Well, right. Which one do you do? Yeah, 00:37:14.019 --> 00:37:18.239 exactly. He's like, Oh yeah. Like my mechanic 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:21.349 friend. Before I went to look at it, told me, 00:37:21.389 --> 00:37:24.409 don't get it. They're pieces of junk. I'm like, 00:37:24.469 --> 00:37:26.750 no, this one seems really nice. Come look at 00:37:26.750 --> 00:37:29.090 it. He's like, dude, this engine's immaculate. 00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:34.250 Buy it. I'm like, it should be. It's got less 00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:40.309 than 5 ,000 miles since the rebuild. Since the 00:37:40.309 --> 00:37:45.090 rebuild. It was really cool that the guy that 00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:50.070 bought your... disco happened to find botches 00:37:50.070 --> 00:37:53.550 off road on facebook yeah yeah because yeah what 00:37:53.550 --> 00:37:56.869 a coincidence i was out at yankee doing trail 00:37:56.869 --> 00:38:01.949 cleanup they and was shooting messages back and 00:38:01.949 --> 00:38:03.690 forth with him and i'm like hey i'm gonna be 00:38:03.690 --> 00:38:06.030 out here this day this time i'll shoot you my 00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:10.349 coordinates come find me hey him and his wife 00:38:10.349 --> 00:38:13.250 rolled up and i'm like so how the hell did you 00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:17.360 find botches hey like Were you in Mitten State 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:21.840 Tours? And someone recommended like, oh, check 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.380 these guys out. They know their stuff. If you're 00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:27.820 looking for like mechanically inclined, do -it 00:38:27.820 --> 00:38:31.300 -yourself ideas. He's like, no, I found botches 00:38:31.300 --> 00:38:34.079 first. And that's how I heard about Mitten State 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.860 Tours. Weird. And it's not like he listened. 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.739 It's not even like he listened to the podcast 00:38:40.739 --> 00:38:44.639 either. He found the group. No, because I was 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.010 like, hey. That's crazy, because we had just 00:38:48.010 --> 00:38:51.550 talked about the rig, and I figured, like, okay, 00:38:51.610 --> 00:38:54.989 maybe he's like, that sounds a lot like my truck. 00:38:55.690 --> 00:39:01.829 Is this it? I was going to say, I tagged you, 00:39:01.909 --> 00:39:03.070 Shane, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I 00:39:03.070 --> 00:39:09.090 was on my social media hiatus, but I saw your 00:39:09.090 --> 00:39:11.969 screenshots coming in, just like, that your truck? 00:39:12.050 --> 00:39:17.630 I'm like, sure as hell is. That's so funny, dude. 00:39:17.969 --> 00:39:21.289 I saw pictures of it, too. I'm like, that's Shane's 00:39:21.289 --> 00:39:24.469 disco. Literally, I just got done editing the 00:39:24.469 --> 00:39:28.369 episode, so I have your disco implanted in my 00:39:28.369 --> 00:39:31.510 mind right now. I'm like, that's his disco. It 00:39:31.510 --> 00:39:33.789 was funny because I ran into him on the trail, 00:39:33.929 --> 00:39:38.610 and I was like, all right, I've probably spent 00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:41.250 a good month of my life underneath this thing. 00:39:41.349 --> 00:39:43.690 Do you mind if I take a look at it real quick? 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.440 He's like, yeah, go for it. Like, all right, 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:49.559 good. You patched through your frame. He's got 00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:53.820 a new, he's got a new, a steel bumper, a wired 00:39:53.820 --> 00:39:59.559 up with integrated LEDs, a sick setup, a new 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:05.039 15K winch, a all new body bushings, the new suspension 00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:09.480 bushings, a new steering components. So it's 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:14.280 Jesus. That and just redid all the. rooftop lighting 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:21.920 so so like i'm excited to search up did he just 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.280 search up off road then and then found us how 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.800 did he even find our facebook i don't know how 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.300 he originally found us because he sounds like 00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:36.280 he has a jeep a and a side by side and wanted 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:41.719 the disco for like specifically overlanding and 00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:46.199 it can tow Because the thing tows 8 ,500. Right. 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.559 And he's like, I can haul a trailer, I can haul 00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.760 the side -by -side around. If we want to go do 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.679 drumming, he's like, I'm planning to take it 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.960 up Marblehead. I'm like, yeah, it'll do Marblehead, 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.559 no problem. But doing Marblehead, no problem 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:06.079 now. Like, yeah, now Subaru Outback will do Marblehead. 00:41:10.380 --> 00:41:14.039 But... ran into him made a cool scene the old 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.800 red followed it down a trail for a bit and i'm 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.119 like oh man that's what it looked like everyone 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.900 following behind me just 10 foot tall clearance 00:41:22.900 --> 00:41:28.300 just bashing through the woods i only remember 00:41:28.300 --> 00:41:33.000 it following me blinding you with those overheads 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:39.219 yeah well that's that's really cool man you like 00:41:39.869 --> 00:41:41.889 And the thing is, is that you go back to, did 00:41:41.889 --> 00:41:43.570 you have any sellers remorse when you saw it? 00:41:43.570 --> 00:41:45.710 You were like, man, I miss that. Or were you 00:41:45.710 --> 00:41:49.590 just like, hasta la vista, fucker. No, I definitely 00:41:49.590 --> 00:41:52.570 miss it because like, you kind of touched on 00:41:52.570 --> 00:41:55.510 this talking about your FJ. Like that was my 00:41:55.510 --> 00:41:59.349 dream truck growing up. I'm like, everything 00:41:59.349 --> 00:42:02.829 about it's cool. It's like the last of the real 00:42:02.829 --> 00:42:07.590 off -road focused Land Rovers. And it's just 00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:15.389 stupid capable. a solid front and rears a a strong 00:42:15.389 --> 00:42:19.030 engine blows head gaskets like a son of a bitch 00:42:19.030 --> 00:42:25.489 but strong engine asterisk yeah a big ass i have 00:42:25.489 --> 00:42:29.510 a quad 442 i get it bored out buick engine from 00:42:29.510 --> 00:42:33.969 the 60s and gets eight miles to the gallon once 00:42:33.969 --> 00:42:37.369 you've got it lifted with heavy tires but god 00:42:37.369 --> 00:42:42.150 damn that thing was fun And you know what? I've 00:42:42.150 --> 00:42:45.269 never driven anything else in my life that had 00:42:45.269 --> 00:42:50.929 a better one driving position and view. Right. 00:42:53.070 --> 00:42:59.409 Land Rover, for all their faults on the electrical 00:42:59.409 --> 00:43:07.269 side and their gas engine reliability. they've 00:43:07.269 --> 00:43:11.170 got it down to a science like there i had zero 00:43:11.170 --> 00:43:13.570 blind spots in that thing and it's a massive 00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:18.550 rig yeah i mean it's beautiful i've always wanted 00:43:18.550 --> 00:43:21.530 one too and only reason i haven't really executed 00:43:21.530 --> 00:43:26.429 it is one because i got an fj2 i don't damn thing 00:43:26.429 --> 00:43:28.809 about them and i thought they were like really 00:43:28.809 --> 00:43:30.789 high price so i didn't even look at them when 00:43:30.789 --> 00:43:35.429 it came down to that i have got it i've I picked 00:43:35.429 --> 00:43:43.489 it up for seven and it's, it's kind of like the 00:43:43.489 --> 00:43:46.590 perfect rig if you're mechanically inclined and 00:43:46.590 --> 00:43:50.889 have the time to deal with it. But having a three 00:43:50.889 --> 00:43:56.989 and a six year old and yeah, a care costs everything 00:43:56.989 --> 00:44:00.210 else. I'm just like, when I started it, I'm like, 00:44:00.269 --> 00:44:02.429 yeah, I've got time. I can do this, and then 00:44:02.429 --> 00:44:04.750 I'm like, I don't have the fucking time for this. 00:44:04.769 --> 00:44:10.309 Yeah. A little wheel bearing, so I might as well 00:44:10.309 --> 00:44:16.789 do the axle shafts while I'm in here. Oh, yeah. 00:44:17.269 --> 00:44:20.150 Yeah, that $300 a week is a killer, and I'm sure 00:44:20.150 --> 00:44:22.409 you pay more because you have two, but it's like, 00:44:22.510 --> 00:44:28.010 man, that's a lot of money, man. Oh, yeah. Nothing 00:44:28.010 --> 00:44:31.579 felt better than one Joseph. started kindergarten 00:44:31.579 --> 00:44:34.260 and we're like oh my god we only have one daycare 00:44:34.260 --> 00:44:38.599 payment now right now just the finish line is 00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:43.099 in sight for getting william there yeah well 00:44:43.099 --> 00:44:45.780 i tell you what man you got him uh you walked 00:44:45.780 --> 00:44:49.440 so he could run yeah he's he's set up you know 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.019 you know you got it to a you got it to a spot 00:44:52.019 --> 00:44:54.440 and he's kind of finishing it up oh yeah and 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:56.280 that's what i was telling him like well everything 00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.510 major on it except for the frame repair that 00:45:00.510 --> 00:45:03.730 you did on the rear quarter chassis i'm like 00:45:03.730 --> 00:45:09.409 i already did all the like known issues for these 00:45:09.409 --> 00:45:14.309 rigs so you're stuck for another 80 000 miles 00:45:14.309 --> 00:45:24.510 yeah right yeah 80 000 uh no it's it was a cool 00:45:24.510 --> 00:45:26.369 it was just a really cool thing to talk about 00:45:26.369 --> 00:45:27.949 that real quick so i don't think we really talked 00:45:27.949 --> 00:45:32.039 about it but no Just such a weird thing that 00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.139 he found it and made a post about it and everything. 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.800 Because to be honest, our Facebook group is more 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.500 of just kind of a group with us. Yeah, it's more 00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:43.860 a forum for us. And we're not super active. Yeah, 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:48.079 it's basically like a domain for when we're doing 00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:51.219 events to be able to post events out there. The 00:45:51.219 --> 00:45:52.880 whole reason I made it - It was really weird. 00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:55.079 The whole reason I made it was when we make events, 00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:58.039 we can make them as botches off -road, not individuals. 00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:02.719 Yeah, right. So, I mean, for him to find it and 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.380 then post Shane's truck in there like, hey, you 00:46:05.380 --> 00:46:09.480 just joined. Like, what? It was wild. We actually 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.420 have someone who joined the page? Like, what 00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:15.039 the hell? And he's not a listener either? We 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:18.960 have 10 members. You know none of us. And you 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.780 have my old truck. We have 30 members. Just a 00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:26.280 crazy group of members, guys. Oh, man, we're 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:30.880 up there. We're killing it. One of the highest 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.119 in the country. And it looks like most of them 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.800 are... There's actually quite a few that look 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.739 like listeners. Awesome. That's good. Because 00:46:42.739 --> 00:46:47.940 there's Wreck -It Rob. Yeah. There's a guy named 00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:50.579 Constantine Lawfer who joined two months ago. 00:46:52.300 --> 00:46:56.659 And then we've got... Yeah, I should probably 00:46:56.659 --> 00:46:59.489 get my... My priest on there, too. He should 00:46:59.489 --> 00:47:02.949 probably join. Oh, my God. We got three new members 00:47:02.949 --> 00:47:09.929 that joined after my episode with Benji on New 00:47:09.929 --> 00:47:15.010 Found Overland. Yeah. Yeah, that was the second 00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:16.550 one we'd done with him. We have Chibs in there? 00:47:16.590 --> 00:47:19.429 Yeah, the first one was... I don't even know 00:47:19.429 --> 00:47:25.239 if Chibs is on here. Yeah. Yeah, I think Mike 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.239 Bredenberger is, I'll have to tell him about 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:33.840 the invite. Get those guys out of the house. 00:47:33.940 --> 00:47:37.179 Jesus. Out of the church. Our fake community 00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:43.679 of Bath, Michigan. It's funny because I used 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.480 to live in Bath, Michigan. That's where my dad 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:48.360 used to live. So it's like, it's also a really 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.840 weird name for a town. Right. Almost perfect 00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.949 for our fake community. I don't even. Yeah, because 00:47:54.949 --> 00:47:58.269 we've got the Bath Community Gas Station, the 00:47:58.269 --> 00:48:03.949 Bath News, the City of Bath. The church. The 00:48:03.949 --> 00:48:09.070 church. There's already a meme police station 00:48:09.070 --> 00:48:11.989 there. Those guys have been posting meme stuff 00:48:11.989 --> 00:48:14.929 for years now that get millions of views. That's 00:48:14.929 --> 00:48:20.550 hilarious. It was a perfect setup for it. And 00:48:20.550 --> 00:48:23.170 it's even better now that Chibs' wife joined 00:48:23.170 --> 00:48:26.909 Facebook. Did you see Marky's comment on that? 00:48:28.789 --> 00:48:32.250 Yeah. Oh, Sweet Cheeks finally has Facebook. 00:48:35.449 --> 00:48:38.369 And it's funny because I don't know how Joe got 00:48:38.369 --> 00:48:41.929 her into that, but that is just hilarious. Yeah. 00:48:42.090 --> 00:48:45.150 And she's still commenting in through in and 00:48:45.150 --> 00:48:49.039 out too, so she's like an active. fake bath member 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.980 too let's just wait is that it was such a weird 00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:54.059 is that actually his wife i thought it was just 00:48:54.059 --> 00:48:57.780 joe yeah no he got her to make one so she's actually 00:48:57.780 --> 00:49:00.079 oh my god i definitely should not have called 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.840 her sweet cheeks i thought it was just joe no 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.000 from what he said i thought he said on messenger 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.940 or something that he finally got her to to join 00:49:10.940 --> 00:49:15.989 in on that i uh i don't have Thunderdome anymore, 00:49:16.190 --> 00:49:19.929 so I miss all that fun stuff. Yeah, it's slowed 00:49:19.929 --> 00:49:23.269 down quite a bit. I am excited for the events 00:49:23.269 --> 00:49:25.590 coming up, though, as far as spring camping. 00:49:27.050 --> 00:49:29.530 Camping with kids is always just a really fun 00:49:29.530 --> 00:49:33.269 get -together. Yeah, the camp with kids is probably 00:49:33.269 --> 00:49:36.670 one of the... It's so nice. ...I look forward 00:49:36.670 --> 00:49:41.510 to for events. Oh, yeah. It is so nice, too, 00:49:41.550 --> 00:49:44.000 because the kids all get together. And they just 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.400 hang out so you don't, you know, not saying you 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.059 don't have to watch your own kid. But, you know, 00:49:49.059 --> 00:49:51.000 with them hanging out, they all kind of watch 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.179 each other. You can kind of keep an eye on them 00:49:53.179 --> 00:49:57.559 as a whole campground or camp area. And it's 00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.019 just kind of nice for them to get out and do 00:49:59.019 --> 00:50:01.460 stuff with other kids out in the wild. Yeah, 00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:03.599 like it's a blast. Like last year I couldn't 00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.360 go because I was on orders. But when we did the 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.179 first kids camping weekend, it was either just. 00:50:10.809 --> 00:50:13.429 All the kids used the disco as a jungle gym. 00:50:14.530 --> 00:50:18.230 Or one of the guys out there, I forget his name 00:50:18.230 --> 00:50:21.349 right now, and it's going to ruin my night, but 00:50:21.349 --> 00:50:25.190 they had, like, a bed platform in the back of 00:50:25.190 --> 00:50:27.730 his F -150, and they hopped back there with a 00:50:27.730 --> 00:50:31.570 tablet and just watched Disney movies. And, like, 00:50:31.590 --> 00:50:34.690 we could feel like actual adults hanging out 00:50:34.690 --> 00:50:37.989 around the campfire. Oh, it was, yeah, it was 00:50:37.989 --> 00:50:43.039 so great. Last year, they actually set up a sheet, 00:50:43.179 --> 00:50:48.900 and see, now I'm forgetting his name. Corey. 00:50:49.019 --> 00:50:51.880 The one with the gladiator. Corey, yeah. Corey 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:56.820 set up a projector, and they played a kid's movie. 00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:01.280 Trail to the Void on YouTube. Yes, yep, Trail 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:04.599 to the Void. So he set up a projector, and they 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.659 played a kid's movie out by the campfire. So 00:51:07.659 --> 00:51:11.059 the kids were all watching the movie. Derek or 00:51:11.059 --> 00:51:13.960 someone else brought a little kids' archery target 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:18.219 and fun little games and stuff like that. And 00:51:18.219 --> 00:51:21.780 I think they did candle making, so they made 00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:25.599 some candles. It's just fun little projects. 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:29.280 It's for the kids, really. And then we even chose 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.460 to go out on a little night ride in the dunes 00:51:31.460 --> 00:51:34.449 over there. came back and they were still watching 00:51:34.449 --> 00:51:37.510 the movie so it was so you know the adults even 00:51:37.510 --> 00:51:40.570 got to peel away for a little bit and with the 00:51:40.570 --> 00:51:42.530 other adults that were you know fully set up 00:51:42.530 --> 00:51:45.789 and couldn't just pack everything and go so they 00:51:45.789 --> 00:51:48.010 they watched the kids for just a little bit and 00:51:48.010 --> 00:51:51.590 and we went out there a couple of us and just 00:51:51.590 --> 00:51:54.289 kind of bebopped around came back after 30 minutes 00:51:54.289 --> 00:51:58.920 and it was nice man and I think Joe's kids are 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.780 older. Derek's kids are older, like six, six 00:52:02.780 --> 00:52:06.059 around that area. And they just, they just went 00:52:06.059 --> 00:52:08.300 out by the river and playing around by the river, 00:52:08.340 --> 00:52:11.119 you know, doing kids stuff, building a fort. 00:52:11.219 --> 00:52:13.880 And it's like, that's exactly what the kids nowadays, 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.320 now these days need. Oh yeah. I think I'm going 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:21.280 to try and do fall kids camping, but it's going 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.880 to be hard because we want to do botches yearly 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:28.989 in September. Yeah. It'd be great for the kid 00:52:28.989 --> 00:52:34.090 if you're still having him hang around there. 00:52:35.150 --> 00:52:39.010 It would be really cool for him to have other 00:52:39.010 --> 00:52:45.050 kids that are doing the same thing, all natured 00:52:45.050 --> 00:52:47.889 around the same thing. Those are my favorite 00:52:47.889 --> 00:52:52.909 events just for the kids. What's really fun is 00:52:52.909 --> 00:52:55.670 I now have him able to tell the difference between 00:52:55.670 --> 00:52:59.829 a Jeep, a 4Runner, and a taco. There you go. 00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:02.070 And whenever a taco goes by, I'll be like, Jackson, 00:53:02.170 --> 00:53:03.989 what kind of car is that? And he'll go, he'll 00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:08.210 smile and giggle and go, a taco? There you go. 00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:15.369 You know, we should do, you know, most of us 00:53:15.369 --> 00:53:19.150 have kids. We should do our own kids camp. Isn't 00:53:19.150 --> 00:53:21.030 that botches yearly? Like a botches kids camp. 00:53:21.550 --> 00:53:23.829 Well, that's just like a yearly trip for all 00:53:23.829 --> 00:53:25.190 of us. I don't know if that would necessarily 00:53:25.190 --> 00:53:29.570 be a kid's camp, but I'm fine with that. I was 00:53:29.570 --> 00:53:32.550 just thinking maybe there would be one that we 00:53:32.550 --> 00:53:35.730 know that Shane can get to with his kids and 00:53:35.730 --> 00:53:39.710 you with yours. Oh, she wants nothing to do with 00:53:39.710 --> 00:53:45.789 camping. I could borrow my dad's horse trailer. 00:53:46.949 --> 00:53:51.030 It's an empty house with just her and the dog. 00:53:51.500 --> 00:53:54.719 for a weekend and it's like perfect all of the 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:59.019 things that cause her headaches me and the boys 00:53:59.019 --> 00:54:04.980 gone yeah that's also nice too getting that little 00:54:04.980 --> 00:54:09.119 that little piece yeah cause it's a win win she 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:13.340 gets her wind down time and I get my one on one 00:54:13.340 --> 00:54:19.099 time with the kids cause right yeah I have uh 00:54:20.219 --> 00:54:24.460 I think right now with him his age, we talked 00:54:24.460 --> 00:54:26.420 about me maybe going to Drummond. And I talked 00:54:26.420 --> 00:54:29.280 to Sian about that today, by the way. And I talked 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.059 to her about maybe doing that. And she's like, 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.019 you're not going to Drummond without me. Yeah. 00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:34.760 I was like, that's funny. Alex said that exact 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.679 same thing. He's like, she's not going to want 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.860 you to go. Well, we did Drummond last year and 00:54:39.860 --> 00:54:41.960 stayed in a cabin because we were out there with 00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:45.380 the in -laws. And it was when I still had the 00:54:45.380 --> 00:54:47.780 disco. And I was like, we should take the disco 00:54:47.780 --> 00:54:52.960 for this. Because you can't go anywhere on Drummond 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.500 without some type of off -roading. She's like, 00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:02.840 we'll pay three times as much in gas, and if 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.539 we have to haul it back, it's going to be a pain 00:55:06.539 --> 00:55:10.239 in the ass. I'm like, fair enough. It is a Land 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:16.329 Rover. It is over 200 miles. So if you're not 00:55:16.329 --> 00:55:25.789 going to be gone until June, yeah, or Kia. Send 00:55:25.789 --> 00:55:32.710 their diff lock. Torture test. So if you're not 00:55:32.710 --> 00:55:35.769 going to be gone until June, what do you do in 00:55:35.769 --> 00:55:43.289 May 16, 17, and 18? Not a clue. That's a month 00:55:43.289 --> 00:55:49.639 of what? We're doing tentative plans to do a 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:56.719 guy's trip to Drummond that weekend. Okay. Yeah. 00:55:56.820 --> 00:56:09.920 If it's not my drill weekend. Possibility. Triggering 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.679 my ADHD hard. Gotta look up what my... Drill 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.059 weekend is next month. Because we're wanting 00:56:18.059 --> 00:56:20.159 to do a little bit of testing before Leatherwood. 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:31.079 Yeah. Do a shakedown. Yep. But all right, guys. 00:56:31.139 --> 00:56:34.619 It would be fun, but. Oh, yeah. It's getting 00:56:34.619 --> 00:56:37.599 close to that. We're at just about an hour. I 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.500 figure we should talk about music a little bit. 00:56:41.460 --> 00:56:45.159 So I'm. I'm waiting to hear some, I mean, the 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.880 episode with music just came out yesterday, so 00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:51.719 I'm waiting to hear some feedback on that. But 00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.739 we do have a song that at least four people have 00:56:55.739 --> 00:56:58.760 voted, well, four people have voted so far out 00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:03.659 of six. So I think it's a fair point to call 00:57:03.659 --> 00:57:07.559 that option one is the winner, which option one 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:11.480 is the song Getaway by Two Weeks in Nashville. 00:57:13.259 --> 00:57:15.699 So if you hang out until the end of the episode, 00:57:15.780 --> 00:57:19.139 we'll have that playing as our outro. It's a 00:57:19.139 --> 00:57:24.500 banger. Did you vote on that, Shane? Yeah. Yeah, 00:57:24.500 --> 00:57:27.219 okay. You're the other third vote for Getaway. 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.800 I had voted for the other one and then changed 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.579 my vote. It was a hard choice. The AI generated? 00:57:35.340 --> 00:57:38.460 Yeah, yeah, that one. i don't know that it actually 00:57:38.460 --> 00:57:41.019 is i listened to an interview from that artist 00:57:41.019 --> 00:57:44.400 and i know he says he uses ai but i didn't think 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:49.420 it was all ai yeah probably just it's a good 00:57:49.420 --> 00:57:53.280 song here help me clean this up yeah i mean it's 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.059 a good song either way yeah well yeah so and 00:57:57.059 --> 00:58:00.510 these are what these are Local guys or like, 00:58:00.670 --> 00:58:02.849 where are we hearing these from again? Value 00:58:02.849 --> 00:58:05.530 for Value. So we're a Value for Value podcast. 00:58:05.610 --> 00:58:08.789 You can boost into us. These guys put their music 00:58:08.789 --> 00:58:10.929 out and wait for people to boost them if they 00:58:10.929 --> 00:58:15.590 think that they have any value. So whatever song 00:58:15.590 --> 00:58:18.150 we select, I send them 600 sats, throw it on 00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:21.190 here, and then send a link to their song so the 00:58:21.190 --> 00:58:25.969 listeners can boost if they feel the urge. Yep. 00:58:28.369 --> 00:58:31.630 It's just a cool way that we can add music to 00:58:31.630 --> 00:58:34.969 our podcast without stumbling on copyright stuff. 00:58:36.329 --> 00:58:42.210 Yep. There you go. You heard it here first. Yeah, 00:58:42.210 --> 00:58:46.010 the value for value world is pretty wild. There's 00:58:46.010 --> 00:58:47.610 a lot of stuff going on over there right now. 00:58:49.750 --> 00:58:53.150 Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I hear some people maybe 00:58:53.150 --> 00:58:55.690 wanting to switch to it too, so maybe it's going 00:58:55.690 --> 00:58:57.789 to be gaining in popularity soon. I'm hoping 00:58:57.789 --> 00:59:01.690 because it's not a perfect system, but it's a 00:59:01.690 --> 00:59:05.650 lot better than what we're using right now. Yeah. 00:59:07.150 --> 00:59:11.449 Sweet. That pretty much wraps up our hour, guys. 00:59:11.750 --> 00:59:13.409 Appreciate you, Shane, for popping in today. 00:59:13.469 --> 00:59:18.360 Yeah, anytime. Always fun to have Shane on. Oh, 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.280 always. It was actually good to hear the Land 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.780 Rover story, so it helped fill our hour. So, 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.420 yeah, man, I appreciate you guys for listening 00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:31.039 to our Botches podcast, and we'll see you next 00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:32.940 time. And the boy is sad that we're leaving. 00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.880 Yeah, he's always sad. All right, catch you guys 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:51.820 later. See you. Don't ask me why Don't hate me, 00:59:51.940 --> 00:59:56.440 I'm not the enemy Just gotta get things off my 00:59:56.440 --> 01:00:07.840 mind Numb my brain I gotta get away I need a 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:15.659 holiday Cause I'm not okay I'm going out for 01:00:15.659 --> 01:01:22.960 a while I just need some space