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do with the outdoors today we've got one of the
not normally on the podcast botches we've got
shane he drives one man we have a lot of third
gens and botches yeah how did that even happen
you converted me so He drives probably the nicest
third gen of the group in terms of shape. I would
say mine is probably more built than Shane's,
but Shane's definitely is in much, much better
shape. Yeah. She's clean, but I don't keep it
that way. He likes them a little dirty. So, yeah,
so we had a fun topic set up that kind of required
Gavin. So I guess we'll put that one off a little
bit, but we can at least hear a little bit about
Shane, a little bit about Shane's Forerunner,
a little bit about Land Rovers, and Shane's very
sketchy off -road trailer. Oh, yeah. If you want
to go down the rabbit hole of weird regs, I've
had all of them, man. Okay, now I got to hear
the rabbit hole. What is the weirdest rig you've
had? A lifted Jetta sport wagon. Okay, what year?
2013. So the Mark VI with the five -cylinder.
I had it on two inches of lift, all -terrain
tires, rally setup. It was a fun one. Those things
aren't all -wheel drive. They're not all -wheel
drive, right? No, it was not the all -truck.
They didn't bring the all -wheel drive option
until the Mark 7s. Yeah, because I sold and had
a 2013 Sportwagon TDI. It wasn't mine. It just
lived at my house for three months until it sold.
Yep. They're very nice little cars, man. I was
happy with it. I went from, first got into, I'll
say air quotes here for the listeners, wheeling
in a clapped out second gen Forester. oversized
all trains on and did the Subaru trash thing
of just drifted around, break something every
single time I took it out and tell myself it
was the best thing that ever happened to trails.
So I had a, I had a buddy, uh, down in Arizona.
He quote unquote, like to go rally driving in
his 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer. Not Evo. Lancer.
And that's what I envision when I think of you
with your Subaru. Oh, I'll have to send it in
the group chat for chapter art or something.
Just all my terrible rigs. But yeah, she was
exactly what you think of when you think of a
trashy... off -road wannabe rally Subaru. Did
you have the big lights on the grill? Not on
the grill. On the bumper. Definitely fast -mounted
some trail lights. Head -ditch lights. Roof rack
with ammo cans bolted on. I get a kick out of
people that do the great big red horns behind
the grill. Like, there's... There's no point
in them things. But they look good. They look
so good. Yeah, I... I will say I had those on
my WRX swapped out back, though. Hell yes. You
gotta be careful, because you see, I have a ricer
side, and it's starting to sneak out. From ricer
to Euro trash to Euro hillbilly. Wait, what was
the Euro hillbilly? Oh, the Land Rover. The disco.
Yeah, you're... I will say that I still think
of you as the disco guy. Yeah, oh yeah. So...
That was our first trip with him, so... See,
our first... I think our first trip with you
was our first Minton State Tourist Trip. It was.
Tinkup. Yeah, we did the night run out at...
Tinkup. Not Skitter. Tinkup. That was Tinkup,
yeah. Yeah, Tinkup. I wanted to call it Yankee
Hills or Yankee Springs, and I knew that was
not Yankee. But yeah. No, at least Tinkup's worth
going to. Tinkup. If it's your very first trail,
tin cup is not bad. Yeah. Tin cup in the winter
can be a lot of fun. It can be. We've done it
in the winter a couple of times, and I'd say
that in the winter it's fun. Early spring, before
it gets all rutted up, it's really fun. Yeah.
But it's not challenging at all. No. It's just
slightly loose sand, and it's a big open trail.
Mm -hmm. It's nothing that I would travel long
distance to do. No. No, but wide open, it worked
well with the Disco since it had a clearance
of like nine feet. Yeah. I think I could have
probably done Tink Cup in my crew cab long bed
F -350. Yeah, probably. I could have probably
done it in the Ram. It's pretty open. Yeah. That
probably would have been fun in my crew cab long
bed F -350. I could probably have done the whole
trail at like 60. Yeah. Just vomit. Which is
why Derek likes it. Yes. Probably why. Except
Derek wouldn't have been able to keep up with
my power stroke. But I would have been throwing
the body off the frame. Yes, you would have.
It would have been so sketchy. Oh, is that my
board falling out from underneath us? Was that
my two by four that holds the cab up? That's
not good. Oh, that poor truck. I did. I was driving
down Apple like a month ago and it passed me
going the other direction. I was like, how the
fuck is that thing still on the road? Like, they
hadn't done anything. It still had the same fenders,
the same hood, the hood stack. I mean, all of
it was still there. Same cab. That's the whole
reason I sold it is I couldn't find a cab. Yeah.
Yeah. Sketchy rigs, man. Sketchy rigs are the
best. Yeah. I've had a lot of fun with my sketchy
rigs, and now I don't know what to do being in
a nice one. We just have to make it sketchy.
I'm working on it. So, let's see. I haven't seen
you in a hot minute, dude. What fun mods do you
have lined up for the Forerunner? Really, the
big one right now, after... poker run was just
I desperately need a full size spare yeah are
you watching a deep eating and saying like I
don't have one of those I would be shit out of
luck two hours from home so next on the mod list
are pretty boring, would be full -size spare,
then winch, and working on a comm setup. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, definitely need to get that comm
setup, because you using handhelds kind of sucks.
Yeah. It's a pain, especially when I'm bouncing
around with a six - and a three -year -old. Oh,
yeah, they just had birthdays, didn't they? Joseph's
is coming up next month, and yeah, my William
turned three back in October, and I'm almost
done with having to pack diaper bags for off
-roading, which I'm stoked about. I wish that
Jackson would just learn that the toilet is not
a scary place. The kid is three. He can quit
going to the bathroom in his diaper. I mean,
the go -to move with Joseph was going off -roading
and telling him, hey, you can just go on a treat.
And now the problem is, playing around in the
backyard today, he's like, it's too warm to pee
inside. I mean... All right, bud, I did this
to myself. Just move out somewhere where that's
not a problem. Like, kids can just drop their
pants here and it's fine. I drop my pants here
and pee. Yeah, good chance my neighbor was doing
the same thing on the other side of the fence.
Yeah, those are my upcoming mods for the Forerunner.
And then my loving Ghetto trailer that I picked
up for $300. I love your ghetto trailer. I'm
not going to lie. For $300 and not being a truck
bed trailer, it gets the job done. It's just
an old steel tub, a 4x8 utility trailer. Tires
were dry rotted to hell when I got it. I so picked
up a set of takeoffs from a guy who was parting
out a TJ. So those dry rotted tires, are those
the ones that ended up at my house? They are.
I should get those back to you so I don't have
to look at them anymore. I will throw them in
the back of the ghetto trailer and take them
straight to Lucky's when I go to. Pull a spare
for mine. Yeah, I've ended up with so... Muted
out. Sorry about that. I had a cough sneak up
on me. I have ended up with so many freaking
tires, dude. Like, we were cleaning the shed,
getting ready for summer wrenching, and... What
did I end up with? So I've got a full set of
mud terrains, or 35 mud terrains. I've got a
full set of stock third -gen 16s. I've got a...
I've got my last Tacoma stock wheels, too. A
set of those. Do I? Yeah, I think so. I don't
think we got rid of those yet. I wonder where
those are. It was one of the stacks that was
in front of the shed for a while. You did get
rid of them. You put them on the old Tacoma when
you took your wheels off. Oh, yeah. No, you're
right. I forgot. I forgot. Yeah, you're right.
And then, yeah, in the shed, I've got an entire
set of quad 442 wheels and tires that are brand
new but dry rotted. Mm -hmm. But I can't, and
I'd like to get rid of stuff, but like the 442
wheels, I can't get rid of those. They're 14s.
You can't find them anywhere. No. Yeah, so I,
but we got to do something because I'm drowning
in tires. And I've got so many rotted out spares.
How did I end up with so many rotted out spares?
Because we worked on vehicles that had rotted
out spares underneath. Yeah, these are bad. Well,
you needed trailer tires. I had two rotted -out
trailer tires. Yeah, I got those. You got two
rotted -out trailer tires. Yeah, that was quite
the experience, having two tires blow on the...
What expressway were we on? 131. Was it 131?
Yep. That was after 3rd Gen Weekend. Yep. Which,
are you excited? If I can make it, yeah. Dude,
dude, we planned it for that weekend for you.
I know, I'm the worst. The Navy has ruined any
chance of me being fun. So, why? You got stuff
coming up that might be that weekend now? Possibly,
yeah. do what I did when I was in the reserves
and tell them to get back. It's, it was really
easy when I wasn't in charge of the unit. Yeah.
Oh, you're at, you're actually like important
now. Yeah. I'm, I am the staff MCO for the unit.
So see, that's where you fucked up very much.
So yeah, still not a lot of pay and an obscene
amount of responsibility. You either die a hero,
E4 Mafia, or you live to be the villain. And
you have lived to be the villain. Yeah. I will
say you are the most E4 NCO I've ever met in
my life. Oh, yeah. Stick to my roots. Yeah, I...
I don't know, man. I had this one NCO when I
was in the reserves. This dude was the most E4
dude. I can't even say E4 dude. He tried to be
a high -speed E5, but he'd only been in the Army
for three years, got fast -tracked to E5, and
then had no idea how the Army worked. He joined
the Army after I got out of active duty. That's
how fresh this dude is. He tried to talk down
to me like he was better than me, and I was like,
Oh, dude, I went off on him one day. I was just
over it. It just... That's that crap, man. If
you got a specialist who's been in the Army longer
than you, you better show a little bit of respect.
Especially if that E4 was active duty before
they came to your unit, and you're just a fresh
E5 that was never active duty. Shout out my buddy
Lance Corporal Retired. But yeah, I check all
the boxes for your dirt bag E4. Got a jacked
up 4Runner. I've got a Mustang. It's a six cylinder.
And my wife and I got married like basically
once I met her. Hell yeah. I mean, I can't...
Okay, I knew my wife for a while, because we
dated in high school. But I got out of the army,
and like four months later, we were married.
After getting back together, when I got out of
the army. Yeah, I was fresh boot, and just like
three months in, I'm like, oh, it's time to buy
a ring. I was engaged right out of AIT to a girl
from Washington. She was in AIT with me. We met
in AIT and we got engaged. Dumbest decision ever,
dude. That relationship was doomed to fail. I'm
glad we didn't get married before I left for
Korea. But the BAH. Dude, listen. I'll tell a
little bit of the story because there's no way
in hell this girl's listening. But... So, I was...
It was 4th of July, which 4th of July for us
comes up... In Korea, it came up a day before
4th of July in the States. So, we were... For
us, it was like midday. We were at an amusement
park and she'd been blowing up my phone. She
was at some fireworks show in... I want to say
Seattle. And... I was like, hey, I'm getting
on a roller coaster. I won't be able to respond
for like five minutes. By the time that I'd gotten
off the roller coaster, I had like 18 missed
calls, a hundred and some texts. She'd broken
up with me like 20 times and gotten back together
with me the same amount of times. And my dumb
ass didn't see this as a sign and just stayed
with her for another four months. Hey, you might
beat me on the boot scale. Dude, I was boot as
fuck. Then, when I got out of Korea and went
to Fort Huachuca, Arizona, I drove down in my
four -cylinder TJ and pretty much immediately
bought a Cobra. An old Cobra. At least, okay.
So I'll say that my Mustang wasn't as boot as
most Mustangs because I only had a 3 % APR instead
of a 30 % APR. And my Mustang wasn't brand new.
I only paid $10 ,000 for it. And I sold it for
$35 ,000. I do dodge on the new Mustang and APR.
Mine's a 66. The six -cylinder is somewhat justified.
Can we at least V8 swap that thing? It was on
the to -do list at one point. Can we add it to
the to -do list again? After I get it running
again. Can we 4 .7 liter Toyota V8 swap it? Okay,
can we do a... I'm all for the weird engine swaps,
but there's some things that are just sacrilege.
What engine was it that they put in the Mustang
from Fast 3? 2JZ. Was it a 2J? I feel like it
was Nissan, though, wasn't it? It was a Nissan,
I thought. I thought it was an RB of some kind.
I don't know. That was like 20 Fast and Furiouses
ago. Yeah, but it was the best of them. Yeah,
it was an RB26. I wonder if they actually made
that car. Hold up. All of those cars were powered
by a 403 cubic inch V8. Those engine sounds,
all of them were dubbed over. Dude, I don't know.
I think your Mustang needs to get an RB or a
Toyota. I think you just have... A 2J would be
cool, dude. Okay, fine. A 2J would rip butt.
Right now it's on the original 200 cubic inch
i6. What if we Barra swapped it? Because then
it's at least sticking to the Ford thing. It's
just way freaking cooler. At my last company
I had a buddy that was trying to get me to drop
the engine from his Fox body. into it because
he had a twin turbocharged five oh that would
have been decided to go the supercharger route
like and then i had kips and said like oh i don't
need a screaming little death trap yeah okay
but like your kids are three and six they want
their dad to have a cool car yeah And that's
when I got the rover. Hey, honey, I'm getting
a Land Rover. And then come home in my jacked
up shoebox of a disco. Yeah, I told my wife,
yeah, I'm going to go get this for a show. I'm
going to go to this 90s Ford Taurus show out
in Chicago. It'll be great. And I came home in
a rotted out third gen 4Runner. Me and my friend
Cody, when we went on that trip, we joked that
we were the cavemen leaving the cave to come
home with the... We were going hunting. Yeah.
Our hunting trip went well. We came home with
a piece of junk. I don't know. I think the 4Runner's
treated me well. We've done a lot of patching
and a lot of repairs, but at the end of the day,
it's been a pretty good performer for the most
part. I've been happy in the 4Runner because
I've done significantly less repairs than I did
in the Disco. But you also never take your 4Runner
out. We never see you. What the hell, dude? Hey,
I'll give you my drill weekend. Oh, I know. I
know. Well, you just got to tell them ahead of
time that someone who's just below you needs
to take over for April 25, 26, and 27. Okay,
at least 26 and 27. You can go on Friday. Yeah.
As the CEO for Botches Off -Road, I will write
a... Is that what they're called in the Navy?
I don't even know what you guys call stuff. Yeah,
shit. I'll get you some documentation saying
that your release to the company of Botches Off
-Road will make you wear our unit patch for those
three days, and I'll make sure to send pictures
to your... to prove that you are actually doing
your job. Yeah. And your job is community outreach
for third -gen forerunners. Yep. Yeah. I'll write
them a memo. Oh, don't tempt me. I'll write a
citation for it. Do it, dude. Do it. That'd be
so funny. Yeah, and I'll make sure that you get...
Do you guys have COAs? Yeah. Okay. I'll make
sure you get either a COA or an ARCOM. I'll have
to send it up the channels, though. Though you
are an NCO, so there's a better chance of you
getting an ARCOM than a COA. Ah, enamel stick.
Purple heart. Looking at how our weekends go.
Yeah, based off of a first third gen weekend,
possibly. I think there will be a lot less of
that this year. I think we're a little bit better
set up than we were last year. And your alternator
isn't questionable years old anymore. Yeah. Now
that it's getting warm, I'm going to go to a
pick and pull and just grab a handful of spares.
We were just talking before we started recording
about CV axles. I was like, Mark, too bad you
can't just share. I've got like five of them
now. Aren't our boxes Navy boxes or were they
Air Force? I can't even remember. I don't remember.
I'm really, I've got a whole, I've got a whole
military crate full of CV axles right now. Like
there's so many of them. I've also got one filled
to the top with a fourth or third gen forerunner
knuckles. So you can really see where my priorities
lie. However, I cannot find the knuckle that
I broke. I'm wondering if it accidentally got
scrapped. So there goes our trophy. Yeah, we'll
have to start a new one. We'll just swap it out
for a bent Tacoma knuckle. No, no, no. That's
my own trophy for dumb shit. Yeah, third gen
4Runner weekend, that'll be fun, man. I'm hoping
that this year more than just us show up. Yeah.
We definitely need to... share it on a couple
different pages than just ours yeah i so i shared
it to third gen forerunner enthusiast right and
this this dork i'm not gonna make fun of him
this dude comments right so it's third gen forerunner
enthusiast the dude comments and says is this
oh and the the group the name for the event is
third gen forerunner camping weekend So he messages
me or he comments, is this just for third gen
forerunners? Like, no, I just posted it in a
third gen forerunner group and named it third
gen forerunner because it sounded fun. Yeah.
It's for TJs. Yeah. See, would TJs be considered
third gen, though? I guess JK would be more third
gen than TJ. If CJ is first gen... Well, I guess
MJs exist, so TJ would be third gen. Because
you've got MJ, CJ, then TJ. Oh, YJ. Damn it.
There's a YJ. So YJs would be third gen. So,
in a couple third gen weekends, when we have...
the botches chimera build with us, which is a
third gen forerunner frame with a body. It'll
literally, it'll literally be a third gen weekend
vehicle. Beautiful. All right. So other than
your sketchy trailer that you can do anything
to your sketchy trailer. Yeah, it's got a rack
on top for storage. They fold up a cover lid.
I don't want to do anything else to it, because
right now it's a piece of junk, and if it breaks,
it breaks, and I don't care. So where are we
slapping the rooftop tent? On the 4Runner or
on the trailer? I'm getting a rooftop tent. Oh
my god. Camp on the ground. Are we all kind of
anti -rooftop tents? I think so. Alright, so,
what is your reasoning for not getting a rooftop
tent? Disability. You think I want to climb into
something ten feet off the ground to sleep? You
know, that is one of my arguments against them
as well. It sounds like my knees would be killing
me after the first couple of nights. Also, winter
camping in a rooftop tent just doesn't sound
all that great. The snow is a really good insulator,
so why would I want to get rid of that and replace
it with air rushing underneath my tent? Regardless
if you've got a foam cushiony mattress or not.
it's inherently going to be colder in that tent
than a ground tent. Especially if I can just
run a wood stove in a ground tent. Yeah. Then,
obviously, cost is a big factor in why I'm not
too interested in them. Because why do I want
to spend $4 ,000 on a tent that's smaller than
my $100 tent from Walmart? Yeah. Yeah, because
I was looking at a surplus store, and they had,
like, a... I'm trying to remember what the...
It was a giant military tent. You could put a
hot... It was pretty much a hot tent. You could
put a stove in it, and they only want, like,
a thousand -something based off conditions. That's
what I'm saying, man. Like, you can get even...
Yeah, military tents, you can get those big enough
to sleep 20 to 30 guys for less than one rooftop
tent. I want to say it was, like, a 12 by 12.
Like, that's a good -sized tent, man. Mm -hmm.
Yeah, I... Does the Navy even do field exercises,
or are your field exercises on a ship? Hey, like,
I'm Blue Side Navy, so I don't do field exercises
unless we're doing joint task training. But,
like, Seabees, Corpsmen, any of your Greenside
or Gator Navy, they do. Plenty of field exercises.
I have never heard this term, blue side or green
side. Hey, well, I'm blue. I got it figured out.
Right, right. I got it figured out, but I didn't
understand that you had Navy personnel that were
basically Marines. Yeah, like we have construction
battalions or all of the Marine Corps medical
is Navy. Why do the Marines even exist? I've
been trying to... So, like, all Marines, I'm
sorry. I'm going to shit on you a little bit.
Why do the Marines exist? I mean, think about
it. You've got the Navy that does water. The
Navy has people that go on ships that do pretty
much the same job a Marine would. But then if
they're on the ground, they do pretty much the
same job that the Army does. The Army also has
divers, so you can't even use swimming as an
excuse. Yeah, but your divers aren't as good
as our divers. I don't know. Our divers are pretty
good. But you see what I'm saying, though? Like,
really, why do we have our Marines? Is it just
because I don't even know? And then, to go even
farther, they're called the few and the proud
or whatever. I know so many Marines. I know more
Marines than I know soldiers. And apparently
soldiers are everywhere? Like, what the heck,
dude? And then when I'm talking to a Marine,
they're like, yeah, my company was like 300 people.
And I'm like, dude, my companies were like 40
people. Mark's just like, I have no idea what
these guys are talking about. Yeah. Never had
the calling. You should have. It's the best thing
I ever did with my life. Yeah. It really set
me up to get out and be an IT guy, and instead
I farm turkeys. So that's great. It's kind of
like I'm going to war every single day. Because
those turkeys want me dead way more than anyone
else ever has. They're miserable animals. Dude,
turkeys are so dumb. And we talk about it enough
on the podcast. Everyone should know turkeys
are really, really dumb. Alright, so now that
we've went on a very long tangent about anti
-everything military. So, the Forerunner has...
You got a couple of things set up for the Forerunner.
You're not going to do nothing to the sketch
trailer. Can we at least make the sketch trailer
less sketch by putting a botches sticker on it?
Yeah, that's going to happen. Oh, well, then
when you go to resell it, it's worth, like, four
grand. So, like, beautiful. Yeah, the markup.
This was featured on a podcast. Are you at least
going to be able to make it to botches yearly?
Because we definitely moved that for you, too.
One's yearly? That's... september right yes yeah
okay i'm kind of bummed if i'll be bummed if
you miss third gen weekend yeah i right now my
whole summer a slash spring is like non -existent
june is potentially completely off the table
august is off the table yeah how how many years
you got left Ten. Unless I break myself so badly
that they say they don't want me. So you joined
15? Or 14? Yeah. January of 15. Man. Look at
this. I was in the service longer than you. And
I didn't go anywhere with my life. Jesus. See,
you die a villain, or you live to be... You die
a hero, or you live to be a villain. Yep, and
I have done that. Yeah, I... Let's see, I joined
June of 14, June 10th of 2014. So when you joined,
you said January of 15? Did you leave for boot
camp January 15, then? Yeah, I... They went in
and signed probably about when you shipped. So
yeah, I would have been... When you left for
boot camp, I was in Korea. See, January. So I
would have been on my very first big army field
exercise by that time. which was a very wild
experience because we were sent to a rock army
base and they literally picked up all our equipment
with helicopters and set us on a mountaintop.
And going from basic and AIT to suddenly being
flown around in helicopters is a very fun experience,
especially when you're just a comms guy and you
should not be doing that. Yeah. Yeah, the stuff
you do that you have no right to do is always
the fun stuff. Not even a little bit. I never
got any sort of helicopter training. Man, I even
flew in a C -137 one time. I had no need to be
on that plane. I didn't have a jump badge or
nothing. Well... I don't think I have anything
else for you there, Shane. Yeah, I've got no
exciting stuff coming up that I'm working on
with the 4Runner other than just hopefully wheeling
it more. And then leaving me the keys when you
go away so I can wheel it. Yeah, just, hey, you
get the kids that come with it. Hey, I told you,
man. Well, you're gone. Just let us know. We
will take your kids out because I don't want
them to miss out on all that fun. Yeah, they're
already itching to hit the trails again because
I haven't been out on a trail run in probably
a good month now. All right, so in April, what
is your current drill schedule in April? Drill
the first weekend of April, then have a wedding
the 12th, then Easter weekend, then Joseph's
birthday party thrown in there somewhere, and
then it's May. So, Easter weekend. Wait, when
is Joseph's birthday? 15th. Well, Easter weekend,
we should do a little bit of trail cleanup. Spend
like an hour Saturday morning or something, or
a couple hours Saturday morning. Yeah, I know
end of this month on the 29th, there's a trail
cleanup out at Yankee. I was going to... take
the trailer out for that one maybe throw chainsaw
and everything in it go try and fill it with
trash because i know last time i took the boys
out there like one of the trails had a couch
off on the side of it yeah yeah i'm thinking
because i want to have our trailer ready to do
that stuff before we go out to do trail cleanup
so i'm looking more for like mid -april like
easter weekend would be really good yeah go and
do like skitter or something yeah i'm thinking
like skitter and like mark's nemesis just make
sure all the trash is picked up in those areas
yeah yeah the trails that i actually care about
that if the dnr shut down i'd be pretty pissed
yeah which around here our trails stay pretty
clean usually if there's trash it's local dumping
it's not wheeling Yeah. Or it's a random third
gen forerunner mirror that got lost on skitter
Hill and buried in the mud because, well, we
have recovered one of them. Yep. Because when
we went back like a month later, we found the
first one that I lost. The second one last I
knew is still buried in a rut on the Hill somewhere.
Yep. Well, if we go do skitter, we can probably
find, A 2004 Land Rover rear bumper mount. Yeah,
I definitely want to get out and get those areas
just kind of kept up. And I'm thinking, you know,
a couple times throughout the summer we'll head
out there and just do a, like I said, an hour,
maybe two hours. We won't do any really wheeling
except for to get out there. Yeah. But. Yeah,
I think that is it then. Do we have any housekeeping
with this, Mark? I guess I should check LB and
see if we got any boosts. Yeah, that would be
a good idea. But I doubt we did because everybody
hates us, so... There are no boosts because you
all hate us. Darn. Except for Magnolia Man. He
has boosted in. We'll give him a pass on the
hatred. Oh, yeah. So on that note, we will catch
you guys later. Yep. Later.