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Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk

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about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,

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tent camping to rock landing, and all things

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to do with the outdoors. Well, it's a weekend

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recap, weekend update, whatever order you want

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to put that. Yep. We should start this with the

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important thing. What are you drinking today?

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I got a Blue Moon. Man, you're getting fancy.

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You even got that nice... botches uh koozie on

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there that you can only get at the botches store

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that is in the show notes i'm uh rocking a age

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-old favorite the el chavo yeah i'll give him

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a little crack too yeah i can't really crack

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into that bottle yeah listen to that crispy goodness

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Yeah, so this was a pretty exciting weekend we

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just had. Yeah. Finally got some testing for

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Leatherwood and with all that we've done to our

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rigs. I have most of my skid plates on. Still

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need some bolts for parts of it. I need to see.

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Actually, we're on the podcast, and I'm going

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to look for it live. I am missing a bushing for

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one of my Icon shocks, and I tried to. I tried

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to make it work by using another bushing from

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another shock, but it's not working. Oh. So I'm

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going to go on Icon and see if they sell just

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the bushing. I would assume so. I'll do this

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later. I'll do this later. But I pulled it up.

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I'll pull it up so I can at least find it later.

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But, yeah, so, I mean, I doubt it's a big deal.

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The bushing works. Everything's fine. It just.

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it could be better by you know having the right

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parts yeah no my rear end worked good um look

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real good from it was it was so noisy dude like

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so we get out on the trail at rocks and valleys

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oh yeah we went to rocks and valleys off -road

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if you uh off -road park if you listen to last

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week's weekend update yeah but so we get out

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on the trail and all i hear is creek Crunch,

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crunch, creak, creak, crunch. And I'm like, what

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the hell? What is broken? And I'm listening.

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I've got my head hanging out the window. And

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it dawns on me it's coming from behind me. And

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I'm like, shoot, man, we just did all that work.

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And then I remembered that uniballs like to make

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noise and pop. And every single junction on my

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rear control arms are now uniballs. Yeah. So.

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I'm going to chalk this up to just uniballs are

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noisy because everything moved properly. Yep.

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I'll say it. It looked like it was working like

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it was supposed to the entire time. It felt great.

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Those unknown shocks that I think might be Toyotex,

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I might replace those. I just haven't decided

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what to replace them with yet. It's not going

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to be... Yeah, springs, I'm sorry. It's not going

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to be OMEs, just because I don't like the OMEs

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as much, I don't think. Yeah. I don't know. We

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could throw the OMEs on and see what they look

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like. Mm -hmm. That sounds like a lot of work.

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Yeah. Like, two hours. Yeah. And 50 beers. Yeah,

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sounds about right. We probably should do it

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before I return the OMEs, though, huh? Yeah.

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yeah yeah be a good idea anyways but yeah so

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forerunners your ends working really well uh

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it was really convenient having my cooler i think

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this isn't the first trip we've done with the

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cooler but because we we took the cooler down

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to missouri with us yeah but i think this is

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the first time other than that we've used the

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cooler other than like shopping because i use

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it every week for shopping yeah Yeah, I think

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this is the actual first time I'm actually off

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-roading with it in there. Yeah, it was pretty

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great. No, no, you didn't have your rig for that

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one. I was going to say New Year's, but I forgot

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you did not have your rig for that one. No, I

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had the black truck. The poor black truck. Yeah,

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so the cooler was pretty great. I did not have

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the packout drawers before, and those were not

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as noisy as I thought they'd be off -road. So

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that makes me pretty happy. Yep. What testing

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did you have to do this weekend? I had to test

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my front end, and I discovered something that

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I need to upgrade as well beyond what I upgraded.

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So anyone listening, if you got your, I think,

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is it force alignment cam bolts it is? I'm trying

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to remember the name of those. Yeah, alignment

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cam bolt eliminator kit or something like that.

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They're pretty much hexagons. You buy them, and

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you actually off -road them hard like what we

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do, you're going to want to get reinforcement

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tabs. I about sheared them off. I bent them.

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That's it. Was because I fat foot my foot off

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the brake pedal onto the gas going downhill.

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Don't listen to him. He makes it sound like it

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was nothing. He jumped that truck. I did not

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jump the truck. He jumped it. I watched. All

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you heard was a loud banging. You assumed I jumped

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it. I don't think I can jump it. No, no, I watched.

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You jumped that truck. You went, whoo, and then

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bam. That's impressive for how up and down we

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were on the Python trail to do that. Okay, so

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he didn't actually jump it. It just, it was,

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I saw part of it out of my rear view window,

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or mirror, and I thought for sure Mark was going

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to die. We'll just leave it at that. This man

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needs to learn that his feet are too big to go

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from the brake to the gas. Yeah. So, luckily,

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we didn't realize it was wrong until we got going

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away from Rocks and Valleys. We pulled into the

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gas station. My brother needed to use the bathroom.

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And we went to pull out. I was like, shh. Shit,

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why am I rubbing? I should not be rubbing. We

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fixed the rubbing. And we looked and realized

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my cam bolts were not in place at all because

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the tabs bent over. I can't. So I'm not sure

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if this happened at Rocks and Valleys, because

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if you look at that tire, dude, you wore that

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way too much for the, like, 20 miles that we

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drove. You also got to remember, that's a tire

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that had the bad wheel bearing that's been in

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an accident. That tire's been through hell and

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back. Multiple times since I forgot them. Why

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are we so hard on our tires? But yeah, you're

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right. You're right. You're right. But yeah.

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No, it was a really fun trip. I think... I'm

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not a huge park fan. I don't know. Parks are

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fun. I just can't say that parks are like my

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first choice on... somewhere i would go yeah

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but rocks and valleys is one that i've always

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just kind of enjoyed i thoroughly enjoyed it

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i love that joe and derek do this for their birthday

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every year oh yeah it's the best yeah they yeah

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and they go in there with mst's fun oh yeah I

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think those two trails we took was good enough

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for us for that day because those are some black

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diamond trails, though, right? Yeah, I would

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have been fine with keep going. I just wanted

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to take a break. But then you're like, man, I'm

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so beat up. And honestly, I'm glad that you just

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had a feeling you should stop because who knows

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what would have happened had you kept wheeling

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on those cam bolts being screwed up. Yeah. It

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would probably have been way worse than what

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it ended up being. I can't believe how much they

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bent it, though. I know. I'm glad I was able

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to bend it back in place with a tiny pry bar

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and a hammer. I'm glad we were able to also,

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because I was really concerned that it was going

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to have to get told out for how bad that was.

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And the whole time that we were bending those

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back to where they had to go, I was scared to

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death that they were going to snap off. I know.

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Oh, you weren't getting towed out. You would

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have driven at home either way. I just feel like

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we really fucked something over if I drove how

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it was. We would have got them as close as they

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could have gone and tightened the piss out of

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them with the impact. Yeah. I just... I wasn't...

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Yeah. I didn't want to have to drive... We were

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like an hour and a half from home. I didn't want

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to drive the hour and a half back to my... to

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get my dad's truck and unload that stupid van

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my sister still has on the trailer. Yeah. Just

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for us to drive an hour and a half back to get

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your truck, then an hour and a half drive back.

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Yep. I just need to hurry up and get a tow rig.

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Yep. Definitely need to get that somewhat soonish

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if possible. Especially if we're on a wheel like

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we do. Sounds like it's going to be like July,

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August, maybe September. That sucks. But maybe

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when we do the botches yearly trip, maybe I'll

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be wheeling my tow rig instead of the 4Runner.

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Yeah. Because wheeling your tow rig is definitely

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what you should be doing. You definitely should

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always wheel the tow rig and leave the wheeling

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rig at home. Yes. well in that case what are

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your upcoming weekend plans oh for me i'll be

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wrapping up my comms or my nav system all those

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came in finally all my mounts sally i don't think

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we're gonna be fixing or putting the reinforcement

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tabs on yet i haven't seen it shipped yet That

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sucks. That does suck. Did you drive it down

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to work this week? No, I did not. But I do have

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to next week. It should be fine. We got it bent

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back into shape. Yeah, as long as I don't go

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off -roading with it. Yeah. And I think we're

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decking the trailer this weekend, because that

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needs to happen. Yeah, that's the tentative plan

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for that. We should make that tentative plan

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a permanent plan. Yeah, I know. Because we really

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need to get that done. I know. We really do.

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Once we get that decked, we can start getting

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mounts on it, and we can start getting packouts

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on it. Mm -hmm. Yeah. I'm kind of thinking I'm

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going to move pretty much everything from the

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back of my Forerunner into the... off -road trailer

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everything except for probably my cooler but

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like my drawers will all go on the trailer yeah

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all that stuff yeah at least for this trip yeah

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yeah probably should do the same thing with the

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kitchen too yeah i'm thinking the kitchen should

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go on the trailer just kind of cut down on weight

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that we have on the trucks because if we don't

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need to have weight on the trucks we should just

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not have it yep i agree with that Yeah. And it'd

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be nice to do it before we leave. That way everything's

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just packed and ready. That way we don't have

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to undo everything when we get to Leatherwood.

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Yeah. See, what else? Oh, we're camping this

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weekend. Yep. Kind of. Kind of. We're testing

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our new gear. Yeah, so Friday night we'll be

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sleeping in my yard around the fire pit with

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our... new individual tents and cots. Did you

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get your cot and pieces figured out? They sent

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them. I finally got ahold of them. They're sending

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them out, but it won't be in for this week. Damn.

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Yeah. You know, when we threw that cot that your

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brother broke away, we probably should have saved

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the end pieces. I didn't even think about that.

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I didn't think it would work. I bet they probably

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would have, but we threw it away now and the

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trash came and got it. Yeah. I didn't even think

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about that. Maybe we could borrow my dad's cot

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and just use the end pieces with your cot. Yeah.

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Oh. Yeah. So, you know how I went up to the surplus

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store Sunday? Was it total waste of time? I don't,

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because I said, Mark, if you're going up to the

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surplus store, let me know. I want to go. Sorry.

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That Sunday was a weird day to wake up and we

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were doing cabinets and stuff. I wasn't sure

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how late we were going to be done with getting

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cabinets for that. Went up there, didn't have

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them, but they had new canvas, so I bought a

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new canvas. New canvas? Oh, for your cot? Oh,

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sick. How much was that? Like 20 -something.

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Oh, that's not bad at all. No. Yeah. Too bad

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they didn't have your end pieces. Did they have

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full cots? Oh, yeah, they did. They had... How

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much were those? Two of them were like $79 .99,

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which is about roughly what I paid for mine,

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the account shipping. And then there was one

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that they had for $100 something because it was

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a little better condition. It almost would have

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been worth grabbing one of those. I know. Then

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we'd have spare parts galore. Yeah. Might still

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do it, though. Yeah, honestly. It's not a bad

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price at all. No. Where's that surplus store

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at? It's up by Claire, Michigan. So that's right

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up the highway from Roxham Valleys. Way out of

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the way for you guys coming home. I was going

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to say, grab one on your way home. Oh, yeah.

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That's like four hours out of your way. That's

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way out of the way. It's past home. Now, I thought

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about biting the bullet, but at the same time,

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I was like, eh, let's see what they say before

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I bite the bullet and buying another full cot.

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But we could have had three of them. I know.

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I know. I couldn't convince Alan to get it. Well,

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either way, Friday night will be fun. Yep. I

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think this El Chavo might be bad. Yeah? Yeah.

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I'm gonna... maybe I'm not drinking a full El

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Chavo tonight. I might not get drunk tonight.

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That one tastes not great. Yeah, no, I think

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Friday will be fun. Yeah, I'm hoping that you

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guys get out early enough that we can actually

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maybe even run down to Home Depot and grab what

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we need. Yeah. I'm thinking about, did you ever

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test if your stuff fits in that packout? Yes,

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I threw my new pad in there and then the tent

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and they fit in there. So my pillow and my sleep

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system should fit in there pretty well too. So

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I think I'm going to grab one of those. I can't

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find your pillow. So I found two sleeping bags.

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Neither one had a pillow attached. I say they

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should have been attached to the bag. Yeah, neither

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one has a pillow attached, so I don't know which

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one's yours and which one's mine. Okay. It's

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weird. I mean, that doesn't really matter, but

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I kind of like to have that pillow. It's in,

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like, a blue bag. Yeah, I'm sure if it's around,

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we'll find it. Yeah. But the podcast listeners

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don't care about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. Yeah, no, Friday night should be fun. I'm

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hoping we can at least go get the stuff to deck

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the trailer. I want to get that small pack out

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to put my sleep stuff in. Because that'd be nice,

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man. Build out an individual camping setup. So

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if I'm going with my wife, I pack all the crap

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I need for her to be with me. But if it's just

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me, I just grab the pack out and toss it in the

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truck. Yep. Because usually if it's just me,

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it's like a last minute thing that I'm going.

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Yeah. Let's see. Do we have any housekeeping

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to take care of this week? So third gen weekend

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is April 25th through the 27th. If you live in

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Michigan or surrounding States, I think we're

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meeting in ever at, I don't know if you remember

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what time I said, probably five or four, maybe

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four or five. I'll look real quick. Yeah, so

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if you're living in the Michigan or surrounding

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areas and drive a third -gen 4Runner, we're meeting

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in Everett, Michigan at Wesco at 4 p .m., and

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then we'll be heading out to the campsite. Saturday,

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we'll just be wheeling. We'll explore Everett,

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see what it's got to offer. Everett's got some

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really, I'm not going to say challenging trails.

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All the trails are... just entertaining and then

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there's one that's somewhat challenging yep but

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it's it's nothing insane um a stock forerunner

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can do 90 of what's in ever so i mean even if

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you're even if you're on a stock build our friend

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uh duncan one of the other botches he did pretty

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much everything in a stock forerunner that's

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open open open yeah um You got Gavin and his

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FJ with the most challenging obstacle there.

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Yeah. Yeah, the most challenging obstacle there,

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Gavin accomplished it in his FJ, and he's super

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proud of it. But, yeah, we'll be doing that Saturday.

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I plan on doing kind of like a potluck dinner

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Saturday night. So if you're going to come, bring

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something to pass, and then we will be convoying

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from Everett down to Riggs and Coffee on Sunday.

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Yep. Our local Rigs and Coffee is one of two

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Rigs and Coffee locations in Michigan. And it's

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pretty baller. Yep. It's a pretty fun time. So

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that will be, again, April 25th through the 27th.

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Do we have any other things coming up? I can't

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think of anything. Definitely check out our store.

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I've been adding stuff pretty regularly there.

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The patches don't come with Velcro, but you can

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just stick them to sticky Velcro and they won't

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come off because the glue adheres to it. The

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stickers are top tier and phenomenal. The can

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-shaped glass is probably my favorite drinking

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glass I've ever had. Mostly because it has the

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Botches logo on it. Yeah, mostly because of the

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Botches logo. And I do plan on getting some t

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-shirts and hoodies in there here soon. It's

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getting to be that camping season where people

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are going to want that kind of gear anyway. Yep.

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And so I should have that stuff up soon. And

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yeah, check out the store. There's cool stuff

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there. And lots and lots of stuff to come. Yeah.

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Now, we should talk about our Botches yearly

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t -shirt. Yes. So, starting this year, as a group,

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we've decided to do a goofy t -shirt for Botches

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members. This year's, which I'll have, Mark will

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put this as chapter art, don't worry. Yep. This

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year's t -shirt is a very ugly Hawaiian t -shirt

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with cartoon versions of our trucks all over

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it. Yep. And then the left sleeve is a sticker

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bomb to match my driver's side fender. It doesn't

00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:09.759
match my driver's side fender, but the idea is

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the same. It's just a sticker bomb. Yep. But

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they're super goofy. It was very fun wearing

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those on Saturday. It was. And next year's t

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-shirt, I can't. I think what I'm going to do

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is I'll add the Hawaiian shirt to the store next

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year. Yeah. So that way, if listeners want one

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of our ugly t -shirts, they can buy it, the previous

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year's t -shirt. Yep. But our idea for next year's

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t -shirt, I got to mess around with that because

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that's going to be freaking sick. It will be.

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I can't wait for next year's. The botches are

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going classy next year. Yes. Not trashy. We don't

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believe in trashy here. Ignore our Hawaiian shirts.

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Those are kind of trashy, but we love it. No,

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we're going full on class. Yep. All right, well,

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I think that about wraps up our weekend updates

00:23:16.609 --> 00:23:21.869
and other fun stuff. So stay tuned, guys. We

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got lots of stuff coming up. I'm sorry Gavin's

00:23:25.349 --> 00:23:28.049
not here today. He just told us last minute he's

00:23:28.049 --> 00:23:32.650
feeling, in his words, sick as fuck. So I'm assuming,

00:23:32.710 --> 00:23:36.569
knowing Gavin, he woke up late, he stubbed his

00:23:36.569 --> 00:23:39.230
toe, and just said, you know what? Fuck those

00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:46.519
guys. We love you, Gavin. So. All right. Well,

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catch you later. Later.
