WEBVTT 00:00:16.329 --> 00:00:19.109 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:19.109 --> 00:00:21.289 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:21.629 --> 00:00:23.949 tent camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:23.949 --> 00:00:27.269 to do with the outdoors. Today we are going to 00:00:27.269 --> 00:00:33.310 do some weekend recaps. I know you guys had a 00:00:33.310 --> 00:00:36.929 pretty eventful weekend. We'll do some recaps 00:00:36.929 --> 00:00:39.109 of that, and then we'll talk about our upcoming 00:00:39.109 --> 00:00:42.850 weekend, what we got planned. I guess, why don't 00:00:42.850 --> 00:00:45.170 you guys start it off, because you guys had all 00:00:45.170 --> 00:00:47.920 the fun. How about you, Alex? Do you want to 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:52.960 lead? It was a big weekend. Friday night. We 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.579 were up late Friday night. Late Friday and Saturday. 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:58.780 Friday and Saturday. It was both late. Two days 00:00:58.780 --> 00:01:04.920 in a row. So Friday, we took all the suspension 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:09.099 off the back end of the 4Runner. Springs, coil 00:01:09.099 --> 00:01:15.010 overs. Springs, control arms. There was something 00:01:15.010 --> 00:01:17.290 else. What else? Shocks. Everything's gone. Shocks. 00:01:17.849 --> 00:01:23.510 Everything's gone. Then we welded in some outboard 00:01:23.510 --> 00:01:27.709 shock mounts, which I was kind of leery on doing 00:01:27.709 --> 00:01:31.609 just because, I don't know, it just seems weird 00:01:31.609 --> 00:01:34.829 to move my shock mounts because they seem so 00:01:34.829 --> 00:01:38.260 fine for so long. Little did I know, they were 00:01:38.260 --> 00:01:41.099 never fine. They are so much better now. Yep. 00:01:41.340 --> 00:01:45.959 And we can't even use the old ones anymore. Oh, 00:01:45.980 --> 00:01:49.959 yeah. The old shock, like the top of the shock 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.000 is still there because we couldn't get to the 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:58.319 bolt, so we just cut it off. So outboard shock 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:03.379 mounts, I got them off eBay for like $35. They're 00:02:03.379 --> 00:02:05.560 supposed to be... They had some really cheap 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:08.159 self -tapper that you're supposed to use, but 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:13.099 we just welded them on. Yeah. And then I got 00:02:13.099 --> 00:02:17.039 my cheap Icon shocks that I got off Marketplace, 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:21.620 and I mounted those up, and they look sick. So 00:02:21.620 --> 00:02:26.500 freaking cool. And then I'm not sure what the 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:29.939 springs are. I cannot find a... I bought some 00:02:29.939 --> 00:02:33.659 OME springs. And I was going to use those. But 00:02:33.659 --> 00:02:36.080 then we were getting parts off the crawler because 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.000 I needed the control arms off the crawler frame. 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.139 And the springs that were on the crawler are 00:02:42.139 --> 00:02:45.879 significantly better progressive springs than 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.580 what I actually bought. So I was like, you know 00:02:48.580 --> 00:02:51.240 what? We'll try them. If they don't work, I've 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.259 got the OMEs to fall back on. Everything will 00:02:53.259 --> 00:02:58.680 be fine. Well, so we got those in. Got the new 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:02.979 shocks on. Now we're into Saturday. This was 00:03:02.979 --> 00:03:06.520 a very long process. There were so many roadblocks. 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.439 Oh, yeah. First, we broke one of the shock mount 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:14.379 bolts off inside the mounting point on the rear 00:03:14.379 --> 00:03:19.120 axle. And I thought for sure I was boned. Yep. 00:03:20.259 --> 00:03:25.639 Then we realized that the shock bushing. or the 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.419 sleeve that was still on the shock mount was 00:03:28.419 --> 00:03:30.659 actually a metal sleeve from a shock bushing. 00:03:30.979 --> 00:03:35.400 So we cut those off. After we got those cut off, 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.000 then we realized that there was actually enough 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.180 bolt to grab onto with vice grips. So life was 00:03:40.180 --> 00:03:42.580 way better. Heated it up with a torch, grabbed 00:03:42.580 --> 00:03:44.460 it with some vice grips, twisted right out like 00:03:44.460 --> 00:03:48.939 it was nothing. So got the shocks and springs 00:03:48.939 --> 00:03:52.979 in, got everything mounted up. At this point, 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:58.590 it was like... one in the morning saturday yeah 00:03:58.590 --> 00:04:02.050 started this at like eight o 'clock on friday 00:04:02.050 --> 00:04:03.770 finished at like one in the morning on saturday 00:04:03.770 --> 00:04:09.250 we beat it just before the time change oh yeah 00:04:09.250 --> 00:04:12.750 i was taking a shower getting ready for bed and 00:04:12.750 --> 00:04:16.829 i was watching a video on my phone and uh i have 00:04:16.829 --> 00:04:20.970 eos it's not it's android but not android and 00:04:20.970 --> 00:04:23.389 all of a sudden my phone flashed and it was like 00:04:23.389 --> 00:04:27.850 uh The time has changed. It is now 3 a .m. Some 00:04:27.850 --> 00:04:31.410 weird announcement came across my phone. I was 00:04:31.410 --> 00:04:36.970 like, what the fuck? Yeah, so it went from 1 00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:42.829 .59 to 3 a .m. It was terrible. So got that done. 00:04:43.009 --> 00:04:48.930 And then I kind of. detailed the truck on Sunday. 00:04:48.990 --> 00:04:51.750 That's all I did. I spent like six hours. I did 00:04:51.750 --> 00:04:54.430 a deep clean on this truck. I vacuumed everything, 00:04:54.829 --> 00:04:58.250 wiped down every surface, put new air fresheners 00:04:58.250 --> 00:05:02.230 in. I made my truck look almost as good as you 00:05:02.230 --> 00:05:05.589 can without replacing my bad, my super terrible 00:05:05.589 --> 00:05:09.930 seats, right? Yep. Put the kid's car seat back 00:05:09.930 --> 00:05:15.459 in, went up to the house, got the kid. ran into 00:05:15.459 --> 00:05:19.279 town to get some food, got back from town. We 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.079 haven't eaten yet. We went and got fast food, 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:23.779 brought it home with us. I go to get the kid 00:05:23.779 --> 00:05:25.480 out of his car seat and he's got his hand over 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:27.540 his mouth. And I'm like, Jackson, what's going 00:05:27.540 --> 00:05:29.519 on, buddy? And he's like, there's something in 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.480 my mouth. And then he projectile vomited all 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:36.319 over my truck. Like every surface you could think 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:40.899 of. And at first, you know, I'm thinking he's 00:05:40.899 --> 00:05:46.290 sick or something. Get him inside. I get the 00:05:46.290 --> 00:05:48.350 truck pulled back apart. I clean it while she 00:05:48.350 --> 00:05:53.829 takes him up for a bath. And we get done, and 00:05:53.829 --> 00:05:55.930 he comes downstairs after his bath, and the first 00:05:55.930 --> 00:05:57.649 thing he says is, okay, I want my chicken nuggets 00:05:57.649 --> 00:06:04.889 now. He was fine. No idea why he threw up. He 00:06:04.889 --> 00:06:10.920 just... Kids will be kids, man. That's... sounds 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:15.699 like a a similar weekend event to mine mine was 00:06:15.699 --> 00:06:22.819 uh fever fever no fever fever and then we're 00:06:22.819 --> 00:06:26.040 like oh he's doing good you know got a hit of 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.779 his breast milk he was like yeah man i'm i'm 00:06:28.779 --> 00:06:32.699 good i'm going to bed we're like sweet man then 00:06:32.699 --> 00:06:37.339 uh then he coughs and i'm like Oh, God, because 00:06:37.339 --> 00:06:41.220 when he coughs, he'll cough until he pukes. So 00:06:41.220 --> 00:06:43.860 he coughs, and I went and grabbed our little 00:06:43.860 --> 00:06:47.959 bowl just in case he pukes because we knew he 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:52.420 had a fever. So I grabbed the bowl, smack him 00:06:52.420 --> 00:06:53.939 on the top of the head, trying to pull it down 00:06:53.939 --> 00:06:56.839 fast enough. Whoops, sorry. Then he stops coughing. 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.379 Everything's good. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.480 Because, you know, at the same time, you know, 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:06.459 I grabbed the bowl. pulled the blanket away because 00:07:06.459 --> 00:07:09.660 i didn't want to puke in on the comforter and 00:07:09.660 --> 00:07:13.420 i'm like all right well okay false uh false alert 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:16.420 false alarm pulled the comforter back put the 00:07:16.420 --> 00:07:19.139 bowl up soon as i pulled the comforter back all 00:07:19.139 --> 00:07:23.540 over our comforter and i'm like oh my god dude 00:07:23.540 --> 00:07:26.699 are you kidding and he's just like he's just 00:07:26.699 --> 00:07:29.100 looking up at me you know his his little doe 00:07:29.100 --> 00:07:32.579 eyes like like yeah yeah you know here's the 00:07:32.579 --> 00:07:37.430 bowl So I get the bowl out, and he doesn't like 00:07:37.430 --> 00:07:40.970 puking in it. I'm like, okay, I get it, but please 00:07:40.970 --> 00:07:46.389 don't continue on a bed. So I am not holding 00:07:46.389 --> 00:07:49.689 his head down in it, but I'm bracing the back 00:07:49.689 --> 00:07:53.689 of it so he can't turn away, and he was pissed. 00:07:54.389 --> 00:07:57.949 I mean, he's like screeching. Too bad the AI 00:07:57.949 --> 00:08:01.910 won't let Mark make a chapter of someone holding 00:08:01.910 --> 00:08:07.000 a kid's... face and vomit yeah i know that's 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.279 what that's what you think it sounds like but 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.180 i'm just holding my hand you know uh vertically 00:08:13.180 --> 00:08:15.920 on the back of his head so he doesn't turn it 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:19.860 anywhere and he stays in front of the bowl well 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.839 The kid gets the idea, for some reason, to put 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.899 his hand in the bowl and splash and play in it. 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:31.459 Oh, my God. I'm like, get your hand out of there. 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.659 So then I get a rag, clean his hand off, and 00:08:33.659 --> 00:08:37.679 I'm like, this is just great. Thanks, man. Kids 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:42.799 are so gross. So we've been making Jackson play 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:47.620 outside since it's nice out now. We let Wrangler 00:08:47.620 --> 00:08:50.059 out, and Wrangler went and peed. And then Jackson 00:08:50.059 --> 00:08:58.820 was like, oh, mud. Dude. Oh, we had Jasper went 00:08:58.820 --> 00:09:01.340 outside the other day, too, and it was nice out. 00:09:01.620 --> 00:09:04.899 By the way, now he's got these little rain boots, 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:08.299 and he loves these boots, dude. He hated shoes 00:09:08.299 --> 00:09:11.740 for the longest time because his first year. 00:09:12.299 --> 00:09:15.279 damn near year of his life he was shoeless we 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.940 didn't have any real i mean we had shoes but 00:09:17.940 --> 00:09:19.399 he always took them off he didn't like normal 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:24.679 kid stuff but but yeah so we we had him out there 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.179 on that nice day and he's walking around we're 00:09:27.179 --> 00:09:30.000 like oh this is so cute so fun he starts walking 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:33.159 towards our mud puddle no no no no No, no, no. 00:09:33.340 --> 00:09:35.259 You start walking towards him to get him back. 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.940 He trips and falls into the mud puddle and just 00:09:39.940 --> 00:09:42.899 starts screeching. And we're like, all right, 00:09:43.179 --> 00:09:46.639 yep, that was fun. Take him inside, clean him 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.080 up. Oh, kids. Yeah, and then, you know, then 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.139 the fever and everything like that. So as far 00:09:53.139 --> 00:09:58.539 as my weekend went, the staying up past 2 a .m., 00:09:58.539 --> 00:10:01.870 not for fun work stuff. putting new shocks on 00:10:01.870 --> 00:10:09.250 your truck, but nursing the boy and making sure 00:10:09.250 --> 00:10:13.110 he's good to go. And that was pretty much my 00:10:13.110 --> 00:10:17.169 full weekend. I tried cleaning my truck out, 00:10:17.269 --> 00:10:20.870 filled a couple garbage bags with fast food and 00:10:20.870 --> 00:10:27.950 monster cans. And, yeah, I mean, I still have 00:10:27.950 --> 00:10:31.649 the winch and stuff in there. so i mean it's 00:10:31.649 --> 00:10:34.309 coming you got to get a day off and a warm day 00:10:34.309 --> 00:10:37.990 at that so i can take the uh take the old paint 00:10:37.990 --> 00:10:40.389 and rust off of it repaint it real quick and 00:10:40.389 --> 00:10:43.350 then uh then i'll put the plates together with 00:10:43.350 --> 00:10:46.090 whatever bolts that we had make sure i have the 00:10:46.090 --> 00:10:49.480 right bolts and then once that's done I'll just 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:51.779 take four or five hours at some point and just 00:10:51.779 --> 00:10:54.899 take the front end off and mount it on. It doesn't 00:10:54.899 --> 00:10:59.539 seem too hard. Derek from Michigan State Tours 00:10:59.539 --> 00:11:03.840 said that he did it himself, so if he can do 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.379 it, I can fucking do it. He also changed the 00:11:06.379 --> 00:11:08.720 brakes on his own, so no one can complain about 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.399 wrenching anymore. If Derek can do it, anybody 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.470 can do it. Are you sure? Dude, I was. Are you 00:11:14.470 --> 00:11:17.009 sure? Did he actually do it on his own? I was 00:11:17.009 --> 00:11:20.409 going to say, I watched it live, too. He had 00:11:20.409 --> 00:11:22.970 help. Everyone has help. He gave him pointers. 00:11:24.110 --> 00:11:27.029 But for the most part, we just threw beer cans 00:11:27.029 --> 00:11:29.009 on top of his truck and made his job harder. 00:11:29.190 --> 00:11:31.669 I forgot about that. I forgot about the beer 00:11:31.669 --> 00:11:34.690 cans. What was the last time? I think it was 00:11:34.690 --> 00:11:38.730 Becker. No, no, no. I think it was a different 00:11:38.730 --> 00:11:41.649 one. I can't remember his name. Derek, maybe. 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.240 While he was working, drilling stuff out, he 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.039 grabbed boxes and styrofoam. Then he was packing 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.879 the back of his truck while he wasn't looking. 00:11:55.940 --> 00:11:59.200 Then, I'm not going to say what else they did, 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:02.000 but they were pulling little pranks, putting 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:07.620 things in places. Drawn penises on the hair intakes. 00:12:07.659 --> 00:12:11.460 We dumped an entire trash can full of empty beer 00:12:11.460 --> 00:12:17.379 bottles on his roof rack that day. That poor 00:12:17.379 --> 00:12:21.980 guy. He gets the brunt of it, I swear. Yeah, 00:12:22.059 --> 00:12:26.659 so past weekend stuff, I think it was Monday, 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.500 I got the ambitions to take my 33s off and put 00:12:30.500 --> 00:12:35.909 the Crawler's 35s on. And lo and behold, if it 00:12:35.909 --> 00:12:39.929 wasn't for, so the crawler had 16 inch wheels 00:12:39.929 --> 00:12:43.509 and I have the Tundra brake upgrade. So I have 00:12:43.509 --> 00:12:46.210 to run a spacer to be able to fit the 35s off 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:49.789 the crawler. And if it wasn't for that spacer, 00:12:49.850 --> 00:12:55.370 I would clear without rubbing at all. So the 00:12:55.370 --> 00:12:58.110 way the 4Runner sits right now, it is ready for 00:12:58.110 --> 00:13:04.899 35s. Yep. And 35s look fucking sick. They do. 00:13:05.419 --> 00:13:07.879 I'm sure I could fit 35s. I should bolt those 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:12.860 up to mine. Yeah. I could see Alex staring out 00:13:12.860 --> 00:13:15.740 into the distance. Let's try. I'm down. Break 00:13:15.740 --> 00:13:17.120 it over. Let's try it. I was about to say, I 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.580 think I'm semi -close. I don't know about you, 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.519 Gavin, but I'm a little closer to that. But I 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:28.309 still wouldn't try it yet. I know I'd have to 00:13:28.309 --> 00:13:31.549 do some cutting and stuff. That's pretty typical 00:13:31.549 --> 00:13:35.470 of running 35s on the FJ. I do have. And I don't 00:13:35.470 --> 00:13:38.230 have any kind of spacers. We do have those 37s 00:13:38.230 --> 00:13:42.610 we could try throwing on there. There you go. 00:13:42.710 --> 00:13:45.269 If 35s will fit, 37s will fit. My lift makes 00:13:45.269 --> 00:13:48.789 37s fit for sure because that's how it works. 00:13:49.149 --> 00:13:52.470 I mean, with 16 -inch, right, with 16, I have 00:13:52.470 --> 00:13:57.759 17, so 16 will give me about an inch less. It's 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:00.519 still the same size tire. It just has more rubber. 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:08.200 Yeah, you're very fair point. I guess I was thinking 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.639 with a smaller rim that it would be a slightly 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:19.279 smaller footprint. Exactly what I'm saying. Because 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:24.759 if you have a 17 with a 35, I guess, in my mind 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.659 when I was thinking about it. that would give 00:14:27.659 --> 00:14:30.240 you like a little bit more but i guess i see 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:31.840 what you're talking it's just like less side 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.879 yeah yeah yeah 17 just means less side yeah like 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:41.679 my uh okay my old j truck i had 37s on that with 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.419 a 15 inch wheel and it's exactly the same size 00:14:45.419 --> 00:14:50.679 as the 37s on the jeep with a 16 inch wheel it's 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.740 just I mean, they weren't exactly the same because 00:14:53.740 --> 00:14:56.759 then you've got a variation in tires. So let's 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.720 say a grappler's 37 is, might be two inches smaller 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:06.899 than an actual 37. It might be a 35 or yeah. 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.179 Cause there's no actual standard for whatever 00:15:09.179 --> 00:15:11.820 reason. No one actually follows a standard. No, 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:17.659 not at all. So what you're saying is if I get 00:15:17.659 --> 00:15:23.299 semi bald 35s, I should be able to do it. Yeah, 00:15:23.460 --> 00:15:25.899 but at that point, you're going to have to replace 00:15:25.899 --> 00:15:28.019 the tire sooner, and you're going to have less 00:15:28.019 --> 00:15:33.639 grip. So, bald 35s are worse than good tread 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:40.860 on 33s. I think bald 35s are the equivalent to 00:15:40.860 --> 00:15:46.340 an all -terrain. So... You can get 35s that are 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:51.700 all -terrain. Yeah, I know. I'm just fucking 00:15:51.700 --> 00:15:54.799 with you. I know, I know. I mean, at that point, 00:15:54.899 --> 00:15:57.139 they're all terrains, right? I mean, they have 00:15:57.139 --> 00:16:00.820 less dig. They have more surface area. Yeah, 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:05.500 I was impressed. The 35s fit pretty nice. I really 00:16:05.500 --> 00:16:08.080 hate that I had to run a spacer because I wanted 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.139 to run them at rocks and valleys, but that can't 00:16:11.139 --> 00:16:15.019 happen. Nope. Plus, we'd have to trailer the 00:16:15.019 --> 00:16:16.879 tires to Roxham Valleys because they're pretty 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.720 dry -checked. Yeah. And they aren't balanced. 00:16:20.659 --> 00:16:24.960 So I drove it in to get... I was working on some... 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.440 Oh, I needed a wrench. I was working on one of 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.980 the curtain motors at the farm, and I needed 00:16:29.980 --> 00:16:32.039 a wrench. So I just jumped in the truck and drove 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.730 it to Gavin's hardware store. And I will tell 00:16:35.730 --> 00:16:39.009 you that I thought I was going to die. I only 00:16:39.009 --> 00:16:42.990 went 45. I think I went 55 once. But when I got 00:16:42.990 --> 00:16:46.309 to 45, it felt like I was going into, like, hyperspace. 00:16:47.649 --> 00:16:50.809 The whole truck's shaking. It's bouncing up and 00:16:50.809 --> 00:16:58.809 down, bouncing me across the road. Dude, it is 00:16:58.809 --> 00:17:00.789 going to shake all your welds apart. Hey, my 00:17:00.789 --> 00:17:02.409 welds are solid. I was about to say, those welds 00:17:02.409 --> 00:17:05.720 are solid. Alan's been getting a lot better with 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:09.420 that. The only weld that wasn't solid, we went 00:17:09.420 --> 00:17:12.500 back over, and it is rock solid now. That bumper 00:17:12.500 --> 00:17:17.359 will never come off my frame. Yep. Yep. I mean, 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.259 the old, if it ain't enough duct tape, just add 00:17:20.259 --> 00:17:24.460 more duct tape thing. Yeah, no, it's... Well, 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:29.259 so, okay, so we have your... Is that pretty much 00:17:29.259 --> 00:17:31.559 your whole past weekend, Alex? Yeah, back... 00:17:32.059 --> 00:17:33.420 Do you have any other kind of fun? Backend rebuild, 00:17:33.779 --> 00:17:36.119 I think. I think that's all we... Oh, we took 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:38.500 the spacers off, too. That makes a huge difference 00:17:38.500 --> 00:17:41.640 in handling. I should have done that a year ago. 00:17:44.380 --> 00:17:48.579 But... Besides helping him with that, I was helping 00:17:48.579 --> 00:17:50.700 my parents remodeling their kitchen right now. 00:17:52.859 --> 00:17:57.460 Which is looking sick. It is. It's doing really 00:17:57.460 --> 00:17:59.500 good. How are we going to get that... How are 00:17:59.500 --> 00:18:01.059 we going to get that counterpiece to my house? 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:06.559 Do you want it? I do. Okay, because last night... 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.579 Does it fit? It might fit. Does it fit in your 00:18:09.579 --> 00:18:11.319 truck? It might. I got to see it with my mom 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:12.819 because she was saying that one of our co -workers 00:18:12.819 --> 00:18:14.920 might have been interested in it, but at first 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:16.900 I was like, I don't know if any of my guys are 00:18:16.900 --> 00:18:23.019 interested in it, but... It... Alex had apprehension 00:18:23.019 --> 00:18:26.920 in there. He goes, I do. I was going to buy a 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.400 cheap desk for my upstairs studio I'm building, 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:33.779 but a free countertop is kind of like a cheap 00:18:33.779 --> 00:18:39.420 desk. I don't know, man. It might go good in 00:18:39.420 --> 00:18:42.579 our shed. It's corner. It's a corner. It's a 00:18:42.579 --> 00:18:48.039 big piece. It wouldn't fit in our shed. It would 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:53.880 make a good news announcer table. Oh, man, it 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:59.220 would for an upcoming botches project. Oh, my 00:18:59.220 --> 00:19:03.660 God. Which I do think is going to be both video 00:19:03.660 --> 00:19:08.619 and podcast format. I can see that. Yeah, I'm 00:19:08.619 --> 00:19:12.539 thinking. Oh, yeah. Complete squirrel thought 00:19:12.539 --> 00:19:14.779 here. Botches listeners, you're getting a little 00:19:14.779 --> 00:19:18.740 foresight here. So we're working on a off -road 00:19:18.740 --> 00:19:22.380 news. Originally, it was just going to be a podcast, 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.819 but I think that it would be really fun to do 00:19:25.819 --> 00:19:28.759 it in the full on news studio style where you've 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.920 got like a green screen behind you. And when 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.940 you're like, and in today's news, and then a 00:19:34.940 --> 00:19:37.099 little box pops up with whatever you're talking 00:19:37.099 --> 00:19:40.079 about. Yeah. Like a family guy when they're talking 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:45.500 about people on family guy. Yep. Yeah. I think 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:48.230 that that. Yeah, because we could feature people 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:50.869 and their breakdowns. Well, I'm not so much looking 00:19:50.869 --> 00:19:54.710 that side. My goal is to cover more national 00:19:54.710 --> 00:19:57.670 off -roading news, so like stuff that Blue Ribbon's 00:19:57.670 --> 00:20:01.130 doing. The Drummond Island drama would obviously 00:20:01.130 --> 00:20:05.470 be covered by that. I don't want to so much cover 00:20:05.470 --> 00:20:12.210 group stuff or Michigan -specific off -road stuff. 00:20:12.329 --> 00:20:16.119 I want to cover... national news events regarding 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:20.680 off -road oh so you're not like a local news 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.099 station we'd be like you're trying to be like 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:25.779 a national i think a local would be hilarious 00:20:25.779 --> 00:20:29.640 i think be like just getting like pictures of 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:33.140 people who got stuck or broke a cd axle i'm like 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:37.559 in other news derrick broke a cd axle on the 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:39.940 way to Rocks and Valleys, didn't even get to 00:20:39.940 --> 00:20:43.079 his own birthday. Like, just stuff like that. 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.579 So, on that... Morphlate finally released a new 00:20:46.579 --> 00:20:49.839 compressor that actually works for more than 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.380 a year and a half. Not that Morphlate doesn't. 00:20:52.380 --> 00:20:54.940 All Morphlate stuff is great. Tyler, don't yell 00:20:54.940 --> 00:20:59.279 at us. It is. But... No, we love Morphlate. I 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:03.920 actually think that... it would be cool. So I'm 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.480 going to start with the national news, but then 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.099 maybe find someone who'd be willing to do local 00:21:09.099 --> 00:21:11.319 news. Cause it'd be cool if we could get local 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.680 news that goes, you know, let's say there's a 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.819 Michigan specific one. There's a California specific 00:21:16.819 --> 00:21:20.259 one. There's a Georgia specific one and they 00:21:20.259 --> 00:21:22.420 all cover their local stuff, but then they can 00:21:22.420 --> 00:21:26.559 show national news stuff on the same thing. So 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.519 just an off -road news. Oh, so you're going to, 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:31.740 yeah. I'm going to try and make an actual off 00:21:31.740 --> 00:21:33.900 -road news. So you're going to be more like the 00:21:33.900 --> 00:21:36.279 Weather Channel. You're going to be like, let 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:39.359 me forward it to my friend Jerry. And Jerry's 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.000 in a hurricane. It's going really good. That's 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.680 exactly what I'm looking for. The swamps are 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:52.059 deep. The alligators are tough. They bit my sidewall 00:21:52.059 --> 00:21:55.660 out. We'll see how it goes. Me and one of the 00:21:55.660 --> 00:21:58.930 other botches who aren't part of... this podcast 00:21:58.930 --> 00:22:01.869 we're kind of banging it out and putting things 00:22:01.869 --> 00:22:05.349 together but i just i think that it's something 00:22:05.349 --> 00:22:07.390 that isn't out there yet and i think that it 00:22:07.390 --> 00:22:10.890 has the potential to be really funny and really 00:22:10.890 --> 00:22:14.250 fun yep because it's going to be like a mock 00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:16.390 news kind of like it's going to be serious right 00:22:16.390 --> 00:22:18.869 all the news is going to be serious but it's 00:22:18.869 --> 00:22:20.950 going to be put forth in a way that's entertaining 00:22:20.950 --> 00:22:23.609 rather than just dry cut news or it's going to 00:22:23.609 --> 00:22:30.799 be so dry cut news that it's funny I would love 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.440 if I had more time and I was getting actually 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.859 paid to do some of this and I didn't have to 00:22:36.859 --> 00:22:40.740 work to do, like, a local podcast like that. 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.299 It would be hilarious. Just cover, like, West 00:22:43.299 --> 00:22:47.500 Michigan Off -Road, Mint State Tours, do, like, 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:52.099 you know, Cindy Pope stuff, you know, cover all 00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:56.069 that stuff there, you know. It's kind of an overarching 00:22:56.069 --> 00:22:59.269 Michigan local news, off -roading news thing. 00:22:59.450 --> 00:23:01.529 And that's the other thing is it's only going 00:23:01.529 --> 00:23:04.190 to have one episode a month because obviously 00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:07.089 it's only off -roading news. Now, granted, when 00:23:07.089 --> 00:23:09.170 I say off -roading news, I mean the stuff we 00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:13.289 do. I mean F1 racing, NASCAR racing. All of it 00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:16.569 is what we're looking to cover. So it'll be an 00:23:16.569 --> 00:23:21.089 entire month's worth of news at one time. I might 00:23:21.089 --> 00:23:24.480 do like a weekly newsletter where... You get 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:26.880 kind of like a newspaper, an off -road newspaper, 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.359 if you will. And you'll get that every week. 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:33.500 And then once a month, we'll have the full hour, 00:23:33.539 --> 00:23:40.420 two -hour, whatever episode. Yep. Yeah. I really 00:23:40.420 --> 00:23:43.559 do. I think a local would be fun if I could do 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:48.579 that. Like, hey, just so you know, the seven 00:23:48.579 --> 00:23:52.369 -hour plane crash trail has finally... close 00:23:52.369 --> 00:23:54.990 this trail and this trail so if you wanted to 00:23:54.990 --> 00:23:58.029 do this trail again it's too late now hey if 00:23:58.029 --> 00:24:02.349 you wanted to do drummond island uh this trail 00:24:02.349 --> 00:24:06.349 is no longer a uh badge of honor trail so don't 00:24:06.349 --> 00:24:09.329 bother yeah you know stuff like that hey if you 00:24:09.329 --> 00:24:12.529 wanted to do prairie and grant don't even try 00:24:12.529 --> 00:24:15.650 it it's just a dirt road now so a muddy dirt 00:24:15.650 --> 00:24:20.019 road but a dirt road yeah i I definitely want 00:24:20.019 --> 00:24:23.000 to see a local thing come out of it, but I think 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:24.940 that putting the framework in for a national 00:24:24.940 --> 00:24:27.180 one is going to be the important first step. 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:33.259 Because then it opens it up where anyone, anywhere 00:24:33.259 --> 00:24:36.319 who wants it has something to fall back on. And 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.059 I'll open it up to the, obviously it'll be value 00:24:39.059 --> 00:24:41.660 for value, just like this show. So they'll be 00:24:41.660 --> 00:24:45.180 able to. put our content into their episodes 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:48.460 and just have the boost split so that we get 00:24:48.460 --> 00:24:50.460 part of whatever they make off that episode. 00:24:51.500 --> 00:24:55.880 So it could become a pretty decent network without 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.740 much effort from each, you know, each individual 00:24:58.740 --> 00:25:03.259 in each location. Yeah. And you could, you could 00:25:03.259 --> 00:25:06.220 cover a vehicle release. That's part of what 00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:11.559 we like when the, Hey, you know, yeah, it'll, 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:13.829 it'll be more, We'll be more of an automotive 00:25:13.829 --> 00:25:16.089 journalist than we are now. Cause right now we're 00:25:16.089 --> 00:25:18.609 just kind of three assholes that bullshit every 00:25:18.609 --> 00:25:26.509 Wednesday night. Yeah. But it's coming together 00:25:26.509 --> 00:25:29.190 slowly. I'm working on collecting sound bites 00:25:29.190 --> 00:25:32.390 right now so that we have like the fun do do 00:25:32.390 --> 00:25:36.349 today's news. Yep. Like those, those kinds of 00:25:36.349 --> 00:25:41.000 things. Yeah, it'll be fun. I kind of want to 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:46.059 do a rip -off of the old NBC intro. I think it 00:25:46.059 --> 00:25:51.259 was NBC. From, like, the 50s. You mean the turkey? 00:25:51.700 --> 00:25:54.480 I think it's ABC's The Turkey. NBC's Peacock. 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.680 No. Oh, okay, yeah, but it could be the turkey, 00:25:59.779 --> 00:26:06.140 though, because, you know, reasons. No, I'm pretty 00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:08.640 sure... Yeah, it's NBC, Sound of the Nation. 00:26:10.299 --> 00:26:16.079 But, yeah, they're... So you can go into AI Sound 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.839 Generator and do, give me Sound of the Nation 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:24.180 song sung by a turkey. Yeah, something like... 00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:26.640 Yeah, that right there. That's what I'm looking 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:31.210 for. That was perfect. Yeah, so we'll... I mean, 00:26:31.230 --> 00:26:32.930 we'll play with it. Yeah, catch me in the recording 00:26:32.930 --> 00:26:36.309 studio. I'll start charging for it. We're going 00:26:36.309 --> 00:26:38.089 to play with it some more. Obviously, I got to 00:26:38.089 --> 00:26:39.950 get a studio built and all that. It's kind of 00:26:39.950 --> 00:26:44.950 just an idea on paper right now. But I think 00:26:44.950 --> 00:26:48.250 that it could be a really fun show. And if we 00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:51.269 do it right, it can get more people interested 00:26:51.269 --> 00:26:57.940 than just our local guys. Other guys who like 00:26:57.940 --> 00:27:00.079 the same stuff we do. Because, like I said, I 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.000 want to cover racing news. I want to cover drift 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.019 news. You do drifting off -road. Everything. 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:14.660 I want everything to be covered. Yeah. Yeah, 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.440 brings up some good points. Some good topics 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.259 to actually bring into it, though. I guess I 00:27:20.259 --> 00:27:21.859 didn't really think about it too deeply until 00:27:21.859 --> 00:27:25.029 we started talking about it just now. Yeah, there's 00:27:25.029 --> 00:27:26.490 some potential there. I think that it could be 00:27:26.490 --> 00:27:33.390 a lot of fun. And it won't take away from what 00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:38.750 we do here. This will always be here. Mostly. 00:27:40.269 --> 00:27:42.769 Some weeks you get me and Mark. Some weeks you 00:27:42.769 --> 00:27:44.549 might get Mark and Gavin. Some weeks you get 00:27:44.549 --> 00:27:47.430 just me. Some weeks you'll get just Gavin. We 00:27:47.430 --> 00:27:49.549 never know what's going to happen. Just whoever's 00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:55.869 available on Wednesday. Yeah, I was sick as shit 00:27:55.869 --> 00:28:00.390 last Wednesday, so I took a bow out on that one. 00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:04.269 I was effectively peeing out of my butt. Been 00:28:04.269 --> 00:28:09.390 there. Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah, it's one 00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:11.470 of those things where you can't sit down for 00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:16.309 30 minutes to do an episode when every two minutes 00:28:16.309 --> 00:28:17.730 you're peeing out of your butt. You just do the 00:28:17.730 --> 00:28:23.210 episode from the toilet. Mute the mic. I bet. 00:28:23.289 --> 00:28:27.009 You'd be sitting there and you'd be like. Imagine 00:28:27.009 --> 00:28:32.509 how great. Imagine the acoustics though. Imagine. 00:28:34.930 --> 00:28:38.950 Yeah. You'd be there and you'd be like. All right. 00:28:38.970 --> 00:28:45.569 Yeah. It's going to be. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. I'm 00:28:45.569 --> 00:28:50.099 good. But then you've got to remember the echo. 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:57.339 Yeah. Yeah, the bathroom's not big enough for 00:28:57.339 --> 00:29:02.720 an echo. Remember, we're a small town here. We 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.859 don't have echoing bathrooms. Dude, when I was 00:29:04.859 --> 00:29:07.269 growing up, we... I don't even have a floor. 00:29:07.430 --> 00:29:09.869 It's still subfloor. When I was growing up, we 00:29:09.869 --> 00:29:13.349 had a half bath at my mom's house. So like tiny 00:29:13.349 --> 00:29:15.970 bathroom, right? But it was tile everywhere. 00:29:16.430 --> 00:29:20.549 Floor, walls, ceiling, everything was tile. And 00:29:20.549 --> 00:29:25.470 that bathroom echoed so bad. Like you'd be sitting 00:29:25.470 --> 00:29:28.809 on the toilet and then you hear it for like five 00:29:28.809 --> 00:29:38.599 minutes. No, I couldn't do that. I like not having 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:42.599 any echoes when I'm taking my morning dump in 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.779 the morning. I'm half delirious when I wake up 00:29:44.779 --> 00:29:47.900 anyway. I don't know about you guys, but I am 00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:52.980 half delirious. I don't know. I am lightheaded 00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:56.099 for the first 10 minutes of waking up. My morning 00:29:56.099 --> 00:29:59.420 routine. And then like I go to is my alarm goes 00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:02.319 off at 430. I spend about an hour putting it 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.319 on snooze. And then finally I roll out of bed 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:10.240 and I stumble to the shower. And even though 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.779 I work with turkeys and they're disgusting, I 00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:15.119 have to take a shower in the morning or I cannot 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:20.920 work for the day. Oh, dude, it's it's at 630. 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.740 I always wake up first alarm or I'm sorry, six 00:30:23.740 --> 00:30:27.519 o 'clock. Always wake up. First alarm. I am not 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:32.900 one of those snoozers. But I get up, walk straight 00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:35.599 to the bathroom, which is literally the next 00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.599 room over, take my morning dump, take my couple 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.480 hits of my vape, and try to stay conscious because 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.640 I'm so lightheaded from getting straight up and 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.880 walking straight to the bathroom and then hitting 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.099 my vape because my heart hasn't started beating. 00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:55.119 I already got a nicotine rush. I clean my ears. 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.400 Brush my hair. Go back to the room. Put my deodorant 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.799 on. Put my shirt on. Put my pants on. And then 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.500 try to leave without kissing my wife. And then 00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:10.539 she catches me. And then I try to give her the 00:31:10.539 --> 00:31:13.779 three quickest kisses I can because I'm like, 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.779 I'm late. And then I leave. And then he smokes 00:31:17.779 --> 00:31:20.900 a cigarette on his way to work. Well, he has 00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:24.599 a monster in the cup holder. And the whole time. 00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:28.279 He listens to the Kyle broadcast where they talk 00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:34.440 about how shitty women are. No, no. Close. No, 00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:37.240 no. As soon as I kiss her, I go out to the kitchen. 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:46.759 I take my heart pill. Then I get in my truck. 00:31:47.420 --> 00:31:51.079 I smoke and drink my Monster until I get to work, 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.329 which is about 10 minutes. I get to work, I sit 00:31:54.329 --> 00:31:57.190 there for 30 minutes and listen to my book, finish 00:31:57.190 --> 00:32:01.549 my monster, continue to smoke, and then I clock 00:32:01.549 --> 00:32:06.109 in for the day. If anybody wants to know how 00:32:06.109 --> 00:32:09.329 Gavin starts his day, that's it, man. That's 00:32:09.329 --> 00:32:11.990 the ticket. That's how you keep going. I also 00:32:11.990 --> 00:32:14.829 should add, I have four devices with alarms on 00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:18.269 them, so I'm snoozing all of them, so it gets 00:32:18.269 --> 00:32:20.710 to a point where it's like every 10 seconds there's 00:32:20.710 --> 00:32:23.569 an alarm going off. And that's when I roll out 00:32:23.569 --> 00:32:30.730 of bed. Oh, yeah, no. I'm a one alarm guy. Don't 00:32:30.730 --> 00:32:32.750 even have to worry about it. Sometimes I wake 00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:36.230 up before my alarm. And don't get it twisted. 00:32:36.750 --> 00:32:41.549 I'm getting shit sleep. Sleep's not good. But 00:32:41.549 --> 00:32:43.710 it doesn't matter. I still wake up with that 00:32:43.710 --> 00:32:49.089 one alarm. So, you know, it's fun. But you know 00:32:49.089 --> 00:32:52.579 what? On that note. Now that you know all of 00:32:52.579 --> 00:32:54.980 our waking habits. Our deep, darkest waking habits. 00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.920 We didn't talk about mine, but mine's not a lot. 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.839 I usually sleep through almost all the alarms, 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.900 and I wake up right at the last second. Very 00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:09.900 shameful. Yep, that sounds familiar. What shameful 00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:16.670 hosts. Yeah, on that. Well, and with that. Yeah, 00:33:16.789 --> 00:33:19.109 yeah, yeah. I beat you to it, Alex. On that note, 00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:21.509 we're going to dial her out. Later. We'll talk 00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:21.950 to you guys later.