Welcome to botches off-road join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories
tank camping to rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors that is really funny
sorry I went right in out of the intro um so I pulled up the transcript from our corn stars
and jelly beans episode and it picked up our intro as being join us as we talked about everything
from gear reviews to trail stories tank camping to rock landing and I'm just thinking about how
much better our show would be if we could camp out of tanks yeah man would you imagine like
offloading our tanks off of our flatbed and camping around Grayling they would be so fucking
pissed right and we'd have a 10s overhead fucking oh dude fucking tank camping is the one time I
think that rooftop tents would be okay because the rooftop tent and a tank would be awesome
yeah oh man that that would change is it I mean there's people that do plane camping so why
couldn't we start a tank camping club yeah well cost is one thing but they're only like a hundred
grand like you don't go for don't you just keep that in your back pocket on like a normal Friday
yeah right for a hundred great you get an EOS to like a fully built out in EOS oh I'm so glad you
said that let me set this business card aside before so I can remember to email this person
because I would like to get them on the show mm-hmm I think you should just put a down payment on
any else and be the any else guy well as I alluded to in a bonus episode last week I do have intentions
of buying a new truck I'm just not gonna talk about what it is yet that is so
and any else sits at about eighty nine thousand as starting price I think is what it is and I'm
looking to spend closer to 20 so that is significantly higher than what I've got well
if you use the 20 as a down payment then it's only like that it's only like 60 do you forget
that I don't have a credit score like it's shot like destroyed yeah they're like yeah we could do
payments for you it's gonna be like $2,500 a month it's like then your insurance your
insurance is gonna be like you have a what my insurance went down so in in grant in dear when
I uh when I bought my J truck my 73 Jeep J4,000 mind you in 73 the VIN numbers are shorter than
modern-day VIN numbers yeah it took us three weeks to figure out how to insure it and mind
you this is a truck so I was getting insurance from USAA and I had my loan for that truck from
USAA but they couldn't figure out how to insure it for like three weeks so they just gave me like a
blanket insurance to cover that my Mustang for three weeks huh yeah I feel like it is just like
an old people's insurance group like you when I hear it I know it's for like military but like
isn't it yeah I just it just sounds like one of those infomercials on TV were like all right
because it is are you 50 years or older you may qualify for USAA life insurance you know that is
actually kind of how the commercials go except it was your grandpa in the Marines then you might
qualify yeah they just want anybody I should I should get a hold of them because uh my grandpa
was in the army and my wife was in the Navy's dude don't USA insurance sucks like I'm not it so they
screwed me really bad when I came home I bought a station wagon and registered it and insured it
here in Michigan and the state needed them to send in proof of insurance and they didn't do it and I
didn't get a notice about this at all until I got pulled over six months later and found out that
my registration was terminated yikes yeah and then I had to call USA and then we proved that I had
insurance so the cop was like well go home but just know your registration is terminated so I
lost I lost a really cool custom plate that said it was like something WGN because it was a really
cool Buick station wagon and yeah I lost my wagon plate because of it I was kind of pissed we might
need a might need you to post pictures of this really cool Buick station wagon dude Roadmaster
wagons are sick was that the old Roadmasters like the yeah wasn't that's like a 94 with an
LT1 Corvette engine in it oh I thought I'm thinking of the like woody ones didn't they
have like big blocks in them no what the the best one you could get was the 94 with LT1
I thought they had like a I don't know about Buick there's a I thought there was a wagon with a big
block in it I'm sure there was yeah but no the 94 Buick wagon it was the way to go dude I have
had quite a few Roadmasters in my life but the wagon was my favorite huh here I'll uh I'll send
a picture I don't have a picture of mine readily available but I'll send a picture of one to the
group chat oh god what nothing it's uh that's a stock one I mean mine was mostly stock I like
them with different wheels on them I always liked the Volvo wagons those ones I liked the boxy
Volvo wagon oh are those uh what are those called that I don't even they're like a number yeah
it's like a VL something VL 240 god someone built a woody NASCAR Buick Roadmaster wagon you I know
it's not you this thing is sick dude I don't know how you don't like wagons they're the coolest
cars I love wagons I don't like that body style so you have bad taste got it no you don't even
don't start with this again we we uh controversial controversies my uh my first car or my second car
cuz my first car was an 83 CJ7 but after I totaled that my second car was a 93 Buick Roadmaster so I
have like this deep love for these cars that one wasn't a wagon though that was a sedan god this
this NASCAR wagon though this thing is sick they're sick I don't know man I think you just
like odd cars dude I do like odd cars that's fine oh but I like odd cars a lot of that but I just
my odd car likes are different from your odd car likes yeah well I like our odd cars I like those
too I like all cars except for crappy cars like the GMC terrain I think it looks wise they did
okay on it but functionality wise I don't know about that so I I think they did great on
functionality with the GMC terrain I think that for what it was intended to be which is a car for
Bridget to pick her kids up from choir practice it's fine it's a great car for that it just isn't
necessarily a good off-road rig well rig being the key word it's not a good rig no is it but like
getting to state campgrounds and take it for us roads yeah it does just fine doing that compare
it to like your wife's what is it a Honda or whatever yeah or CRV CRV compare it to like your
wife CRV in that category it's a pretty good car I tell you what that CRV is so much fun drive that
was so nice it that's got the CVT right so you never feel a shift I feel a shift but that could
be because I drive it like a race car I was racing a Duramax the other day oh no he's being
a big bag then those Duramax guys oh they're the worst the cat-eye Duramax guys with the big
fucking like four inch pipes like like I were sitting there on the expressway and I'm going
probably give or take I'm not telling you what state I'm in because on the expressways the the
limit is super high right it's like 95 is the speed limit here yeah I was going like so I was
going like yeah yeah so I was going like 85 90 and this Duramax was just not happy that a CRV was
out outgunning him and he just all you hear is just him trying to get up and pass me oh my god
it was I was like I just barely pushed out the gas pedal and edged him back out I'm like calm down
don't let your little wiener get a hold of you it's just it's crazy I've the Duramax guys will do
it next to me on stoplights too and I'm like I'll get him on the stoplight and then they'll speed
up because they realized that it was a race and then I just keep going and then I have to slam on
my brakes at the next light and he won't look at me cuz he lost he's in shame on the on that
one that's a good transition into weekend recaps Gavin what did you do last weekend I raised some
douchey Duramax is all the way to there was like two of them man damn were they both were they both
cat eyes yeah one was white and the other one was like a rusty black one I bet you I think that what
it is is that the price of cat eyes is getting low enough that d-bags can afford them yeah sounds
about right yeah but I so I went and took a good shape there were Carolina squatted previous oh
yeah well I think these ones were just rusted out so they were just probably just probably had a
natural rake on them anyway oh I just know cat eye Chevy's were squatted trucks out of all the
squatted vehicles and for whatever reason the cat eyes naturally sit back my hindsight here my
dad drove a cat eye for a long time and they are just god-awful dude like it would squat with the
lightest amount of weight in the back and he added all these little suspension helpers to make it
support trailer yeah and it just they look amazing they're very comfortable daily drivers
they're terrible in every other category right yeah they sound cool they do they sound like
I but also I'll still say this I'm not like a I'm not like a huge Ford guy but like I feel
like the seven threes are just this best sound as far as everyday diesels I would say the six
seven is the best all-around sound six seven power stroke but the seven three with a hood stack and
a big turbo with a wicked wheel in it by far the best sound you can get out no I like I see maybe
I'm more of a purist in that but this is more of a memory for me too because like I I grew up on
going to my grandma's horse farm and she had like a I want to say it was like a 96 with a 7-3 yeah
no you're definitely something like that maybe you just haven't heard a hood stack 7-3 with a
proper built turbo I don't know I think it's there's a there's a limit to just being too loud
to where it's so honest honestly the sound the volume out of the hood is not much different than
the volume from behind you then then I would be okay with that but I my memory comes from just
being like having them warm it up in the morning on the farm you hear it starting up and it's
like and they come out there and it's nice and misty all you smell is cow poop and then diesel man
it's just core memories so the way that the 7-3s worked because they didn't have any like
resonators or mufflers or anything they were always straight pipe from the factory so the
sound coming out the back is about the same volume as what comes out the hood the only
difference is when you floor it the sound coming out the back is muffled because it's going behind
you whereas the sound on from the hood is in front of you and you hear it more right
looks looks wise I prefer coming yeah looks wise I think I prefer it more coming out the
back but I I'm not saying I don't like that stacked I'm not saying I don't like it I just
it the way that I would drive like the old at the OBS I would have it pretty dang stock as far as
the normal body goes and then just have a small lift with some nice tires on there some but I
wouldn't do much more than that to them usually I wouldn't like throw a big old fucking turbo and
hood stacks out either side so just for longevity and drivability reasons you really in today's
world you need a bigger turbo period and you need injectors this if you're buying one that's pretty
much stock stock injectors are trash they will absolutely roach the 7.3 at about 250,000 miles
it'll just go boom trust me I did that once yeah I don't know what they did that thing got up to
like threes I don't know what they did do it but they got up to like 350 or 60,000 and then they
ended up selling it but the they had it from 96 and used it as a hay hauler until I think the 2015
14 something around there then they used it as just kind of a normal hay truck and they had a
I want to say an 05 or 06 Ford that they a diesel that they used for hay hauler after that or trailer
or horse trailer hauler and yeah I just kind of it was just kind of the farm truck that pulled
hay wagons and shit around I have had 297 one crew cab short bed five-speed four-wheel drive best
truck I've ever owned absolutely never should have sold it then and that one was big injector
star yeah stock turbo with a bully dog tuner nothing crazy that thing got almost 30 miles to
the gallon with that five-speed though absolutely wild for a truck that size yeah then I had my
crew cab long bed which was an automatic and that was big Jector big big turbo new gears I don't
remember what all we did to that truck I blew it up and then just went nuts it made like 500
horsepower huh that one was so it's stacked and then I had a bunch of idea I've had so many OBS
Ford's not even funny yeah I think they're beautiful vehicles oh they are my dad had a
95 manual but just a gasser and he drove that he would drive every other weekend from Traverse
City to Lansing to pick me up and the amount of money on gas that he spent it's crazy but
that truck would just go and go like he had no issues with it he fucking hit some black ice on
the way back from dropping me off one weekend and just barely tapped a car that had also slid up
and then he got out of the truck and then as soon as he got out another car behind him hit the black
ice and then told his well hit the back of his truck so hard that it rear-ended that car again
and just totaled his truck so from then he's had Chevy's 90 yeah I think he had a 94 after that oh
I'm so sorry Gavin I totally interrupted you telling your weekend recap yeah man you got us
all fucking all fucking distracted but no I made a took the wife CRV to help save gas and made the
nice two-hour 30-minute trip to basically I think it was basically an armor sounds about that about
that area Matt one of our guys from MST Casey and went and picked up a winch so went got the
winch talked to him a little bit and came back got back I think I think I left around eight or
something came back around 12 one and yeah so I am I am Gucci all set I just have to get a couple
more bolts from the store I have to find some winch like the mounting bolts for the winch to
the plate and then I'm good to go I just got when we when we put in this bitch in I don't know I
was um I was thinking I want to take a flap disc to the plate and then just give it a couple coats
real quick it's got some rust and stuff on it nothing crazy just surface rust and little
bubbling on the paint so I was just gonna take a flap disc kind of cleaned it up a little bit give
it a couple coats and then once I find the bolts for it whatever day that I'm actually not working
right and that you guys aren't working so probably one of the Friday nights yeah and then we're
then we're setting I'll be all set up with a winch man and then I could finally stop calling
people for help and I get stuck I'm pretty proud both you are making that big step getting winches
on your trucks mm-hmm yeah man I it's just one of those things man like every every time I've
gotten stuck like that most recent time in the Muskegon area when I was trying to help that person
out the ghost the ghost yeah the I got stuck that day and it was so I would have been able to get
out so easily if I just had just hooked up to the tree next to me and just pulled like six inches
that's all I would have been you know right and that after after that I was like okay this is
stupid this needs to become a priority if we're gonna do more solo stuff and so the is the roof
rack took a little bit of a weight and I just figured we'd I mean I mean all together I have
with the winch included the plate in the winch I'm only I'm only at like $400 right now for
everything so bad for the mounting plate for the winch and then with gas it was probably like $40
in gas to go to Ann Arbor and back well plus your gas to Chicago yeah that was only like same it was
a little bit more it was like 50 but because it was a her tank is only like 10 or 11 gallons she
was like 28 miles of a gallon so so for my whole winch setup I think I'm at like how's that like
550 because it was 300 for the winch 200 for the bumper and then 50 for the flat link worth
purchase I've ever made but that link yeah I fucking hate it which one do you have just the
factor 55 flat link okay the one that doesn't have a hook it's not the ultra hook it's just
the flat link and the reason that I hate it so much is that no matter what you're doing you
have to be able to use a shackle to connect to it right can't just hook it to something and pull
so it's just an added step especially when I'm you good mark I broke the chair Oh No chair down
I don't dare do that in this the Sienna's nursing chair the thing is cheap Amazon chair when I get
in it it creaks I'm like the less I move the better yeah so it's fine really on the trail I
don't have too many issues with the flat link but I use it at work a lot and having to run a soft
shackle around a piece of equipment to a D ring to be able to winch on it is really annoying yeah
mm-hmm I can see that I was just curious why you didn't like it and that's pretty good reason I'll
be looking maybe to get a hook at some point but I think for now I don't use it like you know like
you do for work or anything the only time I would use it is for recovery so right now it's just the
loop on the synthetic loop on the line so I would just have to put a soft shackle on it and you know
I'm saying yeah yeah cuz you've just got the metal hook on the end or the metal loop yeah you
definitely should add a hook of some kind I actually have a hook here I yeah I Dan I was
having my factory hook oh yeah cuz I was gonna say I was looking on Amazon too for just a hook
maybe I'll maybe someday I'll get that factory 55 that one we were looking at but the ultra hook
yeah I mean I have I technically have the money now but I've been trying to save it so yeah but
that's a good spot for mark to tell us all about his weekend yeah pretty good weekend like said we
did beer night me and Alex said well it's kind of fun it we had brats that were questionable but
they were delicious very questionable thank you Brian if he listens probably not no one listens
and then what are you talking about maybe that's fucking hot the brass gotcha well my wife was
what I told him my wife was sick yeah um and then we arranged a that was fun really did my shoulder
in I I definitely missed the range day I wanted to go really bad I know you did but I know you
did we were I was like the night before I'm like thinking about what I had to do the next day at
work and there was no possible way for me to get all my work done for the day before range day
yeah and I ended up getting done with work like 40 minutes before mark came to my house after the
range day yeah mm-hmm yeah yeah that sucks yes but I'm sure we're probably have more than just that one
probably better weather than cold yeah well it sounded like it was a success so oh it was it was
really good had oh six max maybe seven people which was fine where we were at cuz it wasn't
like a great parking area is a very small pull-off area from the normal trail yeah got you so it was
just the right amount of people to be there for where we were at well shoot six people shooting
guns at the same time yeah that's plenty I had a when I had my diaper party before I had my son
that's what we did was kind of a range day instead of like for guys if you don't do this when you have
a kid guys will have something like a diaper party it's like the same thing to women's baby
shower but for dudes and we went out and took our you know shotguns clay shooters any guns we had
and had a little barbecue people brought diapers and we shot some guns and I came home with a back
full SUV of diapers and it lasted us for like I don't say four or five months before we actually
had to buy diapers so that saved us a shit ton of money dude diapers are so expensive oh yeah it's
like every two weeks I have to drop $60 on a pack of diapers yeah it's expensive but yeah I don't
even have a kid yeah yeah kinda I just gained a kid I didn't have a kid I just gained one yeah that's how it
works it's just dropped on him that's how it always works and that's how having a kid goes you just
one day you don't one day you do no you got nine months of dealing with this kid growing I didn't
have that just one day my I get a call hey I'm gonna drop my kid off and then he never left
that's the same thing as having a kid that says the scene is like hey today's the day and I'm like
alright so it went from her just being having a big belly cuz like yeah it doesn't really register
that there's like a child in there sometimes you know I mean like and then she and then she has it
how does it not register it's it's like she was never that fat no she wasn't you know that and
but like the thing is is like you know there's one there it but it doesn't really hit you till
you're holding them you know what I mean that's what I'm trying to say is like it until he's out
it doesn't really hit you that you have a kid until well you're holding him and he's just crying
in your face and peeing like you I would definitely have taken that crying in my face and peeing and
being able to ramp up to the three-year-old rather than just suddenly having a three-year-old
I wish I could skip to three dude no I could know you don't know I mean I do I love it I love it
when he starts learning words like he knows he'll be like running around the house he'll be like oh
yeah like he just looks like he just knows that all of a sudden do you know what this kid did to
my chair this week so I've been working a lot I was I was sick like all week right and he wanted
to play games on my computer while I was sick dying in bed and he shredded the arm of my computer
chair because there was a small scratch in the leather so now all the stuffiness out on my left
side like so here I can show you guys but the the listeners can't oh maybe I can't show you
like just gaining a three-year-old dude he's so destructive oh my kid we have to take the
knobs off the oven because our kid will get on top of the the little there's a little handle on
the bottom of the oven for the what do they call that it's it's not controversial to popular belief
it's not extra storage it's actually the broiler yeah the broiler yeah he'll stand on that and then
he'd go and try to turn the oven actually I think it's a proofer no you're right I think it's broiler
well no because the broiler would be like if you have a double oven it's in the oven yeah the bottom
well I know some use bottom for like proofing of bread and stuff I don't know someone boost in and tell us but
yeah he'll he'll get on on the on the handle and then he'll go and turn the knobs on the oven so
like all of a sudden I'm like why does this smell like gas I look over there and the oven knobs on
like Jesus you're trying to kill us dang it we did it again mark keep telling us about your weekend
we're good I was getting there and then I am starting to work on my nav setup but I'm not
gonna fish to talk about all that yet because I need to get more of it put out but I did a very
controversial upgrade I glued a map to my dash very controversial we should do that no no so most people especially
second-gen Tacomas usually get their giant 12-inch now I think it's the biggest one they get smart
tablet heavy units I'm deciding not to deal that I went with a single den instead yeah took his
factory radio which has already doubled in out and replaced it with a single den yep why is that to
to to be determined to come is that one of those things to be determined but my thing is and Alex
is a good year to this is that one I'll be limited to whatever software updates are limited to that
head unit at the time without upgrading to a different head unit yeah also it just also a lot
of the head units have issues where they take out the AC control for how big the unit is and the AC
controls don't work at all oh okay so I mean I guess we can talk about it we just don't want to
share pictures yet but the big thing is that so he kept the single or doubled in space right so the
single den takes up half of the space and then we put a mounting surface in above that radio which
will give him a spot to be able to mount a GPS unit and a tablet which the benefit of doing a
not built-in tablet is you can take it out and go sit at the campfire with it in three years when
it's so outdated it doesn't work anymore you just go buy a new one yeah and then the GPS because
they're sick and they make life a whole lot better you know what would be cool is if they made a
I think the little the amazon tablet that I have it's basically a amazon tablet inside of a screen
or inside of like a unit for it the you know because I have kind of a flat screen thing too
I took my radio out and put that in oh yeah but it's basically it's basically just a tablet with
you know extra extra goodies that right has all the hookups for my radio they're always lowers
like the android units that go in the doubled in spots I love them I've used lots of them I have
one in my 442 I've had one in most of my trucks but they're always lower spec than a similarly
priced tablet oh absolutely and this one that I have it's like my the one thing that I don't like
about it is that when I you know I start the engine it actually has to it auto starts the application
for it's like a z-link it's called the application to actually hook up to bluetooth and everything
which gives it gives me like carplay and everything which is nice so I can yeah I can get into
Spotify or my audible while I'm on maps I could switch to onyx so that's really cool
but what would be really cool is if in that space you could just have a mount that you could quick
release your your regular home tablet onto and have like a hookup just to hook up your uh
oh Alex is smiling am I doing something no no okay finish your story and then oh I've just said
oh I'm just saying that you know it would be really cool if there was like a you know hook up
that hooked everything up to your to your radio and you could just you know put your tablet in
that space right then if you wanted to take the tablet out and fuck around at camp you could just
take the tablet out of it but so I love I love this idea and it's actually a thing but it's
usually for the ipads the ipad minis or whatever the problem I have with that plan is that you're
almost restricted to a certain tablet still there's a company at least for obs fords we talked a lot
about those I'm a big obs ford guy I've had about 10 or 11 of them so there's actually a dash kit
where your single din radio mount slightly back farther into the dash and then it gives you a
spot to be able to slide an ipad mini in and it all auto connects to the dash and earth to the
head unit and everything and makes it look like a touch screen in that spot but you can slide it out
when you want it out so I mean what you're looking for exists it just I mean it's there yeah yeah
that would be cool because then at that point you could still upgrade tablets you know if you had a
10 inch tablet you could just upgrade to another 10 inch or you know yeah but they get that big
anymore or get that small anymore but no one likes to stick to a standard size anymore so every time
someone comes out with a new tablet it wouldn't fit yeah so I will say like with the one thing
I do like about this other one too is because it's basically a tablet with hookups for radio
I can connect it to wi-fi and upgrade the software in it I mean obviously the the hardware is another
story you know when that gets old it's one thing but well and not only that you're usually those
head units they don't have they don't do android updates right so let's say it comes with android
9 which is super outdated and you should not be running it anyone running android 9 you should not
connect that device to the internet period no don't do it it is your data will be stolen in a way that
could hurt you very bad so that's where they tend to fall out is a lot of them are stuck on like
android 9 android 8 sometimes android 6 whereas if you do a tablet you're going to get a couple
android updates before you then have to upgrade the tablet and usually you'll upgrade the tablet
because the hardware is so outdated that it can't keep up anymore I wonder how that works when I
plug my phone into it it basically it basically like plays the screen on my phone like it has
my same background and everything so would is it basically just playing the screen that's on my
phone anyway would that be I don't know software wise I don't know would that be kind of like having
my existing software I have already you know I mean it's kind of it's hard to explain but since
it's already mirroring my phone screen if it's just mirroring your phone screen and not connected
to the internet you should be fine right the problem comes when you're trying to run internet
apps directly off the the in dash radio yeah okay I see what you're saying so like if it does have
it does have that if you log in if you log into your google account on your in dash radio that's
android 9 well android security on android 9 has been you know defeated at this point so anybody
on the internet that wants in there has an easy route in whereas if you're on a modern android
operating system which I don't even know are we up to like 16 now or something like that yeah
something like that but if you're looking at android units I see 13 and 12 for Tacoma's yeah
yeah right so if you're on a modern version of android well they're still updating it monthly
which is keeping your security stuff in check um yeah that mine is that whole security update thing
is part of why I kind of left smartphones and just went to a flip phone so I mean judge me
all you want but well I don't mind the security update issues but the uh but what it my tablet
does have the capabilities to log on uh with wi-fi um I don't do that though I did just auto it auto
uh launches the z-link which basically is is it's a carplay app basically and it right mirrors my
screen my background and all my apps on my phone so uh our our goal with mark set up is for it to
be able to run onyx independently from his phone so that he could literally just toss his phone in
the dat like in his glove box and forget about it for a weekend leave in the pocket yeah yep that too
um so I mean I think it'll be really cool it'll be a very different setup from what you normally see
uh 100 and really if you think about it so a lot of people add those what are they mams or what's
that thing over your radio a mam a multi-axis mount or something like that on mine yeah yeah
that little metal thing over your radio yeah yeah it's just a yeah bracket for any I mean
uh it it's the same thing it just doesn't cover any controls yeah I do I will say it's above the
series I actually like having that there so I can run two different things at once so like it's
really nice on my main screen the the bigger screen on the actual radio I'll run onyx and then I will
run like all trails or google maps or um what's the other one Gaia while we're doing trails so
that I could see like you know onyx is going to tell you one thing Gaia might tell you different
so having both of them to look at while I'm doing it is kind of nice and then while onyx is pulled
up because it hooks up via bluetooth I could still just pull my phone out everything will still be
hooked up take a picture do what I need to do put it back on so I do like having that mount there
but I do also see what you're saying too which I mean he'll have he'll kind of have the same thing
still have a tablet and a Garmin drive smart so you know he'll still have two forms of navigation
visible it's completely excluding and I could do three if I wanted my phone right yeah so sienna
sienna sits in the driver's seat with the tablet that's logged into my onyx so she'll use the onyx
saved maps while we're driving cross-reference where we're at and everything like that's what
we did on poker run there's while we were driving she was referencing on the tablet telling me where
to turn so nice it was like having it's like having rally nav easy right easy right I was so
out of my element on a poker run because I one I wasn't in my truck two I didn't have any of my like
I didn't have my radio I didn't have my navigation I had nothing like I was so out of it dude
yeah speaking of radios gotta get that back from you buddy oh my my new radio I love my new radio
no shit you've had it for like two months now so I do realize I left a spare battery in the
center console I gotta get that for my mom rude yeah sorry I have the radio but
I definitely forgot about the spare battery at this point I better just buying a new one
I'll never see it again but yeah mark mark setup is gonna be pretty cool man it's
definitely different from what you normally see but I think that it's gonna be different in a good
way yeah if my third gen had a radio slot that was slightly higher on the dash I would be copying
it but since I don't I just struggle and your center was a little wider too yeah I can't fit
yeah I can't fit anything on my dash dude oh oh uh so it's not a weekend update but so you guys
remember on the botches yearly when I made that little voodoo thing yeah that looks like a little
I carved that little doll thing for uh Jasper yeah well you know after that weekend and then
a couple days later he pretty much stopped playing with it and he moved on to bigger and better that
weren't wood toys he liked having a wood toy while we were out there because there was nothing else
but so I actually took that like Alex and I were talking about I had drilled a hole through the
bottom of it and uh threw it on the shifter so it's my new shifter knob now oh really yeah it's
tooken me a little bit to get used to like but it still feels good on the hand it's just a little
higher than what it was before I pulled into a Wendy's the other day and the guy goes oh shit is
that a manual and I'm like no he goes oh here's your burger and I'm like
I'm like it's still a cool car just because it's not manual
dingle you uh you probably should stabilize that so that it lasts longer than like a few months
what do you mean so that because you carved that out of what pine I don't know whatever fucking
whatever wood we had I'm pretty sure it's like a pine so you should put it in a resin and then
uh that way it stabilizes the wood and the wood actually hardens and becomes more like a rock
than something that'll wear over time oh yeah I did kind of like the idea of it wearing over time
but oh okay I you know what I mean like having it like round off a little bit from all the use but
I see what you're saying I what did you put a nut did you put a nut in the bottom or did you just
shove it on the hole um I drilled a slightly smaller hole than what the shifter was and then
literally just yeah just threaded it on it it it works fine it's not like like you you can't pull
it off of it with any amount of normal force like I was just gonna like glue it on there but I'm like
I want a little bit more removable than that and I was then I was gonna just get like a thread shirt
from our uh my bins at the hardware store but then I tried it just to see if it worked and then I
tried yanking it off there I'm like oh this bitch ain't moving that's a lot of extra work for nothing
if it ain't moving already so you'll have to see it it's uh but I think I will either like stain it
or throw like a or some kind of clear coat on it or something just for extra protection or a little
bit yeah I don't know if I want to I think I'm too lazy to actually take it out and do some like
right yeah yeah I guess what I could do is just take it out take a torch to it burn it and then
sand it and be good that's what they that's what they used to do to stabilize wood they'd burn it
to harden it and then they'd sand it yeah but okay well my weekend update uh the trailer now has a
pintle hitch on the front it took a lot of grinding to cut the crappy mount that the farmer had
welded on it back in the 60s but you know we have we have it all ground off we welded on a new
adjustable removable pintle hitch and it is just about ready to start being pulled I still need to
wire it is this the botches off-road trailer yeah yeah yes okay just double checking I figured it
was but yeah I was making sure you weren't talking about a different trailer no the the botches off
road trailer is making big gains and is really moving along at a pretty good pace dude you got
to get a stencil does that have the uh um I wear the pintle hitch is it got that big fucking like
bracket there to actually connect to the trailer I was gonna say get a stencil and spray paint the
botches botches off-road on the side of that we're putting the battery talked about that we're
putting the botches logos on the front of the fenders yep oh okay I thought it'd be cool with
one of those old military lettering style botches off we got that going too yeah it's gonna be
you'll see so we're gonna do the the botches logo is gonna be spray painted on on the fender and then
it's gonna have the uh military um like like uh weight like how much the trailer weighs yeah and
uh the tire pressure like what psi the tires oh okay so yeah you're still like okay it's very
much so gonna follow the old military we took pictures of all the military markings so we could
copy them back on oh that's cool yeah but we're gonna the one that was for weight we're gonna
change it because we took a generator off so the trailer is gonna weigh a different weight than
what it was when you know that happens so we're gonna take it through a scale and weigh it when
we're done building it yeah oh um I I bought that cheap amazon tire pressure gauge uh the little
nuts that you can throw on your tires it tells you the tire pressure and temp of the tires
for the air in it I guess and temp yeah weird okay anyway so I bought it it was like originally
60 some dollars it was at a flash sale for like 23 or 28 I was just like ah fuck it and so
a little suspicious about that deal okay yeah well I got it I got it in and I uh it was just one of
those amazon flash sales you know they'll have those that are like 56 off or something like that
oh yeah no I know but I feel like half the time it's a price hack before they actually sell you to
the normal price you just get it for normal price you find out it's somewhat it could have very well
been but even for 23 if that was the normal price I would have been cool with it and uh so I went
and got that and put it up it's got like 3m sticky things that you can put on your windshield I got
it down by the dash and then on the other side of the plate with so that has two strips or the
3m that goes on the windshield or wherever and then there's actually a little solar panel on
that other side on the windshield so the sun can charge it yeah or you can take it'll actually
slide off of the um the mount and then you could just charge it with your car too but how much did
you say it is it's like 28 dollars something like that yeah well no it was like 60 something
regular it was like on sale for 20 something is yours the gear go or the tie mate um I'm not sure
I'll let me uh go look check his history check my order screen here because now I'm curious and
there's a lot of them ranging from like 25 regular to 70 um time eight uh time eight what time eight
tm8 okay yeah yeah so regular that's about 30 so it's not it's not a bad deal but um yeah so
but yeah so I got that uh put that on and then actually checked it and temperature was right on
um I don't know why I need to know my temp my tire temp uh in Michigan but it's it's an added
feature um and then I think that's more racing related for tire temps yeah or uh yeah maybe yeah
but the tie I will say that the tire temp is exactly like right on to a one degree difference
and the uh the tire pressure um was so I had 30
31 I think in my tires is where I think I was at and comparing it to my gauge on the compressor
so we know that your gauge is not accurate well it's like two off but it's not that much
right it was like two to five off I discovered the electric ones seem to be off compared to the
actual normal gauges yeah that's something that really annoys me if I can find a good electric
one that's actually accurate I'm gonna spend the money on it because that's annoying
that's annoying I like my analogs I mean I like analog but I like being able to just
clip on the uh the electric ones to just get a quick read too but it's it's only like
two to three psi off on the uh on the the the knobs too for that same thing so it's really
not that far off either but uh I haven't tried deflating to see I should have done that today
but I kind of slept all day but I've been sick too getting over that yeah so well with that we
got eight minutes left let's give a week update I'm not Alex anymore Alex died Monday night and
now I am with him same with me that I'm not the original Mark either we all got sick but
you guys got sick in a different way than I did dude it was so weird I so I came home from work
Monday night at like four and I was fine like nothing was wrong I felt perfectly normal I went
in the shower to wash up all the turkey stink because you know turkey stink and about halfway
through my shower I felt like I was gonna pass out so I just hurried up got out went to bed and
I slept from like 4 30 till I think I woke up at like seven or eight and I just if there was an
orifice on my body there was stuff coming out of it I mean it was terrible dude yep yeah I know all
about I woke up Monday morning and like I was completely fine I got down to the job site about
noon when my stomach was like complaining like oh I guess I won't eat lunch because I just can't
handle it I ended up puking four times on the job site and then when I got to the workhouse I was in
the bathroom constantly yeah it I and I had the most wild fever dreams Monday night like
I had trucks sitting at the end of my bed talking to me like that's how bad it was
and like not any trucks that I own and I'm not gonna share what kind of truck it is because
it's the one that I'm looking at buying and I don't want to jinx it but it literally the point
where the bumper starts where it looks like there's a mouth on the truck that's smiling
that's where it started talking to me and there were teeth man there were freaking teeth it was
like cars there's like cars animation he's like why are you so sick bud but it had it had absolutely
no eyes it was scary as hell and it was telling me it was telling me the location of trucks that
I should buy and it was weird because the next morning I woke up and I had at some point browsed
marketplace and saved a bunch of these trucks yeah fever dreams man I'll get you God I had those
when when we went to Great Wolf Lodge uh what was that about a month ago or so yeah I had I went
got uh tacos at a at a pretty nice restaurant honestly and I don't know what happened but that
night it was just like what you guys are talking about like it just boom all of a sudden I'm sweating
I'm like what the fuck oh shit it's just like running to the bathroom and then I just like every
yep every orifice man and then uh went to bed and the next day I'm like dude this sucks like
like but it was over that like that night it was just within a span of like the whole night
I went from fever to puking to shits to fevers to shits to puking and then I then I woke up in the
next morning and my asshole's like help and yeah it's like and then I'm like yeah you know I'm good
oh I never I never had the shits I just started peeing out my asshole
no I mean I'm with you too Sienna goes Sienna's like what the fuck dude we're in a hotel room
most violent piss I've ever had but it did not come out of where it should have
oh yeah dude it was like yeah man you ever ever piss everything that you've had and it's just
within the three seconds that you sat down it's just and it's all gone you're like all right well
gonna baby wipe that up and make go on with the rest of my day yeah I don't I don't know what
and it I mean I'm still recovering like I uh I was yesterday was still pretty bad I was still
pretty dehydrated today I still got a dehydration headache but not as bad as it was yesterday
I only worked like four hours yesterday I didn't and yeah I mean it god dude I I don't get sick
like that a lot I'm pretty scarred that was yeah exhausting oh yeah dude and then he's my dumb ass
and then I woke up the next day because at that point um I started kind of feeling icky at the
restaurant just like I got full really fast yeah got full really fast and so out of the four
out of the four ta the birria queso birria tacos that were there I only ate one so there were
three more so I took food poisoning dude yeah so I took leftovers and then the next day I was like
dude there's still queso birria tacos like I spent a lot of money on these so I fucking I just I ate
two of them and then like an hour later I was back in the bathroom puking and shitting I was like
that's food poisoning 100% so I intentionally unintentionally gave it to myself again because
because I was like I know these were good when I ate them and then I ate them when I ate them
yeah and then when I ate them again they were cold I was like these kind of taste like shit now
and then so I didn't even finish the second one before I was like yeah I'm just throw this in the
garbage because these aren't anywhere near as good as they were and then I shit you not it was like
30 30 uh 30 seconds to a couple minutes later I'm like uh yep it must have been the tacos
yeah I was I'm not gonna lie Monday night I was pretty sure I'd gotten COVID again because it
felt like the first day that I had COVID back in 2020 or 20 I was about to say 22 whatever year
that was yeah it reminded me when we both got sick that one week and we hung out with the snow
building at John's place we all came back and like everyone was sick I went to the hospital
dehydrated so yeah that was that was 2019 that was before COVID I'm pretty sure that it actually
was COVID okay I agree with you okay Lynn was in the ICU for a week and a half from that
whatever that was I heard whisperings of COVID when I was working at farm and home a nurse actually
came up and he's like and he was buying all the masks that we had yeah and I was like it was kind
of weird like he had his like scrubs on and everything and he goes he goes yeah there's a
lot of there's a lot of people getting sick I have a friend that works at a really nice hospital in
New York and she's saying that something's coming and I was like oh yeah and she's like yeah he's
he said that everybody's everybody's sick over there and something something big is coming they
don't even know what it is and I'm like oh fuck that's kind of scary and he's like yeah and then
I kind of just went about my day and it was just like whatever like you know some people just say
shit like to say shit and yeah I should it was like a couple months later like all of a sudden
the fucking pandemic just hit I was like so uh-oh kind of uh kind of into the
uh conspiracy side here do you remember in 2019 Michigan banned vape flavors and all that because
kids were dying quotations for listeners kids were dying because of vapes um yep and there was all
that stuff going on because there was all that vape disease and all that I am I am 95% sure that
that vape disease people were getting was COVID-19 because oh I could see that the
dispos that were getting popular at the time are assembled in a factory in uh Wuhan China
ah where where did COVID-19 start Wuhan China yep then no after after doing some research
there are quite a few employees from the the lab that uh COVID-19 was built in that also work in
vape assembly plants huh that's interesting so I was um so when that was happening too it was funny
um I didn't go to that side of the conspiracy with it but I was going to the other side where
there was a bunch of kids uh buying uh so if anybody doesn't really know much about vapes but
there are you know disposables and then you have like your regular mods then you have like the
the disposable pens or like the refillable pens and there was a lot of like huh e-cigs yeah like
e-cig type style and then so there was a lot of kids that were actually um if you know anything
um if you know anything about the weed stuff they were buying like the the wax pens the
and a lot of people were buying those pens and apparently they were buying cartridges um like
the vitamin e yeah or uh because you know people were making them in their basements yep and they
don't have the readily available uh chemicals or or uh yep quality control or the real mixture
you know the measurements that you need to uh safely mix it like the bigger thc
companies that actually make it in factories also by the way uh as someone who worked in a vape store
and did a lot of this stuff I can tell you that even those big stores I'm covering my hand like
I'm whispering into the mic too yes um a lot of those big companies also were cutting them with
vitamin e acetate because it was considered safe but vitamin e acetate your body cannot process it
and then it builds up in your lungs and you die yeah so so a lot of kids were saying they were
getting that popcorn lung and then after they were doing more testing and doing more interviews um
it was coming out that a lot of them were actually just buying a black market I say black market
because it's not you know the regular market but buying buying thc carts from some old dude in his
fucking basement and then they're getting really sick and these are kids so they're afraid of
getting caught so they blamed it on e-cigs or the regular nicotine so that was like the other half
of the whole vape thing to people that definitely happened but I think that look because adults
started getting it too and I'm I'm pretty sure that there's with it have had it you know at the
time period that that happened and it had the exact same symptoms of COVID-19 and then with a
month of us getting through all that COVID-19 started yeah no that makes a lot of sense too
I think it compiled I really do because people there was no there was no testing for COVID back
then so right nobody knew what was happening they just knew hey well this kid was vaping
and he can't breathe anymore there's a bunch of shit in his lungs his o2 sats are down
so I mean they were just working with what they had unfortunately they weren't working the right way
um that and especially here in Michigan we had a lot of reason to ban vaping because we were
getting paid for cigarette deaths so that was a big part of it oh yeah cigarette not vaping but
right okay I see what you're saying yeah yeah man that's sorry because that was right when I was
I was train chugging vape juice like oh dude oh I I stocked but when they announced they were
going to start doing that I stockpiled like seven months worth of juice and it was kind of nice
because for seven months I didn't have to uh buy juice but it was over in like a month and a half
so yeah that yeah that one month that I didn't have it thankfully my buddy Aaron one of his
friend actually hand makes it I was doing that too and man dude he had the best mixtures he had
like a blueberry that was so good so I would just ask Aaron like hey man it was way cheaper than
regular uh juice too so yeah he would just grab me some I used to make a super bomb straw nana
oh my god and it was like it wasn't like a candy straw nana it was natural strawberry with natural
banana so it actually tasted like a straw nana milkshake oh my god I'm not gonna lie it's the
first time I've heard of the term straw nana really yeah yeah that's that's that interesting
it was just a interesting term straw nana straw nana interesting yeah so hey man on that uh on
that note we're what we're at an hour right yeah oh yeah dead on all right yeah man all right well
see you even got a little conspiracy in it you guys are welcome and uh vape vape content that's
something we don't talk about a lot yeah yeah yeah probably doesn't help that I don't vape
anymore so yeah neither do I I stopped and then and then uh recently just got back in it but I'm
not I'm not gonna stick with it for too long I just kind of uh right now I'm just a crutch to get me
along I'm a huge proponent for vaping I think that it's a thing that honestly helps a lot of people
quit cigarettes and it's really enjoyable I got really big into the hobby side of things
but with this whole disposed taking over the world thing it is almost impossible to get the stuff I
need for my rebuildable uh rda's oh yeah so yeah I just kind of quit because of that it wasn't it
wasn't a choice it just it got hard yeah for me and for me I think it's um vaping is always supposed
to have been a way to quit cigarettes and not really an alternative and at some point it came
into an alternative and not that I don't trust the chemicals but anything that anything that
you're inhaling or putting into your lungs for a long period of time like that is going to have a
negative effect in some way or another and you know so I mean it's obviously not a good thing to do
whether it's safer than cigarettes we don't have enough data but I could I think we definitely have
enough data well we didn't there's I mean long-term data when we're talking 40 years but we don't have
that I know what we yeah we don't have the 40 year data but we have we have you know short term to
10 years you know and the amount of right so 2007 almost 20 years yeah that's a little bit better now
people that are vaping your traditional uh vapes are not having any problems the people have
problems are on disposed salt nick is the worst thing for you um so so I was I'd like to see a
study come out with people that are doing mods versus disposed but not like salt night because
I'm like an I'm at six milligram I don't know I don't think this is salt night that's just a breeze
is it it's salt neck yep but I'd like to see because the amount of hits that I take versus
what I've done on my other my mod so is way less the reason that it's so much less is because your
body can't process the salt nick so it gives you a bigger high it gives you a bigger buzz so you need
less of it but because your body can't process it it ends up making you sicker long term than what
the free base does yeah but I also differences with the amount that you do free base the amount
really doesn't matter that much compared to the type also with a salt nick device like a breeze
that's what we call mouth to lung instead of direct along whereas with a mod that's generally
a direct along you're not going to get as big of a hit with a direct along as you would a mouth to
lung because it has time in your mouth and down your esophagus then in your throat to give you a
buzz that's why people with breezes need less um personally I prefer the direct along it's more
refreshing to me but I need to hit it more often yeah I do I mean I do too um I love my mod but
I was also getting to a point where I was hitting it more than I was breathing and I mean literally
I would be sitting there gaming or watching a show and every time that I would breathe I'd just have
it sitting up by my mouth and every time that I would breathe I'd just push the button and hold it
and it just sounded like Darth Vader if you had ever been to my house six months ago there was a
constant fog through my house you can ask yeah you can ask Mark like oh yeah now part of that is you
probably weren't using the right type of you know everyone's got a different type of atomizer that's
good for them for me personally a mesh rda is the best way to go I need less hits from a mesh rda
than I do from any sub ohm sub ohms are the worst that is the absolute worst way to vape the most
common way to vape with a mod but the worst way um uh rda's they're the less common you got to
actually drip them between each hit but you're going to get a better more consistent hit off an
rda so you I think it takes less juice yeah I think the extra work with the rda is the reason
I didn't want to do one um like just being able to throw a new coil in every month or so
dude I didn't even do that with an rda you need a new coil like every three months well I mean
I I said one one month as like probably when you should do it but I waited well it tasted like
burnt popcorn before I took so before I changed mine over with a sub ohm I changed it every three
days so if you were giving a month you could probably get a year on an rda coil yeah and
an rda coil is like 10 cents compared to 10 dollars yeah but don't you have to like wrap
your cotton and everything with it you just got to push you have to like through a coil yeah push
you got to like braid your cotton a certain way and you just got to it just got to like put it in
there and screw it and then you got to like yeah you gotta like really like your daughter's hair
to do that you gotta braid it like this to get even coverage and to do that I want to do all that
to do that once every three months is not bad but I also ran mech mods so I was getting eight volts
all the time through yeah oh dude I miss my mods so much I wish I could find coils because I would
totally start rocking it again yeah I had the the geek vape mod and for what I was for what I was
using it for it did fine I mean like I didn't I I just didn't want to do all that I just wanted
to be able to just because it's nice you can just take the tank off pop a new coil and fill it with
juice and you're done you don't have to like you don't have to worry about anything else and I
never really had issues with the with things until I've got like 20 mods but my favorite I had a
purge side piece which is like a 250 dollar mech mod that is basically impossible to find now
and I absolutely fucking love it and then I've got I've got so many I can't even list them all
but I've got a lot of expensive mods yeah well we just added 12 minutes of vape talk on that so
so on that note guys well uh we'll talk to you later and uh enjoy that vape vape talk I guess
yeah later later