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Welcome to Botches Off-Road.

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Joining us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping

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to rock climbing and all things to do with the outdoors.

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Today we're going to do another little mini series of radio chatter.

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We had some good feedback from it and it was a lot of fun.

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So I think we're going to start with that.

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And why don't you lead us off, Mark, with our first card.

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Or I'm sorry, not Mark.

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I don't got them.

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I want you to guess what it's going to be.

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I don't know the cards that well.

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But we'll let Mark choose.

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How about that?

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Yeah, pick a number, Mark.

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Let's do four.

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Adventure phrases can be followed up with that's what she said.

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This is along the line of that other one that we had.

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Very much so.

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It's after dark card.

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Oh yeah, I like those after dark ones.

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Yeah, that was a lot easier than I expected.

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Of course.

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That's what she said.

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I mean, almost the same answers work here.

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That was a deep hole.

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Yeah.

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That's what she said.

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That was a big tree.

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That's what she said.

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That wasn't as tight as I thought it was going to be.

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That's what she said.

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If you really want to get crazy.

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I mean, that one really kind of falls down the same loop.

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Yeah.

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I mean, there's lots of funny stuff you could say there, but it's the same stuff works there

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as in the other ones.

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So yeah, 100%.

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All right, Gavin, your turn.

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Pick a card one through two.

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I have two in my head.

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Well this one doesn't really work on audio, but I'll read it off anyway.

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Make an orgasm face to the person to your left while pretending like you're driving on rugged

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terrain.

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I think those are the same faces anyway.

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When I'm driving on rough terrain, it's probably the same face.

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So along the lines of, oh, oh, oh, oh.

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All right, pick another number.

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Well, let's do three.

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These after dark cards, man.

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Jesus, dude.

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And that's like, okay, I really need like a card shuffle or something.

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This is another after dark card.

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Throw it in the Uno thing.

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You remember the Uno dispenser?

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You just push the button and it plugs out like a rain card.

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What is the best adventure sexual innuendo?

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Can I get a definition, please?

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Can you put it in the sentence?

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I did.

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What is the best adventure sexual innuendo?

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I don't even know what innuendo means.

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Oh really?

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So innuendo would be like, you say one thing, but you're alluding towards something dirty.

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This is just like the other ones.

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Let's see.

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Yeah, I don't know, man.

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The ride your heart putter away wet.

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Yeah.

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Make sure you clean up after you're done.

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Go for a bumpy ride tonight.

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Yeah.

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See, I don't know.

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I guess it's not really how I'd consider innuendo, but yeah, that one's...

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Man, we are striking out.

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I think it's kind of hard trying to make a sex innuendo out of off-roading like that.

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Off-roading is just sex innuendo.

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This will happen with radio chatter.

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That's part of the fun.

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I mean, for the listeners, we're like, God dang, dude.

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Get off the subject.

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All right, one through four.

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Someone pick a number.

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Thank God.

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What advice would you give someone new to this hobby?

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For me, that's an easy one.

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Just go out and do it.

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Don't worry about spending all the money and buying all the expensive stuff.

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Just go out and do it.

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You got a vehicle capable of doing it, just go out and do it.

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Hell, I would say a minivan can make it to a park.

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Yeah, I would say do test runs.

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That'd be like mine.

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Go out and do it's one thing.

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If you don't know what your vehicle is capable of or what you're capable of, doing it alone

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is kind of a little sketchier, but do some test runs.

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Take some forest roads to a state forest campground.

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Go to Tin Cup.

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Tin Cup is a good one to start with.

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You just gave me another thing, Gavin.

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Don't do it alone.

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No, 100%.

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Don't do it alone.

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It's way more fun with friends.

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Oh yeah.

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No, doing it alone is one thing, but you do it with a group of people or friends, especially

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who are more knowledgeable and who could support you if something ever did go wrong.

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Give you kind of a safety net to explore and test your boundaries.

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Sorry to all the listeners that had to hear Doggo's walking around.

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All right.

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That was a pretty good card.

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You just pick one at random now.

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You got this.

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We're watching you.

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We know you're not cheating.

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What do you wish you would have brought with you?

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I wish I would have brought some fucking beer because I am beer-less right now.

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Oh, right now.

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In general, what I wish, I wish the, there was a certain point where I was really wishing

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I had a portable shower system.

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Not just a bath, but like an actual portable shower.

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When we're out there for a couple of days in the summer, not hard to get stinky.

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Do you still want one?

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Eventually, yeah.

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I'll look into a portable shower system.

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Do you want mine?

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Maybe.

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We have one that he made for us on our plane crash trail.

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I bought one.

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That one broke.

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Oh, that's right.

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Depending on what it is.

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I don't mean it by depending on what it is more as depending on the size and how I could

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make it fit.

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It's very small.

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What do you get?

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It's a little 12-volt one that you plug into your car and then you throw the pickup in

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a bucket of water and it sprays out.

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Yeah, it's like a little water heater.

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Gotcha.

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It doesn't heat.

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It just sprays.

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Oh, oh yeah.

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No, I'm looking for heated here.

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We're looking for comfort and pleasure.

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You just heat the water around the fire and then you...

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Comfort and pleasure.

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We're not looking at heat, man.

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It takes too long.

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Oh my God.

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I want it now.

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I want on-demand.

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I want it.

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It is.

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I want a geyser.

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You ever seen those?

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The geyser systems.

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I bought one and then blew it up.

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Whoops.

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No, it would have been nice.

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What is your favorite road trip snack?

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Sunflower seeds.

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Hand down.

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Sam and I will demolish sunflower seeds while we're out on a trip.

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We got a cup that we share.

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Even if we're going for a two-hour ride, we'll stop and get a big bag of Trail Mix.

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Oh, 100%.

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I love Trail Mix.

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It has to be cars.

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Oh yeah.

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Cars is the best.

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Cars is the best.

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Cars is the best.

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I will say that.

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But my issue with Trail Mix is that I'll be eating handfuls of it at a time and then I'll

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get up and my ass will have M&Ms down there in the seat.

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Trail Mix is much better for me as an out of the truck snack.

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Anybody who eats Trail Mix on the road and doesn't get an M&M between their legs or something

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in the fucking... You're like, God damn it.

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What you do is you go to Sam's Club and you get the individual wrapped ones and then you

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just open one end and you can just pour it in like it's a cup.

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Pour the whole thing in.

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I like to wear my sweatshirt backwards and use the hood as a food top.

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I just pour a whole Sam's Club Costco bag of cars in it and just fucking munch.

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I think Sienna and I could both collectively agree that we go to gas station and the first

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thing we do is we buy me enough monsters to either last through the day or the trip because

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I need those.

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Then we buy the biggest bag of Biggs Sunflower Seeds Original that we can get and we demolish

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those on the trail and everything.

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I mean, sunflower seeds are a good option.

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I'm not going to lie.

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All right.

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What have you done to reduce weight or save space?

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Save space.

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I just obviously just organizing and everything a little bit better.

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Cint straps or compression sacks.

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It's a good one.

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Yeah.

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Sacks are the best.

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Yeah.

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Eventually buying quality over quantity can help you with your space as far as clothing

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and bedding goes.

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So just I guess for comparison, I had a giant fake cotton comforter that I used to lug around

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everywhere that no matter how bad you rolled it up, you could not get that thing down.

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We ended up upgrading to like a synthetic down, which was compressible to a quarter

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of a size of that comforter.

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So that takes up a lot less room.

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And then for me personally, we also have a two person tent that's about two pounds that

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when we're not staying for three days at a time and we're only doing, you know, we're

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staying the night and we're keeping moving.

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We use that instead.

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And that takes up about three to four inches by 11 inches versus the size of what you would

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have for a typical pop up or four to five person tent.

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So right.

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And I mean, not for every trip, but you could easily get away with just a sleeping bag and

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a bivvy cover too.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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That is the most lean way you could camp.

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I mean, probably honestly, as long as my wife's not with me, that's probably my favorite

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way to camp.

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Yeah.

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It is.

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That's exactly it.

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As long as the wife isn't there.

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That's one thing, a sleeping, a bed roll, a bed roll is perfect.

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Yep.

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In general, if you can find one that's integrated with, you know, the covers on it, just sleeping

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by the fire, you don't need a tent or nothing.

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Perfect.

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I've seen people just put parts over themselves anyway.

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Our sleep system takes up, I mean, smaller than your average sleeping bag will fit our

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entire sleep system.

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So just roll out the bivvy, stuff your sleeping bags inside and boom, you're done.

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Camp set up.

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Yep.

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That's a good way.

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That's definitely a good way to reduce size and weight.

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But I think bedding is always your first step on that though.

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I'd say bedding and clothing.

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Like if we're going out for a week, I only need maybe two sets of clothes, maybe three.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's the thing.

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It's not a fashion show.

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Nobody's there.

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Nobody's there to be fancy.

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Nobody's there.

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I mean, when we went with Alex, I think I had one sweatshirt that I wore pretty much

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the whole week or not week, but four days or whatever that we were there.

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I usually bring one sweatshirt and a backup sweatshirt in case something happens and it

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gets wet.

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Right.

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I have a light rain jacket that I keep.

264
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So I have the sweatshirt and then I have a layer of like a light rain jacket.

265
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So obviously layers are important too, depending on the time of the year.

266
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And if your main goal is to save space, just pack hot dogs.

267
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You just need hot dogs, beer, condiments and buns.

268
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Don't be picky.

269
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Just get simple foods.

270
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If you're going out and you're trying to do a trip where you're just trying to save weight

271
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or something, just don't be picky.

272
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That's really the big one.

273
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Make wraps.

274
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Oh yeah.

275
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Wraps are great, man.

276
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Yep.

277
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Yep.

278
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I mean, there's so many ways to save money and maybe we can use that as a whole different

279
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episode here.

280
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Let's save money.

281
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Let's do it.

282
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Let's make a trip where we save as much money as possible while we're eating, what we're

283
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taking, et cetera.

284
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,880
Dude, we should just do that.

285
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Like one, we should do a weekend or maybe an overnight where the goal is we've each

286
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got like 50 bucks for the entire trip.

287
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Not good at guess.

288
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That's food, gas, and I mean, obviously we have our gears so we don't need to buy more

289
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gear but.

290
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I don't know.

291
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We should do.

292
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Maybe we should do a, we should save up a hundred dollars and do a Walmart Camp Hall

293
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and just only do it after what we could get for a hundred bucks out of Walmart.

294
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Yeah, for the three of us.

295
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Right, right.

296
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A hundred dollars has to get the three of us through a couple days.

297
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No, each, dude.

298
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Each.

299
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Because you're starting from zero.

300
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You're starting from zero.

301
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Oh, you're talking not even bringing any gear.

302
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000
Like just.

303
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Yeah, vehicle only.

304
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,560
This could be, I really like this idea.

305
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,560
This could be a lot of fun.

306
00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,160
No, no, nothing.

307
00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,480
Dude, I'm so down.

308
00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,080
Hundred dollars each.

309
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Let's buy what we can.

310
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And it didn't have to be able to live separately.

311
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We can't rely on each other.

312
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Can't rely on each other.

313
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Yep.

314
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Can't do a hundred dollars.

315
00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,800
Okay, you get betting, you get fire, I'll get food.

316
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,800
It's got to be.

317
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We could.

318
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And then we could honestly.

319
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Yeah, we'll do this once for for us, but we should do this as a an event like limit it

320
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to like, you know, five people or ten people somewhere in there.

321
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And we each you have to bring a hundred dollars for the event and all everything you buy for

322
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a hundred dollars.

323
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That's what you get for the camp trip.

324
00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,400
Everybody goes to Walmart at the same time.

325
00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,400
Yes.

326
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,400
Yeah.

327
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,920
We're just all hoping that they have what we need.

328
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,800
But yeah, no, that would be the thing I wanted.

329
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,800
Yeah.

330
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,800
Oh, yeah.

331
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,800
Fighting over babies.

332
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,760
Dude, I this idea sounds really fun.

333
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,880
Yeah, because we could really show just how cheaply you could live.

334
00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,880
Yeah.

335
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,600
And because that at the end of the day, that's just showing, hey, man, if you really do want

336
00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,320
to get out there, here it is.

337
00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,320
Hundred dollars.

338
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I'll get you.

339
00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,320
Yeah.

340
00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,880
Hundred dollars from scratch.

341
00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,040
If you're if you've never done it before and all you have is your car, let's do it.

342
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,160
Hundred dollars.

343
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,680
Let me do it sometime in the warm part of the year because it is unfair to do it in

344
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,440
the spring or late fall.

345
00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,400
I mean, I'm kind of I'm kind of saving up money right now to about like forty dollars

346
00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560
worth of food from Sam's Club.

347
00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,360
That's about two weeks or maybe even more than that, actually, because I barely touched

348
00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:05,360
a ramen.

349
00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,360
I only done one bowl rice.

350
00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:07,360
Oh, ramen.

351
00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:08,360
Oh, shit.

352
00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:12,200
I'll say how much you got left because Sundays are too weak, Mark.

353
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,560
Haven't touched the ramen yet.

354
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,560
So you're still good.

355
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,560
Yeah, I'm still good.

356
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,560
OK.

357
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,000
Crab meat on our hands almost gone.

358
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,160
So maybe you should come with us on Sunday.

359
00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,160
Yeah.

360
00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,160
All right.

361
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,680
Well, we'll start a new card that one.

362
00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,480
But yeah, no, Gavin, that hundred dollar camp challenge.

363
00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,720
Like you got me all like thinking how that would be like, like, dude, that'd be so frickin

364
00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,720
fun.

365
00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,640
Like I said, we'll definitely do it.

366
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,880
The three of us once the summer and then maybe do an event with MSD for it.

367
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,000
You know what I do?

368
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,800
I could I could almost tell you right now, I'd go to the betting section first and just

369
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:59,000
find a comforter for 20 bucks and then a tarp.

370
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,160
I just burrito myself.

371
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,080
I'll probably say a little bit of my truck.

372
00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,320
Oh, you can't ground ground only.

373
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,320
Yeah, God be ground.

374
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,320
No, you can't use a vehicle.

375
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,320
Oh, fine.

376
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,320
Yeah.

377
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:21,080
It's like, damn, if I have to sleep like shit, I mean, it's gonna be a hard bed.

378
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,200
Well see, guys, look, we could do hammocks.

379
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,000
Hammocks are like 25 bucks.

380
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,320
It's a big part, but it keeps you off the ground.

381
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,320
It's true.

382
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,320
There's so many possibilities.

383
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:37,320
I'm just I think I'm too heavy for most Walmart hammocks, so I might have to do the 25 dollar

384
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,320
mark.

385
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,320
Yeah.

386
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,320
Yeah.

387
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,320
Yeah.

388
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,680
I think all three of us are too heavy at that point.

389
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,680
Yeah.

390
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,560
But I mean, it has a good it has a good hammer.

391
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,840
He weighs more than me.

392
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:57,880
So mine works in my size, but it's like a parachute parachute material or whatever.

393
00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,880
Gotcha.

394
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,280
Yeah, because I mean, a hammock would work if you fit in a cheap one.

395
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,920
I would probably just go grab a like a cheap sleeping bag because you can get those for

396
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:17,240
like they're really cheap ones like 20 bucks unless prices have gotten really bad on them.

397
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,720
And yeah, yeah, no, this could be a lot of fun.

398
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,600
And then like a six if we're only doing maybe we'll do two nights, so Friday and Saturday

399
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,920
night.

400
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:34,440
So I could get away with like a pack of hot dogs and a couple packs of buns.

401
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,160
Yep.

402
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,400
Maybe a small thing of peanut butter and a small do we do we add to the challenge and

403
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,200
make it so we have to fit it into a backpack?

404
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,280
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

405
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,000
It's got to fit into a backpack that's like a child size backpack.

406
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:58,080
At that point, you might as well just be like you cannot succeed your passenger seat or

407
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,560
something like that at that point.

408
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,600
Yeah, well, I don't even think we should limit it.

409
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960
Just whatever you can get for under a hundred dollars.

410
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520
Yeah, yeah, for real.

411
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,320
To survive two day or two nights in the woods.

412
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320
Yeah, I'm down.

413
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,320
Yeah.

414
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,320
All right.

415
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,320
Let's do another card.

416
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,320
Pick a number.

417
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,160
Three.

418
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,760
What do you always bring extra of on a trip?

419
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,760
Toilet paper.

420
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,320
Tools.

421
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,320
So many tools.

422
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,720
Yeah, but toilet paper and food for real.

423
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,400
Tools are probably like half my loadout.

424
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,280
I'm not going to lie.

425
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,240
Tools are probably most.

426
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,240
I don't know.

427
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,240
I got that 300 piece set.

428
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,880
I carry a lot.

429
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,120
They're just they stay there all the time.

430
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:57,360
I guess beer usually have beer left over from my end of our trips.

431
00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,360
We do.

432
00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:01,800
And it's not that we don't drink like we drink quite a bit of beer.

433
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,960
We just buy so much before we go camping.

434
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,960
Yes.

435
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,640
Hey, even I brought some and I'm like, I barely drink any.

436
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,040
I think we brought for like our yearly trip.

437
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:20,080
I think we brought three or we brought a 12 pack and like four or five, six packs.

438
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,880
Yeah, sounds about right.

439
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,280
Yeah, I just I overpack food all the time and toilet paper is just one of those things

440
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,880
that you buy it in packs anyway.

441
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,480
So I always just put the whole pack in there and.

442
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,640
But food, you never know, man.

443
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,640
You never know.

444
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,360
We might need it or you have moochers that don't eat.

445
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,320
You have to like feed them.

446
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:49,480
Hey, I packed two packs of hot dogs on our new.

447
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,120
New Year's run.

448
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:54,480
They're like, hey, thank God you got hot dogs because we did.

449
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,480
We forgot.

450
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,480
Yeah.

451
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280
Hey, it's a good thing I did, too.

452
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,880
All right.

453
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:07,200
Pick a number, Mark.

454
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,480
What rig upgrade do you regret?

455
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,600
My power steering, my whole steering, all of it at this point, all of it.

456
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,600
The purchase of the truck.

457
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,280
Oh, I don't regret purchasing the truck.

458
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,680
I love that thing.

459
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,760
Sometimes I regret purchasing mine, but only because I still have to pay for it.

460
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,760
Oh, yeah.

461
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:37,440
Mine's I bought mine in cash so I I can beat the snot out of it and not drive it for a

462
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,440
week.

463
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,240
And I mean, it sucks because I don't have a car, but at least I'm not paying on it at

464
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,240
the same time.

465
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,240
Yeah.

466
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:48,040
I wouldn't say anything currently on my current rig, but the previous rig, when I bought

467
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,240
all the front end parts of my roof rack, I'm still paying for those.

468
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,240
Yeah.

469
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,600
And it was a little much.

470
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,600
The roof.

471
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,680
I was very surprised when you told me you bought a roof rack.

472
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,240
I was like, man, you're still paying for that other stuff.

473
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:15,920
I don't think I have anything that I regret that I upgraded on.

474
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,920
My air compressor.

475
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,920
Yeah.

476
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,720
I should have left the old one in.

477
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,720
That would have been fine.

478
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,720
Yeah.

479
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,800
Sorry, guys.

480
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,800
Great idea.

481
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,720
That was his idea bell.

482
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,160
You muted that.

483
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,160
Yeah.

484
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,360
Bunch of amateurs here.

485
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:44,640
The idea, I think maybe if I had to say that I regretted any purchase, maybe the slide

486
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:52,320
for my fridge, just because I could have waited a little longer and bought something that

487
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,680
was closer to our, closer to the size that I needed instead of one that was kind of an

488
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,760
all fit, a fit all kind of deal.

489
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,720
Cause it ended up being too long and then I couldn't close the door right.

490
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,420
Or the door would engage the latch and make the fridge roll out every time I opened it.

491
00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:14,760
So I had to do some Jerry rigging, which is fine, but it's not a permanent Jerry rig either.

492
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,760
So yeah.

493
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,760
All right.

494
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,160
This is our last and final card.

495
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:27,560
Where is your favorite place to travel in your home state?

496
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,080
Key went on hands down.

497
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,120
Key went off.

498
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,520
Yeah.

499
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:41,760
I remember being my drumming, but you know, I was definitely still higher up there.

500
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Man, I am nostalgia of my first camping trip with my wife at Two Hearted on the edge of

501
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,720
Lake Superior.

502
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,160
It's not really an overlanding destination.

503
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:09,960
You know, it's a, it's still a campground, but that area up there, there's a, there's

504
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,720
another area that I won't divulge that you could get to by getting off road, taking some

505
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,760
dune trails and, and you can get pretty close to the lake.

506
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:28,440
And when you're alone out there, man, well, we had the Aurora Borealis there.

507
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,440
I don't know.

508
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,440
It's bad.

509
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,280
I don't remember the actual name of the other name for it, but the Northern whites.

510
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Yes.

511
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,280
The Northern lights.

512
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:42,280
But I remember the other one, but we had that out there that night when our tent was set

513
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,800
up, the kids passed out.

514
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,040
My wife and I are sitting in our chairs, staring at the, the first time that we could see it

515
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,040
with our visible eye.

516
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,300
That was pretty special.

517
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:55,200
So that was the first time you've seen it with your visible eye in my life.

518
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,200
Yeah.

519
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Do you ever, we have them all the time down here.

520
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:04,880
I never, I never noticed this last year was the most I've ever seen them down here.

521
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,520
But I think one other time when I was out in Carleton, but a lot of the times like I'll

522
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,960
see notifications that other people are seeing them like, oh cool.

523
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040
And then my wife will be like, you want to go out?

524
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,720
I'm like, it's like 12 or one.

525
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Yeah.

526
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Like we still have the light pollution from the towns nearby.

527
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,760
So it's like, no, around here, we really don't have that issue out here.

528
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:33,800
Yeah, we are a little farther out, but I remember back in like, it probably was 22.

529
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,200
I think it was 22.

530
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,640
I woke up to go to the bathroom and just looked out my north facing window and it was just

531
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,300
the whole sky was green and blue and red.

532
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:44,920
And I'm like, what the hell?

533
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,920
Yeah.

534
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,600
No, that was the first time seeing, and I are sitting up there in our chairs and this

535
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,120
is a group ride or a group camp event.

536
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,360
And, uh, and we're all just sitting there like, wow.

537
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,200
Like we've never seen them dance like that.

538
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,960
CNN has never seen them like that either.

539
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:00,960
And it was special, man.

540
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,960
It was a good place.

541
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,960
It was quiet.

542
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Uh, people, normal people can't get there in normal vehicles for the most part.

543
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720
So it was somewhat restricted.

544
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,520
And, uh, yeah, man, it was, it was great.

545
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,960
I keep going back to this hundred dollar camping trip idea.

546
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,960
It's good, man.

547
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,960
It's good.

548
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,680
I'm going to pick up the Kenawa peninsula and drive along that cliffside that we were

549
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,040
at last time.

550
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,840
I, you know what, for our yearly trip this year, we should do that.

551
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,920
I want to go camp at those spots right on the cliff side.

552
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Oh yeah.

553
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,400
I know I have on our list this year that I want to do the porcupine mountains because

554
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,200
we were supposed to do it last year and we ended up missing our, you know, our financial

555
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,880
time window.

556
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:56,520
But, uh, it's, uh, it's still one of our dreams to go out there and then let's do the

557
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,140
Baraka area.

558
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:01,320
Let's plan the porcupines for a yearly trip this year.

559
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,320
Yeah.

560
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Cause we're, we're big people.

561
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,080
We like the, like the waterfalls and shit too.

562
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,120
So stopping at the waterfalls on the way, or if we could see waterfalls on trails, that'd

563
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,120
be fun.

564
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,840
There's so many up there.

565
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,760
There's so many fricking trails.

566
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:23,880
I, yeah, cause we could do one of those campsites on the cliff there at Lake Superior one night

567
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:33,120
or two nights and then go down to our spot in, uh, our secret spot with a dam, the old

568
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,120
dam.

569
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:38,160
That'd be, that'd be a really good trip.

570
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,160
Yeah.

571
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:45,200
And we could show Gavin the beauty of bear country that we never got to see a bear in,

572
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,960
even though we tried so hard.

573
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,960
Yeah.

574
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Newberry, that area up there, we, I didn't see a bear when we were up, but we saw bear

575
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,640
when I was a kid, when we went up there and we saw moose too.

576
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:03,840
We only seen, we only seen one, but I'd like to see a moose again.

577
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:10,720
We could see elk if we went to Pine, uh, you know, Pine river or whatever that place is

578
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,960
called that my granddad likes to go.

579
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Yeah.

580
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,160
I'd love to see elk.

581
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,800
I'd like to hear a bull out call in the middle of the night.

582
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,800
That's just crazy.

583
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,800
That's just crazy.

584
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,800
Yeah.

585
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,120
I want to say it's almost eerie to hear, but when you hear it in the middle of the night,

586
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,880
it's almost eerie.

587
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,840
I can not remember the name of that campground or that campground we always went to, but

588
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,520
I remember this one time it was me, my dad and my sister, we were sitting around the

589
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,600
campfire and all of a sudden the sky, cause they were on the opposite side of the fire

590
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,400
for me, the sky above them just lit up like blue and purple.

591
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,840
And I just watched something fall out of the sky and I was like, did you guys see that?

592
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,960
And they're like, no, no, we didn't see anything.

593
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,520
And then like five minutes later, there was this huge explosion, uh, like a long ways

594
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:04,200
away and I was like, well, I think those two are connected.

595
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,480
Someone's gonna die.

596
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,480
It must be the aliens.

597
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Yeah.

598
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,480
They're gonna be in contact.

599
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Owls, man.

600
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
That's the other thing I see.

601
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,480
I was talking about elk calls, but owls screech owls in the middle of the night, man.

602
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,680
Oh my God screech owls in the middle of the night are eerie.

603
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,680
That one.

604
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,680
Yeah.

605
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,680
That was a screech owl.

606
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,120
We are yearly trip this year.

607
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120
Yeah.

608
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Oh, Sienna, Sienna, what the fuck?

609
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,600
It's like, you're good.

610
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,600
You're good.

611
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Yeah.

612
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,080
My dogs are like, what the hell?

613
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Well there was a pair of them, man.

614
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360
They were going back and forth.

615
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,360
Yeah.

616
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520
I haven't heard them that much before.

617
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,960
That was crazy.

618
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,720
And then there was that one right in the tree, like right at our campsite.

619
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,720
Yeah.

620
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,720
Yep.

621
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,480
We kept trying to see it, but you couldn't.

622
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,680
And then all of a sudden it'd be on a different tree behind and you're like, man, glad we're

623
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,680
all packing.

624
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Do you want to hear something we did, uh, on that trip that still gets me.

625
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,720
So me, Mark and Alan had to run into a gas station one of the nights that we stayed up

626
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,760
late and Mercy was sleeping in her box and we forgot her.

627
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,680
I forgot about that.

628
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,880
We were gone for like a half hour and we came back and Mercy just came running up to us

629
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,080
like, yo guys, you forgot me.

630
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Yeah.

631
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Thankfully we were still there, but she was alone.

632
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Everyone else was sleeping.

633
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,280
She was just outside alone.

634
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680
She came by our tent a couple of times.

635
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Plus she's a good dog.

636
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Yeah.

637
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,040
Well, on that note, man, after we're telling all our campfire stories, we'll have to do

638
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,760
that another episode too, maybe.

639
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320
And we'll, uh, we'll let you guys go.

640
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,320
We'll see you later.

641
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Later.

642
00:31:52,320 --> 00:32:06,880
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