1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,200 Hi, Peace. 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Welcome to Botches Off-Road. 3 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping to 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,960 rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors. 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:45,480 Today we got a little 30 minute episode here with the boys, Alex and Mark. 6 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:46,960 And I think we're going to do some radio chatter. 7 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,400 What do you guys think? 8 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Yeah. 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,480 I figure we can get a couple of cards. 10 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:53,480 So, yeah. 11 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:56,920 So I guess let's start out with Alex. 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,960 I think you got the cards, right? 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Yeah. 14 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:05,440 I'm shuffling them now and I've got a method so that I'm surprised by whatever I draw because 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,800 so the after the dark cards, they've got this back. 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Sure. 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,120 A little campfire. 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:18,040 And then the standard ones have the vehicle radio. 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,320 So I can't even look at the backs to be surprised. 20 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:27,200 So I'm going to shuffle them and then I'm going to close my eyes and draw the four off the 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,080 bottom or just draw four. 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,440 And then you guys will pick a number between one and four. 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,320 And that's how we'll be surprised. 24 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:36,680 Sure. 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Sounds very complicated. 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Alex has got his eyes closed right now. 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Look of concentration. 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:50,080 He looks like Kratos is like nerdy cousin from Man. 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,040 All right. 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 I got four cards. 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Pick a number between one and four. 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,600 You got to agree on it though. 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Two. 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,720 That's the two. 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,800 All right. 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,920 So card number two. 37 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:22,040 What piece of gear has worked better than expected? 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,640 My Max tracks. 39 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:29,440 They only work as a platform. 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,840 They work every time. 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,040 No, that's kind of a that's kind of a hard one. 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Because what piece of gear has worked better than expected? 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,080 I don't have a lot of trust in air compressors nowadays. 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:51,040 And my my my was that the Thor's the Thor's lightning air compressor has been kicking 45 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:58,800 ass lately and taking names and it's been airing up everybody's tires and having no 46 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,000 issues whatsoever. 47 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,440 So that would probably be mine that having that Anderson connector on the front of my 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,720 truck so I don't have to pop my foot every second just plugging that thing in and going 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,040 has been really nice. 50 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,040 So I would probably say the Thor's lightning air compressor for me. 51 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,040 Mark what's yours? 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,040 I think. 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:26,360 Well, I got mine ready to go. 54 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,800 Our hundred dollar Walmart tents. 55 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Oh, yeah. 56 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Yep, that's fair. 57 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 That's their one big their quick. 58 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,440 I mean for a large ground tent there, what like 14 by 10 or something like that. 59 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,760 So all right for a tent that large, it takes us under five minutes to set one up like that's 60 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 that's great for a hundred bucks. 61 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Mm hmm. 62 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Oh, OK. 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,160 We let you mark. 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,160 What do you think? 65 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Oh, hmm. 66 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:02,000 Trying to think because that was a good one until I forgot about that. 67 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,400 What else can I think of? 68 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Can't say compressor combined. 69 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Yeah, it's it's been out one screw and ran it through a piston. 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,400 So I still Gavin's old compressor and rebuilt it. 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,360 And then the other side, the exact same thing. 72 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,040 Mm hmm. 73 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,160 Mm hmm. 74 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Have you tested out your deflators yet? 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,880 I have not yet. 76 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,400 I don't have a compressor to refill. 77 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,560 So how about your lighting? 78 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,000 You know, you're you at that dual that dual beam lighting or whatever. 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,920 That's what the dual beam lighting that came out pretty good. 80 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,120 I'm quite glad it was not. 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,160 I'm glad the price is perfect for it because it was like a hundred forty something. 82 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,680 Like some of those go up to like five hundred depending what brand you went through. 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,040 Was it the whole headlight assembly or just a ball? 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,080 No, just a bulb. 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,120 And what does that do? 86 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,720 So it's you plug into. 87 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Ironically, mine was a fog light ball, so it was quite finicky finding out about that 88 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,920 one with Bob. 89 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,720 I actually needed. 90 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,560 So I went with what was recommended based off of what bulb type it was. 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,160 I do is plug and play you. 92 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Take so there's you got a little snap ring. 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,320 You got to take it off the ball first, put it in the socket and then you put the ball 94 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,240 bin and twist it locks in place. 95 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,800 Now make sure the light panel is facing nine and three. 96 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:48,760 Get locked in and then it just a matter of toggling all the way on and then toggling 97 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,880 back at least once. 98 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Actually, you don't have to toggle all the way back like it says to do. 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,160 You just flip through what setting you want. 100 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,200 You know, or clear. 101 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Hmm. 102 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Yeah, that's pretty nice to be able to run daylight yellows or daylight clear daylight 103 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,520 whites or whatever. 104 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,540 It's pretty cool. 105 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:09,880 So let me let me ask this then. 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Can you guys reread that card if you have it still up? 107 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Do you have it? 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Yeah, I do. 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,520 What piece of gear has worked better than expected? 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:27,200 OK, so let me just be a negative Nancy and prompt that what piece of gear worked way 111 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,560 worse than expected for us. 112 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,720 And I think I'm going to start with this one too. 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:43,160 My jet boil for cooking food did way worse than I was expecting because it's got such 114 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:49,800 a pointed flame and heat source that let's say if I'm cooking a steak, the middle of 115 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,080 that steak is burnt to a crisp. 116 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,160 The outside of it is not so good. 117 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,520 So I would hold up. 118 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,520 Hold up. 119 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Don't be inventing cards. 120 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,320 That's already a card that we will read it. 121 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Well, I was just curious, I didn't know that that would be a that would be a card. 122 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,320 You know, I've never done the radio chatter. 123 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,460 So I was kind of curious to see what everybody's worst things that you know, the worst things 124 00:07:12,460 --> 00:07:18,200 that they purchased and how, you know, did I'll say it now and I'll say it again in the 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,200 future. 126 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,280 The all top air compressor. 127 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Yeah, yeah. 128 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Yeah. 129 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,000 I think that's both of their answers because that really kind of. 130 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Well, that's one of them, but for me, it's my Amazon bumper swing out. 131 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Yeah. 132 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,320 Yeah. 133 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,920 We just had our other episode of that thing. 134 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,720 So but you didn't buy that. 135 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,280 So no, I didn't buy it. 136 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,960 But still, yeah, the thing, the thing, it took a beating when he got stuck and we tried 137 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,200 pulling him out and. 138 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Oh, not that one. 139 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:47,760 Oh, no. 140 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Yeah. 141 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Yeah. 142 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,760 You're swinging out. 143 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Let's just say you're a beating, too. 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,760 So yeah. 145 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,000 All right. 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,360 I'll draw four more cards. 147 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Alex, you picked the or I'm sorry, Mark, you picked this one. 148 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,360 All right. 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Number between one and four. 150 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Let's do four. 151 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,160 All right. 152 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,160 So number four. 153 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Oh, hey, this one doesn't have playing card on the front. 154 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,440 So this is a dirty card. 155 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,840 What is something you can say? 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:26,720 Well, on the trails and in the bedroom. 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Hey, you see that dirt road over there? 158 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,760 I'm going on it. 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Or I'm going down it. 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,760 That wasn't so hard, was it? 161 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,760 No. 162 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,120 It didn't look as rough as I thought it was going to be. 163 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Yeah, that was rough for that. 164 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,400 I thought it was to be. 165 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Maybe we don't try that position ever again. 166 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,200 I don't really like going off camber. 167 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Yeah. 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,000 That looked a little deeper than I thought it was going to be. 169 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,080 Yeah, right. 170 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,120 That wasn't as deep as I expected. 171 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Yeah. 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Wow. 173 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:12,640 That was quick. 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,640 There's so many, man. 175 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Yes. 176 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,720 I think Cole's been road a little too hard. 177 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Hey, man, I think you sprung a leak. 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Yeah, that one. 179 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,520 There's a lot we could say on that. 180 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,600 That's just a great card. 181 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:39,040 Yeah, I figure we can kind of work through these. 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,000 I'd like to go through the whole deck and then we can give a really good review to the 183 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 radio chatter, guys. 184 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,720 But we're at we got time for another one. 185 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Oh, yeah. 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:10:01,040 I'm trying to draw them from different parts of the deck since I can't really shuffle, 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,880 so I don't know what they are or how they are. 188 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:10,160 All right, I got four. 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Pick one through four. 190 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:19,480 What is the longest road trip you've ever taken? 191 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:26,400 That would be for me relatively newer for us. 192 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:33,080 But when C and I took our maiden voyage with the FJ to do the waterfalls in the UP, we 193 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,840 did probably 3000 combined or something like that miles. 194 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,880 We went up from we started in Grant. 195 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Went up across the bridge and traveled almost the whole coast of Superior, starting from 196 00:10:50,600 --> 00:11:02,120 St. Ignace to Newberry up to Pine Stump Junction all the way up through the top part of Superior. 197 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:12,080 Did Munising and Manistee and then kind of went south and took the bottom coast all the 198 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,160 way back. 199 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,120 We made it to I think Leance being like the farthest I think we ended up going with the 200 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,200 time that we had. 201 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,040 And yeah, dude, that was long. 202 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,040 We did. 203 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,060 Jasper is still pretty young. 204 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:34,680 So that was kind of a really it was like throwing the gauntlet. 205 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:39,620 But absolutely, you know, the most fun that we've had in a long time. 206 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:41,200 We loved it. 207 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,160 Can't wait to do that again. 208 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,480 But that was probably 3000 combined. 209 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,720 Probably mine would have been Sierra Vista, Arizona, to Grant, Michigan. 210 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,080 I don't know how many miles that is, but it's easy to find out. 211 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Yep. 212 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:05,040 But I did that in about like 35 hours straight through. 213 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,240 Yeah. 214 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:17,960 So yeah, it's only 1900 miles, but that is a. 215 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:26,280 You got me double checking now because 3000 miles seems like not a real thing now because 216 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,640 I thought it was three. 217 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Yeah. 218 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Let me double check. 219 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Mark, why don't you go real quick? 220 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,440 I got to fact check myself. 221 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Mine would be a while ago. 222 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,920 I think it was back in seventh grade. 223 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,800 Yeah, because I just got off my crutches from twisting both my ankles. 224 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,560 I went out to relative's wedding out in Vermont. 225 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,600 Round total was like 1800 miles. 226 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,280 Damn. 227 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Yep. 228 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Yeah, I did see your visit to Grant and then two weeks later did grant to Sierra Vista, 229 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,920 both of them straight through. 230 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,920 That's alone. 231 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Mind you. 232 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Oh, I had a dog that counts. 233 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:25,720 And I was in an 800 horsepower, a Ram 1500 on race fuel at $10 a gallon. 234 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,520 That wasn't the best choice, I guess. 235 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,520 Right. 236 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 No, that's a damn. 237 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,920 It's a lot. 238 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,920 I think. 239 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Yeah. 240 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Okay. 241 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Let me let me resend what I said earlier about 3000. 242 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,200 It's closer. 243 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:50,260 My first part of the vacation stretch was 500 miles. 244 00:13:50,260 --> 00:13:54,760 My second one was 400 miles. 245 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,440 So that's at 900. 246 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:03,920 And the third part of the stretch, which didn't record all the way was another 400 miles. 247 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,040 So definitely not 3000 miles. 248 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,120 I am sorry. 249 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,600 It's close to like that long. 250 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Yeah, it definitely felt like a long time. 251 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,520 But that was so that's what more like 1300 1500 miles. 252 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:23,160 So that's a yeah, that that definitely felt like a long time. 253 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 But let's let's do one more. 254 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,800 Let's do one more. 255 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,680 Oh, we got time for a couple more. 256 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Yeah, cool. 257 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,680 All right. 258 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,900 Pick one through four. 259 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:37,160 What's on your mark? 260 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Three. 261 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,320 What is your favorite camp meal? 262 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Oh, that's a good one. 263 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,720 I really like those tacos. 264 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,560 I was just gonna say those tacos that Mark made. 265 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Yeah, those are good, dude. 266 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,200 I don't know, I like hobo meals a lot. 267 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,800 They just take a long time to make. 268 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,800 Yes, they do. 269 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Hobo meals are great. 270 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,040 I will say your hobo meal and my hobo meal is very different. 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,480 I didn't know that's what I when I say hobo meal, I'm thinking hobo pie makers. 272 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,160 So a lot of people have that thought. 273 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Yeah, hobo hobo pizzas. 274 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Oh, man, they're fucking great. 275 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 And then followed off with a hobo cherry pie. 276 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Whereas mine are more hobo packets with a bunch of different meats and butter and they 277 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,800 make like the best roast that you've ever had. 278 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,200 They're better with venison. 279 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:44,560 But yeah, I think the one thing we needed more was hot sauce in those 100%. 280 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,920 But the girls, well, my wife is a wimp when it comes to hot sauce. 281 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Oh, yeah. 282 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,440 So we have to add that later. 283 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,720 Yeah, no, those are good. 284 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Yeah, my favorite is hobo packets as well. 285 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,120 Yeah, I I love a good steak and potato. 286 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,800 You know, you do like you do a nice, nice steak on the pan because I contrary to some 287 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:14,640 popular to belief, I I like pan steaks and a cast iron pan will be better than fire. 288 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,920 But I like pan seared steaks and then I might throw them on a grill to get grill lines and 289 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,920 that's it. 290 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Yeah. 291 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:28,360 But I'll do I'll do, yeah, steaks and then I'll make some like fried mushrooms and onions 292 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,640 and the juices that I cook the steak in in the pan. 293 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,320 And then we'll follow it off with like, like for me, my perfect. 294 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Yeah, my yeah, that. 295 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,720 But my perfect one is yeah, is a steak. 296 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Then you have the fried vegetables like that. 297 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:53,320 The mushroom onion, a couple of slices of feta cheese and a fried egg still runny. 298 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,560 And that's like that's my heaven right there. 299 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,640 You do some real nice nice sea salt on top of that. 300 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,760 Maybe a couple of fresh cherry tomatoes. 301 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Oh, eat like kings, man. 302 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,080 And it's really not all that expensive. 303 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,960 The steaks you could do cheap. 304 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Just beat the shit out of them to tenderize them. 305 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,200 All right, one through four. 306 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Two. 307 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,160 How do you keep everything organized? 308 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,520 This this might finish us off. 309 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Yeah, I'll start off because I might probably not. 310 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,880 The might probably the worst as far as organization goes. 311 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:44,960 I have a shelf built in the back of my FJ currently out of wood. 312 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,320 I have a cheap like four or five drawer plastic. 313 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Like, I don't know what you call them. 314 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,720 Those plastic dollar store drawers is ten bucks. 315 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:05,200 I just threw that in the back for putting all like my coffee and my other stuff in there. 316 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,560 And then I have a fridge and stuff for keeping things organized in the future. 317 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 That's going to change. 318 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,400 But that's kind of where I'm at at this point. 319 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:22,680 Packouts so many pack. 320 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,400 I will say my packout cooler, it's the most expensive cooler I've ever bought, but it's 321 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,840 by far the best cooler I've ever bought. 322 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Yeah, I have to put up pictures of how loaded up my truck was when we went to drumming that 323 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,840 second time. 324 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,480 Oh, yeah, dude, that was terrible. 325 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,480 Two great crates. 326 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,240 You know, technically that first one was not even useful at all because just random stuff 327 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,240 we had. 328 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:54,320 I had in the bed of the truck and then the big cooler just strapped on top of all of 329 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,440 it. 330 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,120 I am so glad we're doing the pack out. 331 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,440 We're getting rid of that. 332 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,160 That's the whole much cleaner. 333 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,880 Beyond that is just dropping my back seat down and you have that giant layout for a 334 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,120 storage right there when I don't need anyone in the back. 335 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,040 Yeah, that's nice. 336 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Yeah, it's eventually, man, I can't wait to see what mine kind of turns out into. 337 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:23,280 I'm going to build my whole back end out of wood to try to maximize every inch. 338 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,280 We'll see. 339 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:30,800 I really like the pack out idea, but I really just leading back to just maximizing every 340 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,080 inch I got by doing it with like custom wood. 341 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,120 I think you can max it out, especially you mount a pack out to the back wall in your 342 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:39,120 seats. 343 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:43,040 You have that seat folded down. 344 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,720 He's going to put the fridge there. 345 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,600 No, the fridge is probably going to end up staying for now. 346 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,520 I can't do any seats folded down currently. 347 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Well, when you move your kid, we mean. 348 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,240 Yeah, yeah. 349 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,040 Well, when my kid moves, shoot, a lot of things will change. 350 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:05,960 But like if he goes into a booster seat, that affects how my seats will actually be able 351 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,200 to move and how much space it takes. 352 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,880 So being able to put Jackson on the side is so nice because I can just pack whatever I 353 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,440 want in that other seat. 354 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:22,720 Yeah, because what would happen is I have like a two person bench style seat and then 355 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,560 I have a single which is behind me. 356 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,800 But Jasper cannot sit behind me with the car seat. 357 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,920 How bad, how far back I have mine that's comfortably. 358 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:40,400 That one, when I put that down, it doesn't really give that much more. 359 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:48,440 I mean, it gives a comparatively to like what it's if I was to move the fridge to that side, 360 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,520 it would help a little bit. 361 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,480 But the door also opens on that side. 362 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,280 So I'm pulling the fridge right into the door. 363 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Yeah, but that's about packouts in there. 364 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Oh, OK. 365 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:05,200 I might do like a packout accessible by the suicide door there. 366 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,480 That might be something I do that way. 367 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,400 Or maybe a couple of different packouts, and I think if I do that, it's going to be like 368 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,320 spare parts or something like that. 369 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,840 Like I could I definitely see a use for packouts for me for like tools. 370 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Hey, I need electrical stuff that I grab my whole packout drawer for electrical or whatever. 371 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:35,600 I also think that if you did packouts in the back that you would end up with a lot more 372 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,560 stores than you're expecting because you could shove things like blankets and stuff in between 373 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,560 the packouts. 374 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Yeah, that's hopefully my blankets will be all situated and stuff up top. 375 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,200 I am like I said, I might end up going to packouts eventually. 376 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:59,120 But in my head, the way that I want to do it specifically for what I have is looking 377 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:02,000 like it makes more sense, you know, to build a custom. 378 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,360 But it might change very well. 379 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,400 Like I said, I'm not I'm not closed off to the idea. 380 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240 I just want to try doing it that way first. 381 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Yeah. 382 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,240 And seeing if I can do it. 383 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,040 I know the one thing that's going to have to change is my fridge slide. 384 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,760 And because it's just it's too long for the fridge I have. 385 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,800 And it starts it hits the back of the seat because of that. 386 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,120 So we should we should build you one that's got like a two stage. 387 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,840 So you pull it out and you can have like a table. 388 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,680 But then you pull it out farther to get the fridge out. 389 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,680 Yeah. 390 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,920 I the one that I'm looking at, it's like two hundred dollars. 391 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,480 And it's like it's got like a hundred pound capacity. 392 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,280 It's got a cutting board that slides out underneath it. 393 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,940 And it's the exact size of my fridge. 394 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:54,760 So it's almost it's almost perfect for for that setup. 395 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,280 But we'll see when we get there. 396 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Bison the way that bison bison gear, I think, is the place I'm looking at it. 397 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,600 It's it's actually enclosed. 398 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,440 So there's a metal grade above it and it also can till. 399 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,360 So it'd be interesting to see. 400 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,080 I might do something like that. 401 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,080 We'll see. 402 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,080 All right. 403 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,120 We got time for one more card. 404 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,240 Oh, yeah. 405 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,100 All right. 406 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,100 You pick it this time, Alex. 407 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,100 Just pick it blind. 408 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:29,400 We're going to go with three. 409 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Would you rather have a scenic journey or a scenic destination? 410 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,000 Journey. 411 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,280 OK, so it depends. 412 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Does the journey have challenging obstacles and scenic because then journey. 413 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:52,580 But if the journey is just going to be pretty side roads that I'd rather have a nice destination 414 00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:53,580 to camp at. 415 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:56,480 I think it's all. 416 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Go ahead. 417 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,480 Sorry. 418 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,160 I'm going to say in agreements with you there, Alex. 419 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,880 I I'm going to pick journey still. 420 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,960 I think I'm going to use, for example, too hard. 421 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,880 Like nothing hard to get to too hard at campground. 422 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:19,120 But the the forest roads, the little two tracks that you take to get there are just gorgeous 423 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,120 and scenic. 424 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:25,880 And I enjoy going on that at a good 20 to 30 mile an hour and just kind of chugging 425 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,880 away at that. 426 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,880 Just is the campground pretty too? 427 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,720 Yeah, yeah. 428 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Too hard is gorgeous. 429 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,440 So what I'm saying is, you know, in the context of the question, they say, what would you 430 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,440 rather have? 431 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,440 So would you rather have? 432 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Oh, you are. 433 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,800 So you're saying that the OK, I see what you're saying, that the destination is not necessarily 434 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,800 as good. 435 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Right. 436 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,800 OK. 437 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Yeah. 438 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Shit, I almost think I think my answer would stay the same. 439 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:04,560 I think that I've found we've had really good days of just travel and gorgeous days, beautiful 440 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:12,680 trails and then us having to kind of take it less than optimal camp area to just have 441 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,680 a place to be. 442 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,280 And it's not super gorgeous. 443 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,560 It's just tucked away in the woods. 444 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,120 It's kind of meh. 445 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,720 I think I think I'm still OK with that. 446 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:28,320 I think I'm still OK with the day of the let's say we travel five to six, seven hours a day 447 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440 being great and then just having kind of a meh. 448 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,920 I mean, we're just staying there for a night anyway. 449 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:40,800 So now it's what's funny about you saying that is you always tell me that to you it's 450 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,000 not about the journey. 451 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,920 It's about the destination. 452 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,920 I do. 453 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,920 Yes, you have. 454 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,680 You say that pretty that's why you don't care about hard trails because you just care about 455 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,160 getting somewhere pretty. 456 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,160 No. 457 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,480 Well, that's that's kind of an in-between. 458 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,360 I don't care about hard trails because the trails aren't what I'm looking at as far as 459 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:08,360 difficulty like the difficulty thing isn't what gets me going. 460 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:14,680 It's the scenic the scenic stuff on the way like like the cliff sides and stuff that we 461 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:22,920 were seeing going up to or passing the bridge and stuff, seeing that stuff and the journey 462 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,320 to that is I love that. 463 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:32,080 It's it's the it's the crazy off camber, the stuff that makes you sweat a little bit that 464 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,480 could ruin your rig and destroy your weekend or your week. 465 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,360 That stuff for me, that's not what I enjoy. 466 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,800 So that's kind of what I meant by that. 467 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,720 Like like I love the journey. 468 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,640 I don't love when we get to those spots. 469 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Those are those are scary spots for me because they take out my rig. 470 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,540 They take out my the plan. 471 00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:56,200 You know, I like I like overcoming adversity. 472 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,180 So when something goes wrong, as bad as this sounds like I don't try to make things happen 473 00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:02,180 on the trail. 474 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:03,180 No, you don't. 475 00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:09,000 But the ingenuity, the ingenuity that we have when something happens, I really enjoy that 476 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 part of wheeling. 477 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,080 Yeah, I could see that's definitely a plus for sure. 478 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Like like let's say for our poker run when when Mark's tire defeated, the ingenuity that 479 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:25,520 we all had to get everything done and to get your wheel on us working together as a team 480 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,000 in hindsight for me, that was great. 481 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040 That was such a cool moment in hindsight as I was doing it. 482 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,680 I was like this fucking blow. 483 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Like I don't see it like that. 484 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,640 But I after I do. 485 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,600 So my two favorite moments on a trail. 486 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,320 One of them was just outside of Phoenix. 487 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,400 We were wheeling with a couple of buddies and one of their buddies and their buddy was 488 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,840 driving a Jeep, an XJ. 489 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,760 I think it was like a 97 or something. 490 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,940 And his driver's side wheel, the entire axle just decided to snap and slide out. 491 00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:09,400 So we strapped a log to his wheel and just skied his truck down the mountain to get it 492 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,600 to a recovery point. 493 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,980 Which is fun hindsight. 494 00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:18,440 But I imagine if you're that guy, it was it was so fun at the time. 495 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,720 I like for like me if that was to happen. 496 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,360 All I can think about and we've talked about me being more of the cynical, you know, the 497 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,260 safety officer being more the glass half empty. 498 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:30,140 But I'm looking at it as up. 499 00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:31,200 Now I have to fix this. 500 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,600 Now I can't do that. 501 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,400 Now I can't finish my trip because we have to do this. 502 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,400 This is this. 503 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,880 I mean, to me, that's an hindrance. 504 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Whereas me taking a set of trails on on X that I've never been on before. 505 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,760 It's all new. 506 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,000 It's all beautiful. 507 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,360 I don't necessarily care about how crazy they are, like what they're rated at. 508 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Of course, finding a couple of spots here and there that are like, ooh, this is, you 509 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,200 know, this is gnarly or this is cool. 510 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,220 Let's just get past it and go. 511 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:03,220 That's cool. 512 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:07,520 But when you start getting into, like, let's say if I was alone and I did those ever trails. 513 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,160 Oh, man, dude, I would have been white knuckling and not having a great day if that was if 514 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,680 that was a larger portion of an adventure than I was having with my family. 515 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 I'd be like, yeah, don't have a winch set up. 516 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Don't have proper. 517 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,560 I do have proper recovery, but only when I'm traveling with other people. 518 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,560 Right. 519 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,020 So it's like this is like, yeah, though, this is not fun to me. 520 00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:31,440 The destination, though. 521 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,440 Yeah. 522 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,560 The second time we were with my buddy who had a Suzuki Samurai. 523 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,680 And I mean, we were on like normal, like Arizona forest roads. 524 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,540 So, you know, they're kind of whoopie and have mountains and stuff. 525 00:29:46,540 --> 00:29:52,880 But he came up over this hill at like probably 65 and he just launched that little samurai. 526 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Just he was good. 527 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,480 Eight foot off the ground, dude. 528 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:03,600 And this motherfucker came down and bounce and landed like on his passenger side roof 529 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,400 corner and then rolled onto his roof. 530 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,640 And getting him out of that situation was so frickin fun. 531 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,560 And then once we had it, once we had it rolled back over onto its wheels, we checked the 532 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,580 oil oil was fine. 533 00:30:18,580 --> 00:30:22,160 So we started it up and drove it back to you know what? 534 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,160 You know what? 535 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,000 I can identify with this feeling that you can feel. 536 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,120 But for me, that happens in shitty weather. 537 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,960 So like, I always tell people I'm like a drama queen when it comes to like shitty weather. 538 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,320 Like when they're like, dude, there's going to be like 12 inches of snow, everything's 539 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,960 closed. 540 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,440 Like people are boxed in their houses, can't get out. 541 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,840 There's powers outage. 542 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,280 That's when I'm like, yeah, this is this I'm having a bot like figuring that out, the ingenuity 543 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,760 helping other people out. 544 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360 That's like my fun, my fun. 545 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:04,200 But like, when it when it directly directly will either impact me or the family as far 546 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,360 as like the the trip keeping going. 547 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. 548 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,480 I'm good on that. 549 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,040 But yeah, man, that was fun that these red these radio chatter. 550 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,040 I've never done this before. 551 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,040 This is pretty fun. 552 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,040 Yeah. 553 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,080 Like I said, I'd like to work our way through the deck. 554 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,280 I figured that gives us lots of 30 minute episodes and I think they're fun. 555 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 It answers a lot of questions. 556 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,240 So any listeners that really need it, it'll be there for them to get to. 557 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,460 Yeah. 558 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:39,380 So on that, man, we appreciate you guys for listening on this little 30 minute of radio 559 00:31:39,380 --> 00:31:41,840 chatter and we'll see you next time. 560 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Later. 561 00:31:42,840 --> 00:32:01,960 Thank you.