1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,260 Studies show a�a authoring of Curious 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,880 Welcome to botches off road join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories 3 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Tent camping to rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors. We got our normal 4 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Normal panel here me Alex and mark or mark Alex and I if you want to be grammatically, correct 5 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,040 The panel of losers the panel of nerds, how do we put this? 6 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Outcast apparently 7 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Yeah, we've been the outcast panel apparently if you want yes MSMST 8 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:09,080 We're like the we're like the dirty group. They like to keep under the rug. They don't like to talk about us 9 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,760 Yeah, what the heck's with that? We do like all the fun stuff 10 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,440 You guys made a reputation for being too rowdy before the safety officer came on board 11 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,520 No, the safety officer does not slow us down whatsoever. No, not really 12 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,560 Well, I haven't had any reasons to yet. I 13 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Haven't had to put the kibosh on anything. The safety officer has been not very safe lately as himself anyway, so 14 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,320 Making bad decisions. I don't think I've seen the safety officer make a single bad decision 15 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,520 So he tried to climb a hill that he wasn't ready for 16 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,000 I wasn't ready for it. But you know what that hill led to bigger and better things 17 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,760 I then convinced my wife to getting tires and 18 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Your confidence went up 19 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Yeah, I did it went up a little bit the but the tires man these last wintery days 20 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,960 It's been these tires have been just acting phenomenal. I'm so impressed. I am 21 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Mud trains are 22 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,920 Mud trains need to get one of those those rubber 23 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:21,600 Peelers or whatever for doing the tires the tread on tires 24 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,840 I don't start we just got to start stippling those blocks. He's got on there 25 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,400 Come on man 26 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,400 No, I do that's so much fun 27 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,760 It says we're legal in our state. He probably would put studs on him 28 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Oh imagine mud drains with studs that fix all they'd make the perfect tire, dude 29 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:43,640 Yeah, I 30 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:46,440 Just imagine you just hit in the front of the car 31 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,800 Just so you can imagine you just hit in the fucking rev limiter and studs flying out into windshields. I 32 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Yeah, I never hit the rev limiter because I'm always scared it's gonna go boom 33 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,600 I don't think you can hit the rev limiter. I don't yeah 34 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Have I 35 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Did I did that day I went up the the 36 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,160 The hill and then I got mud all over Alex's face. Yeah, what the heck that was funny 37 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:16,160 I thought I hit him I felt really bad and then then he's over the top of the hood 38 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,600 I can't see him and he thought you were doing like hand motions like I can't see dude. What are you doing? 39 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Yeah, that's what he goes. No, I was just clearing my face. I'm like, oh cool 40 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,760 I'm stuck. So 41 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:35,640 That was work stuck. No, we got out. I could have always went forward. Yeah, I could have always went back 42 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,440 I just didn't want to but uh, how's everybody? Oh 43 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Oh, yeah, it was definitely definitely a hassle but I guess let's I guess do a little recap 44 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,600 I haven't talked to you guys much this week. Just been busy and 45 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Dealing with the work grind and stuff. How's everybody been? 46 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,480 well the 47 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Been two days of cold and today was the day to test the generator you mean 48 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Yeah, three days it took me an hour and a half to get the generator started on the farm I 49 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,880 needed two bottles of diesel 9-1-1 and 50 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:20,880 A couple cans of ether to get her going. Yeah, so sounds about right. That wasn't great then 51 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,840 after 52 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:24,880 generator testing day it was time to 53 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,680 take out the 54 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:33,360 How do I say this without being morbid the birds that were not strong enough I 55 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Had to remove them from the barns if anybody doesn't know the mortality rate with birds 56 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,380 Not great. They die not it's normal 57 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,680 When I worked at when I worked at tractor supply we'd get them through the fucking mail guys 58 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,680 So you get chicks in through the USPS they'd call you because they stink so damn bad 59 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,680 They're like will you hurry up and pick these chicks up? 60 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,800 We get there pick them up at least when we open the box at least a couple are dead 61 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,560 It's pretty normal in the chicken industry. So yeah 62 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Hmm and then they get older and then they get mean and they start killing each other because turkeys are turkeys 63 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,280 But yeah Cornish cross will do the same thing meat birds 64 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,280 They're just they don't get the protein that they need or 65 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,680 There's not enough food around and they just start eating each other out 66 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,440 So yeah, then I was went to do that and my tractor wouldn't start 67 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,760 So then I spent an hour and a half with diesel 9-1-1 and ether to get the tractor started 68 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,640 So, yeah, that's how my week's going 69 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Wow, how about you mark? How's been working outside? 70 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Nothing. I've been home 71 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,200 lucky 72 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,840 Yeah, our boss caught it for Monday and Tuesday 73 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Yesterday morning. We got a call 74 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Said I don't worry about coming in today. So we didn't come in today either 75 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Hopefully work Thursday and Friday. Yeah, it's supposed to warm up a little bit by then I think today 76 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Grant is supposed to get 77 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 What four to six inches tonight? 78 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,280 Supposedly but again that never happens 79 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,280 But then another supposedly another six inches over the next few days 80 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:16,720 I mean, we've got we've got a little over four inches right now. Well when I came in so 81 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,240 Yeah, we had we had around four inches at 82 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,240 four p.m 83 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Yeah, we just grew up in Alaska right now. I guess it's 40 up there with green grass 84 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:30,320 Right. What I just yeah, I'm like 85 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:36,000 I want more snowman. I'm sick of this. I want to be plowing like two foot of powder 86 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,560 I'm just uh, I I don't like this half-ass snow shit 87 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,360 It's like four inches in in where we are. We're so close to lake effect 88 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:51,760 But we're not at the same like we we hit this weird area where we don't get affected but like white cloud 89 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,080 30 minutes south will 90 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,200 and 91 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,080 North right. Sorry, uh 30 minutes north will and then other people around us will 92 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,360 We never we it's like we miss it. We're in a weird bubble 93 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:08,800 We usually we usually get lake effect every year. This is the first year where we're missing it 94 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,520 Yeah, I guess 95 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Yeah, we got a little bit more last year, but to me I like when I used to live at my travers we 96 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,080 I remember I was getting like a foot a night sometimes and it was like we don't get nothing like that around here 97 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,600 That was last year. We got a foot and a half overnight last year 98 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 I don't feel like I I feel like we got that much. Did we? 99 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Yeah, we get I had drifts in front of my brooder that were taller than me and I had to dig them out with a shovel 100 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Yeah, I don't know why the fuck I keep forgetting about that. I don't know why I keep forgetting about that 101 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Little that little storm time. Yeah, it was like a week and a half 102 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Yeah, that was actually a lot of fun for doing deliveries. I uh, I was doing deliveries on the side 103 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,800 For old ladies and stuff that couldn't go out and couldn't drive around and 104 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,800 So I was driving around in it for them. I lost a lot of money, but it was a lot of fun 105 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Because I use a lot of money and gas going through that shit 106 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,760 I got the forerunner stuck in a snowdrift in the 107 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Farm parking lot just or driveway just trying to mess around and it was like 20 miles an hour to dead stop 108 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,320 In an instant. Oh, yeah. Oh, you also had fun with the fedex driver 109 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Oh, that was this year. Yeah, the FedEx driver that fell into my yard 110 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,040 Yikes 111 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,560 I'm not looking forward to cleaning that up in the spring. Yeah 112 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,000 We had a FedEx driver that got stuck in a 113 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,000 driver 114 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,920 We had a FedEx driver that got stuck in a driveway 115 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,280 At my aunt's house. He was just trying to pull out and he just got stuck in the gravel 116 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,640 So he got out of the truck and it was my uh, it was 117 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,120 I guess it's uh, it was a little over a year ago because it was my uh diaper party 118 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,200 For Jasper 119 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,240 Mm-hmm. And so all our family there all the guys of course were walking up. Let me get there. Let me get there 120 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,920 I'll drive it out. I'll get it out the guy he got right out. He's like, all right. Yeah 121 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Yeah, go ahead. Take so 122 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,160 So one of my uncles got in there and the steer starts driving the fucking FedEx truck 123 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,120 The rest of them are behind it pushing them and rocking them out 124 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,080 I'm I went to the truck and got my strap and everything because I had that sitting right there 125 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,840 But by the time I you know, by the time I got my strap ready and drove the truck down there. They rocked it out 126 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,000 I 127 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,680 Hooked up the winch to this FedEx truck and dragged him across my yard 128 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:29,600 But it wasn't strong enough to pull him back up on the driveway 129 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,680 Though I I mean the forerunner in general wasn't not just the winch 130 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,920 So I went and got the loader and the loader pulled him up in like one second 131 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,240 I'm like, man, I should just wing did that from the get-go 132 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Yeah 133 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:50,560 Well, that's I well anyway, i'm hoping that we get that kind of snow, but I I do have a trip coming up 134 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Um, it's not really an overlandy trip sienna and I 135 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,760 We're just tired man. We need a break like 136 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,800 We're we're getting all worked up over my job and everything and how much we freaking hate it 137 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:07,360 And i'm like I just need like we need to take a weekend and just get away from things. So I went and found a 138 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,120 Hotel in Traverse City for like 60 dollars a night 139 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:18,240 And uh, we're gonna go up there for a couple nights and i'm gonna get a day pass for Great Wolf Lodge for the kid 140 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,360 and we're gonna take the kid to go play in the water park on Great Wolf Lodge and 141 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,680 Hell, yeah, it's it's cheaper. It's cheaper to actually 142 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,480 Get two nights at a hotel 143 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,880 And then pay for day passes to Great Wolf Lodge than it is to actually just rent a room for two nights at Great Wolf Lodge 144 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,480 oh, yeah, that that depends because if you 145 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Go up with two parties. You can get one of the suites with like multiple beds and stuff 146 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,680 And that is significantly cheaper than a hotel room. Oh, yeah. Yeah, if you're going up with two different parties 147 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,680 That's nice because you can split it but 148 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,440 Um, yeah, we're just going by ourselves. It was kind of an off 149 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Not really a little planned thing. We just needed to get out and do something 150 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,360 and for me it was like I needed to get out and do something that was 151 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,160 I don't know. Not the normal. Stint out the same trails and and then Zach 152 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,720 And a couple other guys were talking about doing some trails near I think 153 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Atlanta area something like that 154 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,120 So 155 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,640 we're gonna 156 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,440 Do that fun stuff for we're gonna go up there Friday night 157 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Stay do the whole all Saturday. We'll play in the water park 158 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,440 Sunday 159 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,400 You know, we'll we'll sleep in the hotel and then Sunday or you know, sorry Saturday night. We'll sleep in the hotel 160 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,400 And then Sunday morning won't get up and meet those guys out at the trails 161 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,240 And then we'll do some trail riding for the day and come home 162 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,240 Is that this weekend? Yeah 163 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Oh, i'll be uh 164 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Doing steering stuff 165 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Yeah, I I was hoping I could get someone someone else to come in and do the whole 166 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,960 you know 167 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Great wolf lodge thing with us, but 168 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,040 It was just too fast and and like I said, I need the break 169 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,360 I about walked out the the other day and and quit without any kind of notice or anything just getting 170 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Just getting tired man. I retail was fun while it lasted 171 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,520 I have a certain amount of patience for it and when I can't recharge my batteries when I can't go out and camp 172 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,200 When I can't go out and do some of the shit that I love to do that recharges my batteries exponentially 173 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,120 Then it just drains on me and the winters are really tough for that. Especially when you you know 174 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,120 When you leave at dark and you go home at dark so you don't ever see daylight 175 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,640 When you know, you're working in the winters like this. So right 176 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,600 so it's tough and uh, i'm looking at some other, you know, some other options right now, but 177 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,400 And of course next year. It'll be a little different for winter camping because 178 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Will actually be set up for it. But I we are not set up for winter camping at all. We don't have anything 179 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,320 We used a uh, a buddy heater 180 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,120 In the colder months of fall which 181 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,280 did okay with our tent, but you know, we had a 182 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Oxygen meter in our tent and to keep it warm enough 183 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,200 In there 184 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,200 It was kind of tough 185 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,600 Yeah, and as uh, alex and I 186 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Kind of talking about how much how much I guess monoxide or whatever you want to call it. It gives off 187 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,120 It's uh, we the oxygen meter went off in the middle of the night when I had the 10 oh my god 188 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Which was not what I meant to do. It was I thought I had a better draft through it 189 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,080 But I was going through a pound 190 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,920 I'd say pound 191 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Tank every two hours 192 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,440 oof 193 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,760 So it was like what I was going through three or four tanks a night 194 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,920 But if you 195 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,800 I mean you could help that a lot by getting like a 20 pounder 196 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,280 Yeah, I mean, it's like a 20 pounder 197 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,320 I mean you could help that a lot by getting like a 20 pounder 198 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Yeah, the 20 pounder would have been great when we were out there 199 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,720 I think we all kind of knew that that was like a 200 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,800 For now kind of thing. Yeah, and I didn't want to spend money on a 20 pounder and all that because 201 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Diesel heater really was where I was gonna end up anyway 202 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,120 right, but 203 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Yeah, I know it ended up being kind of expensive doing it that way because we ended up we were there for about a week 204 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,120 No, we just like a weekend four days. It was like five days. But yeah, yeah pretty much 205 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Yeah, because I think we had the heater for four days because that first night we were like fuck. It's cold 206 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,360 and uh, yeah and going through 207 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,560 We went through. Yeah, like I said probably four tanks a night 208 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,800 And then that doesn't include cooking or anything like that. We probably went through another two tanks and cooking 209 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,200 So, I don't know dude. I stayed nice and warm on my 210 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,120 on my bougie ass inflatable cot and 211 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,920 my army sleeping bag 212 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,160 Yeah, getting off the ground does help with yeah getting off the ground. Yeah for sure 213 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,480 the I think the biggest issue wasn't me as much as it was like making sure my son and wife were 214 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Enjoyed like my wife is not built for that 215 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,760 I just like giving you crap. Oh, yeah, I know but no 216 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:17,200 My wife's just not built for cold weather and to make it as enjoyable as I can 217 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:24,320 So that she agrees to go out because she will not she will not agree to go out if it's not comfortable 218 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,880 especially for sleeping like 219 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,960 so I uh 220 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,400 You know, that's the reason for not really going out this year 221 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Setting up a tent in the snow all that kind of bullshit is not 222 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 It's not gonna work for her 223 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:46,000 So I think if we uh, I think when we get the rooftop tent next year, hopefully 224 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Um, that'll be a little bit better a little bit more secure. It's 225 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,720 off the ground too, so 226 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,120 But so there's a difference between a cot and a rooftop tent 227 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,960 A rooftop tent is inherently going to be colder than a cot 228 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,180 Because yeah, you're gonna have that all that wind passing through right? Yeah, so it doesn't have any insulation 229 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:09,700 With the cot it gets you off the ground, but you're still in a wind blocked 230 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:16,660 Uh tent right whereas with a rooftop tent. You're basically on the ground with wind running under you 231 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:19,460 Yeah, so my my theory with that 232 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:22,180 And let's just say i'm not 233 00:16:22,420 --> 00:16:23,940 We're not going to use the diesel heater 234 00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:30,260 But my my theory with that is that it comes with like a three inch foam pad that we're going to use kind of as like 235 00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:34,900 An insulator and that foam the found foam pads usually work pretty well for holding in the heat 236 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:41,060 And then if you put uh, what's that reflective insulation if you put that on the floor and the roof you'll be fine 237 00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:45,060 Yeah, yeah, they also they also make a hanging 238 00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:49,860 Comforter pretty much that hangs on the inside lining 239 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:57,060 Uh, I think our buddy zach actually has one and he used it in his rooftop and he said that he didn't even have to really put the heater on 240 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:02,020 And I believe that um that it's it's a really good ins 241 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:04,020 insulation layer 242 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Yeah, no different from sleeping under the blankets. I suppose but 243 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Yeah, i was about to say roofness. I know they have their own one that they put up in theirs 244 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,840 Yeah, i'm trying to think of other ones but 245 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,560 The the tent the the four by four colorado tent is a canvas tent 246 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:26,360 Um, mostly canvas anyway, so it's it's a heavier fabric. It's going to stop that wind a lot better 247 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,680 And I think it's gonna I think it's gonna hold heat in better 248 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,720 so 249 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,600 I think i'm gonna buy a new tent for next year, too 250 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,720 You're gonna go for like a canvas hot tent, aren't you? 251 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,400 100 going for a canvas hot tent with you know 252 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:45,640 Yeah, I think that's I think that's a super good thing for like 253 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:51,160 Uh for you. I think that'd be a great way to do a little tiny wood stove and a hot tent 254 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,920 Yeah, yeah and 255 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,040 I uh, i'm looking for 256 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Ones that are quick set up like um one tigris has their tp top tent thing. Yep 257 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,800 um, it's one pole and like four uh, 258 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,600 or six or seven 259 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:17,560 Stakes so that's probably the route i'm gonna go that way. It's literally like two minute setup and then pop in the wood wood stove 260 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:23,560 You know, i'm just thinking about this what I wonder I would love to do a comparison one night 261 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,200 With my deal 262 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:31,240 So I'd love to do a comparison one night with my diesel heater heating your tent versus the wood stove 263 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,520 To see how much more or less efficient 264 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,120 How much fuel we go through if it can stick to the same temps? 265 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,280 I think that'd be a fun comparison because obviously everybody knows that wood heat once you get it going 266 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Is pretty superior in most ways. I mean it gives off a lot more heat 267 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:57,480 But you have to constantly maintain it whereas a diesel heater is not so much but it's the downside to the diesel heater other than using 268 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:02,440 Diesel fuel is that uh, it runs typically off of a battery or power source 269 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,040 so 270 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,920 I think that would be a really cool comparison to see 271 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,880 If the temps stay 272 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:12,120 and then you know how much 273 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,800 How much kind of goes into it 274 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,800 I want the wood stove 275 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,920 Because I can use it for cooking just as well as I can for heating 276 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,440 Yeah 277 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,240 I mean it's more setup and it's more work 278 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,240 But there's also something romantic about sitting by a wood stove even if you're alone 279 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,800 I can agree to that and I think before 280 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,800 My current setup 281 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,280 I probably would went that same way, too 282 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,960 I think what works best with what I have right now is going to be probably that but I would 283 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:52,520 The romance it's funny you say romantic because that that does it does have some kind of part into there man. There's something about it 284 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Dude, it's like it gives the perfect ambiance for beating off dude. It's just 285 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,080 It does man keeps it warm 286 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,000 You could throw your lotion on the stove to get a pretty warm. Oh, yeah, dude. Hell. Yeah 287 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,720 That's a little bit of hot oil 288 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,280 Yeah, a little bacon grease that you had 289 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,840 anyway, the 290 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,680 But no, it's uh, you know, it's kind of like uh the 291 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,200 The whole log cabin thing. Yeah, it's like 292 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,360 You know having a log cabin with your little wood stove out on some property 293 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,120 It's uh, yeah, there's something there's something kind of romantic about that whole thing 294 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,720 But that's uh, I think it's gonna be cool. I think you definitely 295 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,320 I'm wondering how much of that you could store on your roof. Once that's that tent is down 296 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:50,040 That you could do pretty much the whole tent up there the couple that i'm looking at they break 297 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,760 Uh, like this one here. Um, I guess I could link it. This is the one tigris 298 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,680 It's got a 12.3 inch or 12.3 foot uh floor width 299 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,960 So, you know diameter, yeah, and then 300 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Uh floor width so, you know diameter, yeah, and it breaks down into smaller than a small packout 301 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,360 That's good, man 302 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,480 So i'd be able to throw it in a packout and throw it on my roof really 303 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,800 Yeah 304 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,800 And that's uh, and that's asleep's probably what three to five people? 305 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,760 I would say two comfortably if you have a wood stove in it. Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense 306 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,120 Because 307 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:37,480 It is round instead of squares. So and the you know, obviously the roof slopes 308 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200 So you can't really 309 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Take up as much space as you normally would and there's a center pole 310 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Yep. Yep center pole 311 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Um, I don't know if this is going to be your setup next year the queen-sized 312 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Foam pad, but I would look into that because I don't know that it would fit 313 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:00,600 Um for winter time I do not plan on using that uh queen-size inflatable cot 314 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,920 Figured not that 315 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,320 That is I don't think my wife would go camping with me in the winter for one 316 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,560 and 317 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,280 For two that is only because she is not happy sleeping on her own cot 318 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Another thing is we gotta watch for memory foam because it does freeze during cold temperatures 319 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,280 Right. That's a good point. Yeah 320 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,520 That's something that i'll look at too, I think 321 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Because like I said that foam pad that comes in there 322 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,080 I think it's part foam part air. I have to double check when I when next time I look at it, but 323 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,680 it's uh, i'll have to take a look at that too, but 324 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,760 I'm just 325 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:46,040 You know, i'm ready to ready to do that traveling and i'm ready to get out and start traveling west and 326 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:53,960 And that that fj is going to be our fallback shelter our housing if anything goes to goes awry, you know 327 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,600 if we 328 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,480 You know if something ever happens while we're trying to do that plan 329 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,680 We can always live in the truck 330 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Semi-comfortably, you know, we have the fridge we have all that 331 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840 It doesn't take a whole lot 332 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,120 so 333 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,120 We're we're kind of in the middle of the truck 334 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,480 so 335 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,480 We're kind of hoping to do that 336 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,480 I could uh 337 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Just get a one person cot tent and then put a diesel heater into it 338 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,560 I debate about that 339 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,360 I've seen people they'll run the diesel heater on the outside 340 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,320 and they'll just run a hose into like uh, not like a baby sack but like 341 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Well, I know yeah, I'm outside but like i'm talking about they'll they'll do like a one person hiking 342 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,120 Like yeah hiking tent almost and just put it in at the foot 343 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,680 That's that's an option for me as well, though. I really like the tp idea. So i'll probably end up doing that 344 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,440 Yeah, like you like you said there is something about that 345 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,600 there and 346 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:02,680 You know my the other way I look at it is with the tp if it's really cold and we don't want to sit at a fire 347 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,680 Because you know, it's fucking wintertime 348 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:10,040 We can fit three or four people sitting in the tp and play cards or something 349 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Yeah, and you know, I hate to say this too, but uh, I think I was looking at 350 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:23,080 I think i'm pretty sure I was looking at some of benji's uh videos on youtube and they have that propane 351 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,160 Fire the fireplace that made out of like the ammo can or whatever 352 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,800 That thing is kind of cool 353 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:31,080 I 354 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,840 You know, I would love to have like a just a fire pit all the time 355 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520 So when you're camping something like that 356 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,400 Camping something like that would be really cool 357 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,680 So the propane fire pits, I still think wood is better here 358 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,600 But when you get out west to places that have burn bands, that's when you really need the propane fire pit 359 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Around here a propane fire pit 360 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,800 it's 361 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,200 It's an extra thing. You've got to haul around and it's extra. I mean you got to stock more propane 362 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,680 um, it's bulky 363 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,000 It is kind of bulky. So I was okay. So let me let's put out scenario 364 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,520 um 365 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520 It's the middle of the winter in the up 366 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,400 We're out camping alex you have 367 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Um, you have two or three bundles of wood 368 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,440 Okay 369 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,440 um, I have 370 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,920 A five pound propane tank on the wheel like we were kind of talking about earlier 371 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,860 Okay, and I have the fire fireplace in that situation 372 00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:34,860 situation winter camping 373 00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:37,180 in 374 00:25:37,180 --> 00:25:41,500 Both of you guys, I guess what would you say would be better for the night the wood? 375 00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:43,500 No, right 376 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:47,500 Yeah, that five pound pro with that fire pit, uh that five pound propane 377 00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:52,060 You're gonna get a couple hours with five bundles of wood. I can probably get 378 00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:54,700 you know 379 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:58,060 A night maybe two nights depending on how big of a fire i'm burning 380 00:25:58,780 --> 00:26:00,780 so, okay, and then 381 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:02,780 we add in 382 00:26:03,340 --> 00:26:05,340 Uh, you know 383 00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:10,860 The amount of space that five bundles of wood takes is it worth it still? Yes 384 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:18,140 Because I i'm starting to lean when it comes to all you want the fire pit for currently 385 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:21,580 Is just sitting around and some some warmth 386 00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,300 Okay, so i'm not right 387 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,460 Right, but like throwing up. Let's say we're throwing up chairs 388 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:33,500 And we have you know, and i'm just saying this on two separate because I want I'm interested to hear 389 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:37,980 But the the scenario is that we found our camp up there a couple feet of snow 390 00:26:39,020 --> 00:26:43,980 Um, it's just unrealistic to find wood out in the couple feet of snow in the middle of the up 391 00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:46,380 That's going to be dry enough 392 00:26:47,180 --> 00:26:53,500 Um, I think you'd be surprised that well, we're just gonna that buried wood is actually gonna be pretty dried 393 00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,380 Sure 394 00:26:56,380 --> 00:27:02,300 And if you're starting with a couple of uh stacks you start drying wood before you put it on 395 00:27:03,260 --> 00:27:07,100 I can I could say that we're looking at setup time. We're looking at um 396 00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:12,700 Digging this uh, the snow away from the wood cutting the wood, etc 397 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:16,060 And then we're looking at plugging in a hose 398 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:19,260 Lighting the the fire pit 399 00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:22,940 The the the time to do I the both of them 400 00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:26,220 The amount of space that it takes up in your truck to have that much wood stored 401 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,740 Is it still looking like you're? 402 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:34,620 I mean, and this is just purely not for cooking. This is just for uh, 403 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:37,900 I'm just for ambience really so 404 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:45,500 The thing is it depends if I have to carry around a fire ring of my own if i've got the portable one that mark's got 405 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:47,740 Mm-hmm, then 406 00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:51,260 Those four stacks of wood and that one portable, uh 407 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:55,660 Fire pit take up about the same amount of space as a 20 gallon 408 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:56,940 um 409 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:59,900 Propane tank and a propane fire pit 410 00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:01,420 Yep 411 00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:08,380 So, I don't know man because i'm because i'm like like i'm saying, you know, you have a five ten pound tank 412 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:13,020 On the back of uh, let's say the back of the fj on the spare tire carrier 413 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:19,420 Uh, I guess it just depends if you put yourself in get broken if you prefer well, I'm 414 00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:22,380 I'm just well i'm just trying to think of it as from like, uh, 415 00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:27,260 Objectively and that's kind of why i'm asking about this. I'm trying to 416 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:31,340 Put more scenarios in to see if that changes it 417 00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:34,060 Or if you're you know 418 00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:39,180 You know the only time the only time I see propane being worth it is if we're in a burn ban 419 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,140 Because you can burn propane during a burn ban 420 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:46,940 Yeah, well even in a burn ban most typical burn bans if you have a fire pit 421 00:28:46,940 --> 00:28:53,740 Uh, I think of the up at least and if you have a fire pit, that's a contained fire pit. That's different. Isn't it? 422 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:56,460 I'm talking about out west. Oh, yeah 423 00:28:57,420 --> 00:28:58,940 Yeah, I mean 424 00:28:59,340 --> 00:29:03,740 See, i'm i'm kind of an in-between on that because I like the crackling of the fire and everything 425 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:06,460 But if i'm just if i'm sitting for 30 minutes or so 426 00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:12,060 And we're just sitting by the fire to warm up and chill and we just got done wheeling all day 427 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,060 Then it almost to me. It's like, well 428 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:17,740 If you're only looking at 30 minutes, then yeah, the propane makes the most sense 429 00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:21,020 Yeah, so so it's conditional for sure 430 00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:26,220 Because to me if i'm setting up a fire i'm going to be there for two or three hours at a minimum 431 00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:32,380 Yeah, so that's and that's yeah, that's what i'm trying. I I guess in my situation. I probably wasn't clarifying but 432 00:29:33,020 --> 00:29:35,020 Yeah to me. It's like we're out wheeling all day 433 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:37,820 We're we just we're setting up tents 434 00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:41,100 We just want something hot to sit by for a little bit chit chat for an hour 435 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,660 or so and then we're going to bed pretty much and 436 00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:46,300 to me 437 00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:53,020 In those certain conditions, I would like I think a propane fire pit with the space that you would save 438 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:57,100 Would probably be there. But yeah, if you're gonna be there for a while 439 00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:01,340 If we're all hanging around the fire, you know having a couple beers and all that 440 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,900 fire pit other and 441 00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:07,820 To bring in the romanticism behind it too fire pits just the way to go 442 00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:14,220 And I think if you have a fire ring like what mark says that contains and and uses that heat a lot better 443 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,500 uh, they just have a 444 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:23,500 Way more efficient, right exactly. So so like uh, you know, it holds that heat 445 00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:28,940 Pushes it out. It's a lot better than just throwing it on the ground because that's how what I was kind of 446 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:31,740 Pointing at was you know fire in the snow 447 00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:38,140 Because there's no you know, no pits around where we're where we're at. So we're starting a fire in the snow 448 00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:40,380 With the wood in the back of your truck 449 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:44,300 That's where it's right. Yeah, so 450 00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:46,860 Yeah, that's interesting because 451 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:49,340 Yeah, I think it is conditional 452 00:30:49,340 --> 00:30:55,660 Then the other argument people have for propane is there's not much smoke. Well with that fire pit that marks got there's not a lot of smoke 453 00:30:55,660 --> 00:30:57,660 It burns. No, there isn't 454 00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:03,420 Yeah, there is there is something to say about those the the design of those fire pits actually do work pretty well. So 455 00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:07,020 Um, I'd actually I don't know. Did we actually talk about that? 456 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,700 Mark why don't you talk about that a little bit because I don't know if we talked about it in 457 00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:18,780 In the mail recap. Yeah that you guys that you uh mark actually won a fire pit from 458 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:22,060 Uh from his trip. So yep 459 00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:28,300 It was uh, that was actually pretty cool. I haven't actually seen it yet, but we'll have to 460 00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:34,860 You didn't yeah. Oh, no, you didn't come over that day that patrick. No, he was he was the part where patrick was over 461 00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:38,060 Which we were burning out in the middle of winter and stuff 462 00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,140 Yeah, yeah 463 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,900 but that is uh 464 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,820 But yeah having a ring like that for sure if you already have the ring 465 00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:48,060 um 466 00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:50,060 Makes more sense, but 467 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,700 I was just curious way cheaper because I think 468 00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:55,740 Was it a hundred dollars for that? I think normally 469 00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:00,940 Yeah, something like that and they'll probably say for pain ones like 200 or more 470 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,540 Yeah, yeah looking at looking at cost for sure 471 00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:10,060 Um, I would say though if we if we're sourcing bundles of wood 472 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,700 Seven dollars a bundle or so 473 00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:14,940 Each time that we're out longevity 474 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:18,700 It's two dollars and forty cents a gallon for propane 475 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:25,660 It almost makes more sense to have propane longwise. I mean it'll pay for itself better 476 00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:27,100 I 477 00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:31,180 Don't know because you're gonna go through that gallon faster than what um 478 00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:35,180 We you know a fire pit would go through a bundle of wood 479 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:38,780 That just depends on your wood 480 00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:43,020 But also my issue with propane is that you're gonna want to use it for your wood 481 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:46,460 Propane is that you're gonna want to use it for cooking at the same time 482 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:53,660 So you're getting two different things to use that propane up with that's a good point. That's a good point. Um 483 00:32:54,620 --> 00:33:01,900 We just need to invent we just need to invent a diesel uh fire pit. It'll be great guys. I see no problems with this plan 484 00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:05,660 No, but that's a good point mark 485 00:33:05,660 --> 00:33:09,740 You'd have to run like a splitter of some sort if you wanted to try to cook at the same time and 486 00:33:10,220 --> 00:33:12,220 And then there's just not enough pressure 487 00:33:12,220 --> 00:33:16,140 Most likely if you run in a 20 pound tank, there's just not enough pressure between the two 488 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:18,940 To actually do anything 489 00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:24,940 So actually it looks like you can get smaller propane pits for like 150 bucks 490 00:33:24,940 --> 00:33:32,860 That's yeah, like so it depends on your size. That's really not bad. Um, yeah, and i'm talking i'm talking ammo can so I mean 491 00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:38,860 It's really oh that one. Oh that one. Yeah, that one's really expensive 492 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:43,980 I know i'm but that's what i'm talking about is that that one that's like this big 493 00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:49,660 So when we're talking about space saving and it's a foot by six inches 494 00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:57,820 And whereas i'm thinking of the the majority of propane fire pits i've seen that are a lot bigger than that. Yeah giant cylinders 495 00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:01,980 Yep. Yeah. No, no, no. Okay. So yeah, i'm sorry my bad 496 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:05,980 No, you're good. I totally forgot that thing actually puts out a lot of heat too 497 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:11,500 So, I mean I kind of see why you do that one. I would you does that change your mind a little bit? 498 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:17,820 Oh, I still I still like wood, but that that one's also going to use less propane. Um 499 00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:23,580 Yes, that one I would probably use over wood in the winter time. Yeah. Okay. So 500 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:26,300 Okay, so ignore the cost 501 00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:28,940 Of that, let's say you want it 502 00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:31,660 Yeah, now 503 00:34:31,660 --> 00:34:32,860 Yeah, okay 504 00:34:32,860 --> 00:34:34,220 Yeah 505 00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:38,380 I I that is what I was speaking of but it is it's good to see 506 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:40,780 uh 507 00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:45,420 I i'm curious if something like that might be better for us in the future 508 00:34:46,140 --> 00:34:47,340 as far as uh 509 00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:49,980 maybe having one of us have something like that because because 510 00:34:50,620 --> 00:34:54,060 I can kind of see that when we did the mst poker trip 511 00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:57,020 We could have hung out in the parking lot a little bit and threw that out real quick 512 00:34:57,820 --> 00:34:59,820 Yeah, pain up and just heat everyone up 513 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:06,300 All right. Yeah, you know even when we're at lunch, you know, you think about how long it would take to set up maybe a minute 514 00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,620 Yeah, and i'm again i'm going off of having that tank off the back 515 00:35:11,180 --> 00:35:12,380 the tire 516 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:15,340 Yeah, maybe you guys would have let me hang out a little longer than 517 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:21,980 It was a lot of people were cold. So yeah, I think I think that would have helped having something like that in the middle 518 00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:26,140 I was so not ready to get back in that truck. I know you weren't 519 00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:31,580 So everybody else was and we were like dude, it's so much warmer sitting in the vehicles right now 520 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:37,580 But part of this I don't have any like winter clothing I have a sweatshirt and that's uh, 521 00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:40,700 I have a winter coat but 522 00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:42,940 I've had it for like six years 523 00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:46,140 And the last time I tried it on it was baggy as hell 524 00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:49,180 But I tried it on here a couple days ago and who? 525 00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:51,660 It's tight 526 00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:54,700 I think I only wore my carhartt hoodie that trip 527 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:57,260 I don't remember bringing a winter coat 528 00:35:58,060 --> 00:36:02,540 I don't think you did. It wasn't really that cold out, but it was just the wind and everything else 529 00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:05,420 Yeah, it's the wind 530 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:07,660 I'm pretty sure I had my hey dudes at that time 531 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:09,980 because I uh 532 00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:11,980 Well, I had my hey dudes on 533 00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:14,220 Oh, no, I didn't I had my hiking 534 00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:19,100 Hiking boots on because I was gonna switch to my mucks if anything crazy happened 535 00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:23,180 I wasn't really anticipating on that last hole. So I didn't really 536 00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:26,620 just didn't switch to my mucks just when that happened so 537 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:29,660 They didn't end up getting used but 538 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:34,700 I think I brought my mucks, but I don't think I was wearing them. I think oh no, I wore my combat boots 539 00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:41,900 Yeah, yeah, which for anyone wondering combat boots are a terrible choice with mud and snow because it builds up under your feet 540 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,340 I had I had a pair of combat boots 541 00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:50,300 They were like a light tan that I bought from buckley old engine show for like 25 bucks 542 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,340 and I i'm sure there were some off-brand whatever but 543 00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:55,980 they they 544 00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:57,180 sucked 545 00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:59,340 in winter the traction was 546 00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:02,220 this mud terrain 547 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,860 The only reason I wear combat boots is because I have so many that I got for free 548 00:37:07,820 --> 00:37:12,300 And I have a hard time buying new clothes and shoes when I have them that work 549 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:15,580 See that's the thing is like sienna's like why don't we just buy you a coat? 550 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:19,020 I'm like, I don't plan to be this fat forever. I don't want to waste the money 551 00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:23,020 That's the thing is like like I'm uh, I think I was wearing a 2x 552 00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:30,220 Uh before jasper was born I was wearing a 2x and now i'm wearing like three to four depending on what it is 553 00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:37,260 Oh, dude, so is he we were at sam's club and they had these really really nice winter coats marked down to like 20 bucks, right? 554 00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:43,260 And I tried on the 2x which was the largest size they had and it fit me like a 1x 555 00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:47,740 And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like i'm too fat to get good deals 556 00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:49,740 Like now I can't be fat anymore 557 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:53,900 Yeah, i've started eating a little bit healthier and 558 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:58,380 Uh, it's it's gonna change man. I can't 559 00:37:58,940 --> 00:38:03,260 I have so many nice expensive winter clothing layers 560 00:38:04,060 --> 00:38:09,180 That I invested in when I was more of a 2x size. Yeah, like um 561 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,220 Like actual layers that are really nice for it 562 00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:15,660 So i'm just losing money at this point 563 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:17,980 I'm not gonna spend a bunch of money on forex because 564 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,700 I'm not gonna be a forex for 565 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:22,220 long 566 00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:27,340 I uh, I think it's really funny because i've been losing weight for listeners. I've lost like 567 00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:31,180 Four i'm down to 265 568 00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:34,140 So that's like 569 00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:36,300 35 pounds in the last three months 570 00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:43,980 And I noticed that my army gear from when I got out of the reserves all of that is starting to get super baggy on me 571 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:48,700 Which is great. Yeah, that's it's a great feeling. Oh my god. You don't still tight. So 572 00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:51,740 Yeah, I mean, it's a good feeling dude. I uh 573 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,740 I noticed that i've started to lose a little bit ever since I started this job 574 00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:58,300 Uh, just moving around a little bit more 575 00:38:58,540 --> 00:39:00,540 Not more of a desk job, but 576 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:03,980 I've started to lose a little bit. I'm not eating as much because i'm not 577 00:39:04,460 --> 00:39:06,620 sitting bored or anything like that, so 578 00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:08,460 um 579 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,580 That helps 580 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:11,900 I did kind of pick up smoking a little bit again 581 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:13,420 and uh 582 00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:14,940 But that's just been like 583 00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:20,940 I did I was so far I was so close to flipping out and just throwing my keys down and walking out the other day 584 00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:27,180 I went took my lunch break went to the gas station picked up a breeze or whatever. These little vape things are I was like 585 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:30,060 It's like I just need to take a couple puffs and 586 00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:36,380 Now now i'm kind of back i'm back to it but like I could obviously I could stop anytime 587 00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:38,940 I just don't I never really like stopping anyway 588 00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:42,620 Yeah, I drifted from vaping because i've been vaping since like 589 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,480 2015 2016 590 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:49,980 and I just drifted from that to the like rogues or 591 00:39:50,860 --> 00:39:51,980 zins 592 00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:56,460 Just because getting the stuff for my vape has gotten so fucking hard 593 00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,740 Yeah, I 594 00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:02,060 The one thing that I didn't like about it was 595 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,700 that I always got like 596 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:06,860 My juice would leak 597 00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:12,700 Over and fill in my juice and I'd vape like a freight train because I was only doing three meg uh mg 598 00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:15,260 For the longest time 599 00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:19,180 So I pretty much just breathe it in. It sounded like darth vader just that's what I do 600 00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:23,260 And uh 601 00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:24,460 and 602 00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:28,300 Then uh, you know, then i'd have to wipe my windows out of my truck every couple days and 603 00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:34,620 That was honestly that pissed me off because it was like if you like the nicotine you have to wipe out of your windows 604 00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:40,540 Is so much harder to wipe than just like fog or anything. It'd be the one thing to piss me off 605 00:40:41,020 --> 00:40:46,700 But I can't stand disposed dude. They they taste bad. They don't hit as good and 606 00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:49,260 They make my throat burn 607 00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:51,820 Yeah, this one is not bad. I uh 608 00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:57,100 This I don't know. I just got a breeze because uh, my aunt used one and it was just what I was 609 00:40:57,660 --> 00:40:59,660 I don't i've never used a dispo before that 610 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:04,220 But this isn't bad. Like I said, I just I only hit it when I just feel like yeah 611 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,660 I want to I guess which I guess isn't really 612 00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:15,340 Doesn't stop like it's a little bit like i've been hitting it throughout today and just kind of here and there whenever I feel like it but 613 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,300 I feel like i'm already better 614 00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:24,620 I don't know if it's placebo, but I already feel like i'm a little calmer. You know what I mean? I uh, 615 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:27,020 I'm picturing the 616 00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:32,140 I'm picturing the chapter art that mark's gonna make with ai. It's gonna be an fj just sucking on a mod 617 00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:35,180 Yeah, for real 618 00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:36,300 but 619 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:40,060 Yeah, it's it's I mean I like I said, I stopped when uh when jasper 620 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:44,380 When he found out we were having him and I really didn't want to because I liked doing it 621 00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:46,780 and uh 622 00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:49,740 But now that he's now that he's born and everything. It's like 623 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:52,780 Nicotine was a really good appetite suppressant 624 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:55,980 It really is an appetite suppressant. Oh it is stop 625 00:41:56,460 --> 00:42:00,540 When I stopped smoking I gained probably 30 40 pounds 626 00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:04,620 Just wow trying to find yeah, dude. It was it was fast 627 00:42:05,260 --> 00:42:10,300 30 to 40 pounds just using you know, like just I don't know just substituting 628 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:14,780 And uh, it was it was quick though like from that 629 00:42:15,420 --> 00:42:16,860 from 630 00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:18,860 Then actually having 631 00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:24,780 And I don't know what kind of bullshit happened after that but like I gained fucking crazy amount of weight between that 632 00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:29,340 Another 40 to 60 pounds. I've always known you as a big guy. So 633 00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:37,900 That's good. I know well when we met I I was bigger, you know, because jasper is already born but that was but that was the joke 634 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:39,500 Yeah 635 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,540 So the uh, but I was 275 636 00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:50,620 before jasper and I was meal prepping every day and meal prepping every day and I was going to the gym and it was a it was a 637 00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:54,540 You know more of a muscular 275 is going to the gym three times a day 638 00:42:55,180 --> 00:43:00,140 So I was doing pretty good. I had such bad, you know body dysmorphia about it though 639 00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:02,140 I had no idea that I was actually doing good 640 00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:05,900 Until I looked back on my photos. I'm like damn god damn it 641 00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:10,300 I was doing pretty good. I was doing pretty good. I was doing pretty good 642 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:14,700 So I went to my photos. I'm like damn god damn it. What did I do? 643 00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:20,140 Yeah, when I uh, when I look back at army photos, I'm like goddamn there's like half of me there 644 00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:24,700 oh, yeah when people are like, you know, there's some of the other day was like 645 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:29,340 Did you see that big guy dude? He had to be like 300 some pounds. I'm like 646 00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:31,740 damn 647 00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,740 because I 648 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:39,540 said, but people don't like know that I'm like 300 some pounds, but they're like, yeah, he was big, man. 649 00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:45,240 He was like 300 ton pounds or like when they or people compare big people, they're like, you know, he was a big guy like you. 650 00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:47,380 I was like, fuck. 651 00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,100 My 652 00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:56,400 Wake up call we were testing the scales on our feed bins and my boss is like, well, 653 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,120 this one is calibrating at 300 pounds when you stand on it and I'm like, huh, I'm not that big. 654 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,680 So he went and got a floor scale and I was 300 pounds on the dot. 655 00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:13,920 Yeah, I think right now I'm at I am at probably three 656 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:23,700 50 I haven't weighed myself and probably a month or two you don't you don't look like you carry that much weight though 657 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:27,580 Like you're a bigger guy. Don't get me wrong, but I would never have guessed high threes 658 00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:30,140 Yeah, I did 659 00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:31,900 360 brother 660 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:35,300 and that I like I looked at Santa like and 661 00:44:35,820 --> 00:44:42,400 Further for the listeners. This is just my kind of humor. So don't I like to see I was like shoot me like fucking 662 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:49,000 Just kill me now. Okay. I I told her if I ever got above like 340 to just shoot me because at that point 663 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,000 I'm too far gone 664 00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:54,840 And I looked at her and I was like shoot me the doctor looks at me. I'm like, no, no, no, no 665 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,220 I don't need a grippy sock vacation. I'm good. I'm just joking 666 00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:59,580 but 667 00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:01,420 yeah, apparently 668 00:45:01,420 --> 00:45:03,740 apparently dark humor is not healthy and I 669 00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:10,740 Had someone I had someone tell me that it's not healthy that I plan and dying on in space when I'm 80 and I'm like 670 00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:12,740 Why that's a long happy life 671 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,100 Joker I joke about people. I'd be like, yeah, I wasn't really planning on living past 672 00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,900 23 so I don't really know what a hell I'm doing with my life 673 00:45:21,580 --> 00:45:24,500 Yeah, still figured it out cuz I wasn't planning on getting this far 674 00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:29,600 So yeah, I mean it's a it's a work in progress. I I 675 00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:33,500 Have the knowledge. I have the skill I 676 00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:40,780 It's odd because I'm kind of the more I think about it the more I feel like it is a weird type of addiction 677 00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:43,260 It's it's hard for me to like 678 00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:50,860 Let's get gym memberships at that place in New ego and start working out together. I have gym membership at 24 or planning 679 00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:52,860 or was it 680 00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:54,300 the 681 00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:57,380 One in Fremont because I was working at Fremont 682 00:45:57,380 --> 00:46:02,220 I'd go right but for so it's it's too expensive now to do two of them because that's what I was gonna do 683 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:08,060 What if you just cancel that one and move to the one and you have to pay I have to do the I have to 684 00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:10,060 Payout fee or whatever which is the rest of the year 685 00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:13,940 That's why so it's like a couple hundred bucks 686 00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:18,540 I'm gonna do the one in New ego just cuz it's close 687 00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,100 Yeah, I wanted to 688 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:25,020 You know, I was I was getting to a point to where I was having fun 689 00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:28,300 I was there for like I said three some hours some days and 690 00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:31,460 It got to the point to where it was more 691 00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:35,220 By the time I was getting home and cooking dinner 692 00:46:35,220 --> 00:46:41,700 It was like 10 30 11 and then that became more unhealthy because we're eating so late and seeing us pregnant 693 00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:44,740 She's like, hey, can you like be home at a decent time, please? 694 00:46:45,620 --> 00:46:49,260 like yeah, so kind of call that I 695 00:46:49,260 --> 00:46:55,380 I I have never been big on weightlifting. I mean I did for a while I weight lifted for about a year 696 00:46:57,260 --> 00:47:02,460 But I was never good at it so cardio has always been my thing and I lose a lot of weight when I start fucking 697 00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:07,220 Are you cardio? Yeah. Oh, I love dude. I I like to sit down bike for cardio 698 00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:14,820 Because I could do like a podcast or something or YouTube video and watch over landing videos while I was doing like the bike 699 00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:18,540 But like I do mostly it was like yeah, I was like weight training stuff like that 700 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:25,180 But it didn't be me on a treadmill just watching Family Guy. Yeah, I treadmill suck, dude. I 701 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:29,420 I used to do close to 75 to 80 miles a week 702 00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:33,860 Yeah, no, I I liked the hiking aspect more 703 00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:41,060 So like hiking and stuff is different for me. I could do double or triple the mileage 704 00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:45,020 I could do like I would like to do with you guys at some point if we ever get there 705 00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:50,140 I'd love to do that 40 mile dragon dragon trail hike it. Oh, I want to do that, too 706 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:53,660 I'd be awesome. That'd be sweet 707 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:59,700 And still a lot of real up there too. It's all I think it's all yeah, it's the same thing 708 00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:04,420 But it's it's 40 miles dude, it'd be such a fun 709 00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:10,140 If such a fun little backpacking trip do that do like four days. Oh, yeah 710 00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:14,100 Ten miles. Oh, that's pretty easy. I think in the spring 711 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:18,180 I'm gonna get my bike out and go through it because I think I want to start riding bikes. Yeah 712 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:20,180 I should really do that too 713 00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:24,700 My ass is too fucking big to be on a bike, bro. I gotta lose some more weight before I do that 714 00:48:25,460 --> 00:48:28,460 We'll get your weight down and then we'll get you on a bike. It'll all be great 715 00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:32,100 Yeah, no, I'm I also like you know 716 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:35,980 It's funny is that I could probably go cheaper on a roof rack 717 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:40,100 If I didn't need my static to be so fucking happy 718 00:48:43,260 --> 00:48:48,620 They might my static gross weight that I needed to be to factor in my wife my son and I 719 00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:51,180 because I weigh two 720 00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:55,100 Two times what I should three times. I should I 721 00:48:55,660 --> 00:48:59,340 Needed to be pretty high. So the print zoo is like is the highest 722 00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:01,340 static weight 723 00:49:01,340 --> 00:49:08,340 Rack that is commercially available for my truck and I've gone through Sherpa. I've gone through Westcott designs 724 00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:10,860 I've gone through all sorts of them 725 00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:13,380 Amazon of course, but I 726 00:49:14,780 --> 00:49:17,780 think it's like seven something and 727 00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:23,300 I just needed to be a little bit bigger. I'm halfway worried about my fucking ladder 728 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:28,220 I'm gonna have to write it. My ladders gonna break every time I go up and down it or something 729 00:49:28,220 --> 00:49:32,700 See, this is why you get a nice ground tent. Then you don't have to worry about weight. No 730 00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:37,540 No, I we've did the ground tent. We're moving past we're moving the bigger and better 731 00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:41,540 Like I saw in the bedding more ring 732 00:49:42,380 --> 00:49:45,260 Smaller and not necessarily better 733 00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:48,940 It's actually bigger for me, it's a king-size 734 00:49:48,940 --> 00:49:52,900 It's a king-size sleeping platform and we have a tube 735 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:57,660 It's gonna be smaller. Then we have a tube out right now. Oh 736 00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:05,340 Oh that blue one. Yeah. Oh that blue one. No, that's not an everyday thing. That was just a 737 00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:08,820 That was just the one that I brought out for you guys because we do 738 00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:11,340 That was a multiple day stay 739 00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:13,820 Yeah, that I think that 740 00:50:13,820 --> 00:50:20,140 Yeah, that one that one's great for those three days or you know, whatever just set up base camps 741 00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:22,620 But the type that we're gonna be doing it's 742 00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:27,420 Nope, that's not gonna work. It takes too long. It's too big 743 00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:34,300 It's a it'd be is a lot easier for what we're doing to do how we're doing it 744 00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:37,900 I want something that's gonna last a long time. I want storage 745 00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:43,660 It's gonna double as storage so it's gonna be nice 746 00:50:44,540 --> 00:50:46,540 Looking forward to it. I could 747 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:48,940 Camp anywhere on that. I don't have to worry about 748 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:56,940 What kind of terrain we're on how muddy the ground is. I don't have to worry about all that shit the sand the mud 749 00:50:57,580 --> 00:50:58,860 snow 750 00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,860 I don't have to clear a bunch of snow out of the way 751 00:51:00,860 --> 00:51:07,820 You don't have to clear a bunch of snow out of the way for a ground tent either you set it up on top of it 752 00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:12,460 Yeah, and I'm thinking about quality of life for my wife and stuff, too 753 00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:18,140 I mean, like I said, this would all change if I was doing this solo my my my kit would be very different 754 00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:25,900 So yeah, I just wintertime. I know she won't go out with me. So I just plan on solo winter camping, right? 755 00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:31,260 Take a dog. Oh, I'll take her. She doesn't care. I gotta get her a new car heart though, because 756 00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:35,420 The one that I got her when she was uh, one year old 757 00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:40,620 Now she's almost 10 years old and it doesn't really fit anymore 758 00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:48,300 Yeah, well, that'll be good this plan like I said paying off some stuff this year 759 00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:54,700 I'm gonna pay some debt off here in the next couple months. Hopefully, uh, 760 00:51:54,700 --> 00:52:00,620 Hopefully everything is gonna kind of go the way that we plan it to and then we should have that tent by 761 00:52:01,420 --> 00:52:03,420 mid late spring and 762 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:06,140 Then I could start 763 00:52:06,460 --> 00:52:07,740 really 764 00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:10,700 Really building out to what we want 765 00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:14,300 Customizing it and then we should have that tent by 766 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:19,900 Really building out to what we want. I'm customizing the back. I think I am gonna do 767 00:52:21,580 --> 00:52:27,020 Um, I think I'm gonna do probably more of a custom wood drawer type situation 768 00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:29,260 um 769 00:52:29,260 --> 00:52:31,260 but yeah, we'll see man, but 770 00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:33,900 Yeah, I uh 771 00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,820 I should be getting my roof rack here in the next couple of months, too 772 00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:39,660 um 773 00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:42,620 I had a little surprise situation where my 774 00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:47,340 OEM power steering rack that is a little over a year old decided. Hey 775 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:49,900 I don't need to exist anymore 776 00:52:50,380 --> 00:52:51,500 So 777 00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:57,660 I need to I just got a new one today. It's not oem. Shoot me. Toyota pierced. I went the oem route once 778 00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:00,300 so 779 00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:01,660 I uh 780 00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:07,340 I just got a hundred and seventy dollar one from detroit axle and new outer tie rods 781 00:53:07,340 --> 00:53:12,460 and i'm gonna rip my steering shaft out and do a couple weld mods to clean up the slop 782 00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,700 and 783 00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:18,220 It's gonna be a bear of a project, but it'll be worth it in the end 784 00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:22,860 Even if it ate into my uh packout and roof rack budget 785 00:53:24,140 --> 00:53:27,820 Hey, at least it's better than replacing a whole bumper like I have to now 786 00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:30,380 Yeah, what the hell dude? 787 00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:32,780 Never buy amazon bumper 788 00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:38,620 Yeah, gavin you kind of bent my bumper out a little bit when we had to pull me out a lot a lot of it 789 00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:43,340 Hey, they told me I know I could have hooked up my kinetic and 790 00:53:44,060 --> 00:53:46,060 And I would have made it worse 791 00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:50,060 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's even more. Yeah, that's even more uh energy, huh? 792 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:56,140 It is a poorly designed bumper and that meant for kinetic pull. You know, we did technically do a kinetic bulb 793 00:53:57,260 --> 00:53:59,260 Yeah, kind of 794 00:53:59,260 --> 00:54:01,260 Don't tell me 795 00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:03,260 Yeah 796 00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:05,100 Yeah, but yeah 797 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:06,700 after uh 798 00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:12,860 I mean you got it for free it came on the truck and you got a year ish out of it. Yep 799 00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:15,980 Just about a year. So 800 00:54:15,980 --> 00:54:22,060 I'd say for a free bumper. It's not the end of the world. No tip of the day. Keep the amazon pumpers away 801 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:24,780 Yes, and with that in mind 802 00:54:25,340 --> 00:54:27,340 Uh, we thank you guys for listening in 803 00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:30,060 Uh, and we'll see you next time 804 00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:32,060 later