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Welcome to Botches Off-Road.

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Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping to

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rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome.

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This is a new year, new botches, new season, new season.

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And we're going to just kind of kick it off pretty relaxed.

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We're going to do an episode here on the poker run.

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And well, that's going to be before, isn't it?

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Yeah, that'll come up.

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That'll drop before.

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So this is actually like, you're going to hear this and be like, well, duh, you're okay

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with it, but I keep, I keep forgetting that just because we're recording it before doesn't

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mean it's actually going to drop before.

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So yeah, but I guess we're just going to do a quick chat.

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We've been kind of chatting it up anyway and talking about, you know, or whatever upgrades

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we plan on doing or buy our newest buys.

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You know, Christmas was just around the corner here and we all got some goodies here and

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there.

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Oh, I got no goodies for the truck.

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Well, technically you just got some goodies for the truck.

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You can't change as one.

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Yeah, that was needed.

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And a goody.

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Yeah, but I had to pay for all of it.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I get that.

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Well, I would still consider that a Christmas present, just not for you, for your truck.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So that's fair.

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So and a new wheel bearing.

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There you go.

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So I guess we'll start with Alex then.

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So what's your truck?

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Does your truck have a name?

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The forerunner with F-O-R-R-U-N-N-E-R.

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Okay.

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I'm just curious because I was like, mine has a name.

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I didn't know if yours did.

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Yeah, no, I never named it.

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It just never I always would come up with something and then it just never stuck.

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Right.

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So you so you said you did a wheel bearing.

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You did oil change.

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Yeah, I have to do a front wheel bearing again.

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Again.

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Like, yeah, again.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What do you what do you what?

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Yeah.

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My driver said wheel bearing failed.

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I can't drive my truck right now.

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Oh my God, dude.

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And the black truck won't start.

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I'm doing great, man.

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What is so starting up with issues again?

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So no, no, it's just straight up won't start.

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It refuses.

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I think the starter went out.

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Oh my God.

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Oh yeah.

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Things are great, man.

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All right.

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You know what?

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I see the appeal behind third gens.

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Absolutely.

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But I'm telling you, mechanically, I don't know why, but they are meant to be shit boxes.

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OK, OK.

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So here's the thing, though.

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Both of these trucks have over two hundred and fifty thousand miles on them.

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Brother is stockhomed, apparently.

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The black truck had the ever loving shit beat out of it before we got it.

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And I beat the ever loving shit out of mine.

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And then he beat the ever loving shit out of it in New Year's, too.

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And now, you know, the black one beat the crap out of him.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Beat the shit out of Alex.

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He's like, I've seen what you did to my cousin.

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Yeah, I need to.

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I haven't decided if it's actually a starter problem or if the cable going down to the

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starter has an issue.

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But when you turn the key, nothing happens.

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All the powers there.

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Yeah, no, nothing.

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Did you tap on the starter?

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It's been cold.

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You probably sunk the starter in one of those puddles and now it's just freezing up.

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Oh, it's been cold.

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I just let the truck sit there because it's too cold to work on.

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Yeah, I know.

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I was I was going to like, man, if only I had someone with a bae, but then their bae

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is limited hours.

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So it's like, it's like, does it even count?

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Yeah, sucks.

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Stupid winter hours.

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And then I've also been working like 13 hours a day because my farmhand decided to break

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a feed line.

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So dramatic feed.

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He just broke a feed line and decided not to come to work to that the next day.

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You know, no big deal.

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That's fair.

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I think if I broke something, something crucial to operations, I'd be like, you know what?

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Yeah, I'm out.

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No, I'll in case he's listening, I'll give him some credit.

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Him not coming to work this morning was not his fault completely.

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Yeah, because he cut the brake lines on the guy's car and that's why he couldn't show

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He's a ditch.

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Yeah, I took him out.

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I was done.

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It was not.

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It was not his fault.

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It was the issue.

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I'm the reason.

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No, I so while you you had a I guess you did some maintenance on your truck and now you

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have another wheel bearing.

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What about you, Mark?

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Did you get any Christmas presents for your baby?

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The silverback.

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Silverback.

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I was calling it silver side.

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We didn't even talk about my $200 icon shocks.

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Hey, oh, okay.

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Yeah, I didn't know if you wanted to.

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I thought I thought.

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Yes.

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I mean, it is because they're fifth gen shocks and I have to convert them, but it's like

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100 bucks to convert them.

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Yeah, so I got a I got six icon shocks, three coilovers and three shocks for $200.

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Out of the six, there's one that leaks.

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So I mean, that one will have to be rebuilt.

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The other five seem fine.

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One of them is brand new in box.

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So there will be a icon shock install wrap up episode coming up soon.

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You know, I'm such a glass half empty kind of guy that I just see the problems before

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they start.

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And all I can say to Alex and all the other listeners out there is like, I hope it works

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so well for you.

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But when I hear this stuff, I'm like, third gen issues.

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Like I just hey, Shane doesn't have issues.

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He doesn't beat the shit out of his third gen, man.

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See, it's not a third gen problem.

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It's a problem.

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It's a user error.

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Your gen shouldn't be beaten.

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That's that's the that's if you want a third gen, you have to treat them right.

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You have to you have to finesse them a little bit.

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Get her chocolates, get her flowers, do oil changes every once in a while.

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I mean, to be fair, I really didn't have any issues for a year and they all happened at

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once.

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As soon as I met him, like just shit started happening constantly.

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Before I beat the shit out of it every weekend without a single problem.

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So yeah.

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You know what?

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I wish I could believe him so much.

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I really do.

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But all I've seen, Mark, he's a paid he's paid actor.

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It doesn't it doesn't count because he's been in botches beforehand.

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He's a paid actor.

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I just joined botches this year.

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And from what I've seen, third gens have been nothing but problems.

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They're gorgeous problems, though.

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Yeah.

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I mean, they're gorgeous problems.

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They're beautiful vehicles.

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I mean, it likes it goes places usually.

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So does Subaru's.

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That's like literally their motto.

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It doesn't it doesn't get stuck that often.

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It does get stuck, but not that often.

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I'll give it that.

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I'll give it that.

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It does have a winch.

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Oh, OK.

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No, no, it does.

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It goes a lot farther into places where I just take the bypass because to me, it's like

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it's not about the it's not about the actual obstacle as much as it is making it out of

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it.

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So I'm like, hey, yeah, like, I'll take that obstacle before before it even goes.

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I got hit with the poker run.

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I won't go too far into it so we don't spoil.

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I'll say that was quite this show.

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Yes.

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But I won't I won't spoil it too much.

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But but I'll say this that we didn't have Nav from Alex, which we were hoping to have.

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So Sienna and I did Nav and led the group.

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And I tell you what, that meant that I was supposed to be the tester, the puddle tester,

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the obstacle tester.

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Was that your first time leading?

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Something that difficult?

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Yes.

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Yeah, I mean, I've I've led multiple times, but you know, like I did the cryptid and stuff.

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Yeah, I've led little trips multiple times, but nothing one, not an actual event like

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that, and to something that had such difficult obstacles in it.

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You know, like holes that were just fucking two foot deep.

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I feel like you're just driving into a fucking lake.

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I forgot we didn't take you through all that ever the first time.

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No, we backed out.

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Yeah, we backed out.

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I was like, dude, what the fuck?

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We could have done that for hours.

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I was having such a good time with that.

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And now looking back to how bad the water was this this last time we went, I couldn't

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imagine the lakes that were there from the water.

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I mean, the water was that bad.

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That one part.

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If you remember that one trail, I told you, I'm like, man, I don't know if we should go

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down there.

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Like there's a mud hole down there that is just fucking terrible.

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And it wasn't nothing today.

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But this trip.

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Yeah, where I got stuck, I saw everyone drove through.

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I guess we could have done that one.

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But yeah, yeah, I know.

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I've seen other people drive through it, too.

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And I commented that on Mark.

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I was like, man, we could have went through that.

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No problem.

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What the fuck?

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So well, we learned we learned it.

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And like I said, we won't spoil anymore from the poker run because we'll have a we'll have.

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Well, I guess we can spoil it.

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But but we won't.

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Because we all got it.

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Yeah.

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But but we won't because this is still a 30 minute soda.

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And and I guess now that we got past Alex's shock reveal, which is going to be really

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good shocker, it's going to be really good.

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Mark, we're going to move back to you again.

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Did you get any Christmas presents for your baby silverback?

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I call it a silver side.

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But I know I think silverback is just going to be my nickname for.

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Yeah, I do.

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Maybe about silverback or raise it back for a while.

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And I call it silver side, like submarine.

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If you do.

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Oh, dude.

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OK, so do a delete on any of your four by four stuff on it and do Navy style lettering

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on the side.

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Like, what is it?

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USS.

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Yeah.

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Four by four.

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And then rivet that on that would look so cool.

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No, painted on like the native.

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Ain't it?

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Yeah.

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Then you have to have one of those those pinup girls on the back.

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Hell, dude, I mean, that would look cool as fuck.

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Oh, and in the front, you got to have that mean fucking what about torpedo fucking?

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No, what is it?

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No, no, he's not like that.

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That's Air Force.

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That's Air Force, buddy.

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Yeah, I don't care.

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I mean, I'm thinking that I just I'm thinking more.

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I just thought it was cool.

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I just think with all the where he is going with this and you can do a periscope.

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Oh my God.

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It could be a functional periscope so we can see up and above the trees.

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Yeah, that's in front of me.

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I can't see over this with a mesh tastic note on the top.

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So if we need the distance, we just the periscopes just going to be like an antenna with a 360

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camera that he can look at from the inside of his truck and go, OK, I can see what's

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coming up in front of me.

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I can see all the obstacles around me.

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Oh, that would be funny.

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But did you get anything for I mean, I guess you want to call it.

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I got it.

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Bicolor headlights.

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Oh, yeah.

280
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Yep.

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Dude, those things are sick.

282
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I I'm really excited for those.

283
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Mark shared a link for me.

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I want to switch to projectors someday and he shared what his do.

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Man, that's pretty cool.

286
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Yeah.

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You can talk about what she's getting this week.

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Yeah, I was hearing there.

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I was getting there.

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Yeah.

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So instance of poker run, I will not disclose until then, but I have finally got around

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to it.

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I am putting on apex deflators onto my rims and tires.

294
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Oh, are you doing the screw ons or are you going to have them put on what Alex has?

295
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Same thing.

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The real one.

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I was I was looking I was looking at the screw on once and I'm like, you know, I could just

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screw them on and take them off and it'd still be faster than doing the regular deflators.

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And I'm like because we were looking at him while I was waiting for my Christmas upgrades.

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So I was like, huh, interesting, interesting.

301
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So that's very exciting, though.

302
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Those deflators are deflators are really nice.

303
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Maybe maybe we a new compressor soon.

304
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Yeah.

305
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That is in the works is definitely in the works.

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Yeah, for the incident.

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Because now my compressor is broken.

308
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Oh, that too.

309
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Again.

310
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I so.

311
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By the way, how are you going to get my truck over there?

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I'm going to take the W11 and put the shop compressor in the bucket and I'm going to

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air it up to 150 psi and then I'm going to drive the W11 with the shop bucket to your

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truck and then I'm going to air up as many tires as I can and then plug it in again.

315
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Where?

316
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What's going on?

317
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I have two of my wheels are constantly leaking.

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They're flat.

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They're like there's nothing holding air.

320
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Oh, from the DB.

321
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Right.

322
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Oh, no, not just that.

323
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Not just from that, but off-roading in general.

324
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My tires have been went through hell this last week.

325
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So he's got two tires that have dirt in the bead and are leaking air.

326
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Yeah.

327
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And it's at my house with two flat tires and the air compressor on the forerunner is broken.

328
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When do you need it?

329
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I don't need it yet, but it needs to get to the shop to get everything installed.

330
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Oh, yeah.

331
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I'm going to call Gavin and have him come by and air it up.

332
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I was going to say I could legitimately do that, especially if it's this weekend because

333
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I have this weekend off.

334
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Well, I'm hoping to well know tomorrow when I can make an appointment, but I'm hoping

335
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either Wednesday or Thursday.

336
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Yeah.

337
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The.

338
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Yeah.

339
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See, I mean, Mark, we were talking about this earlier about guy math because because you

340
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were like, well, my tires are debeding a lot.

341
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You know, I should probably get those fixed.

342
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Well, while they're there, I should do these inflators at the same time.

343
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,640
Yeah, this guy math, you know, and then and then what else?

344
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You got anything that you got the headlights, you got the fighters, maybe an air compressor

345
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in the very near future.

346
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Very near future.

347
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I also really need to get to my rear brakes.

348
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But.

349
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Gosh, yeah, I know.

350
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That's like you have front one.

351
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So why do you need rear ones?

352
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I get that.

353
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I've been going this long without them.

354
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Do I really need them?

355
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,880
I understand.

356
00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,320
I did that with my two.

357
00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,520
Your pedal goes to the floor and then your rear end keeps pushing the front end across

358
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the.

359
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Yeah, you need to do them.

360
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,440
I do.

361
00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,440
Yeah, but the lights are really cool, though.

362
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,080
I do feel the need.

363
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I lighting actually lighting is pretty important.

364
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I will say that.

365
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,040
Oh, yeah.

366
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I don't remember.

367
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It's been bugging me for a while.

368
00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,480
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that, but the other night, Alex, like, are

369
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your headlights doing anything for brightness?

370
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,480
I'm like, you know what?

371
00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,480
I think it's gotten dimmer.

372
00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,480
Like ever since I bought this truck, it's just been worse and worse.

373
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And one night like, all right, I need your headlights.

374
00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,760
Does that look conclusion to your upgrades this year so far?

375
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,760
So far, yes.

376
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,760
We got stuff for talks.

377
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:13,760
Me and Alex have talked about something, but I don't want to put anything out there about

378
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,760
that one.

379
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,760
Oh, yeah.

380
00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,760
You know what?

381
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,760
Keep that quiet.

382
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,760
When you put things out, it tends to jinx things.

383
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,760
I tell you.

384
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,760
Yeah, right.

385
00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,280
So I will move on to mine because this will tie in a little bit.

386
00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,000
But I mentioned lighting.

387
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,760
I added some lights.

388
00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,240
Sienna was nice enough to get me one of the things that I asked for for Christmas.

389
00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:41,360
And she got me a switch, like an off-brand aux beam switch panel.

390
00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:48,280
And I got that installed, got some ditch lights that she got me installed.

391
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,360
And holy shit.

392
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:56,360
You don't realize how much ditch lights actually make your life better at night.

393
00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:57,360
Like when you're out on the trail.

394
00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:58,360
But holy shit.

395
00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,080
It's like, oh my God, I could see everything around me now.

396
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,080
It's nice.

397
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,280
Dude, I'm scared to hear off real well.

398
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,280
Yeah.

399
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,840
I have a hard time just driving on normal roads without my ditch lights.

400
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,760
Oh, it's it's crazy.

401
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:16,000
And it's one of those things that before, you know, I didn't really notice.

402
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,020
But then when I turn them on, it's like, holy shit.

403
00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:21,960
It's like, it's almost like someone taking the blinders off of your vision.

404
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,960
Yeah.

405
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,720
And then you're being able to see your peripheral.

406
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,160
If I drive someone's car that doesn't have ditch lights just on a normal road, I feel

407
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,960
like I can't see anything.

408
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,960
Yeah.

409
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,960
Yeah.

410
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,600
It made me it almost gives me it almost makes me nervous now to drive without.

411
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,600
Yeah.

412
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,600
It's crazy.

413
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,600
Have I don't know how I made it this far in life without them.

414
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,320
Yeah, no, it's it's really cool.

415
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:54,360
So I and I'm really, I'm really, really stoked about this panel because it's made wiring

416
00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:58,720
lighting in so easy for so easy.

417
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,040
Like now I just need to run the wires straight to the panel now.

418
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,480
I don't have to run them back to a switch back to blah, blah, blah.

419
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,000
Just straight to the panel, pick a button and push it.

420
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000
And that's it.

421
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,960
And it's so nice because I have a light bar that I've had just sitting in my room that

422
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,680
I just didn't feel like wiring up that I'm going to wire up soon.

423
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:30,200
I just bought some lights from Joe Gladiator Joe, if anybody's from MST is listening, just

424
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,200
bought the pod.

425
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,400
Gladiator on Instagram, yeah, 40 gladiator on Instagram, but Gladiator Joe during the

426
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840
MST event, we bought them from him.

427
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,400
And so those are LED pods.

428
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,440
So I'll have those and the LED light bar that I'm going to hook up here soon once I find

429
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,920
a warm time or spot to do it.

430
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,880
What pods did you buy from him?

431
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,880
What brand are they?

432
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,840
Ah, they're I think the last fit pro.

433
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,840
That's what I thought.

434
00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,840
Yeah.

435
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:00,840
Yeah.

436
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,080
I'm not up to everything, but you know, Joe's good for it.

437
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,080
I didn't really need to.

438
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,080
Oh yeah.

439
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,080
He wouldn't sell you junk.

440
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,080
Right.

441
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,440
So which I've learned again here soon.

442
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:16,280
I'll talk about but so I yeah, so I got the aux beam like their triangle pods for ditch

443
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480
lights and those work pretty well.

444
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:26,440
And it'll be really nice because now I can flash people when they flash me and we see

445
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,080
the sun this time.

446
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,600
So I've been doing a couple of times like you really don't want to your brights off.

447
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,120
Don't fuck with me.

448
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:36,520
Do that.

449
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,880
I do it to people when because I'll you know, just driving.

450
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,360
They always think my lights are bright.

451
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,080
So I get flashed all the time.

452
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,080
Yeah.

453
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,800
So I I started whenever someone does that, they then turn their brights on.

454
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,200
I turn my light bar on.

455
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,720
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.

456
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,960
I want to be able to just put it on.

457
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,960
Yep.

458
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,960
You want to see the sun?

459
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,960
Fine.

460
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:04,120
So yeah, but you know, my headlights are something that I'm trying to upgrade soon.

461
00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:11,840
I talked with Mark and Alex about this a little bit and I'm probably going to move to projectors

462
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:18,280
and we found a pretty cheap kit on Amazon that's doable that if my wife loves me enough

463
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,280
that she'll let me get and and we'll make that move.

464
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:32,160
Yeah, then then my other Christmas gift, which I guess she turned into a birthday gift instead

465
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:40,840
was after our poker run, my my one driver's side tire after I took the picture of it leaking

466
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,640
and send it to the guys, I actually saw that there were actual rocks and mud in between

467
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,400
the bead and the rim and I could see them in there.

468
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,000
I couldn't dig them out.

469
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000
So I like I was like, yeah, I'm going to have to get them replaced anyway.

470
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,120
And I was talking about that.

471
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:59,200
Then talking about maybe getting new tires at some point.

472
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,160
And then of course, gladiator Joe comes in with like, hey, man, I got a deal that you

473
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,960
just can't refuse.

474
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:15,840
And then he he lets me know he's got like five brand new 285 70 17s Falcon Wild Beaks

475
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040
for sale.

476
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,280
And he'll take like, I think he likes 800 for him.

477
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,000
And I'm like, fuck, I'll go and look up the price of them.

478
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,200
And they're like $300 a piece.

479
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,560
And for five of them, it's almost like $1,600.

480
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,480
And I'm like, I'd be stupid not to screen shot it all of it, send it to Sienna.

481
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,480
And I start like really breaking down the math of it for I'm like, it's only gonna be

482
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,120
like this much for this and this much for that.

483
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:47,600
And if I if I have to have the shop take my tires off anyway, I might as well have them

484
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,360
switch over and you know, you would make sense.

485
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:51,360
Only one thing.

486
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:57,840
This is exactly why it ties into the guy math thing that we're me and my mark we're talking

487
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,840
about.

488
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,960
Yeah, cuz I was like, well, they only have to take one off.

489
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,400
But if I'm gonna take one off, I should take them all off.

490
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:11,160
And so so after that conversation with him, and I'm like, man, it's just too good of a

491
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,160
deal.

492
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,240
And Sienna's like, Well, you know, it would be a birthday present.

493
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,920
I was like, you know what?

494
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,360
I'll get you know, I've been wanting to move up to 285.

495
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:25,000
For a long time, and I keep talking about it and not doing nothing.

496
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,160
And this is just such a good deal.

497
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,520
Yeah, such a good deal.

498
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:35,320
And so I went up and and he worked with me to try to get them I have to bring him the

499
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,960
actual wheel back.

500
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,360
Because he gave he gave me all of them even the one with the wheel on it.

501
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:46,800
Because I had to I had to get it all done by Saturday.

502
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:54,320
So I left was like Saturday morning, picked all the tires up from Cooper's Hudsonville.

503
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,300
And then ran all the way straight to never enough.

504
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:01,080
And then straight to never enough.

505
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,200
In Sienna's car.

506
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,720
And while we switch cars, I drove the FJ she drove the car.

507
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,480
And we backed up to never enough dropped the tires out.

508
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,280
Then we had to switch it.

509
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,280
And oh, okay.

510
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,640
Well, there's a there's mud on your tires.

511
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,880
Can you take it to the car wash across the street and wash them out?

512
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,080
I'm like, I thought I fucking already did.

513
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,520
So I do it to try to do it again.

514
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,080
And then apparently I didn't get all of it.

515
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,400
I'm like, you know what, I'm not laying on the fucking ground.

516
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,360
Like just scrape it out.

517
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,920
Charge me the extra or whatever.

518
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,680
So they scraped it out.

519
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:40,160
And then they're like, Oh, well, you know, by the way, your spare tire, fucking my spare

520
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,360
tire, the new tires are so big that they were hitting my bumper.

521
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:52,360
Because if when mounted just normally, so they had to find a spacer and they found like

522
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,120
a Chevy spacer that fit.

523
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,240
They're like, well, it's like $40 for the spacer.

524
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,960
And I look at Sam, I'm like, well, we're already in the hole.

525
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,800
And I'm like, they're like, or we could put it back in your car.

526
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,360
And I'm like, well, I mean, what the fuck if I if I don't do this now, like I'm going

527
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,600
to wait, wait, wait, and then I won't have a spare tire.

528
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,520
So I'm like, just just do it now.

529
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,120
And so they put this Chevy spacer on there.

530
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,720
Then they're like, well, one of your threads is fucked up in the back.

531
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,960
And I'm like, well, you know what?

532
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,040
I'm like, I don't fucking know.

533
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,920
Like at this point, like it's getting to 12 and I got to go to work soon.

534
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,920
And I'm like, I don't know.

535
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,480
I'm just like, just fix it.

536
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,560
And so it ended up being a little bit more than we thought.

537
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,760
But we got all wheels on the spacers on the back and I got my other wheel on.

538
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,840
They're like, hey, you know, you might not want to do this long term.

539
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:46,480
And I'm already like, like it's all three hundred dollars for the fucking for the kit

540
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,320
to relocate it.

541
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,920
So I'm like, yeah, it's going to be there for a little bit.

542
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,440
So low on my list.

543
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,840
So so yeah, I mean, what's the worst that the spacer would do?

544
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,840
Bend your door?

545
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,840
Oh, yeah.

546
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,840
Yeah.

547
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,400
I could definitely hear it.

548
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280
I could hear the back door area.

549
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,640
Just rare when I hit bumps now.

550
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,640
Oh, God.

551
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,040
Yeah, I could hear that a little bit.

552
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Yeah.

553
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,160
Just you welded.

554
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,400
I just I will say that the wild peaks are really, really good looking on there.

555
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,400
Oh, yeah.

556
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600
They look a lot more aggressive.

557
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,160
The first I took it to a trail that night.

558
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:31,040
And as I was telling Mark earlier, they ride so much harder than I was expecting.

559
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,040
You know, they're down.

560
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,640
No, not at first.

561
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,920
I didn't.

562
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,120
At first I didn't and I was like, fuck, these things are hard.

563
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,160
Like I'm feeling this.

564
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,920
And you know, they're a different load range, too.

565
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,640
So they're a little harder to puncture, I guess.

566
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,440
But are they low rangey?

567
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:55,560
The one up I forget whatever the I think they are anyway, that are they're just really thick.

568
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,800
They're just that or they're just more of a thicker tire than what I'm used to as far

569
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160
as my alterings ago.

570
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,520
And so at first I was like, man, these are really hard.

571
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080
I tried doing an obstacle.

572
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:15,840
If you're heading to Prairie and you take that low, why like if the and it goes down

573
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,480
that hill to where the there's like a little trail.

574
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,040
You remember when I took you guys up there and I climbed up that little fucking hill

575
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,120
and up and down?

576
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,120
Yeah.

577
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:29,920
And while I tried doing that one and I walked up that last time and I tried doing it again

578
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,960
and just dug fucking ruts like like it was just struggling and let's get up there.

579
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,880
And I'm like, what the fuck?

580
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,480
So I kind of got irritated about that.

581
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,280
I'm like, man, what these fucking tires suck.

582
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200
I just dug holes because they're so meaty.

583
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,560
And so I backed up, put it back at low and then crawled through it, aired down.

584
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,480
And when I aired down, I aired down to like 20 psi.

585
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,360
And then I'm like, ah, that's better.

586
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:02,640
And yeah, I because I run load range ease and I drive around on 40 psi.

587
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,040
But if I go on a trail at 40 psi, one, I'm going to get the shit beat out of me.

588
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,200
And two, it does not do very well.

589
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,480
It just digs holes.

590
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,480
Yeah.

591
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,000
OK, so maybe that's what it was.

592
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:22,400
And so so now I'm like, fuck, maybe I should just drive on 20 psi all the time and or 20.

593
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,400
I think it was like 20 for 23, something like that.

594
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,220
And it's not I mean, so I'm just driving around there and everything is better.

595
00:28:31,220 --> 00:28:33,000
My ride was better, smoother.

596
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520
I get on the road, my ride's better, smoother on the road.

597
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,680
And I'm like, damn.

598
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,480
But also you get when you air down, you get that little bit of shift when you drive where

599
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,440
your tires aren't completely aired up.

600
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680
You can feel a shift when you're steering and stuff.

601
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,920
And I still feel the shift.

602
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,920
And that bothered me.

603
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:59,800
So I don't think that I would run them below 30, like 33, 34.

604
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200
That's what they're set at.

605
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,200
Yeah.

606
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Yeah, that's where I would keep them on the road.

607
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,160
That's what that's what my psi was set at from never never enough.

608
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,520
So yeah, when I when I went to check there, I like 34, 35 when they were full.

609
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800
And then when I heard him down, I just heard him at 20.

610
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,320
I'd be interested to see how low I could go with those.

611
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:30,400
But I could tell you, like, comparatively to my old ones, the going down even 20 was

612
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,480
a major difference, like you could barely tell.

613
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,360
And that's why I think I went up a load range from the old ones, because you remember I

614
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,040
was I talked to you, I think about it.

615
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,760
When you're aired down, it doesn't even look like you're aired down.

616
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,040
And when I aired down, it was like, fucking like, yep, that's overflowing.

617
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,520
RNG over yeah, overflowing fucking muffin over the top is what it looked like to me.

618
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,480
Like, it's like, and now I think I'm I'm there too.

619
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,440
So yeah, because mine you Yeah, when I air down, if I'm on semi level ground, you can't

620
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,440
tell.

621
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,120
Yeah, yeah, it was a little harder to tell if even with 20.

622
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:18,080
But I would go about 10 on sand and then like 15 on just regular obstacles.

623
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Like just like poker run type stuff.

624
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,440
And so I'm interested to bring it down to like 14 or 15 and see what they do.

625
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Yeah, because I usually on trails, usually I'm about 15.

626
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,880
Yeah.

627
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,920
I'll go down to 10 if it's a really sandy trail like Croton to White Cloud, I will sit

628
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,040
around 10 for that trail.

629
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Anything anything around the Croton area that whole little section there always 10 because

630
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,800
it's so sandy.

631
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,440
Yeah, just because you don't want to dig or what?

632
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:56,040
Well, one at 10, I have like, no, I basically absorb all the bumps.

633
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,680
So I don't really notice them.

634
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,960
And then also, it doesn't dig as much.

635
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,960
Okay.

636
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,160
I was just wondering as far as because now mine are a little bit closer to what yours

637
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560
are treadwise tread depth wise.

638
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Yeah.

639
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,560
That's why I was curious.

640
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,880
You're probably you're not quite as deep as mine.

641
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,880
You're quite okay.

642
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,440
You're not as deep as mine.

643
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,200
But maybe like, maybe like half as deep.

644
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Wait, maybe this is meant for grabbing mud.

645
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,400
So is mine?

646
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Yeah, those mud trains are really deep.

647
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,080
No, I mine are pretty deep for what I'm used to.

648
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,160
But I don't know, man, they look good.

649
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,860
They seem to handle really well so far on stone stuff.

650
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:39,920
So I'm excited to try them out.

651
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,160
I'd like to go out this weekend, but we'll see.

652
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,720
I don't know where to go anymore.

653
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,880
I think I'm done wheeling for a little while.

654
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880
I got to get some maintenance stuff.

655
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,900
I was going to ask if you want to do, I think it was Joe and Derek's birthday run at Rocksome

656
00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:57,900
Valley's again.

657
00:31:57,900 --> 00:31:58,900
Yeah, I can't.

658
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,600
Oh, I also found a new frame hole.

659
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120
So that's got to happen in the next couple of weeks.

660
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,160
I forgot about that.

661
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,720
So I was joking around with MST earlier and they're like, you're definitely part of the

662
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,000
botches crew, I'm like, ah, like 60, 40 or 40.

663
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000
I'm like, I'm 50, 50 in and out.

664
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,280
And they're like, look, no, you're definitely in there.

665
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,440
And I was like, well, you can't just lump me into those guys because I do a podcast with

666
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,040
them and I live close proximity.

667
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520
They're like, no, that's exactly why we could.

668
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:39,320
But I only say that because I wheel with you guys probably 30% of the time I wheel.

669
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,460
And that's because there's either like we're all working or schedules don't align or there's

670
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:46,360
someone with a break.

671
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,360
Yeah.

672
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Like a third gen.

673
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,040
I went so long with ignoring breaks that now that they're popping up, it's like, fuck man,

674
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,040
it's broken.

675
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Yeah.

676
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,040
Yeah.

677
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,400
Why did I ignore us?

678
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:07,600
So while I am an active botches member, I am also probably I almost equally active MST.

679
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,360
I think if they were to start a podcast, I would love to cohost a podcast.

680
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,680
So the thing is the MST isn't a club or anything like we're a club.

681
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,320
We're sure we're an actual actual group.

682
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,320
Yeah.

683
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:26,580
So the way we look at it, MST is a place for individuals and groups to get together to

684
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:28,080
make trips.

685
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Yeah.

686
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,740
But they're not a group.

687
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:33,360
Are they an awesome tool for the community?

688
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Yes.

689
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,360
100%.

690
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,920
See, I kind of see them as a, as almost a group at this point because I don't see it.

691
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Yeah.

692
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,920
I mean, I see them.

693
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:50,200
I would say for me, the way that I treat them and look at them as a group, I would say this

694
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:56,320
is a club because it has a certain amount of members because we do what we do because

695
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520
we, you know, come and hang out, do this stuff.

696
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,320
But like the general MST chat that you know, the one that you're in.

697
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Yeah.

698
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600
I would say it's more like a fan club.

699
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,580
And then there's a core MST.

700
00:34:10,580 --> 00:34:13,760
There's a core MST group that does a lot more stuff.

701
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Just them, that little group, I would consider a club.

702
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Yep.

703
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,560
They have their own separate chat and everything.

704
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Right.

705
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Yeah.

706
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,560
I mean, I don't know.

707
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:30,560
I don't know that I would say that that feels like a fan club, but it's weird, but it, cause

708
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,200
they're really not a club.

709
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,120
Like, well, I don't think they're a club.

710
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,720
I think they're a group.

711
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:36,720
Okay.

712
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:37,720
Okay.

713
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:38,720
Yeah.

714
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:39,720
So like, like, you're a club.

715
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:44,160
No, like, like they have like the Jeep, like the Jeep clubs and stuff like that.

716
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,280
They have their own little, or like motorcycle clubs, you know, with their own little patch

717
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,280
and stuff.

718
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,280
That's how I think of botches.

719
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,540
It's a club.

720
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:57,760
I don't think of it as a group that we like, I don't think of it as a group that we lead,

721
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,580
like other groups or we do like massive trail rides or we do, you know, any of the other

722
00:35:03,580 --> 00:35:05,040
stuff that MST does.

723
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,040
Wow.

724
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,960
I really do, but not very often, not this year because of, well, yeah, I was going to

725
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,800
say because of that stuff that I mentioned previously, but also mostly the biggest thing

726
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:24,280
time, but yeah, cause we, last year we were the only other than Derek and you know, the

727
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,440
core members, we were the only people doing rides that, you know, we're the only one leading

728
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,040
rides and stuff.

729
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,160
Yeah.

730
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,160
So I don't know.

731
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,520
That's like for me, I see a handful.

732
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,760
I can think of actually main events or was leading.

733
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,760
Yeah.

734
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,760
Yeah.

735
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Well, to me it's like, I think if as much as I was active in it, like I would see myself

736
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,360
as like, I would say some kind of percentage in and out of that.

737
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,720
And I would love for that to become something else too.

738
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:05,560
I think, I think MST has a lot of potential that has yet to earn or to hit, you know,

739
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,920
I think MST would be a cool podcast place too.

740
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,080
And it's come, it would be the same, but different.

741
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,760
It's almost like hitting it's like, it's like Walmart and Meyers, like they hit a different

742
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,720
target that, you know, they, they would be able to talk a lot more user friendly overlanding,

743
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,800
I think more than it was the more targeted off-roading.

744
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:32,200
I don't think they ever would get to that point because of who, sorry, Derek, who the

745
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,800
leader is.

746
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,800
If you pay attention to like, you know, they kind of do their live stream thing and that's

747
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,360
more of the style that Derek would end up with all the time of just, I think they just

748
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,360
chaos.

749
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,360
I, yeah.

750
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,560
I think they just need someone who would be like, Hey, I'll pilot this.

751
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,920
I'll, I mean, I tried.

752
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,040
Right.

753
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,400
But I think that's what they need is like, one, like an admin or something to go, you

754
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,960
know, I, I'm going to start doing this.

755
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,320
Let me know if you guys want to come in and just do it like once a week or, you know,

756
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,880
I think, uh, Jeep, Derek, he made the comment.

757
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,560
They're not as big of fans as the podcast style because they like the, they're big things,

758
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,800
the community involvement or the community, you know, can talk back as they're doing it,

759
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,640
which there's a way to do that podcasting.

760
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960
And I've tried to explain that, but yeah.

761
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,880
And it's, you want to do it easy and stuff.

762
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,200
I get, like, I get it from their point of view too.

763
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,240
I think just podcasting.

764
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,240
Yeah.

765
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:34,280
And I think that podcasting has a way to get out there and then, you know, they send in

766
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,320
questions and then you read them on the next podcast and it's, it's just fuel for the next

767
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,320
fire.

768
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,320
Well, yeah.

769
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,720
Live streaming is cool too.

770
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:47,720
Because the cool thing with like a podcasting 2.0 is we have the ability to just put a live

771
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,680
podcast out and it'll show up right in the podcast app.

772
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Oh yeah.

773
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Yeah.

774
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,200
And so, I mean, like, I feel like there's room to grow there, especially with like the

775
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,520
group, the events that they put on.

776
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Like I would say that the poker run event was super cool and it could definitely have

777
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,000
some improvements, but for the first annual one, it was like, this is really cool.

778
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,400
I've never done anything like this.

779
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:21,760
And I feel like the poker run was a step up on their event content, if that makes sense,

780
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,040
because before, you know, they lead group rides, which are fine, but this was the first

781
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,320
time that I feel like Derek reached out and did something different and I really enjoyed

782
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,320
it.

783
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,320
Yeah.

784
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:42,240
I think, I think MST appeals to, I think almost a different group than what I think the botches

785
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,680
originally would, you know what I mean?

786
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,800
I think MST is, and I don't mean this in a weird or bad way or anything, but it's more

787
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:59,880
of a, a beginner's group as far as, you know, doing the overlanding, camping and trails,

788
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:08,040
whereas botches has a little bit more specifically into the off-roading and the challenge aspect

789
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040
to it.

790
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,600
Is that safe to say?

791
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,600
And we're picky.

792
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Yeah.

793
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,600
We're not just going to accept anyone.

794
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,600
I know that too.

795
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,600
Well, right.

796
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,000
But that, I think that's one of the reasons why I'm kind of half and half is because I

797
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,680
do like a little bit of what we do for the botches, you know, as far as the trails and

798
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,680
stuff obviously.

799
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Yeah.

800
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:37,880
But I'm very much interested and would love to do something with the newbie overland and

801
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:44,240
just the general large population of like the overlaying community.

802
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:49,480
And I just think it would be really cool as far as, you know, just engaging with different

803
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,880
gear talks and different types of tours and stuff like that, that they do.

804
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,520
It would have been, it'd be cool content.

805
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,240
I think it could very easily be cool content.

806
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:08,220
I, like I said, I tried to get the Derrick's cause it's cheap Derrick and, uh, Lexus Derrick,

807
00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:10,160
but I tried talking to them about it a little bit.

808
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,400
Cause I think that a podcast makes a lot of sense for them.

809
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,400
Yeah.

810
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Um, I just, I think that their personalities don't really fall into the, want to sit here

811
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,280
and talk about shit for an hour without being interrupted.

812
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,280
Right.

813
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,280
Yeah.

814
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,280
I suppose.

815
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,480
I, uh, I think that there, I think there's definitely something there for it, but I just,

816
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:39,480
like I said, I think they need to have the right push for it and to actually, and to

817
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,920
actually want to do it more than just a hobby too, cause at that point, at that point you're

818
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,760
doing it for more than just a hobby.

819
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,760
Yeah.

820
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaking of other things that are changing, I talked to Cindy Pope last night about possibly

821
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,360
putting Northology on RSS so that it just auto downloads rather than having to download

822
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
it from your email.

823
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:08,640
You should have Cindy Pope talk to us about having Northology on the podcast as far as,

824
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,320
um, a sponsor.

825
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,600
You know, I, maybe we got another one of those little sponsor things that we're kind of working

826
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,600
out.

827
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,440
Um, wouldn't that be so cool to have Northology as on there?

828
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,440
That would be really cool.

829
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,800
That would be really cool is if the listeners would just boost in so we don't have to look

830
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,800
for sponsors.

831
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,120
So we don't become, we don't have like four minutes of commercials.

832
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Honestly, I would, I would really enjoy actually going into one of Cindy Pope's, um, articles

833
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:51,480
and just reading an article from one of her overlanding, um, like specifically in overlanding.

834
00:41:51,480 --> 00:42:01,760
Oh, that would actually be a really cool, like commercial per se is not so much a commercial,

835
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,760
but just every episode have a segment where we read something or not every episode, right?

836
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,800
Like once a month we read one of the articles from that month's magazine.

837
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,800
Oh yeah.

838
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,840
Anyone listening, anyone listening, look up Northology.

839
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Cindy Pope does some amazing things.

840
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:23,440
I know we've had her on here before, but her, her online magazine is the bee's knees.

841
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,160
I read it every month after downloading it and putting it on my e-reader cause I'm a

842
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,880
weirdo.

843
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,800
But yeah, I think, I think adding that on there and then I think doing just like a,

844
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,080
you know, if she has a section on overlanding the Q and offer an instance, we read the section

845
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,840
out loud and then we talk about it that specifically about overlanding.

846
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Last month.

847
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:53,280
Yeah, this last month she had an article about like the top five adventure destinations in

848
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,700
the Midwest.

849
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,640
That was a really fun read.

850
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Yeah.

851
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,920
So the stuff like that we could do.

852
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,320
And I think that would be really interesting that add some, add some spark to our podcast

853
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,320
a little bit.

854
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,320
You know what I mean?

855
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,320
Yeah.

856
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Give someone a little bit something else and maybe I also listen.

857
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,520
I want to start doing at the end of every episode, which we'll start this.

858
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Okay.

859
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,200
You'll have already heard one.

860
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,200
Yeah.

861
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,320
We'll start it on the episode that comes out before this one.

862
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,280
I want to start doing the radio chatter cards.

863
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,480
I think that would be really cool.

864
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,080
Yeah I need to do that.

865
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,000
I don't even know what these are.

866
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,000
So radio chatter.

867
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Oh yes I do.

868
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:45,120
Yeah, it's a game where you, you know, it's a conversation style game where I read a card

869
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,120
and then you answer the card.

870
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,800
Yeah.

871
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,920
I think that would be a really fun one to do like radio chatter Monday or radio chatter

872
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Sunday or, you know, like.

873
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:03,880
Maybe we do one, like a 30 minute radio chatter every other week or so.

874
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,400
I think just having one card at the end of every episode would work really well.

875
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,400
We have the extended deck for the NSFW stuff too.

876
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,400
So that's fun.

877
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,400
Okay.

878
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,400
We could do, we could do like a radio chatter for one hours.

879
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Yeah.

880
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,760
I just, yeah.

881
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Not for these half hour ones.

882
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Definitely not.

883
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,160
But like the one hour.

884
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,160
This is much longer.

885
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Conversations going so well, we may as well go for an hour.

886
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Cool.

887
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,480
You're getting extra content on Sunday.

888
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:39,560
But yeah, I, I really think that radio chatter, you know, it's a tool that's there for us

889
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,360
and it's a really fun tool.

890
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:48,160
So that'd be another person to talk to about sponsors, I guess.

891
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Chatter radios.

892
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Radio chatter.

893
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Yeah.

894
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,600
That one.

895
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Yeah.

896
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Sounds like my son's being a beluga whale in the background.

897
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
I hope you heard that.

898
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,600
So I'll hear that.

899
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Sorry for the cough.

900
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,600
No.

901
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,600
Uh, you know, my son, which brings back, I have to talk about this for a second.

902
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,160
He's done so well with this over landing off road stuff.

903
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,520
It's been great.

904
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,960
He's been basically, and this sounds really bad, but he's been basically raised in the

905
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
car seat while we've been doing this.

906
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,400
And that sounds horrible, but, um, it's not as bad as it sounds.

907
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,640
He's, he's while we're on the trails and we're taking real slow trails that are very safe,

908
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,640
everybody.

909
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,960
So just cut the bull crap.

910
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,440
No, you don't do it.

911
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Uh, DNR he's saying a hypothetical.

912
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,840
No, I am the same.

913
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,040
My, my, my kid has a ball.

914
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,040
He's unstrapped.

915
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,360
He's, he's just hanging around in the car.

916
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Like we just pretend like it's the seventies and he just crawls all over the place.

917
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,880
No, no, he actually, yeah.

918
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:03,880
And this, this last time, this was the first time and ever that he stayed in his seat the

919
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,360
entire time just to watch.

920
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,520
And this was the coolest watching him because we'd get out.

921
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,200
Like when we got stuck, we were, he's out, he's out watching us.

922
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,880
He's just leaning over the side of the seat.

923
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,880
Like,

924
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Did Sienna get a picture of that?

925
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Yeah.

926
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,600
Yeah.

927
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Yeah.

928
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Okay.

929
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Good.

930
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,600
I, you should send that to me.

931
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,600
So when I do chapter, I, or maybe I'll even use that for the episode.

932
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Well, she got, she got the picture of him up in the front seat while I was out grabbing

933
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,040
her radio.

934
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,240
Oh no, he was grabbing the radio.

935
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,680
He was trying to talk to you guys.

936
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,600
And so he, he just, he's done so well.

937
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,600
He did so well.

938
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,160
He slept for a good part of it.

939
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,840
And then when he did get up, he was just all about it.

940
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,520
I tell you what, man, there's, it's a, it's a great feeling to see it.

941
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:59,320
Um, and then, you know, the other day he, he actually got into his car seat in the house,

942
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,880
got into it, stood in it and did the sign for more.

943
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,720
Like you wanted to go on more rides.

944
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:09,000
Like, like, like if you didn't look at him and you didn't know what he was about, you'd

945
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,280
be like, what are you talking about?

946
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,400
But the fact that he got in his car seat, which we only put them at if we go on rides

947
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,040
and went more, I was like, dude, you want to go on board trails?

948
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,760
I'm like, yeah, I can't tell you, no.

949
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,920
And, uh, so I was, that's, it's just really cool.

950
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
It's really cool seeing them grow up there.

951
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,640
And I don't think I've ever seen that kid unhappy on a ride.

952
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,640
So no, no, no.

953
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,120
You know, he has his moments, obviously every kid does, but he's just been, he's just been

954
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,400
such a joy to watch grow up this year.

955
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,760
And, uh, you know, I have, we, we have like a fireplace in our living room and it's been

956
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,160
so cold these past couple, you know, days where we've actually took the cover off it

957
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:58,680
that we have there, uh, to keep him out because we were kind of scared of him going in it.

958
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,200
And he, he sees the fire now.

959
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,600
It's like he's at camp and he just stays away.

960
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,680
He just doesn't do anything with it.

961
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:10,960
Like he's seen, he's seen fire so much because of all of our camping this year that it does

962
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,960
nothing for him anymore.

963
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,600
He doesn't try to get into it.

964
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,560
He doesn't try to fuck with anything in there.

965
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,760
Like it's like, he's just like, Oh yeah, there's a fire.

966
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,720
And like walks away and I'm like, I looked at seeing it.

967
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,320
I'm like, Oh, what did we create?

968
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,120
This is so cool.

969
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Like our kid doesn't want to jump into the fire pit.

970
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:28,640
Like what are we doing?

971
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,640
This is awesome.

972
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,240
Like, so it's been really cool.

973
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:36,760
Yeah, I just kind of been thinking back about it since we started the new year.

974
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:42,320
And I guess I get my 30th birthday tomorrow and it's like, man, where have I, where's

975
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,560
all the time gone?

976
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,200
So that's, it's crazy.

977
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,560
I had to, I had to talk about that though, man.

978
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Yeah.

979
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,600
Dirty 30 old fucking man.

980
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,200
I really feel like it though, man.

981
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,800
I'm like definitely been looking back at my life a little bit lately.

982
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,960
And I've been like, I can give my shit together.

983
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,480
Not, not, not the conventional way.

984
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Like everybody else might think, but like, like, dude, if I really want to do this wheel

985
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,720
and shit and I, and I want to do what I enjoy doing so much, then I really need to find

986
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,960
a job that helps me do it more.

987
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,960
You know what I mean?

988
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,080
And not, and not restricts it.

989
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:29,280
So if anybody that listens to me that works with me is listening, don't tell, but I've

990
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,960
been looking for other options.

991
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,080
You always keep your eyes open.

992
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,760
Just I've been looking a little harder lately because, because my job prior had weekends

993
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,440
off which made it very possible.

994
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,480
It'll just take a hundred dollars and go on a ride and camp for a couple of days and come

995
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,480
back.

996
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,840
I mean, I, I recently had an interview with a certain, I'm not going to say the name

997
00:49:52,840 --> 00:50:01,440
cause I don't want to jinx it, but a certain mesh radio company that exists in the world

998
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,200
are looking for a new sales guy.

999
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,760
And I interviewed for it.

1000
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,920
That would be really cool because you definitely got to do it.

1001
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Wouldn't it be cool?

1002
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,920
Yeah.

1003
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,320
You're definitely the guy that would be do it.

1004
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,840
You'd also get drafted right as you got the job and be like, God damn it.

1005
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,960
I'm past that point.

1006
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,360
They can't just draft me out of the blue anymore.

1007
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,360
I've done my time.

1008
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,360
10 years, man.

1009
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,360
I did 10 years of that crap.

1010
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Yeah.

1011
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,640
They're like, Ooh, you're like just so much.

1012
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,760
We're going to have you come back and do a reunion tour.

1013
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,240
I mean, honestly, if they brought me back and brought back all my equipment that they

1014
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:42,680
have since replaced, I would be down cause I miss using it.

1015
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,680
Yeah.

1016
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,320
No, I, you know, it's just, you know, my wife's been complaining about her job too and how

1017
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,920
much she hates retail.

1018
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,480
I hate retail, man.

1019
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,960
It's I think I firmly believe that retail at the store level is not to be done your

1020
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,960
whole life.

1021
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Like it's not a life.

1022
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:00,960
It's not a life job.

1023
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,760
And it's so easy for me to get burnt out now.

1024
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,120
But you get to see me like once a week at least barely missed me the other day.

1025
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Yeah.

1026
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,720
I was there the other day and you were there, but I couldn't find you.

1027
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:18,760
It's probably crying in the bathroom.

1028
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,160
I don't miss working retail.

1029
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,720
No I, you know, I, I told my wife, I'm like, you know what?

1030
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:28,000
I just want to work like it or something, something in an office.

1031
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,480
I don't care that I don't work blue collar.

1032
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,640
You know what I mean?

1033
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,640
Like I feel like after you get to a certain age, that whole blue collar pride thing goes

1034
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,080
out the shitter because you start getting old and you're like once you work blue collar.

1035
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Yeah.

1036
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,080
Yeah.

1037
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Yeah.

1038
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,080
And then I want you are me.

1039
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,080
Right.

1040
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,760
But like once you work like a white collar job and then you're like, Ooh, it's like,

1041
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,880
it's like getting into Alexis after you, you've been driving a third gen for so long.

1042
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,840
And then being like, wow, I can have air conditioning.

1043
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,840
Wow.

1044
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,840
My shit doesn't break every time I do it.

1045
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:05,160
I worked a white collar job where I sat in an office all day every day for almost two

1046
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,600
years and I am so glad that I get to run a farm now.

1047
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,860
See that's for me.

1048
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:17,600
It's like I did a bunch of blue collar stuff because blue collar was like all entry level.

1049
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,760
It just treats you like dog shit and work the bone and like, and that was fine because

1050
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,640
I did it like, and it would, it required zero experience, but then I'm getting older and

1051
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:35,040
I'm kind of realizing like, Hey, you know, working my ass off and making, you know, less

1052
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:42,160
money than some of these other jobs where you could be sitting down or, or doing something

1053
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:49,120
less like, like, I hate to sound like a lazy fuck, but at the same time, it's like, I'm

1054
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,000
all about, if I have to go to work in the first place, why the fuck am I pushing myself

1055
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,760
so damn far to like overwork myself for less money than I was making while I was sitting

1056
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:05,480
in a chair and when I was typing in beta, when I was in white collar jobs, the reason

1057
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,440
I like farming so much better is the white collar job is all fucking politics.

1058
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,160
You have to do extra to keep your job.

1059
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,440
You have, I mean, it's, it was terrible.

1060
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,440
Yeah.

1061
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Yeah.

1062
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,720
I could see being in the, in certain white collar jobs that being like, like for, in

1063
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:28,920
like insurance salesmen or something as a salesman having that constant competition.

1064
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,920
But like where I, what I was doing at the time, which was like an analytical like lab

1065
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,920
tech.

1066
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,920
Yeah.

1067
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,920
That was so nice.

1068
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:42,320
I could clock in, I put my headphones on, I do all the lab stuff.

1069
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,000
You know, a lot of it's just like, Hey, we need you to test 300 of these samples.

1070
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Okay.

1071
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,200
Everybody leaves me alone.

1072
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:55,160
I put my headphones in a test, 300 samples, put them in a spreadsheet and leave, and then

1073
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,640
come back to the next stage, do it again.

1074
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,880
And it's like, I love that.

1075
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,880
I did inventory control and honestly, I love the job.

1076
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:08,880
I just hated the, uh, the, how do I put this?

1077
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,200
The atmosphere of the job, like the people I worked with were hot fucking garbage, dude.

1078
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Yeah.

1079
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,320
And we had this one woman who I not a hundred percent sure she was a woman, but you know,

1080
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,520
whatever, she was a woman and she would just get in my face and scream at me.

1081
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,120
And it finally got to a point where I snapped on her.

1082
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,120
Yeah.

1083
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,640
I don't know that I could ever do something where they're actually doing that.

1084
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,320
That kind of shit.

1085
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,320
Fuck no.

1086
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,320
Yeah.

1087
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,320
See, yeah.

1088
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,200
My white color, my white color job was nothing like that.

1089
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,800
It was like, Oh my God, thank you.

1090
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,800
So glad to see you.

1091
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,800
Like, what are you doing today?

1092
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,320
I'm like, this is what I'm doing today.

1093
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,400
And then like, Oh my God, this is great.

1094
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,400
Thanks.

1095
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,400
That was it.

1096
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,400
And mine was like a war.

1097
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,000
And that's, and I think that's the difference is you just have to find the right one.

1098
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:02,400
And I'm not convinced, but if I want to start, I don't know how investing in my future a

1099
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,480
little bit more as far as like what I want to do for the rest of my life.

1100
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:11,400
I feel like it would be like a really good middle ground if I could do some kind of,

1101
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,600
um, eventually get good enough to do like a remote it position.

1102
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,520
I can help you get certified for that.

1103
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,840
I have lots of those kinds of certs.

1104
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,840
Yeah.

1105
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:28,920
I mean, cause, cause at that point being able to do remote it work for other companies or

1106
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,760
anything like that, that would be really fricking nice that you could do something like that

1107
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,760
from the road.

1108
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,760
Yeah.

1109
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,320
You know, I'm thinking of it like long-term from, Hey, what can I, what jobs can I do

1110
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,800
that I could do anywhere?

1111
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,800
Right.

1112
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,080
It's kind of where I'm at.

1113
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,280
Cause I, because how I want to do it is I want to leave.

1114
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,200
I don't want to find, we just need the podcast to blow up so that we just have to do a podcast

1115
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,920
twice a week and that's it.

1116
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,600
I do one four times a week.

1117
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,600
If that's what it took.

1118
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,440
I would do one every single, every fucking day.

1119
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,840
If all I had to do was sit down and talk to you fucked for an hour every day.

1120
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,840
And that's been an hour.

1121
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:12,240
All we had to do is bullshit seven days a week.

1122
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,240
We do that already.

1123
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:14,240
We do that already.

1124
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,040
We just type it off into our chat.

1125
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,040
Fuck it.

1126
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,040
I'll bring it to life.

1127
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,040
No, we should, we should never release the bunches chat to the public.

1128
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,040
No, no.

1129
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:30,280
I, after, after we get caught and, uh, and the feds fuck us, the DNR fucks us or something.

1130
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,000
Maybe they'll release some conversations earlier.

1131
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,440
That is why that's why the botches chat is on an undisclosed platform that hasn't, it's

1132
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,920
very locked down.

1133
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:49,480
Yo, by the way, this is completely, um, off topic, but, uh, have you seen that Sean Ryan

1134
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:56,760
podcast with a green beret in reference to the, uh, the Tesla bomber who was also a green

1135
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,760
beret?

1136
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,320
No, but you should send that to me.

1137
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,240
Cause I will definitely throw it on my zoom and listen to it.

1138
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,240
Oh my God.

1139
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:09,160
First of all, Sean Ryan and the, I forget who she is.

1140
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:15,560
The blonde CSI or CSI, the, um, um, CIA operative or whatever.

1141
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,320
Intelligent operative.

1142
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:24,040
But the information that she has, oh my God, is fucking like eye opening crazy.

1143
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,680
And then this guy kind of the fact that she, what she knows.

1144
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,680
Yeah.

1145
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:35,920
And, but then when, so apparently this guy on Sean comes onto Sean Ryan and the green

1146
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,240
beret that did this Tesla bombing thing, yeah.

1147
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,600
Worked a sent this email to him on a, on proton.

1148
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,080
Yeah.

1149
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,080
You've heard of that, right?

1150
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,440
Oh, I know exactly what proton is.

1151
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,440
Yeah.

1152
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Which is what I have too.

1153
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,360
That's what my main email and, uh, send it to him on proton saying that there is a whole

1154
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:05,080
different story to what's actually going on there that he is actually working on some

1155
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:14,360
top secret, like, um, propulsion system stuff for the U S government and that, um, China

1156
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,280
has some kind of grip, gruv, vitic propulsion system that they've been working on, which

1157
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,940
is what we're seeing.

1158
00:58:20,940 --> 00:58:25,000
And they're launching them out of subs in the Atlantic ocean.

1159
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,320
And that's what we've been seeing lately and that the U S and China, like, um, both have

1160
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,880
grivetic systems that are, uh, so like, there's this long thing about that going on and like

1161
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,720
some work rhymes stuff that we're going into this letter.

1162
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:46,280
Um, he then tries to, you know, at the beginning of it, he identifies himself by, you know,

1163
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,360
like what his first car was.

1164
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,960
So like, there's this huge that, like, that just blew up overnight because it was basically

1165
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,440
him saying that, Hey, he's being tailed by the FBI.

1166
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,440
He's being tailed by this.

1167
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:07,640
And he has these ID, you know, the, the vehicle borne explosives in his car, um, for a reason

1168
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:13,640
trying to, uh, trying to bring awareness to this stuff, but also to keep deterring from

1169
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,600
these FBI agents that are trying to fuck with them.

1170
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,800
So there's like, there's this whole fucking letter.

1171
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,720
And then they talk about how this guy was, you know, a good green beret and stuff.

1172
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,760
He never had any really issues.

1173
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:32,120
So all this dropped here like last week and then like two days ago, which after this dropped,

1174
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,640
it was an emergency podcast.

1175
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,280
After this dropped, Sean Ryan went radio silent, said he's going to be dropping out for a little

1176
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,280
while.

1177
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,760
And then all of a sudden that same guy that did this interview a couple of days later,

1178
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,760
everyone's gone.

1179
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,000
He's, he does another interview with someone else and he's like, you know, it could be

1180
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,400
that he went off his meds or something.

1181
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,000
And he starts talking, he like switches up completely.

1182
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,000
Okay.

1183
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,760
So like, to be honest though, I have a very dear friend who may or may not listen to this.

1184
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,260
And when he goes off his meds, dude, the shit that comes out of that dude's mouth, it's

1185
01:00:06,260 --> 01:00:08,080
off the, off the wall.

1186
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:14,040
So, so this is where I'm at is like, so do we believe that maybe, so there are some other

1187
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,880
people that were saying like, Hey, there's no way this guy would have this kind of training

1188
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,400
or clearance to work on anything like this.

1189
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Hey, gravitic, uh, propulsion systems are bullshit, blah, blah, blah.

1190
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:30,440
So do we believe that, uh, or do we believe that maybe he went off his meds or do we believe

1191
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:41,000
that this other guy was influenced so badly by some other, you know, um, some other ghost

1192
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:49,320
forces out there that, that he was almost forced to switch up his, his, his, uh, his thinking

1193
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,880
on it to try to backpedal people.

1194
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,600
I don't know that there's a silent, silent war going on between us and China.

1195
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:03,160
Um, I wouldn't be surprised per se, but I do think that there's a lot of validity to

1196
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,960
the past ability that he went off his meds.

1197
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,560
I think, I think that too.

1198
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:13,000
I, but I, I think that it's, it's almost a, it's almost a split chance.

1199
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,000
You know what I mean?

1200
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:20,280
Because, because I think that, and I think a lot of people agree with this, this stance

1201
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:26,760
is what we've seen that the government has compared to what they haven't shown us as

1202
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,920
hundreds, probably years, uh, you know, from what we, they actually have, you know what

1203
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,920
I mean?

1204
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:39,200
I mean, you know, I had a top secret clearance up until like a year ago, cause it expired.

1205
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Um, I would say that in my experience and with what I've done, I would say the government

1206
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:53,600
has 10 to 12 years above where we're at, technolod technology wise.

1207
01:01:53,600 --> 01:02:03,400
So so with that knowledge, like gravitic propulsion systems to me is believable.

1208
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,600
It's like, it's like, it's not like they were trying to, they were fucking with that shit

1209
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,080
in world war two.

1210
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:15,720
Um, I believe Germany was trying to figure out how to, how to, I don't think that it's

1211
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,240
implausible at all.

1212
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,880
Um, I just don't think that we're in a silent war with China.

1213
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,240
I think we've been in a silent war, but not in the way that people are typically used

1214
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,240
to wars.

1215
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:32,280
I think within, within tariffs within, so he also ties in that balloon issue with China

1216
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,000
that happened last year, whatever.

1217
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,480
He ties that in with the same surveillance network that these gravitic propulsion systems

1218
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,520
are also trying to that are also doing.

1219
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:49,320
So so that balloon is tied to the same surveillance network that China is putting out with these

1220
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:54,280
propulsion systems, which because they're manipulating gravity, they have almost an

1221
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:00,520
unlimited payload, which is an end all for the U S as far as if anyone was to actually

1222
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,720
use them.

1223
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,040
I mean, I want to die in space when I'm 80 years old.

1224
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,200
So I have faith that this is what's happening.

1225
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:13,600
Um, because again, how else am I going to get to space when I'm 80 years old?

1226
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,520
I don't know, man.

1227
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,520
Ashes.

1228
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,520
No, no.

1229
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,520
I have to be 80.

1230
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,840
He needs to be alive.

1231
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,400
He wants to go to my head.

1232
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Like I want to be staring at Earth from orbit when I pulled the trigger.

1233
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,720
I was going to say, man, if you die sooner than that, I will have you cremated and we'll

1234
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:36,360
put you in a weather balloon after our friend Cody eats my finger because that is our our

1235
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,360
deal.

1236
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,360
Okay.

1237
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:47,840
That needs to be that needs to be talked about as far as this prior to, uh, uh, to, to death

1238
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,840
or cremation.

1239
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,840
Yeah.

1240
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,840
It has to be prior to cremation because he can't do like the cinnamon challenge and just

1241
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,440
assume it's part of your finger.

1242
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,440
Yeah.

1243
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,840
No, he has to just take his food, pull your ashes.

1244
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,840
Oh, sorry.

1245
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,040
He's here fast enough.

1246
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,320
He has to grill it on a grill and eat it like a rib.

1247
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,840
I feel like it would still be good though.

1248
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:13,440
Like I'd try by if, if you, I mean, I already know our, all of our answers to this, but

1249
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:19,880
if you were to, someone was to give you guilt free cannibalistic, uh, made a human food

1250
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,200
that was grilled fully cooked.

1251
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,280
It's fully safe to eat.

1252
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,280
It's guilt free.

1253
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,200
The person died and donated it.

1254
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,200
Would you eat it?

1255
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,840
So down a heartbeat in a hundred percent.

1256
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:33,840
It depends.

1257
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:34,840
What did they die of?

1258
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Mark, what about you?

1259
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,600
I have no, I have no answers for this one right now.

1260
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,160
He's like, you guys, what the fuck?

1261
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,360
I, um, uh, how about this?

1262
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,360
It was in the 1920s.

1263
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:52,280
It was a girl who worked at a paint factory, painting dials.

1264
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,280
Nope.

1265
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,280
I'm good.

1266
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,280
Watches.

1267
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,280
I am good to go.

1268
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,360
I do not need that quick death.

1269
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,360
Yeah.

1270
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,360
Yeah.

1271
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:09,480
So man, I, it's again that fucking ADHD and I, I had to inform our today's youth of the

1272
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:14,880
radium girls and how sad is that that you have to inform people about that?

1273
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,000
Dude, how sad is it that you have to inform people about 9 11?

1274
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,000
Oh yeah.

1275
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:25,400
I mean, well it's like 35, 40 year old and then some teenagers.

1276
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,400
They're like, radio girls.

1277
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,080
What are you talking about?

1278
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,080
I'm like, are you kidding me?

1279
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,080
What have you worse?

1280
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:38,740
Uh, like this is like one of the worst in all us history.

1281
01:05:38,740 --> 01:05:44,440
That is widely known, like biz, like I have a radium watch.

1282
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,760
That's very special.

1283
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:52,840
But it's just like the business completely extorted these women and what's one of the

1284
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:59,520
worst examples of businesses doing that ever recorded and the fact that they got away.

1285
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,520
Yeah.

1286
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:06,800
They, they made a law like what in the forties, like, Hey, if it's dangerous in the work environment

1287
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,320
that you have to pay for all of a sudden these businesses stopped.

1288
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,040
But fuck radium in the twenties, they were like, Hey, take this for your kid.

1289
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,800
It'll make your kids stopped kicking your belly.

1290
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,800
Well yeah.

1291
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,840
The, the radium girls, I don't look at it so much.

1292
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,840
I mean, yeah, don't get me wrong.

1293
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,160
They were extorted cause they didn't get a very livable wage.

1294
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:31,160
But you know, at the time radium wasn't looked at as a dangerous substance.

1295
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:39,040
I say that because when it was found out, not only did the company have examples of

1296
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,280
that already and chose to ignore them.

1297
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:50,860
They had, they had plenty of stuff done and plenty of instances where this stuff was happening

1298
01:06:50,860 --> 01:06:55,200
that they covered it up and they chose to ignore it because they were making boo-boo

1299
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,760
bucks on this.

1300
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,880
So I mean, at the beginning, I don't think it was like, I don't think they went out to

1301
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,880
extort.

1302
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,280
I think they ended up extorting.

1303
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1304
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,640
I mean with all things, even like lead, lead pipes.

1305
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,640
Yeah.

1306
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,520
Like, I mean, with all things you do it in, like you're honestly trying to make it better,

1307
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:18,640
but you know, lead in pipes and asbestos in our walls and stuff like that.

1308
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,440
You always think, you know, everything until, you know, 40 years later and all of a sudden

1309
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,560
smoking is fucking killing you.

1310
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,560
Like, well on that note, now that the world is ending and Gavin has told us how it will

1311
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:34,760
end, that's all from us here at Botches.

1312
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:41,520
Thanks for joining the last 15 minutes of conspiracy podcast with the Botches Offroad

1313
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,640
podcast and we'll see you next time.

1314
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:45,640
Later.

1315
01:07:45,640 --> 01:08:00,280
I hope next time comes soon.

