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Welcome to Botches Off-Road. Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to

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trail stories, tent camping to rock landing, and all things to do with the outdoors. We

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have a special guest today, Mr. Patrick. How are we doing today? I'm doing pretty good.

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Patrick's on our MST group that we tend to frequent. We were just going to chat a little

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bit tonight and just talk a little bit about what's been going on. Of course, I've been

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sick and all that. Patrick said he wanted to get on with us. That was a perfect opportunity

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to talk to him and have us tell us a little bit about his rig. He's got quite the unique

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one. Why don't we start off with that? What are you driving? The short answer is it is

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a 1988 Toyota 4Runner, one of the infamous first-gen 4Runners with the removable hard

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top. The long story is it is a piece-together truck that started as a two-wheel drive, 88

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Toyota pickup. It's been engine swapped, solid axle swapped. It has a long story in the roughly

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three and a half years that I've had it. It started off as a rusty two-wheel drive, regular

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cab, short bed farm truck with a seized engine. It kind of spiraled from there. Wow. How did

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you attack that? I guess for someone who's not super mechanically inclined, all the stuff

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that you've listed is already pretty like gumbobulating. I don't know. I wouldn't even

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know where to start. What did you do first? Here's pretty much the story of how this started.

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Before I ended up with this truck, I had an 86 Toyota pickup. It was an extra cab long

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bed, which is an oddball truck. They were originally sold as just a two-wheel drive

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just work trucks. They were all pretty much carbureted and most of them were actually

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automatic, which is kind of odd. I had that. I ended up doing a four-wheel drive version

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to it by getting a four-wheel drive front frame section, splicing the two frames together.

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I did that. After an unfortunate accident, basically wrote that one off, I now had a

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four-wheel drive drivetrain laying around. I had a wrecked truck with shot frame. Hey,

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look at this convenient two-wheel drive truck frame over here. I ended up doing a solid

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axle swap to that. I had a regular cab short bed truck. I drove that for a solid year and

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a half. It was my daily driver too because I have other cars, but it's just kind of fun

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to daily drive an old 80s Toyota. After a while and a couple cross-country road trips

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and driving out west of the mountains, I learned that having a nearly 100 horsepower, 22 RE

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sucks if you want to drive up a mountain and do anything even near the speed limit. I had

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a very beat to shit Tacoma. It was a 2010 with a 2TRFE in it. That is the modern 2.7

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NA4 cylinder. It's basically a newer 3RZ. I was like, huh. There was one guy that had

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a write-up talking about how they managed to swap a 2TRFE into an 87 4Runner. I'm like,

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it's doable. We had the magic mix of what parts needed to bolt it up to the original

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transmission in the 80s trucks since the transfer case is on the opposite side from the later

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ones. You can't just reuse the Tacoma transmission without a whole bunch of more work because

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the fucking driveshaft is on the wrong side. Thanks, Toyota, for fucking swapping that

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deciding that the passenger side drop through your transfer case makes sense. Fucking nothing

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uses that. Anyway, so using like 90s to come up bell housing and shit, all that will bolt

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together. Then we got to the wiring. Quote, this is what the write-up said. The wiring

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harness that's come is in three pieces. There's a dash harness, an engine harness, and I think

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there was like a tail light harness or something for it. Quote, the wiring's not that bad.

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And that was it for covering the wiring of the engine swap. So how did the guy tie it

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into the 4Runner? I have no fucking clue because he basically wrote the bare fucking minimum

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as to how he did the swap. The wiring, which is by far the hardest part of the swap. So

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I spent a bunch of time looking at the original 4Runner wiring diagram. And Toyota, you throw

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them, it's like 20 bucks. They give you a three-day subscription to all their service

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literature for everything. 1990 and newer. So I was able to pull all the schematics to

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build my own harness for the swap. Well, you're on that topic. What was it called? What, the

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Toyota Service Info? Yeah. Let me look it up again. Fuck your phone. I have my email

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and I have the purchase receipt. Enhance. I'm thinking this through... Enhance. I like

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to say it's through, it's TIS. You look up Toyota TIS, you can find it and they list

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all the subscriptions you can get. Here, I'll just send you the... This is like the homepage

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to TIS. Just send it to you, the messenger. It's this fucking website that looks like

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it's from 2003. I think it's actually through Snap-on or something. But yeah, this will

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give you service info for anything 1990 and newer. And if you have the actual special

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fucking Toyota scan tool, I think you can even like... If you give them enough money,

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I think you can even program ECUs and keys and stuff. But I don't really have a need

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to do that. I just wanted it for the service info because trying to do an engine swap like

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this without good accurate wiring diagrams is essentially impossible. But yeah, I basically

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managed to marry the 80s truck harness into the Tacoma engine harness because the other

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guy that did it, yeah, he made his run and drive, but I managed to pull off fully functioning

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emission system, working factory cruise control and working air conditioning.

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Yeah, that's nice.

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I'm not aware of anyone that's done a 2TR swap that has kept all that.

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How did you... Your cruise control, what controls it? Is it the factory control switch or did

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the old truck have a cruise control switch?

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So the switches that I'm using are the factory 80s Toyota cruise control switch. It's built

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into a wiper stock and there's an on-off switch on the dash. Basically what the newer Toyota's

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use, because this one's a drive-by-wire ECU, so cruise control is built into the ECU. As

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long as it has a speed sensor signal, I think like the brake pedal switch and the clutch

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safety switch, it just has cruise control. There's no external modules or anything for

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it. But basically the original Tacoma cruise control switch, it has one signal wire and

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basically it measures resistance to ground depending on which position the switch is

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in. So basically I had to measure those resistance values and match them with the stock truck

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switches and I had to take apart the on-off switch on the dash so I could back pin the

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on-off LED because I wanted that to work and solder straight onto the on-off switch and

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the actual dash switch to make it work as if it left the factory like that. So a little

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bit of reverse engineering to make that work how I wanted it to, but it works perfectly.

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So nice having good modern cruise control that so the vacuum shit that everything in

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the 80s had. It's like, yeah, it's better than nothing, but it's not exactly spectacular.

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Do you, where you're at, do you have to have working emissions or is that just an added

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benefit? No, I like having functional emission stuff. So, you know, the check engine lights

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off. So something does actually happen. I know instead of just having a perpetual check

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engine light. I think over in St. Louis, they do have emissions, but over here in Kansas

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city, nobody cares. I know a lot of that you can tune out to until it's quit paying attention

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for emissions. You can, I've tried to look around for people that can actually play around

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with the two TR ECU, but there is very little aftermarket support for them in North America.

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They head over to say Australia where they sold a lot more trucks with the two TR. It's

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a lot more support for them, but I haven't really had any luck finding anyone in the

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States that could actually play around with those ECUs. What years did that engine come

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out of? So 2010, right? So the ECU and all the engine management stuff is from a 2010

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and it did have, okay, so the 2010 Tacoma, it ended up having a problem with the timing

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gear. Well, the harmonic balancer came loose. It cracked the main timing gear and went out

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of time and the engine was also burning a shit load of oil. So that truck had an engine

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put in it from a 2015. I had that for a while until a radiator fan hit a radiator and it

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lost all its coolant without me knowing. I absolutely fucking cooked that engine. By

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the time I knew that something was bad, it had zero compression and a catastrophically

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blown head gasket. After looking around the pricing of used two TRs, there's an early

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and a late one, the 05 to 15 engines all under change and then 16 to 23 is the later one

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where they had a dual VVTi, I think a slightly higher compression ratio and a few other minor

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changes. For whatever reason, the newer engines were like solid, like grand cheaper than the

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early ones. Cause like an early engine with like 50,000 miles was pulling like, it's like

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four or $5,000 for a used one where I was able to find one from a 2022 with 22,000 miles

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on it for, I think it was like three grand. Actually, I think it's like 2,500 and this

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was a one-year-old engine with 22,000 miles on it. Wow. Yeah. So I went with that.

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Why did you go the four cylinder route instead of going with like a four row? I already had

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a four cylinder donor sitting in my driveway and I was able to keep the original W56. I

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don't have to worry about trying to adapt a different transmission in or dealing with,

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you know, trying to find another transfer case that dropped on the other side. I think

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like one or two people have done a four liter swap, but it's kind of tight to make those

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fit in these older trucks just cause how small they are. But it, I believe at least one person's

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done it because someone asked about that in the first gen Ford or Drupal and apparently

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someone's pulled it off. So does your, your factory transmission bolted directly to the

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four cylinder or do you need an adapter? Basically, so it's Toyota W series transmission. They

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have, you know, you can swap the bell housing out of it. So it has a bell housing that's

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meant for our three RZ. So a 90 to a 95 to like oh four four cylinder Tacoma. It has

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that bell housing on it, which will bolt onto the original W56 that bell housing will bolt

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up to the two TRF. They share the same bolt pattern. So it is all factory Toyota parts

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that is so freaking cool, dude, from different decades, but it's crazy. There's a hybrid

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transmission now too. It's a W56 W59 hybrid I built a few weeks ago. So like a fucking

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Johnny Cash song pretty much. The cabs in 88, the back half's in 85. I will say where

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you welded the cab there. I, I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell what you had done there. So

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you did a very good job. Yeah. Unless you know what you're looking for or look at it

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pretty close. Like anyone that's done actual bodywork and like gets up close and looks

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to it can tell, but like the fact I have straight, you know, door gaps and stuff, you know, I'm

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proud of that. It was just lining up the spot walls for the cab splice. Yeah. Well, the

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knowledge in the, looking at it in the dark and a snowstorm, it looked great, man. Right.

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Yeah. No, the knowledge man behind building something like this, that's just crazy. It's,

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it's like mind boggling for me. I can't even think of it. And I want to find line with

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this too, cause the cab, you know, the rear quarters look decent on it, but there's about

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a half inch of Bondo in them because the donor at some point was flopped on its side and

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you can see about like 20 screw holes for someone like pulled the quarterback out and

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just kind of fill it in with Bondo, which most people would view that as a, Oh, that

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sucks. Which I mean, I'm not thrilled to have Bondo in the quarters, but while first off

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it's been there since the nineties and all of it was still pretty much there. And you

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have a first gen forerunner that's pristine. You don't have something worth like $30,000

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to write the trails, right? What's something too nice because then I'll ever want to drive

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it. This is the right amount of rough from, you know, when I actually drive it, I kind

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of felt like that with my FJ at first I was like, man, I'm making payments. This thing's

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worth a lot, worth a lot as in I owe a lot on it. And yeah, I was, and I was like, man,

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I don't, I don't really want to do this. And I took it down a motorcycle trail on accident

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once and pinstripe the fuck out of it. And then I was like, okay, well, it's good now.

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Yeah. I mean the upside, the upside with the FJ is it's new enough that if you, you know,

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if something happened, God forbid you could go get another one pretty easy, but yeah,

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for sure. You can't, that's for me. Yeah. I know Patrick's, I mean that's that and it's

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so Frankenstein and so unique and custom that it would be, yeah, it'd be really hard to

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replace anything like that. Yeah. It's definitely unique. It's one of, I think, I think there's

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like three or maybe four different two TRF. He swapped the old toy. Does that know that

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actually run? You're some guy that has one and pretty much just a, you know, two chassis

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buggy, but he did it. Apparently he did this spot back in like 2007 when like he said,

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just were like grand fucking news. So that is wild to, you know, cause at that point

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in time, the two TRF, he was a new unknown engine. It had only been in the market for

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two years at that point. So he did that really early on in that one guy with the kind of

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crappy right up. Wow. What, what kind of power does that make? I believe it's rated at 160

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horsepower. It's about a 50 horsepower bump over a 22 RE. Yeah. Wow. Is that a, what kind

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of suspension are you running with it right now? So it's your standard leaf sprung Toyota.

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So it has Chevy 63 springs in the back and, I'm trying to remember what the fucks, I think

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they're Pro Comp, like three inch springs in the front. Oh, I think, I don't know. I

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got them from my friend in Texas and we're pretty sure they're Pro Comp springs. And

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then the rear axle is out of a 1990 pickup. It's from a friend who had a raw crawler who

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was getting switched to one tons. Someone else got the front axle, but I got the rear

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for the low, low price of loaded up and get it out of here. So I got the rear axle for

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free and the front axle is out of an 83 pickup. Wow. So the suspension's a pretty standard

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solid axle swap mini truck. Nothing super exotic there. No, it's, it's cool to have

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it though. The solid axle swaps are really sick on Toyota's. I've blown up so many CD

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axles with various IFS Toyotas. I got really good at swapping them. I will say the 96 to

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95 IFS setup. I like that the CV axle bolts onto the diff. Oh my God. What a miserable

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bitch they are to actually swap the fucking CV axle. You have to disassemble the entire

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fucking like, you have to like disassemble the front hub to actually get the CV axle

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out. Which after you bet 10 times it gets really fucking old. The 98s, it's not hard

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to get them out of the, the front knuckles, but man, getting them out of that diff, that

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C ring just catches it so solid and it takes a lot of beating to get that thing to come

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out. Big hammer and just give it a good hard whack is really the only way to get it out.

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Even then you still have to lay on the ground. You know, I'm on rebuild number three in the

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past year and every time I just hope that my CV axles are fine and everything else is

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broken. Yeah. That's part of the reason why I did the solid axle swap because I kept fucking

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up, you know, this IFS stuff. Like this shit just got so fucking old with constantly changing

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shit and fixing it. And like, I was blowing up CV axles with fucking 33s. Like fucking

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22 RE with 33s and it was fucking breaking CV axles. I'm like, are you fucking kidding

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me? And the early IFS setups, they had a standard steering box with an idler arm. All the fucking

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Toyota idler arms would snap in half too, so you'd lose steering. Not a fantastic setup.

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I didn't realize that. Yeah. The rack and pinion ones that are later, they don't really

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have that problem. I mean, people like Twizzler tie rods, but like, yeah, you'd sure the idler

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arms in half on the early IFS trucks. It was in Texas the last time I actually swapped one

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out for a guy because he had a second gen four runner and fucking snapped his idler arm

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in half. Wow. What's the biggest gripe about it so far that you just, what's something

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that you're just like, man, if I could change it, a heartbeat. It's hard to rethink. Well,

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I mean, it's pretty easy when you change. I really need to change my shocks on it because

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holy shit, they are fucking smoked and it kind of rots shit. It's not even that hard

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as this. I have to figure out what I want to buy and cry as I actually buy decent shocks

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for it. That's the one thing right now that kind of sucks on it or the shocks aren't great.

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And I put all the, so in the 80s, the SR5 trim package was top of the line, fully loaded.

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There was nothing above it until the 90s when the third gens came out. So it has power windows,

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power locks, the full gauge cluster, cruise control. One of the gripes I had for the longest

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time that I rectified this summer was 1980s Toyota air conditioning systems really weren't

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that great. They had tiny condensers and as soon as you get above like 90 degrees out

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there, virtually useless. You could try and, you know, even with R12, they just didn't

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work that well because Toyota had a really undersized system compared to what, you know,

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domestic manufacturers had at that time. I finally said fuck it. And I pulled a complete

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HVAC system out of a, it was an 02 Tacoma that ended up at a pick and pull. Now the

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dash was basically the only thing still intact on this truck by the time it got to it. The

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bed was gone, doors were gone, engine was gone, the transmission was gone, the seats

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were gone. Every removable body panel that was still good was gone. It was like half

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of a frame and like a cab with a dash still in it. I'm like, well, what I want is still

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here. So I pulled the whole HVAC system out of that because they use a newer style of

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evaporator core and they have a better blower motor that moves more air. But they shared

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pretty much the same layout as the original HVAC system in the 80s truck. It also uses

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electronic controls instead of cables, which got kind of annoying. So that was pretty cool.

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And I, you know, shove that in basically the same spot the original HVAC box was and got

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that hooked up. And I have a custom stacked AC condenser setup and it went from having

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AC that, you know, fucking sucked ass when we got about 90 to, you know, when it was

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a hundred degrees out last summer, it would cool down to like 38 degrees where the thermal

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shutoff is. Fucking Jesus. It went from, wow, this sucks to, oh, this is the best air conditioning

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I got in like all my cars right now. Then you, yeah. Then you don't even need a fridge.

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You just keep your shit laying around in the truck. Yeah. Beers are always cold. Yeah.

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Yeah. I, when you first pulled in, when you came to my house last week, I was like, dude,

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you really drove that thing all the way over here. That's what I, I sent a message about

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that too. Yeah. I was like, oh, that's your daily. Then I got looking at it and I was

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like, dude, this thing is fricking dope. Yeah. I have a bunch of the, you know, creature comforts

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that most first gen foreigners don't have. You know, most people have like a 22 RE with

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like, you know, no AC, no cruise control, manual windows, like the fucking shitty base

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trim seats and like, no, all that. But you know, the SR5s have like enough of the modern

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luxuries for them to be, you know, tolerable to, you know, live with, especially since

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there's a third gen foreigner center console of actual cup holders. Now that's pretty nice

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to talk about that just so that Gavin knows his center console and my mirror came off

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the same car. Oh yeah. Benji's. Yep. Yeah. That's pretty cool. You should have had him

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sign it clear coat that shit. I mean, I could go back there and have him sign my stuff.

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He's only a couple hours. I need to talk to him. I want to cut the four section out of

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his donor where the rear heat unit goes so I can swap the third gen rear heater into

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mine and get that functional again. Because I know it was under the passenger seat, but

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the floor isn't deep enough on the first gen to actually fit the unit in there. But you

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know, a bit of metal work definitely doesn't scare me. So I have one with the working rear

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heater and I have one without the working rear heater and the little bit of benefit

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that it gives you, it's really not worth all the extra work. Honestly, the only reason

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why I kind of want to do this is because it bothers me having rear heat controls that

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do nothing. That's fair. I know they don't really do a whole lot in the front heaters

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plenty, but still. Now that's fair. I've got one. So my rear heat and my daily, the

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silver truck, it doesn't work, but the fan blows. So at least you can get air blowing

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back there. Right. Well, your window rolls down. So that's nice too. I mean, so many

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of the northern climate third gens to have had the lines to the rear heater brought out

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and they've been looped so they don't even do anything anymore. Mine. Yeah. Yeah. But

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the, the black one that's got the working heater. And I mean, is it a nice added feature?

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Sure. But it doesn't really blow as hard as you'd expect it to. Yeah. Oh, that's funny

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too. Is that earlier rear heat set up? So I've seen what the first gen second gen and

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third gen ones look like. So, you know, you've seen the third gen rear heater lines and they're

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like tiny. I think they're like a three eight line roughly. They're small. Yeah. Well, the

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first chance they still have like a half inch heater hose and holy shit. You might have

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heat the first gen rear heaters would make because they had the larger heater hoses.

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Like you could turn the rear heat on and you don't have everything in the front shut off

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and within like 10 minutes, it'd be nice and warm without anything on the front HVAC system

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turned on. It was kind of the only nice thing to have rear heat. And I'm thinking this just

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having my son in the backseat because it takes a while for the fucking heat to actually circulate

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even to the back. I mean, not in a third gen. No. Yeah. But every every every time I open

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that I have to open up my suicide door and my front door and move the passenger seat

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up to get him in or out. It's it would have been nice to have maybe like a rear heat or

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something back there just to keep him a little toasty. Something that's annoying about the

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Tercel is the HVAC system. Twitter put nose was pretty spectacularly terrible because the

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heat in it sucks. And it's not that there's anything wrong with it because if you watch

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the Motor Week Russia review for the Twitter Tercel wagon, which they filmed this in the

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winter, they're like, yeah, the heater really couldn't keep up once it started snowing real

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heavy. It's like, oh, good to know that these have sucked, you know, as soon as they roll

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from the ground. Yeah. Man, look at that seamless segue he just did from his his forerunner

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to come with or Toyota pickup thingy to his car cell. That was perfect. Which, you know,

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I saw a group of Tercells at the dunes that time we did Toyota Takeover. Yeah. I'm watching

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those climb the dunes. Those guys are super cool. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. We were all

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like, wow, Tercells. I mean, the Tercel community can't be that big. So I'm sure you know. Yeah,

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right. They're bigger. There's a lot more still around that you'd expect. So every so

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for the past five years now, we've actually had a like get together where we do a Tercel

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meet and greet where we basically convince people to bring their cars out to get together

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and do some way off roading and like when we went to Colorado, we had like 20 of them

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or something like there was a line. Dude, those pictures still amaze me. I look at I

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have some of those saved somewhere. That was a cool meet. You should see the expressions

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from people when they see like 20 of these fucking cars in one piece. They're like, what

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the fuck is this? Yeah, somebody needs to swap the body of a Tercel on something else.

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Oh, I've seen several of them dropped on 400 truck frames. One of the guys actually has

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one on a I think it's a 93 pickup frame with a one UZ. That would be so cool. I'll have

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to I'll have to look at that later. Well, the next meeting will be in Michigan. That

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would be fun to be in September or something, but it's going to be in Michigan. So that

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would be cool. Yeah, we do that. Oh, yeah. Can I crash it just to go and see all this

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yourself? We're a very open and inviting group. So that is not a problem. Yeah, I was gonna

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say, I'm sure they're I'm sure they're hoping to get anybody they can get at that point.

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So we'll we'll come as the media crew and get some some media passes or fake ones made

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up. Fresh off your printer at home. Yeah. No, that's cool. How long have you had the Tercel?

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So I got this one. Not two months ago. I picked it up pretty recently. It's a 86 SR5. So it's

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a very fancy car for its day. And the reason why I wanted this one in particular is it

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has the very rare, very hard to find factory cruise control. So the Tercells were built

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from 83 to 88. 88 was kind of a split year. They only sold them for I think the first

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couple months in the 1988 before they replaced it with the Corolla all track wagons. But

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86 through 88 were the only years you could get factory cruise control on them. And it

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was a very rarely ordered option. And not exactly something that's easy to swap into

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another car. And this one had it which now the body was in decent shape. Interior was

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fucking rough. But you know, body was solid, you know, and it was a very original car.

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Someone swapped an engine at some point it has one from I think an 83 or 84. When was

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it swapped? I have no clue. Why was it swapped? I have no clue. But it has been swapped at

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some point for some reason. But yeah, it's a factory cruise control car. It has air conditioning.

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They never had power windows or power locks. But may find a way to make that change. And

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I've now swapped out all the seats. It has another dash swapped in it. Like, I took basically

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the whole front of the car apart just to clean it. Because it was parked outside. The last

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registration sticker was 2006. It was parked outside with a horrific windshield leak. So

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the headliner was growing mushrooms on it. The carpet was green. The seats were green.

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And there was just a healthy layer of just mold on basically every part of the interior

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of this car. It was bad. You're giving me anxiety and I need to go check my 442. Yeah.

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The good news is yours wasn't parked for well over a decade. So you should be fine. I'm

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just actually I would check yours because seeing as dad's got a sub one of those at

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the I forget what it was nine something. And he had that part for not even two years. And

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I went to open it up because I was going to take pictures to sell it. The whole inside

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it was like powder, just mold everywhere on every surface. And I closed the door. And

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I'm like, I think I might die in the next 24 hours. And, and I looked at Leo and I

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said, dude, we're going to have to open every door of this and just take a leaf blower to

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it before we do anything. Get all that shit out of there. Because, oh, it was nasty. We

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closed the doors. We haven't even talked about a sense. It was, it was bad, dude. That is

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leech on the interior of the tercel. Yeah. Yeah. That is my biggest fear with that car

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because I know I can't afford to fix it. I haven't found all the parts yet. But God,

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if I just found something like that inside it, I'd probably cry. My biggest fear for

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you is mice. Just tearing apart your fucking wiring harness or something. That's already

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a problem. The main wiring harness has been chewed through. I got to rip it all out and

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rewire it. Yeah. Yeah. I've had a couple of mouse nests in the tercel too, which was absolutely

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not a surprise at all. No, no, not at all. Like one headlight plug like under the hood.

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Like that was it. I'm like, you know what? Now that is fine. I did. I took out my cabin

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air filter here because I hadn't changed it pretty much since I bought the truck and I

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took my cabin air filter out in the, I would say a couple of months ago, there was acorns

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and all sorts of shit. There's, there's something bringing it in there. And I'm like, Oh, well,

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that's might be why I got some weird smells coming in in my truck. Yeah. There was a mouse

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nest in the blower motor, the tercel and the blower motor was solid. Yes. It's got bones

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in it. Yeah. It's, I need to get to that car. I think I'm going to do that in the spring

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just because at least pull the motor and go through it again and make sure it's okay.

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Yeah. I mean, scared to death. Yeah. I would at least go through it and refresh it. I mean,

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just to make sure it was like, I'll do that with the, with little foot, the 94 Chevy. I'll

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go through that every once in a while and just kind of clean it up, blow it out, make

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sure everything's ready. I will say I have the opinion of if you have some, you know,

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something older than like the eighties or nineties, it's usually your best interest.

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Like you really want to drive the shit out of something, put a bunch of miles on it's

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like rip the bandaid off, pull the engine, at least pre-gasket it and you know, make

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sure it's in good shape, the rings or bearings or whatever. It's like not necessarily machine

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work, but go through it. Cause otherwise you'll have an engine and it's like, yeah, it's great.

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And 20,000 miles later, it's like, wow, everything that can leak oil is, this is great. See,

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I bought my four four two in, I want to say 21, it had about 80,000 miles on it. And all

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I did was fix an injector, pump out the old gas, put new gas in it. And I put almost 30,000

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miles on it before the oil pump quit. It still doesn't leak anything, but the oil pump is

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bad. It's such a weird thing to fail. It's timing driven. So probably the timing failed.

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I was going to say that that's a strange failure. That's like, I'll do like one of two things.

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I went to the opinion of either go all out and do everything or don't touch a fucking

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thing. Yeah. One or the other. Cause my Pontiac, you know, I haven't really done anything to

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the engine on it, but you know, it's a 3,800 so they're pretty stout. It's a series one,

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so it doesn't have the fucking intake gas problems or the stupid cool elbows. You should

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swap a quad four in that just because quad fours are fricking cool and they're so much

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faster than 3,800. If I were to get a quad four one, I would import a Euro van that left

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the factory with a quad four in it. Well, that'd be cool too. Yeah. That'd be fun. What Pontiac

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do you have? It's a 1993 Pontiac transport van. Oh, okay. But yes, the Euro market Pontiac

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transport was available with the quad four and a five speed manual. I now want one. That

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is fucking awesome. I really want to pick up a first gen S 10. Um, I think it's a first

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gen like a 91 S 10. Yeah. And I want to pick up. Yeah, that was still first gen late first

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gen and then I want to pick up a 91 bravada and put a quad four in the S 10 and make it

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look like a bravada pickup. That would be so cool. Right. Put the whole bravada front

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end so it looks like the bravada in the front. Do like bravada badging on the tailgate and

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paint it like you would a bravada, but then power it by an actual oldsmobile engine with

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like, I don't know, a five speed or something. It'd be a cool little truck. The bravada is

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so neat, but there was two of them out there. I had to go double check the look to make

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sure the transport was what I thought it was. Man, I forget about these things that they're

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so ugly. They're cool. Like, oh, they look like Hollywood baby cars. You say they are

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a love it or hate it design. There are people there. The ugliest thing GM has ever made.

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Oh, they are. That's my wife. Yeah, they're ugly, but there there's things and that's

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what I like is like there are things that are so ugly that they're damn cool. And like

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that and like that's how I saw the FJ at first is like I thought it was the ugliest thing

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ever and then it was like, all right, I kind of like it. Now it's growing on me. The reason

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why I like the transport man's is they are very similar to what the original concept

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car looked like. They didn't make too far from the original concept car. So I just sent

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you guys both a link. This is the bravada that I was trying to buy when I bought my

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third gen and the guy, no matter how much I messaged him, would not respond to me. That's

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so cool. Oh, even as a digi dash. Yeah. Did you dashes were the coolest fucking thing.

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He turned out to digi dash, but they're really rare to actually find. I wanted this truck

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so bad because it would look so good parked next to my 91 442. Yeah, God parked being

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the operative word, but that's funny. No, I love that. That is cool. I'm not a big like

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Oldsmobile guy. I guess. I guess, you know, they are what they are. They're cool, but

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I would have to say this is pretty cool. I'll put a link to this in the show notes just

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so that everyone sees it. But I would have definitely wheeled the hell out of this thing

377
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and that smart track would have been so pissed at me the whole time. Yeah, I remember it

378
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was my third and fourth grade teacher. She had a bravada like that. Even as a kid, I

379
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was like, what the fuck is this thing? Because like I had never really seen one before. Aren't

380
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those like really similar to like what are the older explorers, the 94 explorers? As

381
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10, is it the yeah, it was basically a, you know, up badged, fancier as 10 blazer. I think

382
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it was supposed to kind of compete with his Ford to start to make more luxurious versions

383
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of the Explorer. So I think that was the Mercury line. Yeah, that was GM's attempt to kind

384
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of compete with them. But you know, obviously it didn't really work that well, seeing as

385
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they didn't really sell many of them. Well, they would have if they just put a quad four

386
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in it. Okay, I am thinking of the Ford Explorer just being that boxier. Yeah. But yeah, I

387
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mean, the Typhoon still the coolest of those Typhoon is an S10 blazer. So I know, I know.

388
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Yeah, I'm aware. I'm just saying, I just think out of all of them, I really like the Typhoon.

389
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I thought it was very cool. So this is how different is the typhoons want supercharged

390
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or those turboed turbo turbo. They're turboed. So this is a euro transport with a quad four

391
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in it. All right, that sounds sick. I think it was one of the lowest horsepower quad fours

392
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like of the lineup, but it is you know, a factory quad four. Yeah, that is a quad for

393
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LO. So a low output. Yeah, I think it was the one that was used in the Grand Am I think.

394
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,820
Well the Grand Am also got a high output. So maybe I'd have to see better from the top

395
00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:56,040
of it. But it might be a high output, which would be frickin sick. No, these have a low

396
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,600
output version, unfortunately. Oh, lame. Yeah, let's put the low output version into a minivan.

397
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What could possibly go wrong? As terrible as terrible as the quad four is, as a quad four

398
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owner, I'll come out and tell you they're fucking terrible, but they are the coolest

399
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thing that GM ever did. Like they're just, oh, they're so funded. They sound cool. They

400
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:28,960
look cool. And it was DM's first actually like modern quartz owner engine too. Yep.

401
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:35,760
Yes this is a typhoon was powered by a 4.3 L LB4 V6. Yeah, they were the turbocharged

402
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:45,760
ones. 200 horsepower. Imagine that bravado that I sent with a typhoon engine in it. Oh,

403
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:54,400
that'd be so sick. The engine uses a Mitsubishi TDO6 turbocharger. One of the wildest swaps

404
00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:00,120
that I've seen was there's a guy in Canada who had a early Lumina APV. I think it was

405
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,520
like a 90. Well, apparently he didn't like TDI 31 and wanted something with better fuel

406
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,200
economy. So he got his hands on a front wheel drive four three diesel and swapped it in.

407
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:16,480
I'm like, damn it. I had that idea. Someone else beat me to it. Damn. I really want to

408
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,360
get one of the front wheel drive four or three diesels, but God, they are so fucking hard

409
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:29,920
to find. They suck. Nobody trusted the old diesel by the eighties. So they did not sell

410
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,760
many of them. And for some reason, you know, 85 horsepower V6 diesels weren't exactly,

411
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:43,240
you know, a big seller for GM. Yeah, no, I wouldn't. Well, when you took a 350 and tried

412
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to make it a diesel and it ran like crap, no one's going to trust you after that. Which

413
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,320
is sad because the later ones weren't nearly as atrocious as the early ones. And the four

414
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:59,320
three diesel wasn't actually like, they still lost some design cues of the 350 diesel, but

415
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,880
they like added more head bolts to them. And I think 84 has even had the actual fuel water

416
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,840
separator like they fucking should have had from the factory. But like by the time they

417
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,080
started to actually get half decent, GM pulled the plug on it and you know, that was dead.

418
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:20,460
Yeah. Typical GM. Hey, it's starting to get kind of good. Oh, yeah. Nevermind. Stop. Yeah.

419
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:25,260
There was quite recently I saw an Oldsmobile diesel for sale here in Michigan. I'll see

420
00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:32,600
if I can find it and I'll send it to you. They shop every now and again. The 350s usually

421
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aren't that hard to find. It's the like A bodies with the four three or the really hard to

422
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:43,680
find ones. And I think the C bodies did 84 only, but like those are like insanely rare.

423
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I've seen like a grand total, I think two, one was a Cadillac, one was a like an old

424
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,440
98. And like they were, I think, I think it was only like the first like three months

425
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,520
of production, you could get it with that engine. That's when GM pulled the plug in

426
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,240
production. It was like some guy that like had one for sale right now, but it was like

427
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:05,880
$10,000 for it, which like who in their right mind would fucking pay them much for it. It's

428
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,600
like, yeah, it's rare, but rare doesn't equal valuable. Is it worth a little more with the

429
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:17,560
really rare engine? Yeah, a little more. Not that much more. Sweet car. You can't get any

430
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:26,320
fucking drivetrain parts for. Yeah. How hard would it be to do like, now, since we're talking

431
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:32,000
about diesels, because I'm kind of curious with your knowledge, how hard would it be

432
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to like diesel swap that your your truck? Would you or would you even think about it?

433
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Are you cool with what's what's there? When I still play it out to a drive trucks, I actually

434
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:48,200
got really close to it as in I actually bought a Toyota L diesel from a 82 pickup and all

435
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,480
these stuff for this soliciting my parents basement was really close to swap in one of

436
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,600
those and and then I did the toy started playing around four wheel drive stuff went hot. Maybe

437
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,600
a 76 horsepower diesel isn't the best idea after all, especially since you can't really

438
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get any parts in North America easily. But I got really close to playing around with

439
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,720
the Toyota diesels and I decided that really low horsepower and a diesel is probably not

440
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:19,480
the actual thing. You still have that little diesel sitting around? Yes, it is in the basement

441
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:26,600
of my parents house. Geez, that's funny. How cool would that be in my generator, though?

442
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Actually cooler in a ter cell. So it would be so cool in a ter cell. That engine would

443
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,200
be huge and unfortunately, be basically impossible to actually make it fit the ter cell transmission.

444
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Right. It was I think it's like the one C Toyota diesel like actually matches the bell

445
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200
housing bolt packer. But I think like the starters on the wrong side or something because

446
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,760
someone got one bolted up to the transmission. I don't think they were able to figure out

447
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,280
a starter motor that would like actually work for it. But I think that was the one engine

448
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,240
that actually shared the same bull pattern as the Toyota A series engines. Forage E swaps

449
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:05,840
are pretty common on them. My roommate has a turbo forage and a first gen ter cell which

450
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,720
is the same transmission as the later ones. And you know, I know there's several people

451
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:18,640
with forage E swapped wagons, which I find every real drive forage E. I just happened

452
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,520
because, you know, if I would be kind of nice going from 62 horsepower to doubling it at

453
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:29,920
120 would be pretty cool, too. All right. Completely off topic. But I just found an

454
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:37,520
N body Baja car that someone built. What the fuck? Yeah, I am going to send this to you

455
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,000
because you will love it. Sorry, I just I happen to see it because I've looked up and

456
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:48,400
body stuff just a second ago and it was like top of the Google listing.

457
00:43:48,400 --> 00:44:03,440
What the fuck? It is cool. Isn't it? I like anything that's different. Yeah, for sure.

458
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,480
I like anything that's N body. That's why I tend to fall into the off road groups with

459
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,320
you know, all the oddball and weird shit because like, you know, eight different fucking moderately

460
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,240
built fifth gen foragers in a row. It's kind of boring after a while. It's like, wow, they're

461
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:24,880
all pretty much the same. Yeah, that's as much as I love Mark. Don't take this as a

462
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,040
slam mark when you do listen to this. That's kind of where I'm at with like second and

463
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,800
third gen tacos. Everyone has a second or third gen taco. Yeah, you're not bad, but

464
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,040
they're the fucking it's really hard to make one of those unique. The only real way to

465
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:45,680
do that is to like put one tons under them. Right. When I first bought the FJ, I thought

466
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,520
I was being very unique and that that slapped me in the face very quickly when I started

467
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:56,720
giving out these forms and was like, if you want to do it, it's been done. Like the like

468
00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:01,880
FJs were like, so they were already in it quite a bit by the time that I was even. Well,

469
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,000
the numbers are dwindling, though. You don't see nearly as many FJs now as you did a couple.

470
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:12,360
Yeah. And mine's in really good condition engine and body wise. I would say. Well, yeah,

471
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,440
it is. I mean, it is. I mean, it doesn't matter. Right. Hundred and forty seven thousand miles

472
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:25,220
virtually rust free. I mean, it's got surface rust, but it's it's it's a good condition

473
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:29,200
for what it is. And I think anything for real drive Michigan that's not rusty means either

474
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,160
a it's not from there or B someone bought it, never drove it like. Yeah. The guy. So

475
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:44,600
the guy that I bought it in probably three years ago now and the guy who had it before

476
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:51,480
kept it in the garage all year. So and and would never drive it in the winter. Had another

477
00:45:51,480 --> 00:46:00,040
car for that. So it supposedly had never seen a winner and I could believe it. But which

478
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:07,400
is just so weird for FJ not see winter, though. But I don't know. I he just so happened that

479
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:14,680
the guy that I bought it in. Well, I don't even I can't remember the city. What's that

480
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:23,040
city? Oh, Holland. I bought it in Holland and just so happens, like I lived in New Ago

481
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:28,040
that that that owned it. I was like, oh, you're going right back home, buddy. That's wild.

482
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:34,200
Yeah. So drove it two hours back home and and that's why I started looking on the groups.

483
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,960
I'm like, I got to find some off road groups. I got to get I got to get this experience

484
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,120
down now. And I'm like, can't wait, man. I finally found this unique truck I wanted since

485
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:50,360
high school. And then I get on and everyone's like, everyone's got one. And I'm like, oh,

486
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,240
man, that's all right. And then I start and then I start driving around and I see him

487
00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:01,680
everywhere now. I'm like, motherfucker. The the third gens are cool because they're older.

488
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,760
There are I'm not saying there's no documentation on because people have done lots of stuff

489
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,720
with the third gens, but they're unique enough that when I go to do stuff, I'm kind of blazing

490
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:18,400
my own path every once in a while. Yeah. But I'm not completely in the dark. I was just

491
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,480
saying it's pretty much all been done for the FJ. It's fun. I guess in the dark, but

492
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:29,040
he has something like a Tercel wagon where, oh, yeah, that was in the 80s and 90s. Right.

493
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:35,640
Originally, I want when I had my oh six Baja, I was really wanting to like turn that into

494
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,880
an overlanding vehicle. And in a way that was had never really been done in the fashion

495
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,880
that I wanted to do it. But once I had my son and I realized I can't even fit a car

496
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,600
seat in the back seat, that kind of changed things. So I ended up selling that, which,

497
00:47:53,600 --> 00:48:00,240
by the way, that subframe was literally rotted out to Swiss cheese. So I sold it for I think

498
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:05,880
twelve hundred dollars. And, you know, I think rarity was the only thing that got it up that

499
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,360
high. God, I swear, Subaru's like up north. They're either like fucking suspiciously clean

500
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,880
and rust free or like comically rusty. And there's a very long between either one bump

501
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,640
away from falling off or wow. This. Oh, yeah. Yeah. From the outside, the body was all plastic.

502
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,400
So from the outside, it looked completely rust free and great. But you looked under

503
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:34,360
it. And that that was part of my issue is I had it for probably six years, had two hundred

504
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,680
and sixty seven thousand miles on it. And I had it for probably six years. And I looked

505
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,600
under that thing only when I had to fix it pretty much. And when I looked at it this

506
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:51,240
summer because someone wanted me to take pictures of the rear and I was like, Jesus Christ,

507
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:55,200
I'm trying to sell this thing for twenty five hundred. I fucking I had to lower the price

508
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:01,760
on the market now as I lowered it. And I'm like, God damn parts only. Yeah. I lowered

509
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,920
it to two because I knew people were going to do me down to like, you know, fifteen or

510
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,840
something. And I'm like, basically, can I get more than the fucking junkyard will pay?

511
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,360
Exactly. So I was like, I'll take anything. But we they gave me twelve and I ended up

512
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:20,920
using that to buy some upgrades for the FJ like radio. And if you ask my wife what I

513
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,200
ended up spending twelve hundred dollars on for the FJ, I don't even remember. It was

514
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,720
all little things. I'm so. Yeah, I live on the edge of the rust belt now where, you know,

515
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:33,720
I can find older stuff and it's not completely fucking rot into the fucking ground. I'm like

516
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:38,160
everything else in Michigan because like the true cell is like fucking spotless underneath

517
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,320
like two rust spots in the rockers and like a little bit like rust, like the door bottoms.

518
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,840
But like it's nowhere near as like catastrophically rusty as a Michigan car would be. Oh, yeah.

519
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,000
No, I want it. Like I said, I wanted to overland the shit out of the bar. And I really liked

520
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,920
it because the fuel economy, it was a weird looking pickup truck car. I thought that would

521
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,880
be so cool. But so what not this back to back to Subi's a little bit when I was in high

522
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:11,920
school, I had a buddy who's his dad daily drove an 06 STI. Right. Yep. And this would

523
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:18,560
have been probably 2012 is when I start remembering things about this car. But in 2012, it was

524
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:24,120
already rotted into the fucking ground, dude. Oh, six year old car just rotted the hell

525
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,800
out. Yeah. I would say that that was like their biggest flaw, even above head gaskets.

526
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Like I and I say this like the guy I know, the guy that had it before me, I was a second

527
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:42,320
owner. The only thing he ever did was basic maintenance and a timing belt. And that was

528
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:50,200
it. So when I bought it, I had it for probably two years. And finally it started to leak

529
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,320
oil after I took it to a place in Fremont and they overfilled it and put 1030 instead

530
00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:03,400
of 530. That was a whole thing. Finally started to leak oil then and blew a head gasket. He

531
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,720
took it. They took the engine out, replaced the head gasket, the water pump, the bell,

532
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:14,640
all the all the stuff that you usually do, the idler pulleys, put it back in like 13

533
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:20,640
hours and had my car running again so I could go to work the next day and had zero issues

534
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:28,600
with it ever since until I would say a couple of years, I would say last year or so. Well,

535
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,800
once I bought the FJ, I wasn't driving much anyway, and it just became kind of a yard

536
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:39,280
truck basically driving around, load wood in it, drive around, dump it, you know, like

537
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,720
a little K truck. But yeah, at that time, I was like, all right, well, I'm not going

538
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,600
to drive it. I'm not going to overland it, not going to do anything with it. So I'm just

539
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,320
going to sell it because at that point, it was just money that I could have. So Japanese

540
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,880
stuff in general, like up until like very, very recently and how stuff hasn't even been

541
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,560
long enough or rather see how it'll hold up like Japanese cars in general, who's always

542
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:07,400
fucking struggling just don't think. I just don't think they were made for that. You know,

543
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,560
I mean, design with that in mind. But if you go back to the 80s, the life expectancy of

544
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:18,240
a car was significantly shorter versus now. Yeah, very much that even if you look at cars

545
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:22,280
in Japan, dude, they're always rotted the hell out from just being in that salt all

546
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,480
the time. Yeah. And this is Japan still has the expectation of like every couple of years,

547
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,000
get a new car. They don't really like there's a guy in the Tercel group that's over in Japan

548
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,920
where he's been buying parts from the US, importing them to Japan to fix his Tercel

549
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,400
because he can't get parts for it locally because there's like none of those cars left.

550
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,640
God, I was just reading about a company and was like, or not a company a country. I don't

551
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:52,460
want to say it's the Philippines. It's something it's a it's a they have a law that they after

552
00:52:52,460 --> 00:52:56,680
every couple of years, you actually have to like, you know what I'm talking about? Actually

553
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:04,720
have to like get a new car. Korea, Korea, they have to pay Korea if it's older than 10 years,

554
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,480
they have to pay insane insurance. Yeah, 10 years or something like that. Yeah. I know

555
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,160
it's really strict. I was like something that admissions related or something where once

556
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:19,640
you have crazy over 10 years, they're really strict. Yeah, I've looked that up later. But

557
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:24,400
one of my favorite memories from Korea, we were in the back of an LMTV and a dude I have

558
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,960
a picture somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. A dude pulls up behind us in like a 94

559
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Y.J. right. And he's all in his little Korean business suit looking all fancy and stuff.

560
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,560
And we're on the expressway and we're in a traffic jam. And he just turns right and drives

561
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:49,480
up a frickin mountain in his business suit. And you know that the dude's rich because

562
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:55,000
he's paying like three thousand dollars a month in car insurance. Oh, yeah, for sure.

563
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:01,280
Yeah, with the guys with the older stuff like that, you already know. It's really cool.

564
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:08,600
I just like this Jeep had like all these Korea off road and all these other badges on it.

565
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,360
And he's in a frickin business suit. Look at all fancy. I will say on that Korean off

566
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:21,860
road note, like I've seen some of these Asian off road groups. They're not sure where they're

567
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:29,920
really centralized, but like FJ groups and man, are those fucking cool to watch. Those

568
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:35,480
guys, those guys mod the shit out of their FJs and then they beat the crap out of them

569
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,040
too. It's cool to watch. I watch it go through their way down to like Central America and

570
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,360
stuff. And every now and then you'll find a couple of them over in like Russia and stuff

571
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,800
too. Yeah. Most of them are in North America, but a few of them eventually a bit further

572
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,840
away from there. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool to see. I like a lot of people are doing the

573
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:01,320
same thing, especially with FJs too. And I'm trying not to fit that, fit that mold, like

574
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:09,360
a hundred percent cookie cutter. But yeah, but at the same time, what I, what I'm doing

575
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,640
and what, you know, what I'm trying to do, I have to kind of conform a little bit to

576
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,480
it. And we were talking about that. Me and Alex were talking about that the other day

577
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,880
about going into, I didn't, I wanted to do custom drawers and stuff in the back of mine.

578
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:29,160
And we were kind of talking about me going, maybe me looking into Milwaukee for some,

579
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,040
for just the fact that I could, you know, take the pack outs out the back and switch

580
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,920
them for different seasons, different outings and stuff like that. And while that's not

581
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:44,540
a bad idea at the same time, if I want to do the year round, I'm kind of, I'm weighing

582
00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:52,280
the pros and cons right now. And, uh, yeah, you will. Yeah. But it's, it's hard because

583
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:58,560
I, you know, with my son in there, because if I took the rear seats out, there would

584
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:05,080
be no problem at all. Yeah. But you don't have to, if you pack out. Well, that's not

585
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,920
necessarily, it's just a space issue in general for how I want to set up, you know, with the

586
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:17,880
kitchen and, and, and being completely self reliant through the FJ. It's tough with a

587
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:23,760
kid because of the space he requires. You know, I currently need drawers from my forerunner

588
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,960
because right now I have the loosely throw all my crap in the back and just do that.

589
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:34,640
Which I mean, dude, I guess it kind of works. Yeah. Listen, listen to our pack out episode.

590
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,360
It's called, you had a contractor truck. Yeah. Me and Mark go through all the reasons pack

591
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,400
outs are perfect for that. Yeah. And then I was talking to Alex about it and we're like

592
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,720
thinking about, Oh, we can put these pack. We can actually mount these pack outs upside

593
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:52,640
down and have like quick grabs and stuff. And like, like, so I'm, I'm seeing it. And

594
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,160
I think there's a place for pack outs. I don't think that they're useless. I don't think

595
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:04,680
that, uh, like there's no place for them in my, in my gear. I just think that I, I am

596
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,640
going to try to incorporate both because I can use that door, you know, you know, where

597
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:16,280
my door swings out. Yeah. If I put pack out mounts on my door and put out like quick grab

598
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:23,040
pack out stuff, that would be really, that would be really nice. But I think that you

599
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:29,200
get stuck on the fact that you have a kid. Um, you know, I wheel with dogs and they take

600
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:36,040
up the entire backseat. So I actually ended up with less space than what you've got even

601
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:44,000
with the kid. No, I mean, I would say by law, I'm required to have a, to have, you know,

602
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,800
the seat bolted, you know, down into a certain way. I feel with the dogs, they're, they're

603
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,960
a little bit more fluid as you can move them around to different places, but I have to

604
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,520
have him fit in a certain way. And that was two dogs in a third gen dude. I don't have

605
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,600
room for that. I got to leave my entire backseat and entire floor empty. Well, and I don't

606
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:10,880
know. I, I, I would say that I have to leave my entire backseat, uh, for just my son. And

607
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:18,320
then he requires, uh, with, you know, changes of clothes, food, et cetera, at least the

608
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:24,000
whole rest of the backseat. So to me, to me, I would say that that I get hung up on it

609
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,520
because it's a big deal. It is as far, you know what I mean? It's, it's, I get hung up

610
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:37,520
on it because it's a, it's a big detail. And depending on how I want to do things really

611
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:44,160
depends on how, you know, how, because we've like looked at different car seats to try

612
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:50,720
to fit behind Sienna so that I could delete or swap because part, there's like the two

613
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,160
person bench and like a single, and I was going to swap the two person bench to the

614
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,760
left and move the single to the right. And then, or, you know, or just delete the two

615
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,240
person and then move the single to the right. That way we could sit right behind Sienna.

616
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:14,280
But at that point, his feet are in the headrest and it's just very hard. So, well, we'll work

617
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:21,320
on it. It's not a big, it's not, you know, I like the challenge of it. And I think, I

618
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:28,320
think with just how I have it now, we can make it work. We just got to, like I said,

619
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:33,120
we're just going to move some stuff when we put the rooftop tent on. We're going to just

620
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:39,280
move some more stuff to the top. Plus I have a lot of stuff in the, like the Pelican and

621
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:46,840
stuff up top that I really don't need all the time. Like, and those are just like electrical,

622
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:53,480
the grinder, all those, all this bunch of spare tools that like never touched once this

623
00:59:53,480 --> 01:00:00,360
summer. So it was like, I mean, and I know you'll need them when you need them, but at

624
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,360
the same time.

625
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,120
The second you take something out, the next trip you will need it. Guaranteed.

626
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:09,680
Yeah. I mean, I have like a full electrical, like, you know, do an, do an electrical wiring

627
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:17,400
kit, multimeters, grinders, impact. I only hear things that you should keep in mind.

628
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,480
You'll be like, Oh look, there's this man in a boat here. Oh, let me just throw out

629
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,480
the garage next trip.

630
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,040
No, son of a bitch. I need it.

631
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,600
Oh no, I'm not saying that I should get rid of all of it. I'm just saying that I need

632
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:34,440
to move it or consolidate it to most used things. I mean, I run full kits. I've got

633
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:45,640
a grinder and impact, a drill, full electrical kit with a multimeter. I mean, if you're mostly

634
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,480
running in a group, I hate to say this, but you can kind of lean on other people a little

635
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,480
bit.

636
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:56,880
Yeah. That's where, that's where my game is. I was over preparing because I was doing a

637
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,480
lot of solo at first, but

638
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:05,320
I do very impulsive trips. Yeah. A bunch of solo stuff. I'm like, I'm bored. I'm going

639
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,240
to start driving North fucking now. That's pretty much what happened with what I was

640
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,200
wandering around, you know, over there. It's like, yeah, there's trails over here. I'm

641
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,600
kind of curious to see what they're like. I've heard about them. They write it up. I

642
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,040
can't, I don't even know where the hell I like found this map, but I'm like, well, I

643
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,760
downloaded these trails from fucking somewhere. Let's see what they look like.

644
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,080
Where did, how do you camp? I mean, I'm assuming you do the whole camping thing. Do you just

645
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,680
camp in the back of yours?

646
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,320
Yep. Twin mattress thrown in the back.

647
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Nice.

648
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:41,040
I have had a ground tent, I have had a rooftop tent, and I've now had this.

649
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,800
Yeah. Well, what do you, do you have any like certain preferences for cooking or anything

650
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,120
like that, or do you kind of run a pretty bare bones?

651
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,160
I have a basic, like camp stove and cookware and stuff. I usually don't bring it with me

652
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,280
unless I'm on like a long trip. If it's like a day or two, I usually don't really bother

653
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,240
to bring a whole lot of stuff with me because like screw it. Butter and jelly is fine, but

654
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:09,440
I do have cookware and stuff. But you know, that's basically reserved for the like three

655
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,360
or four plus day long, you know, trips when I'm in the middle of nowhere.

656
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:21,240
Yeah, no. We have a really good fridge that I like that. I mean, I do have a fridge that

657
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:26,640
is 100% like one of my favorite things to have because like being able to have food

658
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,080
where it's not fucking swimming in ice water is.

659
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:36,400
Oh yeah. I love it. I really enjoy that as well. But for the price of it, I think I'm

660
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,280
within the next two years, I'm going to switch to a different size because I think mine's

661
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,080
like a 39 quart or something like that.

662
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:55,520
Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Yeah, go ahead. I love my 44 quart packout cooler.

663
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:03,280
It is perfect for me. He's got a cooler. So me and Alex are team fridge versus team cooler.

664
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:11,840
So that's why I love having him as a friend and stuff and running around because he gives

665
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:18,840
very good, complete opposite views of everything that I that everything I do basically.

666
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:24,920
I love the opinion of coolers are fantastic for drinks. Fridges are fantastic for food.

667
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:31,000
Yeah. So like we did when we went down to Missouri, we just had my Milwaukee cooler.

668
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,440
We only had a small bag of ice and then it kept itself cold just based on the stuff we

669
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,440
put in it.

670
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,320
Yeah, like just freezing. We have a good cooler too. That makes a big difference. We have

671
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:47,600
like a really shitty like poorly insulated one that sucks. Yeah, I had like a thirty

672
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:53,560
five dollar one from Menards. It was hollow. That thing sucks balls. I didn't even have

673
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,920
much later. It's like film with spray foam. They're like actually pretty good. Yeah, I've

674
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:04,280
seen them. I've seen people do that. The Milwaukee one, I will say is top notch. I mean, you

675
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:10,560
pay for it was like two hundred and fifty fucking dollars, but it's a very, very good

676
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:18,600
fridge and it's very thick and very well insulated or fridge cooler. I had another one that I

677
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,840
think I paid a hundred for that I've been rocking for the last like ten years and it's

678
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:29,200
like one hundred and eight quart cooler and it it doesn't keep ice cold forever, but just

679
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,880
the bulk of shit you can carry in it was always fantastic.

680
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:41,960
Yeah, that's nice. I think my my biggest thing was the sweating and the soggy and the constant

681
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:47,920
like upkeep for us, because like I said, we were running a cheap cooler, so it was constant

682
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,660
draining and our lunch meat was always full of water. The eggs were always fucking water.

683
01:04:53,660 --> 01:04:57,760
Everything was cold. I like having a fridge just so I can stuff. You still have like a

684
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:03,760
cooler for drinks and then a fridge for whatever food I have. Yeah, I think that's probably

685
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,680
the best way. I think having a small drink cooler and then a fridge is probably the best

686
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,040
of both. You don't need like your bottled water or whatever in the fridge that should

687
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:18,400
be cooler. Because if it goes, oh no, my water is wet. Whatever will I do? Yeah, right. And

688
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,240
if you instead of using ice, if you freeze water bottles, that works really well too.

689
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:29,600
Yeah, I've done that before. Yeah. But then it's still sweats. And that's like that's

690
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:34,480
like the biggest thing that sucks for me. But yeah, other than that, no, I mean, it's

691
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,760
obviously it's livable. It's creature comforts. You know, at the end of the day, if I wanted

692
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:49,320
to live off of ramen and peanut butter sandwiches, I could. But I do. My wife is a foodie. She

693
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:56,280
likes to eat good food when we're out. And that's one of the winning with the winning

694
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,760
arguments that I have is that if she goes out camping with me, we will always eat decent

695
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:08,920
food on that subject. Gavin, I am looking at picking up a dehydrator so we can make our

696
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:16,680
own dehydrated meals. It pays for itself in about one trip with three people. Oh, yeah,

697
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:24,040
I figured. Dehydrated meals are great. I love dehydrated meals. I eat the crap out of dehydrated

698
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,240
meals. One thing I'm still trying to figure out the logistics of since, you know, I live,

699
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,760
you know, further south where, you know, the summer feels like hell outside day and night

700
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,320
is 12 volt air conditioning since 12 volt AC compressors went from being astronomically

701
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:43,400
expensive to just regular expensive. Trying to figure out a way to realistically have

702
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:50,920
a 12 volt AC setup for camping because 90 degrees at night with 70 percent humidity

703
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:56,400
kind of sucks. You just got to make your own. I mean, you're your engine. You are like smart

704
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:03,120
enough that you can make your own AC condenser and everything. And it's just a question of

705
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:10,440
where do I want to shove all this stuff in the way. Just grab an RV AC, put it on your

706
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:15,760
roof and build some kind of crazy cage for it to protect it. Yeah, thought about those,

707
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,960
but like, God, they're fucking expensive. And there's you can get them cheap in part

708
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:27,720
outs. Not too long ago, there was one for like 100 bucks. I just I just go in and find

709
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:33,440
some scrap yards or something and rip one out of there. That's really hasn't crossed

710
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,000
my mind before. I'll have to keep my eyes open because I would not be opposed to cutting

711
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:45,120
a hole in that, you know, my hard top because first gen for hard tops are not exactly difficult

712
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:50,240
to obtain. Right. Yeah, it wouldn't. I mean, it's not like it would take much either AC

713
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,680
wise. Now that's the other thing a bunch of people forget about too with AC. It's like

714
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:00,360
once you get to night, once you lose the heat load from the sun, you don't need nearly the

715
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:09,000
cooling path easy do in the day. Now I'm I like the idea of AC but I don't for Michigan

716
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,960
we don't need it. I have a battery powered fan that we had all summer that worked great

717
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:19,960
just to move some air around. It's not too bad at night even in the summer unless it's

718
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,520
like going through like heat wave or whatever. It's not real. Yeah, down here. Yeah, it's

719
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,560
not uncommon to have 90 degrees at night. Yeah, I couldn't do that. I have been burned

720
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:35,560
by that before. I am the biggest baby when it comes to heat. If it's like if when I go

721
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:41,800
to bed, if it's like above 75, I'm throwing a fucking temper tantrum. It's the other option,

722
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,720
which is the relatively easy one, but you know, would be inverter generator plus window

723
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:52,320
unit plumbed into, you know, your tent truck or fucking whatever. You know, the easiest

724
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:57,720
option that I haven't heard you say yet is a Milwaukee cooler with the lid open and a

725
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,800
battery powered fan pointing towards you. There's your usually what I do in the summer. It's

726
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:10,480
like, oh, I'm traveling south. Let's book a hotel. Yeah. What about don't they have

727
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:18,680
like AC or propane ACs? I know they have some really, they have some camping ACs. I don't

728
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:24,200
know if I've seen an actual like AC unit set up with that, but the you know, I don't see

729
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:29,760
why it wouldn't work because propane is a fantastic refrigerant with one downside. You

730
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:35,680
know, the incredible flammability. Yeah, but you're already in a car. I mean, come on.

731
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:42,320
I can't. I can't you just shake it up a little bit and just stuff it in your sleeping bag.

732
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:50,160
Yeah. Just let out some AC and shove the can and some propane and shove the can in your.

733
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:56,600
I don't know what I was using the when I was using the buddy heater on our trip. By the

734
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:02,320
time it took probably five minutes of that buddy heater running and that can started

735
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,760
getting cold. And then when it would go out, there was a complete frost all around it.

736
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:12,840
I know I'd have to unstick the can from the tent. That was propane and butane both work

737
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,920
really well as refrigerant. If you look around online, you can every now and again, you'll

738
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:22,040
find out there's a which is a butane propane blend that sold as a drop in replacement for

739
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:29,360
our 12. Not a huge fan of that stuff, but you know, it does have. I've done really well.

740
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:38,920
I've literally seen videos of guys replacing their AC stuff with propane as an AC snob.

741
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,480
I try to steer people away from that, but it absolutely will work as a refrigerant.

742
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:50,360
Yes, pure propane is a higher operating pressure than our 12 or our 134. So the people that

743
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,720
are dumping this into questionable condition leaking systems from the 80s. That's where

744
01:10:54,720 --> 01:11:00,800
I'm like, I don't know if I'd recommend this. Oh, yeah. That's why I usually steer people

745
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,760
away from like our 12 or just propane because nine times out of 10, it's someone shoving

746
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:11,160
in some fucking 40 year old original AC system. It said fucking nothing done to it. It's like

747
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:16,240
this is right. Especially since you're like, oh, well, there's like a gas tank. I mean,

748
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:21,320
like, dude, you put like four pounds of propane in your AC system. Like, there's a lot of

749
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:28,960
ships that can happen with that amount of flammable gas slash liquid. Oh, also, I was

750
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:40,480
trying to remember what the company was named. The zero breeze is the overland tax AC unit.

751
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:45,280
It costs probably as much as everything that you've ever done to your truck. I actually

752
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:53,160
just watched a video about how they're fucking terrible. Oh, well, see, this is what I'm

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saying. Every everything that I ever see that I think is like decent. Alex is like my opposing

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force. He helps keep me grounded because because I've seen like three videos and the guys are

755
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like, I love my zero breeze. I live in Arkansas. Yeah, I mean, I do a lot of research because

756
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:23,720
I'm kind of anti the whole overland tax thing. Oh, so I heavily look into that stuff because

757
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I always think, man, I can build that for less than what they're charging. Yeah, I rarely

758
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:35,880
buy anything that has the word over leaning attached to it. Right now. I think I don't

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know what it is. I think it's like some algorithm bullshit because I try to vet out these two

760
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and look like I will literally go on to YouTube and look up. For instance, I will look up

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zero breeze problems, zero breeze issues. I will look that up and go through shit like

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that and then still come out with like a better opinion of it as an overall than like and

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then but then somehow like like Alex will find something that's like, like super fucked

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up about it. I'm like, what the fuck? Like I spend hours on this. I have no idea. By

765
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the way, this thing has this like huge inherent like design flaw that makes it terrible. Yeah,

766
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it's like I will look for hours. I look for videos of people talking dog shit on it. And

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then somehow it never fails. You know, at times I bought it's the equivalent of this

768
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is good. And then I immediately go, oh, look, there's this big fucking like expensive ticking

769
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,640
time bomb in it that yeah, good. Find the fucking thing about until I fucking bought

770
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,880
it. It's the equivalent of me like walking outside and going, oh, fuck, the sky is really

771
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:51,480
blue today. And then Alex was like, actually, it's not. I learned like having chain problems

772
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when I dropped an oil pan and found plastic chunks in the bottom of like, the fuck is

773
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this? Like, oh, yeah, don't you know, like all 22 hours at like 200,000 miles will like

774
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:06,160
need a timing chain like desperately. I'm like, no, I fucking didn't know this. And

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the other thing was zero breeze, not to like jump back on it is apparently their customer

776
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service is like hot fucking dog shit. What was the main place is it'll sell like a premium

777
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,800
like ultra expensive product. And then some of these they have like atrocious customer

778
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service that is like that to me. I'm like customer service is like 80 percent of like

779
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:37,780
retaining customers and sales. Like I can't understand how people. Yeah. What? Save $200

780
01:14:37,780 --> 01:14:45,080
if I buy zero breeze from Wal-Mart. Thanks. So I want it. It's like why I don't buy Samsung

781
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:51,600
products anymore because their customer service is the absolute frickin worse.

782
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:59,440
I feel like you're different because you use Samsung. How or you use products differently

783
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than 90 percent of the population does. You know what I mean? Like I use it. Everyone

784
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:10,080
just kind of learned like, oh, we like don't really need decent customer service anymore.

785
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We can just get away without it. Like simultaneously, like every big corporation learned they could

786
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,960
just get away with absolutely atrocious customer service.

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So back in 2018, I bought a Samsung Galaxy Book or Notebook, whatever, Pro 9, like super

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expensive laptop, right? Like $1800 computer. I used it for three weeks. Didn't like just

789
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played a couple of games on it, used it for basic web browsing, didn't even put Linux

790
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on it. I left frickin Windows on it and it just fucking died. So I did some research

791
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:52,040
and it turns out that the graphics card in it likes to fry and short out two pins. So

792
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:58,160
I sent it to Samsung to get repaired and it bounced back and forth between us four times.

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And they kept saying, well, it's your fault because we found a crumb in this speaker grill.

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And then they sent it back to me. And then another time, well, in the charger port, we

795
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:14,720
found some dust and that could cause the problem. And I'm like, you guys are fucking terrible.

796
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:21,680
Well then not even three months later, my brand new Samsung TV that I spent $800 on

797
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the filter behind it cracked and it turned black. And mind you, this is just a TV hanging

798
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:33,760
on the wall. And I messaged Samsung about it and they're like, well, what did we looked

799
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up your area and there were some minor environmental vibrations and that is enough to void your

800
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warranty.

801
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,560
Yeah, see, I've never had these issues like this is what I did. All right. So Alex having

802
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:54,720
all these issues of Samsung, I've had Samsung my whole fucking life basically in one way

803
01:16:54,720 --> 01:17:01,760
or another. And other than me killing my own phones physically on accident, I've never

804
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:06,440
had issues. Oh, I have a completely different category. Well, like even my like I had a

805
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:13,320
Samsung TV still works now. It's fucking probably five years old now. Like I just accept the

806
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,600
tablets, pretty much electronics nowadays. I just assume that like as soon as you buy

807
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:24,920
it, expect to get shafted by the warranty. Yeah, I mean, yes, absolutely. It's just like

808
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:31,080
like my S I've like I'd ask 22 S 22 Ultra or something like that. And this thing is

809
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:37,000
fucking stellar. But I've never me and see and I've never had any issues with Samsung

810
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,840
to where we were. I'm never using it again. I'm sitting here looking at my two Samsung

811
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:47,120
monitors that my old roommate bought and one of them, half of it flashes every like two

812
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,040
and a half minutes. And I'm like, why did he buy Samsung displays and why did I get

813
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:57,500
stuck with them? It's funny. I just I think you're just technology cursed. 2016 still

814
01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:02,640
works beautifully. This is one of the cheapest four K monitors you could buy back then. It

815
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:07,600
still works perfectly. I think I think Alex is just technology cursed. I really do. It's

816
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:12,560
not it's not everything. I mean, my Fairphone is fantastic. I bought a phone specifically

817
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,240
to be able to repair it. And then I never had a reason to repair it. Those things are

818
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:26,560
sweet. I don't know. Yeah, the one actual like technology company I've had that I like

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01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:32,040
refused to do business with now for my own personal experiences is MSI. I have it's I've

820
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,840
had so many fucking dead MSI motherboards. I'm just not going to fucking play this game

821
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:43,080
anymore. And I'm sitting here looking at my one MSI motherboard that never died thinking,

822
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:51,640
man, don't you die on me now. I had fucking five that were dead. Five. I have also had

823
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,800
a lot. Yeah, I kept ending up with a serious motherboards. It's like I'm not in love with

824
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,000
them. But like the deals kept being too good for me to say no. And they've pretty much

825
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:06,200
just worked. So I'm like, you know what, this is actually now that you say that I actually

826
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:12,160
think that I had. Oh, I don't have Neo Fetch installed on here. What the hell? Um, I'm

827
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:17,920
pretty sure that I ended up with a gigabit motherboard because I think my last MSI they

828
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:24,400
couldn't replace it. Giga bites decent. Yeah, it's a good time that we're selling power

829
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:29,760
supplies that would explode and kill your video card and your card shortage. That was

830
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:36,560
amusing. But hey, dude, that is all the time we have. We're actually over by about 20 minutes.

831
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So I'm not surprised. Yeah, we will have to get you on again because this has been a great

832
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:48,320
time. Yeah. Yeah. As a regular. Have you come on every once in a while here? And yeah, there's

833
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,720
always there's always planning to talk about whether it's computers or cars like, oh God,

834
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:59,920
yes, I can talk about anything. Damn near continuously. And now I get to go plow my

835
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:07,800
frickin farm drive. Hell yeah. Oh yeah. I think I'm going to eat my taco bell and and

836
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that'll be pretty much the end of my night. I have probably another two or three hours

837
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:22,000
of work. Yay. But I'll probably get this episode. I'll probably get this episode out to Thursday

838
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:27,920
night. So just I guess just listen for all listeners that now heard me say that this

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one will be late even though you got it late. Yeah. Busy times right now. But all right,

840
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I'll catch you guys later. Yeah. We'll see you later.