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Welcome to Botch's Offroad.

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Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tank camping to

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rock landing, and everything to do with the outdoors.

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Today's show is pretty different.

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Our guest doesn't go wheeling every weekend.

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He doesn't have any crazy trail stories, but he has seat time and more off-road vehicles

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than any of us combined.

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We are very excited to welcome Zach from Shooting Cars onto the pod.

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Thanks for having me.

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How's it going, Zach?

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Looking forward to it.

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Doing well.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I figured you'd be a pretty fun one to interview.

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I hope I live up to it.

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I actually have, I don't know how interested you guys would be, but I actually have a Tacoma

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trail hunter in the driveway right now.

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And can I, if I text you a video, would you be able to play the sound through the podcast?

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I think Alex could edit that in.

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I could edit it in.

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Let me see if I could send it to you.

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I know androids and apples sometimes don't play, but I put a microphone on the snorkel

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and it makes some pretty good turbo noises from the factory, which I was pretty happy

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with.

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Okay, yeah.

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You could send it to me on Messenger.

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Yeah.

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I was about to say, because recently everyone's been trying to figure out if what they've

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been hearing is actually real audio or just people putting turbo noises over the audio

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clips.

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No, I promise you it's real.

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It's kind of faint inside, but I have a magnetic microphone that I put on the snorkel itself

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and it's pretty wild.

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Let me see if I could find the clip.

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It's too large for messenger to send.

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Oh, that is so dumb.

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Well, I'll find a way to send it to you.

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Maybe get at it in post or something like that.

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Google drive would work.

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All right.

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We can figure that out in the podcast.

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I don't want to jam it up, but it's real.

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Editor Alex coming at you.

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I got the audio recording from Zach was shooting cars.

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I am going to put that here and then we'll get back to the interview.

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Yeah, they aside from what is the engine and transmission problems people have been having,

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but they're pretty slick looking trucks, man.

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So the trail hunter that got dropped off this morning, it's pretty cool.

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I'll send you pictures in the Google drive as well.

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It has an integrated light bar in the front grill that only comes out if you turn your

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high beams on, which is pretty cool.

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It has fog lights that are led that you can actually change the color of.

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So there's a button where you could do orange or white LEDs, yellow or white.

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The land.

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Yeah, same thing.

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Ambers built in Ambers.

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That is sick.

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It's got a bunch of rigid industries stuff on it and it's really cool.

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I'll send you pictures, but yeah.

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So you see you've been in the new Broncos.

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You've been in the Jeeps, all of them.

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Man, how many cars?

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Because last time I when I saw you last, you were hitting episode 600.

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Where are you at now?

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I think we're just past 1600.

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Jesus, dude.

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So yeah, I've reviewed over 1600 cars, which I mean spans the oldest car I've done is a

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1919 and the newest car is obviously a 2025.

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So it spans all different kinds of cars.

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It's not strictly off road, but it's a lot of off road cars, a lot of classic cars, little

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roadsters.

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I mean, what have you so but yeah, obviously here to talk about off roading stuff, which

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I don't have the most experience with, but I love talking to people that actually do

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know what they're talking about because it's a lot of fun.

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Oh dude, we can talk about anything.

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We were an off road podcast in name only.

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So see, what was the first video I saw from you?

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It was the SVT contour that you did up in Big Rapids.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, I just told a story about that car.

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I think on another podcast, the collector car feed podcast, that is one of two videos

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I've ever made where I was severely hung over in the video.

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I think I took two cold showers that morning and I was like, oh crap, I got to film this

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SVT contour because all my friends went to Ferris State University in Big Rapids.

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And so and it's a huge automotive school.

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So the night before my buddy was like, hey, I have this SVT contour.

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You should review it tomorrow.

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And I was like, cool, gotcha.

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Let's do it.

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And then the night progressed and I forgot about it and woke up in the morning and he

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was like, hey, we still get to film the contour.

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And I was like, oh no.

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This is editor Alex coming at you.

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We have a very brief loss of connection right here.

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It happens again a little later on.

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I'm not really sure what caused this first one, but you know, yeah, we'll get back to

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Oh, he's back.

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I could hear you that whole time.

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I don't know what happened.

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That was weird.

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Weird.

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Apology.

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You have to edit stuff.

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Oh, you're good.

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I don't mind.

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It was actually really funny because you post or you film that video while I lived in Big

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Rapids and there's a small part where I'm 95% sure I see my truck.

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Really?

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That's awesome.

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You know, that happens every once in a while.

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Someone will be like, hey, you filmed this on my street and I have to go, oh, okay.

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It's very weird how small the car world becomes.

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I think because I had a civic sigh back then and I can't remember.

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Did you email me about it?

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I did.

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Was it an EP3?

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It was.

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I remember this email.

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I remember that.

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And then I think I reached back out and then I think that's when you had the Quad 442,

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right?

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Gotcha.

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Because you know what's funny?

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I was just thinking about that.

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I just filmed my first EP3 probably three months ago and I thought about your email and I was

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like, man, I never followed up with that guy in Big Rapids, but it turns out I actually

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did.

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You did?

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That's funny.

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I really miss that little car, man.

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That was an awesome little car.

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You know, it's an unloved generation of the SI.

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I really, really loved it.

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The one I drove was pretty beat up, but even it, that's the nice thing about Honda's.

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Even when they're, they have the snot kicked out of them, they're still so fun.

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And that just can't be said about American cars.

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I don't know.

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I've seen some beat up Mustangs that are just so fun.

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Mustang's fair.

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I was thinking more like an 02 Cavalier.

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If it gets the snot kicked out of it, that is a dog.

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No, but yeah, the EP3, one of my favorite memories was we got a really big snow storm

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and I had a truck, but for whatever reason, I decided to take the EP3 out and I would

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put it in first and get up to third gear and then just throw it in reverse on the ice and

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do a pit remove.

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That's awesome.

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I love those things.

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Just it didn't care.

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I could just beat on it and it was just happy and kept going.

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Man, it's just something about Japanese.

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Same with Toyotas, as I'm sure you guys know.

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I mean, older Toyotas, they just, they take an ass kicking and it's, it's nice.

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It's one of the best parts of the car.

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Whenever we actually get to get you in the seat of mine, you'll see it's had the shit

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kicked out of it, but she just keeps going.

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I'm excited for it.

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I need to come up to Michigan and we need to, we need to film something soon.

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Hopefully maybe in the spring when the snow has passed and it's not absolutely miserable

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to be filming.

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Dude, come up in the snow when it's absolutely miserable.

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We'll do some snow wheeling.

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Like right now.

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It's actually, is it snowy up there?

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Oh, dude, where are we?

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Oh, wow.

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Oh geez.

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That's why our third co-host isn't on.

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He realized he was out of diapers at the last minute.

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Oh geez.

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Yeah, dude, we got to definitely got to do that because we tried once and my lower ball

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joint failed.

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I remember, cause you were coming through Illinois if I remember correctly, right?

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We're, we did a like 13 or 1400 mile trip and just happened to be going down pretty

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close to you.

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And I was like, Hey man, in the middle of this, would you like to do a quick review?

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And then like an hour later you're like, well, and it was just a picture of the car on the

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ground.

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And I was like, Oh, that's not good.

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We were only like 30 or 40 miles from you at that time.

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If I remember correctly though, I think something came up that day, which, so it all ended up

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working out.

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I think like someone in my family came up, I had to go to my grandparents for some reason

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and check on them.

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And so it all like ended up working out.

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Cause like I would have been off filming and not gotten the text message or whatever.

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So yeah, we'll, we'll definitely set something up again.

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Um, because I still haven't done a third gen forerunner.

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It's the only forerunner I haven't done.

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I keep watching you post like all your forerunner videos.

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I'm always like, man, still not a third gen.

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Well and I'm super excited because I got the privilege of being invited to the fifth gen

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reveal.

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Is that the fifth gen?

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The new one?

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Sixth gen.

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Oh, is it sixth gen?

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Oh geez.

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Sixth gen, yep.

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Sixth gen for Tacomas.

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So Toyota is actually flying me down to San Diego in January to go drive the new forerunner

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before it's released.

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Dude, we gotta get you up here to do the third gen before then.

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Yeah, we could definitely set.

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I haven't planned out my January yet.

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But I know that trip is January 21st.

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So I could get some seat time before that.

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It'd be cool to release the Tacoma Trail Hunter, the third gen and the sixth gen all like together.

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I think that'd be kind of cool.

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And you could honestly do two third gens because I've got that almost OEM one too.

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I would love to do that and then just probably hold on to the Haggard one for a couple of

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weeks or months and then put that out separately as this sort of Grinch style video.

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Oh, my daily being called Haggard.

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Well, you sent me one that was real chopped up.

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Oh, the crawler.

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Oh, yeah.

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That one's all cut apart.

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No, I'm talking about like, yeah, I've got, so I've got a silver one and a black one.

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I think I sent you a picture recently.

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So I've got those two for you to do a review on, but the blue one, the crawler, we just

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tore that one apart.

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That's what I was thinking of.

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I thought that was your daily.

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And I was like, is that not Haggard?

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No.

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There you go.

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I just sent you a picture of my daily on text message.

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Okay, gotcha.

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That blue one, man, that thing was so ratchet.

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Like, don't get me wrong, the dude built it well.

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It's got long travel.

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Everything's been beefed up, lockers front and rear, twin stick.

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I mean, it had all the stuff, but he just didn't care about it.

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Yeah.

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Man, I, the amount of time, if I had a dollar for every car reviewed where it was a nice

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car, but the owner just didn't care, man, I wouldn't have to make YouTube videos anymore.

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I swear.

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Like the one that sticks out to me is the 350Z that you reviewed.

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Oh God, which one?

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Oh, you've done more than one?

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Oh yeah.

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Well, I did a 07 convertible, 07 HR, and I did an 04 Nissan 350.

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Jeez, that's coming up on seven years ago, eight years ago.

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Maybe that's the one I'm thinking of.

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I also did a Nismo, but the Nismo had like 30,000 miles on it.

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So I think that was the 04.

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Yeah, that was a high school friend.

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It was, I think he had a Pokemon shift knob, if I remember correctly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that was like, that was a quintessential high school car.

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It was plaster dipped.

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It had obnoxious seats, obnoxious shifter.

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Yeah.

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But there have been cars that have been way worse than that.

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I reviewed a car that a guy was actively living in.

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Like that was his only domicile was one of the cars.

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What was it?

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I don't want to out the guy with the video, but it was an older, older car.

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Like it was a 1970s to 80s car.

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And it was actually up in Detroit and it just had a bunch of laundry in it.

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And I was like, all right, this is weird.

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And he met me at a park and then, which was fun.

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Like I had people meet me in public all the time.

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Like I get it.

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Like, you know, meeting a guy off the internet, inviting him to your house, you know, right

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off the rip is kind of weird.

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So it's pretty common to meet people in public.

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So I was like, okay, sure, whatever.

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And then he ended up emailing me a couple months later and he was like, Hey man, like,

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you know, thanks for making the video because that was my living situation.

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And I was like, Oh geez.

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Okay.

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So he was like, I have an apartment now and he has a job now and all that stuff.

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So yeah, I mean, I have reviewed the gamut of cars.

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What's always been unique about your channel to me is, you know, regular car review, maybe

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not so much him, but like that dude in blue, they're always these almost, I don't want

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to say perfect examples, but very exceptional examples of whatever he's reviewing.

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Whereas with you, you don't care.

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You're reviewing anything and get your hands on.

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And we see some really cool stuff because of it.

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Yeah.

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It, you know, I don't limit myself to any shape or condition.

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Obviously there've been a handful of cars that I've turned down for safety concerns.

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I literally drove an E 30 BMW where the, the transmission was held in with self tappers.

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It was non registered.

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It wasn't insured.

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And the springs had been removed and replaced with hockey pucks.

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Oh, it was, it was bad, bad, bad.

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And funny enough, I actually ended up doing that review, but ever since then I'm like,

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all right, I gotta have some type of base level here.

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So like, I always tell people like it has to be registered and insured.

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It has to be like a legal vehicle unless we're on private property, which I've done some

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videos on private property.

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But yeah, I mean, my thinking is that I'll review the crappy version now and the good

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version will come later because nine times out of 10, I will post a video of a car that's

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in terrible condition.

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Exhibit A, I did a Chrysler LeBaron convertible and this car, I mean, the seats were supposed

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to be tan.

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They were black.

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I remember this one.

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There was, it was red.

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The, the top didn't work.

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The windows didn't work.

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It was awful.

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I released that video that night.

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This guy who ended up living a town over from me emailed me and he said, I can't believe

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you would review that trash, that garbage.

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That was a sin to LeBaron's.

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I have this like 40,000 mile teal LeBaron, like come drive this one.

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So then I did a review of this like really low mileage, like factory clean LeBaron out

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of the crappy LeBaron video.

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So that usually ends up happening.

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So I'm not too worried about the condition.

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And there's a lot of times that that's part of the story too.

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I drove a 1964 Cadillac ambulance that literally had sat in a field since the nineties.

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They put some ether in the intake, got it to fire over and then called me up.

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And the next day I drove it.

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Like it had been sitting in a field for 20 years, the day before I drove it.

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And that was cool.

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There was active moss growing on the rear tailgate, but that's part of that car's story,

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you know?

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So stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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It's like I said, that's what really to me sets your channel apart.

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That and your little video documentary things.

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Those are pretty spectacular.

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Thank you.

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I love doing them.

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It's really fun for me because I just have that kind of personality where like if I learn

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about something, I just dive into it one night.

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And a lot of those scripts I end up writing in one night, but it's just like six hours

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of me just like researching and reading books and all this stuff.

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But they're just, they're a lot of work to put together.

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Oh, I believe it.

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But they're a lot of fun.

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They're really rewarding as well.

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I will say your Jeep duck and Jeep wave episode, we had Jeep ducks way before that situation

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in Canada.

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Really?

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So back in, see, I had my TJ in 2017, 2016 and 2017.

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And we played a game called Duck Duck Jeep, where you'd see a Jeep.

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It was mostly on the rslash Jeep page.

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You'd see a Jeep, you'd put the duck on there and they were it.

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There were maybe 500 ducks and we passed them around the community.

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Gotcha.

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Huh.

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But I, yeah.

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That history is just so twisted for some reason.

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Maybe I came from a different timeline.

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Maybe because I couldn't find any reference to, I searched for like, it always makes

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me laugh because I searched these old forum posts and it's just like all like image not

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found photo bucket images that are not found.

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And it's just like searching, searching, searching.

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And I couldn't find a reference older than 2020.

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I was looking too.

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Maybe you were from a different timeline.

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That's so funny.

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Yeah.

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If I go to rslash Jeep, maybe I can find something.

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Yeah.

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And please send it my way.

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The interesting thing about that, that actually happened since I posted that video.

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It happened, oh God, maybe two weeks ago.

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The boyfriend of the girl who started the Jeep thing up in Canada actually DMed me.

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And he was like, thank you so much for doing the video and speaking light because the girl

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actually passed away this summer.

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Right.

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Who had started it.

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And so he was like, oh, thank you for the kind words.

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Like it would have meant a lot to her.

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And then thank you for the video.

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So it's a really cool, again, small world moment where I was like, oh wow.

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Like it actually reached like the people that, you know, quote unquote started it, which

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was really cool.

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Yeah.

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That was, it was really sad that she passed away, especially since she reinvigorated something

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that I was pretty fond of way back when.

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Yeah.

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100%.

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Yeah, we can talk off air, but I have the guy's contact info.

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If you guys would like to try to get him on the podcast to talk about what she was like

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and, and sort of more info in that story, I can definitely pass that along.

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You know, that could actually be a really cool episode.

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I know we've got a couple of Jeep listeners that would appreciate it.

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Yeah.

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100%.

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Yeah.

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After this, just remind me and I'll see if I can grab his, his contact info.

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Make sure you ask him first.

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I don't want to just, yeah, no, 100%.

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Yeah.

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I wouldn't have you just cold call him or whatever it is.

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Cause people do that to me all the time where they're like, Hey, this guy has cool cars.

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You should ask him to review it.

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And I'm like, well, like who, like, does he know who I am?

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And they're like, no.

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And I'm like, okay, cool.

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So I'm just cold calling this, you know, 80 year old guy that has a secret car collection.

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Very, very cool.

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Okay.

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00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:33,780
So on a little different note, I got to know how did you get started working with dealerships?

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So it was all kind of a natural evolution, right?

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So I started filming cars.

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Well first of all, I started building cars.

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I had old RX sevens or I had an old RX seven at the time.

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It was only one at that point.

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You still have one, right?

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I don't anymore.

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I sold it 2022.

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Yeah.

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I sold it at the end of 2022 and I miss it dearly, but my life right now just isn't open to a

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project car.

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That's like the icon of your channel.

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I know.

446
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And spoiler alert, the intro, this is a world exclusive.

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The intro of my reviews for 2025 actually is the sound of my RX seven.

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Because that's why I started my channel with.

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But it was costing me five, six, $700 a video just to make one video.

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Because it was, to do the cooling system, well the radiator was 350 and all the coolant

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was 100 and the new piping was 200 and finding all these vintage parts.

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And it was so hard to make a single video.

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And I was a high schooler.

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So I was like, I have zero budget.

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So I thought, how can I start making more?

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Because I really truly love the process of making the videos.

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I love the editing.

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I like adjusting the thumbnail till it's right.

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I love meeting people and driving cool cars and all that stuff.

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So I was like, how can I keep making videos?

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Well, I'll do car reviews, big influences like Doug DiMiro, that dude in blue.

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Regular car reviews of which I'm actually now friends with that dude in blue and regular

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car reviews.

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They're super, super nice.

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And it's really cool to like, yeah.

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I thought I saw you had met that dude in blue.

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I cannot think of what his name is.

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David.

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Yes, thank you.

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I actually have a video with him coming out in a couple of days, I think.

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He took me in a GR Corolla for a lap around Charlotte Motor Speedway.

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Oh yeah, that's sick.

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We have a little, a fun little video soon that's coming out.

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I don't know when you'll post this, but that'll be December 14th.

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I have a video with that dude in blue coming out.

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But basically I asked my parents, I asked my grandparents, I was like, hey, can I borrow

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your car for a little bit to make a video?

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And I did that for a while, but then I was like, well, if I want to take this seriously,

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if I want it to be my full-time job, I have to treat it like a full-time job.

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So I need more cars.

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So at the time I had, I think it was like maybe 10,000 subscribers.

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So I was like, I was still, well, I still am a small fish in a big pond or whatever.

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But I was like, manufacturers aren't going to send me anything.

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I don't have the following for that.

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So what can I do?

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I can go to dealerships and offer, basically offer up free advertising if I can just borrow

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the car for an hour.

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And I went to 14 dealerships in one day, which luckily in the town that I grew up in, they

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were all on one street.

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So it was, excuse me, it was one winter day.

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It was in December of 2018.

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I just drove down the street and I stopped at every single dealership and I made up a,

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I printed out all these resumes and put them in giant folders and like those like little

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clasp folders that I got at the dollar store.

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And I went to every single dealership and I gave them a resume and said, Hey, I would

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need a car for an hour.

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You would get free advertising.

498
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I would get a video.

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It's completely free to you.

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I get content from my channel and that's it.

501
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And seriously like out of a movie, the first 13 dealerships said no, which was fair.

502
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:40,900
I mean, I was a kid.

503
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,700
I was like, I didn't call ahead.

504
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:47,540
I would just walk into every dealership and go, Hey, can I talk to your manager?

505
00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:49,980
And they're like, uh, okay.

506
00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:54,100
So like, you know, kind of the Karen approach.

507
00:27:54,100 --> 00:28:01,100
But the last dealership I went to was the Toyota dealership and they're like, Oh yeah,

508
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:03,260
100% that's that's it's free to us.

509
00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:05,300
And I was like, yeah, it's free.

510
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:06,300
So they're like, cool.

511
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,940
Like, and I think I filmed a video like the next day there.

512
00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:15,900
And I lucked out because that dealership actually owned a Chevy dealership and Alexis dealership

513
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:16,900
in the same town.

514
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:18,700
So it's kind of a threefold.

515
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:19,700
Yeah.

516
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:21,460
So I started off with that.

517
00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:29,820
And then once I, once I had filmed probably for like two or three months at that dealership,

518
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:37,060
I started emailing other dealerships and saying, Hey, I did this for Toyota of Naperville.

519
00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:39,580
I could do this for you too.

520
00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:44,140
And a lot of dealerships said no again, but a few more said yes.

521
00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:46,140
And then a few more said yes.

522
00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:51,980
And there was a point where I was working with about 20 area dealerships in any given

523
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:55,580
week, which was huge for sourcing cars.

524
00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:56,580
Yeah.

525
00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:57,900
Yeah, for sure.

526
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,140
I mean, and to me, it's really fun watching your newer content.

527
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:04,340
Just, you know, I've been a subscriber for what?

528
00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:06,020
Seven, eight years now.

529
00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:08,220
Like it's been a while.

530
00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:09,220
Years and years and years.

531
00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:10,220
Yeah.

532
00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:14,900
And, you know, I don't, I don't watch every video, but I watch probably one or two a week

533
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:19,780
and I can drastically see a difference in quality from when you started or, you know,

534
00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:24,660
when I started following you to now, I mean, they're loads better, dude.

535
00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:31,220
And I really think that having those dealerships to just have new cars all the time like that,

536
00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:34,340
it's really, really helped your, your style grow.

537
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:36,100
Oh, a hundred percent.

538
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,820
And that's the big thing too.

539
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:41,660
Like I, I still hope that one day I will be good at this.

540
00:29:41,660 --> 00:29:46,820
Like that, that's still the, the idea in my head is that one day I'll actually be okay

541
00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:51,620
at reviewing cars and that this is all still just a building process because it is.

542
00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:57,060
And I hope in three years, I'm going to look back on the videos I made now and say, wow,

543
00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:59,300
those were terrible, but now I'm better.

544
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:04,180
Because I watch a video from four or five years ago and it's, it's, I can't watch it.

545
00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:07,620
It's unpalatable.

546
00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:08,620
I watched.

547
00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:09,620
Yeah.

548
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:12,900
See, what video did I watch from yours yesterday?

549
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:14,220
The 98 Ram.

550
00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:15,780
That's what nine years old.

551
00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:17,420
Oh, gee.

552
00:30:17,420 --> 00:30:19,500
That was okay.

553
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:27,460
So that was my technically second review, but the first one I ever filmed was my night

554
00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:30,020
was my white 98 Ram.

555
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:31,900
That was the car that I had at the time.

556
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:37,780
I think it, I'm trying to think now, maybe I filmed that first and released it second

557
00:30:37,780 --> 00:30:41,220
or I filmed it second and released it first.

558
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:44,520
I can't remember now, but yeah, that was one of the earliest earliest ones.

559
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,700
That is awful.

560
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,220
That video is so bad.

561
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:54,620
I had no microphone, so I recorded with a GoPro and then I had a flip video camera in

562
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:55,620
my lap.

563
00:30:55,620 --> 00:31:01,300
And if you watch the video, which I cannot recommend you watch the video, please do not.

564
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:05,740
But if you, for some reason, if you're a masochist and love self-hatred and want to watch the

565
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:13,140
video, um, my, the, the sound and the video lose sync with one another periodically throughout

566
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:14,800
the video.

567
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,060
So there's times where my mouth is moving and there's no voice coming out and vice

568
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:20,100
versa.

569
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:26,620
And also I think I put like a dead mouse song in the background.

570
00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:28,180
I mean that is like the dump.

571
00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:32,620
Like I could not imagine a dumber thing to do today than that.

572
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:37,780
But I always tell people when they want to start YouTube, just make a video.

573
00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:40,060
Your first video is going to suck.

574
00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:42,660
Your second video is going to suck.

575
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:46,780
But your third video might be a little bit better than those first two.

576
00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:51,100
And your fourth video is hopefully better than the first three and so on.

577
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:56,180
So I appreciate you saying that because literally all of this is I'm just trying to make a better

578
00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:58,360
video than the one I just posted.

579
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,480
That's my whole goal.

580
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,460
I can definitely say that works with podcasts too, because if you listen to our first two

581
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:07,340
episodes, who was it a little rough?

582
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:09,340
Yes, it was.

583
00:32:09,340 --> 00:32:12,940
It was frable, but you need those first episodes to start off.

584
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:16,220
You need a jumping off point and then you can always improve from there.

585
00:32:16,220 --> 00:32:21,460
But there's so many people that are scared of that first episode that they'll never get

586
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:22,740
a second episode.

587
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:24,380
You know what I mean?

588
00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:26,140
You definitely should.

589
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:30,580
Maybe I'll send you a little sound bite from our unreleased episode, the very first one

590
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:31,580
recorded.

591
00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:34,740
The sound quality was so bad.

592
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:36,740
Sure.

593
00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:38,340
But that's how you learn.

594
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:42,980
And you can tweak it from here and there in the same respect of, I've always thought,

595
00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:51,060
oh, I should get, I should buy this $3,000 camera that can shoot 240 frames a second.

596
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:57,140
But not once have I ever gotten a comment of like, oh, the camera quality is not good.

597
00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:59,780
You know what I mean?

598
00:32:59,780 --> 00:33:05,840
I can honestly say that you're, especially probably the last two years, your video quality

599
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,540
is spectacular.

600
00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:09,540
Thank you.

601
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:10,540
I appreciate that.

602
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:16,020
But in this, in the same vein for years, people would say, oh, this audio quality is bad.

603
00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,020
So I've stepped up.

604
00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:19,980
I've invested the money in better microphones.

605
00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:24,540
I used to mount the microphone on the windshield, which in hindsight is a very dumb thing to

606
00:33:24,540 --> 00:33:31,040
do because every single vibration is recorded through the, so, so I moved to lapel mics

607
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,220
and that was better, but they were wired and every three months a wire would tear and I'd

608
00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:39,180
have to buy another $60 microphone.

609
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:45,260
And then early last year, I moved to a wireless rechargeable microphone and that's been the

610
00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:46,600
latest iteration.

611
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,740
Maybe in two years, I'll have a microphone that's inside my mouth for the clearest quality

612
00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:53,260
possible or something like that.

613
00:33:53,260 --> 00:33:56,100
They rip out your tooth and then give you a microphone.

614
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
Yeah.

615
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:02,660
Yeah, I just, and then I just won't have eyes, I'll have two 4k cameras and it'll be all

616
00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:06,380
POV and that's just hell yeah.

617
00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:11,220
So your current mic's what a road bike?

618
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:15,420
My current mic is a DJI mic too.

619
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:18,260
I believe it's wireless.

620
00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:23,380
It's two 50 for two of them and they have like an air pod style case where their case

621
00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:25,380
also charges them.

622
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:31,580
I was very hesitant to go wireless for many, many years because I was always worried about

623
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:37,900
interference, but honestly, I've been using them for, well, the last year and a half and

624
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:41,300
I've never had a single instance of interference.

625
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:46,460
It's just been me forgetting to hit record or like personal error, which happens more

626
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:49,440
than I would like to admit.

627
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,220
Those have the little magnet lapel thing, right?

628
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:57,740
Yes, so that's what I used to record that Tacoma video was the magnetic mic, which has

629
00:34:57,740 --> 00:35:02,340
been super helpful for like exhaust and intake and stuff like that.

630
00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:03,340
Yeah.

631
00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:08,740
I can say that probably in the last year, your sound quality is, like I said, man, your

632
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:10,380
videos just keep getting better.

633
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:11,380
Thank you.

634
00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:13,900
I appreciate that and that's the goal.

635
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:19,780
Although I will say a little inside baseball, it hasn't come out yet, but December 13th,

636
00:35:19,780 --> 00:35:23,620
I have a 1986 Dodge Ram Charger coming out.

637
00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:25,980
Oh, hell yeah.

638
00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:30,980
I forgot to hit record on the microphone and so that's just GoPro audio, but that's just

639
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:32,980
between you and me.

640
00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:35,780
We'll see how many people notice.

641
00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:36,780
Yeah.

642
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:38,340
Don't say anything in the comments.

643
00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:39,780
I want to see if anyone notices.

644
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:42,020
The audio, it's passable.

645
00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:46,780
It's fine, but if you watch it back to back with any other video, you will notice that

646
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:49,380
it sounds like inside a fish tank.

647
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:50,380
Yeah.

648
00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:57,980
So, another gear shift here so we can keep it going.

649
00:35:57,980 --> 00:36:03,500
I can think of probably 10 or 11 off-road vehicles I've seen you review in the last

650
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:05,380
couple of years.

651
00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:07,660
Which one was your favorite?

652
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:11,140
Oh, jeez.

653
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:17,740
I mean, what immediately jumps out at me is the 392 Wrangler.

654
00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:20,660
That was a great one.

655
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:24,260
Just I mean, that vehicle, it's just the complete package.

656
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:32,340
It had the power sky roof or whatever they call it, the freedom roof or whatever.

657
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:36,180
And I mean, it had the exhaust button and every time I got in the car, just hit the

658
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:39,540
exhaust button and it just, it gurgled and popped.

659
00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:42,180
It was so good.

660
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:44,540
I had the Bronco Raptor.

661
00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:49,820
I didn't love it, especially for the price tag.

662
00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:53,300
That seems to be pretty tracking with what I've been hearing.

663
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:54,300
Yeah.

664
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:55,300
Well, here's the thing.

665
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:59,540
Why couldn't Ford just put the five liter Coyote into it?

666
00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:00,940
Right.

667
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:01,940
They have it on hand.

668
00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:05,780
They put it into every F-150 that isn't a super duty.

669
00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:09,780
The five liter Coyote is good enough for the application and it would have sounded right

670
00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:14,860
and probably not lost that much power compared to the three liter twin turbo.

671
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:22,380
But for $96,000, I mean the suspension, I'll give it, the suspension is worth every penny

672
00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:31,100
because I did not jump it, but let's say a friend of mine did and it was very, very smooth

673
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:33,460
on the landing.

674
00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:37,820
Ford Motor Company, I did not jump your Bronco Raptor.

675
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:39,940
A friend of yours did.

676
00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:40,940
Yeah.

677
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:45,740
Someone I know personally who's devilishly handsome.

678
00:37:45,740 --> 00:37:53,300
The other, my favorite car that I've had this year above all has been the Ford F-150 Raptor

679
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:59,600
R. That truck is just, and I know it's not like off road, off road, but that is, it's

680
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,660
my car of the year for this year.

681
00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:05,060
Dude, we live in Michigan and people use those on the dunes.

682
00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:06,740
So that's off road to us.

683
00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:07,740
Yeah.

684
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:13,940
That is, I mean, even though it was like, I think it was a hundred and something thousand,

685
00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:17,140
110, 120 maybe.

686
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:20,780
Just the sound of it was just, I mean, it made you delirious.

687
00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:22,780
It was amazing.

688
00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:28,340
720 horsepower in a pickup truck is just so good.

689
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:33,700
I did that once in a Ram.

690
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:35,380
Which Ram?

691
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:42,620
I had a old five Ram 1500, two wheel drive, slammed it, put a turbo on it, made like seven

692
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:45,580
sixty five or something like that.

693
00:38:45,580 --> 00:38:47,460
Was it the five seven?

694
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:48,460
What did, what motor?

695
00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:49,460
Five seven, five seven Hemi.

696
00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:50,460
Okay.

697
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:51,460
Gotcha.

698
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:59,820
I mean, I have a buddy who has a, he has the, was it the three six V six that he has a hundred

699
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:04,740
shot of nitrous on, which is interesting.

700
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:05,740
That is interesting.

701
00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:09,700
Is it fast?

702
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:10,700
It's quick.

703
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,300
It beats V eight like stock V eight trucks.

704
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:18,500
So he's planning on V eight swapping it in one, but it is, it's a short cab or it's a

705
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,780
single cab short bed manual as well.

706
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,300
So it's a little sport.

707
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:25,300
Yeah.

708
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:28,160
I'm trying to think of other off road vehicles.

709
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,160
You know what?

710
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,980
I got to say it and I'm going to get hate for this.

711
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:41,100
The last off road experience, like truly off road experience I had was in a Nissan rogue

712
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:44,020
rock Creek.

713
00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:50,700
So this is all they do is they give it a different front bumper, which doesn't really, it increases

714
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,500
the approach angle by like two inches.

715
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:55,300
They don't touch the suspension.

716
00:39:55,300 --> 00:40:00,100
They give it knobby tires and then they give it an off road load and like special seats

717
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:01,900
or whatever.

718
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:07,420
For a Nissan event, Nissan paid for us to, they sent the car to my house and then I drove

719
00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:10,740
it to Indiana and we went to this off road park.

720
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,700
It's called sod busters off road in Indiana.

721
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:20,380
They do like three mud bog events a year.

722
00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:24,980
I don't know how corporate Nissan found this hole in the wall, but literally the whole

723
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:32,060
small town turned up because we had seven of these mom SUVs that we wanted to take on

724
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:37,580
their off road course and the dang things worked so well.

725
00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:39,580
It was stupid.

726
00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:40,580
Yeah.

727
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:44,220
I have been sod busters.

728
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:45,340
Yes.

729
00:40:45,340 --> 00:40:50,660
Because we went to, as the Nissan event, we went to a Notre Dame game the night before

730
00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:52,440
they paid for our hotel.

731
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,620
They got us tickets to the Notre Dame game and then in the morning we loaded up and did

732
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:57,620
this.

733
00:40:57,620 --> 00:40:59,580
It's all in my review, all the footage of it.

734
00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:02,020
I'll have to go find that.

735
00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:07,380
There was this really steep incline and I looked at the Nissan representative and I

736
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:10,900
was like, I don't think this, this is not a good idea.

737
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:16,080
Like this thing is not going to make it up that and lo and behold, with enough throttle

738
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,580
and enough gut, you can get up it.

739
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:24,300
I mean the whole, like the off road team was like, how the heck did none of these get stuck?

740
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,440
It was absolutely wild.

741
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,340
So although I don't think I would buy one of those because I don't like the engine and

742
00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:35,380
I don't like the transmission, I got to give credit where credit's due.

743
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:40,620
That thing actually ripped.

744
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:44,380
You know, I actually have a review for you that might be kind of fun.

745
00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:49,860
We'll have to talk about this another time, but we have a guy in our group, he drives

746
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:54,060
a GMC Terrain.

747
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:55,420
Yep.

748
00:41:55,420 --> 00:41:56,660
Okay.

749
00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:57,660
What is it?

750
00:41:57,660 --> 00:41:59,740
A 2022 I think it is.

751
00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:00,740
That sounds about right.

752
00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:03,420
It's somewhat new, but not.

753
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:09,020
He's got three inches of custom suspension on it.

754
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:11,260
Okay.

755
00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:13,780
And he thinks it's a good off road truck.

756
00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:18,300
I mean, to be fair, I've never watched him wheel it, so I can't say it's not, but it

757
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:24,560
is just a Terrain, but it's a very different Terrain from what you'd usually see.

758
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,540
So that one would probably be a fun one for you to review.

759
00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:30,460
I would love to do that.

760
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:35,100
My first ever off-roading experience, and there's a video of this on my channel.

761
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:43,060
If you type in Pontiac Sunfire, a guy lifted a Pontiac Sunfire and put it on mud terrains.

762
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:45,500
I saw the green one.

763
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,540
No, it was red.

764
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:49,860
I think it was a Sunfire.

765
00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:52,620
Let me see.

766
00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:53,620
Yeah.

767
00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:56,060
Lifted 2003 Pontiac Sunfire Sedan review.

768
00:42:56,060 --> 00:42:59,420
I posted this 2019.

769
00:42:59,420 --> 00:43:04,060
This thing, I mean, with enough throttle, it got around.

770
00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:05,740
It did buy.

771
00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:07,580
It was still front wheel drive.

772
00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:11,580
Oh yeah, look at that.

773
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:13,340
It's got the 2.2 and everything.

774
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:14,340
Yeah.

775
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:17,580
And it's an automatic.

776
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:22,460
And all he would do is he would lock it in first gear and his foot would never leave

777
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:23,460
the floorboard.

778
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:26,740
And it was just ran in, in, in, in, in, just everywhere it went.

779
00:43:26,740 --> 00:43:32,300
And this thing took a beating, but we were following, it was a whole Subaru club.

780
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:38,620
We were keeping up with like lifted, we lifted Foresters and Crosstrek and Legacies and Outbacks

781
00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:39,820
and things like that.

782
00:43:39,820 --> 00:43:47,340
And then here we came and this chopped up Pontiac Sunfire on God knows what kind of

783
00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:49,660
wheels and it did it.

784
00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:52,940
It actually did it.

785
00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:54,580
That thing looks sick.

786
00:43:54,580 --> 00:43:56,780
I'm not going to lie.

787
00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:58,380
Yeah.

788
00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:04,340
I mean, some of my best off-roading experiences have been in the most ill equipped vehicles

789
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:07,300
probably ever.

790
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:13,660
I mean, I three wheeled my own Mazda 3 and I have a six foot gash on the bottom of the

791
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:18,740
car going all the way down and it starts two inches behind the oil pan.

792
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:24,820
Because I three wheeled it and then I high centered it on a rock.

793
00:44:24,820 --> 00:44:26,700
How's that old girl doing?

794
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:31,620
You had, because that's the one you had when you came up here, right?

795
00:44:31,620 --> 00:44:36,000
Yeah the Mazda 3, you know, I, I'm very, very fortunate.

796
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:41,060
Last year I started getting press cars, which is the manufacturer will actually send me

797
00:44:41,060 --> 00:44:44,100
a car to drive for a week, which is great.

798
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,940
It's free gas, it's free tolls.

799
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:47,860
I get a brand new car every week.

800
00:44:47,860 --> 00:44:53,020
My Mazda doesn't have heated seats, but I haven't not had a vehicle with or I haven't

801
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:56,540
had a vehicle without heated seats in the last like two years.

802
00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:59,980
So it works out pretty well.

803
00:44:59,980 --> 00:45:02,180
I have 108,000 miles on it.

804
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:03,460
I still have it.

805
00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:07,700
It's parked in the garage and I actually just got a battery tender in the mail for it.

806
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:10,540
Because if I don't have to drive it through the salt, I'm not going to drive through the

807
00:45:10,540 --> 00:45:11,540
salt.

808
00:45:11,540 --> 00:45:12,540
But I love that thing.

809
00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:18,940
We took my girlfriend and I, we took it down to Big Bend, Texas for Big Bend National Park

810
00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:20,380
down in Texas.

811
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:27,860
And there was this trail, there was like this old spa from the 1930s.

812
00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:30,220
That was like this like hot springs thing.

813
00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:33,540
But to get down there was a four by four trail.

814
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:38,460
And me being me was like, oh, for my Mazda three is all wheel drive.

815
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:39,820
That's four wheel drive.

816
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:42,660
So we're like, okay, let's do it.

817
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:44,580
And we're going down this trail.

818
00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:47,100
And it's you know, it's a little washboardy.

819
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:50,980
And I don't know what the term is when like, the wheels are doing the opposite thing.

820
00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:54,700
So like the left track would go down and the right track would go up and then vice versa.

821
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,580
I don't know if there's like a word for that.

822
00:45:56,580 --> 00:46:01,140
We call it canvaring, but I don't know that's the same thing.

823
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:03,380
So like, we start doing that, we start doing that.

824
00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:05,420
And I'm like, oh, this is getting kind of rough.

825
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:09,660
You know, we're hearing some pinging and ponging happening underneath the car.

826
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:11,980
And then it starts to get really loud.

827
00:46:11,980 --> 00:46:13,620
And I stopped the car.

828
00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:18,260
And I'm like, oh, like, I think we might have a flat tire.

829
00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:23,220
Because like the front left side is dipping like really, really bad.

830
00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:28,300
And as I'm thinking it, the whole car leans back onto the rear right tire.

831
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:30,620
And now the front tire is hanging in the air.

832
00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:33,540
So we were three wheeling it.

833
00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:35,740
And so I just throttled it out.

834
00:46:35,740 --> 00:46:38,540
I have a picture of it down at the basin.

835
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:40,320
And it was all fine.

836
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,500
We went back up, same thing, some dents and dings, but it's fine.

837
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:48,620
And as we were leaving, there was this Jeep that was pulling onto the trail.

838
00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:51,060
And everyone in the Jeep was just staring at us.

839
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:56,580
And I swear, the driver did the actual movie thing where he lowered his glasses and looked

840
00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:57,580
at me.

841
00:46:57,580 --> 00:47:01,020
And I was like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you, man.

842
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:02,540
And we just kept and you know what?

843
00:47:02,540 --> 00:47:07,740
I drove that thing 2000 miles back home, not a single issue and haven't had an issue at

844
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:08,740
all.

845
00:47:08,740 --> 00:47:09,740
God bless.

846
00:47:09,740 --> 00:47:10,740
Yeah.

847
00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:17,780
A pretty big joke in our community is, you know, I spent $40,000 building out my rig

848
00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:23,500
just to get to the spot I was aiming for to find a stock condo Civic.

849
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:24,500
Exactly.

850
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:25,500
Exactly.

851
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:30,140
But, you know, the off-road stuff is a lot of fun.

852
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:35,340
And I'm trying to think of other off-road specific vehicles that I've had.

853
00:47:35,340 --> 00:47:37,140
I like the regular Bronco.

854
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:42,860
I think the regular Bronco is a good bang for buck if you buy them in like the $40,000

855
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,580
range and then fit them yourself.

856
00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:51,180
Because you could buy a stock, you know, a base or near base Bronco for, I think they

857
00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:58,780
started 43 or 44 and you could put 20 grand worth of mods into it and you would still

858
00:47:58,780 --> 00:48:01,820
be 30 grand shy of the Bronco Raptor.

859
00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:05,380
Like that's insane.

860
00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:11,340
So I mean, we were looking for one for my sister like a year ago.

861
00:48:11,340 --> 00:48:12,940
I think we're looking at like 22.

862
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:16,780
So, you know, a little bit older.

863
00:48:16,780 --> 00:48:22,820
And we were seeing them in like the 25 to $30,000 mark if they had a manual.

864
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:25,100
And it's like, man.

865
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:27,060
I've never driven the seven speed manual.

866
00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:29,100
I've always wanted to.

867
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:30,100
Yeah.

868
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:35,500
And for some reason, the manual is so much cheaper than the automatic.

869
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:36,940
Huh.

870
00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:39,460
That is actually really surprising.

871
00:48:39,460 --> 00:48:43,860
Like in the after, you know, in the resale market, for whatever reason, if it's got a

872
00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:47,460
manual, it's significantly cheaper.

873
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:48,980
Huh.

874
00:48:48,980 --> 00:48:52,980
I would not have guessed that truly.

875
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:59,500
I think it has something to do with what I would call the JK effect where the off road

876
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:07,380
vehicles like the Bronco or the Jeep JK or the JL even, they're not really marketed towards

877
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:08,760
enthusiasts anymore.

878
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,860
They're more marketed towards, you know, Sandy go and taking her kids to soccer.

879
00:49:14,860 --> 00:49:15,860
Yeah.

880
00:49:15,860 --> 00:49:17,860
A hundred percent.

881
00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:18,860
Unfortunately.

882
00:49:18,860 --> 00:49:24,260
So, you know, with that being how it is, well, Sandy's not going to learn how to drive a

883
00:49:24,260 --> 00:49:25,260
manual.

884
00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:27,100
She just wants to get in her car and go.

885
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:28,100
Right.

886
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,900
So it drives the cost of the automatics up.

887
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:31,900
Yeah.

888
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:39,900
And, you know, I just drove, I just drove a 2024 Wrangler sport and it had like, I think

889
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:44,580
it had the hardtop option, optional wheels.

890
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:45,980
I want to say that that's it.

891
00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:49,420
I mean, it pretty is basic as a Wrangler get.

892
00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:50,420
Yeah.

893
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:57,140
And I was like, oh, like, you know, this isn't bad brand new for like 38, 39, whatever.

894
00:49:57,140 --> 00:49:58,140
$47,000.

895
00:49:58,140 --> 00:49:59,140
Jesus.

896
00:49:59,140 --> 00:50:07,020
I mean, how it's just, it's so far out of everyone's price range that it's just, and

897
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:12,460
then the car companies are going to be curious as to why they're not selling units, Stellantis

898
00:50:12,460 --> 00:50:19,580
in general, which is a whole cup of tea situation.

899
00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:24,400
Especially with Stellantis trying to figure out why they're having the lowest sales they've

900
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,700
ever had by like 60% or something like that.

901
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:31,060
Yeah, it's, it's bad.

902
00:50:31,060 --> 00:50:33,140
And you know what?

903
00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:37,980
I work pretty closely with the Stellantis PR team and they're truly wonderful people.

904
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:40,540
I mean, they are awesome, awesome people.

905
00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:46,500
It's just, it's, it's just a bad situation and it's a mix of the quality of the cars

906
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:47,500
are bad.

907
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:50,300
Well, if they try to make the quality bad, then they got to spend more money and they

908
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,700
don't have money to spend.

909
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:57,220
I mean, they're really in a corner and so we'll see what happens.

910
00:50:57,220 --> 00:51:05,420
Of all the brands I worry about Jeep the least, there was talks of possibly trying to Toyota

911
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:14,660
or Honda, possibly buying the Jeep name and, you know, I mean, it's all speculation online,

912
00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:22,220
but man, if Toyota bought Jeep and made actual reliable Wranglers, I mean, that'd be awesome.

913
00:51:22,220 --> 00:51:30,540
I almost would rather see Ford buy Jeep to be honest.

914
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:36,180
Just you know, from a history standpoint, Ford and Willys made the Jeeps together for

915
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:38,140
World War II.

916
00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:39,980
There were a couple other little ones in there.

917
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:46,140
I mean, Banna made a handful, but you know, long gone companies now, but it would be really

918
00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:52,340
cool to see Ford circle back and take ownership of that line.

919
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:54,420
Yeah, no, 100%.

920
00:51:54,420 --> 00:52:00,180
The military Jeep that I reviewed actually had Ford stampings on it, which was really,

921
00:52:00,180 --> 00:52:01,180
really cool.

922
00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:04,620
I think it was just for the radiator cap and something else.

923
00:52:04,620 --> 00:52:10,740
It was a Willys or Willys built Jeep, but it had four Jeep parts on it, which was really

924
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:11,740
special.

925
00:52:11,740 --> 00:52:17,220
I think Ford would do that just because their Bronco sells so well that they would have,

926
00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:20,140
basically, they would create a competitor to it.

927
00:52:20,140 --> 00:52:22,500
Toyota doesn't really have a Jeep competitor.

928
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:27,340
I mean, say 4Runner all you want, but they really serve two different markets.

929
00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:29,980
Very much so.

930
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:34,340
But no, I 100% you never, never could see Ford buying them, but I would love to see

931
00:52:34,340 --> 00:52:35,340
Ford buy them.

932
00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:37,180
Oh yeah, no, me 100%.

933
00:52:37,180 --> 00:52:42,580
I would love to see GM bring Pontiac and Saturn back as EVs even.

934
00:52:42,580 --> 00:52:45,140
I think Saturn is the...

935
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:47,940
Oldsmobile would be great.

936
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:53,980
I think Saturn would be the perfect little economy EV restart.

937
00:52:53,980 --> 00:53:01,900
They did it with the GMC Hummer, which is quite the handful to drive, but they did it.

938
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:08,020
I have a very love-hate relationship with the EV Hummer.

939
00:53:08,020 --> 00:53:09,860
It's a really cool piece of technology.

940
00:53:09,860 --> 00:53:16,020
I mean, as a gimmicky fun thing, it was really, really fun to have one and go and play with

941
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:23,060
all the buttons, but driving it, you're driving a nearly 10,000 pound truck that can do zero

942
00:53:23,060 --> 00:53:26,060
to 60 in about four seconds.

943
00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:34,300
So it'll take one rich dad's kid, some 16 year old to try to impress his friends in

944
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:35,940
a parking lot.

945
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:42,420
And now it's a 10,000 pound battering ram into some poor family's house or a supermarket

946
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:44,460
or what have you.

947
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:45,460
Yep.

948
00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:51,580
I mean, kind of on that front, have you driven the cyber truck yet?

949
00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:52,580
I have.

950
00:53:52,580 --> 00:53:58,060
Again, love-hate relationship with that.

951
00:53:58,060 --> 00:54:03,340
I applaud them for creating a car that doesn't look like anything else.

952
00:54:03,340 --> 00:54:11,180
The number one comment that I get on every new car video is every car looks the same.

953
00:54:11,180 --> 00:54:15,940
And then finally, a company made a car that doesn't look the same and people still hate

954
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:16,940
it.

955
00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:23,060
It is well, but you asked for something different and this is it's different.

956
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:26,100
I was going to say to be fair.

957
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:31,860
Yeah, no, it is ugly, but different is usually viewed as ugly.

958
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:40,220
That's why, you know, no other car looks like it, but it's you got to applaud different.

959
00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:42,320
It's fine to drive.

960
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:48,660
It has a really weird steering mechanism that isn't talked about as much because it is steer

961
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:57,540
by wire, which isn't a new thing in the car industry, but the steering is nonlinear.

962
00:54:57,540 --> 00:55:02,660
So you turn the wheel a little bit and the wheels turn a little bit, but then you turn

963
00:55:02,660 --> 00:55:06,420
it a little bit more and the wheels go to full lock.

964
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:11,140
So there's no like, it's not like, oh, every inch is five degrees.

965
00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:14,380
It's like, well, the first three inches are five degrees and the next three inches are

966
00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:15,700
30 degrees.

967
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:21,740
And so driving it is just strange and it's weird to get used to.

968
00:55:21,740 --> 00:55:24,540
What shape was the steering wheel on the one you drove?

969
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:27,500
Was it a yoke?

970
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:31,580
Man, I can't even remember.

971
00:55:31,580 --> 00:55:33,460
I have to look up my own video.

972
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:39,940
I will say the other part of the love part of the Cybertruck is that this one single

973
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:44,540
video paid my rent for probably about three months this summer.

974
00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:47,060
So respect where respect is due.

975
00:55:47,060 --> 00:55:51,580
And there's a lot of angry comments, but the angry comments were keeping the lights on

976
00:55:51,580 --> 00:55:52,580
here.

977
00:55:52,580 --> 00:55:57,620
I had like a, it was like an oval shaped wheel.

978
00:55:57,620 --> 00:55:59,740
It wasn't the full yoke.

979
00:55:59,740 --> 00:56:01,880
It was weird.

980
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:08,100
I drove a Model X, a Tesla Model X with the yoke and the yoke is a joke.

981
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:12,580
It's a horrible steering mechanism.

982
00:56:12,580 --> 00:56:14,900
I was watching a video recently.

983
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:19,380
I don't remember who did it, but they were talking about how bad the yoke was.

984
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:27,300
And the main complaint was the nonlinear steering because you know, in an F1 car, which is what

985
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:33,020
the yoke's based off of, it makes sense because they're not turning that wheel all the way.

986
00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:37,720
So the yoke doesn't get in the way and it's got linear steering, but it's more steering

987
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:40,020
than what a normal car would have.

988
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:48,660
But with the Tesla yoke, the wheel still turns almost all the way, but it's got nonlinear

989
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:49,820
steering.

990
00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:51,580
It goes all the way around.

991
00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:56,580
You have to hand over hand the yoke and your left hand instinctively grabs the top of the

992
00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:59,380
steering wheel, but there's no top of the steering wheel to grab.

993
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:02,220
So you just kind of punch the air.

994
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:05,220
That's just terrible.

995
00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:11,740
Yokes do not belong on a normal road drive.

996
00:57:11,740 --> 00:57:13,780
They just don't.

997
00:57:13,780 --> 00:57:20,620
Lexus did it very, very short with their EV, the RZ450.

998
00:57:20,620 --> 00:57:25,420
They offered a yoke and I think they canceled it within the first month or so of production

999
00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:27,300
and went back to a wheel.

1000
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:29,640
It's just, it's not smart.

1001
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:37,740
And people want these cars to be space agey without doing the space agey back work, I

1002
00:57:37,740 --> 00:57:42,740
guess.

1003
00:57:42,740 --> 00:57:47,580
The Cybertruck, it's weird.

1004
00:57:47,580 --> 00:57:55,580
Reviewing any Tesla product is very, very hard to do because there's almost no way to

1005
00:57:55,580 --> 00:58:05,380
do it without bias or without considering everything that Tesla and Elon Musk is.

1006
00:58:05,380 --> 00:58:08,740
You can't just buy a Tesla because you're like, oh, I want an electric car.

1007
00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:12,900
It's like, oh, you're buying it and you want an electric car and you support this and you

1008
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:17,980
support that and you don't support this and don't support that, all of this stuff.

1009
00:58:17,980 --> 00:58:23,740
So it's tough, but I was able to get in the seat of one and it was not great.

1010
00:58:23,740 --> 00:58:30,540
Yeah, it's funny because I'm actually a big Musk fan, but I'm not a Tesla fan.

1011
00:58:30,540 --> 00:58:31,540
Interesting.

1012
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:37,620
You often find it the other way around.

1013
00:58:37,620 --> 00:58:38,620
Not here.

1014
00:58:38,620 --> 00:58:39,620
Here it's the other way around.

1015
00:58:39,620 --> 00:58:40,620
Gotcha.

1016
00:58:40,620 --> 00:58:41,620
Okay.

1017
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:48,260
I mean, you got to remember we're from the middle of nowhere, man.

1018
00:58:48,260 --> 00:58:53,620
You know, it's interesting because with him being a part of government and there's so

1019
00:58:53,620 --> 00:59:00,780
many EV rebates and stuff, but those might go away, which will hurt his business, which

1020
00:59:00,780 --> 00:59:02,420
will be interesting.

1021
00:59:02,420 --> 00:59:06,180
The whole political situation with EVs is going to be really interesting over the next

1022
00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:07,780
four years.

1023
00:59:07,780 --> 00:59:12,340
I think a lot of those EV things are going to get walked back and I think we're going

1024
00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:15,620
to see a slowing in production for sure.

1025
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:21,020
So right now with the way the EVs aren't selling and when like up here, they're basically

1026
00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:25,020
useless in the winter.

1027
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:31,020
So watching that stuff kind of get rolled back a little, I'm not against it because

1028
00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:33,540
I'm not going to say there's no future for EVs.

1029
00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:36,180
That makes sense for say Chicago.

1030
00:59:36,180 --> 00:59:37,740
You're near Chicago.

1031
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:43,540
If I lived in Chicago, I would have an EV period.

1032
00:59:43,540 --> 00:59:47,500
But like up here, not even saying it has to be gas or diesel.

1033
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:51,380
I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to hydrogen.

1034
00:59:51,380 --> 00:59:57,180
If we can find a way to power a car off, that would be awesome.

1035
00:59:57,180 --> 01:00:03,340
Hi, this is editor Alex coming at you from the future.

1036
01:00:03,340 --> 01:00:07,740
We had a brief power outage right here, but we got her under control and got right back

1037
01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:08,740
to the pod.

1038
01:00:08,740 --> 01:00:12,420
Oh, I hear him.

1039
01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:14,460
Did you see that happen?

1040
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:16,380
No.

1041
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:20,020
The whole power of my house just flashed and everything.

1042
01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:25,300
Oh, that's why it got dark for a second.

1043
01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:26,300
Yeah.

1044
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:29,780
I mean, my computer just shut down.

1045
01:00:29,780 --> 01:00:33,820
Everything just went dark for a second.

1046
01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:37,580
So obviously my internet went out, so I'm on data now.

1047
01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:38,580
But wow.

1048
01:00:38,580 --> 01:00:43,300
Okay, exhibit A, if that happens overnight and you don't know it and you're trying to

1049
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:48,140
charge your car, you're not going to have miles in the morning.

1050
01:00:48,140 --> 01:00:49,140
Nope.

1051
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:58,620
See, this is why we need to fund the technology to power cars off turkey poop.

1052
01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:04,780
I feel like that argument might be a little bit biased, but I'll stand behind it.

1053
01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:10,060
I mean, if we could figure out how to power them reliably off nitrogen, we can pull nitrogen

1054
01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:13,140
out of turkey poop, out of any poop really.

1055
01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:14,140
Yeah.

1056
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:18,340
Oh, that's a good point.

1057
01:01:18,340 --> 01:01:20,700
So I mean, yeah.

1058
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:25,460
The thing is, my mom works 1.8 miles from their house.

1059
01:01:25,460 --> 01:01:29,940
She should definitely have an EV.

1060
01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:35,020
Even in winter, if she has a third of the range, which is going to be like still 75

1061
01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:36,020
miles.

1062
01:01:36,020 --> 01:01:39,980
I mean, I don't think she's ever driven more than 30 miles in her whole entire life in

1063
01:01:39,980 --> 01:01:42,980
one day.

1064
01:01:42,980 --> 01:01:46,660
Stuff like that makes sense.

1065
01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:52,180
Not even for the environmental standpoint, because that's a whole nother bag of worms,

1066
01:01:52,180 --> 01:01:56,780
but just for the price of ownership, it makes sense for her to have an EV.

1067
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:57,780
Yeah.

1068
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:02,660
And she's an older lady, she wouldn't have to go to the gas station anymore, especially

1069
01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:04,380
at night, especially when the sun's down.

1070
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:07,540
I know that's a big stressor for a lot of people.

1071
01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:09,900
She would always be at home plugged in.

1072
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,820
She wouldn't have to deal with anything.

1073
01:02:12,820 --> 01:02:18,300
And a lot of people, non gear heads are very adverse to the smell of gas, how dirty it

1074
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:21,220
is, the whole process of it.

1075
01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:27,020
It makes sense for people, but it shouldn't be required is the biggest thing.

1076
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:28,020
Yeah, 100%.

1077
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:33,780
Yeah, I'm not anti EV, I'm anti forced EV.

1078
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:41,460
Yeah, I mean, whenever I have an EV at the house for a week, I just know that my week

1079
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:46,260
is going to be a little bit harder because of the amount of miles I drive a week.

1080
01:02:46,260 --> 01:02:49,580
I have to consider and I don't have a charger at my house.

1081
01:02:49,580 --> 01:02:55,680
So I'm like, okay, well, if I film on Monday and Tuesday, Tuesday night has to be spent

1082
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,100
at Walmart charging.

1083
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:03,060
And then if I drive far on Wednesday, I probably got to spend Wednesday night charging.

1084
01:03:03,060 --> 01:03:08,060
It takes about an hour or two to do it each time.

1085
01:03:08,060 --> 01:03:10,900
So I just have to plan that into my life.

1086
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,020
Does it absolutely stop my life?

1087
01:03:13,020 --> 01:03:17,380
No, but it's something you have to consider.

1088
01:03:17,380 --> 01:03:20,220
You know, I hadn't even, I didn't even fully thought about that.

1089
01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:23,700
Like I couldn't have an EV here because I don't have a garage.

1090
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:29,500
So I would have to charge it somewhere else, which would mean, you know, in my situation,

1091
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:32,900
I'd have to drive, oh, we don't even have a free mode.

1092
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:36,820
Yeah, but they got the slow chargers.

1093
01:03:36,820 --> 01:03:39,840
I'd have to go to Paranoia.

1094
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:40,840
And that's the other thing.

1095
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,940
Now you're relying, you're hoping that when you get there, the charger's in full working

1096
01:03:45,940 --> 01:03:46,940
order.

1097
01:03:46,940 --> 01:03:52,760
I had a Hyundai IONIQ 6 last year, which is like their electric sedan.

1098
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:58,580
There's the IONIQ 5 SUV and then there's the IONIQ 6, which is the sedan.

1099
01:03:58,580 --> 01:04:03,500
And I had like 30 miles of range left and I had like two hours before I was supposed

1100
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:04,500
to film.

1101
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:05,500
So I was like, all right, cool.

1102
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:07,940
I'll, you know, I found a charger along the way.

1103
01:04:07,940 --> 01:04:14,180
I'll get it down to like 20% and then I'll charge, be good by the time the it's time

1104
01:04:14,180 --> 01:04:17,760
to film, you know, whatever other car I'm filming, whatever.

1105
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,300
And I get to the charger.

1106
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:20,880
Two of the bays were taken.

1107
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,900
The third charger not working.

1108
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:29,580
So I ended up waiting for 45 minutes for one of the Chevy Bolts to leave so then I could

1109
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:30,580
finally charge.

1110
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:32,720
And now I didn't have enough time for a full charge.

1111
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,900
So I got up to like 55 or 60%, went and filmed the video, then drove back to the charger

1112
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:40,780
to top off the rest of the charge.

1113
01:04:40,780 --> 01:04:46,980
So it was like, well, this two hour endeavor now just became five and a half hours.

1114
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:52,540
And, you know, aside from the fact that I couldn't just throw a charger outside, I do

1115
01:04:52,540 --> 01:04:55,440
live in Michigan and like right now it's really cold out.

1116
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,340
That car would not be happy charging at all outside.

1117
01:04:58,340 --> 01:05:00,820
No, no, no, no.

1118
01:05:00,820 --> 01:05:06,100
And that's another barrier to entry too, is that it's still you have to have, you have

1119
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:14,180
to basically own a home in order to have an EV and at that point own a home with a garage.

1120
01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:19,860
Yeah, right. And own a home with a garage that will take 240 and own a home with a garage,

1121
01:05:19,860 --> 01:05:24,420
you know, that is set up for 240 that isn't gonna, you know, break your system or whatever.

1122
01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:31,260
So there's a lot of stipulations that kind of, you know, keep it from being in every

1123
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:33,300
man's vehicle.

1124
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:35,380
Yeah.

1125
01:05:35,380 --> 01:05:38,020
I really think the technology is cool.

1126
01:05:38,020 --> 01:05:45,780
And just I don't see in the next 20, maybe even 30 years it being viable for everybody.

1127
01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:46,780
No.

1128
01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:47,780
Yeah.

1129
01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:55,100
And, you know, it's funny, I was down in Oklahoma City or maybe Tulsa.

1130
01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,020
I can't remember now.

1131
01:05:57,020 --> 01:06:00,820
On the trip, actually, funny enough that I went off-roading in my Mazda 3 on the way

1132
01:06:00,820 --> 01:06:06,780
down, I reviewed a Mitsubishi i-Mew, which was one of the first electric cars you could

1133
01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:07,780
buy.

1134
01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:08,780
It was one of the first EGs.

1135
01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:10,340
Do you guys remember that?

1136
01:06:10,340 --> 01:06:11,340
I do.

1137
01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:12,740
That's familiar.

1138
01:06:12,740 --> 01:06:20,260
The guy lived in an apartment complex and he had an extension cord running off of his

1139
01:06:20,260 --> 01:06:23,100
balcony and down into the parking lot.

1140
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,100
There was just this orange cord dangling.

1141
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:32,640
Which also, by the way, if I have any PSA to give you, do not charge an EV or any modern

1142
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,980
EV off of an extension cord.

1143
01:06:34,980 --> 01:06:36,100
Do not do that.

1144
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,960
It will fry your outlets and all the chargers say don't do it.

1145
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,520
I didn't read that and I came home to an outlet on fire.

1146
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,000
So don't charge with an extension cord.

1147
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,920
Man, that really wouldn't work for me.

1148
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:57,120
Yeah, I had a Volvo S60, which is their plug-in hybrid to be fair.

1149
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,900
It wasn't a full electric, but as a plug-in hybrid, you get like 30 miles of electric

1150
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:03,760
driving if you charge it up.

1151
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,640
This car was wonky too.

1152
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,520
It threw a check engine light.

1153
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,560
It would start and stop randomly.

1154
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,400
So like I would just look out my window and the lights were on and it was running even

1155
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,200
though I had the key with me upstairs.

1156
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,200
That sounds safe.

1157
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,280
Yeah, it was bad.

1158
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:25,160
But I plugged into the wall and I came out the next day and it was still at 0%.

1159
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,840
I was like, what the heck, man?

1160
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,040
I was charging this all night and I go and look at the outlet.

1161
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,640
The outlet is black and charred.

1162
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,360
And I was like, oh, all right, so I'm calling an electrician.

1163
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,840
And that was a hundred and so dollar mistake.

1164
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,960
But I ended up learning, do not charge them off of extension cords.

1165
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,000
It's no good.

1166
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,160
Yeah, that's just, that's wild, man.

1167
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:59,440
But yeah, well, so we are over an hour now.

1168
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,320
We could stop if you need to stop or we could keep going.

1169
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,320
I don't care either way.

1170
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,360
I can do probably 10 more minutes and then I'm going to go figure out what that power

1171
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:12,200
surge was.

1172
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,640
This house is built in the 40s, so it's got some wonkiness to it.

1173
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,440
But how do you guys feel about the four by E Wrangler?

1174
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaking of electric cars and off-roaders.

1175
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:29,840
I don't think I've seen one like seen one out on the trails yet.

1176
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,160
I haven't seen one out on the trail.

1177
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:41,600
But my thing with the four by E is, is that the hybrid one or are those full electric?

1178
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,880
Those are full electric, right?

1179
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,280
No, the four by E is the plug-in hybrid.

1180
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:53,160
So it's the two-liter turbo and then you get like 25 miles of all electric driving.

1181
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:58,560
Because I have thoughts on full electric off-road, but when it comes to plug-in hybrid, that

1182
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,880
instant torque would be nice.

1183
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,880
It's not that instant.

1184
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:04,880
No.

1185
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:14,240
Well, when it's in EV mode, it doesn't like, I don't think it can go above.

1186
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,200
There's a certain speed where it tops out at.

1187
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:21,120
It's not very, it's basically a gas saver mechanism.

1188
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,120
It's not very torquey.

1189
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:28,760
Although I will say in the industry, it has one of the best, if not the best crossover

1190
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,000
from gas to electric.

1191
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,560
It's nearly seamless.

1192
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,520
Even the Prius, I mean, the Prius bucks like a Bronco when it switches from gas to electric.

1193
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,960
The four by E doesn't, but I was curious if you guys have seen them out on trails, but

1194
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:43,960
apparently not.

1195
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:50,520
And they've been out for, I think, well, my computer is off now.

1196
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:56,000
I think I reviewed one as old as 2021, I want to say.

1197
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,560
Sounds about right.

1198
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,920
I will say that most of what we see though are Toyotas because we kind of run in a group

1199
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,400
that's kind of heavy on the Toyotas.

1200
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Yeah.

1201
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,400
Sure.

1202
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,400
Okay.

1203
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:08,400
So how about the new Land Cruiser?

1204
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,400
Yeah.

1205
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,400
Nope.

1206
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,400
Never seen one.

1207
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,400
I've not seen one of those yet.

1208
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,920
Well, you're not touching them for under 60K.

1209
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,200
They look sick.

1210
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,200
They are very sick.

1211
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:28,120
I was fortunate enough to actually have two of them due to a scheduling error, actually.

1212
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:33,120
Toyota sent me the top trim level, which is just called Land Cruiser with the rectangle

1213
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,420
headlights.

1214
01:10:34,420 --> 01:10:39,760
So I drove that around for a couple of days, had a refrigerator in it, had the nice sound

1215
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,000
system, big screen, all that stuff.

1216
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,680
And then I get a call on Friday morning saying, Hey, we gave you the wrong Land Cruiser.

1217
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,120
We have to come pick it up and we're giving you a base model.

1218
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:56,840
So I, in the 40 minutes that they said that they would be there, I went and filmed a review.

1219
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:01,040
Well, I filmed all the exterior and interior shots of it.

1220
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,440
And then they picked it up and all the audio you hear, I'm actually driving the base model,

1221
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:09,840
but you never see it because it's just the exterior video of the other one.

1222
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,360
But then I had the base model for a little bit.

1223
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,360
I like them.

1224
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:20,120
And it's going to be very interesting to see how the 2.4 turbo does, just like longevity

1225
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:26,360
sake, but they're great to drive and they have all the off-road goodies you could want.

1226
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:31,120
And I'm interested to see what Toyota's play is here, because from what I've been seeing

1227
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:39,400
with the new 4Runner, it's going to be priced pretty similar in a pretty similar price bracket.

1228
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:45,920
So I kind of feel like Toyota's shooting themselves in the foot and putting out competitors of

1229
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,400
each other.

1230
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Yeah, it'll be interesting in January when we figure out the pricing and whatnot and

1231
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,000
actually getting to drive it.

1232
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,560
And it'll be, I actually asked the Toyota representative for him, very close with these,

1233
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,560
very, very cool.

1234
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,440
Actually it doesn't live too far from you guys.

1235
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:10,840
And I was asking him, I was like, what is the difference between the 4Runner and the

1236
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,440
Land Cruiser?

1237
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:17,480
And his first response was the typical PR person of, we don't talk about future product,

1238
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:18,480
whatever.

1239
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:23,360
But he said that they basically serve two different demographics where 4Runner is more

1240
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:28,440
camping and like fishing and outdoorsy lifestyle.

1241
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:33,320
And the Land Cruiser is more higher speed, rougher terrain.

1242
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:42,960
And I was like, okay, that didn't really answer my question, but that's what he told me.

1243
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:50,320
And from a use case, obviously the new 4Runner is way different than prior ones, but looking

1244
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,180
at prior product line, the Land Cruiser and the 4Runner have always been very similar

1245
01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:59,200
with the Land Cruiser just being like a fancier version.

1246
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:00,200
Yeah.

1247
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,200
Right.

1248
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:11,400
So I will say Toyota is the king of offering several vehicles that fill the same market.

1249
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:17,520
If you look at any of Toyota's overseas markets, they have the, in the nineties there was the

1250
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:27,300
Corolla, Camry, Caldina and Corona, which were all just small sedans that basically

1251
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:29,560
do the exact same thing.

1252
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,680
They look almost identical.

1253
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:32,880
They look identical.

1254
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:39,360
I'll see like a Japanese called Dina and it's actually a Corolla or vice versa and all this

1255
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,360
stuff.

1256
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,060
Overseas they make like four or five different minivans.

1257
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:46,160
There's the Town Ace and High Ace.

1258
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:52,080
There's the Sienna and then they had some other Cruiser.

1259
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:57,280
I mean, it's just, it's wild, the library of cars that they have.

1260
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,960
So we'll see, maybe they know exactly what they're doing and they're going to serve two

1261
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:08,000
different markets or maybe, you know, it's just going to flop and it's going to segregate

1262
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,440
the buying population.

1263
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:14,560
You know, I mean, that's why they got rid of the Land Cruiser the first time.

1264
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,560
Right.

1265
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:21,440
So we'll see, which technically the Land Cruiser we have now is the Land Cruiser Prado or whatever,

1266
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:25,840
but they still make a full size Land Cruiser elsewhere.

1267
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:32,600
I just wish we could get, do they have a diesel Land Cruiser in the US yet or no?

1268
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,600
Nope.

1269
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,600
Nope.

1270
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:39,160
I don't think, man, I just wish we could get any diesel at all.

1271
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,160
I'm trying to think.

1272
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,160
I think there's no Tundra diesel.

1273
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:48,240
I think their Hilux has diesels, but those not higher in the States anyways.

1274
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:54,080
Yeah, the Hilux definitely gets a diesel, but we don't get those here, which is always

1275
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,040
cool to go down to like Dallas or like Southern Texas and you start seeing Hilux's running

1276
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,160
around on Mexico plates.

1277
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,160
Yeah.

1278
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:07,160
I always take pictures of them because I think they're the coolest things in the world.

1279
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,120
I used to live in Sierra Vista, Arizona.

1280
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,120
We see them all the time.

1281
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,320
Oh, yeah, sure.

1282
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:21,880
But yeah, the Prado, however you say it, that is offered in a diesel overseas.

1283
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,960
The Land Cruiser is offered as a diesel.

1284
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:31,040
The Land Cruiser 79, the pickup, that is offered with a diesel and the Tacoma is offered with

1285
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,040
a diesel.

1286
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,760
Really?

1287
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,400
Huh.

1288
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,920
We don't even get non-hybrid Tacomas anymore.

1289
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,760
Every single Tacoma is a hybrid now.

1290
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,760
I'm sorry.

1291
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,520
That was Google's AI imagining something.

1292
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,600
The new Tacoma is not a diesel.

1293
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,960
Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

1294
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,120
I would imagine as such.

1295
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:06,560
But yeah, you know, us here in America, we just hate diesels unless they're pickup trucks.

1296
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,560
Yeah.

1297
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,720
I don't know why.

1298
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:13,720
I truly, truly do not understand it.

1299
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:18,480
I think it all comes back to dieselgate with Volkswagen.

1300
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,880
That's really where it all kind of falls back to.

1301
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,800
Partially, I agree with you.

1302
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,480
I think that was probably the last nail in the coffin.

1303
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:33,120
But we also tried diesel cars here in the 80s with the Cadillacs and Oldsmobile diesels

1304
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:42,960
and they were so god awful that I think from the 80s on, no one really wanted them.

1305
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:50,400
I don't think that I could say that GM's attempt to take a 350 and make it run on diesel was

1306
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,560
really a good indicator for how diesels work.

1307
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,560
Yeah.

1308
01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:00,400
Well, but that's what everyone remembers.

1309
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:06,920
So even if it was a failure, everyone remembers that being a failure.

1310
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:11,800
Automakers were just trying to do whatever they could to get around the emission standards

1311
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,720
of the 70s and 80s and they thought diesel was the answer.

1312
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:21,660
And at least the way that they did it, it most certainly was not.

1313
01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:26,400
Have you ever gotten to drive one of those 70s or 80s GM diesels?

1314
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,280
No, I have been searching for one for so long.

1315
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:35,800
No one has and the only ones that I've been offered, the person's like, oh, I swapped

1316
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,240
it to just a small block Chevy.

1317
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:43,880
So no one keeps the diesel option because they were just so unreliable.

1318
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,320
I just want to hear an honest review and I know you would give an honest review.

1319
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,520
I want an honest review on how one works.

1320
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,320
Oh, you know what?

1321
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,320
Okay.

1322
01:17:54,320 --> 01:18:03,440
It wasn't, I drove a 1984 Lincoln Continental that was diesel.

1323
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:04,880
That's pretty sick.

1324
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,320
Do you know what engine was in it?

1325
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,040
He said Lincoln Continental.

1326
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,040
Don't look it up.

1327
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,040
Don't look it up.

1328
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,040
What year was it?

1329
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,040
1984.

1330
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,040
I want what year was it?

1331
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,040
1984.

1332
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,040
Was it a 6.9?

1333
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:27,720
No, no, it was not an IDI, although that would have been beyond bad ass.

1334
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,680
What was it?

1335
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,840
I'll give you a hint.

1336
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,080
It was not made by Ford.

1337
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,480
Cummins?

1338
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:37,480
I'll give you another hint.

1339
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:40,880
It was not made in the US.

1340
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,800
Isuzu.

1341
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,800
Not Japan.

1342
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,320
Man, I have no idea.

1343
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:53,680
BMW straight six diesel turbo.

1344
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,680
Oh my God, that actually sounds cool.

1345
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,000
It was cool and you know what's funny?

1346
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,720
It had a bigger turbo on it and I couldn't tell.

1347
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,520
I mean this thing was such a cinder block to drive.

1348
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,200
Very comfortable car.

1349
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:18,880
But they outsourced the Lincoln Continental to have a BMW straight six diesel turbo, factory

1350
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,880
turbo, not intercooled in the early 80s.

1351
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,880
That is wild.

1352
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,320
Was it at least one of the straight six?

1353
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,840
It's BMW so it wasn't reliable.

1354
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:34,840
It was fine.

1355
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:40,000
I mean it blew a ton of black smoke when I drove it, but pretty much any older diesel

1356
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,800
would and it did have a bigger turbo so I can't really fault it for that.

1357
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,440
But yeah, my buddy sent it to me.

1358
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:51,640
My buddy collects BMWs and he was like, hey, I got something weird.

1359
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:52,640
It's a Continental.

1360
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,480
And I was like, oh, are you switching up your formula?

1361
01:19:55,480 --> 01:19:58,920
And he sent me a picture of the engine bay and I was like, oh, you swapped it.

1362
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,440
And he goes, it's factory numbers matching.

1363
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:03,240
I was like, holy crap.

1364
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,640
I didn't even know that thing existed.

1365
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:13,800
But yeah, so today you learned that the Continental came with a BMW diesel in the early 80s.

1366
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,120
You have a review of that?

1367
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,800
Oh yeah, yeah, it's up on the channel.

1368
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,800
This was...

1369
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,400
I will have to watch that.

1370
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,680
That sounds ridiculous.

1371
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:28,000
It was actually July, 2023.

1372
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,440
Let me see if I can find it.

1373
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:31,440
June, 2023.

1374
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:36,440
1984 Lincoln Continental Turbo diesel.

1375
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:38,120
And I'm like talking about diesel cars.

1376
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,680
I kind of wish you bought your Renegade that you spec'd out originally, Alex.

1377
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,680
That would have been fun.

1378
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,400
Yeah, I should have bought that Renegade.

1379
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,400
So back in...

1380
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,440
Yeah, it was a diesel.

1381
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:54,960
Would have been 2017.

1382
01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:00,680
Yeah, what would have been a 2017 Renegade?

1383
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,080
Or I would have bought it in 2017, whatever.

1384
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:07,240
But anyways, I had went to the dealership and I was looking at trading in...

1385
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:14,240
At the time I had a Wrangler and a 76 J4000.

1386
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,440
And I was just sick and tired of having cars that I always had to work on.

1387
01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:27,640
So I was going to trade them in and get a brand new Renegade in bright yellow, Trailhawk,

1388
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,720
manual with the diesel.

1389
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,920
Jeez.

1390
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:40,720
As far as I know, there's only one that exists.

1391
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,200
I ordered it.

1392
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,840
They had a list of all the options I could pick and I picked all the options I wanted.

1393
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:47,960
They got the car in.

1394
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:52,640
I drove it one time and decided not to trade in my stuff.

1395
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,640
Fair enough.

1396
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,680
I did not know that they even made those.

1397
01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:59,680
Huh.

1398
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:05,640
Well, I just learned something today.

1399
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:10,680
But I have never seen a diesel manual Renegade.

1400
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:11,680
Yeah.

1401
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,680
Huh.

1402
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:17,280
I've seen the diesel ones.

1403
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:26,640
I did get into a fight at a wedding one time over the Mazda CX-5 diesel.

1404
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,600
This guy claimed that they were never ever sold here in the US.

1405
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:35,000
And I told him I drove one a week ago and he didn't believe me.

1406
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,880
And they only, I think they sold like a couple of them in the US.

1407
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,680
2019 only, I think.

1408
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,640
And they were only available on the top trim.

1409
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,520
So they were like 40 grand out the door.

1410
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,920
But they made diesel CX-5s and they sold horribly.

1411
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,560
To the point where the Mazda dealer that I borrowed it from actually asked me to do the

1412
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,720
video on it because they couldn't get it off their lot.

1413
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:09,560
And they were hoping that my video would stir some attention to the vehicle.

1414
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:15,560
How did this video even do?

1415
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,880
Five and a half thousand views.

1416
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:23,080
It's not great after four years.

1417
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,080
But yeah.

1418
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,080
But yeah.

1419
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,080
I can't.

1420
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,480
There are some weird diesel options out there.

1421
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:33,240
I think that one was the 2.0 or maybe the one.

1422
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,160
I think it was a 2.0 diesel.

1423
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,080
In the Renegade or CX-5?

1424
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,080
Renegade.

1425
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,080
Oh, okay.

1426
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:48,840
That has to be like European like Renault or like Fiat 2.0, no?

1427
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,040
Fiat, yep.

1428
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,040
Okay.

1429
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:57,080
Well, the Renegade is just the Fiat 500X.

1430
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,080
Exactly.

1431
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,080
Trying to look here.

1432
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:08,480
Oh, if you want to talk weird diesels, I drove a 2023 Cadillac Escalade diesel.

1433
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,480
That was weird.

1434
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:12,360
That is weird.

1435
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,360
That is weird.

1436
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,360
Duramax?

1437
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,360
I mean, IDI's.

1438
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,360
Yeah.

1439
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:17,360
Yeah.

1440
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:22,640
That was a factory car that had six miles on it when I drove it.

1441
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,640
Drove great.

1442
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:30,000
But I don't know who in the Escalade market was looking for a diesel.

1443
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:35,440
Although it did get like 30 miles to the gallon or something.

1444
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:41,120
You know, comparing that to like an Excursion, because you know, there was a 7.3 and 6.0 in

1445
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,840
the Excursions, those would fit the same market.

1446
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,480
That Cadillac would be way newer.

1447
01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:53,720
I typed in diesel on my channel and three videos down from the Escalade is an 04 Excursion,

1448
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:59,400
which I think was the 6.0, I think.

1449
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,560
Yeah, that would have been a 6.0.

1450
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,560
Yeah.

1451
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:10,360
Man, I wish you could have drove my Power Stroke before I got rid of it.

1452
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,480
Yeah, I know we had talked about doing that.

1453
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:18,040
We never made the dates line up, unfortunately.

1454
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,440
Because that thing was wild.

1455
01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:24,760
And yeah, because it was always broken when you were free and you were always busy when

1456
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,760
it wasn't broken.

1457
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,200
Unfortunately, it happens a bit too much in this industry.

1458
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:41,120
Because I mean, that thing was 500, like 500 ish horsepower on a factory transmission.

1459
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,640
Geez.

1460
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,840
For a truck that should have made 190 horsepower.

1461
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,840
Yeah, no kidding.

1462
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,600
I think it was probably screaming for dear life.

1463
01:25:52,600 --> 01:26:00,400
Yeah, we went through three of them in like four months.

1464
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,880
You become pretty much pro at dropping transmissions and putting them back up.

1465
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,880
Yeah, it's funny the skills you pick up without wanting to pick up.

1466
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:16,240
Life just throws them in your lap.

1467
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:20,320
But that thing breaking the last time is the whole reason I bought the 4Runner.

1468
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,360
And that's been a really great journey.

1469
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,440
Yeah, you know what?

1470
01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:27,780
It leads to something better, right?

1471
01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:37,760
Even though it was supposed, I went to Chicago to buy a 91 Tourist Show or 93 Tourist Show.

1472
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:43,760
Whatever the Bring a Trailer Tourist Show.

1473
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:49,880
I went there to buy it and it had like 70,000 miles on it.

1474
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:54,280
And as I'm pulling into the guy's driveway, the car is going the other direction with

1475
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,160
its new owner.

1476
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,720
No.

1477
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,800
Mind you, I had just driven six hours to buy this car.

1478
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,800
Yeah.

1479
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,240
Oh, jeez, I would have lost it.

1480
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,040
That's insane.

1481
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:17,080
So then I just went to Milwaukee and ended up with a rotted out 4Runner.

1482
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,920
You know, it all worked out.

1483
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,160
Everything is a silver lining at some point, right?

1484
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,960
But all right, dude, that almost an hour and a half.

1485
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,720
So that is definitely that's our episode and then some.

1486
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,880
Yeah, only one power.

1487
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,880
It's not bad.

1488
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:43,680
It has been awesome catching up with you and awesome getting your story out there for our

1489
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:44,680
listeners.

1490
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,840
Hopefully we get our handful of listeners over to your channel.

1491
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:48,840
Appreciate that.

1492
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:49,840
Thank you very much.

1493
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:55,960
And I'll put it out on my socials, whatever that means these days.

1494
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:56,960
Yeah.

1495
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:57,960
Yeah.

1496
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:58,960
Sounds good, man.

1497
01:27:58,960 --> 01:27:59,960
Well, awesome.

1498
01:27:59,960 --> 01:28:00,960
I appreciate you guys having me on.

1499
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:28,200
Thank you.