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Welcome to botches off-road join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to

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trail stories, tent camping to rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors.

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Today we're talking about our trip to Missouri to hang out with Benji from, Oh man, I just

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blanked on what Benji's podcast is called.

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Newfound Overland.

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Thank you.

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Sorry, Benji.

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I did not mean to forget that.

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And we went for the grand opening of his new store called Midwest Adventure Outfitters.

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I'll put the link in the description because he's doing a lot of really cool stuff over

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there.

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Oh yeah.

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Good stuff.

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He's got a lot of items you can buy.

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He's looking to do installations so you can buy stuff.

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He'll install it.

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I think he was talking about opening up a Bay for like weekend hangouts where you can

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come work on your car in the Bay.

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I don't even know.

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Benji's doing a lot of really cool stuff and Benji's a really cool guy.

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So we need to support him.

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Yeah.

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But I think he talks a lot about it in his podcast too.

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So if you want more details, you can probably go hear from him over on his podcast.

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Yeah.

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Go to Newfound Overland.

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They're great.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, we drove the old third gen from Michigan to Crocker, Missouri.

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Like 500 and, I don't know, 650 some miles.

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It was, the drive down there was actually pretty decent.

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It was.

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It was nighttime.

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There was really no one on the road.

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The car was smooth for the most part.

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I was about to say, I think all the final rain showers went through by the time we were

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ready to go.

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Well, we had some rain until we got out of Michigan, but once we got out of Michigan,

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it was nice and dry.

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But most of the rain that I worked in that day was gone.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Yeah.

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No, the drive down there was good.

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We left at like 8 PM and got there at what?

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Six in the morning?

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Yes.

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Well, so no, it was six.

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Seven in the morning, our time, because they're an hour behind us.

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Oh yeah, yeah, that too.

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I think that's why I was second guessing what time we actually showed up.

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Eleven hours straight through.

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I slept for an hour on the way down and Mark slept for like three hours after we got there.

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Yeah.

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So that was fun.

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And then once everyone started showing up, we got set up, pulled out our wonderful packout

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kitchen that I 100% recommend anyone build because it honestly was the best kitchen I've

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ever used on any trip.

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And we met a lot of really cool people.

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Coming from, I don't want to say budget because the Tundra was probably the more budget of

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all the builds there, but it wasn't really budget.

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It was just older.

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He did a lot of really expensive stuff on that truck.

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Oh yeah.

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And a lot of it, he made himself too.

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Really smart guy.

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I can not remember his name, but I have his Instagram, so I'll put him in the show notes

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as well.

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And then we met Robbie.

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I don't remember his last name, but he works or he does stuff with Overland America.

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He was there in his Grenadier.

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Actually my first time seeing a Grenadier in person and I have to say, man, is that

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a beautiful rig, man?

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It is.

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And that's like a Land Rover Discovery or something.

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Not a Land Rover, but it's based off the disco.

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But I mean, that stock, all he did to it was slap a roof over it.

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He put a roof top 10 on it.

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That's just, it's insane that we have manufacturers still building cars to that level.

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What who is the guy who had the really nice taco, the super well built taco?

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Oh, I don't remember.

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I don't think I actually called him name.

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He worked with Overland America too though.

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Cause I know the forerunner, the Nixie was said fast.

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That's steadfast.

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And I've been talking to him like all day.

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It's just a real Tacoma.

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So, yeah.

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And then we had, man, I better just pull up Instagram because I can find them all on Instagram.

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You'd probably find them quicker that way.

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Oh, Hey, little shout out.

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And all that I'm on Instagram, right, our friends over at radical road hazards.

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They have the cab on the Dodge.

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It looks like.

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Nice.

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I think it's all that earlier.

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Unless he bought another one.

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He bought a power wagon.

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He bought another one.

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Oh my God.

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Why did he need to buy another one?

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Well, I'm going to have to drive the mile over to his house and bullshit with him tomorrow.

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So, but anyways, follow radical road hazards on Instagram.

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They do some really cool stuff and they're local to us.

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So we may as well give them a shout out.

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I'm trying to find that guy that built his rooftop tent.

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Oh, I don't remember that one.

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That was a cool, that was a cool rooftop.

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I didn't even realize it was homemade until someone bought it up.

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Dude, it is by far one of the best rooftop tent setups I've ever seen.

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Maybe I'm not going to find them faster on here.

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Cause all I see is a bunch of people.

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I think he likes something though.

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I can find them that way.

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Queen city off road.

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So yeah, we met queen city off road.

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He's got a super sick taco with a home built rooftop tent slash camper and he did all of

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He built the frame out for the tent.

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He made an access panel into his bed.

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That's actually his main way of getting into the tent is from inside his bed.

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And it's just, it's a super sick, super sick build.

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I mean, other than how cool everyone's builds are, I guess there's not a whole lot to say

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about the event really other than a shop is sick and there's lots of cool stuff for sale.

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There's lots of cool stuff.

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And go ahead.

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I was about to say in fact, I won a prize that he sells there too.

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No, the, you won the, uh, I do not remember what brand that pop up.

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I did not remember.

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I want to say it's like a fire spot, something like, yeah, we got a nice pop up.

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I just saw it going from being stupid.

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Oh my God.

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It was, and now it doesn't want to love me.

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Fireside pop up.

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That that pop up fire pit, man.

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It seemed to burn cleaner than what a ground fire pit did.

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It seemed to burn hotter than a ground fire pit and the cleanup was so fast and easy.

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And like the morning of we were getting ready, Benji realized that we were up and going like,

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oh no, they started firing their pit and he transferred over to the other pit without

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So fricking cool.

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Um, and we're going to be working on some grill options for that, I think.

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So I guess stay tuned for that.

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Maybe we'll start a botches off road store that hasn't been stuck.

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Maybe sell some botches off road gear, some botches off road coffee, some botches off

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road whiskey, which is really just my piss in a bottle.

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I don't know about that one there, but okay.

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We could, we could sell our botches off road whiskey at varying alcohol levels because

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I drank more that day.

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We could do aged.

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Oh, I don't sound good at all.

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Maybe that wouldn't be whiskey though.

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Maybe it'd be kombucha.

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So stay tuned.

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We might be working on a store intent.

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Um, yeah, man, it was just, it was a really cool event.

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There was a lot of cool stuff.

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Um, the community in Missouri is drastically different from the community we have in here

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in Michigan.

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And you could even see it in the builds, you know, here in Michigan, you've got someone

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who likes to off road.

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So they build an off road rig and you've got someone who likes to overland.

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So they build an overland rig, but down there, it's the two combined.

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Definitely the two combined.

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So I mean, it, it was a lot of fun.

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It reminded me more of how I remember the overlaying commute or that overland back then.

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That wasn't a term.

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The off road community was when I was in Arizona.

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Um, I don't know if that's just cause we're out West and there are people that had done

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more harder stuff.

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I don't know.

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What about say, cause I think anyone I've watched that dealt with overlaying in general

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are out West more than over here, to be honest.

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We were a bunch of posers here in Michigan.

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That's all we are.

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We slapped some tents on our roof.

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We sleep in them once a month.

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That's about it.

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But yeah, it, it was a really good trip.

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Um, the camp out was fantastic.

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I don't think I've seen that much food in one place in a really, really long time.

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I think that was the special thing there, but it's still, it was, it was, that was the

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friends giving thing.

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But that, that part of the camp out, that was fantastic.

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I don't think Benji could have put together a better event.

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No, the band was good.

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And this campground literally we camped.

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Well, we slept in sleeping bags on the ground, but our feet were almost dangling over a drop

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off into a river.

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Like it was beautiful.

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It was.

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That was a really cool.

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I wonder how, how much cooler it would be when the water is raised up a little more

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in some areas.

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Cause you can tell where the water raised.

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I almost wouldn't mind going back to Froggy's just to spend some time there.

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Like that.

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It was a really cool campground and the owner was super cool.

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I sat and talked with them around the fire for a while.

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Just all around.

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It was a cool experience.

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Then our, we woke up kind of later than we wanted to on Sunday.

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I'd set my alarm for like six in the morning and then my phone died while I was sleeping.

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So my alarm never went off, but we, we got, we left probably what around nine, I think

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we left.

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And the first probably half of our drive was really uneventful.

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It was just nice, smooth truck was doing everything the truck was supposed to do.

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And then I, we were getting gas and I looked underneath and I realized that there was just

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oil everywhere in the back end of my truck.

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Like absolutely just oil coating the fuel tank, oil coating every single inch of space

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it could cover.

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The oil was coming up the tailgate onto the window.

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And so we climbed under and we found that the, the pinion seal was, which leaked a little

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before.

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So I probably should have fixed it.

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But it was absolutely destroyed.

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Fluid was just pouring out of it.

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So we pulled into an O'Reilly's got it apart in like what?

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Eight minutes.

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I think eight minutes.

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It didn't take long.

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They had the part in stock.

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So I grabbed that and a seal puller.

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We popped it out, put it all back together.

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We're done in like 25 minutes.

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What tried to pop it out.

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Oh yeah.

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No, the old seal was so rusted that every time I pulled on it, it just disintegrated

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into pieces.

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Yep.

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But finally I got it out.

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Thank God.

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So got that out, got a new one put in, got the truck put back together.

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And then we, oh, we drove down through, uh, we went through St. Louis.

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Yep.

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I'm trying to remember what city we ended up, uh, finding that guy on mesh tastic.

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Oh, I think that was Illinois.

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No, I think it was before.

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Was that still Missouri?

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But anyway, we made a connection on mesh tastic, a guy who was, uh, he was from Texas.

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Um, and he was just passing through.

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So we had a little chat over the chat room and then got back on the road.

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Um, stopped in Danville, Illinois.

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Is that where Josh lives?

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Yeah.

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We stopped in Danville, Illinois and had a beer with a friend of the show, Josh.

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Um, it was fun.

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Haven't seen him in a while.

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So it was nice to, you know, sit down and have a beer with him.

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And then we just headed back up to Michigan and it was just nice, easy truck did well.

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Nothing really broke other than opinion.

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I didn't park because he farted too much.

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As if.

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We I don't think we use the fart extractor once.

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Did we just eat that clean on the strip?

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I think we did.

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I think the only time we had an incident was when I farted outside of the Oakland somehow

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at Leinard and gas station.

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Oh, that's right.

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I was like, good God, it's just such a small truck.

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It holds farts like crazy.

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But all sun roof pop open that back window.

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That's it.

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Flushes out real quick.

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Yeah.

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I guess that's our, uh, our post trip, uh, information there.

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It really, it was just nice, easy.

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Great time.

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Real great.

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It was a great time.

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We have video and someday we'll sit down and edit video and make a video about it.

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Um, yeah, we got to work on that.

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We got to get better about doing video, man.

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Yeah.

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We have a YouTube channel for anyone who doesn't know.

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I link it in every show note.

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There is exactly zero videos on it.

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Um, so yeah, that's great.

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Oh yeah.

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This is a great time for an ad read.

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So for the ad, if anyone on here is listening and would like to, I don't know if you, maybe

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you have an off road shop or you make ding dongs to put on Molly panels or you've got

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middle fingers that people can put on their antennas for $15 a month.

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This, uh, little 30 seconds slot could be yours and you could send us a little money

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and we'll talk about you and how great you are, even if we hate you.

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Um, so yeah, please reach out.

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We would love to put you in here.

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Yeah.

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I guess that's an ad read back to your regularly programmed show.

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Um, yeah, I really think that's all I've got.

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That's a 15 minute episode, but Hey, it's better than nothing.

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Right.

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And Gavin should, what is going on?

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Sorry for any audio quality problems.

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Gavin should be back, um, next week he said he's feeling quite a bit better today.

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And I guess keep him in your prayers if you're listening.

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Cause he really had a bad bout of pneumonia there for awhile.

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Um, but that's it from us.

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Have a very good Thanksgiving.

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I guess Thanksgiving will be over when this episode comes out.

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Have a very good post Thanksgiving recovery.

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Yeah.

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Later.

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Yeah.

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See you guys.

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you