1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Welcome to Batches Off-Road. 2 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,560 Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping to 3 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,600 rock landing, and all things to do with the outdoors. 4 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Today we have the full crew and we're going to do a little 30 minute mini stowed on being 5 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,200 a dummy. 6 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,200 Everybody's a dummy. 7 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Everybody's a dummy. 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Yes. 9 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:56,280 But specifically what makes you a dummy if you don't have it in your over landing setup, 10 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,040 your rig, your vehicle, whatever. 11 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:07,900 And of course this is not meant to be a comprehensive guide, but this is stuff that we feel like 12 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:13,720 if you don't have this as a beginner or if you don't have this intermediate or as someone 13 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,000 who's out there doing it pretty regularly, then come on. 14 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,480 Like you should. 15 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,680 So I'll start off. 16 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Let's see, anything to do with like first aid kits. 17 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,720 You don't have a first aid kit in your vehicle for you, your family or someone else or like 18 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,200 a tourniquet, not like one of those cheap Walmart ones that you can get that are like 19 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:45,280 four inches by four inches and have like three band-aids and alcohol pad and some aspirin. 20 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,280 Mark looks like he's looking up like, fuck, I got one of those in my car. 21 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,280 No, I got nothing in my truck. 22 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,280 I got nothing. 23 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,280 I need to do it. 24 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,720 I have electrical tape. 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Yeah, see I firmly, and I will stand by this. 26 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,280 I firmly believe that you need to have some kind of medical kit with you when you're out 27 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,280 doing it. 28 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,840 I've had a couple of times, I actually gashed my finger last year so bad that I would have 29 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,000 needed some kind of stitch. 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Thankfully I filleted it, but I was bleeding so fucking bad that no, there was something 31 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,000 there, gauze and stuff might have held it. 32 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 It was good. 33 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000 I ended up using super glue. 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,400 I would say in that situation, you super glue. 35 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:33,760 Yeah, I ended up using super glue and thankfully the filleted finger was okay for most of the 36 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,160 trip, but I super good at waiting for that to dry. 37 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,440 I put a band-aid over it to the corners would still bleed a little bit, but I filleted that 38 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,320 bitch pretty good and we were out in the middle of nowhere. 39 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,800 And shit can happen. 40 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,120 The botches yearly off-road trip. 41 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,840 We almost had the Toyota fall down on Mark's leg or someone's leg while we were working 42 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,920 on it. 43 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:04,440 Now let's say that that crushes his leg and created a large open wound. 44 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,640 We would need some kind of tourniquet to- 45 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:07,640 Yeah, T-shirt is- 46 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:09,360 Shut up, shut up. 47 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,360 To slow the bleeding. 48 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,960 But that's the same thing though, is you would need something to help plug the wound. 49 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,400 You would need something to help treat the pain. 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,560 And I didn't mean shut up as a like, can you use that? 51 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Yes. 52 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,560 We have boots. 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,560 It can work infinitely better. 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Yes. 55 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,440 So that's, so like having a, and it's just responsible for you, especially if you have 56 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,440 like you and your loved one with you or a family, if it came down, you'd never forgive 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,080 yourself if it came down to you needing something out of that med kit, you didn't have it. 58 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Yep. 59 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,320 So you'd never forgive yourself. 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,920 So that's my first thing that I would say, and it doesn't mean you're a dummy dummy, 61 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,920 but it means that you need to get your shit together and think about making your first 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,120 aid kit. 63 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,520 If you don't have a first aid kit and no knowledge on how to fix things without a first aid kit, 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,000 then you're a dummy. 65 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Dummy. 66 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Then you're a dummy. 67 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Straight dummy. 68 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:13,080 But if you at least can make a tourniquet or know how to stop bleeding or have any general, 69 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:19,600 I'm going to say field medical background with quotations around it guys. 70 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:26,100 I know this isn't video, so if you don't have any type of knowledge at all on how to treat 71 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,800 a wound, then you're a dummy. 72 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,800 If you don't have any kind of medicine with you, and this would be following the first 73 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:39,640 aid kit, and I only want to expand on this because of my son, I have had to go home and 74 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,480 or go to the doctor because my son was having a fever during his teething phase while we 75 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:51,880 were out camping one time, and his fever got to about 102, and that's where you don't want 76 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,280 it to be for an infant. 77 00:04:54,280 --> 00:05:01,100 So it got into a danger zone, and regrettably, after we had looked through our checklist 78 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:05,920 and found out that we did not bring any kind of Tylenol or anything to help reduce the 79 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,560 fever, we had to leave, and we had to get him somewhere where he could get treated real 80 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,560 quick. 81 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:21,800 So that, I mean, not that this would have helped Derek's kid any, but Derek had an emergency 82 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:28,600 medical situation during Labor Day that if it was something else, as far out as he was 83 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,560 from a hospital, it could have been bad. 84 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:40,280 Thankfully, that was something much different, but it's still the fact that he was about 85 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:46,600 45 minutes away from a nearest medical facility, and if it was something else that had happened 86 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:55,160 physically, like a cut or some kind of wound, then it would have been very much different, 87 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,800 you know, a very different story than if nobody had anything. 88 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,600 So med kits and medical supplies. 89 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:08,160 If you have a kid, make sure you have the medical supplies needed for them specifically, 90 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,760 like Jordans, Tylenol, so on. 91 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,760 What about you, Alex? 92 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Anything else? 93 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,760 What do you think? 94 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,760 I think you said tire in the last episode. 95 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,840 I mean, yeah, spare tire or a way to patch a tire is pretty important. 96 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:20,840 Yeah. 97 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:27,520 So I'll amend my prior statement in the last episode just for you, since you don't have 98 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:34,960 a spare tire, that if you don't have a spare tire and you don't have a way to patch a tire, 99 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,720 then you're a dummy. 100 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Or at least wheel with somebody who has a spare tire. 101 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,600 You're a dummy if you rely on everybody else for everything. 102 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,560 I mean, look, it's... 103 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Sorry. 104 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,560 No, go ahead, buddy. 105 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:55,440 When you look at the MST group, was it Drummond that all of them slashed all their tires at 106 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,440 the same time? 107 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,600 I don't think any of them actually had a spare on them. 108 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Yeah, that's not great, guys. 109 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Just run run flats. 110 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,040 Yeah, sure. 111 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,040 Yeah. 112 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Yeah, once this really goes, I'll do that. 113 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:22,320 No, I mean, like I said, I run about 50-50 solo to group camps, so not having someone 114 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,720 to patch my tire up or having a spare makes zero sense. 115 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,520 And you do not want to be an overlander with all your cool little overlanding kit. 116 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Be stuck on the side of the road because you have a fucking spare tire or a patch kit. 117 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:37,600 That's embarrassing. 118 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,160 So yeah, dummy. 119 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,560 What about you, Mark? 120 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Anything you could think of that maybe is just so common sense? 121 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,560 Spare parts, spare fluids. 122 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,240 What do you think? 123 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,160 And honestly, spare fluids. 124 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:05,520 Because like I unintentionally removed the giant jug of power steering fluid I had on 125 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,280 our camping trip, thinking that the sealant I bought would fix that, which it didn't. 126 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,800 So I had to go out and buy another big jug of power steering fluid. 127 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,480 So now I got two big jugs of power steering fluid at home. 128 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Yeah. 129 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:30,240 I would say having replacement fluids, like a quart of the more important ones. 130 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Or even half a quart if you could. 131 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,480 Oil? 132 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Oil? 133 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,480 I would do a full gallon. 134 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Because... 135 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Yeah, I would do, like for me, I would do like a couple quarts if I could, space-wise. 136 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,880 The only reason I say to do a full gallon for oil, let's say, depending on how your 137 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,080 vehicle is set up, let's say you somehow get some kind of oil leak. 138 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,280 Don't notice it until your low oil light comes on. 139 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Well now you're going to need almost a gallon to be able to run that truck. 140 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Yeah. 141 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,520 Yeah. 142 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,280 That's a valid point. 143 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,360 You should always have pepper so you could dump it in your radiator. 144 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,360 That's a half joke, half truth. 145 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,520 I was supposed to say, what is that? 146 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,720 Pepper, if you have a hole in your radiator or a hole in your hose, old farmer's trick 147 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,040 is to dump pepper down there and that pepper will actually clog the hole. 148 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,560 It's obviously a last-ditch effort and you don't want to throw that through your engine 149 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:33,160 unless you actually have to. 150 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 So that was a joke. 151 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,160 J-O-K-E. 152 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Okay. 153 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,560 That's why I said it like that. 154 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:50,400 When I was in high school, I had a little Chevy 1500 V6, it was an 88 I think. 155 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,400 We were out wheeling and we were out in the prairie. 156 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Did you get to go in the prairie before they bulldozed everything? 157 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,880 I did. 158 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,680 I did not wheel it, but I was out to see it. 159 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,600 I knew all of that. 160 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,560 Do you know where the whoops were where it was just like whoop, whoop, whoop? 161 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:13,720 I was going over those at like 65 in this little Chevy and the horn bracket punched 162 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,840 through my radiator. 163 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,040 We put a gallon of water in it, drove it to the gas station on M82, bought some bubble 164 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,860 gum, chewed the bubble gum until it was soft, touched the radiator and drove it all the 165 00:10:29,860 --> 00:10:33,440 way to my dad's house on McClellan. 166 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:39,640 I think the old farm trick is it's bubble gum and pepper in the radiator, but you're 167 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,640 never using that radiator again. 168 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:50,000 If you ever do that, your best bet is to change out your radiator, your pump, your hoses, 169 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:57,400 and then still hope that it didn't get any clogs in any of your other system. 170 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,760 That is a joke, but if you are stranded in the middle of nowhere and you need to get 171 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,520 out, that is something you can do. 172 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,720 In that case, Mark's phone number is 231-635-5309. 173 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:19,480 I'm sitting here thinking, I'm like, is that the song phone number? 174 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,840 No, it's part of it. 175 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,840 Part of it's in there. 176 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Yeah. 177 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:31,200 But yeah, I mean, so yeah, definitely spare fluids, I would say is pretty good to have. 178 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,200 Especially water. 179 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:41,280 I would say if you're overlanding, having rations for at least a day, two days would 180 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,280 be smart. 181 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,920 I don't know if you're ready to make. 182 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Yeah. 183 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,280 I would say it makes you a dummy if you don't have them, as long as that you have a way 184 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,000 of providing it for yourself or your family. 185 00:11:53,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Especially, you know, this is country wide, 90% of overlanding in the United States, you've 186 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:06,240 got a gas station, you've got a fast food place, you've got something within five miles. 187 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Maybe 10 miles. 188 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,240 Yeah. 189 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,400 So I wouldn't say that it makes you a dummy, but I will say that if you end up in a precarious 190 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,360 situation, your car breaks down. 191 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Vehicle broke, yeah, about to say car breaks down, you can't turn it back on. 192 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,200 Yeah, you can't get out. 193 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:27,000 And maybe, and I'm just theoretically here, like, you know, something happens to where 194 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 you can't walk your way back. 195 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,000 It's, you know, 15, 20 miles. 196 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,640 That's not doable for you. 197 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Chances are, like, let's say it's in the UP, it's 15 miles. 198 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,840 And that 15 miles isn't horribly unbelievable, I would say. 199 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,720 If you take some trails, I think 15 miles would be, yeah, we'll just say that. 200 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,720 15 miles to the nearest town and you broke down. 201 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,440 The chances of you coming across someone in the middle of the summer is not the worst, 202 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,520 fall or spring, maybe a little different. 203 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,960 So winter's yeah, winter. 204 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,920 If you're out there and you get stranded in the middle of the winter, you're in a much 205 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,440 different situation. 206 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,440 You better have food. 207 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,440 It don't matter how close the gas station that would make you a dummy. 208 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,440 That would make you a dummy. 209 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:23,160 There is a sign at Chris Point about in the UP about two girls that got stranded in an 210 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:32,880 SUV and survived off of Girl Scout cookies and hot Cheetos or Cheetos. 211 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,960 And that was like back in 2015 or something like that. 212 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,760 So there's a lesson to be learned. 213 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,600 They tried to go out to Chris Point in spring, I think it was, while there was snow. 214 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,600 They got stuck for multiple days. 215 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,800 And so having food. 216 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,080 Yeah, I mean, it's just smart. 217 00:13:53,080 --> 00:14:00,960 If you do those, if you do not the like army MREs, but if you do like those MREs, like 218 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,120 what you do, are they blue mountain or something like that? 219 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,480 Yeah, I have mountain house. 220 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,160 I have peak mountain house for about 10 bucks a piece. 221 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,480 And if you just don't get McDonald's once a week, you can afford two mountain houses 222 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,680 and they're, they're small, but not small as in quantity, but they pack small. 223 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,800 They pack small, you could fit three or four days worth in a pretty small space. 224 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,920 And what's nice about these is that if you portion correctly how you are supposed to 225 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,120 with these, each one of those packs has two servings in it. 226 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Yep. 227 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:42,800 So if you have four packs, you have eight days, you know, so between one person for 228 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,760 one person, four days for two people. 229 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,400 I mean, obviously we're not going to start splitting hairs with how small you can get 230 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,400 it. 231 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:58,440 But so yeah, I mean, having some kind of Russian, especially depending on your situation is 232 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,440 a smart move. 233 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:05,000 What about you and Alex, anything else you think? 234 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Recovery. 235 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Yeah. 236 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Oh yeah. 237 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,440 If you don't have, if you don't have at least a toe strap, you should not be going out on 238 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,440 the trail. 239 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,480 A hundred percent, a hundred percent. 240 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:22,000 If you don't have a toe strap, if you don't have a winch and then you don't have any way 241 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,020 to self recover, a dummy. 242 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:28,560 Dummy if you're wheeling alone. 243 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Yes. 244 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,560 Not dummy. 245 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,120 If you're really, I would say that in these situations I'm talking solo. 246 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,880 So yeah, if you have no way to self recover, you're a dummy. 247 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Yeah. 248 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:45,040 And I'm going to say this and Alex will disagree with me, but that's why we're a great team 249 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,200 here. 250 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:53,880 If you don't have, if you don't have a winch and you don't have a pair of at least max 251 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:02,120 tracks type traction boards to help you, then I would say that makes you dumbier. 252 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,120 I agree. 253 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,920 I mean, I have seen multiple occasions where they do help people who are on the brink of 254 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,080 sinking in sand. 255 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:18,080 I have seen people now multiple times throughout some of my videos that I've watched who have 256 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,160 gotten them out of pretty sticky situations. 257 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,280 I how much are max tracks? 258 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Max tracks, the brand are like two to $300. 259 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,240 How much for your? 260 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,720 I have a middle of the road. 261 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,720 I have X bowl and there are a hundred dollars. 262 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:41,560 So if you, let's say you don't buy those, you're a third of the way to a semi decent 263 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,560 winch. 264 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Yeah. 265 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Like I'm not including your, not including your, uh, your plate or anything else. 266 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,360 Just just your right. 267 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Right. 268 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Right. 269 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Yeah. 270 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,080 But I mean, just in general, if I were to be in a situation where I had to decide where 271 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:02,200 my money was best spent, I would completely bypass getting the tracks and going to a winch. 272 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Yeah. 273 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,200 Because yes, for sure. 274 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,880 I'm not saying max tracks to winch and you don't pick a winch. 275 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,240 You're dumb. 276 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,000 I'm not going to say that max tracks are useless, right? 277 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,760 But nine times out of 10 max tracks are pretty freaking useless. 278 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Yeah. 279 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:30,760 They have a place and I will say that if you are stuck to your frame rails in mud, well, 280 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,880 I would say sand's different. 281 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,080 I tried to use them in sand. 282 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:41,360 They are if you're, you should be able to dig the sand away from your tires enough to 283 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,640 create a ramp with the man. 284 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Then they just shoot the max track out behind the truck. 285 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Yep. 286 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,920 That's not how you use them. 287 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,920 You put them on his tire, right? 288 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,920 You're not supposed to put them flat. 289 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,920 You're supposed to put them at an angle. 290 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,920 Right. 291 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:01,440 And then the tire picks them up and throws them behind it. 292 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,720 So, yeah, so we had a screen here. 293 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,960 Yes, I see your screen. 294 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Put them into the hole. 295 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,960 You have this. 296 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,960 Yep. 297 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Like this. 298 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:12,960 Put them in like this. 299 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,960 Yep. 300 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,960 And then your wheel goes in. 301 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,280 It should not be dislodging them and then throwing them out. 302 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,120 So then what happens is when the tire starts to climb it, they pull underneath the tire 303 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:25,120 and then shoot out behind it. 304 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:26,800 We did this. 305 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,320 We did this on Duncan's truck. 306 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,320 What three or four times before we said, screw this and winched him out. 307 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Yep. 308 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,640 I am going to go on a limb here and say that Duncan's truck might have been a little different 309 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,400 situation because of parties involved. 310 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Alex, this is a really common situation. 311 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,520 A lot of people have this problem. 312 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:56,840 Now the next tangent to this is that if you're using Max Trax, you have to have locked diffs. 313 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,440 They do not work on open diffs. 314 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,440 Yep. 315 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Oh, which is what his problem was. 316 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,120 He was on open diffs. 317 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:11,080 So as soon as his tire broke traction, it just grabbed the Max Trax and ripped it out 318 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,080 of there. 319 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:20,760 Okay, so that's not necessarily Max Trax fault as much as it is just a fault of the truck 320 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,760 in situation. 321 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Yeah. 322 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,240 You have to have a locked diff. 323 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,480 To make them useful nine times out of 10, you have to have a locked diff. 324 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:35,640 I want to say that there was a way to get around that by doing diagonally front to rear 325 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,640 or rear to front across from each other. 326 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,680 So like driver side, front passenger side, rear. 327 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,760 If your transfer case is open, that doesn't matter. 328 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,520 If you're open, open, that doesn't matter because only one tire will have to spin. 329 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,920 It was just supposed to be a more direct way to be able to get out. 330 00:19:51,920 --> 00:20:01,600 So having your right rear passenger tire on a Max Trax and your front driver's side on 331 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,120 Max Trax, I think that's what the recovery people I was watching at least. 332 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:12,200 If you're open, open, which most Toyota's are open, open, then when you do that, only 333 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,280 one tire is going to spin and that is the one that could spin the easiest. 334 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,800 If you're not locked, Max Trax cannot help you. 335 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:27,080 Let me also say, and so this is why I said this earlier, which is Alex and I have different, 336 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:32,580 typically when we talk about Max Trax, we have a different, like I find that you should 337 00:20:32,580 --> 00:20:40,440 have them because I think for the price point of a cheap set of them, they do more good 338 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,960 than harm having them. 339 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,880 But I will say that if you use Max Trax, there's a lot of prep that goes into making sure that 340 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,480 you get out. 341 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,120 And then if you don't prep correctly, then you're not going anywhere. 342 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:57,580 If you don't dig out in front of your tires, you don't give yourself the best chance to 343 00:20:57,580 --> 00:21:01,840 succeed the first time, then you are going to fail the first time. 344 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:08,760 And every time after, but yeah, I mean, like I said, there are certain issues, times where 345 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Max Trax don't help. 346 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,000 I will, I can, I can agree to that for sure. 347 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,360 I would definitely say if you're in a mud pit, then don't even bring them out. 348 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,140 Yeah, no point. 349 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:21,840 If you're sunk, you're sunk. 350 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,920 Call someone. 351 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,160 But I know that you can use a farm jack to help self recover. 352 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:34,680 I don't have a farm jack and so my thing is, is I'm not going to put myself in that situation 353 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 with my family where I need to self recover like that. 354 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Back in the day when I was too poor for a winch, when I was a poor boy, I carried a 355 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,560 farm jack and a chain to be able to get myself out. 356 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,560 Yeah. 357 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,560 It works. 358 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,560 It works. 359 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,560 It's scary. 360 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,840 It's really hard, but it does work. 361 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,900 Yeah. 362 00:21:54,900 --> 00:22:02,320 So not having any kind of recovery equipment is dumb. 363 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520 And it's almost worse when you have someone come and go, Hey, you need help? 364 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,600 Well, I don't have a strap because obviously this guy's not, you know, driving around to 365 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,320 recover people in your, in your rig doesn't have a recovery strap to get them out, get 366 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,960 yourself out that you're a dummy for doing it. 367 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,920 But yeah, I would say, yeah, what are we covered? 368 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920 You got, I would say parts too, right? 369 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,640 Having spare parts. 370 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:34,840 If you don't have, uh, most commonly failed spare parts with you, Toyota's like Alex said 371 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:41,720 in the previous episode, it would be like alternator, knuckle, CV axle, CV axle, CV 372 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,720 axle. 373 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,520 Um, and then I think I said tie rod. 374 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,000 Now I agree with alternator. 375 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,740 A lot of carrying knuckles, carrying knuckles is a little excessive at the very least. 376 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:58,640 You should have one spare CV and one spear spare alternator. 377 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,360 Are CVs, um, specific left to right or drivers to passenger? 378 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:09,720 Some cars, some cars, they shouldn't be mine. 379 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Isn't it? 380 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Mine's the same on both sides. 381 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Okay. 382 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,720 Yep. 383 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,720 Is I couldn't remember. 384 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,720 I know that they are for some cars. 385 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:22,360 I just can't remember if our Toyotas are like that, but if, if they are not, and if you 386 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,800 could use them for the left or the right, there should be no reason why you wouldn't 387 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,840 have one then at that point. 388 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,400 And because I really have like carrying around two CV shafts or CV axles be kind of stupid, 389 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,400 like not stupid, but very space. 390 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,640 I'm, uh, what I'm going to do is underneath my back. 391 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Cause you know, I have all that space from where I cut all that crap out. 392 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,560 So I'm going to weld carriers along each frame rail underneath my cargo space to put my CV 393 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,560 axles. 394 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Yeah. 395 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,040 So I'm going to put either outside of the truck, out of my storage space, put a big 396 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,880 old boot on the front of them so they don't rust a bunch or crew, a bunch of dirt and 397 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,880 shit. 398 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,880 Yeah. 399 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,440 I mean something like that. 400 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,440 Yep. 401 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,520 So, so what do we got? 402 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:11,360 We got, uh, tires or a way to plug them or spare wheel or where to plug them. 403 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,980 We have spare parts. 404 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:15,360 We have fluids. 405 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,360 We have fluids. 406 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,920 Uh, we have spare rations or food. 407 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,680 The this goes without saying, but if you don't have water or spare, you know, if you don't 408 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,360 have water in general, then you need to bring water in. 409 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,760 Ooh, I got one more. 410 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Some kind of air compressor. 411 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Yeah. 412 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,280 I don't care. 413 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,640 There's a lot of old dudes that don't carry air compressors. 414 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,440 And I'm like, what are you doing? 415 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,800 I don't care if it's a cheap little one that plugs into your cigarette lighter. 416 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,640 One way to air up a tire is important to have. 417 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,640 Yeah. 418 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,160 Even if you're not deflating, you need to at least help with the patching. 419 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,440 Yeah. 420 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,160 I would say that for sure. 421 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:07,160 Uh, or maybe even if you don't have a way to jack up your vehicle to any, any of that, 422 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,200 like if you don't have a way to take your own tire off, damn it. 423 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,960 I think on Mark's, we used his, uh, factory jack, didn't we? 424 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,920 Or did we have one? 425 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,640 We, we, oh, we had that in the bottle, right? 426 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,640 Oh yeah. 427 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,640 We had it. 428 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,640 Fuck. 429 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,640 I didn't even remember. 430 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,640 I carry a spare check. 431 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,920 I got a, I have a four jack that I keep on the roof and I forgot that I even had that. 432 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Oops. 433 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,680 Unfortunately for that trip, our jack we usually have on hand was underneath the project forerunner. 434 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,680 So yeah. 435 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Yeah. 436 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,520 So that, that's how it doesn't bother getting another jack stand yet. 437 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,520 They're expensive. 438 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,640 They're like 25 bucks, dude. 439 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,120 You know what I can do with 25 bucks? 440 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,520 Like a blowy and some, uh, blow. 441 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,400 That's like one blowy and some blow. 442 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:05,080 I was going to say, I could get like three taquitos and four monsters with that. 443 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,080 That doesn't get you high. 444 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Why would you want that? 445 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,080 It gets me high and gets me off. 446 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,640 I don't know what you're into, but I really like taquitos and I drink a lot of monsters. 447 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,680 So cream filled taquitos, right? 448 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,680 Yeah. 449 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,680 The jalapeno cream cheese ones. 450 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Love that cream. 451 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,920 What else? 452 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520 I know that there was, oh yes, here we go. 453 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Uh, navigation. 454 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:36,120 You don't have some form of navigation, whether even Google maps, even Google maps, if you 455 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:40,240 don't have some kind of navigation, you're a dummy. 456 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,120 I think that's one of the biggest dummy. 457 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:48,280 It's downloaded navigation, not navigation that you could access with phone service. 458 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080 I mean downloaded and readily accessible. 459 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,520 And if you don't have a way to download it, um, let's say you're looking at Google maps, 460 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,320 let's pretend that you're a noob and you're looking at Google maps and you're like, I 461 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,560 don't have any fucking way to download this screenshot at dummy. 462 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520 Well, what do you mean? 463 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,240 Google maps has a button where you can download all of Michigan. 464 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Oh, I. 465 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,240 Yeah, but you get so much space. 466 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,000 You gotta get exactly where you're going to be at where you want the most of it. 467 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Screenshot it, man. 468 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Screenshot it. 469 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Move up forward. 470 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,840 I mean, it's, I'm just saying like, if you don't know how to do it, don't make stupid 471 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,720 excuses on why you don't have it. 472 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Just screenshot it. 473 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Everybody knows how to do that. 474 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,200 Offline maps are the best. 475 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,060 If you have Onyx, download the offline maps. 476 00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:38,760 If you are passing any visitor stations, you have to take a piss anyway, pick up a map. 477 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Grab their paper map. 478 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,920 I mean, if you don't have any kind of way to get yourself out, I tell you what, if you 479 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:51,840 don't even know how to follow the sun, if you, if you can't get out of your car and 480 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,800 tell me which way north, south, east and west is your dummy and you shouldn't be overlaid. 481 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:03,160 Hey, I feel about because half the time I don't know the sun sets on the west and that's 482 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,720 the best time to do it. 483 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,160 If the sun rises on the east, sets on the west and you could tell everything else from 484 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,160 that. 485 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,880 I could not because I would get north and south mixed up, but that doesn't matter. 486 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,200 I make sure to have your hands out. 487 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,200 Hold your hands out. 488 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,880 West is always on the left. 489 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000 East is always on the right. 490 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,480 So east is on the left. 491 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,920 I know Alex is smart enough. 492 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040 He knows that he was in the military. 493 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,040 He knows. 494 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:40,440 Hey, I always had a fricking a watchman digger, a compass. 495 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920 So yeah, that one, my compass is installed on my dash. 496 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,680 So I got to really be stupid not to follow that. 497 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,680 I got my GPS. 498 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,420 We're good to go. 499 00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:52,680 My internal company's compass is pretty accurate. 500 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:58,720 So if you don't have a way to figure out, if you see railroad tracks, follow railroad 501 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:05,600 tracks, if you see a body of water, like a river go upstream, I believe is the correct 502 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,040 term, follow the upstream. 503 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,760 If you don't have a way in general to find your way back, you have an issue. 504 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080 Onyx has downloadable maps. 505 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Like I said, you can screenshot, you could do paper maps if you're not tracking your 506 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,480 area and you don't have a way to communicate while you're out. 507 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,040 Dummy. 508 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,640 So I think what do you guys think? 509 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Anything else? 510 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,640 No, that's it. 511 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,640 All right. 512 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:38,720 That's our that's our mini episode of what makes you a dummy. 513 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720 So thanks, Mark. 514 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,720 Thanks, Alex. 515 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,720 Thanks. 516 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,720 Fun little episode. 517 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,720 We'll talk to you guys next time. 518 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Later. 519 00:29:48,720 --> 00:30:15,360 Thanks for watching.