1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Welcome to Bacha's Off-Road. Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,680 trail stories, tent camping to rock landing, and all things to do with the outdoors. Today 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,200 is just going to be one of our regularly scheduled episodes. Nothing fancy, nothing special. Just 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:31,040 gonna chit chat, talk about our builds, talk about what's going on right now. And got Alex 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,280 and Mark here on the same line. How's everyone doing? 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:42,720 No, you know, life's good. Can't complain. 7 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Yep. You guys have a good night. Just stay up for the election. 8 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Oh yeah. I stayed up. I went to the rally and then I stayed up. It was terrible. 9 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Well, you were up all the way till like, I was up till like 3 a.m. 10 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Because that's when the last like votes went in. 11 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,680 I passed out. I probably passed out on 1130. 12 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,200 I was gonna say, Caitlin told me you did. So I was waiting to snitch on you. 13 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,440 Yeah. 14 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,360 He was like, you're the snorer next to me. 15 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,800 But no, I stayed up. My buddy Hayden and I were watching the results and then watching some 16 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,040 comedy and stuff on the side while we were watching it. 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,520 I mean, the results were pretty comedic. 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Yeah. TikTok this morning is pretty interesting, too. 19 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,600 The view today, I watched the view and that was. 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Oh, God, I'm so sorry. 21 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,760 Yeah. Oh, I fucking made you mad, dude. 22 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,240 But we're. 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,040 Yeah. 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,280 Okay. This is the last politics thing. This doesn't need to be a politics episode. 25 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,000 No, it won't be. It's not what we're about, but. 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Whoopi cracks me up because if you go back, I think it was like eight years ago, 27 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,200 there's videos of her. Oh, Donald, I love you so much and giving him hugs and stuff. 28 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,040 And then now look at what she's turned into. 29 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:06,960 No, there was. I can't remember her first name, Sunny, Sunny Hostin, Sunny Hostin, 30 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,440 something like that. I will say this before I go, since you mentioned Whoopi, 31 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 she was talking about how sad the statistics were with women voting 32 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,840 as far as like the red side goes. 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:25,600 And she was reading some statistics statistics off and read out that 52 percent 34 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,160 of white women voted for Trump. 35 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,680 And then she goes, I'm assuming they're all uneducated white women. 36 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,880 And then went on and other people tried to like cut her off a little bit. 37 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Like, I don't I don't know if I would say that, like, like, because as soon as she said it, 38 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,040 everyone was like, oh, fuck. 39 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,840 And then and then someone even tried to review her. 40 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,840 I said, I don't think it's right to say that 52 percent of white women 41 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,240 who voted for Trump are uneducated. 42 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,720 And she's like, but that's what that's what they say. 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,040 I mean, that's what I'm that's what I could assume. 44 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,080 And then then they went on break a couple of times and come back and she tried to take it all back. 45 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:08,160 Said, well, what the statistics say is on college or women who didn't go to college. 46 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,320 And I'm like, dude, you already fucking and you can take it all back. 47 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,120 And you can hear it in her voice that she was speaking from a point of like passion and she was angry. 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,360 Right. Which the whole cast was. 49 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,720 They were all just saying stupid shit. 50 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,760 But that is the view. 51 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:28,960 And that's part of what makes America so so unique is our First Amendment, 52 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:35,920 the right to talk whatever stupid bullshit you want for and and, you know, and nothing happens. 53 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,080 I you know what? 54 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Fuck it. 55 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,480 I'm going to say it. 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,680 A hot topic. 57 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,360 That's good. This is going to be a hot topic. 58 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,400 This is the other week. 59 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:51,600 But I think that media should not be so widely. 60 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,560 How do I say this without like I feel like free speech is extremely important, 61 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:07,680 but I think there should be a committee or some kind of office that has to go through. 62 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:14,720 And and I mean legitimately fact check without bias before these newsplaces. 63 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,040 Let the stupid shit fly, you know, because at the end of the day, 64 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,440 they're hurting the American public and they're creating more bias and more 65 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,080 more of a divide between red and blue or between us people. 66 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,640 And it hurts us more than it's helping. 67 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:34,320 Yep, I agree. 68 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,760 There should be a ministry of truth. 69 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,200 You heard it from Gavin first. 70 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Ministry of truth. 71 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,480 I honestly believe that I would. 72 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,360 And it's just like you have fact checkers that go back 73 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,240 and fact check through the elections, through the debates. 74 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,840 You have fact checkers that are always making videos after the fact. 75 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Why don't we have these going through? 76 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 And this is the issue is that they're so biased. 77 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,560 You have like Fox that's supposed which is in quoted like a red channel. 78 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,280 And then you have the liberals and then you have the ABC, which is like a blue. 79 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,720 And it's like and they're both slandering each other. 80 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,480 They're both saying stupid shit. 81 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,440 And all that it does is make it worse. 82 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,160 So I think something that one abolishes the red versus blue, 83 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,920 which I don't I believe in free speech. 84 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,080 I believe that people should be able to say what they want to say. 85 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,600 But I don't think they should be able to say it via a news. 86 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,040 If you're getting your news, it should be factual. 87 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,320 And it should be informative to inform the people of real things, 88 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,080 not slander each other and put like false 89 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,560 rhetorics and fear mongering into people's lives. 90 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:58,960 I think that all of these public news organizations, your ABCs, your Foxes, your NBCs, 91 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,920 they should all have something that watches them. 92 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,480 But what's awesome is that we have another route to get our news, which is podcast. 93 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,120 And this is going to be it could easily be the year of the podcast 94 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,240 because you can say whatever you want in a podcast without anyone watching you. 95 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:21,360 You know, and if you own your podcast, like little peek behind the curtain here, 96 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,680 we own our entire stack from the ground up. 97 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,840 We can say whatever we want and never have to worry about getting shut down. 98 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:35,520 And and as an opposing side of that, that also leads to more disinformation. 99 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:42,720 But but because this is a podcasting platform, you have the right to choose 100 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,080 whether you want to listen to that or not. 101 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:50,560 I think that if it's being put and broadcasted as national news, 102 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,560 like these big ones like ABC, Fox, NBC, all these big ones, 103 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,360 I think that there should be a ministry of truth. 104 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:06,400 And I think it should regulate all of this. 105 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,080 No, I agree. 106 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,200 All of your national broadcast news agencies, they should be monitored more. 107 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:18,880 I mean, if someone wants to listen to whoopi go off on how terrible Trump is, 108 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,880 well, we should have. Yeah. 109 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,400 We should have a podcast or the view should be a podcast if they want to tout that kind of crap. 110 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Right. So and obviously, like talk shows are a whole different thing. 111 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,360 They're not those are comedic. 112 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,840 They're not there. They're for a different reason. 113 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,400 But I'm talking actual news stations. 114 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,360 If you're a station or one of these big news corporations, they should all be fact checked. 115 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,440 They should all be put through some rigorous fact checking before they're even released. 116 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 And that's the hot take. 117 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,880 And if you guys want to weigh in on any of that, I think Alex, you agree there should be a ministry of truth. 118 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Mark, what do you think? 119 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,600 I mean, it sounds like something that should be a thing, but you know, 120 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:12,560 so hard to go into that because this is why I pause when I first went to say this is because 121 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,400 it goes pretty in there. 122 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,960 First Amendment wise, like like how far are we going to push it before? 123 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,600 And just not following it. 124 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,120 But it would make it very easy to twist and manipulate things behind our backs 125 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,160 because let's say the ministry of truth decides that, oh, 126 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,920 I hundred Biden's laptop was fake news. 127 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Well, then everyone's going to run with that and won't be able to say otherwise. 128 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:46,880 It should be a hundred people, 50, 50, either side to start. 129 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,800 And it should be fact checking each other until they could come to an agreement. 130 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,520 And if they can't like a fucking judge and jury, if they can't come to an agreement, 131 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,400 that doesn't get out. 132 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,000 I don't know. 133 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,680 I that's obviously not an actual choice, but it's just, let's say 134 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:11,120 real quick that something happens at a college, a car runs through a college. 135 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,360 Someone says, oh, it was a minority because someone did this. 136 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:22,800 And then another news station says, oh, it was a white person because they didn't like a teacher. 137 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,320 You have two conflicting stories and they're both bringing divide. 138 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,360 There needs to be something in between that says, okay, the facts are this. 139 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,760 We have this person in custody. It was this kind of car. 140 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,960 And as a motive, there is none. 141 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,400 So let's not create one. 142 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,960 No, to kind of salt, like to bridge that. 143 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Well, that's what we pay. 144 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,680 And, you know, we, NPR is paid out of our taxes, right? 145 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,680 The national mobile broadcasting, whatever. 146 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:52,400 Yeah. 147 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,520 They're paid out of our taxes, but they went so heavily left. 148 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,680 So now we're paying for one side to get. 149 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,880 So now we're paying to have one side get all their information out and not the other side. 150 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,880 That's why we need a ministry of truth, baby. 151 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,120 That needs to be on a, that needs to be on a teacher. 152 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,080 American needs a ministry of truth. 153 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Even was this, and I just want to double check you. 154 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,800 This is Harry Potter reference, correct? 155 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,600 No, this would be a reference to the book 1984. 156 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Oh, I thought there was a Harry Potter reference ministry of truth or something. 157 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,640 They have the ministry of magic or magic. 158 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,000 Same thing. 159 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,420 Okay. 160 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:33,600 All right. 161 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Onto your regularly scheduled stuff. 162 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,200 Overlanding is a scam. 163 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Yes. 164 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Overlanding is a scam because of the tax. 165 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,080 For me, I don't know. 166 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,680 I like, I like paying a little bit of extra money for some fancy shit here and there. 167 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:50,240 I'm not going to lie. 168 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Oh, we know the, uh, 169 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,000 the, uh, but to me, it, uh, it works. 170 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,480 I don't know. 171 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,840 I, I like the most efficient and cleanest looking option. 172 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:13,280 And sometimes that is the only option for me as far as like, uh, the ability to do it myself 173 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,640 and, or to have friends help. 174 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,880 So I know I was, that might pop up like Alex can help, uh, Mark can help, but they're not 175 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:28,080 going to fab up a folding fucking like an extremely intricate and nicely fabbed, uh, 176 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,360 you know, system for me. 177 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,880 I told you I would. 178 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Yeah. 179 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,160 You were talking to the bridge slide. 180 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:34,800 That's a little different. 181 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,520 I was talking to a slide with a sink and a counter on it. 182 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,480 I want a roof rack that tilts with gas. 183 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Well, yeah, with gas, uh, uh, what the fuck are the struts underneath it? 184 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,360 That's up to like a 60 degree angle. 185 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Dude, I love this slide. 186 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:57,920 I want to undo a latch and slide all of the equipment down. 187 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,360 So I don't ever have to get on the hell. 188 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Yeah. 189 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Hey, if your pockets are, you know, they're not your pocket. 190 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,000 If your pockets are deep enough, I would gladly help you build that. 191 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:08,960 Cause that would be fun. 192 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:14,560 And so, so this is where I find and can he do it? 193 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,440 Can we do it with enough time? 194 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:24,000 And money and practice and tried and, uh, cause cause you have to remember 195 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,680 there's going to be a lot of mock-ups. 196 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,000 There's going to be a lot of mistakes trying to get this done. 197 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,240 So let's factor in. 198 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,200 How long do you think you could have that mocked up? 199 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,960 I have deep pockets between your work week, between Mark's and 200 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,320 Alan's work week for welding. 201 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,000 What do you think? 202 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Two weeks. 203 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:41,600 Bullshit. 204 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,640 If, if that is all I have to do with the amount of time with your work week 205 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,360 and everything, let me finish. 206 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Like, yeah. 207 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,920 If that's the only project I have going at that time with the way my work week 208 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,760 is, you know, I end up with a lot of time when I'm getting paid to work on my own 209 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,360 projects and I could hammer out a lot of that during the week. 210 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:00,480 I don't know. 211 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:07,120 I, to me, I don't see that because I see the fact that I'm, because I'm working 212 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Mark's working, Alan's working any weld fab stuff is typically Alan's real 213 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,520 house and I don't know, I just, I see that taking a lot longer. 214 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:26,480 And all the whole point that I was trying to get at is at some point you get to a 215 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,920 real realization that it's almost more efficient. 216 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,600 To buy it and have it done. 217 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,760 And that's, that's what I was trying to get to. 218 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,160 And I know you're not like discounting that or saying that that's wrong. 219 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,240 I know that you have the ability to do it, but I think that's where Overland 220 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,440 tax and that's where Overland scam gets people is because at the end of the day, 221 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,800 I don't want to have to spend a shit ton of time building it because I don't get 222 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,000 the same satisfaction. 223 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,840 I don't want to have to spend a shit ton of time building it because I don't get 224 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,000 the same satisfaction that other people who build it do. 225 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,080 Like, let's say you, like, it's the same concept with working on your vehicle 226 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,840 that you like to do it. 227 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,760 I absolutely hate working on my vehicle. 228 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,800 That means I failed. 229 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,800 That means I broke something. 230 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,600 That means I failed. 231 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,960 That means I have downtime from what I like to do from my daily driver. 232 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,080 So I look at it completely different and I think it's kind of the same. 233 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,440 If if we're building something like that and it takes me six months to get that 234 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:40,880 six months that I have to wait to utilize that or I could pay extra money, which 235 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:47,680 for something that's prebuilt that I could put on in a day and is ready to roll 236 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,480 that I can utilize six months because time time is not infinite. 237 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,440 As we all know now that big stuff like that, I can see where you're coming from, 238 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,160 but little stuff. 239 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,560 You know, people spend beaucoup bucks on something as simple as like a hot take 240 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,800 twin the twin air compressor. 241 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,080 That's a lot of fricking money. 242 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,600 It is. 243 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,880 And you don't need it. 244 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,600 You can get away with like, say, your little or I guess I've got one now, too. 245 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Those little dual compressors that we bought. 246 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,680 It's the same one that more flight cells. 247 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,800 They're fantastic little compressors. 248 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,520 They'll do everything the ARB will do. 249 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:25,840 Sure. 250 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,680 They take up a little more space. 251 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Sure. 252 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 You can't put them in your engine bay, but if you put an ARB in your engine bay, 253 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,680 it heat bakes and then dies in six months. 254 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:34,880 I don't know. 255 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,760 I've had a lot of people that have a long lasting ARB, right? 256 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:43,680 I mean, there as far as I would know, like these ARBs are one of the best. 257 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,560 I would say they're are they twin cylinder? 258 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,440 I think they're twin. 259 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,000 They're twin. 260 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,040 They're smaller than they're compressors. 261 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,600 They're slower because they don't they're not as large, but 262 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,840 they're slower and they die more often. 263 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,000 There's a lot of people that have issues with those dying because 264 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,680 they're installed in their engine base because that's where ARB, you know, 265 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:10,960 advertises them being installed and anything like Jeep JK, most Toyotas, 266 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,200 they run warm because they run warm that little air compressors getting 267 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,960 hot and staying hot the whole time. 268 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:20,800 I don't know. 269 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,720 It's a convenience. 270 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,080 It's a convenience thing, I guess. 271 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Is it's. 272 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,680 I don't know if I could recess that into like a 273 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,960 plastic access panel. 274 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,600 I'd probably do that inside the vehicle. 275 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Yeah, I've been away from water and hot air, but I've seen them put under 276 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,680 people's driver seats and they last a long time like that. 277 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,960 They're happy, maybe not in Michigan because, you know, you're getting in 278 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,120 with salty boots and that salt soaking into them. 279 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,040 But yeah, no, I wouldn't put it on the floor. 280 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:01,600 But like, for instance, my you open up my back door and you have the like 281 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,320 the fenders, how they flare out and you have access panels for like 282 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,160 jacks and shit, which of course I'm not using. 283 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,120 I'm not going to use my and my jack doesn't get up high enough anymore for 284 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:11,280 that. 285 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,640 But that would be a great place to throw the compressor in. 286 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:24,640 And if I was to do something like that for the size, it would be an 287 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,600 interesting option. 288 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,840 I'm not I wouldn't do it, especially right now, because I have the Thor's 289 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,240 lightning. 290 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Right. 291 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:34,080 But I will say the Thor's lightning is about a nice crack. 292 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,920 The Thor's lightning is about a foot long, about a foot tall. 293 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,320 And that space. 294 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:41,680 Yep. 295 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,160 Space. 296 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,280 It's space is like I said, it's finite. 297 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,240 So if I start getting to a spot where I have more money. 298 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,000 Then time and more money than patients. 299 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:58,880 That might be a reality for me. 300 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,720 But at that point, though, you're kind of buying into a scam there. 301 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,280 And those twin ARBs are not that expensive to make. 302 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,400 So I'm not saying it's a scam in the sense of you're not getting 303 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,000 anything for your return because you are. 304 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,200 There's just if you want, if you're able to put that little bit of extra 305 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,200 work in and work on the backside, it will save you so much money. 306 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,200 Yeah, but I can't make a twin twin cylinder air compressor like that. 307 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,640 You can make something about that size that still twin cylinder. 308 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,480 I personally cannot. 309 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Period. 310 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,840 If I could sit there and study all I want, look at the electrical, how to 311 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:43,600 how to wire in electrical, solder things on and install it, how, you know. 312 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,520 But again, by the time I figure out how to do all that, I'm wasting precious time. 313 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Yeah. 314 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,520 On something that is two hundred dollars more than the fucking thing 315 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,560 I have sitting in my truck. 316 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,720 How much are the air bees now? 317 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,800 I think they're about four. 318 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,960 I want to say like four fifty five. 319 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,200 I was honestly more than that. 320 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,400 I was like, I remember being like six. 321 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,200 They're five eighty on sale from six sixteen. 322 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Okay. 323 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,240 I was I was thinking the six hundred mark. 324 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:21,040 Or I think a lot of our things is it's situational based off of do we need this 325 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,720 or can I even make this? 326 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,760 This is the main thing. 327 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,080 What? 328 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,440 A lot of people don't realize it's very situational based. 329 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Yep. 330 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,120 But like Gavin, you're saying something about a roof system popping off and down. 331 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:34,400 There is a system. 332 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,280 I've seen it. 333 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,280 I was looking at making one myself at the time. 334 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,040 I think it was looking at using what was it? 335 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,120 The aluminum rails. 336 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,880 It's more truja rails. 337 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,120 Yep. 338 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,720 I was. 339 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,200 Yep. 340 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,920 I was going to look into using that for a drop down roof rack system. 341 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,480 I was going to make at one point, but that changed from what I was going to do. 342 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:00,880 That would be going to be on my truck cap. 343 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,760 That honestly would be pretty easy to do because let's say, say your roof rack 344 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,120 you've got right now, right, Gavin? 345 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,320 So we make an extrusion frame that goes all the way around it with crossbars. 346 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,480 And then we put sliders on it. 347 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,080 And then we put gas struts on it. 348 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,960 All of those are easy parts to get and install. 349 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,400 All of them are easy to lay out. 350 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,920 It won't take us long at all. 351 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Now all you do is flip the switch. 352 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,400 The whole thing lifts up and then you grab what drawer you need and it slides down to you. 353 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,760 Yeah. I mean, theoretically in a perfect world, I would agree. 354 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,760 But maybe I'm the glass half empty guy when I'm looking at this and going, there's a lot more 355 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,600 to it than just, yeah, that's pretty easy to match everything up and 356 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,600 welded in, you know what I mean? 357 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,960 To get everything to work just right. 358 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,880 I don't know where the extrusion rail. 359 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,920 You don't even have to weld. 360 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,720 They bolt together. 361 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,320 No, you just bolt together. 362 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Are you talking about the same type of rail that like they're using for like roof racks and stuff? 363 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,320 The roof racks, drawer systems, a lot of the DIY guys use extrusion rails. 364 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Well, what? 365 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:01,680 OK. 366 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,840 And so as a finished product, I don't know if I want a shit ton of holes sitting in my. 367 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,640 I don't know if I want mine to look like a fucking Lego. 368 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,240 You know what I mean? 369 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,600 At that same time. 370 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,840 So well, that point you dress it up. 371 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560 I mean, it's not hard to make stuff to make it look prettier. 372 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Because I know there's a system I saw that I was looking at getting. 373 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,760 That's different than what I'm thinking. 374 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:32,720 I'm taking that same railing of like what Nolan has on to make his roof rack. 375 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,760 Yep. 376 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,360 The slotted like. 377 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,440 I want to say it's like slotted like L channel type. 378 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,080 I don't know. 379 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:40,880 Oh, yeah. 380 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,840 You know what I'm saying? 381 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,480 Yep. 382 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,640 So that's what I was picturing when you said that. 383 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,640 And that's why I was like, it's going to look like fucking Swiss cheese and I don't want that. 384 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,640 But no extrusion rail is super cool. 385 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,320 It's not cheap, but I mean, that system you're talking about wouldn't be cheap. 386 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,720 No, no, I would say it'd probably be like six thousand something like that. 387 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:04,160 But that was just a theoretical like that was just the first thing that popped up in my mind as an example. 388 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,280 But to me, it's just I value my time more than I value. 389 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,800 The. 390 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,720 The time that it takes to build that kind of shit. 391 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:23,760 And like I said, like there's there's people that are like like Corey from MST's talked about, I think, trying to build his own like rooftop tent. 392 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,040 Yep. 393 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:31,200 And you can, of course, argue up and down all day long that you could build one much cheaper with better quality material. 394 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Sure. 395 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,560 But I don't have the time. 396 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,680 I don't have the workspace. 397 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,640 I don't have the tools. 398 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,360 And at the end of the day, I don't have the tools. 399 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,320 I don't have the tools. 400 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,360 I don't have the tools. 401 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:57,440 At the end of the day, I don't have the craftsmanship knowledge, the carpentry knowledge, the fabrication knowledge and any of the minor CAD knowledge you might need to fabricate smaller parts that fit just right for what you need. 402 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:08,000 And that's why I pay other companies to figure that out for me so that I don't spend a year and a half designing this. 403 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:08,800 Right. 404 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,600 I hate. 405 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,120 I don't want to. 406 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,680 The time that I spend doing that, I can spend with my son. 407 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,720 I could be camping. 408 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,160 I could be organizing my vehicle in another way. 409 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,440 I can take a trails. 410 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,040 And that's how I look at it. 411 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,080 I think it's to me because I don't already possess those skills and I don't have to. 412 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:27,440 Right. 413 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,000 I don't see a need in wasting the time to do it, but I could definitely. 414 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:39,760 If you do have the skills and you have the way to do it for some of the guys that actually can build their stuff. 415 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,040 Absolutely. 416 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,280 I absolutely more than I've never. 417 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Of course, I'm not saying that you should always build or buy rather than build. 418 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,080 There are things that make sense. 419 00:23:50,080 --> 00:24:02,000 Like my drawer system is going to be built, not bought, but that's because I do per I do have some of the skills required and some past knowledge to do it. 420 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,320 So. 421 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:07,040 And I'm not saying I'm not necessarily saying there's anything wrong with buying either. 422 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,880 I know I come off that way. 423 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,160 Sometimes that's not what I mean. 424 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Yeah. 425 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Because to me, if I can save the money, I've got the time. 426 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,120 I really do. 427 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,880 I don't mind taking time off of wheeling. 428 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,000 If it means I'm building something, no one else is going to buy it. 429 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,040 I've seen before. 430 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Sure. 431 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,240 Yeah. 432 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,040 And that's perfect. 433 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,160 And that's great for you. 434 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:24,720 Absolutely. 435 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:33,280 There's an analogy, not really an analogy, but I guess it was a video that I watched and it was like a World of Warcraft game. 436 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:39,200 And there was a girl that had worked hard, grinded her shit out, and she got some really cool armor and weapons. 437 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,960 And she had the new guy out. 438 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,800 And then he's like level two. 439 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,960 And all of a sudden, he just bought fucking armor swords that match your same stats. 440 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,000 And it's like, all right, I'm ready to go. 441 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 And she's like, no, you have to grind. 442 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,880 You have to build it. 443 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,720 You have to work your way up. 444 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,360 And he's like, why? 445 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,560 She's like, it's cheating. 446 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,480 You didn't have to work for it. 447 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:15,040 He goes, so that 40 hours I spend a fucking week or 45, 50 hours I spend a week working my ass off to be able to afford an expendable income to use on this isn't good enough for you. 448 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,200 And that's the same kind of thing. 449 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:39,120 It's like, and I'm not saying that towards you, but I am saying that towards people who throw shade towards the buy, not bill or built, not by, you know, you know, because there are, there are some people that are like, if you don't build everything on your rig, then are you really like they throw shade at you for it. 450 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920 And there's just things that I have skills that that I can. 451 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,200 And then there are things that I don't. 452 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:52,320 And if I could support another company that has taken the time to do it themselves, which I have worked my ass off to have that expendable income to do so. 453 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,360 Then I will. 454 00:25:53,360 --> 00:26:04,640 The only caveat I have there are there are a lot of companies right now that are taking a product that is not at all meant for overlanding and then making it look overlanding and then marketing as an overland product. 455 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,440 And then as a consumer, you need to do your job. 456 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Yep. 457 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,360 And research these and then research if you really need it, or if you just want it. 458 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:13,840 Right. 459 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:21,360 So my biggest, and I'll use an example for this is the water, water systems and tanks right now. 460 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:29,200 That is my absolute biggest and stupidest fight, because I know when I do get my roof rack. 461 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:42,560 I'm probably not going to be able to have a tube DIY water system around my my roof rack area, because my roof rack and my tent is going to take most of the land that I have now. 462 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,560 That's just stock. 463 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,880 Obviously, this is this is stock prunzoo stock tent. 464 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,080 I might not have that land available stock. 465 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,280 Can I get brackets? 466 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,880 Can I make it work somehow? 467 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,520 Probably. 468 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,640 But then we have to think about the weight of the water. 469 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,880 It's sticking out for branches, stuff like that. 470 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080 So I've considered it moving into the truck. 471 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,360 But then I have something that holds. 472 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:24,160 I would for me, I think four gallons is perfect between washing dishes, drinking water, etc. 473 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,480 I think the three to four gallons is perfect. 474 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,240 We drink water right now. 475 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,120 The kids, he's drinking milk out of a bottle, which we need water for. 476 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,360 And then I wash my dishes and clean them off with water, etc. 477 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,000 So like four gallons is perfect for like a four day trip. 478 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,000 Anything else, obviously, I can stop at a camp and feel like a state campground and fill up. 479 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,520 So I'm looking at like Dometics, just the water containers. 480 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Dometic has a four gallon rigid water container that's about a foot by foot or 10 inch by 10 inch. 481 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,520 How much is that? 482 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,800 That is I want to say that that container is probably seventy dollars 483 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,080 for the rigid container with the handles and spout. 484 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:25,920 But it's made to hold on their they have like a like a water fountain system or like a faucet system. 485 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,600 But I don't want before I know you're going to say that there's a way that you could build this or do it cheaper. 486 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:40,000 So I'm stopping you before you say this, because I want to preface this and say that I don't want to do that in particular. 487 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Because the faucet itself is one hundred dollars and I could buy off of Amazon as much cheaper system for fifteen. 488 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:57,920 And they make non name brand Dometic like containers for forty, fifty bucks. 489 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120 And so that's a consideration. 490 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,560 But I have to think about how much space that's pulling. 491 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:13,680 And that's like and until I figure out what my end game setup is for my truck, it has been like my most difficult thing. 492 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:25,840 I've thought about doing a auxiliary water tank underneath the truck strapped in like a gas tank because I have spot for it. 493 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:35,040 I was going to say aluminum plate for like if I hit bombs or anything like that to help guard it. 494 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:42,800 And then the only thing the only issue with putting it on the outside of your truck is you got to remember we live in Michigan. 495 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Oh, yeah, that thing would probably if I didn't drain it properly, it'd probably be cracked. 496 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560 And you'd have to winterize the lines, too. 497 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Yeah. So what I really recommend is, you know, think about where you live and stuff like water. 498 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,080 You have to take that out of the truck in the winter. 499 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:16,320 So your best route is to have something that is either something that obviously you have a tent in the way, but something that can go on your roof rack or something that can go on your tire carrier or something that you can put in the truck that is easy to remove when the time comes. 500 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:24,000 So that's where yeah. And that's where I thought about the auxiliary tank and then just draining it because, of course, you could drain it. 501 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,160 And if you pull your lines off, that's not a big deal. Right. Right. 502 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,640 So I thought about doing that. I thought about doing something inside of the truck, but my interior space is gold. 503 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,680 So I have to think hard and long about if I want to do something like that. 504 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:53,520 And I think what I'm going to do first is build the entirety of my back system up and then see where that puts me and then build from there. 505 00:30:53,520 --> 00:31:00,240 See what I need, because another possibility is I have my behind my driver's seat. 506 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:08,480 I should in the future here have a delete in that area and I might be able to hold it there. 507 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:16,960 So, you know, how sick it would be if we could find a tank that fills your entire cargo area, but is only like two inches tall. 508 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Right. So it's really skinny and flat. 509 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:32,240 So there's an actual tank that would you know how my seats angle back like a lot of work to see to angle back on like a what would you say that is like a 20 degree angle? 510 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,080 Something like that. Yeah, I'm bad at math. Yeah, I have no idea. 511 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,000 Crooked your hand just a little bit and that's about it. 512 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:47,680 And so you can't put something flush. Yeah, you can't put something flush against the seat without having a gap. 513 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:58,720 And there are certain tanks that lay up against the seat that are kind of a triangle shape that will make that a flat edge, which I've looked at. 514 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:09,280 But that extra two to three inches that those tanks take, I don't have length for most fridges unless I do a delete. 515 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,880 But if I do a delete, then I don't need that fucking tank. 516 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:26,160 Well, that's why I'm saying if you had a tank that was flat, you know, I'm talking maybe it's four foot wide or four foot long by like two foot wide by two inches tall. 517 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Yeah, then you can put it underneath your drawer system without it taking up that very valid space. 518 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:38,080 There's there's a couple of options. They have some like. 519 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:46,240 That move like just hang on to one side of the wall and maybe I'll look for seeing if someone's got one that forms into. 520 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,600 Where I have like my window area at. 521 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,840 But at that point, I will be paying a shit ton of money for it and. 522 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:04,280 I don't know, I would see about doing some L brackets to an extend some PVC out to just use that for a water container. 523 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,320 But I'll see, because I would like to put an awning up with the tent. 524 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:16,120 My end game is a tent with an awning with an XL one hundred or 270 degree XL awning. 525 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160 That's like the end game, because I need it for sun. 526 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,200 I need a forward rain and I want it for comfort. 527 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:34,480 And I would like to have it over the and I like the 270 XL awnings because they wrap around where I cook in the back of the truck. 528 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,360 Which, as you guys knew from our botches yearly trip. 529 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:44,160 It would have been really nice to have one that wrapped all the way around so that we weren't all crumped up in the one spot. 530 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,760 All right, so this is getting into money, but I'm about to send you one. 531 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760 It's from Iron Man. 532 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:59,960 And it's supposed to be vertical, but we could definitely make it work flat and you could just put it under your drawer system without losing any space. 533 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:08,440 Oh, yeah, this is the one that they were that I've been looking at, actually, to actually put in. 534 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:19,160 I don't know if you remember seeing the back tailgate area of my truck, but I have a spot where I had my stove. 535 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:27,240 I had my cutting board vertically in my pants vertically, and that would have fit right in with those and I would have to do very little. 536 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:29,560 But here is another option. 537 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,920 I could put that same tank. 538 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,040 You know that my fridge slide is about four inches wide. 539 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,640 Oh, yeah, yeah. 540 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,120 So I could put that tank right there in with my fridge. 541 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:49,040 That combined weight should be still within the weight range of that all top slide. 542 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,600 Mount that tank there. 543 00:34:50,600 --> 00:35:00,800 And then when I pull my fridge out or I need to fill that tank, it pulls straight out and I don't have to put like a hose inside of the vehicle when I fill it. 544 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,880 You know what I'm saying? 545 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,040 Yeah, that'd be pretty sick, dude. 546 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,280 It would be part of the slide at that point. 547 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,920 Right. 548 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:18,880 But then I've also looked at like roto packs with because I do have in my car a roto packs mount that you could fit four cans on. 549 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,800 And because I will be getting a diesel heater, I'm going to do one gas, one diesel, maybe two water. 550 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:35,160 And it's an investment, but but you can connect the the the cans top to bottom or whatever it is. 551 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,560 Like, so something I've thought about, too. 552 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,560 So we'll see. Like I said, packs are fricking expensive. 553 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,120 They are really expensive, but they they work so good. 554 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,400 Yeah, they're nice. I was just saying they're hard to look so good. 555 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,240 They look very good. 556 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:59,720 The the thing is, too, is that they have like no name, you know, like aftermarket versions of them. 557 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,720 But if you look at the reviews of them, they get such bad reviews. 558 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,760 I've even seen roto packs that get bad reviews, though. 559 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,840 So, well, so, you know, facts do. 560 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,120 But I think some of that is user error. 561 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,480 But like I had one guy that was like mine exploded and then but he did. 562 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,280 It just sounds like someone did check the pressure vents. 563 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Yeah. So I think then he gets I think half of the bad reviews on Amazon or on any of our 564 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,160 any of these off websites are fucking user error because people don't want to read the directions, 565 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,520 me including. I don't know that I ever read the directions. 566 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,680 OK, I don't ever read the directions until something goes wrong. 567 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,440 Right. Right. 568 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:48,120 And then I have them and I read through them and then I'm like, oh, yeah. 569 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,600 I don't know. Yeah. When I say overlanding is a scam again, I don't mean that it's a complete scam, 570 00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,600 because obviously it's fun and it's just there is so much money that you can spend on stuff 571 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,360 where you could get the exact same thing, but maybe not overlanding looking for a quarter of the price. 572 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,040 It's the same thing. 573 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,160 No, no, no. Let me let me let me put this into perspective for you. 574 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,400 You want to go to the gym? You could spend four thousand dollars on a fucking Bowflex 575 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,520 to do the same thing that you're getting with rubber band or not rubber bands, 576 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,480 but you know what I mean? 577 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Yeah. Bands, weights and body weight workouts. 578 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,560 You could do the same thing that you're doing with all this expensive equipment. 579 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,720 But Bowflex looks cool. 580 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:40,480 Yeah. So, I mean, at that point, it goes back to that. 581 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,080 I have more money than I have time or I have more money than I have 582 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,800 than I give a shit and I want the efficiency and I want the because the Bowflex does 583 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,880 fucking do. We're still off. 584 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,240 But the Bowflex does like pack down a bunch of different workouts into one area, whereas 585 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,720 and a lot of it can be said for all of this other equipment, too. 586 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,000 This is where I'm getting at here. 587 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,400 But I mean, it makes things more efficient. 588 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,040 So is overlanding a scam sometimes? 589 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,400 No, I think sometimes it makes it more efficient. 590 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,320 No, I would say overlanding products typically. 591 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,440 Have a alternative that might be better. 592 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,440 Oh, yeah. As a sport is not a scam. 593 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,680 No, not at all. Overlanding is not a scam. 594 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,520 Yeah, that's all we're saying. 595 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,280 No, as a sport, it's not. But overlanding products. 596 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,760 So I would say that I'm not as far on the scammy side as Xox is, 597 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,880 but that's just because he's got more working build knowledge. 598 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,440 I would say that. 599 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,760 If you really don't want to get 600 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,320 taken advantage of, then do your research and check other sites. 601 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,400 Etsy has a lot of custom overlanding equipment. 602 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,400 Etsy is sick. 603 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Yup. Etsy is great. 604 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,120 Amazon's got cheap overlanding. 605 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,360 Use Temu, but you like use it without your account information. 606 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,120 Like get a separate prepaid debit card and don't put, you know. 607 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,360 Obviously, don't put it on your phone. 608 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,080 Make sure you have a burner phone to use it. 609 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,000 Don't use your Google account. 610 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,440 Have it sent to a PO box in another city. 611 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Just be there at the right time and right place when it gets dropped. 612 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,360 But no, I've got a couple of people order from Temu and other places 613 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,960 and get products much cheaper. 614 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,200 Oh, yeah. 615 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,960 So I can't say that Temu is a bad option, 616 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,040 but what are you really trading off for? 617 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960 The world may never actually know. 618 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,800 All of your personal data, all of it. 619 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,840 Which honestly, if you're talking about me, I fuck it's already out. 620 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,840 It's been out. 621 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,880 So at that point, I'm not using it. 622 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,960 So at that point, I'm not using anything. 623 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,680 We shouldn't have to be giving it up for cheap products. 624 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560 I mean, I'm not. I mean, it's not cheap to me. 625 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,960 I don't know. 626 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,520 What do I have to hide? 627 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,800 I'm not some like government conspiracy theorist. 628 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,280 Doesn't matter. 629 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:20,000 What if they decide tomorrow that owning a Hot Wheels car is illegal? 630 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,640 Well, they can come and take it. 631 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,400 No, most like most of our redneck ass community would say. 632 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:29,920 And then they would. 633 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480 And then we'd start right out of my hands. 634 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Yeah. 635 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,240 But you pry this bitch out of my cold dead hands. 636 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920 If you want to waste your fucking time and your life on my fucking Hot Wheels, 637 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,800 a.k.a. whatever shit that you want to try to take away from me, go ahead. 638 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,320 But there's reasons. 639 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,880 There's reasons why riots and shit happen. 640 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,120 Like the people, the people won't stand for that shit. 641 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,160 You heard it here first. 642 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,800 Gavin's inciting a riot. 643 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,360 I will take away my Hot Wheels. 644 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,440 See what happens. 645 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,120 These were given to me. These are gifts. 646 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,040 Yeah, no. 647 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,240 I mean, building's fun. 648 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:16,360 And if you if you have the kind of mind 649 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,880 and not everyone does, but you have kind of that engineering type mind 650 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040 where that's what you like to do. 651 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,760 Overlanding can be an extremely cheap option for you to get into. 652 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080 And if you're willing to rough it a little bit, you know, 653 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,360 like we did back in the day, overlanding. 654 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,000 I mean, I think my TJ build total 655 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,080 that was, you know, lift, wheels, tires, truck, all my camping gear. 656 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,000 I think I had like fourteen thousand dollars in the whole thing. 657 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,040 And that's more than you need, really, for most for Michigan. 658 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,840 Yeah, not when you need a stock vehicle, 659 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,480 some all terrains and some coal in here that you bought at a yard sale. 660 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,600 So I built that one for Arizona. 661 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,800 So that one was a little more than what we need here. 662 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,480 Yeah. I mean, if you if you're looking for like basics for overlanding, 663 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,960 then look no further than your garage sale. 664 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,120 Yeah. 665 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,000 Not for real. Like you. 666 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,640 Yeah, I agree. 667 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,520 You get an old Coleman roll up sleeping bag. 668 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,520 You get an old Coleman twenty dollar tent. 669 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,200 And if you look at it again, don't don't wait and spend shit 670 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,600 ton of money on something else, because I could guarantee you that you spend 671 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,360 eight hundred dollars on your gazelle tent. 672 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,280 And then you go out and take your gazelle tent out and you're like. 673 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Oh, I don't like how tall this thing is, or 674 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,720 I don't like how much space this eight hundred dollar tent puts up 675 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,160 in my in the back of my Subaru Crosstrek. 676 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:47,120 Like then you're like, fuck, I have an eight hundred dollar tent. 677 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,280 What do I do with it? Oh, I'll sell it for five hundred dollars. 678 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,720 Nobody wants a sale for three hundred dollars. 679 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,160 So start small, start cheap. 680 00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:01,280 And while it sounds stupid to to spend that little bit of money at first 681 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,920 and then work your way up, because at the end of the day, 682 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,400 you're spending more money that way. 683 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,400 It's better because then you can actually personalize. 684 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,240 Yep. And learn how you like to overland and wheel and build up from there. 685 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:19,160 So and that whole that whole statement of buy once, cry once. 686 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,280 That's fucking crap, dude. Yeah. No, you don't. 687 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,920 I would say buy once, cry once only applies if you know what the fuck you 688 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,120 what you're buying. Yeah. 689 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,360 If if you're just starting out and you go and you go for 690 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,640 not to pick on Zach here, but if you go for like the the most expensive 691 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,200 luxury rooftop tent that you got a good deal on. 692 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,880 Our buddy Zach, he he got one of those off of Facebook marketplace, 693 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,480 thinking it was going to be the fucking bees knees. 694 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,000 And it ended up really not being what he wanted or needed. 695 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,120 And he actually went down to something else that was 696 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,400 about two grand cheaper and more space. 697 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,920 And he likes that much better. 698 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,640 So, I mean, it's it's not a good suit. 699 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,760 So he's totally going to hear us talk. 700 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,880 Well, it's not crap. It's it's facts. 701 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,120 Like, you know what I mean? But like so it's. 702 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,040 Let it be known first. 703 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,880 The GMC terrain is not the best overland rig. 704 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,120 Yeah. Well, neither is a super cross track, but that's not. 705 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,120 Oh, dude. Cross tracks are great. 706 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,160 You blow them up on the first trip, spend a bunch of money getting them rebuilt. 707 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,320 Transmission goes out two weeks later. 708 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,200 It's a great option. 709 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,160 I think the newer transmissions are all like snowmobile transmissions anyway. 710 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,720 Aren't they? Yeah, they're pretty sure they're. 711 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,640 See, yeah, yeah. 712 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,240 Yeah, I think I got mine wasn't a CVT, so I got lucky. 713 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:49,800 I think nine or six wasn't not positive, but pretty sure it wasn't. 714 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,920 But anywho, it's like, I mean, you start early 715 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,280 for me in particular. 716 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,120 I started out with my wife and son. 717 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,160 We started out in a cheaper tent. 718 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,640 And after about three trips, 719 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,320 I started to realize what I did need and what I didn't need. 720 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,080 And I'm a big overprepper, big overprepare. 721 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,480 That I have. 722 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,760 I have a case of mosquito repellent. 723 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640 I have a case of M.R.E. 724 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,960 I have a case. 725 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960 I have a fucking big bag of rope. 726 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,320 I have 15 headlamps. 727 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,280 And through the course of the summer, not only inexperienced, 728 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,280 but through the experiences of camping and overlanding 729 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,840 and trying to optimize it for the for my family, I've realized that. 730 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,080 60% of the stuff that I had in my truck, I didn't need. 731 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,440 And if you go by that rule, I mean, I again, I overprepped. 732 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,680 I had I had fire starter and match matches 733 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,360 like those stupid kits that you get out of the back of like 734 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,840 the GI Joe fucking Kbar knives. 735 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,640 I'd like to just hanging around the truck because I'm like, you never know. 736 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,440 Well, dude, I have also five lighters. 737 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,120 I have two fucking propane lighters. 738 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,240 I was that that fire started. 739 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,360 You turned me on to that super cheap stuff. 740 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,560 That stuff worked. Oh, yeah. 741 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,440 Yeah. So and that's one of the things too, is that you learn while you go. 742 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,360 It's actually just wood stove fire starters 743 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,640 that you can get for just starting a wood stove or starting a fireplace. 744 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,080 And I bought mine at Tractor Supply and I don't want. 745 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,040 What was it like 240 squares for like 20 bucks? 746 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,240 Yeah, it was so 240 fires for 20 bucks. 747 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,040 Well, and that's you can't we didn't even use the whole square. 748 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,600 We were ripping it into sections. 749 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,160 Yeah. So I mean, it's it was a much cheaper option. 750 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,840 Those cheap are those expensive even. 751 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,920 And this is where like backpack tax and overland tax 752 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,720 get you to is like they try to get you to buy these crazy like 753 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,920 fire starters that are like fucking expensive. 754 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,520 And you don't need them half the time. 755 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,360 My brother. You need. Yeah. 756 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640 Well, you have you have most of what you need out in the woods. 757 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,200 And if you don't, if it's rainy or you just don't feel like it, those 758 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:17,280 those squares work just fine. 759 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,360 So when I was growing up, we never took fire starters with us. 760 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,120 Dad would bring some newspaper out in a match and he'd get a fire going. 761 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,640 Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, there there is a limit. 762 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,440 I'm still over preppy. 763 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,080 Like I still I buy five big lighters and I put one in each glove box 764 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,080 and one throughout the truck. 765 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,480 So I always have an extra. 766 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,600 But that's mostly because I'm trying to make sure that I have fail 767 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,320 saves for my own memory. 768 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,960 But no, I mean, I've gotten rid of I think I would say. 769 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,960 A good 60 percent of the inventory that I had in my truck, 770 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,960 I've gotten rid of, and that is hiking and backpacking pots and pansets. 771 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,280 I got rid of two of those. 772 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,480 I got rid of four hot dog pokers, two hobo pie makers. 773 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,800 And I'm not throwing away, obviously, I have them for when I need them. 774 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,920 But if you know what you're doing, if you know where you're going 775 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,560 and you have a meal plan set out, there's no frickin reason 776 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,040 why you should have all this equipment already in your truck 777 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,480 and why you shouldn't have it ready to go. 778 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,160 I mean, I had the the mindset that I would just have absolutely 779 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,720 everything that I owned in my truck that I could go. 780 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,520 But as I was driving more. 781 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:39,920 And I don't know, utilizing my space, actually, and utilizing the equipment, 782 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,000 I realized I didn't need a good percentage of it. 783 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,040 So I don't know, it's when you're first starting out overlanding, 784 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,440 that's kind of the best way to dismiss all that out, is to figure out 785 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,040 what you need and don't need, obviously, a reliable caveat 786 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,920 to bringing stuff you don't need is you can never bring the wrong tools. 787 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:09,600 No, no, I brought I logged a ball joint press for three trips. 788 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,000 And we always said, we'll probably never need this. 789 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,440 We'll probably never need this. 790 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,240 But then I did need it on the side of the road one day. 791 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:18,440 And I was so glad that I had it in the truck. 792 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,280 Mm hmm. 793 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:29,080 I I would say that tools and spare parts are a massive part. 794 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,480 And I don't think enough people carry spares and spare tools and parts. 795 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,360 I'm one of them. 796 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,360 I just started carrying it. 797 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,560 And the only reason I started carrying it is because it's the my old shit 798 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,640 that I just repaired. 799 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,040 So I have a couple of idler pulleys that are on their way out 800 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,840 as a backup and a belt that wasn't bad, but was on its way out. 801 00:49:53,840 --> 00:50:00,200 So I have spare parts, but making that investment to buy things like CV, 802 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:08,200 CV axles or knuckles, you know, tie rods, steering components, 803 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,200 the typical things that fail on IFS is probably pretty important. 804 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,800 And I only did it because I had some, you know, I had a knuckle break 805 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,800 and now I'm like, well, fuck. 806 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,800 Yeah. 807 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,640 And group rides are one thing we learned pretty, pretty well 808 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,280 that during the botches yearly trip that, you know, it's nice to have 809 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,960 a couple of vehicles because we have one that can work, you know, work with you. 810 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,480 The other one can run out to town and grab the parts solo. 811 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,320 You don't have that. 812 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,680 So if you're doing it solo, man, you need to be prepared. 813 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,680 Parts wise, use a VIA strand out of the middle of nowhere. 814 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,080 And yeah, if you have self-service get a lot of places, I don't know, 815 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,480 if you're over landing, like we overland tow trucks, aren't going in there. 816 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,600 And you don't want to pay for the tow truck if it can get in there. 817 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,600 That's the deal. 818 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,600 Right. 819 00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:01,520 I mean, I mean, I guess for the listeners, something we should put out there is, 820 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,080 you know, what are spares that we consider, you know, important? 821 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:12,160 Important. Like for me, CV axles, alternator, knuckles. 822 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,920 That is in preface to this with that. 823 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,520 We're talking Toyota's currently. 824 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,240 And I'm talking specifically the third gen. 825 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:26,560 Yeah. The three things that fail the most are CV axles, alternator and knuckles. 826 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:28,800 Yeah. 827 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,280 On my experience, what would it be? 828 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,600 Tie rods? 829 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,640 Is it what the bent tie rod? 830 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,640 Mm hmm. 831 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,200 That's I'd add that to. 832 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,720 I would say either police, if you get in any kind of water or mud, 833 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:46,280 they can get bad pretty quick, but usually you can get out with those. 834 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,000 Alternators definitely one because on Toyota's 835 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,960 usually the alternators are mounted pretty low. 836 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,160 So if you get in kind of water or mud situations, they tend to 837 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,640 they tend to get gunked up and fucked up pretty quick. 838 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,160 So I would say, where's your guys's alternator? 839 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,040 Where's the motor? 840 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,240 It's modern low. 841 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:07,600 Yeah. I think mine's higher. 842 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,360 OK, because mine's like midway. 843 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,640 I think mine's more midway. 844 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,440 Well, yeah, typically, I mean, I would say it's not on the bottom of the engine, 845 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,640 but it's mid. 846 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,360 That's where it's at on Sequoias. 847 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,760 But it's. 848 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,840 It's it's far enough down there that if you do any. 849 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,520 Any water at a pretty decent speed, it's getting wet. 850 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:37,120 Any any kind of deeper mud, it's getting wet and mud, dirt and water 851 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,120 on electrical or anything running off your pulleys is not good. 852 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,320 So it's 853 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,280 I don't know if you if you like to be prepared and you want to make sure 854 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,120 that you get your get your shit ready, then I would. 855 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,840 So other than that, what do we think? 856 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,440 Because we kind of went from talking about elections 857 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,320 to talking about elections to this over here. 858 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,240 Getting to spare tires. 859 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:07,400 Oh, absolutely. If you don't have a spare tire or at least 860 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,080 I would say if you don't have a spare tire, you're a dummy. 861 00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,000 I love you. Ouch. 862 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,080 I love you. 863 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,880 I love you. 864 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,880 But everybody should have a spare tire. 865 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,720 That's that's like number number one. 866 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,600 I just got to figure out a way to put it and then I got to buy one. 867 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,560 Yeah. 868 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,880 I don't know, man, just throw it on your thought on your hood. 869 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,920 I'd never see out of that car. 870 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,920 I say mount it to your front bumper so that you hit the tire 871 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,440 before you hit anything else. 872 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,720 It's like like one of those tugboats. 873 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,360 You get a hitch mounted receiver because I got that front. 874 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,000 Yeah, yeah. 875 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,040 I'll make your approaching nice. 876 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,800 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 877 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,360 Oh, yeah. Well, I think it's very tired for sure. 878 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,880 But if you don't have any kind of patch tire kits. 879 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,360 Oh, then you're an idiot. 880 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,560 They're so small that they're so cheap that if you don't have anything. 881 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,600 I mean, you're kind of asking for trouble. 882 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,160 Even like a glue tread, you can, you know, with a glue tread, 883 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,400 you can do the sidewall. 884 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,280 Yeah, I have. 885 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,960 I think I have a slime tire patch kit 886 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,160 and then I have some spare like rubber cores or whatever. 887 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,680 Yeah, I'd pull. 888 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,440 That's what I keep in mind. 889 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,520 And if you don't have something, they're so cheap. Why not? 890 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,600 I mean, you have no excuse for it at that point. 891 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,840 Yeah. But other than that, I would say if you don't have a fire extinguisher 892 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,120 or a first aid kit. 893 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,520 You're dummy. 894 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,840 Maybe that should be maybe that should be our next episode. 895 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,760 We do we do a 30 minute. 896 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,880 Are you are you a dummy if you don't have these and then we 897 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,080 you don't have a spare tire, you're dummy. 898 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,240 You don't have a first aid kit, you're a dummy. 899 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,040 If you don't have a fire extinguisher 900 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,120 or any kind of comms to navigate out, you're a dummy. 901 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,760 So on that note, I mean, 902 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,440 not to not to bring it into a whole different section. 903 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600 That I think that pretty much sums up our 904 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,200 our little Thursday chat. 905 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,560 Yeah, I mean, it was great. 906 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,440 It was on topic 100 percent. 907 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,000 There was no something. 908 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,800 Yeah, there was. 909 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,240 This is one of the one of those episodes where we just kind of get together 910 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:33,480 and just chill and bullshit because I don't know about these guys. 911 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,800 These guys probably seen each other a couple of times this week, but 912 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,520 I'm busy with the kid. I'm doing my own shit. 913 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,440 Oh, I'm out of town. 914 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,760 Oh, see, there you go. So yeah, he works like three hours from me. 915 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,880 Yeah. So I don't we don't really see each other all that much during the week. 916 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,720 So, you know, it's a good chance to to bullshit. 917 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:53,960 Talk about what's going on at the same time. 918 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,640 So we appreciate you guys for joining us. 919 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,200 Alex Mark will we'll see you next time. 920 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:21,560 Later. Later.