1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,520 Welcome to Botches Off-Road. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews 3 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,360 to trail stories, tent camping to rock landing, 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,720 and all things to do with the outdoors. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,540 Today we got Alex and Mark again. 6 00:00:14,540 --> 00:00:17,320 We're gonna do another quick 30 minute episode 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,480 and the topic of today's episode is gonna be very loosely 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,000 based around the question of what is the one piece of gear 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,180 you didn't think about before you started overlanding, 10 00:00:29,180 --> 00:00:31,160 but now you can't live without. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,420 So I think we're gonna start off with Mark, 12 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:37,000 tell us about yours. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Mine will be an air compressor. 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Originally for a good portion of two years now 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,800 I've been running out of Alex's air compressor slash tank. 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,620 It was a single little single pump one 17 00:00:51,620 --> 00:00:56,540 that was a air horn slash air ride system. 18 00:00:56,540 --> 00:01:00,680 And for a while it was getting down to where it took 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,360 almost an hour to fill up all of our tires 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,520 and then another set of tires and it just took forever. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,540 So I ended up getting all top dual compressor, 22 00:01:10,540 --> 00:01:14,440 which is a standard almost any dual compressor now 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,340 it's just the same thing, just a different name. 24 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:20,940 And it has been a lifesaver since. 25 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:24,080 Alex is kind of angry about it because I have literally done 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,620 it where I filled up my tires, 27 00:01:25,620 --> 00:01:28,960 I filled up my brother's tires and I also filled up 28 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:31,580 like our buddy Duncan's vehicle while he was still 29 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:35,320 airing up his tires and he was still not done yet. 30 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:37,700 My little compressor is getting tired. 31 00:01:39,020 --> 00:01:42,480 Yeah, I mean, it's done good for what it is, but an hour. 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,500 I mean, God, I'd be lucky to get more than five minutes 33 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:49,800 off of my compressor before from Harbor Freight. 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,420 So that's pretty good though. 35 00:01:52,420 --> 00:01:56,580 To be fair, that's going from somewhere between 10 36 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:59,940 and 13 PSI to 40 on three trucks. 37 00:01:59,940 --> 00:02:01,220 I mean, that's great. 38 00:02:01,220 --> 00:02:03,240 And I know that tank really helps out a lot 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,780 because that compressor would be dead without it. 40 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:07,940 I honestly think that. 41 00:02:07,940 --> 00:02:11,720 I seriously think that that tank helps just cool things down 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,100 and keep things healthy. 43 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:13,940 Yeah. 44 00:02:14,860 --> 00:02:17,660 I mean, compressors are important for sure. 45 00:02:17,660 --> 00:02:22,460 I know that I have the Thor's Lightning version of yours, 46 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:23,300 Mark. 47 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:24,140 Yep. 48 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:26,980 And as you said, it is for a dual compressor, 49 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:27,820 what is it? 50 00:02:27,820 --> 00:02:28,940 Dual cylinder compressor. 51 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:29,780 Yep. 52 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:30,820 It's awesome. 53 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:31,660 Yeah. 54 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:33,140 I mean, it's very quick. 55 00:02:33,140 --> 00:02:37,620 The parts that I got with it, the hose seems pretty quality. 56 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:41,660 The air truck seems pretty quality and I can air mine up. 57 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:44,740 My buddy Matt's up pretty quick before most other people 58 00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:45,580 are even done. 59 00:02:45,580 --> 00:02:50,340 So interested to maybe in the future incorporate 60 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:53,980 like a more flight four way system to it, to try it. 61 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:57,220 Once you start that, once you start with a good compressor, 62 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:59,580 it's kind of hard to live without one. 63 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:00,420 Yeah. 64 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:02,340 Tyler, if you want to sponsor us. 65 00:03:02,340 --> 00:03:03,180 Oh yeah. 66 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:04,020 More flight. 67 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:05,020 Yeah. 68 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:05,860 Yeah. 69 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:08,260 I honestly, I just thought that it was a really cool. 70 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:10,240 I saw, what was it? 71 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,060 Some guys that were rock landing on YouTube, 72 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:15,060 forget what the name of it is, 73 00:03:15,060 --> 00:03:19,180 but those guys were running more flight and God, 74 00:03:19,180 --> 00:03:22,900 they had their lifted Jeeps and they're going, 75 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:23,740 I forget what is it? 76 00:03:23,740 --> 00:03:26,740 Was it 400 miles of hell or something? 77 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:27,940 Oh yeah. 78 00:03:27,940 --> 00:03:29,780 Yeah. Oh my gosh. 79 00:03:29,780 --> 00:03:31,420 Four days in hell or something like that. 80 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:32,260 Four days in hell. 81 00:03:32,260 --> 00:03:33,720 Yeah. Man. 82 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,420 Just so cool to watch that and then see them airing up 83 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:39,220 and airing down and their different tires 84 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:41,020 going over this crap. 85 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:42,580 Oh, that was so cool. 86 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:45,500 Now they came out with this hub thing that like, 87 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:46,940 I don't even know what all it is. 88 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:51,640 It uses some type of algorithm to determine exactly 89 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,380 how long it takes to air up each tire to the proper PSI. 90 00:03:55,380 --> 00:03:56,820 And you can like adjust it all. 91 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:59,300 And it's, it is wild. 92 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:01,300 The stuff that more flight is doing now. 93 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:03,460 Yeah. Set it and forget it pretty much, dude. 94 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:06,500 You can set it, go eat your sandwich, go take a poop, 95 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:08,440 come back and it's done. 96 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,700 That's perfect. 97 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:12,100 I mean, it doesn't get much better than that. 98 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:13,900 I always thought that the whole more flight thing 99 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:17,540 was really cool, but it wasn't necessarily necessary, 100 00:04:17,540 --> 00:04:18,460 which I mean it isn't, 101 00:04:18,460 --> 00:04:23,020 but then I realized that I like to air up at one tire 102 00:04:23,020 --> 00:04:25,900 and then go talk and then come back and air up another tire 103 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:27,340 and then go talk. 104 00:04:27,340 --> 00:04:29,860 So if I could just hook up all four 105 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:31,620 and just let them do their thing, 106 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:33,500 oh, that would save me so much time. 107 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:37,660 Yeah. I think the first time that I seen the four way 108 00:04:37,660 --> 00:04:41,140 was like ARB, something like that. 109 00:04:41,140 --> 00:04:43,980 Yeah. ARB has their own way too. 110 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:47,580 Yeah. I haven't seen that there any way near as, 111 00:04:47,580 --> 00:04:49,700 I don't know, as near as refined, I guess, 112 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:51,580 as like more flight started into it. 113 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:55,580 So yeah, I think more flight has a solid system out there. 114 00:04:55,580 --> 00:04:58,100 I think that's going to be my go-to. 115 00:04:58,100 --> 00:05:00,520 It won't be for the compressor for now, 116 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,940 just because I have that Thor's lightning 117 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:04,780 and I got it without, you know, 118 00:05:04,780 --> 00:05:06,700 at the time when I got the Thor's lightning compressor, 119 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:09,640 I bought the first dual cylinder compressor 120 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,580 that I could have one day delivered. 121 00:05:11,580 --> 00:05:12,420 Yeah. 122 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:14,140 And at that time it was just Thor's lightning. 123 00:05:14,140 --> 00:05:17,380 So eventually when that one goes out, 124 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:21,200 hopefully in a few years, 125 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,060 I will probably switch to the more flight 126 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:26,940 just because I'm trying to keep some US based company going. 127 00:05:26,940 --> 00:05:31,780 But yeah, dude, definitely an air compressor is a big one. 128 00:05:31,780 --> 00:05:32,940 What about you Alex? 129 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:36,300 So I, you know, I've done this before. 130 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:38,500 So when I really started getting into it, you know, 131 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:41,660 I expected a winch, I expected an air compressor, 132 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:45,020 but I was getting some tires mounted and balanced 133 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:49,940 and the shop had these little Apex RPV, 134 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:51,140 sorry, one second. 135 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:52,420 Don't get out of here. 136 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:54,220 Go, go. 137 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:55,060 Go on, get. 138 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:58,180 I had, I had these little, 139 00:05:58,180 --> 00:06:01,140 they had these little RPV valve stem things 140 00:06:01,140 --> 00:06:02,660 that just had a switch on them 141 00:06:02,660 --> 00:06:04,820 and you just pull up and the truck deflates. 142 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:07,580 And it, on a whim, 143 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:09,860 I just told them to put them in and oh my God, man, 144 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:11,660 it saves me so much time. 145 00:06:11,660 --> 00:06:15,900 I can have all four tires aired down in like 30 seconds. 146 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,180 That's super nice for me. 147 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:21,780 That's, that's probably bad. 148 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:25,120 Cause I go to talk to and then I come back 149 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,180 and I'm like, oh fuck, I'm at five TSI. 150 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:28,700 Yeah. 151 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:32,500 Well, I stand there with my, my gauge 152 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:33,540 and I can just watch it. 153 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:35,220 And because I'm watching something move, 154 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:37,140 it keeps me engaged enough. 155 00:06:37,140 --> 00:06:40,780 Yeah. I mean, and those deflators work so well 156 00:06:40,780 --> 00:06:43,300 that you can sit there and it only takes it, you know, 157 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:46,020 what a couple of seconds to get down to the PSI you need. 158 00:06:46,020 --> 00:06:48,940 Yeah. I think each one is like four seconds. 159 00:06:48,940 --> 00:06:52,060 Yeah. So, I mean, that's plenty of time to get down to that. 160 00:06:52,060 --> 00:06:54,100 I, I thought about that. 161 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:55,860 And I know you've talked to me about that a lot 162 00:06:55,860 --> 00:06:58,700 and that sure will be a future one. 163 00:06:58,700 --> 00:06:59,620 I think I'm just going to wait 164 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:01,860 till I get a new set of wheels or something first 165 00:07:01,860 --> 00:07:03,340 before I get the deflators. 166 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,220 I, I don't think I would put them on stock wheels. 167 00:07:06,220 --> 00:07:09,700 So I think that's a good idea because I feel like 168 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:11,420 if you're going to put them on a set of wheels, 169 00:07:11,420 --> 00:07:14,060 you're kind of committing to that set of wheels, you know, 170 00:07:14,060 --> 00:07:15,700 across vehicles a little bit. 171 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:17,540 Yeah. Yeah. 172 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:22,540 And I think the ones that I have now, I have some cheapo, 173 00:07:22,660 --> 00:07:25,220 I think they were like Boulder tools, 174 00:07:25,220 --> 00:07:27,820 screw deflators that you just screw on. 175 00:07:27,820 --> 00:07:31,260 And then it's supposed to, you're supposed to set your PSI. 176 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:32,740 Yeah. They don't really work very well. 177 00:07:32,740 --> 00:07:35,020 And when you set the PSI, 178 00:07:35,020 --> 00:07:37,220 it's you could set it to one thing 179 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:39,660 and then it doesn't necessarily set at that. 180 00:07:39,660 --> 00:07:42,500 Most likely user error. 181 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:45,260 Still pretty new with the whole deflating your tires 182 00:07:45,260 --> 00:07:46,540 to certain PSI things. 183 00:07:46,540 --> 00:07:49,900 So it could be me, but then I got speed chucks, 184 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:54,900 which is probably another 20, $23, $25, something like that. 185 00:07:55,700 --> 00:08:00,700 So all for my deflation system, probably $50 total into it. 186 00:08:02,180 --> 00:08:04,780 And then the speed chucks just speed clip onto it. 187 00:08:04,780 --> 00:08:07,820 So I don't have to keep screwing on the valve stem every time 188 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:09,580 because that was getting annoying. 189 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:12,740 And so, I mean, it works good enough for me for now. 190 00:08:12,740 --> 00:08:15,980 And it'll do until I get deflators, but definitely. 191 00:08:15,980 --> 00:08:20,740 I found that if you buy a good quality screw on chuck, 192 00:08:20,740 --> 00:08:23,180 it's a lot less annoying. 193 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:24,020 Yeah. 194 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:25,900 Because I've had screw on ones before that, you know, 195 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:29,060 came with whatever air system I had and they always sucked. 196 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:29,900 Yeah. 197 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:33,460 But I bought Apex's high flow chuck, 198 00:08:33,460 --> 00:08:37,140 which is supposed to magically work better with the RPV. 199 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:38,780 It's about the same amount of time, 200 00:08:38,780 --> 00:08:42,420 but it is a very high quality product. 201 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:45,180 It screws on very easily on any valve stem. 202 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:47,420 I mean, it just works really well. 203 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:48,260 Yeah. 204 00:08:48,260 --> 00:08:51,580 And that for me, it's just that extra couple of seconds 205 00:08:51,580 --> 00:08:53,860 with the clip on the little speed chucks 206 00:08:53,860 --> 00:08:55,660 that I really, really enjoy. 207 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:56,980 I don't have to screw anything on. 208 00:08:56,980 --> 00:08:59,660 I just pop them on there and walk away. 209 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,060 My wife has two in her side of her door, 210 00:09:03,060 --> 00:09:05,700 so she'll go in there and pop them on hers 211 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,900 and she'll monitor those until we get down to the PSI 212 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:10,060 cause she's got a... 213 00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:12,260 Do they leak? 214 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:14,420 What? 215 00:09:14,420 --> 00:09:18,220 Every clip on valve stem connection I've had 216 00:09:18,220 --> 00:09:20,620 ends up leaking really quick. 217 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:25,620 No, I've used them probably six or so times now. 218 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:27,340 Haven't had any issues, 219 00:09:27,340 --> 00:09:29,900 but when you're working with deflators, 220 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:32,300 leaking is not really an issue. 221 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,380 It is if you're trying to get to a certain PSI 222 00:09:34,380 --> 00:09:36,340 cause it won't read out properly. 223 00:09:36,340 --> 00:09:38,420 So I'll use those till I get close 224 00:09:38,420 --> 00:09:40,020 and then I hook up the clip. 225 00:09:40,940 --> 00:09:42,460 It's the same kind of system, 226 00:09:42,460 --> 00:09:45,380 the little clip for my air compressor, 227 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:48,140 the chuck for it. 228 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:50,780 And then that's got the PSI readout on there. 229 00:09:50,780 --> 00:09:53,380 And then I'll let out the PSI 230 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:56,460 till I get to what I want to get. 231 00:09:56,460 --> 00:09:58,060 And then I'll be done with it. 232 00:09:58,060 --> 00:09:59,940 But it's just nice having something that clips on 233 00:09:59,940 --> 00:10:01,700 and clips off like that. 234 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:04,060 Don't have to spend a shit ton of time screwing in them. 235 00:10:04,060 --> 00:10:06,900 And then thinking about winter too, 236 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:08,780 it'll be nice to just pop those in there. 237 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:12,980 Whatever time I have less of outside 238 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:14,740 is better for me for at that point. 239 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:18,260 God, I wonder how my Apex valve stems 240 00:10:18,260 --> 00:10:20,260 are gonna work in the snow. 241 00:10:20,260 --> 00:10:22,060 Cause there's gonna be snow. 242 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:23,300 Oh man. 243 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:25,900 There's gonna be snow caked all in my wheel, dude. 244 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:28,620 I'm gonna have to dig my valve stem out. 245 00:10:28,620 --> 00:10:31,020 Are those steel or are they plastic? 246 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:32,300 Steel. 247 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:34,300 Just gonna say you could use like a torch 248 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:36,100 and just kind of heat up that area. 249 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:38,060 Cause you know you're gonna get ice accumulation 250 00:10:38,060 --> 00:10:38,900 and all that. 251 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:40,980 It's gonna be, might be a little harder to pull them. 252 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:42,700 They've still got O-rings. 253 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:43,540 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 254 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:47,340 I don't mean like, I don't mean like set a map gas torch 255 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:48,780 on there and just let them melt. 256 00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:50,540 But I mean, just like heating up the area 257 00:10:50,540 --> 00:10:52,180 cause I don't know how that's gonna work. 258 00:10:52,180 --> 00:10:54,020 Maybe the heat gun. 259 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:56,420 I was gonna say, don't you have a Bauer heat gun? 260 00:10:56,420 --> 00:10:59,900 I do have a cheap Bauer heat gun that I use for, 261 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:03,380 in the winter the tractors, their gear levels are freeze. 262 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:06,780 So I bought this little cordless Harbor Freight heat gun 263 00:11:06,780 --> 00:11:08,820 to just kind of heat them up enough 264 00:11:08,820 --> 00:11:10,660 that I could shift the tractor again. 265 00:11:12,540 --> 00:11:13,700 Yeah. 266 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:17,980 Maybe we look into, is it alcohol de-icers too? 267 00:11:18,980 --> 00:11:19,820 That could work. 268 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:23,300 Cause then not plugging, not having to plug in a heater 269 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:25,460 and walk around with a cord. 270 00:11:25,460 --> 00:11:27,820 Oh no, the heat gun's wire works. 271 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:28,660 Oh, okay. 272 00:11:28,660 --> 00:11:29,660 I was gonna say, I'm thinking it's, 273 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:31,740 I'm thinking it's corded and I'm like, 274 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:33,260 that's gonna be annoying, but. 275 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:36,300 No, it runs off a Bauer 20 volt battery. 276 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:37,300 Oh, that's cool. 277 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:40,580 It's a heavy duty hair dryer. 278 00:11:40,580 --> 00:11:41,420 The basically. 279 00:11:41,420 --> 00:11:42,260 Yeah. 280 00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:43,100 Yeah. 281 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:45,060 Hardly a heavy duty hair dryer. 282 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:45,940 Yeah. 283 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:48,940 But yeah, no, if that like locked the ice 284 00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:51,020 or something like that with the heavy, 285 00:11:51,020 --> 00:11:53,060 heavy alcohol content might help too. 286 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:55,780 But yeah, that's deflators. 287 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:57,940 That sounds like a problem for future Alex. 288 00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:59,660 Future Alex, future winners. 289 00:11:59,660 --> 00:12:02,100 That's yeah, we'll cross that road when we get there. 290 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:04,660 Cause I'm interested to see how that works out too. 291 00:12:04,660 --> 00:12:08,660 My clip-ons I know are gonna be really nice 292 00:12:08,660 --> 00:12:10,300 for that kind of thing. 293 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:12,980 Because I could just unscrew the valve cap, clip them on. 294 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:13,820 Right. 295 00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:15,660 And I could do that with gloves on. 296 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:20,660 So I know screwing them on, I'm not very dexterous. 297 00:12:21,180 --> 00:12:22,540 I don't know how you say that. 298 00:12:22,540 --> 00:12:25,940 My dexterity isn't the best in the cold. 299 00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:26,780 I've. 300 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:27,620 We know. 301 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:28,460 Yeah. 302 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:32,860 My hands got frostbitten a few years ago. 303 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:36,060 And ever since my feeling has not been, 304 00:12:36,060 --> 00:12:39,500 like I used to be able to go outside all winter 305 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:41,300 without gloves and I'd be fine. 306 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:44,700 Now it's like any little bit of cold and oh my God, 307 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:46,900 I thought my hands are just dead. 308 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:47,740 So. 309 00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:49,660 I hate what, you know how your hands turn 310 00:12:49,660 --> 00:12:51,620 like that pale white color. 311 00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:52,500 Yeah. 312 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,020 And then they're like just useless. 313 00:12:54,020 --> 00:12:55,780 Oh, I hate when they get that cold, man. 314 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:58,100 It doesn't take much from me. 315 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:00,380 And I already have an issue. 316 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:05,380 Doctors hit me up in the chat with like poor circulation. 317 00:13:05,780 --> 00:13:10,340 Like my toes and my fingers are almost always cold. 318 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:11,780 My feet aren't, my hands aren't. 319 00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:16,580 It's just my phalanges as doctors might say it. 320 00:13:16,580 --> 00:13:21,140 But they're always cold and it has not gotten any better 321 00:13:21,140 --> 00:13:22,300 with the frostbite. 322 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:23,860 So. 323 00:13:23,860 --> 00:13:25,980 Iron supplements. 324 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:28,020 Motherfucker, I am not anemic. 325 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:28,860 I'm good. 326 00:13:30,780 --> 00:13:31,820 I pump iron, man. 327 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:35,580 I take iron by the gram. 328 00:13:35,580 --> 00:13:36,420 I'm good. 329 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:38,740 No, not lead. 330 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:41,140 Oh, I drink that. 331 00:13:41,140 --> 00:13:43,260 Remember for Michigan, we have that in here. 332 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:45,580 It's a supplement. 333 00:13:45,580 --> 00:13:46,500 Wrong side of the state, buddy. 334 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:48,100 Wrong side of the state. 335 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:50,500 They put that in our water towers. 336 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,740 It's Grant's 80 year old water tower. 337 00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:53,900 That's still wood. 338 00:13:54,940 --> 00:13:56,660 Hey, no, our water tower, 339 00:13:56,660 --> 00:13:59,140 we have a new water tower that was built in 2004. 340 00:13:59,140 --> 00:14:01,380 The wood one we don't use. 341 00:14:01,380 --> 00:14:02,860 Yeah, that's what they say. 342 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:06,620 It's not even hooked up. 343 00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:07,700 I'm about to say, I don't think the wood 344 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:09,180 will do anything for the new Grant. 345 00:14:09,180 --> 00:14:12,060 Not to be conspiracy theorists or anything, 346 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:16,500 but have you ever checked physically? 347 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:19,540 Yeah, for anyone that doesn't know, 348 00:14:19,540 --> 00:14:24,540 we live in a very small town of 800 people. 349 00:14:24,660 --> 00:14:29,660 And one of the quote unquote attempted tourist attractions 350 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:33,100 is our original water tower 351 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:35,500 that is the last standing wooden water tower. 352 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:38,860 And I think all of Michigan may be the Midwest. 353 00:14:38,860 --> 00:14:40,660 I can't remember now. 354 00:14:40,660 --> 00:14:44,940 Yeah, and just so you know how well that worked out, 355 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:47,540 I didn't even know about that until like a month ago. 356 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:50,500 And I've been in Grant for a few years. 357 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:52,940 Maybe not as much as Alex and Mark have, 358 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:55,460 but I'd say at least four or five years 359 00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:56,380 I've been in the Grant area 360 00:14:56,380 --> 00:14:58,020 and didn't know about a water tower. 361 00:14:58,020 --> 00:14:59,780 So I knew, you know what? 362 00:14:59,780 --> 00:15:02,100 I know more about never enough being there 363 00:15:03,020 --> 00:15:04,700 than I knew about the Grant water tower. 364 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:06,820 You're like, what's in Grant? 365 00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:09,420 There's a subway and never enough. 366 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:12,060 That's pretty much Grant for you. 367 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:15,500 Man, that is the saddest explanation of our town 368 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:17,780 that I have ever heard. 369 00:15:17,780 --> 00:15:22,780 Coming from like inner city to living in country. 370 00:15:23,780 --> 00:15:26,700 Like I will say this at my high school 371 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:28,980 in Fife Lake was smaller than Grant's. 372 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:30,580 So Grant's got that. 373 00:15:30,580 --> 00:15:33,540 But other than that, dude, going through Grant, 374 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:36,460 there's like, is there any place to eat? 375 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:39,780 Yeah, I guess you could go to the old train depot restaurant. 376 00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:42,180 Other than that, you have Family Dollar. 377 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:46,260 The only, one of the only good Mexican stores 378 00:15:46,260 --> 00:15:48,100 that were in there where you could get 379 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:51,220 some like really authentic foods gone. 380 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:52,060 So they just- 381 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:52,900 No, they moved. 382 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:55,100 Is it the same people? 383 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:57,340 Is it Tomasula's or is it something else? 384 00:15:57,340 --> 00:15:59,420 I'm pretty sure it's the same people. 385 00:15:59,420 --> 00:16:00,660 I hope so. 386 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:04,100 I absolutely love that place. 387 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:07,940 I was in there with one of my farm hands not too long ago 388 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:11,460 and it's the same kind of thing. 389 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:14,180 I mean, I can't say they have as good of an inventory 390 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:16,740 as they used to, but it's pretty close. 391 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:20,140 Dude, God, I'm such a slut for authentic tacos. 392 00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:26,180 I miss having that little Mexican restaurant 393 00:16:26,180 --> 00:16:27,940 that was next to Tomasula's 394 00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:30,980 that always had like banging Mexican tacos, dude. 395 00:16:30,980 --> 00:16:31,940 Yeah, man. 396 00:16:31,940 --> 00:16:34,980 There's just such a need for it around here. 397 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:38,740 I hit up every food truck that's in Grant and O'Hago area 398 00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:40,420 that's got tacos. 399 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:43,140 Hey, Friendly Neighborhood Editor here. 400 00:16:43,140 --> 00:16:45,900 This is the point in the episode where I realized 401 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:48,420 that I'm an extreme big bag. 402 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:49,260 But- 403 00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:50,660 They're always Tex-Mex. 404 00:16:50,660 --> 00:16:52,780 I know, it's the hole in the wall places 405 00:16:52,780 --> 00:16:53,620 that are the best. 406 00:16:55,020 --> 00:16:57,140 I'm gonna butcher this, but taquerias, 407 00:16:57,140 --> 00:17:02,140 or taquerias, they're like little restaurants with stores. 408 00:17:03,380 --> 00:17:05,660 Those places are always the best. 409 00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:06,660 All right, man. 410 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:08,340 Now that we're on Mexican food, 411 00:17:08,340 --> 00:17:11,860 what is one piece of gear that you never thought of, 412 00:17:11,860 --> 00:17:13,980 but you could not wear without? 413 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:16,380 Yeah, speaking of Mexican food 414 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:19,580 and what it does to you typically, 415 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:23,500 mine would honestly be a shitter, 416 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:28,260 not a pooper as they call it, a commode, 417 00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:30,180 a mobile outhouse. 418 00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:31,300 A latrine. 419 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:34,540 A latrine, a hole in the ground. 420 00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:39,540 But no, I got a Amazon special heavy duty 421 00:17:40,780 --> 00:17:45,660 for my fat ass latrine little sit down toilet. 422 00:17:45,660 --> 00:17:50,580 And I will say I've been camping my whole life. 423 00:17:50,580 --> 00:17:53,340 I have been sitting on logs, 424 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:55,940 arranging logs to a triangle 425 00:17:55,940 --> 00:17:58,020 so that I could maybe sit on those. 426 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:01,140 I have been digging holes and squatting. 427 00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:05,300 This most recently, I tried to do the whole strap thing 428 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,900 where you put a strap around the tree 429 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:11,180 and let that hold you up a little bit while you sit. 430 00:18:11,180 --> 00:18:13,180 Fuck that, didn't that work? 431 00:18:13,180 --> 00:18:14,020 The strap hurt like hell. 432 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:16,140 How heavy of a strap did you have? 433 00:18:16,140 --> 00:18:19,340 Oh yeah, dude, it was at least a 12,000 pound strap. 434 00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:23,540 Next time I'll get winch cable, I can hear it creak. 435 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:28,620 But no, I mean, the strap hurt, obviously. 436 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:30,580 I mean, things not meant to do that 437 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:33,260 and you're putting all your weight into it. 438 00:18:33,260 --> 00:18:36,500 Tree bark is fun until you have bugs crawling up your ass. 439 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,460 It's just- Nothing's better than ants in the butthole. 440 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:44,860 And nothing's worse than trying to cook an authentic, 441 00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:49,380 let's say Hispanic meal out at camp 442 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:52,500 and then having to shit five seconds later 443 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,340 and then having to run 40 feet into the woods 444 00:18:55,340 --> 00:19:00,220 and find your perfect log because we're getting old 445 00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:02,820 and we can't squat like that anymore. 446 00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:06,900 It's annoying and it's time consuming 447 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:10,780 and anybody who knows me, I don't like wasting time. 448 00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:15,780 So I have a, previously already bought 449 00:19:16,420 --> 00:19:18,340 changing room shower awning 450 00:19:19,260 --> 00:19:21,220 that folds out on the side of my truck. 451 00:19:21,220 --> 00:19:25,620 And then we bought the, just an Amazon special U-shaped. 452 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,580 And I looked for U-shaped in particular 453 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:30,940 because I don't like the full donut 454 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:33,500 that you could typically get with the seats. 455 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:36,100 I like to be able to reach and get everything. 456 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:38,380 It's cause he's got a massive dong. 457 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:41,900 Yeah, I have to be able to flip it somewhere. 458 00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:47,660 It's just, no, it's my massive ass and my rolls 459 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,740 and I can't, I wanna make sure that I get in there 460 00:19:50,740 --> 00:19:52,900 and clean it, especially when you're camping, dude. 461 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,980 A clean butthole makes you feel like 10 times better 462 00:19:55,980 --> 00:19:57,660 when you're camping. 463 00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:01,020 It's the truth, I'll stand by it till I die. 464 00:20:01,020 --> 00:20:02,660 You feel better. 465 00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:06,020 And the only thing that gets even close as good 466 00:20:06,020 --> 00:20:08,100 as a feeling is a river boo day. 467 00:20:09,540 --> 00:20:12,020 Taking a poop in the river and having it boo day. 468 00:20:13,220 --> 00:20:15,780 Spreading that right on down to the kids 469 00:20:15,780 --> 00:20:17,460 swimming around the bend. 470 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:19,100 Yeah, I mean, typically, 471 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,140 typically if you're gonna let logs float, 472 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:24,500 you yell timber first, but yeah, I mean, 473 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:26,740 if you wanna surprise them, yeah, I guess you didn't, 474 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:27,580 you don't have to. 475 00:20:27,580 --> 00:20:32,580 I think that might be the worst hot tip you've ever given. 476 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:36,500 Yeah, you want a hot tip, I'll give you a hot tip. 477 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:37,860 If you're pooping in the river, 478 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:39,800 make sure your face the right way. 479 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:42,820 Think about it, think about it. 480 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:46,660 Make sure your face the right way. 481 00:20:46,660 --> 00:20:50,700 You ever try to poop the wrong way up a river? 482 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:53,300 You don't want logs floating in your way. 483 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,060 You're wrong, yeah, you just get, 484 00:20:55,060 --> 00:20:56,940 it just drags across your nose. 485 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Was that a fish? 486 00:21:00,980 --> 00:21:03,980 Yeah, man, that's a feeling you don't wanna feel. 487 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:05,900 So let me tell you that, dude. 488 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:08,040 Five in the morning, I had to poop bad. 489 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,560 It was super, super rustic. 490 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,380 We were on a small island that was probably 20 feet 491 00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:16,820 in Fife Lake and I was in high school. 492 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:18,060 And I ran out there. 493 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:20,660 We were on a hot dog and butter diet 494 00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:23,700 and ran out to the river. 495 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:24,780 Didn't even think about it. 496 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:27,020 It was one of my first times pooping in the river 497 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:28,260 and pooped the wrong way. 498 00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:30,940 And I tell you what, I'll never forget it. 499 00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:32,700 I'll never forget it. 500 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:36,340 I feel like pooping in the river is the wrong thing to do. 501 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:37,180 Why? 502 00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:38,020 Fish do it. 503 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:41,940 They do, but like, I used to have a dog 504 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:43,500 where he always shit in the lake, dude. 505 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:46,720 And I always felt so bad for the people around us. 506 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Fuck, why? 507 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,060 Fish do it. 508 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,420 I understand. 509 00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:53,260 I understand. 510 00:21:53,260 --> 00:21:57,700 It's probably not the best way because of what humans eat. 511 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:02,700 And, but I could tell you that where we were at that time, 512 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,700 and I haven't done this since, 513 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:08,580 mostly because I'm traumatized, 514 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:11,820 but where I was at the time, 515 00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:13,940 it was through saplings and stuff. 516 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:15,620 There was, you couldn't even dig a hole. 517 00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:17,700 There was roots everywhere. 518 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:21,420 So I would have to have crossed the river, 519 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,700 which I was not doing in the middle of the night 520 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,140 or that early in the morning. 521 00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:28,960 And it was just kind of the best thing 522 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,040 that I could do at the time. 523 00:22:31,780 --> 00:22:34,080 And trust me, I paid for it. 524 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,260 You know, five in the morning, 525 00:22:37,260 --> 00:22:40,300 you're taking a poop in the Manistee River. 526 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:45,060 You ever taken a poop in a spring fed river before? 527 00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:46,900 No, but I'm sure it was cold. 528 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,060 It was fucking cold, dude. 529 00:22:49,060 --> 00:22:50,380 It was cold. 530 00:22:50,380 --> 00:22:52,060 I did it the wrong way. 531 00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:54,580 I stumbled and got deeper than I wanted to, 532 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:55,580 got my shirt wet. 533 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:59,700 Like, dude, I was almost butt naked in the middle of a river. 534 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:03,880 My friends are sitting over, 535 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,180 oh man, it was just embarrassing. 536 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,860 I was like, dude, it's not the best way. 537 00:23:08,860 --> 00:23:12,580 And this is all bringing back to the point to where 538 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:14,460 maybe at one point when you were younger, 539 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:18,620 you're like, hey, just squat, hey, blah, blah, blah, you know? 540 00:23:18,620 --> 00:23:21,180 But it's getting to the point now where 541 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:23,740 I just did this for the first time, 542 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:27,540 Labor Day weekend, I used this toilet. 543 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:32,360 I will never, never go back to anything before. 544 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:37,360 It was $40 and I would buy it every fricking week 545 00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:39,540 if that's what I needed to do when I was camping. 546 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:42,420 It's that much better than squatting 547 00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:44,100 in the middle of the woods. 548 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,700 Use a trash bag, use your little kitty litter, 549 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,780 and then you pack it out, obviously. 550 00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:52,740 You pack in, you pack out, don't leave a trace. 551 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:55,620 And it's so nice, dude. 552 00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:57,620 And in the middle of the night, 553 00:23:57,620 --> 00:24:02,500 you can sit there and poop in the cool, calm 2 a.m. night 554 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:04,620 and listen to the critters out in the woods. 555 00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:09,000 It's so much better than trying to struggle 556 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,140 not to poop on your shorts, right? 557 00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:14,500 Yep, I am excited for this weekend. 558 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:17,100 I can't wait to poop on your toilet. 559 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,660 Dude, you can, I will let you. 560 00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:21,060 I'll share the love, man. 561 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:22,660 You know, and the thing is, 562 00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:26,300 the bags fit right over the seat. 563 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:30,140 So I'm not saying that anything about camping 564 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:33,360 and overlanding is horrendously sanitary, 565 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:37,860 but when your own trash bag that you're using 566 00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:41,280 is over the seat, if you're worried about touching butts 567 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,840 or anything like that, then no worries, 568 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,540 because nothing touches. 569 00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:49,740 So it's about as sanitary as it gets. 570 00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:54,060 Do it up, I'll have that set up. 571 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,780 And yeah, dude, that's definitely something 572 00:24:56,780 --> 00:25:00,740 that I will never go camping again without. 573 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:09,740 It also kind of opens up different avenues for comfortably 574 00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:12,740 camping in areas that don't have easily accessible holes 575 00:25:12,740 --> 00:25:15,460 to be dug or a little bit more public areas, 576 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:19,580 state parks where you have your toilets. 577 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:24,140 Sometimes the toilets aren't someone to sit in. 578 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:27,700 And I have to think about my wife too and her comfort level. 579 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:32,700 When we decided to get this last year, 580 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:35,500 we just hadn't used it till this year. 581 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,140 She was pregnant and we were like, dude, 582 00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:41,020 getting up every 10 minutes or running to a potty 583 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:43,160 is just not gonna be good. 584 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,980 So yeah, I think it was a really good purchase. 585 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:50,420 I think that's definitely something I can't live without 586 00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:52,860 until the next thing pops up. 587 00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:56,060 I could argue the fridge, 588 00:25:56,060 --> 00:26:00,020 but we could live with the fridge. 589 00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:03,140 And that's something that I've thought about a little bit. 590 00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:04,820 So, yeah. 591 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:07,700 Well, thanks for your guys' insight. 592 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:11,020 This has been a pretty good episode. 593 00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:13,700 Yo, again, like I say, every episode, 594 00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,380 this would be a good place for us to read off some boosts 595 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:21,380 and just share the love that you guys shared back to us. 596 00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:24,180 So yeah, well, have a good one. 597 00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:26,180 And we'll see you.