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Welcome to Botches Off-Road.

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Join us today as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping

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to rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors.

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Today is going to be a little solo episode.

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You know, I wanted to get this out there while it was fresh for me, while I still have a

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young child, and the episode is going to be surrounded around taking your kid out camping,

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hiking, and over landing for the first couple of times.

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Some tips and tricks, some advice that I'm willing to give you.

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You can cherry pick what you want out of it.

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You can not do any of it.

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I don't care.

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This is just some info for you guys to maybe give you an idea on ways that you can do it.

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So without further ado, here we go.

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And the first and foremost and most important would probably be you and your partner's attitude

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on the whole situation, on the camping, on the over landing.

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So what do you be it?

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You know, it's super important to manage your attitude, your expectations, and understand

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that that has a big play in what's going on and what happens.

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So make sure your attitude is taken care of.

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Make sure that you have a positive attitude when you need to.

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And you know, the next, the next, which falls into my next thing, make sure you guys are

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working as a team.

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Very, very, very important to work as a team as a couple, especially when you have a young

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kid around, little backs ground on me.

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I have a 11 month old son named Jasper, and I have a beautiful wife named Sienna.

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And we have been doing this since Jasper was three months old.

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I realize that that is pretty early for some people.

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And I want to reassure some of you that I had waited to where I felt was a safe time

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to take him out for the first time.

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And I mean that multiple ways I waited until it was warm enough that he wouldn't freeze.

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And I waited until he was fully able to turn himself around, you know, with his own with

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his own weight.

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And until he was old enough to be able to hold his head mostly.

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So that's that's a big one.

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At that point Jasper was not, he was not sitting up on his own, but he was holding his own

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head up and he was able to roll.

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So for me, that was very important.

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And I honestly would recommend not doing anything earlier than three months or four months.

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And you know, obviously, everyone's child is different.

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If your kid is repetitively lifting its head, he is rolling, he is balancing himself and

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keeping himself out of certain situations.

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You know, make that call yourself.

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I am not your doctor.

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But what we did is we waited until I happened and that was around three months, three to

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four months.

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And you know, we took him out and this kind of pushes into my next piece of advice for

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you is that we took him out to a local campground, you know, camping, overlanding, backpacking

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with a kid.

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It's going to be different than what you're used to.

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And the best and safest place to do it is at a local place or even your backyard.

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And you want to make sure your kid is able to do it in the first place.

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I don't see why they wouldn't be, but it's better than going, you know, 500 miles and

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finding out that this is not going to work.

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So the other piece of advice is taking him out to a local campground or him or her, whatever,

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to a local campground and trying it out in a safe environment.

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And you don't know there's so many, I guess, unknowns of camping at that young age, you

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want it to be as safe as you possibly can starting out.

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So that first, the first two months we spent local campgrounds, something that was within

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the 30 minutes of a hospital or so.

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And that can be a part of your planning, honestly, there's plenty of campgrounds that

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are somewhat close to hospitals that you would be good with.

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So, you know, making those are my first couple, you know, working as a team, you know, keeping

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a positive attitude, keeping your first couple camps close to home.

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And then, you know, some more advice, I would say is gear wise, your gear is going to change

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and what you need is going to change.

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You're going to need something to warm milk, you're going to need a place for your kid

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to sit and eat, you're going to need, you know, multiple blankets, multiple towels,

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and I'll get into that in a little bit, but you're going to need a lot more than what

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you're used to packing.

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So maybe you pack minimally, you're going to realize that that's going to change and,

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you know, that's okay, you just need to plan for it.

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So let me help you.

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The first things that you want to pack when you're packing for your child, of course, diapers,

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but cream, wipes, formula, and then you get into other things like medicine, you want to

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have everything that your kid's going to need, children's Tylenol for fevers, you're going

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to want, um, gripe water, gas relief, you know, constipation relief, any of that kind

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of thing, which I think is gripe water.

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So you, you want to make sure that you're, you're well prepared medicine wise for that.

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So you have your diaper cream, you have your diapers, you have your medicine, you have your

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thermometer, you have everything you need to diagnose and take care of that child and

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anything else, you know, this is, you need to go somewhere else, right?

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So of course you should have a first aid kit.

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Of course you should, you know, have a little changing pad or something like that.

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So you're not changing them on the ground or on a picnic table that, you know, is,

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you know, that's more of a courteous thing.

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People eat off of it.

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I know what's outside.

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I know what's outdoors, but it's just, it's like a common courtesy and you know, maybe

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the baby booty gets a splinter.

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You don't want that.

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So you know, making sure you're packed right, making sure that you have packed enough clothing.

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If your baby, if your baby typically goes through one outfit a day, pack three.

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I am an overprepper.

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I will stand on this hill to the dad, I especially about having infants that if you're, if you,

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your kid normally goes through one or two changes of clothes and you're going to be out

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for let's say three days a weekend and two, four, six.

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If you need six, you need nine.

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Like that's, I mean, if you, if he only goes through one outfit a day, you have one, two,

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three outfits, uh, double that and then add three.

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That's what I do.

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And, and I have never ran out of outfits for my son.

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The worst thing is when you're out in the middle of a camp trip and you are on the middle

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of the woods and you run out of outfits, socks, undies, shirts, because your kid is throwing

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up spitting up, um, playing in the dirt, getting nasty, getting wet.

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You know, there's, there's a long list of reasons on why your kids clothes have to be

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changed blowouts.

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Number one.

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Um, so pack more than you need and more than you think that you need because you might

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go through it.

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Uh, so when you're packing this, I suggest all putting this in one bag, try not to pack

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it with your own stuff.

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It's a lot easier to take the baby's bag in with you in the tent.

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Um, you have a diaper bag that has all of the medicine, the diapers, the cream, the

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wipes, the extra clothing, uh, bottles, formula.

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Uh, and if you can't fit all the formula, whether you just throw a couple in some Ziploc

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baggies pre-measured, we use protein powder, uh, little protein powder storage cups for

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ours that worked really well.

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then how much you breastfed.

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And that was just to put in the diaper bag.

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We had formula in the truck, but if we didn't want to get out of the tent, we wanted to

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mix it up in there.

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We obviously had water, we had formula and we could do that.

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Uh, we got really lucky or baby doesn't care.

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Um, early on, he didn't care the temperature of our formula.

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Um, so we didn't have to warm it up all the time, which brings me into my next tip.

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Make sure you have a bottle, make sure you have bottle cleaners.

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I have a dedicated bottle brush just for my son.

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I don't use on any other camp where, and I do disinfect it once a weekend probably.

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Um, you know, if you were to ask someone else or maybe a little bit more of a, uh, how would

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I put it, a helicopter E mom or a little bit more careful mom, that doesn't mean you're

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wrong.

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It doesn't mean it's bad.

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It just means you're a little bit more careful.

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If you were to ask them, you should be, uh, you know, using a bottle brush and, and, and

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boiling your bottle to decontaminate and kill off all the germs.

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And I'll be quite honest, we didn't do that really.

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Um, not unless the bottle got really dirty or fell down.

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We did not boil the bottle to decontaminate or, um, sanitize it.

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Uh, we did clean it very well.

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The bottle brush and some dawn, um, and rinse it very well.

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And that was it when we camped.

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Um, you know, I can you, yes, we have a jet boil.

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We could boil the water.

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Did we know, uh, and, and you know what, Jasper came out fine.

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He's still okay.

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Everything went well.

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That's what you want to do, do it, we don't.

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So moving on.

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It, you know, the other thing is, uh, having toys, having things to play with.

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Um, when he was about four to six months, he was starting to tee a little bit.

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Um, and be prepared.

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Teething is a whole another game plan.

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You find it pretty easy to camp when you're young, uh, you know, when he's younger, uh,

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because he can breastfeed primarily, but when he's teething, he's starting to be a little

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bit of mixture of puree.

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Um, things change a little bit.

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So, you know, it's not easy when the baby's teething and that is probably one of the most

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stressful times for camping.

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Um, that, you know, that I can think of that for us anyway, he's, he's always sick.

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He's clingy.

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His nose is constantly running.

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He's slobbering everywhere.

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Hence the nine pairs of clothing, extra clothes.

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And then, you know, it's just, it's not easy.

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But, um, do I ever get doing it now at all?

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It's completely doable.

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Um, you know, I, again, every, everyone's baby is different.

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Everybody's patience threshold is different.

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Um, my wife and I are very good team.

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We handled it pretty well.

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Um, we dosed the kid with Tylenol as needed to help manage the fever and we kept teething

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toys in Ziploc bags in the cooler and then in the fridge after I upgraded to help with

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teething.

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So very important.

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Uh, you need something he needs to chew on something to help relieve some of that pressure.

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Um, another, another tip that we ended up doing was celery.

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Uh, celery and then, you know, asterisks, you know, big warning sign is an allergen.

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So don't try celery out the first time if you're out in the middle of a campground.

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Try it in the comfort of your home.

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Make sure that celery isn't going to make your child break out in hives or, or react

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in some way because it is an allergen.

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It might not be one of the well-known ones, but it is an allergen.

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Um, and then obviously keep an eye on your child on any kind of food that can break off

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into pieces and lodge in their throat.

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Common sense.

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I know.

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And so using, using celery was kind of our saving grace.

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It's there was a lot of pieces.

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We broke them off into five to six inch pieces, give or take, cut the ends off, the little

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dirty ends and we let them know on the celery, the cold celery.

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And another really good thing about celery is that it has numbing agents that are safe.

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Uh, you know, safe enough.

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It's just a, you know, I don't know exactly what it's called analgesic.

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I probably fucked all that up.

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I always say that up, but it's got a numbing agent that actually helps as a pain reliever

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for the child.

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So so it's a double duty, man.

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It's helping with teething.

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It's helping numb the gums up a little bit so that doesn't hurt as much.

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And it just worked, man.

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I went on a 1200 mile trip and he ate celery 30% you know, 30, 40% of this trip in his

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hand constantly.

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So keep that in mind.

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Um, again, watch your kid, uh, and to recap and to make sure that this is instilled.

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It's an allergen.

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Try the allergens and stuff that are allergens at home.

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If you're going to try peanut butter sandwiches, do the peanut butter sandwiches at home first.

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If you're going to give him a little lick of that peanut butter and you haven't tried

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to see if he's allergic to peanut butter, shame on you.

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Do not take them out of the middle of the woods and not try that first.

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So try your allergens or any planned allergens before you leave.

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Uh, and when he's teething, make sure you bring enough stuff for his teething, his fever.

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And then so now we get into cool.

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You've packed, you have enough clothes and you, you have everything to help him with

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his teething.

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You have formula.

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You have puree.

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Um, and then, you know, if you want my advice, take it or leave it.

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We started him out breast milk.

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And as he got older, you know, especially the teething area, once he starts showing

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those signs of wanting some other food, you'll start licking his lips.

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He'll show interest in the food we're eating.

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That's when we started him on, you know, breast milk and infant formula.

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to infant formula higher and higher as he got more comfortable and older to be able

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to deal with it.

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Obviously you want him to be able to swallow it.

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And by the time that we got to puree, it was pretty thick.

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infant cereal.

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So now that we're in puree, we're in first foods, uh, you know, and I'm using Gerber's

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first foods like they're, they're measuring system.

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We're in first foods and now we're in a really thin puree.

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We're going to start him on that puree for however long that you feel comfortable with

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and that they are comfortably eating at.

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Once they feel like they're really moving through that puree, um, start adding infant

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cereal to make it a little thicker and we're going to do the same thing with the infant

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cereal that we did with the milk and we're going to slowly move the mixture up as time

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goes and as they feel more comfortable, you'll see that they'll struggle less, they'll struggle

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less and they'll do better.

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of different foods.

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Um, do not keep them at Apple.

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Do not keep them at Pear.

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Make sure that every week you're trying a new food, you're doing apples, peas, pears,

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carrots, you know, broccoli, tomatoes, blend your own food, make sure it's very thin, make

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sure it's, you know, edible, um, and blend your own food at home too.

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Uh, as they get older, thicken it up as they get more comfortable, thicken it up, start

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adding puffs, start adding melts, start adding, uh, you know, softer foods that they can eat

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by themselves.

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I overcook, um, noodles, uh, small, small noodles, um, keep in mind the size of their airways

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and, and try to keep everything under that.

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The most dangerous foods that you can give a kid, hot dogs, grapes, uh, anything spongy

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that can conform to their airway and the throat.

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So make sure that you're sticking away from that or if you want to do a hot dog, fine,

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but you need to be doing very small, small pieces, very, very, very small.

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If you think it's not small enough, then cut it smaller and that's usually good gauge.

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So that's just a quick, uh, a food camping and food update or advice.

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Um, and that's how we weaned him and got him through the food and mostly out by the time

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that he's 11 months.

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So he, we did that throughout camping.

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So obviously if you're, if your child is within that age range that he's starting to transition

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into puree and then thicker puree, keep some infant cereal, just keep it in the truck,

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keep some puree on deck.

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Um, and, and there's your, you know, your transition, your advice as far as food goes.

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And that doesn't just have to play out.

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Um, obviously that doesn't just play out for camping.

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It's more of a all the wrong line.

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That's what I did.

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And that's, uh, maybe that'll help you out a little bit on finding that out for you.

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So we move past your, uh, you know, your prep, your teamwork with your partner, um, and,

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and, and some of the, the food stuff that you're packing, um, pack extra pads, uh, or blankets

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for them to plan on the grass.

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Um, when they're younger, they're just going to grab handfuls of stuff and shove them in

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their mouth.

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Uh, watch that, pebbles, grass, uh, charcoal.

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We had our kid eat a piece of charcoal once.

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Don't freak out, but make sure that you're watching what they're doing.

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If you have enough room for, uh, like a playpen, do that.

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We didn't.

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So we just used a large blanket and, uh, and make sure that you have like a large blanket

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for your, uh, like they're laying area too.

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Um, if you, if you prefer a bassinet, if you don't like co-sleeping, that you can definitely

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find bassinets on Amazon, uh, that only have the floors or that you could set stand alone

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without your stand.

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So, so make sure that you have, uh, you know, extra towels, blankets for them to lay on

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and you know, your bassinet.

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Uh, I would also recommend Bumbo seats, personal recommendation from me.

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Um, once they can sit up on their own and keep their, you know, their, their head and

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their back up, Bumbo seats are great for feeding.

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You can feed them anywhere and you could throw them on a folding chair and face them towards

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you.

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So what my wife would do a lot of the times is I would set up our folding chairs and

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she would put my folding chair opposing to me and she would feed them like that if we

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didn't have a picnic table.

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Um, but towards the beginning we were using, you know, going to a lot of state parks.

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Most of them had picnic tables so we could set up our chairs at the picnic table, put

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him in the Bumbo so that he was nice and sturdy and safe and feed him and it was like eating

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as a family on the dinner table.

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So, uh, the Bumbo was really nice for that and it's not a high chair.

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So you don't have that big folding mess and we really liked that.

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So there's your other thing, um, also when you're, you have a cooler or refrigerator,

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make sure you're bringing storage containers for breast milk.

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If you're, if your wife's significant other is producing breast milk and, uh, make sure

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that you have a way to store that so that it stays fresh and stays okay.

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A lot of the times my wife would feed the kid directly and she was overproducing so

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much that we ended up having to get rid of some of it.

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It sucks, but that was just kind of how it went at first.

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So making sure that you have a good storage system for that, um, as well as, uh, like

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I said earlier, making sure you have a way to warm up breast milk if your baby doesn't

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like it.

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I have a jet boil.

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Um, obviously you don't want your, your kid's milk to be boiling, but it does warm your

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kid's milk up as well as like a Coleman camp stove would.

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So, uh, make sure you have a way to warm it up.

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Uh, make sure you have storage solutions for your milk.

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Um, if you have to sanitize them just in fact, make sure you have a way to do that like a

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pot to boil the bottles in, have dedicated bottle brush, um, and then it brings me to,

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um, other than your bumbos towels.

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Why do you need towels?

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Um, the most, uh, you know, best way that I can put this is your, your baby is going

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to spit up at one point while you're camping.

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Um, whether you're lucky and that's on you or you're very unlucky and it's on your sleeping

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bag, um, it's going to happen.

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So just be prepared.

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Don't, don't get frustrated.

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It happens.

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It's part of the game.

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And yeah, my extra advice is to you is if you're sleeping with your child in a sleeping bag

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or you're sleeping with your kid in the bassinet, um, use a towel as a sheet or use a towel to

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put inside the sleeping bag with you.

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We did co-sleep with our child and, uh, we don't give a shit.

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Uh, what others people think about that.

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That's what we did and it worked out very well for us.

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Uh, but we did co-sleep with the kid in the sleeping bag with us and we had a towel a lot

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of the times in the sleeping bag under the kids so that if he did spit up at least a

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little bit or, you know, any kind of bodily fluids, you know, he peed through his diaper,

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then we had at least a chance to save the sleeping bag.

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Um, so that it wasn't bad all weekend, but you know, that's where synthetic and non-down

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sleeping bags are kind of great because if something did happen, which we've had happen,

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you can just run to the laundromat.

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There are laundry mats in most towns, most small towns run to the laundry mat for 30

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minutes, have someone grab groceries, wash your sleeping bag and bring it back.

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It goes back to the, uh, glass half full mentality, working with your partner and your attitude.

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Make sure that, you know, you guys are all on the same page and you're trying to do this

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together.

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So, uh, you know, just, just, I, you know, we put a towel out there and if he puked,

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then, you know, we dealt with that.

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Uh, and if it was so bad that we needed to take it to the laundromat, we did.

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So we really like having a couple extra towels.

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Think of them, you know, I brought three towels I brought for one for me, one for the baby

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and one for the Sienna.

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And we used, uh, you know, we used one of them for the sleeping bag, kept the other ones

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if we took a shower or anything and that was it.

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So we got your bumbo, we got your food, your packed, you got all that in the truck.

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Um, and then now it comes to my advice is, is, is as a team, figure out who's going to

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do what and work together.

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So for me, my wife had, and I have a dynamic that works really well for us, might not work

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well for you, but that's your job to figure it out together as a team.

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Uh, so my wife and I, I primarily deal everything with driving with the truck, with organization,

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with the packing, uh, because I like to know where everything's at.

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I like the organization and it bothers me if it's out of place.

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So I do that primarily and she lets me and, and so her job is to, especially when I'm

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when it was younger to take care of the child and to make sure the child's needs were well

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thought of and taken care of.

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So at that, you know, uh, you know, three to 10 months, you know, it's all about mom.

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You know, the kid doesn't have much autonomy.

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They don't really know that they're separated from their mother, you know, uh, you know,

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deep down they don't really feel that way.

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They still feel like they're connected.

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So, um, for us, that was just kind of an easier way for us to go.

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Okay.

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Well, he's already, you know, if he's going to get upset.

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That you know what he wants.

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He wants mom.

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He wants, um, anyone serve her comfort.

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So that's, that's an easy way for us to go.

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Hey, maybe that's, that's the rule that we take.

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So we took more of the traditional role.

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And so I, I, when we get to our campsite, she'll take him out.

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Um, she'll come for him, get him ready to change him, do whatever we need to do.

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I take the 10 out.

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I set up the 10.

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I put all the bedding into it and then she gets in there with the baby and she puts the

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bedding together.

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So it's not super hard.

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You know, sometimes the baby crawling around could be annoying, but, um, but it's, it's

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not crazy.

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It's not super labor intensive.

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The tents already made the rain flies already up.

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Um, she had a chance to relax a little bit with the baby beforehand.

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Now she can chill with the baby inside the tent, get the bedding ready.

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And while she's doing that, I am cooking.

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I'm getting at, you know, the chairs out.

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I'm getting the mosquito stuff out.

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I'm getting any kind of stuff that we need for the night.

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Um, the bathroom, the, our little pop out, your, uh, pop out shower taken out.

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I'm setting everything up to make it as comfortable and just set camp up as efficiently as I can

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while she sets up the bedding.

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So usually she's got the bedding all done by then.

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She can go and relax in the chair with the kid while I cook dinner.

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I cook dinner.

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I make the kid the food and let's just play this out.

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He's at his six month mark.

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He's eating purees.

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I'm making, uh, I'm making food for him, putting it into his little bowl.

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Another thing you should have is a little cutlery for your baby.

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Just makes it a little easier.

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Um, I'm, or just use the cup that it came in.

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Uh, you know, we do that a lot too.

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We'll just pour the infant cereal into the, uh, into the puree cup, mix it up.

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And that's usually plenty for him.

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He's fine.

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So we'll mix that up in there.

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Um, well, I'll have that ready and she'll feed him in the bumbo seat on the picnic table.

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Uh, and I'll have food ready and cook so she can eat that as well.

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And then I typically eat much faster than her.

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So I'm, you know, I'm done in like a minute and then, you know, so I take over feeding

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the baby while she finishes her food.

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And then that's how we run it.

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Uh, we get done doing all that.

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She takes the baby back into the tent or back out to the fire area or wherever she's at.

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Uh, I clean up dishes.

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I close up camp, close up the food for the night, go in the tent and the baby sleeps

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with her in the sleeping bag to stay warm.

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And that's pretty much how we do it.

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And which, you know, then it's pretty much the reverse, the exact reverse way when we're

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packing up, she sits in the tent, packs the stuff up while the baby's crawling around.

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I pack all the accessories and all the big stuff up because I like to have it in a certain

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way.

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So I can find it when I need it.

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And, and that's it.

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I mean, it's really, it's really good for us to have our little team and to have our,

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um, dynamic that way.

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It works for us.

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So find that way that works for you guys.

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Um, you know, do your best, keep the positive attitude, make sure that you guys are keeping

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each other's buckets full as they say.

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Um, and if you notice that someone's, someone's attitude, someone's mentality is, you know,

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dragging or it's getting really hard, pick up the slack and, and, and do better and they'll

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do the same for you.

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And at the bottom, you know, the bottom line, if you guys are both having a terrible time,

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the kids constantly crying, you guys are just, you're just having a crap time.

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Go home.

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I mean, it's okay to go home.

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It's okay to live and fight another day.

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00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,320
It's okay to, you're not quitting.

451
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,720
You're not a failure.

452
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,000
And I'm only saying that because sometimes I felt like that when we just couldn't do

453
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000
it.

454
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,120
There were times where Jasper was teething that maybe we just were not having a great

455
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,120
time.

456
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:15,680
Um, you know, we're both stubborn, so we didn't pack up, but there were definitely times where

457
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,760
we wanted to.

458
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,720
And honestly, we probably would have had a better time at home than we were camping,

459
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,720
but we're both stubborn.

460
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160
We both wanted to be out there and we both wanted to do it.

461
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,400
So, you know, just remember that it's okay.

462
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,560
Remember that you're the, you know, remember that your baby also grows at a different pace.

463
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,840
So a lot of the things that I'm talking about is based on my experience with my son and

464
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,280
your kid is going to be completely different or maybe he's similar or she's similar and

465
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,840
you that's okay.

466
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520
They everyone grows at their own pace and that's okay.

467
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,800
So if you, with that being said, if you're not ready to take your child out at three

468
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,040
months, absolutely okay.

469
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,040
No shame.

470
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,440
If you're not ready to take your kid out after six months, absolutely okay.

471
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,440
No shame.

472
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,640
You know, there's no shame about it.

473
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,560
So it's kind of the great thing about this camping, overlanding world is that 90% of

474
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,120
these other overlanders and campers have done the same thing, um, have, have lived the same

475
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,920
thing and have great advice, uh, to help you get through it too.

476
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,840
I mean, I'm just one of many, um, you know, I was really worried at first that some of

477
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,320
these other guys that I camp with and overland with would, you know, be upset that my kid's

478
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,160
crying part of the night, you know, and, um, I always ask, you know, Hey, is it okay?

479
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,360
At least do stop worrying.

480
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,800
We've had kids.

481
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,800
We get it.

482
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,960
You know, we're not going to yell at you.

483
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,040
We're not upset about the fact that you have a kid that you're crying, you know, that he's

484
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,680
crying, you know, you're out here, you're doing it.

485
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,520
A lot of people do the same way and just remember that when you're out there, especially at state

486
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520
parks.

487
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,120
You know, park campgrounds, who cares?

488
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,960
Dude, people run their generators all night.

489
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,120
They have dogs, their kids are screaming.

490
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:47,120
Who cares?

491
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:48,320
The state parks are the walmers of camping.

492
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440
So don't even worry about state parks.

493
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,640
I, the only time that I really worried was when I was group camping, group dispersed

494
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,680
overlanding and, and I didn't want to wake other people up and you know what, they don't

495
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,680
have kids.

496
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Most of them get it or they love kids and they don't care.

497
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,040
Um, obviously if it bothers you that much position yourself at the farthest away, I

498
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,560
put, I would put my 10 on the other side of the vehicle so that it wouldn't bother anyone

499
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
who would help, you know, drown out the crying or something.

500
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,920
But we, you know, we also, the kid also stayed in mom's arms most of the time.

501
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,080
So we didn't really have to, he didn't really have a lot of downtime crying.

502
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,360
Um, in the colic, you know, we solved that a lot of the times, uh, early on before he

503
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,680
was, you know, into his teething phase.

504
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920
So keep that in mind.

505
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,680
Um, and you know, take everything I say with a grain of salt too, cherry pick what you

506
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,680
want, keep what you don't.

507
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:41,400
Um, and a lot of this, you know, it, it transfers over to overland and camping and even backpacking.

508
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,400
Backpacking is a lot of the same.

509
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,880
The only extra advice I would have with backpacking is that, uh, to get a really comfortable and

510
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,000
safe for the baby's hips, a child carrier, uh, in, in practice before you go out and

511
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,240
do these long hikes too, because this child carrier that you think might be great.

512
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,280
Um, it's not the same as a backpack, man.

513
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,040
It's going to feel a little different.

514
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,800
We, we started with a child carrier and quickly moved to a backpack, uh, because it was better

515
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,040
on our shoulders, better on our back.

516
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,960
And we went with the Deuter kid comfort and we really liked it.

517
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,440
It was a very, very expensive investment.

518
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Uh, but you know what?

519
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,880
I don't think any other backpack would have done better.

520
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,360
So we really like it.

521
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:20,480
It's got the sun shields, got really good frame, really good back support and I'm a bigger

522
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,480
guy.

523
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,720
So it fits me well.

524
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,760
And like I said, my, you know, it's a lot of the same thing, uh, except for, you know,

525
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,880
the husband or whoever that's carrying the most weight or who can carry the most weight

526
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,920
is carrying for himself.

527
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,960
He's carrying for the partner and he's carrying for the baby.

528
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,880
So in our case, I carried clothes for me, clothes for my wife, clothes for my baby, extra diapers

529
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,880
for the baby.

530
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520
I was in a base camp, you know, of the baby.

531
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:53,840
So I had any medicine, uh, cream, milk, uh, like the formula and water carried all that

532
00:28:53,840 --> 00:29:00,000
and mom carried baby, a diaper, a changing pad and some wipes.

533
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,960
And, you know, that would equal out to about the same because carrying a baby weight wise

534
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,320
might be lighter, but it's not the same.

535
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,480
So my other tip is to use a pacifier tethers, uh, the little silicone ones.

536
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,440
You can get it like Meyer Walmart and use those not only for pacifiers, but use them

537
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720
for toys, hang them off the backpack.

538
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,160
So when the kid's done playing with his toys, you can just throw them down.

539
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,640
And if also the side of the backpack and you don't have to keep picking it up.

540
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,280
So, uh, tethers, really nice tether your tethers to it.

541
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Super great.

542
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,760
The other thing I would say is to have a pocket mirror.

543
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Miranda goes outside, I believe it is, or Miranda goes hiking, uh, to YouTube channel.

544
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,960
She does one episode where she hikes with a kid and she recommends doing the, uh, having

545
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,400
a pocket mirror on your shoulder strap so that you can look at your pocket mirror and

546
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,520
look at the kid behind you on your back and see what's going on, see if their hat fell

547
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,040
too far down.

548
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,720
That's an absolutely fantastic idea.

549
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,920
We found ourselves taking the backpack off or craning our necks constantly.

550
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760
So we're even using our phone's camera to look back.

551
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,640
So it'd be really nice to have a little pocket mirror sitting there.

552
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,520
So all great ideas.

553
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Um, like I said, take them or leave them.

554
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,000
For backpacking, you know, those were our main, my main advice.

555
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,360
My, my other big thing is to remember that you're backpacking with a kid now and that,

556
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,280
uh, these, these 20 mile hikes probably aren't going to happen.

557
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,920
Uh, not like you think you're not going to cover 20 miles in a day.

558
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,880
And if you do congrats, but you're not going to do it at the same, same timeframe.

559
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Don't expect to cover 20 miles in 10 hours.

560
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,680
It's not going to happen like that.

561
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,280
Again, if you're a super person, cool, good for you.

562
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Not happening for the average person.

563
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,960
If we had a, uh, you know, let's say a five mile loop that we would do, uh, backpacking

564
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,320
or hiking, um, that would take us much longer than it typically would, uh, just walking

565
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,320
around.

566
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,200
You have to remember your baby, uh, is going to get restless.

567
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,200
It's going to want out.

568
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,200
It's going to want fed.

569
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,200
It's going to want proct.

570
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040
It's going to want comfort.

571
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920
And a lot of babies don't love sitting in a backpack for hours.

572
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,960
So, uh, just, just realize that if it's going to take you a three hours to hike this loop,

573
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360
it's going to take you four and a half hours to hike this loop.

574
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,280
And to be prepped for that, you know, especially if you're going out like after work and like

575
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,720
we would go after work and do like an hour hike, who'd turn into an hour and a half to

576
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,840
two hour hike pretty quick with his, how much the baby wanted to get out.

577
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Um, he would get fussy.

578
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,520
You have time to change him, uh, make him a bottle or, or feed him while we're sitting.

579
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,920
So keep that in mind.

580
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,160
Uh, that's, that's very important.

581
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,960
And yeah, I mean, so yeah, we went over over landing, hiking, backpacking, you know, kind

582
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,960
of the same thing.

583
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Camping, we went over food, some things to prep.

584
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,320
What else?

585
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,320
What else?

586
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,320
What else?

587
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,040
Um, yeah, I think that's all that I have off the top of my head.

588
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Um, all, this is all unscripted.

589
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,160
So I'm just, I'm thinking of things as I'm talking, which is why I tend to, uh, to drift

590
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360
off and go off course quite a bit.

591
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,560
So, but I think we covered the basics and, and you know, and at the end of the day, getting

592
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,960
outside and doing it is the most important step that you can do.

593
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,240
Uh, you figure out what you need later.

594
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,360
And a lot of what I've said is stuff that I figured out after, uh, but I still got out

595
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,360
and did it.

596
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,120
So, you know, get your basics, make sure the baby's fed and taken care of and, and get

597
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,000
out there, you know, to do some safe conditions, do it in your backyard, do it at a state camp

598
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,360
ground, figure out what you need as you go.

599
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,880
And you know what?

600
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Have fun.

601
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,360
You don't keep that positive attitude and remember that it's okay to quit.

602
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,280
It's okay to come back to this at a different time.

603
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,560
You know, if it's too hard to do it when they're three, four or five months old, come back

604
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,880
when they're five, six, seven, eight months old.

605
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,120
I mean, it's, it's not always about just pushing through and looking good about it.

606
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,720
It's, it's about you having fun.

607
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640
It's about the baby having a good time too.

608
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Um, and for me, you know, I think I started so early, you know, the day that he was born,

609
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,760
I had a forest sounds rain that played out as loud as I could.

610
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Um, unintentionally, but I think I was getting him ready for all this because when he came

611
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,320
out to, for the first time, when he's a FOMO baby, he spent all day looking at the trees

612
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000
and the grass and having, you know, soaking all of it up the first time.

613
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000
It was amazing.

614
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,960
But two, it didn't really bother him.

615
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,960
Nothing bothered him.

616
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,240
He could sleep with it being loud out the rain on the tent, which I did play a lot of the

617
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,280
times to help him come to fall asleep before we even ever went camping.

618
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,320
I would put like rain in the tent sounds or rain in the forest and play those, uh, not

619
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,640
loud, but loud enough that, uh, you know, normal talking, uh, volume for inside of a

620
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:49,880
room and I would play those loudly because, um, you know, sleeping in, in silence, you

621
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,000
don't want to do that for a baby because they get used to that silence.

622
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Uh, so are the equivalent of sleeping with a fan on your use to the hum.

623
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,040
So to me, it was that you're, I was used to the having the rain and camp sounds like that.

624
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,000
I, I wanted to do the same for him.

625
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000
And I think it worked out.

626
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Honestly, I do.

627
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,240
Um, he could sleep in just about any, anything right now.

628
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,560
He could, he slept during the fireworks at our fourth of July slept right through him

629
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,600
and we were maybe a hundred feet from it.

630
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,480
So, you know, I think that's really important too.

631
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Uh, but yeah, that's other than that, getting him accustomed to camping and sleeping in

632
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,560
a tent and the sounds, um, that's very important, uh, too.

633
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,640
And I think that kind of wraps it up.

634
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,680
I appreciate you guys listening in on here.

635
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,960
This was a pretty long episode for what it was supposed to be, but I just had all this

636
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,960
information, I guess.

637
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,800
So thanks for tuning in to botches off road on the special little podcast about taking

638
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,440
your baby out, camping, overlanding and hiking.

639
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,520
And I hope to see you guys out here on that.

640
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Some of these next episodes, you got some really cool stuff coming up.

641
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,520
We have some interviews coming up with some important people.

642
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,800
We just did an interview with Benji at newfound overland, formerly budget overland.

643
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,220
And we have a, uh, we have a, someone coming on here that's talking about some of the North

644
00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:04,480
Carolina stuff, um, what she witnessed and some of the relief aid that some of our off

645
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,480
road groups provided.

646
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,760
So super happy to have her on here.

647
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,440
And that's just, uh, just a start, man.

648
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520
This is only like our fifth, sixth, seventh episode.

649
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,320
So, uh, yeah, I mean, there's nowhere to really go, but up.

650
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,520
So thanks for tuning in.

651
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Thanks for listening to botches off road.

652
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,880
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