Welcome to Boxes Off Road.
Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping to
rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors.
Today it's going to be just me and Alex and a very, very special guest, the one, the only
the Mr. Benji from Newfound Overland.
How are you doing today, Benji?
Hey guys, doing good.
Thanks for having me on.
I'm glad it worked out.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
I guess first and foremost, you want to give us a little background about who you are and
just for some of the newer listeners who might not know.
Sure.
Oh yeah.
My name is Benji and I'll go back to kind of the genesis of where I got started.
I started a Facebook group called Budget Overland.
That was literally January of 2021 and that thing blew up like crazy.
About a time we were growing maybe 500 a week to 2,500 a week until we kind of hit our peak
around 55,000 and then I like hit the, hit the hold button, hit the pause button.
You could do that on groups and actually went hidden for a long time there.
So that spawned Budget Overland podcast.
I had a cohost back in the day.
We started that I think November of 21.
So a few months after I started the Facebook group, got into podcasting.
That's how I got into it.
It's quite fun as you boys know.
It's it's blast.
And anyway, I did Budget Overland for a couple of years.
Me and my old partner, we kind of split ways as far as the podcast goes.
And then I started a new found Overland this past February and actually April.
I quit BO in February and then I launched new found in April.
Here we are.
It's been a wild ride.
Yeah, see, I'm a little newer.
I started listening to newfound Overland first.
And I didn't know at first that you had started that Facebook group.
I've been a part of that Facebook group since like 2021.
I had no idea.
Just kind of, I just kind of started looking into overlanding.
And that's kind of how I started.
I was just looking at ways to car camp and I broke 99% of the time.
So that was like my main thing was looking at how to overland on a budget.
Because some of these guys, it's you know, you get the overland tax everywhere now and
you're just looking for the cheapest ways to get out there and actually still have fun
and still do the same thing.
He says he wants to overland on a budget and then he buys an FJ Cruiser.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that don't have a lot of people going with you, but I've seen a few built out ones
around here.
They're pretty rad.
They're a space, just like third gen forerunners, man.
They just, you got to use every inch of them.
Yeah.
So, you know, that's funny.
Alex actually has a third gen forerunner, so he knows.
And I have a wife and a son that I'm trying to overland with and do this with.
And that's like my biggest challenge right now is trying to get everything to fit in
the most optimized as you can, especially with an FJ.
Right.
I mean, that's tough.
Do you have any insight as far as like organization and stuff that you kind of found with your
third gen that...
Sure.
It kind of goes back to just the person, instead of you guys, rooftop tenors, ground dwellers,
hammock dwellers, what do you guys do as far as your family?
Oh, I'm 100% a ground dweller.
Yeah, I'm a ground dweller for now.
And I think eventually we're going to move up to rooftop for ease of use and storage
of bedding, having that with us at all times.
Yeah.
Back when I started out, I got kind of into this overland thing when it was being called
overlanding back in like 2017, 18.
No, it was earlier than that.
Maybe it was 16 or 17, somewhere around there.
Anyhow, at the time I had a different third gen forerunner and I bought one of those cheap
roller racks and I did that low profile mod and all that fun stuff.
You could buy the extension rack, stick it in there, get some more space.
But that freed up a lot of that interior room for me.
Anything that could get dusty or wet, it went on top.
Over the years, I built a drawer system in the back of my rig.
Simplicity, the whole point of that was just to know where everything was at.
For the longest time, we would take totes or we'd take bags and it's like, well, where's
the Tylenol?
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Strip.
So you're just going through everything, making a mess.
But now it's like my wife, when she goes, I go a lot solo, but whenever my family goes
with me, she'll be like, hey, where's this?
And I know immediately where it's at.
And if something's not in that spot, I get pissed.
I get mad.
What the heck?
Yeah, see, now Alex can attest to that now.
I've started a working drawer system.
I'm going to build my own soon, but right now I have a shelf above my fridge and then
I have some really cheap drawers that I bought from Walmart, those clear slide out drawers.
And I put all my cooking stuff in there.
And we just went this last weekend and that was the same thing.
My wife and my son getting into my stuff and where's this?
Where's that?
And his and his gang, where's this?
Where's that?
And being able to know where everything's at is half of the battle.
Yeah.
I cannot wait till I've got my pack out.
I just know where everything's at.
It's a process, man.
It's like you have to learn it every time you go.
You could do it.
You're driving and this is it.
This is perfect.
And once you're out there, it's like, Nope, try setting up camp in a storm at 10 o'clock
or 11 o'clock at night when it's pitch black and you're getting, you know, buckets of rain
just dumped on you.
You want to get, you want to get to shelter.
You want to get food and then you want to be done.
I think I'd give up and put my seat back in a sleeping truck.
Yeah.
See, see what that's exactly.
See?
Yeah.
That's going to be the same thing with me and my son.
You know, you can't, can't delete the seats right now because he's got the car seats still.
He's only 11 months old.
So we've been, we've been doing that since he was three months old.
Did you have the F-3 cruiser whenever you, whenever you had your son or was it after
he was born?
Cause we had one when my son was still in my wife's belly.
And then soon after, soon after he was born, she's like, I'm not doing this with the suicide
car.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
I bought it two years ago and, and we did car camping in it when she was pregnant and
did, you know, the, the door latch upgrade in there so we could get in and out from the
back.
And then once we started, once we had them, I, I honestly did, I thought about going to
like a GX or something else for door, like a fifth gen forerunner just because it was
just such a pain in my butt, but had a lot of friends talk to me and just like, Hey man,
yeah, it's pain, but like you get a lot from keeping it too.
So yeah.
I think part of the, Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I think part of the fun for me is, is just trying to optimize that space as well as I
can.
So yeah, I mean, definitely.
I know Alex was looking into getting a roof rack too for his third gen.
That seems to be a problem with the third gen forerunners is getting that roof rack
upgraded.
Yeah.
The, there's a few out on the market now, but back in the day it was pretty much this
Sherpa and Prince, but now you've got victory four by four.
There's some other small pop-up shops that guys will do out of their house, but I don't
blame them.
You know, older platforms like that for a newer company to try to get in on aftermarket
support.
It's kind of a, each then overlanding really.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
What's the, what's the biggest issue you've kind of came into with your third gen?
I mean, overall, I guess I third gens have been like, are like the golden nuggets around
here.
Like everyone wants one.
Yeah.
Like far as major issues go or anything like that, just kind of keeping up with the miles.
So you know, mine's got 326,000 on the clock right now.
And you know, I've done every mechanical thing imaginable other than replacing the engine
transfer case and transmission.
Everything else has been swapped.
Axles, front rear.
You know, bushings all around.
Everything's brand new on it.
You know, valve covers other than like front rear main seals, like everything else has
been slowly up.
Or stuff, you know, that's the beauty of these older vehicles.
They're cheap when you get them, but over time the money, but I know this one's a good one.
I've got a couple parts rigs on, but I need to pull a couple of engines out and freshen
them up.
So whenever this thing's ready to go, I could put one in there.
I plan on keeping this one for a hot minute.
As much money and time as I put into it, I know it's a good one.
I've driven it.
We just did a Colorado trip this year and I always go to Arkansas.
As many chances as I get, I got another trip coming up in November down there.
You know, so it's good to have a piece of my vision on these older vehicles.
So like rear axle bearings, all that fun stuff that, you know, Toyota's it's a pain in the
butt to do, but I've done everything sealed up proper for at least a good another 40, 60
thousand miles.
Maybe if I'm lucky wheeling like that kind of wears them out a little bit, but.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
We just had a Tacoma go out here and, and break the CV out this weekend.
So yeah, that's kind of a, along with the axle axles, CVs along with it.
Yeah.
I just did my whole rear axle, all the wheel bearings, the seals, everything.
And I've actually got another third gen that's tore apart in my driveway right now.
I'm getting ready to get the same stuff done.
Nice.
It's quite the process, man.
Yeah.
You mentioned Arkansas is going down there as much as he can.
Is that kind of your favorite state for overlanding, exploring, camping?
It really is.
I could get down to the heart of the Ozarks in about four hours, really depending on where,
but three to four hours I'm down there.
Missouri kind of sucks for off-road vehicular recreation, even if it can be a service, a
forest service road or something, you still have the locals that'll put up a gate and
chain it.
And I've wasted more time backtracking than enjoying, you know, the trail.
I've got the Mark Twain National Forest to the south of me, about 30 miles.
I'll go out there and putt around and that's actually going to be kind of a winter project.
I say winter project.
I've got so many irons in the fire, but me and my buddy, we need to go.
We'll map some more trail down there because I've got friends that come up from Arkansas
and I've kind of showed them the same thing.
As you go further east into the Mark Twain, it kind of gets a little bit better for wheeling
and it opens up for more trail.
But down here, I'm near a military installation and they'll do range firing and it's kind
of unique driving next to that when you're hearing these 50 cal rounds just going pop,
pop, pop, pop right next to you.
And you're like, is this legal?
Are we not supposed to be out?
I'm an Army vet.
I spent some time there at Fort Leonardwood.
That place is a little...
Did you like it or are you one of those guys that I was like, I can't wait to get out of
here.
It's not offering me nothing.
Lucky for me, it was always training.
I was only there for a few weeks.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, we do kind of understand what you mean though.
We have a camp near us, Grayling.
So it's kind of the same thing.
Wheeling's not bad.
Sometimes they'll have some things locked off when do they have like arms training and
stuff.
Michigan's not great for off-roading, especially if you go in like onyx, if you want to look
at the rated trails or anything, their trails are...
The ones that are blue are pretty much green as far as difficulty.
They're really not hard.
So the hardest ones we have are Drummond Island, which is still pretty fun.
Since they bulldozed Marblehead, I can't even say Drummond Island is anything hard.
So we're looking to go out of state now.
So it was kind of nice to hear that you like the Ozarks and stuff like that.
It is worth a trip.
If you guys can come down, even if you come down...
For me, it's hard to get away for more than four or five days at a time.
But if you can come down for a good long weekend, three, four days, hoof it down here, kind
of trail your way back a little bit to help you on your way home, 100% worth it, man.
It's so gorgeous down there.
It's so untapped still from the crap we're living in now with people.
You've actually got to go to find the good spots, but they're out there.
That's my main thing is I really like the exploratory aspect of overlanding, finding
these spots, mapping them out and saving them for the future.
So I watch a lot of that.
Oh gosh, the Overland channel down there.
Ozark Overland.
Yeah, Ozark Overland.
Gosh, those guys are so cool.
He is...
Yeah, Matt McClellan.
Is that who you're talking about with the Jeep?
He...
Some people love him, some people hate him, but it's like you got to give credit to the
dude.
He's the one that...
He's mapped every trail down there because I've had him on...
I think it was Budget Overland podcast we were talking.
He's like, yeah, I've pretty much mapped everything down there that you can legally map.
That's back when they were just recording off iPhones and the really cheap GoPro 2s
and stuff, but...
Oh yeah.
I used full blown full timer, so hats off to him.
That's cool.
Yeah, absolutely.
Man, I would love to be full time.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I think that's my goal.
And if I don't do...
And if it's not full time, I think I'm just going to move west every few years.
I'm just going to move a little bit more west and just move around the country because that
makes it really easy to overland if you're just renting a house right up here in Colorado
or something for a couple of years.
So what do you got done to that third gen other than your roof rack and your storage
stuff?
Do you got what kind of lift?
I need to do a vehicle walk around.
I've been saying that for three or four years.
It's a Frankenstein, that's for sure.
I've got some fifth gen 4Runner stuff on here and I've got some 80 series Land Cruiser stuff.
That's primarily the front.
Well the rear springs are the front springs off of an 80 series.
Rear shocks are off of a fifth gen 4Runner that are for a three inch lift for a fifth
gen.
So I've got quite a bit of travel.
The front is a three inch, well it's technically it's the Bilstein.
What series is it?
It's the one everybody goes to.
5100s.
Yeah, 5100s.
Yeah.
But I forget the springs that I have on it.
They're a medium size spring.
They're not super stiff but they're not super light.
It's got some good rebound to it.
It's not so up and down like you would think but it's not a brick when you need it.
So that's kind of it for there.
I've got the factory rear locker.
Front lockers I don't really, I'm not a fan of for IFS vehicles.
I think they're just prone to breaking the CV axle.
And if a lot of listeners might not know but like CV axles are intended to break.
That a way you're not doing super major carnage.
So whenever Jeep guys say, oh look at you, you snapped another CV.
I've only maybe two CV axles in the last three years.
It just depends on how you drive it.
I mean a lot of skinny pedal fans out there but I think if you go slow and you can crawl.
That's another thing.
I've reduced my gears to 488s.
That helped out a ton.
A lot of guys when they're going to do regearing, they always do 411s or they just jump to 529s.
It's like 488s are the sweet spot if you stick with them like a two to three inch lift and
you're not going to run anything larger than like a 33 inch tire.
So each platform's a little different.
You know the 510E engines, not a powerhouse or nothing, but like a 20R or 22RE, I feel
like it's sufficient enough to where I don't complain about it other than when I go up
hills and I'm hitting four grand, five miles an hour if I'm lucky.
But that's it for suspension.
I've got a rear swing out.
It was the True North Fabrication single swing out, the full length swing out which was a
pain in the butt.
So I had a buddy last year, he came up with a design to do a dual swing out.
We used the existing True North bumper and everything like that and he just pretty much
welded on the swing out doors.
Front is a ARB.
That was on the vehicle when I purchased it.
The only thing that sucks about ARBs is whenever you're throwing a winch on there, you've got
to clock it to fit perfectly where the control box is.
So I had to try out twice to clock it to where I could put that control box.
Obviously, it couldn't be underneath the vehicle so I put it between my grill which has worked
fine.
I really want to get a wireless winch control deal but I've yet to do that.
Every time I think of that, it's whenever I'm using it.
And that's about it.
Everything else is pretty much stock.
I've got the roof rack, got the rooftop tent, got an awning.
Rear is the interior, rear is the drawer system.
I don't have any onboard power but I've got a power inverter behind my seat to where I
could reach back there and flip it on, flip it off.
And then I've got my fridge behind my seat as well.
That's why I was kind of laughing when we were talking earlier about just getting in
the car and sleeping.
In the front seat of my rig at least four times straight up.
It was way more comfortable than whatever I was experiencing.
Whenever I went to Colorado, I slept in there one night because I didn't bring enough blankets.
I didn't bring enough hoodies or anything.
I brought my little zero breeze but that was pointless in the mountains at 12,000 feet
and everyone was kind of roasting me a little bit.
I've been to Colorado this is my fifth year going to Colorado.
I know the temperatures and stuff but it was 100 degrees here in the Midwest and I guess
my dumb brain was just kind of thinking that weather would follow me.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, it just kind of carries over.
We actually just got to the early 30s degrees here this last weekend.
Oh yeah.
After the...
After the first night, me and my son in the tent were like, all right, we're going to
camp.
All right, let's head to town.
Let's grab a little buddy and take the edge off a little bit.
That got us thinking, okay, are we going to do diesel?
Are we going to run little buddies?
I think with the rooftop tent, it's got to be a diesel.
Yeah, man, I don't know.
My diesel heater is freaking awesome.
We go camping, winter camping all the time.
Whenever it's like for us, it doesn't get negative really at all.
We're down in the single digits sometimes with teens and it's crazy to think that whenever
I'm out there camping in that cold weather, I've got the windows open because the diesel
heater is going.
Yeah, that's definitely the plan for next year.
I want to be able to do winter camping and I think this winter is going to be a whole
lot of paying off all the debt I've accrued from building up my rig this year and then
mid summer, we're going for a rack.
I've been looking at the four by four Colorado tents.
Those are good.
Yeah, they look really sturdy, like a long lasting investment.
And then yeah, looking at building out my own diesel heater out of like a Pelican or
something.
You could buy those H calorie ones off Amazon, change out the fuel lines and you can have
less than 80 bucks in it.
Yeah, for sure.
Even once you want to go to your Pelican style, because that's what I did initially.
I bought a VVOR and then built mine out of a box.
That was before all the other stuff kind of came to the market.
But every once in a while you can catch those sales off those H calorie.
They're really inexpensive, but man, that'd be worth it for sure.
Especially right now.
I know it sucks spending a bunch of money.
Yeah, no, that's really good advice.
I appreciate that.
It's going to be something that I was thinking maybe next winter.
But honestly, a lot of people are kind of pointing towards that same way too.
So I might have to start it up this winter and get something going.
Yeah.
But yeah, I was kind of hoping as well to talk to you a little bit about this Midwest
Adventure Outfitters thing you got going on.
You're getting ready to open up too.
Yeah, man, I'm stoked.
I know a whole lot as it's still not done, but I'm putting together an event.
I've kind of, that's where I'm at right now.
I'm on my way to shoot a little commercial for this event I'm going to do.
So I'm going to have a house November 23rd that's at the warehouse.
That's at my shop from 11 to two.
Try to make it fun.
Some drink like some free sodas and walking tacos and stuff like that.
Maybe people could show off their rigs, kind of like a rigs and coffee and just to hang
out for a couple hours there.
And then following there, I'm having an event.
I'll have bands.
We're going to do like a ginormous potluck dinner.
I got a guy smoking a bunch of turkeys for us and then everybody else has to bring a
side on the river.
We've got shower houses, so it's going to be nice.
So a lot of irons on the fire, but going back to the store, it's going to be an outfitter
shop slash you can come in and buy stuff as well.
And it's going to be e-commerce.
I'm going to have a website where you can buy stuff on there as well.
But I'm doing this in phases.
I'm not some rich multimillionaire.
I'm taking a chance.
I sold off a company or a little business I had.
So I'm taking some of that money, throw it into this.
And then phase two will be growing, like building onto my building.
And I plan to do some more Toyota specific in depth mechanic.
So like hire a tech or two, those guys could do water pumps, timing belts, whatever, you
know, engine swaps, axle, solid axle swaps, whatever they want to do more of a fab slash
mechanic shop on top of an outfit or shop.
So for me right now, as far as the outfit or shop, I just want to do bolts on stuff.
So if you want a rack, you don't have time or don't know how I'll throw the rack on there.
You order a tent, you don't know how to put it on there.
I'll throw it on there.
You know, stuff like that.
That's awesome.
I want it to be like a one-stop shop, but I've got to slowly grow into it.
You know, I don't want to go too big too fast.
I don't know how it's going to do.
But then again, you'd want to go to, you know, too cheap also got one shot to impress whoever
showing up.
I've got people coming from South Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas.
I got everybody coming to this open house.
So I don't want to disappoint them and I'm going to put them up.
Well, technically you got to pay for a ticket to come down here.
It'd be like 65 bucks per rig.
Plus you get a t-shirt and stickers.
That includes camping, live music, the food, the whole nine yards.
So that's what I'm trying to do.
Trying to do this.
Four weeks, a little over four weeks of crap done, man.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
No, I mean, that sounds like a good deal.
I mean, I mean, I know we're really excited about it being Toyota guys ourselves, but
just having another well-known source like you to have like an outfitter store.
We've listened to you for a while.
You're one of the people that we trust.
And so having someone that we already have listened to for a while that we know that
we can trust is kind of half the battle with finding Overland gear right now.
That's because that's kind of the scariest thing is you're going off of some people
you never met.
You're trusting them on their word on something.
And sometimes it can kind of bite you in the butt.
Especially third gens, man.
All we've got are forums.
There's not really any shops that know exactly what to do for a third gen.
There's not a lot down here either.
Like the old first gen pickups, old first gen forerunners.
No one knows how to work on those.
I've got a mentor buddy of mine.
He's pushing 80 and we were doing motor swaps six, seven years ago together.
And he's taught me a lot of the old school mechanic tricks, Toyota stuff.
That wealth of knowledge he shared with me.
I don't really like messing with 20 Rs and 22 Rs and all that stuff or REs.
They're just, they're kind of dogs, but there's some people out there that just love them.
I don't even know what the max horsepower is like 120, maybe 116.
I'll give you that.
But with all these older vehicles like the third gen platform and stuff like that, they
got great drive trains in them that people are pulling out and swapping.
They got a better turnkey response versus trying to, if you went the Weber route or
electric choke or what have you, you know, he takes the guesswork out of it.
But that's, that's just up to the person in their budget.
But going back to what you're saying, I am being very open, open about this and transparent
about it.
Like if someone comes to the shop and they just hand me their credit card and they want
me to build it out, I'll probably refuse to do that.
Cause that's just, that's not good business ship.
And then it's also horrible for that person to just come in there and start buying things
they think they need.
And you guys know it's like overlanding, even in the last five years has spurred off into
so many different things.
You've got hunters, fishermen, you've got people going to events like biking and stuff
that they, they, they live like an overlander because it's less, you know, expensive to
getting a hotel and all that stuff.
But then your needs and wants and all that stuff shift as well.
So my needs and wants might be different than yours and your guys might be different than
each other's.
You never know.
Yeah.
That's a big difference between Alex and I is Alex likes to set up camp and, and for,
you know, for three days and then wheel the area like a base camp set up.
And then I, I personally like to almost expedition style.
I'll set up one day at one spot and then I'll, you know, travel the trails until I get to
the next spot set up there, move on and try to, and try to map the trails, try to see
all that I can see in the time that I'm there.
So there's just so many different, you know, different ways that you could set your vehicle
up and it's going to be very different from Alex to it is to me, to this to you.
And I think that's a really important and I love that you said that you'd probably just
refuse them honestly.
Cause I was right there with you when you said that because it's so hard and you don't
know what you need until you're actually out there doing it in the first place.
And then you start realizing like, Hey, you know, maybe, you know, maybe I don't want
to sit in the rain in my tent.
Maybe I want an awning.
Okay.
What side do I want it on?
So that's, that's probably one of my biggest advice.
And I think a lot of people's biggest advice is actually just get out there and do it first
then figure it out.
Cause I mean, you could look at everything on paper.
You could say, I have cool.
I want an awning.
Yeah.
What side do you want it on?
Do you want it on the back?
Do you want on the front?
How big do you want it?
You don't really know that until you're out there doing it.
You get a better idea of what your end game setup is.
And it's cool to see all the cool, it's not necessarily tech even it's just product that
has helped, I guess helps people pick and choose more.
What falls in there under their category of comfort, you know, cause you get the old school
guys, they're like, I've been doing this since the seventies because they didn't have these
cool luxury things when you're now they did some, I'm not taking any credit away from
these old boys or anything like that.
It ain't the same.
That's why you've got these people coming out and pros because of all the cool tech
that makes it easier for mom to go with the boys.
So it's just kind of, yeah, that's, that's my biggest thing is my wife and son, if I'm
going, they're going with me and they like being out just as much as I do.
So, so making sure my wife has a good time while she's out there is, you know, is number
one.
So making sure she's comfortable, she's got good food, you know, is, is kind of my, my
number one, because if she doesn't like going, then you're like, oh man, you know, you got
to find something else.
So, so, you know, it's my son, he, he just stares at trees all day.
He loves it.
He doesn't, he doesn't care where we're at, what we're doing.
He loves the trails.
Alex going to test to that.
So it's, oh yeah, he's, he's great.
He's awesome for it.
But you know, my wife loves it, but you know, it's a, making sure that she's as comfortable
as she could be.
And of course I'm, I'm one of the types that I like to have good food and stuff while I'm
out there, you know, good steak, some good steak and eggs or something.
Yeah.
So I like to have a good, good little cooking setup and all that.
Um, are you running, uh, are you still running the clam shell?
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
It's the, um, what is it?
The base camp ever.
Yeah.
I picked that last year or yeah, it was last winter, last spring, a buddy was telling me
about this 50% off coupon he found and I'm, that's crazy.
So I bought it.
Those are ridiculously expensive anyway.
Absolutely.
I've had the Coleman two burner.
Those are fine.
Um, then I went to a 17 inch black stone, which that was fine.
It's just bulky.
And then this little guy, man, he just fits right in my little drawer.
It's like out of sight, out of mind.
It's perfect.
I think that might be my, uh, that might be my end game just for storage and space, keeping
that in mind.
You know, once I get my drawer systems finally figured out having a small cook area like
that, but still being able to cook with two pans.
So being able to cook full meals or make soup and stuff like that.
That's going to be really nice.
I, um, I think I noticed that when I was watching, I want to say it was one of your YouTube
videos.
Yeah.
Hey, speaking of YouTube videos, I'm working on one right now and I usually get really
impatient when I do YouTube videos, but this one's going to be pretty legit.
And I'm saying that because it's not done yet.
The first three minutes for me, at least are like, all right, this is pretty rad.
I could watch this, but you know, everyone's flavors different.
So, oh, for sure.
Yeah, no, we're super excited.
Like I said, we keep up with you all around.
I think pretty sure that, uh, pretty sure I just rewatched all of your stuff again,
just to make sure.
I think, uh, I was reading up or, or now I was listening to the Colorado trip with independence
because they're one of the other FJ, uh, overlanders.
Dude, like him, there's the, uh, there's Joey from professor bats and friends down in Arkansas.
I had a buddy of mine who had a fully built out FJ cruiser.
They're out there, but I mean, I'm talking, I'm talking rigs that have everything you
could think of.
Those three rigs come to mind.
Frickin Tyler's rigs insane.
Yeah, no, they're, those are inspiration rigs for sure.
Um, but yeah, man, I, uh, really, uh, really glad that you could join us here.
I know that you're kind of a, like you said earlier, you got a lot of irons at the fire.
You got stuff to do and I appreciate you coming in and talking to us.
Um, I think, uh, I think we learned a little bit.
I really like to do this again sometime.
Um, we need to do, we need to do a live stream.
You guys do live streams?
Yeah.
Yeah, but we're working on it.
Yeah, we're going to, well, maybe I could have you guys on mine one day.
Yeah.
That'd be really nice.
You know, off road Brian, I've talked about him sometimes on the show.
Um, he is the one meeting me out here because he does all my drone stuff.
He's got that a seven permit or whatever the heck it is.
So I just moved off whenever I need to have done.
Whenever it comes down to drones and stuff, I'm just too impatient to fly.
I think they're cool as heck, but I don't want to, um, risk it myself.
So he's got to, we're not in a rush right now.
He's actually on his way, but, uh, I've, I've appreciated talking to you guys.
I'm glad it worked out.
But like you said, with all the irons in the fire boys, I don't even know I'm having dinner
tonight.
Crazy.
Yeah, neither do we, but that's not because we don't have irons in the fire.
They were just broke all the time.
But Hey man, I really appreciate you having on here.
Thank you, Benji.
Um, anybody wants to check out his stuff?
Uh, newfound Overland on YouTube, Instagram.
Um, he's got the new podcast that he's got up there.
He's got a lot of really good episodes already.
So and I'll, uh, I'll link him in the show notes too.
So he'd be able to get to all this stuff from there.
Yeah.
Well, thank you very much.
Yeah, guys.
Appreciate it.
It was fun.
Yeah.