1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Welcome to Boxes Off Road. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,240 Join us as we talk about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, tent camping to 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,240 rock landing and all things to do with the outdoors. 4 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:20,360 Today it's going to be just me and Alex and a very, very special guest, the one, the only 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,160 the Mr. Benji from Newfound Overland. 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,160 How are you doing today, Benji? 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,840 Hey guys, doing good. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Thanks for having me on. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,840 I'm glad it worked out. 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,840 Yeah. 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,840 Yeah. 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,840 Thanks for having me. 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Yeah. 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,400 I guess first and foremost, you want to give us a little background about who you are and 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,600 just for some of the newer listeners who might not know. 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Sure. 17 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Oh yeah. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,080 My name is Benji and I'll go back to kind of the genesis of where I got started. 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,600 I started a Facebook group called Budget Overland. 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:57,120 That was literally January of 2021 and that thing blew up like crazy. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:03,960 About a time we were growing maybe 500 a week to 2,500 a week until we kind of hit our peak 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:10,880 around 55,000 and then I like hit the, hit the hold button, hit the pause button. 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:16,280 You could do that on groups and actually went hidden for a long time there. 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,680 So that spawned Budget Overland podcast. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,020 I had a cohost back in the day. 26 00:01:21,020 --> 00:01:24,480 We started that I think November of 21. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,160 So a few months after I started the Facebook group, got into podcasting. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,360 That's how I got into it. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,200 It's quite fun as you boys know. 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,600 It's it's blast. 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,320 And anyway, I did Budget Overland for a couple of years. 32 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:41,240 Me and my old partner, we kind of split ways as far as the podcast goes. 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:47,680 And then I started a new found Overland this past February and actually April. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,320 I quit BO in February and then I launched new found in April. 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Here we are. 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,880 It's been a wild ride. 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Yeah, see, I'm a little newer. 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,360 I started listening to newfound Overland first. 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,720 And I didn't know at first that you had started that Facebook group. 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,280 I've been a part of that Facebook group since like 2021. 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,780 I had no idea. 42 00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:13,480 Just kind of, I just kind of started looking into overlanding. 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,080 And that's kind of how I started. 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,440 I was just looking at ways to car camp and I broke 99% of the time. 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,600 So that was like my main thing was looking at how to overland on a budget. 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Because some of these guys, it's you know, you get the overland tax everywhere now and 47 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,400 you're just looking for the cheapest ways to get out there and actually still have fun 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,680 and still do the same thing. 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,360 He says he wants to overland on a budget and then he buys an FJ Cruiser. 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,840 Yeah, yeah. 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Yeah, that don't have a lot of people going with you, but I've seen a few built out ones 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,680 around here. 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,680 They're pretty rad. 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,720 They're a space, just like third gen forerunners, man. 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,840 They just, you got to use every inch of them. 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Yeah. 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,840 So, you know, that's funny. 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Alex actually has a third gen forerunner, so he knows. 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,200 And I have a wife and a son that I'm trying to overland with and do this with. 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,400 And that's like my biggest challenge right now is trying to get everything to fit in 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,480 the most optimized as you can, especially with an FJ. 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Right. 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,480 I mean, that's tough. 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Do you have any insight as far as like organization and stuff that you kind of found with your 65 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:26,920 third gen that... 66 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:27,920 Sure. 67 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:34,240 It kind of goes back to just the person, instead of you guys, rooftop tenors, ground dwellers, 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,520 hammock dwellers, what do you guys do as far as your family? 69 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Oh, I'm 100% a ground dweller. 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Yeah, I'm a ground dweller for now. 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,320 And I think eventually we're going to move up to rooftop for ease of use and storage 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,880 of bedding, having that with us at all times. 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Yeah. 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Back when I started out, I got kind of into this overland thing when it was being called 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,200 overlanding back in like 2017, 18. 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,960 No, it was earlier than that. 77 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Maybe it was 16 or 17, somewhere around there. 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Anyhow, at the time I had a different third gen forerunner and I bought one of those cheap 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,920 roller racks and I did that low profile mod and all that fun stuff. 80 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,640 You could buy the extension rack, stick it in there, get some more space. 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,640 But that freed up a lot of that interior room for me. 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Anything that could get dusty or wet, it went on top. 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Over the years, I built a drawer system in the back of my rig. 84 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Simplicity, the whole point of that was just to know where everything was at. 85 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,120 For the longest time, we would take totes or we'd take bags and it's like, well, where's 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,120 the Tylenol? 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Oh my gosh, yeah. 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Strip. 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,800 So you're just going through everything, making a mess. 90 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,560 But now it's like my wife, when she goes, I go a lot solo, but whenever my family goes 91 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,920 with me, she'll be like, hey, where's this? 92 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,320 And I know immediately where it's at. 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,160 And if something's not in that spot, I get pissed. 94 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,160 I get mad. 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,160 What the heck? 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Yeah, see, now Alex can attest to that now. 97 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,800 I've started a working drawer system. 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,760 I'm going to build my own soon, but right now I have a shelf above my fridge and then 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:26,800 I have some really cheap drawers that I bought from Walmart, those clear slide out drawers. 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,800 And I put all my cooking stuff in there. 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,080 And we just went this last weekend and that was the same thing. 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,080 My wife and my son getting into my stuff and where's this? 103 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Where's that? 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,520 And his and his gang, where's this? 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Where's that? 106 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,760 And being able to know where everything's at is half of the battle. 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Yeah. 108 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,000 I cannot wait till I've got my pack out. 109 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,840 I just know where everything's at. 110 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:51,520 It's a process, man. 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,020 It's like you have to learn it every time you go. 112 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:55,020 You could do it. 113 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:57,640 You're driving and this is it. 114 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,640 This is perfect. 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,360 And once you're out there, it's like, Nope, try setting up camp in a storm at 10 o'clock 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,200 or 11 o'clock at night when it's pitch black and you're getting, you know, buckets of rain 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,600 just dumped on you. 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,680 You want to get, you want to get to shelter. 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:17,600 You want to get food and then you want to be done. 120 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,560 I think I'd give up and put my seat back in a sleeping truck. 121 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Yeah. 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,560 See, see what that's exactly. 123 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,560 See? 124 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,560 Yeah. 125 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,320 That's going to be the same thing with me and my son. 126 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,240 You know, you can't, can't delete the seats right now because he's got the car seats still. 127 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,720 He's only 11 months old. 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,560 So we've been, we've been doing that since he was three months old. 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,520 Did you have the F-3 cruiser whenever you, whenever you had your son or was it after 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,520 he was born? 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Cause we had one when my son was still in my wife's belly. 132 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,920 And then soon after, soon after he was born, she's like, I'm not doing this with the suicide 133 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,920 car. 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Yeah, no. 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,920 Yeah. 136 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:02,160 I bought it two years ago and, and we did car camping in it when she was pregnant and 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,000 did, you know, the, the door latch upgrade in there so we could get in and out from the 138 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,260 back. 139 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:11,960 And then once we started, once we had them, I, I honestly did, I thought about going to 140 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:19,480 like a GX or something else for door, like a fifth gen forerunner just because it was 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,440 just such a pain in my butt, but had a lot of friends talk to me and just like, Hey man, 142 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,680 yeah, it's pain, but like you get a lot from keeping it too. 143 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,680 So yeah. 144 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,600 I think part of the, Oh yeah. 145 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,600 Yeah. 146 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,360 I think part of the fun for me is, is just trying to optimize that space as well as I 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,360 can. 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,400 So yeah, I mean, definitely. 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,480 I know Alex was looking into getting a roof rack too for his third gen. 150 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,960 That seems to be a problem with the third gen forerunners is getting that roof rack 151 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:51,960 upgraded. 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Yeah. 153 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,600 The, there's a few out on the market now, but back in the day it was pretty much this 154 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Sherpa and Prince, but now you've got victory four by four. 155 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,640 There's some other small pop-up shops that guys will do out of their house, but I don't 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,640 blame them. 157 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,240 You know, older platforms like that for a newer company to try to get in on aftermarket 158 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,680 support. 159 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 It's kind of a, each then overlanding really. 160 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Oh, for sure. 161 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Yeah. 162 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,360 What's the, what's the biggest issue you've kind of came into with your third gen? 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,680 I mean, overall, I guess I third gens have been like, are like the golden nuggets around 164 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,680 here. 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Like everyone wants one. 166 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Yeah. 167 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,440 Like far as major issues go or anything like that, just kind of keeping up with the miles. 168 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,560 So you know, mine's got 326,000 on the clock right now. 169 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:45,760 And you know, I've done every mechanical thing imaginable other than replacing the engine 170 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,000 transfer case and transmission. 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,400 Everything else has been swapped. 172 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Axles, front rear. 173 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:55,200 You know, bushings all around. 174 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,200 Everything's brand new on it. 175 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,960 You know, valve covers other than like front rear main seals, like everything else has 176 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,960 been slowly up. 177 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,760 Or stuff, you know, that's the beauty of these older vehicles. 178 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,880 They're cheap when you get them, but over time the money, but I know this one's a good one. 179 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,760 I've got a couple parts rigs on, but I need to pull a couple of engines out and freshen 180 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,760 them up. 181 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,640 So whenever this thing's ready to go, I could put one in there. 182 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,960 I plan on keeping this one for a hot minute. 183 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,840 As much money and time as I put into it, I know it's a good one. 184 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,840 I've driven it. 185 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,640 We just did a Colorado trip this year and I always go to Arkansas. 186 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,920 As many chances as I get, I got another trip coming up in November down there. 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,120 You know, so it's good to have a piece of my vision on these older vehicles. 188 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,760 So like rear axle bearings, all that fun stuff that, you know, Toyota's it's a pain in the 189 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:49,560 butt to do, but I've done everything sealed up proper for at least a good another 40, 60 190 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:50,560 thousand miles. 191 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,960 Maybe if I'm lucky wheeling like that kind of wears them out a little bit, but. 192 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,960 Oh yeah. 193 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,960 Yeah. 194 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,360 We just had a Tacoma go out here and, and break the CV out this weekend. 195 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:07,040 So yeah, that's kind of a, along with the axle axles, CVs along with it. 196 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Yeah. 197 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:13,280 I just did my whole rear axle, all the wheel bearings, the seals, everything. 198 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,600 And I've actually got another third gen that's tore apart in my driveway right now. 199 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,200 I'm getting ready to get the same stuff done. 200 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Nice. 201 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,400 It's quite the process, man. 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Yeah. 203 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,480 You mentioned Arkansas is going down there as much as he can. 204 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Is that kind of your favorite state for overlanding, exploring, camping? 205 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,440 It really is. 206 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,600 I could get down to the heart of the Ozarks in about four hours, really depending on where, 207 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 but three to four hours I'm down there. 208 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Missouri kind of sucks for off-road vehicular recreation, even if it can be a service, a 209 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:52,080 forest service road or something, you still have the locals that'll put up a gate and 210 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,080 chain it. 211 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,720 And I've wasted more time backtracking than enjoying, you know, the trail. 212 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,800 I've got the Mark Twain National Forest to the south of me, about 30 miles. 213 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,920 I'll go out there and putt around and that's actually going to be kind of a winter project. 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,920 I say winter project. 215 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,720 I've got so many irons in the fire, but me and my buddy, we need to go. 216 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,520 We'll map some more trail down there because I've got friends that come up from Arkansas 217 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,460 and I've kind of showed them the same thing. 218 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:23,720 As you go further east into the Mark Twain, it kind of gets a little bit better for wheeling 219 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,140 and it opens up for more trail. 220 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:32,480 But down here, I'm near a military installation and they'll do range firing and it's kind 221 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,040 of unique driving next to that when you're hearing these 50 cal rounds just going pop, 222 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,520 pop, pop, pop right next to you. 223 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,520 And you're like, is this legal? 224 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Are we not supposed to be out? 225 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,640 I'm an Army vet. 226 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,080 I spent some time there at Fort Leonardwood. 227 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,560 That place is a little... 228 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:54,960 Did you like it or are you one of those guys that I was like, I can't wait to get out of 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,960 here. 230 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,560 It's not offering me nothing. 231 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:02,040 Lucky for me, it was always training. 232 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,040 I was only there for a few weeks. 233 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,040 Oh, okay. 234 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Yeah, we do kind of understand what you mean though. 235 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,880 We have a camp near us, Grayling. 236 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,240 So it's kind of the same thing. 237 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Wheeling's not bad. 238 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,560 Sometimes they'll have some things locked off when do they have like arms training and 239 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:21,560 stuff. 240 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:28,200 Michigan's not great for off-roading, especially if you go in like onyx, if you want to look 241 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,800 at the rated trails or anything, their trails are... 242 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,560 The ones that are blue are pretty much green as far as difficulty. 243 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,460 They're really not hard. 244 00:12:37,460 --> 00:12:44,160 So the hardest ones we have are Drummond Island, which is still pretty fun. 245 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Since they bulldozed Marblehead, I can't even say Drummond Island is anything hard. 246 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,240 So we're looking to go out of state now. 247 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,040 So it was kind of nice to hear that you like the Ozarks and stuff like that. 248 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,040 It is worth a trip. 249 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,160 If you guys can come down, even if you come down... 250 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,040 For me, it's hard to get away for more than four or five days at a time. 251 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,760 But if you can come down for a good long weekend, three, four days, hoof it down here, kind 252 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:17,360 of trail your way back a little bit to help you on your way home, 100% worth it, man. 253 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,600 It's so gorgeous down there. 254 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:25,880 It's so untapped still from the crap we're living in now with people. 255 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:31,160 You've actually got to go to find the good spots, but they're out there. 256 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:37,320 That's my main thing is I really like the exploratory aspect of overlanding, finding 257 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,080 these spots, mapping them out and saving them for the future. 258 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,600 So I watch a lot of that. 259 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Oh gosh, the Overland channel down there. 260 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Ozark Overland. 261 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Yeah, Ozark Overland. 262 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Gosh, those guys are so cool. 263 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,800 He is... 264 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Yeah, Matt McClellan. 265 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Is that who you're talking about with the Jeep? 266 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,800 He... 267 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Some people love him, some people hate him, but it's like you got to give credit to the 268 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,480 dude. 269 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,480 He's the one that... 270 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,680 He's mapped every trail down there because I've had him on... 271 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,280 I think it was Budget Overland podcast we were talking. 272 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,720 He's like, yeah, I've pretty much mapped everything down there that you can legally map. 273 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,840 That's back when they were just recording off iPhones and the really cheap GoPro 2s 274 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,840 and stuff, but... 275 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Oh yeah. 276 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,200 I used full blown full timer, so hats off to him. 277 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,200 That's cool. 278 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Yeah, absolutely. 279 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,880 Man, I would love to be full time. 280 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,360 Oh yeah, for sure. 281 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Yeah, I think that's my goal. 282 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,760 And if I don't do... 283 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,200 And if it's not full time, I think I'm just going to move west every few years. 284 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,560 I'm just going to move a little bit more west and just move around the country because that 285 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,560 makes it really easy to overland if you're just renting a house right up here in Colorado 286 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:56,760 or something for a couple of years. 287 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,040 So what do you got done to that third gen other than your roof rack and your storage 288 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,040 stuff? 289 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,560 Do you got what kind of lift? 290 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,680 I need to do a vehicle walk around. 291 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,160 I've been saying that for three or four years. 292 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,040 It's a Frankenstein, that's for sure. 293 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,680 I've got some fifth gen 4Runner stuff on here and I've got some 80 series Land Cruiser stuff. 294 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,800 That's primarily the front. 295 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Well the rear springs are the front springs off of an 80 series. 296 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Rear shocks are off of a fifth gen 4Runner that are for a three inch lift for a fifth 297 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,920 gen. 298 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,640 So I've got quite a bit of travel. 299 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:42,000 The front is a three inch, well it's technically it's the Bilstein. 300 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,320 What series is it? 301 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,080 It's the one everybody goes to. 302 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,080 5100s. 303 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Yeah, 5100s. 304 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Yeah. 305 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,760 But I forget the springs that I have on it. 306 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,440 They're a medium size spring. 307 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,040 They're not super stiff but they're not super light. 308 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,920 It's got some good rebound to it. 309 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,080 It's not so up and down like you would think but it's not a brick when you need it. 310 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,960 So that's kind of it for there. 311 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,600 I've got the factory rear locker. 312 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Front lockers I don't really, I'm not a fan of for IFS vehicles. 313 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,360 I think they're just prone to breaking the CV axle. 314 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,520 And if a lot of listeners might not know but like CV axles are intended to break. 315 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,920 That a way you're not doing super major carnage. 316 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,240 So whenever Jeep guys say, oh look at you, you snapped another CV. 317 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,240 I've only maybe two CV axles in the last three years. 318 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,720 It just depends on how you drive it. 319 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,960 I mean a lot of skinny pedal fans out there but I think if you go slow and you can crawl. 320 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,960 That's another thing. 321 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,200 I've reduced my gears to 488s. 322 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,560 That helped out a ton. 323 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,280 A lot of guys when they're going to do regearing, they always do 411s or they just jump to 529s. 324 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,880 It's like 488s are the sweet spot if you stick with them like a two to three inch lift and 325 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,640 you're not going to run anything larger than like a 33 inch tire. 326 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,120 So each platform's a little different. 327 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:17,000 You know the 510E engines, not a powerhouse or nothing, but like a 20R or 22RE, I feel 328 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:23,520 like it's sufficient enough to where I don't complain about it other than when I go up 329 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,880 hills and I'm hitting four grand, five miles an hour if I'm lucky. 330 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,960 But that's it for suspension. 331 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,200 I've got a rear swing out. 332 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:38,880 It was the True North Fabrication single swing out, the full length swing out which was a 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,160 pain in the butt. 334 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,480 So I had a buddy last year, he came up with a design to do a dual swing out. 335 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:50,100 We used the existing True North bumper and everything like that and he just pretty much 336 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,480 welded on the swing out doors. 337 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,180 Front is a ARB. 338 00:17:55,180 --> 00:17:58,400 That was on the vehicle when I purchased it. 339 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,840 The only thing that sucks about ARBs is whenever you're throwing a winch on there, you've got 340 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:09,360 to clock it to fit perfectly where the control box is. 341 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:14,960 So I had to try out twice to clock it to where I could put that control box. 342 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Obviously, it couldn't be underneath the vehicle so I put it between my grill which has worked 343 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,040 fine. 344 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,120 I really want to get a wireless winch control deal but I've yet to do that. 345 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:31,160 Every time I think of that, it's whenever I'm using it. 346 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,160 And that's about it. 347 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,160 Everything else is pretty much stock. 348 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,120 I've got the roof rack, got the rooftop tent, got an awning. 349 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:40,760 Rear is the interior, rear is the drawer system. 350 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,880 I don't have any onboard power but I've got a power inverter behind my seat to where I 351 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,360 could reach back there and flip it on, flip it off. 352 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,160 And then I've got my fridge behind my seat as well. 353 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,000 That's why I was kind of laughing when we were talking earlier about just getting in 354 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,840 the car and sleeping. 355 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:04,600 In the front seat of my rig at least four times straight up. 356 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,560 It was way more comfortable than whatever I was experiencing. 357 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,980 Whenever I went to Colorado, I slept in there one night because I didn't bring enough blankets. 358 00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:15,160 I didn't bring enough hoodies or anything. 359 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,520 I brought my little zero breeze but that was pointless in the mountains at 12,000 feet 360 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,040 and everyone was kind of roasting me a little bit. 361 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 I've been to Colorado this is my fifth year going to Colorado. 362 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,320 I know the temperatures and stuff but it was 100 degrees here in the Midwest and I guess 363 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,960 my dumb brain was just kind of thinking that weather would follow me. 364 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Yeah, I get it. 365 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,840 Yeah, it just kind of carries over. 366 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:45,160 We actually just got to the early 30s degrees here this last weekend. 367 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,160 Oh yeah. 368 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,160 After the... 369 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,960 After the first night, me and my son in the tent were like, all right, we're going to 370 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,960 camp. 371 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,960 All right, let's head to town. 372 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,520 Let's grab a little buddy and take the edge off a little bit. 373 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,840 That got us thinking, okay, are we going to do diesel? 374 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,360 Are we going to run little buddies? 375 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:07,440 I think with the rooftop tent, it's got to be a diesel. 376 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,920 Yeah, man, I don't know. 377 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,960 My diesel heater is freaking awesome. 378 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,240 We go camping, winter camping all the time. 379 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Whenever it's like for us, it doesn't get negative really at all. 380 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,800 We're down in the single digits sometimes with teens and it's crazy to think that whenever 381 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,760 I'm out there camping in that cold weather, I've got the windows open because the diesel 382 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,760 heater is going. 383 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,120 Yeah, that's definitely the plan for next year. 384 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:42,040 I want to be able to do winter camping and I think this winter is going to be a whole 385 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:49,480 lot of paying off all the debt I've accrued from building up my rig this year and then 386 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,280 mid summer, we're going for a rack. 387 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,200 I've been looking at the four by four Colorado tents. 388 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,360 Those are good. 389 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:03,480 Yeah, they look really sturdy, like a long lasting investment. 390 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,120 And then yeah, looking at building out my own diesel heater out of like a Pelican or 391 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:08,120 something. 392 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:14,320 You could buy those H calorie ones off Amazon, change out the fuel lines and you can have 393 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,400 less than 80 bucks in it. 394 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Yeah, for sure. 395 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Even once you want to go to your Pelican style, because that's what I did initially. 396 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,760 I bought a VVOR and then built mine out of a box. 397 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,320 That was before all the other stuff kind of came to the market. 398 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,240 But every once in a while you can catch those sales off those H calorie. 399 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,400 They're really inexpensive, but man, that'd be worth it for sure. 400 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,400 Especially right now. 401 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,120 I know it sucks spending a bunch of money. 402 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:47,520 Yeah, no, that's really good advice. 403 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,640 I appreciate that. 404 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,200 It's going to be something that I was thinking maybe next winter. 405 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,240 But honestly, a lot of people are kind of pointing towards that same way too. 406 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,040 So I might have to start it up this winter and get something going. 407 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,040 Yeah. 408 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:08,400 But yeah, I was kind of hoping as well to talk to you a little bit about this Midwest 409 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,840 Adventure Outfitters thing you got going on. 410 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,720 You're getting ready to open up too. 411 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Yeah, man, I'm stoked. 412 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:22,040 I know a whole lot as it's still not done, but I'm putting together an event. 413 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,120 I've kind of, that's where I'm at right now. 414 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:28,960 I'm on my way to shoot a little commercial for this event I'm going to do. 415 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,600 So I'm going to have a house November 23rd that's at the warehouse. 416 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,160 That's at my shop from 11 to two. 417 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,360 Try to make it fun. 418 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:42,560 Some drink like some free sodas and walking tacos and stuff like that. 419 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,640 Maybe people could show off their rigs, kind of like a rigs and coffee and just to hang 420 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280 out for a couple hours there. 421 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,360 And then following there, I'm having an event. 422 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,360 I'll have bands. 423 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,160 We're going to do like a ginormous potluck dinner. 424 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,760 I got a guy smoking a bunch of turkeys for us and then everybody else has to bring a 425 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,720 side on the river. 426 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,520 We've got shower houses, so it's going to be nice. 427 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,660 So a lot of irons on the fire, but going back to the store, it's going to be an outfitter 428 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:15,640 shop slash you can come in and buy stuff as well. 429 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,640 And it's going to be e-commerce. 430 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,000 I'm going to have a website where you can buy stuff on there as well. 431 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,480 But I'm doing this in phases. 432 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,480 I'm not some rich multimillionaire. 433 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,480 I'm taking a chance. 434 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,760 I sold off a company or a little business I had. 435 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,440 So I'm taking some of that money, throw it into this. 436 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,480 And then phase two will be growing, like building onto my building. 437 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:43,000 And I plan to do some more Toyota specific in depth mechanic. 438 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:49,160 So like hire a tech or two, those guys could do water pumps, timing belts, whatever, you 439 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,080 know, engine swaps, axle, solid axle swaps, whatever they want to do more of a fab slash 440 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,960 mechanic shop on top of an outfit or shop. 441 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,960 So for me right now, as far as the outfit or shop, I just want to do bolts on stuff. 442 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,800 So if you want a rack, you don't have time or don't know how I'll throw the rack on there. 443 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,520 You order a tent, you don't know how to put it on there. 444 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,520 I'll throw it on there. 445 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,520 You know, stuff like that. 446 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,640 That's awesome. 447 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,560 I want it to be like a one-stop shop, but I've got to slowly grow into it. 448 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,400 You know, I don't want to go too big too fast. 449 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,320 I don't know how it's going to do. 450 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:26,500 But then again, you'd want to go to, you know, too cheap also got one shot to impress whoever 451 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:27,900 showing up. 452 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:33,120 I've got people coming from South Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas. 453 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:36,360 I got everybody coming to this open house. 454 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,320 So I don't want to disappoint them and I'm going to put them up. 455 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Well, technically you got to pay for a ticket to come down here. 456 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 It'd be like 65 bucks per rig. 457 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,100 Plus you get a t-shirt and stickers. 458 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:51,840 That includes camping, live music, the food, the whole nine yards. 459 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,120 So that's what I'm trying to do. 460 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:55,120 Trying to do this. 461 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,320 Four weeks, a little over four weeks of crap done, man. 462 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,320 It's crazy. 463 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Yeah. 464 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,720 No, I mean, that sounds like a good deal. 465 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:07,080 I mean, I mean, I know we're really excited about it being Toyota guys ourselves, but 466 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:16,280 just having another well-known source like you to have like an outfitter store. 467 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,080 We've listened to you for a while. 468 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,000 You're one of the people that we trust. 469 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000 And so having someone that we already have listened to for a while that we know that 470 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:31,600 we can trust is kind of half the battle with finding Overland gear right now. 471 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,200 That's because that's kind of the scariest thing is you're going off of some people 472 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,880 you never met. 473 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,160 You're trusting them on their word on something. 474 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,200 And sometimes it can kind of bite you in the butt. 475 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,960 Especially third gens, man. 476 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,960 All we've got are forums. 477 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,280 There's not really any shops that know exactly what to do for a third gen. 478 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,880 There's not a lot down here either. 479 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Like the old first gen pickups, old first gen forerunners. 480 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,640 No one knows how to work on those. 481 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,240 I've got a mentor buddy of mine. 482 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,840 He's pushing 80 and we were doing motor swaps six, seven years ago together. 483 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,400 And he's taught me a lot of the old school mechanic tricks, Toyota stuff. 484 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,560 That wealth of knowledge he shared with me. 485 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,960 I don't really like messing with 20 Rs and 22 Rs and all that stuff or REs. 486 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,840 They're just, they're kind of dogs, but there's some people out there that just love them. 487 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,520 I don't even know what the max horsepower is like 120, maybe 116. 488 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,280 I'll give you that. 489 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,800 But with all these older vehicles like the third gen platform and stuff like that, they 490 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,920 got great drive trains in them that people are pulling out and swapping. 491 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:40,440 They got a better turnkey response versus trying to, if you went the Weber route or 492 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,880 electric choke or what have you, you know, he takes the guesswork out of it. 493 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,880 But that's, that's just up to the person in their budget. 494 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,480 But going back to what you're saying, I am being very open, open about this and transparent 495 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,480 about it. 496 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,440 Like if someone comes to the shop and they just hand me their credit card and they want 497 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,400 me to build it out, I'll probably refuse to do that. 498 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Cause that's just, that's not good business ship. 499 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,560 And then it's also horrible for that person to just come in there and start buying things 500 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560 they think they need. 501 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,840 And you guys know it's like overlanding, even in the last five years has spurred off into 502 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,960 so many different things. 503 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,680 You've got hunters, fishermen, you've got people going to events like biking and stuff 504 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,920 that they, they, they live like an overlander because it's less, you know, expensive to 505 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,120 getting a hotel and all that stuff. 506 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,400 But then your needs and wants and all that stuff shift as well. 507 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,120 So my needs and wants might be different than yours and your guys might be different than 508 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,120 each other's. 509 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:36,120 You never know. 510 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,120 Yeah. 511 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:42,960 That's a big difference between Alex and I is Alex likes to set up camp and, and for, 512 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,160 you know, for three days and then wheel the area like a base camp set up. 513 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,440 And then I, I personally like to almost expedition style. 514 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,560 I'll set up one day at one spot and then I'll, you know, travel the trails until I get to 515 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:04,320 the next spot set up there, move on and try to, and try to map the trails, try to see 516 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,700 all that I can see in the time that I'm there. 517 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:12,960 So there's just so many different, you know, different ways that you could set your vehicle 518 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,940 up and it's going to be very different from Alex to it is to me, to this to you. 519 00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:22,180 And I think that's a really important and I love that you said that you'd probably just 520 00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:23,320 refuse them honestly. 521 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Cause I was right there with you when you said that because it's so hard and you don't 522 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,400 know what you need until you're actually out there doing it in the first place. 523 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,800 And then you start realizing like, Hey, you know, maybe, you know, maybe I don't want 524 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,000 to sit in the rain in my tent. 525 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Maybe I want an awning. 526 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Okay. 527 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 What side do I want it on? 528 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480 So that's, that's probably one of my biggest advice. 529 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,200 And I think a lot of people's biggest advice is actually just get out there and do it first 530 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,200 then figure it out. 531 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,140 Cause I mean, you could look at everything on paper. 532 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:55,140 You could say, I have cool. 533 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:56,140 I want an awning. 534 00:28:56,140 --> 00:28:57,140 Yeah. 535 00:28:57,140 --> 00:28:58,140 What side do you want it on? 536 00:28:58,140 --> 00:28:59,140 Do you want it on the back? 537 00:28:59,140 --> 00:29:00,140 Do you want on the front? 538 00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:01,140 How big do you want it? 539 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,000 You don't really know that until you're out there doing it. 540 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,840 You get a better idea of what your end game setup is. 541 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:15,120 And it's cool to see all the cool, it's not necessarily tech even it's just product that 542 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:22,080 has helped, I guess helps people pick and choose more. 543 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:29,760 What falls in there under their category of comfort, you know, cause you get the old school 544 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,840 guys, they're like, I've been doing this since the seventies because they didn't have these 545 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,680 cool luxury things when you're now they did some, I'm not taking any credit away from 546 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,280 these old boys or anything like that. 547 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,280 It ain't the same. 548 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,880 That's why you've got these people coming out and pros because of all the cool tech 549 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320 that makes it easier for mom to go with the boys. 550 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:56,840 So it's just kind of, yeah, that's, that's my biggest thing is my wife and son, if I'm 551 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,200 going, they're going with me and they like being out just as much as I do. 552 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:08,360 So, so making sure my wife has a good time while she's out there is, you know, is number 553 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,360 one. 554 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,920 So making sure she's comfortable, she's got good food, you know, is, is kind of my, my 555 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:21,600 number one, because if she doesn't like going, then you're like, oh man, you know, you got 556 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,600 to find something else. 557 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,040 So, so, you know, it's my son, he, he just stares at trees all day. 558 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,040 He loves it. 559 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,480 He doesn't, he doesn't care where we're at, what we're doing. 560 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,480 He loves the trails. 561 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,720 Alex going to test to that. 562 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,400 So it's, oh yeah, he's, he's great. 563 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,600 He's awesome for it. 564 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,360 But you know, my wife loves it, but you know, it's a, making sure that she's as comfortable 565 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,360 as she could be. 566 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,800 And of course I'm, I'm one of the types that I like to have good food and stuff while I'm 567 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,920 out there, you know, good steak, some good steak and eggs or something. 568 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Yeah. 569 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,200 So I like to have a good, good little cooking setup and all that. 570 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,160 Um, are you running, uh, are you still running the clam shell? 571 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Um, yeah. 572 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,640 Yeah. 573 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840 It's the, um, what is it? 574 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,320 The base camp ever. 575 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Yeah. 576 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:15,720 I picked that last year or yeah, it was last winter, last spring, a buddy was telling me 577 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,600 about this 50% off coupon he found and I'm, that's crazy. 578 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,240 So I bought it. 579 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,240 Those are ridiculously expensive anyway. 580 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,240 Absolutely. 581 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,080 I've had the Coleman two burner. 582 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Those are fine. 583 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,600 Um, then I went to a 17 inch black stone, which that was fine. 584 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,480 It's just bulky. 585 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,640 And then this little guy, man, he just fits right in my little drawer. 586 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560 It's like out of sight, out of mind. 587 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,560 It's perfect. 588 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,320 I think that might be my, uh, that might be my end game just for storage and space, keeping 589 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,320 that in mind. 590 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,080 You know, once I get my drawer systems finally figured out having a small cook area like 591 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,240 that, but still being able to cook with two pans. 592 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,880 So being able to cook full meals or make soup and stuff like that. 593 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,880 That's going to be really nice. 594 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,680 I, um, I think I noticed that when I was watching, I want to say it was one of your YouTube 595 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,680 videos. 596 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Yeah. 597 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,880 Hey, speaking of YouTube videos, I'm working on one right now and I usually get really 598 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,040 impatient when I do YouTube videos, but this one's going to be pretty legit. 599 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,840 And I'm saying that because it's not done yet. 600 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920 The first three minutes for me, at least are like, all right, this is pretty rad. 601 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,360 I could watch this, but you know, everyone's flavors different. 602 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,360 So, oh, for sure. 603 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,440 Yeah, no, we're super excited. 604 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Like I said, we keep up with you all around. 605 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,560 I think pretty sure that, uh, pretty sure I just rewatched all of your stuff again, 606 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,560 just to make sure. 607 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:48,540 I think, uh, I was reading up or, or now I was listening to the Colorado trip with independence 608 00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:52,080 because they're one of the other FJ, uh, overlanders. 609 00:32:52,080 --> 00:33:00,760 Dude, like him, there's the, uh, there's Joey from professor bats and friends down in Arkansas. 610 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,400 I had a buddy of mine who had a fully built out FJ cruiser. 611 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,440 They're out there, but I mean, I'm talking, I'm talking rigs that have everything you 612 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,680 could think of. 613 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Those three rigs come to mind. 614 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Frickin Tyler's rigs insane. 615 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,600 Yeah, no, they're, those are inspiration rigs for sure. 616 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,360 Um, but yeah, man, I, uh, really, uh, really glad that you could join us here. 617 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,240 I know that you're kind of a, like you said earlier, you got a lot of irons at the fire. 618 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,120 You got stuff to do and I appreciate you coming in and talking to us. 619 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Um, I think, uh, I think we learned a little bit. 620 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080 I really like to do this again sometime. 621 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,880 Um, we need to do, we need to do a live stream. 622 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,880 You guys do live streams? 623 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,880 Yeah. 624 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,520 Yeah, but we're working on it. 625 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,240 Yeah, we're going to, well, maybe I could have you guys on mine one day. 626 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Yeah. 627 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,720 That'd be really nice. 628 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,520 You know, off road Brian, I've talked about him sometimes on the show. 629 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,680 Um, he is the one meeting me out here because he does all my drone stuff. 630 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,920 He's got that a seven permit or whatever the heck it is. 631 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,720 So I just moved off whenever I need to have done. 632 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,200 Whenever it comes down to drones and stuff, I'm just too impatient to fly. 633 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,040 I think they're cool as heck, but I don't want to, um, risk it myself. 634 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,080 So he's got to, we're not in a rush right now. 635 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,000 He's actually on his way, but, uh, I've, I've appreciated talking to you guys. 636 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 I'm glad it worked out. 637 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,920 But like you said, with all the irons in the fire boys, I don't even know I'm having dinner 638 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,920 tonight. 639 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Crazy. 640 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,960 Yeah, neither do we, but that's not because we don't have irons in the fire. 641 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,320 They were just broke all the time. 642 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,680 But Hey man, I really appreciate you having on here. 643 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Thank you, Benji. 644 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,880 Um, anybody wants to check out his stuff? 645 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,920 Uh, newfound Overland on YouTube, Instagram. 646 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,960 Um, he's got the new podcast that he's got up there. 647 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,760 He's got a lot of really good episodes already. 648 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,120 So and I'll, uh, I'll link him in the show notes too. 649 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,120 So he'd be able to get to all this stuff from there. 650 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,120 Yeah. 651 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,120 Well, thank you very much. 652 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Yeah, guys. 653 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Appreciate it. 654 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,120 It was fun. 655 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,120 Yeah. 656 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:13,280 Yeah.