Hey, hey, hey, look at this guy. You see this
guy's shirt? This guy's shirt? Look at him. Yeah.
What's your name, sir? What's your name? Yeah.
Oh, no, you don't mind. I'm just going to use
you to further my career because I don't have
any creativity of my own. What's your name? Welcome
to the show, people. Welcome to the show. Eat
my shorts. So here is to conversation. Tranquility
Base here. The Eagle has landed. Welcome to the
Cash Exchange. What's up? How have you been?
Been pretty good. What about you? I am good.
I've been real annoyed with my apartment today
because I found out that they're increasing spaces
in my apartment that I don't have signal on my
phone. Also, my Wi -Fi was out for some reason
this morning. So I've been having a real annoying
battle with technology today. Other than that,
though, it's been great. Yeah. Thankfully, hopefully,
things are all settled now. Yeah. Sounds like
lots of fun. It's not, uh, not great. You know,
I was thinking about that, the trip I had and
all the problems I had at O 'Hare. And I think
the farther away from them I am, the funnier
it is. So like in the last episode, I told you
about how I got there at God awful time. And
as soon as I walked in, there was a six hour
delay. Four hour delay, something like that.
Well, what I ended up doing at the end was I
got a flight. I had the original flight on American
and got switched over to Southwest. Originally,
I didn't think that Southwest left from O 'Hare
because like there's a regional airport. It's
like Dallas. There's the international airport
and then there's a regional airport. So I saw
that. There were flights from Southwest leaving
out of the regional airport, but apparently they
also fly out of O 'Hare. And so I was in the
main part where American Airlines is, and I talked
to my people. They got me a flight on Southwest,
and they were like, you just have to make sure
you get there in like 45 minutes or something
like that. I was like, okay, well, if it's on
the grounds, that's no problem. So I follow all
the signs to get to Terminal 5, which is where
the Southwest is. O 'Hare goes Terminals 1 through
5. So obviously this was kind of one of the last
ones to make the cut. And so I keep following
all these signs. Hey, Terminal 5, up ahead. Terminal
5, up ahead. Terminal 5, up ahead. I get to one
door and it says... Terminal 5 up ahead, but
then just below that is a sign that says, once
you leave these doors, you cannot turn back.
Is that a threat? What? What? Okay. I mean, I'm
looking at my map on my phone. I'm looking at
the signs. Everything says Terminal 5 straight
ahead. So I go back through, start following
signs for Terminal 5. At this point, I could
just walk outside and be on the street. So I
am out of the airport at this point. following
the signs, and it tells me that I have to take
the tram to go from where I am to Terminal 5.
It's off in Narnia, not connected to the real
thing. I had to take the tram there. I had bought
a Coke and two bottles of water, like two liters
of water. I'm on the tram. I realize that I have
what amounts to like $20 worth of liquids in
my backpack. And realize that I am going to have
to go through security again. So I'm sitting
on this tram. Did you start chugging? Trying
to down, because I'm not going to waste it, trying
to down two liters of water and a 20 -ounce Coke
all before I get there. And so I get off the
tram, halfway done with my drinks, and then walk
up. And it literally, like, you walk up to security
right after you get off the tram. And so I'm
just standing there trying to chug this stuff
down, get it all. In my body so that I can go
to go through the security stuff, get it done,
go in, turn the corner. Line is like 75 people
deep. So I'm full of all these liquids. I have
a good probably, I don't know, 30, 45 minutes
before I can get through security and find a
bathroom. And I'm just I'm just stuck there.
And I waited and waited. And waited about halfway
through. Bladder was about to explode. But I
waited. I waited. I finally get up to the thing.
They scan my ID and he looks at it weird and
says, which flight are you here for? It's like,
I don't know. I don't know what flight number
it is. The one for Southwest. I don't know. Because
I had two tickets. So I'm sure I sent up all
kinds of red flags. But I'm sure this is something
that they deal with. Probably a lot. Especially
at O 'Hare, yeah. That's got to be pretty common.
Anyways, he let me go through without too much
incident. I get through. I race to a bathroom.
And the first thing I notice about this terminal
is it's just one pathway. There's no branching
off. There's no way to get lost. You're either
on one end or you're on the other. And as you're
walking through, you've seen you've seen Raiders
of the Lost Ark, right? Indiana Jones. Yeah.
You know, those scenes where he's like racing
through the markets trying to escape the bad
guys, chase after the bad guys, whatever it is.
And there's just like just people just have their
shit all out in the walkway and like begging
you to come in, like buy something from me. That
was the vibe of this airport, of this terminal.
And this is the terminal that has Southwest,
Frontier. I don't think they have Spirit. But
I think the biggest one there is Delta, which
of the big ones, that's the small one. Sure.
And so this is where they shove all the ugly
redheaded stepchildren is into Terminal 5. And
you just get a very weird. aura when you walk
through this terminal and just you feel like
you're going to turn the corner and there's going
to be like a a cobra in a basket and a snake
charmer there with a little you know and then
not just news has wares if you have coin yeah
you can buy a monkey paw if you go to the back
but then the Everything about this terminal just
seemed like an afterthought because I'll post
the pictures on Instagram when this episode goes
live, but they don't have central air conditioning.
What? Yeah. Which, I mean, if I hadn't been in
the main one, I might have thought like, hey,
maybe this is just like a Midwest thing and North
thing that they just don't have the built -in
infrastructure for air conditioning. What they
had instead was they had these rooms next to
where everyone's seated. And it's like just a
rhombus -shaped room with these giant ports sticking
out of them. And that's where the air conditioning
is. Okay. Instead of vents in the floor, instead
of vents in the ceiling, there's just these...
Big -ass rooms, like every, I don't know, 100
feet, just pumping out air conditioning from
these units that are just sitting there. And
I... Why? Why do you treat the people like this,
especially people that are about to get on a
Frontier flight or a Southwest flight? They're
setting you up. They're setting our expectations
exactly where they're supposed to be. Rock bottom.
You don't fly Frontier or Spirit or Delta because
you care about your experience. If the plane
will get me from here to Denver in one piece,
more or less, then I'm fine. I had such a...
Just the day was total ass. I was offered to
upgrade my ticket for twenty five dollars so
I could get like priority seating. And I couldn't
tell you the last time I flew on Southwest. It
was probably three, four years ago. So I got
it and it was like, OK, well, you're guaranteed
number one through 15. Just wait until we give
you a number. And my number ended up being five.
Like, great. Fifth. So I'll definitely be able
to pick my seat because that's still going on
until the end of the year. And everything's going
to be peachy keen. But what I forgot about is
what a pain in the ass the numbering system is,
because you either have people that are like,
yeah, I'm whatever. I'm seven. I'm 12. I'm 15.
And they call like the first 15. And you're going
to have people that are either going to shove
their phone in your face, say, no, this I need
to be here because this is my spot. See, I'm
three. What are you? What are you? Let me see
your phone. Let me see it. What are you? Or you
have people that are like two and then they don't
want to mess with it. So they're just they're
just going and getting behind like 15 or whatever.
That's a stupid system. I don't like it. I think
they should make everyone like hold a placard.
Like you go up to the desk and then you get your
little you get your little placard with your
number on it. That way there's no confusion.
And it's a very elementary way. to handle adults
getting on an airplane anyways. Just get your
number in line and stick to it and just use the
honor system. Isn't someone shoving their phone
in your face the same thing as them just holding
a physical sign? But if everyone has a placard
and the placards are on full display, then no
one has any issues because they're just there.
It's there for you. You think no one's going
to have any issues? I don't know. I don't know.
I got on the plane and then I picked... the seat
that didn't have anything in front of it. So
I got to stretch out and it was nice. Uh, except
I didn't get anywhere to put my backpack except
two rows ahead of me. So that's a first world
problem that I was glad to have. I had a little
pullout tray and, uh, yeah. What was your in
-flight entertainment? Uh, I did some work on
our episode list. I cleaned it up a little bit
and then I watched. I downloaded the first season
of Ted, and I watched part of it on the way there,
but I don't think I watched it on the way back.
Is there more than one season of Ted? No. The
next one is coming out in February, I think.
I feel like I watched something. I don't remember
what it was, though. I did watch that Foggy Mountain
movie with the Please Don't Destroy guys. It
was pretty good. It was very pop star -ish. So
still pretty much the same. Same genre. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of bringing up things from
previous episodes, how many phone outlets did
you find? How many phone jacks? I forgot to look
if we're being for realsies. Although I will
say that our mom, who does listen to our podcast,
our biggest fan since day one, did text me a
picture as she was listening to the episode of
what the phone jack looks like. Mm hmm. So I
do know what they look like. I don't see the
difference in that and an Ethernet cable. I understand
there is one, but I also am pretty sure they
come on the same little outlet thing. They can.
Ethernets are bigger, though. Yeah. Well, I don't
know if my apartment has one. So I will still
have to report back on that at a later episode.
Spoiler alert. It doesn't. It doesn't have one.
Also circling back on a previous episode, have
you seen the Matt Rife ads with Elf Cosmetics?
Uh -huh. I did. How do you feel about him? I
don't like Matt Reif. I don't either. I don't
think he's funny. I don't either. He gives a
young gravy but wrong vibe. Crowd work is not
stand -up. Like, if all of your comedy is due
to the people in your audience, that's no bueno.
You're a professional mean girl. Yeah. Hey, hey,
hey, look at this guy. You see this guy's shirt?
This guy's shirt? Look at him. Yeah. What's your
name, sir? What's your name? Yeah. Oh, no, you
don't mind. I'm just going to use you to further
my career because I don't have any creativity
of my own. What's your name? That's the vibe
I get from Matt Rife. For sure. It's either that
or he just plays on the demographic that he's
gotten a lot, which is middle -aged women. Yeah.
I don't know if he's still popular in the...
cougar community but he had a big following there
for a while lots of women we are boycotting elf
cosmetics now because they used a comedian that
makes light of dv yeah which okay but like stop
saying you're gonna boycott stuff stop taking
the time out of your i'm sure very busy life
to sit down and make these videos demanding that
other people are going to do something that you're
not going to do. Stop it. Yeah, that's... Got
any other things to throw in before we go into
our three things for today? Any other housekeeping?
I don't believe so. All right. Your three things
for today are pageants, ghosts, and prisons.
Pageants, ghosts, and prisons? Yes. Places dead
-eyed people are. That's a good one. Not what
I have, but yes. I don't know. I feel like they're
interconnected enough that once I hear it, I'm
going to be irritated that I didn't guess it.
Sure. But pageants, ghosts, and prison. Do you
want to hear the fourth thing that I originally
had in place of prisons on this list? Okay. Furries.
I took it off both because drawing that for the
weekly Instagram post is going to be a little
too difficult to track the wrong crowd. And it's
already been used before in our episodes, I believe.
I don't remember which one, but one in our backlog.
Places people's decisions have led them to be
in. Furries and ghosts aren't places. It's a
state of being. You make a bad decision. You
end up in prison. You don't fulfill. You have
unfinished business when you die. You go to the
ghost realm. You grow up without a father. You
end up in furry land. Your parents decide that
they miss the boat on fame and fortune, so they
shove you into the pageant circuit. I mean, it
does fit. But no, I don't know. I accept your
premise. Well, I appreciate that. I think you
might be getting a little bit too in the weeds
on this one because the connection here is that
each is a theme in our topic for today, reality
TV. There are several shows for each of those
categories. There is only one for furries, but
that is still one too many in my personal opinion.
What is the furries one? Where did I go wrong?
The furries one. From the parents' perspective?
So, technically, there's a couple of tie -ins
with furries and reality TV. The one specifically
that I was looking at was a dating show on Netflix
back in 2014 called Wild Sexy Beast. It's a dating
show like Love is Blind because you don't really
know what the person looks like. But you're dating
them Masked Singer style. Rings a bell. Furry
costumes. Gross. Yeah. Yeah. The other one is
it plays in a couple of My Strange Addiction
episodes, which is a whole different beast. Do
you watch reality? Reality TV. Not reality. Do
I watch reality TV? One of the furthest things
from. Yeah. What's the definition of reality
TV? Is it like a... Do game shows count? I was
trying to narrow it down whenever I was doing
research for this episode, so I didn't include
them, but I would consider game shows to be reality
TV. Okay, but like sustained plot game shows,
right? Like Big Brother? That's reality TV? I
would think, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I watched Big
Brother for a little while. Never really got
into Survivor. Can't Stand the Kardashians. Was
into Duck Dynasty for a while. I'm sure I watched
The Osbournes. What about Jackass? Is that reality
TV? I guess I would consider Jackass to be reality
TV. Okay. Yeah. And then like Viva La Bam. Ever
watch like Road Rules or what is it? Simple Life?
The one with Nicole Richie and Chris Hilton.
No, never watched it. But yeah, that is Simple
Life. Road Rules. What's the one Theo Vaughn
was on? Real World. I think it was Road Rules.
Was that like people living in a house and just
being observed? It was like Big Brother, but
there was a no holds barred thing on the cameras
from what I understand. I don't know how that's
different from Big Brother because I didn't ever
really watch that one, but I've heard it's pretty
similar. They did win a Guinness. Real World
won a Guinness record for the longest -running
reality TV show back in 2003, which has since
been super eclipsed. I think even at that point,
it was technically eclipsed by one of the ones
that's in my top five that I was going to get
into in just a little bit. Yeah. Number four,
I want to say it's like 17th? I don't usually
like the ones where it's their day -to -day.
And, oh, how did they get in this situation?
That's crazy. This is just their everyday life.
It's not. It's not their everyday life. All these
situations are scripted. Yeah. What made you
get into Duck Fantasy? The culture, the beards,
the. I'll accept that. I went through a phase
where I was really into like bow hunting and
going to like the. the skeet shooting range.
And, uh, yeah, I mean, it just, uh, I don't know.
I think it came around at the right time and
then puttered out. And then now I think there's
a resurgence of it. Is there? Yeah. I think that
they, uh, think there's a new season either out
or coming out. Oh, weird. Yeah. That's not come
up in my research. Yeah. I might not be on the
right side of. Plus, I think that the company
and the family just had a real interesting story.
So I think that was a big factor for why I watched
it. What about you? What shows have you been
into? My favorite kind of reality shows are the
ones that are based around a specific hobby or
a specific fixation, I guess. So my favorite
ones are like Extreme Couponers, Extreme Cheapskates,
My Strange Addiction, like the TLC kind of. No,
do not like that show. I've not watched it, but
don't want to. I don't like the ones that feel
like they're preying on the people that they're
covering. People with an issue? Yes. Like if
it's done for informative purposes and it's just
like representation. of an issue. Like, like
with Love on the Spectrum. Love on the Spectrum
feels like it's really respectful of all of these
people's, like, their autism and Asperger's and
all of the, like, different conditions and things.
It doesn't feel exploitative, but a lot of the
TLC stuff does. A lot of the, like, my 600 -pound
life and orders, all of that kind of stuff is
just, it's gross. To some extent, also my strange
addiction, because there's people who eat couches
and soap and all kinds of things that are very
much a cry for help. But I'm not also a big fan
of those episodes. I'm more into the guy who's
in love with his car or his pool floaties. Or
the girl who has bought 3 ,000 pairs of shoes.
Or his real -life dolls and treats them like
people. Has birthday parties for me. I'm not
here for a Lars and the real girl situation.
No. I don't think so. Are we still planning on
Love on Spectrum having its own episode? I think
it could get its own episode. Yeah. I think we
should maybe bring in the other two for that
one. We're bringing in the ringers. I think that's...
I am going to have a very hard time with that
episode. I have been rewatching The Office. I
started, I always, when I rewatch it, I always
start with like halfway through season two because
season one is, it just hurts me. Sure, that's
true with most shows. And so I don't deal well
with people in situations that I wouldn't want
to be in, like real awkward situations. And I
feel like that is 110 % of that show is, I mean,
I haven't, I haven't sat down and like actually
fully watched it, but it seems like that is a
big theme of the show is like, we're going to
put them in these situations that make them uncomfortable
because it makes good TV. And we're just going
to see what happens. I think as far as that goes,
they're not really, I mean, they are uncomfortable,
but they're, from what I understand, they sought
out this show because they wanted to find love.
And so it wasn't a matter of like, let's just
track down people with these specific kind of
mental conditions and use them for dating show
fodder. Like when Abby? Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead. No, and Abby is singing that song that
she wrote to whatever his name is. David? Yes,
David. Yeah. No, I can't do it. Emily will try
to show it to me on TikTok. I'm like, nah, I'm
good. I think so. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I
do think that most of those love songs that I
wrote for my partner are supposed to be cringy
to anyone not in that relationship. Yeah. Like
if I wrote a love song to Nate and played it
in front of like you and Emily, it would make
you a little uncomfortable. Can you break us
off any? I can't, but maybe in a follow -up episode.
Yeah. I don't have a note to my Chardonnay kind
of line for him, unfortunately. All right. We'll
be expecting it. Yeah. Beyond pins and needles.
I'll get to working on it. All right. Do you
have a least favorite type of reality TV? I mean,
it's like sounds cliche, but like the Keeping
Up with the Kardashians type. Yeah. Like the
people that have these situations that they have
put themselves in or that have been orchestrated
for them. That they're like, how are we going
to get through this? And then by the end of the
episode is like, OK, well, that's solved. Next
thing, because that's that's not real. That's
not how life works. Sure. And then, of course,
all that stuff is used as a means to push everything
else. That's that's. Going on with them like
they're they're using that to sell something
and then all the social media stuff and then
all the stuff you hear about from like auxiliary
places like TMZ and and all this other garbage.
And I just I don't like the I think I would say
that my least favorite genre of reality TV show
is just the one that is about influencers influencing.
Like the D 'Amelio show that they came out with
back in, I think it was COVID times. Because
that was when they were hitting their stride.
The show with the Paul brothers. I forgot there
was a show with them. The girl with what I think
is fake Tourette's. I don't know that one. Yeah.
She was on TikTok. I watched her for a little
bit, but it wears thin real quick. Yeah. And
then all the copycats of just the most outrageous,
outrageous stuff that you want to say and claim
it's Tourette's. TikTok reality is reality shows
or reality snippets, whatever you want to call
it, are are just as egregious as Keeping Up with
the Kardashians. For sure. And these fake personas
and these these fake. that they have created
for themselves in order to get the views. All
right, uninstall TikTok again and all of my social
medias and stuff because I was spending too much
of my free time on them. I need notification
about this stuff. Making me anxious. I only deleted
it like two days ago, so this is your notification
right now. When's the last time I sent you something?
Let me check. I unfortunately have given up my
viewing habits of chit for the greater good.
All of the Hamilton recreations, which I do really
love. You sent me, or last episode we talked
about Ashby and her Lorax stuff. Now it's all
I see. I watched one video and now it's just
her as the Lorax everywhere. So thanks for that.
I don't think that is my fault. I think she has
just gotten really big really fast. I think she's
on a lot of people's TikToks. Yeah, probably.
She's talking about how she works at a PR firm
and most people that she works with don't know
about her secret life as the Lorax or as Alexander
Hamilton. It's not even Alexander Hamilton. Every
one of the people who does that challenge is
Lin -Manuel Miranda. Yeah. Because they always
have like the goatee and stuff. Just so funny
to me. I mean, I think it's an easy one to pull
off. It's the dark ponytail and it's the goatee.
And boom, you're Hamilton. Yeah. I will be missing
TikTok for sure. We'll see how long it lasts.
Oh, for sure. I mean, it won't last forever,
but it is a nice little vacation for my brain.
Are you still swapping phones? Yeah. I go back
and forth every once in a while so that I can
like... force myself to have a little bit more
time away from the technology. Unfortunately,
the downside to the other phone is that it has
even less signal and really bad battery life.
So if I'm trying to be on a phone call, I have
to switch it back to my smartphone. It's a give
and take for sure. Well, if only you had that
self -control just built in, you wouldn't need
two phones. That's an absolute fact. You are
correct. It's a work in progress to build it
because it didn't come pre -installed. We all
have our demons. It's fine. And my demon is Ashby's
Lorax. I don't like the very... I know every
reality show is scripted to a pretty serious
extent, but I don't like the ones that feel...
Like they're actually just dramas painting themselves
as reality when they have not a shred of connection
to actual reality. So in the same way as like
Keeping Up with the Kardashians, I can't do Real
Housewives of anything. I couldn't really do
Below Deck. I wanted to like that show a lot
more than I actually did, but I couldn't really
get behind it. It felt just so, so scripted.
Yeah. No, I think we should have brought Emily
in on this one. She would be the contrarian.
She watches Below Deck. She watches Keeping Up
with the Kardashians. Love on the Spectrum. Love
is Blind. I don't think she, she doesn't watch
The Bachelor or Bachelorette. Oh, what's that
one? With the green card chasers. 90 Day Fiancé.
90 Day Fiancé? Yeah. Yeah, she watches that one
too. Yeah, no, she definitely should have been
a part of this episode. I mean, maybe we can
do a little addendum in one of our future episodes.
Yeah. She can defend the concept of reality TV.
We'll do a VS. Does Nate like reality shows?
No. Oh, okay. One of the very specific types
of reality shows that I also have a little bit
later on, which is body cams. He's a big fan
of cops kind of shows. Which is understandable,
but I can't do it. Did you know that a lot of
the earlier cops episodes were filmed in Dallas?
I didn't know that. Yeah, that's where most of
it came from, was from Dallas. And the first
48, the one about catching murderers in the first
48 hours, a lot of that was filmed in Tulsa.
Oh. Mm -hmm. Like, just a lot of missing people
in Tulsa? No, just a lot of murder stuff. Did
not know that. I like going back and... I mean,
what's the line between documentary and reality?
Honestly, I draw the line usually at runtime.
I imagine documentary is more to be like film
length or at least like an hour long. Okay, so
what about like a first 48 or a Dateline or something
like that? Is that... or is that a documentary?
Docu -series, and I will say that it is also
classified as reality. Okay. Well, I mean, in
that case, that would be my go -to as far as
reality would be like true crime, something.
I love going back and watching like old episodes
of Dateline or Unsolved Mysteries or... First
48. What's the because Dateline is NBC. What's
what's the CBS version? I don't know. I don't
remember what's going to say 60 minutes, but
that's definitely wrong. No, that's that's news.
But no, I'll go back and watch like early 2000s
true crime stuff. And mostly because I like going
back and seeing if there was any like changes
in the case or like where they are now. which
obviously you can't do with recent stuff. Sure.
Have you found any with happy endings since their
episode aired? I mean, happy -ish. Like, did
they catch the person who did the things? Well,
it depends on... So, I mean, if you're like...
If I'm looking for, like, what the resolution
was, then that'll probably be from, like, an
Unsolved Mysteries thing, because most of the
datelines and all those stuff, they're all wrapped
up. The Unsolved Mystery ones, I will go check.
If they don't have an update at the end of the
episode, then I'll look into it and see if there's
been any update to it. My son loves Unsolved
Mysteries. Middle child. Not a fan. She doesn't
like the blue balls. She doesn't like the cliffhanger
-ness of... The unsolved part of it? Yeah. Yeah,
that's not her bag. And, like, usually... But
you get to speculate wildly. Usually the unsolved
mystery ones are tame enough where they can watch
it and it's not going to be an issue. I don't
have to explain too many things about the evils
of this world to them. But if I'm, like, watching
Dateline or something, those are the ones she's
more involved in, but definitely not the ones
she should be watching. So, I don't know. I don't
know that I've ever watched Unsolved Mysteries.
I've definitely seen Dateline. I had a phase
for a little while where I would be watching
it when I still lived with Mom. Watching Datelines
and stuff. No. I don't think I ever watched Unsolved
Mysteries. You should check it out. It's on...
I mean, all the episodes, I think all of them
are uploaded onto YouTube. And you have premium,
right? Yeah. Yeah, so you can blow right through
them. Okay. Robert Stack. There's 12 seasons.
Yep. Robert Stack and then Dennis Farina. Because
I think it took a little break and then it came
back with Dennis Farina. Or Robert Stack just
retired and then Dennis Farina took over. Robert
Stack died. That popped up when I was looking
up Unsolved Mysteries. The top part of the thing
was that it got switched out because Robert Stack
died in 03. He died during, like, while it was
in the, during the run? I think so. Oh. Okay.
Well, there you go. I don't know. I don't know
what the longevity of the show was. I've been
to his, uh, I've been to his grave. Or his, uh,
what is it called when it's just like a, huh?
Mausoleum? No, it's, it's like where they have
your ashes on display. That's not a mausoleum?
Uh, no, I think it was, I think they were like
in a, I may be mixing them up. with someone else
that I saw there. But I think that it was like
in a glass display and it had like some memorabilia
from him and then it had his like an urn with
some of his ashes in it. That maybe makes it
end up with someone else. But we still got to
plan our LA cemetery tour. Do you think that
would be an interesting trip? Trevor Moore has
been in conversation a lot lately. Don't you
have your thingamabob? Your pass that you haven't
used? I do, yeah. And I think it goes from...
Austin to LA? Yeah. I'll have to double check.
I'm not sure on that, but yeah, I'm down. I have
it until April, I think, of next year. April?
Okay. We'll figure something out. Do you want
to hazard any guesses towards the top five longest
running reality shows? Okay. I mean, didn't you
say Real World was the longest? No. They won
a Guinness record for it, but that was back in
03. And it's been surpassed enough times that
it's not even in the top five. Oh, okay. How
many of them are game shows? I did not consider
game shows in this part of the... Oh, okay. In
this episode. Okay. So what I have right now...
Yes. That is number four. Four. It's the fourth
longest running with 20 seasons. It started in
2007. Hmm. All but one of them have already been
mentioned in this episode. And this is not...
Not game shows, not competition. Well, they are
competition shows, some of them. They are competitions?
Some of them. But they aren't game shows, necessarily.
Not in the Price is Right sense. The Bachelor
is number five. The Bachelorette? No. Oh. The
Bachelor also has 20 seasons. Men win again.
I think The Bachelorette is probably in the top
ten, but not in the top five. Hmm. Okay, so we
have Keeping Up with the Kardashians. We have
The Bachelor. We have... You have two competition
shows and one not competition show. Survivor.
That is number one with 46 seasons since the
year 2000. Which is absolute insanity. Has more
seasons than The Voice, which I'm pretty sure
is at like their 100th season at this point.
Okay. Amazing Race. Nope. Didn't crack the top
five. No. Big Brother. Big Brother is number
three. Started in 2000 and is at their 25th season.
So now we're just missing number two? You're
just missing number two. No number two. This
list is constipated. Who do you work for? Show
that turd who's boss. I don't know. Can I get
a hint? It's featured in not one, but two episodes
of My Name is Earl. Cops. That is number two.
Started in 1989 and they are on their 37th season.
Huh. Still going. Still going. I had to double
check that one because I definitely did not think
they were still making cops. In like the same
format and everything? I think so. More or less,
at least. It's more of like the body cam stuff
and not the person with the giant camera. Those
were the best. There's no Kevins in this one,
from what I understand. Again, the shootout and
the cops like, get out, get out, get out. And
then the camera guy just like... Whatever they
were paying that camera person, not enough. Peeks
his head over the car. Bullet goes whizzing by.
Greatness. I didn't think that cops was still
around. Not in the same iteration, especially
with all the cop issues that have been pervasive
in the world lately. It seems like that would
be something that would be real easy to nix.
Is it still on Fox? Or is it just some stream
service now? If I remember correctly, it got
dropped and then it got picked back up by Fox.
Isn't Fox where it started? I think it maybe
went somewhere else in the same way that every
animated sitcom has gone to a different station
and then come back around to something else.
Speaking of animations coming back around, have
you watched the new King of the Hill? I've seen
the first two episodes. I haven't seen a ton
of it yet. What'd you think? I really like it.
You liked it? It's not a situation where it just
should have died? Don't get me wrong, I still
very much think that it should have died. I think
what they did with it is still good TV, but I
think that they had their run, and I would have
been totally fine with not having season 14.
I don't remember which season it would be. I
think season 14. We haven't watched it yet. We
haven't set aside the time yet. There are 1 ,100
episodes of Cops. Huh. And the most recent episode,
season 37, episode 36, premiered July 25th of
2025. Huh. Does it say where they are? Stolen
motorcycle leads deputies up a mountain. They're
somewhere in the mountains. Oh, so not in Dallas.
They filmed in Iowa, Polk County in Iowa this
year. Huh. It has been canceled and revived multiple
times. It's currently airing on Fox Nation. Oh,
so yeah, it's like on a sister station now. What
the hell is Cops Reloaded? Never mind. I don't
need to know. It's on Peacock, whatever it is.
Maybe rework that name. I don't think that I've
ever seen... I've never watched Survivor. I've
seen... Clips of cops. I've seen more parodies,
I think, of cops than I've seen actual episodes.
In the Shrek 2 and My Name is Earl kind of way.
What about Reno 911? Or Reno 911. I have seen
that too. Didn't watch Big Brother. Don't care
to see what the Kardashians are doing these days.
And I've seen probably two episodes of The Bachelor.
I've always thought that I would be good on Big
Brother. Yeah? Yeah. You'd be good at manipulating
people? I think so, yeah. I think I worm my way
into your heart real quick and then boom. Just
stab it right up. Love to hear that. I mean,
it's... I mean, it's not my fault I'm so charming.
This is true. It's God's fault. Yep. So looking
at, I was looking for the CBS version of Dateline.
And there is a list of their, what they consider
reality shows. You have Ridiculousness, which
I wouldn't consider that reality. Tosh .0 is
on here too. Definitely wouldn't consider either
of those reality TV. Survivor, Ink Master, Bar
Rescue, Amazing Race, Big Brother, The Summit.
Sounds familiar. I feel like this. I love a cooking
competition show. They are my absolute favorite.
Cutthroat Kitchen and Chopped are so fun to watch.
Yeah. Jersey Shore. Jackass. RuPaul. Another
Jersey Shore. Wild Boys. Did you ever watch that?
I didn't, but it's been recommended to me a couple
times. That's a bam, right? No, it's Chris Pontius
and Steve -O. Oh, okay. Or the Wild Boys. Rob
Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory. Okay. Were you ever
a Teen Mom fan? No. 16 and pregnant? No, I was
never an MTV reality show person. No? I couldn't
do any of that stuff. One of the it was like
people would write into them with like an issue
they were having. It was like a fix my life type
of situation. I don't remember what the show
was called, but it was on MTV. They came to my
high school to film a kid in my grade who was
struggling, losing weight. And so they they filmed.
I don't remember how long it was, but MTV came
to my high school to do some filming. I don't
remember what the show was called. I should look
that up. Give him a shout out. His name's Trevor
something. I don't know. I've been out of high
school for a long time. Yeah. Getting up there.
Yeah. That actually reminds me of the reason
that I picked this episode for today. And that's
because they just released a documentary on The
Biggest Loser, which is also one of the most
well -known, I think, reality competition shows.
That has notoriously worked out very poorly for
the winners of it. What kind of issues? Is that
one of the ones that would have them cheat and
just get them lipo? Stuff like that? So, from
what I understand... I haven't watched the documentary
just yet because it came out on Netflix, and
I am not, unfortunately, a part of the household
that has Netflix. But you could be. I could be,
but nothing. Unless there's any feds watching,
in which case, definitely not. No way, Jose.
From what I understand, the big issue with The
Biggest Loser was that it was a competition show,
and so their priority was to get you to lose
weight. fast you can't get you can't lose weight
fast and sustainably really because realistically
like the quickest way to lose weight don't eat
anything and work out until you're about to destroy
yourself and so they were going to this point
where like the one of the big people involved
in this documentary is a winner who I want to
say he lost like 240 pounds in the span of the
show and has gained every ounce of it back since
it wrapped. And it's because what they were doing
was not, it was not built for positive habits.
It wasn't built to actually help these people
who are clearly struggling. Like they reached
out so that they could lead what their iteration
of a better life was. And it used and abused
them. And then once they were done, there was
no follow -up, no way for them to maintain that
kind of weight loss. Yeah, I mean, that's the
same issue that people have with stuff like Ozempic
and stuff like solutions like that is that it
curbs your appetite. It does what you need it
to do then. But then when that's no longer available
to you, you don't have those. those habits in
place so you just fall back into your old ways
and then all of it, you start up right back where
you were. Yeah. But I feel like there was a show
that I watched that it might have been, it might
have been like Extreme Makeover where they put
them on this plan and then whenever they got
to The time where it was supposed to be like
the results. The results weren't there. And so
they resorted to like lipo and stuff like that.
I feel like I've heard that. It definitely seems
like something a reality show would do. To fudge
the numbers. The show went on for 18 seasons.
You remember a couple episodes back when we were
talking about the song Chicken Fried? Yes. I
can hear it playing at the pool right now. Oh,
yeah? Someone downstairs is listening to Chicken
Fried right now. No way. Zach Brown, if you're
listening, you're coming to my area soon. I'd
love to get some tickets to sit down and talk
that album with you and see which aspects are
about chickens and which aren't. Clear the air.
Yeah. Clear the coop. Set the record straight.
Trevor Russell. That was his name. Trevor Russell.
Okay. Still cannot find the name of that show.
MTV has had so many reality shows, especially
for a channel called Music Television. They had
a show in 1997 called Adult Videos. That sounds
a little concerning. You want to know some just...
really out -of -pocket early 2000s reality shows
that I think would be a fun watch. So, outside
of Sexy Beasts, which is the furry show I mentioned
earlier, no thank you, there is the poorly aged,
to put it mildly, Bridalplasty. That ran for
one season in 2010, where brides competed for
the chance to win not only the wedding of their
dreams, but also the fulfillment of their Plastic
Surgery Wishlist. Huh. That's nice. This is not
one of the ones that is necessarily widely known
as a super, super out there one because it had
a good size cultural impact, but Fear Factor.
That was on for six seasons starting in 2001
and included such challenges. If you are squeamish
or a reasonable human being, maybe tune out for
the next 30 seconds. They included such challenges
as eating horse rectums, drinking donkey semen,
and drinking blended rats. One of the big reasons
that it got canceled was because there was a
lot of animal abuse outcry. You don't say. Can't
imagine why. Was that always hosted by Joe Rogan?
I believe so, yeah. How many people born, I don't
know, post 2004, so 21 -year -olds right now,
realize that Joe Rogan had a career before podcasting?
I mean, I can't imagine many of them, and a lot
of that is because of how drastically different
he looks. Because he's gained, he's doubled in
size. Yeah. He's bald, like he's got... He's
got a very different vibe about him than he had
on news radio and Fear Factor. Yeah, he was on
a show with Phil Hartman. RIP. What a wild trajectory
he's had. He found his niche. He did. One of
the other ones that I think would be a fun thing
to watch, if we ever did a... A live like commentary
kind of podcast playing it straight. It's a dating
show where. I want to say all but one of the.
All but one of them are either gay or straight
of the dudes. And she's trying to find the one
straight guy. Yeah. And if you guessed if she
guessed right, then they would split it. If she
guessed wrong. then the guy would get all those
like a hundred thousand or something like that.
The most incredible thing. I watched the first
episode of that a little while ago and she thought
one of the guys was, this is painfully like 2006
probably. One of the guys she was absolutely
convinced was gay because he had a hairdryer.
She was complaining about hers being broken and
he offered her his. And she thought that meant
that he was gay. Incredible. Where the bar was
set. To be fair, Nate doesn't own a hair dryer,
so I guess that's not a typical male thing. I
don't know. I've only lived with one of them
since I left home. What about... I think there
was Joe Millionaire. I liked Joe Millionaire.
The dating show. Oh, it's the newer one, not
the older one. Were they all millionaires or
one was a millionaire? So one of the things that
kind of annoyed me about the show was that one
of them was a millionaire and the other one was
just like really high in the hundred thousands.
Yeah. So he was still like loaded. So it's not
like you were dealing with Bill Gates and the
guy that lives outside my apartment complex.
Well, is that the there's one. Like one of those
types of dating shows, like the off brand, like
Bachelorette type where a guy was on it. Lost
his shit. Like start like when after like attacking
people got kicked off the show and then like
a year later murdered his girlfriend. And I want
to say Vegas. That sounds familiar. That sounds
familiar, but I'm not sure who you're talking
about. There's a YouTuber that I follow who does
commentary videos every once in a while on reality
TV. And one of the ones he did recently was True
Beauty, which was another early 2000s show. But
it's talking about these 10 super attractive
people trying to... buy for a spot on People's
Top 100 Hottest People. And the surprise plot
twist in the show is that they're actually judging
not only physical attractiveness, but their actual
inner beauty. And they set these people up with,
in the last episode, there was a stuntman that
just eats it. outside of a building that the
uh the models are going into and they judge these
people based on the hidden camera footage of
whether or not they held this dude who just bit
the curb one of them did and one of them didn't
and it was the deal breaker and the reason that
this girl went home was because she just like
looked at this dude with disdain for falling
over his bicycle okay here we go It was the show
Megan Wants a Millionaire. Okay. In 2009, Jenkins
was identified as the suspect in the murder of
his ex -wife, model Jasmine Fiore, whose mutilated
body was found in a suitcase in California. It
was VH1. Megan Wants a Millionaire. Oh, my God.
And I don't even think that the whole thing ended
up airing because they pulled it. But no, he
was kicked off the show for violent outbursts.
And then I think it was like a year later is
when he got caught. Yeah. That is interesting.
One thing that I will say is Emily watches shows
like Life After Lockup. I do generally like the
shows in that vein that show that maybe show
a side of society that people don't really pay
attention to or people kind of shove off to the
side and see that these people like they realize
that they've made mistakes. And they are trying
to live their best life despite those mistakes
and trying to overcome them. I do like those
shows. That being said, that there is the stink
of reality show on it where they're in like throuples
and their love triangles and all this other stuff.
He's got this woman on the outside, but then
he's got this boyfriend on the inside or just
that kind of stuff. Not a big fan of that part.
But I do like the I don't know, like the just
the snippets that you get of people's actual
lives and just trying to make the best of the
situation that they're in, which I think is what
most reality shows should aim for. But those
genuine moments aren't probably aren't prevalent
enough. for you to be able to sustain a show
and keep people engaged in it. So I get the aspect
that everything has to be this circus, but I
do think that you can get some genuine bits of
life out of these reality shows, especially the
ones that maybe... Give you a glimpse into a
not so glamorous life. Sure. I mean, what do
you think is the biggest takeaway from reality
shows? Like, what do you think is the most positive
takeaway and what's the most negative takeaway?
I think the most positive takeaways are from
shows. I don't know if it's the most positive
takeaway from a show like Love on the Spectrum,
but the most positive takeaway I think from a
lot of these reality shows should be that what
you're talking about with Life After Lockup,
that it's this section of society that you might
have these preconceived notions about that you
don't necessarily think about all that often,
and so they just fit into these neat and tidy
boxes when in reality they're actual human beings.
Yeah. who have just as diverse of a life as you
do. And so it's, I think that's the benefit of
reality shows. But the flip side of that is that
it is also a breeding ground for more hate and
misinformation and just like all kinds of exploitation.
That like, yeah, exploitation, the vitriolic.
It's just, it's not. more often than not done
in a way that's tactful. Like with The Biggest
Loser, I think a lot of the thing with The Biggest
Loser on its face is that it's supposed to be
this empowering thing. You too can lose all of
this weight if you're determined and you have
X amount of time or this much dedication, whatever.
But at the same time, it's also a breeding ground
for that kind of it. It also kind of promotes
the idea that like, oh, if I can do it, then
so can you. So there's no reason that you should
be fat. But also, I don't have Jillian Michaels
on my team. I can't afford any of the dieticians.
I can't go on with my day -to -day probably if
I'm not eating. I'm taking caffeine pills and
I'm working out 24 -7. That's just not sustainable
or achievable. Yeah. And I think that especially
shows like the biggest loser show their hand
right in the title. Yeah. Like the biggest loser.
It draws in the kind of people that probably
I think in their in their estimation have done
everything that they can conceive of on their
own in order to get to get their body, get their
mind, get their life to the point that they want
it to be. And the producers of these shows know
that. And so whenever these people come to them
and say, hey, I want to audition to be on The
Biggest Loser, they know that these people are
making it like a Hail Mary and like this is last
last ditch effort. And they know that these people
will probably do whatever they throw their way.
Right. Like they say, hey, you want to get here?
This is what you got to do. You got to do this.
You got to do that. You got to do this. You got
to do that. I don't care how embarrassing it
is for you. Do you want to be the you that you
think you should be? Then you got to do this.
And then that's where the exploitation comes
in. And that's where the people sign up to be
the biggest loser because the title of the show
works on both ends. At the end, it's it's the
you lost the most weight. You are literally the
biggest loser of weight. But then in the beginning,
it's like you are such a loser. You're the world's
biggest loser that you had to come on a show
to have your entire life put out there for everyone
to see all of your mistakes, all of your bad
habits, all of that, just for the glimmer of
hope that maybe you can change something in your
life. And then these people, whether it works
out for them or not. At the end of the day, if
they don't wholeheartedly believe it, then it's
it's all for nothing. It's all a temporary patch
on a sustained problem. Yeah. And that's that's
an issue. That's just part of being a human.
Is that if I mean, this this is something that
I have struggled with and something I have dealt
with in my life. Just personally, I didn't need
to go on a TV show for it, but. It's the fact
that if you don't believe in the change, if you
don't do the steps on your own to make the changes
happen, then nothing's ever going to change.
You're going to fall right back into those bad
habits. Right, yeah. And so the whole biggest
loser stuff is just, it's the patch. It's these
people saying, I give up. Tell me what I need
to do to get here. It's not the people actually
actually coming to terms with it on their own
that, hey, this is what I need to do to get to
where I need to be. And so I need to create a
sustained program for myself in order to get
there. It's I died. I'm at a loss. So fix this
for me. But other people can't fix it. You got
to fix it yourself. Yeah, I think. I would be
really interested. Like I said, I've never seen
the show Hoarders, so I don't actually know what
kind of tact that they hopefully do the cleanup
and things with. But I would be really curious
to know if in the aftermath of hoarding cleanup,
those people are actually sustaining the cleanliness
or if it's just... Because you have to imagine,
especially with a thing like hoarding, that...
it's a thing that if you are not willing to change
for yourself in the same way that like the weight
loss thing would be, you're not willing to change
it for yourself. Then no matter how much intervention
you're able to get, like it's not going to do
you enough good. Like it won't actually help
you in the long run because the, the root cause
of the issue is not solved. You fixed the, you
put a bandaid over it. A clean house does not
make you mentally well enough to fix this. Maybe
we could tackle it together. Watch a couple episodes.
Yeah. See what we think. Because, yeah, I mean,
I don't know if someone comes in and helps you
with it and maybe tries to help you see the things
in your life that are causing this. If you get
all the clutter out and you start from zero again.
whether that's just actually starting from zero
or a new beginning to a different life. I would
probably put my money on especially the people
that would be presented to you on hoarders, which
I don't... think that it is it's probably not
something that the people directly sign up for
i'm sure there's a percent a small percentage
of them that do like hey i need help with this
i think it's probably mostly concerned relatives
friends or whatever reaching out to the show
and say hey i need i need help with this it's
just like uh what was it dr drew with his interventions
yeah Like it's not the people saying, hey, I
need help. It's the people saying, hey, this
person needs help. Can you help them? And so
I think especially coming from there, I think
it's more likely going to be just starting back
from zero and then building it back up than it
is going back to zero and staying there. But
no, I would be interested. uh yeah start on some
older episodes uh check it out see what we think
and then maybe see if there's a follow -up somewhere
that where are they now we could also check out
yeah yeah they can be interesting it's a it's
a sad show and it's premise but if you think
about it a lot of reality shows are pretty sad
when you think about them a little too much yeah
uh on a much lighter note Do you want to know
one of my little fun fact honorable mentions
for today? Yes. There are 32 different iterations
of The Real Housewives. Good Lord. 11 domestic
and 21 international. I know that the one in
Dallas didn't last very long. Yeah. The original
was the OC. In addition to, yeah. In addition
to Orange County, you have New York City, Atlanta,
New Jersey, D .C., Beverly Hills, Miami, Potomac.
I assume that isn't that also D .C.-ish? Where?
I don't know where that is. Potomac? Potomac?
There's a Real Housewives of Potomac, which I
don't really understand that one. I would think
that would be D .C. I'm curious how that one
would be different. There's also Dallas, Salt
Lake City, and Rhode Island. Salt Lake City,
just a bunch of Mormon wives? I mean, it's different
from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. That's another
one that Emily watches is Sister Wives. I've
always been baffled by that those people have
a show. I mean, it makes sense because the drama
is off the charts. Yeah, it's they're not even
they're not even sister wives anymore. None of
them. He's only got one wife left. And how is
there still a show? I didn't know that. Yeah,
just Robin. How long has that show been on? Long
time. Twenty. 2009, 2010, maybe. Oh, OK. It's
nuts. Yeah. Another. kind of sub -genre of reality
TV that I absolutely hate is family shows. Aside
from the Keeping Up with the Kardashians things,
I hate 19 Kids and Counting. I don't want to
watch Octo Mom, Kate Plus 8, or John and Kate
Plus 8, whichever iteration you want to go with.
It's just gross. It was the people that sold
their children before they were influencers.
Yeah. Now all this stuff is coming out about
Kate Gosselin, who I think maybe just got a TikTok.
Yeah, and then she got blasted, and I'm pretty
sure that that was the end of her TikTok. It
was just like, what's her dumbass name? Casey
Anthony. Casey Anthony. Who had a TikTok for
some reason. Had a TikTok for a hot second. I
would be surprised if it is still current. But
you got away with it. Just go. Just stay out
of the limelight. Right. That is when you...
You fade into the mist and be, I guess, grateful
that there is no karma in this world. Not that
we know of. I will say, on a very unimportant
part of that, that I am glad that she still has
the same haircut. She still has the I'd like
to speak to a manager haircut after 17 years,
I think. A while, yeah. And I like that John
is finally starting to... I don't I don't think
that any parent that is willing to subject their
children to the reality show nonsense is all
that great of a parent. from whatever prison
school Kate had him in in order to get his dad
to save him. So I do like that he's getting his
recognition for that. And maybe it was like he
got blinded by it, too, because I think that
these networks throw out numbers, especially
for people that weren't celebrities beforehand.
They throw out these numbers, these dollar signs
that these people have never seen before. The
Honey Boo Boos, the... dance mom people, all
that stuff. They throw out these numbers. And
so these people feel like they can't say no.
And then they're just under that microscope for
the rest of their lives. And so I think it's
really easy in the beginning to be blinded by
it. And then once you step away from it, say,
holy hell, that was awful. And then try to distance
yourself from it. But then obviously Kate wasn't
so eager. To separate herself from it and maybe
save her kids from whatever turmoil they have
going on. And then sounds like creating a bunch
of turmoil on her own for her children. Yeah,
the amount of apathy you have to have for your
children to want to put them through that for
a paycheck is insanity. Yeah. And I'm sure there's
all sorts of ways that people reason with themselves
about, hey, well, when this opportunity came,
I felt like I couldn't. Ignore it and then whatever.
But like Honey Boo Boo is always going to have
that stigma for her entire life. Yeah. Mama June
and all the the stuff she got caught up in. That's
always going to be there. Yeah. Like there there
is such a heavier cost to. exposing every aspect
of your life to the world that I cannot see a
situation in which that paycheck is worth it.
Sure, of course. And you know that these people
are getting like the Disney treatment, like they
aren't getting residuals, they aren't getting
anything like that. So they get that paycheck
and then it's done. They don't even have a sustained
unless they can use that to propel themselves
into. Doing other things, which then that's when
you get into like the celebrity boxing and celebrity
episodes of whatever. The Apprentice or. I don't
know what other celebrity. Show celebrity big
brother. There was that claim to fame thing,
which was celebrity hangers on. Which I always
thought was really funny. I didn't actually watch
that show, but. I do think it would be a fun
watch. Yeah. You ever watch that? Uh, that was
hosted by the bonus Jonas. Oh, and it was, Oh
yes, yes, I did. Yeah. Franklin, Franklin, Jonas,
Franklin and Kevin. Oh, okay. Yeah. We actually,
we actually watched, uh, I think there was two
seasons. We watched all of it. No, no, there's
going to be a third one. Yeah, it's funny that
the hangers -on were the bonus Jonas and the
third Jonas brother that no one really cared
for. I take that back. I would be lashed once
this episode came out if I said no one cared
about Kevin because that's Emily's favorite Jonas
brother. But grand scheme of things, it is Joe,
Nick, Kevin. Or Nick, Joe, Kevin. Or Nick, Joe,
Kevin. Kevin is always third. Kevin is usually
third, yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, Kevin
also had a reality show with his wife, Danielle.
Yeah. Should I phone a friend real quick? You
should. It was called Married to Jonas. It lasted
two seasons in 2012. Hold on. Hey. Can you tell
me everything you know about... Kevin Jonas's
reality show? It was just a show about him and
his wife. Was it good? To me. Yeah. Who's your
favorite Jonas? Kevin. What about Kevin? Okay.
Well, if that's all the insight you can give
me is that it was just a reality show with him
and his wife, then that's all I needed. Okay.
All right. Thanks. Love you, bye. Love you, bye.
That wasn't as fruitful as I thought it would
be. That was a fun phone a friend. No, I think
those little one -off celebrity reality TV shows
are interesting. I don't think I would ever be
interested in watching any of them, but I think
it's interesting that so many of them exist.
Also, I had a couple of honorable mentions when
it comes to reality shows that were led by celebrities.
One of which is Flavor of Love, the dating show
for some reason, hosted by Flava Flav. Yeah.
The Vanilla Ice Project, which lasted a mind
-boggling nine seasons. Isn't that a home renovation
show? Yes. Also, also a Dallas boy. The final
episode was in 2019, which was not a thing that
I knew until just now. Who is still listening
to Vanilla Ice doing things in 2019? Good for
Robert Van Winkle. Good for Robert Van Winkle,
man. There was also, he did a show with the Amish
that I don't remember the name of. I really wish
that I did right now. Vanilla Ice Goes Amish.
which aired on the DIY Network, which is a thing
that existed. That's not called Romspringa Baby.
The show follows rapper and home improvement
expert. Home expert. Incredible title. Yeah.
He went through nine seasons. Of course he's
an expert. That was like nine years worth of
Vanilla Ice learning about home improvement.
He embeds himself with an Amish family in Holmes
County, Ohio, learning about traditional handcraftsmanship
by participating in construction projects and
farm tasks like barn raising. Hmm. Raise a barn
on Monday, soon I'll raise another. Think you're
really righteous? Think you're pure at heart?
Well, I know I'm a million times as humble as
thou art. This was, for some reason, a follow
-up to his other DIY network show, The Vanilla
Eyes Project, which was the home renovations.
Why exactly was this a follow -up to Extreme
Makeover Vanilla Ice Edition? It got a 7 .6 out
of 10 on IMDb. I mean, maybe it's worth checking
out. I don't know. I believe that it is. You
don't judge a book by its cover. Oh, it's on
YouTube. Nice. There you go. And also maybe Netflix.
Cool. Well, if only you had access to Netflix.
If only I had access to Netflix. Damn. I won't
be getting another subscription service. We talked
about this for an hour and a half last week.
Okay. Okay. You say that now. You say that now.
I do. Yeah. All right. Do you have anything else
for this one? No. I think that was all of my
insights on reality TV. All right. Well, then
what words of wisdom do you have for our listeners
to take with them into the next week? If you
watch reality TV, but you don't participate in
it, understand that nothing that you're watching
is reality. If you are participating in it, make
it fun. Do something ridiculous. Maybe don't
get caught for murder. But other than that, the
world is your oyster. The world is your oyster.
What do you got? I would say that if you want
a long -term solution for your life, you're not
going to find it on a reality TV show. The only
way you're going to find it is when you realize
what the issue is and you... Win the lottery.
No. No. No. There is a whole list of people that
have ended up in much worse situations after
winning the lottery. But no, you realize the
problem. You come up with a solution on your
own. Whether you need outside help to fulfill
that solution is a different story. But that
is the only way you're going to have long -term
success. And... Don't be afraid to reach out
to us with all of your reality show tidbits.
Maybe you're on a reality show. Maybe you could
give us some insights onto a perspective that
we're lacking in. And if you would like to reach
out to us, you can. Hit us up on TikTok, YouTube,
or Instagram at CashExchangePod. Also, sound
off in the comments. As to which of the Jonas
Brothers is the best, do you pick Nick? Are you
more of a Cubba Joe kind of person? Let us know.
Or do you play it safe with Kevin? Do you for
some reason love Kevin? I don't have a good tagline
for Kevin, which I think might be bad branding,
and that's why he's the third -ranked Jonas Brother.
Maybe he just doesn't care. Maybe he's just too
cool for it. He deserves better marketing. He's
not over here marrying Game of Thrones people.
And then Franklin's just off living his best
life. Yeah. All right, Emma, with that, we'll
see you. Peace out, Girl Scouts.