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Hey, hey, hey, look at this guy. You see this

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guy's shirt? This guy's shirt? Look at him. Yeah.

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What's your name, sir? What's your name? Yeah.

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Oh, no, you don't mind. I'm just going to use

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you to further my career because I don't have

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any creativity of my own. What's your name? Welcome

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to the show, people. Welcome to the show. Eat

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my shorts. So here is to conversation. Tranquility

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Base here. The Eagle has landed. Welcome to the

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Cash Exchange. What's up? How have you been?

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Been pretty good. What about you? I am good.

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I've been real annoyed with my apartment today

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because I found out that they're increasing spaces

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in my apartment that I don't have signal on my

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phone. Also, my Wi -Fi was out for some reason

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this morning. So I've been having a real annoying

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battle with technology today. Other than that,

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though, it's been great. Yeah. Thankfully, hopefully,

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things are all settled now. Yeah. Sounds like

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lots of fun. It's not, uh, not great. You know,

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I was thinking about that, the trip I had and

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all the problems I had at O 'Hare. And I think

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the farther away from them I am, the funnier

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it is. So like in the last episode, I told you

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about how I got there at God awful time. And

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as soon as I walked in, there was a six hour

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delay. Four hour delay, something like that.

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Well, what I ended up doing at the end was I

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got a flight. I had the original flight on American

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and got switched over to Southwest. Originally,

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I didn't think that Southwest left from O 'Hare

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because like there's a regional airport. It's

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like Dallas. There's the international airport

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and then there's a regional airport. So I saw

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that. There were flights from Southwest leaving

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out of the regional airport, but apparently they

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also fly out of O 'Hare. And so I was in the

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main part where American Airlines is, and I talked

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to my people. They got me a flight on Southwest,

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and they were like, you just have to make sure

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you get there in like 45 minutes or something

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like that. I was like, okay, well, if it's on

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the grounds, that's no problem. So I follow all

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the signs to get to Terminal 5, which is where

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the Southwest is. O 'Hare goes Terminals 1 through

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5. So obviously this was kind of one of the last

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ones to make the cut. And so I keep following

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all these signs. Hey, Terminal 5, up ahead. Terminal

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5, up ahead. Terminal 5, up ahead. I get to one

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door and it says... Terminal 5 up ahead, but

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then just below that is a sign that says, once

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you leave these doors, you cannot turn back.

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Is that a threat? What? What? Okay. I mean, I'm

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looking at my map on my phone. I'm looking at

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the signs. Everything says Terminal 5 straight

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ahead. So I go back through, start following

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signs for Terminal 5. At this point, I could

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just walk outside and be on the street. So I

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am out of the airport at this point. following

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the signs, and it tells me that I have to take

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the tram to go from where I am to Terminal 5.

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It's off in Narnia, not connected to the real

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thing. I had to take the tram there. I had bought

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a Coke and two bottles of water, like two liters

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of water. I'm on the tram. I realize that I have

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what amounts to like $20 worth of liquids in

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my backpack. And realize that I am going to have

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to go through security again. So I'm sitting

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on this tram. Did you start chugging? Trying

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to down, because I'm not going to waste it, trying

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to down two liters of water and a 20 -ounce Coke

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all before I get there. And so I get off the

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tram, halfway done with my drinks, and then walk

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up. And it literally, like, you walk up to security

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right after you get off the tram. And so I'm

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just standing there trying to chug this stuff

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down, get it all. In my body so that I can go

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to go through the security stuff, get it done,

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go in, turn the corner. Line is like 75 people

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deep. So I'm full of all these liquids. I have

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a good probably, I don't know, 30, 45 minutes

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before I can get through security and find a

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bathroom. And I'm just I'm just stuck there.

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And I waited and waited. And waited about halfway

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through. Bladder was about to explode. But I

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waited. I waited. I finally get up to the thing.

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They scan my ID and he looks at it weird and

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says, which flight are you here for? It's like,

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I don't know. I don't know what flight number

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it is. The one for Southwest. I don't know. Because

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I had two tickets. So I'm sure I sent up all

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kinds of red flags. But I'm sure this is something

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that they deal with. Probably a lot. Especially

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at O 'Hare, yeah. That's got to be pretty common.

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Anyways, he let me go through without too much

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incident. I get through. I race to a bathroom.

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And the first thing I notice about this terminal

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is it's just one pathway. There's no branching

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off. There's no way to get lost. You're either

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on one end or you're on the other. And as you're

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walking through, you've seen you've seen Raiders

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of the Lost Ark, right? Indiana Jones. Yeah.

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You know, those scenes where he's like racing

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through the markets trying to escape the bad

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guys, chase after the bad guys, whatever it is.

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And there's just like just people just have their

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shit all out in the walkway and like begging

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you to come in, like buy something from me. That

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was the vibe of this airport, of this terminal.

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And this is the terminal that has Southwest,

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Frontier. I don't think they have Spirit. But

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I think the biggest one there is Delta, which

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of the big ones, that's the small one. Sure.

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And so this is where they shove all the ugly

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redheaded stepchildren is into Terminal 5. And

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you just get a very weird. aura when you walk

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through this terminal and just you feel like

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you're going to turn the corner and there's going

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to be like a a cobra in a basket and a snake

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charmer there with a little you know and then

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not just news has wares if you have coin yeah

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you can buy a monkey paw if you go to the back

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but then the Everything about this terminal just

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seemed like an afterthought because I'll post

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the pictures on Instagram when this episode goes

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live, but they don't have central air conditioning.

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What? Yeah. Which, I mean, if I hadn't been in

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the main one, I might have thought like, hey,

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maybe this is just like a Midwest thing and North

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thing that they just don't have the built -in

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infrastructure for air conditioning. What they

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had instead was they had these rooms next to

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where everyone's seated. And it's like just a

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rhombus -shaped room with these giant ports sticking

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out of them. And that's where the air conditioning

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is. Okay. Instead of vents in the floor, instead

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of vents in the ceiling, there's just these...

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Big -ass rooms, like every, I don't know, 100

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feet, just pumping out air conditioning from

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these units that are just sitting there. And

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I... Why? Why do you treat the people like this,

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especially people that are about to get on a

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Frontier flight or a Southwest flight? They're

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setting you up. They're setting our expectations

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exactly where they're supposed to be. Rock bottom.

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You don't fly Frontier or Spirit or Delta because

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you care about your experience. If the plane

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will get me from here to Denver in one piece,

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more or less, then I'm fine. I had such a...

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Just the day was total ass. I was offered to

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upgrade my ticket for twenty five dollars so

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I could get like priority seating. And I couldn't

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tell you the last time I flew on Southwest. It

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was probably three, four years ago. So I got

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it and it was like, OK, well, you're guaranteed

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number one through 15. Just wait until we give

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you a number. And my number ended up being five.

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Like, great. Fifth. So I'll definitely be able

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to pick my seat because that's still going on

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until the end of the year. And everything's going

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to be peachy keen. But what I forgot about is

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what a pain in the ass the numbering system is,

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because you either have people that are like,

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yeah, I'm whatever. I'm seven. I'm 12. I'm 15.

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And they call like the first 15. And you're going

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to have people that are either going to shove

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their phone in your face, say, no, this I need

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to be here because this is my spot. See, I'm

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three. What are you? What are you? Let me see

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your phone. Let me see it. What are you? Or you

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have people that are like two and then they don't

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want to mess with it. So they're just they're

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just going and getting behind like 15 or whatever.

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That's a stupid system. I don't like it. I think

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they should make everyone like hold a placard.

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Like you go up to the desk and then you get your

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little you get your little placard with your

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number on it. That way there's no confusion.

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And it's a very elementary way. to handle adults

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getting on an airplane anyways. Just get your

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number in line and stick to it and just use the

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honor system. Isn't someone shoving their phone

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in your face the same thing as them just holding

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a physical sign? But if everyone has a placard

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and the placards are on full display, then no

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one has any issues because they're just there.

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It's there for you. You think no one's going

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to have any issues? I don't know. I don't know.

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I got on the plane and then I picked... the seat

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that didn't have anything in front of it. So

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I got to stretch out and it was nice. Uh, except

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I didn't get anywhere to put my backpack except

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two rows ahead of me. So that's a first world

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problem that I was glad to have. I had a little

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pullout tray and, uh, yeah. What was your in

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-flight entertainment? Uh, I did some work on

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our episode list. I cleaned it up a little bit

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and then I watched. I downloaded the first season

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of Ted, and I watched part of it on the way there,

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but I don't think I watched it on the way back.

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Is there more than one season of Ted? No. The

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next one is coming out in February, I think.

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I feel like I watched something. I don't remember

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what it was, though. I did watch that Foggy Mountain

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movie with the Please Don't Destroy guys. It

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was pretty good. It was very pop star -ish. So

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still pretty much the same. Same genre. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of bringing up things from

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previous episodes, how many phone outlets did

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you find? How many phone jacks? I forgot to look

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if we're being for realsies. Although I will

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say that our mom, who does listen to our podcast,

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our biggest fan since day one, did text me a

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picture as she was listening to the episode of

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what the phone jack looks like. Mm hmm. So I

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do know what they look like. I don't see the

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difference in that and an Ethernet cable. I understand

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there is one, but I also am pretty sure they

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come on the same little outlet thing. They can.

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Ethernets are bigger, though. Yeah. Well, I don't

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know if my apartment has one. So I will still

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have to report back on that at a later episode.

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Spoiler alert. It doesn't. It doesn't have one.

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Also circling back on a previous episode, have

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you seen the Matt Rife ads with Elf Cosmetics?

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Uh -huh. I did. How do you feel about him? I

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don't like Matt Reif. I don't either. I don't

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think he's funny. I don't either. He gives a

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young gravy but wrong vibe. Crowd work is not

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stand -up. Like, if all of your comedy is due

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to the people in your audience, that's no bueno.

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You're a professional mean girl. Yeah. Hey, hey,

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hey, look at this guy. You see this guy's shirt?

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This guy's shirt? Look at him. Yeah. What's your

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name, sir? What's your name? Yeah. Oh, no, you

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don't mind. I'm just going to use you to further

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my career because I don't have any creativity

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of my own. What's your name? That's the vibe

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I get from Matt Rife. For sure. It's either that

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or he just plays on the demographic that he's

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gotten a lot, which is middle -aged women. Yeah.

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I don't know if he's still popular in the...

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cougar community but he had a big following there

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for a while lots of women we are boycotting elf

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cosmetics now because they used a comedian that

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makes light of dv yeah which okay but like stop

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saying you're gonna boycott stuff stop taking

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the time out of your i'm sure very busy life

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to sit down and make these videos demanding that

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other people are going to do something that you're

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not going to do. Stop it. Yeah, that's... Got

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any other things to throw in before we go into

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our three things for today? Any other housekeeping?

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I don't believe so. All right. Your three things

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for today are pageants, ghosts, and prisons.

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Pageants, ghosts, and prisons? Yes. Places dead

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-eyed people are. That's a good one. Not what

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I have, but yes. I don't know. I feel like they're

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interconnected enough that once I hear it, I'm

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going to be irritated that I didn't guess it.

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Sure. But pageants, ghosts, and prison. Do you

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want to hear the fourth thing that I originally

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had in place of prisons on this list? Okay. Furries.

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I took it off both because drawing that for the

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weekly Instagram post is going to be a little

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too difficult to track the wrong crowd. And it's

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already been used before in our episodes, I believe.

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I don't remember which one, but one in our backlog.

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Places people's decisions have led them to be

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in. Furries and ghosts aren't places. It's a

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state of being. You make a bad decision. You

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end up in prison. You don't fulfill. You have

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unfinished business when you die. You go to the

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ghost realm. You grow up without a father. You

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end up in furry land. Your parents decide that

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they miss the boat on fame and fortune, so they

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shove you into the pageant circuit. I mean, it

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does fit. But no, I don't know. I accept your

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premise. Well, I appreciate that. I think you

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might be getting a little bit too in the weeds

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on this one because the connection here is that

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each is a theme in our topic for today, reality

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TV. There are several shows for each of those

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categories. There is only one for furries, but

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that is still one too many in my personal opinion.

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What is the furries one? Where did I go wrong?

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The furries one. From the parents' perspective?

00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:10.299
So, technically, there's a couple of tie -ins

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with furries and reality TV. The one specifically

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that I was looking at was a dating show on Netflix

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back in 2014 called Wild Sexy Beast. It's a dating

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show like Love is Blind because you don't really

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know what the person looks like. But you're dating

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them Masked Singer style. Rings a bell. Furry

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costumes. Gross. Yeah. Yeah. The other one is

00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:40.160
it plays in a couple of My Strange Addiction

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episodes, which is a whole different beast. Do

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you watch reality? Reality TV. Not reality. Do

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I watch reality TV? One of the furthest things

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from. Yeah. What's the definition of reality

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TV? Is it like a... Do game shows count? I was

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trying to narrow it down whenever I was doing

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research for this episode, so I didn't include

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them, but I would consider game shows to be reality

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TV. Okay, but like sustained plot game shows,

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right? Like Big Brother? That's reality TV? I

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would think, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I watched Big

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Brother for a little while. Never really got

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into Survivor. Can't Stand the Kardashians. Was

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into Duck Dynasty for a while. I'm sure I watched

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The Osbournes. What about Jackass? Is that reality

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TV? I guess I would consider Jackass to be reality

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TV. Okay. Yeah. And then like Viva La Bam. Ever

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watch like Road Rules or what is it? Simple Life?

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The one with Nicole Richie and Chris Hilton.

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No, never watched it. But yeah, that is Simple

00:19:01.910 --> 00:19:05.230
Life. Road Rules. What's the one Theo Vaughn

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was on? Real World. I think it was Road Rules.

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Was that like people living in a house and just

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being observed? It was like Big Brother, but

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there was a no holds barred thing on the cameras

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from what I understand. I don't know how that's

00:19:19.309 --> 00:19:21.089
different from Big Brother because I didn't ever

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really watch that one, but I've heard it's pretty

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similar. They did win a Guinness. Real World

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won a Guinness record for the longest -running

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reality TV show back in 2003, which has since

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been super eclipsed. I think even at that point,

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it was technically eclipsed by one of the ones

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that's in my top five that I was going to get

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into in just a little bit. Yeah. Number four,

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I want to say it's like 17th? I don't usually

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like the ones where it's their day -to -day.

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And, oh, how did they get in this situation?

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That's crazy. This is just their everyday life.

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It's not. It's not their everyday life. All these

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situations are scripted. Yeah. What made you

00:20:09.150 --> 00:20:12.630
get into Duck Fantasy? The culture, the beards,

00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:17.230
the. I'll accept that. I went through a phase

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where I was really into like bow hunting and

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going to like the. the skeet shooting range.

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And, uh, yeah, I mean, it just, uh, I don't know.

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I think it came around at the right time and

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then puttered out. And then now I think there's

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a resurgence of it. Is there? Yeah. I think that

00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.759
they, uh, think there's a new season either out

00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:49.400
or coming out. Oh, weird. Yeah. That's not come

00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:52.299
up in my research. Yeah. I might not be on the

00:20:52.299 --> 00:20:56.200
right side of. Plus, I think that the company

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and the family just had a real interesting story.

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So I think that was a big factor for why I watched

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it. What about you? What shows have you been

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into? My favorite kind of reality shows are the

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ones that are based around a specific hobby or

00:21:17.220 --> 00:21:22.940
a specific fixation, I guess. So my favorite

00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:25.680
ones are like Extreme Couponers, Extreme Cheapskates,

00:21:25.900 --> 00:21:30.339
My Strange Addiction, like the TLC kind of. No,

00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.339
do not like that show. I've not watched it, but

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don't want to. I don't like the ones that feel

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like they're preying on the people that they're

00:21:41.779 --> 00:21:46.420
covering. People with an issue? Yes. Like if

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it's done for informative purposes and it's just

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like representation. of an issue. Like, like

00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:56.859
with Love on the Spectrum. Love on the Spectrum

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feels like it's really respectful of all of these

00:22:00.460 --> 00:22:06.019
people's, like, their autism and Asperger's and

00:22:06.019 --> 00:22:07.660
all of the, like, different conditions and things.

00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:12.299
It doesn't feel exploitative, but a lot of the

00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:14.980
TLC stuff does. A lot of the, like, my 600 -pound

00:22:14.980 --> 00:22:18.980
life and orders, all of that kind of stuff is

00:22:18.980 --> 00:22:22.859
just, it's gross. To some extent, also my strange

00:22:22.859 --> 00:22:25.180
addiction, because there's people who eat couches

00:22:25.180 --> 00:22:28.980
and soap and all kinds of things that are very

00:22:28.980 --> 00:22:33.059
much a cry for help. But I'm not also a big fan

00:22:33.059 --> 00:22:35.180
of those episodes. I'm more into the guy who's

00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:38.740
in love with his car or his pool floaties. Or

00:22:38.740 --> 00:22:41.079
the girl who has bought 3 ,000 pairs of shoes.

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Or his real -life dolls and treats them like

00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:52.579
people. Has birthday parties for me. I'm not

00:22:52.579 --> 00:22:55.359
here for a Lars and the real girl situation.

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No. I don't think so. Are we still planning on

00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:06.880
Love on Spectrum having its own episode? I think

00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.700
it could get its own episode. Yeah. I think we

00:23:10.700 --> 00:23:13.119
should maybe bring in the other two for that

00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:18.460
one. We're bringing in the ringers. I think that's...

00:23:19.500 --> 00:23:23.359
I am going to have a very hard time with that

00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:29.460
episode. I have been rewatching The Office. I

00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:32.500
started, I always, when I rewatch it, I always

00:23:32.500 --> 00:23:35.400
start with like halfway through season two because

00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:40.920
season one is, it just hurts me. Sure, that's

00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:45.440
true with most shows. And so I don't deal well

00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:49.529
with people in situations that I wouldn't want

00:23:49.529 --> 00:23:53.329
to be in, like real awkward situations. And I

00:23:53.329 --> 00:23:59.190
feel like that is 110 % of that show is, I mean,

00:23:59.190 --> 00:24:01.710
I haven't, I haven't sat down and like actually

00:24:01.710 --> 00:24:05.609
fully watched it, but it seems like that is a

00:24:05.609 --> 00:24:08.450
big theme of the show is like, we're going to

00:24:08.450 --> 00:24:10.609
put them in these situations that make them uncomfortable

00:24:10.609 --> 00:24:14.069
because it makes good TV. And we're just going

00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:17.299
to see what happens. I think as far as that goes,

00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.680
they're not really, I mean, they are uncomfortable,

00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.519
but they're, from what I understand, they sought

00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:25.500
out this show because they wanted to find love.

00:24:25.619 --> 00:24:29.480
And so it wasn't a matter of like, let's just

00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.559
track down people with these specific kind of

00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:38.839
mental conditions and use them for dating show

00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.140
fodder. Like when Abby? Oh, sorry, go ahead.

00:24:42.299 --> 00:24:45.369
Go ahead. No, and Abby is singing that song that

00:24:45.369 --> 00:24:52.609
she wrote to whatever his name is. David? Yes,

00:24:52.670 --> 00:24:56.869
David. Yeah. No, I can't do it. Emily will try

00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:58.670
to show it to me on TikTok. I'm like, nah, I'm

00:24:58.670 --> 00:25:02.890
good. I think so. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I

00:25:02.890 --> 00:25:05.490
do think that most of those love songs that I

00:25:05.490 --> 00:25:07.990
wrote for my partner are supposed to be cringy

00:25:07.990 --> 00:25:10.920
to anyone not in that relationship. Yeah. Like

00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:13.779
if I wrote a love song to Nate and played it

00:25:13.779 --> 00:25:16.559
in front of like you and Emily, it would make

00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.700
you a little uncomfortable. Can you break us

00:25:18.700 --> 00:25:21.579
off any? I can't, but maybe in a follow -up episode.

00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.140
Yeah. I don't have a note to my Chardonnay kind

00:25:26.140 --> 00:25:31.599
of line for him, unfortunately. All right. We'll

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:35.480
be expecting it. Yeah. Beyond pins and needles.

00:25:36.140 --> 00:25:39.619
I'll get to working on it. All right. Do you

00:25:39.619 --> 00:25:46.519
have a least favorite type of reality TV? I mean,

00:25:46.579 --> 00:25:50.880
it's like sounds cliche, but like the Keeping

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.680
Up with the Kardashians type. Yeah. Like the

00:25:54.680 --> 00:26:00.019
people that have these situations that they have

00:26:00.019 --> 00:26:02.779
put themselves in or that have been orchestrated

00:26:02.779 --> 00:26:05.269
for them. That they're like, how are we going

00:26:05.269 --> 00:26:08.390
to get through this? And then by the end of the

00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:10.630
episode is like, OK, well, that's solved. Next

00:26:10.630 --> 00:26:12.569
thing, because that's that's not real. That's

00:26:12.569 --> 00:26:17.230
not how life works. Sure. And then, of course,

00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:23.329
all that stuff is used as a means to push everything

00:26:23.329 --> 00:26:29.200
else. That's that's. Going on with them like

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.200
they're they're using that to sell something

00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.440
and then all the social media stuff and then

00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.400
all the stuff you hear about from like auxiliary

00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.279
places like TMZ and and all this other garbage.

00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:46.200
And I just I don't like the I think I would say

00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:50.640
that my least favorite genre of reality TV show

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:54.900
is just the one that is about influencers influencing.

00:26:56.490 --> 00:26:58.890
Like the D 'Amelio show that they came out with

00:26:58.890 --> 00:27:01.750
back in, I think it was COVID times. Because

00:27:01.750 --> 00:27:03.670
that was when they were hitting their stride.

00:27:03.769 --> 00:27:07.150
The show with the Paul brothers. I forgot there

00:27:07.150 --> 00:27:11.269
was a show with them. The girl with what I think

00:27:11.269 --> 00:27:17.430
is fake Tourette's. I don't know that one. Yeah.

00:27:17.490 --> 00:27:20.069
She was on TikTok. I watched her for a little

00:27:20.069 --> 00:27:24.259
bit, but it wears thin real quick. Yeah. And

00:27:24.259 --> 00:27:28.240
then all the copycats of just the most outrageous,

00:27:28.339 --> 00:27:33.099
outrageous stuff that you want to say and claim

00:27:33.099 --> 00:27:38.539
it's Tourette's. TikTok reality is reality shows

00:27:38.539 --> 00:27:41.240
or reality snippets, whatever you want to call

00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.480
it, are are just as egregious as Keeping Up with

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.619
the Kardashians. For sure. And these fake personas

00:27:47.619 --> 00:27:51.890
and these these fake. that they have created

00:27:51.890 --> 00:27:55.910
for themselves in order to get the views. All

00:27:55.910 --> 00:27:59.109
right, uninstall TikTok again and all of my social

00:27:59.109 --> 00:28:02.349
medias and stuff because I was spending too much

00:28:02.349 --> 00:28:04.910
of my free time on them. I need notification

00:28:04.910 --> 00:28:08.009
about this stuff. Making me anxious. I only deleted

00:28:08.009 --> 00:28:10.130
it like two days ago, so this is your notification

00:28:10.130 --> 00:28:12.349
right now. When's the last time I sent you something?

00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:15.910
Let me check. I unfortunately have given up my

00:28:15.910 --> 00:28:19.150
viewing habits of chit for the greater good.

00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:24.420
All of the Hamilton recreations, which I do really

00:28:24.420 --> 00:28:30.319
love. You sent me, or last episode we talked

00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.619
about Ashby and her Lorax stuff. Now it's all

00:28:34.619 --> 00:28:37.160
I see. I watched one video and now it's just

00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.059
her as the Lorax everywhere. So thanks for that.

00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.420
I don't think that is my fault. I think she has

00:28:44.420 --> 00:28:47.420
just gotten really big really fast. I think she's

00:28:47.420 --> 00:28:49.849
on a lot of people's TikToks. Yeah, probably.

00:28:50.410 --> 00:28:53.049
She's talking about how she works at a PR firm

00:28:53.049 --> 00:28:55.329
and most people that she works with don't know

00:28:55.329 --> 00:29:00.089
about her secret life as the Lorax or as Alexander

00:29:00.089 --> 00:29:04.210
Hamilton. It's not even Alexander Hamilton. Every

00:29:04.210 --> 00:29:06.029
one of the people who does that challenge is

00:29:06.029 --> 00:29:08.650
Lin -Manuel Miranda. Yeah. Because they always

00:29:08.650 --> 00:29:11.809
have like the goatee and stuff. Just so funny

00:29:11.809 --> 00:29:14.250
to me. I mean, I think it's an easy one to pull

00:29:14.250 --> 00:29:18.269
off. It's the dark ponytail and it's the goatee.

00:29:18.329 --> 00:29:24.089
And boom, you're Hamilton. Yeah. I will be missing

00:29:24.089 --> 00:29:27.809
TikTok for sure. We'll see how long it lasts.

00:29:28.569 --> 00:29:30.869
Oh, for sure. I mean, it won't last forever,

00:29:31.069 --> 00:29:33.109
but it is a nice little vacation for my brain.

00:29:33.109 --> 00:29:36.410
Are you still swapping phones? Yeah. I go back

00:29:36.410 --> 00:29:38.069
and forth every once in a while so that I can

00:29:38.069 --> 00:29:41.890
like... force myself to have a little bit more

00:29:41.890 --> 00:29:45.650
time away from the technology. Unfortunately,

00:29:45.829 --> 00:29:48.170
the downside to the other phone is that it has

00:29:48.170 --> 00:29:51.250
even less signal and really bad battery life.

00:29:51.390 --> 00:29:54.190
So if I'm trying to be on a phone call, I have

00:29:54.190 --> 00:29:59.349
to switch it back to my smartphone. It's a give

00:29:59.349 --> 00:30:03.029
and take for sure. Well, if only you had that

00:30:03.029 --> 00:30:04.769
self -control just built in, you wouldn't need

00:30:04.769 --> 00:30:07.549
two phones. That's an absolute fact. You are

00:30:07.549 --> 00:30:11.009
correct. It's a work in progress to build it

00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:12.410
because it didn't come pre -installed. We all

00:30:12.410 --> 00:30:16.190
have our demons. It's fine. And my demon is Ashby's

00:30:16.190 --> 00:30:28.789
Lorax. I don't like the very... I know every

00:30:28.789 --> 00:30:32.690
reality show is scripted to a pretty serious

00:30:32.690 --> 00:30:35.930
extent, but I don't like the ones that feel...

00:30:36.809 --> 00:30:40.609
Like they're actually just dramas painting themselves

00:30:40.609 --> 00:30:44.609
as reality when they have not a shred of connection

00:30:44.609 --> 00:30:47.410
to actual reality. So in the same way as like

00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:49.769
Keeping Up with the Kardashians, I can't do Real

00:30:49.769 --> 00:30:53.430
Housewives of anything. I couldn't really do

00:30:53.430 --> 00:30:56.769
Below Deck. I wanted to like that show a lot

00:30:56.769 --> 00:31:00.109
more than I actually did, but I couldn't really

00:31:00.109 --> 00:31:03.349
get behind it. It felt just so, so scripted.

00:31:04.049 --> 00:31:07.480
Yeah. No, I think we should have brought Emily

00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.279
in on this one. She would be the contrarian.

00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.920
She watches Below Deck. She watches Keeping Up

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:20.140
with the Kardashians. Love on the Spectrum. Love

00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:25.859
is Blind. I don't think she, she doesn't watch

00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:33.319
The Bachelor or Bachelorette. Oh, what's that

00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:41.880
one? With the green card chasers. 90 Day Fiancé.

00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.599
90 Day Fiancé? Yeah. Yeah, she watches that one

00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.640
too. Yeah, no, she definitely should have been

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.980
a part of this episode. I mean, maybe we can

00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:55.500
do a little addendum in one of our future episodes.

00:31:55.779 --> 00:31:59.220
Yeah. She can defend the concept of reality TV.

00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:05.519
We'll do a VS. Does Nate like reality shows?

00:32:06.259 --> 00:32:10.059
No. Oh, okay. One of the very specific types

00:32:10.059 --> 00:32:11.680
of reality shows that I also have a little bit

00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:16.380
later on, which is body cams. He's a big fan

00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:22.460
of cops kind of shows. Which is understandable,

00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:27.880
but I can't do it. Did you know that a lot of

00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:32.099
the earlier cops episodes were filmed in Dallas?

00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:35.789
I didn't know that. Yeah, that's where most of

00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:39.210
it came from, was from Dallas. And the first

00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:43.430
48, the one about catching murderers in the first

00:32:43.430 --> 00:32:48.349
48 hours, a lot of that was filmed in Tulsa.

00:32:49.470 --> 00:32:55.990
Oh. Mm -hmm. Like, just a lot of missing people

00:32:55.990 --> 00:33:00.549
in Tulsa? No, just a lot of murder stuff. Did

00:33:00.549 --> 00:33:07.519
not know that. I like going back and... I mean,

00:33:07.539 --> 00:33:11.940
what's the line between documentary and reality?

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.059
Honestly, I draw the line usually at runtime.

00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.259
I imagine documentary is more to be like film

00:33:19.259 --> 00:33:22.700
length or at least like an hour long. Okay, so

00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:29.160
what about like a first 48 or a Dateline or something

00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.589
like that? Is that... or is that a documentary?

00:33:34.109 --> 00:33:36.710
Docu -series, and I will say that it is also

00:33:36.710 --> 00:33:41.150
classified as reality. Okay. Well, I mean, in

00:33:41.150 --> 00:33:44.690
that case, that would be my go -to as far as

00:33:44.690 --> 00:33:48.250
reality would be like true crime, something.

00:33:48.769 --> 00:33:52.130
I love going back and watching like old episodes

00:33:52.130 --> 00:33:59.519
of Dateline or Unsolved Mysteries or... First

00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.400
48. What's the because Dateline is NBC. What's

00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.740
what's the CBS version? I don't know. I don't

00:34:07.740 --> 00:34:09.480
remember what's going to say 60 minutes, but

00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.639
that's definitely wrong. No, that's that's news.

00:34:12.539 --> 00:34:16.000
But no, I'll go back and watch like early 2000s

00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.219
true crime stuff. And mostly because I like going

00:34:20.219 --> 00:34:23.659
back and seeing if there was any like changes

00:34:23.659 --> 00:34:26.090
in the case or like where they are now. which

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:29.429
obviously you can't do with recent stuff. Sure.

00:34:29.849 --> 00:34:32.309
Have you found any with happy endings since their

00:34:32.309 --> 00:34:36.550
episode aired? I mean, happy -ish. Like, did

00:34:36.550 --> 00:34:40.090
they catch the person who did the things? Well,

00:34:40.150 --> 00:34:44.530
it depends on... So, I mean, if you're like...

00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:46.030
If I'm looking for, like, what the resolution

00:34:46.030 --> 00:34:48.130
was, then that'll probably be from, like, an

00:34:48.130 --> 00:34:50.769
Unsolved Mysteries thing, because most of the

00:34:50.769 --> 00:34:54.389
datelines and all those stuff, they're all wrapped

00:34:54.389 --> 00:35:00.440
up. The Unsolved Mystery ones, I will go check.

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:02.519
If they don't have an update at the end of the

00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.420
episode, then I'll look into it and see if there's

00:35:07.420 --> 00:35:11.219
been any update to it. My son loves Unsolved

00:35:11.219 --> 00:35:15.039
Mysteries. Middle child. Not a fan. She doesn't

00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.500
like the blue balls. She doesn't like the cliffhanger

00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:25.019
-ness of... The unsolved part of it? Yeah. Yeah,

00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.179
that's not her bag. And, like, usually... But

00:35:28.179 --> 00:35:30.960
you get to speculate wildly. Usually the unsolved

00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:36.400
mystery ones are tame enough where they can watch

00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:37.960
it and it's not going to be an issue. I don't

00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.059
have to explain too many things about the evils

00:35:42.059 --> 00:35:46.139
of this world to them. But if I'm, like, watching

00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:49.159
Dateline or something, those are the ones she's

00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:50.699
more involved in, but definitely not the ones

00:35:50.699 --> 00:35:55.550
she should be watching. So, I don't know. I don't

00:35:55.550 --> 00:35:57.289
know that I've ever watched Unsolved Mysteries.

00:35:57.329 --> 00:36:00.610
I've definitely seen Dateline. I had a phase

00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:02.090
for a little while where I would be watching

00:36:02.090 --> 00:36:05.849
it when I still lived with Mom. Watching Datelines

00:36:05.849 --> 00:36:08.989
and stuff. No. I don't think I ever watched Unsolved

00:36:08.989 --> 00:36:12.010
Mysteries. You should check it out. It's on...

00:36:12.010 --> 00:36:15.949
I mean, all the episodes, I think all of them

00:36:15.949 --> 00:36:18.489
are uploaded onto YouTube. And you have premium,

00:36:18.630 --> 00:36:21.369
right? Yeah. Yeah, so you can blow right through

00:36:21.369 --> 00:36:24.489
them. Okay. Robert Stack. There's 12 seasons.

00:36:25.170 --> 00:36:29.230
Yep. Robert Stack and then Dennis Farina. Because

00:36:29.230 --> 00:36:30.670
I think it took a little break and then it came

00:36:30.670 --> 00:36:33.210
back with Dennis Farina. Or Robert Stack just

00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:36.670
retired and then Dennis Farina took over. Robert

00:36:36.670 --> 00:36:38.929
Stack died. That popped up when I was looking

00:36:38.929 --> 00:36:41.030
up Unsolved Mysteries. The top part of the thing

00:36:41.030 --> 00:36:42.889
was that it got switched out because Robert Stack

00:36:42.889 --> 00:36:46.030
died in 03. He died during, like, while it was

00:36:46.030 --> 00:36:50.130
in the, during the run? I think so. Oh. Okay.

00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:52.150
Well, there you go. I don't know. I don't know

00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:54.329
what the longevity of the show was. I've been

00:36:54.329 --> 00:36:57.730
to his, uh, I've been to his grave. Or his, uh,

00:36:57.809 --> 00:37:00.190
what is it called when it's just like a, huh?

00:37:00.929 --> 00:37:04.530
Mausoleum? No, it's, it's like where they have

00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:07.510
your ashes on display. That's not a mausoleum?

00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:11.769
Uh, no, I think it was, I think they were like

00:37:11.769 --> 00:37:15.119
in a, I may be mixing them up. with someone else

00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:16.639
that I saw there. But I think that it was like

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.800
in a glass display and it had like some memorabilia

00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.320
from him and then it had his like an urn with

00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.659
some of his ashes in it. That maybe makes it

00:37:23.659 --> 00:37:26.559
end up with someone else. But we still got to

00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:31.079
plan our LA cemetery tour. Do you think that

00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.059
would be an interesting trip? Trevor Moore has

00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:35.420
been in conversation a lot lately. Don't you

00:37:35.420 --> 00:37:38.880
have your thingamabob? Your pass that you haven't

00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.179
used? I do, yeah. And I think it goes from...

00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.639
Austin to LA? Yeah. I'll have to double check.

00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.039
I'm not sure on that, but yeah, I'm down. I have

00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.639
it until April, I think, of next year. April?

00:37:54.780 --> 00:37:58.199
Okay. We'll figure something out. Do you want

00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.840
to hazard any guesses towards the top five longest

00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.559
running reality shows? Okay. I mean, didn't you

00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.320
say Real World was the longest? No. They won

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.179
a Guinness record for it, but that was back in

00:38:12.179 --> 00:38:15.400
03. And it's been surpassed enough times that

00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.880
it's not even in the top five. Oh, okay. How

00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.679
many of them are game shows? I did not consider

00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.099
game shows in this part of the... Oh, okay. In

00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:26.880
this episode. Okay. So what I have right now...

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:30.940
Yes. That is number four. Four. It's the fourth

00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:35.119
longest running with 20 seasons. It started in

00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:39.099
2007. Hmm. All but one of them have already been

00:38:39.099 --> 00:38:41.940
mentioned in this episode. And this is not...

00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.440
Not game shows, not competition. Well, they are

00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.420
competition shows, some of them. They are competitions?

00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.699
Some of them. But they aren't game shows, necessarily.

00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.719
Not in the Price is Right sense. The Bachelor

00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.940
is number five. The Bachelorette? No. Oh. The

00:39:00.940 --> 00:39:03.119
Bachelor also has 20 seasons. Men win again.

00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.619
I think The Bachelorette is probably in the top

00:39:05.619 --> 00:39:08.980
ten, but not in the top five. Hmm. Okay, so we

00:39:08.980 --> 00:39:10.760
have Keeping Up with the Kardashians. We have

00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:17.500
The Bachelor. We have... You have two competition

00:39:17.500 --> 00:39:23.519
shows and one not competition show. Survivor.

00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:27.460
That is number one with 46 seasons since the

00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:32.039
year 2000. Which is absolute insanity. Has more

00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:34.000
seasons than The Voice, which I'm pretty sure

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.659
is at like their 100th season at this point.

00:39:36.260 --> 00:39:43.219
Okay. Amazing Race. Nope. Didn't crack the top

00:39:43.219 --> 00:39:47.980
five. No. Big Brother. Big Brother is number

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:51.539
three. Started in 2000 and is at their 25th season.

00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.539
So now we're just missing number two? You're

00:39:54.539 --> 00:40:00.320
just missing number two. No number two. This

00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:05.360
list is constipated. Who do you work for? Show

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:12.840
that turd who's boss. I don't know. Can I get

00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.539
a hint? It's featured in not one, but two episodes

00:40:16.539 --> 00:40:21.659
of My Name is Earl. Cops. That is number two.

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:26.280
Started in 1989 and they are on their 37th season.

00:40:27.260 --> 00:40:31.860
Huh. Still going. Still going. I had to double

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:33.500
check that one because I definitely did not think

00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:36.360
they were still making cops. In like the same

00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.210
format and everything? I think so. More or less,

00:40:39.210 --> 00:40:41.050
at least. It's more of like the body cam stuff

00:40:41.050 --> 00:40:45.590
and not the person with the giant camera. Those

00:40:45.590 --> 00:40:48.449
were the best. There's no Kevins in this one,

00:40:48.469 --> 00:40:51.550
from what I understand. Again, the shootout and

00:40:51.550 --> 00:40:54.610
the cops like, get out, get out, get out. And

00:40:54.610 --> 00:40:55.690
then the camera guy just like... Whatever they

00:40:55.690 --> 00:40:58.150
were paying that camera person, not enough. Peeks

00:40:58.150 --> 00:41:00.829
his head over the car. Bullet goes whizzing by.

00:41:02.070 --> 00:41:06.690
Greatness. I didn't think that cops was still

00:41:06.690 --> 00:41:09.289
around. Not in the same iteration, especially

00:41:09.289 --> 00:41:14.750
with all the cop issues that have been pervasive

00:41:14.750 --> 00:41:18.829
in the world lately. It seems like that would

00:41:18.829 --> 00:41:21.289
be something that would be real easy to nix.

00:41:21.869 --> 00:41:25.250
Is it still on Fox? Or is it just some stream

00:41:25.250 --> 00:41:29.030
service now? If I remember correctly, it got

00:41:29.030 --> 00:41:31.010
dropped and then it got picked back up by Fox.

00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.860
Isn't Fox where it started? I think it maybe

00:41:34.860 --> 00:41:37.539
went somewhere else in the same way that every

00:41:37.539 --> 00:41:40.360
animated sitcom has gone to a different station

00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.460
and then come back around to something else.

00:41:43.940 --> 00:41:46.139
Speaking of animations coming back around, have

00:41:46.139 --> 00:41:49.420
you watched the new King of the Hill? I've seen

00:41:49.420 --> 00:41:51.880
the first two episodes. I haven't seen a ton

00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:56.639
of it yet. What'd you think? I really like it.

00:41:56.900 --> 00:42:00.019
You liked it? It's not a situation where it just

00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:02.880
should have died? Don't get me wrong, I still

00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.480
very much think that it should have died. I think

00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:10.360
what they did with it is still good TV, but I

00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:14.380
think that they had their run, and I would have

00:42:14.380 --> 00:42:18.519
been totally fine with not having season 14.

00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.280
I don't remember which season it would be. I

00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.400
think season 14. We haven't watched it yet. We

00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.440
haven't set aside the time yet. There are 1 ,100

00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:34.429
episodes of Cops. Huh. And the most recent episode,

00:42:34.630 --> 00:42:39.510
season 37, episode 36, premiered July 25th of

00:42:39.510 --> 00:42:46.929
2025. Huh. Does it say where they are? Stolen

00:42:46.929 --> 00:42:49.690
motorcycle leads deputies up a mountain. They're

00:42:49.690 --> 00:42:52.170
somewhere in the mountains. Oh, so not in Dallas.

00:42:53.429 --> 00:42:58.130
They filmed in Iowa, Polk County in Iowa this

00:42:58.130 --> 00:43:01.719
year. Huh. It has been canceled and revived multiple

00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.780
times. It's currently airing on Fox Nation. Oh,

00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.099
so yeah, it's like on a sister station now. What

00:43:10.099 --> 00:43:15.480
the hell is Cops Reloaded? Never mind. I don't

00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.519
need to know. It's on Peacock, whatever it is.

00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:23.199
Maybe rework that name. I don't think that I've

00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.179
ever seen... I've never watched Survivor. I've

00:43:28.179 --> 00:43:31.230
seen... Clips of cops. I've seen more parodies,

00:43:31.250 --> 00:43:32.889
I think, of cops than I've seen actual episodes.

00:43:34.909 --> 00:43:38.570
In the Shrek 2 and My Name is Earl kind of way.

00:43:39.050 --> 00:43:43.969
What about Reno 911? Or Reno 911. I have seen

00:43:43.969 --> 00:43:48.309
that too. Didn't watch Big Brother. Don't care

00:43:48.309 --> 00:43:51.110
to see what the Kardashians are doing these days.

00:43:52.530 --> 00:43:57.110
And I've seen probably two episodes of The Bachelor.

00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:03.360
I've always thought that I would be good on Big

00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:07.300
Brother. Yeah? Yeah. You'd be good at manipulating

00:44:07.300 --> 00:44:14.239
people? I think so, yeah. I think I worm my way

00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:19.320
into your heart real quick and then boom. Just

00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:27.159
stab it right up. Love to hear that. I mean,

00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:29.650
it's... I mean, it's not my fault I'm so charming.

00:44:30.309 --> 00:44:37.210
This is true. It's God's fault. Yep. So looking

00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:44.289
at, I was looking for the CBS version of Dateline.

00:44:44.650 --> 00:44:54.269
And there is a list of their, what they consider

00:44:54.269 --> 00:44:58.869
reality shows. You have Ridiculousness, which

00:44:58.869 --> 00:45:04.130
I wouldn't consider that reality. Tosh .0 is

00:45:04.130 --> 00:45:07.369
on here too. Definitely wouldn't consider either

00:45:07.369 --> 00:45:12.030
of those reality TV. Survivor, Ink Master, Bar

00:45:12.030 --> 00:45:16.829
Rescue, Amazing Race, Big Brother, The Summit.

00:45:18.349 --> 00:45:26.150
Sounds familiar. I feel like this. I love a cooking

00:45:26.150 --> 00:45:28.550
competition show. They are my absolute favorite.

00:45:29.670 --> 00:45:33.309
Cutthroat Kitchen and Chopped are so fun to watch.

00:45:33.690 --> 00:45:41.309
Yeah. Jersey Shore. Jackass. RuPaul. Another

00:45:41.309 --> 00:45:45.670
Jersey Shore. Wild Boys. Did you ever watch that?

00:45:46.630 --> 00:45:49.010
I didn't, but it's been recommended to me a couple

00:45:49.010 --> 00:45:55.710
times. That's a bam, right? No, it's Chris Pontius

00:45:55.710 --> 00:46:05.949
and Steve -O. Oh, okay. Or the Wild Boys. Rob

00:46:05.949 --> 00:46:10.329
Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory. Okay. Were you ever

00:46:10.329 --> 00:46:17.690
a Teen Mom fan? No. 16 and pregnant? No, I was

00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:20.429
never an MTV reality show person. No? I couldn't

00:46:20.429 --> 00:46:25.469
do any of that stuff. One of the it was like

00:46:25.469 --> 00:46:28.869
people would write into them with like an issue

00:46:28.869 --> 00:46:31.530
they were having. It was like a fix my life type

00:46:31.530 --> 00:46:34.130
of situation. I don't remember what the show

00:46:34.130 --> 00:46:37.409
was called, but it was on MTV. They came to my

00:46:37.409 --> 00:46:42.630
high school to film a kid in my grade who was

00:46:42.630 --> 00:46:47.409
struggling, losing weight. And so they they filmed.

00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.000
I don't remember how long it was, but MTV came

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.880
to my high school to do some filming. I don't

00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.119
remember what the show was called. I should look

00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.300
that up. Give him a shout out. His name's Trevor

00:47:04.300 --> 00:47:07.519
something. I don't know. I've been out of high

00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:11.420
school for a long time. Yeah. Getting up there.

00:47:12.139 --> 00:47:16.440
Yeah. That actually reminds me of the reason

00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.059
that I picked this episode for today. And that's

00:47:19.059 --> 00:47:21.599
because they just released a documentary on The

00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.940
Biggest Loser, which is also one of the most

00:47:23.940 --> 00:47:28.019
well -known, I think, reality competition shows.

00:47:28.820 --> 00:47:32.599
That has notoriously worked out very poorly for

00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:38.119
the winners of it. What kind of issues? Is that

00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:41.179
one of the ones that would have them cheat and

00:47:41.179 --> 00:47:45.760
just get them lipo? Stuff like that? So, from

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.050
what I understand... I haven't watched the documentary

00:47:48.050 --> 00:47:49.849
just yet because it came out on Netflix, and

00:47:49.849 --> 00:47:51.929
I am not, unfortunately, a part of the household

00:47:51.929 --> 00:47:57.989
that has Netflix. But you could be. I could be,

00:47:58.130 --> 00:48:01.170
but nothing. Unless there's any feds watching,

00:48:01.329 --> 00:48:04.690
in which case, definitely not. No way, Jose.

00:48:05.530 --> 00:48:08.889
From what I understand, the big issue with The

00:48:08.889 --> 00:48:12.710
Biggest Loser was that it was a competition show,

00:48:12.849 --> 00:48:15.849
and so their priority was to get you to lose

00:48:15.849 --> 00:48:20.199
weight. fast you can't get you can't lose weight

00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:24.179
fast and sustainably really because realistically

00:48:24.179 --> 00:48:26.659
like the quickest way to lose weight don't eat

00:48:26.659 --> 00:48:29.699
anything and work out until you're about to destroy

00:48:29.699 --> 00:48:32.699
yourself and so they were going to this point

00:48:32.699 --> 00:48:36.179
where like the one of the big people involved

00:48:36.179 --> 00:48:39.480
in this documentary is a winner who I want to

00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:41.940
say he lost like 240 pounds in the span of the

00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:47.010
show and has gained every ounce of it back since

00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:48.789
it wrapped. And it's because what they were doing

00:48:48.789 --> 00:48:53.449
was not, it was not built for positive habits.

00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:55.690
It wasn't built to actually help these people

00:48:55.690 --> 00:48:58.170
who are clearly struggling. Like they reached

00:48:58.170 --> 00:49:00.650
out so that they could lead what their iteration

00:49:00.650 --> 00:49:05.130
of a better life was. And it used and abused

00:49:05.130 --> 00:49:06.710
them. And then once they were done, there was

00:49:06.710 --> 00:49:10.429
no follow -up, no way for them to maintain that

00:49:10.429 --> 00:49:14.130
kind of weight loss. Yeah, I mean, that's the

00:49:14.130 --> 00:49:19.010
same issue that people have with stuff like Ozempic

00:49:19.010 --> 00:49:27.630
and stuff like solutions like that is that it

00:49:27.630 --> 00:49:32.530
curbs your appetite. It does what you need it

00:49:32.530 --> 00:49:36.670
to do then. But then when that's no longer available

00:49:36.670 --> 00:49:43.989
to you, you don't have those. those habits in

00:49:43.989 --> 00:49:46.570
place so you just fall back into your old ways

00:49:46.570 --> 00:49:50.829
and then all of it, you start up right back where

00:49:50.829 --> 00:49:55.789
you were. Yeah. But I feel like there was a show

00:49:55.789 --> 00:50:02.409
that I watched that it might have been, it might

00:50:02.409 --> 00:50:06.570
have been like Extreme Makeover where they put

00:50:06.570 --> 00:50:10.429
them on this plan and then whenever they got

00:50:10.429 --> 00:50:13.199
to The time where it was supposed to be like

00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.980
the results. The results weren't there. And so

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:19.460
they resorted to like lipo and stuff like that.

00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.800
I feel like I've heard that. It definitely seems

00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.739
like something a reality show would do. To fudge

00:50:29.739 --> 00:50:33.679
the numbers. The show went on for 18 seasons.

00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.039
You remember a couple episodes back when we were

00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:41.840
talking about the song Chicken Fried? Yes. I

00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.639
can hear it playing at the pool right now. Oh,

00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.820
yeah? Someone downstairs is listening to Chicken

00:50:47.820 --> 00:50:52.300
Fried right now. No way. Zach Brown, if you're

00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:55.079
listening, you're coming to my area soon. I'd

00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.219
love to get some tickets to sit down and talk

00:50:58.219 --> 00:51:02.199
that album with you and see which aspects are

00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.940
about chickens and which aren't. Clear the air.

00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.139
Yeah. Clear the coop. Set the record straight.

00:51:10.889 --> 00:51:13.090
Trevor Russell. That was his name. Trevor Russell.

00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:16.190
Okay. Still cannot find the name of that show.

00:51:17.909 --> 00:51:24.369
MTV has had so many reality shows, especially

00:51:24.369 --> 00:51:28.969
for a channel called Music Television. They had

00:51:28.969 --> 00:51:33.329
a show in 1997 called Adult Videos. That sounds

00:51:33.329 --> 00:51:39.070
a little concerning. You want to know some just...

00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:42.219
really out -of -pocket early 2000s reality shows

00:51:42.219 --> 00:51:47.159
that I think would be a fun watch. So, outside

00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.320
of Sexy Beasts, which is the furry show I mentioned

00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:56.539
earlier, no thank you, there is the poorly aged,

00:51:56.699 --> 00:52:00.239
to put it mildly, Bridalplasty. That ran for

00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.099
one season in 2010, where brides competed for

00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:05.219
the chance to win not only the wedding of their

00:52:05.219 --> 00:52:08.670
dreams, but also the fulfillment of their Plastic

00:52:08.670 --> 00:52:15.369
Surgery Wishlist. Huh. That's nice. This is not

00:52:15.369 --> 00:52:19.329
one of the ones that is necessarily widely known

00:52:19.329 --> 00:52:24.090
as a super, super out there one because it had

00:52:24.090 --> 00:52:26.989
a good size cultural impact, but Fear Factor.

00:52:28.170 --> 00:52:31.570
That was on for six seasons starting in 2001

00:52:31.570 --> 00:52:38.030
and included such challenges. If you are squeamish

00:52:38.030 --> 00:52:41.030
or a reasonable human being, maybe tune out for

00:52:41.030 --> 00:52:44.809
the next 30 seconds. They included such challenges

00:52:44.809 --> 00:52:47.909
as eating horse rectums, drinking donkey semen,

00:52:47.969 --> 00:52:52.070
and drinking blended rats. One of the big reasons

00:52:52.070 --> 00:52:54.630
that it got canceled was because there was a

00:52:54.630 --> 00:52:59.789
lot of animal abuse outcry. You don't say. Can't

00:52:59.789 --> 00:53:03.750
imagine why. Was that always hosted by Joe Rogan?

00:53:04.170 --> 00:53:10.559
I believe so, yeah. How many people born, I don't

00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.500
know, post 2004, so 21 -year -olds right now,

00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.599
realize that Joe Rogan had a career before podcasting?

00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.099
I mean, I can't imagine many of them, and a lot

00:53:23.099 --> 00:53:25.480
of that is because of how drastically different

00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.800
he looks. Because he's gained, he's doubled in

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:33.780
size. Yeah. He's bald, like he's got... He's

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:35.980
got a very different vibe about him than he had

00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:43.260
on news radio and Fear Factor. Yeah, he was on

00:53:43.260 --> 00:53:48.539
a show with Phil Hartman. RIP. What a wild trajectory

00:53:48.539 --> 00:53:55.159
he's had. He found his niche. He did. One of

00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:58.099
the other ones that I think would be a fun thing

00:53:58.099 --> 00:54:02.809
to watch, if we ever did a... A live like commentary

00:54:02.809 --> 00:54:06.769
kind of podcast playing it straight. It's a dating

00:54:06.769 --> 00:54:11.789
show where. I want to say all but one of the.

00:54:13.329 --> 00:54:15.489
All but one of them are either gay or straight

00:54:15.489 --> 00:54:19.150
of the dudes. And she's trying to find the one

00:54:19.150 --> 00:54:22.329
straight guy. Yeah. And if you guessed if she

00:54:22.329 --> 00:54:26.190
guessed right, then they would split it. If she

00:54:26.190 --> 00:54:29.510
guessed wrong. then the guy would get all those

00:54:29.510 --> 00:54:30.989
like a hundred thousand or something like that.

00:54:31.789 --> 00:54:34.250
The most incredible thing. I watched the first

00:54:34.250 --> 00:54:40.610
episode of that a little while ago and she thought

00:54:40.610 --> 00:54:43.769
one of the guys was, this is painfully like 2006

00:54:43.769 --> 00:54:48.289
probably. One of the guys she was absolutely

00:54:48.289 --> 00:54:51.289
convinced was gay because he had a hairdryer.

00:54:52.570 --> 00:54:54.710
She was complaining about hers being broken and

00:54:54.710 --> 00:54:57.579
he offered her his. And she thought that meant

00:54:57.579 --> 00:55:02.019
that he was gay. Incredible. Where the bar was

00:55:02.019 --> 00:55:08.079
set. To be fair, Nate doesn't own a hair dryer,

00:55:08.219 --> 00:55:14.500
so I guess that's not a typical male thing. I

00:55:14.500 --> 00:55:17.539
don't know. I've only lived with one of them

00:55:17.539 --> 00:55:24.739
since I left home. What about... I think there

00:55:24.739 --> 00:55:28.539
was Joe Millionaire. I liked Joe Millionaire.

00:55:29.099 --> 00:55:30.920
The dating show. Oh, it's the newer one, not

00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.599
the older one. Were they all millionaires or

00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.199
one was a millionaire? So one of the things that

00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.179
kind of annoyed me about the show was that one

00:55:39.179 --> 00:55:40.679
of them was a millionaire and the other one was

00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:42.480
just like really high in the hundred thousands.

00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.960
Yeah. So he was still like loaded. So it's not

00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.719
like you were dealing with Bill Gates and the

00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.480
guy that lives outside my apartment complex.

00:55:54.780 --> 00:56:00.119
Well, is that the there's one. Like one of those

00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.219
types of dating shows, like the off brand, like

00:56:03.219 --> 00:56:09.940
Bachelorette type where a guy was on it. Lost

00:56:09.940 --> 00:56:14.159
his shit. Like start like when after like attacking

00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:17.400
people got kicked off the show and then like

00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:23.199
a year later murdered his girlfriend. And I want

00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:28.119
to say Vegas. That sounds familiar. That sounds

00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:29.639
familiar, but I'm not sure who you're talking

00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:35.139
about. There's a YouTuber that I follow who does

00:56:35.139 --> 00:56:37.199
commentary videos every once in a while on reality

00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:41.380
TV. And one of the ones he did recently was True

00:56:41.380 --> 00:56:44.940
Beauty, which was another early 2000s show. But

00:56:44.940 --> 00:56:49.519
it's talking about these 10 super attractive

00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.440
people trying to... buy for a spot on People's

00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:59.280
Top 100 Hottest People. And the surprise plot

00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.159
twist in the show is that they're actually judging

00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:05.320
not only physical attractiveness, but their actual

00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:10.980
inner beauty. And they set these people up with,

00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:16.480
in the last episode, there was a stuntman that

00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:19.880
just eats it. outside of a building that the

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.659
uh the models are going into and they judge these

00:57:23.659 --> 00:57:25.920
people based on the hidden camera footage of

00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:28.860
whether or not they held this dude who just bit

00:57:28.860 --> 00:57:33.699
the curb one of them did and one of them didn't

00:57:33.699 --> 00:57:35.719
and it was the deal breaker and the reason that

00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.079
this girl went home was because she just like

00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.800
looked at this dude with disdain for falling

00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:47.119
over his bicycle okay here we go It was the show

00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:52.820
Megan Wants a Millionaire. Okay. In 2009, Jenkins

00:57:52.820 --> 00:57:54.840
was identified as the suspect in the murder of

00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.119
his ex -wife, model Jasmine Fiore, whose mutilated

00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.860
body was found in a suitcase in California. It

00:58:02.860 --> 00:58:07.559
was VH1. Megan Wants a Millionaire. Oh, my God.

00:58:07.780 --> 00:58:10.800
And I don't even think that the whole thing ended

00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.920
up airing because they pulled it. But no, he

00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:23.239
was kicked off the show for violent outbursts.

00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:25.840
And then I think it was like a year later is

00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:34.539
when he got caught. Yeah. That is interesting.

00:58:36.059 --> 00:58:43.960
One thing that I will say is Emily watches shows

00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:53.320
like Life After Lockup. I do generally like the

00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:59.000
shows in that vein that show that maybe show

00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.559
a side of society that people don't really pay

00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:03.860
attention to or people kind of shove off to the

00:59:03.860 --> 00:59:06.260
side and see that these people like they realize

00:59:06.260 --> 00:59:10.269
that they've made mistakes. And they are trying

00:59:10.269 --> 00:59:13.269
to live their best life despite those mistakes

00:59:13.269 --> 00:59:15.510
and trying to overcome them. I do like those

00:59:15.510 --> 00:59:19.610
shows. That being said, that there is the stink

00:59:19.610 --> 00:59:23.150
of reality show on it where they're in like throuples

00:59:23.150 --> 00:59:28.090
and their love triangles and all this other stuff.

00:59:28.170 --> 00:59:30.969
He's got this woman on the outside, but then

00:59:30.969 --> 00:59:33.849
he's got this boyfriend on the inside or just

00:59:33.849 --> 00:59:36.929
that kind of stuff. Not a big fan of that part.

00:59:37.420 --> 00:59:43.760
But I do like the I don't know, like the just

00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.000
the snippets that you get of people's actual

00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:49.820
lives and just trying to make the best of the

00:59:49.820 --> 00:59:52.860
situation that they're in, which I think is what

00:59:52.860 --> 00:59:58.539
most reality shows should aim for. But those

00:59:58.539 --> 01:00:03.460
genuine moments aren't probably aren't prevalent

01:00:03.460 --> 01:00:06.949
enough. for you to be able to sustain a show

01:00:06.949 --> 01:00:10.929
and keep people engaged in it. So I get the aspect

01:00:10.929 --> 01:00:14.889
that everything has to be this circus, but I

01:00:14.889 --> 01:00:22.050
do think that you can get some genuine bits of

01:00:22.050 --> 01:00:28.170
life out of these reality shows, especially the

01:00:28.170 --> 01:00:33.650
ones that maybe... Give you a glimpse into a

01:00:33.650 --> 01:00:38.630
not so glamorous life. Sure. I mean, what do

01:00:38.630 --> 01:00:43.130
you think is the biggest takeaway from reality

01:00:43.130 --> 01:00:46.130
shows? Like, what do you think is the most positive

01:00:46.130 --> 01:00:48.190
takeaway and what's the most negative takeaway?

01:00:49.250 --> 01:00:54.710
I think the most positive takeaways are from

01:00:54.710 --> 01:01:00.159
shows. I don't know if it's the most positive

01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.420
takeaway from a show like Love on the Spectrum,

01:01:02.539 --> 01:01:05.500
but the most positive takeaway I think from a

01:01:05.500 --> 01:01:09.199
lot of these reality shows should be that what

01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:10.739
you're talking about with Life After Lockup,

01:01:10.820 --> 01:01:15.179
that it's this section of society that you might

01:01:15.179 --> 01:01:17.480
have these preconceived notions about that you

01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.659
don't necessarily think about all that often,

01:01:21.780 --> 01:01:23.840
and so they just fit into these neat and tidy

01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.239
boxes when in reality they're actual human beings.

01:01:27.940 --> 01:01:31.420
Yeah. who have just as diverse of a life as you

01:01:31.420 --> 01:01:36.579
do. And so it's, I think that's the benefit of

01:01:36.579 --> 01:01:41.900
reality shows. But the flip side of that is that

01:01:41.900 --> 01:01:48.199
it is also a breeding ground for more hate and

01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.659
misinformation and just like all kinds of exploitation.

01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.360
That like, yeah, exploitation, the vitriolic.

01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:59.190
It's just, it's not. more often than not done

01:01:59.190 --> 01:02:03.690
in a way that's tactful. Like with The Biggest

01:02:03.690 --> 01:02:08.130
Loser, I think a lot of the thing with The Biggest

01:02:08.130 --> 01:02:09.949
Loser on its face is that it's supposed to be

01:02:09.949 --> 01:02:13.889
this empowering thing. You too can lose all of

01:02:13.889 --> 01:02:15.670
this weight if you're determined and you have

01:02:15.670 --> 01:02:19.289
X amount of time or this much dedication, whatever.

01:02:20.269 --> 01:02:22.429
But at the same time, it's also a breeding ground

01:02:22.429 --> 01:02:29.219
for that kind of it. It also kind of promotes

01:02:29.219 --> 01:02:31.219
the idea that like, oh, if I can do it, then

01:02:31.219 --> 01:02:33.300
so can you. So there's no reason that you should

01:02:33.300 --> 01:02:38.360
be fat. But also, I don't have Jillian Michaels

01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:42.179
on my team. I can't afford any of the dieticians.

01:02:42.179 --> 01:02:44.860
I can't go on with my day -to -day probably if

01:02:44.860 --> 01:02:47.059
I'm not eating. I'm taking caffeine pills and

01:02:47.059 --> 01:02:51.920
I'm working out 24 -7. That's just not sustainable

01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:57.300
or achievable. Yeah. And I think that especially

01:02:57.300 --> 01:02:59.519
shows like the biggest loser show their hand

01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:03.599
right in the title. Yeah. Like the biggest loser.

01:03:03.940 --> 01:03:08.599
It draws in the kind of people that probably

01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:14.099
I think in their in their estimation have done

01:03:14.099 --> 01:03:17.460
everything that they can conceive of on their

01:03:17.460 --> 01:03:21.199
own in order to get to get their body, get their

01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:23.679
mind, get their life to the point that they want

01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.619
it to be. And the producers of these shows know

01:03:26.619 --> 01:03:29.780
that. And so whenever these people come to them

01:03:29.780 --> 01:03:33.179
and say, hey, I want to audition to be on The

01:03:33.179 --> 01:03:35.539
Biggest Loser, they know that these people are

01:03:35.539 --> 01:03:38.420
making it like a Hail Mary and like this is last

01:03:38.420 --> 01:03:40.840
last ditch effort. And they know that these people

01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.739
will probably do whatever they throw their way.

01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.900
Right. Like they say, hey, you want to get here?

01:03:47.980 --> 01:03:50.500
This is what you got to do. You got to do this.

01:03:50.500 --> 01:03:52.119
You got to do that. You got to do this. You got

01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:53.780
to do that. I don't care how embarrassing it

01:03:53.780 --> 01:03:56.800
is for you. Do you want to be the you that you

01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:58.840
think you should be? Then you got to do this.

01:03:59.179 --> 01:04:00.960
And then that's where the exploitation comes

01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:06.079
in. And that's where the people sign up to be

01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:10.260
the biggest loser because the title of the show

01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:15.500
works on both ends. At the end, it's it's the

01:04:15.500 --> 01:04:20.179
you lost the most weight. You are literally the

01:04:20.179 --> 01:04:22.860
biggest loser of weight. But then in the beginning,

01:04:22.980 --> 01:04:25.139
it's like you are such a loser. You're the world's

01:04:25.139 --> 01:04:27.119
biggest loser that you had to come on a show

01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:31.699
to have your entire life put out there for everyone

01:04:31.699 --> 01:04:34.679
to see all of your mistakes, all of your bad

01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:38.000
habits, all of that, just for the glimmer of

01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:41.199
hope that maybe you can change something in your

01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:44.780
life. And then these people, whether it works

01:04:44.780 --> 01:04:47.420
out for them or not. At the end of the day, if

01:04:47.420 --> 01:04:51.659
they don't wholeheartedly believe it, then it's

01:04:51.659 --> 01:04:54.079
it's all for nothing. It's all a temporary patch

01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:58.699
on a sustained problem. Yeah. And that's that's

01:04:58.699 --> 01:05:00.980
an issue. That's just part of being a human.

01:05:01.659 --> 01:05:05.480
Is that if I mean, this this is something that

01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:08.199
I have struggled with and something I have dealt

01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.300
with in my life. Just personally, I didn't need

01:05:11.300 --> 01:05:15.789
to go on a TV show for it, but. It's the fact

01:05:15.789 --> 01:05:21.530
that if you don't believe in the change, if you

01:05:21.530 --> 01:05:25.510
don't do the steps on your own to make the changes

01:05:25.510 --> 01:05:27.849
happen, then nothing's ever going to change.

01:05:27.889 --> 01:05:29.349
You're going to fall right back into those bad

01:05:29.349 --> 01:05:34.230
habits. Right, yeah. And so the whole biggest

01:05:34.230 --> 01:05:39.670
loser stuff is just, it's the patch. It's these

01:05:39.670 --> 01:05:44.289
people saying, I give up. Tell me what I need

01:05:44.289 --> 01:05:46.090
to do to get here. It's not the people actually

01:05:46.090 --> 01:05:48.449
actually coming to terms with it on their own

01:05:48.449 --> 01:05:50.969
that, hey, this is what I need to do to get to

01:05:50.969 --> 01:05:53.610
where I need to be. And so I need to create a

01:05:53.610 --> 01:05:57.230
sustained program for myself in order to get

01:05:57.230 --> 01:06:03.010
there. It's I died. I'm at a loss. So fix this

01:06:03.010 --> 01:06:06.090
for me. But other people can't fix it. You got

01:06:06.090 --> 01:06:10.130
to fix it yourself. Yeah, I think. I would be

01:06:10.130 --> 01:06:11.849
really interested. Like I said, I've never seen

01:06:11.849 --> 01:06:14.150
the show Hoarders, so I don't actually know what

01:06:14.150 --> 01:06:19.809
kind of tact that they hopefully do the cleanup

01:06:19.809 --> 01:06:22.369
and things with. But I would be really curious

01:06:22.369 --> 01:06:26.750
to know if in the aftermath of hoarding cleanup,

01:06:26.989 --> 01:06:30.329
those people are actually sustaining the cleanliness

01:06:30.329 --> 01:06:33.130
or if it's just... Because you have to imagine,

01:06:33.289 --> 01:06:35.909
especially with a thing like hoarding, that...

01:06:36.759 --> 01:06:39.099
it's a thing that if you are not willing to change

01:06:39.099 --> 01:06:41.400
for yourself in the same way that like the weight

01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:43.340
loss thing would be, you're not willing to change

01:06:43.340 --> 01:06:45.940
it for yourself. Then no matter how much intervention

01:06:45.940 --> 01:06:48.380
you're able to get, like it's not going to do

01:06:48.380 --> 01:06:52.179
you enough good. Like it won't actually help

01:06:52.179 --> 01:06:55.159
you in the long run because the, the root cause

01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:58.559
of the issue is not solved. You fixed the, you

01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.260
put a bandaid over it. A clean house does not

01:07:01.260 --> 01:07:05.699
make you mentally well enough to fix this. Maybe

01:07:05.699 --> 01:07:10.420
we could tackle it together. Watch a couple episodes.

01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:15.639
Yeah. See what we think. Because, yeah, I mean,

01:07:15.659 --> 01:07:19.380
I don't know if someone comes in and helps you

01:07:19.380 --> 01:07:25.780
with it and maybe tries to help you see the things

01:07:25.780 --> 01:07:30.380
in your life that are causing this. If you get

01:07:30.380 --> 01:07:32.559
all the clutter out and you start from zero again.

01:07:33.070 --> 01:07:35.510
whether that's just actually starting from zero

01:07:35.510 --> 01:07:40.510
or a new beginning to a different life. I would

01:07:40.510 --> 01:07:44.769
probably put my money on especially the people

01:07:44.769 --> 01:07:50.570
that would be presented to you on hoarders, which

01:07:50.570 --> 01:07:54.070
I don't... think that it is it's probably not

01:07:54.070 --> 01:07:56.110
something that the people directly sign up for

01:07:56.110 --> 01:07:58.409
i'm sure there's a percent a small percentage

01:07:58.409 --> 01:08:01.150
of them that do like hey i need help with this

01:08:01.150 --> 01:08:04.809
i think it's probably mostly concerned relatives

01:08:04.809 --> 01:08:07.550
friends or whatever reaching out to the show

01:08:07.550 --> 01:08:10.869
and say hey i need i need help with this it's

01:08:10.869 --> 01:08:14.210
just like uh what was it dr drew with his interventions

01:08:14.210 --> 01:08:18.329
yeah Like it's not the people saying, hey, I

01:08:18.329 --> 01:08:20.430
need help. It's the people saying, hey, this

01:08:20.430 --> 01:08:23.409
person needs help. Can you help them? And so

01:08:23.409 --> 01:08:25.350
I think especially coming from there, I think

01:08:25.350 --> 01:08:29.170
it's more likely going to be just starting back

01:08:29.170 --> 01:08:32.170
from zero and then building it back up than it

01:08:32.170 --> 01:08:38.569
is going back to zero and staying there. But

01:08:38.569 --> 01:08:42.039
no, I would be interested. uh yeah start on some

01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.420
older episodes uh check it out see what we think

01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:49.699
and then maybe see if there's a follow -up somewhere

01:08:49.699 --> 01:08:52.720
that where are they now we could also check out

01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:58.279
yeah yeah they can be interesting it's a it's

01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.000
a sad show and it's premise but if you think

01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.920
about it a lot of reality shows are pretty sad

01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.380
when you think about them a little too much yeah

01:09:05.380 --> 01:09:10.899
uh on a much lighter note Do you want to know

01:09:10.899 --> 01:09:14.340
one of my little fun fact honorable mentions

01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:21.140
for today? Yes. There are 32 different iterations

01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:25.979
of The Real Housewives. Good Lord. 11 domestic

01:09:25.979 --> 01:09:29.760
and 21 international. I know that the one in

01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:34.020
Dallas didn't last very long. Yeah. The original

01:09:34.020 --> 01:09:39.039
was the OC. In addition to, yeah. In addition

01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:41.819
to Orange County, you have New York City, Atlanta,

01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:46.479
New Jersey, D .C., Beverly Hills, Miami, Potomac.

01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:51.180
I assume that isn't that also D .C.-ish? Where?

01:09:51.300 --> 01:09:54.420
I don't know where that is. Potomac? Potomac?

01:09:54.539 --> 01:09:58.100
There's a Real Housewives of Potomac, which I

01:09:58.100 --> 01:10:01.100
don't really understand that one. I would think

01:10:01.100 --> 01:10:04.300
that would be D .C. I'm curious how that one

01:10:04.300 --> 01:10:08.750
would be different. There's also Dallas, Salt

01:10:08.750 --> 01:10:14.130
Lake City, and Rhode Island. Salt Lake City,

01:10:14.229 --> 01:10:18.250
just a bunch of Mormon wives? I mean, it's different

01:10:18.250 --> 01:10:21.229
from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. That's another

01:10:21.229 --> 01:10:26.210
one that Emily watches is Sister Wives. I've

01:10:26.210 --> 01:10:29.909
always been baffled by that those people have

01:10:29.909 --> 01:10:32.710
a show. I mean, it makes sense because the drama

01:10:32.710 --> 01:10:38.250
is off the charts. Yeah, it's they're not even

01:10:38.250 --> 01:10:40.689
they're not even sister wives anymore. None of

01:10:40.689 --> 01:10:43.590
them. He's only got one wife left. And how is

01:10:43.590 --> 01:10:46.510
there still a show? I didn't know that. Yeah,

01:10:46.609 --> 01:10:50.850
just Robin. How long has that show been on? Long

01:10:50.850 --> 01:10:59.510
time. Twenty. 2009, 2010, maybe. Oh, OK. It's

01:10:59.510 --> 01:11:06.000
nuts. Yeah. Another. kind of sub -genre of reality

01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.800
TV that I absolutely hate is family shows. Aside

01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:11.579
from the Keeping Up with the Kardashians things,

01:11:11.779 --> 01:11:14.300
I hate 19 Kids and Counting. I don't want to

01:11:14.300 --> 01:11:17.319
watch Octo Mom, Kate Plus 8, or John and Kate

01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:19.479
Plus 8, whichever iteration you want to go with.

01:11:20.180 --> 01:11:23.020
It's just gross. It was the people that sold

01:11:23.020 --> 01:11:24.479
their children before they were influencers.

01:11:25.300 --> 01:11:28.319
Yeah. Now all this stuff is coming out about

01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:32.220
Kate Gosselin, who I think maybe just got a TikTok.

01:11:33.489 --> 01:11:36.229
Yeah, and then she got blasted, and I'm pretty

01:11:36.229 --> 01:11:39.130
sure that that was the end of her TikTok. It

01:11:39.130 --> 01:11:43.149
was just like, what's her dumbass name? Casey

01:11:43.149 --> 01:11:46.489
Anthony. Casey Anthony. Who had a TikTok for

01:11:46.489 --> 01:11:49.229
some reason. Had a TikTok for a hot second. I

01:11:49.229 --> 01:11:54.310
would be surprised if it is still current. But

01:11:54.310 --> 01:11:58.149
you got away with it. Just go. Just stay out

01:11:58.149 --> 01:12:01.770
of the limelight. Right. That is when you...

01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:06.000
You fade into the mist and be, I guess, grateful

01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:11.859
that there is no karma in this world. Not that

01:12:11.859 --> 01:12:15.619
we know of. I will say, on a very unimportant

01:12:15.619 --> 01:12:17.680
part of that, that I am glad that she still has

01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:19.819
the same haircut. She still has the I'd like

01:12:19.819 --> 01:12:24.479
to speak to a manager haircut after 17 years,

01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:30.079
I think. A while, yeah. And I like that John

01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:34.890
is finally starting to... I don't I don't think

01:12:34.890 --> 01:12:38.250
that any parent that is willing to subject their

01:12:38.250 --> 01:12:46.689
children to the reality show nonsense is all

01:12:46.689 --> 01:13:03.760
that great of a parent. from whatever prison

01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:07.760
school Kate had him in in order to get his dad

01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.340
to save him. So I do like that he's getting his

01:13:10.340 --> 01:13:15.100
recognition for that. And maybe it was like he

01:13:15.100 --> 01:13:17.380
got blinded by it, too, because I think that

01:13:17.380 --> 01:13:21.140
these networks throw out numbers, especially

01:13:21.140 --> 01:13:23.199
for people that weren't celebrities beforehand.

01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:26.140
They throw out these numbers, these dollar signs

01:13:26.140 --> 01:13:28.699
that these people have never seen before. The

01:13:28.699 --> 01:13:33.420
Honey Boo Boos, the... dance mom people, all

01:13:33.420 --> 01:13:37.159
that stuff. They throw out these numbers. And

01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:39.739
so these people feel like they can't say no.

01:13:39.899 --> 01:13:42.880
And then they're just under that microscope for

01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.439
the rest of their lives. And so I think it's

01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.159
really easy in the beginning to be blinded by

01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:49.899
it. And then once you step away from it, say,

01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:53.720
holy hell, that was awful. And then try to distance

01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.979
yourself from it. But then obviously Kate wasn't

01:13:57.979 --> 01:14:03.010
so eager. To separate herself from it and maybe

01:14:03.010 --> 01:14:07.090
save her kids from whatever turmoil they have

01:14:07.090 --> 01:14:10.630
going on. And then sounds like creating a bunch

01:14:10.630 --> 01:14:14.649
of turmoil on her own for her children. Yeah,

01:14:14.670 --> 01:14:16.329
the amount of apathy you have to have for your

01:14:16.329 --> 01:14:18.970
children to want to put them through that for

01:14:18.970 --> 01:14:23.310
a paycheck is insanity. Yeah. And I'm sure there's

01:14:23.310 --> 01:14:25.350
all sorts of ways that people reason with themselves

01:14:25.350 --> 01:14:29.109
about, hey, well, when this opportunity came,

01:14:29.229 --> 01:14:32.420
I felt like I couldn't. Ignore it and then whatever.

01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:38.539
But like Honey Boo Boo is always going to have

01:14:38.539 --> 01:14:45.000
that stigma for her entire life. Yeah. Mama June

01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.359
and all the the stuff she got caught up in. That's

01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:53.479
always going to be there. Yeah. Like there there

01:14:53.479 --> 01:15:00.560
is such a heavier cost to. exposing every aspect

01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:04.779
of your life to the world that I cannot see a

01:15:04.779 --> 01:15:07.479
situation in which that paycheck is worth it.

01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.479
Sure, of course. And you know that these people

01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:15.840
are getting like the Disney treatment, like they

01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:17.220
aren't getting residuals, they aren't getting

01:15:17.220 --> 01:15:19.899
anything like that. So they get that paycheck

01:15:19.899 --> 01:15:22.579
and then it's done. They don't even have a sustained

01:15:22.579 --> 01:15:26.279
unless they can use that to propel themselves

01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:30.369
into. Doing other things, which then that's when

01:15:30.369 --> 01:15:34.710
you get into like the celebrity boxing and celebrity

01:15:34.710 --> 01:15:42.590
episodes of whatever. The Apprentice or. I don't

01:15:42.590 --> 01:15:46.510
know what other celebrity. Show celebrity big

01:15:46.510 --> 01:15:50.210
brother. There was that claim to fame thing,

01:15:50.329 --> 01:15:53.970
which was celebrity hangers on. Which I always

01:15:53.970 --> 01:15:55.350
thought was really funny. I didn't actually watch

01:15:55.350 --> 01:15:58.529
that show, but. I do think it would be a fun

01:15:58.529 --> 01:16:04.689
watch. Yeah. You ever watch that? Uh, that was

01:16:04.689 --> 01:16:08.890
hosted by the bonus Jonas. Oh, and it was, Oh

01:16:08.890 --> 01:16:13.510
yes, yes, I did. Yeah. Franklin, Franklin, Jonas,

01:16:13.569 --> 01:16:18.010
Franklin and Kevin. Oh, okay. Yeah. We actually,

01:16:18.029 --> 01:16:21.250
we actually watched, uh, I think there was two

01:16:21.250 --> 01:16:24.130
seasons. We watched all of it. No, no, there's

01:16:24.130 --> 01:16:27.170
going to be a third one. Yeah, it's funny that

01:16:27.170 --> 01:16:32.670
the hangers -on were the bonus Jonas and the

01:16:32.670 --> 01:16:35.329
third Jonas brother that no one really cared

01:16:35.329 --> 01:16:40.270
for. I take that back. I would be lashed once

01:16:40.270 --> 01:16:42.109
this episode came out if I said no one cared

01:16:42.109 --> 01:16:44.229
about Kevin because that's Emily's favorite Jonas

01:16:44.229 --> 01:16:50.750
brother. But grand scheme of things, it is Joe,

01:16:50.810 --> 01:16:54.649
Nick, Kevin. Or Nick, Joe, Kevin. Or Nick, Joe,

01:16:54.670 --> 01:16:57.960
Kevin. Kevin is always third. Kevin is usually

01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.439
third, yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, Kevin

01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:03.859
also had a reality show with his wife, Danielle.

01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:09.199
Yeah. Should I phone a friend real quick? You

01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:11.859
should. It was called Married to Jonas. It lasted

01:17:11.859 --> 01:17:20.979
two seasons in 2012. Hold on. Hey. Can you tell

01:17:20.979 --> 01:17:24.260
me everything you know about... Kevin Jonas's

01:17:24.260 --> 01:17:28.420
reality show? It was just a show about him and

01:17:28.420 --> 01:17:35.100
his wife. Was it good? To me. Yeah. Who's your

01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:41.859
favorite Jonas? Kevin. What about Kevin? Okay.

01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:44.060
Well, if that's all the insight you can give

01:17:44.060 --> 01:17:47.260
me is that it was just a reality show with him

01:17:47.260 --> 01:17:50.279
and his wife, then that's all I needed. Okay.

01:17:50.539 --> 01:17:55.710
All right. Thanks. Love you, bye. Love you, bye.

01:17:56.810 --> 01:17:58.409
That wasn't as fruitful as I thought it would

01:17:58.409 --> 01:18:06.510
be. That was a fun phone a friend. No, I think

01:18:06.510 --> 01:18:11.750
those little one -off celebrity reality TV shows

01:18:11.750 --> 01:18:14.350
are interesting. I don't think I would ever be

01:18:14.350 --> 01:18:17.449
interested in watching any of them, but I think

01:18:17.449 --> 01:18:19.729
it's interesting that so many of them exist.

01:18:20.220 --> 01:18:22.739
Also, I had a couple of honorable mentions when

01:18:22.739 --> 01:18:28.359
it comes to reality shows that were led by celebrities.

01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:34.039
One of which is Flavor of Love, the dating show

01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:38.899
for some reason, hosted by Flava Flav. Yeah.

01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:43.640
The Vanilla Ice Project, which lasted a mind

01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:47.159
-boggling nine seasons. Isn't that a home renovation

01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:52.739
show? Yes. Also, also a Dallas boy. The final

01:18:52.739 --> 01:18:55.859
episode was in 2019, which was not a thing that

01:18:55.859 --> 01:18:58.859
I knew until just now. Who is still listening

01:18:58.859 --> 01:19:02.619
to Vanilla Ice doing things in 2019? Good for

01:19:02.619 --> 01:19:05.899
Robert Van Winkle. Good for Robert Van Winkle,

01:19:05.979 --> 01:19:11.100
man. There was also, he did a show with the Amish

01:19:11.100 --> 01:19:13.920
that I don't remember the name of. I really wish

01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:17.000
that I did right now. Vanilla Ice Goes Amish.

01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.939
which aired on the DIY Network, which is a thing

01:19:20.939 --> 01:19:23.680
that existed. That's not called Romspringa Baby.

01:19:25.819 --> 01:19:31.859
The show follows rapper and home improvement

01:19:31.859 --> 01:19:36.159
expert. Home expert. Incredible title. Yeah.

01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:39.300
He went through nine seasons. Of course he's

01:19:39.300 --> 01:19:42.439
an expert. That was like nine years worth of

01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:43.920
Vanilla Ice learning about home improvement.

01:19:45.949 --> 01:19:48.350
He embeds himself with an Amish family in Holmes

01:19:48.350 --> 01:19:51.430
County, Ohio, learning about traditional handcraftsmanship

01:19:51.430 --> 01:19:54.449
by participating in construction projects and

01:19:54.449 --> 01:19:58.390
farm tasks like barn raising. Hmm. Raise a barn

01:19:58.390 --> 01:20:01.449
on Monday, soon I'll raise another. Think you're

01:20:01.449 --> 01:20:03.250
really righteous? Think you're pure at heart?

01:20:03.350 --> 01:20:05.430
Well, I know I'm a million times as humble as

01:20:05.430 --> 01:20:08.630
thou art. This was, for some reason, a follow

01:20:08.630 --> 01:20:11.890
-up to his other DIY network show, The Vanilla

01:20:11.890 --> 01:20:14.329
Eyes Project, which was the home renovations.

01:20:15.299 --> 01:20:20.000
Why exactly was this a follow -up to Extreme

01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.659
Makeover Vanilla Ice Edition? It got a 7 .6 out

01:20:24.659 --> 01:20:28.180
of 10 on IMDb. I mean, maybe it's worth checking

01:20:28.180 --> 01:20:32.079
out. I don't know. I believe that it is. You

01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:36.640
don't judge a book by its cover. Oh, it's on

01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:40.619
YouTube. Nice. There you go. And also maybe Netflix.

01:20:41.899 --> 01:20:45.310
Cool. Well, if only you had access to Netflix.

01:20:45.810 --> 01:20:50.810
If only I had access to Netflix. Damn. I won't

01:20:50.810 --> 01:20:52.909
be getting another subscription service. We talked

01:20:52.909 --> 01:20:55.050
about this for an hour and a half last week.

01:20:55.689 --> 01:20:59.270
Okay. Okay. You say that now. You say that now.

01:21:00.210 --> 01:21:04.210
I do. Yeah. All right. Do you have anything else

01:21:04.210 --> 01:21:10.449
for this one? No. I think that was all of my

01:21:10.449 --> 01:21:15.300
insights on reality TV. All right. Well, then

01:21:15.300 --> 01:21:18.779
what words of wisdom do you have for our listeners

01:21:18.779 --> 01:21:24.619
to take with them into the next week? If you

01:21:24.619 --> 01:21:26.840
watch reality TV, but you don't participate in

01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:28.600
it, understand that nothing that you're watching

01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:31.800
is reality. If you are participating in it, make

01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:34.760
it fun. Do something ridiculous. Maybe don't

01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:38.439
get caught for murder. But other than that, the

01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:41.420
world is your oyster. The world is your oyster.

01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:57.039
What do you got? I would say that if you want

01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:00.939
a long -term solution for your life, you're not

01:22:00.939 --> 01:22:04.460
going to find it on a reality TV show. The only

01:22:04.460 --> 01:22:07.460
way you're going to find it is when you realize

01:22:07.460 --> 01:22:10.000
what the issue is and you... Win the lottery.

01:22:11.380 --> 01:22:17.079
No. No. No. There is a whole list of people that

01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:20.640
have ended up in much worse situations after

01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:25.939
winning the lottery. But no, you realize the

01:22:25.939 --> 01:22:28.859
problem. You come up with a solution on your

01:22:28.859 --> 01:22:32.020
own. Whether you need outside help to fulfill

01:22:32.020 --> 01:22:36.680
that solution is a different story. But that

01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:38.319
is the only way you're going to have long -term

01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:42.819
success. And... Don't be afraid to reach out

01:22:42.819 --> 01:22:48.720
to us with all of your reality show tidbits.

01:22:48.739 --> 01:22:50.560
Maybe you're on a reality show. Maybe you could

01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:56.100
give us some insights onto a perspective that

01:22:56.100 --> 01:23:00.500
we're lacking in. And if you would like to reach

01:23:00.500 --> 01:23:04.659
out to us, you can. Hit us up on TikTok, YouTube,

01:23:04.859 --> 01:23:08.779
or Instagram at CashExchangePod. Also, sound

01:23:08.779 --> 01:23:11.350
off in the comments. As to which of the Jonas

01:23:11.350 --> 01:23:14.350
Brothers is the best, do you pick Nick? Are you

01:23:14.350 --> 01:23:17.310
more of a Cubba Joe kind of person? Let us know.

01:23:17.409 --> 01:23:18.189
Or do you play it safe with Kevin? Do you for

01:23:18.189 --> 01:23:22.729
some reason love Kevin? I don't have a good tagline

01:23:22.729 --> 01:23:24.909
for Kevin, which I think might be bad branding,

01:23:24.970 --> 01:23:26.909
and that's why he's the third -ranked Jonas Brother.

01:23:27.270 --> 01:23:28.850
Maybe he just doesn't care. Maybe he's just too

01:23:28.850 --> 01:23:31.829
cool for it. He deserves better marketing. He's

01:23:31.829 --> 01:23:34.250
not over here marrying Game of Thrones people.

01:23:34.850 --> 01:23:36.850
And then Franklin's just off living his best

01:23:36.850 --> 01:23:42.430
life. Yeah. All right, Emma, with that, we'll

01:23:42.430 --> 01:23:44.630
see you. Peace out, Girl Scouts.