grooming is the big conversation hmm like like
clean shaving or not i thought we were past that
i thought we're like beards all the way mustaches
are making a comeback shave your beard you hippie
never yeah i know not not ever i've seen the
the before and afters the beard suits you five
four three two one zero Welcome to the show,
people. Welcome to the show. Eat my shoes. So
here is to conversation. Tranquility Base here.
The Eagle has landed. Welcome to the Cash Exchange.
Hey, what's up? How have you been? I see you're
wearing some new merch. Not ours, unfortunately.
Wearing my merch? Yeah, not yet. We're not there
yet, but we'll get there. Yeah, this is my Bigger
and Weirder shirt from the tour stop I was at
on Saturday. I've never experienced FOMO like
when I heard that you were getting Weird Al tickets
for you and the fam. It's fine. We took the whole
plan. Did you tell dad? No, I haven't yet. I
don't know how he'll feel. Glad that someone
is giving to live out his dream. If you hadn't
been so far away, then you could have taken Emily's
ticket. Yeah, she not a big weirdo person? No,
no. She's not a Yankee. I guess that's what,
is that what we're called? Yeah. Yankees? Weirdos?
Weirdos feels pretty apt. Okay, there we go.
That's better. Have the kids enjoy it. Well,
Max. was treating it like a movie he just stayed
in a seat the whole time they did some interspersing
with uh so like whenever he went to go change
costumes they would play like just clips from
his entire career okay like stuff that he was
in him or stuff where he was mentioned and uh
he thought those were really funny yeah he didn't
really get into the music because we didn't tell
him we bought him last minute we didn't tell
him what we were doing emily made shirts for
everyone and we gave them to him when we pulled
into the parking lot And they said, why do these
have Weird Al lyrics on them? And then we're
like, well, where do you think we are? And Cooper's
like, oh, we're going to see Weird Al. I almost
disowned her. But the first song he did was Tacky,
and she was all about it. I like that album.
And then he did whatever his most recent polka
is with Bad Guy. uh shake it off she was real
into that i would imagine she made it she made
about halfway through the show before she fell
asleep impressive and we tried to wake her up
for um ebay and amish paradise and uh one more
white and nerdy yeah the real show he went and
uh He said goodnight to the crowd and everything.
And Mac said, okay, is it time to go? I said,
no. You wait until they turn the house lights
on. That's when it's time to go. Because otherwise
they're going to be coming back out for more.
Well, how do you know that? I was like, because
it's happened at every single concert I've ever
been to. Since the beginning of time, yeah. Yeah.
And so we sat there and all of a sudden this
guy in a big robe comes out. and starts getting
the crowd pumped up. And then behind him, just
a line of stormtroopers and Darth Vader. You
almost missed a Saga Begins. Almost, yeah. Well,
I didn't. I knew something was coming. I knew
he was going to play it at some point. But, yeah,
he did Saga Begins, and then he did Yoda. That
was his last song. Oh, nice. And Max, whenever
we left, said he thinks he liked this concert
more than Cody Jinks. I would hope so. And then
Cooper. This is generations of fandom culminating
in one night. There were a lot of clips from
Weird, the Al Yankovic story. And so I said,
have y 'all seen that? Like, no. Okay, we'll
watch it tomorrow. And so yesterday. I put it
on, and halfway through, Cooper was, like, sitting
on my lap. She said, hey, can I go change clothes?
I said, yeah, I guess. Why? Okay, I'll be right
back. And then she grabs her bigger and weirder
shirt and puts it on and watches the rest of
the movie with us. Raising them right. At least
one of them. Life -changing. One of the happiest
moments of my life. Yeah? Yeah. Somewhere in
between the second and third birth that I witnessed.
Somewhere in there. Wow. Maybe between first
and second. Wow. I don't know. Okay. Are we actually
ranking them in order of births? Because I feel
like you can't be that transparent on your favorite
kids. Just been diminishing returns. Sorry, guys.
Shouldn't have been born third. I mean, they
all had their standout moments. One was au naturel,
and that's something to witness. Yeah. One had
to make a fourth quarter call. Yeah. And then
one was just a scheduled slice and extract. That
is a horrifying way to phrase that. So, I mean,
I guess as far as levels of trauma, I'd probably
go natural emergency cut and planned cut. You
know, I'm glad that you can express these in
levels of trauma as the person who didn't expel
a human being from their body. There's a thing
going around the internet about how... Women
are saying that childbirth is like getting kicked
in the balls over and over and over again for
nine months. And a lot of men bring up a very
good point that when a man gets kicked in the
balls, he doesn't ask to be kicked in the balls
again. He doesn't ask to say, yeah, yeah, go
ahead. Do it again. Do it again. Please. Yeah.
There's a void in my life that I need to fill
by getting my balls kicked in for nine months.
So I'm just saying that's a bad analogy. It is
not. There might be something else, but that's
a bad analogy. I mean, as of the moment that
it happens or the process of it happening, I
feel like that's valid. The fact that you get
a child out of one of them and you get some bruising
maybe out of the other one. You get testicular
cancer out of the other one. You get testicular
torsion. Does that happen because of getting
kicked? I don't feel like that's a cause and
effect situation. I don't think you can kick
cancer into... If you are kicked for nine months
straight in a very sensitive part of your body,
one, you're going to lose feeling in it. Two,
you're going to lose functionality in it. And
three... You definitely spike your chances of
testicular cancer. I don't think that's true.
Or testicular torsion. I agree on the second
front. I think cancer does not care how many
times you've been kicked in the balls. Look at
Steve -O. We don't know that he doesn't have
testicular cancer. Do you think he wouldn't make
it public if he had testicular cancer? They'd
seem like a real no -holds -barred kind of group.
I don't know. He's sober now, so maybe he likes
to keep some of that a little close to the chest.
You know what? Maybe. Regardless, I don't think
that's how that works. Regular cannabis use has
been linked to testicular cancer, especially
in younger men. I have so many questions as to
why that happens. Yeah, I don't know. We're off
to a great start here. I'm one to admit when
I'm not right about something, I don't think
this is one of those times. Okay. You can feel
free to die on that hill. I will. I will. All
right. And on a very far departure from that
conversation, do you want to know what your three
things are today? I would love to know what my
three things are today. Your three things today
are DiGiorno tweets, Yoko Ono, and celebrity
covers of Imagine. Hmm. DiGiorno, as in it's
not delivery, it's DiGiorno? Mm -hmm, that one.
Okay. I do have a more specific version of that,
but you can go ahead and try with this one. We'll
see if you need the extra help. Okay. Yoko Ono.
Screaming. Hang her on her. Beatles imploder.
Sure. And then celebrity imagine cover. So bringing
it back to, okay, we got two for, is there something
I don't know about a connection between DiGiorno
and John Lennon? You know, I'm not here to speculate,
but I'm not saying no. Oh, oh, ooh. We're truthers
on this podcast. Abominous. I don't know if John
Lennon. predates DiGiorno, but I do know that
he predates tweets. Unfortunately, he's not a
tie -in on this one. Unless... Unless he faked
his death. And that's the reason that Mark David
Chapman is out today, because he didn't actually
kill anyone. Is he out? I didn't know that. Is
he? Or am I thinking of the other one? Am I thinking
of the Nixon one? Or not Nixon. Reagan? The one
who's trying to get Jodie Foster's attention?
Which one's John Hinckley? Jodie Foster. No,
John Hinckley is... That's the Reagan one. John
Hinckley is? Yes. Okay. Mark David Chapman was
Lenin. Maybe he just got out because he didn't
kill anyone. He shooted a president, though.
I think that... I think that's a kind of one
and done thing, isn't it? Should be off the table,
but I don't know. It's a compelling enough reason
he got attention from Jodie Foster. It kinda
worked. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that, uh...
I think he was barking up the wrong tree on that
one. Perhaps. Who's to say? He was willing to
try to assassinate a president to get a celebrity's
attention, so... I'm not sure all of the... the
gears were working right anyway. But that is
dedication. You can... You can't appreciate the
hustle. Yeah. Can you? Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever
had someone try to assassinate a president for
your love? I can't say that I have. I think maybe
you just haven't met the right person. I'll let
him know. You don't really love me unless you
try to assassinate a leader for me. It's a step
beyond. I would take a bullet for you. It's I
would give a bullet for you. Is that a step beyond?
I think it is. Is it better to... That is even
more. How... One of them is actively protecting
me. What is the other one doing? Showing that
I would commit regicide for you. Regicide? Regicide,
yeah. I think technically it's when you try to
kill a king. Or you try to kill a monarch. But,
I mean, though he's not a king. He's not a king.
I'm not saying Trump's a king. We had those protests.
No king. We woke up the next day and still didn't
have a king. But I think in this instance, it
would still be an instance of regicide. Okay.
Maybe. Not. Not going to get political on this
one, but I don't think it is a one -day process
of you just deciding that you're going to be
a king. We do have a guest for this podcast that
might have something to weigh in on on that one.
Hmm. I'd rather not. I'm not going to phone a
friend. I think she might turn this podcast in
a different direction. She might mad -ow it all
up. She doesn't have a haircut. I think the power
comes from the haircut. Anyways. Alright, so.
Imagine. By. I wonder how many people. I wonder
how many people remember the entire context of
that situation. How many people remember that
everyone was locked in their house. Because of
the roni. And. These people. Like we were losing,
people were losing their houses. People were
not being able to afford groceries. Grocery stores
were bare for whatever reason. Every store in
the entire country was out of toilet paper because
everyone decided that's what we were going to
make a run on. Amen. When you're up Schitt's
Creek, bounce. I just. How many people remember
the full context of when that video came out
and just how idiotic it all seemed? And how they
just really needed to read the room. You can't
read the room from a million dollar kitchen.
Same. Do you remember everyone that was in it?
The big ones I remember are Gal Gadot. Because
it was her brainchild, I think. And the audacity
of that woman who has a difficulty delivering
lines. Hello, no. With enough champagne to fill
the Nile. I've watched that video way too many
times. For her brainchild to be, I'm going to
sing this song, and I'm going to get all my buddies
to sing it too. It's something. It's something
else. And then Aaron Paul, which like, man, Breaking
Bad's over. I'm sorry. But this isn't it. This
isn't what you're looking for. This isn't going
to be how you get your star to shine. Again,
and then another one was just Sarah Paulson.
He was in deep on BoJack Horseman at that point.
So I think he was still doing things. Was he?
He also had El Camino. He did. Aaron Paul was
still relevant at that point. Frivolous. El Camino
was kind of frivolous. Unnecessary. He was also,
I found out when we were watching Weird, the
Al Yankovic story was The movie was based on
a short starring Aaron Paul as Weird Al. Weird.
And he's supposed to reprise his role for the
movie, which I'm glad he didn't because Daniel
Radcliffe did a great job. He nailed it. But,
yeah, he got the Rona, and so he couldn't. Oh.
So Daniel Radcliffe stepped in. Only took 14
days of him filming. That makes total sense.
You know, there's an episode of Family Guy where
they do like the three different stories and
it's musicians. Yeah. So they do like Elton John,
The Doors, stuff like that. The one where they
have The Doors reminds me so much of the movie
Weird, the Al Yankovic story. Because Jim Morrison
just says something random and it's just suddenly
a song title. Daniel Radcliffe is holding up
a thing of Oscar Mayer and he's like, my baloney.
Huh. And then he gets on on what, Dr. Demento?
Yes. Rainn Wilson's radio show. I almost said
podcast. That was dating myself here. Yeah, and
it was all history from there. There were 25
participants to the Imagine cover, by the way.
There's also a Wikipedia for it, which I think
is incredibly funny. Can we get a list? We can
get a list. So starting out strong, Gal Gadot.
You've got Kristen Wiig, Jamie Dornan, Labyrinth,
James Marsden, Sarah Silverman, Eddie Benjamin.
I don't know who that is. Jimmy Fallon, Natalie
Portman, Zoe Kravitz, Sia, Linda Carter, Amy
Adams. Leslie Odom Jr., Pedro Pascal, Chris O'Dowd,
Don O 'Porter, Will Ferrell, Mark Ruffalo, Nora
Jones, Ashley Benson, Kaya Gerber, Cara Delevingne,
Annie Momolo, and Maya Rudolph. Hmm. And for
our younger listeners. He was in it. He was.
Wikipedia says otherwise. You can go in and edit
it. I think that's still a thing. I don't know
if Wikipedia is still crowdsourced. Or was he
in a parody of it? There was a parody of it?
It's a parody of it. It is a parody, yeah. I
don't know. Maybe I misspoke on Aaron Paul. I
don't think so. I'm pretty sure he was in it.
But regardless, for our younger listeners, the
song Imagine is about a millionaire, multiple
times over, from one of the biggest bands of
all time. saying, hey, what if there weren't
any possessions? Imagine a world where it was
heaven on earth, where we didn't have to worry
about money, where we didn't have to worry about
war and disparity, and nobody was poor, all while
probably, presumably, recording this in his penthouse
suite in New York. There's a lot of weird choices.
Realistically, it is exactly as questionable
in origin as maybe Gal Gadot's version was true
to form. I just didn't give her enough credit
because I was too busy being unemployed and fighting
for toilet paper at the Walmart. Hindsight's
20 -20, man. there there's that bit that famous
photo shoot um uh was it for rolling stones the
one where they're like in bed yeah yeah and then
there's like some behind the scenes photos because
the whole thing is like uh i mean it's just the
song imagine embodied it's just like no possessions
blah blah blah blah anyways um there's some behind
the scenes photos where after they took that
photo there is a maid Coming in to make the bed.
And I just feel like that is the perfect encapsulation
of what Imagine is all about. Yeah. Anyways,
we got way sidetracked. Yeah, we got way sidetracked.
DiGiorno tweets, Yoko Ono, and Imagine cover.
Do you want to know the specifics behind the
DiGiorno tweet? I do. There's one specific tweet.
I do, actually. So the hashtag that they used
was trending. I don't believe that anyone on
the DiGiorno social media team did their research
into it because the hashtag is why I stayed.
And the tweet itself was hashtag why I stayed.
You had pizza. If you are also not familiar with
what hashtag why I stayed was for, it was domestic
violence. Was this like it ends with us kind
of stuff? Yes. Is that what it was from? It wasn't
from that because it predated that god awful
book. But it was still the same like why I stayed
and it was just all of these survivors of domestic
violence talking about why. They stayed in the
relationship that they were in. And DiGiorno
was like, hold my cheap -ass pizza. I stayed
because there was a large Supreme in the oven.
Odd choice. It was an odd choice. Okay. So now
that I have more clarity, I have a better understanding
of... And I would say that maybe pandering, maybe
having a willful misunderstanding of the situation.
Yeah. You think it's a willful misunderstanding?
I think so. Okay. Especially with the Imagine
thing. I think that they were very cognizant
of their place in this world and that their fortunes
are built off the work of all these other people
and that it was just, hey, we can't make movies
right now, so please remember us. Remember we
exist. Because when we can make movies, go get
our tickets again. Please. Please. They knew
what they were doing. They thought that we were
too stupid to not get the underlying message.
But yeah, we get it. I'm kind of bummed out now
that I've already used my Gal Gadot impression
because that would have fit perfectly in here.
Save your money. I know you're unemployed, but
you have to go see Enough Champagne to Feel the
Nile. Which I still think had more inflection
than she had in that movie. It's just a bad movie.
It is a bad movie. I had high hopes. I like those
whodunits. Knives Out was probably the best one.
I didn't much care for Glass Onion. I didn't
really like Glass Onion either. I liked Murder
on the Orient Expresso. I didn't watch that one.
That's good. Check it out. You should definitely
watch that one over whatever the Death on the
Nile. Well, I mean, it's too late. I've already
unfortunately seen that one. I won't get that
two hours of my life back. Well, you can make
up for it by watching Murder on the Orient Express
and then Haunting in Venice. I didn't like that
one. It was okay. Yeah, I don't know. All right,
and we're sidetracked again. All right, so your
final take on DiGiorno tweets, Yoko Ono, and
the Celebrity Imagine cover. Mistimed. Mistimed
instances. Not reading the room. You know what?
That is a good take. Yeah? Instances being...
unwilling to or unable to read the room. Tone
deaf, I would say. Tone deaf, that's what it
is? Mm -hmm. Oh, okay. Okay. Literally and figuratively.
There are countless instances of tone, yeah.
I think Yoko is the figuratively there. She's
figuratively tone deaf? Have you ever listened
to her music? I think she's both. I mean, literally.
Literally tone deaf. Have you listened to her
music? I have. On brief occasions, listen to
bits of Yoko Ono. I don't think I've ever listened
to a full screech, if you will. No, I don't have
the patience for that. Life's too short. Yeah.
All right, and on that note of phenomenally tone
-deaf things, our episode for today is on weird
ad campaigns. Weird ad campaigns. I thought you
were going to say weird out for a second. I got
all excited. You know, it ties in. It's still
the same. I accidentally made a typo in the podcast
list and now we're here. So this episode was
brought about because I, like many other chronically
online people, have been inundated lately with
Sydney Sweeney, American Eagle. Nonsense. Have
you been seeing all of the backlash for this
ad? Have you seen the original ads? Yes. Yes,
I have. Yeah. And I've seen the backlash. And
I don't get it. You don't get the backlash or
the ad? I don't get the backlash. Okay. The ad
is just straightforward. It's a play on words.
I think... Sydney Sweeney has great genes. With
a J. Yeah. And, I mean, the implied jeans with
a G. And I think that they, whenever they say
it, they definitely focus on a certain aspect
of her body, which has nothing to do with the
jeans. Yeah. They put her in a Canadian tuxedo,
which in and of itself is an odd choice. I understand
that American Eagle is a jeans brand, but they
also sell things that are not denim, and I think
it would have made. better outfit if they had
maybe chosen different jeans and also a different
shirt that's neither here nor there but I understand
the backlash behind it for a couple of reasons
for one like it seriously bothers me the amount
that they lean into the like kind of Lolita vibe
for so many celebrities these days like yeah
I think it was like Sabrina Carpenter. I think
maybe like Tate McRae or one of the other like
Gen Z musicians did actual Lolita photo shoots,
which is an odd choice. Like it's just, it's,
it feels problematic in a time where grooming
is the big conversation. Hmm. What? Like, like
clean shaven or not? I thought we were past that.
I thought we were like beards all the way. Mustaches
are making a comeback. Shave your beard, you
hippie. Never. Yeah, I know. Not ever. I've seen
the before and afters. The beard suits you. It's
such a weird phenomenon that we're supposed to
be having this conversation about not infantilizing
women and yet so many of these celebrities are
leaning into being infantilized and uh so sydney
sweeney's ad is a play on a calvin klein's ad
with brook shields from the 80s where brook shields
i'm pretty sure was a minor and it is just uncomfy
to watch in 2025 She has spoken out about it
time and time again about how gross she was treated.
Like how grossly she was handled whenever she
was younger. And so I think that playing on something
like that in and of itself is wildly tone deaf.
But I do also to some extent understand the eugenics
side of it. Because it's just been such a big
conversation that it seems like if... the point
that you're making is just jeans with a J it's
maybe, maybe not the time for that. Like you,
you had somebody on your, your marketing team
that heard it and was like, Hey, do you think
people might not take this the way that we want
them to? Unless you're specifically trying to
start that conversation, which if you are cool,
but also And this is not anywhere near the biggest
point. I hate the way she talks. If you have
heard the ad, it is just nonsense. She does not
say one full word. What are you doing? Enunciate,
babe. It is just not that hard. How much money
are you making? For not completing a sentence.
I have a lot of thoughts because I've watched
too many of these videos. And I've seen a lot
of people mock her delivery of it. Do you know
who Greg Olson is? No. He was a tight end for
the Carolina Panthers. And he does the same thing.
He's an announcer now. He drops the last letter
of every word he says. Oh, God. Yeah, and he
gets paid to talk. So maybe it's just a thing.
If it's a thing, it needs to stop. I don't know
what you're selling. I don't understand your
spokesperson. She's selling gin. I saw one of
the most accurate comparisons, and it was a Pedro
Pascal skit from SNL. Ugh. was that it pedro
pascal snl or the skip that i'm referencing first
of all how dare you all three um mostly for pedro
pascal just because like we get it dude we get
it a lot of a lot of discourse about him online
too yeah who isn't there just for some anxiety
us i wish there was but not yet yeah i mean Any
publicity is good publicity. Controversial takes.
Yeah, that is the whole... That's the real theme
of this episode. No press is bad press. Please
don't cancel me. No, but no, he does. He just...
I don't... I don't get it. And I was... So we're...
The kids go back to school this week. And we
were... It's just me and them because Emily's
already back at work. And I was trying to think
of something to do with them during the day,
just for this last time we have together until
school starts. And the only movies that are in
theaters that I think they would be interested
in are either Fantastic Four or Superman. Yeah.
And so I was going to give them the option, hoping
that they were going to pick. Because really,
I don't want to see either of them. But they
didn't. They've seen both of them already. Okay.
But they want to see Fantastic Four again. So
at some point, I'm going to have to sit through
two hours of Pedro Pascal and his pencil mustache.
I mean, you can't blame him for the pencil mustache.
The John Waters look was all the rage back then.
Okay, but he's had that same mustache since Game
of Thrones. I did not watch Game of Thrones for
long enough to have ever seen Bella Ramsey or
Pedro Pascal. So my first experience with both
of them is The Last of Us, a show that I very
much enjoyed. So I will not accept this slander,
but I will accept your right to believe that.
Okay. Okay, I agree to disagree. Remember when
that was a thing? Remember when that was a thing
that most adults could do? It was a simpler time.
Pepperidge Farm remembers. Did you hear that
after this ad came out that good old internet
did its thing and now everyone's real concerned
with Sidney Sweeney's political leanings? Yeah.
And just dumbfounded that she's a registered
Republican? Like that means anything. Why? Why
is anyone dumbfounded by anyone's political bent
these days? I don't know, man. I would look at
anyone and not be surprised that you are Republican
or Democrat. Although, I think if you put yourself
in one of those boxes, you are incorrect. Because
I think it's the same thing. It's the agree to
disagree thing. I don't think that I am so fully...
on one side of the line. Don't get me wrong,
I hate a great deal of the specific people that
are doing things at the moment, but that doesn't
mean that I'm fully on the other side. Yeah.
I will disagree a little bit that you can't look
at someone and make a pretty fair assumption.
on where they where they swing because it's the
people that make it their entire identity and
there's there's people on both sides well sure
i mean if you're if your tattoos or your clothes
or your general conversations have to revolve
around your political lean then i can make some
other assumptions about you if you are for instance
wearing a 45 -47 MAGA hat. Stop it. I don't care
what political leaning you have, but wearing
the merch for it? Weird. That is a hill I will
die on. Stop it. That is weird. This goes back
to my bumper sticker theory. I'm still hoping
for Bernie in 2016. With a losing candidate.
Don't. Don't sully your vehicle with a winning
candidate either. Have some mystery about you.
I am in a city now with, obviously, the biggest
concentration of Teslas and Cybertrucks. One
in three of them has a sticker that says, I bought
this before Elon went crazy. No, you didn't.
No, you didn't. You can accept that you bought
it, maybe without all the facts, but you didn't
buy it before he went crazy. He's been like that.
Always. How many of those stickers do you think
they sold after people started keying Teslas
and... Do they do anything else to them? I think
so. Which is the pansiest way of letting someone
know that you have a problem with them. And the
stupidest way, because there's cameras all over
the car. You get caught. But then whenever you
report it and... Oh, I have the video. Oh, okay.
Cool. Anyways, see ya. I'm fully convinced at
this point because they are all identical stickers
that they put them out at the dealership. They're
just covering their tracks. Every single one
of them is the exact same bumper sticker. Elon
sells them? Is that why he's on his way to be
a trillionaire? Yes. 100%. Ride both sides of
the line. Ride both sides of the line. Annual
profit. There you go, man. I do love the fact
that he put these people in such an existential
crisis that they bought a Tesla. You don't buy
a Tesla because, oh, I care about the environment.
You buy a Tesla because of the association with
it. And then, so these hippie, oh, I have an
electric vehicle. And then, Turns out that your
Tesla creator is on the other side of the aisle,
and you just don't know what to do. You don't
know what to do. So the best thing you can come
up with is a sticker that says... Please don't
key my car. Yes. There is graffiti across the
street from where I work, and it is this giant
heart, and it's Trump kissing Elon, and it's
my favorite part of Austin. I'll have to send
you a picture the next time I see it. Please
do. But yeah, you can accept. I don't know who
makes Toyotas or Nissans. There's not a figurehead.
And so I don't really understand the, hey, maybe
don't key my car because I support the car but
not the guy. You still contributed a lot of money
to Tesla. Those things are not cheap. I don't
know. So while you're over here talking about
no person should be a billionaire, no person
should be a trillionaire, when you're in your
Tesla or your Cybertruck and you're out in the
middle of nowhere and you're sending that tweet
via Starlink. Like, come on. Come on. Shut up.
No, by that point you'll have a Neuralink so
you won't even have to send a tweet. You just
think it and it's just into the ether. Boom.
Yeah. Alright, so are you pro, anti, or neutral
when it comes to Sidney Sweeney has great genes?
I know you like Sidney Sweeney. I'm very pro
Sidney Sweeney. I know she can be typecast as
very one -dimensional and only having two assets
that propel her career, but you should watch
the movie. Anyone but you. Because that gave
her depth where? I mean, she's good comedically.
Come on. When she splashes the water all over
her crotch and she has to find a way to finagle
her way up to the hand dryer to dry her crotch
off in the bathroom because Glenn Powell was
outside waiting for her? Come on. No. I didn't
mind the movie, but she is giving absolutely
nothing. Glenn Powell does do a lot of the heavy
lifting. That human capybara. Don't you dare
disparage my boy Glenn. I would not. I do really
like Glenn Powell. His face irks me. Is he? I
think so. He's from somewhere in Texas. I'm not
disparaging your boy Glenn Powell. His face does
sometimes irk me because his... I don't understand
why so many people think he's as attractive as
he is. Because, again, human capybara. He makes
it work. But he's a good actor. I like him in
things. I just watched, I think it's called Set
It Up with Zoe Deutsch. Mm -hmm. That was not
bad. I've never heard of it. It's another, like,
rom -com. Their personal assistant. Oh, it's
a movie where he was, like, a hitman. Yeah. On
Netflix. I liked that one. I couldn't get into
it. It was real boring to me. Yeah. Killed it.
Twisters. Yeah. Twisters. That was a good movie.
You don't go into it expecting much. So you're
not disappointed. Yeah. It's a great movie. And
then you get a scene of Glenn in a white shirt
walking in the rain. The pouring rain. Putting
on his cowboy hat. Is this to Luke Combs, what
is it, No Love in Oklahoma or something like
that? No Love in Oklahoma. I think that was over
the end credits. I don't think it was actually
during the movie, but it might be. I haven't
seen it. That's good. I was waiting for it to
be on streaming, then I forgot about it. Okay.
It's on Peacock. Cindy Sweeney. Okay. I mean,
that's whatever. I do like the fact that they
stuck with it. They didn't back down. Yeah. Like,
good for you. You make a decision, you stick
to it. Like Bud Light? I mean, it doesn't always
work. They stuck to it, and then their sales
dipped. Bud Light? No, they didn't. I mean, they
stuck to it, like, right then. There's probably
going to come a time not too long from now where
American Eagle's like, yeah, after some reflection
and deep thought, we realize the blah, blah,
blah, blah, the corporate nonsense that means
nothing. But Bud Light stuck to it, and they
had their marketing whatever person come out
and say, yeah, Bud Light has just been like just
for frat bros and all. But those are the people
with the money that are going to be. keeping
your company up those are the people that you've
made money off this entire time and then for
you to say oh well we just want to pivot so hard
away from that that we're just going to completely
tank that market share sure so i'm not saying
that there's not going to be repercussions from
it but if you make a decision you stick with
it you stick it out you don't say oh yeah whoops
my bad and then try to do a complete 180 right
away because then you just you have no You have
no... It's even more tone deaf. Yeah. I don't
think that the best course of action would ever
be for them to just be like, oh yeah, whoops.
And then to make a different ad, like to just
pivot the campaign from there because it doesn't
seem like they understood any part of why people
were upset. Like it feels like you were just
pandering even more to a different crowd. Exactly.
But I also think that... foresight should have
prevented this ad from coming to be because in
the conversations that we're having socially
right now which is being on top of that is literally
the entire purpose of a marketing person if you're
hearing all of the stuff that's happening in
our social political whatever climate and you
want to have an ad come out with a blonde -haired
blue -eyed lady talking about how great her jeans
are you you have to understand that that's just
not going to play right it's not going to play
the way that you think it will you have to make
you have to make a decision you have to decide
what is more profitable either staying with the
status quo with what everything how everything
is now what marketing looks like right now what
advertisements look like right now or you've
tried to flip it on its head And you take the
controversy, you weather the controversy, and
then people are still talking about you however
long later. Do you think that it is valid in
this case to start a conversation that's just
going to piss people off because it will keep
the conversation going for longer? Yes. Even
though it's going to cause boycotting? Like,
wouldn't that kind of negate the point? When
is the last time you heard about American Eagle?
I haven't been to a mall in years. Okay. And
so now you're hearing about American Eagle. So
I think it was worth it for them. The people
that say they're going to boycott American Eagle
aren't the people that were shopping at American
Eagle in the first place. And that's the difference
between this and Bud Light is that Bud Light,
the people that said they were going to boycott
Bud Light were the people that were drinking
Bud Light on a daily basis. Were the people that
were making sure that the coffers stayed full.
And they said, screw y 'all, we're going to try
this now. And then the people, the consumers,
which they have every right to, decided where
they were going to put their money and then they
decided to take it away from Bud Light. And Bud
Light took a huge hit. If they had just come
out and said, hey, yeah, we're going to work
with Dylan Mulvaney because we just want to open
ourselves up to another audience. But that doesn't
mean that we don't have your back fully because
you've had our support this entire time. But
that's not what they did. What they did was say,
hey, screw the frat bros. We're going to put
all of our eggs in this basket. And it completely
obliterated their market share. So much so that
they had to get Shane Gillis and Post Malone
to come in and sweep up the mess and try to say,
no, no, we still love frat bros. We still love
you guys. We're sorry. quintessential frat bros
yeah so that that's the big difference and that's
that's the difference between getting a boycott
from the one side of the aisle versus the other
side of the aisle because i think when you when
you agitate uh i mean i don't i don't know if
this is true this is just general understanding
and and just from observations that i've had
from a lifetime of being online Generally, the
ones that are more likely to throw out the boycott
are going to be the Democrats. And generally,
I think that the Democrats are the ones that
will say that they're going to boycott, but then
you'll catch them sneaking in. Oh, I thought
you were boycotting this. Oh, yeah, but see,
I really need it. Like the whole Target stuff.
Remember when that was a big thing because of
all the bathrooms stuff? uh i knew like whenever
they were like no bathrooms are for everyone
whoever whatever however you identify go into
the bathroom right uh i knew people that i would
assume to their dying day they're passed away
now but it was a big enough issue for them where
they said i would never go to target ever again
and i feel like that was probably true um but
then you have stuff like uh i'm never gonna buy
a tesla And so you have people on the other side
of the aisle saying, I'm never going to buy a
Tesla. But then like, OK, but no, like he's like
calm down now. So like he's not technically in
the government anymore. So it's it's fine again.
Or, oh, Elon's back because he's not under Trump's
thumb anymore. And so I feel like under Trump's
thumb, you might be misunderstanding the power
dynamic there. Yeah, I think it was all it was
all business decisions. Do I think that? there
was disparage. Do I think that there was a misconduct
as far as the election goes? No. Do I feel like
there was, Elon helped Trump get in? Without
a doubt. And so I think that once Elon had fulfilled
his usefulness with the getting him elected by
propping him up leading up to the election and
then all the doge stuff that ended up not going
anywhere then trump cut him loose i don't think
there was some huge falling out i think that
they knew exactly what was going to play out
but again there are so you say you want to boycott
but then can you really hold that boycott out
People with the Bud Light really held that boycott
out. People that are mad at American Eagle aren't
the people that are shopping at American Eagle
anyways. So it's real easy to say I'm never going
to shop at American Eagle because you never shopped
there in the first place and you will continue
to not shop there. So it's real easy to get those
points, being an activist, being a protester,
when it doesn't affect your life anyways. I think
as far as the Target thing is concerned, they
did lose a good amount of money after the most
recent. push to boycott them because the the
most recent thing wasn't the bathrooms it was
the like dei initiatives that they just completely
abandoned the dei initiatives and the just cheap
lazy like lgbtq plus like pride month merch that
they eventually just got rid of because they
wanted to pander to a different kind of audience
oh there's a woman losing her mind because they
took the the stuff out and replaced it with fourth
of july stuff yeah But if you're going to promote
yourself as having these ideals, you can't just
sacrifice them because the conversation has shifted.
You're either about it or you're not, which I
think is a lot of the problem. But they have
actually had, from what I understand, financial
blowback from those changes. So much so that
they had to completely change their price match
policy. What do you mean? I mean, like they don't
price match anymore. I didn't know they did.
They're like they did. Yeah. You could go in
there and their price match online store ads,
anything like that. Yeah. I mean, they're definitely
feeling the blowback from it. And I think one
thing is like if you're going to change these
policies, don't do it when it's trendy. If you're
going to change these things, then just quietly
change them and say, hey, we're going to do this
now. But that's not what these people do because
they want the. They want the clicks. They want
the attention from, oh, well, we're doing this
like all these other people are doing. So we're
just as good as them. Yeah. And there has been
a huge shift in this kind of stuff. The most
ridiculous one is the Gulf of America thing.
Yeah. Trump comes in, he says, it's not the Gulf
of Mexico, it's the Gulf of America, because
we're in North America, South America, Central
America, it all touches America, it doesn't all
touch Mexico. Okay, fine, whatever. But then,
could you have imagined prior to the second Trump
presidency that a company like Google Or a company
like Apple would have changed that? Like, would
have changed the status quo? To say, oh, no,
we need to be America first. I mean, I wouldn't
imagine they should be the authority on any of
that stuff anyway. Regardless of what timeline
you're looking at. They shouldn't, but they're
front and center on this specific issue. Because
everyone either uses... Google Maps or Apple
Maps. And so for them to make that change, for
them to be willing to, for something so ridiculous,
all because they want to get those points and
they want to be on the side that's in power.
And it's all so obvious. And it's all just, it's
bananas that people think that these companies
are withholding to anything except for making
more money. And with that, you can invite controversy,
and it's either going to work out or it's not
going to work out. I don't know anyone who bought
more Pepsi because Kendall Jenner stopped racism.
I have that one on my list, too. But we still
talk about Pepsi and that commercial. We're still
trying to get sponsored by Pepsi. We still talk
about the ridiculous product placement in Madam
Web. From Pepsi. To be fair, we just talk about
Madam Web a lot. Of course, we're going to run
into a sponsorship every once in a while. But
I think that that kind of thing where like we've
just lost either the ability or the willingness
to be subtle is a lot of the reason that the
American Eagle stuff is getting so much backlash.
is that it's hard to take it in a context of
like, yeah, no, they were just riffing off of
this ad from the 80s or they were just talking
about the jeans or whatever. I don't think that
we have the capability anymore to exist without
the context. And so even if they are playing
to the people who are still shopping at American
Eagle, whoever those people might be, because
I don't really know, but it's still... It feels
really gross from that perspective, that you
don't go about any of this stuff without understanding
the context and doing it anyway. Even if the
point was to just be rage bait, which it likely
was, that someone saw it and was like, this is
how people are going to take it, because naturally,
and that is going to be good or bad for us. Regardless
of what side you're on, it starts the conversation.
I don't shop at American Eagle. I'm still talking
about them. And then you'll also get the boost
in sales from the people that are against the
people that are against your ad. So I don't know.
I would be interested to see what their numbers
look like a year from now versus last year. Six
months from now versus the last six months. Because
again, I don't think the people that are boycotting
or threatening to boycott or have a problem with
this ad are the ones that were... shopping there
anyways all right and that is that's enough on
on sydney sweeney uh the one that i had next
was a tie -in to all of the blowback from the
american eagle ad i don't think this one is deserved
i think it is just incredibly poorly timed and
that would be duncan donuts's new golden hour
refresher ad it came out within days of the american
eagle campaign i don't know are you familiar
with this ad Not really. I knew that it was something
to do that was very similar to the issues that
people had with the American Eaglehead. So the
general basis for this is that it is the golden
hour refresher, and it is this very tanned actor.
His name is Gavin. I don't remember what his
last name is. He's from The Summer I Turned Pretty.
He refers to it as having like the... Let me
see if I can get the actual... He claims that
his tan is due to great genetics. And that's
why they tie it back into the American Eagle
thing. But it's just not the same. This is just
a dude by a pool drinking a Dunkin' Donuts thing.
Just talking about how his tan is genetics. I
don't know. It feels... Very much like not the
same kind of issue. Not the same vaguely eugenic
message. It reads a lot differently, but a lot
of people are putting it on the same plane. Because
also, why are we talking about genetics so much
in our ads these days? What's the context around
it? What do you mean? what's the context around
him saying i tan because i have good genes or
whatever so um so in the ad he says this tan
genetics i just got my color analysis back and
guess what golden summer then he goes into promoting
the golden refresher which is not why is that
one less egregious Because that one doesn't even
have a pun attached to it. So that one is specifically
talking about his genes. But there's not as much
of a problem with that one as there is with the
Sidney Sweeney one? Is it because of the optics?
Because Sidney Sweeney is blonde hair and blue
eyes? No. I think that the issue with this one
is not the specific characteristics that give
her good genes. This one doesn't feel like it's
creating some kind of hierarchy. This dude is
just saying, like, actually, I don't know. I'm
not really sure what the difference would be.
It feels less egregious, and I don't think that
it's because of, like I said, the blonde -haired,
blue -eyed thing. Because in the Sydney Sweeney
one, she doesn't say, I have the best genes,
the genes that everyone should have. Yeah. And
in the Dunkin' Donuts one, he's saying, I have
this thing that people want because I have the
genes for it. So I have good genes because I
can tan. I can be golden hour tanned. Yeah. I
mean, he just says, this tan, genetics. That's
not really a... That one seems more out front
than the Sidney Sweeney one is. Maybe it's the
fact that... For the Dunkin' Donuts one, they're
just forthcoming with it. They're just saying,
yeah, this is because of my genes versus doing
a play on words and making a joke with it. Yeah.
Either way, I don't think either one of them
is. There was a commercial for something with
George. What's his name? Just. completely leathery
skin, George Hamilton. I don't know who that
is. Look up a picture of him. And his whole identity
was tanning. And there was a joke about, there
was an ad with him in it, having something to
do with him talking about his genetics and his
tan. And no one was up in arms over that. Oh,
he was the colonel? Yeah, he was the colonel
for a little bit. I don't know. Between Rob Riggle
and Reba. Alright, I think they're both in poor
taste. Because of the conversations and the fear
that is happening everywhere at the moment, it's
just weird to dial into genetics. Like, I think
it's just an odd choice. Is there a threat of
eugenicizing everyone? right now i mean i think
it's just fear in general i do think that that
is a fear to a lot of people it's a conversation
quite often but but how i i understand i understand
the historical context of it and the the uh it
being a leading factor in and things throughout
history but in today's age how why is it a concern
i don't know that i want to get too deep in the
weeds on that one just because again politics
are a divisive subject and i don't think that
that's necessarily a thing that i want to want
to get into here but I think a lot of the, the
conversation that's been had recently with like
alligator Alcatraz and the massive influx that
we have of like hiring new ice agents and stuff.
It's just, it's promoting a conversation that
revolves around racism. And I think because of
that, it is tone deaf to have ads like this.
When you're aware of what is happening. Okay,
yeah, I get that. I get that part. I was having
a conversation recently about alligator alcatraz
and some of the conversations that have been
had from figures in power about it. And the thing
that was said about 65 million people are about
to get fed to the alligators, that's paraphrasing,
but it's not far off. It's saying the quiet part
out loud. It feels like that is something you
should never say, A, because they're people,
and B, because that is not the figure that I
think a lot of people think it's supposed to
be. This is the Trumpification of everything.
And should people in power, people that have
the ability to make these decisions, Saying things
is off the cuff and as ridiculous as this. No.
No. It's the same problem. We talked about Beto
O 'Rourke a couple episodes ago, and it's the
same problem I had with him. Like, oh, this is
bullshit, and that's just supposed to be this
huge thing. Like, oh, my God, a politician finally
talking like me. But it's not doing what you
want it to do. It's not having the effect you
think it does. You are put in a position of power
to make these decisions, and we want someone
who is level -headed, who is respectful of both
sides, who can make the arguments for us towards
politicians that oppose us. in an eloquent way
in a way that is actually going to make change
happen you don't get that by just throwing around
a curse word every now and then oh i'm not a
person who's supposed to be cussing but i'll
say this i'm just so fired up i'm going to say
it like this and that's that's a that's a huge
problem that trump it's i think it's expected
of trump i don't know it's a problem that i have
with trump too it's a problem that i have with
uh all these politicians that think that that
is just there they can just say whatever they
want be as brash as possible and then that's
going to be all that they need it's the same
thing with Newsom trying to start stuff on Twitter
with JD Vance with Trump with all these other
people it's the same thing with clips of Jasmine
Crockett that go all over the place and whatever
But I do think that those become the headlines
when the other stuff just gets pushed to the
back. When the stuff that actually is the actual
policies, is the actual things that are happening,
gets pushed to the back because it's just a smokescreen.
All the cussing and all the just idiocracy of
it is the smokescreen for what's actually happening
in the background. Whenever you start throwing
in issues, like when you start saying phrases
like eugenics, when you start associating all
these things with these other things, you are
trying, it's the same thing. You're trying to
make it as brash as possible so that you can
get people talking as much about it as possible,
and then it's just a smokescreen. I think that
the ICE isn't new. Detention centers aren't new.
It's the way it was gone about. It's the brashness
of it. It's the fact that we're going to put
a prison in the middle of the Everglades. If
they want to escape, have fun being alligator
food. It's the, okay, well, they're trying to
get all these people deported. This is eugenics.
It's all the same stuff. It's all making sure
that you escalate it to the point where you can...
Make sure as many people are talking about it
as possible. And you misconstrue it. You conflate
things, one thing with another, that really aren't
the same at all. And so you want to try to feed
into the, which I don't think that the American
Eagle thing is feeding into. I think it's just
a, I won't even say it's a bad joke. I mean,
it's something from the 80s. It's just recycled
from the 80s. But now, because of the time, it
has a different context, right? The one with
Brick Shields was the same thing. To some extent,
yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I do think that maybe
there's a time and place for everything and that
maybe this wasn't the time for it, but do I think
that they should be put over the coals for it
because they made a joke? Like, this generation
is all about reboots. There's nothing original.
Why are we surprised that this isn't original
either? So at the end of the day, I think it's
just, it's lazy because they just wanted to take
something from before and make it, renew it and
make it, not important, but they wanted to make
it top of mind again. And they just happened
to re -release it at a time that it could be
controversial enough to get a lot of people talking
about it. Yeah. I mean, I think as far as the,
like the smoke screen things go, No, ICE is not
new. No, the detention centers aren't new. But
the way that they're going about it has changed.
Partially because, like I said, they're saying
the quiet part out loud. The thing that was said
about 65 million meals for the alligators is
the Hispanic population of the U .S. That's not
based on the amount of illegal immigrants that
we have in this country. It's based on the amount
of Hispanic people. Who said it? Laura Loomer.
Oh, good Lord. The fact that it's starting a
conversation, I think, is still important. Because
when you have people that are in positions where
they can actually make change happen, and they
are promoting these kind of ideals, it's dangerous.
Yes, it's not the most important thing that's
happening because there's still policies getting
implemented behind the scenes that are drastically
different from the conversations that we're hearing
or the clickbait that we're falling prey to or
whatever. Sure. as far as the ice agents go whenever
like trump ran on largely two things and it was
fixing the illegal immigrant population and the
epstein list he immediately abandoned one of
them the second that he got elected again and
the other one he's doubled down on but In doubling
down on that, whenever people voted for him,
largely because he was so loud and upfront about
the fact that he was going to do X, Y, and Z,
those people are the ones that are racing to
apply to these new ICE positions that opened
up or these new jobs that have been created in
that specific realm. A lot of those people applied
to those jobs, not because they are necessarily
the best suited for the job, but because they
fell prey to... all of the things that they were
told to believe. That is dangerous when you give
people like that power. In the same way that
whenever all of the ICE raids started happening,
Gavin Newsom came out against the ones that were
in California saying that the ICE agents shouldn't
be allowed to have masks. And it feels a lot
in that situation like there are valid reasons
to have masks. Because if you're trying to...
Like if you're trying to deport people that don't
belong in this country anyway, then theoretically
those people have dangerous connections. But
also you have the ability to hide behind a mask
in the same way that you can say dumb things
online all of the time without any kind of consequence,
because at the end of the day, you're just a
profile. You're not an actual person. And so
it's, it's, I think a different conversation.
It's not the most important thing to be talking
about, but it is still important. The fact that
we have people in power that are parroting these
kind of ideas is a problem. That is. And that's
something that should be addressed. Will it be
addressed? Probably not. Right. If enough people
are vocal about it, then maybe. Maybe. Slowly
but surely. As far as the mask thing goes, I
don't know. Because everyday people... On the
internet, you get someone riled up, all of a
sudden they're hunting down your IP address and
they're sending a SWAT team to your house. Yeah.
You're hired to do a job that is dangerous, and
so some anonymity may not be such a bad idea.
That does give you a certain level of power to
do some... things undetected but just like any
other job you have a certain level of responsibility
if you decide to abuse that then you should be
punished for that yeah that doesn't mean that
every single one of them is bad that doesn't
mean that there aren't people that are that truly
want to do the job that they were hired to do
like they're supposed to do it and sometimes
you need some help with maybe not being as identifiable
as possible I know that there was also discourse
of him making those statements, but then all
these riots in California happening with people
protesting and destroying their cities, all of
them being masked up, people looting these places
all masked up. So I think that if someone were
to make that statement, I don't think Newsom
was the one to make it. And I think that in order
to accomplish the goal that they are trying to
accomplish, I think that there's going to be
some times where there's a difficult transitionary
period, and that's what we're in right now. I
do think that the rhetoric that surrounded this
last election on both sides was meant to incite
as many people as possible. And this is the outcome
from that. It's the clickification of our world
today. Everything's got to be a soundbite. Nothing
has any nuance. Everything has to be fed to you,
shoved in your face in the first 15 seconds or
else no one's going to care about it. I don't
know how you put that back in the box. I don't
know how you bring nuance back. I don't know
how... You bring civility back to any of this.
But I think that going after a company, going
after a spokesperson over an ad that made you
feel a certain kind of way is ridiculous. And
I think you're just feeding into it. Sure. You're
feeding into the machine. That is feeding into
everyone's fury, everyone's rage, everyone's
whatever's. And it just is so, I don't know.
Like I said, I don't see a solution to it. I
don't see putting Pandora back in the box. Sure.
Is Pandora in the box? Or is it just Pandora's
box? I think it's Pandora's box. I don't think
Pandora is in it. Just chaos? Chaos. Okay. Either
way, you can't put it back in the box. Yeah.
I mean, I think that Gen Z is making some moves
to not try to close the box, because I do think
we are too far gone in that respect, but to at
least mitigate the damage that it's causing.
like a lot of the the gen z people that are trying
to move towards like the move towards flip phones
it is crazy how many of those i see in austin
or the move towards digital cameras instead of
keeping your smartphone on you the the people
that are conscious of the environment that they
were raised in and are trying to be different
because of it in that specific realm i think
that that is That and having constructive conversations
where you either are upfront about the fact that
you don't know everything, because I think that
is fundamentally the issue with so much of this,
is that I don't know what I'm talking about,
but I don't care. The louder that I get, the
more that I feel like I'm getting my point across,
which is just never the case. The more that I
yell at you about the things that I believe in,
the less you are going to listen to me. the less
likely you are to believe me or anyone who believes
what I believe. And the more bullheaded I am
towards like the conversation that we're having,
the less productive it gets. The more we start
to alienate each other. The whole thing is supposed
to be a agree to disagree situation. And we,
for some reason, societally feel like we're just
incapable of it now. You either agree with me
or. you're wrong and I hate you. Like I've had
so many political conversations where the person
is so clearly not trying to hear a thing that
I say. They're just trying to be in their own
echo chamber. Like you can't start a political
conversation if you're not here for any kind
of nuance. I'm not here to validate you. I might
agree with some of the stuff you say, but at
the end of the day, like I'm still, I have the
beliefs that I have. They're malleable. I will
change them over time because that's what being
a person is. But like, that's not, I don't know.
It's the, it's just exhausting. The fact that
we're not capable of having a conversation with
any kind of nuance these days. Yeah, that is,
uh, that's very frustrating. And it just, it
leaves you to, it puts you in a, place where
you just don't want to interact with anybody
yeah because you don't you don't want to deal
with it and i think that's a reasonable place
to be because i think first and foremost should
be your own sanity and so if you waste all your
time worrying about other people's opinions and
other people's feelings and and all that then
you're you're not taking care of yourself first
so I don't know, man. That was a lot more of
a political, a lot longer of a political stint
than I thought there would be in this episode.
Do you want to, could we spread that? How much
do you have? How much more do you have? I mean,
we covered one and a half of my like seven different
ads. So, I mean, I've got some wiggle room. I
can talk more about the other ones. Okay. You
want to split this to a two -parter? Yeah. Works
for me. Okay. And that's what we'll do. Do you
have any closing words of wisdom? I have a mission
for any of our listeners. Oh, here we go. Sometime
between this episode and when you listen to the
next one, however long that may be, hopefully
Thursday to Thursday, have a conversation with
another person where you agree to disagree. Not
everything is black and white. You can be wrong
about things and you cannot know all of the facts.
Accept that and don't try to bully people into
your narrative. Listen. That's all I got. Anything
for us? Any listeners? Search for the nuance.
Make a concerted effort to find the nuance in
whatever you're talking about. Whatever. You're
dealing with. Find the nuance. There's not a
right or wrong. It's not a yes or no. It's not
a black or white. Find the nuance. And with that.
And with that. We'll see you for part two. We'll
see you. Peace out Girl Scouts. Make sure you
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