Rob Schneider in Herb -a -derb -a -herb -a -derb
-a. Five, four, three, two, one, zero. Welcome
to the show, people. Welcome to the show. Eat
my shorts. So here is to conversation. Tranquility
base here. Vehicle has landed. Welcome to the
Cash Exchange. Welcome. Three things for the
day. What do you got? Toy Story, Fuller House,
The Carter 3. Toy Story, Fuller House, The Carter
3. The Carter. T -H -A, Carter 3. The Carter
3. Yeah. I don't know why, but whenever you said
Toy Story, Fuller House, my through line was
like Tom Hanks, hands down. That makes absolutely
no sense. It makes no sense. Except for the fact
that Full House was on ABC and Disney owns ABC,
I guess. Okay. So there is a through line there.
But that is not the through line. The Carter
3 is Lil Wayne, right? Yep. Nate would be so
disappointed in me if I got that wrong. All right.
I'll just give it to you. Thank you. They are...
Oh, shit. Is there not a... Okay. No. I'll just
take out the er part because it should have been
Full House. Okay. They are iterations of things
that had something come after them that were
either real good in the case of Toy Story, decent
in the case of Fuller House, or hot garbage in
the case of The Carter 3. Okay. So I don't know
if you're up to date on your hip -hop news. Are
you in the rap game? I wasn't totally sure that
that was Lil Wayne, so let's just go ahead and
guess no. So you're not staying abreast with
all the ins and outs of the rap game currently?
I have a general idea of what happened between
Kendrick and Drake. Oh. That's the most current
thing I've got going on. That's like surface
-level stuff, and that was months ago. I mean,
it was a long -standing thing. There were shots
fired on both sides. There were, and Kendrick
definitely won. Yeah. Because I can't hear a
minor anywhere else. It immediately goes to Kendrick.
Yeah, that's... So Toy Story had... What's a
predecessor? What's the opposite of a predecessor?
What comes after? Successor? Oh, God, I should
have known that. A successor in Toy Story 2.
And in my opinion, is Light Years above Toy Story
1. I would say it's on par with Toy Story 2,
or Toy Story 3. And I don't even consider Toy
Story 4 canon. It's a pretty movie. definitely
tied for top spot in the Toy Story universe.
Where does Lightyear fall? Fuller House. Also
not part of the canon. It's voiced by Captain
America. Come on. It would be better than Toy
Story 4, but not better than original Toy Story.
Fair. Have you seen Fuller House? I watched,
I think, the first season. How'd you feel about
it? I was not as anti -like. prequels, reboots
at the time that it came out. That changed pretty
quickly. It was stupid. Unnecessary. Just ridiculous.
In the same way that Raven's Home or the Wizards
of Waverly Place let the thing die. The IP is
going to have a special place in people's hearts.
It is not going to if you keep digging up the
dead. Run it into the ground. I completely agree.
All that stuff just seems real. It has a stench
of cash grabbiness. And just people from the
80s, 90s, early 2000s, what have you, needing
work. Yeah. And so they're just like, hey, can
we get this going again, please? Do what everybody
else did. Start a podcast. Be like those insufferable
Neds Declassified people. And then crash and
burn like the Neds Declassified people. To be
fair, their podcast was weird. It was weird.
No one wants to know how often... You middle
schoolers were sleeping together on set. That
is not the lore anybody wants from Ned's Declassified.
And it's not like Moe's was like the teenage
boy's dream. Who's that for? Who's that for other
than just for you to be talking about it? For
you to make something that's clippable and can
go viral on TikTok. Yeah. Until you went too
viral. On TikTok. And now, where you at? Is that
even still a podcast? Are they still doing that?
Barista -ing again. I have no clue. Barista -ing?
I haven't seen it. I would assume they're barista
-ing. I don't know. Is that what every former
actor looks like after their fall from grace?
That's the stereotype. Yeah. Barista -ed. Okay.
So, what do you know about The Carter 3? Not
a thing. Wow. What do you know about the Carter
six? There's six? Uh -huh. The sixth one just
came out. I got nothing. A week and a half ago,
two weeks ago. I'm not a big Lil Wayne person.
No? Yeah, I mean, let's see. When I was in the
seventh grade, seventh, eighth grade, you were
in? First. What? First or second? Yeah. Yeah,
so. You probably weren't aware of how prevalent
Lil Wayne was in literally everything. Everywhere.
Lil Wayne. If they needed to fill in 15 seconds
of a song, boom, Lil Wayne was there. He was
the herpes of music during that time. Everywhere.
Okay, so I wanted to listen to the album, The
Carter Six, because this is the first one he's
had in a long time. and everyone got real hopeful
because he was, for whatever reason, he performed
at the SNL 50th anniversary show. And people
were like, oh, it's Lil Wayne. That's strange.
He must be coming out with something. And he
just did a medley of all of his old stuff, but
they assumed new stuff was coming. And so I was
driving to San Antonio. It's about a five -hour
drive towards the back end of it. I put on the
album, The Carter Six. Nah. Not my cup of tea.
Yeah. Maybe it's because I'm a different person
than what I was when he was big and The Carter
3 came out. Because just for reference, The Carter
3 had Lollipop, A Millie, Got Money, and Mrs.
Officer on it. Okay. Whereas this album, The
Carter 6, has a line in his song Bells that says,
Eyes tight like my name, Wong ding ding dong.
Oof. And it just doesn't hit the same. And honestly,
listening to that album, I would be interested
in either doing a full episode going through
just the strangest lines in that entire album
or doing a part two to our episode of Out of
Pocket Lyrics. Yeah. Okay. I think there could
be a rap -specific version of that. Like Ryman
Mansion with Wisconsin. Anyways, so Toy Story,
Full House, The Carter III. These are things
that were originals. I mean, The Carter III was
technically a third album, but the third one
was his biggest one. And the successors, some
of them had popularity. Some of them were very
good, but then also some of them were very bad.
And that brings us to the topic of today, nepotism
and nepo babies. Real quick, my through line
was so much more straightforward than yours.
Yeah? What was it? I did what do Rare Beauty,
Casamigos Tequila, and Goop have in common. What
is it? They're things that only got big because
they're attached to big -name celebrities. Oh.
Yeah? Casamigos, is that George Clooney? Yeah.
Coe Wetzel has a song about Casamigos. Yeah?
It's how Mary Jane got his license suspended
and then Casamigos made him lose all of his friends.
Oh. So I guess maybe not a ringing endorsement
for George Clooney. Probably not, yeah. Or his
brand, but it's a good song. You should check
it out. But that is a good one. Then I wouldn't
have flubbed the Full House Fuller House part.
If I had done Road Beauty, it would have worked
on two levels because all three of those people
would have been nepo babies. road baby road beauty
that's uh hayley beavers oh yeah yeah your girl
made it on here and i had to make a special note
about which baldwin her dad was because i knew
i knew it wasn't the shooter steven so it's steven
it is are there other baldwins i don't billy
yes there's three there's billy there's alec
there's steven and i think there's one more that
is like the uh the bonus jonas yeah So when you
think of Nepo babies, who comes to mind first?
First, and this is just because I watched Companion
super recently, is Jack Quaid. He's just the
one that's like super recently on everything.
On a scale of one to ten, where would you put
him? Ten being, he could have made it on his
own. He could have made it eventually. I really
like Jack Quaid. I really liked him in The Boys,
in Companion. He was like briefly, I think, in
the Hunger Games. I don't think that he necessarily
would have made it on his own. Was he in the
Rachel Zegler one? No, he's in the OG. He's one
of the tributes of Jennifer Lawrence's first
Hunger Games. Like he's good, but I don't think
he's like spectacular. I don't think there's
anything specifically stand out about him. He
does come from a high pedigree. Dennis Quaid
and Meg Ryan. Yeah, I think I would rate him
relatively high. I think he's like a more modern
Jesse Eisenberg, but not nearly as annoying.
That's fair. Has a little more range, but essentially
the same like nerdy, like down on his luck guy
in everything he's in. Yeah. Even, yeah, because
Companion, the boys. What else have I seen him
in? Oh, there's that. uh novocaine have you seen
that yet not yet i want to watch it i think it's
coming to streaming soon yeah just like the uh
kind of the simp boy who is uh either forced
into being the hero or he is turns into a caricature
like an incel super douche that's fair i kind
of like what they did with huey like towards
the the newer season of the boys I didn't really
care. When he took his compound V? Yeah, when
he took the V. When he got some V. It was because
you saw him butt -ass naked. That's when you
knew that he had something special. Yeah, that's
exactly what it was. I just liked whenever they
made him a little bit less of just the puppy
dog of the team when he actually had some kind
of depth to him. Yeah. What was that? This chair
is not well built. So he would definitely be
a high pedigree. What about O'Shea Jackson? You
know who he is? I do. Crushed ice. It's not a
full ice cube. I have only seen him act, I think,
in two things. Straight out of Compton, obviously,
where he absolutely killed it. I don't remember
what the other thing was. I liked him in it.
He was in Den of Thieves with Gerard Butler.
I don't think that's what I'm thinking of. And
then he's in the second one with, I believe,
Gerard Butler's in that one too. I don't think
it was an action movie that I saw him in. He
really surprised me in Straight Outta Compton
because I didn't know who he was. But the first
time, and you see O'Shea Jackson, you're not
going to immediately go to Ice Cube. But you
watch this movie and you're like, that dude.
That's a lot like Ice Cube, and he looks like
him too. That's crazy. How'd they find this actor?
And then it turns out that because that's his
son. Yeah. And then the guy that played Dr. Dre,
something Hawks, he was pretty good too. Yeah.
And looked pretty similar to young Dr. Dre. Let
me get his name. Make sure that he gets his Corey
Hawkins. Okay. Originally when researching this
episode, I wanted to highlight the crazier ones.
Okay. Like the ones that have just like, just
have no ground in reality. Okay. Like the Smith
kids. The Smith kids. Yes. Those top of mind
followed by Haley Bieber. I think Paris Hilton's
kind of leveled out a little more recently. But
really, I couldn't find that much, except there's
like a whole bunch of lists about all these reporters
coming to these people and saying, so how does
it feel to be a nepo baby? How does it feel to
know that you didn't work like everyone else
had to to get where you are? And I just feel
like that's an unfair question. Sure. I feel
like that's a question that you should ask to
maybe, I don't know, people like Dakota Johnson.
Yeah, no, she's... I love Dakota Johnson. She's,
as John Oliver put it, magnificently weird. But
she's also not good at acting. She's not. Her
nonchalant thing just does not work in an actual
role. The only thing that she has going for her
is that she can be self -deprecating about it.
And that's why I think she still gets all these
roles. I mean, is she self -deprecating, though?
Because she basically just crapped on all of
the people who made Madam Web, not the fact that
she was terrible in Madam Web. She did the same
thing with Fifty Shades. But I think she knew
that it wasn't, like, it was a paycheck movie.
I don't think she's ever done not a paycheck
movie. Everyone involved. Yeah, I don't either.
Bad Times at the El Royale was pretty solid.
I thought that was a fun movie. Yeah. Yeah, I
had a problem with it, but I haven't seen it
in so long that I don't remember what the problem
was. But it also had a very stacked cast. What,
Jeff Bridges, Chris Hemsworth. Cynthia Erivo.
Before. Before she started holding space for
Elphaba. No, that wouldn't have been my issue
with it at the time. Now I would probably have
a hard time watching it just because she's insufferable.
Yeah. Theater kids tend to be. Yeah. I say that
like I wouldn't have been a theater kid if I
had a theater program in school. I know what
I'm about. These people, they swing one of two
ways. They either swing into the, I worked to
get here. Like, yeah, my dad is, I don't know,
Phil Collins. Yeah, she's also not great. But
I am here based on my own merit. That's why I've
stuck around. Like, okay. But I mean, once you
get enough name recognition, you can go into
anything and then you're in it because of your
name, which is because of the person before you.
And I think Lily Collins and Phil had falling
out, didn't they? I don't know on that one. I
think so. I know that he has had some health
issues, and now he has to do all his performances
from a chair. Yeah. You want to know another
fun fact that ties Phil Collins in with San Antonio?
What? So this Brit, Phil Collins, driving artistic
force behind one of the greatest... Disney soundtracks
of all time. Did not need to go that hard, but
I'm glad that they did. We're all better. Tarzan.
So he is obsessed with the Alamo, much like me.
Okay. So probably in like the 80s and beyond,
he got real into collecting Alamo artifacts.
Okay. And he would spend millions of dollars.
collecting these artifacts from the Alamo. Maybe
they would find a musket or a uniform, something
like that. And he would be in these auctions,
and he'd pay hundreds of thousands or a million
dollars for this stuff. And they're building
a museum adjacent to the Alamo that's going to
have a bunch of artifacts in it. It's going to
have a 40 theater. It's going to have all this
stuff. based around the Alamo. And so he wanted
to have some of his stuff displayed there. So
it got sent here. They ran it through the testing.
And it turns out that like half of the stuff
is just forgeries. Oh. Half of the stuff that
he paid all this money for is fake. Damn. He
couldn't have... I feel like there's some kind
of authentication process that should have happened
before. You would think so. That's insane. So
this little English drummer man paid all this
money for everything about the battle that took
place between Texas and Mexico in the 1800s,
and a majority of it is just crap. I mean, it's
still old stuff from the area, but none of it
can be sourced to the Alamo. Yeah. And that's
just really got to suck. Not for nothing, but
Little English Drummer Man is the understatement
of a lifetime. And we wish the best to him in
all of his health endeavors. Of course. One question
I had for you was, do you consider the Kardashians
nepo babies? I was thinking about that whenever
I was doing research for this. And yes, I do
think that the Kardashian -Jenner clan are nepo
babies. The Jenners, obviously, in two different
routes. But for the Kardashians, I think because
of how incredibly public the O .J. Simpson trial
was. Yes. What was it? Robert Kardashian? Robert
Kardashian, yeah. Robert Kardashian was absolutely
a celebrity. So anyone making fame, because if
Kim Kardashian had released a sex tape just being
her, I don't think that it would have gone anywhere
because there wouldn't have been any reason for
it to go viral. Probably not, because at that
point she was Paris Hilton's assistant. Yeah.
So, like, it just containing Ray J is not anything.
And thanks to that sex tape money, he was able
to go off and start Raycons. Hashtag not sponsored,
but would love to be. They literally sponsor
everyone else. They do, yeah. Raycons and Rage
Shadow Legends. Literally everyone on the planet
except for us. Ridge wallets. Ridge wallets.
Ridge wallets. The untucking. Reach out and get
us a code. HelloFresh. What else is there? I
refuse to be sponsored by BetterHelp. I hate
them. What's the one that's just TV dinners?
Factor. Factor. It's meal prep, but healthy.
I've never thought of it as a TV dinner, but
that might have ruined my perspective on factor
meals. It's a TV dinner. That's all it is. Oh,
just pop this in the microwave when you're in
a rush. What's the difference between this and
a hungry man? Absolutely nothing. There's a joke
here, and I don't know what it is. Have you ever
had a run -in with any nepo babies? I don't.
You're not a con person. I'm not a con person
either. No. I don't go to places where I'm going
to be inundated with nepotism. I would love to
be a con person, but at the same time, it's one
of those things that falls by the wayside because
of how pissed off I am that everything is so
expensive. I don't do live music. I don't do
conventions and big events and stuff. Oh, but
you do the 25th anniversary of Dogma? First of
all, didn't buy those tickets. Second of all,
absolutely, I'm watching the 20th anniversary
of Dogma. It's in 4K and the only way I've ever
seen that movie. It's at 144p on YouTube. It's
a bootleg. There's a guy who gets up to go to
the bathroom every 10 minutes. It's great. Well,
I'm happy for you. I'm happy you get to experience
that. I have had a run -in with a Nepo baby.
Who's that? Maya Hawk. Oh, yeah. We were lucky
enough to get more tickets to the Heiress Tour.
in Arlington at the Cowboy Stadium. And as we
were walking in, so there was two tents that
flanked, like, the middle aisle. And they had,
like, these director chairs set up, and there
was, like, three rows, maybe, like, six wide.
As we're walking by, there's these big, beefy
dudes. They're, like, putting their hands...
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Like, okay, man. Like...
I'm cool. I'm just walking through. Like, this
is a path. You can't block off the only path
I have to my seat. And I look over behind this
little gate under this tent, and it's Ethan Hawke.
He's just hanging out there waiting for the show
to start. Waiting for, uh, I can never remember
her name. Beep -bop -boop. Shoop -a -doop. Scoopy.
What was her name? Oh, Baba Doopy? Yeah. I don't
know if that's right, but that's the way that
I read it every time. Just waiting for her to
start. And then as the show starts and it's going
on or whatever, and yeah, Maya Hawk is just there
at that same rail when I go to, I think I went
to go get a water or something. Fun fact, the
men's room, for whatever reason, they wouldn't
open up the men's room for the women. I mean,
this building was 99 .7 % women, and none of
the men's rooms were open up to women. I walked
into one bathroom that was, the women's room
was easily 45 women deep. And I literally, I
just walked right into the men's room, took care
of my business, hung out a little bit, stretched
my legs out, washed my hands, and then walked
right out. And all these women yelling at me
like, hey, I don't make the rules. Yeah. Like,
sorry, I got a penis. It was glorious. I would
imagine. That and we had the most convenient
seats to be on the floor because it was, there
were chairs there, but they were all zip tied,
like down the row. Yeah. So all these chairs
were technically attached, but we were on the
very back row. Of the floor. And so I just cut
the zip ties and we were just able to walk right
out there without having to interrupt anybody.
It was real nice. Cut the zip ties. You rule
breaker. Don't tell Taylor. So that, that was
my one run in that I know of with a, uh, with
a Nepo baby. If you were to meet a Nepo baby,
who would you want to meet? If I were to meet
a Nepo baby, I think it would be really cool
to meet Maya Hawk. She seems like she would be.
A good hang. But also, either Jamie Lee Curtis
or Ben Stiller. Yeah, people don't think about
Ben Stiller, and I think that that's a good thing.
People think of your work more than your parents'
work as far as separating yourself from being
considered a nepo baby. Do you think that a person
is still considered a nepo baby if they get more
famous than their parents? I was trying to, like...
decide if like Ben Stiller and like Miley Cyrus
were actually considered Nepo babies because
they only got into the industry because their
family was part of the industry. Yeah. But they've
also very much eclipsed them. Like, I don't know.
So that's something I was, I was thinking about
too. Cause there's, there's all kinds of lists.
First off, I'd like to say that the conversation
around Nepo babies is pretty mean. Sure. Yeah.
I didn't want to make this episode just to bash
on all these people. Oh, do you have these things?
They had this leg up and I didn't. That kind
of stuff. But that is most of the conversations
you're going to find online is, oh, these people
have famous parents and this is why they're where
they are. That's not always true. That is a leg
up. Yeah. But you can have a leg up in any other
industry. You can know the right people and get
put in front of the right people and still be
successful. Right. It doesn't has nothing to
do with your lineage. But another list that I
came across was one that was saying this list
of celebrities, these nepo babies are more famous
than their parents ever were. And Ben Stiller
was the top of most of them. Sure. Miley Cyrus
was on a lot of them. Who else was there? Zoe
Kravitz was on there. As bigger than Lenny Kravitz?
Yeah, I thought it was weird too. That sounds
deeply correct. She always made like the beginning
of the list. Like they're just, they're putting
their throwaways in there. Okay. Before they
get to the ones that people actually care about.
Kaya Gerber. As more famous than Cindy Crawford.
The only thing I know about Kaya Gerber is that
she stole Austin Butler from Vanessa Hudgens.
I don't even know that to be true. I just know
that Austin Butler was with Vanessa Hudgens for
like a decade. And then when they ended things,
he ended up with Kaya Gerber. Yeah. And then
Paris Hilton. Which I don't think that one's
fair because they're in two completely different
businesses. She made a platform off growing up
rich. Obscenely rich. Also, I think... Also sex
tape. Well, yeah. One night in Paris. Best name
for a sex tape. I think that Paris Hilton gets
too bad of a rep. I think she gave the early
2000s exactly what they asked for, which was
reality TV about... rich people being dumb, but
she's not dumb. Yes, she's not. And even, even
the voice was a put on. Yeah. Which I had no
idea until like, I don't know. Her actual speaking
voice is so like, it's so nice. It's so soothing.
She doesn't have that like Valley girl affectation.
Yeah. Uh, another fun fact is I was driving back
from El Paso to home to Fort Worth. I went through
a city. that had the first hotel that Conrad
Hilton ever bought. Oh. It was the first Hilton
hotel, and just in this small town in Texas,
Cisco, Cisco, Texas. The first hotel that Conrad
Hilton ever bought, and then that started the
empire. Interesting. People, whenever she started
coming out as a DJ, people were, like, giving
her a lot of flack because... That was the only
thing. They thought that was the only thing she
could do. And, like, it was just a sign of her
being desperate for money. And, one, she's never
going to be desperate for money. That's insane.
Two, DJing is hard. Yeah. It is very hard. And,
three, like, she just wanted something to do.
She doesn't have to ever work. God forbid a girl
have a hobby. So why not? Why not be on the ones
and twos? I don't get it. I mean, I think a lot
of it is a holdover from Simple Life, a reality
show with Nicole Richie, and the sex tape. I
think a lot of that solidified her, and the fact
that, yeah, she's a nepo baby to this hotel gazillionaire.
A lot of that solidified everyone's opinion of
her from the beginning, and I don't think that
there was any way she was going to be able to
make her way out of that. Sure. But, I mean,
she used the narrative that was written for her.
To her advantage. Made a badass life for herself.
She did. And people know her name. What about
the more generational nepotism, I guess? Isn't
all nepotism, almost all nepotism generational?
I don't think so. I'm talking about like multiple
generations. Oh, okay. Like, I mean, I have on
this list like Alison Williams, Brian Williams'
daughter. How did Brian Williams get his start?
I don't know. That's not someone you think about.
But you know who is generational? Dakota Johnson.
Drew Barrymore. Yeah. Her dad was a filmmaker
by most accounts, just an all -around terrible
person and father. And then her grandfather,
you know who he was? No. You've seen him. You
saw him in December. You partook in my annual
It's a Wonderful Life tradition. Mr. Potter.
That is her grandfather. Interesting. Okay. The
curmudgeon. Yeah. The guy that's trying to steal
everyone's stuff. The curmudgeon. We don't use
that word enough. Yeah. That's her grandfather.
Interesting. Okay. And then as far as movies
or like film goes, that realm, that's one of
the... few that i could come up with that just
i had any interest in talking about just because
i think that she is like the poster child for
uh what how nepotism can go wrong i think so
i think so i mean if you if you've heard stories
about her like getting drunk and high at like
10 and like 10 and i mean that was all because
the people she was hanging around because the
people that her family was involved with all
these celebrities and all this this other And
then but I mean, it's also like it's a cautionary
tale, but then it's also a it has a relatively
happy ending, I think. I mean, she seems to be
thriving with her talk show and making terrible
America phobic ads for Carnival Cruise, Royal
Caribbean, whichever one it is. I don't think
it's either. It's like a British cruise line.
I'm almost positive. Well, that makes sense.
Okay, well, sorry, Carnival or Caribbean. No,
they're still terrible, I'm pretty sure. The
one she has with Mr. Perry. Yeah, Orlando Bloom.
Mr. Perry. Would you ever go on a cruise? Have
you ever been on a cruise? The husband of an
astronaut put some respect on his name. No, I've
never been on one. I would like to go on one.
Probably once. Where would you want to go? It's
a boat full of tons of the worst people you'll
ever meet. I've always really loved the idea
of the Alaskan cruises and stuff. Yeah. Or just
to Mexico or the Bahamas or somewhere like that.
One of those two areas. Yeah. I think you have
a much less likely chance of getting trafficked
if you're going to Alaska. Sure. than you would
if you were going south. Hey, that's just me.
The odds of getting attacked by a moose and or
polar bear are also much greater, I assume, in
Alaska than in Mexico. You win some, you lose
some. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they have bear spray.
I don't think they have trafficker spray. I think
bear spray is, in fact, trafficker spray. Have
you been bear -maced? I haven't, but I've heard
things. I sure have not. You know, so I also
had a list of the most insufferable children.
I did too. Who you got? Well, Haley Bieber makes
the top of the list. Do you think that Haley
Bieber would be as annoying as we think Haley
Bieber would be if she weren't surrounded by
so much media that doesn't give her any actual
ability to speak? I feel like so much of the
problem with Haley Bieber is just that, like,
we're speculating what's going on with her and
Justin. Justin's having a time. And then we're
just speculating that she may have stalked him
since age 10. Can we get them both some help?
I mean, it would probably be a good idea, but
I don't see it happening. And no, I refuse that
sponsorship. Not sponsored. We're not getting
sponsored by BetterHelp. What do you have against
BetterHelp? It's garbage. Why? It's just a garbage
service because they don't qualify the people
that work there. It's a side hustle, which therapy
should not be. Okay, but they also don't qualify
most of the teachers that are teaching our youths.
You do know that's not better. Don't worry. They
also don't qualify real teachers. Lovely. Fantastic.
Okay, well. I might keep this in the episode
just as a PSA, but okay. I get your point. I
get it. I get it. There was a, um, so I was on
a couple of the different like web based therapy
things when I didn't have insurance. And there
was a guy that I had as my therapist for a couple
of months. We had talked. a good amount about
like where I was at. And one of the things that
had like been really frustrating me at the time
was that I didn't have consistency. So like I
would make plans with people and they just like,
wouldn't show up to the thing or like would cancel.
They wouldn't show up or you wouldn't show up.
They wouldn't show up. So like we would have
a plan set and then like all of a sudden they'd
be like, Oh, actually I have to do this today.
Like, cool. I feel like you knew that sooner,
but it happened enough times that it was like
something that I brought up in therapy and he
knew that this was like a big issue for me. The
next session that I had, the next session doesn't
show. Not a message, not anything. That's exposure
therapy. I'm sitting in the conference room in
my apartment building, staring at my own face
in my laptop, waiting for this guy to show up.
Nothing. Dead silence. I messaged him. I'm like,
hey, so we got a session at 11 a .m., right?
Nothing. A day later, a day later, this man messages
me and he goes. I'm sorry, you won't be billed
for this session. Like there wasn't one. What
do you mean? So the next week we have a session
and he messages me five minutes before my session
and is like, I won't be able to attend today's
meeting. Here's a like workbook thing you can
work on. And so I shoot him a message. I'm like,
Hey, this ain't working out. Like I need to charge
for that. I don't think so. I'm giving you a
link for a walkbook. I don't think so. But I
shoot him a message. I'm like, hey, this isn't
working out. I told you that one of the big things
that I'm working on was consistency, and this
is the thing that really bothers me. I was like,
I think I'm going to have to find another therapist.
He messages me back almost immediately and goes,
well, actually, I had something going on with
my family, but that's fine. I'm like, this therapist
is gaslighting me. And this man was very clear
from the start that this was his side hustle
to pay for his doctorate. So this man was in
school doing actual therapy in his nine to five
and was just picking up clients for funsies to
gaslight them. So I see no sponsorship. Okay.
Okay. So we'll take them off the list. Making
a note now. But I mean, like if they offer us
like an unbelievable offer, then like. We can
put our morals aside, right? I will not say a
word. You can do the ad read. That's fine. Hey,
you know what I've been struggling with lately?
Co -host abandonment. You're just silent. You
know who could help me through this? BetterHelp.
Get your little plush hecklefish to talk back
to you. But no, Haley Bieber. I think that she,
I don't think that she doesn't get a chance to
speak. I think that people do read into a lot
of the stuff she does, but then I also think
that she does that stuff for people to read into
it. Like when she does the, when they come up
with the stuff about her just mimicking Selena
Gomez at every single turn, that's like, come
on, come on, come on. Even though we know that
we can, I would guess, assume most of the issues
that Justin Bieber has probably revolve around
the Selena Gomez stuff. Because that was probably
his first love. And I don't have to ever see
my first love again. So it doesn't ever cross
my mind. And it's not thrown in my face all the
time. Sure. But he does have to see it. And then
so he jumped in with this. Frankly, she seems
a little off -kilter. Sure. Can you be Baldwin
or Baldwin adjacent and not be a little off -kilter?
It doesn't seem like any of them are the most
well -adjusted. No, probably not. And Stephen
of the Baldwins, Stephen, he was in the terrible
sequel to the Flintstones movie. He was young
Barney Rubble. Yeah. Viva Rock Vegas. And it
was bad. It was a bad movie. And that's all,
well, that's not true. He was also, and I don't
know what got me into this, but I was probably
in like the fourth or fifth grade and they had
a show on ABC called Celebrity Mole. Are we talking
about like the Austin Powers kind or? No, the
secret agent kind. That's disappointing. They
were a spy. And it was Secret Mole Yucatan, or
Celebrity Mole Yucatan. And I know that he was
on that. Those are the two things I know about
Stephen Baldwin. That's two more things that
I knew about Stephen Baldwin. All right. We're
learning stuff today. So I think maybe she needs
to back off her high horse a little bit. And
selling her makeup brand to, didn't she sell
it to like the Target? I think it was either
Tarte or Too Faced. It was one of the bigger
makeup brands. Maybe pump the brakes, lady. I
watched a deep dive into Hailey Bieber stalking
Justin Bieber since age 10. It was so reachy.
Someone put together a lot of footage of just
nothing. Because it would just be a... You know
whenever you see a documentary about Bigfoot?
And it'll just take like normal looking footage.
It'll just take normal. Justin Bieber walking.
Yes. So it would be like Justin Bieber on like
a paparazzi interview or whatever. And Haley
Bieber is just like in the background, just looking
at him and it'll go like gray and fuzzy. Was
she crudely pasted into the background? There
was, um, there was one particular screenshot
that this video was alleging was like. Proof
of her having a thing against Selena and trying
to like get with Justin. And this was in 20,
I don't know, like 15 maybe. And it's Haley Baldwin
standing on the, the carpet for the movie Monte
Carlo with a J 14 magazine that has Justin Bieber
and Selena Gomez on the cover. And they're like,
this is proof that she hates Selena Gomez. And
she's going after Justin. Like she's at Selena
Gomez's movie premiere. This is a movie with
Selena Gomez on the cover. Did she bring the
magazine to get an autograph? It's just, it's
bananas. The amount of reaching that this person
did. And then they're talking about like the,
all of the like outfit coordination and stuff.
And now Haley Bieber was copying Selena Gomez,
but like to what end? Because the things that
she was copying were like either really common
poses or were outfits that Selena wore like five,
six years ago. At some point, like. Is Justin
recognizing these clothes? Like, what does it
benefit her to have worn the same thing Selena
Gomez did years ago? She wears the same choker
15 years later, and then Justin just goes into
a spiral. The few things that were just, like,
super bizarre about that situation, though, is
the tattoos. Because she got a G tattooed behind
her ear, like, a month, I think, after Selena
got a J. Oh my god, has she actually been playing
for Selena Gomez this whole time? She just missed
and landed with Bieber? Did anyone search her
Instagram account and see if she posted any pictures
of Beavers? Circa 2011? 2012? You know, I'm sure
someone did. I maybe didn't get... My brain's
maybe not as rotted as it could be. But now she's
copying Sabrina Carpenter, so it's fine. She
just needs her own thing. She just wants to be
a former Disney kid so bad. Another insufferable
Nepo baby. Gwyneth Paltrow. And I think that's
another... I don't know if it's because she's
just been in the game longer. I don't feel like
she can be lumped into the same category as Ben
Stiller as being... like way above his parents
in popularity because her mom is, I think her
dad was a filmmaker and then her mom, Blythe
Danner, which is the most haughty name of all
time. So it suits Gwyneth. She was Robert De
Niro's wife in the Meet the Parents movies. And
I mean, I really didn't have. an opinion on Gwyneth
Paltrow. I mean, it came out that they named
their kid Apple, which we've discussed might
be a pseudonym. We don't know. And then whenever
her and Chris Martin split up, they, she released
a statement calling it a conscious uncoupling.
And then this candle smells like my vagina, all
of her goop stuff. Just. The vagina steaming
is the thing that just like, I. I cannot wrap
my brain around. It's not even the candle. It's
the... She swears by vagina steaming. I don't
know what that means. I don't know what that
does. I don't feel like it's good for you. Isn't
that what Principal Skinner made for Superintendent
Chalmers? Steamed clams? Gross. She... Acting
quality -wise, I put her on the exact same tier
as Dakota Johnson. I cannot stand Gwyneth Paltrow
as an actress. I don't think that she has any
kind of skill or ability. She was good in Seven,
Brad Pitt's wife. She didn't have much acting
to do. And then the back half of the movie, she's
just a head in a box. That might have been the
best acting she's ever done. Probably, yeah.
What's the movie where she was the flight attendant?
Up in the Air? Yes. Where Mike Myers was an aspiring
flight attendant but couldn't because of his
cross -eye. It's time to re -watch Up in the
Air. I've been on a Mike Myers kick lately. I
recently went on a Vince Vaughn kick. Yeah? And
you know what I just watched? What? That I...
I just watched that. I had never seen it. I'd
seen commercials for it. Bad Monkey on Apple
TV? Mm -hmm. It's good. Yeah? You should check
it out. There's a second season coming out. I
don't know when, but first season, it's only
like eight episodes, ten episodes, but it's good.
Okay. You should check it out. It's classic Vince
Vaughn. Okay. Classic Vince Vaughn and, like,
Wedding Crashers? Like, goofy kind of? A little
toned down from that. I'd say maybe more of a,
you see Delivery Man? Yes, where he's... Where
he uses a sperm donor to pay for his family's
vacation to Italy. Yeah, that era of Vince Vaughn.
Fred Claus. Fred Claus, Vince Vaughn. That's
a good one. I don't like Fred Claus. We watch
that every year. You don't like Fred Claus? I
don't like Paul Giamatti. I can't do it. Well,
I mean, technically he's the bad guy most of
the movie. In Big Fat Liar, I like Paul Giamatti.
That is the one exception that I'll give him.
The kids love that movie. It's a great movie.
It is. It's a great movie. But yeah, no. The
next one is going to be Love Guru. I watched
Idiocracy last night. Not a Mike Myers movie,
but fantastic movie. It is. The reason we have
Crocs. Tragically. They are, yeah. And we're
less than a decade away from just watering all
of our crops with Gatorade. Because it's got
electrolytes. That's what plants crave. That's
what plants crave. Welcome to Costco. I love
you. I quoted that movie so much in the last
like month or so that as soon as I got here,
Nate was like, we're watching Idiocracy. Because
I didn't realize how just like deeply rooted
into my sense of humor that entire movie is.
I was talking to him about my Roomba because
my Roomba is broken. And so every day. at exactly
1 p .m. because it is on a timer and that part
of it still works. It will leave its little docking
station. It will get halfway across my living
room and then it will just beep at me. It's not
full. It's not sucked anything up in that little
couple of feet that it moved. And I think about
idiocracy all the time. Your floor, your floor
is now clean. It's not though. Oh, it's a classic.
Great movie. Do you... Luke Wilson, Nepo Baby.
That's what I was going to say. Do you consider
siblings Nepo Babies? If they're like sibling
hit it big and then you just like catch the windfall
from that? They came up together. Did they? Uh
-huh. You ever seen Bottle Rocket? What about
the third one? Andrew? I don't know. I think
he was in Bottle Rocket too. Was he? Yeah. It's
a Wes Anderson movie and it was based on a short
film that they did. in Austin. And, uh, yeah,
that's where all three of them got their start.
Obviously, uh, Owen is the one that, that catapulted,
but, uh, Luke and Andrew, I'm pretty sure we're
both in it. It stars Luke and Owen together.
Yeah. They are Nepo babies because their dad
was a really, uh, I don't, I don't know if he's
big enough. Might be. I don't know. I think it
might have just been their friendship with Wes
Anderson. Wes Anderson. But their dad was real
big for PBS in Dallas. Oh, okay. And he is the
one who brought Monty Python to the Americas
through PBS. Interesting. I did not know that.
So if it weren't for him, then PBS would have
never aired Monty Python. Monty Python wouldn't
have gotten as big here. I'm sure it would have
eventually, but he was the catalyst for... Doing
it when it happened. I wonder if that's why Owen
Wilson got picked to play fake Bob Ross in paint.
Maybe. For the record, if you haven't seen it,
don't. It's not good? It's so bad. It's such
a bad movie. Everything about Bob Ross's entire
persona is that he is just like the sweetest,
most wholesome man who just wants to paint happy
little trees. Yeah. He is... the worst he's just
going for like he's just looking to nail all
the hippie chicks who follow his stuff in the
back of his painted van oh it's it's such a it's
a gross gross rendition is it historical fiction
or like is there Are they embellishing, or is
there some proof to this? I sincerely hope they're
embellishing. I like happy little trees, man.
Bob Ross. Huh. Yeah, because he was like a killer
in NAMM, and then he came back and realized that
he didn't want that anymore, and he got his hair
permed and then started painting. That afro's
not natural? What did he look like before? That
was not natural. I don't know. He was getting
permed. It could have been natural. I mean, I'm
sure you could look up Bob Ross without a fro.
Bob Ross, no fro. Yeah. Just looks like a dude.
Huh. You wouldn't recognize him without his afro.
You just blend in. He's got the Johnny Bravo
hair. Oh, you saw that military picture too?
Mm -hmm. Yeah. The pompadour. He has now and
has, well. Not now, but he has forever had an
afro. It's a hill I will die on. Also, nepo babies
that I'm against. Elking and Lily Rose Depp.
Is that because of her nipples? I just also think
that she can't act. I mean, she was pretty good
in Nosferatu. I didn't see the... The movie that
was completely obliterated by everyone that watched
it with... Harley Quinn Smith? Weekend. Oh. So
that's the one that I saw her in, and it was
a TV show. Bad. Very bad. Neither of them should
act in anything. Ever. Yes. It's called The Idol.
I think they made it one season. I think it was
in a movie with Jenna Ortega that was also just
completely panned. Pammed? Or is it pammed? Panned?
In case you're not feeling God in that Chili's.
That was a Step Brothers reference. Because her
name's Pam. And he says, Pan? Are you saying
Pan? Oh. With a D? Yeah. What were we just talking
about? Elking. Oh, yeah. What's wrong with Elking?
Honestly, there's nothing specifically wrong
with Elking. She just writes mediocre country
music. And I'm also kind of tired of her dad.
What's wrong with Rob? He's making America laugh
again. Since his acting dried up because I almost
said Ben Stiller, Adam Sandler stopped calling.
He's just gotten real weird and political and
I'm not here for it. He can do it. He can do
it. No. His heyday was the early 2000s. Rob Schneider
in Herbie Derby Herbie Derby. That needs to be
the intro clip for the episode. No, I mean, I
don't know. She was X's and O's. Was that a country
song or did she make the switch? I think she
didn't know what she was. or what she was trying
to accomplish whenever she did X's and O's, and
then she tried to go full country, and it's just
not good. You never go full country. You never
go full country. I mean, Taylor Swift went full
country and went back. Okay, but did she go full
country? Cowboy Carter was not a country album.
It was not, but it won country album of the year.
Explain that. Do you want to go in deep down
the rabbit hole of the Illuminati? Because I
will. I'm just kidding. I don't want to get docked
this early on in the podcast. Oh, don't have
us murdered, please. We're just trying to have
fun. Oh, one thing I forgot to mention as far
as generational nepotism are the Kennedys and
the Bushes. How do you feel? How do you feel
about the Kennedys and the Bushes? Do you think
they deserve to be where they are currently still?
No. Is Jeb retired? Surely he is, right? I think
so, yeah. I mean, do we still hear things from
the Bushes these days? I feel like after Jeb
lost his presidential bid, there wasn't really
a lot else that they did. I might be wrong. I
don't know. I don't keep up super well with politics.
You don't keep up with the Bushes? I don't keep
up with the Bushes. It's 2020. We're not here
for it anymore. As far as the Kennedys go, I
think it's crazy that they have as much name
recognition as they do, considering all of the
people that made the name for the Kennedys have
been dead for a long time now. Yeah, so I think
that people look back at the, especially like
the JFK era, and then Robert tried to take the
place of JFK, and then he got taken out. So I
think that it's always going to be a what -if
type of scenario, because we don't know how that
would have played out if he had survived. And
I think that the reason that the Kennedys are
still so, have such a stronghold now is because
that there is a direct descendant of that what
if in RFK Jr. And so I think that once he's gone,
then I think that we will probably be done with
the Kennedy line after him. But I think that
that's why there's still such a fascination,
I guess, with the Kennedys and just all the string
of just bad decisions and bad luck. that family's
had, and I think it kind of catapults them into
a whole other realm of more mythical. Yeah, I
could definitely see that. Just because of, what,
JFK shot in Dallas, RFK shot in, was that L .A.?
L .A., yeah. What was that hotel? I don't remember.
Oh, man. Around the tip of my tongue. I fairly
recently listened to Tom O 'Neill's book, Chaos,
which is mostly about Manson, but it was how
Manson tied into MKUltra, the Kennedy assassination,
and how he, I think he was somewhat related to
the other Kennedy assassination. It's a very
interesting book. The man reading it is a little
hard to listen to, but I definitely recommend
it. Ambassador O'Dell. Yeah. No, that's definitely
something that I want to get into at some point,
the MKUltra, Kennedy stuff. Maybe we can get
Nate on. Yeah, he's got thoughts. He's the reason
that I listen to Chaos. Yeah. That was a podcast
that he listened to with Tom O 'Neill. And then
as far as the Bushes go, I think that we are,
I think we're done with that era. I think part
of it is because the... Line of Bushes, H .W.
No, W. W. George W. Bush. He had girls. And so
not saying women can't be in politics, but men
are more likely to be in politics. And since
he had no sons, then they didn't feel. Plus,
one of them is, isn't one of them on with Hoda
now? Yeah, Jenna Bush Hagar. And then the other
one is just off doing her thing out of the limelight.
And so we've seen the end of the Bush era. Or
the Bush dynasty. And probably once RFK kicks
it, then we'll see the end of the Kennedy dynasty.
Who's going to be the next? I don't think it'll
be the Trumps. Barron. In his suitcase? Oh, that's
a scary looking kid. Dude, I don't know how old
he is. I think he's 19 now. 18. But he's like
7 foot 7. Yeah. and just stare right through
you. The lights are on, but nobody's home. But
I think that's, I had a few stragglers. Briefly
mentioned Allison Williams. John David Washington.
Yeah. He's a good one. He's a good actor. I liked
him in Tenet. Denzel's son. Yeah, he was, the
first time I saw him was in Ballers on HBO with
The Rock. Yeah. He's a football player, and The
Rock was like a player agent. He was real good
in that. I had no idea who he was until after
I finished watching that show. And then, oh,
that's Denzel's kid. Margaret Qualley. I like
her. Yeah. She's got a lot of range. Yeah. She's
doing good. I think one of her first bigger roles
was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And then she's
had pretty good stuff ever since then. Zooey
Deschanel. Did you know that? I did. Behind the
scenes people. Yeah, I was about to say they're
filmmakers, right? Yeah. And then her sister,
Bones Lady. Emily. Are they full sisters or half
sisters? I think they're full sisters. They look
a lot alike. Not that this necessarily means
anything. Emma Roberts. She's fine. I like her
in the spooky stuff. Screaming Queens, American
Horror Story. I liked her in We're the Millers.
I don't like what I've heard about her interactions
with Evan Peters. Sure. Yeah. But Hey, that's
their business. I think that's all I got for
you. I had a couple more like middle of the road.
Neville babies. Okay. Uh, Nick cage, a Coppola.
He's a Coppola. I do love that. He's not called
a Coppola because I feel like that would limit
his. Yeah. I think that would limit his ability
to take certain roles. And those roles are what
makes Nick cage, Nick cage. When he screams open
it 15 times. That's not Coppola behavior. If
you haven't watched that video, definitely recommend
it. It is unhinged. And The Hudsons. And check
out Long Legs. And Long Legs, yeah. Terrifying
movie. The Hudsons, yes. I used to listen to
a podcast that Oliver had with Joe Buck. Who's
Joe Buck? He's a sports announcer. He works with
Troy Aikman on... I think they're on Amazon now.
No, really interesting stuff. His dad was also
a sports announcer and all around not a very
stand -up dude. But he gets into a lot of that
and abandonment issues that he had with his dad
growing up and stuff like that. Daddy issues
is what it's called. Check it out. Oliver Hudson
also has daddy issues with... Kurt Russell. No.
No, that's his stepdad. Yeah. Bill Hudson. Yeah.
Yeah, with him and Kate's actual dad. And it's
some pretty interesting stuff. Yeah, and then
he talks about how Kurt Russell took him in and
just the relationship that they have now. How
do I feel about... I like Kate Hudson. She was
super in the rom -com stuff in the early 2000s,
especially with Matthew McConaughey. No, that
was Sarah Jessica Parker. What was the other
one? How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Yeah. And
then Fool's Gold. Yeah. Also with McConaughey.
I really liked McConaughey's rom -com era. I
did too. She wasn't very good in Glass Onion,
but I think that no one in that movie was very
good. It just wasn't a great movie. No. I had
high hopes for it. Knives Out was great. It was
so good. I hope the third one is decent. I like
those whodunits. Yeah. What about Wyatt? I don't
know. I like him. He was good in his episode
of Black Mirror. He was in Black Mirror? I haven't
seen the last couple seasons. He was the shining
light in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier on
Disney+. I've heard good things about him in
Thunderbolts. I don't know. I just feel like...
Is he Goldie Hawn's son? Is he their son together?
I think so, yeah. Oh. I don't know. I just felt
like he just came out of nowhere. Like you'd
always known that Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson
were Kurt Russell's stepchildren. But then all
of a sudden there's just Wyatt Russell and now
he's in stuff. And I don't know if that was by
his choice or just, I don't know. Following in
the family line. Yeah. I think that's kind of
how like Elizabeth Olsen and... Elle Fanning
worked. It was eventually they just decided to
follow in their siblings' footsteps. Might as
well. You have a leg up. Also, yes, Wyatt Russell
is Kurt Russell in Goldie Hawn's Kid. Well, it's
so weird how he just started being in stuff recently.
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Do you have
any words of wisdom to end this episode? With.
Today. Words of wisdom? No. Do you have any closing
statements to end this episode with? Today. I
thought of something while I was watching Idiocracy
last night and I've lost it. Remember to drink
your water. Like out the toilet. That's all I
got. You got anything for us? Hmm. Just remember,
if you become successful without being a Nepo
baby, that makes you better than everyone else.
And on that, we're out. Peace out, Girl Scouts.