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That it's just, it's gross. Like, everything

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is just inundated with wiener shots and just

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the grossest people that I think you'll ever

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meet. Five, four, three, two, one, zero. Welcome

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to the show, people. Welcome to the show. Eat

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my shorts. So here is to conversation. Tranquility

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Base here. Vehicle has landed. Welcome to the

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cash exchange. Welcome to the cash exchange.

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All right, so you're through line for today.

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Go for it. What do Ryan Reynolds, Subway, and

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online dating have in common? Ryan Reynolds,

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Subway, online dating. Ryan Reynolds, recently,

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he's always had a shtick that wasn't meant to

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last long. He plays the same person in everything

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he does. Sardonic asshole. Yeah, and so that

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wore thin, and now all the stuff coming out with

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him and Blake and Baldoni and all that stuff.

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He's a persona non grata right now. Subway, terrible

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food. I used to get Subway all the time, but

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it's... Like, once I found, like, real sandwiches,

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like, at real delis. Like, I can't tell you the

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last time I've been to a Subway. Plus all the

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Jared Fogle stuff. And then online dating. It's

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a crap shoot. Sure. It's a lot of sifting through

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the proverbial... Fish in the sea? Sure, yeah.

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Let's go with that one. That one's cleaner. So

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I don't know what the through line would be.

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Stuff that can be bad for you. Can Ryan Reynolds

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be bad for you? Yeah, I think you can have too

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much Ryan Reynolds. I wholeheartedly beg to differ.

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You can have too much Ryan Reynolds. What? I

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said you can. Oh. I said you can have too much

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Ryan Reynolds. Okay, okay. And you can have too

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much shitty food at Subway. Sure. Any amount

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of Subway is too much Subway. You can spend too

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much time on dating apps and not going out and

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experiencing the world around you. Yeah. That

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is accurate. Okay. So what is your through line?

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So my through line is that there are things with

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increasing problematicness. Problematicism. There

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are things that are getting to be more trouble

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as time goes on. Okay. Oh, that makes sense.

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What's the trouble with dating apps that has

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been recent? I don't know firsthand what is wrong

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with the dating apps, but I have enough friends

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that are in that. It's gross. Everything is just

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inundated with wiener shots and just the grossest

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people that I think you'll ever meet. I would

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just like to say that my experience... with dating

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apps has not been inundated with wiener shots.

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Wow, how fortunate for you. Which, I mean, maybe

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I should be a little offended by. I don't know.

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I mean, I would imagine that's a circumstance

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of which app you're using. Some of them are a

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little bit more wiener shot heavy than the others.

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Some of them are just straight up wiener shots.

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Sure, yeah. Well, I don't know anyone who has

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experience. Or tells me about their experiences

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with those particular apps. But the people who

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do online dating and stuff, it's just been...

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It sounds like just getting grosser by the day.

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That the fish in the sea are the ones that are

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floating upside down on the surface. They're

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not the ones that you're looking for. If you're

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not too careful on dating apps, you're going

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to get something very fishy. This is moments

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when the two of us... should feel extremely fortunate

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to have met our awesome partners, meaning that

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we don't theoretically ever have to get on the

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apps again. Ever. And who knows? If something

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happens to them, God forbid, and we just have

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to have companionship in our 90s, who even knows

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what it's going to look like by then? There's

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no way it's not robots and AI, which brings us

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to our point for today. AI. It is more trouble

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every single day. It is. I spend a lot of time

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on ex -Twitter, and it seems like every day there's

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a new post about, oh, this is blah, blah, blah,

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79 .83. Look how realistic this looks, and it's

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terrifying. There is just, there's so many problems

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that whenever I was writing the kind of outline

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for this episode, I couldn't figure out where

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to start. Because so much of my feed on anything

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that I've done online has just been about AI

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or has been written by AI. And one of the things

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that's shown up just a ton lately has been the

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little baby deep fakes. They're so creepy. They're

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so unnerving. I don't know why people are doing

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it. There was one of them, which was a scene

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from My Name is Earl. And it was... it was like

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a baby version of joy saying kids go get mama

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stripper shoes out of your Lego box, which is

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just a horrifying thing to make a baby say fake

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or not. That's a weird choice. Yeah. There's

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also, I also got sent one today of Mr. Garrison

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from South Park, which if you know anything about

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Mr. Garrison and being a baby is, is extremely

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problematic, but it was, It was Timmy's first

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episode. Oh, no. And they bleeped out the word

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retarded, which, okay, but then don't do South

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Park. Like, just do something else if you want

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to say, look, I can make babies say this thing,

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too, but you don't make them say the actual thing

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that is the whole point of the clip. It feels

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like all of those, like, I was having a conversation

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recently about all of the true crime podcasters

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and stuff now. And how they'll use things that

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are just like ridiculous because they don't want

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to get banned from whatever app they're on. Unaliving?

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Sewer slide. Like, if you're talking about my

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situation, if I, God forbid, got murdered one

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day, and I end up on some bland white girl's

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true crime podcast, and she refers to it as my

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unaliving, I am haunting the hell out of her.

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Or, yes, and he decided to remove himself from

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this world. Like, if you can't say the thing,

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don't talk about the thing. Exactly. It seems

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like much more offensive to find all these workarounds.

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To infantilize the situation. For it. Yeah. Nonsense.

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It is nonsense. There was a specific clip from,

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I don't know what Theo Vaughn's podcast is called,

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but there's a... About last weekend. About last

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weekend? That sounds right. I don't know. But

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it was Theo Vaughn as a baby. And it was talking

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about how his biggest red flag in dating is a

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girl who can't swim. And I felt personally attacked,

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obviously, this past weekend. I felt personally

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attacked because I can't swim. Why is that? Getting

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real vulnerable on this podcast. Can we discuss

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this real quick? Because... I have some evolutionary

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talk later in this episode, but I want to go

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ahead and get this out of the way since you gave

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me the perfect segue. No, I do not accept segue.

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I've only seen it in print. Is that not how it's

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said? I believe. Anyways, we are not fish. If

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you want to believe that we came from fish, that

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we came from microbiome. somewhere deep in the

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ocean that just happened to make it to the surface

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and we evolved the legs and we evolved this and

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that and that's fine but we evolved legs so that

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we don't have to swim sure and i should not be

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shamed when i am in a situation where people

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are swimming oh you want you want to go for a

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swim no i'll float there i'll just i'll chill

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i'll hang out I'm not Michael Phelps. I don't

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need to go do laps. It's great when you stay

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in shape. I'm like, okay, there's also walking.

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Yeah. So I'm going to say to these fish who have

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to swim all day, hey, I'm going to take your

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form of exercise. Even though I can go do this

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own thing on my own space, my own territory,

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I can go walk. I could walk from one end to the

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other if I wanted to. You can't do that because

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I evolved legs. I'm going to sit here and be

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so cocky that I'm going to take up space in their

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home and just swim around. What's more human

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than that? I've evolved past needing to do this,

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but I'm still going to one -up you in your home.

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Yeah, I guess. I guess you're right. Okay, sorry

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for that. You're good. I am learning to swim.

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I'm okay in water now. So how are you learning

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to swim? So I actually had Nate help me. uh last

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year and i got to a decent point like i can swim

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unbroken from like one end of the pool to the

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other it's still a little embarrassing i think

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because i mean like it's a skill that you typically

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learn when you're like one did he did he take

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you did he hold you at the edge of the pool and

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then just toss you in until you bob back up okay

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so our pool was four feet deep i don't think

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there was any bobbing but um have you seen new

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girl you know when nick first meets uh Tran and

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Tran takes him to this like YMCA pool and just

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like carries him around and hold him like a baby

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that's essentially what it felt like it was incredibly

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helpful he is an angel I did feel like I was

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being just like cradled through the water but

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hey man if it worked for Nick Miller it'll work

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for me what what are you trying to accomplish

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like what what is what is the plan with learning

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how to swim? I, so there was actually a thing

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that happened last year. Um, I went to float

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the river out in the outskirts of DFW and the

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water got like, I was just like walking around

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and there was a drop off and I panicked and it

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was just, it was a sort of like weird mental

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thing. And I was like, I think I need to, I think

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I need to do something to prevent this from happening

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again. Cause I do like doing things in the water.

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I like being. like at the beach or at pools and

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stuff like that. And I don't like that I am kind

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of resigned to just sitting in the shallow end.

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Like I want to at least be able to do the things,

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even if I don't necessarily choose to. Okay,

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that makes sense. Isn't it nice to know that

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whenever, like once you're out of a situation

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like that, you realize how much you have to fight

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to stay alive just with everyday things. And

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you're like, huh, that's pretty nice actually.

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You appreciate your life a little more because

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you almost died because you accidentally went

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two feet deeper into water than you planned to.

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But there was one time I was floating or we were

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in canoes and this was back in my drinking days.

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And so you just you do it the whole day. And

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so if you're like if you're floating like on

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a tube, then you just let fly. Because it's going

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to end up in the water anyways. You can't do

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that in a canoe. And so we had been bottoming

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out, bottoming out, bottoming out. Every time

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we hit it, I felt like my bladder was going to

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pop. I got out. We had just finished bottoming

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out. I got out and pushed it. And then I was

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just like, I'm just going to go here. And so

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I walk up a little farther to get the canoe going.

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And bam, instant drop off. And then I don't think

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peeing in the water was the only thing that happened

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during that experience. But I was clinging to

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the side of the canoe, like fighting for my life

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just to get back in. I would like to not experience

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that because I can't even float. Really? Do you

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just like panic in water? I take that back. Do

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you just panic in water? Yes. But I can float

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face down like a corpse. Okay. But I can't float

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on my back. And I don't understand why. I don't

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get why. That's interesting. I'm a lot more comfortable

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floating on my back than on my stomach. I can't

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do the corpse float. Nope. I can do the corpse

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float all day. Interesting. So I'd be great at

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snorkeling. Never tried it, but I could. Have

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you ever considered going into like swim lessons?

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Because your kids can all swim, right? No. No

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to swim lessons or no your kids can't swim? Their

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version of swimming is, flailing enough to get

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from one end to the next but they have some people

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in their lives which are not me saying oh they're

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such great swimmers you're you're doing great

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but if they were in a life or death situation

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their flailing would get them five feet and then

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they'd be at the bottom of the water so every

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time that they tell me no i can swim it's like

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okay but but you still need a lot of work everyone

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needs to needs to keep working on all kinds of

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stuff so uh maybe let's not be so confident about

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it i was actually listening to a podcast today

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about a guy that won't give his children like

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uh floaties like arm floaties or uh the like

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the best things yeah puddle jumpers yeah yeah

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he said because it gives them a false sense of

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security and so if they feel like if they can

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do it with it then they don't see the connection

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like that is the thing that is keeping them from

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drowning and so Whenever they don't have it,

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they have the same confidence. Then bad things

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happen. Yeah. Which I get. I get that. But I

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don't know. I mean, I've always had a, I would

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call it a healthy fear of water. Are you rabid?

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Are you afraid of water? I'm not hydrophobic,

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but I am a little phobic, I guess. Is that going

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to be one of our clips? Sure, yeah. We can make

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that a TikTok sound. What? I am a little phobic.

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I was about to say, what video would I'm not

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hydrophobic, but I'm a little phobic be? I think

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if they just cut out the I'm a little phobic

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part, I would do really well on a certain side

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of the internet. Probably not a side I want to

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be on, but I could. I don't know that I know

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what connection you're making there, and I think

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I'm okay with that. I mean, there's all kinds

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of phobics that people throw out there. It's

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usually when they've lost an argument about something

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or they want to make a statement but not really

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say anything. Thoughts and prayers. So they'll

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just call you blank phobic or that. Yeah, it's

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the hateful side of thoughts and prayers. So

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they're on the same coin. Thoughts and prayers

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is like, I don't have anything of use to say,

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but here you go. I hope you feel better. Whereas

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the other side, I don't have anything useful

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to say here, but phobe. Sure. I wish that we

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could just start saying bummer in that situation.

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I think it would be equally as effective. Something

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terrible just happened. Thoughts and cares. We

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just laid my father to rest today. Bummer. It's

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exactly as sincere. It's more sincere. It is

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just as sincere. Yeah. I completely forgot where

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we were. We were on Baby Deepfakes. Baby Deepfakes.

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Alongside Deepfakes. Alongside Deepfakes. Do

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you remember, have you seen the difference in

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AI -generated videos with Will Smith eating spaghetti?

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Yes. I don't get it. It is so strange. It is.

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If you've seen the one from, I think it was 2022,

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maybe? 23? It was only a couple years ago. But

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he looks horrifying. Cause you can tell that

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it's like shuffling through too many pictures

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of Will Smith to be able to create like a cohesive

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image of who he is. Yeah. And so it like extends

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out his mouth. And so he kind of looks like a

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horse for a lot of it. It's, it's bizarre. I

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recommend that you watch it, but they redid.

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Do you think it is a conspiracy that Will Smith

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is the one putting them all out? That way he

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keeps himself relevant post slap. I think that

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he's already made enough money that he has to

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kind of coast. I don't think that he's relevant

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online because you can tell that he's trying

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to do the TikTok thing on his own channel and

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it's just not working. He did a video with them.

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He's got to pay to support those two hanger -ons

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that he popped out. Are Willow and Jaden not

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doing things? I don't know. I would assume not.

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Have you not seen that Key and Peele sketch where

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he's Jaden? And his manager is just naming off

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random stuff and he makes it as bougie and as

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nonsensical as possible because he just doesn't

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understand normal things because he's Jaden Smith.

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Do you remember when he tweeted that a hotel

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chain spiked his pancakes with cheese? No, I

00:18:39.309 --> 00:18:42.490
don't. That was a fun time. It was like a Four

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Seasons, I think, and he went to Twitter to...

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express his displeasure because they spiked his

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his pancakes with ricotta cheese it was a crash

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out before there was a crash out what was he

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having crepes or blintzes blintzes are supposed

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to have cottage cheese you know what i don't

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i don't know it's been a minute since i've had

00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:07.240
to think about jaden smith is he too rich to

00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.220
know what a blintz is is that where that sketch

00:19:09.220 --> 00:19:12.859
came from maybe you're gonna send me into a jaden

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some recon In Family Guy, they say that he looks

00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.099
like a wet baby horse, and I can't unsee that.

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Every time I've seen Jaden Smith since that episode

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came out, I just think about how he looks like

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a wet baby horse, which makes a lot more sense

00:19:25.819 --> 00:19:28.460
if you think about Will Smith's original spaghetti

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video making him look like a horse. Do you see

00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.279
that picture? I don't know what thing he was

00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.480
at, but he just had a house on his head. No.

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Oh, yes, yeah. Yeah. Weird times. We're still

00:19:40.900 --> 00:19:44.259
in them. We're still in them, yeah. So aside

00:19:44.259 --> 00:19:47.460
from... Will Smith eating spaghetti, which looks

00:19:47.460 --> 00:19:51.039
problematically real these days. Although I do

00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.980
think that maybe that video is actually Will

00:19:53.980 --> 00:19:57.779
Smith eating spaghetti. It looks too unnervingly

00:19:57.779 --> 00:20:01.319
real. Or we've gotten to a point where you'll

00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:04.160
never know. Maybe we're deep fakes. Who's to

00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:08.039
say? I have all 10 of my fingers. They're normal.

00:20:08.299 --> 00:20:11.740
Me too. This would be a perfect time for it to

00:20:11.740 --> 00:20:15.160
be like that Timothy Chalamet skit on SNL. Where

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he just has, like, seven. Have you read anything

00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:20.299
that's been, like, very clearly done by ChatGPT?

00:20:20.859 --> 00:20:25.279
Not that I've noticed, no. Well, I mean, there's

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one trend that I would love to go away is on

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Twitter. Their version of ChatGPT is called Grok.

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And so... Anytime there's anything, whether it's

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a piece of news, whether it is a picture of something,

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whether it's a video of someone melting down,

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whether it's someone just getting their head

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popped off, because that's something you can

00:20:48.819 --> 00:20:52.279
see on Twitter. Without a doubt, the first comment

00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.740
you're going to see is, at Grok, is this true?

00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:59.079
Oh, thanks. Every single time. So whatever Grok

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is, is the ultimate decider in real and fake.

00:21:03.250 --> 00:21:06.250
Apparently, yeah. I have never spent any time

00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:10.049
on X, so I have no idea what the platform looks

00:21:10.049 --> 00:21:12.930
like. You should check it out. I'm good. It's

00:21:12.930 --> 00:21:15.170
the Wild West, man. I believe it. No, thank you.

00:21:15.849 --> 00:21:20.009
I deal with X in conversation plenty in this

00:21:20.009 --> 00:21:23.170
great city of Austin, so I think I'm at my limit

00:21:23.170 --> 00:21:24.950
without having to actually be on the website.

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Lucky you. So I did sales for a little bit. And

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one of the things that they told us when I was

00:21:30.349 --> 00:21:32.769
in training is like they encouraged us to use

00:21:32.769 --> 00:21:35.230
chat GPT to write our emails or to at least like

00:21:35.230 --> 00:21:36.930
create skeletons and stuff. And we would like

00:21:36.930 --> 00:21:39.630
personalize them from there. And I think that

00:21:39.630 --> 00:21:44.970
in it of itself is not great. Like it feels like

00:21:44.970 --> 00:21:48.990
an auto dialer where you write like one or you

00:21:48.990 --> 00:21:51.190
have one person saying a script and then they

00:21:51.190 --> 00:21:54.740
just repeat it. to a thousand different yeah

00:21:54.740 --> 00:21:56.720
it starts it starts feeling like telemarketing

00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.359
that's what i was trying to think of telemarketing

00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:00.920
one of the the dead giveaway is the thing that

00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:03.220
they like coached us on if we were using chat

00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:05.259
gpt to write an email is that it will always

00:22:05.259 --> 00:22:07.819
start with i hope this email finds you well if

00:22:07.819 --> 00:22:09.859
you ever get an email that starts with i hope

00:22:09.859 --> 00:22:12.480
this email finds you well or you get an email

00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.759
with the subject line that includes emojis like

00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:17.759
it'll be like a rocket emoji and like sparkle

00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.339
emojis or whatever and then the thing and then

00:22:20.339 --> 00:22:23.079
the same emojis Sales are going through the roof.

00:22:23.740 --> 00:22:28.119
Written by ChatGPT. Yeah. I hope this email finds

00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:30.259
you well is the equivalent of thoughts and prayers.

00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.339
Yeah. Or phobe. Sure, yeah. It means absolutely

00:22:34.339 --> 00:22:37.539
nothing. I don't give a shit what's going on

00:22:37.539 --> 00:22:39.720
with you. Read this because I need that money.

00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:45.319
I tried my best to not use ChatGPT, but I also

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:47.819
knew that that put me at a really large time

00:22:47.819 --> 00:22:51.059
disadvantage. Because a lot of my colleagues

00:22:51.059 --> 00:22:52.740
and stuff were listening to our trainers and

00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:56.119
were doing things through chat GPT. And it took

00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.119
me so long to craft any email. And realistically,

00:23:00.339 --> 00:23:02.160
it was still getting filtered through spam anyway.

00:23:02.420 --> 00:23:05.240
Because a lot of those spam filters for professional

00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.460
email accounts are company -wide emails. They

00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:10.900
put filters on things that make it sound like

00:23:10.900 --> 00:23:15.380
it's done through AI. So there's not really a

00:23:15.380 --> 00:23:17.259
whole lot of ways to get through those filters

00:23:17.259 --> 00:23:20.200
if you're not... a member of the staff in that

00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:23.200
company. Yeah. Cause I'll, I'll get emails. I'll

00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:28.200
get work emails and it'll always say outside

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:33.039
email. And then it'll say, you don't usually

00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:36.119
get emails from this person. And those are just

00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:37.799
the ones that get filtered through. If you go

00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:39.980
through my spam, it's like thousands of them

00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:43.200
of, Hey, we've got this great business opportunity

00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.799
that could really help your business grow. That

00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:51.039
kind of stuff. There's been a rise in chat GPT

00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:54.420
usage for creative endeavors, which I think is

00:23:54.420 --> 00:23:56.799
something that's both really interesting and

00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.180
really sad. So one of the things that I found

00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:03.740
on, I think I saw it on TikTok maybe like a couple

00:24:03.740 --> 00:24:06.019
of weeks ago. There's an author named Lena McDonald

00:24:06.019 --> 00:24:11.000
and she wrote a book called The Dark Hollow Academy.

00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.359
The second one came out recently and she is in

00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:20.160
deep, deep trouble. Because she not only wrote

00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.119
her book with one of the large language models,

00:24:23.299 --> 00:24:26.359
maybe Chad GPT, maybe another one, but it is

00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.339
evident that she wrote it through one of the

00:24:28.339 --> 00:24:31.059
large language models because there is a paragraph

00:24:31.059 --> 00:24:34.500
in the text that she very clearly did not proofread

00:24:34.500 --> 00:24:38.220
with the prompts that she put into this engine.

00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.799
What was the prompt? So it's not the prompt.

00:24:41.940 --> 00:24:43.960
It's part of like, you know how if you put...

00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:46.609
If you ask ChatGPT a question, it'll say, so

00:24:46.609 --> 00:24:48.390
here is what I did. And then it'll have the actual

00:24:48.390 --> 00:24:51.150
thing it did. It includes that. She copy pasted

00:24:51.150 --> 00:24:53.630
literally the entire response. So that starts

00:24:53.630 --> 00:24:57.529
out in this chapter. I've rewritten the passage

00:24:57.529 --> 00:24:59.769
to align with Jay Bree's style, which features

00:24:59.769 --> 00:25:02.069
more tension, gritty undertones, and raw emotional

00:25:02.069 --> 00:25:04.950
subtext beneath supernatural elements. And then

00:25:04.950 --> 00:25:08.029
it continues with the story. But she did. She

00:25:08.029 --> 00:25:11.069
did. Did she write the supernatural context part?

00:25:11.509 --> 00:25:15.119
I don't think so. Oh, so this is like, so she

00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.339
wrote her prompt and then she, but it was like

00:25:18.339 --> 00:25:21.799
the prompt was like, make it like this. So. And

00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:23.299
then that's what it's saying. So essentially

00:25:23.299 --> 00:25:27.640
what she did was, hey chat GPT, write me this

00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:31.359
kind of story. Make it emulate whoever Jay Bree

00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:36.200
is. Make it emulate Jay Bree's style with the

00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:40.529
gritty undertones, tension, whatever. And that's...

00:25:40.529 --> 00:25:44.910
How is J. Bree spelled? It's J .B .R .E. And

00:25:44.910 --> 00:25:48.970
what's her name? Lena McDonald. Yeah, so J. Bree

00:25:48.970 --> 00:25:53.650
is a whole nother author. Broken Bonds, The Sword.

00:25:53.930 --> 00:25:56.670
So this wasn't even, she wasn't even asking for

00:25:56.670 --> 00:26:03.589
it based on like her own work. Well, a side note

00:26:03.589 --> 00:26:07.690
to that, you can follow us on, I swear this is

00:26:07.690 --> 00:26:10.859
going somewhere. X at CashExchangePod, Instagram

00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:14.960
at CashExchangePodcast, TikTok the CashExchangePodcast,

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:19.299
or Gmail CashExchangePodcast at gmail .com. And

00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:22.920
on our Instagram every Tuesday, you'll find I

00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:28.059
give you three clues as to what the three things

00:26:28.059 --> 00:26:30.740
are going to be in the title of the episode,

00:26:30.779 --> 00:26:33.859
which ultimately will lead us into the topic

00:26:33.859 --> 00:26:36.099
of the episode. It's a fun game. You should try

00:26:36.099 --> 00:26:38.730
it out. You should. Absolutely. No one has passed

00:26:38.730 --> 00:26:43.369
it yet. And I'm not going to say their layups.

00:26:43.369 --> 00:26:45.789
I guess I can't say their layups. You should

00:26:45.789 --> 00:26:49.089
know because then I'd know. I don't know. There's

00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:51.809
no way to test myself on these, I guess. We can

00:26:51.809 --> 00:26:56.309
have the partners. I mean, she sees them every

00:26:56.309 --> 00:26:59.589
Tuesday. She's like, I have no clue what that

00:26:59.589 --> 00:27:02.250
is. Does she make guesses in the comments? I

00:27:02.250 --> 00:27:03.849
can't because I'm a part of the actual thing.

00:27:04.670 --> 00:27:08.019
Yeah, that's true. Or you could throw in some

00:27:08.019 --> 00:27:12.859
red herrings. True. Anyways, okay, so this last

00:27:12.859 --> 00:27:17.220
one was Madam Web, internet meltdowns, and sermon

00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:20.000
farts. Sure, yeah. And this whole thing came

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.960
about because I didn't know how to illustrate

00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:30.259
a sermon fart without it being, like, just overtly

00:27:30.259 --> 00:27:34.259
crass and just no subtlety whatsoever. So what

00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:39.470
I did was... I put a prompt into ChatGPT, and

00:27:39.470 --> 00:27:44.250
I said, create me a picture that has Madam Web

00:27:44.250 --> 00:27:48.930
watching an internet meltdown of a preacher during

00:27:48.930 --> 00:27:54.569
a sermon. And apparently to create images, I

00:27:54.569 --> 00:27:56.069
guess it's some legal thing, you have to create

00:27:56.069 --> 00:27:57.849
an account, so I created an account, so now I'm

00:27:57.849 --> 00:28:00.509
in the system. That's how they get you. But after

00:28:00.509 --> 00:28:03.410
I created the account, it created the image.

00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.799
And it's exactly what I had envisioned for what

00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.920
I wanted this picture to look like. And it is

00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.539
on our Instagram that you can go see right now.

00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.640
And so after that, I was like, oh, this is great.

00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.519
Because it takes me forever to find, if I don't

00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.400
have a picture, like a picture that I've personally

00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.019
taken of one of the three things for our episode,

00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:29.440
then I have to go track it down. And you can't

00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.880
just pull it from Google. Because most of that

00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.240
stuff has copyrights and all this other stuff,

00:28:34.339 --> 00:28:36.380
so you leave yourself open to those kind of things.

00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:39.240
Are we going to get popped for how many people

00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.220
see our stuff? Probably not. But in the future,

00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.200
they could. Does copyright protection affect

00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:50.180
an Instagram post if you're not using it, like

00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:52.940
claiming it as your own? If you're trying to

00:28:52.940 --> 00:28:56.119
monetize, yeah. Okay. Because then you're making

00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.980
money off someone else's work. Okay. Which I

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:02.900
mean, right now, nothing like Instagram isn't

00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:06.099
monetized. YouTube isn't monetized. So we're

00:29:06.099 --> 00:29:08.240
in the clear right now. But once we make that

00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.000
transition, then all that stuff could be fair

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.740
play. And so I have to go to these websites.

00:29:14.819 --> 00:29:18.140
And there's one that is pretty good for getting

00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:21.500
me a general picture of what I'm asking for.

00:29:21.940 --> 00:29:25.420
And those are attribution free. So that means

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:28.990
you don't have to put the creator in the... the

00:29:28.990 --> 00:29:32.349
description and you don't have to pay a royalty

00:29:32.349 --> 00:29:35.589
or a licensing fee or anything like that so just

00:29:35.589 --> 00:29:38.450
out of curiosity i asked chat gpt after gave

00:29:38.450 --> 00:29:42.250
me this picture i said do i need to credit chat

00:29:42.250 --> 00:29:45.630
gpt for this photo or do i need to like say anything

00:29:45.630 --> 00:29:48.089
about where this photo came from because it's

00:29:48.089 --> 00:29:51.809
very obviously ai generated uh yeah ai generated

00:29:51.809 --> 00:29:56.569
yeah and so it what it came back to me was saying

00:29:56.569 --> 00:29:59.279
that you don't need to You don't need to tell

00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.519
anyone that it came from chat GPT. You don't

00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.960
need to give us any attributes, any royalties,

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.940
or anything like that. One thing that will be

00:30:07.940 --> 00:30:10.279
dictated by whatever platform you post it on

00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.279
is whether you have to list it as AI or not.

00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.660
Okay. And so just to be safe on, and because

00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:19.259
it's just so obvious, on this most recent post,

00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:22.839
there's a little tab you can click where if AI

00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.079
was any part of it, then... You just do that.

00:30:25.259 --> 00:30:27.700
And so that's what I did. And I mean, I don't

00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:30.880
know. I liked it because I put our logo on it.

00:30:30.900 --> 00:30:32.500
I put a background on it and all that stuff.

00:30:32.779 --> 00:30:35.799
Have you seen it? Yeah. Do you like it? I have

00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:40.960
a massive, massive grievance with ChatGPT, Copilot,

00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.099
all of the large language models and stuff generating

00:30:43.099 --> 00:30:47.599
images. I hate it. See, I do too. Because there's

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.180
people that could do it, but I'm not people that

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:53.819
could do it. And, I mean, I need these usually

00:30:53.819 --> 00:30:58.960
by Tuesday. So I get the cutting out the human

00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.400
element of it. But I'm also not an artistic person.

00:31:02.539 --> 00:31:06.359
Sure. In that, like, as far as drawing or any,

00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:09.700
like, physical media, like, that's just not my

00:31:09.700 --> 00:31:15.680
cup of tea. Sure. So that's, I definitely. see

00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.140
the issue with it but I guess it just doesn't

00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:20.240
affect me as much as it would affect other people

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.039
like like you you're the one that created our

00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.299
logo like I don't think that that's something

00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:30.180
that would have come easily for AI to do like

00:31:30.180 --> 00:31:33.000
I've given I gave you a like a general outline

00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.180
of what I wanted it to look like and then we've

00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:39.319
we've tweaked it a couple times since then and

00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.839
there's definitely like human touches on it sure

00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.160
So I don't know. I mean, I definitely, I get

00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:49.420
the grievance of people who are saying that you're

00:31:49.420 --> 00:31:52.420
taking the human out of the equation. I think,

00:31:52.420 --> 00:31:55.859
so the problem with like artificially generated

00:31:55.859 --> 00:31:57.880
images and stuff is not that you're taking humans

00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.059
out of the equation necessarily. It is that you

00:32:01.059 --> 00:32:04.339
are stealing their work. So it's not like chat

00:32:04.339 --> 00:32:06.579
GPT. It's based on something. Right. So it's

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:08.940
not like chat GPT is pulling from nothing. It

00:32:08.940 --> 00:32:12.000
can't just. Imagine just yet. Like it's not to

00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.339
the point so far as we know that it can just

00:32:14.339 --> 00:32:16.140
create things out of thin air. What it's doing

00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:19.059
is it's pulling from Instagram. It's pulling

00:32:19.059 --> 00:32:22.160
from Google images. It's pulling from X, TikTok,

00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.359
whatever. It's pulling from every source on the

00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.039
internet where people are posting the things

00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:28.099
that they do. They're posting their own work.

00:32:28.220 --> 00:32:30.960
And then it's basically just creating some kind

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.579
of amalgamation, slapping a filter on it, calling

00:32:33.579 --> 00:32:37.259
it its own. It is plagiarism. And so like it's,

00:32:37.259 --> 00:32:41.079
I'm an artist. So it is. personally really like

00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:45.279
irritating whenever people will use like artificially

00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.380
generated things especially whenever they like

00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:50.079
there's a bunch of artists and stuff that will

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.839
show up on my TikTok feed because I follow a

00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.700
lot of artists and so it's like oh you might

00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:58.680
also like this and all of these artists have

00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:02.259
a very similar art style and it is pretty evident

00:33:02.259 --> 00:33:05.359
because of the the similarities in their art

00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.279
styles that what they're doing is they'll have

00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.150
like The artificially generated image is like

00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:12.849
the background and then like pretend to do brushstrokes

00:33:12.849 --> 00:33:14.470
and stuff so that they can claim it as their

00:33:14.470 --> 00:33:19.430
own. And so it's like that is inherently just

00:33:19.430 --> 00:33:22.009
nauseating because I can guarantee that with

00:33:22.009 --> 00:33:23.650
the amount of views and the amount of follows

00:33:23.650 --> 00:33:26.269
and stuff that these people have, like it's definitely

00:33:26.269 --> 00:33:28.950
monetized. Like a lot of these people sell like

00:33:28.950 --> 00:33:31.109
courses and stuff and I can't imagine that they're

00:33:31.109 --> 00:33:34.619
actually doing anything legitimate in them. But

00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:37.019
there's a lot of people who probably wouldn't

00:33:37.019 --> 00:33:38.519
be able to tell the difference and know that

00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.759
these people are just straight up lying to you.

00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:47.400
And so I have a hard time doing the artificially

00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.339
generated images. It does save you a lot of time,

00:33:49.420 --> 00:33:51.859
saves you a lot of money, manpower, all of the

00:33:51.859 --> 00:33:54.779
things. I understand the merits, but it's at

00:33:54.779 --> 00:33:58.680
best a little dicey. No, I get it. And I felt

00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.700
a certain way just pulling from it for the last

00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:08.210
episode. But I just I was sitting there and never

00:34:08.210 --> 00:34:11.409
tried it. So gave it a shot and liked what the

00:34:11.409 --> 00:34:13.769
outcome was. But no, I definitely get your side

00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:17.730
of it. There's also whenever I was trying to

00:34:17.730 --> 00:34:22.329
like brainstorm like logo ideas, I was kind of

00:34:22.329 --> 00:34:24.789
coming up like I was coming up blank. And so

00:34:24.789 --> 00:34:28.320
I asked ChatGPT or Copilot or one of them. I

00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.940
was like, give me some like ideas for a general

00:34:30.940 --> 00:34:33.079
thing. It's like I gave them a general rundown

00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:34.900
of the podcast. It was like, it's a sibling thing.

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.679
We're talking about like a variety of topics,

00:34:36.780 --> 00:34:40.179
whatever. And what it gave me was just stuff

00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:42.480
that was very clearly ripped off of like a clip

00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.139
art site. And it was like not really tweaked.

00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:50.639
Like there was, I'm sure, like one to one version

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.260
of the podcast logos that it was giving me that

00:34:53.260 --> 00:34:58.239
were on like Vector Bay or. Or not Vector Bay,

00:34:58.340 --> 00:35:01.039
it's Pixabay. Or any of those clip art sites

00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.139
where you have to pay royalties to the people

00:35:03.139 --> 00:35:05.500
who actually made them. And I was like, I don't

00:35:05.500 --> 00:35:08.820
think I want to use this for my brainstorming.

00:35:08.940 --> 00:35:11.360
It also made me feel really lazy, but that's

00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.139
neither here nor there. No, like I said, I definitely

00:35:15.139 --> 00:35:21.539
get it. And it's not just the art. I mean, like

00:35:21.539 --> 00:35:25.559
you were saying, it's books, it's music, it's...

00:35:25.849 --> 00:35:29.750
voices it's people's personalities it's people's

00:35:29.750 --> 00:35:34.789
uh likeness it's all that stuff that is it all

00:35:34.789 --> 00:35:37.650
came from somewhere and it didn't start at chat

00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:41.389
gpt and then there's going to come a time where

00:35:41.389 --> 00:35:45.369
all of the original creators that it's pulling

00:35:45.369 --> 00:35:47.809
information from is all or they're all dead they're

00:35:47.809 --> 00:35:50.789
all gone and then it is going to be its own thing

00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:54.500
and by then it's just it's going to be a uh It's

00:35:54.500 --> 00:35:58.280
going to be the Wild West for anything that it

00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.639
creates because this stuff is, like you said,

00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.340
it's getting worse and worse, I guess, based

00:36:03.340 --> 00:36:07.539
on your perspective as time goes on. So the further

00:36:07.539 --> 00:36:11.420
along we get with it, the more and more this

00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:14.440
stuff is just going to be taking over everyone

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.659
else's ideas. And we're going to get to a point

00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:21.880
where just everything is AI. There's not going

00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.360
to be any originality to anything anymore. There

00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.199
was a video that I watched a little while ago

00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.079
from Film Theory. I don't know if you follow

00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:30.840
that channel. If you don't, you absolutely should.

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.860
Any listener should. They're a great resource.

00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.699
But they were talking about kind of like the

00:36:36.699 --> 00:36:38.360
future of film. And one of the things that they

00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:41.300
were talking about was that whenever a person

00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:45.920
dies, theoretically their identity goes into

00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.079
the public domain 70 years after their death.

00:36:48.300 --> 00:36:53.440
We are coming up on the 70th year of James Dean.

00:36:54.010 --> 00:36:57.110
And Marilyn Monroe is not too far after. Once

00:36:57.110 --> 00:37:00.170
they go back in the public domain, we could realistically

00:37:00.170 --> 00:37:03.010
use deep fakes of them to make them stars in

00:37:03.010 --> 00:37:08.769
movies in the 2020s. And a lot of the Disney

00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:12.150
actors and things have had to get themselves

00:37:12.150 --> 00:37:15.489
scanned in whenever they get cast for a movie

00:37:15.489 --> 00:37:17.789
because Disney wants their likeness in the case

00:37:17.789 --> 00:37:20.949
that they need to do any digital retouching in

00:37:20.949 --> 00:37:23.840
the... A part of their contract. Yeah. So in

00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.440
case that they need to do any retouching or anything

00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.000
later on, or if an actor were to die and they

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.519
needed to finish up a couple of scenes. But that's

00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.920
why they, again, theoretically, have all of these

00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.920
characters and all of these actors and things

00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.400
cataloged. But what it means in the grander scheme

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.599
is that eventually when AI gets... Actually,

00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:47.760
I don't even know if that's an AI point necessarily,

00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.420
but once these actors go back into the public

00:37:50.420 --> 00:37:53.230
domain... Disney can capitalize on them again

00:37:53.230 --> 00:37:55.610
with no need to pay royalties to them because

00:37:55.610 --> 00:37:58.289
it's not technically them. It's not technically

00:37:58.289 --> 00:38:02.730
due to their estate. It's Disney owns the rights

00:38:02.730 --> 00:38:04.929
to this person's likeness because they signed

00:38:04.929 --> 00:38:07.010
a contract for it. Well, like, did they ever

00:38:07.010 --> 00:38:09.769
do anything with Chadwick Boseman after he died?

00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:12.489
He didn't he die in the middle of something?

00:38:12.590 --> 00:38:15.489
I don't remember which movie it was. Was it Black

00:38:15.489 --> 00:38:18.309
Panther? I think Black Panther was done before

00:38:18.309 --> 00:38:24.039
he died. Was it? I think so. I think maybe Infinity

00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:29.119
War Part 2 or whatever the last Avengers movie

00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.300
was. Oh, sorry, Black Panther 2, not the first

00:38:32.300 --> 00:38:35.119
one. Oh. The one that's about Shuri. Yeah, I

00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.980
don't know if he was alive for any of that production

00:38:37.980 --> 00:38:40.380
or if he already saw the writing on the wall

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:42.199
and so he wasn't involved at all. I wouldn't

00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.539
think that that was the case, but I remember

00:38:44.539 --> 00:38:48.940
the first part being a funeral, so they didn't

00:38:48.940 --> 00:38:51.420
have him in it. physically or digitally yeah

00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:54.719
but i don't know if he was in whatever avengers

00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.400
movie that was that came out before that end

00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.519
game i don't know if he was fully in that or

00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:03.539
he was physically i think there was a movie that

00:39:03.539 --> 00:39:04.840
he was working on but i don't think it was one

00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.719
of the marvel ones maybe like 21 bridges was

00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.880
his last one i know there was a movie that there

00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.280
was a movie that or it was uh i think it was

00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.860
avengers the second one uh or whatever the last

00:39:17.860 --> 00:39:20.780
of the trilogy is The second half of the end

00:39:20.780 --> 00:39:24.400
one. End game. Yeah. And there was a woman that

00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.699
was from Doctor Strange, maybe. I don't know.

00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:29.800
I'm butchering this story. I have the bullet

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.940
points, though. And they asked her to come back.

00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.480
And I guess they asked her to come back for,

00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:38.940
like, such a pittance. Like, it was just, like,

00:39:39.099 --> 00:39:44.179
insultingly low, I think, is the general idea

00:39:44.179 --> 00:39:48.849
of how she felt about it. So they were just like,

00:39:48.929 --> 00:39:50.809
she said, no, I need more money. And they're

00:39:50.809 --> 00:39:53.489
like, no. And they used her, but they used a

00:39:53.489 --> 00:39:56.889
digital copy of her because they had it. And

00:39:56.889 --> 00:39:59.730
I mean, she wasn't like a main character or anything,

00:39:59.849 --> 00:40:03.070
but that is a perfect example of what you're

00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:04.809
saying about how they just own these people's

00:40:04.809 --> 00:40:06.469
likenesses and these people are still alive.

00:40:06.789 --> 00:40:09.369
Yeah. And so if you don't want to play ball,

00:40:09.510 --> 00:40:12.130
then they can just do it without you. Yeah. Like

00:40:12.130 --> 00:40:15.559
whenever Carrie Fisher died. And they were in

00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.139
the middle of filming... I don't remember if

00:40:18.139 --> 00:40:20.099
it was Rise of Skywalker. It was one of the newer

00:40:20.099 --> 00:40:24.739
Daisy Ridley Star Wars movies. But they brought

00:40:24.739 --> 00:40:28.199
back Carrie Fisher for one last scene. Fully

00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.039
digitally entered into the thing. And I can understand

00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:33.900
why they... But wasn't it... Didn't they just

00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:36.239
cut her out of extra scenes from the previous

00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.780
movie? They... Maybe? I thought that they made

00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:42.699
her into an entirely different scene. I didn't

00:40:42.699 --> 00:40:44.320
think they copy -pasted something from a different

00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.400
movie. I think that they used bonus footage from

00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.699
the last movie and put her in the third one.

00:40:48.900 --> 00:40:51.340
I think, I don't know. I'm pretty sure that's

00:40:51.340 --> 00:40:54.900
how it went down, though. Okay. Yeah, I don't...

00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:58.440
The optics of it are still a little creepy. That,

00:40:58.460 --> 00:41:02.639
like, the person is gone. It makes some sense

00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.820
to want to honor her by bringing her in one last

00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:09.480
time for a franchise that she was the cornerstone

00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.070
for. But also, like, it... It feels like a kind

00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:18.670
of gross cash grab. I think in the sense of like

00:41:18.670 --> 00:41:21.349
adding in characters digitally or like de -aging

00:41:21.349 --> 00:41:23.769
them or whatever. I think that Indiana Jones

00:41:23.769 --> 00:41:26.409
and the Dial of Destiny. Terrible movie, by the

00:41:26.409 --> 00:41:29.929
way. Oh, it was just like that last Star Wars

00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:33.710
movie that she was shoehorned into. Yeah. Indiana

00:41:33.710 --> 00:41:35.949
Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Terrible movie.

00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.300
But the beginning of Dial of Destiny was a de

00:41:40.300 --> 00:41:44.000
-aged Harrison Ford. He's in like his 30s, 40s,

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:48.780
maybe. And it feels like that was Disney's test

00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:52.260
run to see how audiences would react to scenes

00:41:52.260 --> 00:41:54.539
like that. Because they did it to an extent in

00:41:54.539 --> 00:41:56.719
the last Pirates of the Caribbean, but it wasn't

00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.860
as extensive as this one. And I think this was

00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.920
them trying to see if they could get it to work

00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.250
with audiences. It didn't, thankfully. But they

00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:08.769
couldn't. Because that was bad. Both of them

00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:12.650
were very, very bad. And it was very obvious.

00:42:12.769 --> 00:42:16.409
I mean, first off, you know that Harrison Ford

00:42:16.409 --> 00:42:19.510
is like, is he in his 80s now? I think so, yeah.

00:42:19.769 --> 00:42:25.010
Yeah. And so it's obvious. Yeah. You find someone

00:42:25.010 --> 00:42:28.030
that looks similar enough and then just let them

00:42:28.030 --> 00:42:30.469
do those scenes. I mean, you already have this

00:42:30.469 --> 00:42:35.829
geriatric over here when he's... Like, himself,

00:42:36.230 --> 00:42:39.690
as an older Indiana Jones, doing all this stuff

00:42:39.690 --> 00:42:42.909
that you know he's not doing. Like, you know

00:42:42.909 --> 00:42:45.429
this is all stunt doubles. And they're just plastering

00:42:45.429 --> 00:42:47.690
his face on it. And then the same thing with,

00:42:47.730 --> 00:42:51.469
what was that, Pirates 5? I couldn't tell you.

00:42:51.469 --> 00:42:53.409
I don't know which one it was. But it just, it

00:42:53.409 --> 00:42:57.570
doesn't, it completely takes you out of it. I

00:42:57.570 --> 00:42:59.030
think it's almost more. Like, just use someone

00:42:59.030 --> 00:43:02.349
that looks similar to them, but is the age that

00:43:02.349 --> 00:43:04.840
you're going for. I think it's almost more egregious

00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.039
what they did with Pirates of the Caribbean because

00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.019
it was like a shorter thing. But they did such

00:43:10.019 --> 00:43:12.900
a good job with Barbossa. Like they absolutely

00:43:12.900 --> 00:43:15.239
nailed it in the original Pirates of the Caribbean.

00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.360
And it has just gone downhill. Like the CGI has

00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:22.019
just gotten so lazy and formulaic. Well, I mean,

00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:24.159
the same thing with Voldemort in the Harry Potter

00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.599
movies. Yeah. Like they completely erased this

00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:31.019
man's nose. And those looked great. Yeah. Dobby.

00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:34.440
So maybe the thing is, don't make them human.

00:43:35.380 --> 00:43:41.639
So I was reading about the Barbossa CGI. This

00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.940
was a while ago. But it was from a person who

00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:46.900
had actually worked on that kind of CGI. And

00:43:46.900 --> 00:43:50.059
they basically said that the reason that the

00:43:50.059 --> 00:43:53.880
ones later on are lazy when it comes to CGI,

00:43:54.019 --> 00:43:57.539
or why CGI now looks kind of crappy compared

00:43:57.539 --> 00:44:01.800
to the early 2000s, is because... This was still

00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.519
new enough and there were only so many people

00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:06.579
who were great at what they did that they were

00:44:06.579 --> 00:44:09.019
paid properly. And then they started trying to

00:44:09.019 --> 00:44:12.159
turn them into sweatshops. People had to churn

00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.500
out just so much CGI for everything that Disney

00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:18.260
put out or that any company put out that it ended

00:44:18.260 --> 00:44:21.699
up having to be streamlined in a way that absolutely

00:44:21.699 --> 00:44:25.139
ruined the effect. Well, you get so terrified

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:28.199
of people's attention spans getting shorter and

00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.010
shorter. that you can't have a movie that is

00:44:31.010 --> 00:44:34.309
going to take three years to come out to do it

00:44:34.309 --> 00:44:38.349
the right way. And the first three, no, four,

00:44:38.510 --> 00:44:41.510
first four Pirates of the Caribbean movies are

00:44:41.510 --> 00:44:43.750
great movies. Like the first Pirates movie was

00:44:43.750 --> 00:44:46.829
one of my favorite movies growing up. Yeah. And

00:44:46.829 --> 00:44:52.070
so it's just, I don't know, it's just, it all

00:44:52.070 --> 00:44:54.650
just reeks of greed. And really when you boil

00:44:54.650 --> 00:44:59.210
it down, almost all of AI. It's just greed -based.

00:44:59.289 --> 00:45:02.090
It's what we can churn out as quickly as possible

00:45:02.090 --> 00:45:06.070
to keep up with these attention spans, to pull

00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:09.329
as much money from them as possible. I don't

00:45:09.329 --> 00:45:12.090
even think the issue necessarily with the fifth

00:45:12.090 --> 00:45:14.530
Pirates movie is that the CGI is bad. It's the

00:45:14.530 --> 00:45:18.489
fifth. It didn't matter how long it took or how

00:45:18.489 --> 00:45:22.610
much effort was put into it. It was the fifth

00:45:22.610 --> 00:45:25.389
in a series. The fifth is... It's never necessary.

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:27.460
You're telling me you couldn't tell that story

00:45:27.460 --> 00:45:30.980
in eight hours? Probably more than that. I'm

00:45:30.980 --> 00:45:33.079
like strangers. Are you saying the Half -Blood

00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.519
Prince isn't necessary? That's the fifth one,

00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.980
right? I don't know. Probably. I don't know.

00:45:38.059 --> 00:45:40.599
I know Goblet of Fire is four. Half -Blood Prince

00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.679
is the fifth book, I think, yeah. Yeah. So that's

00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.599
not necessary to the story? I think if it is

00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.599
like a fleshed out story that takes place, like

00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.820
that is already start to finish made, then it's

00:45:54.820 --> 00:45:57.760
different. that whole saga was supposed to take

00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.840
as long as it did. But Pirates of the Caribbean

00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.460
was a thing that they were just like, you built

00:46:02.460 --> 00:46:05.000
a house and then you decided you wanted an addition

00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.059
and then another addition. At some point, like

00:46:07.059 --> 00:46:09.460
the thing is going to collapse because it's just

00:46:09.460 --> 00:46:11.320
not supposed to keep building off of this one

00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.179
great thing. No matter how structurally sound

00:46:13.179 --> 00:46:15.579
the original house was, it will fall down. It's

00:46:15.579 --> 00:46:18.300
all based on a ride from the 60s. Yeah. All of

00:46:18.300 --> 00:46:22.460
this entire empire is built on a ride that lasts

00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:25.019
like what? Six minutes? Seven minutes? And it

00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:27.500
worked. And then they tried that over and over

00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:31.539
and over again with, like, Tomorrowland. Yeah.

00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.219
The movie with George Clooney. Jungle Cruise.

00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:37.139
Terrible. Jungle Cruise? Nope. I don't know.

00:46:37.900 --> 00:46:42.440
50 -50 on that. I'm more of a fan of it becoming

00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.880
a great Weird Al song than a movie. But the movie

00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.579
is mindless fun, I guess. Sure. I definitely

00:46:51.579 --> 00:46:54.530
wouldn't say, oh, Jungle Cruise is my... favorite

00:46:54.530 --> 00:46:56.489
movie like i would have for the pirates movies

00:46:56.489 --> 00:47:00.510
but yeah and uh they just kept trying to catch

00:47:00.510 --> 00:47:02.449
that lightning again and it just never happened

00:47:02.449 --> 00:47:05.010
yeah i mean if it's a story that actually has

00:47:05.010 --> 00:47:08.070
ground to it audiences won't mind waiting i think

00:47:08.070 --> 00:47:10.809
the problem is that a lot of these studios and

00:47:10.809 --> 00:47:13.469
things don't want to put the effort into the

00:47:13.469 --> 00:47:17.110
story so they're not going to put the like they're

00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:20.429
just gonna shoehorn it into whatever their like

00:47:20.429 --> 00:47:23.719
schedule looks like yeah That was a decently

00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:27.440
sized segue. All right, remind me where we were.

00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.199
Actually, I don't even know if that was a segue.

00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:33.039
That was still a valid part of how AGI, I was

00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.420
going to say AI, but AGI works too, how AGI is

00:47:36.420 --> 00:47:39.980
ruining our society. The next thing I had was

00:47:39.980 --> 00:47:47.440
the ecological side of AI. Here comes the hippie.

00:47:48.019 --> 00:47:54.090
Absolutely. Did not know, and I don't know that

00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:58.070
it's common knowledge, that things like ChatGPT,

00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:01.309
Copilot, all of the large language models are

00:48:01.309 --> 00:48:04.070
awful for the environment. Yeah, I don't think

00:48:04.070 --> 00:48:06.030
that's talked about very much. It should be.

00:48:06.789 --> 00:48:11.369
So for the uninitiated, large language models

00:48:11.369 --> 00:48:14.849
have, it has so much information to pull from

00:48:14.849 --> 00:48:17.250
every time you ask it a question. So it's not

00:48:17.250 --> 00:48:20.530
just like... you ask chat GPT and chat GPT will

00:48:20.530 --> 00:48:22.690
Google it for you. And it will just like spit

00:48:22.690 --> 00:48:26.070
back common sense answers or like most common

00:48:26.070 --> 00:48:29.610
answers. What happens is that it will have to

00:48:29.610 --> 00:48:32.369
scour thousands of sources, millions of sources,

00:48:32.449 --> 00:48:35.349
and then it will compile all of that stuff to

00:48:35.349 --> 00:48:37.289
give you the best possible answer that it can.

00:48:38.010 --> 00:48:41.730
What happens is that all of that work, all of

00:48:41.730 --> 00:48:44.730
that computing goes through data centers. Data

00:48:44.730 --> 00:48:49.469
centers are. cooled with water typically. And

00:48:49.469 --> 00:48:52.449
just so that like the CPUs and things don't overheat

00:48:52.449 --> 00:48:54.869
in server rooms. And this is overly simplistic.

00:48:55.030 --> 00:48:57.389
I'm not super, super familiar with the technology,

00:48:57.510 --> 00:49:01.170
but you ask ChatGPT a question, it goes through

00:49:01.170 --> 00:49:03.530
a data center and it pulls all of this water

00:49:03.530 --> 00:49:06.909
through to cool down the systems. But what happens

00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:09.389
is both that it is incredibly water intensive,

00:49:09.449 --> 00:49:12.670
which is super dangerous in places like California,

00:49:12.849 --> 00:49:15.460
where a lot of these data centers are. where

00:49:15.460 --> 00:49:18.500
there happen to be a lot of wildfires. And it's

00:49:18.500 --> 00:49:21.840
incredibly dangerous because it also raises the

00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.039
temperature of the air around it. So it is a

00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.420
massive contributor to global warming in the

00:49:27.420 --> 00:49:29.739
long run. And these places have massive footprints.

00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.420
It's like these colossal, colossal buildings

00:49:33.420 --> 00:49:36.940
that the only thing they do is they're just filled

00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:40.880
with servers. And for, I guess, for those that

00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.550
don't know, anytime you do... Anything on your

00:49:45.550 --> 00:49:49.070
computer, any time that you put an input in and

00:49:49.070 --> 00:49:51.750
you expect an output, that all gets run through

00:49:51.750 --> 00:49:56.530
a CPU, and the CPU will pull from your memory

00:49:56.530 --> 00:49:59.869
in your laptop or computer or desktop, whatever

00:49:59.869 --> 00:50:04.230
you have, and then it'll send out the information

00:50:04.230 --> 00:50:06.610
to the Internet, and then it'll send it back

00:50:06.610 --> 00:50:11.750
to you. But all that stuff causes heat. All that

00:50:11.750 --> 00:50:14.780
stuff, and that heat has to go somewhere. And

00:50:14.780 --> 00:50:18.880
so that's the reason that your fans turn on on

00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:20.880
your laptop when you start doing intensive work.

00:50:21.219 --> 00:50:25.940
That's the reason that your stuff gets warmer

00:50:25.940 --> 00:50:30.059
whenever you're on it for a long time. So it's,

00:50:30.059 --> 00:50:34.639
yeah, it's a huge problem. And there's lots of

00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:40.280
things that they're trying to mitigate those

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:45.219
issues, but we're nowhere near. a sustainable

00:50:45.219 --> 00:50:50.380
point right now and it's the same problem that

00:50:50.380 --> 00:50:53.659
you run into with uh bitcoin mining too because

00:50:53.659 --> 00:50:58.019
that is also very cpu intensive and that's you

00:50:58.019 --> 00:51:00.360
have to have like the they have these farms that

00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.340
just have these things that are running these

00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:06.679
huge uh equations non -stop just over and over

00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:10.400
and over again 24 7 and all that stuff needs

00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.840
to be Cooled down too, and not just that, but

00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.380
you also have to take into the electrical implications

00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:19.579
of all that because those data farms use up a

00:51:19.579 --> 00:51:21.619
lot of electricity too. And our power grid is

00:51:21.619 --> 00:51:24.239
already stretched incredibly thin. Especially

00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:27.280
in Texas. Especially in Texas, yeah. So more

00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.039
of the data centers, which are soon to be moving

00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.099
to Austin, soon to be moving to, I think Irving

00:51:33.099 --> 00:51:36.019
is about to get one or just got one. There's

00:51:36.019 --> 00:51:38.920
a couple that have been like on the rise in Texas

00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:42.539
and we cannot handle it. No. We're not built

00:51:42.539 --> 00:51:45.820
for it. We're not prepped for it. No, because

00:51:45.820 --> 00:51:50.139
for those who don't know, what was it like? 2021.

00:51:50.500 --> 00:51:54.739
Was it 2021? Yeah. We had a huge ice storm, and

00:51:54.739 --> 00:51:56.980
in Texas we're not used to huge ice storms, so

00:51:56.980 --> 00:51:59.539
we don't have ways to prepare for it. We don't

00:51:59.539 --> 00:52:03.579
really know what that all entails, but almost

00:52:03.579 --> 00:52:07.239
the entire grid for the state of Texas went down.

00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.579
And just people all over the state had no power

00:52:10.579 --> 00:52:14.610
for... what week and a half yeah we we lost power

00:52:14.610 --> 00:52:17.329
for four days i think yeah i was lucky enough

00:52:17.329 --> 00:52:21.389
that i was heading out of town so i didn't have

00:52:21.389 --> 00:52:24.190
to deal with the ramifications of it too much

00:52:24.190 --> 00:52:27.170
but for everyone i talked to i mean it was it

00:52:27.170 --> 00:52:31.949
was miserable uh if it wasn't the the power outages

00:52:31.949 --> 00:52:35.190
it was the burst pipes it was the we had a huge

00:52:35.190 --> 00:52:39.789
pile up on uh the highway because people don't

00:52:39.789 --> 00:52:43.210
know how to drive in the ice. 144 cars. Yeah,

00:52:43.289 --> 00:52:49.309
it was a gigantic mess, and all of that stuff

00:52:49.309 --> 00:52:53.329
is only going to be compounded with all the extra

00:52:53.329 --> 00:52:56.889
stress put on by data farms and all this other

00:52:56.889 --> 00:53:00.630
electricity -intensive stuff. Yeah, so I have

00:53:00.630 --> 00:53:04.059
been on the job hunt for... broader scheme of

00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:06.079
things since I graduated college back in 2021

00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:10.000
but more specifically I've been job hunting for

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:14.679
the last like two weeks I've applied to everything

00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.739
I've applied to all of the things on LinkedIn

00:53:16.739 --> 00:53:22.920
and I've because I'm like open to work on LinkedIn

00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.900
so much of my like feed on the website is just

00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:30.679
like people complaining on either side. So either

00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.539
of the people that are looking for work or the

00:53:33.539 --> 00:53:37.340
people that are trying to find candidates. And

00:53:37.340 --> 00:53:42.159
the biggest problem is that it's no longer a

00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.940
conversation between people. Like essentially

00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:47.380
what has happened to the hiring process for just

00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:51.119
about any job in like corporate, at least, is

00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.719
that you'll apply to a job. You'll maybe write

00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.280
your resume with AI. You maybe won't. But a lot

00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.079
of these recruiters and stuff, because they are

00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.000
posting their jobs online, anyone can apply.

00:54:02.699 --> 00:54:05.860
These people are getting applications where it's

00:54:05.860 --> 00:54:08.300
just like they're inundated with thousands of

00:54:08.300 --> 00:54:10.480
them. They can't realistically filter through

00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.800
all of them. So what they do is they have, I

00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.380
think it's called ATS, where it's like an automated

00:54:16.380 --> 00:54:19.480
resume tracker. And it uses AI to basically like

00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.719
filter out people who wouldn't be like worth

00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.639
talking to. And because of that, it's basically

00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:29.139
just AI talking to AI deciding whether or not

00:54:29.139 --> 00:54:33.000
you deserve a job. And so recruiters would get

00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:37.059
upset because people would be using AI for their

00:54:37.059 --> 00:54:39.659
resumes or they'd be like lying on their applications.

00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:42.000
But it's literally the only way that you can

00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.340
kind of get through to an actual human being

00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:48.119
to have a conversation. And then I've gotten

00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.440
a ton of automated messages that's like, oops,

00:54:51.619 --> 00:54:54.280
better luck next time. Like, I don't think I've

00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.579
spoken to a single human being in the hiring

00:54:56.579 --> 00:55:00.320
process. It is genuinely just so disheartening.

00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.559
It's ridiculous. What if that was actually the

00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.440
response you got? We received your email. We

00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.639
received your resume. And the results are, better

00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.000
luck next time. Honestly, that's almost what

00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.460
all of them say. It's like, we've chosen another

00:55:16.460 --> 00:55:19.179
candidate, but we'll keep your resume on file

00:55:19.179 --> 00:55:21.400
in case something else comes up that you might

00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:25.800
be good for. Like, okay. I don't believe that's

00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:26.059
ever worked for anyone. Sorry, we couldn't approve

00:55:26.059 --> 00:55:30.320
you for this loan right now. But check back in

00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:33.900
60 days and reapply. Because maybe something

00:55:33.900 --> 00:55:36.820
magic is going to happen by then. Yeah. And the

00:55:36.820 --> 00:55:39.360
same thing that's happening with the job hunt

00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:40.820
right now is happening with higher education.

00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:46.320
So a lot of... I graduated, I think, before it

00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:51.150
was the biggest problem in college. So higher

00:55:51.150 --> 00:55:54.670
education has also been seriously affected by

00:55:54.670 --> 00:55:59.530
AI and it, I don't know if I was maybe done with

00:55:59.530 --> 00:56:04.610
college before it got so like deeply ingrained

00:56:04.610 --> 00:56:07.929
in the system or I don't know. There was still,

00:56:07.949 --> 00:56:11.369
there's still definitely some bits and pieces

00:56:11.369 --> 00:56:16.199
of AI in college whenever I was enrolled. because

00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:18.420
they'll have like plagiarism checkers and things

00:56:18.420 --> 00:56:21.000
that were done through AI. So it would check

00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.059
over your paper and make sure that it wasn't

00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:28.559
under, or it wasn't over like 5%, I think, copy

00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.139
pasted. But there's a lot of people that are

00:56:32.139 --> 00:56:36.380
using AI to write their essays to turn them in

00:56:36.380 --> 00:56:40.039
for professors to use AI to grade their essays.

00:56:40.179 --> 00:56:42.059
So at some point, like you're just paying for

00:56:42.059 --> 00:56:44.260
nothing. You're not getting an actual education

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:46.440
because the professors aren't teaching you anything.

00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.400
You're not writing anything. So you're not learning

00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.940
on your own. This is just AI grading a different

00:56:52.940 --> 00:56:56.559
AI. I don't know. So we went over it in a podcast

00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:00.320
a couple episodes ago of like, you're going to

00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:05.280
need this later. And I think that that is absolutely

00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.460
fundamental to growing as a human being. I think

00:57:08.460 --> 00:57:12.210
that whenever you take the... the actual effort

00:57:12.210 --> 00:57:16.929
that it takes for you to remember that stuff

00:57:16.929 --> 00:57:19.110
to the point that you can explain it to somebody

00:57:19.110 --> 00:57:21.429
else. Because I think that is like the actual

00:57:21.429 --> 00:57:25.929
mastery of a skill is you being able to teach

00:57:25.929 --> 00:57:29.510
another person about it. So it's not necessarily

00:57:29.510 --> 00:57:32.289
that you wouldn't be able to Google it. It's

00:57:32.289 --> 00:57:34.449
not like I can't use my calculator if I'm doing

00:57:34.449 --> 00:57:38.409
math. It's that I know how to get from point

00:57:38.409 --> 00:57:40.730
A to point B. Even if I don't have to regularly

00:57:40.730 --> 00:57:46.550
do it. So like you being able to properly Google

00:57:46.550 --> 00:57:51.869
something is not, I don't know. It feels like

00:57:51.869 --> 00:57:55.090
a waste of all of your tuition money. If the

00:57:55.090 --> 00:57:56.730
only thing that you're getting out of it is that

00:57:56.730 --> 00:57:59.010
I was more effective at searching something.

00:57:59.349 --> 00:58:02.329
I don't remember the things for most of my classes,

00:58:02.389 --> 00:58:05.389
but I know how to look it up in the future if

00:58:05.389 --> 00:58:09.400
I need it. Yeah. This is supposed to be. done

00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.800
in a way that maybe that's, that's me being more

00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:17.400
adopting a more antiquated ideal of what college

00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:19.019
is supposed to be. Cause it's not necessarily

00:58:19.019 --> 00:58:21.400
the experience that I had. I could have used

00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.460
chat GPT or any of like the, the AI models to

00:58:25.460 --> 00:58:28.639
write something for me. But did, did you go to

00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.519
classes until actually in classes with other

00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.260
people? Yeah. Yeah. See, I didn't. Yeah. If I

00:58:37.260 --> 00:58:39.699
could do it all over again, I would definitely

00:58:39.699 --> 00:58:41.760
do it in person because I think I would have

00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.380
gotten a lot more out of it than I did. At the

00:58:44.380 --> 00:58:46.159
end of the day, I still got the same piece of

00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:51.800
paper. I still got the same information. I probably

00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:53.320
just didn't get the same kind of experiences

00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:59.719
out of it. Sure. I think, I don't know, the purpose

00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:01.860
of education in general is not necessarily to

00:59:01.860 --> 00:59:03.960
tell you what to think. It's to teach you how.

00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.239
And I feel like that's a thing that is completely

00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.780
abandoned whenever you are willing to write your

00:59:10.780 --> 00:59:19.019
essay by prompting AI. Well, I should also say

00:59:19.019 --> 00:59:21.199
that any essays that I needed to write, I wrote

00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:25.260
myself because I enjoy writing essays. But you

00:59:25.260 --> 00:59:28.440
said that was all you had? That was the last

00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.099
of my cons, yeah. I do have some issues that

00:59:31.099 --> 00:59:36.179
you didn't bring up. So, I think... that Facebook

00:59:36.179 --> 00:59:42.960
posts to boomers is like AI to millennials. What?

00:59:43.460 --> 00:59:48.940
So whenever, it's usually older people, boomers,

00:59:48.940 --> 00:59:50.780
maybe even older than boomers, just people that

00:59:50.780 --> 00:59:54.480
are on Facebook, which I think generally leans

00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.440
a little older these days, they'll see a post,

00:59:57.539 --> 01:00:00.320
and then, did you hear about this? Did you hear

01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:03.579
about this thing that happened? And I can't believe.

01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:05.500
That's what happened. And then you're like, that

01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:10.519
definitely did not happen. But the new age version

01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.199
of that for millennials and people our age is

01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:20.159
AI. Because we can actually see a thing and we

01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.860
say, can you believe this? And it can be political.

01:00:23.980 --> 01:00:28.619
It can be racial. It can be just a celebrity

01:00:28.619 --> 01:00:31.519
faux pas. I mean, it has all kinds of levels

01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:38.639
of severity. Our thing is we were raised to be

01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:42.500
very skeptical because we grew up in the age

01:00:42.500 --> 01:00:46.340
of the Internet. And so boomers, older people

01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:53.000
than us, were taught to take the word of people

01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:59.900
that they respected to vet the people that they

01:00:59.900 --> 01:01:02.349
were getting their information from. And then

01:01:02.349 --> 01:01:06.250
they would be misled by that. And so we said

01:01:06.250 --> 01:01:07.989
there can be all this stuff on the Internet.

01:01:08.190 --> 01:01:10.389
That doesn't mean that's true. Seeing is believing.

01:01:10.510 --> 01:01:15.789
But now we have all this AI that is showing us,

01:01:15.809 --> 01:01:18.309
so we're seeing it, and people are believing

01:01:18.309 --> 01:01:22.750
it. So it is believing now. It is, but that doesn't

01:01:22.750 --> 01:01:24.210
mean that it's true. That doesn't mean that what

01:01:24.210 --> 01:01:26.250
you're seeing is something that you should believe.

01:01:26.630 --> 01:01:29.090
Yeah, so what is believing now? It's not seeing.

01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.380
Oh, what is believing now? I thought you said,

01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.719
so it is believing now. Exactly. And that is

01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:40.820
a huge problem with AI and with the way everything

01:01:40.820 --> 01:01:44.480
is going now. And there's two ways to look at

01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.119
it. There's one, you don't believe anything.

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.760
And then you just become cynical and you just

01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:58.480
collapse into yourself. you don't get to a point

01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:00.780
where you can let anything or anyone in because

01:02:00.780 --> 01:02:03.980
you don't know if you can believe it. Or you

01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:07.460
take everything at face value and you give everything

01:02:07.460 --> 01:02:10.159
the benefit of the doubt, and then you get burned

01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:15.079
by that. And I think that you can try to walk

01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:17.880
the line between the two, but the more advanced

01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:21.659
all this AI stuff gets, the harder that's going

01:02:21.659 --> 01:02:24.440
to be for you. And then whenever you do give

01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:26.400
something the benefit of the doubt, whenever

01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:31.039
you get burned by it, you feel like you're even

01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.619
more scorned than you would have been otherwise.

01:02:34.460 --> 01:02:38.420
Like if you see a video of Donald Trump giving

01:02:38.420 --> 01:02:43.039
Biden a stone cold stunner, then you're not going

01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:46.440
to believe it, no matter how realistic it looks.

01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:53.860
But if you see a video of someone of a different

01:02:53.860 --> 01:02:57.030
persuasion than you, maybe doing something that

01:02:57.030 --> 01:02:59.449
you don't like, then you're going to believe

01:02:59.449 --> 01:03:01.469
it and that's going to be your rallying cry and

01:03:01.469 --> 01:03:04.929
just reaffirming all these prejudices that you

01:03:04.929 --> 01:03:06.949
may have, you may not have, you may not even

01:03:06.949 --> 01:03:11.289
care until you come across some piece of AI that

01:03:11.289 --> 01:03:16.530
has led you a certain way. And like I said, the

01:03:16.530 --> 01:03:20.989
more realistic, the less flaws you see in this

01:03:20.989 --> 01:03:25.070
stuff, the worse it's going to get. And there's

01:03:25.070 --> 01:03:27.869
no way to put the genie back in the bottle. I

01:03:27.869 --> 01:03:30.030
think it's always been like that, though. There's

01:03:30.030 --> 01:03:34.289
always been something that spreads misinformation.

01:03:35.230 --> 01:03:40.730
So there's a Tom Segura stand -up bit where he's

01:03:40.730 --> 01:03:43.730
talking about how we used to just not know things

01:03:43.730 --> 01:03:47.690
or be confidently wrong about stuff. And he was

01:03:47.690 --> 01:03:53.150
talking to his dad. And his dad said, Tom Hanks

01:03:53.150 --> 01:03:56.550
was gay. And so Tom Segura went a very long time

01:03:56.550 --> 01:04:00.289
just like believing Tom Hanks was gay because

01:04:00.289 --> 01:04:03.829
why would he question it? And then he eventually

01:04:03.829 --> 01:04:06.170
was in a conversation with a friend of his and

01:04:06.170 --> 01:04:08.010
brought up that Tom Hanks was gay. And the friend

01:04:08.010 --> 01:04:10.489
was like, no, he's not. What? What are you talking

01:04:10.489 --> 01:04:13.550
about? And then this was at a point where he

01:04:13.550 --> 01:04:16.210
could just like Google it. Turns out Tom Hanks

01:04:16.210 --> 01:04:18.590
isn't gay. And so he goes back to his dad and

01:04:18.590 --> 01:04:20.690
he's like, did you know Tom Hanks wasn't gay?

01:04:21.230 --> 01:04:24.130
He was like, oh, huh. And I feel like that's

01:04:24.130 --> 01:04:26.210
kind of the same conversation that we have with

01:04:26.210 --> 01:04:29.349
AI is like, we're just going to keep having those

01:04:29.349 --> 01:04:31.630
conversations. Some things don't necessarily

01:04:31.630 --> 01:04:33.949
change because of the internet. Like, it's great

01:04:33.949 --> 01:04:37.230
if you see a thing and you're like, ah, that

01:04:37.230 --> 01:04:39.070
sounds a little fishy. So I'm going to Google

01:04:39.070 --> 01:04:41.150
it and find out if that's actually true. But

01:04:41.150 --> 01:04:43.710
at the same time, like, we've always been confidently

01:04:43.710 --> 01:04:45.690
wrong about things. There was a little window

01:04:45.690 --> 01:04:48.469
where it was impossible to not Google something.

01:04:49.210 --> 01:04:51.690
But we've just kind of like circled back. Like

01:04:51.690 --> 01:04:54.369
in the conversation that I had recently with

01:04:54.369 --> 01:04:57.150
your son about what kind of animal Bulbasaur

01:04:57.150 --> 01:04:59.809
was. And he just insisted that I Google it. Like

01:04:59.809 --> 01:05:03.010
it's not, it ain't life or death. We don't need

01:05:03.010 --> 01:05:05.429
to know what Bulbasaur is. And the worst part

01:05:05.429 --> 01:05:08.070
about that is that I did eventually Google what

01:05:08.070 --> 01:05:10.889
Bulbasaur was. Because I wanted to know. I felt

01:05:10.889 --> 01:05:14.030
like I needed to know. Did I? No. For those listening,

01:05:14.630 --> 01:05:18.369
he's a frog. I thought he was a turtle. I did

01:05:18.369 --> 01:05:21.369
too. I don't know what that bulb is, if he's

01:05:21.369 --> 01:05:25.130
a frog. Anyway. A growth? I don't know. Tumor?

01:05:25.329 --> 01:05:29.989
No clue. But I would say that not knowing would

01:05:29.989 --> 01:05:35.809
be fine if people were level -headed and could

01:05:35.809 --> 01:05:39.170
be trusted with just, this is what I'm saying,

01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:41.150
this is what you're saying, we're not going to

01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:44.389
agree, that's fine. Yeah. And I don't, I don't,

01:05:44.389 --> 01:05:50.119
I'm a voyeur as... far as twitter goes i don't

01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.739
i don't get into the stuff yeah if i see something

01:05:54.739 --> 01:05:59.059
that i think is interesting i don't agree with

01:05:59.059 --> 01:06:02.340
or whatever i don't engage those people about

01:06:02.340 --> 01:06:05.960
it i'll i'll maybe talk to emily about it or

01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.920
i'll send something to you yeah but i'm i'm not

01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:13.579
going to engage these people about it because

01:06:13.579 --> 01:06:19.369
nobody can be wrong anymore There's a thing going

01:06:19.369 --> 01:06:24.349
around of an interview that Tom Lennon did. Thomas

01:06:24.349 --> 01:06:28.829
Lennon. I don't know. Lieutenant Jim Dangle.

01:06:29.309 --> 01:06:32.809
New boot goofing. Oh, Thomas Lennon, yeah. Four

01:06:32.809 --> 01:06:38.710
payments. Yeah. Who said that there's just an

01:06:38.710 --> 01:06:41.610
entire generation of children that were never

01:06:41.610 --> 01:06:45.440
told no. He said he grew up on the... He grew

01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:47.260
up in Chicago, and there would just be Irish

01:06:47.260 --> 01:06:49.300
dudes that if they got out of line, just some

01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:50.820
random dude, and just smack them in the back

01:06:50.820 --> 01:06:52.619
of the head. And he said, we don't have that

01:06:52.619 --> 01:06:56.219
anymore. Kids aren't told no. Kids aren't smacked

01:06:56.219 --> 01:06:57.679
around when they're getting out of line, so they

01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:01.679
get back in line. And this is what has been created

01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.260
because of it. And that's the kind of attitude

01:07:04.260 --> 01:07:06.619
that you get any time you get into an argument

01:07:06.619 --> 01:07:08.699
with anyone or any time you have a differing

01:07:08.699 --> 01:07:11.360
opinion from anyone on the Internet. And I think

01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.659
AI has a lot to do with that because... One of

01:07:15.659 --> 01:07:20.659
the ultimate problems with AI is that it opened

01:07:20.659 --> 01:07:28.320
the floodgates to you saying something and, okay,

01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:31.139
where's your proof? Okay, here's my proof right

01:07:31.139 --> 01:07:34.159
here. Here's a video of the thing that happened.

01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:36.420
Here's the aftermath of the video. Here's everything

01:07:36.420 --> 01:07:39.300
leading up to the thing that happened. This is

01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:43.639
my proof. That's AI. No, didn't happen. That's

01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:47.889
fake. That's a deep fake. And so now people that

01:07:47.889 --> 01:07:52.409
are, no matter how stupid opinion that you have,

01:07:52.650 --> 01:07:57.409
you could just say, no, didn't happen. Put your

01:07:57.409 --> 01:08:00.409
fingers in your ears and yell. Yeah, it's just

01:08:00.409 --> 01:08:03.949
the ultimate scapegoat now. Well, I know AI exists,

01:08:04.090 --> 01:08:08.130
and so I'm allowed to say whatever I want, and

01:08:08.130 --> 01:08:10.829
then if someone says something that I don't like

01:08:10.829 --> 01:08:14.340
and then comes up with proof, I can say, no,

01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:17.079
that's fake. They have this ultimate scapegoat

01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:20.979
now. And the fake news is a Trump thing. But

01:08:20.979 --> 01:08:25.760
it's from both sides. Yeah. And, like, there

01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:31.619
was a video someone caught of the transportation

01:08:31.619 --> 01:08:38.739
secretary, Pete Buttigieg, under Biden, who made

01:08:38.739 --> 01:08:42.579
this big show about how he cared about the environment.

01:08:43.240 --> 01:08:46.140
And he didn't want to put any more strain on

01:08:46.140 --> 01:08:49.479
the whatever. So he was going to ride his bike

01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:53.840
to and from work. He leaves his house. He has

01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:57.300
a helmet. He gets on his bike. He goes about

01:08:57.300 --> 01:09:01.399
two blocks. And then, I'm assuming it's Secret

01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:06.039
Service, stops a black SUV. He pulls up to the

01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:09.949
back. They put his bike in the back. He rides

01:09:09.949 --> 01:09:12.010
in his big ass Suburban all the way to the White

01:09:12.010 --> 01:09:14.550
House or wherever he was going. A Bear Grylls

01:09:14.550 --> 01:09:19.430
mode of transportation. Yeah. And then, oh, OK,

01:09:19.649 --> 01:09:23.569
well, Pete, you did this. Fake news. It's fake.

01:09:23.609 --> 01:09:27.689
It's a deep fake. It's AI. And so that I think

01:09:27.689 --> 01:09:29.649
that is the most glaring problem that has come

01:09:29.649 --> 01:09:35.909
from AI is, I mean, besides the just the laziness

01:09:35.909 --> 01:09:40.840
of everything and the. The fact that most people

01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:43.260
feel like they don't have to think critically

01:09:43.260 --> 01:09:46.319
anymore because everything can just be shoved

01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.199
out into their face. And then they either agree

01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.260
with it and say, yeah, this is it. This is the

01:09:52.260 --> 01:09:55.720
thing. Or they say, this is fake. This is AI.

01:09:55.920 --> 01:10:01.239
This is whatever. And it is so exhausting. And

01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:05.539
it's only going to get worse. And I don't see

01:10:05.539 --> 01:10:08.619
a turning point. I don't see... A time where

01:10:08.619 --> 01:10:11.199
people say, yeah, AI exists, but then there's

01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.840
also critical thinking that needs to happen too.

01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:20.619
I disagree. So when it comes to the conversations

01:10:20.619 --> 01:10:25.220
on the internet, it feels to me like people like

01:10:25.220 --> 01:10:27.420
us are the majority. That there's more people

01:10:27.420 --> 01:10:30.640
online that are not actually starting fights

01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:32.800
on the internet. There are people who aren't

01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:34.300
putting their opinion on the internet because

01:10:34.300 --> 01:10:38.869
who cares? There's more people who are just like

01:10:38.869 --> 01:10:41.909
online without necessarily interacting with the

01:10:41.909 --> 01:10:45.069
stuff that they see. Those people can engage

01:10:45.069 --> 01:10:50.170
in person and should, I think, be taken more

01:10:50.170 --> 01:10:54.329
as the whole than the exception. The people who

01:10:54.329 --> 01:10:58.949
are online are more subject to be bots, not actual

01:10:58.949 --> 01:11:03.810
people. They are more subject to be wrong, louder.

01:11:04.569 --> 01:11:06.770
because there are no consequences for anything

01:11:06.770 --> 01:11:12.310
you say online. And they're just a fraction of

01:11:12.310 --> 01:11:14.970
the population who is the most bored, who feels

01:11:14.970 --> 01:11:17.470
like it is their duty for some reason to shove

01:11:17.470 --> 01:11:20.609
their opinions down your throat. Well, and it

01:11:20.609 --> 01:11:25.229
is actively incentivized for people to post something

01:11:25.229 --> 01:11:27.130
that they know is false, something that they

01:11:27.130 --> 01:11:30.550
know is not true, just so they can get interactions,

01:11:30.590 --> 01:11:34.680
just so they can get... Yeah. And it goes up

01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:36.880
the algorithm and then it gets shown to more

01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:38.979
people. Clicks over sincerity. The more people

01:11:38.979 --> 01:11:40.520
that see it, the more people that interact with

01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.399
it, the more money you can make. And I don't

01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:47.979
know how you undo that system. I have one solution

01:11:47.979 --> 01:11:51.920
that seems to be gaining traction in our generation.

01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:57.520
Going dark? Yes. So this is a conversation that

01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.699
you and I have had a thousand times at this point.

01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.560
I talk about how aware that I am of all of the

01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:06.859
time that I spend on my phone, but knowing that

01:12:06.859 --> 01:12:09.399
amount doesn't change how much time I spend on

01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:14.159
my phone, right? Yeah. So I caved. And I got

01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:18.640
this. What? Why didn't you tell me? I got it

01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:20.420
today. I was actually going to tell you today

01:12:20.420 --> 01:12:24.079
because I just got it. I got a flip phone. This

01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:30.119
thing contains maps. So like if I need to. I

01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:34.600
can navigate with it. But honestly, most of my

01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:37.460
traveling right now is just done from here to

01:12:37.460 --> 01:12:41.140
work or the like local grocery stores, restaurants,

01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:44.220
whatever places that like I know. So I don't

01:12:44.220 --> 01:12:46.760
see myself needing that all that often. It does

01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:50.600
calls, texts, and I have to get used to a different

01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:56.479
kind of T9. This is a little strange. And yeah.

01:12:57.470 --> 01:12:59.510
technically I can get online if I want to, but

01:12:59.510 --> 01:13:02.729
it is a deeply long and annoying process. I know

01:13:02.729 --> 01:13:06.550
because setting it up today was a very long and

01:13:06.550 --> 01:13:10.090
annoying process. So I have to think, I have

01:13:10.090 --> 01:13:12.409
to think through whether or not I want to Google

01:13:12.409 --> 01:13:14.609
something because the amount of time that it's

01:13:14.609 --> 01:13:17.170
going to take me on a T9 to figure out what kind

01:13:17.170 --> 01:13:20.369
of animal Bulbasaur is, it's very different from

01:13:20.369 --> 01:13:22.390
just being like, Hey Google, what kind of animal

01:13:22.390 --> 01:13:24.949
is Bulbasaur? Well, I'm proud of you. Good job.

01:13:25.740 --> 01:13:29.300
So I will be, I will be adding a little, little

01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:32.659
progress in my, in my future episodes. See how

01:13:32.659 --> 01:13:36.279
my, my life is going in a digital detox. Congratulations

01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:40.119
for pulling the trigger on that. Yeah. I got

01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:44.579
to a point where I realized how much time I was

01:13:44.579 --> 01:13:46.439
spending on my phone and like, I would be aware

01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:48.439
that I was doom scrolling and that I shouldn't

01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:50.260
be, that there were things I could be doing instead.

01:13:50.819 --> 01:13:52.939
Cause it would be at like the checkout line at

01:13:52.939 --> 01:13:55.600
the grocery store when I just. didn't have a

01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.979
thing to do. I was just standing there and I

01:13:58.979 --> 01:14:00.920
would just be scrolling through Instagram. And

01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.279
at some point I was just like, I don't know why

01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:05.340
I'm doing this. I know it doesn't make me happy.

01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:07.720
I know nothing that I'm looking at makes me happy.

01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:10.380
There's maybe like quick hit dopamine. And then

01:14:10.380 --> 01:14:12.380
what? Then I just keep scrolling for my next

01:14:12.380 --> 01:14:15.359
quick hit of dopamine. Wow. Congratulations.

01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:18.800
Thanks. All right. Last gripe. All right. What

01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.960
you got? Is this is where the evolution is going

01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:26.409
to come into play. We have catapulted ourselves

01:14:26.409 --> 01:14:31.050
to the top of the food chain. There is absolutely

01:14:31.050 --> 01:14:36.109
no reason that we should be over a lion, a tiger,

01:14:36.270 --> 01:14:46.229
a bear. Oh, my. Or a shark or any of these apex

01:14:46.229 --> 01:14:49.890
predators. But the reason that we are is because

01:14:49.890 --> 01:14:54.140
we evolved to be smarter. then all of these other

01:14:54.140 --> 01:14:57.000
animals, all these things that could easily rip

01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.680
us apart, could easily track us down and just

01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.159
devour us, we have intelligence on our side.

01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:08.920
We have the intelligence to create weapons. We

01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:12.539
have the intelligence to create habitats for

01:15:12.539 --> 01:15:15.079
ourselves to where we keep these animals away.

01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.819
And we have numbers and we have all this other

01:15:18.819 --> 01:15:22.319
stuff on our side. And so... What we decided

01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:25.619
to do with that is take all of this intelligence

01:15:25.619 --> 01:15:29.899
and feed it into a computer to create artificial

01:15:29.899 --> 01:15:36.479
intelligence, to create a mind of every human's

01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:38.960
mind and just put it all into one central location

01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:44.039
and think that that is not going to cause us

01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:46.159
any harm because, oh, well, it's working for

01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:48.800
us because we created it. Does anyone think that

01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:51.199
it's not going to cause harm? Oh, there are people

01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:57.020
that will completely downplay the bad aspects

01:15:57.020 --> 01:16:02.180
of AI just because they don't want to admit to

01:16:02.180 --> 01:16:05.479
themselves that all in all it's a pretty terrible

01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:10.399
idea. So we're taking millions, thousands of

01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:12.760
years of evolution and we're just shoving it

01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:16.760
off onto this thing like the movie The Terminator

01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.579
doesn't exist. And I just, I... I get the financial

01:16:20.579 --> 01:16:25.420
aspect of it. And I get that maybe you could

01:16:25.420 --> 01:16:28.159
say that it was inevitable. Like this is where

01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:32.020
it was all leading anyways. I can even wrap my

01:16:32.020 --> 01:16:34.520
head around the fact that we're all in a simulation

01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:39.060
and it doesn't matter anyways. But I just, I

01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:42.899
don't understand why so many people are so willing.

01:16:43.550 --> 01:16:46.729
to throw away this evolutionary advantage we

01:16:46.729 --> 01:16:50.189
have over every other species on this planet

01:16:50.189 --> 01:16:54.189
and just give it away and think nothing bad is

01:16:54.189 --> 01:16:56.310
going to happen. I think that humans thought

01:16:56.310 --> 01:16:57.789
that they were too big to fail for a very long

01:16:57.789 --> 01:17:00.689
time because they made it to the top of the food

01:17:00.689 --> 01:17:02.369
chain and they were like, we're kind of unstoppable.

01:17:02.689 --> 01:17:06.010
I'm God. The downside to that is that eventually

01:17:06.010 --> 01:17:09.649
a system gets too big and it will crumble on

01:17:09.649 --> 01:17:12.680
top of itself. Every empire since the beginning

01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.359
of time has collapsed at some point. Right. So

01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:18.300
I do absolutely believe in the inevitability

01:17:18.300 --> 01:17:22.199
of us making our replacement or for something

01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:26.020
to have usurped us in being the apex predator.

01:17:26.300 --> 01:17:30.659
I also subscribe fully to the simulation theory,

01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.539
which is probably a different can of worms, but

01:17:34.539 --> 01:17:39.100
it's a... I think this was the natural progression

01:17:39.100 --> 01:17:41.380
of things that we were going to find. We were

01:17:41.380 --> 01:17:44.239
going to make something to take over for us.

01:17:45.220 --> 01:17:51.020
Not to get too conspiracy theoristy, not quite

01:17:51.020 --> 01:17:54.199
putting on a tinfoil hat, but there is a theory

01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:56.399
that everything that's happened with humans has

01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.380
been cyclical. So like there's a theory that

01:17:59.380 --> 01:18:02.720
like Lemuria and Atlantis and all of these like,

01:18:02.739 --> 01:18:07.279
like mythical cities, essentially. They existed,

01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:09.319
but they existed for a previous iteration of

01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:11.340
humanity. And then there was something that took

01:18:11.340 --> 01:18:14.220
them down and then we started back over. I think

01:18:14.220 --> 01:18:16.460
this is just us at the end of this life cycle.

01:18:16.739 --> 01:18:18.579
This is us finding the thing that's going to

01:18:18.579 --> 01:18:20.659
replace us and then we'll start back over. I

01:18:20.659 --> 01:18:23.359
could get behind that, yeah. Because just looking

01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.859
at how everything has progressed, even just over

01:18:25.859 --> 01:18:30.899
the past 15 years, I don't see a way of getting

01:18:30.899 --> 01:18:36.100
back to before. And that doesn't mean that you

01:18:36.100 --> 01:18:39.560
can't still live your best life given all the

01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:41.439
circumstances of everything that's going on.

01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:45.239
You can. But I definitely think it's more of

01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:49.359
a struggle every day to be willing to put all

01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.500
that aside and live a fulfilling life for yourself.

01:18:53.939 --> 01:18:57.520
I think humanity as a whole is leaning towards

01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:01.279
nihilism. And I think nihilism, well, not I think.

01:19:01.420 --> 01:19:04.439
Nihilism has two sides to that coin. You're either

01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:09.819
nothing matters, so I'm going to live as one

01:19:09.819 --> 01:19:14.439
continuous existential crisis, or nothing matters,

01:19:14.460 --> 01:19:17.779
so I'm going to do what I want. Because at the

01:19:17.779 --> 01:19:20.699
end of the day, I think it's all a matter of

01:19:20.699 --> 01:19:23.140
which side of nihilism you subscribe to. Which

01:19:23.140 --> 01:19:25.659
one do you think is more dangerous? I think nihilism

01:19:25.659 --> 01:19:28.140
in and of itself is a little dangerous. Because

01:19:28.140 --> 01:19:29.539
when you start thinking that nothing matters,

01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:33.159
whether or not you're optimistic about the outcome

01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:37.300
of nothing mattering, you fail to see the bigger

01:19:37.300 --> 01:19:39.720
picture. Everything is the exact same amount

01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:43.479
of nothing. You stop looking for, you stop looking

01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:45.979
for meaning. And I think that is one of the most

01:19:45.979 --> 01:19:48.100
beautiful things about humanity is that we're

01:19:48.100 --> 01:19:50.380
always trying to figure out why's we always want

01:19:50.380 --> 01:19:53.020
to know why a thing is what it is. Even if a

01:19:53.020 --> 01:19:55.079
thing doesn't have an answer, we want to know

01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.140
what is going on in space. So we're going to

01:19:58.140 --> 01:20:00.300
keep searching, even though we have a really

01:20:00.300 --> 01:20:04.470
good. There's a really good quote from Pete Holmes

01:20:04.470 --> 01:20:10.609
about Christianity versus atheism. And a lot

01:20:10.609 --> 01:20:15.390
of it has to do with the fact that atheists may

01:20:15.390 --> 01:20:18.289
or may not think that whatever happens after

01:20:18.289 --> 01:20:22.550
we die is just nothing. And you should check

01:20:22.550 --> 01:20:27.390
it out. He makes an interesting observation on

01:20:27.390 --> 01:20:32.109
the connections that... Christianity and atheism

01:20:32.109 --> 01:20:35.430
may or may not have. Interesting. Okay. All right.

01:20:35.510 --> 01:20:42.630
Any final thoughts? AI is inevitable. There are

01:20:42.630 --> 01:20:46.529
definitely upsides to it, especially in fields

01:20:46.529 --> 01:20:51.630
like medicine. But it is something that you should

01:20:51.630 --> 01:20:56.689
use sparingly if you can. In the same way that

01:20:56.689 --> 01:20:59.329
you should be careful what you consume on the

01:20:59.329 --> 01:21:02.779
internet. because someone probably stands to

01:21:02.779 --> 01:21:05.579
gain something from you agreeing with it, consider

01:21:05.579 --> 01:21:09.100
that AI might be the same. That there might be

01:21:09.100 --> 01:21:12.979
someone standing to gain from you not being able

01:21:12.979 --> 01:21:17.859
to know a thing without using a large language

01:21:17.859 --> 01:21:22.579
model. And if you are a nihilist, nothing matters.

01:21:22.619 --> 01:21:26.840
Let's party. That's all I got. Well, I think

01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:32.689
for me... Don't lose your ability to be a critical

01:21:32.689 --> 01:21:37.329
thinker. It's one of the best qualities a human

01:21:37.329 --> 01:21:40.930
can have is just to be able to work through a

01:21:40.930 --> 01:21:45.430
problem. So don't let AI take over that for you.

01:21:45.670 --> 01:21:49.829
And on that note, we'll see you. Peace out, Girl

01:21:49.829 --> 01:21:50.149
Scouts.