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Five, four, three, two, one, zero. Welcome to

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the show, people. Welcome to the show. Eat my

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shorts. So here is to conversation. Tranquility

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base here. Vehicle has landed. Welcome to the

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Cash Exchange. What up? Okay, so I have a little

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bit non -traditional of a starter for you. What

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I'm going to do is I'm going to give you a list

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in order. I want you to tell me what this is

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a list of. Okay. All right, so it's going to

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be The Simpsons, South Park, Arthur, and Family

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Guy. Timeless animations. They are timeless animations.

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Animation shows. Arthur? Yeah. What do you have

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against Arthur? It's creepy drawings and... Just

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all together, it's unsettling. Have you ever

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seen the episode of Arthur that Lance Armstrong

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was on? Was he one of the actual humans? Yes.

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Those make me really uncomfy. Yeah, no, I didn't

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realize that Arthur was going to crack the third

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space in this list. But this list, do you have

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any more specific guesses as to what that order

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is? The most profitable animated TV series. Again

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with Arthur, that one's on PBS, so I don't think

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they make a whole lot of money from it. Most

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episodes. Longest running. Longest running animated

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shows in the U .S. I wouldn't have thought that.

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Didn't they cancel Arthur a couple years ago?

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Yeah. But now they do like specials. I didn't

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know they still did specials. But it ended in

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2022. Good riddance is what I say. Well, DW was

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an icon. I will not have this slander. So today's

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episode is a deep dive. Into number five. Numero

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cinco. Numero cinco. Now, before I kick this

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off, I do have one question for you. Are you

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ready, kids? Aye, aye, Captain. I can't hear

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you. Aye, aye, Captain. Okay, so if you haven't

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guessed by now, today's episode is about SpongeBob

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SquarePants, a show that is as old as me. It

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was first... Its first episode aired in May of

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99. So this show is going on. But you only got

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a beat by four months. This show is going on

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its 26th year. And now, what do they do now?

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Because I know it's not regularly scheduled now.

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Is it just specials now? So they still do episodes,

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but I think they've focused a lot less on the

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original IP and they've switched it to... All

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of the spinoffs and the movies and stuff that

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they have in the works. Which have exploded.

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It's crazy. Spinoff on spinoff. So the total,

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like, run time, essentially, of all of the SpongeBob

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stuff, or the collection that they have now,

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the show itself is 331 episodes to date. But

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that's not, like, full 30 -minute episodes. That's,

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like, the half -episode segments. No, I think

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it's the whole thing. The whole thing? I think

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it's the full, like, 30 -minute episodes. So

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they have like 600 and something vignettes? I

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think so. Actually, now that you mention that,

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I will need to double check that. I think it's

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331 actual whole time slotable episodes. Okay.

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I might be wrong. We need Jamie for this one.

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But it includes not only those 331 episodes,

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but also the spinoffs including Camp Coral and

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a Twilight Zone parody, which is a super bizarre

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choice and just very on brand for what Paramount

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Plus I think was going for. It's just throw everything.

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They've done the Twilight Zone. They've done

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NFL. They've done the weird VH1 Behind the Music

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stuff. They've been all over the place. They

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are beating the hell out of that IP. Oh, Behind

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the Music, the DocuPant series? Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

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no, they have... They have gone very hard into

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the SpongeBob thing, which, I mean, kind of makes

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sense because it is, I would argue, a show that

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shaped at least two generations. Yes. Although

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our dad is a bigger fan of SpongeBob, I think,

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than either of us were. I think so. If there's

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a lull, he's usually putting on something like

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SpongeBob on his phone or whenever he's with

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his grandkids, he'll put SpongeBob. On his phone,

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sitting on the couch, or it'll be like some obscure

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old -ass episode like Tom and Jerry, Mighty Mouse,

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something like that. It's time to put the Might

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Mouse in the White House. So on top of all of

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the spinoffs and all of the weird things that

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Paramount Plus has done with SpongeBob in the

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last couple of years, there's also soon to be

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a fifth movie. I will say, I tried to do a lot

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of research in this, but in the time frame that

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I had to kind of study up on SpongeBob, I did

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not make the... time and effort to watch the

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back three, or the back two. So I've seen Sponge

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Out of Water, which I love that it includes Keanu.

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That's about it. And then I watched the first

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one, which is iconic. No notes. So what was the

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second one? So the second one, I forget what

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exactly the plot is, but I think someone on the

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mainland gets the Krabby Patty secret formula,

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and so all of them turn into these bodybuilders,

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and it's... really uncomfortable because everyone's

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got like eight pack abs um and that's not that's

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not even the worst i would argue design for that

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movie because uh this the plankton version has

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this bodybuilder build but also just has the

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plankton head it is awful terrible to look at

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it was a whole movie that got greenlit and it

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feels like a thirst trap for very sick aquatic

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kids show yeah terrible Now, I will say that

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I'm a little biased, but our entire family loved

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the Sandy Cheeks movie. I need to watch it, but

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I really hate that animation style. I don't like

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the weird 3D CGI stuff. Yeah. It was good, though.

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It had Johnny Knoxville in it. Johnny Knoxville

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in it? Yeah, he was one of her brothers. Interesting.

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That's good. And then they're making their way

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down to an ocean lab in Galveston. Okay. And

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just so you know, for all you non -Texans, the

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geography in that movie does not make sense,

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and it is not accurate. So if you think you're

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going to use that as a basis to travel Texas,

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I would suggest against it. Okay, but since when

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do we believe in SpongeBob's take on Texas? They

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have bullied Texas since the first season. I

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mean... But in the end, Sandy is able to prove

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why she loves Texas so much and how great it

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truly is. It's fair, but it doesn't mean that

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they didn't spend the whole episode. Oh, man,

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I want the little dolphin noise to censor this.

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Talking crap about Texas. What is it? There's

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a line where SpongeBob says, Hey, Patrick, what

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am I? I don't know, stupid. No, I'm Texas. What's

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the difference? Hey, hey, did Connecticut get

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a shout out on Spongebob? An entire episode?

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Is there an episode of Spongebob called Connecticut?

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Can you tell me anything about the state of Connecticut

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in general? What about New Hampshire? White people,

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I can tell you that. Yeah? White lesbians that

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love foliage. Is that Connecticut? That feels

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very Vermont. It's all the same up there. Wow.

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It's all lesbians with their double handling,

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two hands on their cup of tea, just watching

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the leaves fall. I want to be in a place in my

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life where I can two -hand a mug of tea and watch

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the leaves fall. Well, you just need a couple

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more cats. Hey. You're on your way. She's on

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her way. Hey. Anyway. Your name. Did you know

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that? Did you know that's what your name means?

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I need the cricket sound back. Well, too bad.

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Yes, I did know. I'm sure you can do something

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with that. I'm doing so well that you could play

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my leg because I'm breaking a leg out here. So

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whenever you're ready. No. I won't. Okay. Also,

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I don't know which button it is. You got to look

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at the label. See what I mean? It's a flawed

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system. How do I wear the labels? You see where

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the pads are? Right there. You see where the

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pads are pictured? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's the

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one above it, not the one below it. I always

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think it's the one below it. How many times do

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we have to teach you this lesson, old man? There

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we go. There we go. Okay, so this show has had

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a stranglehold on millennials and Gen Z. It definitely

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had a stranglehold on, like, my household until

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recently. Yes. But does it have one on yours?

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Like, is your significant other also randomly

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quoting SpongeBob? Oh, no. No. No. My kids do.

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Yeah? Yeah. Really? I've trained them well. But

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as well as the Sig Oath, as I call her. No. For

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the record, do not support Sig Oath. Why not?

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I feel like you could have used S -O. I feel

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like S -O is a better way to shorten that. There's

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not enough punch to that one. That's just so

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-so. Sig Oath. Sig Oath is better. Did she watch

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SpongeBob growing up? I don't think so. We have

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very different opinions on what should be on

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the television. Okay. I don't think SpongeBob

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was really up her alley. Neither was The Simpsons.

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South Park was because of her brother. Okay.

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But, yeah, I don't think SpongeBob was a heavy

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hitter in their household. I will say that I

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think that our childhoods were a lot more shaped

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by animation than the majority. I don't know

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if that's 100 % true. Shout out to Malachkies.

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Yeah, I don't know if that's 100 % true, but

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I also know that we have watched a probably unhealthy

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amount of animated TV. Oh, without a doubt. But

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hey, are we better for it? That stands to be

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determined. We'll see. Maybe. I do think that

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a lot of my humor is shaped by shows like Spongebob.

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Oh, I quote it in my daily life all the time.

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Yeah? What are your, what quotes? Like, what

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do you quote often? Why don't you hit that top

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button? Sounds like a lot of... I use that one

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a lot. Whenever I'm making a sandwich, is mayonnaise

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an instrument? Okay. Goodbye, everyone. I'll

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remember you all in therapy. I think of that

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one a lot. East, I thought you said weest. You

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know, for a person who makes as many wrong turns

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as I do, I should really use that one more often.

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You don't take that as like an affront? That's

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not offensive to you? I'm aware of my limitations.

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Or anytime anything starts with a W, I automatically

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think of wombo. I wombo, you wombo, he, she,

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we. Wumbo? Wumbology? The study of Wumbo? I missed

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an opportunity with my major. I could have studied

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Wumbology. You could have. It's a shame. You

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could be on the cutting edge of Wumbology. Another

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one, just whenever I'm frustrated or I just want

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to annoy someone, just a little, little, little.

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That one, that quote is on the same level to

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me as like the annoying goat screaming thing

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that your daughter got for Christmas. Son. That

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your son got for Christmas. Yeah. Daughter's

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the one that abuses it, but it's technically

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it. Regardless, that's on the same playing field

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as the same level of annoyance. Oh, it is. I

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like that one. It is. And it's a tool to keep

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in your back pocket. Yeah. For whenever you just

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want someone to stop talking. A little, little,

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little. When there's certain people in our lives

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that want to talk about politics, a little, little,

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little. That's genius. Okay, so I might be coming

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around on that one. And then one of my better

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quotes that can be... used in the constant battle

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that is parenting is liar, liar, plants for hire.

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I don't know that one. I don't think I know where

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that one's from. Patrick says it, and then SpongeBob

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says, it's pants for hire, or it's pants on fire.

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And then Patrick said, you would know, liar.

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My entire childhood just flooding back to me

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right now. Yeah. It is genuinely. insane to me

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how Spongebob is interwoven into our lives. In

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looking into this episode, I don't think I watched

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Spongebob on purpose for years. But as soon as

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I was watching back over some of the stuff, I

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realized just how much I quote it. I don't use

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a lot of the ones that you have. My favorite

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ones are Are You Ready Kids? Every time I leave

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my house. To yourself? If I'm in other people's

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company. And I will be disappointed if I don't

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get an aye -aye cap. Whenever I went to Massachusetts,

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I took a picture of Plymouth Rock, which, for

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the record, super disappointing. Plymouth Pebble.

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It's just a boulder. Or actually, it's not a

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boulder. It's a rock! And the Goofy Goober song.

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It plays in my head, rent -free, just way too

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often. Which version? Which version? Yeah. Is

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it the Weenie Hut Jr.? Or is it the... No, the

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wizard Spongebob at the end of the movie. The

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Goofy Goober rock. I'm a Goofy Goober rock. I

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think about it a lot. See, I think that's where

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we differ, because I... I am a goofy goober.

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You're a goofy goober, yeah. We're all goofy,

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goofy, goofy, goofy, goofy goobers, yeah. And

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then I have my kids, especially the youngest.

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She'll do something. She's like, I'm being a

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real goober right now. And it makes me so proud.

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I love it. That is A -plus parenting. So I was

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looking at kind of how we ended up with SpongeBob

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as this kind of cultural touchdown. Because there

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were a lot of other shows and stuff that came

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out, I think, in the same time that didn't have

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the same staying power. And I was watching a

00:16:56.110 --> 00:16:58.809
deep dive on YouTube on its cultural impact,

00:16:59.049 --> 00:17:04.289
which is by Luis? I don't know. But there's a

00:17:04.289 --> 00:17:06.190
video on YouTube, and it's talking about how,

00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:09.940
SpongeBob got so big and stayed so long because

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it kind of came of age when the internet did.

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And so it just had all of this basis for being

00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.539
on the forefront of internet culture. And the

00:17:23.539 --> 00:17:25.319
people who were raised with the internet, so

00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.940
millennials and Gen Z, use that to their advantage.

00:17:28.059 --> 00:17:31.519
And that's why there is a billion SpongeBob memes.

00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:37.119
I have a shirt that has all of them. I didn't

00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.420
realize how much SpongeBob clothing I own or

00:17:39.420 --> 00:17:42.400
how many SpongeBob things. I'm in a SpongeBob

00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.279
hoodie if you're not watching the video right

00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:49.759
now. I had a yellow shirt, just yellow, which

00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.920
is not a flattering color on a little chubby

00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.980
fifth grader. I thought this was going to be

00:17:56.980 --> 00:18:00.039
present day. You kind of look like a rubber duck.

00:18:00.380 --> 00:18:03.539
But it had SpongeBob's face on the front. And

00:18:03.539 --> 00:18:07.529
then on the back. It said Spongebob nudie pants.

00:18:07.910 --> 00:18:10.650
Oh, that's unfortunate. This is a shirt for children,

00:18:10.809 --> 00:18:14.509
which, I mean, technically he wasn't wearing

00:18:14.509 --> 00:18:17.069
clothes, but he doesn't have any genitals. So

00:18:17.069 --> 00:18:19.109
I don't see what the real issue is besides the

00:18:19.109 --> 00:18:22.609
word nudie pants. Yeah. Anyways, I got pulled

00:18:22.609 --> 00:18:26.549
aside by my prude of a fifth grade teacher. Hey,

00:18:26.809 --> 00:18:31.690
yeah, maybe let's not wear that shirt to school

00:18:31.690 --> 00:18:33.849
again. Maybe she was just trying to save you

00:18:33.849 --> 00:18:35.630
from wearing the color yellow. It doesn't look

00:18:35.630 --> 00:18:38.670
good on anyone. Maybe, maybe. That's possible,

00:18:38.730 --> 00:18:43.809
I guess. Miss, I don't know. She was also the

00:18:43.809 --> 00:18:45.750
teacher that made us send home permission slips

00:18:45.750 --> 00:18:49.509
so we could watch Romeo and Juliet. Is that weird?

00:18:50.950 --> 00:18:53.390
Is what weird? That you had to send out a permission

00:18:53.390 --> 00:18:56.910
slip for Romeo and Juliet? Oh, I just think it

00:18:56.910 --> 00:18:59.529
was weird that fifth graders were seeing some

00:18:59.529 --> 00:19:03.190
tea towels on the television. But then we also

00:19:03.190 --> 00:19:07.170
read The Giver, which also has some scenes that

00:19:07.170 --> 00:19:10.329
are a little much for some fifth grade boys to

00:19:10.329 --> 00:19:13.549
handle. I don't think I read that one. I think

00:19:13.549 --> 00:19:15.109
that's one of the things that's theoretically

00:19:15.109 --> 00:19:17.390
getting banned, so I probably should before it's

00:19:17.390 --> 00:19:22.269
gone. You probably should. So another important

00:19:22.269 --> 00:19:30.890
aspect of SpongeBob is the music. And we've touched

00:19:30.890 --> 00:19:34.029
on some of it already, but do you have a list

00:19:34.029 --> 00:19:39.390
of your top songs from SpongeBob? So my number

00:19:39.390 --> 00:19:42.750
one, and this is entirely based on the fact that

00:19:42.750 --> 00:19:44.529
I learned to play it on the ukulele, is The Grass

00:19:44.529 --> 00:19:47.890
Skirt Chase. It is one of the things I'm proudest

00:19:47.890 --> 00:19:54.170
of in terms of playing the ukulele. Fun is a

00:19:54.170 --> 00:19:57.990
great song. It is. To a point. All of these are

00:19:57.990 --> 00:20:01.700
to a point. The Campfire Song is not my favorite.

00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:07.259
The Ripped Pants Song, 10 out of 10. The Campfire

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Song has the ability to overstay its welcome

00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:15.039
after the first play. Yes. But if you are in

00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:16.599
the presence of children, you're probably not

00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:18.980
going to get away with just one play. You won't.

00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:21.720
Ripped Pants, kids think that's the funniest

00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:27.539
thing ever. And I agree. It is. I agree. Goofy

00:20:27.539 --> 00:20:31.470
Goober Song. Fun song, yeah. I mean, you got

00:20:31.470 --> 00:20:34.890
all of them, except for you didn't mention a

00:20:34.890 --> 00:20:38.990
song that wasn't original to SpongeBob, but SpongeBob

00:20:38.990 --> 00:20:41.349
definitely threw it up into the stratosphere.

00:20:42.390 --> 00:20:46.670
Sweet Victory? Sweet Victory. That was one of

00:20:46.670 --> 00:20:50.269
the things I also wanted to touch on in this

00:20:50.269 --> 00:20:53.349
episode, that Sweet Victory, the halftime show,

00:20:53.470 --> 00:20:56.250
incredible episode. It did not scratch my top

00:20:56.250 --> 00:20:59.789
five, but that is for... No lack of quality.

00:21:01.490 --> 00:21:04.970
But whenever Stephen Hillenburg died, there was

00:21:04.970 --> 00:21:09.569
a change .org petition to get Sweet Victory played

00:21:09.569 --> 00:21:12.809
at the Super Bowl halftime show. It got 1 .2

00:21:12.809 --> 00:21:15.910
million signatures. As it should. As it should,

00:21:15.990 --> 00:21:20.910
absolutely. And so whenever we were coming up

00:21:20.910 --> 00:21:24.230
on the Super Bowl, Adam Levine, because if this

00:21:24.230 --> 00:21:26.609
is any... Frame of reference for the time period,

00:21:26.910 --> 00:21:29.430
Maroon 5 was playing the Super Bowl halftime

00:21:29.430 --> 00:21:32.910
show. Adam Levine posted a video and Spongebob

00:21:32.910 --> 00:21:36.210
was in the background. Was this before or after

00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:38.170
he wanted to name his child after his mistress?

00:21:39.450 --> 00:21:43.890
This was before the... I was going to quote the

00:21:43.890 --> 00:21:46.769
tweets or whatever it was, the DMs, and I can't

00:21:46.769 --> 00:21:52.730
remember what they were, thankfully. But the...

00:21:54.339 --> 00:21:56.740
Yeah, so he posted about it, and so people lost

00:21:56.740 --> 00:21:58.799
their minds. They were like, oh, okay, so we're

00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.039
going to do this great tribute to Stephen Hillenburg,

00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:04.740
and he is going to get the kind of send -off

00:22:04.740 --> 00:22:07.279
that he deserves. And then the Super Bowl comes

00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.859
around. And if you are not familiar with the

00:22:11.859 --> 00:22:14.900
episode of SpongeBob, this is probably not the

00:22:14.900 --> 00:22:18.480
episode for you, the podcast episode. I don't

00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.960
know how you could know anything about SpongeBob

00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.980
and not know about Sweet Victory. If you consider

00:22:24.980 --> 00:22:27.960
our current viewership base of members of our

00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:33.000
family, it's very possible. No. No? Not mine.

00:22:34.180 --> 00:22:37.299
No. One of us adopted? What do you mean not yours?

00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:42.940
What do you mean? I mean our listenership right

00:22:42.940 --> 00:22:47.480
now is the members of our family who wouldn't

00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:50.140
have watched Spongebob. Okay, but they've all

00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:52.910
seen it. The little ones would definitely know

00:22:52.910 --> 00:22:54.349
what Sweet Victory is. I'm not talking about

00:22:54.349 --> 00:22:57.569
the little ones. Okay, well, don't downplay my

00:22:57.569 --> 00:22:59.269
family. They're part of my family. They're part

00:22:59.269 --> 00:23:01.210
of your family. They are. Do they listen to the

00:23:01.210 --> 00:23:04.589
podcast? You jerk. I'm talking about the ones

00:23:04.589 --> 00:23:06.690
who actively listen to the podcast. Do your children

00:23:06.690 --> 00:23:10.250
listen to the podcast? Yes, and that is not because

00:23:10.250 --> 00:23:16.470
of me. No? No, it's because of decisions made

00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:19.710
outside of my control. But you know what? Hey,

00:23:19.769 --> 00:23:25.380
guys. All three of you. Love you. There we go.

00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:28.019
I got their shout out. Yeah. I am not trying

00:23:28.019 --> 00:23:30.759
to downplay the legitimacy of the younger members

00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:35.440
of our family. I'm just saying if they're choosing

00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.140
to listen to things. And what about our listener

00:23:38.140 --> 00:23:41.680
in Botswana? That always pops up whenever we

00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.700
post a new episode. You know, whoever's at that

00:23:45.700 --> 00:23:49.240
internet cafe. And Guinea -Bissau. Shout out

00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.799
to them. We're big in Africa. Are we now? Yeah,

00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:55.400
apparently. We're trying to be Bono. According

00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:59.000
to the analytics, we're big in Africa. That's

00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:04.000
going to be our first shirt. It's going to be

00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:10.900
us and then AIDS. Anyway, so if you are not familiar,

00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:16.960
in the episode, what is it, Band Geeks? Yes.

00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.019
In the episode Band Geeks, they do this like.

00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:25.109
lead up to the actual song. And so it's Squidward

00:24:25.109 --> 00:24:27.150
and SpongeBob doing this little introduction

00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:30.829
thing. So they do the introduction, and it cuts

00:24:30.829 --> 00:24:35.349
to Maroon 5 doing their whole thing, which felt

00:24:35.349 --> 00:24:37.990
very much, circling back to present day, like

00:24:37.990 --> 00:24:43.809
the Better Man biopic or whatever, where he's

00:24:43.809 --> 00:24:45.970
like, for the next two hours, your ass is mine!

00:24:46.150 --> 00:24:48.109
And then it just plays the gentlest of pop songs.

00:24:58.050 --> 00:25:01.609
Adam Levine looking like a Chipotle bag. Hey,

00:25:01.730 --> 00:25:05.529
if you get the opportunity, anyone out there,

00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:09.390
look up the Adam Levine skit where he fights

00:25:09.390 --> 00:25:13.690
Train. It's an SNL skit where Maroon 5 fights

00:25:13.690 --> 00:25:16.690
Train. All right. Well, I know that we're watching

00:25:16.690 --> 00:25:21.289
after this. Sure. Wuss rock domination. I've

00:25:21.289 --> 00:25:23.170
never heard a more accurate description of Maroon

00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:28.269
5 than wuss rock. Anyway, so people were not

00:25:28.269 --> 00:25:31.369
happy because they had teased this like... As

00:25:31.369 --> 00:25:34.009
they should not be. Absolutely. Because they

00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:36.250
teased the Super Bowl performance and it was

00:25:36.250 --> 00:25:40.130
like 10 seconds, maybe. Do you think that had

00:25:40.130 --> 00:25:44.289
any effect on the Great Flush? The what? Do you

00:25:44.289 --> 00:25:48.569
know what the Great Flush is? That's the thing.

00:25:48.569 --> 00:25:50.450
I'm not making it up. This is an actual thing.

00:25:50.569 --> 00:25:54.049
This is a thing that engineers take into consideration.

00:25:55.430 --> 00:26:00.869
Yeah. It is the start of halftime during the

00:26:00.869 --> 00:26:05.390
Super Bowl. Everyone goes to the bathroom and

00:26:05.390 --> 00:26:07.970
is flushing at the same time, and it puts a huge

00:26:07.970 --> 00:26:12.630
strain on our plumbing system. And I'm not kidding.

00:26:12.730 --> 00:26:15.549
This is a thing. Look it up. The Super Bowl Great

00:26:15.549 --> 00:26:18.150
Flush. I won't, and I do not believe you. It

00:26:18.150 --> 00:26:23.289
is. I'll look it up right now. That's fine. So

00:26:23.289 --> 00:26:28.589
while you're figuring this thing out, people

00:26:28.589 --> 00:26:32.650
were upset about the Super Bowl, and the heroes

00:26:32.650 --> 00:26:36.690
of this story are the Dallas Stars. Go home team.

00:26:38.549 --> 00:26:41.740
During their... I want to say it was a playoff

00:26:41.740 --> 00:26:44.960
game. For their halftime show, they did the whole

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.500
performance of Sweet Victory and redeemed the

00:26:48.500 --> 00:26:55.099
tribute to Stephen Hillenburg. RIP. Okay, here

00:26:55.099 --> 00:26:57.920
we go. Are you ready? What do you got? From Times

00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:03.000
Herald Online. This was written by Matthias Gaffney.

00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.039
It was last updated August 30th, 2018. What kind

00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.700
of name is Matthias Gaffney? A very reputable

00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:17.019
one, actually. Sure. Okay. Yada, yada, yada.

00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.160
No other man -made event, not the World Series,

00:27:22.339 --> 00:27:25.279
an American Idol episode, nor the Olympics causes

00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:31.039
such an increase, said Tyrone Jue. Jue? J -U

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:35.539
-E. How would you spell that? Jue. Sounds okay.

00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.200
I don't know why you're passing judgment on this

00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.640
man. You don't know. But for the San Francisco

00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:42.599
Public Utilities Commission, the Super Bowl is

00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.599
the one time that happens. Yeah. In the wastewater

00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.200
industry, that's a known fact that wastewater

00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.880
goes up in that window. And it is known as the

00:27:53.880 --> 00:28:03.259
great flush. Okay. Thank you. All right. Now

00:28:03.259 --> 00:28:06.279
that's settled. Back on the topic of Steven Hillenburg.

00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:09.339
Actually, do you have any other fun Super Bowl

00:28:09.339 --> 00:28:10.839
facts you want to throw at me? Anything you want

00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:15.059
to contribute to Sweet Victory? Do you want to

00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:20.259
give us a full rendition? Not for free. No, that'll

00:28:20.259 --> 00:28:24.599
be on our Patreon. Yeah? Yeah. I'll track down

00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:30.059
one of my high school marching band outfits,

00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.920
uniforms. Do you still own those? Full plume.

00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:39.200
Full plume, really. But I could get a very good

00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:43.839
-looking knockoff. I went thrift shopping the

00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.940
other day, and I found someone's whole high school

00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:50.700
and middle school career worth of band recordings.

00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.000
And I'm very curious if that was the person who

00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.779
had graduated and wanted to distance themselves

00:28:56.779 --> 00:28:59.519
reasonably from being in a middle school and

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.359
high school band, or if it was a parent that

00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.900
was just like, eh. You want some advice? What?

00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:12.339
If you have even, I don't know, the smallest

00:29:12.339 --> 00:29:18.440
amount of riz, you got that riz on you, join

00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:24.460
band. Because it is like fish in a barrel. The

00:29:24.460 --> 00:29:28.299
dudes in band are freaking nerds. But there's

00:29:28.299 --> 00:29:37.609
some hot ladies. How long were you in band? 7th

00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:42.910
through 10th grade. I stayed long enough to go

00:29:42.910 --> 00:29:46.750
on the Disney World trip. Yeah. And then after

00:29:46.750 --> 00:29:50.730
that, I decided that I had other priorities.

00:29:51.950 --> 00:29:55.829
Being a jock? No, because I quit football too.

00:29:56.509 --> 00:30:00.009
No, my priorities were just, you know, being

00:30:00.009 --> 00:30:07.220
an upstanding citizen. outstanding student, taking

00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:10.539
care of the less fortunate in my community. And

00:30:10.539 --> 00:30:13.839
honestly, just band and football just didn't

00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.200
jive with that direction that my life was heading.

00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.460
That's impressive. Thank you. Thank you. It is.

00:30:21.900 --> 00:30:24.460
It is. And I need to take time to recognize that.

00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.619
So I appreciate you giving me that opportunity

00:30:28.619 --> 00:30:35.869
for you seeing me. and allowing me to feel this

00:30:35.869 --> 00:30:41.509
about myself. Thank you. Mariska Hargitay. Mariska

00:30:41.509 --> 00:30:44.970
Hargitay. How long are you going to be eating?

00:30:45.029 --> 00:30:53.609
My God. If I had a nickel. No, no, no. I didn't

00:30:53.609 --> 00:30:56.650
mean that in any kind of obscene way. I didn't

00:30:56.650 --> 00:31:01.019
think you did. Okay, but you looked at me. Maybe

00:31:01.019 --> 00:31:02.200
I did. I don't know. Yeah, because how often

00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.079
has that been said in any context? You know.

00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.059
I've lived a full life, man. Full life. Yeah,

00:31:11.059 --> 00:31:13.720
you were a band nerd and a jock, and then you

00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:17.259
were an upstanding citizen. Yep. And now we're

00:31:17.259 --> 00:31:20.579
here. Just a couple other minor things sprinkled

00:31:20.579 --> 00:31:23.779
in between, but yeah. That's the gist of it,

00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:28.200
yeah. Are you fat shaming the cat with the pooch?

00:31:29.230 --> 00:31:33.210
I am not fat shaming her. I just need her to

00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:38.269
pick a better time to be doing that. So what

00:31:38.269 --> 00:31:43.190
are your favorite side characters for SpongeBob?

00:31:43.390 --> 00:31:48.190
My favorite side characters? I mean, would you

00:31:48.190 --> 00:31:51.650
consider Mr. Krabs as part of the main cast?

00:31:52.509 --> 00:31:55.410
He's not on my shirt. So that's the main cast?

00:31:55.650 --> 00:31:58.460
I think so. Okay. Crazy that... Plankton and

00:31:58.460 --> 00:32:01.440
Gary made it, but not Mr. Krabs. They just didn't

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:04.940
have room. So you got Mr. Krabs, you got Pearl,

00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:09.680
Larry the Lobster, Fred the Fish, who's the one

00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.700
that says, my leg, and then play my other favorite.

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:21.400
Pretty girl. Nope, that's not it. What is your...

00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:26.039
Oh, Hoopla? No, this guy stinks. I don't have

00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.869
that. Huh? I don't have that one. You didn't

00:32:29.869 --> 00:32:33.970
put that on there? I did not. We were going to

00:32:33.970 --> 00:32:35.769
talk about this in the production meeting after.

00:32:36.089 --> 00:32:39.170
Yeah? Are we? Okay. I'm just asking you to be

00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:41.910
professional. That's all I'm asking for. We're

00:32:41.910 --> 00:32:45.009
recording a podcast episode on Spongebob that

00:32:45.009 --> 00:32:50.430
we had to pause for because the cast... Maybe

00:32:50.430 --> 00:32:53.589
lower your standards a little. Okay. Yeah, I

00:32:53.589 --> 00:32:56.710
guess that's whatever. My favorite side character

00:32:56.710 --> 00:33:00.720
is... Kevin is up there. The sea cucumber. Doodle

00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.579
Bob. Doodle Bob. Very much so. Pearl. Perch Perkins.

00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.960
I don't really care for Pearl. No, me either.

00:33:11.140 --> 00:33:14.640
Mrs. Puff. I'm not a big fan of Mrs. Puff either.

00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:18.180
Flats the Flounder. I do like Flats and Bubble

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:21.160
Bass. Bubble Bass. My all -time favorite character.

00:33:22.980 --> 00:33:25.880
He's more of a cameo than a secondary character

00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.299
or a side character. And that is the man known

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:34.779
as Smitty Warburton Yagerman Jensen. Is he your

00:33:34.779 --> 00:33:37.200
favorite because he was number one? He was number

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.680
one! And I'm never going to let anyone forget

00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.299
that. I'm going to keep his memory alive of being

00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:45.519
number one. Yeah? Yeah. Are you going to get

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.480
him immortalized as a tattoo? Oh, one day. One

00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.640
day. I've got to get my millhouse first. Working

00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:56.170
on it. You know, I'm a... Ooh, Squilliam. I'm

00:33:56.170 --> 00:34:00.250
a fan of Squilliam Fancy Son. He's a good one.

00:34:00.450 --> 00:34:04.230
He's a good one. He really rocks that. You call

00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:07.650
it a unibrow or a monobrow? Unibrow. Have you

00:34:07.650 --> 00:34:12.250
ever heard the term monobrow? Okay. Because I

00:34:12.250 --> 00:34:17.730
have used that term in my life and gotten a lot

00:34:17.730 --> 00:34:20.190
of side looks like I'm just crazy because that's

00:34:20.190 --> 00:34:24.289
not what it is. But it definitely is. We grow

00:34:24.289 --> 00:34:28.730
up. We grew up around enough. Enough what? Enough

00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:34.750
people who, if they chose to, could be considered

00:34:34.750 --> 00:34:41.449
of Indian descent or Bangladeshi. And so I think

00:34:41.449 --> 00:34:48.409
I am able to make the call that it can be either

00:34:48.409 --> 00:34:51.329
monobrow or unibrow because I've seen enough

00:34:51.329 --> 00:34:53.670
of them in my lifetime. That's disappointing.

00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:55.489
There's not actually a difference between them.

00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:59.469
Nice. I thought there would be like one of them

00:34:59.469 --> 00:35:01.190
is this shape and one of them is this shape.

00:35:02.630 --> 00:35:05.349
One of them's like a couple of hairs in the middle

00:35:05.349 --> 00:35:07.710
and the other one's just a full brow. But no.

00:35:11.110 --> 00:35:13.829
Yeah, no. I think that's all of my favorite of

00:35:13.829 --> 00:35:16.429
the side characters. I did not know that the

00:35:16.429 --> 00:35:20.449
My Leg guy's name was Fred. Fred the Fish. Ooh,

00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:25.000
Dennis. The member of the village people that's

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:31.280
in the SpongeBob movie. Alec Baldwin. What about

00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.380
the Hoff? I did like the Hoff in that specific

00:35:34.380 --> 00:35:37.219
instance, but based on what else I know about

00:35:37.219 --> 00:35:40.099
the Hoff, not my favorite. You don't like Cheeseburger

00:35:40.099 --> 00:35:43.000
on the Floor, Hoff? Not particularly, no. That's

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.800
one of my favorites. Yeah? Yeah. It was chronically

00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.599
online back in the earlier days of the internet.

00:35:52.420 --> 00:35:55.960
What about conspiracies? What Spongebob conspiracies

00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.699
do you have for me? So there's the one that everyone,

00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.000
every animated show at least has gotten, which

00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.000
is one of these people is real and the rest of

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.500
them are hallucinations or they're all some kind

00:36:08.500 --> 00:36:11.340
of like mental illness. The Patrick's ADHD and

00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:14.079
Spongebob is OCD, something like that. The seven

00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.500
deadly sins. Yes. That kind of thing. A lot of

00:36:17.500 --> 00:36:20.800
every. Show gets the seven deadly sins treatment.

00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.980
How would you place them? As far as seven deadly

00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:27.820
sins? Yes. You get Mr. Krabs' greed, obviously.

00:36:28.739 --> 00:36:38.179
Patrick is... Was he sloth or gluttony? Plankton

00:36:38.179 --> 00:36:46.059
is envy. Squidward is pride. Wrath. Sandy is

00:36:46.059 --> 00:36:50.239
pride. Sandy's pride, okay. And Spongebob is

00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.940
lust just because of how much he obsesses over

00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:58.619
everything. Like everything has to take his entire

00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:05.739
attention. And then for gluttony, Gary. Yeah,

00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.480
I don't agree with that lineup, but sure. Well,

00:37:09.500 --> 00:37:13.440
this is what I found on the Internet, and everyone

00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:14.679
knows everything on the Internet is completely

00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.309
true. I didn't completely agree with the lust

00:37:19.309 --> 00:37:27.110
in SpongeBob. But it's kind of like in Gilligan's

00:37:27.110 --> 00:37:34.650
Island, how there's Skipper, Marianne, Ginger.

00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:37.130
Ginger, the professor, the billionaire, and his

00:37:37.130 --> 00:37:42.469
wife. Yeah, so in a lot of those, about ooh.

00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:44.980
Gilligan's Island is about the seven deadly sins.

00:37:45.699 --> 00:37:49.980
One of them has, one of them double dips, and

00:37:49.980 --> 00:37:54.260
then it's Gilligan that is the devil running

00:37:54.260 --> 00:37:57.280
the show, keeping him on the island. I will say

00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.380
in the terms of that specific kind of theory

00:38:00.380 --> 00:38:03.099
where it's the seven deadly sins, I could agree

00:38:03.099 --> 00:38:05.800
with the Gilligan's Island and the Willy Wonka

00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.280
and the Chocolate Factory ones. I think that

00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.260
those make sense as the seven deadly sins. I

00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:13.159
think it's stupid whenever it's... Like Spongebob

00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.440
or I think Winnie the Pooh is one of them. That

00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.599
one might have been mental illnesses. I think

00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.440
Winnie the Pooh is mental illness. It's like

00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:28.840
Tigger is ADHD and Eeyore is depression. Yeah,

00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:33.280
and our mom's favorite is Eeyore for some strange

00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.480
reason. She likes an underdog. What about the

00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.599
fact that they're all mutated freaks because

00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.099
of all the... nuclear testing that we've done

00:38:42.099 --> 00:38:46.320
at the Bikini Atoll. I fully stand behind this

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.420
one. Yeah? You think it's true? Yeah. Especially

00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:54.659
because Hillenburg was a marine biologist. Yeah.

00:38:54.659 --> 00:38:56.039
And so I think if there was going to be some

00:38:56.039 --> 00:39:00.380
kind of basis to the conspiracy theories that

00:39:00.380 --> 00:39:01.980
there are about SpongeBob, it would be that one.

00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.619
That there are genuinely, like, mutated things

00:39:06.619 --> 00:39:08.280
in the Bikini Atoll because it was our nuclear

00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.679
testing site. I was actually watching a video

00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.599
yesterday. Couldn't tell you the creator. Yeah,

00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.960
I can. Y -Files. It's Y -Files. And they were

00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:24.159
talking about all the places that they have done

00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.860
all these nuclear tests and life is thriving

00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:32.280
there. Like fish, coral, all this stuff is. But

00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.480
then they're also like kind of mutated. Okay.

00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:39.590
That's worth looking into. I mean, I think, like,

00:39:39.630 --> 00:39:43.630
the forests of Chernobyl are also kind of thriving,

00:39:43.710 --> 00:39:45.409
but not with anything I'd want to be around.

00:39:46.449 --> 00:39:52.309
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. The world's a funny

00:39:52.309 --> 00:40:00.690
place, you know? Yeah. What about the theory

00:40:00.690 --> 00:40:05.469
that SpongeBob is a tampon, a sponge that lives

00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:09.820
in a bikini bottom? Best friend is a starfish.

00:40:12.179 --> 00:40:15.300
Also hangs around with sandy cheeks. I have no

00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:19.500
comment on this one. I mean... Did you get that

00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:23.260
from iFunny? Where is this conspiracy theory

00:40:23.260 --> 00:40:25.599
from? I mean, I've known about this one since

00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.659
forever. I don't know where it originally came

00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:35.300
from. But it's all adding up. This lady needs

00:40:35.300 --> 00:40:40.300
to be checked out because she also has... Uh

00:40:40.300 --> 00:40:43.639
-huh. So you're giving this theory no validity.

00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.039
I am giving that theory no validity. After everything

00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.039
that I have laid out before you, you're just

00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.000
going to tell me no? I will accept seven deadly

00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.800
sins way before I accept Spongebob is a tampon.

00:40:57.940 --> 00:41:00.780
Would you prefer Diva Cup? I don't think he's

00:41:00.780 --> 00:41:02.840
made of the right material to be a Diva Cup.

00:41:04.900 --> 00:41:10.340
Oh. Oh, man. Okay. You know what? I'm just going

00:41:10.340 --> 00:41:15.360
to say it. And I don't care who disagrees with

00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.219
me, but I just feel like it's something that

00:41:18.219 --> 00:41:21.920
needs to be said. Spongebob's a pretty great

00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:26.260
show. It is. It really is. I definitely had...

00:41:26.260 --> 00:41:31.260
Not so much now. I had... I don't think it's

00:41:31.260 --> 00:41:35.829
just a matter of... I was a kid, so I just look

00:41:35.829 --> 00:41:41.869
back at it nostalgically. But I do think that

00:41:41.869 --> 00:41:47.710
it is... The older stuff is better than the new

00:41:47.710 --> 00:41:51.309
stuff. I think they started running out of ideas

00:41:51.309 --> 00:41:55.289
and then got a little crazy. Plus, then they

00:41:55.289 --> 00:41:59.110
started adding all these silly characters that

00:41:59.110 --> 00:42:03.980
I didn't care for. Yeah. Like the... After the

00:42:03.980 --> 00:42:06.059
movie when they started adding the mermaids and

00:42:06.059 --> 00:42:10.480
Poseidon and all that. Quick circle back. Favorite

00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.039
side character. I completely skipped my top three.

00:42:14.019 --> 00:42:15.880
Flying Dutchman, Mermaid Man, and Barnacle Boy.

00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:18.400
Sorry, I needed to interject that. It was going

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:24.380
to bother me. I didn't even think about the Flying

00:42:24.380 --> 00:42:27.079
Dutchman. That's a good one, but I'm still going

00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.059
with Smitty Warburton, Yangerman, Jensen. That's

00:42:31.059 --> 00:42:34.769
fair. Yeah, when it comes to, I haven't seen

00:42:34.769 --> 00:42:37.329
a lot of the new shows, so I don't know how much

00:42:37.329 --> 00:42:39.250
they've actually involved mermaids and all that

00:42:39.250 --> 00:42:43.849
kind of stuff. But one of the kind of through

00:42:43.849 --> 00:42:45.989
lines that I found in watching it was that it

00:42:45.989 --> 00:42:51.289
had the same kind of flanderization that all

00:42:51.289 --> 00:42:55.690
of the animated shows eventually get. And everyone

00:42:55.690 --> 00:42:58.329
says, hi, diddly -ho. Something like that, yeah.

00:43:00.340 --> 00:43:03.039
Flanderization. I'm wearing nothing at all. Nothing

00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:07.599
at all? Nothing at all? Man, I love stupid sexy

00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.619
Flanders. So Flanderization is essentially the

00:43:12.619 --> 00:43:16.519
process of dumbing a character down into just

00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:22.320
this one caricaturistic trait. So whenever Ned

00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.440
Flanders was first on The Simpsons, he was this

00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.480
well -rounded, he was a churchy guy, but he wasn't.

00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.739
Just religion. He was a whole person who just

00:43:30.739 --> 00:43:33.880
happened to very strongly believe in his faith.

00:43:33.980 --> 00:43:37.400
He was secretly old as hell and ripped. Yeah.

00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:43.239
Stupid, sexy Flanders. But as time went on, when

00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.380
people started liking certain aspects of him,

00:43:46.420 --> 00:43:48.480
they ended up just kind of paring him down into

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:53.679
this widower who was just aggressively religious.

00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.460
And that was just kind of... A widow or twice

00:43:56.460 --> 00:44:00.139
over. Twice over, yeah, well. Do you think that

00:44:00.139 --> 00:44:03.500
him and Kerbopple would have lasted had Marshall

00:44:03.500 --> 00:44:05.679
Wallace still been around? I think so. I think

00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:11.219
that they were a yin and yang. Yeah. But yeah,

00:44:11.300 --> 00:44:13.320
so flanderization is a thing that happens to

00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.539
a lot of shows where you just kind of like lean

00:44:16.539 --> 00:44:18.360
into this one characteristic and that just becomes

00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.500
the whole person. Like Stewie Griffin being gay.

00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:25.139
Like that's just all he is now. He's not all

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:27.519
world destruction and all of that. Closeted.

00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.360
What part of him is closeted? Does he admit it?

00:44:33.219 --> 00:44:35.719
There's an episode where they go to Vegas and

00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:40.780
he hires an escort as a person named Archibald

00:44:40.780 --> 00:44:46.659
Meatpants. That sounds like a Moneybags Big Wiener

00:44:46.659 --> 00:44:48.800
type of situation. It is very much a Moneybags

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:54.610
Big Wiener situation. See, this is why I hope

00:44:54.610 --> 00:44:59.769
that your kids don't listen to this show. But

00:44:59.769 --> 00:45:02.809
yeah, so in a lot of ways, SpongeBob got the

00:45:02.809 --> 00:45:04.929
same treatment where a lot of their characters

00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:10.630
just became this one trait. SpongeBob became

00:45:10.630 --> 00:45:16.750
a goofball. Patrick was the idiot. Mr. Krabs

00:45:16.750 --> 00:45:19.949
was just all greed. Plankton was just all indie.

00:45:21.579 --> 00:45:23.280
All of that kind of stuff. And it's just gotten

00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.340
a lot weaker because there's not well -rounded

00:45:27.340 --> 00:45:30.260
people anymore. Early on, Spongebob was very

00:45:30.260 --> 00:45:33.480
driven. He wanted to be employee of the month.

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:36.960
He wanted to be able to pass his driving test.

00:45:37.099 --> 00:45:40.440
He wanted to do all these things, but just his

00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.659
personality got in the way. But now it's just,

00:45:43.699 --> 00:45:47.619
what's the stupidest thing we can come up with

00:45:47.619 --> 00:45:53.610
for him to do to kill 30 minutes? Yeah, and so

00:45:53.610 --> 00:45:56.150
I don't know. It's kind of a thought process

00:45:56.150 --> 00:45:58.230
that I've had with a lot of shows and stuff that

00:45:58.230 --> 00:46:00.309
I'll like circle back to eventually that I don't

00:46:00.309 --> 00:46:01.909
know if the shows themselves are getting worse

00:46:01.909 --> 00:46:04.789
because of that kind of flanderization or if

00:46:04.789 --> 00:46:07.289
I'm just stuck in this like nostalgia loop of

00:46:07.289 --> 00:46:10.750
like I was raised on first couple seasons of

00:46:10.750 --> 00:46:12.289
SpongeBob and so those are the ones that are

00:46:12.289 --> 00:46:15.030
near and dear to me. The deviation from that,

00:46:15.050 --> 00:46:17.869
the new age SpongeBob just doesn't feel the same

00:46:17.869 --> 00:46:20.349
to me. And so I don't have those kind of like

00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:23.619
emotional ties. And so I don't know if that's

00:46:23.619 --> 00:46:26.400
what's happening or if the quality has actually

00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:28.360
just gone down. Although I will say that I'm

00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.820
not a fan of the current animation style. I don't

00:46:31.820 --> 00:46:34.780
like what they've done with the 2D SpongeBob

00:46:34.780 --> 00:46:42.639
or any of the spinoffs. What about the 2D that

00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.019
you don't like? Just like that it's so much brighter?

00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:52.630
It feels lazy. So in the same... Circling back

00:46:52.630 --> 00:46:54.869
to another animated show, in the same Family

00:46:54.869 --> 00:46:59.050
Guy way that Family Guy came out in 97, and then

00:46:59.050 --> 00:47:03.289
they've kind of altered their style as time went

00:47:03.289 --> 00:47:07.010
on. But after Family Guy got really big, every

00:47:07.010 --> 00:47:10.230
animated show you see on Fox that comes out now

00:47:10.230 --> 00:47:13.730
looks like Family Guy. Yeah, I remember the first

00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:18.909
episode of Family Guy where they decided to go...

00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.900
computer -generated instead of, I don't know

00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:27.320
if it was fully hand -drawn or whatever, but

00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:31.300
they were able to do these big pan shots. It's

00:47:31.300 --> 00:47:35.619
the Clue ripoff episode. And then there were

00:47:35.619 --> 00:47:40.079
fewer, yeah. Yeah, and I just remember, I mean,

00:47:40.099 --> 00:47:44.739
this is cool, but this is just not what I was,

00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:50.099
what I have been, I don't know. condition to

00:47:50.099 --> 00:47:57.300
like. I think my problem with the new age version

00:47:57.300 --> 00:48:01.519
of animation in the Seth MacFarlane style or

00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.719
the Spongebob style or honestly anything that

00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:07.820
comes out these days is that it feels soulless.

00:48:08.539 --> 00:48:12.139
It feels like a content machine. If you think

00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:14.960
back to the 90s cartoons, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Rugrats,

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:18.110
Hey Arnold. All of that kind of stuff. All of

00:48:18.110 --> 00:48:21.469
these animation styles were so vastly different,

00:48:21.590 --> 00:48:23.010
even though they were probably made with the

00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:26.469
same process. But now it feels like it's the

00:48:26.469 --> 00:48:29.650
exact same thing done in 15 slightly different

00:48:29.650 --> 00:48:33.130
ways. It feels like there's not artistry behind

00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:36.670
it anymore. It's just a content machine. It all

00:48:36.670 --> 00:48:41.469
comes down to whose voices you like better. Yeah,

00:48:41.469 --> 00:48:43.329
I mean, and especially whenever they started

00:48:43.329 --> 00:48:45.489
doing all these crossover episodes with The Simpsons

00:48:45.489 --> 00:48:48.409
and Family Guy and all this other stuff. I will

00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:52.730
say that one, well, not even that, South Park

00:48:52.730 --> 00:48:55.769
stood out from the beginning because that was

00:48:55.769 --> 00:48:59.489
completely unique compared to anything that was

00:48:59.489 --> 00:49:03.650
on TV at the time. But even now, they try to

00:49:03.650 --> 00:49:08.210
chase the same style, but it's all digital. And

00:49:08.210 --> 00:49:12.289
so it kind of lost that soul. But then they chose

00:49:12.289 --> 00:49:15.010
to do that because they wanted to be able to

00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:17.969
churn out these episodes fast enough to where

00:49:17.969 --> 00:49:20.650
they could stay topical and stay relevant. And

00:49:20.650 --> 00:49:23.670
I think that they've done a very good job at

00:49:23.670 --> 00:49:27.969
that. Whereas episodes like The Simpsons or Family

00:49:27.969 --> 00:49:32.429
Guy, they have to write the episodes here. They

00:49:32.429 --> 00:49:37.090
have to give a storyboard, send it over to, I

00:49:37.090 --> 00:49:39.880
think it's Taiwan. And then it's all animated

00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.820
there and then it comes back. And the whole thing

00:49:41.820 --> 00:49:44.900
is like a six -month process. And so by the time

00:49:44.900 --> 00:49:48.420
it actually gets to air, it's such a dated episode

00:49:48.420 --> 00:49:52.039
or it's such a dated topic or the content is

00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.599
so dated that there's no way you could keep up

00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.159
with someone like The Simpsons. And that's because

00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.659
Trey Parker and Matt Stone have stuck to their

00:50:01.659 --> 00:50:04.679
guns about this is what this show is about and

00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:09.329
this is how it's going to stay. Yeah. I am also

00:50:09.329 --> 00:50:11.309
not a fan when it comes to South Park of the

00:50:11.309 --> 00:50:14.809
specials. Yeah. That kind of felt like it was

00:50:14.809 --> 00:50:17.789
them falling into the same trap that a lot of

00:50:17.789 --> 00:50:20.710
the animation did. Yeah. Which I also understand

00:50:20.710 --> 00:50:24.170
that when you're beholden to a streaming service,

00:50:24.230 --> 00:50:27.909
your freedom is, I'm sure, pretty limited. Yeah,

00:50:27.909 --> 00:50:33.150
I think that I've enjoyed most of the South Park

00:50:33.150 --> 00:50:37.369
specials. There's one. that I just did not like.

00:50:37.550 --> 00:50:40.989
And I think it might have been the COVID one

00:50:40.989 --> 00:50:45.230
or the Ozempic one. Yeah. I just didn't think

00:50:45.230 --> 00:50:47.570
that it was very good, and it felt like the story

00:50:47.570 --> 00:50:50.389
was completely pointless. It just didn't feel

00:50:50.389 --> 00:50:54.630
like a South Park property. Yeah. And especially

00:50:54.630 --> 00:50:57.230
when you find out that the show gets delayed

00:50:57.230 --> 00:51:00.289
because they're under contract for all these

00:51:00.289 --> 00:51:03.510
specials that they have to do. And it just...

00:51:03.900 --> 00:51:06.699
It kind of gets frustrating when you've been

00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:09.559
a fan for so long that their attention is being

00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.280
taken away from the thing that made them what

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.719
they are and everything is diminished in the

00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.199
process. Yeah, I think that's kind of the problem

00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.780
that I have with a lot of animation these days

00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:25.119
is that everyone has just gone so far about what

00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:28.739
made them great to begin with. Yeah. That we've

00:51:28.739 --> 00:51:33.789
just been so focused on getting things out. that

00:51:33.789 --> 00:51:38.690
it's lost all of its heart. Mm -hmm. But that's

00:51:38.690 --> 00:51:40.889
enough about our soapbox. We're not going to

00:51:40.889 --> 00:51:43.550
change anything. The world is still going to

00:51:43.550 --> 00:51:45.750
turn tomorrow and the day after that and the

00:51:45.750 --> 00:51:49.309
day after that and SpongeBob is still going to

00:51:49.309 --> 00:51:51.349
be the same. South Park's going to be the same.

00:51:52.909 --> 00:51:56.289
But you know what? We can still reminisce about

00:51:56.289 --> 00:51:58.590
what was. That could have been an opportunity

00:51:58.590 --> 00:52:03.139
for a SpongeBob quote. And the next day... And

00:52:03.139 --> 00:52:07.639
the next day. And the next day. So speaking of

00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:11.900
nostalgia, what are your top five? My top five,

00:52:11.980 --> 00:52:16.800
okay. Sleepy Time. Can I get a brief synopsis,

00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.480
please? So Sleepy Time is where SpongeBob ends

00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.199
up in everyone's dreams. That one is one of my

00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.679
favorites, especially because of librarian Gary.

00:52:26.980 --> 00:52:31.300
Fry Cook Games. That's a classic. That one's

00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:33.250
definitely one of my favorites. Pizza Delivery,

00:52:33.329 --> 00:52:35.650
partially because it is one of the originals

00:52:35.650 --> 00:52:38.969
and because it is one that I quote, every time

00:52:38.969 --> 00:52:42.809
there's a strong breeze. Anytime I have to walk

00:52:42.809 --> 00:52:44.969
against the wind, I think of the Pizza Delivery

00:52:44.969 --> 00:52:49.510
episode. Do you sing the song to yourself? Not

00:52:49.510 --> 00:52:53.710
always to myself, but yes. Texas had to be on

00:52:53.710 --> 00:52:57.570
the list. Of course. And Mermaid Man and Barnacle

00:52:57.570 --> 00:53:01.000
Boy 3. which is the episode where SpongeBob and

00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:02.739
Patrick have to watch over the marmalade and

00:53:02.739 --> 00:53:07.300
they get tricked into thawing Man Ray from his

00:53:07.300 --> 00:53:11.480
tartar sauce prison. And so they're trying to

00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:16.000
teach Man Ray how to be good. And they send him

00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.599
to the bank and get him. He's like trying to

00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.340
rob it and he ends up getting checks with little

00:53:20.340 --> 00:53:25.380
baby chicks on it. It's the best. My top five.

00:53:26.659 --> 00:53:31.980
One crab's trash. He was number one. The episode

00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:37.659
of Smitty Warburton -Jägerman -Jensen. So that's

00:53:37.659 --> 00:53:40.440
definitely number one for me. Okay. Number two,

00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:45.800
Krusty Krab training video. Yeah. Which contains

00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.179
one of our all -time favorite lines. Sounds like

00:53:49.179 --> 00:53:53.719
a lot of... Sounds like a lot of... Hoopla! I

00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.699
thought it was just the hoopla. Dum -da -da -dum.

00:54:09.279 --> 00:54:13.860
The best. Well, the second best. Yeah. Number

00:54:13.860 --> 00:54:17.920
three, Texas. I wish these first two didn't exist

00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:21.099
so that could be number one, but this is the

00:54:21.099 --> 00:54:24.659
world we live in. I don't make the rules. Number

00:54:24.659 --> 00:54:32.670
four. Sandy, SpongeBob, and the worm. What kind

00:54:32.670 --> 00:54:39.409
of worm? Well, he's big. He's pink. And he's

00:54:39.409 --> 00:54:43.230
hairy. The Alaskan bull worm. I forgot about

00:54:43.230 --> 00:54:47.289
the Alaskan bull worm episode. And when they're

00:54:47.289 --> 00:54:52.199
running from said Alaskan bull worm. Sandy asks

00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.579
SpongeBob to reach in his pockets to see if he

00:54:54.579 --> 00:54:58.099
has anything that can save them. And for whatever

00:54:58.099 --> 00:55:01.300
reason, he has a paper clip and some string.

00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.699
And he says, oh, this is perfect. And he fashions

00:55:07.699 --> 00:55:16.400
it into a necklace that has an S. He said, this

00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.699
will be perfect so they can identify our bodies.

00:55:21.630 --> 00:55:27.170
S for Spongebob or S for Sandy. And then Sandy,

00:55:27.289 --> 00:55:32.389
being the resourceful problem solver Texan that

00:55:32.389 --> 00:55:36.869
she is, takes it, fashions it into a lasso, and

00:55:36.869 --> 00:55:43.469
says S for save our skins. And you know what?

00:55:43.809 --> 00:55:47.550
Thanks to her Texan ingenuity, they survive.

00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.719
a run -in with an Alaskan bull worm and live

00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:55.480
to fight another day. Okay. And then in the process,

00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:00.440
they lead the Alaskan bull worm off a cliff that

00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.579
happens to be where they moved new Bikini Bottom

00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:05.800
to and crushed the entire city. But you know

00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.880
what? You know what? They survived. That's not

00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.559
her fault. It's not. It's not. They should have

00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:15.679
trusted Sandy and her Texan -ness to get them

00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.199
out of this situation. But they didn't. So it's

00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.780
kind of on them. It's kind of their own fault.

00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:28.760
And then number five is Idiot Box. Imagination.

00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.119
A classic. So two honorable mentions that I wanted

00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:40.619
to add in here was the Pretty Patty episode.

00:56:41.940 --> 00:56:45.539
And I don't remember the actual name of it, but

00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:50.179
it's... The Magic Conch Shell episode? That one's

00:56:50.179 --> 00:56:51.739
definitely one of my favorites. Yeah, where they

00:56:51.739 --> 00:56:56.820
get lost in the woods. Yeah? Yeah. Magic Conch

00:56:56.820 --> 00:57:01.260
Shell, can I have something to eat? The conch

00:57:01.260 --> 00:57:08.219
has spoken! Oh. If Squidward had just trusted

00:57:08.219 --> 00:57:09.840
in the conch, everything would have been fine.

00:57:11.579 --> 00:57:13.920
Maybe that was a show with a broader message.

00:57:14.300 --> 00:57:17.250
He has no faith. Was that the message? I think

00:57:17.250 --> 00:57:20.130
so, yeah. To have faith? Mm -hmm. George Michael

00:57:20.130 --> 00:57:25.150
preached it. You gotta have faith. The faith,

00:57:25.150 --> 00:57:29.010
the faith. Okay, so do you think that this is,

00:57:29.130 --> 00:57:31.449
this has a stronghold on the next generation

00:57:31.449 --> 00:57:34.849
too? Or did it die out with Gen Z? I think that

00:57:34.849 --> 00:57:37.710
it, I think it died out with Gen Z and I think

00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:45.639
that it is a, it's going to be like a, Not cool

00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:51.159
thing because your parents liked it. Okay. Like

00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:59.360
how I don't think that Wham is very cool. They

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.039
have some decent songs. I'm sorry, are you telling

00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:03.139
me that Wake Me Up Before You Go -Go is not a

00:58:03.139 --> 00:58:07.159
banger? I don't seek it out, I can tell you that

00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:14.159
much. Okay. But our mother, at least, loved Wham.

00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:18.739
Yeah. Loves lamb. And I just think that it's

00:58:18.739 --> 00:58:22.519
one of those things, like, this is so lame. And

00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.420
I think that's probably more based on the fact

00:58:25.420 --> 00:58:27.099
that it was something that our parents liked

00:58:27.099 --> 00:58:30.019
and we just want to be contrarians and we want

00:58:30.019 --> 00:58:31.719
to have our own identities and we want to be

00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:35.019
our own people, which is fine. And that's probably

00:58:35.019 --> 00:58:39.380
the reason that SpongeBob isn't in regular production

00:58:39.380 --> 00:58:46.070
now because of that turn. But, I mean, did we

00:58:46.070 --> 00:58:50.650
really need more 22 -episode seasons of SpongeBob?

00:58:50.809 --> 00:58:56.690
Probably not. They went so hard with the first

00:58:56.690 --> 00:58:58.349
couple of seasons that I think that's going to

00:58:58.349 --> 00:59:02.230
coast for as long as people in our generations

00:59:02.230 --> 00:59:06.690
are doing things on the internet. Yeah, because

00:59:06.690 --> 00:59:09.409
I'm never going to get tired of watching the

00:59:09.409 --> 00:59:12.739
first three or four seasons of SpongeBob. Bubble

00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:16.920
stand? Incredible episode. Yeah. And it just,

00:59:17.019 --> 00:59:20.980
there's a scene, there's an entire episode dedicated

00:59:20.980 --> 00:59:24.800
to SpongeBob bringing home a wild jellyfish and

00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.260
throwing a rave in his house and kicking him

00:59:28.260 --> 00:59:31.500
out. And that was just, it doesn't make any sense.

00:59:31.940 --> 00:59:36.440
But it didn't need to. We were little lambs.

00:59:36.460 --> 00:59:40.789
This was pre -9 -11. We didn't know. the hardships

00:59:40.789 --> 00:59:43.710
that the world could bring to us. Yeah. We just

00:59:43.710 --> 00:59:48.150
wanted to see our jellyfish throwing a rave,

00:59:48.150 --> 00:59:52.050
having a great time. And you know that if you

00:59:52.050 --> 00:59:54.929
were in an actual nightclub and a DJ throws on

00:59:54.929 --> 00:59:57.469
the jellyfish rave, people are going to lose

00:59:57.469 --> 01:00:02.010
their mind. Yes, still. I mean, the people that

01:00:02.010 --> 01:00:04.130
would lose their mind probably aren't going to

01:00:04.130 --> 01:00:07.730
clubs as much anymore. Probably not. But, I mean,

01:00:07.929 --> 01:00:14.070
you put it on at the grocery store, you're going

01:00:14.070 --> 01:00:17.650
to have some broken hips. Yeah. You're going

01:00:17.650 --> 01:00:20.030
to have a couple slipped discs. Next time I go

01:00:20.030 --> 01:00:22.110
to the grocery store with my AirPods on, I'm

01:00:22.110 --> 01:00:24.269
just going to play the jellyfish rave on repeat.

01:00:26.489 --> 01:00:30.449
Okay, so if there's not a pull for SpongeBob

01:00:30.449 --> 01:00:34.150
in the new generation, what? What do you think

01:00:34.150 --> 01:00:35.630
is going to have that kind of cultural significance

01:00:35.630 --> 01:00:37.329
and that staying power? Because I don't have

01:00:37.329 --> 01:00:42.230
kids regularly in my presence, so I don't have

01:00:42.230 --> 01:00:45.289
a concept of what impacts them on the day -to

01:00:45.289 --> 01:00:50.550
-day. I would think that it is something that

01:00:50.550 --> 01:00:56.469
we have no interest in. It's probably going to

01:00:56.469 --> 01:00:59.090
be something that's like a YouTube channel. Okay.

01:01:00.570 --> 01:01:03.260
Bluey. Bluey has some staying power, and Bluey

01:01:03.260 --> 01:01:09.960
has the same kind of grab to the kids as well

01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:13.079
as the adults that SpongeBob had, but it doesn't

01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:17.920
have the... I won't say it doesn't have, but

01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:23.079
it has much, much less innuendo and jokes that

01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.820
are strictly meant for the adults. Yeah. So I

01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:32.190
think that that is... Probably closest, but I

01:01:32.190 --> 01:01:35.070
mean, as far as SpongeBob goes, SpongeBob had

01:01:35.070 --> 01:01:39.070
the appeal of a much broader range than Bluey.

01:01:39.789 --> 01:01:43.650
Yeah. Bluey's a great show, but at the end of

01:01:43.650 --> 01:01:48.150
the day, it's meant for kindergarten, first grade,

01:01:48.230 --> 01:01:52.369
that demographic. Yeah, you mentioned whenever,

01:01:52.550 --> 01:01:56.889
I think it was like all the kids and us hanging

01:01:56.889 --> 01:01:59.820
out that... that you would watch it sometimes

01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:04.780
even without the kids. I do. I don't think I

01:02:04.780 --> 01:02:06.599
could get into a place where I want to watch

01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:09.619
Bluey by myself. Like if I were with kids, I'm

01:02:09.619 --> 01:02:12.719
sure I would enjoy it, but I've very much watched

01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:16.579
Spongebob as an adult just for funsies. I pass

01:02:16.579 --> 01:02:21.360
by videos on Bluey TikTok on their page. You're

01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:24.820
on Bluey TikTok? Uh -huh, I sure am. And there's

01:02:24.820 --> 01:02:28.800
a segment of an episode where... The girls are

01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:33.480
playing ping pong, but Bandit is the ball. So

01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:35.420
they're running back and forth with their paddle,

01:02:35.500 --> 01:02:38.059
and he's running between them. And it's just

01:02:38.059 --> 01:02:43.239
good, wholesome fun. And as a father, I would

01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:47.619
make that maybe like make the back and forth

01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:49.719
like three times, and I'd be winded, and then

01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:53.719
they would probably have to call somebody. So

01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:57.320
Bandit is the father that I aspire to be. And

01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:58.260
maybe that's why I watch it. That's a good aspiration.

01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.099
Yeah. I like Bandit from the episodes I've seen.

01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.980
Yeah. I mean, you should definitely check it

01:03:04.980 --> 01:03:08.179
out, Sans Kids, because then you can really dig

01:03:08.179 --> 01:03:10.860
into it. You can get to the meat of the message,

01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:17.579
you know? Really take in all the milieu. I guess.

01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.840
All right. So the last thing that I kind of wanted

01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.280
to touch on was back on the topic of Stephen

01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:30.150
Hillenburg. Okay. So I fell into a, I think a

01:03:30.150 --> 01:03:32.630
pretty decent -sized group of people that did

01:03:32.630 --> 01:03:36.469
not watch SpongeBob after Stephen Hillenburg

01:03:36.469 --> 01:03:41.630
died. And granted, some of that was the fact

01:03:41.630 --> 01:03:46.090
that I was kind of older or too old for regular

01:03:46.090 --> 01:03:49.789
watching, but I stopped watching it because after

01:03:49.789 --> 01:03:52.050
Stephen Hillenburg died, it came out that he

01:03:52.050 --> 01:03:57.050
was against the idea of a spinoff. and Nickelodeon

01:03:57.050 --> 01:04:00.489
essentially put out, I want to say it was at

01:04:00.489 --> 01:04:02.309
least Camp Coral, but maybe a different spinoff

01:04:02.309 --> 01:04:07.130
too, right after he died. The timing looked super,

01:04:07.170 --> 01:04:11.369
super suspicious that all of the sudden the guy

01:04:11.369 --> 01:04:14.710
who said, I don't want this is dead, and so they

01:04:14.710 --> 01:04:19.309
immediately do it. But what I didn't know until

01:04:19.309 --> 01:04:23.449
researching for this episode was that Stephen

01:04:23.449 --> 01:04:26.130
Hillenburg, That whole thing was taken out of

01:04:26.130 --> 01:04:31.409
context. It was a thing that he said back, I

01:04:31.409 --> 01:04:33.449
want to say it was like the early, early, early

01:04:33.449 --> 01:04:37.030
aughts, where he originally wanted the show to

01:04:37.030 --> 01:04:40.090
end after the SpongeBob movie, the one with Hasselhoff.

01:04:40.809 --> 01:04:43.210
And the reason that he wanted it to end there

01:04:43.210 --> 01:04:46.309
was because he had, he didn't want it to get

01:04:46.309 --> 01:04:49.050
watered down. He didn't want to dilute the story

01:04:49.050 --> 01:04:52.710
and turn it into this just like mindless cartoon.

01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:59.219
To which there is still merit to it having stopped

01:04:59.219 --> 01:05:01.679
there just because it has turned into a mindless

01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:06.079
cartoon. Definitely, yeah. But his thing was

01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.400
not, it was just like he couldn't see a spinoff.

01:05:09.539 --> 01:05:11.460
Not that he was against the idea, it was just

01:05:11.460 --> 01:05:13.039
not a thing that he had thought of because in

01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:17.760
his head it ended after the first movie. And

01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:22.900
so I... I was against the show and against Nick

01:05:22.900 --> 01:05:26.480
and everything after he died because that felt

01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:32.280
just really gross. You got QAnoned. Sure, I got

01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:36.659
QAnoned. But now I know better. And knowing is

01:05:36.659 --> 01:05:40.179
half the battle. Well, there you go. See? So,

01:05:40.300 --> 01:05:45.360
silver lining. Yeah. The viewership took a, from

01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.800
what I saw, a pretty heavy hit after... And I

01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:50.340
think a lot of that was that same conversation

01:05:50.340 --> 01:05:54.539
that he didn't want this to happen. And so a

01:05:54.539 --> 01:05:58.360
lot of people that were in the more social justice

01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:03.400
-y age were just upset and didn't want to contribute

01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:07.460
to something that felt skeezy. Well, I mean,

01:06:07.460 --> 01:06:09.840
in the entire time that he was alive, he was

01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:12.619
pretty hands -on, right? Yeah. Yeah, so it's

01:06:12.619 --> 01:06:15.179
not like a Seth MacFarlane situation where...

01:06:15.530 --> 01:06:17.530
He started doing other stuff, and so he just

01:06:17.530 --> 01:06:22.389
gave the keys to someone else. Yeah, so that

01:06:22.389 --> 01:06:30.150
makes sense. But yeah, I mean, all the spinoffs

01:06:30.150 --> 01:06:32.610
and stuff definitely reek of corporate greed

01:06:32.610 --> 01:06:35.110
and just trying to wring out as much as you can

01:06:35.110 --> 01:06:39.789
from it. But I don't know. I mean, every now

01:06:39.789 --> 01:06:43.059
and then you'll... You'll get a genuinely good

01:06:43.059 --> 01:06:45.480
episode that has memorable things happen, but

01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:51.360
I don't know a single person that has that kind

01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:54.300
of effect on newer stuff. If I can talk about

01:06:54.300 --> 01:06:56.019
SpongeBob to someone, it's going to be the old

01:06:56.019 --> 01:06:59.159
stuff. It's going to be somewhere around the

01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:01.320
original. It's definitely not past season five.

01:07:02.659 --> 01:07:05.780
I would argue that the kind of final nail in

01:07:05.780 --> 01:07:09.280
the coffin was the second movie. because I think

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.280
that was such a heavy departure from what they

01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.820
had done before. And this is my own personal

01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:16.960
bias because, again, I absolutely hate the way

01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.940
that they did it. But I think that that was their

01:07:19.940 --> 01:07:23.340
kind of turning point for the worse. What if

01:07:23.340 --> 01:07:27.579
they had done the movie in the way of the time

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or the episode where they go above water and

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it's just a sponge on a stick and a toy plastic

01:07:35.659 --> 01:07:38.449
crab? I would love that. They could have done

01:07:38.449 --> 01:07:41.429
the marionettes like they did with Potty the

01:07:41.429 --> 01:07:45.489
Parrot. Oh, man. It would have been creepy as

01:07:45.489 --> 01:07:48.750
hell, but it would have worked. So what is something

01:07:48.750 --> 01:07:53.630
that you can take away in your life from SpongeBob?

01:07:55.010 --> 01:08:00.929
Something that you were able to gain from all

01:08:00.929 --> 01:08:03.429
your many hours of consumption that have made

01:08:03.429 --> 01:08:06.780
you a better person. that have made me a better

01:08:06.780 --> 01:08:10.760
person. Better is relative. If it's better to

01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:13.820
you, if you think it's cool just kicking puppies

01:08:13.820 --> 01:08:17.020
when you pass by them, then I guess that's your

01:08:17.020 --> 01:08:18.880
prerogative. I'm not here to judge. I'm just

01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:22.579
here to extract the information. The good thing

01:08:22.579 --> 01:08:25.819
that I've gotten from SpongeBob is that because

01:08:25.819 --> 01:08:28.039
of the social environment that I was raised in,

01:08:28.100 --> 01:08:32.220
I think that the quotes, being able to quote

01:08:32.220 --> 01:08:35.920
something so regularly for just... mundane things

01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.659
that happen in my everyday life. When there's

01:08:37.659 --> 01:08:42.380
a stiff breeze, I think of the Krusty Krab pizza

01:08:42.380 --> 01:08:45.899
song. I think that it adds a little bit of fun

01:08:45.899 --> 01:08:49.500
to just nothing situations in your life. And

01:08:49.500 --> 01:08:51.840
I think that's the best thing about that show.

01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:55.560
And I think it kind of gives us a secret language.

01:08:55.979 --> 01:09:01.920
Yeah. It's a great connector. Yeah. I think taking

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.640
away something... from it for me would be it

01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:11.939
was it was a bridge between me and our dad yeah

01:09:11.939 --> 01:09:14.760
because we didn't really have that much when

01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.880
growing up but spongebob was always a connector

01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:20.979
that we did have so anytime it was on tv we could

01:09:20.979 --> 01:09:24.260
sit down and watch it and just uh have that time

01:09:24.260 --> 01:09:31.579
all right you got any final thoughts my uh my

01:09:31.579 --> 01:09:34.920
final thing for today Be the goofiest goober

01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:41.140
you can be. That is fantastic. And I don't think

01:09:41.140 --> 01:09:46.279
that can be topped. So, we'll see you next time.

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See y 'all later.