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Welcome to the show, people.

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Welcome to the show.

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Welcome to the show.

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Welcome to the show.

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Eat my shorts.

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So here is to conversation.

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Tango quality base here.

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Tango, I'm playing this.

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Welcome to the Cash Exchange.

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What up?

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Alright, so to preface this, the through line that I have today is a little bit reachy.

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I'm ready.

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So what do Grandpa Simpson monologues, the show Ancient Apocalypse, and Asking a Kid What They Did Today have in common?

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There are stories that people feel compelled to exaggerate on.

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Yep.

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And that people that care about them care way too much about them.

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And the people listening don't care at all, want it over with.

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I think there are a lot of people that care about, okay maybe not Grandpa Simpson's monologues, but the other two.

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Yeah.

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Got the thing on Netflix?

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Yes.

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One of them, I don't know, it's on us streaming service.

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Where he talks about the world ended and then it rebirthed.

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Sort of, yeah.

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With Graham Hancock?

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Yes.

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Yeah, I watched like the first episode, it was about some step pyramids or something.

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The ones out in like Thailand?

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Yeah, something like that.

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I've been on the receiving end of, hey what'd you do today?

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And it just being a litany of unnecessary details and just rambling on and on and on.

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It's kind of like, I was at a, I did my first Black Friday sit outside the store of, and probably...

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Camp out?

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Yeah, I guess camp out.

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And probably about 16, 17, 16, 15 years, something like that.

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Oh wow, okay.

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And I was outside of a Lowe's because you got a...

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What was your choice?

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You got a free bucket.

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The first 25 people got a free bucket full of swag.

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Okay.

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Was it worth it?

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Yeah, it was a free bucket of stuff.

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I mean, there's screwdrivers, a coupon.

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Yeah.

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Anyways, so I get there at 3 o'clock.

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There's one other car in the parking lot, just me and this dude.

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We're just sitting there, pretty much just playing chicken.

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And then another car pulls in and then all of a sudden the guy in the first car gets out and walks up to the store and goes and sets up his little chair and sleeping bag.

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And yeah, he gets all settled in.

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And then I'm just sitting there, doom scrolling on my phone.

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And I look over at him and all of a sudden he's on the ground.

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And it's like low 30s outside on concrete, laying on the ground and just looking like he's about to head to bed.

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And so I walk up with my chair and I go and set it down.

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He says, hey man, how's it going?

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And I'm like, you know, not bad.

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And instead of this man saying, well, maybe he said, oh, you know, not too bad or something along those lines.

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He was like, bad? What's going on? What happened?

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Complete stranger.

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I mean, on one hand, like good for him.

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Good for him for having compassion for this guy that he doesn't know.

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But also a little strange, a little strange that you would think that some stranger would walk up to you and say, oh man, thank God you asked how I'm doing because it is not good.

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To be fair, if I'm a complete stranger and I ask you how you're doing and you give me a legitimate response, I want to know.

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Yeah. I think things have to be going horribly wrong for that person, for them to feel the need to offload it onto a stranger.

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Absolutely. And generally speaking, I want to know either you're going to get something out of it and it's going to you had some kind of catastrophe and that's why you said you're doing bad.

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In which case I can help.

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Maybe. Can you help?

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OK, the complete stranger walks up to you and says, yeah, I'm not doing too hot.

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I found out I have cancer today. Stage four.

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So that's my day. How's your day going?

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That's what you are willing to take on.

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Yeah, I think that's a load of bull poopy.

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I don't think you want that. I'm a people pleaser.

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I would do it whether or not it was bad for me.

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I don't think you want that.

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OK, I completely steamrolled your intro.

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Grandpa Simpson, Ancient Apocalypse, asking kids what they did today.

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You were right that went a little further than I thought it would, but you were right.

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So they're full of long drawn out stories with a lot of creative liberties.

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Which brings us to our topic for today, biopics.

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I do want to say that the original take for this episode did get deleted,

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but there has been a lively debate as to whether it is biopic or biopic.

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I'm still on the fence.

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I think we settled on biopic.

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We did, but I think biopic also just sounds better.

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I'm not going to use it. Probably, but...

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See, our conundrum this first go around was that if you refer to it as a biopic,

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you're referring to it as a biographical picture.

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And we think that anyone that refers to a movie as a film or a picture is a douche.

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Sure, but I don't underst...

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Shhh, shhh, shhh.

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Sure, but I don't understand how biopic doesn't do that,

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because it's still pick. Not as aggressive, but it's still pick.

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Because it just rolls off the tongue in one swoop.

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It's not bio-pick.

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It seems like bio-pick needs to be hyphenated.

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There needs to be an intentional space.

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It's biopic.

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You need to hold space for...

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I'm throwing that one in there. It's biopic.

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Okay.

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All kinds of random stressing.

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I mean, yeah, that's fine.

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I mean, whatever gets you there.

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I think I have a habit of hearing biopic, biopic, biopic,

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and thinking it's about a musician.

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It's about someone deciding that the coffers are running a little thin,

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so we need to shove out another product to remind the people that this person existed.

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If you get a movie out there, and it gets any kind of buzz whatsoever,

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then you're going to get bumps and all other aspects of being able to capitalize on that person.

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Like the streams, which I know are pennies and no one buys music anymore.

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So I think that these, especially the musical ones, are a lot more profitable back then than they are now.

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But then there's all the merchandise, all the other stuff.

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It just has a lot of tendrils that make it very enticing for someone who really just has to say to a production company,

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hey, make this movie, we'll give you permission, and give us that sweet, sweet cheddar.

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So this was probably a, I don't know if it was a good or a bad episode for me to take the lead on,

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because I realized somewhere in my research that I hate biopics.

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I am adamantly opposed to them.

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And there are a couple of good ones that are probably rewatchable,

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not from a this is this person's life perspective, but just in a fun movie kind of way.

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I cannot stand biopics because they always feel like a just gross cash grab in the same way that prequels, sequels, and reboots do.

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That like, especially for like the new Amy Winehouse movie that they just put out, Back to Black.

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First of all, there's too many of them at this point.

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We know as much of the story as there could possibly be since she has been dead for some time now.

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She's part of the 27 Club.

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Yeah. And it's just so sleazy that they will not just let her die.

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Her voice was incredible. She will still have a legacy one way or the other.

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But you don't need to keep rehashing the story and make it about this same tabloid nonsense that she dealt with in her actual life.

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Like this is not serving to do anything beneficial to her or her legacy.

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And I think a lot of, especially the musician ones, a lot of these biopics are just a little nauseating, even if the product that it comes out to be is good.

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Yeah. I think that is definitely because like I said before, the biopic that is based on a musician,

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like there's so many other areas that that affects and other ways to make money off of it.

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So those just from a wanting to make money standpoint, I understand.

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But like ones like there was there's been like three Steve Jobs, biopics, and the dude is a major asshole.

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Yeah, he started Apple and then got ousted and then got brought back.

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But they want to tout him as like this gigantic visionary that just did all these things and the reason that we have computers in our pockets now.

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But that's just not true. And I don't remember which one there's because there's Kutcher, there's Fassbender, and then there's one more.

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I think it's a dude from 21. I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's that dude.

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I'm pretty sure he's the main dude and the third one that I'm thinking of whenever we were looking at.

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I was looking at the the biopics that were not music.

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I came into this weird kind of like gray area and I don't know that I know what the parameters of a biopic are.

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Because like I was talking I was talking to Nate about the American Sniper biopic. Pretty I feel like that one's pretty cut and dry.

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But we were talking about like if it's does it have to be like the person's whole life for it to be a biopic?

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Or could it be like the social network where it's about Zuckerberg and about the founding of Facebook?

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But it's just kind of this like snapshot kind of of his life. It's not not biographical.

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And very skewed. It's just very narrow. All of these are.

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Yeah. Depending on what kind of legacy you're trying to paint for any of these people.

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That's something we talked about in the last one was to be mindful of watching these things

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and knowing that documentaries, biographies, biopics, all this stuff has an agenda.

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All this stuff is made to favor the people that are going to make it profitable.

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Yeah. And so that's one of the reasons you get these movies.

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These Steve Jobs movies that really glaze over what a terrible father and just kind of nasty human being he was.

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One of the grossest, I think, misrepresentations of a person in a biopic, which again, a lot of gray area.

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I'm not 100 percent sure if this would be considered a biopic. The Greatest Showman.

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Hey, that's what I have on here. P.T. Barnum was a monster.

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And an Ugo. Look nothing like Hugh Jackman. OK, but everyone's a big bald nose.

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Everyone is an Ugo to Hugh Jackman.

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I think we're pretty people. We're not Hugh Jackman pretty people.

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I would take Ryan Gosling over the gauze man over Hugh Jackman. Sure.

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Definitely no Glenn Powell. I'm just saying you can't you can't use that as your bar.

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Was was we're Gosling and Powell on the last go of this?

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Or was it? I don't think it was on this one.

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So I'm just I'm just name dropping when Powell and Ryan Gosling for no reason with no context is fair.

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They're they're very beautiful men. And I can say that and have absolutely no no questions about my sexuality because of it.

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I cannot decide if I think that Glenn Powell is attractive.

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I've seen him in a number of things now, and I can never decide if I think he's attractive.

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The capybara thing. I think it's a deal breaker. He was definitely a weird looking kid. Sure.

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He was in Spy Kids. I'm sorry. He was in Spy Kids. You know he was in the Spy Kids 3D.

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What? Yeah. Man, who wasn't in that movie?

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Which was also filmed at the Six Flags right up the street. Oh, did not know that either.

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I need to rewatch Spy Kids 3. No, you don't. You really don't. No, I absolutely do.

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You should watch Sharkboy and Lava Girl. Do you love Sharkboy and Lava Girl?

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And look at the cutting edge CGI with George Lopez.

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Was that Sharkboy and Lava Girl? I think so. Or was that?

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Oh, you're right. Yeah. He was the teacher. Was he also in Spy Kids?

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I don't think so. That was...

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I checked it. Stallone was the bad guy. Yeah, you're right.

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Which again, crazy pull. Well, it's because of Robert Rodriguez.

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Robert Rodriguez from Dusk of Dawn.

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Grindhouse. Good friends with Tarantino.

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Okay. So I think the Tarantino connection is probably what got him the...

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Is Stallone a Tarantino guy?

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I mean, I think anyone that thinks they can get close to Tarantino is going to take that opportunity.

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Sure, yeah. How do you not know?

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I'm not understanding the six degrees of separation here.

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Yeah, Spy Kids from Dusk of Dawn. Machete.

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El Mariachi.

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Sin City. Sin City 2? Sure.

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No? Okay. Well, I mean, he's in with...

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He's Texas. Texas born. Yeah.

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Yeah, does a lot of Mexican American movies.

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A lot of Antonio Banderas. Danny Trejo.

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Okay. Those kind of people.

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It's crazy that this man got at Rodriguez on Instagram.

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I'm surprised you've never heard of him.

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I mean, I hadn't seen any of the things that he's been...

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Oh, they have a production company together.

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No, he's very respected. Hey, UT, 1991.

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Ocom Horne's.

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And Yahuzaal.

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I don't remember where we were at before that little segue.

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Oh, P.T. Barnum. P.T. Barnum, yeah.

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He was a monster.

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He was, yeah. And they definitely...

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They just put this sunshiny vignette over the whole story.

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But no, P.T. Barnum.

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Ugo. Very...

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Honestly, I don't even know a whole bunch about him

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besides that he was a terrible person.

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Oh, what was her name? The Black Lady.

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The 161-year-old. He theoretically...

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Yeah, the slave.

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Which was an insane thing that I read in the research for this episode.

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Joyce Heath.

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She wasn't actually a slave, was she?

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No, she... I think it was a kind of gray area.

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So he was still able to buy her somehow.

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I don't remember the logistics behind it, but it was horrifying.

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Oh. Yeah, and then after she died, he charged people to see her autopsy.

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Yeah, and I'm sorry, Hugh. Where was that part in the movie?

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Hugh Jackman is wrong for that.

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Why'd you flinch saying that?

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Because I was going to say Hugh Jackman can do no wrong,

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but this was a weird choice.

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Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah?

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Why don't you ask the divorce courts in Down Under?

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Yeah.

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I think that they would probably think that Mr. Hugh can do a lot wrong.

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She was a beard. No one can convince me otherwise.

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So now he's free to be with Ryan?

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Yeah. I would support Blake also being a beard.

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She annoys the hell out of me.

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Oh, me too. Me too.

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Speaking of Ryan, okay, so this is from our last recording,

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but you are a Mint Mobile customer.

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I am.

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And every year you get some sort of a gift from Mr. Reynolds.

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Yes.

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Have you ever gotten a sample of the garbage makeup that Blake Lively peddles,

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especially when she is doing interviews for a movie about domestic violence?

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I could go on for quite some time about how dumb everything around it ends with us is.

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Read the book. Have not yet watched the movie.

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Probably will at some point.

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But does she do makeup?

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I thought it was just a hair care thing.

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It might be hair care.

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So Blake Brown Beauty, that's her like target hair care line.

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And the long story short version of the stuff that annoys me with her

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and all of the it ends with us stuff is that everyone in the promotional videos

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for Blake Brown Beauty looks so much worse coming out of the video than going in.

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It's insane.

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Like you can tell her entire brand is just, hey, I'm Blake Lively.

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So you should buy this because all of the pictures

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and stuff that they put out where it's Blake Lively and her hair,

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it looks so frizzy and damaged.

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Like that's not what a hair ad should look like.

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You're buying it because it's Blake Lively and not because it is any kind of quality.

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And you're buying it because it's Blake Lively because she's married to Ryan Reynolds?

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Yes. Because I don't think that she would really have much going on other than that.

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I think she's an epo baby.

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That would make sense.

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I think like I think that's where she got her start was she was an epo baby.

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Yeah, because that's going to be its own whole episode.

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But I can definitely she definitely has that she definitely has that vibe about her that

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she didn't have to work to where she got.

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Not a it would be a really long segue, but the the difference between the way

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that it ends with us was promoted before it came out versus like

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Woman of the Hour with Anna Kendrick is so stark and it's so impressive what Anna Kendrick did.

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Are you have you been following any of the drama on either side?

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I know what the story is. Like I know about Rodney Alcala.

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Yeah. Well, so Anna Kendrick directed the start in Woman of the Hour.

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And she said going into it that she didn't want it to be like her profiting off of this gross thing that happened.

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And so all of her money, all of the money that she would have made for the movie went to I think it's rain or something.

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It's a it's an acronym that I don't remember the name of.

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Yes, she donated her pay to rain, which is the Rape Abuse and Incest National Network.

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Whereas Blake Lively used the entire press tour to say, wear your florals to the movie.

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Yeah, that's and it was just this like sunshiney thing that they she didn't even touch on the fact that it was a very serious topic.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then whenever whenever she got pressed,

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she would act offended that you would dare ask her about DV and what this would mean for women who have survived it.

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And it also didn't help that that other that other interview came out with her and Parker Posey.

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Yeah. I mean, she's always given off the biggest mean girl energy. Yes.

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But the yeah, no, it was so ridiculous when they asked her what she would say to like a domestic violence victim.

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And she was like, oh, do you want me to just like give them my phone number, take them home with me?

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Like, what do you want from me? That's psycho behavior.

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We're not suggesting you become a therapist.

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But like, I feel like there's a little responsibility that comes with making money off of this movie of I mean, especially off of with that theme.

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Yeah. Yeah. No, it was just gross throughout the whole thing.

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And then she used it as a way to just like promote Blake Brown Beauty, which, again, not the point of any of that.

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And you know what that is? What that is wrong.

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I'm so excited we got to use that little sound bite circling all the way back in my in during my course of research.

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This is something that I'm I'm sure a lot of people who have done any kind of spend any time on YouTube watching like list videos or or anything like that has run across what is generally touted as the earliest biopic biopic biopic.

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And that is pertaining to Joan of Arc, a French silent film from the year 1900, a full 39 years, 30, 30, 39 years before the Wizard of Oz.

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Which have you seen that yet? Wicked? No.

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I'm going to wait until it's out of theaters. I don't want to be in a theater that involves singing.

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Well, it's it's cute when it's your niece or nephew doing it.

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No, it's not. Oh, I love them. But no, thank you.

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Oh, okay.

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Anyways, Joan of Arc 1900 started this whole whole thing before there was even sound.

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We were making movies about people.

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How accurate do you think that one was?

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I couldn't possibly imagine all of the detail that had all the practical effects and stuff because they burned her at the stake, didn't they?

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They sure did. Hey, there was also one with Mila Jovovich and this this girl, this 90s it girl, Lele Sobransky.

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I have no idea who that is.

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That's because she only lived for 11 months of the 90s, but she was everywhere. What happened to her? Joan of Arc or Lele?

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Lele. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure she's off living her best life somewhere.

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Let's see. Oh, there's also one in 2019. And then there's that's oh, it's a musical slash war movie.

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Two hours and 18 minutes. So it was Les Mis before Les Mis was cool.

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After Les Mis. I didn't see what the year on that was.

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Was what? Was what before Les Mis?

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The musical war movie of Joan of Arc.

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Oh, 2019. So that would have been way after Les Mis.

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This is 1928.

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Oh, man. I want the one from 1900. Man.

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I like the crepe paper flames.

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George Malay's was busy director, writer, producer and starred in it.

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Oh, it's 10 minutes. Yeah.

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Do you know how long that shit took? Language. Silent.

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I thought you were calling me for saying shit.

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Language. Silence.

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So, yeah, I mean, if you can find this on on YouTube or something, I'm sure it's there.

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Give it a watch. It's only 10 minutes of your life.

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That's that's the one that kicked off all this chicanery.

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Joan of Arc 1900 is the reason that we got Walk Hard.

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Can you imagine that?

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A Dewey Cox story.

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A Dewey Cox story.

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Which brings me into my next my next part of this conversation is parody biopic.

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I love them more than.

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Than the actual ones. Yes.

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To be fair, I'm a big fan of John C. Reilly and Andy Samberg.

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So Popstar Never Stop Never Stopping is high on the list.

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I think Weird, the Al Yankovic story surprised me.

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I thought it was going to be bad, just like unwatchably bad, but it was actually it was pretty good.

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It was fun. I wouldn't rewatch it.

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I probably wouldn't either. But I mean, no, I take that back.

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I would rewatch it. It's just it's a nonsense movie that you can just put on while you're doing something else.

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Yeah. Well, I would also have to get one of those like ridiculous one off streaming services.

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Tubi. Tubi.

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Roku. Roku. Yeah.

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Roku movie. Yeah.

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Stop with the streaming services, people.

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Just bow down to Netflix, Disney Plus, Max and just stop it.

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I was having a conversation with a coworker the other day about Gary Busey.

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And Gary Busey just put out a show, not just put out.

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It was during COVID, but I just found out that he had a show called Pet Judge on Amazon Prime and also Pluto.

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But you have to pay for it on Amazon Prime.

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So I just downloaded Pluto and now I have another streaming service.

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At least this one's free. But it's really good.

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It's as good as a Gary Busey show can be.

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It's so funny because I think everyone involved knows what's happening and is an actor.

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But I don't think Gary Busey knows that this is just nonsense.

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So like the the first episode is this couple deciding what's going to happen to their their dead cat.

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The husband wants to have a Viking funeral in his community's pond.

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Very honorable. Yeah. Yeah, naturally.

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And the the wife wants to put her put the cat in their family's pet mausoleum.

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And so they're having this like conversation with a super straight face, Gary Busey,

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about what is going to happen to their cat, Mousy Tongue.

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Mousy Tongue? Mousy Tongue. Huh. Which is a weird, weird pun.

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Mousy Tongue is a real weird choice. Yeah, definitely recommend it.

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I don't recommend getting Pluto. But if you already have it, watch it. Pet Judge. Interesting.

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Honestly boggles my mind that Walk Hard and Pop Star never stop, never stopping, I guess.

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So we would have to we would have to do the parentheses on Walk Hard, too, if we're going to.

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Dewey Cox story. So Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story and Pop Star Never Stop, Never Stopping

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have no right having such catchy songs. Sure. Yeah.

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Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story has Walk Hard.

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Let's duet in ways that make us feel good.

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Take My Hand, where it's a song about holding hands and everyone's losing their minds.

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It's time to rewatch Walk Hard. You've got to love your Negro man.

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That was in his Delta Blues era.

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Walk Hard. Yeah, I mean, there's Guilty as Charge. That's another good one.

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There's just a bunch of really well-written, catchy songs in this movie.

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Like that were made as a joke, but they're good.

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And then the same thing, same thing with Pop Star.

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It's got a Mona Lisa, I'm So Humble. That's like one of my all time favorite, like super catchy songs.

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Like if I hear it, it gets stuck in my head for like two or three days.

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Equal Rites, where he's making fun of Macklemore.

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I don't know if I remember that one.

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Yeah, it's the whole time he's singing about how he just wants the gays to have everything that straight people have.

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And he wants marriage equality and all this stuff, but then he's also saying, not gay.

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He's talking about all the super manly stuff that he likes to reassure the audience that he's not gay.

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Turn Up the Beef, the Ben Laden song.

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That one gets stuck in my head fairly often.

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There's a full album of this. Pop Star has 28 songs. Walk Hard has...

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I like that Weird Al's eBay was your most recent.

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Yeah, I mean, kids are obsessed with it.

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I'm glad I got them on the Weird Al train, but sometimes that's a lot of Weird Al.

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We listened to a lot of it the other day.

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30. I guess for a soundtrack, for a movie soundtrack, isn't bad.

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But again, these are songs that were specifically written for this movie.

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And it's just two great movies. If you haven't seen them, check them out.

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On the sort of same subgenre of biopics, would you consider The Wolf of Wall Street an actual biopic?

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It's basically just a comedy.

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There's some aspect of the actual life of Jordan Belfort, but would you consider that a biopic?

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Well, and Jordan Belfort is an unreliable narrator.

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So I think that... Was he a producer on the movie?

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I think so.

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So I think that as far as things being heavily, heavily fictionalized and exaggerated,

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I think you can still consider it a biopic just because it is loosely based on the life of someone.

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But I think that you would have to go into it with the understanding that this dude is one of those,

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hey bro, watch this kind of guys. And so that's going to be a heavy influence in the way that the movie is portraying him,

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especially if he has something to do with it, especially if he is a part of the actual production of the movie.

404
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I think the only exceptions that I really have to not liking biopics is the ones where the actual artist has a kind of creative hand in the thing,

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not necessarily in the Jordan Belfort being able to sway the narrative the way that he did,

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but in like Rocketman, the movie about Elton John, or the ones that are about to come out, I think, the one with Robbie Williams with the apes.

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Uh-huh. Which that one and...

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And Pharrell's piece by piece.

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Yeah. Those are two I want to talk about later.

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I love those because it feels like it's an extension of the actual person and not just a gross cash grab.

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I think the creative direction that you get to have whenever you're in control and not just trying to put forth this very specific narrative is...

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I think that's cool. I think it's worth a watch at least once.

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Yeah. I think that we've gotten very jaded to, especially the musical biopics, and now we have to dress them all up for the same result.

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It's like if you didn't know, Robbie Williams is huge in the UK, and he has a movie coming out about his life

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that the entire time he is portrayed as a chimp, a CGI chimp, but everyone else around him is a human.

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So it's like to... I don't know. I guess it's just to exemplify that he's different than everybody else.

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So I was actually looking into specifically Better Man, which is the Robbie Williams biopic, and the idea for having a chimp be the protagonist

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was because he has a song called Monkey and Me that was supposed to represent his cocaine addiction and the hard road to recovery, essentially.

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And so it became just kind of synonymous with the way that he saw himself.

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And the monkey?

421
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Yeah.

422
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He's a chimp?

423
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Sure.

424
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Isn't he a chimp in the movie?

425
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I don't know.

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What's the difference?

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Monkeys have tails.

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Isn't there a tail in the movie?

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I don't think.

430
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Maybe he was docked.

431
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I don't know, man.

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That wasn't the...

433
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I do like that though, that there's a reason for it.

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So that makes it a little better.

435
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But still at the same time, it's just, I don't know, it feels like it's needlessly dressed up.

436
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That and Pharrell Williams having to tell his story through Legos.

437
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Like if your story isn't compelling enough to tell on its own, then I don't think dressing it up in Legos is going to make it any better.

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And throwing in 50,000 cameos.

439
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There are a bunch of cameos in it?

440
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Yeah.

441
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,160
I think with Pharrell's, it was a little bit different because he was...

442
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:45,160
It sounded like his goal was to get this kind of broader audience because his music is mostly for kids.

443
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,160
From everything at least I know about Pharrell.

444
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:54,160
It's like happy and Despicable Me soundtrack kind of vibes, even if it's not the song Happy.

445
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,160
And so...

446
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Blurred lines?

447
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Still for a younger crowd.

448
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Probably shouldn't have been, but...

449
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Even with all the boobies?

450
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,160
And the problematic...

451
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,160
All the Radekowskis?

452
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Swinging around in the videos?

453
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
I don't know.

454
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Rada... Rada... Rada... Rada...

455
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Radekowski?

456
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,160
I think it's Radekowski.

457
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Rada Radekowski?

458
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,160
I don't know.

459
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:33,160
But I think what his thing was, was that he wanted to try to appeal to a broader audience by making it something that was more approachable than your typical biopic.

460
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:39,160
So he wanted to make it fun so that kids could watch it and be interested in what they typically wouldn't be so a biopic.

461
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160
And that the adults would be interested in watching it.

462
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Okay, yeah, I guess that makes sense.

463
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,160
Whatever.

464
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,160
Still, I don't think that it's...

465
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Yeah, if you need to dress it up, it's all that great.

466
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,160
But...

467
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,160
Maybe I'm wrong.

468
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,160
We haven't seen him.

469
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,160
I'll check both of them out.

470
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Like, I like...

471
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160
For real, Williams.

472
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Brad Paisley and Robbie Williams...

473
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,160
I just realized they're both Williams.

474
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,160
Brad Paisley and Robbie Williams...

475
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Did a song over the closing credits in Cars 2.

476
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Collision of Worlds?

477
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Yes.

478
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,160
I loved that song.

479
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:21,160
And so that's the only...

480
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,160
That is the only thing I know about Robbie Williams.

481
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Other than he's huge in the UK.

482
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Okay, so moving forward.

483
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:35,160
What biopic would you like to see?

484
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Okay, so this is something we've discussed already.

485
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,160
And to my knowledge, it hasn't been attempted.

486
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,160
Some might say that's probably for the best.

487
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:54,160
But I would love to see a Michael Jackson biopic.

488
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Yeah.

489
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Just for the sheer curiosity of whether they would go with a black actor

490
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,160
or a white actor or a black actor in the beginning

491
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160
and then put him in white face.

492
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Because you know they can't...

493
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:23,160
You know they can't do a white actor in black face for the beginning and then...

494
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,160
If it's a kid, it's not as problematic, right?

495
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Is it more problematic?

496
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,160
I don't think...

497
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,160
Can you imagine?

498
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Can you imagine some kid getting the breakout role of his lifetime

499
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,160
just he can say, mama, mama, I finally made it.

500
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,160
I made it.

501
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,160
I'm in the big times, mama.

502
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:49,160
And then 10 years down the road, he's working as an accountant somewhere

503
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:57,160
and then he gets ganned because he did kid black face in a Michael Jackson biopic.

504
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,160
God.

505
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:04,160
I mean, I think there's a lot of reasons we won't see a Michael Jackson biopic.

506
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Casting choices.

507
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,160
And that would be a tough one.

508
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Honestly, I would applaud whoever had the balls to take that on.

509
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Yeah.

510
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,160
Like no matter which way it went, there's no way it's not going to be an absolute train wreck.

511
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,160
What if halfway through it switches to be Miranda Cosgrove?

512
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,160
That is my pick for the Michael Jackson biopic.

513
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,160
So you think it will be like a conceptual thing,

514
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,160
kind of like the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, you know that is?

515
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Yes.

516
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,160
It's the final movie that Heath Ledger was doing when he died.

517
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,160
And so he died halfway through production and Jude Law, Johnny Depp,

518
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:51,160
and one more person stepped in to his role to help finish the movie.

519
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,160
So what if we just…

520
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Colin Farrell.

521
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,160
There we go.

522
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,160
What if we just doctor-imaginariumed it?

523
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Or secretly we're all Michael Jackson.

524
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,160
These very obviously different people that would like…

525
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:10,160
You had a little, I don't know, black child actor right now.

526
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Caleb McLaughlin, Kid from Stranger Things?

527
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,160
I don't know very many kid actors.

528
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,160
I mean he's…

529
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Oh.

530
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,160
What if I said, what about some white kid actors?

531
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,160
I bet you could name those off until the cows come home.

532
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,160
I can name the kids that are in Stranger Things and that is the extent of them.

533
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Wow.

534
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,160
And they're all like 22 now.

535
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,160
One of them, Eleven's married now.

536
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,160
The Drake?

537
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,160
No.

538
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160
I think she got too old.

539
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Hey, speaking of Michael Jackson.

540
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,160
Baby Bon Jovi.

541
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Oh, that's right.

542
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaking of Michael Jackson.

543
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Yeah, because Millie Bobby Brown was too old for Drake.

544
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,160
Okay, so what if you just did that?

545
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,160
What if you just had a little black kid actor and then you moved

546
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,160
and just maybe, I don't know, you just run the whole spectrum.

547
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,160
Maybe after black you go to Middle Eastern.

548
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Maybe after Middle Eastern you go Eastern Asian.

549
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,160
And then after Eastern Asian you just go straight white.

550
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,160
There's a whole Michael Jackson video about this concept, black or white.

551
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,160
The whole music video is the person morphing into a different, like, different genders, different races, different…

552
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,160
Like, music video?

553
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,160
Yeah.

554
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Of his?

555
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,160
Yeah.

556
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,160
I think so.

557
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Like, it don't matter if you're black or white, that one?

558
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Yeah.

559
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Isn't that what that one is?

560
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Am I thinking of a different movie or a different music video?

561
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,160
I forgot about the Latinos.

562
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,160
Sorry, guys.

563
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,160
Okay, so you'd have to go black, then Middle Eastern.

564
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Please don't figure out the spectrum here.

565
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,160
And then Latino, Latin, Latin, no, I don't like that.

566
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Latino.

567
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,160
And then from Latino you go Eastern Asian.

568
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,160
And then from Eastern Asian you go to straight up Wonder Bread.

569
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,160
I didn't know Macaulay Culkin was in the music video for this song.

570
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,160
So, I mean, I've got this rainbow, right? Correct?

571
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Sure.

572
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Black, Middle Eastern, Latino, Eastern Asian, honky?

573
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Yes.

574
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Cracker? What should I call him? Ghost.

575
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Oh, yeah, I've seen this.

576
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,160
That would be the whole movie.

577
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,160
That's what I'm pitching.

578
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,160
That's a hard transition.

579
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,160
That's what I think the whole movie should be.

580
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,160
It's just...

581
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Just people morphing.

582
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:36,160
There was a point in the middle of this last transition where that person looked like Obama.

583
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Now, we'll sit here.

584
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,160
And on that note, I think that's all I got for this episode.

585
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:50,160
So, we're just going to do some transition into every ethnicity throughout the entire movie.

586
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Will they have to wear a sign and say, hey, this is Michael?

587
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,160
No. One glove.

588
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,160
Oh, yeah. Even as a child?

589
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,160
Yes.

590
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,160
Even as an infant?

591
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,160
He he he.

592
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:11,160
You can keep him one person as a kid and then he goes through the...

593
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,160
All of the transition and trying to...

594
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,160
Going to the rainbow?

595
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Yeah. And trying to figure out who he is.

596
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,160
That was like his whole problem for all of his life was the Peter Pan syndrome.

597
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,160
This idea is copyrighted by us.

598
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:28,160
And as soon as this goes live, you've been notified that this is our idea.

599
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,160
Don't steal it.

600
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,160
If you do, you have to license it from us for a pretty hefty, pretty hefty licensing fee.

601
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Yeah.

602
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,160
So don't do it. We'll sue.

603
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160
We'll sue you. We got nothing to lose.

604
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,160
And on that note...

605
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,160
And on that note, we're here until the precedent of times come back.

606
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:57,160
And remember, treat others as if one day someone's going to make a movie about you

607
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:03,160
and they're able to faithfully adapt your life to film

608
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,160
and not have to cut out all the times you were a raging asshole.

609
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Alright. See ya.

610
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.

611
00:43:39,160 --> 00:44:06,160
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.