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Alright, so to kick this off, what do Jeanette McCurdy, Ruby Frankie, and the Menendez Brothers have in common?
They're just so misunderstood.
I mean, I feel like I could go off on a tangent on why that's wrong, but...
Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, we got nothing but time here.
Really? Yeah.
So we just finished Monsters, the Menendez Brothers season.
And, I mean, that's straight up murder.
And also, I don't know that any of the, I don't doubt that terrible things happen to them.
But I also don't know how much of that is just them lying.
I don't know. It's weird when you base a decent amount of your knowledge of the story off of something that's at least a little bit dramatized.
Also, for the record, did not need to be eight episodes.
No? That was way too long.
I didn't watch it.
It could easily have been like three.
Just like I gave the OJ one, like two and a half episodes.
I was like, I know what happens.
Yeah.
So I'm good.
As far as Jeanette McCurdy goes, I think she got looped in with all of the other Nick kids that we're starting to understand in real sad ways these days.
Yeah.
Do you know who Jeanette McCurdy is?
Yeah. She's Sam.
Yeah.
From Sam and Cat.
So it was weird that you went with Sam and Cat and not I Carly.
I mean, Ariana Grande is top of mind.
Sure.
And they hate each other.
Allegedly. I don't know. Maybe.
They do.
Yeah.
There's blurbs about her in the book.
Is it because Ariana had part of your feet?
I mean, I would assume that would give her more screen time.
Gross.
Am I wrong?
So gross.
Am I wrong?
No.
All those videos that came out with her like sucking her, trying to chew on her own toe.
Anyway.
Nope. It's not because they're all misunderstood.
No one at the time thought, hey, this is real weird.
Even for a kids show.
Tarantino, but just.
The Hots were a wild time.
Yeah, they were.
And also Ruby Frankie.
Not misunderstood.
She's a monster.
That is correct.
So then what's the through line here?
These are people who have recently gotten internet attention for.
Let's go with problematic parent child relationships.
Okay. Yeah, I agree with that.
You want to hear? I mean, I think that's a solid, solid three.
Do you want to hear my three?
What do you got?
I got it.
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What do the Kardashians Netflix boxing and changes to the arrows tour have in common?
The Kardashians Netflix boxing and changes to the arrows tour.
Yes.
Things that get entirely too much attention on the internet.
That and bingo. Good job.
Yeah.
Yeah. But we'll go with yours.
And on that note, today's topic is the recently released and currently expecting Gypsy Rose Blanchard.
I'm expecting her to shut up any day now, but I don't think that's going to happen.
She's about to release a book. So good luck.
I've got some hot takes. I don't even know if they're hot takes.
I think it's what most people feel.
I feel like the reason that people care about her at all is people love watching a train wreck.
And like it's the whole reason there's a crash on the side of the highway, completely off the highway, not impeding traffic at all.
But everyone is slow to a crawl because they just want to see all the the mangled mess.
Sure. I think the rise of true crime and just kind of where we are as a society with stuff like that, that we see terrible things all of the time.
Yeah.
And so we're just kind of addicted to terrible things.
You think we just need to keep ramping it up?
Yeah. Bring on the terrible things.
Because going back to the Kardashians, the sex tape was a huge thing. Paris Hilton's sex tape was a huge thing.
Now, if a celebrity sex tape drops, is it going to make that big of news?
How many celebrities currently have OnlyFans and are actively putting out their own porn?
Uh huh. Yeah, I mean, it's the degradation of America.
Hey, we're not going to be that kind of podcast. Absolutely not.
So you are anti-Gypsy Rose.
Very much so.
Anti-Gypsy Rose and like she doesn't need to be on the internet like she is or in a sense that like the thing that she did was just evil.
Anti-Gypsy Rose and I think that she should still be in prison.
I think 10 years for what she did is a little light, even though she wasn't the trigger man.
Plausible deniability. I don't know what he was going to do.
Have you seen, I didn't even have time to get into, know that a big part of what got her popped because whenever the mom was found, she flipped immediately.
And threw it all on Nicholas Gojan.
I could not figure out how to pronounce that name, so thank you for that.
Yeah, I think it's Gojan. Go-dee-on. Maybe it's a soft J, like yogging.
Anyways, so yeah, I knew that there was like some very, very gross text messages leading up to and then during and then afterwards.
And so I was going to write down some of those and I couldn't find like text, like pictures of all the text because I know they exist because they were all court documents.
The only thing I could find was a YouTube video that was an hour and a half long.
Yeah, she just, she alluded to a lot of things in those texts that wouldn't be top of mind if I knew my mom was about to get murdered.
Like what? I didn't read over this part in my research for the episode.
Well, I mean, I don't want to misquote her because she would definitely sue us for defamation just so she could stay in the limelight just a little bit longer.
Yeah, I mean, I think her 15 minutes are almost up.
Let's see.
When she has that baby and the book comes out.
Thank God she has that Chad though.
Or does she?
That big dick energy or whatever it was.
I tried to sift through like the TikToks or the Instagrams and I just I could not stomach it.
I had to have Emily go through it.
I was getting panini pressed about it.
Oh jeez.
I never stopped sucking PDA sure from a baby bottle with with D's instead of T's like how a baby might text if they had a phone.
Yeah, lots of I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it kind of text too.
Yeah.
It also very much doesn't help that if I remember correctly, one of the reasons that people got suspicious and wanted to look into it was because
Gipsy posted on their shared Facebook page.
The fat bitch is dead or something along those lines.
Yeah.
People were like, hey, what's what's happening?
We should maybe send somebody over there.
And also referring to each other as daughter and daddy.
Oof.
Yeah.
Oh, and they also had alter egos that they would talk about when they were planning when they were plotting.
He called it his evil side that had a penchant for killing and enjoyed it.
And then hers, you know, hers was what Ruby.
How's it?
It's Ruby.
Oh, yeah.
That's anticlimactic.
That it will be something.
I mean, I guess she was what?
She was 20 when this happened.
She was arrested in 2015.
She was born in 1991.
24.
She was 24.
Oh, okay.
And for those who don't know, which I guess you've been living under a rock, is it the mother or the child that suffers from Munchausen by proxy?
The mother.
It'd be the mother. Yeah.
It's a mental illness about attention seeking.
So she wanted to get attention for herself.
By claiming that her daughter had all these kind of illnesses and all this other stuff, getting her on Make-A-Wish and getting to meet all these celebrities and stuff based on the fact that they thought her daughter was dying.
Yeah.
She met Miranda Lambert, who had to come out and make a statement after all that happened.
About how much her music sucks or what?
Probably.
She was trying to deflect from all the Blake Shelton stuff.
And so she meets this guy on the internet.
She's not supposed to have internet access.
She sneaks away on a laptop and has like a multiple year relationship with this dude, Nicholas Go-John, and dressed up as Cinderella Snow White.
I think it was Cinderella.
I was going to say Snow White.
Either way, she went to go see one of the Disney remakes with her mom dressed as, insert princess name here, and sneaks away with him and has sex with him in the bathroom for the first time.
And then after that, she pretty much had her claws into him.
And I've seen some stuff with him.
I've, I, I am not, I am not condoning what he did.
I completely think that he should be in prison, but he's, he's not all there.
He, that definitely should have been taken a little more into consideration whenever he was given his sentence.
And it could have, should have been taken into consideration whenever she was given her sentence too.
Yeah. I mean, I think they did take her condition into consideration whenever they sentenced her.
No, her condition, but not her taking advantage of his condition.
Oh, that's fair.
No, cause she, she definitely, she wanted, she wanted her mom gone cause she wanted the freedom, but she didn't want to get her hands dirty.
And so she got this, this dude to do it. I didn't even write down how old he was at the time.
I think he was a decent amount older than her.
But he ended up or she ended up with second degree murder and a 10 year sentence.
And she was paroled at eight years.
He was given life without the possibility of parole plus 25 years, which I don't, I don't understand the plus 25 years if it's already life without parole.
I'm going to be honest. I have no idea how life in prison works.
Like day to day.
Well, yeah, absolutely not. But I also don't understand life in prison.
Like not bending over and stuff.
Yeah. The soap stuff doesn't make sense to me. Anyway.
Well, you probably wouldn't want to use bar soap for that. You'd probably need something that's a little more lathery, more oily, less friction.
Anyway, how does one get to life sentences? Like what's, what's the point of that?
Exactly. And you get like these people that have like 17 life sentences.
Like I get you're saying a life for a life, but excessive, right? Yeah.
Yeah, it's a little, it's a little much.
Anyway, she got out what?
Last year. Yeah, she got out in December of last year. So she's been out for a little almost a year now.
Yeah. And she was supposed to be out next year. I think next year would have been her 10 years.
Yeah. I mean, I just think like, okay, I get it.
Like I understand the whole prison process. I understand what it's supposed to do.
Hey, if she gets out and she doesn't convince someone else to kill someone for her, great.
Prison worked. But also, I don't think that she should have been brought out of prison with this much pomp and circumstance.
Okay. So circling back to the Menendez brothers, because there's like traction and trying to get something overturned with them, which is ridiculous, I think.
But like we have this weird societal habit of making celebrities out of our criminals.
Like, so I was looking at all of the stuff that's been made about Gypsy Rose, which led me down a really deep rabbit hole I'll get to in a second.
But this woman has six different either movies or TV or like hour long specials made about her.
And then she's got a book about her and like conversations with her when she was in prison.
And then she has another book that's coming out, which is called My Time to Stand, which she's releasing.
What more of the story could we possibly need?
My Time to Stand? From the wheelchair that her mom forced her to be in?
Versus the grave that she caused her mom to be in for forever?
See, that's what I mean. Like, it's just mind boggling.
And they did the same thing with O.J. They did the same thing with Phil Spector went to prison and then that was pretty much it.
Charles Manson.
The one that shot the waitress, right?
No, that was Robert Blake. The little rascal.
He still got work to afterwards.
No, Phil Spector actually killed a woman in his house and went to prison for it for life.
And he was pretty big in the rock music scene. He created the wall of sound.
I don't know if that is.
Form of producing music.
I mean, it's still used today. Not as much. But yeah, he was the main force behind that.
A quick little segue on the...
I've never been on one.
I would love to be on a segue. Just once in my life. I want to feel like a mall cop.
I feel like that's one of the things that is on the internet that I don't believe.
That the guy that created the segue died because his segue went off the side of a mountain.
Have you heard that?
I have, yeah.
Do you think it's true?
I think it was on purpose, but yes.
Senior segue? You think it's true?
RIT to senior segue. Yes, I do.
Oh. But you think it was a...
I do.
It wasn't an accident?
It was suicide by segue.
Which I would argue is either a really cool or a really lame way to go.
If you invented the segue, I think it's a really cool way to go.
Are you leaning forward the whole time?
Do you still have your hands on the handlebars?
I imagine a Thelma and Louise kind of situation where you're just leaning as far forward as you can.
You just go zooming about a foot off the cliff.
So he's just got a whole convoy of cops behind him.
And he's just evading on his segue until he gets to the end and he looks over to nobody
because you can't have a passenger on a segue and he says, this is it.
Yeah. I believe that the cops are actually on those little hoverboard things.
Oh yeah. Oh man.
I wonder what traction's like on those.
I hope they stopped in time.
I've never been on one of those.
They went off like the lemmings.
Yeah. I think that I would be more willing to get on a segue than get on one of those hoverboards.
I've been on the little hoverboard things. I've never been on a segue.
Hmm.
One of my work friends, because we park up a really big hill,
he will take a little segue thing that he got, which is somewhere between a segue and a hoverboard
because it has a stem, but it's like a foot and a half tall instead of being like handled bars.
You're like hunched over.
You look like one of those clowns that rides that really tiny bike.
He really does because he is six foot two, I think.
It's fantastic. I love segues.
That wasn't the kind of segue I was talking about, and now I've forgotten what I was going to...
Oh.
So I was looking it up because Gypsy Rose has a net worth of $3 million, which is baffling to me because I...
I'll tell you what, that's bad news for Karen. Better watch out. I could use $3 million.
I got eight years to kill.
Yeah? Are you convincing my future sister-in-law to do some things?
I'm not saying who. I'm not saying who.
Anyway, so you can't profit off your crimes.
So a lot of documentarians and stuff will get with the owner of the estate
or the inmate's power of attorney to kind of pay them for their likeness and their story.
But yeah, she has a net worth of $3 million, and a lot of that has just come from the fact
that she has gone so hard in the last year or so with Today Show appearances and the new book.
And I assume she made some money for going viral about the...
She's on a high right now. She's living her best life, and y'all can't take that away from her.
Sorry, I went through far too many TikTok quotes.
Yeah, I couldn't do it. I tried a couple times.
My favorite ones are the ones that are mocking her, and they say it cross-eyed, looking off in two different directions.
Is that cross-eyed? Or just you unfocused?
I mean, one of them's looking at the nose, the other one is off looking into the ether.
Oh, that was the other thing I was going to say.
The reason I think that she is so ridiculously popular right now is for the same reason that people used to write to like...
Charles Manson would get all kinds of fan letters and stuff.
Not that I'm comparing Gypsy Rose to Charles Manson. Please don't sue us.
Allegedly. There's an allegedly over this entire episode.
Yes, allegedly over the entire episode.
But the reason that we idolize these convicts and people who have done terrible things
is just because we want to feel better about the lives that we're living.
And so we feel justified in her case in giving attention to a person who got victimized for the longest time.
It feels like we're good people because we're giving her what she wants now because she was denied it for so long.
Okay, but it's not my fault.
No, absolutely not.
She was denied it.
But it's like a... it's fake activism to some extent, I think.
Which I feel like is most activism these days.
Oh, for sure.
Internet activism is bullshit. Do things. Actual things.
But not things like their tomato soup on priceless works of art.
Yeah, no. Leave the Mona Lisa alone.
In the name of oil? In the name of not using oil?
That was what they were protesting?
I'm pretty sure it was stop oil.
That was a way less effective protest than the people who like cemented themselves to the tarmac.
Although, we are talking about both of them, so...
Damn it, Morty.
I guess that's a point in their favor.
They got us this time.
The crazier it is, the more people talk.
People still talk about PETA throwing blood on celebrities and stuff.
Yeah.
It comes up sort of jokingly in conversations, but that means it's still effective.
I don't even think that's really a Hollywood issue anymore.
I mean, I think that the Hollywood people are so up their own asses that some of the stuff they do, PETA's even like, oh, okay.
Speaking of PETA, and this is going to go way far away from our topic of discussion today, but did you watch Chimp Crazy?
No. No, I haven't.
It is so bizarre. It's really interesting, though. I definitely recommend the watch.
Is it a miniseries or is it a documentary?
It's a docu-series. It's four hour long episodes.
Oh, but it's not like a show?
No.
It's not about the...
It's one-off.
It's not about the woman that owned Travis?
It is.
Oh, it is?
She's not the main story, but she gets, I think, like most of an episode.
Is it Travis? Is he the chimp?
Yeah. The most insane thing about that story.
So if you're not familiar with this situation, this woman raised a chimp from the time he was a very, very little baby.
And she treated him like a child, like her child, but chimps get massive very, very quickly.
So this chimp at the time of the situation was 200 pounds.
And she had a friend coming over to, I think, just visit with him and bring him a toy or something like that.
She got to the driveway.
Travis comes out to go interact with her, and he snaps, and he rips most of her face off.
Terrible host.
Yeah. Right?
If I go to your house, and especially if I'm bringing you something, and you rip my face off, I'm going to be pissed.
Love to know that that's where your bar is.
Anyway, so they obviously had to put Travis down because he ripped a woman's face off.
The owner of Travis...
Did they at least replace it with John Travolta's face?
No, but it should have been Nick Cage's.
I would want Nick Cage's in this situation.
This woman got another chimp, like a year after the situation.
It goes into... there's, I think, three other assorted bad things that happen with chimps that are discussed in Chimp Crazy,
and there's one running storyline with the most botoxed woman I've seen in my life.
So the same woman that owned Travis got another chimp? How was that allowed?
It definitely wasn't.
But she did it anyway, because she just became completely catatonic, I think, when they had to shoot Travis.
What does that next book club look like?
Like when they're all sitting there, and it's time for their one fun fact of the week, and then this lady just pops up with,
Yeah, got another chimp. Marcus. And the lady with her no face is just over there drooling and just pissed off.
It showed a video of her bathing with the new chimp in Chimp Crazy, which was also not a thing I wanted to see.
Was she clothed?
I mean, she was in a bathing suit. It was HBO, but not that kind of HBO.
Huh. And like, I mean, they're primates, so they're working with the same kind of equipment, right?
Not a rabbit hole. You want to go down.
Huh. And you're just there, twigging berries, just all up in the tub?
Uh-huh. A lot of weird choices they made.
Well, I mean, this woman definitely sounds like she has all of it going on upstairs, so maybe just a fluke.
Sure, yeah.
Maybe Travis was just a bad egg. Maybe he had an evil side that enjoyed killing, or at least horribly maiming,
just like our friend Nicholas Goh John.
Circling back to our original topic.
Speaking of the Gypsy Rose stuff, did her mom do very questionable things? Without a doubt.
Absolutely.
Like, very obviously. Did she deserve to get murdered for it? Probably not. Prison? Okay. Murdered?
Eh, I think that's a bit of a reach. But no one ever brings up her dad in all of this.
And how this woman is doctor shopping, jumping around from specialist to specialist,
convincing these people to do all these tests when they say that they don't see anything,
and he's not saying, hey, what the hell's going on?
He wasn't. I thought he wasn't in her life at that point. I thought he was like they were divorced and like distanced from each other.
It doesn't matter. I mean, if you find out that your kid has all these problems, you're just not going to check in.
That's fair.
Yeah, I was looking up the list of things that Gypsy Rose allegedly had, and it was sleep apnea, leukemia, seizures,
muscular dystrophy, asthma, and visual and hearing impairments. She needed, she got her salivary glands taken out,
which was for one thing, not something I realized you could do. And for another, a thing I don't understand the context for,
like what causes you to need your salivary glands taken out?
Is she a drooler?
I don't think that feels a little dramatic of a reaction for she, she's a drooler.
I think an overarching theme in all of this is just overreactions across the board.
But like, I want to know from a medical standpoint, I guess, what potentials, like sickness she had that could be solved by that.
It would seem like that would cause a lot more problems than it would repair.
Well, yeah, it caused her teeth to alter up. Like she lost a bunch of her teeth because she had no saliva.
Yeah, that's gross.
She also, she was convinced that she needed a feeding tube, a wheelchair, glasses, and a couple of other things that were just...
Is the eye thing because of the glasses?
Probably.
So we're not allowed to say anything about that?
Probably not.
That's too bad. I'm still going to say it.
And see, that's the thing. If she hadn't come out so hot, if she had come out of prison, gotten paroled, yeah, yay, good for you.
Whatever. I don't care. And then just slipped off into obscurity, fine.
Would have no problem with you. If you popped up every now and then doing a documentary or whatever, okay.
But you didn't.
Yeah.
You didn't. You went so far as to post on Mother's Day about how you wished she was here, which is just one of the most mind boggling things I can imagine.
Yeah. I give her some amount of credit because I can't imagine what just developmental damage was done to her with all of this stuff.
And she's also been in jail for a while, so I don't think she has a real concept of being a person in the world.
Yeah, but no one wanted to guide her through it. They just threw a microphone and a camera in front of her face.
That's what we do to everyone these days.
Just let it all spew out of her. I know. And it's a societal issue. I'm not saying it only starts and ends with Gypsy Rose, but it gets on my last nerve.
Have you ever heard of the musical Gypsy? It debuted on Broadway in 1959 based on a memoir about a striptease artist named Gypsy Rose Lee.
Gross.
Who had a stage mother who spent her entire life trying to get fame for her daughter so that she could get fame through them. That sound familiar?
Yeah, Jeanette McCurdy was the first person I mentioned on the common thread today.
But it just makes you wonder if her being named Gypsy Rose was a omen?
That feels a little too on the nose. That's just lazy.
If you're going to be this kind of person and you know that you're going to use your child for clout, I guess, or whatever.
Maybe if the Make-A-Wish people had done some research, they would have known.
So when it comes to Gypsy's medical diagnoses, one of the most interesting things that I found was that they claimed all of her medical records got lost in Katrina.
So they moved to Missouri after Katrina. They had a house built for them by Habitat for Humanity, and she was able to doctor shop so effectively because she said that all of her medical records were just like gone.
More like Habitat for Homicide.
This is actually Habitat for Humanity's fault.
Calling it now, folks.
No, so she moved from Louisiana to Springfield.
And how? Like that was only in like 2008. So like stuff was digitized.
Yeah, I'm not really sure what the logic on that was.
Clouds existed.
So I'm sure there were databases that these people could have looked into.
Yeah, no, it was a failing of a lot of our medical system.
Surprise, surprise.
So when Gypsy was 14, she went to a neurologist who had a feeling that she was suffering or that she had been the victim of Munchausen by proxy and decided that there just like wasn't enough evidence to actually bring it up to the powers that be, which is insane.
I mean, wouldn't it be better just to look into it versus just, you know, saying, oh, never mind. All good here.
Absolutely. And also, by the time she was 14, so by the time this appointment would have happened in the first place, she was already in the wheelchair.
She already had the glasses, the feeding tube, maybe the salivary gland surgery.
Like there were so many things wrong that you could probably start pulling on threads and find some stuff.
Like even if she maybe did need glasses or maybe did have leukemia, you have 15 different very serious ailments.
Probably have that conversation with some kind of basis behind it.
Yeah.
Oh, she's from the southernmost part of Louisiana.
Oh, so like central Katrina.
Yeah.
It sounds like it's a failure just through and through.
Failure from the doctors, failure from her father, failure on Dee Dee's part, failure on homeboys people.
Nicholas. Yeah, I mean, it's just and that's usually how these things go, which just all these things slip through the cracks until all of a sudden something explodes and everyone's thinking, why, why did this happen?
Without wanting to point the fingers at themselves.
Yeah.
And now we all we we all want to be internet sleuths and be like, well, this is the actual problem.
There were a lot of them and also nothing that anyone on the internet right now is going to solve by watching her TikToks, following her on Instagram or speculating about her situation, us included.
But you should still listen to this podcast.
No, I mean, we're bringing you hard hitting stuff.
Where else are you going to get a segue about segues?
Nowhere. That's where.
Damn straight.
Speaking of the Instagram and the TikToks and all that.
I know so much about her against my will.
Yeah. Just because I live in a person that partakes in TikTok, not Instagram so much, but and just media in general.
Like, I shouldn't know that she wanted to go to the Kansas City Arrows Tour, but couldn't because her probation officer said no.
And then she lied to the probation officer and tried to wiggle her way around it to get to go.
I don't know if she thought she was going to meet Taylor or what the deal was.
But you're making wish days are over, girl.
People don't want to bring that up that she was fresh out of prison and was lying to her probation officer.
I think she was crossing state lines in order to because I think she was supposed to stay in Louisiana.
I think she was released to her dad and stepmom, something like that.
All this is alleged. Go look into it yourself.
But this is definitely a thing that happened.
And she and so stupid.
So right as soon as she got out, she got this deal.
Was it life after lockup? Maybe. Yeah.
And so they're following her around with cameras.
They have it recorded, her lying to her probation officer.
And then they also have it recorded.
This was on the show.
It didn't end up on the cutting room floor.
No one was smart enough to say, hey, don't post this.
Find something else to fill the time with.
Find some other B-roll.
But they posted the lie and the further lie on the phones of the probation officer about trying to go to a damn Taylor Swift concert, like not even a week out of prison.
And then tried to play it off as, oh, it was just a misunderstanding.
It's on recording. It was on national television.
I wouldn't know about it otherwise.
Sort of related, but I wonder how much of like reality TV, like the nonsense filler stuff is to cover up terrible things that were said on camera that someone paid money to get taken off.
The exact opposite of the jinx.
Yeah, I'm sure it's a lot.
Like I'm sure every 22 minute episode, you've got hours of just cuts that had to be made because they could not, they would ruin someone's career.
Oh, so Gypsy Rose was having this conversation with the Huffington Post.
And it was just like, oh, where are you at now kind of thing.
Like everyone and their mother has done with Gypsy Rose since she got out last year.
And they were talking about her like massive success on TikTok.
And she said that the reason that she thinks that she connects with Gen Z so well is because she's also trying to figure out who she is, which feels like it's downplaying some pretty important context.
It does, I think, speak to the just arrested development that she's in.
Because she's equating herself with these 18 year olds who are just young and naive and fresh in the world and stuff, even though she's 33.
Okay.
But would would that fly?
If it were.
I don't know.
A kid that was 17 got shit face plowed into seven cars, killing 12 people.
He gets out after eight years and then says, you know, I think they like me because I don't know who I am either.
That's just ignorant.
That's ignorant.
I mean, you know what I mean, though?
It is an insane take to be like, I'm just like you fellow kids because I also don't know who I am.
No, because these people are younger than you were.
Like you were you were six years older than most of these people that are watching your videos when you decided to get your mom murdered.
I feel like these aren't these aren't equivalent situations.
No, but it does speak to the desensitization of just the population at large that we can just brush that part off and saying, yeah, she did that.
But but but her sound, the sound is a great clip for tick tock can be used in so many different applications.
I don't want to know the penis size of people that she's with.
I don't need to know about her sex life.
I don't want to know about her soft anal or hard anal.
I didn't even want to hear those words again this time around.
No, I mean, I don't want to have to read them.
I don't like that you wrote it down.
I didn't write it down.
I had to look it up.
You read it.
Well, I had to look it back up because I couldn't bring myself to write that on this piece of paper.
Your Google ads are about to be a little different.
I don't want to do that on my work phone, too.
Oh, God.
Be getting a call on Monday.
So how long do you think she is going to stay in the limelight?
I think she is going to grasp at it for dear life.
I think she's going to take every opportunity to hold on to it.
I think that if they ever brought like celebrity boxing back, she'd be first in line.
Any of those shows where they're like, huh, I thought she was dead.
Those.
That's where you're going to see Gypsy Rose.
What is celebrity boxing?
Exactly what it sounds like.
And along the same, hey, I mean, minus the murder, one of the biggest competitors on celebrity boxing was Tanya Harding,
who also had someone else do their dirty work.
I had never heard of this.
Interesting.
That's worth a watch.
It's a very terrible boxing, much like any kind of boxing you get on Netflix.
We didn't even get to see the results of the Paul and Tyson fight until the next day.
Our Netflix just completely crapped out at the end of the third fight.
The two women.
The Serrano and Taylor one.
One with the eye flap bouncing around.
Yeah, the best one was that second one with Barrios and Mario Barrios.
I'm always going to refer to him by his whole name because it's awesome.
And some other dude.
Someone who's not named Mario Barrios.
Who was the other dude finding Mario Barrios?
Jamie, pull that up.
Oh, shit, we don't have a Jamie yet.
One day. One day we'll have a Jamie.
Abel Ramos.
There we go.
Have a cooler name.
We'll remember you.
Yeah.
There was some controversy with the women's fight.
Something about headbutting.
Are they saying that's where the eye cut came from?
That was how it happened.
Oh, it is?
She headbutted her like three or four times.
Did you see the first fight?
Where the Indian dude humped the...
It did, yeah.
Yeah, that was...
Ah, the Ocracy of America.
Yeah.
Oh, so the people are still getting upset about the Serrano and Taylor fights.
I guess they have fought before.
And Taylor's go-to move is for some reason headbutting people.
And no one says anything about it?
It's gotten her disqualified or gotten points knocked off before because she's headbutted people.
And her argument is just like, yeah, it sometimes happens in boxing.
Does it?
Oh.
I'm not a boxer.
I don't know for sure, but I don't think it does.
Have you seen the videos of Tyson's pulled punches?
I rewatched the fight after there was some stuff that came out theoretically about their contract.
Where he wasn't allowed to go down in the...no one was allowed to go down in the first two rounds or Tyson wasn't getting paid.
He had to last all eight rounds to get the full payout.
And so he was just like trying to go Iron Mike and then just had to like back out last night so that he didn't just kill Jake Paul.
Yeah, it was a waste of my time.
It was so dumb.
It was a waste of everyone's time.
But hey, we fell for it.
He threw like 90 punches to Jake Paul's like 300.
You got to see them cheeks though.
I did. I did get to see them cheeks.
That was some thick cake.
I also got to watch Logan Paul spray an ungodly amount of their version of Axe on just everyone.
At some point it's a biological weapon, right?
Sold exclusively at Walmart.
Incredible.
You think he went across the street from the stadium to go get it?
Go pick it up?
I hope so.
You think he did an Instacart?
For Prime Body or whatever the hell it's called?
Honest to God.
G?
I don't know.
Whenever it first came out, or whenever they like first came out in the car doing the...in the air tonight,
I thought Logan was spraying Jake Paul with glitter.
I did too.
I wanted it to be glitter, and not whatever nonsense body spray thing they have.
Weird one letter name.
Is it Y?
That's my question.
W.
Because it's sold at Walmart?
Because it's for wieners?
Gross. Just the whole thing is gross.
I don't mean like an actual wiener, like a metaphorical wiener.
I guess it could be for both.
I don't know.
I assume it's got the same target demo as Axe.
Spray it wherever.
You don't want Axe on your wiener.
No? I don't know.
It's Axe and for trouble.
Boo.
Shh.
So I got two more things that I want to discuss.
Okay.
First one are these dumbass quotes.
Okay.
That turned into TikTok sounds that were put all over the place.
Tell me if this one sounds familiar.
Can't bring me down.
I'm on a high right now.
I'm living my best life.
And y'all can't take that from me.
Yeah.
I think I watched the original video of that once and I don't think I actually had that
as a like sound on any of the TikToks or anything that I watched, which I think proves that I'm
on the right side of the internet.
Or, honey, I'm so not threatened by you.
My man wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole.
I know that one because that's where the Panini pressed one's pressed quote comes from.
Is that for Ryan or Ken?
That was Ryan.
That was one whose dick she was talking about pretty extensively.
Oh, she was talking about his 10 foot pole?
Yeah.
Oh.
And then.
So not the Chad.
Not the Chad.
I don't know.
Which one's a Chad?
I'm blissfully unaware of this particular situation.
Oh my God.
10 foot pole remix.
Tempting.
You see what I mean?
An insufferable person.
She gives real Lea Michele energy.
But like a talentless Lea Michele.
At least my Lea Michele could sing.
Yeah.
Gypsy Rose can probably read.
But can she?
How stunted is that growth?
We don't know that she can read.
If she can, she's probably reading two pages at once.
Allegedly.
Have you seen that Spongebob meme?
It's going two different directions.
Ooh.
Someone in the comments said I might not have a man, but I do have a mom.
Zing.
There are 500 replies to that one comment.
How many of them?
Hey, be nice.
Not a damn one.
She's been through so much.
Several of them are just the gif of Pam with the Dundee yelling at the camera.
So Ryan is the prison husband, the one that is long, strong, and down to get the friction on.
Correct.
But then where did Ryan, or not Ryan, where did Ken come into the picture?
I'm sorry.
I still need to process that one for a second.
Oh, it's from a poem.
Yeah?
What poem?
I believe it's a medieval poem called Baby Got Back from Sir Mix-a-Lot.
I don't like hearing that as a spoken word.
I think he was like Lancelot's right-hand man or something like that.
That's why he was a sir.
Yeah, like Sir Ian McKellen, but Sir Mix-a-Lot.
Do you think he had to be dubbed Sir Mix-a-Lot?
Was he just Mix-a-Lot before then?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he was Dutch.
Yeah.
That's a very common Dutch surname, Mix-a-Lot.
I was expecting more of a gold member accent on that one.
Disappointed.
I don't know how Ken came to be.
His name is Ken Urker, which is also not a pretty last name.
Does that irritate you?
It does. It urkers me.
Also, neither here nor there, but I hate the phrase baby moon.
Like as a right before you have the kid getaway kind of thing.
Oh, it's not what happens right after a new moon?
No, I don't think so.
Well, that's probably why astronomy wasn't my strong suit.
Such a Virgo.
They talk like middle school flirting.
He came and it was kind of a funny story, but within the first 30 minutes,
he came to visit her in prison.
That feels important to add context there.
He leaned in and gave me the most wonderful kiss of my whole life.
The kiss he gave me was quite passionate.
I looked at him and I was like, I didn't even know you liked me like that.
And he said, yeah, I have for a while.
And I said, I have for a while too.
And this is husband or baby daddy?
Baby daddy.
He popped the question in October of 2018.
Oh, really?
Okay. So they were together until 2019.
And then she got married to Ryan Anderson in 2022 in the prison.
And then she filed for divorce after less than two years of marriage.
April of this year, she got back together with that dude.
But then there's videos of him getting grinded on.
And then she's over here saying, that's my husband.
That's not okay. He is married.
I'm pregnant with someone else's baby, but he is married.
He's younger than her.
It doesn't look it.
And see, isn't that just a perfect example of how she thinks the world works?
That the rules only apply to everyone else except for her.
In what sense?
In the sense that it's okay for her to pretty much do everything but the pokey poke to get her mom killed.
And then, oh, but I didn't do it.
So it wasn't as I was innocent.
And then I'm pregnant with someone else's kid, but that's my husband.
Get off of him.
He is married.
It's just seems like prison didn't do her a bit of good.
Also, that reminded me of something from way earlier in this episode.
Second degree murder is malicious but without premeditation.
And that is an insane thing for them to have sentenced her with.
How is there not premeditation?
There are text threads and phone calls and messages and shit.
You would think that it would be like maybe manslaughter, doing something that causes someone to get murdered or to die.
You don't think that second degree murder, I thought second degree murder was just like a snap decision.
It is. It's malicious but no premeditation.
That was a whole game plan involved there.
And see, that's why she's allegedly, no, she is. She's the worst.
The worst? Probably not.
One of the worst? Yes.
The worst that is currently popular, without a doubt.
I think Lea and Michelle should have played her in the act.
Yeah.
She's also the worst. A different kind of the worst, but so far as we know, it's racism and not murder.
She's a racist?
Towards who?
All of the black people she's ever worked with.
And Kiki Palmer is actually about to release a book that includes some stuff about her time on Scream Queens that is not too kind.
Or that reveals some not too kind things one of her co-stars said.
And where is she? Not Emma Roberts?
She's a little off-kilter too.
Sure, definitely. But no, internet sleuths do what internet sleuths do.
And they looked through all of the people that Kiki Palmer follows, and she follows all of the Scream Queen girls except for Lea and Michelle.
And also, it was a racism, so they were all just kind of guessing that that was how that played out.
Considering all the stuff that was said about Lea and Michelle when she was doing her glee thing.
Like how she got Corey Monteith killed? Allegedly.
What? What do you mean?
What do you mean what I mean?
Is there anything to any...?
She was just so insufferable to be around, the only way out he had was Canadian crack.
Cancelled. I'm canceling you for that one.
Me?
RIP.
I said allegedly.
Yeah, no. I'm still canceling you for it.
Why? Did he or did he not die of Canadian crack?
I want a button on the soundboard that just says cancelled.
How do you make that happen?
I want a boo button and a cancelled button. I know what I'm about.
Put that down. I'll get that for you.
Just to reiterate, you're saying boo, right?
Mm-hmm.
Can I have a boo button?
Booob.
You know what? I would also accept a boo button.
I'm gonna have to find a fun little sound bite.
There's gotta be some TV show or movie.
Let me know. I'll get it down.
Okay, so now I said two more things like five more things ago.
Last thing. So she's about to be a mother.
What are the odds based on the behavior that she has already exhibited?
What are the odds that she is DD 2.0?
You think she's gonna be worse?
She has a thirst for the limelight.
A thirst to stay in the public conscience.
Do you think that her parenting is gonna be held under a microscope
by people that actually can do something about it?
So I think it'll be held under a microscope,
but I think it's gonna be allowed to go way further than it should.
Because of her mother?
Just because we're kinda curious.
No, because people wanna know what's gonna happen
more than they want to protect people that need it.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Because I think, like Quiet On Set.
Yep.
Quiet On Set was not made...
It might have been made for somewhat good reasons
to get Drake Bell's story out there
because he wanted to finally share it.
But so much of that was just,
hey, remember all of these things that you liked in your childhood?
This is why all of them are terrible.
This is all the traumatic things that happen to these kids.
Is anyone better for it? I don't think so.
No, I told you whenever we talked about it
in whatever episode that was that it felt real...
icky.
Like that one scene where it's the end of one episode
and then they're talking about on the next episode,
it's all this and this, this, this and this,
and then a silhouette of Drake Bell
sitting in the director's chair.
Yeah, it's... I... I don't know.
I mean, I think that it's probably important for him
to get his stuff out there,
especially with all the other stuff that he'd been accused of
and all that.
And I don't necessarily think that he did that just to say,
no, what I did was okay because of this and this.
But I do think it was like, no, think about this
so you don't think about that.
Yeah. Yeah, and...
Yeah, I think we're all just gross voyeurs
that just want to watch other people's lives burn.
Mm-hmm.
Like the...
There was... So there's one other thing that I wanted to mention
when we were talking about this kind of story.
There is a TikToker in Australia or New Zealand
whose kids just got taken from her
because of the same thing.
I'm on trial soon by proxy.
She was making TikToks and stuff about her daughter.
I think she has two or three kids.
And they all got taken from her custody
because she was just lying about their diagnoses.
She said one of them was completely covered in tumors.
And in the most just disgusting, transparent thing
that I think I've ever seen,
she goes from like fake just sobbing about her daughter,
her daughter's tumors,
and this child that she had that was stillborn.
And then she goes straight into,
I don't have a coffee maker.
I really just need coffee right now.
And all I have is this instant stuff.
But it's going to be fine.
I guess like it'll do for right now. I just need coffee.
I really just wish I had a real coffee maker.
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Who hurt you?
Huh.
First of all, not condoning any part of this whatsoever.
But if you're going to cry on camera,
there are artificial tears.
At least make it look a little believable.
Every TikTok that you see
where someone is actively crying,
like maybe not if they're like telling a story
and describing something
and then like they get a little welled up.
But if they're like sobbing uncontrollably
and just falling apart,
it is 100% fake and staged.
And especially because there's a video going around TikTok.
It came out right after DJ T got elected
of the woman in her car just screaming,
no, no, no.
And yeah, so snot starts flying out and spittle,
goes towards the camera.
And you just think about the process for that
and how many times she had to sit there
and press record, do her thing,
realize that maybe the sun was causing a weird flare
on the camera and then stop it,
reposition the camera, record again, scream,
and then realize that maybe she didn't get her best angle,
had to stop it, record it,
and just now fake all of it is.
And to what end?
Like is the validation you get from that worth it?
So in this specific person's case,
I believe that people were paying like GoFundMe
is we're like buying her probably a coffee maker.
I sure hope so.
Because instant is terrible.
Sure, but lie about your kid's tumor is terrible?
I mean.
Well, lie about your stillborn child's terrible?
I would do some crazy things to not have to drink instant coffee.
Allegedly.
Everything's fixed if you just say allegedly afterwards.
Allegedly, yeah.
Allegedly.
Oh, yeah.
So the the tick tocker that has allegations against her now,
coffee maker lady,
has allegations against her that she drugged her one year old daughter
leading to months of hospitalization and unnecessary brain surgeries.
Which is maybe better that we're catching on earlier now
that the Internet is a place where no one can really hide for very long
once the right people get a hold of your your stuff.
But at least I guess on the medical side of the Gypsy Rose stuff,
the medical records online and available like through some central database
wasn't as prevalent.
So they get a little bit of a pass from that.
But they still tend not do their own research and their own tests
to make sure that what you're being told is actually true is
and just going along with what their mom says is just mind boggling.
I mean, you want to believe that a parent is going to have their children's best interests at heart.
You would hope that's the case.
You would hope so.
That sunshiney note.
That's all I got for this episode.
So where do we stand on Gypsy Rose?
Is she the worst?
The Internet is a very weird hellish place to be.
I don't know if she's the worst.
I'm waiting for her 15 minutes to be up, but I'm not penny impressed about it.
You're at least going to get one more special when the baby comes.
Yeah.
And then, like I said, look for on the reboot of Celebrity Boxing.
I want all of her.
She's going to be on Dancing with the Stars first and Celebrity Boxing.
Does she have to have an ankle monitor just like what's her face?
And Delvy.
Yeah.
I hope so.
I love that for her.
I was going to see if her Instagram captions were real unhinged.
I don't think I saw that when I was looking at looking at all this stuff.
She named her daughter after a Disney princess, too.
Her name's Aurora.
Aurora Reyna, I think.
Hmm.
So another Disney adult, huh?
What were the odds that didn't happen?
Yeah.
All of them.
Crazy people.
Come at me.
Was it Sleeping Beauty?
Is that the movie?
Is that the one she was dressed as?
Oh, maybe.
I don't know.
End of the day, it doesn't really matter.
But it's just all still so mind numbing.
The brain rot is real, guys.
Oh, God.
So the My Time to Stand book, she does her own audio.
She did the voiceover for it, and I can't imagine.
Oh, no, thank you.
I want to listen to less.
No, no, thank you.
We can get a sneak peek on her Instagram.
Also, did you look at the...
Did you look at her Instagram?
No.
I saw the pictures, but I didn't read the captions for it.
That's what I was going back for.
But she has the creepiest cookies I have ever seen at her baby shower.
Are those from the 4D sonogram?
I...
Because it's still in utero, right?
That's too many details, I think, for even a 4D sonogram.
Should we just slide a camera up there?
Wouldn't be surprised.
Going on Instagram Live.
Little aurora rain.
Well, is there anything we can take away from this episode?
If you're one of the people that is following her,
who has 9.9 million followers on TikTok,
or her 756,000 followers on Instagram,
sit down for a second.
Think about your choices.
That's fair.
And if you disagree with anything that either one of us have said during this episode,
feel free to let us know.
You're wrong, because everything we've said has been truthful and right.
But hey, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how stupid it is.
And because it's obligatory, the M. Night Shyamalan Presents
Avetide The Last Airbender still sucks.
But not as much as Gypsy Rose.
We're here for y'all, until the times become precedented again.
And if there's any little nugget you can take from this episode
to use in your life moving forward,
it's when life gives you a get out of jail free card.
You take it, you shut your mouth, and you get out of town.
Wise words.
See you next time.
Bye.