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Five, four, three, two, one, zero.

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Welcome to the show, people.

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Welcome to the show.

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Eat my shorts.

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So here is to conversation.

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And quality based here, the ankle has landed.

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Welcome to the Cash Exchange podcast.

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Today's three choices.

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Today's three...

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Common threads? Common threads, yes.

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Are a trip to the casino, a trip to get a colonoscopy, and a trip on mushrooms.

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What's the common thread?

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Wow, alright.

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I'm not going to lie, I am very proud of this list.

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Of these three things.

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Okay, so it's a trip on mushrooms, a trip to the casino, and a trip to get a colonoscopy.

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That is correct.

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Things that could go sideways really fast.

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Yes, yes, good job.

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Alright.

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These trips are either very good or very bad usually.

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I personally have never had a colonoscopy, but I've heard good things and I've heard bad things.

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Never done mushrooms, heard good things, heard bad things.

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Honestly, they terrify me.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, I don't trust myself to have a good trip.

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That is a fair mentality.

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Don't do drugs, kids.

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You can get over the blockage in your mind relatively easily, I will say.

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Yeah?

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Because my brain works against me all the time, but that one is not as hard of an obstacle as I thought it would be.

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Huh.

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Theoretically speaking.

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And then a casino, I've walked out of there a winner and I've walked out of there many more times a loser.

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I think a lot of people walk out of casinos a loser one way or the other.

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I think you're a loser when you walk in.

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But I still do it because I'm still living for that American dream.

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Still holding out hope that you're going to win the lottery.

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One day. You can't win if you don't play.

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That is certainly a mentality to have.

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But you know what else has wild swings on whether they're good or bad?

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What is that?

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Vacations with family.

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That is a very fair point.

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Or really just vacations in general.

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I think that it depends a lot on your company, what you're doing, why you're doing it, and how badly you needed the vacation.

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Yeah, I think it's so difficult to do family vacations if you have different ideas of what fun is.

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Because there's always one person that's a lot more dominant in their opinion.

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Oh, you sound like you're speaking from experience.

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You know, he's not going to listen to this. I absolutely am.

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I doubt it.

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But after this one's posted, I'll send it to him.

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That's fine. Just burn all my bridges for me.

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I'm fine with that.

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No, a lot of our vacations growing up were centered around one particular member of our family.

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And it made all of the things that we did just weird.

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Because a six and a 12-year-old aren't going to want to do the same things as a 42-year-old.

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Something like that, yeah.

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There was no meeting in the middle on those.

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To be fair, we do have a lot of crossover.

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Every time that we were at a mini golf place, Chuck E. Cheese, we wouldn't see him.

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He'd be off playing the games, and we'd just be there fending for ourselves.

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That would be a fun episode.

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I don't think it is 100% fair to say that we didn't have anything in common.

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And his interest didn't align with ours at six and 12, 13 and seven, 14 and eight.

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Sure.

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15 and nine.

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Yeah.

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16 and 10.

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Did we go on any vacations when we were 16 and 10?

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I was thinking about that.

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I was thinking about the last time we went on a family vacation.

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I think we went to...I don't remember when we went to Port Aransas.

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I want to say I was like six or seven.

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It was a long time ago.

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Because I think that, if not that, then San Antonio maybe a couple years later was the last one that we went to as a nuclear family.

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Okay, yeah. That makes sense.

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And then after that, it would just be our mom taking us for like, I don't know, four or five days to San Antonio.

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We always went to San Antonio. Or Oklahoma.

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Also, for those listening, this was before Blackfish, so we didn't know.

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We did go to SeaWorld.

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And side note, I've seen Blackfish. I like Blackfish.

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I think it is very...I mean, it definitely has an agenda.

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So that's something that you should take into account when you're watching any documentary.

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Right.

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But it definitely had its impact on SeaWorld.

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We went over Spring Break and it is like a ghost town.

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And all the shows suck now.

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Aren't they about to change it from SeaWorld to like United Parks or something like that?

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I thought they were changing their name to something way less fun.

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Yeah. I don't know exactly what it is, but there's definitely that documentary put a hit on their profit margin.

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So you're saying that your most memorable family vacation was Port Aransas?

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Yes. Now that you mentioned SeaWorld, I do remember SeaWorld.

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But the only other one I really remember was Port Aransas and sort of the Space Center in Houston.

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Yeah, because you went there with the Girl Scouts, right?

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Well, I went there with you guys too.

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I was a little at that point.

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Yeah. They had a big playground and stuff in there. They don't have it anymore.

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Is that a post-COVID thing?

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I don't think so.

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I think that their demographic just was older than that.

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Because really now you don't see a bunch of little kids running around.

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We went there last year and I think the kids we were with were probably the low end of the age spectrum.

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That's surprising.

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I would think that there would still be a massive market for kids at NASA.

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There's still stuff you can do, like hands-on stuff.

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But as far as the jungle gym and stuff, that's all gone.

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Another thing I think is that they also added experiences and stuff.

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So stuff that would take up more room.

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They have an Angry Birds space experience that you can do.

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What is that?

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I have no clue. I think you have to pay extra for it.

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Okay.

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Or maybe you don't. But either way, the line was super long so we didn't do it.

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Yeah, I think that that's probably the, I don't know, just the thing that's changed with the times.

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I miss having experiences. I feel like so much of our spending these days is just things.

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I miss being able to go do things.

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I try to steer away from that because I mean stuff just ends up all over the house.

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And so if something's coming up and I say, hey, what do you want to do?

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Not what do you want, what do you want to do?

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I feel like that's something that's for everyone.

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It still celebrates that person.

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And you get a lot more out of it than you would if it was a Barbie and it was played with for two hours

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and then thrown into a bucket somewhere.

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I cannot tell you how many things are currently in my apartment that I either have never used or used and will never use again

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because the guilt of throwing away something that someone got me is just a little too much.

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Have you ever had someone come up to you and be like, hey, did you enjoy that blah blah blah blah?

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I have many times. And it's always for a gift that was bought online.

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That was something that like it's usually for something that I liked at some point in my life

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that I don't necessarily like now.

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And so it's just it's I got a little like safe thing inside of a Bible

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because he thought it would be funny that I got a Bible as a gift and then I opened it and it was a safe.

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I also got a...

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So if someone has come into your house and they're struggling, they're having a real hard go at it

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and they're sitting on your couch, they look over, they see a Bible, they pick it up because they just want some answers.

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They just want to feel that warm embrace of God.

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Yeah.

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And instead they're just going to find a little tiny safe.

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OK. So first of all, no one and I mean no one is coming to my house to look for answers, especially with God.

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OK. OK.

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But yeah, I got I got that. I got the hoodie and I got a clock that confuses the hell out of me.

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So it it starts white noise 1 a.m. every single day.

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Do not know why. About two weeks in.

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Like the so the light comes on. It plays like bird noises and general foresty things at 1 a.m.

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At 1 a.m. every single day. Or it's not even 1 a.m., which is weirder.

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It's like 103. Is that on purpose? Every day.

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I didn't set it. I do not know who did.

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But I took it was one of those things that I didn't want to throw away.

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But like I wasn't going to use it.

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And so I unplugged it and I was just going to like let it die. Let it hang out.

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It is. September.

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It is the end of September.

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I got this thing in December of last year. Has not been charged.

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It does not have batteries. It's still going every morning. 103.

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Have you ever considered the possibility that your place of residence is also haunted?

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I hope it is. I think that's a dumb poltergeist, but I hope it is.

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One that just turns on a white noise clock every day and charges it while you're gone.

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Did they die on January 3rd?

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Like what is their significance here?

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I feel like there has to be something.

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So if the only vacations that you remember are Port Aransas and San Antonio, you don't remember Branson at all?

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We went to Branson. We did go to Branson.

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No. Yeah.

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And tried to go to Silver Dollar City and they were closed, which I felt like someone could have looked up before we went.

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We saw Lane Spurton. Who? Magician. Okay.

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Extraordinaire. We rode. We did one of those amphibious. The duck boats? Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah. You don't remember anything about that? Not at all. Oh.

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When was that? Like how old were we? I couldn't tell you. I just know that we went.

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Was it a PS? Preach 9? No, no, because I wouldn't remember it.

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No, because that actually leads me into...

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So, okay. So which one of those two that you remember do you think was your favorite?

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Can I play the fifth?

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What about Shreveport? You remember Shreveport?

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I remember being in a hotel room and watching something on pay-per-view.

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We watched two things on pay-per-view.

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That is the extent of my... That sounds gross.

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There was Daredevil, the great movie starring Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner.

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That was a real low point.

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And the Lizzie McGuire movie.

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Alright.

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So we got permission to rent movies on pay-per-view because we were at a casino.

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We were 7 and 13 at the time, maybe. Somewhere around there. Yeah.

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No chance of going on to the casino floor.

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And our dad just left us up there with our mom.

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I mean, we weren't just abandoned, but it was the three of us.

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Yeah, it was the three of us in a hotel room in Shreveport, Louisiana at a casino hotel watching pay-per-view.

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I don't know if you can consider that a vacation.

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I mean, it was somewhere else. We weren't home. We were somewhere else as a family.

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One of us was doing something fun.

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Yeah, no. That has some of the makings of a vacation.

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We got a fancy Chinese meal where they, after the meal, they come over with a razor and scrape all the crumbs off the table.

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I work in a place where you have to use a little... It's called a crumber, for the record, in case you're curious.

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A crumber.

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It's a crumber, yeah.

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So if you're ever really...

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The restaurant's going to hell in the handbask and they're like,

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Where should I? Do you say, I'm over here crumbing? I'm crumbing.

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No?

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God damn it.

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No? Is that a no?

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No!

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Why not?

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You know what? I don't have a good why not.

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You don't say, I can't right now. I'm over here using the crumber.

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You say, I'm crumbing.

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To be fair, in my many years as a server, I have never once had to announce to anyone that I was crumbing.

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You've never been interrupted while you were crumbing.

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Alright, and that is enough of that.

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Good lord.

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Oh man. That's why they pay me the big bucks.

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This is why I need a real Bible in my home.

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It wouldn't hurt.

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I don't know that I have a favorite vacation because I really only remember bits and pieces of the vacations that we took.

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Mine's the original where they go to Wally World.

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Yeah. I didn't much care for the Ed Helms one.

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It had its moments. It definitely was a lot of just trying to chase what the original was.

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But I think it had its moments.

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Yeah.

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Okay, so no favorite, least favorite.

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There are a lot more vacations that you've taken than was with all four of us.

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I know. Actually, in mentioning that, there are a lot more of the family vacations.

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Because the first thing that my brain went to was the four of us, the more nuclear family vacations.

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I think my favorite vacations were actually the ones at Turner Falls when we would go back to take our cousin back to Oklahoma.

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We would go camping for a weekend or something like that. That was always fun.

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That was most of the time fun.

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Yeah. And I wasn't ever part of those. And whenever we would go to Turner Falls, it would be like a day trip type thing.

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We wouldn't stay out there.

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As far as least favorite vacations go, I have two.

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Can I see if I can name them?

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Let's go.

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Is one of them international?

234
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Yes.

235
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Canada.

236
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Yep.

237
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Vegas.

238
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Vegas.

239
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And Houston.

240
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For the wedding?

241
00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,040
Yeah.

242
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,040
No.

243
00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,040
Oh, no? Okay.

244
00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,040
That was the Vegas trip, though. We went to Houston. We were there for a day or something, and then we left Vegas.

245
00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,040
Anyway, Vegas wasn't great either of the times that I went.

246
00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:31,040
And part of the big part of the problem with Vegas is that I don't like gambling.

247
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I don't consider myself a very lucky person when it comes to that specific kind of thing. And so I don't have a lot of fun gambling.

248
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:47,040
And so taking me to a casino, especially when I'm underage, it's not fun for me.

249
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,040
Because the first time that I went to Vegas, I was 17, and the second time I was 21.

250
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:58,040
And I think I was up like 200 bucks when I left Vegas the second time.

251
00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,040
The first time we went to the Grand Canyon, which was something that I'd always wanted to do.

252
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:15,040
And our aunt threw a tantrum about halfway through and just sat on the road and said that the bus was going to stop to just get her,

253
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even though we were probably a mile from an actual bus stop inside the Grand Canyon.

254
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,040
She just sat there for I think 30 minutes while…

255
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,040
Middle of the road?

256
00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,040
No, on the side of the road.

257
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Because she was convinced that the bus was going to just stop mid-route, even though all of the buses said, we don't do that.

258
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:41,040
So all of the other members of the family were trying to convince her to move.

259
00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:52,040
I think that is a prevalent opinion with people on that side of our family.

260
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That things are just going to happen the way that I expect them to.

261
00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,040
Yes.

262
00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,040
Yeah, that's absolutely accurate.

263
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:07,040
I haven't seen that side of the family in I don't know how long, but I definitely know enough about them to have that opinion.

264
00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:14,040
Because the person from that side of the family that I do have constant contact with is also like that.

265
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,040
Which is why we ended up in Shreveport.

266
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,040
Well, it's funny because my least favorite vacation was Vegas, too.

267
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,040
Yeah? Why is that?

268
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,040
Well, because I was six years old.

269
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You were in utero.

270
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,040
Oh.

271
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,040
I got left at…

272
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:41,040
I know at one point we went to Circus Circus and I know there's stuff to do there with those kids.

273
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,040
But dad just up and ran off, left me with his sister.

274
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We drove there.

275
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,040
So I mean, I don't have any recollection of that, but it just that seems…

276
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That's an insane drive to make with a six-year-old and a pregnant lady.

277
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,040
Did she go?

278
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,040
Mom didn't go.

279
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,040
No.

280
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,040
That's an insane…

281
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,040
What?

282
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,040
She got left at home.

283
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,040
But why didn't you come with?

284
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,040
It was just me and dad.

285
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,040
I don't know.

286
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,040
Huh.

287
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:16,040
Yeah, we went to Vegas and then we went to…

288
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:27,040
We were in LA for a little bit because I remember we went down the walk of fame and then I think we ended up in San Francisco or San Diego.

289
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,040
My God, that's so much driving.

290
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,040
I mean, I have no…

291
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,040
I have memories of bits and pieces of it.

292
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:40,040
I don't know how much of it is actual memories and how much of it is I knew that happened so my brain just formed as a memory.

293
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,040
Yeah.

294
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:47,040
I remember Circus Circus vaguely and I remember Disneyland.

295
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,040
We went to Disneyland too.

296
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,040
And I remember going on the submarine ride.

297
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,040
I think at that point it was still Captain Nemo's whatever 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

298
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,040
Yeah.

299
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:04,040
But yeah, as far as that trip goes, that's all I remember.

300
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,040
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I just got passed around most of the time.

301
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,040
Sounds about right.

302
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:17,040
And I mean, I know that they say that Vegas is more family friendly now, but don't take a six-year-old to Vegas.

303
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,040
Wise words.

304
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,040
Or a 17-year-old.

305
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,040
Just throwing it out there.

306
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,040
Yeah.

307
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,040
I mean, if you're going to go for the family angle, maybe like 10 and up.

308
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,040
I did see David Copperfield when we were there the first time.

309
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,040
So that wasn't terrible.

310
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,040
Yeah.

311
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,040
I mean, there's lots of shows.

312
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,040
There's lots of stuff you could do.

313
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,040
But most of the stuff is going to be lost on a child.

314
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,040
Yeah.

315
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:47,040
And it's going to be lost on a teenager that would rather be literally anywhere else but with you.

316
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:54,040
And can't gamble, so that negates like 98% of the city.

317
00:20:54,040 --> 00:21:05,040
I spent a decent amount of my trip right after I turned 21 trying to figure out how I could like break off on my own so that I could go check out one of the dispensaries.

318
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,040
That was like the only upside that I had when I was 21 in Vegas.

319
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,040
I did that too.

320
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,040
And I couldn't make it.

321
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,040
But I did.

322
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,040
I did get a lecture on why weed is bad.

323
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,040
I did that in Colorado Springs.

324
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,040
I had a whole trip planned out.

325
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,040
I found my hotel.

326
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,040
I planned my route, everything.

327
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040
Someone decided to tag along.

328
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:33,040
And my sole intent was to go to a dispensary, stay there for a day or two, and then come back.

329
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:39,040
And then whenever this other person tagged along, that was no longer the plan.

330
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,040
And this was peak COVID, peak shutdown.

331
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,040
And in Colorado.

332
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:51,040
Like Colorado is one that stayed closed earlier and later than most of the other places.

333
00:21:51,040 --> 00:22:01,040
And so I informed them heading out that there wouldn't be much to do because I was going there for a specific reason.

334
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,040
And then I was just going to come back and didn't get to go.

335
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,040
Tried to sneak away, went on a walk and was thinking about going to one.

336
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,040
But then it was just ruined at that point.

337
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,040
Yeah.

338
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:21,040
They have a dispensary in Vegas that's basically like a Walmart.

339
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,040
Oh yeah?

340
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,040
And for no other reason.

341
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,040
I'm just curious what that looks like.

342
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,040
It's a 24-7 superstore for weed.

343
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Which is, I mean, is that necessary?

344
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,040
It's absolutely not, but I want to see it.

345
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,040
I mean, if there's anywhere that it would be necessary, it's Vegas.

346
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,040
Maybe Denver, but mostly Vegas.

347
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,040
And they also have like 24-hour liquor and all that.

348
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,040
I don't know.

349
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,040
I think it'd be interesting to see.

350
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,040
It's not called Sin City for nothing.

351
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,040
Fair point.

352
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:58,040
My final, my actual like number one worst vacation was Canada.

353
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,040
Oh Canada.

354
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,040
I did get to go to a Tim Hortons.

355
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040
I'm real proud of that one.

356
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,040
I'm real proud of that one.

357
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040
I did not get to try poutine.

358
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:18,040
I got an argument at the top of the CN Tower and I was not spoken to until we were back in Texas.

359
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,040
Like several weeks after we were back in Texas.

360
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,040
I mean, that happens.

361
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,040
Yeah, you know.

362
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,040
It's just an acquaintance, right?

363
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040
No bigs.

364
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,040
We didn't go to the one restaurant I wanted to go to.

365
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,040
Which was what?

366
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,040
You know, I don't even remember now.

367
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,040
That's not been too important to you?

368
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:43,040
No, it got overshadowed by the fact that I got an argument at the top of the CN Tower.

369
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,040
I was in...

370
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:53,040
So you could say that while you were at the top of the CN Tower, you and this other person weren't seeing eye to eye?

371
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,040
That was a good one.

372
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,040
I'll give you that.

373
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,040
Thanks.

374
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,040
I had to explain to Nate what a rim shot was today.

375
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,040
He was a little concerned for a second.

376
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,040
So you're talking about electric drum sets.

377
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040
You had to explain to Nate what a rim job was?

378
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040
Rim shot.

379
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Rim shot.

380
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,040
Oh, oh, okay.

381
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
That makes more sense.

382
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,040
That freak already knew what a rim job was.

383
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040
That one feels less earned.

384
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,040
I was just putting that in there so I could put it in on the other one.

385
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,040
Yeah.

386
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:34,040
Yeah, half of the time that we were in Canada, I was just in an apartment on my phone.

387
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,040
Because people around me were speaking a language that I do not speak.

388
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040
And making foods that I did not want to eat.

389
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,040
There was a whole fish.

390
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,040
I don't like fish heads.

391
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040
I don't like seeing fish heads.

392
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,040
I don't like the general face parts of the animal when I'm eating meat.

393
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040
I like to be in denial.

394
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Was it like the big fried kind?

395
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040
Like the flat ones?

396
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Mm-hmm.

397
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,040
That you just dig a fork into?

398
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,040
Yes.

399
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,040
Yeah.

400
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,040
And it smelled horrifying.

401
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,040
That's racist.

402
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:12,040
I will not stand to have that on this podcast.

403
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,040
Okay.

404
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,040
You take your racism elsewhere.

405
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:22,040
So obviously vacations without family are a lot more fun.

406
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,040
Preferable.

407
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,040
Vacations with family.

408
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:39,040
But do you find that when you're on a vacation with significant other or whatever friends that you end up doing stuff that probably would have done with a family?

409
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,040
Or do you feel like you steer clear of all that stuff?

410
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Steer clear of all the other people's families.

411
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:53,040
And then you go out and do all the crazy adult stuff.

412
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:58,040
So we went to Branson a couple months ago.

413
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:05,040
And when we went to Branson, we avoided all of the family things because it's supposed to be a family event town.

414
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,040
And that's not what we were there for.

415
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,040
We mostly just wanted to be outdoors for a while.

416
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:21,040
And the only things that we saw that we were really interested in that were more family designed activities were mini golf, which we did end up going mini golfing.

417
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,040
That was a lot of fun.

418
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,040
And I think it's called the Museum of Illusions or something.

419
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,040
It's this massive interactive science museum.

420
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,040
That sounds fun.

421
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,040
It looked really cool.

422
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,040
The outside of it is an upside down building.

423
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,040
And so it looks like the foundation is on top.

424
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040
It's something that I think I would check out if we went back.

425
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:56,040
But in all the vacations that we've taken, we've typically steered away from the family things just because if I'm out trying to enjoy my vacation, I don't want to be around other people's kids.

426
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:01,040
Generally speaking, I don't want to be around other people's kids, except for yours. Love yours.

427
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Yeah, I think that I think that I am more inclined to do family centric stuff when I don't have the kids.

428
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,040
I think it's mostly because I want to test it out before.

429
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,040
OK, that's fair.

430
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Because it's so much money to do stuff with kids to just you pay for two adults, which is already expensive, and then you're going to pay for three kids.

431
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040
And then you're at their whim.

432
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,040
Yeah.

433
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:41,040
So if they say, hey, I'm going to be an asshole, then you have to leave because they're being an asshole.

434
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,040
And they know it.

435
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,040
They know that they're in control and you can't do anything about it.

436
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,040
Oh, yeah, that sucks.

437
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,040
You can fight them until you're blue in the face, but then it just ruins it for everybody.

438
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,040
Yeah.

439
00:27:51,040 --> 00:28:08,040
And so I think a lot of my stuff when I'm when I'm out of town or when I'm out somewhere without them is just to test it out, see if it's something that is actually going to be worth the time, the frustration and the money invested.

440
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Yeah.

441
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Because I've done stuff like we went to Pensacola three months ago and we did mini golf because I like mini golf and kids like mini golf.

442
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040
And so we tried this place out.

443
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,040
And since we didn't have kids, we were surrounded by kids.

444
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,040
It was miserable.

445
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Yeah.

446
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:42,040
I don't know, we go on like vacations and stuff usually in the off peak season. Like it's usually easier for our schedules to align whenever everyone's in school.

447
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,040
Yeah.

448
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,040
So I don't have to deal with that too much.

449
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,040
Yeah, I will.

450
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Because I like doing I like doing like kid centered stuff.

451
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Like I'm not going to go out to bars, I'm not going to go out to where there's like crazy loud music and you just can't hear yourself think.

452
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,040
Yeah.

453
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:12,040
So I think that I do the family centered stuff, no matter who I'm with.

454
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Obviously this isn't something that you have had to deal with firsthand, but another thing that I have to take into consideration when I'm planning vacations now is all the nonsense that has to be packed.

455
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Everything that goes into leaving my house and going to live somewhere else for a couple days.

456
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Because good Lord, it's, it's two swimsuits, it's clothes for five days when we're going to be gone for two, because you never know what's going to happen.

457
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:55,040
It's tablets, it's chargers, it's headphones, it's because if you don't have that stuff, you're going to be miserable, because they're going to be miserable.

458
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Yeah.

459
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040
And then you're just going to be hearing about it the whole time.

460
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,040
Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

461
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,040
Exactly.

462
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,040
Are we there yet?

463
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:18,040
And so I mean it's, I'm not big on just throwing the kids in front of a tablet or something just to keep them occupied and keep them quiet and out of sight, out of mind.

464
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:26,040
But that is one time when I make that exception, because I think that if I didn't, we would all go crazy.

465
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,040
That's fair.

466
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,040
I think if you're doing road trips, you have to have some kind of like consistent entertainment.

467
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Like when we were growing up, the, we had that like portable DVD player thing with like the extra screen.

468
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:44,040
And I think that was probably the only thing that kept us anywhere near sane driving any long distance.

469
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Well it's funny, because on our way to Shreveport, we stopped at a truck stop and I begged our parents to get us this five inch black and white TV.

470
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,040
Yeah.

471
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,040
That plugged into the cigarette lighter.

472
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,040
I remember that.

473
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,040
And had an antenna.

474
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Yeah.

475
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040
That's how old we are.

476
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,040
I genuinely miss the little portable DVD player.

477
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,040
Don't get me wrong. I don't remember the last time I was in the back seat of a car.

478
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Yeah, it makes me sick. I get nauseous.

479
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040
I don't remember the last time I was in the back seat of a car.

480
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,040
But portable DVD players were like the pinnacle of technology.

481
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,040
They still are.

482
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,040
They are, yeah.

483
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Tablets are not the same.

484
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:33,040
If I have to download a movie off of Netflix to watch it in the car, it takes all of the joy out of it.

485
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,040
You're unhooked. There's no Wi-Fi needed.

486
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040
There's no loading.

487
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,040
There's no waiting.

488
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040
You could be done with something. Just press the button. It pops open.

489
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,040
You take the DVD out. You put the next one in. Boom.

490
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,040
You fall asleep and you listen to the title screen for three hours.

491
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Over and over and over again.

492
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,040
I've done that one a time or several.

493
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,040
Yeah. It definitely has its perks.

494
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:06,040
You're unplugged, so you don't have to worry about being interrupted by anyone outside of the car.

495
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:14,040
You're not being inundated with notifications of all the shit that's going on in the world.

496
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,040
It was a simpler time.

497
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,040
You can completely just zone out and watch the ringer.

498
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Yeah, or Shrek 2.

499
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,040
Or...

500
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:33,040
How the Grinch doll Christmas is the only one I actually specifically remember watching on DVD on Little Portable Thing.

501
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,040
Yeah, I remember that too. We also had Elf.

502
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Oh yeah.

503
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:51,040
We did most of our in-car traveling to Oklahoma, so it was for Christmas.

504
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,040
And so all of our stuff would usually be Christmas-centric.

505
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,040
And typically on Christmas.

506
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Yes. We were the family that traveled on Christmas.

507
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:09,040
Which now sounds like a big old nightmare to be on the roads on Christmas Eve.

508
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Yeah, especially on going to Oklahoma where they actually get winter weather.

509
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:24,040
And usually having to deal with ice or snow or any sort of crappy weather that comes with that.

510
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Do you prefer flying or driving?

511
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,040
So I definitely prefer road trips, but there's a limit.

512
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,040
So we drove up to Branson. Branson was eight hours.

513
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,040
I think my cap is 12.

514
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:41,040
So we drove to... I drove to Denver a couple years ago, and that was fun.

515
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,040
The person that I was with traded off with me at six hours in.

516
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,040
So we went from Dallas to Amarillo, Amarillo to Denver.

517
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,040
But I think anything more than 12 hours is a flight.

518
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Because then you're not going to be able to enjoy the vacation as much

519
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,040
because you're just thinking of how awful it's going to be to get back.

520
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,040
Yeah.

521
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:11,040
But even flying has its headaches with getting back and having to deal with all that stupid nonsense.

522
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040
I have never had a bad experience at an airport.

523
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
No? You've never been frisked?

524
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040
I have not. I've never been randomly selected.

525
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:26,040
I have, I think, always flown at off-peak time, so I've never had to deal with super insane lines.

526
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:33,040
I always... I make sure that all my flights are either early in the morning or late at night.

527
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040
I don't go during the middle of the day.

528
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Yeah. That's the same mentality, though, that I have when I'm driving.

529
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,040
If I'm taking a road trip, I'm leaving at four in the morning.

530
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040
Yeah.

531
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,040
Because I don't want to be on the road when everybody else is on the road, because then I hate road trips.

532
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,040
I always intend to leave super early. It rarely works out that way.

533
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:59,040
But that's another thing that also comes into play when you're traveling with kids, is that you can't leave that early.

534
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:05,040
You can intend to, and you can set everything up to be out the door.

535
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:12,040
You could have the car loaded. You just need to get their butts in their seats, and it's still going to be two hours.

536
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,040
Yeah.

537
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:21,040
And then on top of that, with all the bathroom break stops and all that and having to eat, because I can...

538
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,040
I just drove nine hours, only to stop for gas.

539
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,040
Yeah.

540
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:34,040
And so that would be my kind of road trip, but that's not what I have right now.

541
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,040
I don't have that available to me right now.

542
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,040
That's fair.

543
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,040
To drive nine hours straight.

544
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:48,040
But I also don't know what kind of a headache it would be trying to get three kids onto a plane, either.

545
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040
They've never been on a plane, right? None of them?

546
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,040
No.

547
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Yeah, man, to do first flights, that sounds so stressful.

548
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:09,040
But also the idea of having to manage five people's bladders as the driver sounds optimistically like a headache.

549
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Yeah.

550
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,040
So I'm impressed that you have been able to accomplish any family vacations.

551
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:22,040
We made the drive to Albuquerque with the two of them, and it's a miracle that we didn't have any kind of issues,

552
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,040
because we definitely... I mean, it was not fun.

553
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Yeah.

554
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,040
That was what, 10 hours?

555
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,040
About, yeah.

556
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,040
And that was you three, or you two, mom and the kids?

557
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,040
Yes.

558
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Yeah, which, I mean, we started out late, and then we stopped way more than I wanted to.

559
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:54,040
But, I mean, we got there, and we got there super late at night.

560
00:36:54,040 --> 00:37:01,040
Hotel was all messed up, and so we ended up in this super sketchy hotel for the night.

561
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:09,040
Ended up sleeping there for maybe three hours, got back in the car, and then went to go see the...

562
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,040
The balloons.

563
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040
The lighting of the balloons, yeah, which was cool.

564
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:18,040
And then later on, found out that none of the balloons would take flight because it was too windy.

565
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Yeah, I mean, all in all, I think that I have a...

566
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:34,040
I definitely have a difficult time during, but when I look back at them, I think that I look back at them fondly, usually.

567
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,040
Yeah.

568
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:42,040
Even Albuquerque, like that was a nightmare.

569
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Just getting in so late, hotel reservation being messed up, which I'm the one that messed it up.

570
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040
I didn't plan it right.

571
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:59,040
And the solution I had, because if you've never been to Albuquerque during the balloon fest, it is almost impossible to find a room.

572
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,040
Like, every single hotel room in the city is booked up.

573
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,040
And so the ones that you're going to find if you're trying to get one last minute are places that you wouldn't want to be caught dead in.

574
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,040
There was exposed wires.

575
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,040
There was one outlet for the entire room.

576
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,040
There was a hole punched in one of the walls.

577
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,040
There were stains in the bottom of the bathtub.

578
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Were they red?

579
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Coppery.

580
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Oh.

581
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040
So either rust or blood that had been there for a while.

582
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Cool.

583
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,040
Yeah.

584
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,040
Very cool.

585
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Yeah.

586
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,040
It was some shit had gone down in that room previous to us being there.

587
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Maybe it was Robert and he's just followed you since then.

588
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,040
Were we here?

589
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,040
No, we weren't.

590
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,040
No, you were in separate places.

591
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,040
Yeah, we weren't here.

592
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,040
Yeah.

593
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,040
So how do you feel about Disney world or land, whichever?

594
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,040
I am very anti-Disney.

595
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,040
I think the fandom is...

596
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,040
You think the Disney adults ruined it all?

597
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Disney adults ruined a lot of it, for sure.

598
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,040
I understand the Disney adult mentality.

599
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,040
I think so much of that is trying to reclaim a childhood either because you didn't get one.

600
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Yeah.

601
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Or you are just like stuck in that like nostalgia loop.

602
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Yeah.

603
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Which either way, to each their own, love what you love.

604
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,040
But at the same time, understand you suck to be around.

605
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Yes, when that's your entire personality.

606
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,040
And I mean, it doesn't even have to be Disney.

607
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,040
It could be whatever you base your entire personality around.

608
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:50,040
If that's the only thing that you think makes you interesting, then you are not someone that is fun to be around.

609
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Right.

610
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:58,040
And so I wouldn't go to Disney as just myself.

611
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:08,040
I wouldn't go as just the one adult or the pair of adults because I do recognize that that's so much more of a family thing.

612
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:13,040
I would maybe go as a group if I could find a couple of other adults that were willing to go.

613
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Because I think that would make it fun.

614
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,040
And you would be willing to brave a lot of the stuff.

615
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
But it's just so expensive.

616
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,040
And I can't possibly imagine that the experience that you get is worth it.

617
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:31,040
I don't understand how it's just it goes up and up and up and up.

618
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Like I've been looking into it.

619
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,040
And I mean, it's not anything that I would do in the next two years.

620
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:47,040
Like kids are going to need to be old enough to remember all of it and to understand that this is like a once in a lifetime thing.

621
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,040
This isn't going to happen every year.

622
00:40:50,040 --> 00:41:06,040
And I just I cannot fathom why a vacation for two adults, three kids would have to be ten, fifteen thousand dollars.

623
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,040
That's insane.

624
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,040
And that on top of all the other stuff that Disney is doing.

625
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,040
And that's not even the political stuff.

626
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040
Like political stuff is annoying.

627
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,040
Like just make stuff that people want to see.

628
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:29,040
But it's more the raising the prices, but then diminishing the product.

629
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Yeah.

630
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,040
So like they take stuff away.

631
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,040
They take stuff that was free, stuff that was this price.

632
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,040
They raise the price of the overall thing.

633
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,040
And then they take away this free stuff and then charge you separately for it.

634
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
What is what is like the base rate?

635
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Like what would you be paying for just tickets into the park for Disney?

636
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,040
If you want to.

637
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,040
OK, you want to do a four day pass for all four Disney World parks.

638
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:10,040
So you got Epcot, you got Disney World, you got Animal Kingdom, you got Epcot, Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom.

639
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Is it Hollywood Studios?

640
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,040
I have no idea.

641
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,040
What is it called?

642
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,040
I don't remember if that's what it used to be called or that's what it's called now.

643
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:22,040
But ninety nine dollars per person per day.

644
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,040
That's actually not as bad as I thought it would be.

645
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,040
So you're looking at four hundred dollars for four days.

646
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040
This is only park admission.

647
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,040
This isn't hotel.

648
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,040
This isn't food.

649
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,040
This isn't anything else.

650
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,040
Yeah.

651
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,040
So you have two adults, you're already paying eight hundred dollars just to get in.

652
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,040
Yeah.

653
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,040
For four days.

654
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,040
That's God, I don't like that.

655
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:52,040
I've been desensitized to the point that that doesn't sound like as much as I expected it to be.

656
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,040
Eight hundred dollars for just the adult.

657
00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:00,040
And then you're paying food somewhere around the park.

658
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:08,040
If you're not paying in the park, it's going to have a Disney tax on it because it's close to Disney World.

659
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:13,040
You're going to pay for transportation that's going to have the Disney tax on it because it's close to Disney World.

660
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,040
You're going to have a hotel even if you don't stay on property.

661
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:24,040
You're still going to be paying more than you would pay somewhere else in Orlando because of its vicinity to or its proximity to Disney World.

662
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040
And so all that stuff adds up.

663
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:32,040
I just I cannot under I can't wrap my head around these families that go there every year.

664
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:45,040
There was a while when I was back on Facebook that like things would pop up on my feed and it was always these like tips and tricks people that could like help you budget out a trip to Disney.

665
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,040
Yeah.

666
00:43:46,040 --> 00:44:00,040
And the amount of stress in just the idea of the things that they were telling me like I'm sure you would save a decent amount of money, but the amount of stress that it would cause to be like I have this broken down to the dollar and we need to spend this, this and this.

667
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Like that's not I don't have kids.

668
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,040
I don't know.

669
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,040
I guess for sure that that's how that works.

670
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040
That's not how kids work.

671
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:12,040
They're going to need things that are expensive or they're going to throw a fit and you're going to want to save your vacation.

672
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,040
You're just going to pay for the extra thing.

673
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:25,040
I can't imagine going through that level of planning for a vacation and being able to enjoy it at any capacity.

674
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,040
No, I mean, we have vacations now that don't cost anywhere near that much.

675
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:39,040
And it's still when you break it all down afterwards, you're just you feel just not good.

676
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,040
Yeah.

677
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:59,040
And it's just that's why I have that's why I justify it by saying, OK, but so in lieu of a thing in lieu of this item that you're only going to use for however long, then we're going to do this.

678
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,040
That money is going to go towards this and this will be something you remember.

679
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,040
We'll get pictures and all that other stuff.

680
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:14,040
That is the only way to justify all of it, because if not, then it's just going to be it's drive yourself crazy.

681
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:22,040
And I mean, I think it would be a lot easier for for your type of situation for two incomes, no kids.

682
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:31,040
But still, I mean, when you step back and think about all the the other things, all of that money could have gone to.

683
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Yeah.

684
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,040
It's just hard to justify.

685
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,040
But then you end up getting in a rut because you don't want to spend the money, but you feel like you need to to get out.

686
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:45,040
You need that release and you need to get a change of scenery for a little bit.

687
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,040
We were actually in that situation this week.

688
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:55,040
So we got invited to a cruise left out of Fort Lauderdale at the end of next month.

689
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:05,040
And we were doing all of the math on it and trying to figure out like, yeah, we know it's close to the move, but we're in a decent enough financial space that we would be able to afford it.

690
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,040
It wouldn't be terrible.

691
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:22,040
And when we were doing the math and stuff, I could see that it was I don't have the same perspective on money as I used to, because when I was younger, I used to stockpile it because the idea of something happening

692
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,040
always threatened to break me.

693
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:31,040
But I've gotten a lot better at spending money wisely.

694
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:42,040
And the longer that we talked about it and the logistics of getting out to Fort Lauderdale, getting on the cruise, getting back all of that stuff, I could tell with every dollar that we were spending, it was stressing him out more and more.

695
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:48,040
And I knew that it was going to be us getting on that vacation that he agreed to go and probably didn't want to.

696
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:59,040
And then he was just miserable the whole time because we had spent so much money that you have to have this like, it has to be this level of fun to justify the fact that I just spent this much money.

697
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,040
Yeah, you have to squeeze this much enjoyment out of it in order to make it worthwhile.

698
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Right.

699
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Yeah.

700
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:12,040
And that's just it's I don't think I would ever be able to go to Disney without that kind of mentality.

701
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:18,040
I don't either. Like I'm spending 10 grand. This better be the best thing I've done in my whole life.

702
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,040
It's crazy what we're required to do for vacations these days.

703
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,040
I say like I've ever had any alternative but.

704
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Well, I think that this is a result of a social media culture because I mean, I don't I don't post on I don't post on social media stuff outside of stuff for this podcast.

705
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:57,040
But you just you have this feeling that you have to keep up with the Joneses with what you're seeing other people doing like you think that what they're doing is what you should be doing.

706
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:20,040
And so you need to meet or or one up. And so I think that that is a major thing that has come out of that has just skyrocketed the cost of all this stuff is the fact that if they can get one person to do it, then they'll post it.

707
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:27,040
They'll talk about it. They'll do all this other stuff. And then they're going to bring in three other people that have seen this.

708
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:34,040
They want this. They want to have these pictures to post whatever say that they did this thing.

709
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:44,040
And then that's going to reach out to even more people. And so they know that if they can get in that initial initial crowd, then it's just going to grow exponentially.

710
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:52,040
And it's not going to matter what they charge. Yeah, because people are going to find a way to justify it. Yeah, I I also don't understand those people.

711
00:48:52,040 --> 00:49:00,040
I don't I don't know if that's maybe a thing because I don't have kids. If you're not like that, then I guess it's it's not a thing.

712
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:08,040
But like the people that go on vacation specifically to take pictures like I I I don't ever have my phone on vacation.

713
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:16,040
I'll take like a handful of pictures maybe just as like a thing that my phone will pop back up in a year. Yeah.

714
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:25,040
But I I do my best to stay away from my phone because I just I don't want to do the same things that make me miserable here but elsewhere.

715
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Yeah, like I don't see any kind of merit in that and spending all of my time on my phone, but in a place that I'm paying to be.

716
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:39,040
I could be doing this on my couch. Yeah, I'm I'm opposite of that. I'll I'll take pictures like crazy. I think I get that from our dad.

717
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:45,040
But I don't take them to post them anywhere. Yeah, they're there for me. I'll send them to family. Yeah, I'll send them.

718
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Hey, look what happened here. If it's a funny picture, then I'll I'll send it out. Yeah, but I'm not going to post it anywhere to get satisfaction from people that I don't care about in any other aspect of my life.

719
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Yeah, I mean, it's I'm sure it's different if it's done with the right intentions, if it's not you just living life through your phone needing like the perfect picture and all of that stuff.

720
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:24,040
If it's like actually you just getting like candidates or actual just regular pictures of the kids. Yeah, it's the people that spend their whole time needing to retake the same picture 15 times because it just didn't this thing didn't look right.

721
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Not even necessarily for posting it because I get a little bit particular if my picture is taken.

722
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:39,040
But but I also like if I'm on vacation, take a picture of me if it's good and cool. If it's not cool. I tell the Mrs.

723
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,040
You have two chances where you get a genuine smile.

724
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:52,040
If you can't take it in those two chances, then yeah, you're you're going to get something that looks real goofy.

725
00:50:52,040 --> 00:51:07,040
I am because I hate having to stop down doing what we're doing and have to take this staged picture. If it's a picture, if it's a candid like it's just while me while I'm doing something, if it's one of the kids while they're just doing something.

726
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:16,040
Those are my favorite ones. Yeah, I hate the ones that are like, okay, stand here. Smile, smile, open your eyes, smile. Yeah, those I hate those.

727
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:23,040
If you tell me to smile reflexively, I will be so angry that the picture you take of me will not look good.

728
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:30,040
And I understand that that is what she needs. And so I make the compromise.

729
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:36,040
I give her two chances if she can't do it in those two chances, if she can't make it work in those two chances.

730
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,040
Okay, we'll move on. We'll try again later.

731
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:54,040
So we have a Facebook portal, I think it's like a one of those like smart frame thingies. Oh, yeah, we can like video call and all that stuff.

732
00:51:54,040 --> 00:52:00,040
We've had it in our closet for the longest time, and it got set up today.

733
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:05,040
And we realized that I could not tell you the last picture that we took together.

734
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:11,040
Is there something that some instigating reason why you dug it out of the closet and set it up?

735
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,040
We were just doing some some cleaning. Oh, you just happened to rediscover it?

736
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Yeah, like I don't think that we've taken a picture together.

737
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Probably like a year, except for the ones like the.

738
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,040
Oh, no, I guess we didn't take any pictures together at Pabes. Yeah, no.

739
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Well, that makes sense because neither of you are very sentimental people.

740
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,040
That's definitely not true. That's not.

741
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,040
I mean, I mean, I'm not saying that you have a bad relationship.

742
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:47,040
I'm just saying that that kind of stuff isn't a priority for your relationship.

743
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:58,040
Yeah, like documenting, documenting your goings on and posting them and letting people know what you're doing.

744
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:05,040
I so I'm more sentimental when it comes to like random memorabilia, I think I collect like ticket stubs,

745
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,040
which it makes me real sad that we don't get ticket stubs for anything anymore.

746
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,040
But like now, if I give gifts and it's a can. Yeah, you can.

747
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Yeah, I'm not paying extra for it because I've gotten ticket master tickets that have required me to like.

748
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,040
No, you you just go for will call.

749
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,040
No French about tickets. OK, that's what I do.

750
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:33,040
Most times when I'm doing something, I'll just I'll do will call instead of that's usually an option that you can choose online.

751
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:39,040
OK. And then sometimes you can buy directly from the venue and avoid all those stupid fees, too.

752
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,040
So there's another quick fact for you. I will keep that in mind.

753
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,040
But I keep yeah, I keep ticket stubs. I keep like playbills and stuff like that.

754
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,040
Yeah, that's the kind of like sentimentality I have.

755
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:57,040
And I think a lot of that comes from the fact that I don't like getting my picture taken necessarily.

756
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:03,040
Yeah, because I was forced into so many pictures growing up that now I'm just I'm kind of burnt out on it.

757
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,040
So it's like a psychosis for both of us. Yes, absolutely.

758
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Because I could tell you all of the pictures from I'm going to say like 10 to 18 when I stopped cooperating for all the pictures that I was requested.

759
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Yeah, I think I started flipping that off in pictures.

760
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:32,040
I did it a couple of times and he got so mad at me. I got the silent treatment and again, it was definitely recommend.

761
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:39,040
But yeah, like I'm not I'm not the biggest picture person because I was forced to take so many of them.

762
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,040
And so I know that even now, my reflex is to do the hostage smile.

763
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:50,040
The like, I'm you can tell it's not genuine. Anyone that sees the picture knows that it's not genuine.

764
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:58,040
And so I would rather just sidestep it in general and just keep the other things that happen or the other things that we get from it.

765
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:04,040
Yeah, I like state fair tickets and stuff from like Grapefest and all of that.

766
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Yeah, I don't I see a picture. I mean, I don't ever like it. Yeah.

767
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Yeah, it's. Hmm. That's not much should have gone to therapy for.

768
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,040
Thanks a lot, Dad.

769
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:28,040
So if you're thinking about going for a low key vacation, a couple of days, nothing crazy.

770
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,040
What would you do?

771
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:40,040
So outside of necessarily the scope of like family vacations, vacations in general.

772
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,040
All of my favorite vacations have been outdoors.

773
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:49,040
For one thing, they're inexpensive, so I never have to worry about the amount of money that I'm spending.

774
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:55,040
I usually spend like a whole bunch of money on gas and food on the drive.

775
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Yeah. And that's kind of the only thing I'll have to worry about.

776
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,040
I like vacations where you can unplug. And so camping is my absolute favorite thing to do.

777
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:10,040
If I have like a window of time, I want to go camping. Yeah.

778
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:18,040
And and like, I guess having the conversation that we were having earlier about like the the things that kind of like make and break a vacation,

779
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:28,040
the the things that go wrong in camping because they're just like like every time that I've gone camping, it's rained.

780
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,040
We the last time that we went to Broken Bow, Oklahoma, we were there for like four days.

781
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:42,040
It stormed so bad on one of the days that one of the one of the tents, a couple like spaces over from us blew into the water.

782
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:51,040
It was just floating. People had to bring out their kayaks to go like paddle over and retrieve these people's tent.

783
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:57,040
And that is still one of my favorite vacations because, first of all, we stayed dry.

784
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:03,040
And it was just that's just kind of what happens when you go camping. Yeah.

785
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:11,040
It was realistically should have been a lot more careful with the weather, but I have no regrets about it.

786
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:20,040
I got I got rained out when I went camping with a friend of mine a couple of years ago and we slid a little bit down a mountain.

787
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:27,040
Not super, super far, but we moved like you got caught in a mudslide.

788
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:33,040
It was raining so bad that, yeah, like our tent was sort of flooding and it moved a little.

789
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,040
Then you just hydroplained down the hill. We hydroplained. Yeah.

790
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,040
That was still a whole lot of fun.

791
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:50,040
We like I think there's no there's no expectations when it comes to to vacationing outside.

792
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:58,040
You have no control over the situation aside from the fact that you can Google the weather and I for some reason never do.

793
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:09,040
Yeah. But it's so nice to be able to just be so far away from all of the little things in your day to day.

794
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:15,040
Yeah. Like when you get so far out that you don't even have any signal. Yeah, that's that's pretty nice.

795
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:20,040
That hasn't happened to me in a long time. And I'm camping with us with the kids.

796
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,040
It does make it a little more difficult to be that unplugged.

797
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:34,040
But yeah, I would I would love to just not have to worry about that kind of stuff, not have to worry about being contacted by anyone except for the people I'm there with.

798
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Yeah. I think we were there for four days and the only thing I have used my phone for was I took pictures at the very beginning of like our campsite and stuff.

799
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:55,040
It was gorgeous out there. I took a picture of like the next morning and then we played music on our speaker and that was it.

800
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:03,040
Other than that, I did not check an email, a text message, didn't answer a phone call. It was awesome.

801
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:09,040
What is what is your favorite vacation or like your ideal vacation?

802
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:15,040
I don't know if it's ideal, but it's our go to.

803
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:26,040
If we have I don't know, so we have a four day weekend and don't have anything too pressing to do that we have to get done here.

804
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:31,040
We'll go down to the coast. We'll go down to usually Galveston, sometimes Corpus.

805
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,040
I don't recommend it if you're not from Texas.

806
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:42,040
You're not a Texas Beach person because it makes sense for people in Texas to go to Corpus or Galveston.

807
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:48,040
But Charles Barkley notoriously has a problem with Galveston because it does.

808
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:58,040
It sucks. It is. We went to Pensacola a couple months ago and that is an actual beach and that has actual sand.

809
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:05,040
And that is you actually feel like you are in the Gulf.

810
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:14,040
And yeah, so if you have been to a beach literally anywhere else, if you've been to the Jersey Shore,

811
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,040
if you've been to any beach in Florida, if you've been to any beach in California,

812
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:26,040
I do not recommend coming down to Texas in order to give one of our beaches a try.

813
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Unless you're going to South Padre, but then you're not going there for the beach anyways.

814
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Yeah, that's fair.

815
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,040
You're going there to party and you don't care what the beach is like.

816
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,040
I also went to Padre with our father.

817
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,040
Yeah?

818
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:48,040
That was, I don't swim, so that's also not necessarily my ideal vacation.

819
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:53,040
But yeah, Texas beaches are fun for a day.

820
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,040
Yeah.

821
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,040
It's fun to just like be away.

822
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:07,040
Yeah, and be close enough that you can come home if you needed to, if something came up or anything like that.

823
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:13,040
But we made the drive to Pensacola. It wasn't fun.

824
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:20,040
And it's definitely not something that we could have done straight if we had had the kids with us.

825
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:25,040
It would definitely be something that we would have to split into two days.

826
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:34,040
And so you're taking this trip that maybe you have four days for and say you have five days.

827
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:40,040
So you've got two days that you're using to get there.

828
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,040
You enjoy a day there and then you have two days to drive back.

829
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,040
Yeah, that sounds like way more hassle than it's worth.

830
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:53,040
Yeah, and so that's the main reason that whenever we tell the kids, hey, we're going to go to the beach,

831
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,040
they know that we're going to Galveston.

832
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,040
And it also helps that they haven't seen a real beach.

833
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,040
Oh, yeah, that's going to really shatter that illusion.

834
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:07,040
It's going to, their heads are going to explode when they see a real beach for the first time.

835
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:13,040
Yeah, that's, do you have plans to go with them kind of in like the eventuality to?

836
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:19,040
I'd love to go back to Pensacola or somewhere in Florida.

837
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,040
I've heard amazing things about Destin.

838
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:27,040
I've never been to Florida, so I couldn't tell you if that's true.

839
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,040
But I've heard Destin is the place to be.

840
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:38,040
Yeah, I mean, there's people that work their whole lives away just for a timeshare down in Destin.

841
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:45,040
Well, if we're going off timeshare rules, I don't know that anyone's the winner there.

842
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:51,040
Work your life off for a timeshare in Missouri.

843
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,040
They tried to sell us real hard on a timeshare in Missouri.

844
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,040
That was a Taylor Swift reference.

845
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,040
Was it?

846
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,040
For the song Florida.

847
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,040
Wow.

848
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,040
Yeah, if you don't have anything else.

849
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,040
Nope, that's all I had.

850
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:11,040
To add for this one, then go ahead.

851
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,040
Peace out, Carl Scouts.

852
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:21,040
And just remember, it costs absolutely nothing to not be an asshole.

853
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,040
See you later.

854
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:47,040
See you later.

855
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,040
Bye.