1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Hello everyone and welcome to my podcast, The Researchers Roundtable. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,960 I am Prakash Kumar and I am thrilled to be your host. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,360 I am a full-time postdoc at Durham University, UK. 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,480 In this podcast series, we will interact and interview the most incredible researchers 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,040 from all around the world. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:36,840 Last week, UK celebrated postdoc appreciation week 2024 from 16-20 September. 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,760 Keeping this in mind, we are bringing to you some of the postdoc interviews and knowing 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,800 better about their experience and journey to the science. 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:53,200 In this first episode, we have a postdoc, Jawah Singh from Sainsbury-Raboudry, Cambridge 10 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,200 University, UK. 11 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Hi Prakash, thank you for having me here. 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,960 So Jawah, I will start our interview with this question. 13 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,960 What inspired you to pursue a career in plant science? 14 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:15,640 Okay, so I will take two minutes to go back to the background of how I came to the plant 15 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,720 sciences. 16 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:22,640 So when I was a child, we used to go to our villages during the summer season, summer 17 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,640 vacation of the school. 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,520 So I used to go to the fields in my village and I used to see farmer applying a lot of 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,480 fertilizer in the field of the cereals like wheat or rice. 20 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,800 But when you see legumes filled, farmer don't apply fertilizer. 21 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:45,960 So I asked my uncles in the field that why the farmer in the wheat are applying fertilizer 22 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:49,720 but not in the legumes like chickpea. 23 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,720 So from there, I come to know about the legumes from nodules and this nodules are the house 24 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,320 of the rhizobia, particular kind of bacteria and this rhizobia in the nodules fixes atmospheric 25 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:10,160 nitrogen and this nitrogen in the legumes root nodules are known as the nitrogen fertilizer. 26 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,720 So legumes form their own nitrogen fertilizer in their nitrogen fertilizer factory which 27 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,880 is the nodule. 28 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,160 So from there, I got an inspiration to do something, some research in the legumes and 29 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,680 to extrapolate this nodule biology, the nodule from the root of the legumes to the cereal 30 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,920 crops like wheat and rice so that we don't have to apply this fertilizer in the cereal 31 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,600 crops and we can get rid of this dependency on the nitrogen fertilizer and then we can 32 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,080 have benefit of the legumes having the root nodulation. 33 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,800 This was my whole motivation that bring me into the plant science and now I am trying 34 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,880 to achieve those motivation here in the sense where I live at the University of Cambridge. 35 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Coming back to another question that I am going to ask you Jorhar, so what was the most 36 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,360 exciting thing about your PSD journey? 37 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:12,800 So I started my PSD back in 2016 from India, there is an institute known as National Institute 38 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,600 of Plant Genome Research, in short we say NIPGR, it is a New Delhi, it is just next 39 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,120 to the JNU campus, Johan and Nehru University and we are an institute which was affiliated 40 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,120 to the JNU. 41 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:31,720 So there I worked on the chickpea, one of the legumes, major legumes that is grown in 42 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,200 India and widely consumed by all around people in India. 43 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,720 So I worked on the chickpea nodulation, I was trying to find out the signaling molecule 44 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:49,200 that is important for chickpea root nodulation and have identified the some receptors and 45 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,360 some signaling molecule which is important for the nodule formation of the chickpea and 46 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,400 if we knock out we will have a very very less nodulation and if we over express then we 47 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,400 will have the more nodule. 48 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:06,800 So that was the work that I did back in India during my PSD days that working on the chickpea 49 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,280 nodulation and why I did my PSD in the chickpea because chickpea is important. 50 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,960 We grow, we are the largest producer, if you talk about the India India is the largest producer 51 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,360 of chickpea but still India import a lot of chickpea from the outside. 52 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:29,480 So there is a need to improve the chickpea products and I was thinking that root nodulation 53 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,960 in the chickpea working on the root nodulation of chickpea can be one of the way by which 54 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:39,520 we can improve the nitrogen fixes in the chickpea and we can reduce importing chickpea from 55 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,120 outside of the country and we can get more yield in the chickpea. 56 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,960 This was the thing that I was doing back in India for my PSD. 57 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:58,480 So you did your PSD and if I am not mistaken in India we have a 4 to 6 years of PSD which 58 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,240 is quite a long time you know. 59 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,840 So what things matter according to you when choosing a PSD program? 60 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,560 So you are right in India PSD is sometimes tough. 61 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:17,720 So finding a good guide is the first step and your institute should be well funded. 62 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:24,000 If you have a good guide, good supervisor, PSD supervisor then it is very good and it 63 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,520 depends on your luck whether you are going to have a good guide or not. 64 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,560 So and then the topic of interest if you are getting a topic of research which is of your 65 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,400 interest then you are happy. 66 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,360 If suppose you have a good guide and a good topic that you are interested in working for 67 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,680 your PSD as well as after the PSD for the postdoc and then starting your own career then it 68 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,680 is very good. 69 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,400 It is like 100 out of 100 that you have a very good guide, you have a very good institute 70 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,920 and you have got the topic that you are looking to invest your whole life. 71 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,600 So that is the perfect thing but these are the perfect situation but it does not happen 72 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,000 all the time. 73 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,160 You may get some guide which are very nasty that you never want to meet them again after 74 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,400 a PSD. 75 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,240 So you have to work out with that. 76 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:18,000 You have to be like, you have to be very adjustable in that sense and then you should have very 77 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,520 good friends during the PSD. 78 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,600 The role of the friends are very important. 79 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:29,960 If you have a good friends then it can help you to boost your motivation, your energy. 80 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,040 It can help you to survive. 81 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,720 I would love to use the word survive. 82 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,760 PSD is all about surviving those 5 to 6 years. 83 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,960 So having a good friend will certainly help you. 84 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,320 So have a good friend. 85 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Try to make a good friend in your PSD time. 86 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Jor, next I would love to know how did you maintain your work-life balance while you 87 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 are doing your PSD? 88 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,960 So this is also a very important question that I think all the newcomers who are coming 89 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:01,840 to the PSD or the research would know. 90 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:05,200 So when I started my PSD, I got into the running. 91 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,760 I got into the marathon running. 92 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:12,680 So I used to run, suppose my lab was from 9.30 morning to 5.30 in the evening. 93 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,520 So after 5.30 I used to come to the room, I used to get freshen up and then I used to 94 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:23,000 go to the JN Uchohalanaharu University stadium where I used to spend like 1 hour to 1 hour 95 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 and 30 minutes running, walking. 96 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,840 So this was my daily routine. 97 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Spending time out of the lab in the nature. 98 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,600 In the evening time it was very pleasant. 99 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:42,080 So that was one of the things that I was doing throughout my PSD that walking in the nature 100 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,560 for 1 and a half hour and I ran lots of marathon. 101 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,680 So this was the another thing that kept me motivated. 102 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Wow, yeah, that's right. 103 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,600 So you finished your PSD in 2021 or 2022? 104 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,600 22. 105 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,600 22. 106 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Then what was the next step? 107 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Because after PSD we don't have any job. 108 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Yeah. 109 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,000 For like, what was the struggle for getting a post job and how frequently you got the 110 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,720 opportunities to go for interview and all. 111 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Do you have any experience? 112 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,120 Like it was a quick or it was a more struggle. 113 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Yeah, so after finishing the PSD getting a post job sometime gets tough. 114 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:27,280 So what I had done before, even before submitting my thesis, I started looking for the supervisors 115 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,080 with whom I can work for my post job. 116 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:36,680 So I submitted my thesis in December 2021 and then my Viva in June 2022. 117 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:41,880 But before submitting my thesis in 2021, I started looking for the positions for the 118 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,280 researchers for the professor with whom I can work. 119 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,680 So I looked into the different labs all around the world and then I found a professor in 120 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:57,840 the Mexico in the university named as Unam Autonomous National University of Mexico. 121 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,920 There is a professor known as Osvaldo Valdez Lopez. 122 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,360 He's a Mexican guy and he's a very good guy. 123 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:10,360 I must recommend anyone working on the root nodulation to must talk and if you are getting 124 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,440 a chance to work with Osvaldo, go ahead and go work with him. 125 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,720 You'll get a very good experience as a scientist and as well as a human being. 126 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,720 He's a nice guy. 127 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:28,440 So after finishing my PhD, I went to Mexico to do my root nodulation research on another 128 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,000 legume that is common bean. 129 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Now common bean is another important legume for the Mexico. 130 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:42,240 So I worked on the common bean root nodulation in Mexico with Professor Osvaldo Valdez Lopez. 131 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,960 So Joahar, what is your post-doc story for finally landing the San Sperry laboratory 132 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,280 at Cambridge University? 133 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:58,560 So after finishing my one year of research with Professor Osvaldo Valdez Lopez in Mexico, 134 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:05,440 I was looking to use my knowledge of nodulation and the basic research what I have done in 135 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,040 my PhD and the first post-doc. 136 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:13,200 So I wanted to use this knowledge to create some transonic which may have a higher nitrogen 137 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,400 fixes and ability. 138 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,720 So I looked into a University of Cambridge website where we have the career page where 139 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,360 you can see the different opportunities, the open positions. 140 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:30,680 So I looked into the page and I found that my current boss Dr. Sebastian Saunak is having 141 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:37,480 an open position where he wanted to hire a post-doc who have experience on working on 142 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,480 the nodulation. 143 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,640 So I wrote to him, I applied him and he was very happy and very excited to have him in 144 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,720 the group and now here I am in the San Sperry laboratory, University of Cambridge working 145 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,840 on the legumes trying to improve the nitrogen fixation in the legumes. 146 00:10:52,840 --> 00:11:00,640 So Jwaha, how did you see yourself as a post-doc and what kind of things you have learned from 147 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,000 your colleagues during this period? 148 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:10,240 So first thing I would like to agree with you that PhD is a kind of a training where 149 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,120 we used to meet our supervisor, PhD supervisor regularly. 150 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,960 We used to have some seniors who are going to help us in our research experiments and 151 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,040 we have a guide who is going to monitor us on a regular basis we can say. 152 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,400 But then the post-doc, the things change and change a lot. 153 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,960 So when, so the things I realized about the post-doc when I went to the Mexico, there 154 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:42,240 I got a boss, my professor Oswaldo Valdez-Ropegi and from there I learned that the PhD and 155 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,560 the post-doc are quite different. 156 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,160 So in the post-doc you are independent. 157 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:52,240 So it is not the UK but I'll say it is a Mexico where I learned the skills that you 158 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:59,080 should have as a post-doc to be independent and then I carried that skill back in UK. 159 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,720 So I think that helped me a lot and you are right. 160 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,960 It is like independent. 161 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:10,000 You are just like your any other colleague, your supervisor, your supervisor, your co-colleague. 162 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,640 So you have to think independently and you have to go ahead independent with your research. 163 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,640 Wow. 164 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:32,120 So Johar according to you, how do you explain the role of collaboration in scientific area 165 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:41,560 or in your research field when you came to UK and back there in Mexico but specifically 166 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:44,360 regarding this project where you are working. 167 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Yeah, collaboration is very important. 168 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Collaboration is a very important part of the research here. 169 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,360 So I am a part of a bigger project known as the INSA. 170 00:12:54,360 --> 00:13:00,720 INSA is a research project led by Professor Giles Aldroyd who is the current director 171 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,600 of the Crop Science Center here in the University of Cambridge. 172 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:10,800 So INSA stands for Enabling Nutrient Symbiosis for Agriculture and in the INSA we have around 173 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:17,600 50 great scientists working on the nitrogen fixation and the AM symbiosis. 174 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,800 The goal is to improve the nutrient acquisition. 175 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,120 So this project is all about the collaboration. 176 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,680 So we are into a very collaborative research project where you can understand. 177 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:36,040 We have 7 to 8 different countries and we are member of 50 researchers working on the 178 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,400 single goal that is achieving the sustainability. 179 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:46,240 We want to improve the crop by achieving the sustainable nutrient acquisition. 180 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Wow, yeah that was the scientific aspect of your career. 181 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:59,760 If I come to close to your personal one, like how you maintain your life work balance because 182 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,520 you have a family, you are living in a country away from your hometown India. 183 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:12,000 So how you see as a person how you have developed yourself 10 years ago when you were in India 184 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 and now? 185 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Yeah, so the first thing that I would like to say is when you come out of India you get 186 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,600 closer to your friends and family. 187 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,800 If you have some friend back in India then you will try to talk with them on a regular 188 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,600 basis over phone call or over WhatsApp call or whatever it may be. 189 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,600 And suppose if you are married then you will have your family here, your wife and your kids 190 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,960 then the bonding between you and your friends and family get closer. 191 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,960 That is the first thing which I can relate as you say about this question. 192 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:49,600 So I think as you move away from your country your bonding with your friends and family 193 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,920 gets stronger and stronger and that helps you to sustain actually. 194 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,160 That is very important. 195 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:00,040 Yeah, that's important. 196 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:08,480 So next I am coming to the same point like why the diversity of the people in a registered 197 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:15,800 or in any lab matters and how that saves our understanding the world better. 198 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:21,200 So if you talk about the diversity here in the Sainsbury laboratory, University of Cambridge, 199 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,480 we have a people from all around the world in our group, in our team. 200 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:32,320 If we say we have people from UK, from Germany, from India, from France and if you look in 201 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:40,840 the institute, SLC you will find the people from Israel, from your Cyprus, from France, 202 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,800 all around Mexico, Chile, Argentina. 203 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:50,640 So it is a very, very international environment in the SLCU where you meet people from the 204 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,960 different country, different cultural background, different personal background and then you 205 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,240 talk about the different things. 206 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:03,640 So I think having a different perspective of on the same thing or on the different thing 207 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,640 is very important for the personal growth. 208 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:12,120 So I think coming to the SLCU and seeing this international environment was very, very much 209 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,560 motivating and something very new as we are in India, we are only some of the Indian people 210 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:24,360 but when you go out you see people from all around the world and living happily working 211 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,200 toward a single goal so it is really fascinating. 212 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,760 So Johar what kind of advice would you like to give the new postdoc fellow who is looking 213 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,240 career in the science? 214 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,480 So for a postdoc I will say in a PhD you have done a good research and I am looking for a 215 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:48,480 postdoc and postdoc is the time duration where you will do a research and then you look for 216 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,600 a, you are going to looking for a position, PI position, an independent group leader position. 217 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,840 So the postdoc position should be very good, the boss should be very supportive and the 218 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:05,440 position should be such that you can get that strength and the publication and everything 219 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,240 so that you can apply for a PI position. 220 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,880 Back in suppose if you are from India we are going to apply for a PI position in India 221 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,080 or if you are from another country then you will try to move back to the same your original 222 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,640 country, country of origin. 223 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:27,360 So I think having a very good postdoc institute and a very good boss as well as the research 224 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:28,480 project is very important. 225 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,520 Yeah, that I agree. 226 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:39,280 So Johar I will again come to the very final question. 227 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:49,360 What are your future goals and where you look yourself in the future after this postdoc 228 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:50,800 or maybe another postdoc? 229 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Yeah, so the future goal if I talk about the future goal the first or the nearby goal for 230 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,240 me is to improve the crop legume. 231 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:05,120 I am working here on the soybean and the cowpea two important, ergonomically important crop 232 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:06,120 legumes. 233 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:11,640 I am trying to improve the nitrogen fixation by improving the nodule symbiosis. 234 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,840 I want to have a higher protein content in the seed. 235 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:20,400 So first that is my first goal that is having the higher protein content in the seed of 236 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,520 the soybean and the cowpea and then looking for the position back in India. 237 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 So that is ultimate goal. 238 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,480 That is the final goal that you should get some position back in India and then you can 239 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,400 start your own lab working on the nodulation. 240 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:39,360 You can hire the young minds and then together you can achieve the higher goal of having 241 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:46,040 the final goal is to have the cereals which can have the nodules and the rhizobia and 242 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,880 you don't have to apply the nitrogen fertilizer. 243 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,880 That is the final goal. 244 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,400 It seems like we are using a lot of pesticides, herbicides, chemical fertilizers which is 245 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,560 somehow disrupting our health, not only our health but soil health also which you don't 246 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,760 talk about and nowadays mostly people are thinking about organic food and all. 247 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,280 So this concept brings something which is organic farming. 248 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,000 You are not applying a lot of chemicals but you are still growing those crops which has 249 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,680 the impact in the society. 250 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,680 Okay. 251 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:19,160 So Joahar thank you so much for coming to our podcast and being our guest and sharing 252 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:25,600 your thoughts and experience a wonderful journey from India to Mexico, Mexico to UK and I'm 253 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:31,640 looking forward for adventure findings from your work. 254 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,120 So Joahar thank you so much for coming to our podcast. 255 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,120 Thank you. 256 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,120 Hello guys. 257 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:43,400 So that was Joahar saying he is a postdoc at Sainsbury Laboratory Cambridge University. 258 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,280 So I will see you in the next episode with a new person, a new story, a new journey from 259 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,280 another postdoc. 260 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,280 So stay tuned. 261 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,000 I will see you in the next episode. 262 00:19:53,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Bye.