Hello, everybody, and welcome. This is Dr. Phillips.
We're almost to the holidays here. I know. But
I love having guests, but I also love having
you here just talking to us. For those of you
who joined us the first time, this is Soul Decodes.
I'm with Sarah Thierry. Hello everyone, nice
to be back. Good to see your smiley face. Thanks
for joining us last weekend at a little gathering.
Yeah, that was great. It was fun. Good food.
Thanks for bringing some. Yeah, that was a hit.
I bought, what were they called? Maduros, which
are plantains. And they just get sticky and sweet
when you cook them. But people were fighting
over them. They really were. They were really
good though. I just thought they were delicious.
Probably good for you, right? Anything that comes
in a skin shell, right? or some casing, God's
provided that. Kind of like people. We come in.
We have skins and some of us have shells. Husks.
Husks. So I think a plantain, it has to be good
for you because it's provided by nature for us
and we're supposed to be eating plants, aren't
we? Not meat. And a lot of people, they deep
fry them though so it kind of offsets them. Well,
you could pan fry them in plant -based butter.
Well, there you go. They still get very sticky.
Some of those plant -based butters are as bad
as... Just deep frying there. Yeah, but they're
not animals. But they're not dead animals. That's
true. Yeah, you have to give yourself. The butter's
actually good. I remember when I first met you,
you gave me a piece of your butter. It was pretty
crazy. It was pretty crazy. It was good, yeah.
Because they haven't got the cheese worked out
yet. Right. But the butter they have. So it's,
for those of you listening for the first time,
this is the end of the year. So I want to take
10 seconds to just go over, maybe not 10 seconds,
maybe a minute. A minute. But let's go over,
you know, This is episode 70. We've covered your
books, which is related to consciousness and
the matrix and different ways of thinking about
religion. Decoding the soul. Decoding the soul,
which is central. We've covered conspiracies.
We've covered monetary systems. We've looked
a little at politics. Entrepreneurship. We've
talked about plant -based medicine. Health. Health.
The mind. The mind, the ego. So for those of
you who missed any of our other episodes, there's
a search box. Just go to souldecodes .com. The
landing page actually has our current episodes.
It also has a search box. So if you look for
a key term... Like somebody was asking about
our episodes about mental health. Just go type
in the word mental. Yeah, there you go. And you'll
get like four or five episodes. That's great.
And same thing like plant -based medicine. Just
type in plant, and then you'll see all the episodes
that are related to that. The episode we did
recently was about grief. So if that's something
you're going through, that might be a good one.
And you know, there's a lot of people. I actually
saw other people sharing that episode on social
media. Oh, nice. It was a great one. It was a
good... Sharon's so beautiful in so many ways.
I like it. When I meet English women, there's
something that's there that isn't with American
women. They're a couple, but there's something
in the British humour, and I feel it with Sharon,
and she does too, and I can't quantify what it
is, but there's some, and it's deeply English.
It's cheeky. Is it? LAUGHTER Isn't that your
word, cheeky? Cheeky. But cheeky, I like the
term. I use cheeky a lot, even though I'm an
American kid. Cheeky is good. It's good to be
cheeky. It's kind of good because it's like,
it's almost like you know something, you both
know something and nobody else knows. It's like
our little secret, you know, type of thing. Yeah.
I get that vibe. Yeah. And it's... It's a humour
thing too. It is. It's very, very much that.
And yeah, there's just, it's very, very nice.
But my best friend Smokey, now she passed away
three years ago. She's from Minnesota. And I
connected with her. So it's not that I don't
connect with American women, but there's something
about English women who are my age and it's something
to do with our culture and our upbringing. It's
there and it's tangible. It's interesting because
you slice the demographic into two different
zones. One is the, well, a few different zones.
Women from England, our age. So you sliced it
three different ways. What's interesting is there's
this resonance. it's almost like a generational
resonance. So even if they're not from England
or not women, there's certain people like us
who grew up in the 70s. I'm not claiming that
I grew up, but I'm saying I was present. I was
present at an early age in the 70s. I'm still
not grown up. There's a public service announcement.
Don't grow up. It's a mandate in the Bible. It's
a trip. It's a trip and it's a trap. I think
be ye as little children because you have to
understand what that means. And it means you're
stripped from the ego is not there. Children,
they develop that over time, but it's not there.
So be ye as little children. It's coming back
to presence and awareness. Getting out of thought
forms, which is the egoic mind structure. Yeah,
and the more you know, I never really heard the
term thought forms until I met you and kind of
deep -dived into it. And for those of you just
listening, pick up some of Sarah's books. We
have links to them on souldecodes .com. Pick
up some of these books. There's even at least
one of them that's free, that you have the free
audio file. But this idea of thought forms is
very relevant. Because if you don't know that
you're functioning within these structures or
thought forms, then you're relegated. You're
almost... You're at their mercy. You're enslaved.
Enslaved. You're enslaved to those thought forms
until you identify them. Yes, and you've got
to be the watcher. You've got to pull back and
get into awareness and presence, which is the
childlike state of mind. This is before all...
I always hesitate going in there because I know
the way you present it is very relevant. When
I present it, it's my interpretation of it. Right,
but we're talking about the same thing. It's
a different language, isn't it? And people, what's
fascinating is I was watching... Watching just
one of those YouTube reels or one of those really
quick, like, you know, the three -minute thing
or whatever. And there's this girl that did this
fascinating job. She actually took the Fibonacci.
Do you know what the sacred geometry is? So there's
a Fibonacci sequence. A Fibonacci sequence is
when you take 1 plus 1 equals 2. Right? I should
actually draw it out on the board. You take two
numbers and add them up. So 1 plus 1 is 2. Then
you take 1 plus 2 is 3. And then 2 plus 3 is
5. And you keep doing that sequentially. And
if you add them up, you get this sequence. It's
called the Fibonacci sequence. And it's... There's
so many unique aspects to the Fibonacci sequence.
And you mean geometry? So this is taking a shape
of some kind? It touches... It touches everything
in human existence. If you looked at the ratios
of the Fibonacci ratios, if you look at somebody
that you perceive as beautiful, like the beautiful
face or a beautiful art or a beautiful seascape
or landscape or a painting, there's some of them
you look at and you're saying, oh man, that's
hideous. And there's others like, I can't explain
it, but that's beautiful. And they've got this
Fibonacci ratio. But they've got these ratios.
Some people call it the golden ratio. And even
though... Just have to get back to this, just
as a segue here, it just came into my mind. So
my mum did this oil painting, she painted in
oils of this racehorse and I treasured it for
years. And my best friend Smokey, who I just
mentioned, she came in and I hadn't shown it
to her. Now she was a pony girl and she trained
racehorses. And she went up to it and she just
pointed at it and she said, the next two short.
And then I couldn't not see that. And she was
right. So this ratio that you're talking about,
and there was always something slightly off by
it. And then she pointed out what it was. And
it would have been the ratio of the length of
the horse's neck in proportion to its head and
its body. So, and she pointed it out. And I was
actually happy to know that. But what you're
saying is it was disproportionate to what would
have been aesthetically pleasing. So I use these
ratios all the time. I first started learning
about them like probably 30 years ago. But there
is relevant... The Fibonacci sequence of numbers...
Sounds like Feminazi. Fibo. F -I -B -O. Fibo.
Fibonacci. Fibonacci. So I'll put it in the show
notes. But it's really important to understand
that when you look at things in nature, even
like a seashell, how a seashell is this spiral,
and it starts off small and it opens up into
this... big opening and it keeps going forever,
you could actually apply it to virtually everything
in life. Now, I'm applying it because she took
the spiral, you'll look at this spiral, it starts
off small and opens up into this big thing. She
did it in reverse. So if you think about yin
-yang, or you think about, we talk about the
divine feminine and the sacred masculine. One
of them is an outward And one of them is an inward
spiral. Both spirals are sacred and they're divine.
One is more of an inward energy and one is more
of an outward energy. So what they would call
the yin energy would be the feminine and the
yang. They pronounce it different ways, but yang.
The American English is yang. But they pronounce
it different ways. But the concept is the same.
You have this spiraling. It's a Fibonacci spiral.
golden ratio. It spirals out. That's more of
a masculine energy. It has nothing to do with
what's in somebody's underwear. It's just an
energy statement of an energy that goes out and
an energy that goes in. And they do it back and
forth. And this is the balance of life. That's
the rhythm. Those are the seasons. It's all relevant.
It's all... Everything around us is this sequence
of seasons and rhythms and harmonics. It's all
related. Well, what this girl did was she took
all of the bad events that have happened in recent
history, the past 30, 40, 50 years, and she plotted
how long it took the world to start questioning
it. you could do any event. So she started with
like 9 -11. It was like 20, 22 years or some
number. I forget the numbers, but basically she
plotted it and she put it on the ARC and she
said it took 22 years for people to start questioning
that. And then there was this, the scamdemic,
you know, I call it NOVID, which is the scamdemic.
It took so many years for people, but it was
only a fraction. So it was a reverse. It was
a return to the divine feminine. It was a yin.
I wonder whether because the COVID would have
affected everyone potentially. But so did 9 -11.
Yes, but people would see that as more abstract.
They wouldn't see this as an immediate effect
to their children. And that might have been why
you had a very intense reaction to that. Because
people can distance themselves from something
like 9 -11. We don't know who it is, what we
can do. about it and then but we can but covid
i mean that was just a panic i mean this was
just i remember i actually didn't panic at all
i had no problem with it but that's my point
is there's one i can see being a small amount
but but then even now like you know most recently
there was uh this this idea of you know uh donald
trump getting shot in the ear yeah a lot of people
30 40 50 years ago would have been freaking out
about that. Even Kennedy, it's basically a redo
of President Kennedy getting shot at. It's a
redo, but it's also a measurement of how long
it takes somebody to experience something in
this three -dimensional space and then come to
terms with it in the esoteric. So if you measure,
just roughly measure what happened in the 3D
space and how did I... How did I resolve it?
Or did I, when did I start to question it? When
do I resolve it? If you took that timeline, that
amount of time, and whether it's years or months
or minutes or days or whatever, whatever it is,
the amount of time it's taking people to observe
something in this reality. And then absorb it
spiritually. Number one, question it. Number
two, observe its relevance. Number three, ascertain,
match up. What am I seeing? Relative to what
does my intuition say? What is my interpretation?
What's my interpretation? The amount of time
it takes for someone to go from zero, which is
this thing happened, to the time that they intuitively
say, yeah, that's either true or that's bullcrap.
It's what? It's reducing. And really, so that's
great. So that's the point. Wow. It's not taking
decades. It's not taking decades for us to wave
the BS flag. No, we're processing at a quicker
rate. Yes, that's her point. So if you took any
example on the timeline, you could say, okay,
you could probably start off with Pearl Harbor
or something. So you start off and there's this,
this happens, and how long does it take for someone
to realize that it's bull crap, right? A long
time. A long time. But now we look at things
that happen. You can look at something that's
happening right now in the news. It used to be
it'd take forever for anyone to, number one,
question it. Number two... Don't you think communications
has a large part to do with that, the instant
communications globally? Well, I mean, that's
part of it, but also another part of it is...
We're tired. We're tired of the bullshit. The
communication within our own self. Yeah. So the
answer is yes, it's communications, everything,
but... The big communication is between our mind
and our hearts. Yes. That distance is the most
sacred distance because... What's going on here?
And it's central to your books. Because... people
are coming to this place where they're starting
to wake up. And that would be the divine feminine
then because you're coming into yourself, aren't
you? And you're questioning it. And that would
be largely intuition. It is. That's a dialogue
with God, whoever or whatever God is, and your
heart. So that's great that the divine feminine
is going to have to show up because that's very,
very good. We need to turn our attention inward.
Well, and what's happened is, if you think about
it, look at the divine feminine. We can go back.
We spoke recently about the messages of Mary
Magdalene. Well, that was very divine feminine
because she was basically saying, look, there's
no such thing as sin, right? But that doesn't
jive with the masculine narrative of the time.
You've got the Emperor Constantine. It's the
4th century. They wanted us all to have an inferiority
complex. That was the bottom line. But to do
that, they had to impose their will upon the
people. And the emperor is like, anything that
goes against my rule as the divine emperor, masculine,
is going to be burned at the stake. They're going
to be heretics. And whatever legacy is left behind
by these women... Will be what I goddamn tell
you is. Well, they had to have been a hooker,
a whore. They had to be a slave. They had to
be something. Because they couldn't be majestic.
They couldn't be divine. Well, they couldn't
have an opinion. They couldn't even have an opinion.
And even as recently as the 60s, whatever, you
can't vote, you can't own land, you can't have
an opinion. Yeah, well, that's all changed. Thank
God. You can't even show your face in some countries.
Yeah, I know. Put this damn thing over your body,
woman. And so all of these things. So we see
this restoration of this divine feminine. And
it's on the timeline that this girl did. She
said, we're at a place now where somebody can
put something out there. And it's not a gender
thing. This is not a guy -girl thing. That's
an energy. It's an energy thing. It's external
and internal. It's those two. It's waking up
to where is the power. It's within. So this is
what's so exciting is more people are realizing,
because people are depressed. Why are you depressed?
Because you don't understand what reality is
and how it's happening. You're not going to be
able to get a foothold until you understand it.
So let me, okay, Robin and I were talking about
this this morning before she left. She had to
go do some errands. We're having our coffee because
we always have our morning staff meetings. We
have coffee and just sit down and talk about
stuff. I asked her, I said, do you remember,
if I say the word to you, if I said to you, you're
a daydreamer, is that a positive or a negative
statement? Negative for me. Okay. Most people,
that's a negative statement. Well, what... Why
is that negative? But if you interchange it with
the word reverie, well, it wouldn't be negative
to me now. I'm talking about when I was first
programmed, right? You're in a daydream. And
it was considered useless, a waste of time, negative,
and there's something you should be doing. Well,
and that's because we've been trained, like our
entire public school system, we're training people
to be slaves. Yeah. They don't want you daydreaming.
They want you to learn. How to do something so
you can serve me. Cooperate. Right? So the public
school. But now, if somebody is a daydreamer
in school, boy, they were slackers. They should
be put in the hallway. Yeah, you're shamed. You
should put this bag over your head. Right? So
they're shamed. But now we're at a place where
daydreaming, unless you're driving on Highway
50 in Central Florida, please. Don't daydream.
But you can... But daydreaming is a beautiful
thing. Oh, it's vital. This is a restoration
of, a reattachment. It's a reattachment to the
beautiful part of ourself. The part that you
are not allowed to be connected with. And stop
giving it up to an external authority. Take command
of your own thought processes in your life and
discernment. And you've got an open line of communication
with the rest of whoever God is. Prayer is not
a one -way street. You take your focus off external
reality. You take care of your life and all your
immediate things and then come right back in.
And that would be the internal. And your intuition
will guide you. You ask a lot of questions. all
the time and start processing things for yourself
i mean reject authority now i'm not talking about
going out and breaking the law follow the rules
oh i am quite a lot of them but i wouldn't want
but but i'm not talking so engage with reality
as much as but you've got but don't get absorbed
into all this business of what's going on out
there because all all external reality is is
appearance in consciousness it's the appearances
of what our mind is creating in the matrix so
take your take your eye off that just do what
you need to do stay informed but bring it right
back in and your questions are right who am i
what am i here to do what is my purpose what's
in my life plan what is it that i need to know
that i don't know and start posing all these
questions and these answers come they will arrive
it'll be like a download you'll get it in your
mind and so what happened is That stimulated
the thought, the idea of daydreaming. I've been
talking about lucidity, lucid dreaming. Some
people call it astral projection. But I'm not
so much, I don't really use the astral projection.
So in your daydreaming, is it like pictures in
your head? So could you daydream about checking
into a hotel in Detroit right now? Absolutely.
So it's actually using this faculty, isn't it,
daydreaming? And it's our imagination. I use
it a lot. And you do it too. Because what you
do is you're, and I wanted to talk about your
publishing. We can do it another episode. Because
I think the idea of publishing books, I think
it's something people need to know about. Because
whether it's publishing books or whether it's
creating something else, because what you're
doing and what I do with my Web3 stuff is almost
identical in terms of its process, the synthesis.
But you pull yourself into this zone. Like one
of the reasons we have to kind of reconfigure
how we do business with Soul Decodes is because
we have to honor your sacred zone where you're
the creator. But what you're really doing is
you're... You're building the structure within
which you can have the autonomy. You're giving
yourself the space to daydream, to bring forth
that part of you without interruption. That would
be the writing part of what I do. That's the
writing part. So I think that if we pull this
all together from the macro, which is the outside
world, this three -dimensional earth space, something
happens. We're at a point now where instead of
just saying, oh, well, that thing happened, we're
asking questions. Why did it happen? Who is the
agonist? Who's the protagonist? Who has the most
to gain from what that thing is that just happened?
Who's blaming who? Why would they blame somebody
else? Those questions used to take years and
years to do. Now we look at it, then we can intuitively
say, well, that doesn't seem right. Why did that
happen on the anniversary of 9 -11? What are
the odds of this, this, and this, and this happening
all at the same time? So we're getting people
to start questioning things around them. That's
the macro. And they've lost respect for authority,
and you should lose respect for a lot of authority
and start working this out for yourself, and
now we've got the information at hand. And you
mentioned, you talked about external authority.
I'll put out there that there is no such thing
as external authority, that the only authority
is within you. Okay, that's just me. Let's make
the distinction between the authority for me
would be going 55 miles an hour on 33, whatever
the speed limit is. Now, I often go faster if
there's no cars on the road. You're a maniac
that way. But that's what I mean by authority.
And I have to pay taxes. There's certain things
I have to do to comply with the laws that keep
things running. But other than that, I'm my own
authority. And again, this is a different discussion
for another time, but you and I always seem to
come to this point where we have this discussion
because the idea is that, my question would be,
can humans coexist peacefully without somebody
telling them how to do it? Have we ever? Can
you answer a question without a question? So
ask me the question. Have we ever lived happily
together? I'm not saying ever. Could we? I'm
saying, is it possible for people to coexist
without an external authority telling them how
to do so? Yeah, probably in clans. In clans and
communities, small communities. Oh, so now what
you're talking about is decentralizing the authority.
So instead of giving away the authority to a
central figure, You're talking about pushing
it down? Well, to start out, yeah, that's how
you would do it at first. So you'd push it down.
And then you could broaden. So you could take
it down. I don't think people are used to thinking
autonomously, right? So I think there could be
a bit of anarchy involved with it. Well, when
you say anarchy, is that a bad thing? No, no.
It's going to be a disturbance until you get
to something good, right? That's just how it's
going to be. Archey would be rulership. Archey
is rulership, right? Monarchy is one ruler. Anarchy
means without rulership. So if I'm anarchist...
It doesn't mean I'm going to burn buildings.
It means I'm without rulership. So how would
you, if you had a community here and you're out
in Phillips Island and it's beautiful, how would
you, would you not say that you can't go faster
than 45 miles an hour on this road? So here's
the way it works. So there would have to be some
authority to enact basic rules. You can't play
your music after midnight. Not Biggie Smalls.
Yeah, right. You've got to toe the line. Wait
a minute. You can't tell me what to do. Well,
it would be if you were next to me and my children
are sleeping. Let's play that along. First of
all, let me ask you some questions first. First
of all, I want to tell you one thing over the
course of this year that I've personally changed
about myself. I've changed a lot of things, but
the one thing based on our discussions, that
I've changed, is you told me at some point prior
that it's time to change the Constitution. Now,
I took that to heart, and I actually agree with
you, but the change that I have in mind is getting
rid of it. Deleting it completely. Now, I know
there's a lot of Americans out there listening.
Saying, okay, that's enough. It's an interesting
concept. So delete it completely. Yeah, and there's
a reason why. This is a thought exercise, but
I want you to go through it with me, okay? Because
you're brilliant. But here's my idea. Under natural
law, common law, there has to be certain things
that exist. Like, you asked me the question about
playing music too loud in this neighborhood.
Use that as a concept and expand it to the country.
Here's the rub I've got. We must acknowledge
that we have the power within us. We have to.
If somebody else has power... The power of self
-government, you mean. The self -everything.
Self -reliance, self -government, self -everything.
Self -everything. If I create something, it's
mine. This is my property. There are certain
things that are mine. Now, I'm not going to pretend
to know all the answers, but I have these questions
that are very compelling. Let's just pretend
that you build Thierryland, and it's a beautiful
estate, and you built the structure, you built
the rules, you built all of these things associated
with how Thierryland is going to function well
into the future. And then your kids have kids
have kids. Now you've got great grandkids. You're
gone. And the children decide, you know, the
road's too noisy. The pollution's not right here.
There's just the, there's no good schools. For
whatever reasons that they decide, they say,
well, I'm kind of not, I kind of don't want to
live in Tearland or I want to change the rules
or I want to, I don't want to do it. Whatever.
They don't want to do it the way you dictated.
you know, three, four, five generations ago,
we're the great, great, great grandkids, we want
to do it this way instead. If they do it their
way instead of the way that you said it, is that
okay? The way, see, I have to go into tangibles
of what that looks like. So supposing I built,
which I did, I built Tiriland in 99. So these
are the rules. And they're my rules. And then
five generations, my rules are going to be enforced.
They're going to be grandfathered in. You can
only live on this property if you obey. Is that
what you're saying? Or you can get the fuck out
and go and live in Colorado. right but you're
asking should the rules change over time it would
be well who was there first so if i want to play
biggie smalls till two in the morning i've built
my house where i have no neighbors and i can
do that and i do do that if you come in after
that and you've you've built your house near
a mine then i would think my rules have to stand
because i was here first and this was my space
okay so that so you're going into the area of
property yes okay okay yeah so let's Let me remove
the abstraction and let's talk about the U .S.
Constitution. Let's pretend that the story about
the founding fathers was correct. Let's pretend
that the bankers were involved. The British actually
lost the war. Let's pretend that that's all true,
which is probably not, because most of history
is not true. But let's just pretend the Constitution,
1776, the American Revolution, let's just pretend
that that's all true and it happened as stated.
And the founding fathers were not Freemasons.
They were just good people, farmers that loved
their family, loved America. They loved each
other, and they really represented what was said
on that piece of paper. So we've got this Constitution.
When you look at contract law, so just put the
Constitution aside for a second. Now let's talk
about contract law between you and me. If you're
going to have cabinets put into your house, and
I'm going to install the cabinets, there's certain
things under contract law that must exist. There's
you, there's me. We have to be two adult, two
consenting parties, competent, there can't be
any fraud, and there has to be specific execution,
and there has to be consideration. So it can't
be one -sided, it's got to be, Well, I'll do
this for you and then you're going to pay me
this. Here are the terms. Here's the dates. Here's
the times. Here's everything right here. And
these are the execute. This is how things are
going to happen, right? So there's certain things
in an agreement that are both parties. So the
rules of that agreement are between you and me.
I can't... make those rules apply to my children
or their children or their children. It has to
be their rules with whoever they're in agreement
with. Now, if they choose to extend that agreement,
let's just say your kids and my kids inherit.
Let's say you're neighbors. We're both neighbors.
And your kids and my kids inherit both properties.
And they both say, yeah, you know, our parents
were pretty smart. These rules, they seem pretty
good. As consenting adults, they in turn can
extend those. And their grandkids can do the
same. And our kids, my kids, and your kids, they
can live as neighbors, peacefully coexist through
generations if they choose to do so. But under
what conditions would my decisions 100 years
ago be mandatory for my great -great -great -grandkids?
I think someone would argue what's for the greater
good. And that would have to be established,
wouldn't it? But are the conditions that you
want to live life, is that in a consensus of
people coming together, considered a superior
way of living compared to your children coming
in and wanting it to be different? That's what
would have to be entertained. And that's what
rules are about, right? But this is the rub.
This is the rub because we had to find that balance
because... I could care less about a consensus.
Because the moment you say consensus or majority
rules or greater good, what those things are
saying, like we could all decide, they could
all decide that the greater good means that you
need to get a chip in your body that tells everybody
where you are all the time. Well, no, I'm talking
about ideas here, not things that are mandatory,
okay? We're talking about ideas. Okay. So what
I'm talking about is where's the center of control?
Where's the authority? So what you envision that
everyone will be given total autonomy to just
please themselves, basically, and we're going
to be reliant. on having a good moral compass
within each other that we can agree and spiritually
would help but we can agree ethically and that
we're capable and there's going to be some it'll
be a little bit fractious at first but we're
capable of doing that without the constitution
anything you're a human being you live here there's
going to have to be the ways of buying a house
for example the ways of purchasing a car there's
going to have to be universal agreements which
are mandated so we can function together. There
will never ever be a universal agreement. It's
impossible. It won't happen. It's very radical.
But let me tell you the radical, let me tell
you the not radical part. When you read the people
who are opposing the Constitution, and this is
especially evident, there's a guy... What specifically
in the Constitution irritates people? Well, most
people are not irritated by it. They like it.
They salute the flag, they swear to the Constitution.
What about... Not even its existence. Is there
anything particularly in it that you object to?
I object to its existence. Yeah. Because why?
It's... The idea of the Constitution, there's
no agreement. There's no contract. Do you think
it might have been necessary when it was established?
And now it's outlived its usefulness and now
we can move to something better? I think it was
a fraud that was perpetrated upon us to keep
us from being independent free thinkers, to relinquish
our power to another authority. And the reason
you know this to be true is look at the Civil
War, how the Civil War played out. The so -called...
War to free the slaves what did the exact opposite
it actually enslaved all of us because it moved
the power to the central Authorities the bankers
to the central authority, so we won't go there
right now, but what I'm saying is this There
if there's a document that that's in place the
only ones that are beholden to that to the Restrictions
of that document are the people who are present
within it are the people who are present and
agreed to it. I did not agree to a document that
was written in 1775. I wasn't there. I'm not
responsible for it. I'm not... I might agree
that... I question its integrity. All it did
was... It didn't do anything except for put forth
a series of good ideas. Okay? Now let's talk
about where we are now with distributed autonomous
organizations, DAOs. The next system is going
to be we have a neighborhood where we get together
and we say, what is one thing we can all agree
upon? All of us. Well, I think from the time
the sun sets to the time the sun rises, there
should be no loud music in the neighborhood.
Can we agree to that? Unless it's someone's birthday
party and then we all have to, you know, you
can get an exemption because we're all going
to be, you know, whatever. But we've all got
to agree. Let's just talk about our clan, our
neighborhood, our village, just our clan. Yeah.
The general rule is that we're going to be civilized.
Right. But we can work that all into our agreement.
Yeah. We can say, look, if it's this certain
holiday or if it's a specific, not every day
of the week, but, you know, somebody's, novel
birthday or their graduation. Let's give it till
one in the morning. Let's be okay with that.
Yeah, let's be cool. Let's be okay with that.
You have to so be cool. But we can all do that.
We can all do that. But it's an agreement. Now,
this is where we've gone wrong. We, the people,
have gone wrong. You say, well, what happens
if there's conflict? What happens if there's
conflict? Well, we, in today's world, We're going
to pony up and get an attorney. What kind of
attorney? A bar attorney. What is bar? It's an
attorney that's sworn to support the British
way of life, the UCC, the Maritime Law. Bar stands
for British Accreditation Registry. So I'm going
to pony up an attorney. I'm going to go in front
of a judge who's basically to support the attorneys.
And they're all going to decide based on all
these codes what's going to happen to me. They're
going to pick the jury. They're going to pick
the laws. They're going to determine what is
permitted to be evidence and what's not permitted.
All I'm trying to do is say, look, we all agreed
that music after 2 a .m. is not okay under any
circumstances. They were playing music. We all
got woke up. it's not okay, right? Yes. I don't
need... Someone to enforce this under your terms
and conditions. I don't need somebody to call
the police and issue me a ticket and pull me
into court. So in your community, if someone
was playing music and it was getting obnoxious,
how do you deal with that? So this is the point.
It's called a jury of our peers where you get
together. And this is a... And would this have
been throughout history? We've lived in clans
like this and it's worked perfectly well? I'm
going to argue that... As little as we know about
the indigenous peoples, this is exactly what
they did. They said, hey, look, y 'all, this
person killed this other person's horse. Like,
you know, fleeting deer killed river monkey's
horse. Whatever they did. Look, this person did
this bad thing. They pull everybody together.
It's like, hey, This is what happened. You tell
your story. You tell your story. What do you
all think? We think this is a bad thing and he
should give him his horse because he killed him
wrongfully. He killed this guy's horse. He should
give him his horse plus another horse. Okay.
Is there anybody that dissents that says this
is a bad thing? And what if you have 20 % of
people disagreeing? Then we keep going until
we resolve it. You hash it out. You hash it out
until you resolve it because this person's been
injured. Well, then at that point, what if you
can't hash it out and you've still got this division?
That would be when you'd have to have a separate
law coming in and say, well, this is how it's
going to be done, this is how we're going to
do it, because you haven't been able to come
to an agreement. Well, yeah, I mean, you could
war game this out or game it out, but eventually
that person will be... The point is that if there's
people in a community and they agree... on a
certain basis of behavior, basic civility, everybody's
going to understand when that civility is violated.
And everybody's going to say... Look, what you
did is wrong. You shot his horse. You now owe
him a new one. And then you've got to prevent
him from doing it again because now he's just
an arsehole. That's going to cause friction within
this clan. And then you're going to have to find
a way of working that out. But at some point...
Someone's going to let his tires down. But at
some point, the jury of the peers, the jury of
peers, free thinkers who are in the same community...
I know Sarah. She... She injured this person
while she was driving too fast. She injured this
person, right? Those things do not require a
central government to resolve. That should be
pushed down. Now, if you had me killing someone
on the side of the road and I'm in this community,
who's to say that corruption doesn't get established
early on and me killing that person is covered
up completely and there's no ramifications? Because
corruption can exist. I mean, I'm not saying
that will exist because I believe in human nature
too, but that could exist. And so then I can
kill someone. There's no penalty for me doing
that. Right. And I'm going to say that there's
probably more of a penalty because if you really
truly get a bunch of people in a room that are
aware, they're conscious, they understand their
own divinity, they understand that you did this
dastardly thing, you were irresponsible. and
you took another life, I think that we're going
to be to a point where people will say, yeah,
you know what? How are you going to atone for
that? You're going to do this to atone for that.
I really trust people. I trust people enough.
That's kind of interesting. So when you're saying,
well, don't bang her up in jail for 30 years.
It was an accident and she was a bit irresponsible,
but she will atone for it. And of course you
will spiritually anyway, because God's going
to see to that. But you could also then dedicate
some service to the community as in penance for
doing that. So not everything, but then the intention,
what about if I'm just indiscriminate and I go
out and I just, just complete reprobate and I
don't, I'm not civilized. Right, I mean, but
once again, This all comes, I don't need a central
authority, a judge and its attorney and a bunch,
I don't need all that. If you push it down to
the local level and deal with it locally, at
the tribe, at the clan, at the village, at the
county, it's way more reasonable because when
you permit that power to go to some nameless,
faceless, some obscure three -letter agency,
You don't know what's going on. They don't know
who you are. They don't know the circumstances.
They don't see you're bawling your eyes out.
They're just pimping you for your money, basically.
They don't hear you talk about, look, I didn't
even see the girl. There was a buck in the road
and I swerved and I hit the girl. They don't
hear that story. They just know that you were
doing five over. Right? They hear what they want
to hear and they don't permit this evidence.
It's like, look, I've got the... So you're saying...
You could have a cam in your car that shows the
whole scenario and some judge can say, yeah,
that's not admitted as evidence. But if you show
that evidence in front of a jury of your peers,
you go, oh my God, I can see myself doing the
same thing. And the jury of the peers with their
kindness and compassion are going to say... It's
latitude. It's forgiveness. It's like, holy crap.
Sarah, she was avoiding the... She didn't know
that she was going to do that. There was no intention
there. There was an accident. And if there was
intention and you have someone running around,
they're not going to last very long because someone's
going to take them out, aren't they? Precisely.
In the military, we call that friendly fire.
Friendly fire. If there's a dirtbag and they're
doing dirtbag things, accidents happen. I'm just
telling you, accidents happen. And I know a couple...
I think it's going to come to that. I think people...
Let's go back to what we were saying when we
originally opened up, that people are processing
things faster, they're questioning things faster,
and they're coming to resolutions faster. And
one of the things that I think people want, and
we all want the same thing, we want security,
we want freedom, we want to express our creativity,
we want safety, we want education for our children,
we want access to hot and cold running water
and the food that we want, and we all want...
same thing and we're not getting it because most
people are not most people a lot of people are
very very unhappy on this planet they don't understand
what they're doing here why they're doing it
the purpose of their life they don't feel they
have any control over the matrix they're living
in they don't even know they're living in a matrix
so i think at the end of the day i think having
a community, and it's being done, there's a lot
of experiments, kind of like an ashram, I guess,
right? And I think that a lot of people will
decide to choose a simpler way of life. And being
around people they can fellowship with, who have
like minds, that would be very important. I love
it. Your values, because, not saying that everyone
has to be an echo chamber for your own value,
but actually having someone that thinks a lot
like you do, perhaps spiritually or politically,
it's quite nice because you can fellowship on
that. I've always said that, Friendship is based
on common interests. And so central to that,
the most common interests would be how we view
our neighbor, how we view ourselves. If I view
myself as this dirtbag, worthless bag of crap,
the odds of me viewing other people with... with
any degree of respect is pretty small. So there's
some value. I know that you value life and you
have this level of ethics and this morality and
this rational cognitive capability. I value that
in my friends. You've also got to seek it in
your friends, but you've got to become that yourself.
You have to become the change, and that would
be the thing. Wherever you are, you want to be
creating the world that you want to live in,
and then bring that right back on yourself. Who
do I need to be in relation to everyone that
I want to be around? So you brought up this point
about people have lost control to the matrix.
And we never use the word control or authority.
I don't think they have. But my question is,
whose fault is it if they have lost control to
the matrix? So I'm seeing the matrix. Everything
in external reality is just an illusion. What
we're seeing in external reality are the appearances
of consciousness. So we've projected this because
we're each projecting... this matrix that we're
living in the quantum field is mirroring back
to us directly our state of consciousness so
when you've got all these institutions and they're
all taking advantage man has created this because
man himself has created this consensus reality
you don't have to even be worried about what's
going on in external reality just bring this
back to yourself start upgrading your own consciousness
and then you'll get everything you want from
the matrix because it's going to reflect it right
back to you irrespective of what's going on in
external reality and my book the mirror world
i recommend that at the end stop fixating on
the appearances of consciousness and start creating
within your own mind inspect your thoughts inspect
what you give time to and make that where you
need to be at the change and then it doesn't
matter what's going on because your bubble is
going to reflect your consciousness and then
you're going to have a much bigger sphere of
influence if you're ambitious and you have a
big plan for yourself so i wouldn't i just wouldn't
i don't worry like you do about what's going
on in external reality i would say it's much
more about what's going on in my own mind because
that's causing what i reflect all external reality
all this mass appearance this is maya this is
the illusion the hindus spoke about don't worry
about that too much just really bring and that's
what we started out bring your attention reverse
it Bring it right back in and take a look at
your mind, inspect it, and you can get rid of
thought forms. But you might have a lot of shadow
work to do. You might have to de -program yourself.
So I fully understand what you said, but I'm
going to push back a little bit because you said
you don't worry about the external reality like
I do. But at the same point, you're talking about
this collective consciousness. Well, that collective
consciousness would change if we all upgraded
ourselves. It would automatically change. But
that's my point. How can I... First of all, I'm
not worried. Yeah. Okay, the worry is that...
Yeah, it's not the right use. It's not the use
for me. You're curious more. When I see things
that are happening in this space, well, first
of all, is it fair to say that, based on what
you just said, is it fair to say that if somebody
perceives that they're being controlled by the
matrix, that that's actually something that they
desire? They actually desire the control. They're
projecting it. So they're perceiving the control
because that's what they expect, that's what
they want, that's what they're projecting. Is
that fair? Well, when you're perceiving and projecting
are different. So, yes, we're all living in this
reality and what's getting reflected back to
us is our state of consciousness. So if you're
coming under a lot of control, you can actually
pull out of that because that is a low use of
thought forms and upgrade what you think about
or just abide in awareness, just embody. the
higher frequencies don't worry about getting
pulled into that side of things there's not much
a single person can do about it unless you have
money that that actually can unless you have
a big platform two things money or a big platform
but if this is all just this big mass illusion
each person should begin with themselves look
at your own life are you the best version of
who you could be are your thought forms pure
have you got a big vision for your life and stop
focusing unless you can control your mind like
a buddha because i think with you i don't think
you're worried because i don't think you let
it emotionally affect you but that can emotionally
affect a lot of people and that's who i'm addressing
here you can get pulled into this and you think
the world is fucked everything's going wrong
bastards doing this and you can get put i mean
i know a lot of people that are pulled into that
and now you're going to get a reflection of that
let's give it let me give you a very specific
question that i think almost everybody can relate
to and this This will give you a really good
idea of who I am. All of us have seen the Wizard
of Oz. Do you remember the very first, maybe
you don't remember the first time, but you could
probably imagine the feeling you had the first
time you saw the Wizard of Oz. You saw the journey.
You saw the tornado. You saw the... fear we saw
that old lady take toto away right you saw all
these dastardly things happen and then and then
you go in and there's the wizard of oz and it's
scary and he's scary yeah and you're like oh
my god don't go in there i think you know in
every instance you have to really project all
of the illusion that was put in your face and
all of the fear tactics put in your face about
this wizard of oz And now we're in control of
everything. And you have to go and worship this
wizard. And I'm saying that what we've been subjected
to for my whole life is this wizardry. It's a
false reality being projected upon us. Now, follow
me through on this. How did you feel when the
dog goes and pulls the curtain back and now there's
this guy working his levers? Relieved. And you're
like... Relief. holy crap, it's this dirtbag
old fart that's a phony. He's projecting this
stuff in front of us, talking through the speaker.
He's doing all this stuff. Smoke and mirrors.
It's all smoke and mirrors. And the reality is
that the participants were much more powerful
than the wizard. The guy was a phony. He was
a fake, right? So all I'm suggesting... He only
had the power you gave him. Correct. And that's
all I'm suggesting is... The power was always
yours. The tin man always had the courage. The
straw man always had the heart, or the lion,
or whatever. I forget. The lion was courage.
Yeah, the tin man was a bit of a wuss. All of
them, they always had those beautiful things,
but they were lied to. They were lied to their
entire lives about who they were, what's their
nature, and it didn't really come out. And so
there's this, they got gifted. this heart. They
got gifted this bravery. They got, no, no, no,
no. Nobody gifts you those things. You have those
things. And if you don't think, and I do this,
I'll wrap up at least my stuff with this. I go
to these chamber of commerce meetings and stuff,
and we get to introduce ourselves for, what,
30 seconds? And I don't need anything from the
chamber. I go there for social. And I say, okay,
I want you to repeat after, this is my time,
my 30 seconds. Say, I am beautiful. I am powerful.
I am completely free. If you can't say, I am
beautiful, I am powerful, I am completely free.
If you can't say those things without a little
uneasiness, if you can't say you're beautiful
and... If you say I'm beautiful and you don't
feel it. Yeah, you haven't embodied it. If you
say I'm powerful but you don't feel it. That
would be the toxic positivity which is brandished
around. You've got to embody it. You've got to
really feel it. But we've been programmed not
to feel it. But I tell people it's like if you
can't say I'm beautiful, I'm powerful, I'm free.
I'm free. Without just your skin. Tensing it.
If it doesn't feel right to you, then you need
to ask better questions. Who's in control? Where's
the power? Who's the authority? Where's the divine
spark? Is there a God outside of you? That's
actually quite powerful. I like that. That gets
them started and warmed up real fast, doesn't
it? Yeah, I start up really quick. I start up
first crank every time. They're excellent, though.
I love it. But I do. It just wakes you up, though.
Well, these people, they want to come to the
chamber and talk about, you know, if you need
me to sell real estate for you, come in. I'm
the best realtor in the world. Uh -uh. I'm talking
right to the soul. I'm getting right to the thing.
You're beautiful. So when I start my church,
then, I want you to come in. Because that would
be a great... in a way, to stand up in a pulpit
and then have that, that would be, I mean, I
guess the Chamber of Commerce works, but it's
not quite the forum, but in a church that would
be, this is what, what we should be attaining,
in external is heaven on earth, and internal
is understanding our own divinity and a high
degree of self -worth and self -love. I'm going
to argue that the Chamber of Commerce is the
perfect forum. But they're not expecting that.
They're not expecting it. If you go to a sermon,
you're expecting some person... Well, you're
going for instruction. You are going in because
you're catching them off guard. But I'm a gorilla.
I'm an operator, you know, so it's like I want
to catch them off guard. Yeah, you want to see
their reactions. Well, Sarah, I never know where
things are going to go. Did you have anything
else you want to chat with before? Yeah, so I
just wanted to close out. The Tarot Guards was
a book that I spoke about. It was probably...
What is this called? The Tarot Guards. Guards,
okay, okay. Guards. Guards? Guards. Guards. G
-U -A -R -D. Guard, okay. I thought you meant
guard. I thought you said guard. Guard? Guard.
Okay, I've got to roll my R a bit. The Tarot
Guards. Guard. It's very Irish. The Tarot Guard.
Yeah, God. It sounds like God when you say that.
Yeah, it does. It sounds like the American God.
I have to translate to the Americans. That's
the Queen's English there. The tarot guards.
So the tarot guards, I'd mentioned this, and
it was a book that took me 12 hours. And I did
it with AI, and then I had AI illustrate it.
And I'm publishing it tomorrow, so by the time
this goes out, this will be available on Amazon.
So next time we speak, it'll be on Amazon, and
I'd like to talk about it. It's beautiful. So
the tarot card is basically the 78 psychological
stages of humankind, and everyone goes through
this. I still have to get my tarot cards, because
you said I have to... Yeah, you know what? Yeah,
let me try and find... Well, I'll give you a
copy of the... Yeah, but you will need to get...
I have to find... I have to get them online.
I don't know, I've got to find something. So
the book basically goes through, it's got the
Knight of Pentacles here, it goes through King
of Pentacles, it's got cups, it's got swords.
So to be clear, the tarot cards, I'm being ignorant
here because, I mean, I've seen tarot cards,
I don't know anything about them, but there's
all these cards, and from what I understand is
there's... You can look at it one day and it's
going to be a different interpretation than another
day? No, not at all. Absolutely the opposite
of that. So if a card comes up, it's actually
got to... It actually means what it says. There's
no... You can interpret... It's unambiguous.
It's unambiguous, yes. The sun means this. Death
means this. Wheel of Fortune means this. The
tower means this. So it is unambiguous and there's
78 of them. And everyone can describe them differently
and use different language, but all the symbols
are in the card and that doesn't change. No matter
what card you would get, it would all be laid
out the same so we have this notion of prayer
and prayer is not a one -way street right you
can pray to God and then God answers so the way
that I've used the tarot deck is put it out to
the universe to God to the source If you need
to communicate something to me which is helpful,
then a number will appear in my head and there's
78 cards. So I could be washing dishes, listening
to ABBA, thinking about something, and all of
a sudden I hear like 32. It's like, what the
fuck? And that thought has arrived from nowhere.
We don't know where thoughts come from. I've
gone to the tarot deck and I've picked out card
number 32. So do you shuffle them? I do. I always
give it a shuffle. Shuffle it and then go to
number 32. And then go to the card. And you can
be led to how many shuffles. as you do and every
time I've done it it has been absolutely pertinent
to what I either have been struggling with or
what I need to know or it gives me clarity and
some cards suck some are a real kick up the arse
and some are really good right so I use it in
terms of the church of the light ages so in terms
of prayer it's a way that the universe can communicate
a complex theme to you and you give the universe
permission through the tarot deck. And this book
is, you need a tarot deck and then this book
will give you the explanation of what the sun
is or the moon or strength. Or temperance. And
you'll see the picture. This is just the working
copy. It doesn't look like this. So the picture
is on the right. I've got notes down here. And
it will give you a depiction of the card. What
the Church of the Light Age is. And that we live
in a matrix. And the quantum field says about
the cards. And then what the tarot guard. Who's
on the front. What the tarot guard says about
the cards. So it's a way. It's spiritual communication.
That's how I would describe it. But I'm very
specific. I allow it because ask and thou shall
receive. You will get answers. And so you give
the universe permission to use the tarot deck.
And I don't ever touch cards or pick one up.
I only do it when I hear a number randomly in
my head. Got it. And then I pick one up. I like
it. And it's never really failed me. It's like,
holy shit. And then when you read the card, you
realize, wow, the universe, I'm interfaced with
the universe. That's what I realize. It's like,
how did the universe know that I needed to know
this about my psychology at this moment? Maybe
because the universe is within you. It's right.
It's like you're connected with it. Well, it's
getting to be a holiday time. We're going to
wrap up. Any closing thoughts for people as they
listen during the holidays? Well, happy holidays.
Don't eat and drink too much. And think about
what you want to happen in 2026. And know that
you are, love yourself. You are very powerful.
Don't listen to a load of bullshit about what
you've been told about God. Work it out for yourself.
And you'll realize when you go on that journey
that you're ultimately divine. Divinity is not
outside. It's beautiful. Thank you all for listening
all year. This is episode 70. We're looking forward
to you sharing it with other people. We love
what we do. What we do next year might change
up a little bit because Sarah's so busy and so
am I, but just please. I've got to write my novels.
So The Starside Prophecy is my first novel. That's
available on Amazon. I'm halfway through the
second, so I'm going to be spending 2026 getting
the show on the road with that one. And then
there's a third one. It's a trilogy, and it's
called The Starside Prophecy. And I'm not going
to give you a spoiler alert because there's a
lot going on. But that's what I'm going to be
working on in 2026. I'm just glad you make room
for me sometimes at the studio. Once a month
I'm coming in. Yeah, definitely, darling. I'm
going to keep interviewing people even if you're
not here. We're going to keep the show going.
Sometimes I might have to go solo and cover some
things, but I'm always grateful when you make
time for us in the studio. Yeah, I've really
enjoyed it. I've loved it. 70 episodes. It's
been a real thing. I've learned a lot. Yeah,
I think so. But we're going to make the most
of it. I'm actually going to roll out some other
work I'm doing. Right now I'm working on, I just
launched it, 17 Wolves, 17wolves .com. There's
a lot of people who are going to be building
the next internet with the next version of tools.
Think about everybody having a device and being
able to not search an internet. You don't need
a domain. You can actually talk to your phone
and your phone will fetch the information. But
behind the scenes, how does your Desmond know
where to find this, this, this, and this? How
does that happen behind the scenes? Some of us
are designing that architecture, and it's going
to be fun. Behind the scenes kind of gal. Yeah,
that's great. You're such a geek. I'm a total
nerd. Blessed are the geek. Blessed are the geeks.
They shall inherit the earth. Exactly. It's lovely
talking to you. Okay, love you, dear. Have a
good holiday. Hope to see you more, okay? Yeah,
I'll see you on my birthday. I love it. Take
care. Bye -bye. Okay, bye.