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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join

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us as we wander off the path to find the ideas

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that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the

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mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with

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tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better

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life. Hello everybody and welcome to Soul Decodes

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episode 66. We have a special guest today and

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I'm excited. This is like our fourth or fifth

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guest. Yes. We're having a good time doing it.

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Loving it. This is like really, really cool.

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Put some spice in the mix. Yeah, boy. You know,

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I don't even know where to start with this one.

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We have in the house Carlos Solis. And for those

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of you who listened to the past couple shows,

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we've interviewed... his daughter and one of

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his sons. So, Sarah, did you take a look at this

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man's book? I haven't because I've only just

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received it like 10 minutes ago. But I'm going

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to read it. So you might have to come back on

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because I'll have a lot of questions. But this

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is a political refugee story. And what a premise.

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Yes. Because that's, it's just a lot without

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even knowing anything about it. Yeah, so just

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not to spoil this thunder, but, you know, I've

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just talked to him briefly before the show offstage.

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And we... You know, he's an athlete. He was a

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boxer. You know, he's from Cuba. So he's he's

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he's come into America through legal channels.

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That's a conversation. Yeah. You know, he's a

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great musician. I looked at his Reverb Nation.

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Very well established. Plus, he's done a great

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job with his kids. It's like we could talk about

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like a thousand things, but. Why don't you tell

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us what's on your mind and then let's... Well,

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I just wanted to say, I listened to your album

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because Tia Jolie sent it to me and I was in

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my cabana and I was writing and I loved it. It

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was absolutely, it was so beautiful. Thank you

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so much. Really, really nice. And how long have

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you been singing? Well, you know, I started playing

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music. I knew I loved music when I was a kid.

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When you were a kid, yeah. But of course, we

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had nothing. You know, we came here. Refugees

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had nothing. So there was no way I was going

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to get a guitar. So it took me years to finally,

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my poor dad, wind up getting me a guitar on Christmas.

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And I was in heaven. And I started playing. And

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I realized how bad I was. Oh. I thought you were

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going to say you realized how brilliant you were.

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But it took me a while. And then I started listening

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to James Taylor. Oh, yes. And I started listening

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to his style of guitar playing. And I said, I

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like this better than just strumming. So eventually

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I picked it up. As a teenager, we got pretty

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popular in Miami. We were on live television.

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We were in a recording studio. We were recording

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an album. It would have been my first album.

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And it was with the producer, the guy that produced,

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I don't know if you remember, Cornelius Brothers

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and Sister Rose. Yes, I do. Like a lady. Yes.

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So he produced us and wanted to sign us. But

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when you look at the contract, it was all one

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-sided. Yeah, and it was back then, wasn't it?

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Oh, my goodness. It doesn't happen today. All

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this effort to make 10 cents. So we didn't do

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anything. So I started getting better and better

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and better. And I love writing music. Oh, so

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you write your music. All the songs you heard,

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I wrote everything. Music and lyrics. But the

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interesting thing is I couldn't make a living

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because when you go play at bars or restaurants

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or coffee houses, they want to hear the top 40s.

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Right. I didn't play anybody else's songs. You

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didn't cover. But mine. And nobody knew who the

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hell I was. So it just turned out that way. But

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I played until I was 21 or so. And then I met

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my to -be wife. And I said, well, I better put

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down the guitar and get a real job. Right. Which

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I did. And it was an interesting story. I never

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picked it up again. Until 2007. Oh. My wife was

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diagnosed with breast cancer, a very serious

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one. So I decided that I'm going to sell the

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business. We own a very successful graphic design

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company and billboard company. And I said, I'm

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going to sell the business, and I'm going to

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take care of her full -time, 24 -7. For two years,

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I took care of her. But we lived in a nice house

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on a lake. And we were told she had cancer. And

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we made that decision of selling the business.

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Three days after that decision was made, a guy

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walked into my office and asked me if I would

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like to sell my business. Yeah, that's unbelievable.

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There's no coincidence. Wow. We negotiated, and

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it worked out that he bought it. So I took care

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of my wife. We bought a motorhome in between

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chemo. Chemo's every third week. And we would

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go camping so she can be out. Yeah, in nature.

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In nature. And a year and a half or two later,

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when she finally got a clean bill of health,

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I get a phone call. a week later, that the people

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we sold to went under. It's almost, it's defied

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belief, doesn't it? It's unheard of. So I called

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the bank, and I said, I got a deal for you. So

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I gave them, not even 50 cents on the dollar,

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more like 10 cents on the dollar. I bought it

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back. Wow, what a gift for you and your wife.

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And I bought it back with the condition that

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Michael, my son, who started in the business

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when he was little with us, would take it over.

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And when the business was built up again strong

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enough, I said, I'm done. Here's the keys. And

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my wife and I have been retired. And that's your

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legacy now, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. And they're

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doing a great job doing it. I'm a little, they're

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doing better than I do. So let's go ahead and

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back up. Let's spend five or ten minutes. You

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know, you didn't come from Cuba with this bags

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full of money. And you didn't come like, I'm

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going to buy a business in America. Wouldn't

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that be nice? Well, I'm looking at this beautiful

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cover. And it's, the name of your book is called

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From Cuban Shores. to new horizons and it's a

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beautiful it looks like a sunset but it could

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be a sunrise yeah yeah and it's got the cuban

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flag and you know i know i've been down to to

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key west and i've been i've actually been to

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cuba too yeah and it's you know i know what this

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represents but i think that we need to dive into

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your journey just a little bit yes so so go back

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to your earliest memories in cuba before you

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left so my grandparents were originally from

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spain from astutia spain Up in the mountains.

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And they went to Cuba with financial wealth.

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To make a better life for themselves. And they

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opened a big pasta company. And my dad lived

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in a mansion. They were very well off. Were you

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raised in a mansion? I don't remember it. But

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you were? No, I don't think so. I think what

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happened, the mansion, one of the first things

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that the communists took, they made it into a

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school. And then they took the factory. So what

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I do remember is, and it's funny because you

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go to your memories and sometimes after years

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and years of... listening to all this, you don't

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recall if it was that really my memory or was

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that the stories my uncles used to say that I

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created my... Yes. But either way, it's a true

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story. So remember the tanks coming into Havana,

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the gunshots, the screaming, the... What years

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are we looking at here? 1959. It was November

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or December of 1959. How terrifying. Some were

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celebrating because they thought this was going

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to be better than what we had. Some were scared.

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Some were assassinated. So it was a total mess.

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Chaos. And we left in November of 61, two years

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after Castro had taken over. We arrived here

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on a plane, Pan Am, with nothing. Our clothes

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we had. My sister had a doll and my father had

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a carton of L &Ms and we just landed. What were

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you told? Were you just told we're going to a

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new country to live? Well, I think my parents,

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I think everybody was under the impression this

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is going to be six months, eight months and we'll

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be back. Not to happen. We're still here. Not

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yet. Things are changing. Yes. So we wind up

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in what we call the projects, Little Havana.

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In Miami. In Miami and a bunch of apartments.

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Typical, you see the movies, all the apartment

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kids running everywhere. And that's, you know.

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And then there's things that stick to you. I

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remember. The favorite word was speak. Everybody

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would call, here comes a speak. And then, of

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course, you've got to kick his ass or they kick

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your ass. It depends. So we went through a lot

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of that. Did you have brothers and sisters with

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you? Excuse me? Did you have brothers and sisters

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with you? I had two brothers and a younger sister.

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And so I went to school, learned English quickly.

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And got in a ton of trouble. I joined the local

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street gang when I was in eighth grade. Were

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you selling drugs? No. No. It wasn't. You know

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what? That was like at the beginning. Now, I

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grew up with major drug players. Right. Yes.

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If you remember, there's a gentleman named Willie

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Falcone. Went to prison. He served 20 years and

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he's out. Gisela Blanco. Oh, yes. There's been

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a biography about her. She was in the neighborhood.

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She grew up in the neighborhood. Well, she didn't

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grow up. She came from Colombia, but she was

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in the neighborhood. So that's what I dealt with.

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So you were in a street gang and that was where

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you hung out. Your parents were working, I guess.

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So was the gang, was that because there was some

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familiarity or was there objective? It was just

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guys that came in like us. We lived in the same

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neighborhood. We kind of protected each other.

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So you had a common interest. Yeah. You had a

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common interest, like you're living in the same...

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Yeah, I think when I hear the word gang, I automatically

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go to drug and violence, but this was not like

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that. No, yeah, this was just different. We had

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drive -by shootings where people would come to

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our neighborhood. You did or did not? No, we

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did. We had people come to our neighborhood.

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And everybody. You'd have to shoot back or hide.

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No, because we didn't know what was coming. But

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yeah, it was a tough upbringing. I went to three

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middle schools and three high schools. Wow. I

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did not last more than a year in each school.

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It was rough. And this was because you were rebellious,

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were you? You didn't pay attention. You didn't

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do what you were told. I couldn't sit in that

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chair long enough. I couldn't listen to this

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crap. I just wanted to go out with the prettiest

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girls. But yeah, there were some great times.

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You don't know that you don't have anything.

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everybody was living the same way. I remember

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my mom used to take a shoe box and cut the bottom

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and put it under my shoes so my holes, you couldn't

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see the holes in my shoes. To get you through

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another day. Yeah. Oh my, that's resourceful,

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isn't it? Yeah, she was, very. But it was a tough,

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Miami was a tough place to grow up. Yes, I've

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lived there. But, you know, I was, I remember

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in high school, I met two, uh police officers

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and uh they helped me they helped me a lot i

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still talk to them today what they meant to you

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yeah yeah they were a youth resource officer

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um uh and and they were and with If they would

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have done today what they did to us back then,

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they would be in jail. Yes. They beat the hell

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out of us. Yes. And we deserved it. Corporal

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punishment. Yeah. And your parents were okay.

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Everyone was okay with it. Yeah. We had the cane

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at school. I never got it. My brother did. But

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they bend you over and had a long cane and they

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whack you on the ass with it. Now they'd be arrested.

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These cops, they were... They gave it to us.

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So I went to work early. I was 17. Doing what?

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I worked for a billboard company. And I started

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at the bottom. I remember the salesman and the

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sales manager would drive in, and they had their

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own gas pumps in the company, and I would be

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pumping their gas. And I said, damn it. I said,

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one day they're going to be pumping my gas. Oh,

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really? You affirmed that to yourself? And I

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worked my way up all the way to lower management.

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So you had an objective. Yeah. And they were

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pumping my gas. Yeah. And then I went and. Took

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a chance and just started my own billboard company.

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So when you got this job at the billboard company,

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was it because you wanted to learn a trade or

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it just happened to be a job that you stumbled

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upon? It just happened to be a job. Isn't it

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funny that? And then it just transformed your

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life. You know, it's funny because kids nowadays

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have so many choices. I could be this, I could

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be that, I want to be that. I have a choice.

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This is where I'm at. I'm going to make the best

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out of this. And did you just watch everything

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that was going on and learn? Was that how you

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were able to be competent enough to think you

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could do it? Every time there was an opening,

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I would apply for it, as long as it's a step

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up. Yeah, good for you. And I learned, and eventually

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I went from being a worker to going up and being

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in the front office. I worked my way to a lower

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management position. And one day I just said,

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man, I can do this my own. Yeah. I didn't realize

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how hard that would be. Oh, really? If I would

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have tried, if I would have known at the time,

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I might have not done it. Yeah. I started, what

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you do is you go out and you find properties

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that would allow you to build billboards. that

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are zoned correctly. You get the city, the state,

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everything. So I did. I went out and I found

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about 12 or 14 of them. I signed a contract,

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and my contract would say, I don't pay any rent

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until the billboard's up. I didn't have the money

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to pay rent. Yes, you need the money coming in.

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So it took me maybe two months calling R .J.

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Reynolds Tobacco because they were the biggest.

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buyer of billboards back then and i couldn't

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i didn't get an answer back and back finally

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one day he calls and he says carlos you've been

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hounding me for two or three months i said i'm

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gonna be in miami you come pick me up at the

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airport and i'll take a look at what you have

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the only problem is we're driving a pinto now

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i can't pick him up in a pinto I was thinking

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about stealing a Lincoln, but I said, no, those

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days are gone. So I wound up renting a car, picked

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them up. The only problem was none of the billboards

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were built. I didn't have the money. And that's

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what he was expecting. Right. So I put little

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signs on the properties and I said, R .J. Reynolds.

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And every time I got to one, I say, this is this.

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And he says, you haven't built any? I said, no,

00:18:14.180 --> 00:18:16.519
sir. I said, to be very honest with you, I don't

00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:18.710
have the money to build them. And that's why

00:18:18.710 --> 00:18:23.569
I need some help. So he said, let's go look at

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the rest of them. So we drove all over Miami,

00:18:26.089 --> 00:18:28.650
took them back to the airport. About a month

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and a half later, I get a big contract for every

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single one. And he says, go ahead and bill. And

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then he paid you some in advance? No, no. He

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just sent me three -year contracts on each billboard,

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which represented maybe $50 ,000, $60 ,000 a

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month. Back in the 80s. Whoa. So I went to the

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bank. Couldn't get anywhere. Wouldn't lend me

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a penny. So I wound up having to get a partner.

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And we did it. Built all the billboards. Then

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he would call me and ask me, hey, you know where

00:19:02.450 --> 00:19:04.789
Lake City, Florida is? I said, sure do. I said,

00:19:04.829 --> 00:19:06.589
I need billboards there. Would you go up there?

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Got a motor home. Lake City. Spent a month or

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two. Found property. I had sale already made.

00:19:15.099 --> 00:19:17.920
Yeah. And I went all over the state of Florida,

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all the way to North Carolina, building billboards.

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And did you actually do any of the building part?

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I mean, did you? I did when I was younger and

00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:28.740
when I worked for the other company. I did the

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welding and all that. So you've done every kind

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of capacity. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that's basically.

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And then I decided I'm done with traveling. I'm

00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:44.420
done. I want to raise my kids. Came to Claremont

00:19:44.420 --> 00:19:47.980
in 86. Ten years before I got here. Yeah, that's

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a long time. So it's just a dirt road coming

00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:51.160
in, wasn't there, at 50? Yeah, it was nothing.

00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:54.000
Orange groves and a dirt road. So we came to

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Claremont. I decided I'm going to sell. What

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made you come to Claremont? Was it because it

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was beautiful and the lakes? No, not necessarily.

00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:02.539
I think because it was just about the center

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of the state and I could get to Panama City or

00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:09.279
anywhere else quicker than trying to go from

00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:14.579
Miami to Panama City or, you know. So, and it

00:20:14.579 --> 00:20:16.160
was beautiful. I mean, you had the hills, the

00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:22.500
lakes. It was nice. But eventually, I had a difference

00:20:22.500 --> 00:20:24.980
of opinion with my partner. Things didn't go

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very well. I sold, started the local company,

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and been self -employed ever since. That's great.

00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:41.519
That's a great story. Yeah, you just went in

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as an apprentice, learned the ropes and then

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just took over. That's wonderful. So I'm super

00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.839
excited to read your book. So you came over,

00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:54.759
you followed all the rules, you worked hard,

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rags to riches. You nudged up against, you know,

00:21:00.170 --> 00:21:02.809
the drug world and the police world. You bumped

00:21:02.809 --> 00:21:05.470
it, but you didn't really have any issues. No.

00:21:05.589 --> 00:21:08.650
You kept yourself pretty clean. I get myself

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free of drugs. I don't drink. I don't smoke.

00:21:12.789 --> 00:21:16.069
I don't take drugs. I never have. You're like

00:21:16.069 --> 00:21:18.029
me. You're pretty boring. I mean, it's just I

00:21:18.029 --> 00:21:24.069
am what I am. But most of my friends were. You

00:21:24.069 --> 00:21:26.410
know, they were dealers. They were getting up

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in the... drug world and and it and it created

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a conflict for a while and then finally they

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you know when i started my billboard business

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when i needed the money i was approached multiple

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times for uh laundering you know bill i'll pay

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for the billboard you pay i was tempting and

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it was no it was but but i said nah you know

00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.380
i got a wife i'm gonna have kids i said i don't

00:21:53.380 --> 00:21:55.779
need this it's very responsible of you yeah well

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i that's that's amazing yeah i also scared the

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shit out of me to be in jail so yes exactly yeah

00:22:01.980 --> 00:22:05.599
so i i is the billboard company that you had

00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:08.900
a name that we would recognize well it's it's

00:22:08.900 --> 00:22:13.029
uh It was in the 80s called Outdoor Displays.

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And eventually it sold and it sold again. And

00:22:16.490 --> 00:22:20.609
now either Clear Channel has it or Lamar. It

00:22:20.609 --> 00:22:22.369
just got absorbed. Yeah, it got absorbed. What's

00:22:22.369 --> 00:22:24.509
interesting is, and Sarah doesn't even know this,

00:22:24.589 --> 00:22:27.250
but when I was not flying airplanes up in Detroit,

00:22:27.369 --> 00:22:31.029
I was an advertising and promotions officer for

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the Air Force. And I interacted with the billboard

00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:36.670
companies all the time, like Lamar and these

00:22:36.670 --> 00:22:40.450
companies. And the reason is because... I actually

00:22:40.450 --> 00:22:44.069
got millions of dollars of free advertising for

00:22:44.069 --> 00:22:46.750
the Air Force. You know, the AMI Air Force with

00:22:46.750 --> 00:22:48.430
the jets and everything. I remember the billboard.

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Because they could sell billboards easier if

00:22:51.329 --> 00:22:53.589
there's something on it and it's not blank. So

00:22:53.589 --> 00:22:55.789
it was a win -win. So I could take them. It's

00:22:55.789 --> 00:22:57.750
like, look, I'll give you all the paper. You

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can do the hanging. It benefits the Air Force.

00:23:00.069 --> 00:23:02.329
It benefits them to not have a blank billboard.

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And I was driving the whole state. Any blank

00:23:06.309 --> 00:23:10.069
billboard there was, was an Air Force. Wow. I

00:23:10.069 --> 00:23:13.349
literally, if I had a commander that was worth

00:23:13.349 --> 00:23:14.930
anything, I would have been promoted just based

00:23:14.930 --> 00:23:18.750
on that. But are billboards still a thing today

00:23:18.750 --> 00:23:21.690
with all the technology of advertising? Well,

00:23:21.710 --> 00:23:23.269
yeah, you know, you've got to understand everybody

00:23:23.269 --> 00:23:25.789
talks about radio, television. That's all fine

00:23:25.789 --> 00:23:28.269
and good, but there's a lot of wasted ad. I mean,

00:23:28.349 --> 00:23:32.549
you're advertising on a regional, I mean, I see

00:23:32.549 --> 00:23:35.920
ads at my house. From a car dealer in Jacksonville.

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.339
You think I'm going to go to Jacksonville? So

00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:41.759
at least a billboard. Yeah. You know, McDonald's.

00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:46.200
10 miles for the ride. Next exit, yeah. And people

00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.839
shop that way, too. We have a captive audience

00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.500
driving down the turnpike. Well, on the turnpike

00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:55.799
in 75, you want to see a billboard. You want

00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.019
to know where you're going to stop. Clean restrooms.

00:23:58.299 --> 00:24:01.599
Yeah, yeah. You want to know where you're going

00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:03.779
to stop. So you sold your business to your son.

00:24:04.220 --> 00:24:06.759
And by the way, we love your family. We only

00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.380
met, we got to meet Charlie still. That's going

00:24:09.380 --> 00:24:12.500
to be something. So I'm going to read your book.

00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:14.319
Thank you for the gift. Oh, you're welcome. Yeah.

00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:16.740
For those of you listening, Carlos gifted us,

00:24:16.819 --> 00:24:19.140
he's going to sign them over to us, two books.

00:24:19.420 --> 00:24:22.940
I'm excited to dive in there. Is your book available

00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:25.500
on Amazon? Yes. Yes. So I'll put a link. From

00:24:25.500 --> 00:24:28.319
Cuba Shaw's New Horizons. Yeah. I'll put a link

00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:30.539
from the show notes. So that's good. So what's

00:24:30.539 --> 00:24:33.710
next for you? You're into music. Well, let's

00:24:33.710 --> 00:24:36.289
touch on your athletic, because you said, I was

00:24:36.289 --> 00:24:38.890
making you a coffee earlier, and you said you

00:24:38.890 --> 00:24:40.430
had some experience boxing. We don't have to

00:24:40.430 --> 00:24:42.329
go deep, but I'm an athlete, so I love hearing

00:24:42.329 --> 00:24:45.690
these stories. When I was in high school, instead

00:24:45.690 --> 00:24:48.490
of going to school, I would go over to Coconut

00:24:48.490 --> 00:24:54.069
Grove to Elizabeth Berry Gym and do a little

00:24:54.069 --> 00:24:58.579
training. I don't exaggerate the training, learn

00:24:58.579 --> 00:25:00.619
how to throw a punch, learn how to do certain

00:25:00.619 --> 00:25:04.380
things and, and try to get some discipline and,

00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:07.099
um, boxing. I'll discipline. Oh, absolutely.

00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:09.400
Absolutely. Boxing was the best four years of

00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:13.660
my life because it was, you will be disciplined.

00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:17.940
Yes. Yes. And, uh, uh, so I did that. And, uh,

00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:20.500
I think like I told you earlier, my, my dad.

00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:25.579
My dad worked at a hotel by the airport, and

00:25:25.579 --> 00:25:28.460
he started as a busboy, and he wound up being

00:25:28.460 --> 00:25:33.259
the assistant manager. And Roberto Duran, who

00:25:33.259 --> 00:25:36.759
was the lightweight and then middleweight champion

00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.980
of the world, would stay in that hotel when he

00:25:39.980 --> 00:25:44.180
trained. And I get a call one day at 11 o 'clock

00:25:44.180 --> 00:25:46.900
at night at the house, and I said, hello, and

00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:49.670
he says, Carlos says, yes, this is Roberto Duran.

00:25:49.890 --> 00:25:52.970
And I said, yeah, sure. Yeah, sure it is. And

00:25:52.970 --> 00:25:56.349
I'm Alexis Arguello, and I help him. He calls

00:25:56.349 --> 00:26:03.089
back, and it turns out it was Duran. And he says

00:26:03.089 --> 00:26:06.569
to go down to Tropical Park, where he was training.

00:26:07.210 --> 00:26:10.890
And so I go over there, and I tell them, the

00:26:10.890 --> 00:26:13.390
bounce big guy, I give him my name, and they

00:26:13.390 --> 00:26:16.490
let me in. And as soon as I walk in, They throw

00:26:16.490 --> 00:26:19.710
a couple of gloves at me, headgear. Were you

00:26:19.710 --> 00:26:22.950
expecting that? No, shit, no. And I'm out here.

00:26:23.230 --> 00:26:27.289
Suit up. And I said, all right. And I'm cocky,

00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:30.490
you know. So I get up there. And I was taller

00:26:30.490 --> 00:26:34.410
than he was. So I start jabbing, and I'm hitting

00:26:34.410 --> 00:26:37.710
him. And I'm saying, shit, maybe I'm better than

00:26:37.710 --> 00:26:41.589
I thought. And about 40 seconds, he goes in and

00:26:41.589 --> 00:26:43.700
he says, hey. Are you ready now? And I said,

00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.759
oh, shit. Oh, God. One punch. Really? One punch

00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.900
in the stomach. And I took my gloves off. I said,

00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:55.240
fuck you. I'm out. So I tell everybody I went

00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:57.900
40 seconds with Roberto Duran. And he knew that

00:26:57.900 --> 00:26:59.940
as well. He was toying with you, wasn't he? Oh,

00:26:59.940 --> 00:27:01.359
no, he was messing. He was letting me hit him.

00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.660
And here I am. And you were thinking, oh, I'm

00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:06.839
good. Hey, man, huh? So where do I sign up? And

00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.019
for anybody in martial arts or boxing, everyone's

00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:13.430
got this great idea. Until you get your head,

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:15.650
your head. Oh, yeah. Your first head, you get

00:27:15.650 --> 00:27:19.349
your bell rung. Oh, yeah. Okay. It's just a very

00:27:19.349 --> 00:27:21.990
different. I can still literally remember the

00:27:21.990 --> 00:27:25.289
first time I got my bell rung. I'm like, what

00:27:25.289 --> 00:27:27.109
happened? That's where the discipline comes in.

00:27:27.109 --> 00:27:29.769
It's like, what just happened there? And that

00:27:29.769 --> 00:27:31.750
just spurred you on to get better because I would

00:27:31.750 --> 00:27:33.970
have quit if I can't stand pain. If someone had

00:27:33.970 --> 00:27:35.930
belted me in the kidneys, I just walked away.

00:27:36.029 --> 00:27:38.230
Well, it depends on your thing because like I

00:27:38.230 --> 00:27:40.509
was at the Air Force Academy as a freshman and

00:27:40.509 --> 00:27:43.880
I was a smart ass. So you don't get a choice

00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.039
of what sports you're going to do. They put all

00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.759
the smart asses in to boxing because you're going

00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.660
to get your... Oh, wow. So I deserved everything

00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:55.839
I got. Oh, no. Because I was... If you were mouthy.

00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:59.029
If you're... telling me that my uniform sucks

00:27:59.029 --> 00:28:01.210
and you've got dirt on your brim of yours, I'm

00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:04.029
going to tell you about that. And you weren't

00:28:04.029 --> 00:28:06.630
popular. I was not popular because I said what

00:28:06.630 --> 00:28:09.170
needed to be said. You were respected, though,

00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:11.089
probably. And they did the same thing. They put

00:28:11.089 --> 00:28:13.690
me in team handball, and all they do is just

00:28:13.690 --> 00:28:16.470
pelt you with these, just you're the goalie.

00:28:16.470 --> 00:28:18.829
I was the goalie. It just pelt, pelt. It was

00:28:18.829 --> 00:28:21.509
just being attacked. But you know what? I deserved

00:28:21.509 --> 00:28:25.109
everything I got. I own it. I own it. But I admire

00:28:25.109 --> 00:28:28.369
anybody who says they boxed. It's such a good

00:28:28.369 --> 00:28:30.549
sport. Because my middle son, the one you haven't

00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:37.289
met, when I took him to enlist in the Navy, and

00:28:37.289 --> 00:28:39.910
I told him, okay, now you need to try out for

00:28:39.910 --> 00:28:43.589
the Navy boxing team. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, okay,

00:28:43.670 --> 00:28:48.150
Dad, okay. Of course he didn't. And now he regressed

00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:54.009
it because at the time, When we started boxing,

00:28:54.349 --> 00:28:59.650
he was 85 pounds when he was whatever, 12, whatever

00:28:59.650 --> 00:29:02.230
we started. I don't know what age. And he was

00:29:02.230 --> 00:29:05.309
ranked third in the state of Florida. So as he

00:29:05.309 --> 00:29:08.549
got into teenagers, he started getting real good.

00:29:09.190 --> 00:29:11.950
And I said, here's your opportunity. You want

00:29:11.950 --> 00:29:14.930
to go in the Navy, join the tryout for the boxing

00:29:14.930 --> 00:29:17.539
team. I'm sure you're going to make it. And you

00:29:17.539 --> 00:29:20.440
might even go to the Olympics with the Sphinx

00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.000
brothers. People don't understand the opportunity.

00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.420
The military is very unique. Oh, yes. Because

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:29.279
you can get, like, I did music. I was a bugler.

00:29:29.500 --> 00:29:31.940
And I was able to play. They flew me to Tokyo.

00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:34.859
They flew me. I played in the Pentagon. We competed.

00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.619
We went to every ballgame and had front row seats

00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:39.940
at every ballgame. Wow. So if you do boxing or

00:29:39.940 --> 00:29:41.599
you do music, you can get in these different.

00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.980
Even my previous band I was with was a Phil Collins

00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:48.539
tribute band. one of my two guitar players just

00:29:48.539 --> 00:29:51.759
left. He was the lead guitar for the Army Band.

00:29:52.859 --> 00:29:55.220
What stories he has. If I'm fortunate, I'll get

00:29:55.220 --> 00:29:58.880
him for my next band. But nobody knows that if

00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.759
you're a sports or musician, even if you're a

00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.759
color guard, like we used to get for all the

00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.539
Detroit games, we had four tickets for the color

00:30:07.539 --> 00:30:10.740
guard and their guests. I got eight tickets for

00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:13.240
every game, every hockey game, every football

00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.539
game, wherever they needed a color guard. So

00:30:17.539 --> 00:30:19.720
there's a lot of opportunities. These are just

00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.460
tangential. I mean, it's a sacrifice. You're

00:30:23.460 --> 00:30:24.900
still in the Navy, you're still in the Air Force,

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.079
still in the Army, but there's still some really

00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:28.859
cool things. There's some really cool things.

00:30:29.740 --> 00:30:32.599
So that's awesome. So what did we not talk about?

00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.539
I had a question for you about the police. We

00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:38.079
talked about, you said the police, they were

00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.380
different then than they are now. They had a

00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:44.500
little bit more leniency, but they used to be

00:30:44.500 --> 00:30:48.019
called... peace officers but now they're called

00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:50.339
the enforcement officers right i mean they're

00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:53.039
it's like this there's this paradigm shift yeah

00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.279
and so i just wanted to get your opinion on you

00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:58.359
know you've been in america since well pretty

00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:00.140
much as long as i've been alive i was born in

00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:03.279
63 so yeah so you know you've been here for 60

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:08.460
61 61 years well in 1961 so game so not not just

00:31:08.460 --> 00:31:12.480
the police but just america in general like this

00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.789
is fascinating because I was born in America.

00:31:15.650 --> 00:31:19.089
She came here from England. You came from Cuba.

00:31:19.190 --> 00:31:21.589
This is a very different conversation. We have

00:31:21.589 --> 00:31:24.130
three different paradigms about the same entity.

00:31:24.450 --> 00:31:28.630
So my question is simply this. When I talk about

00:31:28.630 --> 00:31:31.670
America, I'm not talking about a country. I'm

00:31:31.670 --> 00:31:36.160
talking about an idea. Second of all, I've never

00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:39.859
had to import myself into this country. So I'd

00:31:39.859 --> 00:31:41.779
like to hear the two of you talk about your experiences.

00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.759
So why don't you start? Well, you know, there's

00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.839
a lot of people that hate America. They're commenting

00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.019
always about it. The people that hate America,

00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.559
to me, haven't seen the rest of the world. So

00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.200
how could you? When I was growing up, I did not

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:05.049
confuse our country. with the racism people had

00:32:05.049 --> 00:32:09.309
about me. Those were individual people. It had

00:32:09.309 --> 00:32:11.690
nothing to do with America. We have a constitution.

00:32:11.809 --> 00:32:15.950
We have certain things that are superb. They're

00:32:15.950 --> 00:32:21.650
fantastic. I grew up, people hated us. We dated

00:32:21.650 --> 00:32:25.869
a lot of American girls, and I guarantee you

00:32:25.869 --> 00:32:28.730
those parents didn't want to see us, but we showed

00:32:28.730 --> 00:32:35.500
up anyway. The opportunities this country gave

00:32:35.500 --> 00:32:41.460
me, to be able to fail when I had to fail, to

00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:45.920
succeed, to work hard, nobody gave me anything.

00:32:47.299 --> 00:32:51.160
Nothing. You just worked hard. You were honest.

00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.460
You tried to do the best you can. And honestly,

00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.880
I don't know any other country in the world.

00:32:58.079 --> 00:32:59.940
And do you think that's still like that today?

00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:03.230
I think the opportunities are there. I think

00:33:03.230 --> 00:33:07.329
we have too many naysayers and too many people

00:33:07.329 --> 00:33:12.490
sticking their hand out. Right. You've got to

00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:15.690
be prepared to work hard, have a vision. It's

00:33:15.690 --> 00:33:21.349
funny because people talk about racism. You know,

00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:30.640
to work and not get paid is part of maybe, a

00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.000
racial problem. You're Hispanic. But to get paid

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:41.880
and not work, it's just as bad. I mean, to be

00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:45.519
giving stuff. Now, I believe there's certain

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.299
people that need help, that need assistance.

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:53.059
Yes. But people take advantage of it. So let

00:33:53.059 --> 00:33:55.819
me ask. This is a good question because you don't

00:33:55.819 --> 00:33:58.420
know much about us, but neither of us. would

00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:01.220
walk by somebody in need and not help them. And

00:34:01.220 --> 00:34:03.359
you did the same. So there's three of us. Do

00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.000
you think we're unique? Or do you think most

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.039
Americans would, if they saw somebody with a

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.900
need, a legitimate need, wouldn't stop to help

00:34:10.900 --> 00:34:14.840
them? I think a lot of people would. Most people

00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.960
would. I see videos of this all the time. People

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.619
stopping, pulling in homeless, feeding the homeless

00:34:19.619 --> 00:34:21.980
people, taking care of people. What do you need?

00:34:22.059 --> 00:34:25.070
What can we help you with? This is normal. We

00:34:25.070 --> 00:34:27.670
don't need a government to do this. No. And one

00:34:27.670 --> 00:34:30.630
thing I liked what you said, Carlos, was that

00:34:30.630 --> 00:34:34.469
coming to America, you were allowed to fail.

00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:37.789
Correct. So what I like is that America is the

00:34:37.789 --> 00:34:40.010
land of, it's an opportunity. That's all you

00:34:40.010 --> 00:34:42.670
want. A lot of people, they feel like, oh, I'm

00:34:42.670 --> 00:34:47.210
going to America because of equality. Well, equal

00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:50.429
outcomes is different than equal opportunity.

00:34:52.179 --> 00:34:53.880
Absolutely. Because if you take the floor, you

00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.199
take the ceiling too. Yeah. That's why I always

00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.539
say, just give me a chance. I always say, give

00:34:59.539 --> 00:35:03.320
me a chance. If I fail, it's on me. If I succeed,

00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:08.739
it's on me. But I'll tell you a quick story about

00:35:08.739 --> 00:35:12.920
giving. My middle son, Charlie, had a friend

00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:18.590
from England. In fact, he was from... I don't

00:35:18.590 --> 00:35:21.030
remember. Wherever it was, the accent was, I

00:35:21.030 --> 00:35:22.670
couldn't understand. No, it's probably North.

00:35:22.869 --> 00:35:26.150
Newcastle. Okay, North, yes. Newcastle. 12 years

00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:28.389
old, whatever. He would come to the house every

00:35:28.389 --> 00:35:31.389
day, play with my son. And all of a sudden, I

00:35:31.389 --> 00:35:33.289
didn't see him anymore. And I asked Charlie,

00:35:33.369 --> 00:35:36.250
I said, hey, what happened to Luke? And he says,

00:35:36.250 --> 00:35:38.409
oh, they put him in a children's home. And I

00:35:38.409 --> 00:35:41.329
said, what? I said, the father had come with

00:35:41.329 --> 00:35:45.690
him, got remarried, or got married to stay here,

00:35:45.750 --> 00:35:49.070
basically. The new mother didn't like the kid.

00:35:49.750 --> 00:35:54.210
So I told Charlie, I said, when did this happen?

00:35:54.250 --> 00:35:56.429
It was about a week ago. So I went over to the

00:35:56.429 --> 00:35:58.650
children's home, and he was in tears. He used

00:35:58.650 --> 00:36:02.530
to call me Gijo. And he was crying, Gijo, please

00:36:02.530 --> 00:36:04.670
get me out of here. Help me. And I said, okay,

00:36:04.750 --> 00:36:08.610
I'll be back. So I went over to his father's

00:36:08.610 --> 00:36:12.670
house, and I sat down with him and his stepmother

00:36:12.670 --> 00:36:15.940
or whatever. And I asked him, I said, what's

00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:17.579
the problem? I said, how come he's in a home?

00:36:18.019 --> 00:36:20.219
And she started and I said, well, I said, nothing

00:36:20.219 --> 00:36:22.719
to do with you. I'm talking to the dad. Good

00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.519
for you. And he started, well, I said, listen,

00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:27.840
are you a man or what are we dealing with here?

00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.380
Wow. I said, so I'll tell you what I'm going

00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:33.639
to do. I'm going to go see my attorney. I'm picking

00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.599
you up tomorrow and you're going to sign him

00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:41.119
over to me. And he did. Wow. I went and got him.

00:36:41.219 --> 00:36:43.960
Wow. Got him out of the children's home. Gave

00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.380
him a place to live for eight, nine months, and

00:36:47.380 --> 00:36:51.199
then they didn't renew his visa or whatever papers

00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:56.340
he had. She had to go back to England. But, and

00:36:56.340 --> 00:36:58.559
I've got several stories like that. I'm not going

00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.760
to mention them all, but that's giving. That's

00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:08.239
what we have to do. I see cops or military, I

00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.340
pay for the dinner. Yeah, unless there's 20 of

00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:15.000
them. But I usually do. And I see a homeless,

00:37:15.260 --> 00:37:17.940
I don't give them money. I'll go over to a restaurant,

00:37:18.019 --> 00:37:20.599
buy a lunch thing or food, and hand it to them.

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.159
And you're right what you said. I think there's

00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.360
a lot of Americans that... people in this country

00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.039
that would do that i think i think you taking

00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.940
a kid in is absolutely is admirable because a

00:37:33.940 --> 00:37:35.920
lot of people wouldn't do that i mean that is

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.559
above and beyond i was fostered at age 14 someone

00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.739
took me in very much like your story and um i

00:37:41.739 --> 00:37:44.780
loved her and she died 10 years ago and she was

00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:47.280
my heroine all my life because she rescued me

00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.159
not a lot of people would do that so that that's

00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.360
amazing and you change this kid's life even though

00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.980
he had to go back to england he saw what it meant

00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:58.289
to step in and that would have framed his life.

00:37:58.429 --> 00:38:02.409
So that's amazing. So over the years, over the

00:38:02.409 --> 00:38:07.269
decades, America's changed. Yes. I see it changing

00:38:07.269 --> 00:38:10.429
back. I think America's about to be better than

00:38:10.429 --> 00:38:13.610
ever, especially knowing what's... I see things

00:38:13.610 --> 00:38:15.510
in the background that nobody else sees, because

00:38:15.510 --> 00:38:19.449
I study this. But your optimism is just what

00:38:19.449 --> 00:38:23.070
I think we need, just to be optimistic. If you

00:38:23.070 --> 00:38:25.030
know what's really going on right now in the

00:38:25.030 --> 00:38:27.760
backdrop, You're going to be infinitely optimistic

00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:32.119
because the idea of America is going to go worldwide.

00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.960
It's going to go worldwide. And the idea is that,

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.360
you see, we're not a democracy. We're a republic.

00:38:39.539 --> 00:38:42.760
And the republic doesn't stand for a blue party,

00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:47.260
a red party. A republic stands for the individual.

00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:52.269
It's about his right to say what he wants. As

00:38:52.269 --> 00:38:54.489
long as he's not hitting you or stealing things

00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:58.590
or breaking a contract. So the idea of America

00:38:58.590 --> 00:39:00.829
is going to be a worldwide phenomenon. Make the

00:39:00.829 --> 00:39:02.909
distinction between a republic and a democracy.

00:39:03.150 --> 00:39:07.409
What is the key difference? So if the two of

00:39:07.409 --> 00:39:09.329
us, here's three of us, we're going to vote on

00:39:09.329 --> 00:39:11.389
something. The two of us say that you're going

00:39:11.389 --> 00:39:13.309
to shave your head. You have no choice. You're

00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:14.650
going to shave your head. And that's a democracy.

00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:17.590
Yeah, because we're a majority. We win. The majority

00:39:17.590 --> 00:39:20.769
wins. Majority wins. And a republic. We just

00:39:20.769 --> 00:39:22.610
voted and you lost. We have representatives.

00:39:24.769 --> 00:39:29.650
In other words, we vote for a senator, a commissioner,

00:39:29.869 --> 00:39:33.690
and they represent. They're not representing

00:39:33.690 --> 00:39:37.250
51%. They're representing everybody. And this

00:39:37.250 --> 00:39:39.670
would be a. We're not going to talk about this

00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:42.269
here in my Studio 17. I'm going to deep dive

00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:45.530
about the Constitution. Not the way you think.

00:39:45.610 --> 00:39:47.789
We're going to deep dive way beyond the Constitution.

00:39:48.190 --> 00:39:52.690
But the idea of America is about you, your sovereignty,

00:39:52.929 --> 00:39:55.650
your divine spark, and your permission to be

00:39:55.650 --> 00:39:58.449
everything you can possibly be. That's America.

00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:02.050
So if somebody in our number one country listening

00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.909
to this is in Singapore, if somebody in Singapore

00:40:04.909 --> 00:40:09.070
is listening to this, The idea of America in

00:40:09.070 --> 00:40:11.869
Singapore is that you're beautiful, you're powerful,

00:40:12.030 --> 00:40:16.789
you're free. Your divine spark deserves whatever

00:40:16.789 --> 00:40:21.230
you can reach as long as you're not transgressing,

00:40:21.230 --> 00:40:23.349
as long as you're following God's rules, God's

00:40:23.349 --> 00:40:25.869
structures. You have this basic, I'm not going

00:40:25.869 --> 00:40:28.449
to lie, cheat, steal, just basic stuff. Don't

00:40:28.449 --> 00:40:30.590
break contracts. Honor your word. Here's the

00:40:30.590 --> 00:40:33.570
basic structure. If you're living that way, then

00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:36.659
you're an American. in singapore now the whole

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:39.039
idea of government whether there's see everyone

00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.199
thinks oh we have we're america's great because

00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:44.219
of a constitution no no we don't have rights

00:40:44.219 --> 00:40:47.079
from the constitution all the constitution is

00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:50.539
it's a it's a warning to the government the constitution

00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:54.980
is a warning it's like we the people we own you

00:40:54.980 --> 00:40:57.519
correct you don't play you don't play ball for

00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.320
anyone but us and if you play ball for somebody

00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:03.610
else we are going to come get you That's what

00:41:03.610 --> 00:41:06.230
the Constitution is. I don't get my rights to

00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:09.329
carry arms or to say what I want from a stupid

00:41:09.329 --> 00:41:12.829
piece of paper. I was born with those rights.

00:41:12.989 --> 00:41:16.190
And all the Constitution does is says, you F

00:41:16.190 --> 00:41:19.949
around with me? Bad idea. First of all, I'm going

00:41:19.949 --> 00:41:22.869
to use my words to tell you that this is not

00:41:22.869 --> 00:41:26.889
okay. And by the way, my weapons are not to defend

00:41:26.889 --> 00:41:29.059
against my next door neighbor. They're to defend

00:41:29.059 --> 00:41:31.079
against a tyrannical government. Right. What

00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.559
happened in Cuba? Yeah. So let's double back.

00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.860
We didn't have weapons. Let's double back to

00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:38.800
that because this is very relevant. So I wanted

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.519
my question to you, Carlos, is, you know, how

00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.000
has America changed and how does what are you

00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.340
looking at? What would you like to see in America

00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:49.900
moving forward? I personally would love to see.

00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.179
I want to go to Cuba. I want to own property

00:41:52.179 --> 00:41:55.000
in Cuba. I think it's going to happen. I think

00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.440
it's going to happen in 36 months. Really? Yeah.

00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:06.000
God, I bless you. Until recently, when Al Marco

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:10.800
Rubio was there, I would have said that I probably

00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.679
won't see it in my lifetime. We need to have

00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.420
you live longer because you're going to see it.

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.559
I hope so. I hope so. But you asked me about

00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.500
what I thought. I think our biggest mistake.

00:42:25.550 --> 00:42:30.929
And not as a country, but as people. You come

00:42:30.929 --> 00:42:34.150
to this country, first of all, you should be

00:42:34.150 --> 00:42:39.130
grateful. Number two, assimilate. Don't tell

00:42:39.130 --> 00:42:41.610
me you've been here 15 years and you can't speak

00:42:41.610 --> 00:42:45.769
the language. Don't tell me you don't understand

00:42:45.769 --> 00:42:49.650
anything. There's no excuse. You come in to live

00:42:49.650 --> 00:42:54.599
here. Listen, I speak Spanish fluently. But if

00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:01.099
there was three Spanish people here and one American,

00:43:01.260 --> 00:43:04.920
don't talk to me in Spanish. You know what's

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.400
fascinating about that? Both Sarah and I have

00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.900
been to numerous countries. I've been to 50 countries

00:43:09.900 --> 00:43:12.199
in the military, plus afterwards probably 60

00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.480
total. Every country I went to, I tried to learn

00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.480
at least a few of the words. The idea that the

00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.840
home people... saw this American at least trying

00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.719
to speak their language. But the difference is

00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:35.699
you go to visit for vacation or to visit or for

00:43:35.699 --> 00:43:39.260
work, but when you come here to live here permanently,

00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:43.070
And you're trying to change the deal, yeah. Yeah,

00:43:43.070 --> 00:43:45.670
don't change America. That's why you came here.

00:43:45.809 --> 00:43:47.869
Yeah, I know. That's always puzzled me. It doesn't

00:43:47.869 --> 00:43:49.429
make any sense. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

00:43:49.429 --> 00:43:51.889
You know, I see people, and I'm not going to

00:43:51.889 --> 00:43:53.730
mention anybody, I see people driving around

00:43:53.730 --> 00:43:55.909
with little flags from their country and all

00:43:55.909 --> 00:43:58.309
of these flags and waving the flag. No, wave

00:43:58.309 --> 00:44:02.369
the American flag. That's why you're here. So

00:44:02.369 --> 00:44:05.710
that, to me, it always gets me when I see that.

00:44:05.869 --> 00:44:11.119
I mean, I have one employee. He was in the military,

00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:16.239
not from here, but it doesn't matter where he

00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.260
was from. I hired him, and I said, listen, I

00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:23.860
need you to speak English. So what I want you

00:44:23.860 --> 00:44:27.119
to do, I'm going to give you 12 months. I need

00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.539
you to learn the language because there's only

00:44:29.539 --> 00:44:31.860
certain people here. My wife and I are gone.

00:44:32.799 --> 00:44:35.480
Somebody's got to answer the phone. So you need

00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.800
to speak to her. So 12 months, he didn't. I fired

00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.940
him. Let him go. It's fascinating because I just

00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:44.039
opened up business in Puerto Rico like five months

00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:48.579
ago. That's what I was talking about. And I don't

00:44:48.579 --> 00:44:50.639
speak Spanish much, but I don't have to. But

00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.039
if I was in Puerto Rico, I'd learn it. But I

00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:54.840
saw that as an opportunity to go into Central

00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.179
and South America. So I brought on a whole bunch

00:44:57.179 --> 00:44:59.550
of people that speak Spanish. Bilingual Spanish?

00:44:59.849 --> 00:45:02.570
Yeah. Because I don't. I think it's a very valuable

00:45:02.570 --> 00:45:04.510
thing. So I think you have to know your audience

00:45:04.510 --> 00:45:06.849
and you have to know. But you're correct. There's

00:45:06.849 --> 00:45:09.110
a difference between visiting someplace. Right.

00:45:09.309 --> 00:45:13.050
And actually, like if I were to go to France

00:45:13.050 --> 00:45:16.650
or Germany and I was going to live there or Russia.

00:45:17.530 --> 00:45:20.369
I would immerse myself, and I'd figure it out.

00:45:20.530 --> 00:45:23.849
Well, you respect their culture. You don't go

00:45:23.849 --> 00:45:26.809
to change things. You respect their culture.

00:45:27.989 --> 00:45:30.869
My next trip, and me and my wife, and I travel

00:45:30.869 --> 00:45:33.449
a lot, not other countries. We always travel

00:45:33.449 --> 00:45:38.090
in a motorhome. We travel the country. Our next

00:45:38.090 --> 00:45:41.869
trip is Spain, and we're going to Astudia, where

00:45:41.869 --> 00:45:46.190
my grandparents are from. I speak Spanish, but

00:45:46.190 --> 00:45:48.550
I'm going to destroy it up there. It's very different.

00:45:48.769 --> 00:45:50.829
Yeah, it's just different, but I'm going to do

00:45:50.829 --> 00:45:56.809
it. But, yeah, bottom line, I love this country.

00:45:58.090 --> 00:46:00.250
It gave me the opportunity, what you were saying,

00:46:00.309 --> 00:46:04.650
that's all anyone should ever want from this

00:46:04.650 --> 00:46:07.789
country is to be protected in the military. Yes,

00:46:07.789 --> 00:46:11.190
free. And it gave us the opportunity to excel.

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:13.860
And it's there. And you'd mentioned gratitude

00:46:13.860 --> 00:46:16.500
right out the gate. Oh, absolutely. I mean, and

00:46:16.500 --> 00:46:19.039
unless you've been, I feel sorry for people.

00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.179
I mean, with Tia Jolie, we traveled the world.

00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.400
Thank God I did because I know how amazing this

00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:27.739
is. I've been to Africa. I've been to India.

00:46:27.820 --> 00:46:30.420
I've been to South America. And this is absolutely

00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:33.199
fantastic. And I think gratitude spiritually

00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.340
is a spiritual mindset because I believe that

00:46:36.340 --> 00:46:40.179
more is supplied. So gratitude is a big one for

00:46:40.179 --> 00:46:43.110
me. Grateful means that you've got a higher energy,

00:46:43.230 --> 00:46:45.449
that you're more loving and that you'll give

00:46:45.449 --> 00:46:47.590
back. So I really like the fact that you had

00:46:47.590 --> 00:46:49.869
said that. And then the people are not, they're

00:46:49.869 --> 00:46:53.539
always angry. They're angry. They hate this.

00:46:53.780 --> 00:46:57.059
Don't wave the flag. Don't hate us. It's just

00:46:57.059 --> 00:47:00.079
crazy. Now, are we poisoned to think that? Is

00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.280
that the media doing that? Yeah, there's that.

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:05.440
Let's not get with the media. It's called the

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.440
mockingbird media. So that's terrible, isn't

00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.099
it? Because we're told how terrible this country

00:47:11.099 --> 00:47:14.920
is, and it's really not subjective. Look at communist

00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.880
countries. Cuba, okay? What is Castro? What's

00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.500
the first thing he did? He took over properties,

00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.360
people's properties. He controlled the media.

00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.420
He controlled the schools. He was teaching the

00:47:27.420 --> 00:47:33.320
kids to make them little Marxists. It's pure

00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:38.840
control. And there's no freedom. I remember I

00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:42.380
was on a radio show one time discussing a similar

00:47:42.380 --> 00:47:44.789
topic, and a guy who... called in and he says,

00:47:44.849 --> 00:47:50.570
yeah, but they got the highest literacy rate

00:47:50.570 --> 00:47:53.289
than most countries. And I said, if that's true,

00:47:53.449 --> 00:47:55.929
that's great. But what good is it if they tell

00:47:55.929 --> 00:47:59.489
you what to read? Client. Yeah, you can read

00:47:59.489 --> 00:48:01.010
all you want, but here's what you're going to

00:48:01.010 --> 00:48:04.849
read. So right now we have this big thing. The

00:48:04.849 --> 00:48:07.269
past five years, there's been... Open borders,

00:48:07.389 --> 00:48:09.409
pretty much. It's, come on in. We're going to

00:48:09.409 --> 00:48:12.130
give you a $5 ,000 credit card or debit card.

00:48:12.969 --> 00:48:15.510
That's the story. And a hotel room. That's the

00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:18.050
story. A $500 a night hotel room. That's the

00:48:18.050 --> 00:48:22.130
story. But if the story is true, we've got all

00:48:22.130 --> 00:48:24.409
these people coming in, doing what they want,

00:48:24.449 --> 00:48:27.530
when they want. You came in legally. You paid

00:48:27.530 --> 00:48:35.289
your dues. How does this make you feel? It's

00:48:35.289 --> 00:48:37.650
disgusting. I'm sorry. So you believe in immigration?

00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:41.010
Listen, I believe in immigration. If there's

00:48:41.010 --> 00:48:44.449
a problem with our immigration system, then change

00:48:44.449 --> 00:48:48.389
the law. Make it easier. Make it whatever you

00:48:48.389 --> 00:48:51.750
want to do. But to open the floodgates without

00:48:51.750 --> 00:48:55.429
knowing who's... Can you imagine how many potential

00:48:55.429 --> 00:48:59.670
terrorists are in here without us knowing? How

00:48:59.670 --> 00:49:02.650
many people hate this country that are coming

00:49:02.650 --> 00:49:07.309
to destroy it? I feel sorry for those, I even

00:49:07.309 --> 00:49:10.590
feel sorry for those who came in illegally and

00:49:10.590 --> 00:49:13.789
are hardworking with kids and now have to pay

00:49:13.789 --> 00:49:17.750
the price because of the administration before

00:49:17.750 --> 00:49:21.289
us. They opened the floodgate. I feel sorry for

00:49:21.289 --> 00:49:24.349
them. I wish they could have, there could have

00:49:24.349 --> 00:49:26.210
been a way that you say, okay, listen, you've

00:49:26.210 --> 00:49:30.849
been here 40 years. I don't believe, I can't

00:49:30.849 --> 00:49:33.480
believe. You haven't done anything about it,

00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.659
but we'll try. But we're at a point where it's

00:49:36.659 --> 00:49:40.400
too late for that. Estimates say, what, 10 million?

00:49:40.659 --> 00:49:43.340
I don't know. Yeah, I've heard up to 10 million,

00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.559
yeah. But let me ask you, let me give you a little

00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.920
bit of hope. I'm a former military special operator.

00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.179
Sun Tzu, with the art of war, says don't let

00:49:54.179 --> 00:49:56.159
your enemies know what you're doing, right? You

00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.920
appear strong when you're weak and appear weak

00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.730
when you're strong. What if the borders weren't

00:50:01.730 --> 00:50:05.849
really opened? What if we needed to put a honeypot

00:50:05.849 --> 00:50:08.710
out there so that they come into the border and

00:50:08.710 --> 00:50:11.710
we give them a credit card, a debit card, and

00:50:11.710 --> 00:50:14.389
we could literally use the Space Force to track

00:50:14.389 --> 00:50:17.260
every place they went and map it out? and find

00:50:17.260 --> 00:50:19.320
out exactly who they were, where they were, how

00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.800
they transacted business, so that we can then

00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.639
use special operators to get them all at once,

00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.059
drain the whole swamp. What are your thoughts

00:50:27.059 --> 00:50:29.179
about it? Would you be encouraged if that proved

00:50:29.179 --> 00:50:31.760
to be the case? I would, but I'll be honest with

00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:33.280
you, I don't think the Biden administration is

00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.159
smart enough to come up with that. So do you

00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:39.360
think, and we'll talk, this is a Studio 17 topic,

00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.619
but have you ever taken a look at the pictures

00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:47.300
of Joe Biden from 20 years ago? versus the one

00:50:47.300 --> 00:50:50.760
that they put up in the show, do you think it's

00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.019
the same person? I don't know. I'm just saying.

00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.980
I'm not telling you the answer. I don't know.

00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.099
I'm not saying it, but when you look at the two

00:51:00.099 --> 00:51:03.159
images, they don't look a lot alike, my friend.

00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.039
So I'm just going to suggest that maybe we ask

00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:08.460
good questions about who was this four -year

00:51:08.460 --> 00:51:11.500
president and who was the real president. And

00:51:11.500 --> 00:51:14.159
when you look at President Trump for the past,

00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:17.420
since his first term, And you look at his cap

00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:23.460
and it says 45 -47. Maybe he was the 46th president,

00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:26.679
too, behind the scenes. Maybe I'm wrong, but

00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.480
that seems very, very suspicious to me. I think

00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:32.400
maybe the 46th might have been Obama. But there's

00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.000
so many. And even the Obama you see. We don't

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.039
know. So it's not this show. This is a different

00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.630
show. Yeah. But because this is about your journey,

00:51:41.690 --> 00:51:43.829
but I'm just giving, I'm saying that we need

00:51:43.829 --> 00:51:46.449
to ask better questions about what we think happened

00:51:46.449 --> 00:51:49.449
over the Biden administration. Oh, just not repeat

00:51:49.449 --> 00:51:53.929
it. Quick comment, and we'll switch topic if

00:51:53.929 --> 00:51:59.449
you like. I believe that the people were kind

00:51:59.449 --> 00:52:05.150
of waking up. They were realizing that what's

00:52:05.150 --> 00:52:07.829
been told to them has been a lie for many years.

00:52:08.670 --> 00:52:12.630
And I think the Democrats needed voters. I think

00:52:12.630 --> 00:52:14.869
they opened the gate. They started handing out

00:52:14.869 --> 00:52:19.170
social securities and licenses for potential

00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:24.090
voters. So what I hear you saying is they spent

00:52:24.090 --> 00:52:28.050
four years waking people up, waking people up.

00:52:28.090 --> 00:52:30.889
They spent four years waking people up. Is that

00:52:30.889 --> 00:52:33.409
pretty fair? Well, no, I think people woke up.

00:52:33.489 --> 00:52:35.730
So you think it was accidental or not intentional?

00:52:36.010 --> 00:52:42.989
Well, I think the waking up was probably Trump's

00:52:42.989 --> 00:52:46.809
fight for this country. Whether you like Trump

00:52:46.809 --> 00:52:52.989
or not, listen, he was aggressive. I guess the

00:52:52.989 --> 00:52:56.940
bottom line, and put the name Trump aside. But

00:52:56.940 --> 00:52:59.280
the man proved that this country would probably

00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.699
run better with a businessman than with politicians.

00:53:02.099 --> 00:53:06.440
Yeah, I don't put Trump aside. I'm unapologetic.

00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:11.239
I call him Commander Trump because we're in a

00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:13.840
military operation right now. I did not vote

00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.219
for him. I voted for the libertarian because

00:53:17.219 --> 00:53:23.639
I wouldn't vote for Hillary. I wouldn't vote

00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:26.019
for her. And I wanted to vote for the person

00:53:26.019 --> 00:53:28.679
that was the most disruptive, which would have

00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.019
been the independent libertarian. So I voted.

00:53:32.260 --> 00:53:34.880
But immediately thereafter, in fact, I sent a

00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:36.960
letter to President Trump when he came down the

00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.840
escalator. I sent a letter saying, I read that.

00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:43.440
Saying, you got a pretty stout. Wrote ahead of

00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.800
you. I'll be your vice president. That's a great

00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.360
letter. That's good advice for him. And I said,

00:53:48.380 --> 00:53:50.139
I got some tips for you. I'll tell you a quick

00:53:50.139 --> 00:53:54.719
story. I wrote a song called USA. Oh, good. Is

00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.300
that the one you sent me? I sent you two. Red,

00:53:57.300 --> 00:54:00.019
White, and Blue is about my journey from Cuba

00:54:00.019 --> 00:54:03.480
to the United States. USA is about our country

00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.860
in general. There we go. And it was a great song.

00:54:07.059 --> 00:54:11.909
And it's funny because the... Catch to the song

00:54:11.909 --> 00:54:17.690
is USA and people singing USA, US. So I get a

00:54:17.690 --> 00:54:25.329
call from a prominent television station in South

00:54:25.329 --> 00:54:28.889
Florida. And he said, hey, we heard your song.

00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:32.070
I said, we have a project. Would you mind us

00:54:32.070 --> 00:54:34.969
using the song? And I said, well, you know, they

00:54:34.969 --> 00:54:39.179
couldn't reveal who it was, but I said. Listen,

00:54:39.260 --> 00:54:44.119
I've gotten calls from the liberals, and I refuse.

00:54:44.860 --> 00:54:47.179
I don't want to step into it. He says, no, this

00:54:47.179 --> 00:54:49.239
will be the total opposite. So I said, okay.

00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.440
So two months later, I get a YouTube video, and

00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:55.800
it was President Trump with my song. Oh, beautiful.

00:54:56.239 --> 00:55:01.500
So for those of you listening to this broadcast,

00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.380
you heard 20 or 30 seconds of music prior to.

00:55:06.190 --> 00:55:09.190
the, the podcast, but then, uh, at the end, right

00:55:09.190 --> 00:55:10.969
after this discussion, you're going to hear the

00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:13.909
entire song. Yeah. Uh, one at one that Carlos

00:55:13.909 --> 00:55:17.150
made. Let me, so I was going to say, let's, I

00:55:17.150 --> 00:55:19.369
was going to share my music experience if you

00:55:19.369 --> 00:55:20.829
like, cause I don't think we'd touch. Yeah. I

00:55:20.829 --> 00:55:22.309
was going to say, let's, since we're talking

00:55:22.309 --> 00:55:25.070
about music anyway, like, is that okay with you,

00:55:25.110 --> 00:55:27.489
Sarah? Yeah. Right. So let's talk about music.

00:55:27.510 --> 00:55:29.309
Cause we all love music. And you know, I was

00:55:29.309 --> 00:55:31.030
a big fan. Of course, when I was growing up,

00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:33.590
I was a big fan of James Taylor, uh, the young

00:55:33.590 --> 00:55:36.980
rascals. I mean, This is some beautiful music.

00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:44.559
And while my wife was going through cancer, 2007,

00:55:45.219 --> 00:55:48.260
2008, 2009, I picked up the guitar again, and

00:55:48.260 --> 00:55:51.800
I started writing music. And I said, you know

00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.099
what? I said, I got extra money now. I'm doing

00:55:55.099 --> 00:55:57.840
well. I said, I'm going to go record an album.

00:55:58.300 --> 00:56:01.860
So I drove down to Miami with an old friend that

00:56:01.860 --> 00:56:06.590
has been very successful. This man has recorded

00:56:06.590 --> 00:56:10.130
with Barbra Streisand. He's recorded with, oh,

00:56:10.250 --> 00:56:14.050
I mean, he toured with Barry Gibbs. The guy was,

00:56:14.150 --> 00:56:18.789
four Grammys. I mean, awesome. And I say, well,

00:56:18.869 --> 00:56:22.530
if I can just get him to say, hey, okay, this

00:56:22.530 --> 00:56:25.869
is good enough. I'll help you produce and I'll

00:56:25.869 --> 00:56:28.349
be happy. And had you been singing throughout

00:56:28.349 --> 00:56:30.670
that time? Like in the shower? You hadn't used

00:56:30.670 --> 00:56:33.800
your voice? No, I started all over again. And

00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:37.679
so I go down to Miami. I go to his studio. And,

00:56:37.699 --> 00:56:40.019
of course, we hug. Hey, how you been? I'm so

00:56:40.019 --> 00:56:42.559
proud of you. You've done so well. Because the

00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.579
guy is on the top of his field. And I said, so

00:56:46.579 --> 00:56:49.219
I grabbed the guitar and I played. And I played

00:56:49.219 --> 00:56:50.719
two or three songs. He said, play me a couple

00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:55.659
more. And so I play and he says, well, I said,

00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.219
why don't we do this? Let's get my brother in

00:56:58.219 --> 00:57:02.139
line and let's go ahead and do the album. And

00:57:02.139 --> 00:57:06.429
I said. But I want to be part of the band. And

00:57:06.429 --> 00:57:08.369
I said, what band? I said, the band we're going

00:57:08.369 --> 00:57:11.530
to form. And it's the Soulless Bravo Band. His

00:57:11.530 --> 00:57:14.269
last name is Bravo. So it's the Soulless Bravo

00:57:14.269 --> 00:57:16.869
Band. So here I got a four -time Grammy Award

00:57:16.869 --> 00:57:20.210
winner that's played with everybody. You sounded

00:57:20.210 --> 00:57:22.550
amazing. I listened to a lot of your tracks.

00:57:22.650 --> 00:57:25.969
They were just really amazing. So I put this

00:57:25.969 --> 00:57:29.420
band together. There's 10 of us. And I got the

00:57:29.420 --> 00:57:32.280
best of the best in South Florida. My horn section

00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:34.400
was some of the guys from Miami Sound Machine.

00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:39.000
Oh, gosh. It's just amazing. So we start playing.

00:57:39.579 --> 00:57:43.500
I start performing. And I'm saying, wow. I never

00:57:43.500 --> 00:57:47.519
thought in my later years that I'd be doing this.

00:57:47.619 --> 00:57:53.199
And every venue was full. And what I did was

00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.500
something a little different than most musicians.

00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:59.199
I didn't need the money. I mean, I wanted to

00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.699
pay my band. So I would find four or five sponsors,

00:58:02.860 --> 00:58:09.079
right? Each sponsors gave money. I got the location

00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:12.039
and we play only in theaters, big theaters. I

00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:18.199
didn't do local stuff. So I pay my band and all

00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:23.059
the ticket sales went to cancer. This is freaking

00:58:23.059 --> 00:58:24.639
me out a little bit. I'm just going to be honest

00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.820
because I can't see the name of my new band.

00:58:27.019 --> 00:58:30.320
Okay. But that business model is identical. Yes,

00:58:30.340 --> 00:58:32.699
it works. To what my new band's business model

00:58:32.699 --> 00:58:35.900
is. No, it works. Listen, the big companies are

00:58:35.900 --> 00:58:38.579
happy because their money went to the cancer.

00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:43.500
Not only that, but they let everybody in town,

00:58:43.699 --> 00:58:49.139
you know, we had full house, full house. And

00:58:49.139 --> 00:58:54.679
then my biggest night was going back to Miami.

00:58:55.340 --> 00:58:58.619
There's a place called, it was called the Parrot

00:58:58.619 --> 00:59:00.860
Jungle. It was a big, and it had a big theater,

00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.920
Pinecrest Gardens, big, big theater, outdoor

00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:11.480
with a dome. And so I'm going to perform. And

00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.719
I'm sitting in the green room in the back, and

00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.000
I'm listening to all these laughters and people

00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:21.980
laughing. And it's just packed, standing room

00:59:21.980 --> 00:59:26.760
only. And I go out there. And I started bawling.

00:59:27.019 --> 00:59:31.179
I started crying. I looked, and they are all

00:59:31.179 --> 00:59:34.340
the kids I grew up with. Elementary, junior high.

00:59:34.380 --> 00:59:37.880
That's so beautiful. Three different gangs. They

00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:41.380
used to fight each other. A bunch of old farts.

00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:44.860
They were all there. And I'm just saying, I can't

00:59:44.860 --> 00:59:49.519
believe this. Wow. And an incredible night. So

00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.800
what's the status of your band right now? Well,

00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:55.760
what happened, COVID came. And, of course, everything

00:59:55.760 --> 01:00:00.059
stopped. I kept writing. And then after COVID,

01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:04.059
I got a phone call from Richard, my drummer.

01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:08.440
Is he down in Miami still? Oh, yeah. He travels.

01:00:08.699 --> 01:00:13.639
There's a very well -known, popular Latin singer

01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.079
called Juanes. He tours with Juanes, and he tours

01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.900
with Barry Gibbs. And he's calling me, hey, we

01:00:20.900 --> 01:00:22.780
got to start. We got to start again. We got to

01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:26.239
start. And I said, shit, I can't do this again.

01:00:26.539 --> 01:00:30.099
I just tired. Yeah. Because I had to do it all.

01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.420
I found the venue. I negotiated the contract.

01:00:33.980 --> 01:00:40.940
I promoted the, I found the sponsors. Yeah. You

01:00:40.940 --> 01:00:42.820
know. Wrote, played, sung. And I told Rich, I

01:00:42.820 --> 01:00:46.900
said, you come and. and you leave. You do everything

01:00:46.900 --> 01:00:49.059
else. And that's one thing people don't get,

01:00:49.139 --> 01:00:50.960
because I had a band down in Jupiter, Florida,

01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:54.119
and I did everything. And that's a lot of work,

01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.179
plus play bass. People have no idea, if you're

01:00:58.179 --> 01:00:59.940
going to play out with a band, how many moving

01:00:59.940 --> 01:01:02.079
parts there are, even just the stage set up and

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.119
the venue and all this. But I admire what you

01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.059
did, and I get it. So what I was going to do,

01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:09.650
our business model diverges a little bit. Because

01:01:09.650 --> 01:01:11.789
I'm not going to have corporate sponsors. I avoid

01:01:11.789 --> 01:01:14.429
corporations, but I do want to support charities.

01:01:14.550 --> 01:01:17.170
So I have a mechanism for that. Also, I'm going

01:01:17.170 --> 01:01:20.969
to be treating my business manager as if he or

01:01:20.969 --> 01:01:24.429
she is a member of the band. And you have to.

01:01:24.570 --> 01:01:26.530
Absolutely. Whatever the drummer gets, you get.

01:01:26.590 --> 01:01:28.309
Whatever the singer gets, you get. And I'll help

01:01:28.309 --> 01:01:30.050
you. You let me know. Yeah, I'm going to ask

01:01:30.050 --> 01:01:32.269
you. I'm happy to do it. When I shut off the

01:01:32.269 --> 01:01:34.110
mics, I'm going to tell you the name of the band.

01:01:34.250 --> 01:01:36.539
Okay. And you're going to laugh your... butt

01:01:36.539 --> 01:01:39.639
off you're gonna love it and you're gonna want

01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:40.980
to be you're gonna want to promote it because

01:01:40.980 --> 01:01:44.280
it's i'll help you absolutely you know i i the

01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:46.699
only thing i missed i have several things but

01:01:46.699 --> 01:01:49.820
what i miss it's not only sharing my music but

01:01:49.820 --> 01:01:53.500
sharing my story because my concerts were not

01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:56.920
just music it was a relationship every song had

01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.960
a story i wrote a song this i wrote a song called

01:01:59.960 --> 01:02:03.679
you're not alone and i wrote it for my wife beautiful

01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:08.559
song talking about I Will Be By Your Side to

01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.500
These Times of Pain and Sorrow, a beautiful song.

01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:16.099
And then we were recording it, and I get to the

01:02:16.099 --> 01:02:21.500
studio, and my producer, I asked when my sax

01:02:21.500 --> 01:02:24.739
player was coming. Well, Camilo could not come.

01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:28.340
He was sick. One feeling goes, so this guy walks

01:02:28.340 --> 01:02:31.550
in. with a sax that looks like it's from the

01:02:31.550 --> 01:02:36.409
1940s, you know, and long hair like this. And

01:02:36.409 --> 01:02:39.829
he walks in, and I said, who did we get? And

01:02:39.829 --> 01:02:43.929
he says, that's Charlie Deschamps. I said, who's

01:02:43.929 --> 01:02:45.570
Charlie Deschamps? He says, that's the sax player

01:02:45.570 --> 01:02:49.610
for Hall & Oates. Oh, wow. So we give him the

01:02:49.610 --> 01:02:52.710
charts, you know, because you have all the charts

01:02:52.710 --> 01:02:55.969
on how the sax is going to sound. We give him

01:02:55.969 --> 01:03:00.110
the charts, and one take. I pay him by the hour.

01:03:00.150 --> 01:03:03.530
It was unfair. I paid him more because I felt

01:03:03.530 --> 01:03:08.610
he did it so quickly. But after he plays it,

01:03:08.610 --> 01:03:10.730
I push the button and I say, Charlie, do me a

01:03:10.730 --> 01:03:13.329
favor. Are you comfortable? Just do your own

01:03:13.329 --> 01:03:16.309
thing. Forget the charts. Good for you. Here

01:03:16.309 --> 01:03:20.070
I got a Grammy Award winning. Good for you. I'm

01:03:20.070 --> 01:03:22.769
going to control them with my stupid charts.

01:03:23.170 --> 01:03:27.289
And so he did. And that's the take. And when

01:03:27.289 --> 01:03:29.130
you hear the song, that was him, that was mine,

01:03:29.150 --> 01:03:33.170
that was not me. It is amazing. And so I'm going

01:03:33.170 --> 01:03:34.690
to tell you this story, just a very personal

01:03:34.690 --> 01:03:38.409
story. Right here, I was here, right here was

01:03:38.409 --> 01:03:42.590
a, there was a sax player, his name's Rob. He

01:03:42.590 --> 01:03:47.210
used to play for, he plays the Vegas show. Okay.

01:03:47.250 --> 01:03:49.010
And he was with my previous band, the Phil Collins

01:03:49.010 --> 01:03:52.670
Tribute Band. He was here, I was here, and we

01:03:52.670 --> 01:03:56.150
were playing a Phil Collins tune. And it had

01:03:56.150 --> 01:03:58.909
a pretty complex bass line, but I'm self -taught.

01:03:58.969 --> 01:04:02.849
I never took any lessons. Same with me. I would

01:04:02.849 --> 01:04:04.769
literally have to. And one thing we have in common

01:04:04.769 --> 01:04:09.210
is the James Taylor bass player was the same

01:04:09.210 --> 01:04:11.650
one for Phil Collins, right? Yeah. So Leland

01:04:11.650 --> 01:04:16.010
Sklar. So I would literally watch videos on Leland

01:04:16.010 --> 01:04:18.010
Sklar, and I would see his hands. I would see

01:04:18.010 --> 01:04:20.429
his technique. I'd see how he played. I studied

01:04:20.429 --> 01:04:24.199
him 100 hours. for each song, just studying it.

01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:25.980
I'm not lying. No, no, I believe you. Just every

01:04:25.980 --> 01:04:29.880
slide, everything. And so Rob was standing here.

01:04:29.940 --> 01:04:34.780
His name's Rob Nader. And we finished the tune

01:04:34.780 --> 01:04:36.699
right here. And there was like nine of us in

01:04:36.699 --> 01:04:41.579
the studio here. And he says, you played that

01:04:41.579 --> 01:04:45.039
exactly like Leland Sklar. Wow. And I cried.

01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.699
I mean, I was, I'm not going to lie. I was emotional

01:04:48.699 --> 01:04:51.300
to have a professional like him, the sax player,

01:04:51.380 --> 01:04:54.400
that's freaking one of the top, top 10 in the

01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.800
country. Yeah. Tell you that. Tell me that I

01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.280
was so emotional because I'm just a scrapper

01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:02.360
kid, Detroit kid, right? It's just from the streets.

01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.219
Cause you're in the streets of Miami. I was treated

01:05:04.219 --> 01:05:07.420
Detroit. In fact, the movie Eminem, I don't know

01:05:07.420 --> 01:05:09.840
if you ever saw the eight mile, eight mile. I

01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.070
knew all those streets. My brother and I watched

01:05:12.070 --> 01:05:13.730
the movie. We're laughing. We're like, Oh yeah,

01:05:13.750 --> 01:05:15.929
that's outer drive. That's yeah. We knew. So

01:05:15.929 --> 01:05:20.010
I get you and I admire you so much. Yeah. So,

01:05:20.010 --> 01:05:23.050
um, so we talked about music. We talked about

01:05:23.050 --> 01:05:25.929
sports. We talked about America. What else? What

01:05:25.929 --> 01:05:28.869
are we missing? So it sounds to me that you've

01:05:28.869 --> 01:05:31.750
had some hardships and some suffering, especially

01:05:31.750 --> 01:05:33.469
with what happened with your wife. That was probably

01:05:33.469 --> 01:05:35.670
difficult. But she's alive and well now. And

01:05:35.670 --> 01:05:38.429
I got cancer afterwards. Oh, really? Did you?

01:05:38.530 --> 01:05:42.150
Yeah. So tell me a bit about that. What role

01:05:42.150 --> 01:05:47.429
has faith played? Oh, tremendous. You know, when

01:05:47.429 --> 01:05:53.969
I was growing up, the only time that I reached

01:05:53.969 --> 01:05:58.349
out, was when I got in trouble. When I knew either

01:05:58.349 --> 01:06:00.829
I'm going to go to jail or they caught me or

01:06:00.829 --> 01:06:03.949
the cop would be behind me when I had stolen

01:06:03.949 --> 01:06:06.630
the car and I'm saying, oh shit, I'm waiting

01:06:06.630 --> 01:06:10.730
for the lights to turn on and then I pray. But

01:06:10.730 --> 01:06:13.949
then when everything's over, you seem to forget

01:06:13.949 --> 01:06:18.190
it. But as you get older, you look back and you

01:06:18.190 --> 01:06:21.989
start realizing there's no coincidence. The things

01:06:21.989 --> 01:06:28.989
that have happened to me were... It was just

01:06:28.989 --> 01:06:35.150
amazing how any turn, I would have been dead.

01:06:35.630 --> 01:06:39.190
And then what really hit me was with my wife.

01:06:39.869 --> 01:06:43.869
When she got cancer, the business, the guy shows

01:06:43.869 --> 01:06:47.730
up. Yeah. We sell it at the price that I want

01:06:47.730 --> 01:06:52.909
it. Then I buy it back for, oh, my God. I wish

01:06:52.909 --> 01:06:59.030
I could. All right, listen. I sold it for enough

01:06:59.030 --> 01:07:03.010
to be able to buy two or three houses. I bought

01:07:03.010 --> 01:07:07.010
it back for a price of a used car. Wow. Okay?

01:07:07.570 --> 01:07:12.050
So, and at that point, it's when I said, wait

01:07:12.050 --> 01:07:16.829
a minute, this is too much to ignore. Yeah, the

01:07:16.829 --> 01:07:19.260
synchronicities. And my faith just went. Yeah.

01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:22.340
Yeah. I got baptized. So your faith was strengthened

01:07:22.340 --> 01:07:25.320
as a result of seeing God in action, basically.

01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:30.000
More than strengthened. I finally found it because

01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:34.480
the rest of it was phony. You know, yeah, I need

01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:36.500
him. I need, you know, and all of a sudden you

01:07:36.500 --> 01:07:38.719
forget and you're out doing. It's almost like

01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:42.260
God's transactional. Like it's. God's there when

01:07:42.260 --> 01:07:44.639
you need God, and God's there when you don't

01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:47.480
need God. It's just all transactional. And you

01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:52.199
eventually realize that there's a plan. There's

01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:55.780
something for me in this life that I'm supposed

01:07:55.780 --> 01:08:01.639
to share, give back, whether it's my music, me

01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:06.760
being here speaking, whatever it is. Yeah, to

01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:10.840
answer your question. Yes, it's amazing when

01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:15.820
you really look back and you realize that God's

01:08:15.820 --> 01:08:17.939
always been there. I hand to God all over. I

01:08:17.939 --> 01:08:20.220
just haven't been paying attention. Right. So,

01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:23.359
Carlos, when you say there was a plan. Is your

01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:27.180
idea that your soul existed and God was this

01:08:27.180 --> 01:08:30.100
general and you were the sergeant and God said,

01:08:30.140 --> 01:08:31.800
look, I need you to go in there and do this.

01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.359
And that's the plan. Or was the plan something

01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:37.039
that you came up with and said, yeah, you know

01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:39.579
what? In order to make myself bigger, stronger,

01:08:39.659 --> 01:08:43.329
a better soul, a better spirit. We agree to these

01:08:43.329 --> 01:08:45.350
terms and you're going to immerse me into this

01:08:45.350 --> 01:08:48.109
human experience. I mean, what's the plan? I

01:08:48.109 --> 01:08:50.609
could have all the plans in the world. So do

01:08:50.609 --> 01:08:52.430
you think the plan is yours or somebody else's?

01:08:52.470 --> 01:08:55.989
No, I think that's God's plan. So you're a pawn

01:08:55.989 --> 01:09:01.529
in God's... I'm here to serve him. In other words,

01:09:01.649 --> 01:09:05.529
I could have all the plans I want. Listen, I

01:09:05.529 --> 01:09:08.489
wanted to win a Grammy. Okay. There's a lot of

01:09:08.489 --> 01:09:11.270
things. We can still do this. You know, there's

01:09:11.270 --> 01:09:15.449
a lot of plans that I had that just didn't happen.

01:09:15.510 --> 01:09:19.449
Well, but it wasn't meant to, you know, you know,

01:09:19.449 --> 01:09:20.970
you know, but do you think that's part of the

01:09:20.970 --> 01:09:23.729
plan is the idea that you, cause I always teach

01:09:23.729 --> 01:09:26.670
my entrepreneur groups and O means new opportunity.

01:09:26.729 --> 01:09:28.569
That means you have to rethink what's going on

01:09:28.569 --> 01:09:32.869
here. You could take the road, but it doesn't

01:09:32.869 --> 01:09:35.109
mean that's the road for you. And you're going

01:09:35.109 --> 01:09:37.510
to realize that there's a dead end to that road,

01:09:37.569 --> 01:09:39.369
and you're going to find another road. And do

01:09:39.369 --> 01:09:41.550
you think that God gets you back on the road

01:09:41.550 --> 01:09:46.489
if you get knocked off? Look, I think I am blessed.

01:09:47.329 --> 01:09:50.489
I am blessed as a human being. I'm blessed because

01:09:50.489 --> 01:09:54.750
I got a fantastic wife. She has 48 years of marriage,

01:09:54.930 --> 01:09:57.409
up and down. She's been through hell with me.

01:09:57.489 --> 01:10:03.859
And she came from a wealthy family. She was not

01:10:03.859 --> 01:10:06.359
from the project. She, you know, I lived in Little

01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.180
Havana in the project. She lived in Coral Gables

01:10:08.180 --> 01:10:12.340
Estates. And that's, you know, but yet she stuck

01:10:12.340 --> 01:10:15.119
with me. We got married. We lived in a one -bedroom

01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:20.460
little apartment. We raised three great kids.

01:10:20.659 --> 01:10:25.300
I got three great kids. I'm blessed. Yes, you

01:10:25.300 --> 01:10:31.279
certainly are. I'm blessed. And so I think I've

01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:37.340
done. Whatever God's put me here, my family probably

01:10:37.340 --> 01:10:40.859
was number one. Yes. That's beautiful. And then

01:10:40.859 --> 01:10:44.300
maybe my music, maybe sharing my story, because

01:10:44.300 --> 01:10:46.779
I love sharing my story. So what's next for you?

01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.380
You've checked the boxes. I mean, look at all

01:10:49.380 --> 01:10:51.420
the things he's checked in his life. So what's

01:10:51.420 --> 01:10:54.840
next? I've got another book coming out. It's

01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:57.060
about my wife and I's travels throughout the

01:10:57.060 --> 01:10:59.619
Southeast United States. Oh, beautiful. It talks

01:10:59.619 --> 01:11:05.439
about we went to Savannah. uh helen georgia and

01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:08.659
and uh and we talk about our travels what restaurants

01:11:08.659 --> 01:11:11.380
we went to what we did and and so it's like a

01:11:11.380 --> 01:11:14.600
travel guide so i'm almost done with that i'm

01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:18.420
continuing to write i have i have a book a huge

01:11:18.420 --> 01:11:22.899
book of music the problem is i don't have the

01:11:22.899 --> 01:11:26.279
kind of money that i can spend thirty thousand

01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:32.350
dollars on an album you know uh You have to look

01:11:32.350 --> 01:11:36.609
at AI technology to assist you. No, I want live

01:11:36.609 --> 01:11:41.430
musicians. So when you're writing music, where

01:11:41.430 --> 01:11:44.869
do you get your inspiration? Is this something

01:11:44.869 --> 01:11:47.029
that's planned or is it happening as you're sitting

01:11:47.029 --> 01:11:49.029
down? No, it's traveling. When I travel the country,

01:11:49.210 --> 01:11:51.949
like for instance, a little town up in northern

01:11:51.949 --> 01:11:54.880
Tennessee called Mountain City, Tennessee. Small

01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.439
little town, which we love the small towns. I

01:11:57.439 --> 01:11:59.079
don't do the big. Call out to Mountain City,

01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:04.060
Tennessee. Yeah. And there's a little campground

01:12:04.060 --> 01:12:11.819
there on a stream. And I go sit down by the stream,

01:12:11.899 --> 01:12:15.340
grab my guitar. I just start plugging away. And

01:12:15.340 --> 01:12:18.600
all of a sudden. chord progression comes, and

01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:22.279
a melody comes, and the lyrics are the last.

01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:26.460
They're the last for me. I'm not the type that

01:12:26.460 --> 01:12:29.140
does the lyrics and then puts a song to it. In

01:12:29.140 --> 01:12:36.180
fact, we were in Kentucky, and we were driving

01:12:36.180 --> 01:12:40.819
to Tennessee, and we're on a road, and I was

01:12:40.819 --> 01:12:46.119
teasing my wife. I told my wife, I said, you

01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:48.159
know, I got lucky in Kentucky. And she started

01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:52.180
laughing. And I said, damn, that's a song. Yes,

01:12:52.180 --> 01:12:54.699
it is. And I wrote a song. I got lucky in Kentucky.

01:12:54.779 --> 01:12:56.399
That's really sweet. But isn't that the way things

01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:58.539
work? Yeah. I mean, you know, you don't know

01:12:58.539 --> 01:13:01.060
much about our podcast, but we started off a

01:13:01.060 --> 01:13:04.000
year and a few days ago, maybe 14 months ago.

01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.989
We had no idea. We didn't think we'd have guests.

01:13:08.310 --> 01:13:11.489
Now having guests is like, it's a gas. I mean,

01:13:11.550 --> 01:13:14.609
I love meeting people like you. So what questions

01:13:14.609 --> 01:13:19.119
do you have for us? My goodness. And maybe none.

01:13:19.260 --> 01:13:22.920
No, I mean, I think we shared your story. You

01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:26.699
shared your story. I just hope your podcast just

01:13:26.699 --> 01:13:29.579
takes off. Well, we're not doing it for money.

01:13:29.659 --> 01:13:31.119
We're not doing it for notoriety. No, but we

01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:33.039
want to reach people. We just want to send good

01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.960
stories to the people. I think our message is

01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.560
one of hope. How has your thought with this podcast,

01:13:40.739 --> 01:13:43.710
how has it morphed over the past? Year and a

01:13:43.710 --> 01:13:47.590
half. I think we started out as two women wanting

01:13:47.590 --> 01:13:49.590
to get to know each other. And we decided to

01:13:49.590 --> 01:13:51.789
do that over the mic because we didn't really

01:13:51.789 --> 01:13:53.750
know each other. We'd been introduced. So our

01:13:53.750 --> 01:13:57.750
friendship has evolved over lifetime, over 66

01:13:57.750 --> 01:14:00.729
episodes. And we surprised each other. We did.

01:14:00.729 --> 01:14:02.930
And we don't always agree. And we can get pretty

01:14:02.930 --> 01:14:05.489
heated over subjects. But we talk about ideas,

01:14:05.689 --> 01:14:08.449
solutions to problems. And we just go anywhere.

01:14:08.750 --> 01:14:10.850
I mean, there's not really a subject that we

01:14:10.850 --> 01:14:13.189
haven't covered. I have one. One last question

01:14:13.189 --> 01:14:17.329
I wanted to ask you. So parenting, that's quite

01:14:17.329 --> 01:14:19.449
a difficult job to get right, isn't it? Absolutely.

01:14:19.470 --> 01:14:22.170
And there's no education for it. There's no school

01:14:22.170 --> 01:14:27.729
for it. Yeah. You know, my, I guess what helped

01:14:27.729 --> 01:14:29.590
me was the fact that I probably did everything

01:14:29.590 --> 01:14:32.449
that we're going to do. And I, and I will catch

01:14:32.449 --> 01:14:37.210
them. Yes. That's fascinating. Because I've got

01:14:37.210 --> 01:14:40.840
four children in the same thing. You got to let

01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:43.680
them get away with some things. Give them the

01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:45.800
boundaries. Could you tell if they were lying

01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.239
to you? Excuse me? Could you tell if they were

01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:52.239
lying to you, your children? Could you tell if

01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:55.920
they were lying? Oh, yeah. My wife was real good

01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:59.119
because my wife, they would come home and we

01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:01.460
hadn't heard anything. And my wife would say,

01:15:01.579 --> 01:15:05.039
you want to tell me something? Nothing had happened.

01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.420
Interrogation. Isn't there something you want

01:15:08.420 --> 01:15:12.050
to tell me? Well, who are you talking to? Just

01:15:12.050 --> 01:15:13.369
tell me. There's something you want to tell me

01:15:13.369 --> 01:15:15.770
before you get in trouble. All of a sudden, I

01:15:15.770 --> 01:15:20.829
didn't mean to do that. Yeah, I know. But I was

01:15:20.829 --> 01:15:24.449
firm. I was firm with her friends. My house was

01:15:24.449 --> 01:15:27.550
full of kids. Was it? Yes, mine was too. They

01:15:27.550 --> 01:15:31.029
must have been very comfortable then. Well, I

01:15:31.029 --> 01:15:36.449
have one kid that, of course, he was taking drugs.

01:15:38.870 --> 01:15:41.970
I didn't want my kids messing with any of that.

01:15:42.390 --> 01:15:44.710
And they knew it. And they knew I never did.

01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:50.850
So the guy comes over, oh, Mr. Sola, is Charlie

01:15:50.850 --> 01:15:55.010
home? And he's all red -eyed. And I said, hey,

01:15:55.189 --> 01:15:57.510
what have I told you? He says, what do you mean?

01:15:57.569 --> 01:16:02.810
I said, you're high. And, oh, no, man, no, man.

01:16:02.989 --> 01:16:05.529
I said, yeah, you're high. I said, don't. Don't

01:16:05.529 --> 01:16:08.390
come to my house high. Now, you go back home,

01:16:08.489 --> 01:16:11.710
and when you get feeling a little better and

01:16:11.710 --> 01:16:14.170
something, you can come back. So he comes back

01:16:14.170 --> 01:16:18.890
the second time, and he's high again. So he makes

01:16:18.890 --> 01:16:22.229
a comment. So I slapped him. Oh, yes, I dropped

01:16:22.229 --> 01:16:25.989
to the floor. And he says, shit, Mr. Sawyer,

01:16:26.050 --> 01:16:29.130
I'll tell you what, go. Go home, tell your daddy

01:16:29.130 --> 01:16:31.489
what I did, and if he wants some of it too, tell

01:16:31.489 --> 01:16:34.329
him to come see me. So a father called three

01:16:34.329 --> 01:16:37.069
days later, and he thanked me. Oh, did he? Yeah,

01:16:37.170 --> 01:16:39.250
he said, thanks. I said, maybe you should do

01:16:39.250 --> 01:16:40.810
some of that too. Yeah, that little shit. You

01:16:40.810 --> 01:16:42.329
should have listened to me the first time. And

01:16:42.329 --> 01:16:44.869
my kids will never let me forget it. That's it.

01:16:45.770 --> 01:16:48.590
I speak for myself, and I think Sarah would agree.

01:16:48.649 --> 01:16:50.949
This has been a great, great opportunity to get

01:16:50.949 --> 01:16:53.869
to know you better. I enjoyed meeting you all.

01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:57.439
It's been fun. And I'm looking forward to reading

01:16:57.439 --> 01:16:59.800
your book. Please do. I love biographies and

01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.640
memoirs. I've written one myself. Reach out to

01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.760
me after you read it. I'd like to get your...

01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:07.039
Let's do that. And you have some friends, too.

01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:08.920
You said you have a friend that you want me to

01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.859
interview on my other show. Yes. That would be

01:17:11.859 --> 01:17:17.119
for military. Rick Prado was in the street gangs

01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:21.539
that are involved with me in Miami. And he went

01:17:21.539 --> 01:17:26.340
and... was a rescue, first EMS, and then he wound

01:17:26.340 --> 01:17:31.060
up being a pararescue. Then the CIA recruited

01:17:31.060 --> 01:17:40.079
him. He went over to Nicaragua to train. He spent

01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:44.420
two or three years in the jungle training. Then

01:17:44.420 --> 01:17:47.319
from there, he went to two or three other places.

01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:50.340
He was in the task force to go find Osama bin

01:17:50.340 --> 01:17:54.939
Laden. Just a hell of a guy. Is he here locally?

01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.100
He's in St. Augustine. I might have to go and

01:17:58.100 --> 01:18:01.300
interview him because I'm relaunching my Studio

01:18:01.300 --> 01:18:03.539
17, but that would be the type of person I would

01:18:03.539 --> 01:18:06.460
interview. But you could do that because I have

01:18:06.460 --> 01:18:09.159
a radio station and I do broadcasts. You could

01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.119
do it over the phone. I'll reach out to him.

01:18:11.859 --> 01:18:13.760
Is he the two -star general you're talking about?

01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.300
Yes. Okay, great. Retired as a two -star general.

01:18:17.610 --> 01:18:20.569
Tough kid, tough kid in Miami, tough kid, you

01:18:20.569 --> 01:18:21.890
know, you have to be. That's beautiful, yeah.

01:18:22.090 --> 01:18:25.289
You have to be. But you could do it over the

01:18:25.289 --> 01:18:27.390
phone. Frank and I record, and I do it from Claremont.

01:18:27.390 --> 01:18:29.829
He's down at Deerfield Beach, and it's wonderful.

01:18:29.890 --> 01:18:31.130
It just goes on the phone through the panel.

01:18:31.130 --> 01:18:33.130
And I'm going to be doing, there's a new technology

01:18:33.130 --> 01:18:35.569
that'll record on his computer, so there's no,

01:18:35.689 --> 01:18:39.329
it's going to be. Very, very high fidelity on

01:18:39.329 --> 01:18:41.750
his computer. And then the whole file gets sent

01:18:41.750 --> 01:18:43.310
to me after the recording. He sounds like an

01:18:43.310 --> 01:18:46.109
interesting one. It's going to be good. You can

01:18:46.109 --> 01:18:49.210
look him up. He's on YouTube. He's done interviews.

01:18:49.449 --> 01:18:51.210
Sure, I'll find him. Everywhere. Well, there's

01:18:51.210 --> 01:18:54.109
another podcast that I have in the works. It's

01:18:54.109 --> 01:18:55.829
not launched yet, but it's called We the People

01:18:55.829 --> 01:18:58.710
Florida. Oh, okay. So that's going to be awesome.

01:18:58.850 --> 01:19:01.590
But it's not what you think it is. You see, I

01:19:01.590 --> 01:19:04.210
won't go there now. It's the close of the show.

01:19:04.250 --> 01:19:07.439
But We the People Florida is... It's not about

01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:10.640
America. It's not about Constitution. It's literally

01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:15.000
about individual sovereign souls, sovereign souls

01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:19.279
navigating this earth space in Florida. It's

01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:21.840
like a microcosm of this, but I get to go off

01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:25.479
outside the sandbox a little bit. Sometimes Sarah

01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:28.159
rolls her eyes. She's like, no, you're not saying

01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:30.380
that right now, are you? Did you just say that?

01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.340
Okay, so Sarah, close us out. Any last final

01:19:34.340 --> 01:19:36.119
thoughts? Well, it's been a pleasure talking

01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:38.119
to you. Thank you so much. I'm going to read

01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:40.739
your memoir and then we can talk again because

01:19:40.739 --> 01:19:42.359
I'm very curious. I'll have a lot of questions,

01:19:42.460 --> 01:19:44.720
I'm sure, and I'm looking forward to that. You've

01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:46.640
got amazing kids. They would love to talk to

01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:48.640
you as well. Thank you, they are. You're a wonderful

01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.100
person. Proud of them. Yeah. Carlos, how can

01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:53.520
people find out about your books, your music,

01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:55.699
your plans, your travels? I think the best way

01:19:55.699 --> 01:19:59.140
is if they go to soullessbravo .com. Okay, I'll

01:19:59.140 --> 01:20:00.500
put the link in the show notes. Yeah, that's

01:20:00.500 --> 01:20:02.899
my website. And from there, you can hear the

01:20:02.899 --> 01:20:05.579
music, you can get the book, you can see my life

01:20:05.579 --> 01:20:07.979
story. Everything's there. Okay, so I'll put

01:20:07.979 --> 01:20:10.000
that just one link on the show notes. Yeah, thank

01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.840
you. Soullessbravo .com. Great. And for those

01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:14.739
of you listening, you've been listening to Soul

01:20:14.739 --> 01:20:18.319
Decodes. This is episode 66. Our listenership

01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:21.039
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01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:23.520
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01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:26.159
going to enjoy some beautiful music from Carlos

01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:27.960
and his friends. Thank you. All right, thanks.

01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:29.399
I hope you enjoy the music and come back and

01:20:29.399 --> 01:21:04.479
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