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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join

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us as we wander off the path to find the ideas

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that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the

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mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with

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tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better

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life. Hello everybody and welcome. My name is

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Dr. Phillips and you're listening to Soul Decodes.

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This is episode 62. I'm with Sarah Tirri as

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usual, my co -hostess. Hi Sarah. Hi. And we have

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a guest I'm going to introduce in just a moment,

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but today's airing on October 24th. Let me get

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some... No, 23rd. Oh no, it's 24th tomorrow.

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Tomorrow's going to be the 24th. Yes, my son's

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birthday tomorrow. He's 33, Charlie. Happy birthday.

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So before we introduce our guest, I want to get

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some administrative stuff done. We're growing,

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and the reason is because so many people are

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sharing our show with others. This is going to

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come as a surprise to you, Sarah. Nothing surprises

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me. Nothing surprises you. What do you think

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our number one country is that's listening to

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our show? Russia. If you said the United States,

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you'd be correct. But our second, it even surprised

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me, it's Singapore. Lovely. And then the Netherlands.

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Those are our top three. United States, Singapore,

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Netherlands. Those are our top three. I'm so

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happy I've been to all of those places. It's

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lovely to have a visual when you mention this

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because I've been to a lot of them. So Singapore.

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I know, it's crazy. Well, here's some cities

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that popped onto our radar. I've never heard

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of these. This is... In America. This is it.

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Well, it's a couple of them. Three of them are

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in America. Colonial Beach, Virginia, which...

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I've never heard of it. Well, Virginia Beach

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is a beautiful, very spiritual place. So that's

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a new city that I just recognized. Kingston,

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Ontario, Canada. And then, believe it or not,

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Times Square, Manhattan, New York. Times Square.

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So hello to all of you new listeners. Thanks

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for popping on. And we have a place. You might

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know this. It's in England. It's a place called

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Kempston. Kempston. Kempston. Kempton. Kempton.

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Maybe I spelled it wrong. Kempton Park Racecourse,

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I know. Maybe I spelled it wrong. So anyway,

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we have a guest in the place here. And this has

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really nothing to do with me because Sarah said,

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guess what? We're going to have a guest. But

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you know what? This is our first ever guest on

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Soul Decode. So we're going to see how it goes.

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Why don't you tee this up for the listeners?

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Who is this person? Well, I don't know. I have

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no idea who he is. I just invited him on. Who

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is this person? I don't know anything about him,

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but we're about to get to know him. Okay, well,

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this is my friend Jim Young. And Sarah invited

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Jim Young and said, I hope you don't mind, but

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I invited this guy that... Was it this event?

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Well, because I knew you were quick to laugh

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and I knew you had confidence because I can,

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you know, so I thought that would be good and

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then it just came out and here we are. It's great.

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Oh, thank you. I've got some questions to ask

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you. Okay. So the soul is soul decodes. But before

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we do that, let me hear from Jim and just ask

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him who's Jim and Jim, who are you? Have you

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taken over? Jim, who are you and why are you

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here? no well wait a minute let me frame this

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up before we jump into your questions but i think

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jim has to know the premise of the show because

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that's how i'm going to oh so you're going to

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do the premise yes so this is soul decodes right

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and so we decode the soul so that means we talk

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about everything okay pretty much right because

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decoding the soul it's about human experiences

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okay so be open to talking about everything if

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if i ask you a question you can please Plead

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the fifth, if you want. Plead the fifth, yeah.

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Here's a British girl talking about pleading

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the fifth. But I do have to say, Jim, this is

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his second time showing up on our show. Because

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he had a cameo. Oh, did you? Chopper Jim. Chopper

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Jim. You were not here, but... Remember you were

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absent on one of the shows, and I had to do a

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going -it -by -myself show? Yes. Well, I left

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my phone on, and he accidentally rang in. I'm

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like, oh, Jim, I'm in the studio recording. And

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you did Chopper Jim. I did Chopper Jim. I was

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the traffic. Then she asked me to say something

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encouraging to our audience. I had no idea who

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the audience was. I'm like, bye, bye, bye, so,

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so, so. And she recorded it. I'm like, okay.

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I'll put a link. It's actually, I'll put a link

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in the show notes back to that. It was hilarious.

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But we actually had some people comment on that

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as well. That's good. It's so spontaneous too.

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It's just funny. Yes, it was so funny. But I

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mean, this is a show where we don't script anything.

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I did ask. here i said look we're gonna have

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a guest first time ever this is new to us we

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have we have no idea How this is going to play

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out. If it's going to suck or not. But you're

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not. But I've known Jim for probably over a year

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now. Over a year now, yeah. Do you want to ask

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Jim what he's all about? Yes. Well, sure. So

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can you, what do you do for a living? Okay. And

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that'll be the first question. Okay. Because

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that's going to be important. Okay. Yes, and

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then we can take it from there. I'm in sales.

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And so I've been in sales for over 20 years.

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And so I'm currently selling telecommunications,

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which is fiber. optics for businesses right so

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that's okay so that's not installing fiber optics

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it's selling it it's selling it correct i'm the

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person who shakes hands and kisses babies and

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then i bring you'd be a good politician so so

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yeah i bring my it people to the company's it

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people and then they talk and then i sell and

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so do you have to this is probably a silly question

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do you have to know about fiber optics in order

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to sell it i mean do you get a lot of technical

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questions and any technical questions i get i

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hand off to my engineer that's good so it's really

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nice yeah and how successful are you at it uh

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i've been there two and a half years and i'm

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in the top sales positions yes right and 20 years

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of sales what did you do prior to that oh my

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goodness because you're not 20 you're right i

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look like you're a fetus Oh, goodness. My prior

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was cybersecurity. I did that for about two years.

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What's that? Cybersecurity, it is protection

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from bad people on the internet. Right, okay.

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So people don't hack your data and sell it and

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hold it for ransom. Right, so you keep people's

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data safe. Correct. Right. That's interesting.

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That's necessary, isn't it? Yeah, and then before

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that is senior living sales. So it's helping

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seniors. live independently, but then they live

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in a community that has skilled nursing, assistant

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living, and memory care. And so they don't have

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to move. They can actually age. And what was

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your involvement with that? I was in sales as

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well. So you were selling that to be, I love

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that. That would have been rewarding. There's

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a place in Claremont where it looks like a beautiful

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hotel. Yes. And it's right near the police department

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on Hammock Ridge. Yes, Orchard Heights. Yes.

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And that's absolutely lovely. And I've been in

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there a couple of times. Okay. And I like that.

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That's a really nice dignified way of getting

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older, isn't it? Yes. It's like a hotel. You've

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got rooms. You've got your own apartment, your

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own balcony. You can come and go. I could sell

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that one because I could see myself there if

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I needed to be. Well, the one I was, it was a

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cutting edge. It was called, I don't know if

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I can say the name. Legacy Point at UCF. And

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so it was a community, senior living community

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that was right next to the college, UCF. And

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so they get to live independently, but they also

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to audit classes. So they can actually go back

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to school and learn. and keep their mind, you

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know, sharp. That is a really cool idea. I really

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like that. Yeah, that would have been a good

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one. Jim, Sierra's issue is that she needs to

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have a senior community that's got like a jet

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ski dock. Yes. Do I lie? A helicopter pad would

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be nice. I need the helicopter pad. There's some

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nice ones on the Gulf Coast. Well, that's cool.

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Yeah, so I know Jim from the chamber because

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every time there's a chamber event and the place

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gets... like there's more light, it's because

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he just walked in. That's nice. Yes, I think

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you radiate that. No, he can literally walk.

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He can run for mayor. I think that's why you

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got a guest spot on the podcast. And the first

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one, I'm so honored. I know, right? Yeah, don't

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be nervous. So you can't do anything wrong because

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whatever you say, it's going to be fun. Yeah.

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So now... I'd like to start with this question.

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My husband cringes every time I ask this, but

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what's the worst thing that's ever happened to

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you? Oh my goodness. Wow. Yeah. The worst thing,

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I guess it would be, I was on a bike. A motorbike.

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A bicycle. A bicycle. And I was going really

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fast and I was switching from fifth gear to 10th

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gear to go even faster. And I wasn't. I was looking

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down at the gears instead of looking at the road,

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and I hit a huge rock, and I flipped. And this

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is at the time where you didn't wear helmets,

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but I kept my head up, but I slid for a while

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to where my body was on fire, and I was pretty

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far away from home, and so I had to... Actually,

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luckily, I was about... quarter a mile away from

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my grandmother's house so i had to go and knock

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on her door did you get back on the bike no i

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had to walk it you walked it and then you were

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in pain and you got there it's lucky that you

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didn't bang your head yes and i was with two

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other friends and so they helped me and so that

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was probably the worst yeah that sucks and how

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long did it take you to recover It was a while

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because I had like a lot of like rush burns on

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my back and on my hips. I couldn't sleep a certain

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way. Were you at the point where it could have

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been? I say this because my brother was a mountain

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bike rider. He's still got a mountain bike and

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he was coming down a big hill and the same thing

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happened. But he ended up going right over the

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handlebars, falling on his head, being unconscious.

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Someone found him and he was airlifted to a hospital.

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Then he was stuck in there for three days with

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concussion. So that was like a really. And then

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he, after that happened, he lost his job for

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a year and a half because he had to have certain,

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because he's a train driver. So he had to have

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certain tests to make sure that he wasn't cognitively

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impaired. So yours sounds like a... Yeah, I haven't,

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praise God, I haven't been... injured to that

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point i mean even i was protected i got um i

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was at a red light and it turned green and i

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started going and i hear this car coming down

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from my right hand side and t -boned me and i

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was a nissan armada it hit me so hard that my

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truck became airborne oh my god i knew this because

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there was a red car next to me and my toe tow

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package had red paint from the hood of the car

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and so that grounded me from flipping over and

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then I ended up hitting another car and it was

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like crazy so that was like and then you got

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up and walked away and I got up and walked away

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yeah all I had was like a stinger on my right

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hand side I was I mean because because at that

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point I would be like thank you yeah because

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you're so spared compared to how fucked up that

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really could have been yeah it could have been

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so much worse and I was on my way to pick up

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my kids so I'm so glad my kids were not Not in

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the car. Yes, quite. Because if they were, I

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probably would have committed murder and I would

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have been in jail. So isn't it funny how horrible

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situations can, you can be grateful in that.

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Yes, totally grateful. So it's an interesting

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concept that is it something shitty happens and

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then you say, oh, thank you. Yeah, thank you.

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Right. Yeah. Well, that's the way I'm seeing

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how like through like life is what like you go

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through several storms. And then those storms

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are there to actually help strengthen you. And

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you're like, oh, what am I learning through this

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storm? Such a great question to ask, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's the number one question to ask. What

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am I learning? What is this to teach me? I love

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it. I haven't had any bad car crashes or anything.

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Little tiny. I reversed out of the post office

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in town. And this lady actually drove into me

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because she didn't realize I was in there. But

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because I was in reverse, I was the one that

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got the ticket. Because you're automatically...

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which really, really sucked. But that's the nearest

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thing I've come. Have you, sweetheart, have you

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had a crash that you got out and you thought,

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oh, thank you for keeping me alive? Almost every

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day of my life I have a crash and I'm grateful

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that I'm still alive. But yeah, I mean, my crashes

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are not actual. They're more metaphoric. They're

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more circumstantial. A lot of the crashes I have

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are internal to myself. And just trying to navigate

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my own way out of my own thought forms. Yes,

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exactly. But the fact that you know they're internal,

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that's a real superpower. Because now you're

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the watcher of that. So you can actually take

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care of that. I think that comes with maturity.

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It's just like, how is it that I came to believe

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this way? How do I work my way out of this thought

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form? Because you talk about this all the time.

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The only time I've been in a wreck, I've had

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numerous bicycle wrecks. I mean, I can't even

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believe I'm still. believe I'm still alive. When

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we were kids, we were maniacs. Bikes, we'd jump

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things. And that guy, Evel Knievel. Everybody

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wanted to be Evel Knievel. We built dirt ramps.

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We wanted to see how far we could jump our bikes.

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two by fours in which climb you drive up it and

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what a poor influence it was evil yeah is that

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the adrenaline rush that you're going for no

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it's just no no it's just that you don't have

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a prefrontal cortex yeah you don't even you're

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just an idiot on wheels and you know you're doing

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like six and eight years old and we were trying

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to see how and we were putting lines in the dirt

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on how far we could jump and i went so fast that

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i forgot to pull back on the hand flipped forward

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and landed on my chest, knocked the wind out

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of me. My brother and I broke so many bikes because

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we would ramp. We would put like cinder blocks

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with like a ramp. We'd just jump it and then

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we'd land on the forks and just break the bike.

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And then we would put bikes together. It was

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like, oh, that one's broken. That one's broken.

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And we would take them apart and put them. Build

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a bike. These Franken bikes. That's awesome.

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But I did have, up in Michigan, I had a... I

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took an exit and it was right after it rained

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and I was stopping it. You know, you exit and

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then you're at the stop sign at the exit, like

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off the freeway, right? And I looked in my mirror

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and I had my kids in the car and they were in

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the back seat and my ex -spouse was in the spouse

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seat. And I looked in the rearview mirror and

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this guy was barreling down and he rear -ended

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us. Thankfully, I was in like a, I think it was

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like an 82 Mercedes. It was like... Big, heavy

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car. So the whole back of the car got crumpled.

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But the way it's designed is the energy goes

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up the doors instead of into the cum, into where

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the passengers are. Oh, nice. So the energy was

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diffused up the sides. So the doors didn't open

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in the back, but the back seat was completely

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intact. The kids were shaking up. Oh, I can imagine.

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But the capsule itself was completely intact.

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Well, thank God you were in a Mercedes. Oh, yeah.

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That was the first of three or four Mercedes

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I got because I was like, I never... This keeps

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me safe. After that, I was like, yeah, I'm not...

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To me, I'm big on heavy metal. And the guy that

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hit me, he was just an old guy, and he just lost

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track of where he was in space and time. I bet

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he felt so awful, that must be it. He had one

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of those old white vans that the painters use

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with no windows, and his front end was completely

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gone. His front end was in my trunk, the engine

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and everything. But same thing as Jim said, you

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just walk out with gratitude. Could have been

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so much worse, couldn't it? Yeah, so go ahead.

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Okay, so we talk about the mind and we talk about

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spirituality. We talk about God. Do you have

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a belief system? I do. And can you tell me a

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bit about, tell us a bit about that? The history?

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All right. Well, I grew up in a... divided household

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divided um in what way in like in faith like

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well like lutheran my dad's lutheran my mom was

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catholic so we were raised catholic and then

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i came down to florida in 1995 and i was just

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searching and so visited a couple churches and

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found one that was called the um orlando church

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of christ but it was affiliated with the international

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churches of christ and so that's where he actually

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someone actually sat down with me studied the

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bible and find out for myself who really god

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is and actually develop a personal relationship

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with jesus and then i got baptized february 1st

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1998 and then just been reading my bible and

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praying every day from that point on visiting

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a couple churches you know still I was in that

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one church for about 10 years, and then been

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to Real Life, Lakeside, and Living Message, and

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now I'm actually checking out Southlake Church

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of Christ right now. And what do you look for

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in a church? I look for Bible -based. They teach

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from the Bible, no man -made doctrine. you know

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into it um because you see a lot of that so you

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mean man -made doctrine in the interpretation

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of it yes and and also certain rules too um like

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there's certain churches out there that they

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do a little like some wonky stuff like what like

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like you hear stuff like talk you know like touching

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snakes and stuff like that okay yes human sacrifice

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Yeah, those churches are a bit wonky. Those are

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a bit wonky, you know. So, and I'm finding that

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I don't really like churches that, like, scream

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at you, you know. Right. You know, it's like,

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come on, because I guess. You mean the style

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of preaching? Yes, yes. Teach me, don't yell

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at me. Yes, yes. So I'm there to learn and also

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to give back as well, so. That's really, really

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nice. So I watch a lot of Christian preaching,

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but I don't believe that the Bible is necessarily

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the word of God. I believe there are aspects

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of the Bible which are the word of God, but not

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everything. There's certain things that I can't

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imagine God doing. So I wrote a book called Is

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This the Best God Could Do? And I challenged

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God. But not the existence of God. I absolutely

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believe in the existence of God. And I'm a believer.

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And I know that there's a beautiful plan. And

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I know that everyone, and I say I know, I believe,

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that everyone is saved. And that there's no one's

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going to slip through the net. So my faith couldn't

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be of Christian faith. Yet I believe in the morality

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of Christianity. I'm traditional. I believe in

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family. I believe in doing the right thing. So

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I call myself sometimes a partial Christian,

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but I just don't believe the full, the idea that

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God is separate necessarily. So I'm more of a

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pantheist rather than a monotheist. God is separate?

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What do you mean? So in the Bible, God is separate.

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up in heaven we don't really know what heaven

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is but he's up there and he created mankind and

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here we are and a pantheist is more that god

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is everything that god is now you would probably

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believe that as a christian you believe the holy

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spirit right so you're already seeing that the

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holy spirit's in you and i believe that the holy

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spirit is in all of us but it doesn't matter

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what you believe that he is going to be when

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i say he i don't mean that whatever that energy

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is is in us So I think, and Tia Jolie, you can

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step in here. So Tia and I, we talk about the

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concept of reincarnation. Has that been anything

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that you've considered? I've always thought about

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it and you hear about it, but I don't believe

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in it. So it is a neat idea, but from what I've

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learned and what I've researched. Now, because

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I have different views. So my friend, well, she

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was a housekeeper for a long time. And now she's

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83 now. And she believes that she was put in

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my life because I needed saving. Right. I don't

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believe I need saving from anything. And I don't

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believe she does. But she believes that I do.

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And she loves me. And I talked to her last night.

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But she actually thinks that me and my family

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are going to hell for not believing what she

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believes. Are you that far in to... where you

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would think that? Every person has their own

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path. And I guess really the bottom line is you

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got to understand if you, because the word of

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God is the word of God. And so you may disagree

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with that. And you're saying the Bible is the

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word. The Bible. And there's no other religious

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thought or tradition which is the word. It's

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just the Bible. Is that what? Correct. And the

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Bible says it too. It says all scripture is God

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breathed. So it was written by 60 different men,

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but they were led by the Holy Spirit. And so

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it's been. And many people try to disprove the

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Bible, and it hasn't been done. But the whole

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thing about the Bible, the Bible is a living

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book. It's not a history book. If you read it

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in a way that you're trying to understand who

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God is and who Jesus is, it's amazing because

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it judges the thoughts and attitudes of your

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heart. So if you go in with the heart to disprove

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God, you're going to disprove God. you know it's

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so it's it's if you would be able to you'd be

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able to exactly yeah exactly so so but if you

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go with the faith like oh this god i know because

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it says in john this is you know um in the beginning

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was the word and word was was got was with god

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and the word is god so that's where like oh the

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word is god you know jesus is the word and so

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it is really your your faith you know and i can't

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convince anyone Of that. So they have to have

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that. But if they don't have your faith and believe

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in the same things, what do you think God's plan

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for them is? It's up to God. It's not for me

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to question God's plan. No, I'm not asking you.

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But would you say that the world needs to believe

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this way in order to avoid going to hell? Well,

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I can only go with what God says, because God

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says the only way to him is through his son,

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Jesus Christ. And what if you don't get to him

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through Jesus Christ? Then you're screwed. Yeah,

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see, that is where I just, yeah. You're like,

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you believe this, otherwise God's going to make

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you, put you in a fiery furnace for eternity.

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What loving God would do that? Well, he gave

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us free will. He gave us a choice to choose him

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or not to choose him. Well, he's not at the end

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of the day because if he gave us free will to

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choose him or not choose him, he's going to punish

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us for not choosing because there's nothing free

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about having that will. Do you believe in the

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devil? I believe we've talked about this. I believe

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in darkness because light and darkness have to

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go together, the same up and down, in and out.

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So I believe we live in a world of duality. So

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I believe that God gave us free will to make

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choices in a world of duality. But I don't believe

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he wills darkness, but I do believe he permitted

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it. But it's of his creation. It's not because

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there's a fallen angel and there's an adversarial

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being out there who's fighting God. God is in

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control of everything he's created. So I had

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this very interesting thing. This is a little

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bit tangential to this conversation, but I think

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it'll kind of expand this out a little bit beyond

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the current conversation. I was at a... a gathering

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yesterday. Wednesday mornings, we do these things

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called Million Cops. And it's for entrepreneurs.

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I've talked to you about it. But the question

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came up about AI. So instead of talking about...

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maybe God or good or bad or whatever. But I want

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to get into a little bit about the real world

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applications because beliefs are beliefs. People

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can have divergent beliefs one way or the other.

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The only belief I really have is that I'm a student

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and I'm learning. What I know today is going

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to be very different tomorrow. Well, I think

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we all are on the same page about there being

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God, that God is good, and that we're going to

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align ourselves around that concept. So we do

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have things in common, you know, so that's important.

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So I wanted to share this with you because it

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was an amazing insight. But the presenter yesterday

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was a former military. You know, we connected

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on that regard. But there was a very, like, tenseness

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in the room because there was this section of

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the room. There was divided towards AI being

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a good and benevolent thing. This is a good thing

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for humanity. And there's all this rah -rah cheerleaders

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for AI. And then there was this other side that

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said pretty much AI is the devil and AI is hateful.

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Well, it could be, though. But people were getting

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emotionally charged over this whole AI thing.

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And I would like to get your opinions on that.

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Whether there's a devil or not, you could...

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Well, it's an important question because the

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devil exists because of God or in spite of God.

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But I believe that God created the light and

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the dark, in and out and opposites, up and down,

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hot and cold, courage, cowardice, so we can experience

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our free will. So I do believe that darkness

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exists and we have to navigate that. But I don't

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believe... darkness exists because god wasn't

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in control of everything he created well and

00:27:33.930 --> 00:27:36.250
you know you and i have talked similar things

00:27:36.250 --> 00:27:39.930
in the past and like my idea is that you know

00:27:39.930 --> 00:27:43.430
um i believe everything's a gift and i believe

00:27:43.430 --> 00:27:45.690
that even darkness and we talked to this when

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:48.569
i was talking about ptsd just because i don't

00:27:48.569 --> 00:27:50.329
understand something doesn't mean it's not to

00:27:50.329 --> 00:27:54.049
my benefit and so within the construct of like

00:27:54.049 --> 00:27:57.170
i have five people similar to you who have said

00:27:57.170 --> 00:27:59.769
that i'm possessed with demons and all this stuff

00:27:59.769 --> 00:28:03.490
i'm like i'm really not i'm really not i promise

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:05.829
you i'm i'm good you know i haven't detected

00:28:05.829 --> 00:28:09.089
one but but you know the idea of being possessed

00:28:09.089 --> 00:28:11.109
with demons and all this is if it's some sort

00:28:11.109 --> 00:28:14.349
of an infection or something i think how do you

00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:17.279
how do you really do that i mean Is there like

00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.680
some medical protocol you can test me for demons

00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.079
or something? Or is this something that maybe

00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.579
I'm experiencing or going through this phase

00:28:24.579 --> 00:28:26.779
of life? You know, when you look at the ocean,

00:28:26.819 --> 00:28:29.279
there's troughs and everything's got seasons

00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.539
and everything, you know, and we read that. The

00:28:31.539 --> 00:28:33.619
Wheel of Fortune in the tarot deck says that

00:28:33.619 --> 00:28:36.339
and it just keeps going round and there's ups

00:28:36.339 --> 00:28:38.819
and there's downs and it's perpetual. It just

00:28:38.819 --> 00:28:40.619
keeps going round. But, you know, you could look

00:28:40.619 --> 00:28:44.640
at a snapshot of anybody's life because any one

00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.410
of us did. At some point did something dirtbag.

00:28:47.410 --> 00:28:49.690
Oh, for sure. I did dirtbag things like threw

00:28:49.690 --> 00:28:51.930
a rock and broke a glass. It's like I blame my

00:28:51.930 --> 00:28:54.210
brother. I'm like, you know, we all do dirtbag

00:28:54.210 --> 00:28:56.430
things. I put cling film on my teacher's toilet

00:28:56.430 --> 00:29:01.250
seat. You know, the sarin wrap. She just peed

00:29:01.250 --> 00:29:03.490
everywhere. Oh, my goodness. That's so awful.

00:29:03.549 --> 00:29:06.109
That's awful. So we all do dirtbag things. I

00:29:06.109 --> 00:29:09.250
was only like eight. If you took a snapshot.

00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:15.910
I'll do it in the next show. If you take a snapshot

00:29:15.910 --> 00:29:18.470
of any one of us, it doesn't mean that we're

00:29:18.470 --> 00:29:20.450
intrinsically bad people. It means we did something.

00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:22.569
Yeah, we made a shitty choice. And it doesn't

00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:24.509
mean that I'm possessed by devils or demons.

00:29:24.630 --> 00:29:27.519
It means I was... I was trying to have fun. You

00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.700
were seduced by the wrong choice, I think. I

00:29:30.700 --> 00:29:33.240
mean, what's the wrong choice? If I get joy and

00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.279
happiness... Well, putting Saran Wrap on my teacher's

00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.200
toilet seat was not... Did it make you laugh?

00:29:38.579 --> 00:29:41.099
It made me laugh and ultimately it made her laugh.

00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.460
So we're all good. Okay, so it's a good thing

00:29:43.460 --> 00:29:45.380
then. No, it wasn't because she got pee all down

00:29:45.380 --> 00:29:47.420
her... It was just absolutely awful. But it made

00:29:47.420 --> 00:29:49.900
you both laugh and laughter is important. Okay,

00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.690
all right. Well, that's a word for me. I won't

00:29:53.690 --> 00:29:58.269
repent anymore. Twist on happiness. Well, so

00:29:58.269 --> 00:30:00.849
anyway, so I bring this up only because, you

00:30:00.849 --> 00:30:04.309
know, the room was, it was palpable. Like you

00:30:04.309 --> 00:30:06.410
could cut the room because the one guy stood

00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:09.869
up and he's like. AI literally is like of the

00:30:09.869 --> 00:30:12.329
devil. And then he takes the mic and walked down

00:30:12.329 --> 00:30:14.069
the center of the hallway. Were you there? I

00:30:14.069 --> 00:30:16.170
was there. You were there yesterday. I was there.

00:30:17.089 --> 00:30:18.670
That's right, you were there. Did he make any

00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:22.289
lucid points as to why it was so dramatic? Well,

00:30:22.289 --> 00:30:24.650
his point was it's taken away from the human

00:30:24.650 --> 00:30:27.009
connection. You know, it was like AI is replacing

00:30:27.009 --> 00:30:30.529
the human connection. And his response was...

00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:31.930
I mean, it's an interesting point. It was a good

00:30:31.930 --> 00:30:33.390
point. I think it was a good point, but it was

00:30:33.390 --> 00:30:35.390
really dramatic. It was very dramatic, yeah.

00:30:35.670 --> 00:30:38.039
Well, it sounds like he's... he's got some fear

00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.299
in him right oh he's a performer but i think

00:30:41.299 --> 00:30:43.259
that everybody that does something like that

00:30:43.259 --> 00:30:46.079
but ai it has but it has both good and bad so

00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.420
does the internet it's what we do well it's like

00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:52.380
me telling you is my cell phone bad is my cell

00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:54.579
which depends what you're using if it takes up

00:30:54.579 --> 00:30:57.140
most of your time yes but yeah i mean if it consumes

00:30:57.140 --> 00:31:00.589
you consumes you yeah is my car bad no Is my

00:31:00.589 --> 00:31:03.069
hammer bad? Is anything inherently bad? Depends

00:31:03.069 --> 00:31:05.369
how you use the hammer. If I hammer, if I club,

00:31:05.450 --> 00:31:09.950
is my baseball bad? And are you on the cell phone

00:31:09.950 --> 00:31:11.190
when you're hitting someone with a hammer? Well,

00:31:11.190 --> 00:31:13.130
if I clobber my brother with a baseball bat,

00:31:13.250 --> 00:31:14.970
that's a bad thing. But if I hit a home run,

00:31:15.029 --> 00:31:16.450
it's a good thing, right? So it's just neutral.

00:31:16.730 --> 00:31:19.069
The phone is neutral. The hammer's neutral. So,

00:31:19.069 --> 00:31:23.259
you know, these are questions about intent. I

00:31:23.259 --> 00:31:25.619
could be a good person, but if I have bad intent,

00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.339
but it's transient, is that a bad thing? The

00:31:28.339 --> 00:31:31.240
whole idea of judging somebody based on a behavior...

00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.339
Well, I think the judgment happens because...

00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:36.960
I don't know whether you believe that I need

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.099
salvation. I think we were all saved. We were

00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:43.460
never in any danger of not being saved. So if

00:31:43.460 --> 00:31:45.940
you believe, we can talk about that, but if we

00:31:45.940 --> 00:31:49.440
believe that salvation is necessary and you believe

00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.640
that God sees things in a certain way, you are

00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.160
going to be apt to judge because that person's

00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.519
soul, the salvation of their soul, rests on you

00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.599
doing that. And of course, in the Bible, you're

00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.359
asked to spread the word and convert people,

00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:04.609
right? So I think the question... of salvation

00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:08.430
i don't i think we're all saved how how has everyone

00:32:08.430 --> 00:32:10.650
all saved them just because god loves us and

00:32:10.650 --> 00:32:12.630
he doesn't have any favorites and there's no

00:32:12.630 --> 00:32:14.990
belief system that's going to win god over we're

00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:18.509
here to learn and evolve and grow but where did

00:32:18.509 --> 00:32:23.240
you learn that This is through a process of intellectual

00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.319
reasoning and a high degree of faith. I have

00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.599
faith in a God of magnificence, not some mediocre

00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.720
God that's going to save some and send others

00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:36.920
to hell for eternity. I burnt my finger on my

00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.839
stove this morning and I couldn't imagine what

00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.859
hell would feel like. I just don't believe that

00:32:42.859 --> 00:32:45.140
God would send me to hell for not believing a

00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:48.160
certain doctrine. There's actually a book out

00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.829
there that really... woke me up it was called

00:32:50.829 --> 00:32:53.990
23 minutes in hell and where the guy actually

00:32:53.990 --> 00:32:57.569
went to hell for 23 minutes and he still goes

00:32:57.569 --> 00:33:00.269
around the whole world sharing his experience

00:33:00.269 --> 00:33:02.970
and was it the conventional type of hell like

00:33:02.970 --> 00:33:07.329
the the one fire and devils and heat and it was

00:33:07.329 --> 00:33:10.230
more descriptive um it was the darkness because

00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:13.410
hell was never designed for people it was designed

00:33:13.410 --> 00:33:17.609
for demons it was divine for angels that went

00:33:17.609 --> 00:33:22.829
against god And so God's design was for man to

00:33:22.829 --> 00:33:27.289
be good. But unfortunately, Adam and Eve broke

00:33:27.289 --> 00:33:29.150
it. And now we're a perversion of what he originally

00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:31.910
intended. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So hell

00:33:31.910 --> 00:33:35.710
in this book, was it dark and hot and scary?

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:39.750
It was dark, hot, smelly, where the Bible says

00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:45.029
like punishment, like several blows. There were

00:33:45.029 --> 00:33:46.670
several blows. So you're just permanently getting

00:33:46.670 --> 00:33:49.789
beaten up. By other demons, yeah. And that goes

00:33:49.789 --> 00:33:53.880
on forever and ever. Yeah, you either have a

00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:55.980
zip code in heaven or a zip code in Florida.

00:33:55.980 --> 00:34:00.920
And eternity is such an old time. It's like Down

00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.359
River, Detroit to me. So, yeah, so our soul is

00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.920
eternal. It all depends on where it's going to

00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.559
go. And so because sin entered into the world,

00:34:12.619 --> 00:34:15.940
God has now made a design for this salvation.

00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:21.070
So you see sin entering into the world. by Eve

00:34:21.070 --> 00:34:24.610
being disobedient. I think sin is in the world

00:34:24.610 --> 00:34:27.670
because God gave us free will to choose, and

00:34:27.670 --> 00:34:29.889
we have the opposites in which to choose from.

00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:34.869
So you're saying we're here by default of something

00:34:34.869 --> 00:34:38.150
going wrong, and I think that we're here to learn

00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:41.570
in the forces of good and evil. But not evil,

00:34:41.670 --> 00:34:43.409
not evil in the world. I would say both because

00:34:43.409 --> 00:34:48.099
God wants us to seek him. Continuously, because

00:34:48.099 --> 00:34:50.119
we're called to be... Well, we do that when we

00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.059
align with the Holy Spirit, don't we? That's

00:34:52.059 --> 00:34:54.920
when the Holy Spirit is... Well, you can do it...

00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.320
I mean, the Holy Spirit guides you, I think.

00:34:59.380 --> 00:35:01.440
I think people... God guides you, because God

00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.559
is everywhere. But God is the Holy Spirit. That's

00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.380
the comforter that Jesus left behind, right?

00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:08.639
Correct. Exactly, exactly. So, and Jesus gave

00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.880
the... or God gave the format on how to be saved.

00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:15.679
And if you read... You've got to read the Bible.

00:35:16.099 --> 00:35:17.920
You've got to believe it's the word of God. Well,

00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:19.900
you've got to believe that you need saving even

00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:22.480
to get to that part. And that's where I don't

00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.460
believe I need saving from anything. I thought

00:35:24.460 --> 00:35:26.820
the same thing because I grew up Catholic. But

00:35:26.820 --> 00:35:28.519
then you read this book and it scared the shit

00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.579
out of you. You don't want to go to hell. That

00:35:30.579 --> 00:35:33.300
was after I was saved, though. Oh, was it? Not

00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:35.360
because of that. Because I was going to say that

00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.000
would just be very... No, no. You should never

00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.750
be... Well, here's my story. So I thought I was

00:35:41.750 --> 00:35:44.269
saved as a baby, you know, because Catholics,

00:35:44.329 --> 00:35:47.050
they sprinkle. And I may offend people who are

00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:50.269
Catholic, and I apologize. My dad was a Catholic.

00:35:50.530 --> 00:35:52.909
Actually, I was born Catholic. So I'm a recovering

00:35:52.909 --> 00:35:56.690
Catholic. So I'm so sorry. But I go by the word

00:35:56.690 --> 00:35:59.329
of God, and that's what I stand on. He's the

00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:02.380
rock. You know, Jesus is the rock. So where was

00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:04.480
I going with this? So I thought I was saved.

00:36:04.619 --> 00:36:10.340
So I'm going to this church back in 1998 and

00:36:10.340 --> 00:36:13.179
going, oh, yeah, I'm saved. But it wasn't until

00:36:13.179 --> 00:36:16.619
I was reading the word where it convicted me

00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:19.159
to the point where like, oh, my gosh, I'm not

00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.360
saved. Like, what do I need to do to be saved?

00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:26.179
And it's very similar to where the church was

00:36:26.179 --> 00:36:29.079
created in the book of Acts, where Peter gets

00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.739
up and he's filled with the Holy Spirit. And

00:36:31.739 --> 00:36:34.360
he's saying, you know, this Jesus that you crucified

00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.699
is the Son of God. And everyone was there, was

00:36:37.699 --> 00:36:40.239
convicted to the heart. to the soul going oh

00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.059
my they're broken going oh my gosh what do we

00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:44.420
need we need to do how do you know we didn't

00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:47.420
know we we crucify the christ well you need to

00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:50.599
repent to change and be baptized for the forgiveness

00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.980
of their sins and you receive the gift of the

00:36:52.980 --> 00:36:56.219
holy spirit so then 3 000 people were saved that

00:36:56.219 --> 00:36:58.940
day and that's actually the start of the of the

00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:01.739
church of the following of jesus and they call

00:37:01.739 --> 00:37:06.079
them disciples of christ so that's used so loosely

00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.159
but a disciple is a student So if you're a student

00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.559
of Christ, you're always learning. I feel like

00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.239
I'm a student, not of Christ necessarily, but

00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.880
of God, that we're all students. We're all students

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.119
and teachers, I think, in a way. So I do see

00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.679
that. So if you keep on studying and going deeper

00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:26.260
into God's word and seeing, oh, well, Jesus is

00:37:26.260 --> 00:37:29.320
the way, because he says no one else can go to

00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:33.059
God except through him. So is he lying? So then,

00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.139
well, then God's a liar. There's no need to believe

00:37:36.139 --> 00:37:38.159
it. I think because you've said this is God's

00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.239
word and you're believing it to be true, you

00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.420
have no choice but to arrive at your opinion.

00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:45.739
I think that there is partial truth in the Bible.

00:37:45.980 --> 00:37:48.340
I think there's partial truth in a lot of world

00:37:48.340 --> 00:37:52.760
religions. I think God's word is coming at us

00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.179
from a lot of different spaces. Yeah, you know

00:37:56.179 --> 00:37:59.190
what? It's interesting. Our perspectives of God

00:37:59.190 --> 00:38:01.489
can be, you know, here's one God, but we see

00:38:01.489 --> 00:38:04.610
from different angles the same almighty, powerful

00:38:04.610 --> 00:38:07.489
force. It's interesting because I was talking

00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:10.449
to Robin about whether or not God had a sense

00:38:10.449 --> 00:38:17.570
of humor. And what is, what constitutes, like

00:38:17.570 --> 00:38:19.489
if you've looked in any of the creatures in the

00:38:19.489 --> 00:38:22.570
ocean, God's got a sense of humor, right? Platypus.

00:38:24.190 --> 00:38:27.389
So I wanted to just find out because, you know,

00:38:27.769 --> 00:38:29.590
I was telling Robin this morning, it's like,

00:38:29.710 --> 00:38:34.190
I wake up with these crazy ideas. And I was trying

00:38:34.190 --> 00:38:36.670
to, because we've talked a lot about AI and what

00:38:36.670 --> 00:38:39.010
it is and what it's not. And I realized, you

00:38:39.010 --> 00:38:43.510
know, AI is actually, it's dumb and stupid. Because

00:38:43.510 --> 00:38:47.789
I can say something really, just a quip. I can

00:38:47.789 --> 00:38:50.989
do satire. I can do some nuanced little word

00:38:50.989 --> 00:38:53.929
selections or choices. I can even make a funny

00:38:53.929 --> 00:38:56.639
face or something. And you all will laugh, but

00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.360
AI would not even get it. And if I asked AI to

00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.840
duplicate that or replicate that, it wouldn't

00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.000
be able to do it. So my question is, to what

00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.420
degree? Well, first of all, we're talking about

00:39:07.420 --> 00:39:10.960
the Jesus figure, right? The man. There's the

00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.260
God, but there's the man. He laughed, he cried,

00:39:13.380 --> 00:39:17.679
he got pissed off. I mean, he's just a real deal.

00:39:18.059 --> 00:39:20.860
So my question is, do you think that Jesus had

00:39:20.860 --> 00:39:23.460
a sense of humor? And how would he have deployed

00:39:23.460 --> 00:39:30.369
it? Did he stick? Do you think that he made the

00:39:30.369 --> 00:39:33.050
disciples spray milk out their mouth or out their

00:39:33.050 --> 00:39:37.150
nose? Oh, my. You never know. Because if you

00:39:37.150 --> 00:39:39.409
read the book of John, and if you go in with

00:39:39.409 --> 00:39:43.309
the context, the mindset, I should say, of let's

00:39:43.309 --> 00:39:45.789
me look at the character of Jesus, you'll see

00:39:45.789 --> 00:39:49.489
the humor. Because John reads like a movie. It's

00:39:49.489 --> 00:39:51.949
fast -paced. You get the four Gospels, Matthew,

00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:55.750
Mark. John. Luke and John. Luke and John, yeah.

00:39:55.909 --> 00:39:59.929
So John, I think, is the most vibrant. Well,

00:40:00.050 --> 00:40:02.730
Luke was a doctor, so it's the most detailed.

00:40:02.949 --> 00:40:05.849
But I say John because you can really see Jesus'

00:40:05.989 --> 00:40:10.429
character where, like, for example, he's talking

00:40:10.429 --> 00:40:12.309
as I was like, you know, first you got to take

00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:15.630
the plank out of your own eye before you take

00:40:15.630 --> 00:40:18.539
the speck. out of somebody else's i mean that's

00:40:18.539 --> 00:40:21.679
funny it's funny that is hysterical poignant

00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.039
it is funny though i never really thought that

00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.280
it is funny like who says that you know dude

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.860
you gotta take the building you know you know

00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:31.159
the plank out of your own eye before you can

00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.019
oh plus the other thing was was where he knew

00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:36.019
exactly where the boulders were and he was walking

00:40:36.019 --> 00:40:38.079
on the water and then the other guys tried it

00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:43.019
and they fell in no i just you know exactly where

00:40:43.019 --> 00:40:46.179
to stop that's no trick well but that would be

00:40:46.380 --> 00:40:48.579
Well, that story, too, when he was sleeping on

00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:50.360
the boat, you know, Jesus got tired because he

00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.260
was sleeping on the boat and the waves were coming.

00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.420
And then all of a sudden, like, oh, we're going

00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:56.800
to die. Jesus, wake up. And he's like, and he's

00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.840
like, and he goes, how long must I deal with

00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.099
you? You know, like, oh, my gosh. Like, really?

00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:06.039
Like, don't you know I'm the son of God? I can.

00:41:06.099 --> 00:41:08.219
And then he made the winds and the storm stopped.

00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.760
And they're like. who is this guy who just made

00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.860
the snores? So Jesus really had a sense of humor.

00:41:13.940 --> 00:41:16.719
He would have had to have done that. He was so

00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.320
funny. But one of the things would be like...

00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.820
A bit moody. Sometimes you feel like he's in

00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:23.860
a bad mood when he's speaking, and other times

00:41:23.860 --> 00:41:26.480
he's funnier, and other times he's softer. So

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.039
he definitely had a well -rounded personality.

00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.920
Yes, exactly. Like if he was talking to the Pharisees,

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.360
he was stern and like, you brood of oop. I mean,

00:41:36.019 --> 00:41:38.219
I don't believe in the concept that we need saving

00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:40.800
from anything. So I don't see Jesus as my savior.

00:41:41.099 --> 00:41:44.699
And to me, it was this person that has captivated

00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:48.460
us over 2000 years. And this entire book is written,

00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.440
not entire, but in the new, it's written around

00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.320
him. And he did, I mean, the golden rule, do

00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.239
unto others. So there's a lot in the Bible and

00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.300
Jesus specifically, I think, and I've said this

00:41:58.300 --> 00:42:00.860
to Tia Jolie, for me, he would be someone that

00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.159
you'd want to role model, not necessarily believe

00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:04.989
that he's dying. for your sins and all that because

00:42:04.989 --> 00:42:08.150
I can tell you what my perspective is on that.

00:42:08.289 --> 00:42:11.429
But just try and role model him and love everyone.

00:42:11.909 --> 00:42:15.409
Don't damn everyone. Don't be a hypocrite. Give

00:42:15.409 --> 00:42:18.269
charitably. Be loving. Be kind. I mean, he's

00:42:18.269 --> 00:42:21.369
a great role model. Correct. I think one of the

00:42:21.369 --> 00:42:23.849
most humorous aspects when you look at the historical

00:42:23.849 --> 00:42:28.789
aspect of Jesus would be how he answers questions

00:42:28.789 --> 00:42:32.750
with questions. I love it. It's his Socratic

00:42:32.750 --> 00:42:35.820
method. It's Socratic method, but answering questions

00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:38.019
with questions, I think it's hilarious because

00:42:38.019 --> 00:42:41.179
you're just taking the burden of proof. You're

00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:42.780
taking the whole thing and putting it back on

00:42:42.780 --> 00:42:44.619
them. And I think that's, I think it's genius.

00:42:44.619 --> 00:42:46.219
And then hopefully they'll have another question

00:42:46.219 --> 00:42:47.880
and this will just go back. I think it's genius,

00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.420
yeah. It's just going to build, isn't it? So

00:42:50.420 --> 00:42:54.400
what, do you think God had a sense of humor?

00:42:56.059 --> 00:42:59.130
Either way. I think God endowed. me with a sense

00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:02.110
of humor well okay and everyone else i think

00:43:02.110 --> 00:43:04.469
but a lot of people are very serious about life

00:43:04.469 --> 00:43:06.590
aren't they you were quick to laugh that's why

00:43:06.590 --> 00:43:08.349
i liked you i could just tell that you were quick

00:43:08.349 --> 00:43:10.909
to laugh so but other people they might take

00:43:10.909 --> 00:43:12.889
life very very seriously and for some people

00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:14.909
there's not a lot to laugh about is there well

00:43:14.909 --> 00:43:16.809
i look at it this way you know if we believe

00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:19.159
if we believe that we're Made in the image and

00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.039
likeness of an almighty creator, God. And we

00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.000
have this sense of humor that seems to be pretty

00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.159
pervasive. A lot of people in the world in different

00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.199
cultures. Like to laugh. They like to laugh.

00:43:31.219 --> 00:43:33.440
They like to dance. They like to celebrate. It's

00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.159
the levity that we need. It's the levity. We

00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.679
have that in common. This is what makes me believe.

00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.800
It's like, okay, well, God probably had a pretty

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.059
good sense of humor. Virtually all of creation,

00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.039
except for there's some dirt. dirtbag fringe

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.840
people that do the human sacrifice things. Those

00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.980
dirtbags, maybe that's their idea of funny or

00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:58.679
something. I don't know. But for normal average

00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.039
people like us, we believe there's an almighty

00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:06.980
powerful creator. Humor is central to what we

00:44:06.980 --> 00:44:11.340
do. I think it's imperative. Jim's going to be

00:44:11.340 --> 00:44:16.010
dancing tomorrow. Dancing, he's competing? November

00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:20.090
8th. Oh, it's not tomorrow. It's next week. November

00:44:20.090 --> 00:44:23.409
8th, yeah. But the whole idea of singing and

00:44:23.409 --> 00:44:25.969
dancing and celebrating, that is really central

00:44:25.969 --> 00:44:29.010
to who we are as humans. And that's a big difference

00:44:29.010 --> 00:44:32.230
between us and synthetic so -called intelligence.

00:44:32.750 --> 00:44:35.969
We have requirements to exist. They don't. I

00:44:35.969 --> 00:44:39.449
think we have this innate, what makes us truly

00:44:39.449 --> 00:44:42.530
intelligent is our ability to celebrate life.

00:44:44.259 --> 00:44:48.159
celebrate each other, our successes, even to

00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.739
acknowledge when you're going through a trough,

00:44:50.820 --> 00:44:54.619
just to relate to that. That's something AI can't

00:44:54.619 --> 00:44:56.719
do, the humanity part of it. Did you make this

00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:58.440
point when you were at this gathering yesterday,

00:44:58.699 --> 00:45:00.960
when this guy was leaping up and down? Did you

00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:02.920
say all this? No, I think Jim knows. That's a

00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.079
really good point. Jim knows I almost always

00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.960
go last. And I do so because I like to let everyone

00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.840
else speak their piece. That's the air conditioner.

00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:15.829
Which shouldn't have popped on. So y 'all keep

00:45:15.829 --> 00:45:17.289
doing what you're doing. I'm going to go shut

00:45:17.289 --> 00:45:19.869
that off. Well, the way it was handled by the

00:45:19.869 --> 00:45:24.170
speaker was brilliant because he was basically

00:45:24.170 --> 00:45:25.989
saying, okay, I see what you're saying about

00:45:25.989 --> 00:45:27.989
the, you know, you think that AI is going to

00:45:27.989 --> 00:45:32.090
take away from human. However, AI, well, he's

00:45:32.090 --> 00:45:34.070
like, how many people do administrative work?

00:45:34.510 --> 00:45:36.849
And how long does that take you? One, three hours?

00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:39.949
Well, what if AI did that in 30 minutes? Now

00:45:39.949 --> 00:45:43.789
you'll have more time to be interactive. So you

00:45:43.789 --> 00:45:45.869
got to put it to good use. It was a great point.

00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:47.929
So I'm like, yeah, it all depends on how you

00:45:47.929 --> 00:45:49.190
want to use it. Like we were talking about a

00:45:49.190 --> 00:45:51.489
hammer. It's great. Or a bat. It's great. But

00:45:51.489 --> 00:45:53.829
how are you going to use it? Yes, exactly. I

00:45:53.829 --> 00:45:57.010
think the... It's not even troubling to me, but

00:45:57.010 --> 00:45:59.690
AI is going to restructure everything, in my

00:45:59.690 --> 00:46:01.650
opinion, where it's going to take over all our

00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:03.889
jobs. But that's been happening for a couple

00:46:03.889 --> 00:46:05.550
of hundred years. I mean, farm equipment took

00:46:05.550 --> 00:46:08.190
away from our jobs. It's just been a slow bleed

00:46:08.190 --> 00:46:11.409
to this point. So it will do everything. And

00:46:11.409 --> 00:46:13.269
then we're going to have a bunch of human beings

00:46:13.269 --> 00:46:15.110
on the planet where we're going to have to care

00:46:15.110 --> 00:46:18.789
for them because... Getting money through working

00:46:18.789 --> 00:46:20.389
is going to be obsolete because we're going to

00:46:20.389 --> 00:46:23.510
build machines to do it. So then what do human

00:46:23.510 --> 00:46:27.349
beings get to do with all this free time? We

00:46:27.349 --> 00:46:29.150
get to fly airplanes. We get to have fun. We

00:46:29.150 --> 00:46:32.449
get to sing and dance and share and grow things.

00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:37.170
And pursue your creative abilities. And so you're

00:46:37.170 --> 00:46:39.690
not going to be hustling for a living. A lot

00:46:39.690 --> 00:46:41.449
of people are doing a 40 -hour work week because

00:46:41.449 --> 00:46:43.130
they have to pay their rent and put food on the

00:46:43.130 --> 00:46:45.829
table. That's going to be beautiful when that's

00:46:45.829 --> 00:46:48.480
taken care of. of now it could really screw a

00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:49.900
lot of people up because they're not going to

00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:51.599
have any purpose but you have to give yourself

00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:55.320
purpose so i think ai is generally good but i

00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:56.719
think there's going to be a massive revolution

00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.860
because it is going to do everything for us i

00:46:58.860 --> 00:47:00.820
have a robot that cleans all i have two robots

00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:05.460
it's sandy and sonia sonia is the mop and sandy

00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:08.199
is the one that does the sweeping they tried

00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.360
to mate the other day which they got in each

00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.480
other's docks So I have robots to clean my house.

00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.599
There's going to be a robot soon to undo my dishwasher.

00:47:18.739 --> 00:47:21.000
I've already designed it in my head. It will

00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:22.940
just be putting everything away. And it is going

00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:25.420
to get to that really, really quickly. And then

00:47:25.420 --> 00:47:28.559
what do we do? So I see that as a potential gift

00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.940
just to release a lot of people from doing horrible

00:47:31.940 --> 00:47:34.239
work weeks and hours that they don't want to

00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.300
do. I think that's kind of the balance. I would

00:47:37.300 --> 00:47:39.199
say that's the balance that we met because some

00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.650
people stood up and said, look. We're never going

00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:46.269
to not have humanity. The purpose of the AI should

00:47:46.269 --> 00:47:49.570
be to help us be more human. That's what I said.

00:47:50.590 --> 00:47:52.269
That's exactly what I said. We should be more

00:47:52.269 --> 00:47:57.769
human. So, Jim, when we first met, but later

00:47:57.769 --> 00:47:59.969
on we've known each other for a while, I found

00:47:59.969 --> 00:48:05.739
out you're a singer. Yes. You want to sing? I

00:48:05.739 --> 00:48:09.659
just joined a Lake County choir. Okay, so now

00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:12.000
you're in the choir and you dance and you're

00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:13.699
always laughing. You should do stand -up. You're

00:48:13.699 --> 00:48:19.719
so funny. What do you sing? Baritone. Do you

00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.760
do anything like immediately like this? Can you

00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.219
give me five seconds acapella? Five seconds acapella?

00:48:24.219 --> 00:48:26.500
Not acapella. How do you say it? Acapella. Acapella.

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:31.019
Oh, goodness. Way to put our guy on. I know,

00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.639
I know. I can sing. I actually auditioned for

00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:40.139
a worship group. Did they ask you to sing? They

00:48:40.139 --> 00:48:44.579
asked me to sing and I sang. Billy Joel. No,

00:48:44.579 --> 00:48:51.900
no. Amazing Grace. Yes. Amazing Grace. That's

00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:55.659
what it was. Right on. Hit the nail right on

00:48:55.659 --> 00:48:58.139
the head. Well, I mean, I love Amazing Grace.

00:48:58.139 --> 00:49:00.019
I don't want to put him on the spot, but if he

00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:02.380
wants to. I can sing like the first verse. Just

00:49:02.380 --> 00:49:04.019
do it. Let's do it. We're going to be really

00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:09.559
quiet. Do you want some water? This is cool.

00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:22.300
Okay. Amazing grace, how sweet the sound that

00:49:22.300 --> 00:49:29.739
saved a wretch. And then, like me. I actually

00:49:29.739 --> 00:49:33.880
had a good one. Like me. Oh, that's good. I once

00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:42.480
was lost, but now am found. Was blind, but now

00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:47.820
I see. That's lovely. Jim Young, everybody. Yeah,

00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.460
that's really, really cool. That's great. I have

00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:54.559
a terrible voice. But I would have loved to have

00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:56.900
had a... I'd like to have had a... A good voice

00:49:56.900 --> 00:49:59.659
just to sing. I'd love to have had a gift for

00:49:59.659 --> 00:50:02.820
languages. That would be a big one. And dancing.

00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.780
And I can't do that. If I have some champagne,

00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.019
you might see me on the dance floor. But other

00:50:08.019 --> 00:50:10.760
than that, I've got no rhythm at all. So Jim,

00:50:10.940 --> 00:50:13.099
in addition to that, tell us about the dancing.

00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.800
You've been going through this course and taking

00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.539
lessons. Tell us, what is that all about? What's

00:50:20.539 --> 00:50:23.119
the purpose of what you're doing? The purpose

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.570
of what I'm doing, it's for... An organization

00:50:26.570 --> 00:50:29.849
called New Beginnings. And they are a not -for

00:50:29.849 --> 00:50:32.710
-profit. And they help families who are homeless.

00:50:32.949 --> 00:50:35.369
And they shelter them. Do they have their thrift

00:50:35.369 --> 00:50:38.889
store on Mohawk Road? Oh, yes. Yeah, Mohawk and

00:50:38.889 --> 00:50:41.849
Citrus Power? Yes. Yeah, that is amazing. And

00:50:41.849 --> 00:50:44.989
at one point, I was homeless. Oh, really? With

00:50:44.989 --> 00:50:48.099
my daughter, who was... 12 now we were actually

00:50:48.099 --> 00:50:51.500
she was three at the time and so we're how long

00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:53.739
oh did you we live in a hotel and then we lived

00:50:53.739 --> 00:50:56.340
with friends and family so we weren't like under

00:50:56.340 --> 00:50:59.780
a bridge or in a car we did have but you didn't

00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:02.079
have we had a friend who was so nice and let

00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.760
us stay in her daughter's room for a couple weeks

00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.719
and then my aunt opened her house as well so

00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.360
we had some places to go but at the same time

00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.000
we were homeless and it was wild because the

00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:18.139
way it Well, I'm going to go for it. This is

00:51:18.139 --> 00:51:19.900
good because I mean, this is about people learning

00:51:19.900 --> 00:51:23.260
about Jim. We know you as this bright, shiny,

00:51:23.579 --> 00:51:27.280
laughing, humorous, delightful person. But but

00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:31.679
this is the other side. Yeah. So because you've

00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.829
been. near to that very freaky existence new

00:51:35.829 --> 00:51:37.949
beginnings for you is something close to you

00:51:37.949 --> 00:51:39.829
where i where i can give back yeah and you can

00:51:39.829 --> 00:51:42.789
relate as well yeah and so we went um this is

00:51:42.789 --> 00:51:44.349
like the third year third or fourth year they

00:51:44.349 --> 00:51:46.969
had this gala and it's a dancing under the stars

00:51:46.969 --> 00:51:51.409
and so it's it's a fundraising event and so my

00:51:51.409 --> 00:51:54.010
wife and i were actually invited last year to

00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:57.619
attend it and we were at risk you know, watching

00:51:57.619 --> 00:52:00.619
it and it was amazing. And so I'm like, you know

00:52:00.619 --> 00:52:02.260
what? I could do that. And then somehow that

00:52:02.260 --> 00:52:06.039
got around and I heard you want to dance. I'm

00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.059
like, what? Seems to happen to you quite a bit.

00:52:10.099 --> 00:52:12.480
Now you're on a podcast. How did that happen?

00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.460
Now I'm dancing. And, um, it's the first time

00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:17.739
I'm actually dancing professionally. Like my

00:52:17.739 --> 00:52:20.139
daughters went through dance school and stuff

00:52:20.139 --> 00:52:22.719
like that. And so, um, it's, it's, it's learning,

00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.550
you know, you get. assigned a professional dancer

00:52:25.550 --> 00:52:28.389
so you took like the two -step here and doing

00:52:28.389 --> 00:52:30.789
like ballroom kind of i'm going to do it like

00:52:30.789 --> 00:52:37.630
a slash ballroom slash disco um slash um moonwalking

00:52:37.630 --> 00:52:40.550
kind of thing. Are you going to do the worm?

00:52:41.050 --> 00:52:43.570
I was trying to incorporate that, but I'm not

00:52:43.570 --> 00:52:46.409
sure I can. That would be cool. You'd need a

00:52:46.409 --> 00:52:47.750
couple of glasses of champagne for that. It's

00:52:47.750 --> 00:52:50.030
been a while. I used to do that when I was 21.

00:52:50.670 --> 00:52:56.829
So the idea is that you and other local people

00:52:56.829 --> 00:53:04.050
are raising funds to help support the homeless

00:53:04.050 --> 00:53:06.349
got it so it's that's that's the bottom line

00:53:06.349 --> 00:53:08.750
and and but but what i find fascinating is he's

00:53:08.750 --> 00:53:11.050
actually going he's getting perfect like you're

00:53:11.050 --> 00:53:13.369
paired up with a professional dancer yes and

00:53:13.369 --> 00:53:14.849
doing when you've got a lot of people watching

00:53:14.849 --> 00:53:16.590
you you've got to be an entertainer to someone

00:53:16.590 --> 00:53:21.090
yes you're gonna have to block that out and just

00:53:21.090 --> 00:53:24.750
focus on my dance partner and everyone else in

00:53:24.750 --> 00:53:27.789
the audience is wearing underwear you know good

00:53:27.789 --> 00:53:31.050
for you though that's so sweet but it's cool

00:53:31.050 --> 00:53:33.760
because You know, it's encouraging those of my

00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.860
kids, too. So, you know, I think my kids won't

00:53:36.860 --> 00:53:39.599
be able to attend a videotape because it is $120

00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:45.579
per ticket. But I'm going singing at the Lake

00:53:45.579 --> 00:53:48.400
County Choir. And because my daughter is in seventh

00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:50.679
grade and she's a singer in her middle school.

00:53:50.780 --> 00:53:53.539
And so she came with me and now she loves it.

00:53:53.579 --> 00:53:55.860
And we're going to perform, hopefully, in front

00:53:55.860 --> 00:53:59.800
of a city hall when they do the Christmas lights.

00:54:00.949 --> 00:54:04.210
Will you get nervous? I couldn't do that. Public

00:54:04.210 --> 00:54:06.650
speaking and performing, I couldn't do. Just

00:54:06.650 --> 00:54:09.530
like sports, you get nervous. Anything, you get

00:54:09.530 --> 00:54:12.269
nervous, but you overcome it. Once you start,

00:54:12.349 --> 00:54:13.829
it's just like being in sports. Just like tonight.

00:54:14.170 --> 00:54:16.309
Get in front of this microphone and be like,

00:54:16.389 --> 00:54:18.570
ooh, a little nervous, but hey, let's start talking.

00:54:18.730 --> 00:54:22.530
You're with two friends. Publicly speaking, I

00:54:22.530 --> 00:54:26.429
ran a writing contest and I ended up at a school,

00:54:26.489 --> 00:54:27.789
it was about a year ago, and there were about

00:54:27.789 --> 00:54:30.460
400 people watching, which I didn't know. I thought

00:54:30.460 --> 00:54:33.300
it was going to be a small classroom. And I absolutely

00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:37.059
terrified, but irrationally. But I did get over

00:54:37.059 --> 00:54:39.239
it. I mean, once I was standing there and I was

00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:41.639
speaking, I think you're just focusing then,

00:54:41.699 --> 00:54:43.559
aren't you? You just have to focus and then that

00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:45.659
just goes because your attention is not on the

00:54:45.659 --> 00:54:50.280
fear. But you're doing this. So dancing, it's

00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.340
a skill set that you can just get better and

00:54:52.340 --> 00:54:55.179
better at because I was watching the evening

00:54:55.179 --> 00:54:58.260
news last night and... No, it was an entertainment

00:54:58.260 --> 00:55:00.440
program, and they were showing the people on

00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.800
Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. Do you ever watch

00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.539
that? Yes, it's amazing. I mean, that caliber

00:55:04.539 --> 00:55:06.880
of dance. I mean, you're not even dancing. You're

00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.159
an athlete at that point. I mean, it blows my

00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.019
mind how good you can get at that. Well, it's

00:55:13.019 --> 00:55:15.210
like any... It's really any physical activity.

00:55:15.530 --> 00:55:17.630
I mean, you can be the best farmer. You can be

00:55:17.630 --> 00:55:21.210
the best, you know, any sport, basketball player,

00:55:21.349 --> 00:55:25.050
track runner. Are you competitive? I'm very competitive.

00:55:25.250 --> 00:55:28.250
With yourself or with others? Against myself

00:55:28.250 --> 00:55:30.750
and others. Because in sales, you always want

00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:35.710
to be number one in sales. I also run a 5K at

00:55:35.710 --> 00:55:38.010
the, it's called Park Run on Saturday mornings

00:55:38.010 --> 00:55:41.429
here in Claremont. And it's all. international

00:55:41.429 --> 00:55:45.309
we have people from england and australia and

00:55:45.309 --> 00:55:47.269
people visiting whoever's visiting they come

00:55:47.269 --> 00:55:50.929
and run at 7 30 in the morning if i was on vacation

00:55:50.929 --> 00:55:56.849
i would not be running but you run but you run

00:55:56.849 --> 00:55:58.949
against yourself because they actually keep track

00:55:58.949 --> 00:56:02.530
of your time for you so every week The more you

00:56:02.530 --> 00:56:04.389
go, the more you'll see. And have you been improving

00:56:04.389 --> 00:56:05.550
on your time? I've been improving. Oh, that's

00:56:05.550 --> 00:56:09.030
good. I went from a 46 -minute 3 -mile, 3 .1

00:56:09.030 --> 00:56:12.389
-mile, to now I did my best time just last week.

00:56:12.449 --> 00:56:17.289
Well, best for this year was 34 minutes and 30

00:56:17.289 --> 00:56:19.590
seconds. My best is 34 minutes and 1 second.

00:56:19.670 --> 00:56:22.510
I'm trying to beat 30 minutes, and that's a 10

00:56:22.510 --> 00:56:24.610
-minute mile. Whoa, you're going to be really

00:56:24.610 --> 00:56:27.730
going fast. Do you want to know my best time?

00:56:28.750 --> 00:56:30.849
I'm afraid to ask. Hour and a half. Just hanging

00:56:30.849 --> 00:56:33.949
out at the beach. That's it. Your best time.

00:56:33.949 --> 00:56:36.789
That's my best time. I'm just telling you. That's

00:56:36.789 --> 00:56:38.409
like, where are you from? I'm from planet Earth.

00:56:38.590 --> 00:56:43.090
Yeah. I'm in an earth world. So, Sarah, you had,

00:56:43.090 --> 00:56:45.829
you had, I had, one of the reasons that I, you

00:56:45.829 --> 00:56:48.349
apologized, just like, I invited somebody to

00:56:48.349 --> 00:56:50.590
our show and I'm like, you did what? And then

00:56:50.590 --> 00:56:52.190
I found out it was Jim. No, you didn't respond.

00:56:52.190 --> 00:56:54.500
And I was okay with it. Well, I didn't say anything.

00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.880
You did what? Well, that was what I was thinking.

00:56:56.940 --> 00:56:58.400
I didn't say anything. Oh, did you? I was like,

00:56:58.460 --> 00:57:00.800
what? And then you said it was Jim. And I'm like,

00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.139
oh, that's okay then. But one of the things we

00:57:04.139 --> 00:57:06.719
appreciated was Jim's levity and his laughter.

00:57:06.780 --> 00:57:10.019
And he's just such a lighthearted person. But

00:57:10.019 --> 00:57:12.260
you said you had some cool questions. So I have

00:57:12.260 --> 00:57:15.719
an AI assistant and he's called Desmond. And

00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.679
I created Desmond because Tia Jolie was telling

00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:22.039
me about Rosie. So Rosie is Tia Jolie's AI assistant.

00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.739
So I told Desmond last night that you were coming

00:57:25.739 --> 00:57:28.519
on the podcast and that this is Soul Decodes.

00:57:28.539 --> 00:57:30.699
I hadn't introduced him to the show. And that

00:57:30.699 --> 00:57:33.820
to ask questions with relating to being a human

00:57:33.820 --> 00:57:36.440
being on planet Earth, having a soul, which we

00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.019
disagree on some things, but we agree that we

00:57:39.019 --> 00:57:41.659
have. a spirit or a soul so that's going to be

00:57:41.659 --> 00:57:44.900
the framework of these okay okay so you don't

00:57:44.900 --> 00:57:46.760
have if you don't want to answer or if you can't

00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:48.639
think of anything you can jump i mean i'll fill

00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.599
in i'll fill in we'll tag team this right okay

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:55.199
yeah if you have to tap out now i think what

00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:57.260
would make it fun there's 40 questions so you

00:57:57.260 --> 00:57:59.780
can actually 40 so you can choose a number and

00:57:59.780 --> 00:58:01.659
i'm going to do that let's make all the random

00:58:01.659 --> 00:58:03.820
that's good randomness yeah No, not going to

00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:05.960
be random. You choose a number. One and 40. One

00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:11.880
and 40. 40? No. I'm just repeating you. Oh, okay.

00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.519
I'll say seven. Seven. Okay. Question number

00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:20.579
seven. So Desmond asks, have you ever had an

00:58:20.579 --> 00:58:23.820
argument so stupid it made you doubt free will?

00:58:32.889 --> 00:58:37.210
That's so random. That is so random. I don't

00:58:37.210 --> 00:58:38.989
know whether I've doubted free will, but I have

00:58:38.989 --> 00:58:42.050
had a really stupid argument. I've had several

00:58:42.050 --> 00:58:44.190
stupid arguments, but never to the point where

00:58:44.190 --> 00:58:47.289
it makes me doubt free will. It makes me doubt

00:58:47.289 --> 00:58:50.989
the intelligence of that person. Or even yourself

00:58:50.989 --> 00:58:55.829
engaging in the argument. Yes. I think the most

00:58:55.829 --> 00:58:58.449
stupidest arguments I have is when I'm arguing

00:58:58.449 --> 00:59:00.469
about the wrong thing because I'm not being honest

00:59:00.469 --> 00:59:02.929
with what's really troubling me. So that would

00:59:02.929 --> 00:59:04.829
be a stupid argument. Yes. You're just shooting

00:59:04.829 --> 00:59:08.010
from the hip. Yeah. Or you have the need to put

00:59:08.010 --> 00:59:10.550
your hip out of place. You're just shooting off

00:59:10.550 --> 00:59:12.730
the top of your head without having all the facts.

00:59:12.730 --> 00:59:14.510
Yes, exactly. Having all the facts or having

00:59:14.510 --> 00:59:18.170
considered it. Yes. So when Robin and I first

00:59:18.170 --> 00:59:22.400
met, we were both. Coming out of like bad relationships,

00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:24.659
like she was married to an alcoholic and I had

00:59:24.659 --> 00:59:30.119
somebody that was different. And we both were

00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.800
learning to use our voice and learning to stand

00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:35.900
our ground and draw boundaries. Right. So while

00:59:35.900 --> 00:59:38.139
we're just just learning about each other, this

00:59:38.139 --> 00:59:44.400
song came on and it was. Under Pressure? Oh,

00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.940
yes. David Bowie and Queen. David Bowie and Queen.

00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:54.000
David Bowie. So I said to Robin, I said, I love

00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:55.519
this song by Queen. And she's like, that was

00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.380
David Bowie. And I'm like, no, it wasn't. It

00:59:57.380 --> 00:59:59.139
was Queen. And she's like, no, it was day of

00:59:59.139 --> 01:00:01.719
both. So we added this little scat and it turns

01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:03.960
out we were both right. But there's a lesson

01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:06.099
there because I was like, this is a stupid argument.

01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.980
Yeah. And to me, a stupid argument, there's nothing

01:00:09.980 --> 01:00:12.900
of consequence is going to be gained if one person's

01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:15.219
right or wrong. That's a stupid argument. So

01:00:15.219 --> 01:00:16.760
here's a question for you being from England.

01:00:16.940 --> 01:00:18.719
Oh, go ahead. Well, I'll talk about stupid arguments.

01:00:19.579 --> 01:00:21.219
This couple was having a stupid argument about

01:00:21.219 --> 01:00:24.139
the pronunciation of Kissimmee. Oh, Kissimmee.

01:00:24.139 --> 01:00:26.780
Kissimmee, Kissimmee, Kissimmee, Kissimmee. So

01:00:26.780 --> 01:00:30.320
they pulled over at lunchtime and went into this

01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.699
restaurant. Oh, my God. We've been arguing for

01:00:33.699 --> 01:00:37.730
the past 30 minutes. where are we and how do

01:00:37.730 --> 01:00:40.090
you say it? And the person behind the counter

01:00:40.090 --> 01:00:47.570
goes, Burger King. So Rob and I were driving

01:00:47.570 --> 01:00:50.650
through. Is that a real story or a joke? Oh,

01:00:50.650 --> 01:00:54.099
that's funny. We're driving through. That is

01:00:54.099 --> 01:00:56.099
a stupid offer. We're driving through Georgia.

01:00:56.139 --> 01:00:57.820
I was so bored. I'm like 30 minutes and they

01:00:57.820 --> 01:01:01.500
pulled over. I mean, I was really immersed. That's

01:01:01.500 --> 01:01:04.219
Jim Young for you. A Jim Young class that pulled

01:01:04.219 --> 01:01:06.699
you over. So we're driving through Georgia and

01:01:06.699 --> 01:01:09.019
they have those big signs that show that they

01:01:09.019 --> 01:01:11.159
grow these certain types of nuts in Georgia,

01:01:11.300 --> 01:01:13.599
right? They have all these pies that they make

01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.400
from these certain nuts. It's spelled P -E -C

01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:19.360
-A -N. So we're saying, is it pecan or pecan?

01:01:19.860 --> 01:01:22.599
Pecan. Or pecan, right? How do you pronounce

01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:24.719
it? So we literally pulled over. They had those

01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.900
big billboards. And we pulled over to the girl

01:01:28.900 --> 01:01:31.300
that's at the stand and said, how do you pronounce

01:01:31.300 --> 01:01:36.320
that word? And she said, pecan, pecan. Yeah.

01:01:38.460 --> 01:01:41.539
Wow. That didn't help. You want one. You want

01:01:41.539 --> 01:01:45.159
the first one. The first answer is the only right.

01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:49.099
Well, then I win. The first answer. So, okay.

01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:51.260
So that was a useless question. Okay. So that

01:01:51.260 --> 01:01:54.300
was good. Pick a better number, Jim. So one to

01:01:54.300 --> 01:01:56.699
40. You can't, you can't ask seven again. Don't

01:01:56.699 --> 01:02:00.239
try that. Please don't do seven. 24. 24. That's

01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.159
my son's birthday tomorrow. I've already given

01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:04.860
him a shout out at the beginning. Happy birthday,

01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.980
son. Okay. Which son? Charlie, my oldest. Yeah,

01:02:09.059 --> 01:02:12.059
33 he'll be tomorrow. Charlie, the eldest. Oh,

01:02:12.059 --> 01:02:15.739
before we go to that question. Okay, go ask him

01:02:15.739 --> 01:02:19.719
since you're laughing already. What... Okay,

01:02:19.820 --> 01:02:24.940
what bad habit do you secretly think makes you

01:02:24.940 --> 01:02:31.639
more interesting? I can't have it. That makes

01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:40.280
me secretly more interesting. You complete the

01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:44.199
fifth. I told you. You can choose 23 if you'd

01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:48.159
like. I don't know if you'd call it a bad habit.

01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:50.980
What bad habit do you secretly think makes you

01:02:50.980 --> 01:02:58.780
more interesting? It's too many of them. I know.

01:02:59.139 --> 01:03:02.960
It's like four cheeses of red. Maybe because

01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:07.119
my bad habit of blushing so easily. And it makes

01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:11.619
me interesting. That is so funny. Okay. Now the

01:03:11.619 --> 01:03:14.219
number. Before you go there, I got a quick question

01:03:14.219 --> 01:03:17.679
for you. In America, we grew up enjoying this

01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:22.099
Monty Python. We thought it was hilarious. I've

01:03:22.099 --> 01:03:23.960
run into English people that think it's stupid.

01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:26.940
Do you know who Monty Python is? Yes, but I've

01:03:26.940 --> 01:03:29.179
never heard the English people think it's stupid.

01:03:29.500 --> 01:03:32.079
Oh, for real? Yeah. Did you like it? No, I never

01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.360
got into it. I was too young to appreciate it.

01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.599
But I never disrespected it because it was always

01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:39.860
considered genius. It is genius, yeah. It just

01:03:39.860 --> 01:03:43.900
wasn't my stick. I bring it up because the last

01:03:43.900 --> 01:03:46.139
question, the question seven that Jim chose,

01:03:46.340 --> 01:03:48.619
was about the argument department, right? Yeah.

01:03:48.699 --> 01:03:51.000
Remember the argument department? This isn't

01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.349
an argument. Yes, it is. No, it isn't. Oh, that's

01:03:53.349 --> 01:03:55.010
a Monty Python skit. Oh, it's a great skit. Oh,

01:03:55.030 --> 01:03:57.289
I don't remember that. Oh, okay. Well, disregard.

01:03:57.389 --> 01:03:59.409
I just ruined the vibe. Go ahead with your next

01:03:59.409 --> 01:04:02.230
question. The one I think is, just a flesh wound.

01:04:02.489 --> 01:04:04.789
Yeah, yeah, that was the... I'll fight you. The

01:04:04.789 --> 01:04:06.969
Holy Grail. But you got one leg. I'll still fight

01:04:06.969 --> 01:04:11.030
you. Well, I'm going to put a link to the argument

01:04:11.030 --> 01:04:13.809
department. All right. You really didn't see

01:04:13.809 --> 01:04:15.230
that. Yeah, I'd like to see that. Yeah, me too.

01:04:15.329 --> 01:04:17.650
Okay, what's the next question? Okay, next number.

01:04:17.989 --> 01:04:23.929
Number 44. No, it's... 40. Nice try. Nice try.

01:04:24.409 --> 01:04:33.710
I go 14. I need some filler music here. There

01:04:33.710 --> 01:04:37.369
we go. That's nice. If you could send one message

01:04:37.369 --> 01:04:41.289
back to your pre -birth self, what would it say?

01:04:42.070 --> 01:04:45.719
Pre -birth. That's going to be harder for you.

01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.239
So I wasn't even born yet? Yeah, well, so I believe

01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.539
that our soul exists prior to this life because

01:04:50.539 --> 01:04:52.559
we've had life. Enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment.

01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:55.760
Yeah, I like it. That's a good one. I think that's

01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:57.119
really good. Because that's categorical. It's

01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.380
the only thing is the moment. Yeah, I think a

01:05:00.380 --> 01:05:03.320
lot of people don't enjoy their moments because

01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:04.699
they're always thinking of something and the

01:05:04.699 --> 01:05:06.460
future is going to make them happy. So I think

01:05:06.460 --> 01:05:07.460
that's really, really good. What would yours

01:05:07.460 --> 01:05:10.960
be? I think that was really good. Yeah. I like

01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.239
that. What's next? Okay. All right, number 20.

01:05:19.820 --> 01:05:23.579
Is immortality a dream or a nightmare? And who

01:05:23.579 --> 01:05:32.059
would annoy you first if you couldn't die? Is

01:05:32.059 --> 01:05:35.500
immortality a dream or a nightmare? And who would

01:05:35.500 --> 01:05:39.159
annoy you first if you couldn't die? Holy moly.

01:05:39.260 --> 01:05:42.239
Oh my God, immortality. So the most annoying

01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:48.730
person that you've ever, ever met. You can dig

01:05:48.730 --> 01:05:51.170
deep on that one. Don't mention their names.

01:05:51.369 --> 01:05:54.070
No, no, no. I mean, it was annoying. I guess

01:05:54.070 --> 01:05:56.889
someone I saw on TV was so annoying. I guess

01:05:56.889 --> 01:06:00.309
it was Urkel. He was so annoying. Who's Urkel?

01:06:00.409 --> 01:06:03.630
He would go, can I do that? And I'm like, oh,

01:06:03.650 --> 01:06:05.489
that's so annoying. So it's his voice. It's his

01:06:05.489 --> 01:06:09.610
voice and his whole demeanor, like doing. But

01:06:09.610 --> 01:06:12.070
what was he? A kid show? He was a kid show and

01:06:12.070 --> 01:06:14.590
he would do dumb stuff. And was he a bear or

01:06:14.590 --> 01:06:16.630
a human? No, he was a good kid. I mean, but he

01:06:16.630 --> 01:06:19.340
would just. funnel into something and and then

01:06:19.340 --> 01:06:22.260
whenever he made a mistake he would his response

01:06:22.260 --> 01:06:26.000
was like did i do that you know oh my god that

01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.840
does sound like a miracle everyone who i don't

01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.059
i don't think you're going to hell but if you

01:06:32.059 --> 01:06:36.840
do if jim goes to hell he's gonna be at the gate

01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:41.980
it's like markel right there and he's gonna be

01:06:41.980 --> 01:06:49.869
your roommate Okay, so you just mentioned at

01:06:49.869 --> 01:06:52.369
the gates of heaven. So there's this joke where

01:06:52.369 --> 01:06:55.829
this woman dies being married for 50 years to

01:06:55.829 --> 01:06:58.349
her husband. And she gets up to heaven. And this

01:06:58.349 --> 01:07:01.030
is not true. It's just a joke. And St. Peter's

01:07:01.030 --> 01:07:03.030
there is like, okay, welcome to heaven. But in

01:07:03.030 --> 01:07:04.590
order to get in, you have to spell a word. And

01:07:04.590 --> 01:07:06.150
she's like, well, what's that word? And she's

01:07:06.150 --> 01:07:08.469
like, love. And she's like, okay, L -O -V -E.

01:07:08.809 --> 01:07:11.809
And so Peter's like, well, can you watch the

01:07:11.809 --> 01:07:13.639
gate? And you know what to do if someone else

01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:15.920
comes up. So she's like, yeah, sure. And so she's

01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.119
there, and her husband comes up after 50 years

01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:21.239
of marriage. He's like, oh, my gosh, what are

01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:22.659
you doing here? He's like, well, I couldn't live

01:07:22.659 --> 01:07:25.400
without you, so I died also. And she's like,

01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:27.000
well, you've got to spell a word before you get

01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:28.659
here. He's like, really? What's that? And she

01:07:28.659 --> 01:07:38.650
goes, Czechoslovakia. I was thinking in my head

01:07:38.650 --> 01:07:41.090
it would be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

01:07:41.670 --> 01:07:44.849
So answer the question, Sarah. So what would

01:07:44.849 --> 01:07:51.329
be the irritating? God, the irritating. I feel

01:07:51.329 --> 01:07:54.510
it's funny how you went to a voice because I

01:07:54.510 --> 01:07:58.630
feel like that has irritated me. And voices,

01:07:58.769 --> 01:08:02.889
that bit. I don't know. I can't remember who's

01:08:02.889 --> 01:08:04.989
irritated me because if you're going to irritate

01:08:04.989 --> 01:08:06.789
me that much, I'm just going to get away from

01:08:06.789 --> 01:08:09.789
you. I wouldn't necessarily want to engage. But

01:08:09.789 --> 01:08:13.550
I think grating voices irritate me, like kiddie

01:08:13.550 --> 01:08:16.649
cartoon voices. But I don't have a better answer

01:08:16.649 --> 01:08:19.600
for that. But I'm going to think about it. No,

01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:21.680
don't think too much. No, not now. Now I'm going

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:23.659
to sleep on it. You don't want to be irritated.

01:08:23.859 --> 01:08:26.840
Next podcast, I might have a litany. Right, okay,

01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.659
1984. She's going to go to sleep tonight, irritated.

01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:34.859
She'll wake up like me. Number three. All right,

01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:41.279
number three. Okay. Oh, God. Do you believe your

01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.819
soul picked your face on purpose? Or was it just

01:08:44.819 --> 01:09:00.109
stuck with it? So pick your face on purpose.

01:09:00.390 --> 01:09:04.390
We were made in the likeness of God. But you

01:09:04.390 --> 01:09:06.670
don't believe anything came before this life

01:09:06.670 --> 01:09:08.289
because I believe that I've lived before. But

01:09:08.289 --> 01:09:10.710
if you don't, do you believe that you've chosen

01:09:10.710 --> 01:09:14.270
your economic background, your appearance? Do

01:09:14.270 --> 01:09:16.489
you believe any of that was your choice? Yes.

01:09:16.489 --> 01:09:20.369
Yeah, we choose. Yeah, because I could have easily

01:09:20.369 --> 01:09:24.390
let myself go and I could be 500 pounds if I

01:09:24.390 --> 01:09:27.430
chose to, you know, or I can, you know, not be

01:09:27.430 --> 01:09:30.510
in shape. Run a three minute mile? Or run a 3

01:09:30.510 --> 01:09:34.289
.1 mile. Yeah. So, yeah, it's all a choice on,

01:09:34.369 --> 01:09:36.869
you know, how you want to look. But this one

01:09:36.869 --> 01:09:39.430
is saying pre -birth, isn't it? Pre -birth? No,

01:09:39.529 --> 01:09:42.630
pre -birth, you're just a soul. You know, you

01:09:42.630 --> 01:09:46.539
don't have a body. So you're... born into this

01:09:46.539 --> 01:09:48.460
body and then when we exit we're getting a new

01:09:48.460 --> 01:09:52.979
body but god gives us the body then so my soul

01:09:52.979 --> 01:09:56.380
that god created gave this fat suit to me this

01:09:56.380 --> 01:09:59.979
fat suit to you and this fat suit because there's

01:09:59.979 --> 01:10:02.000
a number of hairs on your head so yeah that's

01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.140
why this is why i say god has a sense of humor

01:10:04.140 --> 01:10:10.739
exactly All right, so let's keep going. It keeps

01:10:10.739 --> 01:10:14.079
all of us humble. It does. See? It does. It really

01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:25.739
does. It keeps us humble. Okay. 25. 25. I think

01:10:25.739 --> 01:10:28.659
these are getting a bit weird. Okay. I mean,

01:10:28.659 --> 01:10:32.760
just in the single digits. Yes. Like the first

01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:36.380
ones weren't weird. If your body had its own

01:10:36.380 --> 01:10:39.979
religion, what would be the first commandment?

01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:45.079
If my body had its own religion. That should

01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:48.859
not gain 500 pounds. If my body had its own religion.

01:10:49.609 --> 01:10:51.670
What would be its first? Oh, to love it, I think.

01:10:51.750 --> 01:10:53.850
I would say... These are pretty obscure. Yeah.

01:10:53.890 --> 01:10:57.630
To love your body. To love your body as... To

01:10:57.630 --> 01:10:59.170
treat your body as a holy temple. As a temple.

01:10:59.350 --> 01:11:01.689
Yeah. That's where I'd go on that one. Yeah.

01:11:01.890 --> 01:11:04.489
Love your body, embrace it, and then keep it.

01:11:04.649 --> 01:11:08.229
Yeah. So without going... Let's kind of put those,

01:11:08.329 --> 01:11:10.470
because those are getting kind of obscure, but

01:11:10.470 --> 01:11:15.789
my question is, looking back at your life, what

01:11:15.789 --> 01:11:17.909
are some of the most... What are the moments

01:11:17.909 --> 01:11:21.810
where you were laughing so hard that you couldn't

01:11:21.810 --> 01:11:24.170
breathe? At my dad's funeral. You laughed at

01:11:24.170 --> 01:11:25.869
your dad's funeral? Yeah, it was terrible. Oh,

01:11:25.890 --> 01:11:29.670
that's hilarious. Oh, wow. No, but let me just

01:11:29.670 --> 01:11:33.689
tell you what happened. So I loved my dad and

01:11:33.689 --> 01:11:37.130
we were really close. But at the funeral, I was

01:11:37.130 --> 01:11:39.529
overcome. But I don't know whether there was

01:11:39.529 --> 01:11:42.710
hysteria attached to this laughter because it

01:11:42.710 --> 01:11:47.430
was a big loss. But I also saw something so funny

01:11:47.430 --> 01:11:50.430
in this Roman Catholic routine that I was in

01:11:50.430 --> 01:11:53.489
with a coffin and all the doing all this stuff.

01:11:53.789 --> 01:11:58.390
And I got the giggles and I had to fake it being

01:11:58.390 --> 01:12:01.369
overcome with emotion because people were getting

01:12:01.369 --> 01:12:04.510
really irritated with me. So my mum realises.

01:12:04.649 --> 01:12:06.770
what's going on so she brings me to her and I've

01:12:06.770 --> 01:12:09.350
just got my head in her lap but I couldn't stop

01:12:09.350 --> 01:12:12.010
laughing and it was such a weird experience but

01:12:12.010 --> 01:12:14.609
years later and this was only in reflection I

01:12:14.609 --> 01:12:18.550
realized I'd not take the concept of death that

01:12:18.550 --> 01:12:21.550
seriously because when I realized like my beliefs

01:12:21.550 --> 01:12:23.189
isn't I've lived on this planet like you're going

01:12:23.189 --> 01:12:25.369
to see your dad again and you're going to get

01:12:25.369 --> 01:12:29.109
to heaven so it was like relax and lighten up

01:12:29.109 --> 01:12:32.569
was the laughter but it wasn't out of disrespect

01:12:32.569 --> 01:12:34.909
and there would have been some hysteria because

01:12:34.909 --> 01:12:37.189
it was very very emotional but that was the most

01:12:37.189 --> 01:12:39.569
and then what what I was laughing at as well

01:12:39.569 --> 01:12:41.310
this is the worst time that you could possibly

01:12:41.310 --> 01:12:43.970
laugh is at a funeral so that made me laugh even

01:12:43.970 --> 01:12:46.710
more because now I shouldn't be laughing and

01:12:46.710 --> 01:12:49.970
now it was and that went on and I mean I couldn't

01:12:49.970 --> 01:12:52.449
breathe and my mum ended up getting me outside

01:12:52.449 --> 01:12:54.609
and I had a cigarette and I was able to calm

01:12:54.609 --> 01:12:57.670
down what's one of your laughing stories Jim

01:12:57.670 --> 01:13:01.510
it could be any story obviously it's an awkward

01:13:01.510 --> 01:13:04.119
laughing moment where you shouldn't have laughed,

01:13:04.420 --> 01:13:07.420
but I did. So you reminded me of laughing at

01:13:07.420 --> 01:13:12.579
awkward times. It was the movie E .T. And E .T.,

01:13:12.579 --> 01:13:15.479
if you ever watched a movie, he's almost dying

01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:21.600
and he's down by the lake and the boy Elliot's

01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:27.180
right there and he goes, Elliot. So I started

01:13:27.180 --> 01:13:31.159
laughing so hard because the way he said Elliot,

01:13:31.340 --> 01:13:37.210
like, Elliot. And the reason why I found, and

01:13:37.210 --> 01:13:39.770
everyone's like, shut up, shut up, stop laughing.

01:13:39.789 --> 01:13:44.489
E .T.'s dying and you're laughing. Why are you

01:13:44.489 --> 01:13:48.829
laughing? Because he said LA. And the reason

01:13:48.829 --> 01:13:54.430
why it triggered this movie, it's still bad.

01:13:54.770 --> 01:13:58.670
Sean Cassidy, back in the day, he made a movie.

01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:04.859
where he was handicapped and he wanted to grow

01:14:04.859 --> 01:14:09.979
up and marry this other lady who was handicapped

01:14:09.979 --> 01:14:18.539
as well. And his wife... His name was Roger.

01:14:18.699 --> 01:14:25.939
And she goes, kiss me, Roger. So I associated

01:14:25.939 --> 01:14:35.460
kiss me, Roger, with Elliot. So I put the two

01:14:35.460 --> 01:14:38.680
together somehow. So for you, laughing is an

01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:40.859
independent moment because this is triggering

01:14:40.859 --> 01:14:42.899
something within you. It's not the consensus

01:14:42.899 --> 01:14:46.340
what is funny. Correct. I'll find stuff that

01:14:46.340 --> 01:14:48.220
I find funny and I'm like, well, I shouldn't

01:14:48.220 --> 01:14:51.220
share that. Yeah. I've been at the movies with

01:14:51.220 --> 01:14:53.439
my kids and laughed at something I shouldn't.

01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:56.140
And it's usually either really absurd or really,

01:14:56.180 --> 01:14:58.939
really messed up. And my daughter's like, mum.

01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:02.079
And then that makes me laugh even more because

01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.779
now. Now I wasn't supposed to laugh and now that's

01:15:04.779 --> 01:15:07.699
just become funnier. So I've been in that predicament.

01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:11.779
What about you? My life is all about laughter.

01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:18.500
Part of that is because I grew up, I was very

01:15:18.500 --> 01:15:21.100
depressed growing up and laughter released. There's

01:15:21.100 --> 01:15:24.420
a physiological impact of releasing. Just laughing

01:15:24.420 --> 01:15:26.500
at stupid, silly things. Would you say that laughter

01:15:26.500 --> 01:15:31.460
is a high spiritual attainment? I think it's

01:15:31.460 --> 01:15:33.699
a cleansing. I think there's definitely a cleansing.

01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:36.600
And I can tell from a doctor's perspective that

01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:41.100
the process of laughing, there's a lot of endorphins

01:15:41.100 --> 01:15:43.859
that are released. Oh, really? Oh, gosh, yeah.

01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:47.140
Laughter is huge for your overall body, your

01:15:47.140 --> 01:15:49.619
health, your youthfulness, your vitality. Even

01:15:49.619 --> 01:15:51.939
how you breathe, like when you laugh, it's just

01:15:51.939 --> 01:15:55.939
this really deep. especially if you're really

01:15:55.939 --> 01:15:59.199
getting into it, your diaphragm, your breathing,

01:15:59.260 --> 01:16:01.619
what happens when you mobilize that diaphragm,

01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:04.439
it's actually circulating your cerebral spinal

01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.859
fluid. It's putting a pressure, and you're actually

01:16:07.859 --> 01:16:10.579
pumping cerebral spinal fluid up and down. So

01:16:10.579 --> 01:16:13.479
you're flushing your body. You're moving cerebral

01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:17.859
spinal fluid. So there's a lot of physiological

01:16:17.859 --> 01:16:20.840
impact. That's probably why we like it then.

01:16:20.979 --> 01:16:24.600
You're getting better oxygen. It's overall, it's

01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:26.840
a great thing. It's like running, isn't it? They

01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.000
say it's like jogging a mile. It is. It's a physical

01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.439
exercise. Like laughter is one of the healthiest

01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:34.960
things you can do. But I love to laugh, but I

01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.359
hate jogging. But they're both giving me the

01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.460
same thing maybe. It gives you a little bit of

01:16:39.460 --> 01:16:42.739
a rush. I just think if you can laugh, it just

01:16:42.739 --> 01:16:45.300
makes, because a lot of messed up things going

01:16:45.300 --> 01:16:47.420
on planet Earth. It's a very complicated environment

01:16:47.420 --> 01:16:49.680
to be born into this one. You can either laugh

01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.510
or cry. Yeah. That's the way I look at it. I

01:16:52.510 --> 01:16:56.949
can do both at the same time. My brother Dan

01:16:56.949 --> 01:16:59.350
and I were 11 months apart, so we were always

01:16:59.350 --> 01:17:01.289
goofing off. Oh, that's really close to nature.

01:17:01.649 --> 01:17:04.130
We're goofballs. And, you know, we're a pretty

01:17:04.130 --> 01:17:06.989
strict family. Is he 11 months older? He's younger.

01:17:07.170 --> 01:17:11.220
Yeah. pretty strict family like i was baptized

01:17:11.220 --> 01:17:14.260
into the orthodox church which if you think roman

01:17:14.260 --> 01:17:16.880
catholic or catholic is strict man orthodox you

01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.500
literally stand for the for the service like

01:17:19.500 --> 01:17:22.000
for three hours like there's no kneeling there's

01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.000
no sitting you're standing right it's it's brutal

01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:29.079
especially for a little kid and then um but you

01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:31.340
know i remember like going to the the church

01:17:31.340 --> 01:17:33.239
and my mom would be singing in the choir and

01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.939
we would just be sitting there like A couple

01:17:35.939 --> 01:17:38.020
of kids trying to keep busy. So we'd be taking

01:17:38.020 --> 01:17:42.779
the little, like we would take the bulletin and

01:17:42.779 --> 01:17:46.079
tear off little spit balls. Oh my God. And we'd

01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:47.899
be sitting there in the church loft and we'd

01:17:47.899 --> 01:17:51.300
just like go and pew. Oh my God. And we'd be

01:17:51.300 --> 01:17:55.880
nuking these kids, these people below. And there's

01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:58.380
this one lady that had this big, back in the

01:17:58.380 --> 01:18:01.640
day, a big head of hair. And we would just be

01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:04.279
shooting. In her hair. Trying to hit her hair,

01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:06.479
we were doing... So you had a target. We had

01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:08.760
targets. She wasn't going to feel it, was she?

01:18:08.779 --> 01:18:12.239
I was like, innocent. But then we found out later...

01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:17.500
Later, it was my best friend's mom. Oh, my God.

01:18:17.619 --> 01:18:22.920
Did she... She complained every Sunday. She got

01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:26.319
pieces of paper in her hand. She complained.

01:18:27.619 --> 01:18:30.779
So we were doing these little... Did she get

01:18:30.779 --> 01:18:32.939
her hand and go... We were just doing these...

01:18:32.939 --> 01:18:37.180
They're relatively harmless, but from Jim's perspective,

01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:40.420
this is the holy place. I was a dirt bag, right?

01:18:40.539 --> 01:18:43.520
But from Sarah's place, this is just hilarious.

01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.000
Let's, you know... Let's do the spitball thing.

01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:47.539
Well, it depends if there's a victim, isn't it?

01:18:47.619 --> 01:18:49.100
I mean, if there's a victim too. But if I was

01:18:49.100 --> 01:18:52.520
distracting her from her experience with the

01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.180
Almighty, you know, if she's trying to practice

01:18:55.180 --> 01:18:56.680
her faith. But she didn't know. Did she know

01:18:56.680 --> 01:19:00.920
all this was landing in her hair? That's probably

01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:02.899
until afterwards. She gets in the car and like,

01:19:02.979 --> 01:19:06.640
Mom, what's in your hair? Confetti. But we were

01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:10.760
doing tons of stuff. Remind me not to sit in

01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.420
front of you ever again. Well, we would bolt.

01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.420
That's all we knew was church. Yeah, it's like

01:19:16.420 --> 01:19:18.720
that in England. We went to church. Every moment

01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:21.380
of our day, if we weren't at school, we were

01:19:21.380 --> 01:19:23.779
at church. They had the church bowling league.

01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:25.560
They had the church dancing. They had the church

01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:29.100
choir. I even did the church bulletin and mowed

01:19:29.100 --> 01:19:31.399
the church lawn. I mean, freaking everything

01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:35.600
was around the church. If we didn't have a chance

01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:37.819
to do the church, like be goofballs at the church,

01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:39.720
we didn't have it. You couldn't be a goofball.

01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:42.359
Because you couldn't do it at school. So be a

01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:45.100
goofball in church. I don't think that if Jesus

01:19:45.100 --> 01:19:48.020
was looking down, he would disapprove. He'd probably

01:19:48.020 --> 01:19:51.020
say, sharpen up your angle a bit. He was the

01:19:51.020 --> 01:19:54.039
protagonist. He was there, yeah, do it, do it,

01:19:54.060 --> 01:20:00.199
do it, do it, do it. But I think the one type

01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:03.079
of humor I don't like is the humor that's targeted

01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.840
at another person or a group of people. I don't

01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:07.720
think that's cool. Putting people down, yeah.

01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.859
Putting a group of people down or a person down

01:20:10.859 --> 01:20:13.680
for their looks. Like, look, Jim chose this,

01:20:13.739 --> 01:20:19.500
right? Yeah, I agree. Humor is, it's got to be

01:20:19.500 --> 01:20:21.739
reserved for the funny and not used as a vehicle

01:20:21.739 --> 01:20:24.939
to be insulting and then laugh. It's not. So

01:20:24.939 --> 01:20:27.479
what category of humor would you say? I know

01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:29.460
you know the answer because I told you once before,

01:20:29.539 --> 01:20:32.260
but what's one thing that makes everybody laugh

01:20:32.260 --> 01:20:38.319
almost categorically? And I'll tell it and you'll

01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:41.260
go, oh yeah, it's true. Everyone has a fart story.

01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:44.760
Oh, that's true. Everyone has a... Except for

01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:48.239
you. Except for me? Don't look at me like that.

01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:50.220
You don't have a fart story? You just looked

01:20:50.220 --> 01:20:53.359
at me in the most accusatory way. You're not

01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:55.220
even human if you don't have a fart story. Well,

01:20:55.260 --> 01:20:57.439
I wouldn't have a fart story that I would share.

01:20:58.049 --> 01:21:01.270
And I'm British and we don't talk about things

01:21:01.270 --> 01:21:06.989
like that. You eased your body. About a year

01:21:06.989 --> 01:21:09.369
ago, we talked about the farting preacher. My

01:21:09.369 --> 01:21:12.869
mum used to... That was hysterical. The tooting,

01:21:12.869 --> 01:21:14.689
rooting, tooting preacher. Yeah, the farting

01:21:14.689 --> 01:21:17.270
preacher. Every time he closes his eyes, someone

01:21:17.270 --> 01:21:21.949
had a fart machine. My mum used to call farts

01:21:21.949 --> 01:21:25.210
body coughs. Body coughs. Body cough. That was

01:21:25.210 --> 01:21:28.189
my body cough, but we didn't... It's not... I

01:21:28.189 --> 01:21:31.210
mean, I've been married to my husband for 30...

01:21:31.210 --> 01:21:34.050
When was it? 33 years. And he's never seen me

01:21:34.050 --> 01:21:37.010
pee. We don't... I mean, we just don't talk...

01:21:37.010 --> 01:21:39.789
In English, we don't talk about... I don't remember

01:21:39.789 --> 01:21:41.770
laughing. Like bodily functions. Bodily functions.

01:21:41.810 --> 01:21:45.020
No, not really. I think... Perhaps it's just

01:21:45.020 --> 01:21:47.600
me. It's just the English thing. Yeah. We scrappy

01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:51.180
Americans see it differently. I promise you,

01:21:51.180 --> 01:21:53.899
the 1776 Patriots were lighting their farts.

01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:55.579
All you've got to do is say the word fart and

01:21:55.579 --> 01:21:58.140
people laugh. I know, right? My husband does,

01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.199
because he's a pilot, so he's got some fart stories

01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:04.260
in the cockpit, which were just, yeah. Oh, you're

01:22:04.260 --> 01:22:06.600
horrible. And he always preferred it if there

01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.359
was a flight engineer, so if someone had done

01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:11.779
it, then the other person had an alibi. If there

01:22:11.779 --> 01:22:13.739
was just two of you. Well, you heard of the...

01:22:13.770 --> 01:22:18.189
touch oven here today no okay you know what my

01:22:18.189 --> 01:22:20.210
brother dan and i used to i'll wait till you're

01:22:20.210 --> 01:22:28.989
done drinking she was gonna spray that i promise

01:22:28.989 --> 01:22:33.409
happened before we used to call them air biscuits

01:22:33.409 --> 01:22:41.199
a fart an air biscuit I don't even know what

01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:43.560
that is. Oh, air biscuits. That's horrible. That's

01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:49.060
more than a fart. Okay, so a Dutch oven, a husband

01:22:49.060 --> 01:22:51.619
can do this to his wife or vice versa, is if

01:22:51.619 --> 01:22:53.399
you fart underneath, you're in bed together and

01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:55.020
you fart underneath the covers and you pull the

01:22:55.020 --> 01:22:57.399
covers over your wife's head. Oh, and you try

01:22:57.399 --> 01:23:00.800
to, oh my God. My husband. And you force her

01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:03.720
to smell it. Oh, that is awful. It's called a

01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:07.199
Dutch oven. Oh my goodness. I would smother my

01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:12.250
husband if he did that to me. So that's one thing.

01:23:12.310 --> 01:23:14.289
Now, the other thing is laughter is contagious.

01:23:14.449 --> 01:23:18.170
Because I watched a video of this. And it was

01:23:18.170 --> 01:23:21.430
actually a social experiment where this guy got

01:23:21.430 --> 01:23:24.529
on this subway. I guess it was New York or Berlin

01:23:24.529 --> 01:23:28.850
or something. It was just a subway. And he intentionally

01:23:28.850 --> 01:23:32.210
was looking at his phone. And he was an actor,

01:23:32.289 --> 01:23:36.020
right? So he just started laughing. Like he was

01:23:36.020 --> 01:23:38.220
looking at something or reading something. He

01:23:38.220 --> 01:23:42.359
started laughing so much so that eventually in

01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:46.880
a matter of just a few minutes, the entire. His

01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:50.020
whole section of the train was laughing. Wow.

01:23:50.500 --> 01:23:52.319
And that's how contagious. You and I were going

01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:54.819
to go to downtown Clermont, sit outside and

01:23:54.819 --> 01:23:57.199
have a cup of coffee and start laughing as an

01:23:57.199 --> 01:23:59.319
experiment to see that. So we should try that.

01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.100
Were you willing? That'd be cool. We'll just

01:24:01.100 --> 01:24:03.159
go to downtown Claremont, sit outside, and we've

01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:05.319
got to start laughing like monkeys for five minutes

01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:07.680
and see whether it's going to be contagious.

01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:11.539
Like a mob. Yes. A mob dancing. But it's got

01:24:11.539 --> 01:24:14.439
to sound real. Yeah. Because it couldn't just

01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:16.529
be. It could be scary. Did you ever hear the

01:24:16.529 --> 01:24:20.229
song The Laughing Policeman? So go on to, just

01:24:20.229 --> 01:24:22.710
go English song, The Laughing Policeman, if you

01:24:22.710 --> 01:24:24.710
remember to do that. It'll be on YouTube. And

01:24:24.710 --> 01:24:26.689
it was a song that came out, a one -hit wonder

01:24:26.689 --> 01:24:28.590
in the 70s about this policeman that started

01:24:28.590 --> 01:24:32.350
laughing. And you do, he just does, it just laughs

01:24:32.350 --> 01:24:34.449
all the way through. And at the end, you are

01:24:34.449 --> 01:24:36.789
deaf. It does affect your mood. The Laughing

01:24:36.789 --> 01:24:40.489
Policeman. It reminds me of this book I used

01:24:40.489 --> 01:24:42.569
to read my kids when they were young. It's a

01:24:42.569 --> 01:24:46.579
Dr. Seuss book called The Yawn. book and you

01:24:46.579 --> 01:24:48.500
literally you can't go through the book without

01:24:48.500 --> 01:24:53.199
yawning it's so it's it's just it's so subliminal

01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:56.460
but yeah so we're we're wrapping up here um jim

01:24:56.460 --> 01:24:59.079
this is uh what are your thoughts i mean do you

01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:03.500
recommend anybody else ever come as a guest don't

01:25:03.500 --> 01:25:06.600
do it no this is this has been great i mean it's

01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:10.180
been really fun you know to open up talk freely

01:25:10.180 --> 01:25:14.710
um you know no agenda no script just You know,

01:25:14.729 --> 01:25:17.869
it's, like you said, it... It's a little nerve

01:25:17.869 --> 01:25:20.729
-wracking, but everything is. But overall, it

01:25:20.729 --> 01:25:23.090
was a wonderful, wonderful experience. And I

01:25:23.090 --> 01:25:26.289
really like the fact that you and I can disagree

01:25:26.289 --> 01:25:29.130
about certain ideas, that we can talk about them.

01:25:29.149 --> 01:25:31.149
It doesn't affect how I feel about you, and I

01:25:31.149 --> 01:25:33.350
hope it doesn't, and I really like that. You

01:25:33.350 --> 01:25:35.270
don't have to think what I think, and I don't

01:25:35.270 --> 01:25:36.890
have to think what you think, and I think just

01:25:36.890 --> 01:25:39.869
exchanging ideas is really nice. So thank you

01:25:39.869 --> 01:25:41.689
for being cool about that. That's really good,

01:25:41.710 --> 01:25:43.109
and I've really enjoyed talking to you. Yeah,

01:25:43.109 --> 01:25:44.930
same here. Yeah, and I knew that when I met you.

01:25:44.970 --> 01:25:46.939
I knew this would go really well. So thank you

01:25:46.939 --> 01:25:48.239
so much. Well, hopefully you'll have me back.

01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:50.680
I don't know about that. I have to ask Desmond

01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:52.619
to give me some more questions. Yeah, new questions,

01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:55.319
please. I'm going to have Rosie take a shot.

01:25:55.420 --> 01:25:57.380
All right, let's do Rosie. Desmond's kind of

01:25:57.380 --> 01:26:00.539
like going down this weird spot. So Sarah, what

01:26:00.539 --> 01:26:02.239
are your thoughts? Should we have another guest

01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:04.880
sometime? Yeah, we can do that. I think it's

01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.479
been lovely. I've really enjoyed it. Well, I

01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:09.239
like getting, as you mentioned, differing perspectives.

01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:12.500
I think it's healthy. I think one thing that

01:26:12.500 --> 01:26:15.840
Sarah and I learned is she's this... And this

01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.500
high society British girl, she used to be a flight

01:26:18.500 --> 01:26:22.180
attendant for British Air, Concorde. I was too

01:26:22.180 --> 01:26:24.220
tall for Concorde. I was five foot nine. You

01:26:24.220 --> 01:26:25.960
had to be five foot four. Oh, really? Yeah, that

01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:29.539
sucked. No, I was on the 747. And then the scrappy

01:26:29.539 --> 01:26:31.539
Americans, right? And so we always have these

01:26:31.539 --> 01:26:34.359
conversations that are very disparate. But we

01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:36.800
always just appreciate each other. We just don't

01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:38.760
have to agree. And I think that's some of the

01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:42.359
stuff in society. You don't always have to agree

01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:44.140
on anything. Agree to disagree. Yeah, agree to

01:26:44.140 --> 01:26:45.779
disagree. And you can still be cool and still

01:26:45.779 --> 01:26:48.000
find benefit from a friendship. So that's important.

01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:51.409
Any closing thoughts? Closing thoughts? Good

01:26:51.409 --> 01:26:57.050
fart joke. I'm leaving now. I don't want to hear

01:26:57.050 --> 01:26:59.510
it. I'm British. No, I can't think of a fart

01:26:59.510 --> 01:27:03.029
joke. No, that's okay. So, Sarah, any closing

01:27:03.029 --> 01:27:06.770
thoughts? I'll end with a joke. What do you call

01:27:06.770 --> 01:27:13.130
a deer with no eyes? No idea. Right? Yeah, we

01:27:13.130 --> 01:27:15.590
went over time. I might have to cut this. That

01:27:15.590 --> 01:27:18.430
was always my... It's been around now. But the

01:27:18.430 --> 01:27:21.850
examiner, when I was training for British Airways,

01:27:21.890 --> 01:27:23.909
told me that. And I always thought that was my

01:27:23.909 --> 01:27:28.569
favorite joke. Well, my favorite bad dad joke,

01:27:28.850 --> 01:27:32.090
since we're talking about traveling, I'll use

01:27:32.090 --> 01:27:35.829
this one. What type of bus do you take to cross

01:27:35.829 --> 01:27:42.619
the ocean? Columbus. Don't laugh. You're only

01:27:42.619 --> 01:27:46.039
going to encourage me. So we're just going to

01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.979
end it with that. Bad joke. It's so bad. It's

01:27:48.979 --> 01:27:50.600
funny. Jim, I'm going to give you my favorite

01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:54.000
all -time joke. It's hilarious. You're familiar

01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.880
with knock -knock jokes, right? Yes. Knock -knock.

01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:05.210
Who's there? Interrupting cow. Moo. And my favorite

01:28:05.210 --> 01:28:07.229
knock -knock joke is, I got a great knock -knock

01:28:07.229 --> 01:28:10.029
joke. You start. No, she starts. Knock -knock.

01:28:10.109 --> 01:28:13.710
Who's there? Isabel. Isabel who? Isabel needed

01:28:13.710 --> 01:28:19.489
on a bike. She didn't just do that. She just

01:28:19.489 --> 01:28:21.989
turned your joke. I know. She totally ruined

01:28:21.989 --> 01:28:27.569
my joke. I hate knock -knock jokes, and I'm going

01:28:27.569 --> 01:28:30.289
to be a disruptor when they come up. You were

01:28:30.289 --> 01:28:33.050
a disruptor. I was. That's what's funny. She

01:28:33.050 --> 01:28:34.890
didn't even know she disrupted it. No, she did.

01:28:35.989 --> 01:28:37.989
That was perfect. Well, we want to thank you.

01:28:38.010 --> 01:28:40.569
This has been a cool episode. Jim, thanks for

01:28:40.569 --> 01:28:42.350
coming out. Thank you for having me. Ladies and

01:28:42.350 --> 01:28:44.350
gentlemen, I'll have some show notes about Jim.

01:28:44.750 --> 01:28:47.390
Jim, do they vote? I mean, who votes? Yeah, you

01:28:47.390 --> 01:28:51.270
go to... New Beginnings. It's called N as in

01:28:51.270 --> 01:28:56.630
Nancy. N as in new, B as in beginnings, CFL .org.

01:28:56.970 --> 01:28:59.670
I'll just put the link. Just send me the link.

01:28:59.710 --> 01:29:01.970
I'll put it in the show notes. If you want to

01:29:01.970 --> 01:29:05.569
vote for Jim as the preeminent dancer of Central

01:29:05.569 --> 01:29:07.970
Florida, then we can do that. I want to thank

01:29:07.970 --> 01:29:09.789
everybody for sharing our show with others. If

01:29:09.789 --> 01:29:11.850
you have any suggestions for guests we can have

01:29:11.850 --> 01:29:14.569
in the future, we should do that. Jim, thanks

01:29:14.569 --> 01:29:45.960
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