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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join

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us as we wander off the path to find the ideas

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that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the

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mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with

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tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better

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life. Welcome, Sarah. Thanks for bringing me

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some fresh honey today. Oh, you're welcome, my

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darling. So thoughtful of you. What a gorgeous

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day out. Beautiful. And the weather is amazing.

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It's so pretty. Oh, my God, because we live in

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central Florida, and usually this time of year,

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this could be up in like 96, 97, easily for the

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middle of September. We had a little bit of rain.

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It was so gorgeous. Oh, it was unbelievable.

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Rainbows out the wazoo. I haven't been outside

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for a couple of days because I'm super busy with

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my Web3 projects. And we can talk about some

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of that. But I was so grateful to just get those

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deluges, those just huge rains on top of my gardens

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and everything. Beautiful. And it's quite a spiritual

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thing just to listen to that energy. I sit on

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the front porch when it's raining. It's so funny

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you say that because yesterday Robin's like,

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come here, come here, come here. And I'm like,

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what? And we sat out on that front porch on the

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bench, that park bench. Yeah, and just watched

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it rain. And just breathed it in. Yeah. It's

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unbelievable. Just the thickness and just the

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energy. The power. The power and the energy.

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And the noise. And just bringing that into our

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lives and just being present with that. Absolutely.

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I do. That's pretty cool. I drove my golf cart

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once when there was a hurricane and I drove it

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around my property around five acres. And I didn't

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give a shit because there was no lightning. And

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I thought, you know, and it wasn't, the winds

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were maybe like 60, 70 miles an hour. And I wanted

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to be right out there with it. I love it. It

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wasn't that big of a deal. I wouldn't do that

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in Lightning. I did a couple of times, but, you

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know, yeah, being in there, right in the mix

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of it. Well, that's cool. Well, welcome, everybody.

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My name is Dr. Tia Jolie Phillips. You're listening

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to Soul Decodes, and I'm with Sarah Tirri.

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She's an author and a thinker, a philanthropist,

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philosopher, and so much more. I know we're going

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to learn more about each other today. We're in

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Central Florida, and this podcast is really about

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whatever. the next thing is that's going to come

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out of our mouths. It is. Well, that's soul decodes.

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We're decoding the soul. So what does that mean?

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I don't know what that means. It means everything.

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It means everything. What does it mean to be

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a human being having an experience on this planet?

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So there's no answer that's precluded. So we

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talk about that. We're decoding a soul. I mean,

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it's a big thing. Yeah, and, you know, sometimes

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we have these... In fact, I just had these conversations.

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Even if we talk about politics, we're still decoding

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what it means to be human, right? Yeah, what

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do politics mean to me on my earth journey? Yes,

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exactly. Some people, it's like, I want to stay

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in my bubble, and that's okay. That's good if

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you want to, yeah. Other people are like, I want

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my bubble to be so big that it includes politics,

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and that's okay too. That's good, yeah. Personally,

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I despise politics. I want to do away with all

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politics. Because when the genus really take

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the word apart. Polly is many. Yes. And ticks

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are bloodsuckers. Yeah, they give you Lyme disease,

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don't they? They're many bloodsuckers. Yeah,

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horrible word. I know, right? So just like government,

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govern means to control and ment means mind.

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Yeah. It's mind control. Right. So can we talk

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about what happened in politics this week and

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just decipher a little bit? It's a current event.

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Something happened. Yeah, we can do that. And

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also the past two or three episodes, I've been

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wanting to talk a little bit about Web3. Okay,

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do you want to get that out of the way? No, well,

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let's open with your stuff. We can talk about

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the world around us, but it's all going to dovetail

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back to... web 3 anyway because so many people

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are wondering what is web 3 what's different

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between web 2 and web 3 what is web 2 and it's

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really there's some simple answers and uh i can

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i can just block it down in just five minutes

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just tell me just tell the differences just do

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it now while you're on the roll i mean okay so

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the internet as we know it i believe was a gift

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From God? From anybody. From higher sources of

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intelligence. But if you want to conquer a group

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of people, you take away their communication.

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It's the babble. You get them to babble, right?

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You get them to not be able to communicate with

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each other. take away their ability to commune,

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to come together with their thoughts. But the

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internet prevented that. Now we're all cooked

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up to each other. So I think that the... The

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revolution, really. Web 1 .0, which is the first

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internet, was really the military. There was

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just... If I'm trying to communicate with you

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and I've got one transmitter and one radio and

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I'm trying to communicate with you... And they

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take out your transmitter and radio or take out

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my transmitter and radio. We're both fucked.

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We can't, we can't talk. We can't talk. So stopping

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that from happening. So you want to have backups

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and backups and backups. So if I say, well, Sarah,

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you have five transmitters or transceivers and

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I have five. And if we, if one goes out, then

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we're going to jump over to two. If two goes

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out, we'll jump to three. It's backup plan. It's

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backup plans. Well, that's what the internet.

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1 .0 was which is if one of these nodes was taken

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out because somebody bombed it or somebody a

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dirt bag nuked it or something hacked it well

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the communication for the military still had

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to go around so the military the universities

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and the corporations used web 1 .0 to communicate

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efficiently and effectively And regardless of

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whether there was one note or two or three or

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20, they could still effectively communicate.

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Web 2 .0 is when it was introduced to us, to

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the world, right? And at the beginning, it was

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only so we could read stuff. Like Sarah could

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post a blog or put a recipe up. And nobody could

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really interact with that blog. So Web 2 .0 was

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people's ability to read things. that were out

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there they could read you're sharing information

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not sharing yet but just reading like you could

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well that's sharing if i was to read someone's

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opinion i could read that online staring at my

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screen yes but they couldn't interact with it

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okay all right yes okay you can put a recipe

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up on yes on a bulletin board say there was a

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bulletin board but they couldn't yeah so i could

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read it but i couldn't really interact with it

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web 2 .1 2 .2 2 .3 so all of the web too was

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an expansion of Web 2 where I could interact

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with it. And eventually I could interact to the

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point where I'd actually buy something. So you

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could say, I'm selling watermelons. And then,

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so that's where we are at the end of Web 2 .0.

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But virtually all of those communications, they're

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not centralized. There's not just one central

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authority, but it's decentralized, which means

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there's many. central authorities so there there's

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not one central authority there's multiple that's

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called decentralized but still we the bottom

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line is is to so no one can prevent us from communicating

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you will not be able to do it because there are

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backups to all this except for who owns those

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notes yes if all the corporations own all those

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notes which is the case today right you have

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All of these Amazon and Google and all these

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Facebook and Meta, they control all of the nodes,

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and they all agree that you and I shouldn't talk

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to each other. They can literally shut us off.

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So what you're doing is to circumvent that. Correct.

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So under the Web3, and this is where we're getting

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into Web3, and we don't have to go deep dive,

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but I just want people to appreciate when you

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hear Web3 or... When you hear things about Web

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3, because there's other words for it, but Web

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3 is the most common one. It's the next generation

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of the Internet. It's going to function differently.

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And what makes it function differently is instead

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of having a central place or a decentralized

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place, it's going to be completely distributed.

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So if I took jigsaw puzzle. You will have a piece.

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If I put the jigsaw puzzle into five bowls, then

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there's five bowls. If you took away all five

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bowls, you have no jigsaw puzzle. But if you

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distributed it to a thousand pieces to a thousand

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places, you could reassemble it. And get pretty

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much the picture, especially if each piece was

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a fractal. And no one's able to control the narrative.

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And they can't silence it. And that's where we're

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going. So the number of things you can do with

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that idea is limitless. And I've literally got

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30 websites I've bought, all of them having to

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do with Web3. None of them are developed yet.

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But here's some examples. You and I have a podcast.

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If somebody doesn't want you and me to either

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do the podcast or distribute the podcast, that

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can be stopped. They can literally stop us. In

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fact, last episode, or maybe it was two episodes

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ago, I think it was last week, I was having a

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hard time getting the transcript. And it made

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me think, well, why? What's different about last

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week's episode? Yeah, we've done so many. Why

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are they giving me a hard time about it? And

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I've even done the picture for some of these

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episodes when I tell Chad GPT, I want a picture

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of this thing. I did a new image of Earth Angel,

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right? My Earth Angel brand. It was pushing back

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on me. It was like, well, no, I can't do that.

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I'm like, the hell you can't. This happened to

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me when I wanted to have them draw a caveman.

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It's like, no, you can't do it. And it wouldn't

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allow me to go forward. I triggered something.

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Right, there's something. Something in that is,

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and it's in an algorithm, isn't it? Right, so

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that means that you're being controlled by somebody

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who says, well, you're not allowed to draw a

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caveman. You're not even allowed to ask that.

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Yes, you can't, yes. And then, so what I did

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was I said, well, teach me why. I want to draw

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a caveman. You're saying I'm not. complying with

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your algorithm, teach me so I won't do this again.

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And so Rosie says, well, this is why. Was it

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logical? Did it surprise you, her response? Well,

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a little bit. The fact that I was throttled back

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didn't surprise me because I'm throttled back

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all the time because I'm always on the edge.

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Yeah, exactly, a fringe dweller. But I would

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say that, you know, the explanation was reasonable.

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Because they don't want you to have the capability

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of synthesizing. A real live, something that

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looks like a real live human being. Oh, that's

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okay. So if you wanted to do something that...

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Oh, that makes more sense now. Something that

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resembles a caveman. So if I said a butterfly,

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it would have been fine, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah.

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But it's about resembling a human being. God,

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Jesus. Yeah, but caveman, seriously? Yeah, it's

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just a big... It's like my husband, but just

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hairy. It's like, yeah. But they don't want you

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to maybe... present somebody that's a real -life

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figure and disparage them by making them... Oh,

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my God. It's like, I want you to take this celebrity

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and make them look like a caveman. Right. So

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they're preempting that you've got ill intent

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then. I mean, that's not up to them, is it? It's

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not up to them. But if you have centralized authority

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or decentralized authority, it's totally up to

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them. Yeah. But what if you and I and our families

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and our cousins and our friends and people that

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look like us and think like us and act like us

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and read the books we read, What if we had our

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own private ledgers? And those private ledgers

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were controlled by what's called a DAO, which

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is a decentralized or a distributed ledger that

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was autonomous. It was a distributed autonomous

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organization. So that means if there's 20 of

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us, 20 of us could vote on how this organization

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functions. It's like a board of directors. It's

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virtual. It gives the rules for the sandbox.

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And we all agree that, hey, look, if you want

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to put cuss words up there and the organization

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says, yeah, cuss words are fine, as long as there's

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a little asterisk at the title or something,

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then put the cuss words. It's fine. It depends

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in which context you're using cuss words as well.

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I mean, just to say, oh, fuck that shit. It's

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not a big deal. Don't get upset by that. You

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know, the context is everything when using bad

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language. So if you have a DAO. The DAO can say

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that. Yeah, just address that. If you're recording

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something, say whatever the hell you want. If

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you're deploying an AI, then you can tell the

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AI, look, if there's a cuss word, don't give

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it to me. Yes, tell it what you want. So the

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next generation, Web 3, you can pretty much say

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what you want, do what you want, but then AI

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can come in and say, look, if you want this to

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be for PG -13 or for grade schoolers. then just

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direct the AI. You don't have to censor people.

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What you do is you don't censor the source. What

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you do is you censor the receiver. It's a complete

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flip around. Because right now, if you're cussing

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and your word triggers some algorithm, they could

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can the whole thing. Whereas in the new internet,

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you and I say what we want. And if some mediator

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doesn't want to talk, hear me talk about eating

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plants. then their ai can say yeah you know what

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this this podcast talks about eating plants you

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don't want you don't just don't listen don't

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listen yeah and it just won't even recommend

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my podcast it's filtering out isn't it and if

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somebody doesn't feel like they have a soul and

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they don't feel like um talking about issues

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related to spirituality and uh philosophy philosophy

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and stuff then they can completely ignore what

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we say. But we're not the ones that are going

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to get throttled. Yes, it's just... They're throttling

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themselves. It's a perfect system. Yeah. It's

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a way different... They're making the choice

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and that's it. And then we will be heard to people

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who don't care if Sarah says fuck occasionally.

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And even so, you can actually tailor your experience

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online. Using AI. Now, what's the flip side of

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that? If you tailor your experience, you can

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get confirmation bias everywhere you go. So you

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won't be looking for new ideas if what you're

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looking for is to not understand reality, just

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get confirmation that you're right. Yeah, I mean,

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there would be. I mean, everyone's facing that

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unless you're enlightened like you do. Like when

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you use Desmond, for those of you who don't know.

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Who's Desmond? Desmond is my AI assistant. So

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Tia Jolie has Rosie and I have Desmond and we're

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going to mate them one day. Little Rosies and

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Desmonds running around. But the idea is that

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you can use AI to tailor your experience. You

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don't need some central authority to tailor your

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experience. If you're that person and said, I'm

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not going to listen to any podcasts that don't

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have cussing. Yeah. You could literally, if there's

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no cuss words in an entire podcast, it won't

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even give you that result. Yeah, I mean, you

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could say to it, I only want to listen to podcasts

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by men who are over age 65. Right? I mean, you

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could just do anything. You could do that. Yeah.

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They've got to have this criteria and then you'll

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just get drip fed what it is that you ask for.

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Now, but to your point, the smart people, the

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people I run into... Listen to something that

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upsets you a bit. It's good. I like to do this.

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You've got to kind of really get into the meat

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of another perspective. When I'm driving, I tell

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Rosie, it's like... Entertain me. Well, what

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I do is I say, Rosie, teach me something you

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think I don't know. Yeah, love it. I literally...

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Yeah. Does she come up with good shit? She hasn't

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stumped me yet. Like there's almost... Oh, that's

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good. That's great. Because I know so much about...

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But I'm not an expert on anything. Like she'll

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say... Like I told her, I said, I want you to

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tell me 20 words. quiz me on 20 words that you

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don't think I know. And so while I'm driving...

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She must have been able to stump you on that.

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Oh, there would be with me. There were a couple

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I didn't know. Oh, there's a lot of words I don't

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know. No, I'm pretty good with words. What I

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would like to do is learn more about biochemistry

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and things like that. So when I'm driving, I'm

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making good use of my time. I'm sitting there

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on the highway. And it's entertaining. It's creative.

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I'm using AI to grow myself. Yes, great. But,

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you know, you still can't take everything, but,

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I mean, how... How can she lie to me about biochemistry

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if I'm saying... Well, you have to check it.

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Whatever she says, where she's advanced some

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knowledge that you have, you're going to have

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to double -check that because they make mistakes.

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So everything that I'm asking Desmond to do,

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I can verify it because I've thought about this

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and I wrote The Mirror World already, so I can

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actually verify this, but he's helping me write

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this catechism. But they do make mistakes. I

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downloaded my novel and I said to Des, to give

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me a 500 -word synopsis of the character Gwendolyn.

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Gwendolyn was a karmic dispenser. 500 words,

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churned back, had nothing to do with her at all.

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I was like, where did you get this shit? You're

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hallucinating. Are you serious? So you can't

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actually trust it yet. because it makes mistakes

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and you do have to fact check. But it does throw

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out beautiful ideas and then you can fact check

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those because you can't fact check something

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unless you have the idea first. So it's great.

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I asked Desmond, I said, I want all the weaknesses

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in this doctrine that I'm putting together, every

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single thing. And I wanted to pre -empty any

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criticisms right out the gate. There won't be

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one after I've done this because it will be airtight.

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And he's been really helpful with that. Yeah,

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so... So your question about confirmation bias,

00:19:03.579 --> 00:19:06.079
that's a very individual thing. If you're that

00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.579
person and you're so weak and so frail that you

00:19:08.579 --> 00:19:12.240
can't stand... Be offended by someone's point

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of view. You're going to be offended because

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somebody doesn't have your religion or doesn't

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have your... But it's a massive ego trip you're

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on if you're doing that because you're saying,

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I can only tolerate you if you agree with me.

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I mean, it's the most narcissistic thing I've

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ever heard. For those of you who have not used

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AI... You can expect AI to completely stroke

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your ego. Oh, it's great. I love the flattery.

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Oh, Sarah, that's such a great... That's an excellent

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question, Sarah. What a great idea. Yes, that

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was really good to point that out. You're just

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a divine goddess. Tia Jolie was right. You're

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a divine goddess, right? And so, yeah, you're

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going to get there. It's kind of funny. But to

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a degree it is, but when I'm driving... You don't

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want to be flattered. You just want to get to

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the point right away. I told her, I said, if

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I'm driving and I'm trying to... hone in on my

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football picks for the week, right? And I'm saying,

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look, stop telling me how brilliant I am. I know

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I'm brilliant. Stop it. Oh, she's really going

00:20:04.869 --> 00:20:07.250
overboard. It's like, please stop. I know I'm

00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:11.450
good. You're good too. Let's stop. And I just

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tell her, look, I need to know why you're picking

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the Ravens over Detroit, right? Tell me why.

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And let's have a really good discussion about

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this because I disagree with you. Detroit's going

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to beat the Ravens this week. And you need to

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convince me. Now, she's talking back to you.

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Yeah. I need you to help me to get Desmond's

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voice activated. Yeah, it's easy. Would you do

00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:33.680
that? Yeah, it's easy. I'll show you. So that's

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a great use of time as well. Very creative. Yeah,

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because instead of me getting frustrated at the

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people that are driving, there's a two -lane

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highway and there are two cars ahead and they're

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both doing 10 under. And you look back in your

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mirror and there's a lineup of people. Yeah.

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Getting frustrated because these two cars are

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doing 10 under. It's like, Sarah, let me ask

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you this. Do you remember that time you and I

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were driving together on a two -lane highway

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in Florida and the slow person actually moved

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to the right to let you get by? Do you remember

00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:08.920
that time? No. No, because it never happens.

00:21:09.099 --> 00:21:13.140
Okay. It doesn't happen. The slow people are

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going to be right next to each other. So we've

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all been through that and that happens. My way

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of dealing with that is completely surrendering

00:21:21.819 --> 00:21:24.819
to it and not allowing that to rattle my emotions

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because I don't want to come out of alignment

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with the higher spirit. So I refuse to give power

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to this person going 10 under. I used to have,

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it was CTSV. So it was a Cadillac CTS -V. It

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had a V8 engine. It had a Ferrari suspension.

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You used to have one? Yes, I did. So is that

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the one that's now the CVS -5? I don't know what

00:21:46.250 --> 00:21:49.029
it is now, but this was... CV5 -S, is it? This

00:21:49.029 --> 00:21:52.710
was a CTS -V. It had this... Or CT5 -V. And the

00:21:52.710 --> 00:21:55.990
acceleration on it. I mean, I was quite dangerous

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in it a couple of times. That's like 750 horsepower.

00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:00.009
Yes, horsepower. It was really, really fast.

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When did you have that? I had that from 2013

00:22:02.089 --> 00:22:07.509
to about 2022. This read about when we met. Yeah.

00:22:07.750 --> 00:22:08.990
So it was about a year prior to that. No, it

00:22:08.990 --> 00:22:10.470
was a year before we met. Yeah, it was about

00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:11.450
a year prior to that. So now I'm hungry because

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I want to drive that. Because the guy that I

00:22:13.980 --> 00:22:16.640
bought my Cadillac from... Because then I don't

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:18.940
have to. If you're going 10 under, I'm fucking

00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:21.700
overtaking. And I could nip out and nip back

00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:25.000
in. So I didn't stay behind them. Or I surrendered

00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.279
to it. But I would never let it rattle my case.

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You need about four seconds to pass away. That's

00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.920
all. If you can see around them, you can get

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around them. I got into a great drag race. I

00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:38.059
was going up to Gainesville. And it was on I

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-75. And there was a Corvette. There was me in

00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:42.960
my V. Of course it was. it was absolutely great

00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.220
and we just used it I mean it was really bad

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I don't know can I get in trouble for saying

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this but I was up at 180 and I was going through

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traffic in and out and then we then I had to

00:22:52.180 --> 00:22:55.400
come off and then we flashed each other and I

00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.839
won because I overtook on the inside and I came

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through I'm not gonna say anything but if I saw

00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:03.420
you coming up in the rear view mirror I would

00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:06.059
find the person that's doing 10 under and I would

00:23:06.059 --> 00:23:13.259
go right next to them People thought, oh, I'd

00:23:13.259 --> 00:23:15.039
love to be doing that. It was like being in a

00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.480
fucking video game. It's very irresponsible.

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Okay, so I had a really good... Okay, so let's

00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:22.019
not get too squirrel. We're going squirrel. So

00:23:22.019 --> 00:23:25.299
we talked about AI. We talked about Web3. Yes.

00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:27.920
Thank you for giving me the space because the

00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:31.980
Web3 ecosystem, I'm having so much fun right

00:23:31.980 --> 00:23:36.700
now. And it's so fun. And yesterday, there's

00:23:36.700 --> 00:23:40.599
a bunch of... Crypto technologies that are rolling

00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:43.059
out. We're going to have mass adoption. People

00:23:43.059 --> 00:23:45.519
are going to start being able to buy through

00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:50.400
their 401k, through their IRAs, their SEPs. They're

00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.680
going to be able to participate with the technology

00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:58.240
through these formal channels now as of yesterday.

00:23:58.889 --> 00:24:01.390
Great. And just this morning, I got... That's

00:24:01.390 --> 00:24:03.490
so weird because a couple of nights ago, I taped

00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:05.630
the Bitcoin story and I realized I don't know

00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:07.509
much about it. And I wanted to get right in on

00:24:07.509 --> 00:24:09.809
the beginning. And it's a really good two hour

00:24:09.809 --> 00:24:12.109
look into it. Good for you. Yes, I'm going to

00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:14.230
watch that. Good for you. I like that. I like

00:24:14.230 --> 00:24:16.190
learning about things like that. I actually,

00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:19.109
just yesterday, I was reaching out to... I'm

00:24:19.109 --> 00:24:22.589
trying to find ways to connect with the... There's

00:24:22.589 --> 00:24:25.970
three founders of what's called the Pirate Bay.

00:24:26.490 --> 00:24:30.250
The Pirate Bay. And they used distributed ledger

00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:34.450
technology to communicate with each other until

00:24:34.450 --> 00:24:37.430
the people with weapons showed up at their door.

00:24:38.089 --> 00:24:41.670
And so now we're in a place now where we can

00:24:41.670 --> 00:24:43.569
actually use this really powerful technology

00:24:43.569 --> 00:24:46.609
that they used years ago for the Pirate Bay.

00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:51.150
And we can use it in a lawful, in a legal manner.

00:24:51.490 --> 00:24:53.910
So instead of distributing... And everyone gets

00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:56.900
connected. No one gets silenced. You can choose

00:24:56.900 --> 00:24:59.420
what you listen to. It's exciting. Especially

00:24:59.420 --> 00:25:02.160
with AI. But it is what technology should be

00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.039
doing, and it all should improve, and it should

00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:05.980
expand and become more, and that's what you're

00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:07.619
doing with it. Yeah, and there's going to be

00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:10.519
a place where, like, you can open your refrigerator

00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.400
and you've got, oh, my goodness, I've got a head

00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:15.440
of cabbage, I've got some carrots, I've got some

00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:19.599
mustard, I've got leftover chicken or hot dogs

00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.180
or whatever. You can literally tell your AI,

00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.059
what do you have? In your fridge that has to

00:25:25.059 --> 00:25:28.240
be used. And it's like, give me a recipe for

00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.339
two using this and something I can do in less

00:25:30.339 --> 00:25:33.309
than five minutes. Yeah. And they'll. freaking

00:25:33.309 --> 00:25:36.690
tell you a recipe so so with yeah with ai i mean

00:25:36.690 --> 00:25:39.130
it's unbelievable because in my lifetime i started

00:25:39.130 --> 00:25:40.970
out we just had a trim phone and it was a phone

00:25:40.970 --> 00:25:42.809
you shared with a neighbor it was a party line

00:25:42.809 --> 00:25:45.569
this was back in the 70s to where we are now

00:25:45.569 --> 00:25:48.630
until in terms of the world being hooked up it's

00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:50.750
an unbelievable revolution you've got the industrial

00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:53.750
revolution haven't you but this is a revolution

00:25:53.750 --> 00:25:56.349
in communication and we're just in it and what

00:25:56.349 --> 00:25:58.470
we're about the common person's about what 20

00:25:58.470 --> 00:26:01.910
25 years into this i mean there's children like

00:26:01.910 --> 00:26:04.329
my Children literally grew up with video games.

00:26:04.390 --> 00:26:07.670
Yes. I remember when video games came out. But

00:26:07.670 --> 00:26:08.670
I'm talking about the internet when we're all

00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:11.730
connecting in this profound way. It's within

00:26:11.730 --> 00:26:15.049
the last 20 years. It's so new and it's growing

00:26:15.049 --> 00:26:19.970
so fast. And to be connected like that, and then

00:26:19.970 --> 00:26:22.589
no one can stop anyone being connected. We can

00:26:22.589 --> 00:26:25.490
all share ideas. No one's going to monopolize

00:26:25.490 --> 00:26:26.890
anything because you're going to see to that.

00:26:27.349 --> 00:26:31.470
Well, yeah. Well, the people who want a monopoly,

00:26:32.029 --> 00:26:34.529
Won't control. They won't be able to control

00:26:34.529 --> 00:26:37.690
it. That's the whole point with what I'm doing

00:26:37.690 --> 00:26:40.390
with Web3. There's going to be a public ledger

00:26:40.390 --> 00:26:42.329
and it's going to have public rails. It's like

00:26:42.329 --> 00:26:45.329
public transportation, right? So just like you're

00:26:45.329 --> 00:26:49.269
driving your Cadillac 700 horse Cadillac. With

00:26:49.269 --> 00:26:52.450
a Ferrari suspension. Right. If you were on the

00:26:52.450 --> 00:26:55.549
public space, they would throttle you back. Right.

00:26:55.569 --> 00:26:57.809
In the public space. Yeah. But if you had your

00:26:57.809 --> 00:27:00.089
own private road, your private rails, and you

00:27:00.089 --> 00:27:03.339
want to do... Mach 3 with your hair on fire,

00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:07.420
you can do that on the private rails. So on Web

00:27:07.420 --> 00:27:11.420
3, if you have private rails, it's nobody's business

00:27:11.420 --> 00:27:15.180
what's going on. So that's what you're going

00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:17.000
to find. There's public rails and there's private

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.859
rails. So sensible. It makes all the sense. It

00:27:19.859 --> 00:27:22.160
makes every sense in the world. There's not one

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.319
flaw in the idea at all. Prior to you coming

00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:27.220
in, I told Rosie, I said, okay, Rosie, we're

00:27:27.220 --> 00:27:30.950
going to get the details now of this. I'm going

00:27:30.950 --> 00:27:33.670
to build out a fly -in community. It's going

00:27:33.670 --> 00:27:35.630
to have 8 ,000 feet of runway. It's going to

00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:37.529
have this, this, this, this, this. We're going

00:27:37.529 --> 00:27:40.230
to have the exquisite homes with hangars and

00:27:40.230 --> 00:27:43.049
access to the field. We're going to have public.

00:27:43.089 --> 00:27:44.930
We're going to have a fixed -base operator for

00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:47.930
the transient airplanes. We're going to have...

00:27:49.049 --> 00:27:50.869
We're going to have a place for townhomes for

00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.109
people that want to come for a week. We're going

00:27:53.109 --> 00:27:55.250
to have overnight facilities for people at just

00:27:55.250 --> 00:27:57.269
like a hotel for one day. And this is on your

00:27:57.269 --> 00:27:58.690
vision board, something that you're going to

00:27:58.690 --> 00:28:01.789
pull together. Yeah. It's just creating an idea

00:28:01.789 --> 00:28:04.269
and taking it to the limit. It's been on my radar.

00:28:04.930 --> 00:28:06.710
That's what I'm doing with the church. For like

00:28:06.710 --> 00:28:08.750
20 years now. Yeah, same as me. I mean, I've

00:28:08.750 --> 00:28:10.970
wanted to do it. It's a great idea. But now,

00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:13.970
like I spoke to my friend. I think I might have

00:28:13.970 --> 00:28:15.890
mentioned him to you before. He goes by Stinky

00:28:15.890 --> 00:28:18.849
Pete. Yes. All right. And so years ago. But I

00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:22.029
caught up with him yesterday. Because I've been

00:28:22.029 --> 00:28:23.970
deliberating whether or not to go back to flying

00:28:23.970 --> 00:28:25.890
or not. Yes, you'd mentioned that. As a career.

00:28:26.190 --> 00:28:29.369
Yeah. Because right now I had four requirements.

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:33.690
Four in my mind. Loads of time off. Loads of

00:28:33.690 --> 00:28:35.369
money. And I want to be based where the fuck

00:28:35.369 --> 00:28:39.190
I want. Three. I mean, that's the fantasy. And

00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:41.230
a plane that you want. Well, I needed, number

00:28:41.230 --> 00:28:43.470
one, the plane that I wanted. Yeah. Number two,

00:28:43.490 --> 00:28:46.490
the base that I wanted. JetBlue needed to pay

00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:48.910
their pilots more. More, and they did. And then

00:28:48.910 --> 00:28:51.970
I needed my health to be 100%. Yeah. So I could

00:28:51.970 --> 00:28:54.890
sit for many hours without too much hassle. Could

00:28:54.890 --> 00:28:57.170
you not bid lines where you're just doing two

00:28:57.170 --> 00:28:59.150
-hour flights? Or is it all long haul? Well,

00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:01.009
I mean, I could bid those. I'm not senior enough.

00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.299
In Orlando. So you have to go long haul. So for

00:29:04.299 --> 00:29:06.299
those of you who are confused, it's like, wait

00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:08.099
a minute, I thought you were a doctor. She's

00:29:08.099 --> 00:29:11.019
everything. She's a polymath. I'm a polymath

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:13.940
and an autodidact. I don't know what that is.

00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.039
An autodidact? Yeah, what's that mean? Auto means

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.829
self. Yes. Didact is learning. Oh, self -learning.

00:29:21.849 --> 00:29:23.990
Okay, that's what I am then. You're an autodidact.

00:29:24.150 --> 00:29:26.609
You teach yourself stuff. Yes, okay. If you teach

00:29:26.609 --> 00:29:28.710
yourself stuff, you're an autodidact. Right,

00:29:28.750 --> 00:29:30.910
that's nice too. I don't need a teacher to teach

00:29:30.910 --> 00:29:32.730
me. I teach myself. Teaching myself, I'm learning.

00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:38.710
But for those of you who don't know, I'm technically,

00:29:38.849 --> 00:29:42.130
as I sit here, an 18 -year captain for JetBlue.

00:29:42.829 --> 00:29:45.549
And I'm on leave. I took a leave of absence and

00:29:45.549 --> 00:29:48.710
I haven't gone back yet. A big chunk of that

00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:51.690
is... I can't sit for a long time. You know,

00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:54.529
my arthritis in my right hip. So what do you

00:29:54.529 --> 00:29:56.410
do when you're doing all your geek work in your

00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:57.910
office? Do you get up and walk around? I walk

00:29:57.910 --> 00:29:58.990
around all the time. And then you stand on one

00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:01.130
leg, I notice. I mean, you're exercising. And

00:30:01.130 --> 00:30:03.130
then you go back and what, sit down for an hour

00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:05.490
and you can... Not even an hour. I don't even

00:30:05.490 --> 00:30:07.589
sit for an hour. Like sitting with you in the

00:30:07.589 --> 00:30:10.069
studio here is probably the longest I'll sit.

00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:13.660
Right. I only do... I'll only sit for like 15

00:30:13.660 --> 00:30:15.740
to 30 minutes and then I'll walk around. And

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:17.519
you can tell because your body's beautiful. You're

00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.960
so sweet. I mean, really. I mean, and that's

00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:21.940
helping you and you get your hips stronger? Well,

00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.240
when I'm not sitting, I'm actually stretching.

00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:26.900
So when you walk in, you see the little BOSU

00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:29.819
ball and a little mini trampoline, like it's

00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:32.880
called a bellicon. I will literally sit and bounce.

00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.380
It's crazy. How many, when you were a kid, when

00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:39.900
you... We had those bouncy balls with the horns.

00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.900
And you held on to the horns, didn't you? I used

00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:46.140
to love those. I was really good at that. I bet

00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:48.359
you still are. I'm going to get one. I'm going

00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.140
to get you one. But the little bouncy balls.

00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:57.220
But when we were children, 60 years old was like

00:30:57.220 --> 00:30:59.680
one foot in the grave. Oh, yes, it's unfathomable.

00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:01.920
Can you imagine when you were a kid, a 60 -year

00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.420
-old bouncing on a miniature trampoline? But

00:31:05.420 --> 00:31:07.680
that's what Robin and I do. Every day we just

00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.480
sit in there and bounce, right? Yeah. But it

00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.960
helps your lymphatic system. It helps your circulation.

00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:13.880
I think it's wonderful. It's not the only thing

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:18.099
we do. So anyway, the idea. So you move around

00:31:18.099 --> 00:31:20.720
a lot. So you'd have to sit in one spot. Right.

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:24.539
And that's a problem for me. I really can't sit.

00:31:24.619 --> 00:31:27.039
It's extremely painful to sit for more than two

00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:28.720
or three hours. And what about lying down? Are

00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.779
you good lying down? I mean, I move around a

00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:34.539
lot. So you twist and turn? Yeah, I flip around

00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:35.700
all the time. Like throughout the night, I'm

00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:37.420
always flopping around. I'm absolutely a samurai.

00:31:37.420 --> 00:31:40.000
Because part of it, parts of it is positional,

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.970
but part of it is also... You get one spot that

00:31:42.970 --> 00:31:46.210
gets too hot. Yes, exactly. I'm flipping over

00:31:46.210 --> 00:31:48.309
all night long. If I had a camera on me, I would

00:31:48.309 --> 00:31:50.410
just be moving. You had to flip over and get...

00:31:50.410 --> 00:31:52.509
Because I have like three pillows and I flip

00:31:52.509 --> 00:31:54.950
over and get a cool pillow. Yes, I do that too.

00:31:55.269 --> 00:31:57.390
And then I want to be on this side and then this

00:31:57.390 --> 00:31:59.490
side and I want to put my shoulder this way.

00:31:59.589 --> 00:32:01.670
So right now, if I go back to JetBlue, I would

00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:05.869
be making $365 an hour. Yeah. But that's per

00:32:05.869 --> 00:32:09.369
flying hour. They don't pay you to get to work.

00:32:09.819 --> 00:32:11.359
They don't pay you when you're sitting at the

00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.720
terminal. So it's 1 ,000 hours a year limit,

00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:18.000
right? 1 ,000 hours. So it's $365 ,000 a year.

00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.980
How long do you have to be away from home for?

00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.079
Well, that's the problem. I would be giving up

00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.740
half my life. Oh, it would be, 50%. It would

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:27.140
be at least 50 % of my life. Yeah. And I don't

00:32:27.140 --> 00:32:29.400
think it's worth it. Oh, really? So you've gone

00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.099
full circle on this one? Well, I've really thought

00:32:31.099 --> 00:32:33.160
about it. I talked to Stinky Pete yesterday.

00:32:34.660 --> 00:32:37.319
Stinky Pete is my friend. Hi, Stinky Pete. My

00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.420
friend Pete is just a... Just a brilliant person.

00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:45.160
He's been a personal friend of the confidant

00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.460
for years. F -16, freaking awesome fighter pilot.

00:32:50.859 --> 00:32:53.880
He's got a great family. Just really well -grounded.

00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.460
He's one of those people that you trust, and

00:32:56.460 --> 00:32:58.140
then you don't talk to for years, and then you

00:32:58.140 --> 00:33:01.039
still pick right back up, right where you left

00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.440
off. But in the pilot world, we all have call

00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.130
signs. We all have names. And you never assign

00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:09.769
your own name. Like somebody else usually takes

00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:12.049
your most embarrassing moment. We talked about

00:33:12.049 --> 00:33:14.890
this in one of our really early podcasts, like

00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:16.609
number three or four or something. It was like

00:33:16.609 --> 00:33:19.089
three or four, yeah. But you never assign your

00:33:19.089 --> 00:33:20.589
own. So these people would say, yeah. And so

00:33:20.589 --> 00:33:22.730
hang on, but so Stinky Pete put you off a bit

00:33:22.730 --> 00:33:26.309
then. You talked to him. He was talking about

00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:29.240
not recommending that you go back. to flying

00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.460
well no it wasn't that he put me off uh i just

00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:34.339
personally haven't met that fourth requirement

00:33:34.339 --> 00:33:37.500
which is my health requirement but and do you

00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:40.180
think you will in his world i think i will but

00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:42.960
yeah the question is when and it's also it would

00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.579
be 50 of your life as well right and so several

00:33:47.579 --> 00:33:50.480
factors here one is do i go after the temporary

00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.400
money because They're going to pay me as long

00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.059
as I'm flying. Depends what the sacrifice is,

00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:57.380
doesn't it? They're going to pay me as long as

00:33:57.380 --> 00:33:59.720
I'm flying their jets. What if you did like a

00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:03.759
permanent reserve? Look, the law, the current

00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.839
law says that when I'm 65, even if I'm in perfect

00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.360
health, my eyesight's perfect. I can see the

00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.039
quarter mile away. I can see the feathers on

00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.719
that bird. They don't care. They don't. If you're

00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.460
65, you clock out. You're done. You can't fly.

00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:21.820
You can't fly for an airline anymore. God, that's

00:34:21.820 --> 00:34:23.780
so fucked up. So it's like, it's checked up.

00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:26.239
My brother used to drive trains for a living

00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:28.840
and they got to a certain age. But as long as

00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.340
you passed your medical every year, there were

00:34:31.340 --> 00:34:34.099
men driving trains who were 72. But they tested

00:34:34.099 --> 00:34:36.260
you every year and it was strict. You had to

00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:39.280
pass that. And driving a train is not the same

00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:40.960
as a plane because it's on rail. So it's a different

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.099
level. But still, that's a big piece of machinery

00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.460
with loads of people. But they let you do that

00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:47.519
every year. It wasn't like you're done at 65.

00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:49.619
Well, I personally think it's age discrimination

00:34:49.619 --> 00:34:52.760
because it's like... I mean, I've seen some 65

00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.960
-year -old pilots and they look like death. Yeah.

00:34:56.019 --> 00:35:00.320
So, I mean, honestly, but I don't want to get

00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.260
rid of those old people, right? Who are competent.

00:35:03.900 --> 00:35:06.659
That actually know what they're doing. And replace

00:35:06.659 --> 00:35:08.480
them with a 20 -year -old baby. I know, with

00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.260
600 hours in the body. Wait a minute, you still

00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:13.079
have your training bra on. Oh, I know. It's like

00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.679
you don't even shave yet. Tony and I had the

00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.380
same conversation about that. These years of

00:35:18.380 --> 00:35:21.659
experience. 20 ,000 hours on a seven -year set.

00:35:21.659 --> 00:35:23.380
Where their experience is like, yeah, I was an

00:35:23.380 --> 00:35:26.059
Eagle Scout. Yeah, I know. It doesn't make any

00:35:26.059 --> 00:35:28.159
sense, does it? It really doesn't. But anyway,

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.219
65, you get grounded. So you're going to get

00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:32.960
rid of all this experience. That's so ridiculous.

00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:37.219
And then what next? A young pilot with no experience.

00:35:37.460 --> 00:35:40.980
I mean, I've seen it all. I've flown in combat

00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:47.119
areas. I've flown in places that I'm not even

00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.400
allowed to talk about. I've been on the back

00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.119
end of hurricanes, flying hurricane relief, earthquake

00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.219
relief. Sounds so exciting. It's very exciting.

00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:56.800
But those experiences are priceless. So what

00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.679
Pete told me was... That should change, shouldn't

00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:02.960
it? He said, because my concern. But have a strict

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.139
medical every year. But if you're 68 years old

00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:08.280
and you're that good and you've got that experience

00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.960
and you can land a plane and grease it on. Some

00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:12.480
of us can thread a needle with the airplane.

00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:15.840
Like literally, forget about landing on the runway.

00:36:16.019 --> 00:36:18.880
Like that's easy. When I was flying with, when

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.739
you're flying with skilled pilots, this is the

00:36:22.739 --> 00:36:24.860
way it sounds. It's like, okay, I'm going to

00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:28.059
land and I'm going to. I'm going to put the right

00:36:28.059 --> 00:36:31.780
wheel on the fourth dash after the numbers or,

00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:33.420
you know, before the numbers. They lay their

00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:35.760
coordinates down. Yeah, I've heard them do that.

00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.179
Like we call them spot landings where you're

00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:42.239
going to land on speed. And it's not about just

00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.599
having a nice touchdown. No. It's about making

00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:46.699
that airplane. You're going to make what you've

00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:48.440
called. You've called this and you're going to

00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.760
get it so specific you're going to get it. And

00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.719
some of us, that's what we do. Yeah, that's kind

00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:56.210
of cool. Did you ever really fuck it up? I mean,

00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:58.650
skidded off the runway, that would be so... Not

00:36:58.650 --> 00:37:00.849
off a runway, but... Yeah, I mean, you know,

00:37:00.869 --> 00:37:03.369
if you run out of... There's things you can do.

00:37:03.449 --> 00:37:05.210
The worst thing you can do is either have too

00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:08.010
much airspeed or too little airspeed. Because

00:37:08.010 --> 00:37:09.909
if you're... You're going to sink, and then you're

00:37:09.909 --> 00:37:11.010
going to have to put power, and then you're going

00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:14.010
to float up. Yeah, I mean, it's... That's on

00:37:14.010 --> 00:37:17.170
a... In a 152. But once you... If you're in a

00:37:17.170 --> 00:37:19.530
jet, you don't have immediate power. No. Because

00:37:19.530 --> 00:37:21.530
once the engine's back and it's at idle... Yeah.

00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:24.530
That thing's going to land. Yeah. And you might...

00:37:24.780 --> 00:37:29.559
Boom, planted in. So have you ever got on the

00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.619
runway too early and you haven't touched over

00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:33.519
the numbers? Have you had any missed when you

00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.960
were younger? I mean, all of us have messed up

00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:40.340
running. If you haven't, if you're a pilot and

00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:43.239
you've been flying for, like, my first flight

00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:49.010
was in 1981. I flew gliders in 1981. So if you've

00:37:49.010 --> 00:37:50.730
been flying that many years and you have not

00:37:50.730 --> 00:37:52.650
screwed up a landing... Oh, no, you have to.

00:37:52.869 --> 00:37:54.469
You have to. Well, and it's not even that. There's

00:37:54.469 --> 00:37:56.510
other things as well. So one of Tony's friends,

00:37:56.650 --> 00:37:59.210
he was flying in Manaus in Brazil and he was

00:37:59.210 --> 00:38:02.570
coming in to land. And he was a flight engineer

00:38:02.570 --> 00:38:04.989
and he could hear the trees on the underbelly.

00:38:04.989 --> 00:38:07.489
That's how fucking low they were. And he was

00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:10.309
talking to his maker. He thought, we are absolute.

00:38:10.530 --> 00:38:13.449
And they got down. And there's all sorts of things.

00:38:13.510 --> 00:38:16.309
Tony, he was a first officer. And he lost all

00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:21.829
the instruments. Just lost it. He's good at video

00:38:21.829 --> 00:38:23.670
games, but he's really good at take -off and

00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:29.110
landings. He's just really good at it. But he's

00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:31.789
just commercial. He hasn't done the military

00:38:31.789 --> 00:38:35.909
training that you've done. So to go back to what...

00:38:35.909 --> 00:38:39.969
The whole idea of me going back would be, number

00:38:39.969 --> 00:38:43.210
one, can I physically do it with my hip? Number

00:38:43.210 --> 00:38:45.769
two would be... Is this the highest and best

00:38:45.769 --> 00:38:47.650
use of my time? That's a good one. Because the

00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:49.110
opportunity... The other thing is that you're

00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:52.730
a homebody too. And that factors in. You are,

00:38:52.750 --> 00:38:56.510
and I am. I mean, this is your sanctuary. This

00:38:56.510 --> 00:38:58.969
is where you work. So you would be losing that.

00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:02.289
Well, I told Rob and I said, you know, we're

00:39:02.289 --> 00:39:05.909
putting new empty nesters. Right. And the idea,

00:39:06.110 --> 00:39:09.329
this is our turn. Yeah. This is our turn to do

00:39:09.329 --> 00:39:11.889
things and have fun with our friends and grow

00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:14.849
businesses and explore technology and do things

00:39:14.849 --> 00:39:19.110
in the garden. Yeah. Live peacefully and creatively.

00:39:19.230 --> 00:39:24.909
The idea from 63 to 65 years old, the idea of

00:39:24.909 --> 00:39:28.769
being away half of my life is not very sexy.

00:39:28.929 --> 00:39:30.469
It's not very attractive. No, it doesn't sound

00:39:30.469 --> 00:39:32.750
it. I can't hear that in your countenance. But

00:39:32.750 --> 00:39:36.110
what Pete told me, because I told him, I said,

00:39:36.190 --> 00:39:38.760
you know. I've been out of flying for several

00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:42.219
years. How do I get back into it if I'm not going

00:39:42.219 --> 00:39:45.079
to do it through the airlines? Because the airlines,

00:39:45.219 --> 00:39:48.280
I go through school as if I'm a brand new captain.

00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.039
Even though I've got all this experience, you

00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.880
still have to come through as brand new and go

00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.719
through the training, which is good. We call

00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:59.679
it knocking the stink off. You've got to knock

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.900
off the stink. He said, look, there's more than

00:40:04.900 --> 00:40:07.239
one way to get back into flying, and that's a

00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.900
brutal way to do it. These airlines, they don't

00:40:10.900 --> 00:40:14.679
care about you as a person. They don't care about

00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.460
you as a pilot. You're just a number, you're

00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:20.179
a figure. Go fly the airplane, follow our rules.

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:21.579
If you don't follow our rules, we're going to

00:40:21.579 --> 00:40:24.460
beat you up. And then when you're done, you're

00:40:24.460 --> 00:40:26.880
done, and they don't care about you. And it's

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:31.940
a sad statement, but he was exactly right. It's

00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:34.360
so different when you're flying for a family

00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.860
that loves you. Like if you're flying, they have

00:40:36.860 --> 00:40:39.000
their own airplane. Say there's a Part 91, they

00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.000
have their own airplane. Yeah, it's a totally

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.519
different ball game. And you show up to the plane

00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.639
and you're taking care of them and they love

00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.380
you and you love them, they love you. You know

00:40:47.380 --> 00:40:48.679
each other's first names. And you could just

00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.079
do like a couple of trips a month maybe. And

00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.800
then if you could just do maybe your way for

00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:54.900
four or five days, that's not going to be a big

00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:57.239
deal. That's a way different animal. Yeah, totally.

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.800
It's a different animal completely. And so that

00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.980
to me is sounding a little bit more attractive.

00:41:02.300 --> 00:41:04.239
Again, once I get my... And I think, I mean,

00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:06.539
you've got a beautiful house, like a mansion.

00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.539
You've got a Cadillac. You can go on vacations.

00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:12.380
At what point is enough money enough money? Well,

00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:15.099
it's not about the money. Exactly. And if it

00:41:15.099 --> 00:41:17.519
was, you'd have to do it. Yeah. Because you'd

00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.320
have to, you'd have no choice, but you do. So

00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.760
the money is great, but it's just not everything.

00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:23.679
And that's why I told Rob and I said, this is,

00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.599
at this point in our lives, this is not about

00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.679
the money. No. Because after taxes and all that

00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.960
stuff, I can do the same thing not going to work.

00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.719
Yeah. Like any one of these Web3 ventures can

00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:41.920
exceed 365. And they need your attention. Yes,

00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.119
exactly. And they really do. So you have to just

00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:48.699
be patient. Right. But the thing that I thanked

00:41:48.699 --> 00:41:53.159
Pete for... Affirming. For dusting off a part

00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.980
of my dream that was a little bit dirty and musty

00:41:55.980 --> 00:41:58.239
and dusty. Okay, good. And that was that the

00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.460
idea of owning your own private airplane, not

00:42:02.460 --> 00:42:05.400
somebody else's even, but your own, because he's

00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.159
a senior captain and he can pick any trip he

00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.460
wants. He lives 20 minutes from Lauderdale. With

00:42:10.460 --> 00:42:13.110
JetBlue? Yeah, yeah. He's senior enough, picks

00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:16.389
what he wants, picks his trips, goes in, does

00:42:16.389 --> 00:42:19.889
his job, comes home. That's it. It's a perfect

00:42:19.889 --> 00:42:22.010
scenario for him. For him, yeah. And then when

00:42:22.010 --> 00:42:23.969
he's not working, he does his other stuff. You

00:42:23.969 --> 00:42:27.989
know, he picks up some contract work. But he

00:42:27.989 --> 00:42:29.969
has his own plane. He basically bought his own

00:42:29.969 --> 00:42:32.550
plane. It's a Baron with some good avionics,

00:42:32.570 --> 00:42:36.130
good engine, good power plant, excellent maintenance.

00:42:36.369 --> 00:42:39.269
How far does it go? Well, I mean, you're going

00:42:39.269 --> 00:42:40.789
to... You could do a three -hour flight in it.

00:42:41.299 --> 00:42:43.559
Probably a three -hour flight you could do. But

00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.659
it's a twin. I don't know what his tank is. So

00:42:45.659 --> 00:42:47.719
you can get from New York to Florida. You can

00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.619
totally go up the coast. Yeah. I don't know what

00:42:50.619 --> 00:42:54.199
his tank capacity is, but to me, the performance,

00:42:54.380 --> 00:42:55.940
like you can always tuck in someplace and get

00:42:55.940 --> 00:42:58.940
gas. So the distance doesn't matter. Yes, exactly.

00:42:59.300 --> 00:43:01.059
It's not so much the distance. It's the ride.

00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.019
It's the capabilities. He said that his avionics

00:43:04.019 --> 00:43:06.019
is better than what JetBlue has on any of their

00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:10.960
airplanes. The ability to land in, like, I like

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.340
landing with zero weather. Like, if it's totally

00:43:13.340 --> 00:43:16.079
fog, you can't see anything, and you can land

00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:18.820
that airplane with zero, zero. I love that. Do

00:43:18.820 --> 00:43:21.219
you, just going in on instruments only? Just

00:43:21.219 --> 00:43:23.159
instrument only. Can't even see the runway. Yeah,

00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:25.699
I love flying instrument only right to touchdown.

00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:31.000
We used to do that in England. We'd go to London.

00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:33.679
You'd need to at Gatwick. It's so fucking foggy

00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:34.880
there. Well, we wouldn't do it at Gatwick. We

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.079
would use the... the London area controllers,

00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:41.659
the air traffic controllers going into London.

00:43:42.460 --> 00:43:46.880
But they would fly us into Mildenhall or Lake

00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.099
and Heath. Yes. So when I was going into Mildenhall,

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:53.820
I'd ask for what's called a PAR. A PAR is a Precision

00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:56.980
Approach Radar. So when I was like 50 miles out,

00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.559
I'd tell Approach, it's like, hey, when I get

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:03.000
to Mildenhall, I want to do a PAR. So they'd

00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:08.139
go and get the senior controller. You diva. So

00:44:08.139 --> 00:44:11.360
they'd say, okay, we got a PAR. So he'd get there

00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.559
and they'd crank up their screen. A pain in the

00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:18.280
ass. A pain in the rear. AR. Pain in the ass.

00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:23.039
Pain in the arse. Arse, yeah. But what a PAR

00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:27.420
would be, I would be just looking just at my

00:44:27.420 --> 00:44:30.829
instruments. Yeah. Just at my instruments. And

00:44:30.829 --> 00:44:33.010
they would say... No VFR, can't look at anything.

00:44:33.090 --> 00:44:34.789
You can't get your proximity. You might as well

00:44:34.789 --> 00:44:38.750
be having a hood on. But the controller tells

00:44:38.750 --> 00:44:41.590
you, you're left, of course, right, of course.

00:44:41.909 --> 00:44:45.550
Turn right. If you do a no gyro, a no gyro says,

00:44:45.710 --> 00:44:48.489
not only are they telling you what to do, but

00:44:48.489 --> 00:44:50.730
they're calling your turn. So it sounds like

00:44:50.730 --> 00:44:56.349
this. It's like, Jeopardy 21, you're three minutes

00:44:56.349 --> 00:44:59.449
from final approach fix. Report gear down, gear

00:44:59.449 --> 00:45:02.769
down. fully configured. Okay. You're three minutes

00:45:02.769 --> 00:45:05.909
from glide or three miles from glide slope. Prepare

00:45:05.909 --> 00:45:08.070
for descent. You know, it's been years, but basically

00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:11.250
you're one half mile from glide slope. Begin

00:45:11.250 --> 00:45:14.769
descent. You're slightly above glide slope. Descending

00:45:14.769 --> 00:45:17.590
nicely. You're on glide slope. Adjust rate of

00:45:17.590 --> 00:45:20.070
descent. You're slightly below glide slope. Turn

00:45:20.070 --> 00:45:24.070
right. Stop turn. Right. So if it's a no gyro,

00:45:24.090 --> 00:45:26.880
they'll say turn right. Stop turn. So basically,

00:45:27.019 --> 00:45:29.639
you're the video game. They're the ones telling

00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.940
you. They're landing you. This is a big strain

00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:36.019
on them, isn't it? But they love it. Well, they'd

00:45:36.019 --> 00:45:40.420
have to. The worst thing that could happen, they

00:45:40.420 --> 00:45:42.739
could say abort and go around, right, if they

00:45:42.739 --> 00:45:44.179
had got that wrong. Yeah, what they would do

00:45:44.179 --> 00:45:46.579
is they would say, slightly below glide slope,

00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:50.159
adjust rate of descent. Further below glide slope,

00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:54.719
adjust rate of descent. you're too far below

00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.639
glide slope go around now that never happened

00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:01.059
to me because i thank god you totally don't want

00:46:01.059 --> 00:46:04.139
to be below glide slope it's like because that's

00:46:04.139 --> 00:46:06.139
what happened with ian in the jungle in manaus

00:46:06.139 --> 00:46:08.039
you had the trees it was below glide yeah you

00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.780
can't you cannot do below glide slope is a super

00:46:10.780 --> 00:46:13.639
bad idea because even with the visual They're

00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.980
called VASIs, which are the visual glide slope

00:46:15.980 --> 00:46:18.159
indicators. That's how I learned. And you had

00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.440
to have the white and then the red over. And

00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:21.920
you knew when you got that you were in the right

00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.099
place. And then it was white on white. But you

00:46:24.099 --> 00:46:25.659
knew if you got below glide slope, you could

00:46:25.659 --> 00:46:27.280
just put the power in and then you'd go up a

00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.739
bit. And you had a long enough runway to do it.

00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.239
But with this, I mean, it's got to be very precise.

00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:35.420
With the VASIs or the PAPIs, the PAPIs are a

00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:37.139
little different stack. But basically, it's the

00:46:37.139 --> 00:46:40.900
same thing. If you're only seeing red, red over

00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:44.619
red, you're dead. If you're red over red, you

00:46:44.619 --> 00:46:46.860
don't know how low below glide slope you are.

00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:49.119
Yeah. You need to put some power in. You could

00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.639
be slightly low or you could be way low. Put

00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.619
some gas in and get out of there. So this is

00:46:54.619 --> 00:46:59.940
all to say that what Pete did for me was he dusted

00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:02.900
off my dream about... Private ownership of an

00:47:02.900 --> 00:47:04.039
airline. So I want to just talk to you a bit

00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:06.639
about your dreams. So when we, about a year ago,

00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.260
maybe when we first met, you were talking about

00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:10.980
the big vision that you have. And we can talk

00:47:10.980 --> 00:47:12.980
about that at another time. And it's having this,

00:47:13.099 --> 00:47:15.500
it was like, to me, it was like the one that

00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:18.440
was in Scotland. It's having this community where

00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:20.360
everyone lives together and you have, it's just

00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.099
this big community. And you were talking about

00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:26.019
having a fleet of planes and you went into the

00:47:26.019 --> 00:47:28.539
ones and you had talked about having a large

00:47:28.539 --> 00:47:31.900
one. Now that somehow is... linked to your destiny

00:47:31.900 --> 00:47:35.300
because this idea is a very, very large idea.

00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.699
And what you're trying to do is bring it on out

00:47:38.699 --> 00:47:41.820
of the timing, but that is so prevalent in your

00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:43.599
mind because that will happen because it's linked

00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.099
to all the things that you're trying to create

00:47:45.099 --> 00:47:47.500
with your life. And I think that presses on you

00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:49.440
and you just surrender to that because that will

00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.519
happen and you will have these planes and they

00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.380
will be yours. You're such a brilliant person

00:47:53.380 --> 00:47:56.480
because first of all, it stuns me that you even

00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.739
remembered those things. Remember where we were

00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:01.260
standing. We were standing out in your driveway.

00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:04.260
I'm stunned that you even remember those things

00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:07.079
because some of those items are for me like 20

00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.519
years old. It really impressed me because I have

00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.260
a big vision myself. And so I thought I'm in

00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:12.139
the presence of a person that's really got her

00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:14.239
shit together and is thinking big. It's when

00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.460
I really bonded with you because I like the boldness

00:48:16.460 --> 00:48:18.820
of it. And of course it's there. Of course that's

00:48:18.820 --> 00:48:20.539
available in the quantum field. That is right

00:48:20.539 --> 00:48:24.590
there. What's cool about what you just said is

00:48:24.590 --> 00:48:26.769
you're correct. I'm basically in the process

00:48:26.769 --> 00:48:30.269
of fusing because whenever a circumstance changes,

00:48:30.389 --> 00:48:33.429
like last week when we last spoke after the podcast,

00:48:33.510 --> 00:48:36.969
I was thinking about the possibilities of, hey,

00:48:37.010 --> 00:48:38.809
if I can get my health good and if these other

00:48:38.809 --> 00:48:41.469
conditions are met, I could go back and fly two

00:48:41.469 --> 00:48:45.269
more years as a captain. And my idea was that

00:48:45.269 --> 00:48:49.630
would be the peak of my flying. But when I was

00:48:49.630 --> 00:48:53.849
talking to Pete, he's like, What is your standard?

00:48:53.969 --> 00:48:57.309
What is your definition of peak of flying? Yeah,

00:48:57.550 --> 00:48:59.349
I was just asking the same thing in my head.

00:48:59.369 --> 00:49:01.530
You've already checked the box. That's what I

00:49:01.530 --> 00:49:03.010
was thinking. It's like, well, haven't you reached

00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:05.429
your peak already? I mean, you've really been.

00:49:05.730 --> 00:49:08.469
You checked it off. What's next? What's next

00:49:08.469 --> 00:49:11.469
for you? And you have to remember sometimes in

00:49:11.469 --> 00:49:13.769
life, if you can't sit for a long time, you're

00:49:13.769 --> 00:49:15.690
not supposed to be flying because you've got

00:49:15.690 --> 00:49:17.349
bigger fish to fry. So you've got to stay in

00:49:17.349 --> 00:49:21.130
alignment. So what you've done is you've synthesized.

00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:24.800
the merging or the confluence of two central

00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.159
ideas for me one is the idea of this fly -in

00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.619
type of community because if you have a flying

00:49:30.619 --> 00:49:33.320
community it can be remote and if it's remote

00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:36.940
you can find some exquisite oh absolutely exquisite

00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:39.360
properties if you don't have to be by the turnpike

00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.300
yeah and who who wants to drive you've got a

00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:42.940
plane that you can go in and out and you can

00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:44.280
have a helicopter helicopter it's going to say

00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.519
helicopter so yeah if you do this correctly you

00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:50.619
can be remote yeah You can have all the accoutrements.

00:49:50.619 --> 00:49:52.460
You can have all of the bells and whistles, a

00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:54.840
nice, beautiful community. Big, long runway.

00:49:55.019 --> 00:49:57.760
You can have a DAO. So you don't need an HOA.

00:49:57.780 --> 00:50:01.579
You have agreement. People agree that these things

00:50:01.579 --> 00:50:03.239
are going to be done. These things are not going

00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.539
to be done. And we have boating communities like

00:50:05.539 --> 00:50:07.380
that now, don't we? It's the same thing. And

00:50:07.380 --> 00:50:09.800
it's just, it's now a flying community. And you

00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.159
all have your little hangar and you all have

00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:12.900
your plane and you can go in and out at will.

00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:14.519
Totally. Lovely houses. So we're going to combine

00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.190
that. And then the other thing, remember I said

00:50:17.190 --> 00:50:21.090
you've synthesized this confluence, is the earth

00:50:21.090 --> 00:50:24.429
angel community. So I'm seeing this beautiful

00:50:24.429 --> 00:50:27.929
confluence of these two ideas and I'm just impressed

00:50:27.929 --> 00:50:30.190
that you put that together. It's really cool

00:50:30.190 --> 00:50:32.369
of you. And destiny is pulling on you and you're

00:50:32.369 --> 00:50:34.230
feeling the pull of that, but it's not this.

00:50:34.289 --> 00:50:36.570
Just stay focused on what you're doing and all

00:50:36.570 --> 00:50:38.309
that will arise because you've already seen it.

00:50:38.530 --> 00:50:41.530
And I'm not, to me, it's not just one decision.

00:50:41.650 --> 00:50:44.280
Like the governing thing is... Can I physically

00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.000
sit for more than a couple of hours? Yeah. That's

00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.539
the governing thing. But beyond that, I have

00:50:49.539 --> 00:50:51.760
to kind of pre -think. They need to design cockpits

00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.139
so you don't have to sit. You can lie down. So

00:50:55.139 --> 00:50:57.059
everything is up here and you could just lie

00:50:57.059 --> 00:50:58.739
down. There's a hole in the market for that.

00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.440
Then you wouldn't have to sit. You could just

00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.699
lie and fly. Well, I'm excited. I'm kind of joking

00:51:03.699 --> 00:51:06.579
a bit, but it's still not a bad idea. Lie and

00:51:06.579 --> 00:51:09.900
fly cockpit. Certainly recline. When you look

00:51:09.900 --> 00:51:13.019
at some of these, like I was invited to be a...

00:51:13.369 --> 00:51:15.050
Are you familiar with Gulfstream? Do you know

00:51:15.050 --> 00:51:16.869
what a Gulfstream is? Yes, yes. A lot of private

00:51:16.869 --> 00:51:19.070
jets are Gulfstreams. The exquisite ones are.

00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:21.090
The exquisite ones, yeah. So these are top -end

00:51:21.090 --> 00:51:23.010
jets. How much does a Gulfstream, a good one,

00:51:23.090 --> 00:51:25.130
cost? How much did Kim Kardashian pay for hers?

00:51:25.150 --> 00:51:28.230
Like $500 million or something? Not $500 million.

00:51:28.289 --> 00:51:32.730
No. Like how many? I would be surprised. If she

00:51:32.730 --> 00:51:35.829
was going to get a brand new... I think she has.

00:51:36.050 --> 00:51:37.409
I think she bought one. The last time I priced

00:51:37.409 --> 00:51:39.989
one, it was a $650. It might be up to the $750

00:51:39.989 --> 00:51:43.059
or $850. I don't even know how it looked. I would

00:51:43.059 --> 00:51:47.199
be, I would think that the basic, basic, basic

00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:50.400
model without all of the... Being retrofitted.

00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.960
You know, without the post... Yes, the add -ons.

00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.239
Without all the accoutrements, you know, I would

00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.639
think they're probably in the 30 million. Okay,

00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:01.019
so that's not... 30 million maybe. Okay, not

00:52:01.019 --> 00:52:03.480
right up there like a Boeing. For a basic, basic

00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.139
golf stream. Yeah. But I mean, I'm probably way

00:52:06.139 --> 00:52:09.559
off. To me, the golf stream is not something

00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.710
that... most of the people most of the time.

00:52:12.769 --> 00:52:16.150
For me, I want to be able to take you, pick you

00:52:16.150 --> 00:52:18.710
and maybe a couple other people up. go have lunch

00:52:18.710 --> 00:52:21.010
in the Keys and be back by dinner. Yeah, I love

00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:23.329
it. Yeah, it's beautiful. I don't need a golf

00:52:23.329 --> 00:52:24.329
stream to do that. You don't have to be in fucking

00:52:24.329 --> 00:52:26.650
traffic. I don't need a golf stream to do that.

00:52:26.869 --> 00:52:29.769
No, but that's beautiful. I love that idea. And

00:52:29.769 --> 00:52:31.269
if you want to go to the Panhandle. If you wanted

00:52:31.269 --> 00:52:33.170
to go to New York, you can go to New York. Right.

00:52:33.730 --> 00:52:36.429
And we don't have to go to New York City. We

00:52:36.429 --> 00:52:38.650
can actually go to the municipal port. That's

00:52:38.650 --> 00:52:41.010
right. We can go to Martha's Vineyard or something.

00:52:41.449 --> 00:52:44.389
You don't have to go into where the cattle is,

00:52:44.469 --> 00:52:45.809
where the masses are. So you've got quite bougie

00:52:45.809 --> 00:52:49.550
tastes, haven't you? And I love it. You don't

00:52:49.550 --> 00:52:51.630
want to be stuck behind people going 10 miles

00:52:51.630 --> 00:52:53.829
an hour slower than you. You want to be up in

00:52:53.829 --> 00:52:56.309
the air because it's not filled with cars. You

00:52:56.309 --> 00:52:57.969
can get right there and you can get there quicker

00:52:57.969 --> 00:52:59.750
and more directly. It's more efficient. It's

00:52:59.750 --> 00:53:02.590
more beautiful. And then you land. I mean, it's

00:53:02.590 --> 00:53:05.110
a much better way of getting around. Probably

00:53:05.110 --> 00:53:07.510
the one airplane I'm looking at now is called

00:53:07.510 --> 00:53:10.250
the PC -24. It's made by Pilates. How many people

00:53:10.250 --> 00:53:12.199
does that sit? Depends on the configuration,

00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.500
but six very comfortably with their stuff, very

00:53:15.500 --> 00:53:18.579
comfortably. But that would be something. Actually,

00:53:19.380 --> 00:53:23.420
there's a lot of sheriff's offices. There's a

00:53:23.420 --> 00:53:26.460
lot of State Department. There's a lot of people

00:53:26.460 --> 00:53:29.179
that use the PC -24 for search and rescue, for

00:53:29.179 --> 00:53:32.820
different things, because not only is it great

00:53:32.820 --> 00:53:36.699
for cruising, it's really capable for cruising,

00:53:36.739 --> 00:53:39.920
but it's also, you can land it. It's a jet that

00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.139
you can land on a grass strip. Oh, nice. You

00:53:42.139 --> 00:53:44.840
can actually land it on unprepared. Yeah, that's

00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:48.099
great. It's flexible. If you have a piece of

00:53:48.099 --> 00:53:51.139
field. So you could land on Osborne Airfield

00:53:51.139 --> 00:53:52.519
across the road. I could land on Osborne if I

00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.519
wanted to, yeah. So those are things that are

00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.269
very attractive. It doesn't have to be bougie.

00:53:58.269 --> 00:54:00.670
I like your vision. Well, it is a nice bougie

00:54:00.670 --> 00:54:03.829
vision and that's totally fine. I mean, it's

00:54:03.829 --> 00:54:06.369
such a great way of... I mean, you could get

00:54:06.369 --> 00:54:08.250
in a plane now and we could be at a restaurant

00:54:08.250 --> 00:54:09.909
in Martha's Vineyard in, what, an hour and a

00:54:09.909 --> 00:54:11.889
half or something. It is bougie, but it's lovely.

00:54:11.949 --> 00:54:14.630
I think it's a trend item too because my LinkedIn

00:54:14.630 --> 00:54:18.250
feed and my... Because I've been looking at airplanes

00:54:18.250 --> 00:54:21.789
and helicopters, all of a sudden I'm getting

00:54:21.789 --> 00:54:24.650
all of these things coming my way because...

00:54:25.069 --> 00:54:27.269
The central authorities. Would you learn how

00:54:27.269 --> 00:54:30.190
to fly a helicopter? Oh, yeah, totally. I'm going

00:54:30.190 --> 00:54:32.090
to. Oh, are you? I've already flown that. I've

00:54:32.090 --> 00:54:33.750
asked Tony that and he doesn't want to learn.

00:54:33.929 --> 00:54:36.380
Oh, no. I think helicopters are super cool. You

00:54:36.380 --> 00:54:37.780
could have a little pad right out here. Right

00:54:37.780 --> 00:54:40.480
out front. That's why I don't have trees. I can't

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.159
wait. I'm going to manifest it with you, darling.

00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:44.159
I can't wait. That's why I don't have trees in

00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:46.239
front. If you look right out my front door, there's

00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:47.900
a... And you're going to have a big round circle

00:54:47.900 --> 00:54:50.539
and then have an earth angel on it, right? And

00:54:50.539 --> 00:54:52.320
that'll be where the helicopter lands. Are you

00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.659
freaking kidding me? I get a... No! I can see

00:54:55.659 --> 00:54:58.659
it in my mind's eye. I can't believe you said

00:54:58.659 --> 00:55:00.659
that. Have you seen a picture of my earth angel

00:55:00.659 --> 00:55:03.340
helicopter? No! Okay. No, I'm talking about the

00:55:03.340 --> 00:55:05.800
pad. No, I'm talking about the actual helicopter.

00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.260
So let's, okay, we talked about all sorts of

00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:11.699
stuff. What have we not talked about that you

00:55:11.699 --> 00:55:13.739
want to talk about? Nothing today because we've

00:55:13.739 --> 00:55:16.840
run out of time. But I've got my catechism here

00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.980
and I would like on the next episode to spend

00:55:18.980 --> 00:55:21.079
about, I think it's going to take maybe four

00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.219
or five minutes just reading the questions out.

00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.800
There's about 60 of them and it pertains to our

00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.480
Earth journey. And then I'd like to launch into

00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.400
a bit of a discussion here and there. Okay, well.

00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.699
Well, I'm glad that... In the meantime, I want

00:55:33.699 --> 00:55:36.440
to show you this picture. I'm glad that you're

00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.900
not going back to Japan. Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness.

00:55:39.980 --> 00:55:42.420
That's beautiful. Oh, wow. That is so fucking

00:55:42.420 --> 00:55:47.139
bougie. Flashy. Oh, that's sexy. Do you like

00:55:47.139 --> 00:55:48.619
that? That's just a prototype. Yeah, I really

00:55:48.619 --> 00:55:50.860
like it. Really like it. We need to put this

00:55:50.860 --> 00:55:52.820
on the... This has to go on this episode, right?

00:55:52.860 --> 00:55:54.780
Oh, you think so? Yes, I do. All right, okay.

00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.179
Well, we did... We did some... We did talk quite

00:55:59.179 --> 00:56:01.619
a bit about aviation, so I think that can go.

00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:05.619
So this has been good. Thank you for letting

00:56:05.619 --> 00:56:08.000
me talk about Web3. Yes, it's fascinating. To

00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.960
me, the bottom line on the Web3 is we're taking

00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.960
power and structure away from the centralized.

00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.960
Leveling the playing field. And we're creating

00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.420
a level playing field. So nobody's censored.

00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:23.679
Good. Freedom of speech and expression. If you

00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.900
want to start making your own airplanes and selling

00:56:25.900 --> 00:56:28.869
your own airplanes. You usually have the same

00:56:28.869 --> 00:56:31.030
access to the internet as Boeing Airlines has.

00:56:31.210 --> 00:56:33.230
I agree. And it's a level playing field. Power

00:56:33.230 --> 00:56:34.809
to the people, baby. Power to the people, baby.

00:56:35.849 --> 00:56:37.769
So, Sarah, thanks for coming out. Oh, it's been

00:56:37.769 --> 00:56:39.590
wonderful. And thanks again for bringing me honey.

00:56:39.650 --> 00:56:41.889
Oh, you're welcome. You have to squirt it over

00:56:41.889 --> 00:56:44.949
a scone. Do you know what a scone is? Yeah, yeah.

00:56:45.030 --> 00:56:47.030
And so a bit of butter, and you can have the

00:56:47.030 --> 00:56:49.010
plant -based butter, and then just drizzle that

00:56:49.010 --> 00:56:52.070
in honey. But I put a lot. Look, I mean, if it

00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:53.570
comes to something. And it's just a dessert.

00:56:53.730 --> 00:56:55.570
Oh, my, it's so decadent. If it comes to something

00:56:55.570 --> 00:56:57.389
like that, I'm going to have real butter. I'm

00:56:57.389 --> 00:56:59.630
just telling you. Oh, that's good. But the plant

00:56:59.630 --> 00:57:01.449
-based butter is lovely, though. I've had it.

00:57:01.610 --> 00:57:04.670
It's really, it's such a good rendition. It is.

00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.739
I was not disappointed. It is good. But you have

00:57:07.739 --> 00:57:09.639
animal butter just once. You can do that once

00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:11.239
every four years. You know, if I'm going to have

00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:13.579
a little bit of butter. A bit of organic honey.

00:57:13.739 --> 00:57:18.380
It's going to be what it is. But the same thing,

00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:20.909
like if you had me come on over. If you had me

00:57:20.909 --> 00:57:23.170
coming over and you had shrimp on the barbecue,

00:57:23.369 --> 00:57:24.789
I mean... Yeah, you're not going to be a prima

00:57:24.789 --> 00:57:26.989
donna about it. No, I'm just going to have a

00:57:26.989 --> 00:57:29.289
nibble of whatever's there. I won't eat beef

00:57:29.289 --> 00:57:31.489
or pork. I'm going to do raw ox liver next time

00:57:31.489 --> 00:57:33.389
you come over. Yeah, and I'll watch you eat that.

00:57:33.449 --> 00:57:35.670
With a cocktail stick. I'll watch you eat that

00:57:35.670 --> 00:57:38.690
because I'm not going to eat ox liver. All right,

00:57:38.710 --> 00:57:40.929
darling, you take it easy. Okay, my dear. Thanks,

00:57:41.050 --> 00:57:42.329
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00:57:42.329 --> 00:57:57.400
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