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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join

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us as we wander off the path to find the ideas

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that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the

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mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with

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tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better

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life. Welcome back to The Treehouse. My name

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is Dr. Phillips. You're listening to Soul Decodes.

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And I'm with Sarah Tirri. Hello, everyone.

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Hi, darling. What is going on with you, Sarah?

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Well, I just had a bite of a banana, which was

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underripe. Banana? So it sucked. Oh, really?

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Yeah. I can get you a ripe one. No, it's totally

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fine. I just was grinning there because I just

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needed a couple of bites. They were on my stomach

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to rumble. Because last week when I was talking,

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I could hear it rumble. I hope none of the listeners

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did. I'm going to go ahead and mute my phone

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because... My phone's been blowing up lately.

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There's a lot of people excited about a lot of

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cool things going on. So what's been going on?

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Well, my stuff is business related, most of it.

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I do have some health and wellness breakthroughs.

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I get a lot of people that are turning the corner.

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Nice. Oh, that's good. The biggest thing I'm

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finding is that people are finally comprehending

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how toxic they are. And just by cleaning. Emotionally,

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mentally, physically, everything. All above.

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And just by taking out the trash, like some people

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that are doing all this stuff to lose weight.

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I don't like losing weight. I want you to keep

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your weight. Lose fat. But lose fat. Yeah, you

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don't like the weight interchangeable with fat.

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I want you to trim up. Do you correct people

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on that? Oh, I do. So you don't want to lose

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weight. You need to lose fat. Yeah, I asked them

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the question. It's like, so if you're on the

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beach and you have a perfect, what you think

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is your perfect body, whatever that is, and you

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look at it, you look in your mirror, you look

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beautiful. And then you step on the scale and

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you weigh 300 pounds, but you look perfect. Yeah.

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Are you okay with that? I don't get on the scale.

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Do you? Well, no, I don't either. I never looked

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to me. If I look in the mirror and I'm like,

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yeah, that's all I care about. It's not about

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the weight and that's where people are. Yes.

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Cause muscle weighs a lot. Yeah. Like when you

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look at me, I don't look, I don't look heavy.

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No. But if you try to move me, it's not going

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to work. You know, it's like. You're not going

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to move me. It's going to take like four people

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to move me, right? Well, that's good. Unless

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you need a paramedic. It's like, God, I can't

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move this chick. But yeah, I think the message,

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and this is with athletes too, because... So

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let's just go back to when I came in. So I was

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talking about the stairs because we're up in

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the treehouse and I don't know how many stairs,

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there's like 20. And we were talking about stairs

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and in my other house, I had stairs up and down

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all the time and I had to let the dogs in and

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out. So I was using the stairs and I noticed

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what it was doing to my legs. It was a really,

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really good workout. And then you were talking

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about when you were coaching boxing and that

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you would have to tire the athletes out before

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you'd let them in the ring together. So you were

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talking about, so just pick up on that. That

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was interesting. Yeah, so for those of you joining

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us, we try not to talk before the mics are turned

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on because we have so many cool conversations

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off the mic. We just try to make it an agreement

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that if there's going to be something interesting

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that's of general interest to the world, we're

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just going to... On the mic. Just wait, go on

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the mic. So yeah, we were just talking briefly

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about... And Sarah brought up the steps, and

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I told her that some of the best athletes I've

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trained, or even in my own personal training

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journey, running, we call it running stairs or

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running steps, is one of the best things you

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can do. I mean, walking them would still be good.

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Totally. Yeah. So what I was doing, I went to

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the Air Force Academy. The first two years, I

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boxed. The third year, I coached. So I still

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boxed, but it was not competitively. I was the

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coach. And then the fourth year, I was a manager.

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So while I was a coach, I was also a ref. So

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I coached, and then they needed refs, so I refed.

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Refing boxing was one of the toughest things

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I've done. Oh, really? It was tough. What was

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tough about it? Well, because you have two fighters.

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You've really got to pay freaking attention.

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Well, you have two fighters that are really good

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athletes, and they're at a high altitude. Because

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Colorado Springs is pretty high altitude, so

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the air is very thin. So if they're not conditioned,

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they're going to get winded. If they get winded

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and they can't defend themselves, one hit and

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they're out. And you don't want them to... It's

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not about knocking people out in intercollegiate

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boxing or intramurals. You don't want them to

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knock each other out. You want them to score

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and get... Yeah, and the least amount of pain.

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Yeah, because if somebody... And that's why I

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did not box. as a junior or senior, because if

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you get knocked out, you don't know what that's

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going to do to your pilot qualification. And

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to me, flying airplanes was the priority. Winning

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a boxing fight. Hitting your head on the floor.

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Winning a match. Winning a match is not as important

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as maintaining your health. And nor is causing

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the injury. I mean, you don't want to bang your

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head and be knocked out. Right. Yeah, so there's

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that. Yeah, with a pilot. You've got his head

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being bubble wrapped. Having a pilot have a concussion

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is not a good thing. So anyway, we... When I

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was training as a young athlete, I noticed how

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winded I got. Going from Detroit, which is probably

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800 feet above sea level, to Colorado Springs,

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which is about a mile above sea level, that's

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a lot less air. Oh, for sure. So I found that

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when I trained up there and then I would go back

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to Detroit, I would never get tired. Yeah? Never.

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Yeah. So when I was training myself and also

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my... my students my my young boxers we would

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um i would try to i don't want them going into

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the ring fresh i want them going in tired tired

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yeah not not exhausted i think it's very humane

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actually because you don't want them all revved

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up going in yeah you don't want injuries you

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don't want anyone to be knocked out we just want

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to they're just training and they want to be

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technically good don't they right and and what

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i was sharing when we You say, well, wait, don't

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talk anymore. Turn on the mics. That's where

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we left off. Yeah, that's where we left off.

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What I was sharing with you is that in the military,

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we had this concept that if you could see how

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a fighting force behaves when it's tired, when

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it's hungry, when it's exhausted, when it's deprived

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of any sort of... Nice thing. Nourishment. Nourishment.

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Any sort of nice thing in their life. And they're

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completely deprived. They're exhausted. They're

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dirty. They're cold. They're hungry. It's the

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pits. If you can have a fighting force that can

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overcome all of those and still have this, I'm

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not going to quit. I'm going to win. Yeah. And,

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you know, it's going to take. 200 of you to take

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one of us down and there's thousands of us so

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good luck with that right so you have that if

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you can come out of the mud and the dirt and

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the cold and you're tired and you can still have

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that that grit yeah it says assistance you could

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do what you need but i'm still gonna win Yeah.

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I'm impossible to defeat. You cannot defeat me.

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And if you've been deprived of everything, at

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what point is adrenaline going to come in? Because

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you've accepted the fact that I'm going to win

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and now you'd be adrenalized, wouldn't you? Because

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you've now given yourself permission, like you're

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not going to break me. Here I am. So even though

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you've been through all that and you're hungry

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and you're tired. I think mentally you could

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break through that if you had a strong mind and

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you'd been training your mind. Right. But I mean,

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I couldn't do it. I mean, I'm such a baby. Well,

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you say that, but you'd be surprised. So when

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you're training an athlete, yes, there's the

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physical part, but most of it's mental. Most

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of being an athlete is mental. And a lot of it

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has to do with your visualization, which dovetails

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with your books. Your books are about visualizing.

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Yeah. I love working with athletes. Visualize

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the person you want to be. Just visualize it.

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I love working with athletes even now because

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they don't like to lose. Same with military.

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But military sometimes... So you've got to have

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the ability to visualize and you've got to be

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competitive. Were you naturally competitive when

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you were little? Oh, I hate losing. Right from

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a little kid? Oh, as far back as I can remember.

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In fact, quick story about boxing. When I was...

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Two years old. Probably almost three. I was riding

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a bike already. That was nice. My neighbors were

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four years old. They were twin. They were, I

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guess, fraternal twins. There was a brother and

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sister the same age. Is that fraternal, I guess?

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I think so. I think fraternal is when you look

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like them. No, that's identical. That's identical.

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Yeah, so fraternal. So you're born at the same

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time, but you don't have the exact same DNA.

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Whatever. not even that. So anyway, these, these

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four year olds were, my brother was less, less

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than a year younger than me. And they were just

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being a little bit dorky towards my younger brother.

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Now I'm only three, almost three. When you mean

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dorky, do you mean uncool? Like just not cool.

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You know, it was just kind of, you know, sometimes

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kids poke other kids or whatever. Just they,

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they play with the baby, but it's more than just

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playing. Yes. They're like being a little bit

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too much with the baby. I'm yeah. And, um, These

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were my neighbors across the street, and at three

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years old, I beat up both four -year -olds. No,

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I'm not happy about that. I mean, I was, my mom

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was like. But you'd gone into real protective

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mode. No, I'm a defender my whole life. Yeah.

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And I didn't know what I did wrong, but my mom

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let me. And like a mama bear as well. Yeah, but

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my mama bear. Yeah, your mama bear. My mama bear

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came on. About your baby brother. You're not

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going to talk to him like that. You're not going

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to upset him and you just wait for him. You're

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not going to grab his arm and make him squirm.

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Because when you grab a baby, or not a baby,

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a toddler. But the point is. These two four -year

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-olds were not treating my younger brother kindly.

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Respectfully. Respectfully, as a toddler. Kindly,

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yeah. And I freaking came unglued on them. Probably

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not rightfully so. But it begs the question.

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I mean, Jesus Christ, how old were you? Well,

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like I said, it was two minutes, almost three,

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probably three. So there's nothing about whether

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you were making the right critical decision.

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You're just so young. You were just acting on

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instinct. But that's the point is where did that

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instinct come from? I never got beaten as a kid.

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I never punched somebody. I never did that. So

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where does that come from? It's a character trait

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that is in your soul and you will have that because

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we choose our lifetimes and we're born over and

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over again. So you decided I need to be this

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in order to succeed in my life plan. So that

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was in you, but that was the first time it had

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ever been experienced because now you're dealing

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with, I mean, it was a sense of righteousness

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as well. There was a lot going on with you as

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a little two and a half year old. What did your

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parents do about it? I don't remember. I just

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remember I got in trouble. I'm like, that was

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very confusing to me because I thought I was

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doing the right thing. What was your relationship

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with the two four -year -olds like after that?

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I don't think they ever saw me again. My mom

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and dad probably was like, yeah, she's got a

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problem. She needs to go to a special school

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or something. But, but still going back to the

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athletes, uh, the, the, there's a, there's a

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certain mentality with fighters. And even now

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in the MMA world, like some of us were literally,

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they call it MMA, like mixed martial arts. Yes.

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My sons are into that. But, but when I was growing

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up, we just call it street fighting. In Detroit,

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we call that street fighting. Which means you

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can just do anything. Which means you can do

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anything. And we used to do that after school.

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Could you ram your fingers into someone's eyeballs?

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Whatever it took. Really, yeah. Look, the idea

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is to win. Now, I'm not saying MMA, you can put

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your fingers in somebody's eyes. No, they have

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to regulate it. But growing up in Detroit...

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Just do what it takes. And it's not always about

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killing the person. That's kind of a wives...

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We're certainly disarming them, isn't it? But

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neutralizing the threat. which is kind of a military

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thing, you only use the force you need to do

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to neutralize the threat. And once they're no

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longer threatening you. And you can back off.

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And you see that in nature where you'll see a,

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you might see a lion and a leopard or a tiger,

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you know, these two competing, maybe there's

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a ram and a tiger or an alligator and a eagle

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or something. They don't keep fighting each other

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after the other ones. Once they've got what they

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want. Once it's like, okay, I'm leaving your

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territory, you win. They don't keep fighting.

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They're not bloodthirsty. Yeah, you made your

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point. You defeated the risk. You defeated the

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incumbent. They're on their way and you're done.

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So going back to the boxers, I felt strongly

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like to get them to be good boxers, you want

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them to be physically tired, emotionally tired,

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mentally tired, winded even, and then we'll start

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training. We'll start talking about technique.

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Because if you can get them to do the correct

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technique, While they're tired, while they're

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winded, then they're going to be better boxers

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when they're fresh. Right. So I always try to

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train them, get them broken down before you build

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them up, that type of thing. But what's interesting

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about that, you just said something about the

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defender. At two and a half, three years old,

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you don't know what you don't know. You're just,

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you're answering a call. That's right. Well,

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I'm going to share this quick story with you

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and then we can talk about your stuff. Thursday

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night, I went and listened to a biochemist. He's

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from a local university. And it was part of the

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permaculture group. I should invite you to some

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of these because this guy is brilliant. I knew

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who he was. He knew who I was. He didn't know

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I was a PhD, but I knew he was. So when I heard

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he was speaking, I was like, okay, I got to go.

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Actually, Robin said, hey, this guy is speaking.

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We need to go. So we both went. And it was beautiful.

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It was outdoor on Lake David. Oh, beautiful.

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On the back of the coffee building there. And

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we're just sitting, and he did a great job. And

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it was right at the end. They were just wrapping

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up. My friend Paul, who runs the permaculture

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group, was just making some announcements, and

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there was this blood -curdling cry. Oh. This

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girl screaming, like screaming bloody murder,

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just like, what? Everybody heard it. It was just

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like it was right next to you. Because when you're

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on an open lake, somebody can be on the other

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side of the lake talking and you can hear them.

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Because that just propagates right across the

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surface. Well, she was in terror, wasn't she?

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She was screaming like crazy. But when you look

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across the lake, it's kind of dark. And it was

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coming from what looked like the community pier.

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Okay. Because there's a little pier there where

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there's a, there's a water park and picnic tables

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and stuff. So I'm looking at, so all of us just

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turned our attention to the pier. And there's

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probably 25 people here at this, this seminar.

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And everyone's just sitting there and she's continuing

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to scream. Was anyone running over there? Did

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you have anyone around? Were there people over

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there? Don't know because it was dark. So I ran

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over there. I jumped in my car and I screamed,

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just went over there. You can't establish anything.

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I took my, I took my Escalade and I put on my

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brights and I put it. Oh, good. I put the brights

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right on the pier. Cause it was really dark.

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And I lit up the pier. Good for you. I was like,

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I'd want you around. Please tell me she just

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wasn't bitten by a mosquito. Well, no, I didn't.

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Cause you don't know. Was she still screaming?

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There's gators there. Like, you don't know if

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she's getting raped or if there's, if she's gotten

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bit by something or you don't know. So I came.

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Of course, I'm armed, right? I didn't deploy

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my weapon, but I had it with me. And so I put

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on the brights. I run out there. And there was

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already another adult there. There was a mom

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at the playground with her. The kid looked about

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four years old, three or four years old. So they

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went over to see what the story was. And it turns

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out that she, the girl, and her two brothers

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were fishing on the dark pier. And the brother

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cast the line. And the hook caught her in the

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back. So she had a fish hook in her back. Oh,

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Jesus. So I was the first, you know, I'm like,

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okay, listen, don't move. Yeah. And did you dislodge

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it? Well, no, no, no. I'm not going to do that

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because fish hooks are, you can really do a lot

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of damage. So I brought her to peace. The brother

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was already calling. So she had this right in

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the back? She had a fish hook in her. in her

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back like that was that was just like her upper

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shoulder and and her brother was casting so it

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actually hooked her but so you don't want to

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bend because i would instinctively want to go

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in and just take the trajectory that it went

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in and just take it out very slowly right except

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for you're still going to have a line there because

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you're pulling a hook through but it's still

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attached to the line. So you can't pull it through.

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Cause now the line's going through or so. And

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I didn't have anything to cut it with. So I basically

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said, look, just, we're going to hang tight.

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He had already calmed down a little bit. She

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did calm down. She was not screaming like crazy,

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crazy. But the point is there's this mentality

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of like, I made a decision a long time ago that

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if I can help somebody, I'm going to do it. So

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I actually went back to the building. And it

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turned out Robin was calling me because she wanted

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to make sure I wasn't in trouble. But I was busy,

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so I didn't get the call. So now I got back there

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and everyone's like, oh, they're happy to see

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me because they don't know what's going on. Yeah.

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As far as I'm concerned, I ran into this burning

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building. Yeah. And they didn't hear from me,

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right? Yeah. So anyway, I got back there and

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they're all like, what happened? What happened?

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I explained it to them. You should have fired

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a couple of shots off. Really made it dramatic.

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But the thing is, what I'm sharing is there's

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this mentality. of people that are action oriented

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athletes are action oriented military they're

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action oriented and so what what happened here

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was this it was whether it was trained or instinctual

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or just a decision i made this could be compassion

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you just want to help someone screaming i came

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back and everyone's like there were three people

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who said i felt I was going to do that or I felt

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like I should do it or I should have. I feel

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bad I didn't do it. You didn't act on it in this

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little bit. That's kind of metaphoric. There's

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so many people. They think they should do something.

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They want to do something. They feel they should

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have oughta, mighta, coulda, right? Yeah. But

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very few people spring into action and do stuff.

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Swing into action. It was funny. My husband and

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I and the rest of my family, there was about...

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I don't know, maybe 12 of us. And we'd gone to

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this restaurant and it was right out in the boondocks.

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It was up near Tavares somewhere. And we got

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there and it was really, really busy. And the

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only place that we could eat would be outside

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because it was heaving. It was what? Heaving.

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What's heaving mean? Really busy. Oh, OK, OK.

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So busy. There wasn't one table full. Oh, I see,

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OK. Food everywhere we'd picked. It was so busy.

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So I immediately think, OK, we've got to eat

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outside. And there was just one little square

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table with two chairs. So I immediately go around

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and I find all the tables. And they're those

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little square aluminium things. They're very,

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very light. Bring them all back, go and find

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some chairs. And Tony's gone in to ask them to

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do that. So when they came out, I'd already done

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it. And he was really sweet about it. He said,

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I like the way that you just took action. Because

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I didn't want to wait. I think it's beautiful.

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Let's just make it happen. Just go into action

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mode and get what you need to happen. And I think

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sometimes, and this is a really good point, because

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sometimes, you know, we talk about action mode,

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but sometimes it's not so much action, it's decision.

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Because sometimes the correct thing for me to

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do is to not act. So I make an affirmative decision.

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To not act. This is especially true when I'm

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talking to an idiot. Like when you're talking

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to an idiot, you're going to make a decision

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to not act. Yes. To not engage. Yeah. Certainly

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don't want to be reactionary. So it doesn't mean

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I'm being passive. I'm being deliberate. Yes.

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I'm deliberately being non -interactive. Yeah.

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Absolutely. But it's still an action, but it's

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a non -action. It's still an action and it's

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still going to, well, it's going to give you

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the result that you want. You don't want to,

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I mean, talking to an idiot, it's an awful thing

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because no one's getting anything out of anything.

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This is almost just like a redundant neutral

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exchange. So how do you do it? So how would you

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describe an idiot? What does that look like?

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Well, first of all, I don't really necessarily

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call people idiots. You just headbutt them instead.

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Well, there's probably a handful of people I

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would characterize as real idiots. But does idiot

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to me, does that mean stupid in terms of brain

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and intellect capacity? Or does it mean that

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you've got the wrong facts and you're acting

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on them? And is that an idiot? I would only apply

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idiot to behaviors. Right. And not to character.

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Because I believe everyone's beautiful and divine.

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That's just me. But their behavior can be idiotic.

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Okay. So what I like to do is, I don't typically

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call people idiots. But I do call out their behavior.

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But they can be idiotic over certain things and

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on other things not. So it's not a general term.

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So I don't even use the term idiot very often.

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But what I do is I say there's ignorant and there's

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stupid. So I'll use this in the context of what

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I'll call medical doctors. There's some brilliant

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medical doctors. They're really, really, really,

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really good at what they do. But they don't know

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they have a blind side. So most medical doctors

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don't know anything about human health. They

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call it health care, but it's not health or care

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because they don't know what it takes to sustain

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a beautiful, perfect, powerful human body. They're

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great when it comes to putting... So they're

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ignorant to you. So they're ignorant. Because

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you don't know what you need to know to make

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better decisions. That's what I'm saying. They're

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ignorant. Some people, like you said, they don't

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know what they don't know. And you can be ignorant,

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and that's fine. But when somebody puts the spotlight

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on it and says, hey, are you aware that there's

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these natural compounds that do ABC -123? And

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there's thousands of years of studies backing

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this up. I'll provide them to you. Would you

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be interested in learning more about these things?

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And they respond with, no, I know everything

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I need to know because I learned it in school.

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Yes, that's pride, isn't it? Well, then they've

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gone from being ignorant to being stupid. Dangerous.

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Because stupid means I know I'm ignorant, but

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I'm not going to do anything about it. Right.

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Well, he's saying, I've learned everything I've

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learned and needed to know, and I learned it

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in school. Well, let's talk about pilots, too,

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because I've run into captains, and I'm sure

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Tony's run into captains. They become dangerous

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when they become stupid. A captain has to understand,

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I don't know everything about everything. Some

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act that way. But if you don't know everything

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about everything, you have to acknowledge that

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you're still a student. You have things to learn.

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Yes, and someone else might know something. Your

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first officer might have a key thing, some super

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idea of how to get out of this situation. And

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there's been a lot of air accidents because the

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captain's so ignorant and the captain's ignorant.

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The first officer has the answer but won't speak

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up. Why? Because the captain... The captain's

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now going to just recommend him. Yes. I'd ground

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that fucking captain. You need to listen to your

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first officer. Sometimes. But you can't have

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him now scared to say anything. That is a horrible

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cockpit management. Absolutely. And there's times,

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especially with a female captain, a young female

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captain and an older male first officer. That

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dynamic is tough. Wow. But that's where the female,

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during the pre -brief, because whenever you have

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a new crew, the captain does a briefing. We get

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the flight attendants and everybody, get them

00:25:07.940 --> 00:25:10.519
all together and say, hey, hi, I'm Captain Phillips.

00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.339
I'm blah, blah, blah, a little background. Just

00:25:13.339 --> 00:25:17.119
introduce ourselves to each other. I'm armed.

00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:20.539
I'm a flight deck officer. I'm armed. I need

00:25:20.539 --> 00:25:22.319
to know about any other weapons that are on board.

00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:24.519
who they are, where they're sitting, because

00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:26.000
you have to know where all the weapons are, right?

00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.539
So I'm armed. This is the way it is. Make sure

00:25:29.539 --> 00:25:31.460
you're not coming into the flight deck unannounced.

00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:33.880
But aren't their weapons going to be in the hold?

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.960
Oh, no. When I was flying, I was armed. But no

00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.680
passengers? No, full passengers, everything.

00:25:43.789 --> 00:25:46.309
But passengers can be armed and have their gun

00:25:46.309 --> 00:25:48.549
on board with... No, no, I was the captain. Yes,

00:25:48.549 --> 00:25:50.470
you're armed. Yeah, I'm armed. Where did you

00:25:50.470 --> 00:25:52.250
think all the other guns were? Who would have

00:25:52.250 --> 00:25:53.690
the other guns? Oh, we used to fly into Reagan

00:25:53.690 --> 00:25:57.490
National all the time. When you fly into D .C.,

00:25:57.490 --> 00:26:02.069
first of all, there are certain... Even the Postal

00:26:02.069 --> 00:26:05.710
Service was armed. Wow. Secret Service. Oh, okay.

00:26:05.730 --> 00:26:08.450
I'd have air marshals. I've had air marshals

00:26:08.450 --> 00:26:11.039
that are armed. And air marshals come... Well,

00:26:11.059 --> 00:26:12.599
I can't talk too much about air marshals because

00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.640
it's proprietary. But anyway, these different

00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:21.079
people, pretty much anyone with the White House

00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.079
that we flew. So at one time you could have 20

00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.779
guns on board? I don't think I've ever had 20.

00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.099
And you need to know where they all are? Yes.

00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.759
And what do they do? Are they allowed to carry

00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:32.140
them on them or do they have to go up into the

00:26:32.140 --> 00:26:34.940
locker? It depends on who they are. Right. And

00:26:34.940 --> 00:26:38.099
you make that call? No, it's all protocol. Okay.

00:26:39.560 --> 00:26:41.839
Virtually all the time, they're armed, they have

00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.440
their weapons. I know who they are, they know

00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.940
I'm armed. The reason they need to know that

00:26:47.940 --> 00:26:53.259
the captain's armed is because they don't have

00:26:53.259 --> 00:26:55.500
to worry about the flight deck. If that door

00:26:55.500 --> 00:26:57.500
opens and I don't like what I see, it's not going

00:26:57.500 --> 00:27:00.500
to be there anymore. So they don't really have

00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:03.039
to worry. Is an American Airlines captain armed

00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.440
now, today, flying down to Hawaii from Los Angeles?

00:27:07.549 --> 00:27:09.490
I can't really address those things on the air

00:27:09.490 --> 00:27:11.329
because those numbers, those figures... I didn't

00:27:11.329 --> 00:27:13.250
know that they were. Tony's never mentioned that

00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:16.630
they are. He doesn't pack when he's flying. He

00:27:16.630 --> 00:27:18.849
could if he wanted to. Could he? I'll have to

00:27:18.849 --> 00:27:21.130
ask him. It just depends on... International

00:27:21.130 --> 00:27:23.730
flights have different rules. But stateside,

00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:27.569
domestically, there's a lot of us armed. It was

00:27:27.569 --> 00:27:29.509
a good program. It still exists. Now, if you

00:27:29.509 --> 00:27:32.190
travel as a civilian... Because Joey's taken

00:27:32.190 --> 00:27:34.410
his gun to Tennessee. He had to pack it in the

00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:35.970
hold and had to go through a special security.

00:27:36.430 --> 00:27:38.569
Do you have to do that? Well, when I was going

00:27:38.569 --> 00:27:41.009
to and from work, like if I was flying, when

00:27:41.009 --> 00:27:44.049
I was living in Detroit. No, now. Now, if you

00:27:44.049 --> 00:27:45.849
were traveling and you wanted. If I was going

00:27:45.849 --> 00:27:50.089
to work, like say I was, let's just pretend that

00:27:50.089 --> 00:27:52.109
I was still with JetBlue and I was up. I live

00:27:52.109 --> 00:27:56.349
in Florida, but I'm going to work in, say I'm

00:27:56.349 --> 00:27:59.759
at JFK. Say that's my pilot base. I would have

00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.140
to go from Florida to JFK to start my day, but

00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:05.920
I'd have to take my weapon with me. So I would

00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:08.799
check in for the flight. I would tell the gate

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.039
agent quietly, I'm an FFDO, I'm going to work.

00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.299
And they'd say, okay, what seat are you in? And

00:28:15.299 --> 00:28:17.000
they'd give me like an aisle seat or something.

00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.779
But I would have, nobody would know except for

00:28:21.779 --> 00:28:24.039
the captain and the crew. Like I would tell the

00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.819
crew, because the crew has to know that I'm an

00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:31.369
asset. So even though I'm sitting there, I'm

00:28:31.369 --> 00:28:32.910
off duty. And do you take care of what you need

00:28:32.910 --> 00:28:34.829
to take care of? Because I've got it. Because

00:28:34.829 --> 00:28:37.329
if someone comes in, I don't need you because

00:28:37.329 --> 00:28:42.150
I'm good. No, you asked me, would I carry my

00:28:42.150 --> 00:28:44.230
weapon? Oh, if you were just traveling, yes.

00:28:44.269 --> 00:28:47.930
So if I was just traveling, my weapon is on me.

00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:50.490
I have my weapon in my possession, but it's secured.

00:28:50.670 --> 00:28:56.730
I'm not deploying it. If there's an issue, excuse

00:28:56.730 --> 00:29:00.029
me. Excuse me, I'm going to have to take that

00:29:00.029 --> 00:29:01.849
off. You can reach for it, right, if there's

00:29:01.849 --> 00:29:04.309
an issue. You can be like, boom. That'd be awful

00:29:04.309 --> 00:29:06.069
to have to use a gun. Well, I mean, if I had

00:29:06.069 --> 00:29:07.970
to, I could pull it out and deploy it. But the

00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:10.789
point is they just need to know that that weapon

00:29:10.789 --> 00:29:13.569
exists and that I'm in control of it. It doesn't

00:29:13.569 --> 00:29:15.430
mean I'm wearing it or donning it. It doesn't

00:29:15.430 --> 00:29:18.289
mean it's even handy. It just means that out

00:29:18.289 --> 00:29:21.609
of respect for the crew, they know who I am and

00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:24.619
that that's it. Beyond that, I really can't talk

00:29:24.619 --> 00:29:27.500
about policies and procedures. Well, I'm going

00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:29.519
to. I'm going to grill Tony because... Well,

00:29:29.539 --> 00:29:32.920
anybody can look this up. It's called the FFDO.

00:29:33.140 --> 00:29:36.019
I've never heard him say that there's a gun in

00:29:36.019 --> 00:29:38.500
the flight deck. But it's optional. No, but he's

00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:41.339
never mentioned it. It's never once come up.

00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.960
He can be part of the program. It's called the

00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.539
FFDO program. I'm going to have to ask him. FFDO,

00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:48.500
Federal Flight Deck Officer. Well, next time

00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:52.259
we talk, I'll have an update. Yeah, and again,

00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.259
I don't talk too much about it. I think there

00:29:54.259 --> 00:29:57.299
should be. I think flight deck crews should have

00:29:57.299 --> 00:29:59.180
a gun. They should have a weapon up there. But,

00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.980
I mean, you'd have to really circumspect how

00:30:00.980 --> 00:30:05.519
you use that. I think they should. I mean, you're

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.380
martial arts trained. I mean, there's other ways

00:30:07.380 --> 00:30:09.440
of restraining people before shooting them on

00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.940
the plane, isn't there? Yeah, I mean, shooting

00:30:11.940 --> 00:30:15.220
people would be the last resort. Absolutely.

00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.339
Really, I view a weapon as just being complimentary.

00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.720
Like, you should, as a fighter, be able to subdue

00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.180
somebody without a weapon. Like, if I don't have

00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:27.180
a weapon, I'm still going to subdue them. The

00:30:27.180 --> 00:30:30.099
weapon is what's called standoff. So, like, right

00:30:30.099 --> 00:30:33.440
now, you're about eight feet away from me. That's

00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.180
a standoff. I don't want... Like, if you're an

00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:38.670
aggressor... I want you to stay over there. Because

00:30:38.670 --> 00:30:40.109
as long as you're there, you're not going to

00:30:40.109 --> 00:30:41.529
hurt me. Yeah, and I can see what you're doing.

00:30:41.829 --> 00:30:43.529
And I can see your hands. I can see what you're

00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:45.630
doing. I can see the shift of your mass, your

00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:47.910
momentum. I can see your intention. I can watch

00:30:47.910 --> 00:30:51.170
your nonverbals. So we're good. We're good there.

00:30:51.309 --> 00:30:54.930
But as you get closer, the way I fight changes.

00:30:55.230 --> 00:30:57.369
Yes. Well, now you're going to come to the side,

00:30:57.430 --> 00:30:59.890
aren't you? Yeah, I'm going to blade. She just

00:30:59.890 --> 00:31:03.900
bladed. So anyway, the point is... That would

00:31:03.900 --> 00:31:06.460
be awful. I think it was a couple of weeks ago,

00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:08.420
there was this really big dude who was like six

00:31:08.420 --> 00:31:10.539
foot seven and he gets up and he has to restrain

00:31:10.539 --> 00:31:12.400
a passenger. And this was on the six o 'clock

00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.559
NBC News and this has gone viral, this video.

00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.160
And he just picked him up, put him down. And

00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.400
then when I was flying at British Airways, we

00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.200
had restraining straps and you literally put

00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.279
them in a straitjacket and just, have you ever

00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.339
done that? Have you ever insisted that someone's

00:31:27.339 --> 00:31:29.779
been strapped to their seat? I saw it a couple

00:31:29.779 --> 00:31:31.640
of times. I would say... And they needed it.

00:31:31.690 --> 00:31:34.869
This fucker was out of control. I've had people,

00:31:35.029 --> 00:31:38.309
you know, when you fly from New York City to

00:31:38.309 --> 00:31:41.890
West Palm Beach multiple times a day, you're

00:31:41.890 --> 00:31:46.730
going to get these sometimes not pleasant people.

00:31:46.970 --> 00:31:51.650
Why? Palm Beach is nice. I think it's a matter

00:31:51.650 --> 00:31:54.170
of entitlement. Like, they don't want to be told

00:31:54.170 --> 00:31:57.309
what to do, especially if you're a girl. Don't

00:31:57.309 --> 00:31:59.539
want authority. They don't want, they don't want

00:31:59.539 --> 00:32:03.079
people for, you know, they, a lot of times they

00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.759
think that I was the flight attendant and they

00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:07.500
would misbehave towards me. I'm like, that's

00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:09.759
so funny. It's like, that's such a bad idea because,

00:32:09.859 --> 00:32:12.099
and they'd say, and then somebody would tap and

00:32:12.099 --> 00:32:14.619
say, that's the captain. And then they become

00:32:14.619 --> 00:32:20.619
polite. It's not funny. It's like so sad. I had

00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:22.740
a lady in West Palm beach, like literally shove

00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:25.480
their bag. And she just. Put this up there and

00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.319
don't scratch it this time. Last time you scratched

00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.359
it. And the flight attendant was almost like

00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.839
so embarrassed. But did you think it was funny?

00:32:35.339 --> 00:32:37.519
It's one of those classic cases of, do you know

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.839
who I am, isn't it? No, I didn't say that. No,

00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:41.420
I'm not saying you said that, but it's a classic

00:32:41.420 --> 00:32:46.539
case of that. It's like she's... I asked a passenger

00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:49.339
once, that was when we smoked on the 747, which

00:32:49.339 --> 00:32:51.559
I still can't believe that we did that, and he

00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.099
didn't like the fact that I asked him, he stuck

00:32:53.099 --> 00:32:56.119
a cigarette in my ice bucket. Just put it out,

00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.279
hyper -aggressive. And then I told the captain

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.339
about it. I actually regret doing that, because

00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:02.940
the captain... him had him arrested and i thought

00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:04.940
on the ground and i thought that was way too

00:33:04.940 --> 00:33:07.200
much but that was kind of aggressive you won't

00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.839
do it again though you wouldn't do it again so

00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.359
i've had people there were two instances well

00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.240
there are multiple instances but i've had people

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.380
show up on my airplane oh first of all the lady

00:33:20.380 --> 00:33:24.539
that shoved her luggage to me i i just said i'm

00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:26.400
sorry your luggage was scratched and i put it

00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.119
up and walked away that was yes a lot of grace

00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.539
so But before I was even out of earshot, I could

00:33:32.539 --> 00:33:36.519
still hear her. The flight attendant told the

00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:40.500
lady, you just told the captain to put your bag

00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:42.980
up. Now the lady was like, oh, I'm so sorry.

00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.539
And then I looked at the lady and said, you shouldn't

00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:48.339
even be talking to my flight attendant that way.

00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:51.920
I said, there's no way to treat somebody. And

00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.230
she stood down. Because she was embarrassed.

00:33:55.549 --> 00:33:58.190
So just that experience probably changed her.

00:33:58.450 --> 00:34:00.289
There was another time I landed at West Palm

00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:06.029
Beach. Now, I'm the captain. I'm armed. Great

00:34:06.029 --> 00:34:08.469
flight, uneventful. It was late. We probably

00:34:08.469 --> 00:34:12.070
got in about 10 .30 at night. Everyone's getting

00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:14.070
off the plane. I'm greeting them. Hey, nice landing,

00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:16.389
Captain, all this stuff. Just normal stuff. Happy

00:34:16.389 --> 00:34:19.489
people going to West Palm Beach. And about midway

00:34:19.489 --> 00:34:22.670
through, as the passengers are disembarking,

00:34:23.469 --> 00:34:26.030
This one guy says, hey, cabin, great flight,

00:34:26.150 --> 00:34:31.690
except for that air marshal was an idiot. So

00:34:31.690 --> 00:34:35.210
now I'm sitting there going, air marshal, I'm

00:34:35.210 --> 00:34:38.010
the only person on board that's armed. If there

00:34:38.010 --> 00:34:39.969
were air marshals on board, they were supposed

00:34:39.969 --> 00:34:41.789
to report to me. Yeah, and you should have known.

00:34:41.809 --> 00:34:44.789
So now I'm thinking, okay, who's the air marshal

00:34:44.789 --> 00:34:46.889
on board? That I don't know about. That I don't

00:34:46.889 --> 00:34:49.429
know about. So I said, wait, wait, wait, because

00:34:49.429 --> 00:34:51.130
there was like two or three people saying that

00:34:51.130 --> 00:34:53.719
air marshal was an idiot. And I'm like, wait

00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.639
a minute, something's wrong with this. So I told

00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:58.239
the first officer, I said, okay, you got the

00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.300
flight deck. I got to find out what's going on

00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:02.739
here. So we're on the ground, we're parked. There

00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:07.099
was no emergency, but I had to find out. So this

00:35:07.099 --> 00:35:10.099
one guy says, yeah, they had a marshal. I said,

00:35:10.139 --> 00:35:13.239
who was the air marshal? Point to him. And he

00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.340
pointed up, like up the jet bridge. I said, which

00:35:16.340 --> 00:35:19.739
guy? Come identify the guy. And it was just some

00:35:19.739 --> 00:35:23.849
guy, right? It looked athletic type of dude.

00:35:23.969 --> 00:35:27.550
Right. So he was way up there and I was trying

00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:29.110
to catch up with him. I said, come with me, come

00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:31.269
with me. And I told the station manager was at

00:35:31.269 --> 00:35:34.570
the gate. I said, send security. Oh, I said,

00:35:34.590 --> 00:35:37.710
follow me. And I told the gate agent, I said,

00:35:37.730 --> 00:35:39.809
send security, follow me. I'm going to baggage.

00:35:40.369 --> 00:35:42.670
Right. So I didn't know if I was going to baggage,

00:35:42.730 --> 00:35:45.610
but I said, just follow me. By the time he got

00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:49.889
to baggage, I was right behind him. And we had

00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:53.820
six people there. We had the plainclothes. So

00:35:53.820 --> 00:35:57.460
who was this dude? We had the plainclothes FBI

00:35:57.460 --> 00:36:01.039
guy. We had the plainclothes TSA guy. And we

00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.579
had two TSA guys. And this happened in five minutes.

00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:05.460
Oh, I love it. I mean, that's very dramatic.

00:36:05.820 --> 00:36:08.260
So the question is, who is this guy? Yeah. Who

00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:10.179
was this guy? Yeah, was he just some regular

00:36:10.179 --> 00:36:12.800
guy claiming to be something as a joke? Well,

00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.500
evidently he flashed his badge. And he was an

00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:19.300
air marshal? No. What was he? He was some podunk.

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.380
Country boy, off -duty. So he flashed his badge

00:36:23.380 --> 00:36:26.059
and then played the role as an air marshal. Off

00:36:26.059 --> 00:36:29.059
-duty sheriff. Oh, he wasn't. Right? Okay, so

00:36:29.059 --> 00:36:33.659
watch what happens here. He was so busted. I

00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:37.760
also feel sorry for the guy. So now we have two

00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.380
witnesses who heard him say everything. We have

00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:44.119
a ring of people around him. It's not even, this

00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.420
poor guy, but you don't get to do that. No, you

00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:48.719
don't. He just thought he was having fun. He

00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.159
can get away. He was a bit of a dick, right?

00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.900
And all of a sudden, you have now, five minutes

00:36:52.900 --> 00:36:55.300
later, there's serious consequences for you doing

00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:57.119
that. Yeah, so what happened was this, and just

00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.199
to play it through, he's looking at me because

00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.280
he doesn't know who I am. I said, I was the captain

00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.639
on your airplane. I have the only weapon on board.

00:37:08.659 --> 00:37:13.070
And you said you're an FFDO. Is that true? Oh,

00:37:13.130 --> 00:37:14.769
I never said that. And two people said, yeah,

00:37:14.809 --> 00:37:17.190
you did. We got it. We have a bunch of people

00:37:17.190 --> 00:37:20.190
heard you say that. And I said, did you not say

00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:21.849
you were an FFDO? He says, yeah, but I'm not.

00:37:22.309 --> 00:37:24.650
And he starts. And as soon as he said that, I

00:37:24.650 --> 00:37:27.210
said, I looked at the TSA plane close guy and

00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:30.750
I said, did you hear what he just said? And then

00:37:30.750 --> 00:37:33.690
I said, y 'all have everything you've, I told

00:37:33.690 --> 00:37:36.989
the, I told the FBI guy, I said, you've got this.

00:37:37.269 --> 00:37:38.969
I'm on my plane. If you need me, I need to buy

00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:42.369
the airplane. Yeah. here's the witnesses, this

00:37:42.369 --> 00:37:45.050
is the guy. And then I heard the guy, as I was

00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:47.530
leaving, it's like, show me your ID. And he explained,

00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:49.869
that's where I heard he was an off -duty sheriff.

00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:52.550
So I don't know what happened. What do you think

00:37:52.550 --> 00:37:55.949
happened to him? Well, I don't know. I don't

00:37:55.949 --> 00:37:59.920
know. It was an incident. Do you think whoever

00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:02.320
was in charge, whoever had the final decisions,

00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.260
just gave him, you know, ripped him a new one

00:38:05.260 --> 00:38:08.460
and said, OK, don't ever do that again? Or was

00:38:08.460 --> 00:38:12.579
he taken away and in custody? Impersonating an

00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:14.739
air marshal must be quite a high... That must

00:38:14.739 --> 00:38:16.559
be a big deal. And that's what I told him in

00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:18.940
front of the whole ring of people. I wonder whether

00:38:18.940 --> 00:38:21.420
someone just said, you know, you really never

00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:23.699
need to be doing that again. Look how bad this

00:38:23.699 --> 00:38:25.920
got for you. And that would have changed his

00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.559
life. He could have lost his career. Yeah. He

00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.139
literally could have been thrown in jail for

00:38:31.139 --> 00:38:32.619
that. Yeah, that could have gone really, really

00:38:32.619 --> 00:38:35.280
badly. That's a federal offense, impersonating

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.460
an air marshal. So I can't tell you why I knew

00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:41.940
he was fake. I can't tell you. I'll tell you

00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:44.260
off the mic. But there was one thing that was

00:38:44.260 --> 00:38:50.340
said that would never be said, but it was said,

00:38:50.340 --> 00:38:52.519
and I knew immediately he was not an air marshal.

00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.380
Yeah. Not even meeting him, but just from what

00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:58.429
the people said. Yeah. And what was your intention?

00:39:00.550 --> 00:39:03.150
I mean, why did you immobilize everyone and come

00:39:03.150 --> 00:39:07.269
so down on him? So what was going on with you?

00:39:07.429 --> 00:39:08.690
Well, first of all, I didn't know who he was.

00:39:09.130 --> 00:39:11.369
Right. And this is now a breach of security.

00:39:12.409 --> 00:39:15.349
Look, first of all, if he's claiming to be an

00:39:15.349 --> 00:39:17.670
air marshal, he breached a protocol because he

00:39:17.670 --> 00:39:19.389
was supposed to report in and tell me that he

00:39:19.389 --> 00:39:20.550
had a weapon. Yeah, and you should have known

00:39:20.550 --> 00:39:21.789
he was on board. I should have known he was on

00:39:21.789 --> 00:39:24.230
board. That's a breach of protocol. He needed

00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:27.260
to report to me and he didn't. So right off the

00:39:27.260 --> 00:39:28.940
shoot, I need to know who this guy is. So right

00:39:28.940 --> 00:39:31.340
out the gate, you must have known he wasn't then

00:39:31.340 --> 00:39:33.480
because he would have reported to you. I mean,

00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.039
you must have suspected this guy's a clown. Well,

00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.880
I'll tell you off the air why I knew. And when

00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.780
I tell you, you're going to laugh, just like

00:39:42.780 --> 00:39:45.719
you're laughing now. But it's absolutely simple.

00:39:45.860 --> 00:39:47.900
It's very brilliant. And as soon as you know

00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:51.079
the answer, you'll say, that makes all the sense

00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:55.739
in the world. Why I knew. He was not. I'm sorry

00:39:55.739 --> 00:39:58.280
to everyone listening. I'm not trying to be cryptic.

00:39:58.300 --> 00:40:01.340
Okay, well, let's just go back to what your intention

00:40:01.340 --> 00:40:02.539
was. I'm not allowed to tell. You knew that he

00:40:02.539 --> 00:40:05.260
wasn't an air marshal for whatever reason, but

00:40:05.260 --> 00:40:08.480
you still decided I'm coming for you and I'm

00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:10.880
going to immobilize everyone and I'm going to

00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:12.980
have you standing in front of me and you're going

00:40:12.980 --> 00:40:15.400
to admit that you've been lying, which is basically

00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.460
what it got down to. And your intention was to

00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:22.960
do what? That you'll never do this again? You

00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:26.000
haven't reported to me. You're lying. I mean,

00:40:26.099 --> 00:40:28.099
that's... Well, no, my thinking was different

00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:32.780
because I was not looking for retribution. There

00:40:32.780 --> 00:40:36.460
was what I would consider foul play on my airplane.

00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.340
This is not about what's going into the future.

00:40:39.579 --> 00:40:42.840
This is about saying there was foul play here.

00:40:42.940 --> 00:40:45.179
If this person's going to misbehave on my airplane,

00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:49.110
he's going to do it again. So the guy that reported

00:40:49.110 --> 00:40:51.650
him and say, oh, nice flight, Captain, but that

00:40:51.650 --> 00:40:54.070
Air Marshal sure is a jerk. If he hadn't have

00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:55.769
said that, that guy would have got away with

00:40:55.769 --> 00:40:58.230
it. Well, I mean, there was like three people

00:40:58.230 --> 00:40:59.769
in a row that said... What had he been doing

00:40:59.769 --> 00:41:01.949
to them, do you know? Well, some woman was like,

00:41:02.909 --> 00:41:05.590
it's West Palm Beach. There's going to be people

00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:09.010
who's like, I can't believe you don't have real

00:41:09.010 --> 00:41:11.880
lemon. What's this powdered lemon in my... Oh,

00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:14.420
so little divas. Just these little things that

00:41:14.420 --> 00:41:17.079
piss people off. And when you're in close proximity

00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:21.199
to other idiots, I said idiots twice. I said

00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.460
idiots twice in a row on this podcast. I never

00:41:23.460 --> 00:41:27.519
used the word idiot. Forgive me, Father. When

00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.239
these people are misbehaving and they're in close

00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.039
proximity to each other, they're going to tee

00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.860
off. Yeah. So this woman was being a jerk. He's

00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:38.320
being a jerk and he turns around and he's reading

00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.739
this lady, the riot act. Yeah, he's now pretending.

00:41:40.739 --> 00:41:43.360
And she's being an idiot back. So that's evidently

00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.099
what happened. It escalated. So he really took

00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:48.079
it to the limit and pretended to be an air marshal.

00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.780
That is so hilarious. I don't think he'd ever

00:41:50.780 --> 00:41:53.219
do that again. Well, I don't know. He would have

00:41:53.219 --> 00:41:54.920
learned his lesson. We don't know. He might have

00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.440
lost his career. Or someone said to him, listen,

00:41:57.539 --> 00:41:59.139
you clown, don't ever do that again. And they

00:41:59.139 --> 00:42:01.519
let him off the hook. Yeah, but, you know, just

00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:03.460
because you have a badge doesn't mean you get

00:42:03.460 --> 00:42:05.889
to. Be on my airplane and be stupid. Well, mimic

00:42:05.889 --> 00:42:08.389
someone, yeah. Or pretend you're to be somebody

00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:11.969
you're not. They picked the wrong girl that day.

00:42:12.110 --> 00:42:15.449
It's not the right thing to do, right? But there's

00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:19.250
been other times flying where, like taking off

00:42:19.250 --> 00:42:21.789
out of, I think it was in Newark, coming south,

00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:25.650
and there was a person that was belligerent getting

00:42:25.650 --> 00:42:28.130
on the airplane, belligerent while everyone was

00:42:28.130 --> 00:42:30.429
getting seated, belligerent towards my flight

00:42:30.429 --> 00:42:33.320
attendants. And the flight attendant, number

00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.300
two, pinged me, said that there's a person being

00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:40.460
an idiot. There's three times I said idiot on

00:42:40.460 --> 00:42:43.539
the scene. I can't believe it. But it's true.

00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.019
There's something about people flying airplanes.

00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:49.619
They lose track of the beautiful thing that I'm

00:42:49.619 --> 00:42:51.860
going to be six miles high. But aren't they also

00:42:51.860 --> 00:42:54.940
breathing in like 12 ,000 feet? I mean, the oxygen

00:42:54.940 --> 00:42:56.800
is not very good on a plane, is it? What's it

00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.059
pressurized at? What's a normal flight pressurized

00:42:59.059 --> 00:43:01.039
at? It's like being up a fucking mountain. You're

00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.920
drinking alcohol. You don't like being on a plane.

00:43:03.940 --> 00:43:06.099
You're in a metal tube and it's an intense environment.

00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.500
Yeah, it just depends on your altitude. It's

00:43:08.500 --> 00:43:11.570
a differential pressure. between what's inside.

00:43:11.809 --> 00:43:14.610
So if it's 39 ,000 feet, it's a cruising altitude.

00:43:14.929 --> 00:43:17.070
Your cabin's going to be pressurized at what?

00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:19.269
About 8 ,000 feet. So that's pretty high. That's

00:43:19.269 --> 00:43:21.650
like, you know, we were talking about being on

00:43:21.650 --> 00:43:24.630
a high altitude in Colorado. That's a lot. You

00:43:24.630 --> 00:43:27.329
don't have much oxygen. So you might not be reacting

00:43:27.329 --> 00:43:28.449
in the way that you need to. Yeah, so if you

00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:30.429
have one drink, if you have a person that's being

00:43:30.429 --> 00:43:33.429
belligerent, say they've had two drinks in the

00:43:33.429 --> 00:43:37.269
terminal and you're going to 39 ,000 feet, those

00:43:37.269 --> 00:43:39.650
two drinks are going to be the same as four drinks.

00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:42.230
When you're at 8 ,000 feet? Yeah. When the cabin

00:43:42.230 --> 00:43:44.590
pressure's at 8 ,000 feet, or 7 ,000 or 8 ,000

00:43:44.590 --> 00:43:47.610
feet. It depends on the PSID of the pressure

00:43:47.610 --> 00:43:50.070
differential of the airplane. When I was a flight

00:43:50.070 --> 00:43:52.329
attendant, we were in zones, and it was my first

00:43:52.329 --> 00:43:55.070
year. And at British Airways, you didn't buy

00:43:55.070 --> 00:43:57.449
any alcohol. It came in little bottles, and it

00:43:57.449 --> 00:43:59.710
came in little cans, and you just gave it away.

00:43:59.769 --> 00:44:02.110
It was all part of the ticket. And I'd get my

00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:04.769
passengers absolutely sloshed, because then they

00:44:04.769 --> 00:44:08.659
would sleep for the rest of the day. You built.

00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.280
You're feeding the dragon. Not the dragon. You're

00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.739
feeding the demon. I was only 21, though. So

00:44:15.739 --> 00:44:18.179
I had this guy out of Newark. And right before

00:44:18.179 --> 00:44:21.360
we even pushed off the gate, this guy was being,

00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.960
he was misbehaving. I didn't say it a fourth

00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.280
time. He was misbehaving. So I literally walked

00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.019
back to him. He was about midway down the cabin.

00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.139
I looked at him dead in the eye and said, I'm

00:44:32.139 --> 00:44:34.960
the captain. You're misbehaving. I literally

00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.480
said that. You're misbehaving. You're not following

00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:41.119
instructions. You can either take this flight

00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.019
and behave yourself or you can get off this plane

00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:47.420
and take the next flight. But if we get airborne...

00:44:47.420 --> 00:44:48.480
It's nice that you gave them a choice. I said,

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.539
if we get airborne and I have any reports of

00:44:51.539 --> 00:44:54.699
you behaving like you're behaving, I will have

00:44:54.699 --> 00:44:58.019
security ready to meet you. And you'll be arrested.

00:44:58.019 --> 00:45:01.210
And I said, I'm happy either way. I'm happy.

00:45:01.269 --> 00:45:02.489
It's going to be a great flight. And did you

00:45:02.489 --> 00:45:04.489
speak very calmly just like you are now? Oh,

00:45:04.489 --> 00:45:07.130
I always speak calmly. So what did he say then?

00:45:07.329 --> 00:45:09.670
He said, Captain, we're good. We're good. Oh,

00:45:09.670 --> 00:45:12.130
good. We're good. That's good. I don't know what

00:45:12.130 --> 00:45:13.889
his deal is, but you're not going to, I told

00:45:13.889 --> 00:45:16.130
him, you're not going to misbehave. You're not

00:45:16.130 --> 00:45:17.690
going to talk to my flight attendant that way.

00:45:17.750 --> 00:45:20.130
I'm just, it's not going to happen. So you were

00:45:20.130 --> 00:45:21.769
like this captain that had this guy arrested

00:45:21.769 --> 00:45:23.889
when he put his cigarette out my ice bucket because

00:45:23.889 --> 00:45:26.769
we had to all sit there, no passengers left off.

00:45:26.889 --> 00:45:29.389
This was in South Africa and they all came or

00:45:29.389 --> 00:45:31.070
he had to be walked up and they came and arrested

00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:33.489
him. And it was awful because he stared at me

00:45:33.489 --> 00:45:35.590
and I think he thought that I was the one that

00:45:35.590 --> 00:45:38.710
did it. And I kind of regretted telling him,

00:45:38.769 --> 00:45:40.929
the captain was a friend of mine, I kind of regretted

00:45:40.929 --> 00:45:43.590
telling him because I just thought that was...

00:45:45.249 --> 00:45:47.050
I mean, it's pretty egregious that you're going

00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:48.849
to stick your cig in the ice bucket, right? That's

00:45:48.849 --> 00:45:50.789
not good. But other than that, he'd been fine.

00:45:51.389 --> 00:45:54.070
But the captain was like, fuck that. No, you're

00:45:54.070 --> 00:45:56.070
not doing that. When I was briefing, when I was

00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:57.909
doing my crew brief, because every time you have

00:45:57.909 --> 00:46:00.230
a new crew member or a new crew, you do a new

00:46:00.230 --> 00:46:02.110
crew briefing. It's just part of the protocol.

00:46:02.690 --> 00:46:04.809
And so when I had new flight attendants, I would

00:46:04.809 --> 00:46:09.610
brief them that I am your advocate. If somebody

00:46:09.610 --> 00:46:11.369
is treating you, if they're mistreating you or

00:46:11.369 --> 00:46:15.480
something's not right with you. I will help you,

00:46:15.539 --> 00:46:18.699
but you have to do everything that you can do

00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:22.519
first. I don't want to know if somebody spilled

00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.219
something on your skirt. I don't care. That's

00:46:25.219 --> 00:46:27.639
what you get paid to do. But if there's something

00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:33.719
where they're misbehaving and it's beyond what

00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:37.050
you can handle, I want to know about it. And

00:46:37.050 --> 00:46:39.510
they appreciated that. So many flight attendants

00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:42.710
say thank you. Yeah, I don't remember any captains

00:46:42.710 --> 00:46:44.469
ever coming to say that. I mean, it was implicit,

00:46:44.690 --> 00:46:46.710
I think. I think you knew they'd have your back.

00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:50.829
Maybe with British air, but in America, there's

00:46:50.829 --> 00:46:53.650
a lot of captains who say, you know, sucks to

00:46:53.650 --> 00:46:56.659
be you, that's your job, just deal with it. And

00:46:56.659 --> 00:46:59.179
sadly, there's a lot of captains that way. I'm

00:46:59.179 --> 00:47:01.219
not that way. Even in the military when I was

00:47:01.219 --> 00:47:03.380
flying. So your flight attendants must have liked

00:47:03.380 --> 00:47:05.380
flying with you. Oh, they loved it. They always,

00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:09.139
they could find like what schedule I'm on and

00:47:09.139 --> 00:47:10.980
they always, a lot of crews like flying with

00:47:10.980 --> 00:47:13.639
me because number one. You're funny and fair.

00:47:14.300 --> 00:47:19.019
Well, plus they like flying with FFDOs is big.

00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.019
Like knowing that this plane is safe. That's

00:47:23.019 --> 00:47:27.230
a really big deal, right? Yeah. So. So the other

00:47:27.230 --> 00:47:29.610
cool thing that happened at this meeting, the

00:47:29.610 --> 00:47:32.849
Thursday night, it was on the lake. When the

00:47:32.849 --> 00:47:34.710
girl got the fish hook in her neck. So, yeah.

00:47:34.969 --> 00:47:37.650
So after the fish hook in the neck, God, we never

00:47:37.650 --> 00:47:39.110
know what we're going to talk about. No, we don't.

00:47:39.110 --> 00:47:40.949
But good for you, though. I'm glad that you ran

00:47:40.949 --> 00:47:42.710
around there and did that and found out because

00:47:42.710 --> 00:47:45.349
we need people to do that. So I go back there

00:47:45.349 --> 00:47:46.750
and they're all buttoning up and they're putting

00:47:46.750 --> 00:47:50.130
away their whiteboard. And everyone's just visiting.

00:47:50.230 --> 00:47:51.909
It was a really beautiful night. It was almost

00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:55.050
like. what you would vision you know dancing

00:47:55.050 --> 00:47:57.210
in the moonlight right and it wasn't too hot

00:47:57.210 --> 00:48:00.190
no it was so beautiful it was tropical there

00:48:00.190 --> 00:48:03.570
was no mosquitoes it was just there was a little

00:48:03.570 --> 00:48:07.110
light clouds beautiful lit from the moon it was

00:48:07.110 --> 00:48:09.929
just so beautiful and it was just a bunch of

00:48:09.929 --> 00:48:12.349
cool people talking about permaculture just hanging

00:48:12.349 --> 00:48:15.849
out so we made friends with this one couple it

00:48:15.849 --> 00:48:19.489
turns out he's a former pilot from orlando but

00:48:19.489 --> 00:48:23.900
his private pilot he flew the same airplane actually

00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:26.500
it's a newer version of the same airplane i flew

00:48:26.500 --> 00:48:29.860
when i was a czech airman oh for corporate i

00:48:29.860 --> 00:48:32.900
flew corporate airplanes and he flew the same

00:48:32.900 --> 00:48:34.980
airplane so we're instantly talking the same

00:48:34.980 --> 00:48:39.559
language thing is it was a part 91 which means

00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.150
um Part 91 is where you're flying for a private

00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:45.929
family. Yes, and part 21 is commercial. Part

00:48:45.929 --> 00:48:49.510
121 is commercial. Part 135 means you're like

00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.050
at the Uber, like you're flying for hire. Well,

00:48:52.409 --> 00:48:55.690
this is part 91. And I said, oh my goodness,

00:48:55.789 --> 00:48:57.429
you were flying this airplane and we're talking.

00:48:57.590 --> 00:48:59.389
And I said, so how's it going for you? He says,

00:48:59.469 --> 00:49:02.690
well, I had a heart attack last year and I can't

00:49:02.690 --> 00:49:07.109
fly now because I'm on the meds. I'm like. How

00:49:07.109 --> 00:49:09.429
old was he? Do you want to fly? Like, he's just

00:49:09.429 --> 00:49:11.150
a few years older than me. He's probably 67.

00:49:12.429 --> 00:49:15.630
Okay. So to me, that's not old. But when are

00:49:15.630 --> 00:49:17.289
they grounded? When are pilots grounded? You

00:49:17.289 --> 00:49:19.150
can go on forever, can you? Part 91, you can

00:49:19.150 --> 00:49:22.909
go. 91, okay. Part 91, you can go. I don't know

00:49:22.909 --> 00:49:26.130
what the rules are. So what did he say when you

00:49:26.130 --> 00:49:30.329
asked him that? Was he overweight? No, he was

00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:32.570
in good condition. Wow. Yeah, so I didn't ask

00:49:32.570 --> 00:49:34.989
him. I didn't interview him. But I always put

00:49:34.989 --> 00:49:36.590
the offer out there. If you want to get your

00:49:36.590 --> 00:49:39.130
license back, I'll help you. And he's like, well,

00:49:39.210 --> 00:49:42.289
who are you? And I told him who I was. I'm a

00:49:42.289 --> 00:49:45.929
holistic doctor that's also got seven type ratings,

00:49:46.010 --> 00:49:47.449
and I know how to do this stuff. And I know how

00:49:47.449 --> 00:49:49.909
the body works. I know how your body works. And

00:49:49.909 --> 00:49:51.949
I said, if you're interested in getting your

00:49:51.949 --> 00:49:55.409
Part 91 gig back, let me know. And he says, well,

00:49:55.530 --> 00:49:58.210
that's a season that's passed and all this. And

00:49:58.210 --> 00:50:02.110
I'm like. Who's flying the airplane? He says,

00:50:02.170 --> 00:50:03.289
well, I don't know. I think they're still looking

00:50:03.289 --> 00:50:08.610
for a pilot. I'm like. I said, ask them if they

00:50:08.610 --> 00:50:10.889
want a former Czech airman in this airplane.

00:50:11.150 --> 00:50:13.110
So you'd go in and do that again? If the money

00:50:13.110 --> 00:50:15.969
is right. Yeah, I guess so. But how many take

00:50:15.969 --> 00:50:17.289
-off and landings would you have? You'd have

00:50:17.289 --> 00:50:19.630
to get retrained, wouldn't you? Girl, I could

00:50:19.630 --> 00:50:20.989
fly that plane in my sleep. Oh, I'm not saying

00:50:20.989 --> 00:50:24.909
you couldn't, but for part 191, you can just

00:50:24.909 --> 00:50:27.630
get in and get airborne? Part 91? No, you still

00:50:27.630 --> 00:50:30.030
have to fulfill the insurance requirements. Yeah,

00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:32.230
but you'd have to do your medical, and then you'd

00:50:32.230 --> 00:50:33.929
have to do a couple of take -offs and landings,

00:50:33.929 --> 00:50:36.469
and then you'd do it? Yeah, if I wanted to do

00:50:36.469 --> 00:50:39.159
that. I would have to pass a medical. Yeah. So

00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.000
I'd go get my medical. Then I would get retrained

00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.539
in that airframe, which would be super easy to

00:50:44.539 --> 00:50:46.420
do because I used to teach it. Yes, I'd just

00:50:46.420 --> 00:50:49.159
be muscle man. I just got to get the – but then

00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.599
– You sound kind of excited. Would you like –

00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.820
do you miss flying? Oh, I totally do. Because

00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:56.019
my husband doesn't fly anymore, and he misses

00:50:56.019 --> 00:50:57.719
the takeoff and land. He doesn't miss all the

00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:59.780
bullshit, but the takeoff and land, it's like

00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:01.420
a video game for you. Well, he asked me, he says,

00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.179
well, why don't you go back to JetBlue and fly?

00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.159
And I said, well, I have personal reasons for

00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:12.579
that. But one of the reasons is that as pilots,

00:51:12.659 --> 00:51:16.639
we love to fly airplanes. But flying for a corporation,

00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.440
especially a big corporation like an airline,

00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.900
literally sucks the joy out of flying. It's not

00:51:23.900 --> 00:51:26.880
the same experience. Well, just because the endless

00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:29.500
procedures. Because it's a job. It's a career.

00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:34.500
It's a job. And even with JetBlue. They would

00:51:34.500 --> 00:51:36.420
fly the airplane. They would have these protocols

00:51:36.420 --> 00:51:39.800
and these processes and stuff that even the manufacturer,

00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.639
like Airbus, Airbus would have these procedures,

00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:45.280
which they're the manufacturer of the airplane.

00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.960
So here's the procedures. And JetBlue would buy

00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.099
us. They would say, well, yeah, we recognize

00:51:52.099 --> 00:51:54.280
that's what the manufacturer says is the best

00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.500
way to fly the airplane, but we're going to change

00:51:56.500 --> 00:51:59.039
this and this and this because somebody's smarter

00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.940
than the manufacturer. I don't know. But to me,

00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:07.039
those are stupid things. So for me, flying, just

00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.059
like anything. But if you had your own plane

00:52:09.059 --> 00:52:11.719
out there, you would just enjoy it and you'd

00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:13.940
do it a lot. Totally. And that's what a Part

00:52:13.940 --> 00:52:16.219
91 gig would be. Because I told Robin after that,

00:52:16.300 --> 00:52:17.980
I'm like, you know. We need a really good aircraft

00:52:17.980 --> 00:52:21.260
simulator up here in the studio. I can't do simulators.

00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:25.119
No. There's nothing realistic. No. If it was

00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.239
like a virtual reality, it's not a simulator.

00:52:27.380 --> 00:52:30.099
No. No, it's nothing like being up there and

00:52:30.099 --> 00:52:32.099
knowing that you could die at any moment if you

00:52:32.099 --> 00:52:35.280
fuck up. If you're going to flame, you know,

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.719
set my engine on fire, I'll take the simulator.

00:52:37.980 --> 00:52:39.940
All right? If you're going to give me wins here,

00:52:40.019 --> 00:52:41.539
I'll take the simulator. Okay? If you're going

00:52:41.539 --> 00:52:44.320
to give me cross wins out of limits or something,

00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:48.260
I'll take the simulator. But to answer your question,

00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:53.460
the Part 91 gig, if it's with the correct family,

00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:56.940
could be wonderful. Could be. Because the way

00:52:56.940 --> 00:52:59.590
it works is... Like, let's just pretend that...

00:52:59.590 --> 00:53:01.750
Well, you just show up at a private airport.

00:53:01.869 --> 00:53:03.570
You meet them. There's none of all that paperwork,

00:53:03.690 --> 00:53:05.710
passengers bullshit they get on. They might be

00:53:05.710 --> 00:53:08.889
indifferent about you. And you just land. Basically,

00:53:08.949 --> 00:53:11.809
you're a favorite Uber driver. Yes, that's it.

00:53:11.829 --> 00:53:16.030
But your Uber does 0 .85 Mach. Yeah. And then

00:53:16.030 --> 00:53:18.949
you park the Uber on the tarmac. You don't have

00:53:18.949 --> 00:53:21.469
to deal with anyone. You park it. You give the

00:53:21.469 --> 00:53:24.590
FBO, which is the fixed base operator, you give

00:53:24.590 --> 00:53:27.059
them the keys to the airplane. I'll see you tomorrow.

00:53:27.300 --> 00:53:29.900
And they're going to have it cleaned and loaded

00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:33.320
and everything. You show up an hour prior, you

00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:35.059
put out the ice cubes, you do all your stuff.

00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:37.860
Family shows up, you take them off. But in the

00:53:37.860 --> 00:53:40.639
meantime... Does it pay well? They're all different.

00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.980
If you find the correct part 91 gig and the family

00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:46.579
loves you, you're like a family member to them.

00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:49.280
Yes, I could see that being like that. I remember

00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:53.179
flying to Bermuda once. At the time, I was a

00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:55.139
first officer, but no, I was the co -captain

00:53:55.139 --> 00:53:57.889
because I had just upgraded. But on this flight,

00:53:57.949 --> 00:53:59.550
I wasn't the captain in charge. I was the co

00:53:59.550 --> 00:54:02.349
-captain. So we ended up, we were supposed to

00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:07.610
go to Bermuda. No, no, it wasn't Bermuda. It

00:54:07.610 --> 00:54:11.750
was, there's a place in the Bahamas. I forget

00:54:11.750 --> 00:54:14.550
the name of it, but it's like this huge open

00:54:14.550 --> 00:54:17.949
aquarium. And it's like the Atlantis or whatever.

00:54:18.130 --> 00:54:19.849
It's just like this huge, I forget what it's

00:54:19.849 --> 00:54:23.760
called. Atlantis is in the Bahamas. Is there

00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.099
a place called Atlantis? Oh, yes. It's a huge

00:54:26.099 --> 00:54:28.579
hotel. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, massive hotel.

00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.119
Yeah, so that was it. It's a big aquarium when

00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.440
you walk in. Yeah, yeah. And they had like little

00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.519
sharks in there and stuff. Oh, yeah. But I've

00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.059
been there, so it's been 25 years since I've

00:54:38.059 --> 00:54:39.840
been there. It was just pretty new when I went,

00:54:39.940 --> 00:54:41.760
but... Yeah, I remember taking it back 20 years

00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:42.960
ago. I took the kids there. It was probably 20

00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:47.480
years ago. So there was this couple, the two

00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:49.400
ladies are a couple and they're freaking rich

00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.210
and they're... And so... The two of us flew the

00:54:53.210 --> 00:54:55.610
two of them there. And we're only supposed to

00:54:55.610 --> 00:54:58.949
be there for a couple of days. And then I was

00:54:58.949 --> 00:55:01.670
supposed to go back. Actually, Robin had an interview

00:55:01.670 --> 00:55:03.730
back in the day. She had an interview, so I was

00:55:03.730 --> 00:55:06.590
supposed to be back. And we ended up staying

00:55:06.590 --> 00:55:10.329
two more days because they wanted to stay two

00:55:10.329 --> 00:55:13.550
more days. And they could pay us. So we literally

00:55:13.550 --> 00:55:16.130
sat there. Had a vacation. And it was a paid

00:55:16.130 --> 00:55:18.829
-for vacation. The airplane was parked. They

00:55:18.829 --> 00:55:21.500
were paying for a parked airplane. and it was

00:55:21.500 --> 00:55:24.159
not cheap it was like whatever five or seven

00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:27.000
thousand dollars a day just to park the airplane

00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.039
so we'd be and then the two pilots would be there

00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.019
when they're ready to go so it's like literally

00:55:32.019 --> 00:55:35.179
like an uber but if you have the correct air

00:55:35.179 --> 00:55:37.719
like the correct situation like if i had a family

00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.360
that sounds like the plum job oh yeah because

00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:44.139
i told robin if i could fly like five days a

00:55:44.139 --> 00:55:47.869
month yeah Just five days a month, especially

00:55:47.869 --> 00:55:49.829
if they're going to Costa Rica, staying at a

00:55:49.829 --> 00:55:53.769
five -star place, or they're going to some...

00:55:53.769 --> 00:55:55.389
Because most of those people, they don't stay

00:55:55.389 --> 00:55:59.570
at the Motel 6, right? Yes. And they end up putting

00:55:59.570 --> 00:56:02.250
the air crew up wherever they are. Yes. So if

00:56:02.250 --> 00:56:05.139
they're staying at this... this exquisite location.

00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.480
Well, it wouldn't be like work. It would be like

00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.800
a vacation. That's the point. And you're a pilot,

00:56:10.940 --> 00:56:13.460
a trained pilot, a massive amount of hours. I

00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:14.960
mean, it would just be, it wouldn't be a job.

00:56:14.980 --> 00:56:16.860
That's my point. So if you have the right thing.

00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:19.099
So pursue it. So see if this guy's contact that

00:56:19.099 --> 00:56:20.920
you met at Lake David, you never know. Well,

00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:23.340
I told Rob and I said, the prime thing would

00:56:23.340 --> 00:56:26.940
be this. If this guy can't be the pilot in command

00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:30.400
because of his medical, but I can get him a medical

00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:33.610
license so he can be my first officer. I could

00:56:33.610 --> 00:56:35.829
literally go in there. This guy knows the job

00:56:35.829 --> 00:56:40.570
already. He and I could fly. Fly the family.

00:56:40.710 --> 00:56:43.550
They love him already. I'm a placeholder. I'm

00:56:43.550 --> 00:56:46.070
the captain. I'm in charge. But this guy knows

00:56:46.070 --> 00:56:50.139
everything. We just go fly, have fun. i think

00:56:50.139 --> 00:56:52.619
that's gone a few days just come back that's

00:56:52.619 --> 00:56:54.800
great this way so what happened on the lake that

00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.639
night there's a possible reality yeah i mean

00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.840
the best airplane you can fly is somebody else

00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.119
somebody else is in there paying the gas yeah

00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.340
i mean that's the best airplane is somebody else's

00:57:05.340 --> 00:57:08.300
airplane if they're paying for it so but uh anyway

00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:10.860
god we talked all about flying today but Flying

00:57:10.860 --> 00:57:12.099
and fighting. What else is there? Flying and

00:57:12.099 --> 00:57:15.199
fighting. What's another F? I'm not going to

00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.539
say it. Flying and fighting. That's it for me.

00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:33.199
Food. Food. There's no ING on it, though. Fooding.

00:57:34.699 --> 00:57:38.460
Okay, there's that. So anyway. Well, this has

00:57:38.460 --> 00:57:41.659
been lovely. We didn't even touch the stuff.

00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:43.880
No, but that's okay. I'll get into it next week.

00:57:43.980 --> 00:57:46.280
I've got a couple of updates, and so we'll keep

00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.380
working on that. But that's my catechism that

00:57:48.380 --> 00:57:51.280
you're talking about. Okay, well, for those people

00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.719
who missed last week, just in a nutshell, what

00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:56.480
is the catechism? So the catechism is a series

00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.260
of questions and answers about the nature of

00:57:58.260 --> 00:58:00.320
reality, and I want it to be airtight, that if

00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.480
someone were to read this, they would have no

00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:06.099
questions about who they are, who God is, what

00:58:06.099 --> 00:58:08.869
God requires. and where you're going. So it has

00:58:08.869 --> 00:58:10.710
to be an airtight system. So that's what I've

00:58:10.710 --> 00:58:12.690
been busy writing. I was doing that at 3 o 'clock

00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:15.190
this morning. So that's what I'm going to be

00:58:15.190 --> 00:58:17.389
reading out. I woke up at 3 .13 this morning.

00:58:17.469 --> 00:58:21.269
Did you go outside? Oh, no, no, no, no. 3 .13

00:58:21.269 --> 00:58:23.710
in the morning is prime time for me because I

00:58:23.710 --> 00:58:26.610
get my water, I use the restroom. I don't put

00:58:26.610 --> 00:58:30.449
many lights on. I fluff my pillow. I might listen

00:58:30.449 --> 00:58:32.610
to something but keep my eyes closed. Yes, I

00:58:32.610 --> 00:58:35.429
do that. Because that's prime time for lucidity

00:58:35.429 --> 00:58:38.239
for me. I love my lucidity. So it's good waking

00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:39.840
up at three in the morning. Well, I don't fight

00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.679
it. I went out and sat under the stars and it

00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:44.300
was so peaceful. There was no traffic. It was

00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:47.519
absolutely lovely. It was clear. Not too much

00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.159
light pollution. The neighbor had this big light.

00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:51.940
I want to shoot it. I want to get one of Tony's

00:58:51.940 --> 00:58:54.519
guns and just shoot it because it ruins the stars

00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.139
at night. It's too bright. I'm not really going

00:58:57.139 --> 00:58:59.539
to shoot my neighbor's spotlight. If it's ever

00:58:59.539 --> 00:59:01.760
shot out, they're coming after you. I'm going

00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:03.679
to shoot it out and they're going to come after

00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.969
you. That would be fun. never tell well it was

00:59:06.969 --> 00:59:08.730
like did you ask your did you ask your neighbor

00:59:08.730 --> 00:59:10.809
nicely to not put the no i'm not because i don't

00:59:10.809 --> 00:59:12.449
go out there much at three in the morning which

00:59:12.449 --> 00:59:14.170
i just felt because it was just because like

00:59:14.170 --> 00:59:16.090
the stars were amazing that doesn't offend me

00:59:16.090 --> 00:59:18.070
that much it's not a big deal so no i'm just

00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:20.250
being silly but it was beautiful at three in

00:59:20.250 --> 00:59:22.329
the morning and then i came back in i lowered

00:59:22.329 --> 00:59:24.369
the ac fluff my pillow and then i just started

00:59:24.369 --> 00:59:26.489
listening to i think it was beethoven and then

00:59:26.489 --> 00:59:29.289
just went off to sleep again so see that i call

00:59:29.289 --> 00:59:34.090
that second sleep and my second sleeps My goodness,

00:59:34.190 --> 00:59:36.210
I woke up this morning because I heard something

00:59:36.210 --> 00:59:39.530
in the kitchen. I was like, what? My second sleep

00:59:39.530 --> 00:59:42.070
was so deep. Because my first sleep was good.

00:59:42.130 --> 00:59:45.309
It was probably from 10 to 3. That's five hours.

00:59:45.369 --> 00:59:47.809
That's good first sleep. And that's enough to

00:59:47.809 --> 00:59:50.389
biologically, physiologically rejuvenate yourself.

00:59:50.949 --> 00:59:52.630
So now you're in a position where you're not

00:59:52.630 --> 00:59:55.610
sleeping because of a physiological need. You're

00:59:55.610 --> 00:59:59.789
in a predisposition for really astral projection,

01:00:00.230 --> 01:00:04.570
lucid dreaming. Those are all in play when you're

01:00:04.570 --> 01:00:06.889
physically rested, but you're still mentally.

01:00:07.610 --> 01:00:09.590
So what you want to do is wake up a little bit,

01:00:09.590 --> 01:00:13.050
but not much. Yes. And oh my goodness. Bouncing

01:00:13.050 --> 01:00:15.570
to the surface. It's so fun when you do that.

01:00:15.650 --> 01:00:18.630
And I just fell right back into it. And you can

01:00:18.630 --> 01:00:20.650
kind of guide where you're going because you

01:00:20.650 --> 01:00:24.269
just say, okay, I'm safe. I'm secure. I'm happy.

01:00:24.349 --> 01:00:27.800
I'm all these things. Now what do I do? It's

01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.760
the theme park. Take me on an adventure. Where

01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.940
am I going? What am I doing? You're setting the

01:00:31.940 --> 01:00:33.860
intention. So it's pretty fun. I'll do that.

01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.159
I'll try that again. We talked about that in

01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:38.300
one of the episodes. Setting an intention before

01:00:38.300 --> 01:00:40.519
getting into a dream. For me to fall back to

01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.760
sleep, I have a pathway. And it's beautiful.

01:00:43.860 --> 01:00:45.980
There's trees, cherry blossoms. It's absolutely

01:00:45.980 --> 01:00:49.500
lovely. And I hold that focus. And within about

01:00:49.500 --> 01:00:52.739
10 seconds, I can actually start seeing the dream

01:00:52.739 --> 01:00:55.860
state open up with that. It's gone from... just

01:00:55.860 --> 01:00:58.900
being in my imagination to this becoming alive

01:00:58.900 --> 01:01:01.380
like a dream. And that's happened a few times.

01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:03.539
It's always the same scenario. There was this

01:01:03.539 --> 01:01:07.460
young kid, he's probably 35 years old or something,

01:01:07.619 --> 01:01:11.500
probably half my age, but he did the best synopsis

01:01:11.500 --> 01:01:15.539
I've ever heard of astral projection, explaining

01:01:15.539 --> 01:01:19.360
how to get into it. what to do, what not to do.

01:01:19.460 --> 01:01:21.539
Yeah, Robert Monroe did that. It was beautiful.

01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:24.800
And I commented that it was pure gold the way

01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.139
he did it because... Could you imagine having

01:01:27.139 --> 01:01:29.340
that superpower? It took me 10 years to figure

01:01:29.340 --> 01:01:32.340
it out. I was like, come on. This kid just explained

01:01:32.340 --> 01:01:34.920
it. He did a great job. And I was just like,

01:01:34.980 --> 01:01:37.320
wow. I wish I would have known this when I was

01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:41.480
30 years old, 35 years old. I mean, I can't look

01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.199
backwards, but I'm glad I know it now because

01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.460
I still have... Yeah. Hundreds of years ahead

01:01:45.460 --> 01:01:48.420
of me. You've got eternity, baby. I've got hundreds

01:01:48.420 --> 01:01:49.960
of years. You've got eternity. You've got to

01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.380
do something to fill in the time. So what are

01:01:52.380 --> 01:01:53.599
you doing the rest? Do you have any good plans

01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.559
for the weekend? Yes. Tony's back tonight. Okay.

01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:58.800
And we'll take the jet skis out because now it's

01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.380
cooling down. I like to do that. You don't need

01:02:00.380 --> 01:02:02.500
stairs. You have jet skis. I know. It's great.

01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:04.699
That's a great quad. So you've got to come and

01:02:04.699 --> 01:02:06.500
do that. Marina, when do you want to do it? You

01:02:06.500 --> 01:02:08.000
know what? I really need to. Well, then just

01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.059
say yes to it. Well, I will say yes to it. Press

01:02:10.059 --> 01:02:12.780
enter. You just tell me when. Press enter. You

01:02:12.780 --> 01:02:16.380
just tell me. we'll do it okay yeah um i'd love

01:02:16.380 --> 01:02:18.099
to do it with robin or do it with you it's fine

01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:23.840
um i think about it there's no no no i totally

01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:27.159
want to do it right now i've got i just picked

01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.320
up some more web three projects and i won't go

01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.820
into it but i'm so excited about these projects

01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:36.360
because We're moving. There was my stomach growling.

01:02:36.380 --> 01:02:39.079
It was on the mic. Yeah, I had this banana. When

01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.179
we're doing the podcast, I don't eat until after

01:02:41.179 --> 01:02:42.639
the podcast. No, that's why I had this banana.

01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:46.420
Yeah, so I've got this project in, and these

01:02:46.420 --> 01:02:49.460
are built on Web 3 .0. Most of our lives, the

01:02:49.460 --> 01:02:51.320
Internet has been controlled by corporations,

01:02:51.539 --> 01:02:55.380
by these monster corporations, Meta, all these

01:02:55.380 --> 01:02:58.260
monster groups and corporations. But the Web

01:02:58.260 --> 01:03:02.320
3, if we do this correctly, will bring it back

01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.400
to we the people. Each one of us owns this infrastructure

01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.219
instead of the central governments or the education

01:03:08.219 --> 01:03:12.739
universities, the military. It's about us owning

01:03:12.739 --> 01:03:17.019
it. Is this platform published 100 % or you've

01:03:17.019 --> 01:03:18.800
still got a little work to do to get to this?

01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.360
Oh, we're just starting. So that's why you can't

01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:22.940
come out on the jet ski. You've got time. Well,

01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:24.860
I have time for everything that's important.

01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:27.500
And right now, the Web3 stuff is super important

01:03:27.500 --> 01:03:31.250
to me. We're in a place in the world where if

01:03:31.250 --> 01:03:33.369
we don't do this correctly, we could all be enslaved

01:03:33.369 --> 01:03:36.929
very quickly. And the enslavement is not temporary.

01:03:37.110 --> 01:03:39.269
It's going to be hard to break free. Let's talk

01:03:39.269 --> 01:03:41.670
about this more on the next podcast. Let's go

01:03:41.670 --> 01:03:45.190
into this. I'm not saying no to jet skiing. I

01:03:45.190 --> 01:03:47.550
love jet skiing. And it's nothing personal. I

01:03:47.550 --> 01:03:52.449
love you too. I'm in a place where I just have

01:03:52.449 --> 01:03:54.469
too many projects. That's fair enough. Cool.

01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:57.179
Well, thank you for coming. Yes, you have a lovely

01:03:57.179 --> 01:03:59.219
weekend. Okay, yeah, say hey to Tony for me.

01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.059
I definitely will. Say hi to Rob. All right,

01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:16.820
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