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life. Well, hello everybody and welcome. You're
listening to Soul Decodes. And I figured out
why this blasted thing was not recording. So
we're finally on the air. And she pulled a USB
port out and shoved it back in again. Just pulled
the USB out and put it back in. It's a metaphor
for life. So in the military, when we were flying
airplanes, we had this term, we called it FM.
FM, the letters FM. F*** me. No, yeah, close.
But so sometimes you'd ask the crew chief. Like
I'd land the airplane and it's like, hey, this
was happening. I did this. Can you explain that?
And he's like, yeah, FM. I'm like, okay. Because
that was like the thing. Yeah. FM means effing
magic. Right, okay. Yeah. So I pull, what did
you do? I pulled the, how did you fix it? FM,
baby. Oh, FM, baby. I just pulled the USB out,
put it in, FM. We're going to be using that quite
a bit in the future. So we didn't come to talk
about USB sticks and FM. What are we going to
talk about today? We had some stuff. You were
talking about, let's see, you had me print out
some things. We can talk about that. We can also
talk about music, as you said. Anything you want
to talk about right out the gate? Anything current?
Anything? Oh, you're so sweet. No, I'm just super
excited. For me personally, I've got... You know
I've got so many projects right now. Juggling.
I've had two really significant conversations
with some full -stack tech developers. Full -stack
means they do everything from the user interface
all the way down to the hardware. They do everything
in between. And I've spent literally two years
trying to find these tech people locally because
I like to see the people I'm working with and
all this stuff. And sure enough, I was not able
to find him. I even went to Orlando and I was
trying to meet people. Now, had you prayed on
it? Do you put that out there to the universe?
I would like you to interface me with the perfect
solution for my vision. It's interesting. I'm
almost in a, this sounds crazy, but I'm almost
in a constant state of prayer because I don't
even worry about it. I just constantly say, okay.
When you're ready, I'm ready. Yeah, nice. Yeah.
Because when the universe, it used to be when
I was a kid, you know, I'd stamp my feet and
I was just like, you know, just like kids do.
It's like, dang it, I want things to go my way
and why aren't they going my way? I must suck
and maybe I need to pray harder and all this.
I'm in a place now where everything happens exactly
when it's supposed to happen. Yeah, I love that.
It's such a, you're abiding in complete rest
and peace at that level. It's a high spiritual
attainment. And the universe has its timing.
If you've got a big vision, the universe can
get this to come to pass. And if it's destiny
involved, you have to wait for the universe.
You have to do all the things that you have to
do. You can't sit on your arse and eat Cheetos
all day. You've got to put the systems together.
But when you're working in your interface in
the quantum field, then it is very important
to have your attitude. It's actually, I would
say, to live in alignment, you need that. Yeah,
and I sometimes call it flow. I don't really...
See, everybody talks about alignment and flow.
What does alignment mean to you? Well, most of
the time people talk about alignment. And they're
talking about the chakras and all this stuff.
But I don't think in those terms. I think in
terms of... Oh, no, I don't either. I'm just
talking about in terms of... Aligning with the
source. Right. Well, I just think in terms of
resonance, you know, I think we can selectively
tune into things. So to answer your question,
I put it out there. I knew it was going to happen.
I just didn't know when. And I was listening
to a podcast and... This guy made reference to
this group of technical entrepreneurs and their
full -stack developers, but specifically they're
using the... H graph or, um, the, the name of
the company is H graph, but they're using, um,
Hedera hash graph, which is the technology I've
been looking to build on. Right. Like since day
one. So they're tailor made for you basically.
They're already building on it. They know ABC
one, two, three, exactly what to do. I'd love
to listen in on one of those conversations. Oh
my goodness. This one would have freaked you
out. So I had two conversations. The first one
was a discovery call. Make sure that. Yeah. We
kind of liked each other. They need to make sure
I'm not a bozo. I need to make sure that they
are legit. The first call was amazing. I shared
with them one. I told them, I said, look, I've
got about 17 projects. I'm only going to tell
you one of them. And because this is just about
discovering each other. I said, but if there's
two more I want to talk to you about, if we like
each other, let's book the other one. The other
two are actually, to me. more powerful than the
first one, but you've got to test them and you
need a prototype. So anyway, I'll fast forward.
And they were happy to take that on. Well, so
what, so where, where we are now is I, I explained
my top three projects. They're not the top three
in my book. Like there's other ones I'd rather
build, but they're the top three that fit with
their technology. Yes. All right. So I had to
find the balance. So I, I, I brought these to
the top. I presented to them. They loved the
first one. That was on day one. And then a couple
of days later, we had the second meeting. I told
them, I'd tell them number two and three. I did.
They said number two was effing genius. They
said it's genius. FM, FG. So they wanted to bump
that up to number one. And did you like that
idea? That was nice confirmation. Did you know
it was genius before they affirmed that? Well,
I thought it was good, but it's hard to... When
you're assessing yourself, it's hard to determine
what, but to have brilliant people affirm what
you want to believe is true. Now, the good news
is when you're working with people like that,
it's all about, they're not about the money and
I'm not about the money. We just want to get
this project out because it's such a good project.
There's this, yes, we can do this. So anyway,
the takeaway is that I explained to him, I've
got all these projects and he says, well, wait,
wait, wait. Instead of rolling out. All of these
projects, let's pick the top one or two or three.
Let's get the first one in the shoot. And there's
a process you go by where you submit a grant,
a proposal for a grant. Because I could fund
it myself. Well, why? Why would I do this? They
literally got millions of dollars out there.
So they're putting out. So the Hashgraph Foundation's
got literally millions of dollars. They only
metered out like 50 grand at a time. And you
have to meet certain benchmarks with your project.
So you'll have to pitch it well. So we're at
step one. We're going to configure the second
project, which is now the first project. And
just see if they'll accept it. So I have to go
through step one, which is propose it. Yeah.
And if they accept the proposal, then I have
to pitch it. And you'll be brilliant. I will
be, but I just wish it was some of my other projects
because this is not my favorite project. Yeah,
but you need to beta test a project, don't you?
If it's not the most important, it shouldn't
be the most important or favorite project because
you've got to be able to get the systems all
in place and then boom. Now, the good news is
I went right here locally in Central Florida.
I talked to a friend of mine. I'll just call
him an executive. He's got a lot of experience
working with... Huge diversity of people and
technology and politics. Do I know him? Have
I met him here? You might know him. I think I
do. No, he's not been to my house. Oh, okay,
then I don't. No, no. But he just knows everybody.
He sounds very interesting. He might as well
be the mayor. Oh, gosh. So anyway, I went to
him yesterday. We spent an hour together. Because
he's interested in learning more about tech stuff.
for his his role as he's a ceo basically so i
agreed i said okay look i'm gonna i'm gonna share
with you what you need to know about um gpt you
know rag how do these ais work together what
are their limitations so i gave him a really
strong 30 minute tutorial then i pivoted to my
stuff and i said okay my turn this is what i'm
doing this is what i need from you And he's obviously
in a position to be able to assist you. Well,
he's not going to assist me, but I need him more
as a clearinghouse of information. So I need
a disinterested third party, someone that's not
in the tech. They're not completely disinterested.
Doesn't have anything. Any horse in the race.
Any horse in the race. Nothing to do with the
outcome. We're just helping each other as friends.
Yes. Kind of like you and I do. We're just here
to help each other's friends. So I pitched, I
showed it to him. He says, oh man, this is genius.
I'm like, oh yeah, two people. So then I, um,
so I said, here's what I want to do. I'm going
to, I'm going to put the proposal. I'm going
to get the money. I'm going to get this going.
Once I get the beta together, I want to give
it to you and your people. I want to give it
to you and let you implement that and let your
people use it. Let your people use it. On the
condition that they give me feedback. So that's
called a beta test, right? Yes, and great testimony
for you. And I said, if they're willing to do
that, then I'll give them access to this platform
the rest of their lives for free. Yeah. It'll
just be... And great testimony for when you want
to sell that in the future. You want this up
and running to perfection with everyone thinking
you're a genius. And you're right. This is kind
of a... This is a... It is a test. It's your
early, early, you're going to have to get out
all the kinks. It's very significant. There's
a lot of kinks. There's kinks within myself,
which is like, oh my gosh. Well, I'll talk you
through this. How do I do this? You know, all
this technical stuff. Oh God, I can't talk you
through that. Because I know what the tech is.
Yeah. I know what the tech should do. They know
how to do it. Yeah. But the tech people, they
don't know the entrepreneur stuff. So there's
this crossflow of information that's really important.
So this is exciting new ground for me. But when
you're living in alignment, so we can just switch
back to that, when you're living in alignment
and you haven't got your ego mind coming online
and you're actually hooked up to the vast part
of information already in the quantum field,
so you'll find whatever questions you have can
actually just reach you in a download. It's not
something you'll have to figure out. It'll just
be there. Well, what's funny about what you said,
so I had a bunch of projects going. and then
three days ago see I used to there's probably
a lot of people out there they they wake up at
like three in the morning and they're angry and
they get angry it's like Damn it, I want to sleep
till six or seven or sunrise or whatever. It's
terrible, though, because the quantum field is
going to mirror that back. You will be sleeping
and you won't be doing... That would be not abiding
in resonance. Just that anger. You're not in
alignment. You're really off the alignment. About
ten years ago, I said, no, if I wake up in the
middle of the night, I'm going to... Give gratitude.
I woke up at three. It's so funny you're saying
this. I woke up at three o 'clock this morning
and I'm lying in bed and I was wide awake. And
you thought, I thought, you know what? I'm going
to have a cup of coffee. It was very, very mild.
And I went out and I sat right in the front of
my property and I looked up at the stars and
I just had this most, and it was so, the stars
were amazing. They were all out. So that's what
I did with my three in the morning. But the thing
is, you know, if you can just make a decision
in advance that if you're going to wake up at
three in the morning, Look at it with gratitude.
So that's where I got really good at lucidity.
We talked about lucid dreams like a year ago,
probably. Maybe we'll revisit lucid dreams. So
what I did, Sarah, was I woke up. It was about
3 .30, 4 o 'clock, somewhere in there. I try
not to look at screens. So I just glanced at
it and put it down. And then I started just saying,
okay, what do you got for me? Nice. Just literally,
like, what have you got? Big, powerful question.
It was like a fire hose in my ear. Your brainwaves
must have been in delta. Oh, my God. Theta, actually.
It's theta, not delta. And now you were just
sat. So that was the download. I literally. And
it says it in the Bible. Ask and thou shall receive.
But be careful. They took out the but be careful
part. But buckle up. And so, wow. Did you go
back to sleep? No, I didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't.
I didn't even want to. I'm sitting there. No.
But I got to the point where I'm like, holy crap.
I got to write this stuff down. So I was debating.
It's like, what do I do? Well, you can always
talk it into your telegram now, can't you? I
was going to do that. And I thought, you know
what? I'm awake. So I just went into my studio,
into my office. I picked up four new domains.
I'll tell you what they are off the mic. Right,
okay. Because there's like, okay, if I'm going
to do this, boom, boom, boom, boom, picked up
four new domains. Oh, so this is quite recently.
This is like four days ago, three days ago. Oh,
my God. So I was just like, what? So now I've
got like 25 domains, but they're all like Web3
stuff, right? But when I tell you that, so by
the time Robin woke up. He'd lived like four
weeks. For real. I already had my complete white
paper built. For this entire ecosystem, it's
literally, I even have my new logo. It's the
Earth Angel. It's Earth Angel. And then it shows
Web3 ecosystem. Yeah. And that's a brand new
logo I'll show it to you. It's really cool. How
very satisfying. It was very, very fun. So anyway,
that's a long answer to a short question. Well,
you're definitely in alignment. Well, I'm just
having fun. And just saying, so what have you
got from him? It's a very powerful thing to say.
I remember, so when I wrote, is this the best
God could do? Part of that came from a prayer
and I knew I was semi -depressed and I knew I
wasn't getting what I needed to get. So I was
on my knees and I was kneeling by my bed and
I prayed to God and I said, you need to show
me what it is that I'm not getting. You need
to show me. And my life changed immediately after
that. It was like, well, here we go then. Well,
it's so interesting because I was going to send
you a video, but I want to talk about your papers
because intuitively, the video, I'm just thinking,
I've not read anything that's on your papers.
Folks, Sarah showed up just a few minutes ago.
We started a little late today because she had
another appointment. She literally sent me a
document and said, here's 10 pages, please print
it out. She got here. I've not even looked at
the pages. I kind of know what's there because
you told me. But at the same time, you told me
that's coming in. My mind started feeding me
information, not based on what's on your paper,
but... tangential things that i think are related
to that without me even without me even seeing
it okay that's very interesting that's why i'm
super excited to know what's on your pieces of
paper but this idea of you receiving you're receiving
either mega downloads or mini downloads but that's
when you're in alignment that's what will happen
so you're not using your left brain it's coming
right into your right brain immediately and questions
are i mean a question can just be implanted and
you could be thinking about growing some roses
outside and suddenly they're the question and
i think the more you're in alignment the more
downloads you'll get that will be relevant to
what your vision is and it's it's so much fun
that that's the thing is when you you know so
many people they spend so like i had a girl this
this week she's brand new brand new client referral
And she's really in a, I mean, I get these people
are in such dark places, but by the time we're
done talking, they're fine. And that's your spiritual
duty, isn't it? I think in a way you've got to
lift them at some point. But just explain it.
Let's have a conversation about how did you come
to believe this? Why are you in this dark spot?
ABC 123, this is why I'm here. What decisions
have you made? Is this a lady that's going through
a divorce or is she's bad health? She might as
well be going through a divorce. It's one of
those. Right, okay. It's like, oh, this is not...
Her life is all out of alignment, basically.
But the thing is, when people replay the... When
they keep replaying the old movies... I mean,
we talk about this with Joe Dispenza. Why are
you creating these... Why do you keep replaying
these stupid B movies? They're not doing it consciously.
They're allowing it to be their default setting.
Yeah. That's exactly right. And you talk about
that all the time. Take control of your thoughts.
Yeah, bring them captive. It says in the Bible
you take every thought captive. But you've got
to realise you're stuck in thought forms. And
that's where being mindful and meditation happens
because you've got to stop the flow of thoughts
and then you can abide just in awareness. That
is the key. I mean, if I was doing what you're
doing, I would absolutely go for that as being
you've got to get out of the thought forms. And
the more you think the same thing, what's going
to happen? That neural pathway is entrenched.
Then it becomes your default setting. and people
I would think will go through lifetimes of not
being able to control the mind. Once you can
stop... yourself mid -flow in your thought forms
it's because you have noticed and that is a real
place of power because then you have to reprogram
your mind with the neural plasticity I've been
learning a bit about that and that and that and
that's actually not as difficult as you think
in terms of the actual practice of it but it
might be really difficult if you've got these
strongholds in thinking this entrenched belief
system I mean you've got to reprogram your entire
mind it's fascinating what you just said because
one of my One of the things that I face in my
life today is I'm getting so many downloads,
so many creative ideas. Robin laughs. She's like,
let me get my coffee first. But I've learned
to just keep it down to one or two things. It's
like, okay, this, this. But my biggest thing
I'm learning now. I was starting to apply pressure
on myself. Like, how am I going to get all of
these things done? Yeah, it's going to be the
universe that's going to help. And it's like,
it's not up to me. Yeah. Well, part of it is.
Part of it is. But my job is to be receptive
and say, okay, I will get all these done. And
guide me. The question is, what do I need to
do right now? What's the priority and what do
I do right now to get... To get this going. And
to be in line with the universe's timing. But
you're asking. I mean, we talk about asking questions
all the time in order to get knowledge about
the history and everything on planet Earth. But
you ask questions to get yourself on the correct
trajectory. And you have a very, very big vision
for your life. And there's a lot of moving parts
to that. And there is a timing. And that you
have to give up to God, whatever God is, the
source, the universe, whatever you want to call
it. And that will immediately alleviate the pressure
that you're feeling you're putting yourself under.
And that's just faith, isn't it? That's all that
is. Well, I agree. And I guess the message to
our listeners, because you and I are in agreement
on this, when we think about our history, it
really doesn't serve anything in terms of entertainment
value or anything. Oh, it's quite entertaining.
Oh, it's quite, well, some of it's entertaining.
But really, it's just for education. Like, we
look backwards, it's like, okay, what happened?
I think we're programmed to look back because
we have to get things right in the future. So
it's almost an evolutionary necessity. But not
replay the movies. Not replay the movies. Either
in history or in your head. That's what I'm saying.
I don't want to ruminate. I don't want to dwell.
I just want to, okay, what was the essence of
the movie? It's like taking cliff notes. Like
if I read, you know, this big, I don't read much,
but you know, these big, fat novels. I don't
need to read the whole novel. If I get the essence
of it, that's all I need. So, okay. Like you,
you are different. Like you would just dive into
it. Oh, I'd read every word. Every word. Yeah.
Because your mind, you'd be creating. Oh, I'd
have this. They'd be talking about the garden
and you'd have the garden and the sun and the
bird and the hummingbird and the worm. And I
mean, your mind is all over. And it's beautiful.
Mine's wired differently. Yeah. But the thing
is. For me, the novel would be like, OK, I get
what the author was trying to express. I think
you have to, when you're looking back in history,
I think I wrote this in one of my books, We Who
Are Becoming Gods. And what history is, when
you're looking back, OK, it's that worked. That
didn't. That sucked. We don't want any more of
that. We want more of this. We can do without
that. Let's upgrade that. So the whole thing
is necessary to create heaven on earth, if that's
the end game. Truly. So the more we stay present.
And don't get anxious about the future. No, it
costs your care. Just look at the back if it
helps you. If it doesn't help you, don't look
back. And have a vision. If you have a big vision,
understand that vision in your mind is existing
in the quantum field as a parallel reality to
the one that you're living now. So you're not
waiting for the future to collapse in on you.
You can step in to whatever that is just by being
in the resonance of the feelings that you will
have if that was happening. And that's what Joe
Dispenza, he talks primarily about that. And
it's an absolute, oh, my God, that information
is crucial. Have a big vision. Get that going.
Understand that you're brilliant, that you're
sovereign and you're competent. And whatever
you get going in your vision, you're going to
be good at it. Because that's what you need to
be. Because then you'll enjoy it. When you speak
of Joe Dispenza, I remember the very first time
I heard him speak. I'm like, who is this guy?
He's speaking the same way. It would be lovely
to get him on the podcast. He's speaking the
same way. Oh, absolutely. Because he's saying
the same things that I had thought and felt for
a long time. And there's other higher minds like
Joe Dispenza's. If you look at Chalmers, he was
on Lex Friedman's show. I think it's David Chalmers.
He talks about this being a simulated reality,
which I think is not a bad structure to anchor
to. And so does Donald Hoffman. I mean, you've
got these great minds understanding. the quantum
field. And I then take that, well, did God create
this? Did God create this? Yes, he did, whoever
God is. And then you've got a really good structure
to anchor yourself. And we're so limited in what
we believe can happen in our lives. Maybe we
were programmed just to be limited. Maybe we
were just brainwashed and thinking you're nothing,
you're stupid, you're not going to go very far,
you're not going to do anything, put up with
your lot. The best you can do is maybe own a
house and a car and get a vacation. a year that
was kind of the environment that i grew up in
and um it's not like that at all because all
versions of you exist as once in the quantum
field infinite versions i i agree with you yeah
so um so let's i'm just infinitely curious now
about what's what's on your pieces of paper i
know I saw the title. Thank you for printing
these, by the way. I saw the title of it. Do
you need more light or are you good? No, I'm
good. All right. So basically, this is a list
of question and answers because I'm starting
Church of the Light Ages. Oh, I thought this
was your complete catechism. I'll complete it.
Well, I'm not going to read my answers out. I
actually just want to ask you the questions to
see how you can fill in the gaps. Oh, man. Okay.
Let me go get some bourbon. Take a shot. Smoke
a joint and come back. If I smoked a joint, it
would be my first one. Oh, we'll have to do it
one day. You don't have to smoke whole joints.
I'm on a 62 year. Oh my God. You could have a
little hit. You'd be hilarious. Oh my God. You'd
hold your shit together. I'd probably go to sleep.
Get a download. I'd probably just go. I think,
I mean, I think that you would actually, you
would be hilarious and it would switch your ego
mind offline. I don't know how often, I think
with probably what you do, you're in ego a lot.
So you would just be in pure awareness and I
think you'd find it very relaxing. But I'm not
going to encourage you to smoke pot, darling.
I would actually. I would dispute that because
I... Well, let's test it out then. I actually
have very little connection to my ego mind. Well,
your ego mind, we've got to make sure we're talking
about the same thing here. Your ego mind is your
mind where you problem solve. This is the component
where you go through problems and, you know,
this was an ego mind project. So your vernacular
is slightly different than mine. I call that
the male mind. Okay, yes. It's the logical, sequential.
It's the problem logic. And you've got to be
in that to pull off what you're doing in terms
of all your 18 projects. Yeah, that would be.
That would kick out. That would just go. And
then you'd be in awareness. But then you would
be subject to probably a lot of uploads. Yeah,
I'd be freaking out. It's like, I got to go.
Actually, what would happen is I'd probably turn
on my recorder. And I probably speak all of the
things in my recorder and the next day I wouldn't
even know what I said. That would be good, but
you might be more coherent than you think. I
think, I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't mind experimenting
with my consciousness. I haven't done LSD or
mushrooms, but I do intend to do that at some
point in my life, you know, not next week or
anything. And the clinical conditions would have
to be in place. Let's get some of these projects,
like a real cash flowing and we're just going
to take a weekend. We'll do some acid, some mushrooms.
We'll be gone in about a week. Smoke some pot,
shoot some bourbon and come back and we'll be
great again. So this is the list of questions
and answers that I'm putting together to explain
what I believe God did and what science is confirming.
And that's a very important part because this
church is going to be the merger of religion
and science. And there's no dogma. So all these
questions and answers will be subject to review
at any time. We can delete what's not helpful
to us anymore, put in something that is helpful.
And it was always open to inspection. And the
religion, I would like anyone can... So it would
almost like be a Wikipedia where you can actually
comment on this religion. Well, Sarah, have you
thought about this? Have you thought about...
this this doesn't make any sense so the religion
is built from the ideas of the parishioners as
well that's how it's sustained and no dogma at
all because that's been a real fucking issue
anyway so church of the light ages so the first
question i thought should be the first question
and i think i'm right about that who is god so
you answer that because i want to because i know
what i've written here well You know, this is
a difficult thing because when we speak, when
we use our words, when we use our language, the
very act of speaking about God diminishes God.
But we've got to communicate ideas. But we have
to communicate it. So the reason so many people
have difficulty expressing what is God or who
is God is because we try to make, because we
necessarily have to start. Our foundation. Making
God make sense to us. He is the foundation of
everything. When you know what God is, you'll
know your role. If God's real, you'll know your
role. So I say that's a foundational question.
But I agree with you, though. Language isn't
good enough, but we've still got to use the primitive
means we have of exchanging ideas about reality.
Right. So when I think, first of all, when I
think about God, I just, I... My mind just goes
to energy. She is pure energy. Just absolute,
infinite, pure energy. But energy by itself is
not. Like if you have the ocean, the ocean is
just there. I always liken this to the ocean.
I really do, and I don't know why. No, it's a
good metaphor. But when you just have the ocean,
you can look back and there's this huge expanse.
For our purposes, consider the ocean infinite.
I know there's edges to it and stuff. Okay, fine.
But within the ocean, there's a lot of activity.
There's a lot of things going on, on it, in it,
through it. There's waves. There's energy. There's
a lot happening within the substrate. The ocean
is still the ocean. And it's all connected. And
it's all connected. So that's what I really like
the metaphor of the ocean being. God -like. I'm
not saying the ocean's God. Well, we're part
of it. If you've got an ocean and you're part
of God, then you're the drop. You're interfaced
with this ocean and the whole ocean is moving,
but you are part of that. Yeah, so people always
say, well, they talk about energy. Well, energy
by itself is just... Neutral? Yeah, you could
say it's neutral. There's different types of
energy. There's potential energy, which is energy
that's there, that has the capability of doing
work. And kinetic, which is the movement. And
kinetic, which is the actual movement. And as
pilots, we do that. We trade it off all the time.
So if we're surrounded by infinite energy, what's
the catalyst? What makes it move forward? And
that would be emotion and consciousness. So in
my mind, you want to... if you want to mobilize,
if you want to move towards, quote, God, you
need to take this relatively inert, balanced
substrate, and you need to disrupt it. I don't
mean disrupt in a negative way. Force it to do
something. I'm just saying, it's like here's
a bunch of Play -Doh on the table. Now you use
the word emotions and consciousness. Let's assume
that consciousness is primary and it gives rise
to emotions. So basically you've just said that
emotions are moving this ocean which we can liken
to the quantum field. Yeah, so... So emotions
are really... Emotions, yeah. So they're the
moving, they're the fuel. for the movement they're
the kinetic energy in the movement of that's
that's my perception you know we're just a conversation
here but yeah i think the idea is like if i'm
not conscious or not aware if i'm not aware I
can't be emotional about something because I'm
just not aware. Well, you'll have a default setting
of an emotion, like the person that woke up at
three in the morning and thought, fuck this,
I want to go back to sleep. You're still having
emotions. You're just not aware that you're having
them. You're not conscious that you're stuck
in them, and therefore you've got no hope of
getting out of them. But emotions still are there,
conscious or unconscious. If somebody wakes up
in the middle of the night at 3 a .m. and says,
F this. I'm going to say that's not an emotion.
That's actually a trained response. It's a predetermined
response. But you're going to resonate with that
emotionally. I don't dispute that. So it's going
to cause an emotion because thought causes an
emotion. I don't dispute that. But if you wake
me up from a dead sleep and I F that, that's
a trained response because I don't even have
time. If I'm completely asleep... But what about
30 seconds later? 30 seconds later. Then you'll
be, okay, you're back into... Then you have time
to synthesize the emotion. Yeah, okay, this is
not a big deal. I'll get up and have a pee and
I'll be fine. Yeah, so we're talking about emotion,
but what you're saying is sustained emotion,
which is the issue. And we can have thoughts
and we can flush them in and out, but a sustained...
prolonged emotion is going to be the fuel source
for the quantum field. But if you're right, and
I like what you're saying, but emotion is the
driving force. Well, and this is the thing. Our
goal should be to get our brain, the different
parts of our brain to dance together. I call
it a dance. There's the male side, the female
side. You want them to dance together and get
them to be balanced and metered, balanced and
metered in the response. The reason I say this
is because just even yesterday with this lady,
she's in a depressed state. And are all her observations
about life and herself negative? So watch this.
I call there's a primary emotion. The primary
emotion is your true emotion. Your base. It's
what you're actually feeling devoid of any other
belief systems, right? I see somebody get hurt
or a kid just durfs and just face plants and
skins his knees and just durfs. My primary emotion
might be something related to concern. Yes, nurturing,
compassion. So that's my primary emotion. Now
the mother pulls him up and yanks him by the
arm and starts yelling and screaming at him.
It's anger. So you're talking about this base
emotion is temperament. The base temperament.
The base emotion is, in my world, always correct.
But what I find is this. This is especially true
with guys because guys are like, they might watch
a chick flick or a romantic movie and maybe they
start to cry and you look over, you see them
crying. You're just like, they got to be macho,
right? They can't, you can't. be perceived as
being weak, right? So you see the guy crying.
You're like, oh, you're a little softy, aren't
you? No, I'm not, right? So now he's angry. But
is he angry because he was sad? No, no. His primary
emotion was that he was sad. He's angry because
I called him out for being sad. It's like, oh,
are you sad? So he has some insecurity wrapped
around being sad. But now he's angry with me.
Because I observed his primary emotion. You should
have looked the other way. I've done that with
Tony. I've seen him tear, and I thought, I'm
not going to mention it. But do you see what
I'm saying, though? Yeah, I do, yeah. Because
he's sad. I acknowledge his sadness. But it's
now lodged into... But it makes him angry. Yeah.
That anger is what I call a secondary emotion.
I mean, he almost felt busted. Well, it's a secondary
emotion. Yes. And that's based on ego or belief
system. And is there another third layer on top
of that? Well, I imagine so. Yeah. At that point,
it's all sequential. It could be a cascade. And
this actually was happening yesterday on this
phone call. I was kind of dissecting with this
girl, you know, some of her reasons she's having
a problem with her marriage. Because I actually
talk to people because I'm ordained, right? Yeah.
And you've been through a messy marriage. So
you're perfect for it. So I just have this conversation
and I basically said, somebody's got to stop
the cycle. Yeah. Because it's cascading. It's
one on top of the other. Feeding each other.
And pretty soon, you're ripping, you know, this
little, you didn't rinse off your dish and he's
tearing the cupboard door off, right? That's
not the case, but I'm just saying. It's a war
of attrition. That's all that becomes. So this
was from the question, who is God? Yeah, I was
just thinking that. And I was like, well, she's
everything and she's nothing. When I think of
God, I just think of this eternal state of, peace
and love and gentleness and kindness. With a
benevolence. Benevolence. I feel like in the
human realm, mom puts the two of us in a safe,
secure area. Maybe there's some hazards, like
you could hit your head on the drum over there
or you might topple over the music stand or something,
right? So there's little hazards here and again,
but generally it's safe. Toys in the cabinet.
There's musical instruments you can play. You
can plug in the keyboard, play some keyboard,
play some songs. Generally, a lot of cool things.
We can play cards, play blocks. You know, we
can do different things. That's kind of how I
view the human condition. We're here. We can
make it as much or as little as we want. And
it's a gift. Now you're going sort of layers
into that. So who and what is God? So who is
God? And my answer was simply the source of all
reality. That's fair. Now, after you've got the
source of all reality, my next question was,
what is God? So you've got who is God and then
what is he? So you've actually went through both
of those. Who is he and what is he? You covered
that and you went beyond it. And then my third
question is. For what means can we know what
God, by what means can we know what God did?
Well, so this is going to be an answer you're
probably not ready for. Maybe you are. This whole
conversation, the whole idea of talking about
God, this idea that you and I are communicating
is... predicated on this time domain like you
and i even speaking to each other we're limited
to the time domain well we're in a very closed
in low functioning system compared to everything
yeah so for for me to speak to you and for you
to reply and we're having this conversation it's
there's a time domain that's elapsing the thing
about the god that i know is she's timeless yes
But that's God on the other side of the simulated
reality. That's God where we came from, not within
this structure. So the short answer is, what
did she do? Yeah, what did she do? She put us
in the scenario where I have to deal with time.
Yes. Okay, that's the number one thing. And it's
a linear construct, but it's not real. It's the
illusion. It's a linear construct, exactly. So
what did she do? Well, she... She gave me an
80 -pound rucksack to carry. And that 80 -pound
rucksack is time. I have to learn to work within
the construct, the confines of time, until I
learn how to be timeless. Love that. That's really
good. Yeah, so this is like you... And it's benevolent.
So it's like my daughter, Melissa, is out. This
summer, she had all three of my three grandsons
learning to swim. Oh, fabulous. But it was one
of these scenarios where it was like survival
swimming, where it's not just, oh, swim. It's
like, you're going to swim, you're going to be
in your clothes, you're going to have your shoes
on, you're going to get tired. Yeah, I'm not
going to throw you in. And you're going to have
to figure out how to get out of this. Or at least
float. And it's just a 30 -second thing, but
they go through this survival thing. So the construct,
I use the pool scenario because it's very much
like time. It's like mom, Melissa's like, oh
man, it just, it tears me up to see my kids do
that. But they, she knows it's for their best.
Right. So this is where we get immersed. We get
immersed in this pool of time. Yeah. And it's
to make us stronger. It's to give us skills.
that we'll use at some other point. In our eternal
evolution, in our eternal now. So I think that's
a great answer. To me, the time is like a...
It's like carrying a heavy vest. But I think
once you've mastered that, then you step into
alignment with everything that is timeless because
it's all happening at the same time in the quantum
field. I'm actually looking forward to learning
how to do that, where I can jump back and forth
in time. Well, it's controlling your emotions.
This is what Joe Dispenza would say. He said
your emotional contact, peace, inner peace is
the highest. That's exactly what you need. You
need inner peace and you need joy. and love and
benevolence and sincerity now if you can rest
in that take care of your projects the quantum
field opens up and what's what i mean it's happened
in my life you it's no good doing that for three
hours in an afternoon you could have this best
version of yourself but if you're collapsing
again at five you've pulled yourself back from
the area that you were the quantum field was
taking you to because it's existing now so you'll
find that you're just going around in circles
you'll be going around the same old mountain
because you've got to sustain the coherency it
has to be stained because um sustained and it
doesn't take long to start seeing the synchronicities
with all these doors opening you'll see it right
but if you're collapsing back because you've
stubbed your toe you've got into an argument
with your husband you've now you're out of alignment
with the highest version of yourself and it's
no good that you can be that from time to time
because you keep collapsing back if you don't
sustain it This conversation is fascinating because
I keep going back to this conversation yesterday
with this girl because I asked her, I said, who
are you and why are you here? Like I do with
all my people. But I also asked because she started
diagramming out how these arguments take place
and how they escalate. So I said, which one of
you is going to take leadership? Which one of
you is going to be the light? Permit the other
person, recognize the other person's divinity.
recognize that they have some things that are
concerning or things that you don't understand.
Just recognize it and let it be. Don't engage
it. Understand that you got married for a reason.
You love each other. You used to love each other
for a reason. Find that reason. Can you go and
rediscover that reason? But give it some space.
Just give it space. If he's starting to behave
in this way that you don't, you know, where he's...
belittling or whatever he's going to be doing
do you have the capacity to stay in alignment
just to sit on your throne not in a smug way
straighten your tiara yeah no for real just sit
and i can do all things just sit you don't want
to allow him his actions to govern your emotions
do not give him that power but you'll be out
of alignment if you do that but but also but
at the same time recognize the feeling that like
And each one of us has to do our thing with relationships,
right? Yeah. And recognize that both of you need
to do work. But one person is going to have to
be the bigger deal in this to get this going.
One of them has to break the cycle. Yes. Yeah.
And is she strong enough to do that? I don't
know. I just matter. Yeah, well, you don't know.
I don't know. It's very tempting not to do that.
It's very tempting in a structure where you pull
out of that. I think it's attainable to have
any reality you want, but you've got to be the
mental version of who you would be if your life
was going exactly the way that you want it and
have planned. And that's the resonance you need.
But if you keep collapsing it because you're
going back to default positions of reaction.
behavior, you're going to find yourself stuck.
And that's why people are stuck. And they've
been the best version of themselves. And it makes
it even worse because they know that they've
got it in there. I love the word you used, reactionary
behavior. Colloquially, they call it triggering.
People are triggered. Because in today's day
and world, I've been triggered. But they say,
you've triggered me. No, it's nothing to do with
them. It's actually you. Exactly. It's like,
you triggered me. Well, your finger was on the
trigger. Like you pulled the trigger. So don't,
it's like, oh, well, they forced me to shoot
them. Well, no. No. No, that's not the way it
works. Yeah, get a grip. It's like, let them
behave. Let them be. Just let them be. You don't
need to engage that. You don't need to engage
it. You don't need to control it. And you've
still got to recognize the namaste part. There
is a God in them, and you recognize that. All
these ego structures have to be collapsed. You're
there. You're in it for a reason. It was in your
life plan because every big relationship is.
You know what's tough is when you're talking
to these people and they're in that dark spot,
the last thing they want to hear is that. That
was in your life plan you asked for. That's a
good way to get shot. No, because they feel like
they're... That's a good way to get triggered.
You have to wear a bulletproof vest, won't you?
Yeah, but that is the last thing, because you
want to be a victim. But then she'll get there.
Yeah, well, that's great. Yeah, she'll get there.
Your likelihood that you're going to want to
be a victim and blame that person is going to
be so strong. And our ego, no, it's not them,
it's not you, it's them. And it might be them.
I mean, you might be dealing with a real arsehole,
but you're in this... because you chose to be
in it. So that's where the belief system of reincarnation
has really helped me, because there's a bigger
picture underlining that, because I've been married
for 32 years, and it's not always been easy.
But I've always understood that we were supposed
to be together, and we're supposed to be going
through this journey. And it's difficult to think
that if you don't believe that you've had more
than one life, because you just feel like your
two souls coming in, you're newbies, you're empty,
you've got flung together. So do you think, it's
not one of your questions, maybe, it is but we've
talked about this reincarnation thing uh a few
times in different episodes do you think at this
point that you can opt out of reincarnation yes
but i think you have to graduate so you think
that you still have to do your you have to get
a passing grade Yes. You have to go to the Earth
Academy. Yes, I think you have to make full use
of it. So the full use is we're all going to
have different experiences. We're going to be
different sexes, different skin colors, different
economic background, different propensities.
And we're having these lifetimes for the experience
because we're knowing something through this
experience. And I believe that we're God's sense
receptors. So we're having lifetime after lifetime.
I think there is a graduation and it arises when...
you can create the life and have it, your vision
pans out for the way you want your life and you
haven't caused negative karma that's still pending
because then you'd have to come back and deal
with it. I mean, we've all caused negative karma
in this lifetime and you deal with it and you
have instant karma in this lifetime. So for me,
the graduation, just for this earth space, just
for this tiny little simulation, this is a paltry
little part of what the greater reality is. And
this is a training ground, I call it in my...
novel and yes there is a graduation and you've
got to be able to stay in alignment with the
source of love and everything that's good and
you have to control your mind to do that if you
can do that as joe dispenser said everything
will open up for you so i think we got to question
three you know who's god what is she about let
me let me read my answer to that one yeah so
what is uh Okay, by what means... Okay, so this
is slightly different. By what means can we know...
So did we do number three? I'm just going to...
Yeah, you answer that, but I'm going to give
you my answer. Okay. Turn on flashlight. Sorry,
guys, I needed to get my light on. I asked you
if you needed more light. No, I don't. I like
being in the dark. I'm a vampire. By what means
can we know what God did? And my answer was,
by merging science and spirituality, the Church
of the Light Ages integrates scientific evidence
which has achieved an obvious level of unanimous
consensus. So by what means can we know what
God is? It's the blending of religion and science.
Well, we have to, in order to answer the question,
by what means can we verify what God did? Is
that the wrong question for the answer? Well,
no. Well, I'm just, I'm saying. We have to presuppose.
I guess that plays back to what you just said.
By what means can we verify it? Well, we first
have to say what needs to be verified. Well,
that's what we've asked in the first two. What
is God and who is God and what is God? Right,
and then my answer was we're limited with the
time domain, so we have to navigate the time
domain. Well, that's what God did, though, because
God is outside of that and he's created this
little simulated reality. Right, and so... You
asked me that question, so I said, well, she
put this time domain on us. So the next question
is, how do we validate that? How do we validate
that? Right, okay, that's right. In my world,
the only way I can determine, the only way I
can validate the premise that she put this time
domain on us is to go outside of the time domain.
To experiment. Because you can't do an experiment
from within it. That's right. So I'm going to
restructure that question. That's great. That's
really helpful. Yeah, you have to go outside
of the experiment to do it. So that means that
I need to get out of the ocean to see what's
going on inside the ocean without disturbing
it. Because we have already seen, and you know
this with quantum entanglement, the observer...
influences the outcome. Well, the quantum entanglement
part is that you have one particle and you could
have another particle billions of light years
from here. When this one moves, this one is moving
at the same time. But there's this massive separation.
So it'd be like the starlings flying. You know
all the birds that fly in formation around up
here? Yeah, they're beautiful. I love them. They're
absolutely stunning. I love them. It's like that.
And that's the entanglement. We're entangled.
And what's going on over here is also going over...
over there and it's all linked up and it's not
they're not they don't need to be touching each
other so to answer the question how do we validate
it i don't know No, you know what? I wasn't talking
about entanglement. You know what? That's the
superposition. That was the next part of it.
The superposition is where the particles are.
And when one's moving here, this one's going
to be doing the same thing. Now, if you talk
about the quantum field, that you've got this
vision for your life and this massive thing that
you've orchestrated in your mind, they're all
moving in unison with each other. You know, it's
interesting you say that, but I really don't
have a very crystal clear vision of what this
is going to come. Like all these projects, I
know they're going to come together, but it's
not crystal clear to me. I'm just... You just
know this is your part four now to get this off
the ground. Because I was even thinking about
it. It's like somebody could actually steal these
projects from me and run with them, right? Of
course, yeah. And my thing is... That would suck
if that happened because I really want to be
part of the solution. I really want this. Can't
you patent them? But as long as somebody is doing
this stuff, I'm happy. That's good. Because this
is going to serve... It's going to serve mankind,
isn't it? It's a bigger deal going on. So a lot
of what I'm doing is there's the centralized
people that want to control the world. Well,
I'm a we the people person. So I'm like, all
that power you guys are trying to take, I'm trying
to break it up into pieces and give it to we
the people. Yes, love it. Robin Hood. Yeah, totally
Robin Hood. So, OK, what's next on your... Well,
we've got a question for, but let's wait for
next time for that one. Oh, for real? We're running
out of time already? Yeah, we're running out
of time already. But I've got like 100 of these,
so we can talk about whatever we want, but these
will come up, and I'm going to be refining these.
OK, right on. Yeah, so we'll just keep those.
So these are going to be the questions that,
rather than having... Well, she's been wonderful,
Rosie's been wonderful, but these... I'm going
to publish this. This will be my next book. This
will be the Catechism of Church of the Light
Ages. So you are listening to it, deciphering
it, dissecting it. You're growing with us. Yes,
that's right. So you can disclose this or not
disclose it, but once you have this catechism
in place... How does this thing evolve and how
does the world... Well, that's such a big question.
Let's wait for the next episode, but let's lead
with that. I can't wait till next time we have...
No, I'm just kidding. You'll bloody have to learn
some patience, won't you? I don't want to wait.
Patience is a virtue. I don't want to wait. So,
okay, y 'all. Well, you know, thanks for joining
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