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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join

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us as we wander off the path to find the ideas

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that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the

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mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with

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tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better

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life. Hello, everybody, and welcome. This is

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Dr. Tia Jolie. Phillips, you're listening to

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Soul Decodes. And guess what? It's episode number,

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there's a number here, 47. 47 already. I'm

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with Sarah Tirri She's my co -hostess. She's

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an author and a thinker, philanthropist. Hello,

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everyone. And we have a guest in the house. Yes,

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we do. So we have my niece, Jenya. This is Sally's

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daughter. Sally, I've spoken about on air, and

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she passed away seven months ago. So she's...

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Over here, and my son got married, so she was

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here for the wedding, and then we're going for

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a vacation to Mexico. So we're going to probably

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talk about the wedding. Yeah. Uh -oh, there's

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probably some stories there. Well, before we

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jump into it, I want to let everyone know you

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can find our stuff at souldecodes .com. I want

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to welcome in the house today Bangladesh. Oh.

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Bangladesh. I got stuck in a monsoon there once

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in a bus. Well, there's a story. No, it wasn't

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really. We pulled over and we had to just stay

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seated in this bus on the side of the road where

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the water was just, oh, it was nuts. But it was

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dramatic and exciting. Almost every place I mention,

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you've got a story. It's crazy talk. I was a

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flight attendant for British Airways. So I traveled

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the world when I was 20 to 25. And there's that.

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So that's awesome news. And then we also have

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North. york where in america or england toronto

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so welcome to north york in toronto yeah so that's

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exciting and then finally believe it or not we

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had all the areas around miami but we finally

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got miami oh nice like the dead center right

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downtown miami so love it my daughter was born

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in miami is another story You have a child born

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every place I mentioned. Every place, darling.

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They birthed every port. You're just bopping

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them out all over the place. Anyway, so there's

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that. And so we're getting going. Hopefully the

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mic levels are better today than last week. But

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get us going. What do you want to talk about

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today? Well, so last night, so I've just been

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renovating my house and I bought this new couch

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in green. And it's in the living room with the

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TV room. There's a big TV on the wall. I hadn't

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watched a movie since it was there, so Jenya

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and I decided to have a movie night. So we got

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blankets, we got our drinks and we sat down and

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then we bought this movie. Now, I'm not going

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to say what the title is, but I'm going to describe

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it. It's one word and it's a lady that stands

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on her toes and dances wearing a tutu. OK, that's

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the name of the movie. And I don't know what

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the body count of death was. What do you think,

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Jenya, at the end? Just the... So all it was...

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was a load of fucking people shooting each other,

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killing each other, graphically, violently, from

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start to finish. There was no psychological depth

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to any of it. And we were just sitting there.

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The only reason we finished it is because we're

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both very curious, but it wasn't gripping us.

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You're watching and saying, is there anything

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of redemption? Is there any redemption here?

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Is there anything redeeming? Yes. And then I

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just started to think this morning about... You

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wouldn't want to have an eight -year -old watch

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that because it's a massive desensitisation.

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You've just made killing just a banality. You've

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normalised it. Just normalised it. And that's

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absolutely awful, I thought. How have we? Because,

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I mean, there were rough shows when I was growing

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up, but nothing as graphic and as mindless as

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just brutal killing. And I think it sucks. I

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think it sucks that movies are produced like

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that. For what fucking reason? Thank you for

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not mentioning the name of it because I would

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never want to promote that in any aspect of it.

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No, I wouldn't either. It's just like such garbage.

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Nothing is not going to stimulate them. But it's

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the desensitization. You've just got to be careful

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because you become numb to things. You don't

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want to numb society. No, yeah, I mean, one thing

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I... Let me ask you a question. Do you know of

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any books that you've read in the past, besides

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your own, other books, where there was a movie

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that came out and the movie was better than the

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book? No, but I think that I can't remember.

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I think maybe one time, but generally no. Just

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like 99 % no. What about you, Jean? Can you remember

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a book or a movie that... No, I can't. So...

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I got to thinking about this, you know, because

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I've read some really, really good books. Like

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here's one of my best examples is a book called

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Atlas Shrugged. Have you ever heard of Atlas

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Shrugged? No. Okay. Girlfriend. What's the premise

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of it? There's multiple messages, but the idea

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is that there are... Is this non -fictional fiction?

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Well, I think it's pretty real. It depends on

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who you ask. It's written as fiction. Okay. But

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it's kind of set in the, I guess, the 40s and

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50s, right when America was getting mobilized.

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It might have been a little earlier, but it might

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have been earlier than that because the trains

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were getting in and the oil companies were getting.

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So it was probably earlier than that. But the

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thing is, it's been a long time since I read

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it, obviously. But it was actually one of the

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first gifts that Robin gave me. It was probably

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30 years ago. She gifted me this book. It's about

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this big. I still read it, even though there

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was no pictures. Yeah, I know. And it was a chapter

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book, but it was a really long read, but I finished

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it. Well, it must have been gripping. It was

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a good book. But when the actual movies came

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out, there was like a three -part movie, like

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a trilogy. I was pretty disappointed. I mean,

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it was good. But it was nowhere close to what

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the book was. Or what your imagination did with

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what the book conveyed to you. And that's what

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I was going to say. So probably your imagination

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was way superior than the people making it. And

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that's what I was going to say. When you're reading

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a book, you have a relationship with the author.

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The author is telling a story. But you have your

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eyes closed and you're literally creating the

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images in your own brain. Like when I read your

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books. The images I created in my brain are going

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to be different than anybody else's. Well, you

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listen to the star side prophecy, but when you're

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reading a book... Well, no, I read the other

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books too. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but when you're

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reading a book, you're still reliant, because

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I like to listen as well. I do both. So I can

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be there with my eyes closed, but I'll listen

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to nonfiction. But when I'm reading fiction,

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like you say, you have a relationship with the

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author. The author, if they're good, and your

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mum was really good at this, Jenny. Her mum was

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a poet. She could convey a scene. Then it's the

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interpretation of the person watching. So with

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you, you've just got all this imagery in your

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head about what he's writing about. And I think

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from reading you can get that, but the imagery

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on a movie, it's already there for you, isn't

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it? It's not like you have to do anything. You're

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just looking at that. Well, and that's the point

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is when you're watching a movie, it's somebody

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else's creation. It's their interpretation. And

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you're watching a derivative instead of the raw,

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what you're creating in your own mind. So it's

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probably disappointing to watch a movie from

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the book you've read then. Just watch a movie

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where you haven't read the book. And truthfully,

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that's why we don't watch many movies. We're

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constantly disappointed. Disappointed. It's like

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we're always disappointed. I would rather...

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What was one of your favorite movies? Do you

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have any just throughout your life? I mean, there

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would be different favorites. I used to have

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favorites when I was younger, but now that I

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know that most of our history is biased. Mangled.

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It's mangled. It's biased. It's flat out false.

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So I watched that video you sent me this morning.

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I didn't watch all of it. And that was the St.

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Charles Cathedral in Vienna. And it was very

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funny. I loved his sarcasm that night. And as

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he walked you through it, it was absolutely wonderful.

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And it really is mind boggling. that you have

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that massive cathedral. And he called it, we

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didn't have toilet paper back then. We were wiping

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our arses with our hands. We had donkeys. We

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didn't have power tools. And then suddenly this

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church gets erected by a 22 -year -old yokel

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boy. And it's like, it's madness. Because it's

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like, it really is. But his point is well taken.

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And then the plague happened. So it wiped loads

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of people out. I mean, it was, it is. When you

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do the historical forensics, there's almost nothing

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makes sense most of us just take things that

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well i learned this in fifth grade it must be

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the truth yeah and we never question it after

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that but that's bizarre in itself isn't it well

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i mean we just accept it i mean i can accept

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i could have accepted it because i wasn't around

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in the 17th century i'm not seeing it's not in

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my life i could just accept the narrative that

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they had they built that But I don't now, particularly,

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because when I look at it now, that's not even

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credible. It doesn't make sense that you could

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do that in such a short time with limited manpower.

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Well, I would encourage you. I think he's got...

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Like 97 of them. He's got a whole series of these.

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Yeah, so for those... He's very funny. For those

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questioning what this is about, you can find

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it on Rumble, I think, but there's other... It's

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probably in other places, but it's called...

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My Lunch Break. That's right. My Lunch Break.

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Yeah, it's a good title. And I don't know the

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individual that did it, but I've been watching

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his stuff really since his first. I think I watched

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his first one. I've not watched all 97, but he's

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got some really good stuff. And the idea is that,

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look. And you get good visuals. He's showing

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you really good pictures of these churches. So

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you get a visual feast as you're listening to

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this. It's both inductive and deductive reasoning.

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It's like, this is what you're being told. This

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is what the world. How credible is it? How in

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the world are we driving horses and buggies,

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wiping our butts with our hands? Dealing with

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plague. Dealing with the plague. Our life expectancy

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was only, what, 30 at most. In all of Vienna,

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you only had maybe 30 ,000 working -age, able

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-bodied people. And then the skill set. And your

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building. Who's the architect? Who came up with

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it? And you're going to have this competition.

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That's right. We're going to have a competition.

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Not just one palace, but there's four palaces.

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And we're going to have a competition because

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it'll take our mind off the plague. So anyway,

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that's good stuff. So you had the wedding and

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then it was the 4th of July weekend. Yes, I was

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peaceful. We didn't see any fireworks and I slept.

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You heard them. So she's in the cabana and it

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was just gunpowder going off all night long.

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So you get all that. I worry about the animals.

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We had a conversation about that. So this is

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interesting you bring that up because I used

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to, as a child, I used to love fireworks. I don't

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like hearing them. I like looking at them. They're

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loud. But even looking at them, when you know

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what the fireworks are... Okay, we're in Lake

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County, Florida. Lakes. Our lakes are the most

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beautiful thing we have going for us, right?

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It's Lake County. So here we are. We're going

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to take these explosives. And in order to make

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those colors, there are specific metals they

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use. And those metals are not friendly to fish.

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They're not friendly to humans. They're not friendly.

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So we're going to take these and we're going

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to blow them up over our lakes and let all the

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metal settle in the water. Yeah. That's like

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so not okay with me. Yeah, I think I agree with

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you. I've never really thought about that. I've

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loved them visually, but you're absolutely right.

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Yeah, just do some deep dives on those. Because

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we talked about it the following morning. It's

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like, what are the animals doing just with that

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noise? It's absolutely awful. But let alone all

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the components and shit that's going into the

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lake. So I have a friend of mine that... has

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not yet been paid by the city of Groveland for

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work he did a couple months ago. This guy's just

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paying, he's trying to pay his bills month to

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month to month. He's just a normal guy trying

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to pay his bills, and they're behind paying him.

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What do they owe him? A couple grand maybe, whatever.

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The point is, you're blowing off tens of thousands

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of dollars of fireworks. Yeah, at Lake David.

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At Lake David. Yeah. And this guy's still not

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paid yet. Yeah, that's such bullshit. That's

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a little bit of a problem. Yeah. But this is

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not just for here. This is all over the place.

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So what's happening now is we're entering this

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age of Aquarius. She's an Aquarian. Yeah. Little

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Jenny is an Aquarian. So now we have this, we're

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going from this. Age of Pisces. Pisces, structural

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thing. Now we're going, this is the creators.

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This is our time for creators. That was ego.

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This is now. Yeah. So now we're in this place

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where there's this reality check. It's like,

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okay, y 'all, that was fine for then, but this

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is a new world. Can we switch it up a bit? And

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we're switching it up. And now it's a time for

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us to start taking better care of each other,

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of the earth. Let's bring forth the arts. Let's

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bring forth the music, the poetry. The dancing.

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Let's bring forward the beautiful stuff. So it's

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a renaissance again, isn't it? Yeah, in a great

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way. Better than ever. But we don't need to be

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blowing each other up, dropping bombs on each

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other. We don't need to be in this scarcity mentality.

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Well, gosh, if I help Sarah become a multimillionaire,

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what's going to be there for me? No, it's not

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a zero -sum game. We've been taught that if Sarah

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wins, Tia Jolie loses. If Tia Jolie wins... Not

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in my world. No. Our world is one of helping

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each other, both of us succeeding. we're in a

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place now where we're like, no, we're smart,

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we're creative. If we work together, we can do

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a lot more than just one of us by ourselves.

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And I think that that's where we're going. Yes,

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it's a lost sensibility. And the other thing

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is, this is a... We were told to compete and

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get ahead and strive. Well, and that's a very

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ego, male, that's a male mindset. And when I

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say male, I'm not talking about watching your

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underwear. I'm just saying it's a... The energy

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associated with, it's the male dominance, the

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logical structural. Which is necessary. Which

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is necessary. But you've taken the piss out of

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things. But we've got to find the balance. Because

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right now, I was reading some excerpts. I have

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to do a deep dive on this. The Gospel of Mary.

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The Gospel of Mary. Oh my goodness. Mary Magdalene

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or the mother? Is it the girlfriend? Mary Magdalene,

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Jesus' girlfriend. I mean, you can name, it was

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Jesus' Concubine. See, and that's the BS that

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the modern world wants you to know. Well, that's

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the modern world. She was the harlot, wasn't

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she? And she's, yeah, she was always just painted

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in such a poor light. She couldn't have been

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the favor of all the disciples. She could not

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have been the favor because she was a woman.

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But the truth is when you go into, when you do

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the forensics and they're starting to piece together

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the gospel of Mary, you're finding that. She

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was the favorite of the disciples, and she was

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to receive his blessing to carry on after he's

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gone. Wow. Now, that would be a problem. In a

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patriarchal society. Not only patriarchal, but

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when you do the deep dive on the gospel of Mary,

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you're going to come unglued. I can't wait now.

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In a not a very good way. Oh, I can't wait to

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do this. So if you've got a link to send me,

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send it to me. Well, I'll have to dig back on

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it. That's fine. It's been about a week. Yeah,

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I would like to have a look at that. But we have

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to ask better questions. That's the whole point.

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So in my novel, The Star Side Prophecy, I'm Mary

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Magdalene. That's freaking cool. So you'll have

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to read it to find out. I don't remember putting

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that together. It was very subtle. Okay. It was

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very subtle. Because I read the book and I just

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didn't. And I was describing his death on the

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cross and I was doing it from me. And I remember

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I was talking about my life at Magdalene when

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he was on the cross and then his mother and his

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sister were there. So it was a very small part,

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but it's intense. And it doesn't actually come

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out for a while. I can't believe I missed that.

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I mean, that's like a really important part because

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to me. This whole discussion of the, you know,

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I'm not going to say I'm religious or spiritual,

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but, you know, there are a lot of archetypes.

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Oh, you're spiritual, darling, for God's sake.

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I'm soulful. Yeah, I think we're talking about

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the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, similar

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words. But, you know, there's a lot of these

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archetypal personifications that come out. And

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they come out in all across the world in different

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shapes and sizes. I'm not so much concerned or...

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I really don't care about what some isolated

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tribe thinks or feels about something. You know,

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whether it's the Canadians or Australians. It's

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the Kahwe tribe. It doesn't really matter. What

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we should be looking to do is, what do we see

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that's in common? What is the tribe in the Alaskan,

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you know, the Inuits, what did they see and perceive

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from their soulful self? soul decodes right what

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are they what are they decoding with their souls

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versus maybe the the people in polynesia right

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right very different cultures what do they have

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in common what are they yeah what are their best

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points right what are their progressive ideas

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so if you pull them out yeah because i think

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that in order for like you could my position

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is that we're all fractals each one of us is

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a soul fractal of the infinite so If you look

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at fractals, when you take an individual fractal,

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you can actually look at it and it's got the

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complete image of the whole within it. That's

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what a fractal is. But it's diluted. But when

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you bring them all together, just like a piece

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of a puzzle, you bring them together, the confluence

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of those fractals represents the whole. And that's

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God. Which is the one. The one. The source. The

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one. The source. Right? So you're going to, I

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think you're going to really like, you're going

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to really like the deep dive you do on Mary.

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Oh, I am. The gospel of Mary. Yeah. But there's

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other gospels. There's the gospel of Thomas.

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You know, there's, there's all. I've mentioned

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before that... Has someone put a new Bible together

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with all these Gospels and created 66 books?

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You could keep some of those. You could keep

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the Gospel. You could keep the writings of St

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Paul. But it seems to me there's enough information

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too. Well, what if the Bible had taken on this

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and then new books were put into it? Well, I

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think it's brilliant, hasn't it? I think we need

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to probably do that. We should do it. Smart books.

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Let's do smart books. But the other part of it

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is, you know, the closest... Complete Bible before

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the, you know, the Council of Nicaea in the 4th

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century. They had the Emperor Constantine, who

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was an absolute bastard, right? He just needed

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to unify people to control them. Well, he needed

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to take the power away from the people to centralize

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it. And give them a common religion. And if you

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disagree with this common religion that the Pope,

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not the Pope, that the Emperor put in place.

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We got a burning stake for you. Yes. Right? Yeah,

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do or die. Convert or die. Convert or die. So

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everything went underground. The best thing we

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can find right now that represents the complete

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unaltered, unadulterated so -called Bible would

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be the Ethiopian, the Ethiopian Bible. Right.

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I haven't looked at that, so I'm going to go

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on YouTube. Yeah, and I'm not going to pretend

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to know everything that's in there, but based

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on... Isn't Ethiopia the oldest civilization

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on the planet? It's before the Egyptians, the

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Phoenicians, the Ubudians. Ethiopia is the oldest

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culture I've heard. I don't know. It's interesting

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that they had a Bible. I'd like to know the differences

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in that. I think what we're going to find out

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in the next couple of years is the importance

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of Africa. uh in in our in our culture well they

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dug up this skeleton and she was a little thing

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and they called her lucy and apparently she was

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three million years old and um she looked just

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like a human but we're told biblically that what

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we was four thousand years before christ suddenly

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adam and eva in the garden of eden for six thousand

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years ago it's like it's just a joke to me yeah

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i think i'm excited that you're actually at a

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place where you're You're joining me to question

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the narratives? Oh, yeah. Well, I already did,

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and this is the best God could do. I already

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did that 20 years ago. This is a fucking joke,

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and this is why. You know, I got to thinking

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about that because I was watching this video.

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It came across my social media, and it showed

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clips of the 1970s, what it was like to be a

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child in the 70s. That's me. And we were such

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free -range kids. We were. There was, we didn't

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wear helmets. You know, the only thing mom and

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dad said was, my mom was like, when the street.

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Be home at 6 p .m. When the streetlight goes

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on, you're home. Oh, that's good. And there's

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dinner. Yeah. My mom had no clue where I was.

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None at all. I could have been 40 feet away or

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11 miles away. My mom. And nothing ever happened

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to us. Just nothing happened to us. There's not

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one thing I remember. I fell off my bike and

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needed some stitches under my chin. Other than

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that, it was all, we just had so much. Tony,

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my husband, refers to me as being quite feral.

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And he's right in a way. Nothing's changed. Nothing's

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changed. Because I had no structure. My mum was

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hardworking. She'd want us out of the house.

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She'd want a bit of peace and quiet. She had

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loads of jobs. She'd always cook meals and we

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were always taken care of. But other than that,

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we raised ourselves from a very young age. I

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could walk to the corner store that was about

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a quarter of a mile away at age five. Just got

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there by myself. So let's talk about being feral.

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What does that even mean? Because I was very

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much feral. For me, I didn't have any restrictions

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or boundaries, any guidance. I was just left

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alone to raise myself. I mean, I had school and

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I had parents and grandparents, so I was with

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a family structure, but nothing was required

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of me. I wasn't required to do anything, be anywhere,

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have any chores, absolutely nothing. And it was

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my mum's way, I think, of compensating for this

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horrible predicament that her choices had put

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us in. So it's like, just go and be free. And

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there was nothing demanded of me. It's so fascinating

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to hear you because I was in a very structured

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environment. Only within the context of the church,

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there was the church life, the school life, the

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family life had to be structured because we had

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a bunch of kids, right? And just a very small

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space because we weren't really rich or anything.

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We had to share rooms. Nobody had their own room.

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Everyone shared room. You literally had the same

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10 square feet. It was just, this is your space.

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These are your two drawers in the dresser. This

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is your two feet in the hanging space in the

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closet. That's it. So we really had to kind of...

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Did you keep it all tidy? Were you respectful

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of keeping this tiny room tidy? I emotionally

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blocked most of it, so I can't remember. Probably

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not then. But I do remember loving to go outside.

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I hated to be indoors. Both of my parents were

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smokers. So I spent as much time outside as we

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could. Well, I was always in trees climbing.

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We were outside. We were outside like all the

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time. We were fixing bicycles. We'd break them,

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we'd fix them. We'd break them, we'd fix them.

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And did you explore? Because I was a bit of an

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explorer. I'd take my bike around and I'd like

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looking at the creative side. Always, always.

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But you know what's fascinating? This is very

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different than today's world because in today's

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world, like what we used to do, if there was

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a moving truck, let's just say that three streets

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over, there was a moving truck. And they were

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downloading furniture into the house. First thing

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we would do is we would ride our bikes over there

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and see if there are any new kids. Oh, I thought

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you were going to offer to help. Oh, no, man.

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We'd want to see if there's new kids, man. Do

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you play baseball? Do you play softball? What

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do you do? Like we would literally be that curious.

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I remember when a girl, Samantha, my daughter's

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called Samantha. I wonder whether that's got

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anything to do with it. But she moved in next

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door and she was just a year younger than me.

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And that was great. I had this new friend. So,

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yeah. So we'd always just be very curious. And

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if there was something, if there was... And was

00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:08.779
it like a gang of you? Because if we were out,

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it was probably like four, about four or five

00:26:10.819 --> 00:26:12.839
of us would just be riding our bikes. Well, I

00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:16.200
mean, I think it changes over the years. My best

00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.759
friend, his name was PJ. Oh, yeah, you've talked

00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.640
about him. Yeah, he was my friend when we were

00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.119
young, but then he started drinking a lot and

00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.420
doing drugs and stuff. So I kind of created a

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:29.220
little bit of distance from that. I still loved

00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:30.839
him as a friend, but he just started hanging

00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.940
around new people. Therefore, so did I. So I

00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.299
think we change over the years. And, you know,

00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:40.619
this is one thing people don't get is friendships,

00:26:40.900 --> 00:26:45.039
central to friendships. Yes, there's mutual respect.

00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:50.079
There's those things. But friendships are based

00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:54.500
on common interests. And it's very difficult

00:26:54.500 --> 00:26:56.220
to have a group of friends if you don't have

00:26:56.220 --> 00:27:00.839
shared ideas about things or if you have the

00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.259
interest in learning things. For instance, I

00:27:03.259 --> 00:27:06.839
love my brothers. My one brother, I might talk

00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.119
to him once a year. I love him dearly, but we

00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:13.680
have nothing in common. If there was one thing

00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.519
in common, we would talk about it. You could

00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:17.700
anchor yourself around that. When the Detroit

00:27:17.700 --> 00:27:20.259
Lions football season starts, we'll probably

00:27:20.259 --> 00:27:22.160
have one thing in common. We'll talk about Lions

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.759
football. And was that throughout your life?

00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:27.819
No, I mean, we were musicians, we were athletes.

00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:31.160
So you did share interests when you were younger?

00:27:31.609 --> 00:27:33.849
Oh, for sure. I mean, the whole family, wherever,

00:27:34.049 --> 00:27:36.190
most of it was around the church because there

00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:38.470
was the church, the worship. And how's he with

00:27:38.470 --> 00:27:40.970
the church now? Is he a believer or an atheist?

00:27:41.109 --> 00:27:44.089
Don't know. No. Because you only speak to him

00:27:44.089 --> 00:27:46.849
once a year. I don't know. I'm well, my phone

00:27:46.849 --> 00:27:51.470
always rings in. But, you know, people have their

00:27:51.470 --> 00:27:57.509
worlds. Friendships are built on common interests.

00:27:57.730 --> 00:28:01.109
When we moved to Central Florida, Sarah, We knew

00:28:01.109 --> 00:28:06.190
zero people. We know hundreds of people now.

00:28:06.250 --> 00:28:08.910
I can literally pick up the phone right now and

00:28:08.910 --> 00:28:12.349
probably call 15 people. Hey, I need to move

00:28:12.349 --> 00:28:15.049
some things. Can you come and help me? Most of

00:28:15.049 --> 00:28:17.029
those would come and help, right? And you do

00:28:17.029 --> 00:28:20.250
the same. And I would do the same. Why? Because

00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:23.930
we mutual respect, mutual admiration, kindness.

00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:28.200
We're looking for those elements, those. those

00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.200
character traits that we want to see in others.

00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:34.140
So as we mature, we kind of say, yeah, that's

00:28:34.140 --> 00:28:36.240
the type of person I'll let in my inner circle.

00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.359
Maybe not the innermost circle, like you're not

00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.240
going to come in my bedroom, but certainly maybe

00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:43.779
we'll have you over for a dinner or lunch or

00:28:43.779 --> 00:28:47.440
something, right? So you just, as you get more

00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.880
familiar, familiar family, right? Familiar. You

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.180
let them closer and closer in your circles. There

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:56.160
have been people. Where we say, yeah, you get

00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.720
bumped out to the next line. You get bumped out

00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:01.799
to the next circle because you're misbehaving.

00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.319
I've done that. Most of all, it's when you're...

00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:07.460
It's an energetic disalignment for me. Yeah.

00:29:07.579 --> 00:29:10.240
And it's also when your actions and words don't

00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.339
match. Yeah. When your actions and words don't

00:29:13.339 --> 00:29:15.920
match. Yeah. Then that's just a veneer that you're...

00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.259
It's like, wait a minute, yeah, you need to bump

00:29:18.259 --> 00:29:20.900
out a circle till I figure this out. You just

00:29:20.900 --> 00:29:24.700
create that little distance. How to manage friendships

00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:27.579
one -on -one. It's not true. I don't think it's

00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:29.319
necessarily, you don't have to agree. I mean,

00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.519
you and I agree on most things, I think. There's

00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.319
some things we don't agree on. It's not like

00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.599
you have to agree with that person. They don't

00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:37.880
have to be like you, sound like you, look like

00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.200
you. But you do have to have, you can share.

00:29:43.429 --> 00:29:45.869
Or just share interests. I mean, my brother,

00:29:46.029 --> 00:29:48.450
Zhenya, says that I'm nothing like my brother.

00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:51.289
We're just not nothing alike. But we have to

00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:52.730
build a friendship, and we do, and we've known

00:29:52.730 --> 00:29:55.549
each other 50 years. We do have commonalities,

00:29:55.549 --> 00:29:57.250
because we've been through a lot together as

00:29:57.250 --> 00:30:00.309
kids. But I don't think you have to agree with

00:30:00.309 --> 00:30:02.910
someone. But to me, I've had a hard time making

00:30:02.910 --> 00:30:05.670
friends in Florida, because I'm not a Christian.

00:30:06.269 --> 00:30:10.450
In fact, I dismantle Christianity. So that was

00:30:10.450 --> 00:30:12.349
quite difficult for me to make friends because

00:30:12.349 --> 00:30:14.910
when someone got wind of that, I'm interpreted

00:30:14.910 --> 00:30:19.470
as being the Antichrist or heretical or I don't

00:30:19.470 --> 00:30:21.990
believe in Jesus died for my sins. I don't believe

00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:25.210
in any of that nonsense. So that was a blocker

00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:28.769
in forming friends in the Bible Belt, which is

00:30:28.769 --> 00:30:31.170
where we are. I do have two Christian friends

00:30:31.170 --> 00:30:33.089
and they know that I have nothing to do with

00:30:33.089 --> 00:30:36.190
their belief system. So that's nice. That was

00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:38.730
an issue moving here because I was considered

00:30:38.730 --> 00:30:40.750
very radical in my beliefs and people didn't

00:30:40.750 --> 00:30:43.369
want to hear them. And I ended up not sharing

00:30:43.369 --> 00:30:45.190
them. It was just, this is what I believe. I

00:30:45.190 --> 00:30:46.690
don't care whether you believe what I believe.

00:30:46.750 --> 00:30:48.730
I'm just going to live in my quantum field and

00:30:48.730 --> 00:30:50.950
try and manage it. I think it's lovely. And I

00:30:50.950 --> 00:30:53.269
think you're going to, again, love the Gospel

00:30:53.269 --> 00:30:57.890
of Mary. One of the things that, I don't want

00:30:57.890 --> 00:30:59.950
to do a spoiler alert, but I want you to know

00:30:59.950 --> 00:31:03.150
that one of the messages that was forbidden to

00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:06.500
get out. was that there's no such thing as sin

00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:09.599
yeah that was the biggest controlling mechanism

00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:13.160
there's ever been make a whole you populace of

00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.259
people feel shitty about themselves right out

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:18.500
the gate yeah so when you read so that was a

00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:21.140
major message so any of the gospels that said

00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:24.460
because jesus shared with mary there is no sin

00:31:24.460 --> 00:31:27.880
there's sin does not exist no it's a control

00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.829
mechanism yeah and that's why you've got pissed

00:31:30.829 --> 00:31:33.529
off at the Sadducees and Pharisees because they

00:31:33.529 --> 00:31:36.690
had this legal structure, this, if you do this,

00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:39.430
this happens. All of these codes and these guidelines

00:31:39.430 --> 00:31:42.109
and these, you know, these laws and rules and

00:31:42.109 --> 00:31:46.420
regulations. And Jesus is like, I don't know

00:31:46.420 --> 00:31:48.799
what you're talking about. That's not. I mean,

00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.160
the concept of sin and that someone else is going

00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.339
to pay the price for it and has done and they

00:31:53.339 --> 00:31:55.779
were the scapegoat. So Zhenya and I were talking

00:31:55.779 --> 00:31:58.240
on the way over here and she was telling me about

00:31:58.240 --> 00:31:59.859
some of the stories because she was bullied when

00:31:59.859 --> 00:32:02.940
she was at school. And one of them was that,

00:32:03.019 --> 00:32:06.019
I think it was one where she was tied to, I can't

00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:08.099
remember which one it was, but she had a few

00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:10.960
anyway. So she was bullied in this classroom

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.299
and she was sent to another classroom and the

00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:16.200
teacher stood up. in the class that she left

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.539
behind. And they said, where's Jenya? Where's

00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:21.460
Jenya? And the teacher said, well, you've bullied

00:32:21.460 --> 00:32:23.980
her so she's been sent to another classroom.

00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:26.980
And I just thought how fucked up that was. But

00:32:26.980 --> 00:32:30.099
it's not unalike. She's now the scapegoat for

00:32:30.099 --> 00:32:32.359
some bullshit that she didn't create. It's so

00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:38.660
interesting because when I was in West Palm Beach,

00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:41.420
I was a brand new bass player and I played bass

00:32:41.420 --> 00:32:48.240
for a band. They were a good band. But the members

00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.339
of the band oftentimes didn't behave themselves

00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:55.740
as band members sometimes don't do. What, sex,

00:32:55.859 --> 00:32:57.160
drugs, rock and roll type of misbehavior? That

00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.880
type of thing. But this was a little worse. Like,

00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:03.740
I'm going to beat my wife and kid. So it was

00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:06.460
just a really ugly place to be. And as a brand

00:33:06.460 --> 00:33:08.119
new bass player, I just wanted to play music.

00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.680
But when I saw things going a little bit south,

00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.150
I basically... Started distancing myself, suggesting

00:33:15.150 --> 00:33:17.170
that maybe they need to replace the bass player,

00:33:17.349 --> 00:33:22.690
which would be me. And they wanted to add more

00:33:22.690 --> 00:33:25.549
rehearsals during the week because we were already

00:33:25.549 --> 00:33:30.450
doing one two -hour rehearsal. But during that

00:33:30.450 --> 00:33:33.190
two -hour rehearsal, 30 minutes of it was out

00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:36.329
smoking weed. So I'm like, well, my statement

00:33:36.329 --> 00:33:39.450
was, I don't mind adding another rehearsal, but

00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:42.390
let's make this first one. more effective. Let's

00:33:42.390 --> 00:33:43.829
get the full two hours out of this. After they

00:33:43.829 --> 00:33:45.809
smoked this weed, were they more creative and

00:33:45.809 --> 00:33:47.690
played better when they came back in? If you

00:33:47.690 --> 00:33:50.690
ask them. Yeah, of course. If you ask them, yes.

00:33:50.970 --> 00:33:53.789
But the point is what happened was I said, look,

00:33:53.910 --> 00:33:57.349
I'm not going to, I'm not going to commit. Add

00:33:57.349 --> 00:33:59.549
more time. I'm not going to commit another night

00:33:59.549 --> 00:34:02.230
of my life because back then I was still flying

00:34:02.230 --> 00:34:04.670
airplanes. For their weed break. So one evening

00:34:04.670 --> 00:34:07.190
was a big deal for me because I was a career

00:34:07.190 --> 00:34:12.619
airline pilot. So as a career airline pilot,

00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.639
your days off are precious. So I just basically

00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.639
said, I made the statement in rehearsal, listen,

00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.440
I'm not going to do another day of rehearsal

00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.539
until we get this day productive. We can be more

00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:32.860
productive here. How was that received? Well,

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:36.019
the wife beater, lead singer, went up to me and

00:34:36.019 --> 00:34:39.269
basically said, you're coming Thursday or you're

00:34:39.269 --> 00:34:43.409
out of the band. What did you do? I didn't say

00:34:43.409 --> 00:34:46.849
a word. I took my bass guitar off my shoulder,

00:34:46.989 --> 00:34:50.909
put it in my case, snapped my case shut, walked

00:34:50.909 --> 00:34:53.949
out. Not even a word. Nice and dramatic though.

00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:55.750
Not even a word. Wordless but dramatic. Not even

00:34:55.750 --> 00:34:59.010
a word. Yeah. I was not even to my car and the

00:34:59.010 --> 00:35:00.849
drummer and the guitar player are like, no, no,

00:35:00.869 --> 00:35:04.300
don't go, don't. Because these were... These

00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:06.039
were baselines. And did they persuade you or

00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.340
did you just say, no, I'm done? No. That was

00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:10.280
it for you? I'm like, done. I can't do this.

00:35:10.380 --> 00:35:13.860
Nobody threatens me. Yeah. Zero people. Good

00:35:13.860 --> 00:35:15.980
for you. Those people are not the ones that were

00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:18.559
supposed to come out. Yeah. And I told them both,

00:35:18.619 --> 00:35:23.500
I said, and I wrote a poem, a very lengthy poem

00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:26.179
after that because I was so angry. Maybe I'll

00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:27.559
make a song out of it someday. I'd love to read

00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:31.239
it. But it was called... Basically, the concept,

00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.980
and it's been years, it's been 20 years probably,

00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.980
but the concept of the song is, the song was

00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:41.699
called You're the Bully Too. In other words,

00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:46.539
if you permit somebody to be a bully, you are

00:35:46.539 --> 00:35:49.579
the bully. So the aiding and abetting gives you

00:35:49.579 --> 00:35:52.920
the same status. If you don't intervene, because

00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.440
both of those people that came out after me,

00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:57.659
should have been the ones that said to the lead

00:35:57.659 --> 00:35:59.840
singer, don't talk to her like that. You need

00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.079
to stand down. Absolutely. You're the one that's

00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.739
wrong. Yeah. You're the one that's winning, so

00:36:05.739 --> 00:36:08.340
you need to be quiet and apologize and let's

00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:10.239
get this band back together because the bass

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.719
player just walked out and you're not going to

00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:14.340
go very far without the bass player, right? Who

00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:17.800
made 25... So you were quite irritated at them

00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:19.199
then because they just didn't do anything, they

00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.420
were just passive. I was almost ready to go anyway.

00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:24.599
So that was just the tripwire that said, yeah,

00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.809
I'm done. Because you can only take so much.

00:36:26.989 --> 00:36:30.329
If there's one error I make, I hang in there

00:36:30.329 --> 00:36:33.929
too long. I hang in friendships and stuff way

00:36:33.929 --> 00:36:35.329
longer than I should. So you've seen the red

00:36:35.329 --> 00:36:37.429
flags and you've seen it all come. I was just

00:36:37.429 --> 00:36:40.289
looking for the reason to go. But the point is,

00:36:40.429 --> 00:36:44.489
the song was to the bystanders, the observers.

00:36:44.909 --> 00:36:47.489
Those people in the classroom should have stood

00:36:47.489 --> 00:36:51.199
up, but they've been trained to stand down. You

00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.280
know, so the victim gets isolated. Isolated,

00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.210
exiled. Exiled. Yeah. And then the bullies learn...

00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:02.010
And then the teacher just said, she's not in

00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:03.929
this class because you bullied her, but then

00:37:03.929 --> 00:37:06.809
there was no punishment for the bullies. I mean,

00:37:06.829 --> 00:37:09.670
what psychological nonsense is the teacher even...

00:37:09.670 --> 00:37:12.949
Absolutely awful. Right. Luckily for Zhenya,

00:37:12.989 --> 00:37:14.530
though, she preferred it in the class she went

00:37:14.530 --> 00:37:17.210
to, so it kind of worked out okay. But that is

00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:22.179
just crazy. So we need to be... And we are in

00:37:22.179 --> 00:37:24.119
a place now where we need to be more empathetic.

00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.000
We need to stand up. We need to come into our

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.860
power. So being a bully would be one way to,

00:37:29.940 --> 00:37:33.579
like, you observe a bully, observing that bully

00:37:33.579 --> 00:37:36.179
and standing up and saying, it doesn't have to

00:37:36.179 --> 00:37:38.139
be, you don't have to be a jerk about it. You

00:37:38.139 --> 00:37:41.139
can just go, stop, stop. That's not okay. Years

00:37:41.139 --> 00:37:45.000
ago, before Zhenya came to us in 2006, it was

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.739
a couple of years before that, someone had put

00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:51.320
a Molotov cocktail at the, it was an Indian restaurant

00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.780
down the end of New Road in Shoreham. And so

00:37:53.780 --> 00:37:56.360
they'd put this Molotov cocktail and Mark was

00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:59.059
really upset because he, that's my brother, and

00:37:59.059 --> 00:38:01.260
he knew these people. So he had a friend called

00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:03.320
Mickey. Now Mickey was an acrobat and he was

00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.739
really, he had big guns and he could kick the

00:38:05.739 --> 00:38:07.539
shit out of you. You said an acrobat? Acrobat.

00:38:08.139 --> 00:38:10.699
Like an acrobat? Yeah, he tumbled. He could backflip

00:38:10.699 --> 00:38:12.699
across the room. I mean, this guy was a ninja.

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.500
So my brother, so Mickey and Mark went to this,

00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.019
they found out who it was and went round to their

00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:22.800
house and stood up to them and said, do you ever

00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.340
fucking do this again? And I think Mickey might

00:38:25.340 --> 00:38:27.780
have given him a bit of a punch in the gut. But

00:38:27.780 --> 00:38:30.940
Mark and Mickey stood up and made sure that this

00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:33.539
Pakistani, or it was an Indian or Pakistani restaurant,

00:38:33.619 --> 00:38:36.079
this didn't happen again. But they were willing

00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.440
to get hurt in order to... to stand up and prevent

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:39.900
that, because they could have got the shit kicked

00:38:39.900 --> 00:38:42.059
out of them. But he went round to the house,

00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.940
like, this is not happening, because Shoreham

00:38:43.940 --> 00:38:46.300
was a lovely, beautiful community, and this was

00:38:46.300 --> 00:38:49.099
terrible that this happened. So he stood up for

00:38:49.099 --> 00:38:50.820
it, but most people wouldn't have done that.

00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.780
They had a Molotov cocktail stuck in their letterbox,

00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.719
and no one would do anything. They would just

00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.980
carry on with their lives. So on one end, we've

00:38:58.980 --> 00:39:02.280
got the people that are permitting the bullying,

00:39:02.340 --> 00:39:08.199
but nobody walked out. with the person that was

00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.260
injured to be with her. Nobody did that. And

00:39:13.260 --> 00:39:16.599
I think we need to be mindful as empathetic people

00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:20.119
that we can demonstrate the correct behavior

00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:24.320
by actually walking out. Here's an example. Last

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.860
week, I was in a chamber meeting. It was just

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:31.280
the morning coffee. And you know, there's probably

00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.679
50 people there. And I go just because it's social.

00:39:35.099 --> 00:39:36.639
You know, when you live on the farm, your closest

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.239
neighbor is a horse. You need to have some social,

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:41.840
right? So it took me about three months to join

00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.059
the chamber because I don't really have a business

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:46.099
interest there, but I do have an interest in

00:39:46.099 --> 00:39:49.420
meeting other people and just hanging out, just

00:39:49.420 --> 00:39:53.420
being social. And so everyone goes around the

00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:55.460
room and just says who they are and what they

00:39:55.460 --> 00:39:59.119
do. And this one girl, she was her first time

00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.559
there. Nobody, nobody ever saw her. She was like

00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:08.170
two people over from me. She was speaking and

00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:11.650
she started, something she said was very emotional.

00:40:11.670 --> 00:40:14.489
She started crying while she was speaking, right?

00:40:14.650 --> 00:40:17.130
Now, I don't know what the trigger was. I don't

00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:19.389
know what the thing was, but it had to do with

00:40:19.389 --> 00:40:23.170
her child. So she was speaking. Her reference

00:40:23.170 --> 00:40:25.969
was to her child and the difficulties they're

00:40:25.969 --> 00:40:28.809
facing with her child. And she started crying.

00:40:29.550 --> 00:40:34.190
So now this is a business chamber, right? But

00:40:34.190 --> 00:40:37.929
we're people first. So I was like three, I guess

00:40:37.929 --> 00:40:40.670
I was maybe five people away. So I walked behind

00:40:40.670 --> 00:40:43.710
four people in front of her, like, and I gave

00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:46.750
her a hug. Yeah, nice. And I said, you're okay.

00:40:46.769 --> 00:40:49.469
We got this. That's nice. We got this. So I just

00:40:49.469 --> 00:40:52.329
hugged her and she thanked me. She whispered.

00:40:52.329 --> 00:40:57.909
She said, thank you. Like, forget the Chamber

00:40:57.909 --> 00:41:00.409
of Commerce. Forget that you're a plumber, painter,

00:41:00.670 --> 00:41:04.409
attorney. I don't. realtor. I don't give a rat's

00:41:04.409 --> 00:41:07.769
ass who you are. You've got a person here that's

00:41:07.769 --> 00:41:11.630
hurt. She's injured. She's crying. Somebody needs

00:41:11.630 --> 00:41:14.110
to get off their ass and go hug her. And it doesn't

00:41:14.110 --> 00:41:17.469
always have to be me. So what I wanted to do

00:41:17.469 --> 00:41:20.630
is demonstrate this is how you take care of people.

00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.340
This is how you take care of people. And that's

00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:25.800
a spontaneous thing for you. You'd want to do

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:27.500
that. You'd want to console someone. Every time.

00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:29.320
But most people would just squirm because it's

00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:30.920
an uncomfortable situation. We're at the Chamber

00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.820
of Commerce and it's informal. So how did it

00:41:33.820 --> 00:41:36.940
play out with her? Did she recover and able to

00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:40.360
talk about her business? She was able to hold

00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.559
it together for her 30 seconds. So I went right

00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:46.039
after she finished. As she was finishing, I was

00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.219
already walking over to her. That's good. But

00:41:48.219 --> 00:41:52.670
the point is, you know, Be the person you wish

00:41:52.670 --> 00:41:55.070
society would embody. You have to be that person.

00:41:55.309 --> 00:41:58.210
In both scenarios in that classroom, there was

00:41:58.210 --> 00:42:01.389
the room of bullies plus the teacher. The room

00:42:01.389 --> 00:42:04.710
of bullies, that's what I said. Because until

00:42:04.710 --> 00:42:07.909
they opt out of that system and go help the person

00:42:07.909 --> 00:42:10.510
that was injured, they remain the bully. They

00:42:10.510 --> 00:42:12.769
either need to intervene and say, no, that's

00:42:12.769 --> 00:42:16.469
not okay. We want Zhenya back. We want Zhenya

00:42:16.469 --> 00:42:21.059
back. That's the correct action. The second correct

00:42:21.059 --> 00:42:23.159
action was, well, if that's not going to happen,

00:42:23.179 --> 00:42:25.440
I'm going in that room with her. Right. So she's

00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.820
not sitting there alone. Yeah. That's the second

00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:31.239
correct action. It's so interesting. I think

00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:32.699
with young children, I think you're all about

00:42:32.699 --> 00:42:35.179
10. Jen, was this around 10 years old? Yeah.

00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.980
So they're little 10 -year -olds sitting there.

00:42:38.099 --> 00:42:41.289
But it would be nice for them to have... This

00:42:41.289 --> 00:42:43.630
would just be, what would you do if this was

00:42:43.630 --> 00:42:46.050
happening? So it doesn't have to happen, but

00:42:46.050 --> 00:42:47.789
you just put this to the children. Okay, like

00:42:47.789 --> 00:42:50.269
we just present this. And then talk them through

00:42:50.269 --> 00:42:53.250
what it means to be a civilized, loving human

00:42:53.250 --> 00:42:56.190
being. But no one's done that, obviously. Well,

00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:58.630
I think it starts with, you know, I mentioned

00:42:58.630 --> 00:43:01.429
this before, the words en la cash a la quien.

00:43:02.110 --> 00:43:03.750
Do you remember me mentioning those words? Yes,

00:43:03.750 --> 00:43:05.670
I do. I don't remember what it means. En la cash

00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:08.050
a la quien. It's an Aztec greeting that says.

00:43:08.929 --> 00:43:11.650
When I see you, I see the light within you. And

00:43:11.650 --> 00:43:14.449
I recognize you as another one of myself. So

00:43:14.449 --> 00:43:17.409
that's like namaste. It's a derivative of namaste.

00:43:17.530 --> 00:43:20.530
But the idea is when I see your light, I greet

00:43:20.530 --> 00:43:24.269
the light. And when somebody is being ushered

00:43:24.269 --> 00:43:26.469
out of the room for being the victim of bullying,

00:43:26.829 --> 00:43:30.429
that's a piece of light that's leaving you. And

00:43:30.429 --> 00:43:33.030
you need to go connect that light and keep that

00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:36.570
light spun up and burning. So I think as we learn

00:43:36.570 --> 00:43:38.429
to treat each other... Do you want to tell me,

00:43:38.449 --> 00:43:40.349
should I give a shout out to the teacher that

00:43:40.349 --> 00:43:43.449
fucked up? I'm just kidding. That's not a shout

00:43:43.449 --> 00:43:45.309
out, that's a shout down. She's cringing, she's

00:43:45.309 --> 00:43:49.409
laughing but cringing. But I will say that that

00:43:49.409 --> 00:43:52.630
was an important foundational experience. Well,

00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:54.590
that's what we talked about. All of this has

00:43:54.590 --> 00:43:56.349
actually made you who you are. What does that

00:43:56.349 --> 00:43:59.969
mean today? Earlier today, Robin, she was on

00:43:59.969 --> 00:44:03.170
the way to Tampa to support some of her people

00:44:03.170 --> 00:44:06.780
in Tampa. We were just talking just prior to

00:44:06.780 --> 00:44:12.119
the show. And she's listening to a podcast and

00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.860
there's a SEAL Team 6 member who's talking about

00:44:15.860 --> 00:44:21.659
PTSD and the use of Ibogaine. What's Ibogaine?

00:44:21.739 --> 00:44:25.360
Ibogaine is a, I believe it to be a root. From

00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.679
India. Oh, okay. A plant. It's a plant or a root

00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.039
or a derivative from a root. I'm not really sure

00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:32.840
what it is. Maybe it's Central or South America.

00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.840
Do you put it in a tea? Do you brew it? I don't

00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.599
know, but you isolate some of the compounds.

00:44:37.860 --> 00:44:40.940
And when you have somebody that's suffering neurologically,

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.880
whether it's from abuse or PTSD or maybe it's

00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.559
a substance abuse problem, it helps normalize

00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.090
the brain. wow and it does it really quickly

00:44:51.090 --> 00:44:54.590
but not in maximum doses so it's not like an

00:44:54.590 --> 00:44:58.050
ayahuasca trip right you do micro doses so you're

00:44:58.050 --> 00:45:00.289
going to hear more and more about ibogaine because

00:45:00.289 --> 00:45:02.969
texas is really leaning forward so is this sold

00:45:02.969 --> 00:45:06.530
in in a pill or is this something you'd buy as

00:45:06.530 --> 00:45:08.889
as the root and then you need right now you need

00:45:08.889 --> 00:45:11.849
a practitioner right so how's it being sold though

00:45:11.849 --> 00:45:14.989
is it something you would smoke or ingest just

00:45:14.989 --> 00:45:18.349
the opposite the dumb ass the dumb ass lawmakers

00:45:18.349 --> 00:45:21.570
in the the so -called United States of America

00:45:21.570 --> 00:45:25.090
Corporation, they don't want this legalized because

00:45:25.090 --> 00:45:27.869
it challenges the drug system. So where can we

00:45:27.869 --> 00:45:30.809
get some? I'd like to try this. So I told Robin.

00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:34.369
I told Robin. You try it with me, darling. We'll

00:45:34.369 --> 00:45:35.849
see what happens to our brain. Well, I told Robin.

00:45:36.329 --> 00:45:39.010
So first of all, the guy talking was a special

00:45:39.010 --> 00:45:45.030
operator, SEAL Team 6, in Texas. And he has huge

00:45:45.030 --> 00:45:49.739
relief from using ibogaine, microdosis. Under

00:45:49.739 --> 00:45:51.840
controlled care. It's not something, it's not

00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.559
a vitamin you pop. It's controlled care microdosis.

00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:56.920
And I told Rob and I said, I need to know the

00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.260
person, the contact person. I'm going to get

00:45:59.260 --> 00:46:01.659
a hold of them and do that in Florida. I want

00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:04.719
to get that in Florida. Good. People from all

00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:06.820
across Florida can come. I'll set up a circle

00:46:06.820 --> 00:46:09.280
of people. What, will you grow it? Well, I don't

00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.539
think you can grow it here. I'd import it. Yeah,

00:46:11.579 --> 00:46:13.800
you can import it. Unless it grows here. If it

00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.480
grows here, I'll grow it. But I don't think it

00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.739
grows here. You know that fruit that I gave you,

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.559
the seeds, the pits that I gave you last week?

00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.760
I already got them sprouting. I've got mine sprouting.

00:46:22.019 --> 00:46:24.000
Did they sprout? Yeah, mine did. How long did

00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.440
it take? Well, I put them, I left them in a big

00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:28.760
thing of water outside and then the rain kept

00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.219
taking the water out because we'd had so much

00:46:31.219 --> 00:46:33.659
rain over the last three days. And then I put

00:46:33.659 --> 00:46:37.559
them in, as they were cracking, in a towel, a

00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.659
big beach towel, and I cut with it and it was...

00:46:39.690 --> 00:46:42.289
covered the beach towel in water so it's dark

00:46:42.289 --> 00:46:44.949
and wet lifted it off and they're all just just

00:46:44.949 --> 00:46:47.590
crazy that's exciting because i i took them this

00:46:47.590 --> 00:46:50.110
is the very same day i put them in water the

00:46:50.110 --> 00:46:52.170
little shoot well i don't have any shoots oh

00:46:52.170 --> 00:46:58.530
okay i made it happen quickly okay so um so anyway

00:46:58.530 --> 00:47:00.690
this ibogaine is going to be a really big deal

00:47:00.690 --> 00:47:04.630
because people with substance abuse issues yeah

00:47:04.630 --> 00:47:09.550
it's the It normalizes their brain so the addiction

00:47:09.550 --> 00:47:15.230
part of it gets normalized. I would love to try

00:47:15.230 --> 00:47:17.250
it and see what effect it has. I love experimenting

00:47:17.250 --> 00:47:19.489
with my consciousness. It's interesting because

00:47:19.489 --> 00:47:22.730
the guy that was talking, the CLTM6 person, said,

00:47:22.849 --> 00:47:25.369
this is fascinating because it affects me. This

00:47:25.369 --> 00:47:28.670
is exactly what happened to me. When I was younger,

00:47:28.789 --> 00:47:32.230
the things we did in the military, the operations,

00:47:32.510 --> 00:47:36.369
was just part of the job. But it's not here until

00:47:36.369 --> 00:47:39.289
20 and 30 years later. It becomes troubling.

00:47:39.610 --> 00:47:43.670
40 years later that the nightmares come and it

00:47:43.670 --> 00:47:46.030
becomes really problematic. So I told Robin,

00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:48.849
I said, I want this for me too. Yeah, I want

00:47:48.849 --> 00:47:51.030
to try it. Let's all try it and see. Because

00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:53.349
I need to study a little bit more. I'd like to

00:47:53.349 --> 00:47:55.630
study myself. I'd have to be at home in clinical

00:47:55.630 --> 00:47:58.090
conditions. I'd have to be in my bedroom. And

00:47:58.090 --> 00:48:01.050
I just want to see what, because I can turn my

00:48:01.050 --> 00:48:03.130
attention inwards, what's going on with this.

00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:04.989
Well, it would be more than... There would be

00:48:04.989 --> 00:48:07.550
a clinician. So I've got a bunch of medical doctors

00:48:07.550 --> 00:48:11.230
and practitioners. You'd actually go to a clinician.

00:48:11.469 --> 00:48:14.210
Okay, so I'd like to do that. If I can get it

00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:17.190
here in Florida, I might need to just pound down

00:48:17.190 --> 00:48:20.309
the governor's door and talk about it. So they

00:48:20.309 --> 00:48:23.010
have it in Texas then? They're pushing hard in

00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:25.730
Texas, but they have legislators that are opening

00:48:25.730 --> 00:48:28.030
the door to it. So if we can do it in Florida,

00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:30.429
I really would love to do it in Florida. I love

00:48:30.429 --> 00:48:32.829
that. It's right up your street. Well, there's

00:48:32.829 --> 00:48:35.409
so many of us that have suffered. Yes. But it

00:48:35.409 --> 00:48:37.949
doesn't even have to be that you have PTSD in

00:48:37.949 --> 00:48:39.750
the way that you did. And I know that was terrible.

00:48:40.070 --> 00:48:42.309
There's other things that you can get PTSD from

00:48:42.309 --> 00:48:44.489
in life generally. True. So it could just be

00:48:44.489 --> 00:48:47.030
a micro dose of something that's going to give

00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:49.190
you some mental inner peace that you were lacking

00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:51.980
before. Just like a little vitamin. St. John's

00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:54.760
Wort or something. So I'm loving that. And that

00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:56.500
to you, let's talk about being a serial entrepreneur,

00:48:56.860 --> 00:48:59.320
darling. There's another business for you. Well,

00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.159
so here's what I'm going to suggest. I'm wondering

00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.400
if you could take that list, while we're talking

00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:09.519
about this topic, let her pick a question that

00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.400
she would like us to address. And she can point

00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:14.519
to it and we'll talk about it. All right, I'll

00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:19.820
read it out. You know, this whole thing, we're

00:49:19.820 --> 00:49:23.099
at a place now where we, the people, are bringing

00:49:23.099 --> 00:49:26.239
power back to us. We're no longer going to permit

00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.000
stupid politicians to make stupid decisions.

00:49:29.300 --> 00:49:31.679
And one of the things, like I want to grow hemp.

00:49:31.860 --> 00:49:34.860
I want to grow industrial hemp. When you start

00:49:34.860 --> 00:49:37.880
studying the value of hemp and hemp fibers, like

00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.760
one of the things you and I talked about is having,

00:49:39.860 --> 00:49:43.099
I would love to find a bunch of people who are

00:49:43.099 --> 00:49:45.460
really skilled with putting together clothing.

00:49:46.570 --> 00:49:49.429
And I want to get them whatever natural fibers

00:49:49.429 --> 00:49:52.409
they want, whatever they need, put them in a

00:49:52.409 --> 00:49:54.429
place that they're cool and comfortable and taken

00:49:54.429 --> 00:49:58.210
care of, and tell them, create. Create things

00:49:58.210 --> 00:50:01.070
with these beautiful fibers. It could be clothing

00:50:01.070 --> 00:50:06.289
or linens or furnishings, whatever you want to

00:50:06.289 --> 00:50:11.050
do. But I want natural fibers. Selfishly, I'd

00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:13.300
like... I'd like someone to be able to tailor

00:50:13.300 --> 00:50:15.820
for tall, we talked about this, for tall women.

00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.199
Yes. I still want a duster. I want a duster that's

00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.500
freaking beautiful and long. So hang on, what's

00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:24.880
a duster? Is that a muumuu? What's a duster?

00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.699
Oh no, a duster is, it's... A gown? Think of

00:50:28.699 --> 00:50:31.320
it like a trench coat. Oh, okay. But it goes

00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.280
all the way to the ground. Oh, I like that. So

00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.159
all you, like it literally goes straight to the

00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.360
ground. Yeah, very Keanu Reeves, like very...

00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:41.909
Very much, very much like that, so. But I totally

00:50:41.909 --> 00:50:43.909
want one, but I don't want it synthetic. I want

00:50:43.909 --> 00:50:46.690
it the real deal. Oh, I can see that. Right down

00:50:46.690 --> 00:50:48.409
to the ground. Right down. Hooded shoulders,

00:50:48.670 --> 00:50:50.690
black. And you got your boots. You've got your

00:50:50.690 --> 00:50:53.130
boots and you've got your dark glasses. You got

00:50:53.130 --> 00:50:56.630
your boots from Alberta, Canada, our newest state.

00:50:57.250 --> 00:50:59.429
God. So tell me about that. What do you mean

00:50:59.429 --> 00:51:02.090
by that? Have you picked a question? Number 10.

00:51:02.230 --> 00:51:05.730
Number 10. Okay. Alberta is really kind of exerting

00:51:05.730 --> 00:51:10.099
their authority against the centralized. You

00:51:10.099 --> 00:51:20.460
just rolled your eyes. Jesus Christ. You did

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:25.619
have a pick. Don't read it yet. Alberta, Canada.

00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.059
We're going to go squirrel in a minute and then

00:51:28.059 --> 00:51:32.579
we'll wrap up. The Canadian government out of

00:51:32.579 --> 00:51:35.849
Ottawa. It's been so oppressive to its members,

00:51:35.929 --> 00:51:40.010
to its provinces, that several of the western

00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:44.369
provinces, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, and

00:51:44.369 --> 00:51:49.550
Alberta, to name a few, are disgusted. They're

00:51:49.550 --> 00:51:52.489
like, y 'all are doing everything your way, and

00:51:52.489 --> 00:51:55.349
there's nothing in it for us. We can do better

00:51:55.349 --> 00:51:57.590
for ourselves than you're doing for us. It's

00:51:57.590 --> 00:52:00.289
a rebellion. And it's awesome. It's basically

00:52:00.289 --> 00:52:05.570
the 1776. Americans saying, F you, we're on our

00:52:05.570 --> 00:52:08.989
own. So there's this big thing now about whether

00:52:08.989 --> 00:52:14.929
they're going to succeed from the current situation,

00:52:15.050 --> 00:52:17.449
whether they end up staying as part of Canada

00:52:17.449 --> 00:52:20.889
or just being identity. They can just form their

00:52:20.889 --> 00:52:24.849
own country, just being completely different.

00:52:25.389 --> 00:52:27.929
Or whether they become one of the United States,

00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:32.119
whatever it is. What do you think Trump would

00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:33.780
think about incorporating that part of Canada?

00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:38.679
He would love it, wouldn't he? The person that

00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.900
we are seeing that's playing the role of Trump,

00:52:41.099 --> 00:52:46.599
that person, which I think is operating on behalf

00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.260
of the American military, not the U .S. military,

00:52:50.460 --> 00:52:53.519
but the American military, I think that that

00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:58.550
person is stirring the water. Because he wants

00:52:58.550 --> 00:53:00.849
it. He wants this rebellion. Well, this rebellion

00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:04.489
represents what every country in the world...

00:53:04.489 --> 00:53:07.889
So it's an example of what could happen. So whether

00:53:07.889 --> 00:53:12.170
or not Alberta makes a change, the important

00:53:12.170 --> 00:53:14.429
thing is that they're making the stink. Yeah.

00:53:14.650 --> 00:53:17.800
They're... showing they're showing that and if

00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.840
they make the change and they take it to the

00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.900
limit that really is an example of that's that's

00:53:22.900 --> 00:53:25.199
actually quite a radical thing to happen because

00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.019
people won't put up with this shit anymore because

00:53:27.019 --> 00:53:29.639
they'll see that it's successful to rebel now

00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.420
you've got your own country or you've emerged

00:53:31.420 --> 00:53:33.519
with a bigger one it's no different than being

00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.480
married to the wrong person if the relationship's

00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.199
not working for you and it's all one way and

00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:40.960
not like you're doing everything and they're

00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.860
contributing nothing to the relationship it's

00:53:43.860 --> 00:53:46.449
time to leave yeah It's time to leave. And that's

00:53:46.449 --> 00:53:48.989
kind of, and the signs and symptoms were there

00:53:48.989 --> 00:53:51.090
for years and years and years and years. And

00:53:51.090 --> 00:53:52.710
they just had too much. They've had enough of

00:53:52.710 --> 00:53:55.809
it. And now Ottawa's come in and saying, oh,

00:53:55.949 --> 00:53:59.909
I'm so sorry. Does the marriage work? Maybe it's

00:53:59.909 --> 00:54:02.789
too little too late. Maybe they'll make redemption.

00:54:03.349 --> 00:54:05.230
Don't know. Maybe they'll compromise. Don't know.

00:54:05.230 --> 00:54:06.730
Maybe they'll change it. Let's watch this space.

00:54:06.769 --> 00:54:09.639
But I just wanted. let the people of alberta

00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:12.880
know that we love you and you deserve good things

00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.420
whether it comes from stand up for yourself yeah

00:54:15.420 --> 00:54:17.500
whether it comes from you doing your own thing

00:54:17.500 --> 00:54:21.880
or canada recompensing or whether you want to

00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.019
be part of the states we welcome you you can

00:54:24.019 --> 00:54:25.980
come and visit florida and i'll make you lunch

00:54:25.980 --> 00:54:30.500
there you go right so we love you okay so we

00:54:30.500 --> 00:54:34.329
have a question All right. Tell us, Sarah, what

00:54:34.329 --> 00:54:38.489
are these questions? Sarah, what are these questions?

00:54:38.590 --> 00:54:40.110
So you're going to have to, it's just one question

00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:42.150
and I'm going to field it to you. Oh, okay. So

00:54:42.150 --> 00:54:44.449
the questions are from Rosie. These are Rosie's

00:54:44.449 --> 00:54:46.809
questions and Rosie understands us more than

00:54:46.809 --> 00:54:49.730
we understand ourselves because she has done

00:54:49.730 --> 00:54:52.989
the summaries, which I've edited to all our conversations.

00:54:53.210 --> 00:54:56.710
This is number 47. So Rosie is intimate with

00:54:56.710 --> 00:55:00.280
our subject matters. put out this question. What

00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.579
do the dead say about the living? I'll leave

00:55:03.579 --> 00:55:05.840
that for you to start. What do the dead say about

00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.000
the living? What do the dead say about the living?

00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:19.260
Well, I'm trying... You don't know. You have

00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:20.900
no fucking clue what they say. I'm trying to

00:55:20.900 --> 00:55:26.519
put... So there's... The dead... If we're just

00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:28.619
talking about a dead, decaying human carcass.

00:55:28.619 --> 00:55:30.280
No, we're talking about the dead. I would say

00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:31.760
we're talking about the dead on the other side,

00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:33.920
assuming there is the other. That's how I would

00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.739
like. If there's a heaven, what are they saying

00:55:36.739 --> 00:55:39.380
about us? I think they're saying, I love you.

00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:43.300
Good job. Keep it up. You're a warrior. Hang

00:55:43.300 --> 00:55:46.440
in there. It's not as bad as you think. Don't

00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.139
take it too seriously. I think that's what they'd

00:55:49.139 --> 00:55:54.289
be saying about Olivia. I have a very similar

00:55:54.289 --> 00:55:57.909
take. So when you talk about the dead, you're

00:55:57.909 --> 00:56:01.110
talking about all of my parents, their parents,

00:56:01.190 --> 00:56:02.449
their parents, their parents, their parents,

00:56:02.489 --> 00:56:05.989
forever, forever, forever. I am actually, when

00:56:05.989 --> 00:56:08.230
you think about it, all of those people that

00:56:08.230 --> 00:56:09.969
came together and had families and children,

00:56:10.090 --> 00:56:13.550
for generations of love and generations of caring

00:56:13.550 --> 00:56:16.650
and everything, I represent the confluence of

00:56:16.650 --> 00:56:19.550
the infinite number of parents that I've had.

00:56:21.530 --> 00:56:25.710
I'm representing the confluence of love and care

00:56:25.710 --> 00:56:28.690
and compassion for freaking hundreds of generations.

00:56:28.710 --> 00:56:31.909
So the dead are embodied within you. So I carry

00:56:31.909 --> 00:56:36.730
with them the dream. I am their dream. And I

00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:40.349
am their progeny. And I'm carrying forward the

00:56:40.349 --> 00:56:46.969
light and the love that they put into me. Very

00:56:46.969 --> 00:56:50.429
nice. So that's my take on that. Part of that.

00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.719
If there is a reincarnation aspect, part of that

00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.039
group that may or may not be part of my own bloodline

00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:04.119
would be my past self or selves, whatever I've

00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.199
experienced before, being a cheerleader for my

00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:11.679
current self. Yes. So all of those cheerleading...

00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:16.019
Now, the cheerleading that I perceive, it's no

00:57:16.019 --> 00:57:19.090
different than... You and me going to the amusement

00:57:19.090 --> 00:57:21.369
park, and there's this freaking state -of -the

00:57:21.369 --> 00:57:26.489
-art, high -velocity roller coaster, and she

00:57:26.489 --> 00:57:29.610
gets on it. You're not going to drag her? And

00:57:29.610 --> 00:57:32.769
she's having, she's having, she's screaming,

00:57:32.909 --> 00:57:35.510
she's scared, she's loving it, she's doing all

00:57:35.510 --> 00:57:39.690
of these emotions. Yeah. She's scared to get

00:57:39.690 --> 00:57:41.409
onto it, and when she's done, she wants to do

00:57:41.409 --> 00:57:44.449
it again. Right? That's what I see this life

00:57:44.449 --> 00:57:47.269
as. And that's what the dead people will be telling

00:57:47.269 --> 00:57:50.210
us. They'll be saying, just have fun with it.

00:57:50.289 --> 00:57:51.829
Have fun. Don't take it too seriously. It's a

00:57:51.829 --> 00:57:53.909
freaking roller coaster. You're going to have

00:57:53.909 --> 00:57:56.449
ups. You're going to have downs. Have fun with

00:57:56.449 --> 00:57:59.349
it. Yeah. Good. Live life. Don't worry about

00:57:59.349 --> 00:58:02.969
the next dip in the roller coaster. Because there

00:58:02.969 --> 00:58:05.150
ain't nothing. They advise us to be present and

00:58:05.150 --> 00:58:08.630
enjoy it. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. Cheerleaders.

00:58:08.829 --> 00:58:11.070
They're just cheerleaders. Dead people are cheerleaders.

00:58:11.070 --> 00:58:17.820
I don't know. What are your thoughts? Okay. No

00:58:17.820 --> 00:58:19.840
thoughts. Nothing to add. Okay. She's being shy.

00:58:20.300 --> 00:58:23.079
So what else? Anything else on that? No. I'm

00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:25.860
just, God bless the cheerleaders cheering me

00:58:25.860 --> 00:58:31.139
on. But think of it this way. When we change

00:58:31.139 --> 00:58:35.500
and we make our transition this time, we're going

00:58:35.500 --> 00:58:39.400
to still be cheerleading for the future selves.

00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:43.519
Yes. Yeah. So this is just a, this is like waves

00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:50.789
hitting a shore. What defines one wave? Is it

00:58:50.789 --> 00:58:52.230
the same wave? It's the entire ocean, isn't it?

00:58:52.349 --> 00:58:55.329
It's the entire ocean. It's just constant. It's

00:58:55.329 --> 00:58:58.389
just a wave after wave after wave. And what we

00:58:58.389 --> 00:59:03.849
represent is just another iteration of all of

00:59:03.849 --> 00:59:07.449
the past. And we represent the future waves to

00:59:07.449 --> 00:59:10.349
come. I think one of the phrases that I always

00:59:10.349 --> 00:59:13.050
liked, it was listening to Rick Archer, Buddha

00:59:13.050 --> 00:59:14.989
at the Gas Pump. For anyone listening, if you

00:59:14.989 --> 00:59:17.130
want a good grounding in Eastern philosophy,

00:59:17.389 --> 00:59:20.670
Buddha at the Gas Pump is a great podcast. And

00:59:20.670 --> 00:59:25.309
he says that we're God's sense receptors. Everything

00:59:25.309 --> 00:59:27.489
is. I'll buy that. Everything. I'll buy that.

00:59:27.610 --> 00:59:30.409
Mind you, that's what we are. I like that. That's

00:59:30.409 --> 00:59:33.230
really cool. I like that. Well, let's go ahead

00:59:33.230 --> 00:59:35.210
and wrap up. That was lovely. You know what?

00:59:35.250 --> 00:59:36.909
We didn't even talk too much about the wedding.

00:59:36.949 --> 00:59:38.590
Any highlights, lowlights? We can talk about

00:59:38.590 --> 00:59:41.329
the wedding, the next one. Okay. Yes. We can

00:59:41.329 --> 00:59:42.769
talk about it then. And I can talk about the

00:59:42.769 --> 00:59:45.110
follow -up trip to Mexico because it's like a

00:59:45.110 --> 00:59:48.809
double whammy. So we'll talk about that. It sounds

00:59:48.809 --> 00:59:50.550
good. All right. Well, Xenia, I hope you have

00:59:50.550 --> 00:59:52.829
a good stay here in Florida. And Sarah, thanks

00:59:52.829 --> 00:59:54.630
again for joining us. It's been lovely. Y 'all

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