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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join
us as we wander off the path to find the ideas
that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the
mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with
tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better
life. Welcome everybody. This is Dr. Tia Jolie
Phillips and you're listening to Soul Decodes.
Today is July 3rd, 2025, which means we're on
Independence Eve. Independence Eve. So yeah,
this is episode 46 already. Wow, it's almost
a year's worth of episodes. For those of you
listening for the first time, my co -hostess
is Sarah Tirri. Hello everyone. What's going
on Sarah Tirri? Well, I have a gift for you.
A gift, a little gift. I have a gift for you.
Oh, do you? Robin said, don't give it on the
air this time. Well, I'm going to. Okay, do what
she... No, you do you, boo. That's good, you
tell me. See it rattling? It sounds like candy.
How did you... What is it, candy? No. What do
you think it is? Oh, these look like... They're
seeds. Oh, they're pits from... These are some
sort of a bean. No. No, it's a jackfruit tree.
Oh, God bless you. I'm going to grow these and
I'm going to love them like they're my children.
So I got gifted a jackfruit last week and it
was Tony's co -worker. And it was the size of
a freaking watermelon, this thing. And for anyone
who doesn't know, I've only been recently acquainted
with it. It's spiky on the outside. And then
I cut it open and those seeds, you've got, well,
they're more like a quail's egg, I would say,
in size rather than like a little seed. And I
got 78 out of one fruit. 78 seeds. How did you
like the fruit itself? I didn't like it because
I'd... No, well, you see, I had this PTSD with
some fruit I had in Asia once and I could just
taste this flesh and I'm like, I couldn't. But
it wasn't really fleshy. I mean, to produce 78
seeds that size in the thing that was like a
small watermelon. And then when I left this morning,
and I don't know if this is Chinese whispers,
but Tony said they sell online for 15 bucks each.
Oh, yeah. I was going to tell you. I mean, it's
like, I don't think we've got to start a business.
78, and that would be $25 to buy at Publix. I
mean, that's like a little gold miner. Oh, it
is. There's so much gold in raising things yourself.
what we have on this farm is yielding just this
massive product. And then I went onto YouTube
and I saw this guy eat, eat the nuts. And apparently,
and I haven't delved into this, but that there's
a massive load of things are good for you in
this jackfruit. Sure. Yeah. And a lot of people,
I speak to a lot of people about changing their
lifestyle and updating their diets and just thinking,
being a little more intentional about what they
eat. So we have this thing. Like, I think I told
you about my tuna fish. And people love my tuna
fish, except for there's no tuna in it. We replaced
the tuna. We used a normal recipe, but we swap
out. Instead of tuna, we used smashed up garbanzo
beans, right? So there's that. But there's also
this pulled pork sandwich that's the best pulled
pork sandwich you've ever had, except there's
no pork in it. And what's the substitute? Jackfruit.
you can the actual fruit yes yes because it was
actually kind of stringy yeah it was yeah so
you could actually reshape that if you could
yeah and then you could add some spices to it
well that's the whole point is the substance
i didn't like the taste of it it was it was a
little odd but i love papaya and i love mango
but it really wasn't about the fruit it was about
these seeds i mean that was the predominant yield
from this it's amazing once you start once you
start growing things like we have mango Not mango,
moringa out front. And most people are like,
oh, moringa is a weed tree. Well, across the
world, they don't consider it a weed tree. They
call it the miracle tree. The miracle tree. People
used to give gifts. When a couple got married,
they would be gifted their own moringa tree.
Because it's got, like every part of it's useful.
Most of it's edible. Right. And it's got more
vitamin A, C. Is it a fruit tree? You eat the
leaves. You eat the leaves. Yeah, you can eat
the blossoms too, but the bees love the blossoms.
My point is, you can literally break a branch
off, stick it in the ground, and it'll grow a
new tree. Oh, that's fucking fantastic. It's
really cool. That's really good. Yeah, that's
absolutely, a lot of respect for a tree that
can do that. And some people do microgreens.
You can brew it as a tea. I just bought... I'm
going to have you try it on your skin. Well,
you could have it as spinach. I mean, you could
cook the leaf. I'm going to have you try it on
your way out. I'm going to give you some oil
I just bought. It's cold -pressed moringa seed
oil. It's so smooth on your skin. It's so beautiful.
I'm going to have you try it. Oh, I'd love to.
Well, thank you for the gift. I love it. It's
so beautiful. I want to recognize some people.
I think you're from London, so you've heard of
Andover? Yes, Andover. Yes, that's down near
Southampton. Hey, Andover. Welcome to Soul Decodes.
There are some of our new listeners. Heading
into the West Country. You're coming from the
South to the West. I had to look it up because
I've heard of Andover, but I never knew where
it was. So it's kind of fun to look at the new
map and see who's popping up. Yeah, we've got
to get a map up here. I'm not doing a map. No,
I've said it before. I'm going to have to do
it. You keep putting tests on me. I have a good
idea. Now you've got to grow a jackfruit farm.
But I don't mind that. I don't want to do that.
No, but we should seriously start planting these.
Now, I've got 78. You've got 11. I'm going to
put them in little things. You've got how many
acres? 70. No, this is the jackfruit. I'm back
to the jackfruit. Oh, I thought you said 70 acres.
No, 78 of the jackfruit. Oh, wow. Okay. And I'm
going to plant them and see what I yield. And
I've looked online. And then if you want to sell
them online. have to check now rosie might be
what are they selling for each online let's do
this let's let's make an agreement we can do
this if you want to do that's fine but the high
value crops right now are actually mushrooms
really edible mushrooms like you could take a
look go go do a search for um lion's mane mushrooms
so what does that come at it doesn't come from
a seed a mushroom how mushrooms fungus it grows
on the ground so it's a piece of you know i know
what a mushroom is but what does it come from
where do you where do you buy the ones that you're
going to propagate Well, they can grow. They
grow in central China, I guess. But to grow here
locally, you have to have certain conditions.
But most fungus grows on decaying matter from
plants. Good on a compost heap. Yeah, yeah, for
sure. But different mushrooms require different
conditions. Some grow higher up in altitude with
drier conditions. Others grow really well like
in the tropical rainforest, like the moist conditions.
But ultimately, the mycelium, which is underneath
the ground, is like this. communications highway
it's like the internet i saw when i was in england
um last year it was in august i just watched
this movie about that and it was just all these
ai visuals pulling together what this interconnectedness
is that you're speaking of and it was like doing
like a mushroom trip myself the visuals were
amazing but it was so interesting what this is
built i mean mushroom and whatever that what
it's pronounced that again The mycelium. Mycelium.
Yeah. And I was very impressed by a mushroom.
The more people study mycelium and the value
of mycelium, I'm just predicting that we're going
to have automobiles, construction materials made
from mycelium. How do we start growing ours?
We've just got to grow mold. Let's talk about
that off the air because mycelium is a very big
deal. In fact, I took a... I took some information
about mycelium and sent it to two different people
this week because I want to get ahead of this
mycelium trend. When you understand the value
of mycelium and what it does and the different
things, the value of it in every part of your
life, like right now we use petroleum products
to produce different plastics. There's almost
nothing that plastics can do that mycelium can't
do. But it's eco -friendly. Yeah, it's eco -friendly.
Well, it is nature, isn't it? So we'll go there.
So I wanted to welcome Andover. To Andover. Andover.
Do you grow mushrooms in Andover? And then old
Colorado Springs. There was a little dot from
old Colorado. Have you ever been to Colorado
Springs? No, I've been to Colorado, but there's
a preacher that I watch from Colorado Springs,
and so I've seen the visuals of it, and it's
beautiful. I love the Rockies. Well, I went to
school in Colorado Springs. I went to the Air
Force Academy. And during our limited weekends,
like we'd usually have a day pass or a weekend
pass where we could leave the campus. We used
to enjoy going to what then used to be enjoyable.
It was like 30 years ago, but old Colorado Springs.
Did I say 30? Let's see. Gosh, 40 years ago now.
And what was there? A lot of hiking. Well, mostly
not military people. Right. Okay. So you could
socialize. Yeah, just an old setting. It was
really pretty cool. Oh, Colorado is beautiful.
Now, there's a new town from the Netherlands
where you have to welcome. I don't know how to
speak. No. It's just. How do you spell it? It's
E -Y -G -E -L. So I'm thinking it's Eagle. E
-Y -G -E -L. Eagle. Eagle. Shovan. Eagle Shovan.
Shovan. Eagle Shovan. Eagle Shovan. That's nice.
Anyway, I hope I didn't butcher your name, but
welcome. And just a couple more. Rio Alto or
Rialto, California, which is near LA. And then
finally, I want to make this a segue because
I hope we can spend a little bit talking about
this weekend. Is this Detroit, Michigan? No,
it's Derby. In England? No, it's Derby. It's
right outside of Philadelphia. Oh, I've never
heard of it. And given that we're on the 4th
of July weekend. We need to talk about Philadelphia.
Let's do it. Hello, Darby. We want to say hello
to Darby. So anyway, so that's it. I like to
say hi to these people that are listening to
us. It's great. It's very cosmopolitan. It's
evident that they're sharing our stuff. So thank
you. So what do you want to talk about today?
I would like to talk about a conversation I had
with my niece. So she arrived last night and
we were chatting away. Now she goes to raves.
Now, what a rave is, is where a load of people
get together. Now, she's 21. They get together
and they listen to music and they hang out. And
a lot of the raves are banned in England because
you need a public space for the rave. Otherwise,
all you've got is to go to a restaurant, go to
a nightclub or go to someone's house. So these
kids should be allowed to intermingle on... owned
by the aristocracy and the royal family. Because
Zhenya's 21, so she grew up with all the cyber
relationships, and that's not enough. You've
got to intermingle with people, and you should
be allowed to have a public space to do it. Now,
she lives in Brighton, and there's a big coastline
there of pebbles. So for me, you should be allowed
to have a fire, and you should be allowed to
gather. You're on the ocean, for fuck's sake.
It's not a big deal. And then you've got all
these greedy... people just saying no now you
can walk on the land there are bridal paths but
you're saying no to a load of people that want
to be together and they want to be out in nature
doing it and the Sussex Downs is beautiful or
on the beach but you're forcing them to spend
money and then just saying no to them and who
the fuck are you to say no to these people that
need a space to get together that's such an American
That's such a freedom lover's position, what
you just said. Yeah, and if I was mayor, I'd
like to do that thought experiment. I would open
it up, and you can't just hoard that. Who says
that belongs to you? Because you said it. If
you're the mayor. Yes, if I was the mayor, I
would say that you can get together on Brighton
Beach on Saturday night at seven o 'clock. You
can have a fire and there'll be parameters and
you can gather here. You can't drive. You'd have
to walk or you'd have to take public transport.
That would be the two parameters. There's no
parking and there's no one's driving. Because
if you're going to have a drink and allow them
to be on the beach, beautiful coastline, seeing
all the way around, all the sparkly lights. And
why shouldn't they be there on a Saturday night?
We should do like a podcast where it's a pop.
up rave we should do one here we'll just do a
pop -up rave but they shouldn't have to pop up
now they need to be together and why force them
to spend money to do that there's beautiful places
in england that you can hang out and stop being
such curmudgeons about that let them get together
they need to so you're gonna okay this is gonna
freak you out a little bit well i hope so but
i'm up for it Robin went off. She had to do some
things today. So before she left, we were talking.
She said, what are you going to talk about today?
I said, well, whatever pops up, whatever. I said,
but it's the holiday. It's the Fourth of July.
So it's always an interesting conversation because
I'm a dyed -in -the -wool American, full -blooded,
come -from -nothing -and -earn -everything American.
And then you have experiences. But you're still
an American. Oh, very much so. very different
perspective because you're, you come from Britain,
which is very different. Sure. So I think it's
always a good conversation to talk about these
things. But one of the, you just talked about
the, this, this thought experiment or this thought,
you know, just talking, just talking through
this situation where if I were the mayor, I would
do this. Yes. I love that. So this thought experiment,
I told Rob and I said, I'd like to. bring up
a subject, kind of a thought experiment. I used
that same term with Robin. I said, I'd really
like to have this discussion. It's abstract and
it's conceptual. Right. And here's what I told
her. I said, I'd like to say, because we're different.
We're Americans, but we're different types of
Americans, right? I'd like to say, if we were
unaware of our history, completely unaware, like
wipe it clean from our minds, and we were tasked,
With setting up a new country, a new government,
a new country, what would it look like? What
would it feel like? Who has the authority in
the country? Because that's the number one thing.
Who has the authority in the new country? Right?
And the reason it's a thought experiment is because
I really truly believe that tomorrow is the beginning
of the new America where... we're restoring the
1776 america yeah i think we're in a restoration
process and that's just my belief i have a lot
of reasons for believing it but but i don't want
to go deep into the what if and what about and
this stuff because i don't care so much about
the world around us no well it's not it's all
just a chimera robin's position was well what
does that have to do with soul decodes and i'm
like okay well oh you can trace it back let's
talk about our soul's journey because If there's
7 billion of us in the world today and we voluntarily
came here to populate this earth space, we sure
as heck should have probably thought about what
happens when we have conflict between us. What
happens when all the people at the same time
want to have a fire on the beach? I mean, how
do you manage that? I think how you manage it.
What is being required? So you have to... So
supposing you and I, where there's you and I
and there's four other people, you have to come
forward with an idea of the... And so you have
to know what the problem is. You're solving the
problem. We need a public space so children can...
Not children. They're in their early 20s. But
they've grown up having too much cyber time and
they need a gathering spot. So then you're all
in agreement. Are the children in... Call them
children. Young adults entitled to this or not.
So you have to establish that. If they are, you
just establish logical rules. And that has to
be transportation, it has to be parking, there
has to be fire provision. But solving, what are
you trying to create? A beautiful atmosphere
where everyone can get the best of everything
all the time. And as long as you're all in agreement
about what that is, then people are just going
to ask questions and just, how do you get it
into place? How do you structure this? How do
you create the system? And that's creative. Yeah,
and this is really super important. And again,
this does have to do with your soul, your soul's
journey. If there's a governance of any kind,
whether it's a country, a county, a municipality,
a nation, a monarchy, Or even just like you said,
the mayor of the city. Where does that authority
come from? Well, so this is interesting. So I
was always a C student, but I realized I had
ADHD and I got a couple of report cards, but
they were never very good. I got an occasional
B. I did get one A once, but I left school at
15. I was very young and I didn't give a shit
about school. I hated it. And I got a report
card and I gave it. And it was back in that it
was snail mail. It was sent to the house. My
mum was in the kitchen. She was cooking dinner
and she undid it. And then I was just kind of
peeking. And then she just started to laugh.
And she came and got me and she danced around
the kitchen. And she said, I want to read what
your report card said. And I was very young.
I was about 10. And it said, Sarah's leadership
qualities are already evident. And my mum was
just like really ecstatic about that. Well, you
are a leader. That's so cool. So it's innate
in you then. So the leader will have confidence
in themselves, I would guess. They have a natural
tendency to want to do that. So leading isn't
something that you either have it or you don't,
if that was evident to my teacher at age 10.
I always am fascinated with why you and I resonate
so well. And I think that leadership aspect of
you. is one of the things that I really like
a lot because I always appreciate when somebody
stands for something or they move towards something
that they value. And there's so many people will
just talk, talk, talk. Ah, somebody needs to
do this about this. You know, it's what we'll
get up and do something about. Just go off and
do something. Create. But, you know, I do it
all the time. And it could be something as simple
as, because you won't believe it, like, Fourth
of July is coming up. Well, let me just go this
way. The Florida Panthers won the Stanley Cup
back -to -back, okay? So they had this massive
party on the beach, right? There's this big celebration
for the Stanley Cup champions, second year in
a row. So there's this huge number of people,
like literally, I think it was like, I forget
the number, 400 ,000 or 600 ,000 people on the
beach. There were no fights. There were no skirmishes.
Nobody was injured. There was actually an individual
that was walking around, and a friend of mine
saw this, picking up litter. An individual, not
the city. It wasn't some person that was incarcerated
with a yellow vest on and had to pick up trash.
It was an individual picking up trash, and people
were thanking him. It's so freaking weird. Hold
that thought. OK, so when I was talking to Zhenya,
she lives down the road from a quarry. And so
they have a lot of people come to rave in the
quarry. And she was talking about why they have
said no is because people are dropping trash.
And then I said to her, well, you're going to
have people do that, the people that should pick
up after themselves. Otherwise, you should go
around and pick up the trash. It's funny. And
that just happened this morning, that conversation.
So he's doing it for that reason. He wants to
keep this so... Well, and so last week, what
was it, Tuesday? I think it was Tuesday morning.
A friend of mine, he's a chiropractor. He's having
an open house. And it's just like a week, two
and a half weeks away. He's done no planning
for it. And I said, well, and he called me. He
says, I need your help. Because he's like, you're
a marketing person. You're organized. I don't
even know what I'm doing. And practical. So I
said, well, let's meet. So we met at the park.
Right. And it was Lake David right up. Right.
It was beautiful. I'd love to live around there.
And we're talking, talking, talking. We finished
our work. We came up and I literally held my
phone up and said, Rosie, I'm sitting with my
friend and I won't say his name, but here's the
situation. Here's this. Here's this parameters.
I'm going to be back in my studio in 90 minutes.
I want you to have a PDF ready for me that does
this, this, this, this. Good. Right. Yeah. And
I looked at him. I said, what else? And he's
like, what? And he's like, what is that? How
do I get it? Yeah. Rosie, cause she said, but
she said back to me, she says, okay, I'll have
this for this person and it'll, it'll have this,
this, this, this, and this. Is there anything
else? Yeah. And I'm like, no, no, I'm done for
now. Thank you. Yeah. You can just maximize efficiency
of your time with that and solve the problem.
But he's looking at me like. Who are you? No,
well, it's so impressive. Yeah. So we get up,
we did our stuff. We talked about other stuff
for about an hour because as a chiropractor,
he wants to do not just chiropractic adjustment.
He wants to treat a broader spectrum. He wants
to talk about blood chemistry. So I'm going to
actually do some work with him. I might even
help with his open house. But the point is, when
we were done, I was walking to our cars where
our cars were close to each other. And there
was trash on the ground. So I walked backwards
and he's like, is everything okay? I'm like,
yeah. And I just picked up this piece of trash
and walked it to the trash can. Could you imagine
if everyone did that? But we can do this. All
of us can do this. Yeah. If you see it picked
up. Because most people are like, F that. I didn't
put that. Yeah, that's exactly their mentality.
It's like F that. But if you all did that and
everyone did it, it would be beautiful. You wouldn't
need to paste it. Yeah, you wouldn't. Yeah. And
so I do that all the time. If there's a scrap
of a piece of paper here on Phillips Island.
Everyone who visits knows to pick it up. Yeah.
Just throw it away. Yeah. But that's why we keep
this place kind of clean. There's not any scraps
of paper blowing around. Even if it blows over
from the neighbor, I don't say to my neighbor,
hey, come get your piece of paper from my property.
I just pick it up and throw it away. Yes, and
he'll do the same for you. And he'll do the same.
Well, he doesn't have stuff blowing from me.
Right, yeah. It's busy, isn't it? Yeah, we don't
have stuff blowing onto his property. But the
point is, you know, To what degree do we need
somebody to tell us to not litter? Yeah. Or can
we just be... Can we just be rational here? I
don't... Because here's the trade -off. If you
pay for somebody to pick up that piece of paper,
then somebody's got to govern that person and
manage that person. It's a way of creating jobs,
though. That will be the argument. Well, the
argument's that, but it's a... false argument
because you're how do you create a job create
a need oh you create a need and then you create
a job to fulfill that need it's picking up trash
but if everyone did that that job you wouldn't
need that but they'd have to do something else
So, yeah, how do you create a need? Create a
problem. The problem is, though, not everyone
picking up like you do. Ray does that when he
takes his boat out. If he sees a floating bottle
or something, he'll just go over and pick it
out. He'll be going someplace, and I've seen
him just veer off. He'll circle back and pick
something out of the water. But we're not living
with people that will all do that. You know,
they'll throw some trash out the window. Fuck
it, someone else will do it on the town. I have
to tell you this quick story, real quick. I had
just moved to central Florida, and there was
this person in the Publix, the supermarket parking
lot, and windows down, little radio going, no
problem, right? And I see the driver door open,
and then he takes his fast food trash, like the
bag, like the cup in the trash, you know, just
his fast food trash. Sets it on the ground and
closes his door. Now, all of his windows are
open. And I was going into the store and I just,
I went. Did you go up to him? I picked up his
trash. Oh, and did he see you? I was in his face.
Right. Holy shit. I walked up to the driver door's
window. I put his trash right on his lap and
I said, you dropped this. And I dropped it. Wow,
that's hyper aggressive. Oh, no, this is what
a warrior does. Yes, it's a warrior. It's highly
aggressive, but passive in your doing. It's not
passive. Well, it's not passive. That's why I'm
saying it's aggressive. But you haven't got,
but you give him the out. You're saying, I think
you dropped this. I think you dropped this. Yes.
And you know what he said? Because I literally.
What did he say? No, I put it there deliberately.
No, he said, thank you. Oh. In other words, I've
been had. Yes. So he handled it with grace. I
did, I guess. But I saw him, literally saw him
put it on the ground and close his door. I think
you dropped this. I think that's so cool. I think
you dropped this. What a badass, darling. But
I'm saying that boy... Now he would have driven
away, wouldn't he? And then someone would have
driven in and it would have smushed everywhere.
It would smash it down and then there'd be like
flies on the remainder of it. But that's okay.
I'm fine with the flies and I'm fine if there's
french fries in it because then the birds come
down and they eat it. God help the birds, man.
They're going to have cardiac issues. A bird's
little heart attack bird from the French. It's
the American way. So, well, this is all good.
I do want to double back to this idea of governance.
Yeah. Because the question is, can we govern
ourselves or do we need a governor or governess?
And if so, what are the, how do we limit, like
where do we find the balance between how much
power we the people have and how much power is
given to somebody that says. Oh, well, we need
roads. We need snow removed from the roads, right?
Because there's that group of people that says,
without the government, who's going to clean?
Who's going to? Take care of the roads. Well,
turn it into the private sector and have people
do that. It doesn't have to be a government.
It's not a national job. It doesn't have to be
the government. I mean, we have a private road.
This is a private neighborhood. And you should
all club together and get yourself a snow plow.
Then you'd be able to do your own road. And that's
what we do here. And we can prorate it. It's
like if you're at the end of the road, you use
the whole road all the time so you can use a
higher percentage of the maintenance. But if
you're at the beginning of the road, the rest
of it you never use. Yes, I agree. That's good.
You know, there's creative ways to do this. So
this is a private road. So we're having those
conversations. But you have to have a lot of
reasonable people living together. And they all
have to agree on what's right and ethical. Once
you've done that, it shouldn't be a problem.
Well, it is. And that's a big problem. Because
people have been dumbed down in our school systems.
They're literally, they don't think logically.
They have all these logical fallacies. They don't
understand. People don't even know where their
food comes from. No? They don't know the... Publix.
Well, this is meat. It comes from... You wouldn't
want to know. It comes from the meat factory.
Well, you wouldn't want to see a load of hens
being battery farmed. You wouldn't want to see
it. You wouldn't want to hear the squawking.
You wouldn't want to see the condition. So I
think a lot of people don't want to know the
history of much because they'd be appalled and
ashamed if they did. Yeah, I think you're right.
My brother, he was a telephone man, so he put
the wires in for British Telecom back when it
was wires in the 80s, and he had to go to the
abattoir in Brighton. And he went in, he was
about, probably about 19, and there were just
gullies of what, he could hear it coming in,
and it was blood, just gullies of blood. And
all these cattle were upside down, and then they'd
slit the throats, and they were still crying
and still moving. And just, he said it was the
most hideous experience. But that was what he
saw. Most people aren't going to see what happens
to a cow. So since we're not going to be talking
about governance, we're just saying what if right
now. What if we actually had a free market? What
if we had a really truly free market? Because
right now you can actually make biofuels from
algae. We live right here at the Gulf. Biofuel?
What's a biofuel? Biofuel is... Lighter fluid.
Well, it's oil. Like a kerosene. Like you can
burn it. Yeah, okay, yeah. You can burn it. And
it comes from what? There's a process you can
take like algae. Algae. You can make bio... Which
we're in the swamp here. There's plenty of bloody
algae. Well, I mean, they do it with ethanol.
Like you can get ethanol from corn, right? Yes,
yes. So it's an alcohol that you can burn. Yeah.
And then they take the petroleum and in order
to subsidize... See, let's just look at it this
way. You know, we burn gasoline for our car,
right? But where does the gasoline come from?
Well, this limited supply, this so -called, you
know, fossil fuel. The planet's gut, the planet's
blood, the planet's life force. That planet,
yeah, we're just extracting something that shouldn't
be extracted. There's other ways of doing it.
Well, there are other ways, but let's just follow
this through. You've got to follow the money.
So in order to, first of all, there's more oil
in this. in the ground than we'll ever need for
the next thousand years. Right, so we're okay
taking oil out ethically for you? For me, there
is, yeah. You're okay with it? Well, it's fine,
yeah. Okay. But I also believe in the free market.
So, oil's okay unencumbered by governance. Now,
what happens is, at some point, if you have a
truly free press, In other words, if I can express
to a normal, rational person, if I'm explaining
to Sarah Tirri, Sarah, this oil costs this much
and it damages the air and it damages the soil
and here's the byproducts from it. There's a
lot of damage. For the same price, I can do it
from algae. And algae grows really quickly. All
things are equal and I don't have... There's
no government. It's so fucking sensible. There's
no government interference. But why aren't these
sensible ideas? I just told you, there's no government
interference. So the government has these subsidies
and they say, well, we, okay, we need to subsidize
the farmers that grow corn because there's patents
with this specific type of corn. They have to
protect the corn, so we have to spray it with
these chemicals and fertilizers. We need to protect
those industries because there's profits associated
with those industries, so we have to shore those
up. Those industries are so important. They're
so important, right? But the free market, you
and I have not had a free market in our lives
because the government takes money from us and
props up. What they're choosing to. Well, and
the banks are going to... It was interesting.
Bill Maher did a show about two years ago about
growing almonds in California and how much water
they need. And I don't remember the numbers in
terms of water, but it was a massive fucking
amount of water. And you're growing them in a
very arid environment. What the fuck are you
growing almonds for in an arid environment? You
should be doing that in Florida where there's
a lot of water. It just didn't make sense. But
that is the almond industry in America. It's
nuts. So what I'm saying is if we get the government
out of the way, what we're going to see is good
ideas that find the need. Because entrepreneurs,
I had a great meeting last week with all my entrepreneur
group. We had like a bunch of people here. All
entrepreneurs do is they identify a need and
a resource and they put them together. Find a
need and a problem. Find a need. Resource problem.
Now, need. yeah need resource problem you want
to find the resources you've got to have it yeah
but the problem is a lot of entrepreneurs there's
a lot of good ideas out there the the government
gets in the way like here's an example it's 1776
we have a constitution of the constitution for
the united states right it's written on hemp
paper yeah hemp paper that's cannabis what a
great idea yeah paper so you mean i don't need
to go chop down all these forests Yes, I've heard
about hemp. I don't need to destroy all of our
forests for a stupid piece of toilet paper or
for hemp paper. I can actually have papyrus paper.
I can have different types of paper. It doesn't
have to come from the Hearst family tearing down
our trees. We don't really need paper much anymore
anyway. Most of it we do digitally. We can use
paper for cardboard. The shipping containers
and things. Oh, that's right. Amazon needs a
lot of paper. But my thing is, Did you know that
here in Florida, there's certain types of industrial
hemp that has a 90 -day growing cycle? Really?
I can grow it. I can have three or four harvests
per year. Maybe some hemp seeds. But this is
industrial hemp. And you're looking for the fiber.
That fiber, the tensile strength on the fiber,
is as strong as any material out there. Could
it stop an aircraft carrier? Boundage. Well,
think about it. The ships 300 years ago, they
used hemp rope. The rope was made from hemp.
It was woven strands of hemp. That's how strong
this stuff was. It was holding the boat. I remember
writing in Is This the Best God Could Do, and
it's a long time since I wrote it, but I referred
to this spider, and I can't remember the name
of it, but it secreted something that was so
strong and could be used, this spider, and they
were kind of milking it. So it's all out there
in nature, and we don't want to damage the planet.
We want to make uses of resource. We don't want
a government blocking us, telling us what to
do. And then here, for example, so... You could
grow hemp here. Oh, easily. Where is its origin
in the world? Where is it most grown? Hemp is
beautiful. It'll grow anywhere. Just grow anywhere.
It'll pretty much grow anywhere in North America.
So we need to... The question is what... And
how do you manufacture it? How many cycles can
you do? The cool thing about... Well, it's 30...
I mean, three months, though. That's so fast.
Oh, yeah. And it's beautiful. Hemp is going...
I hope in the next 24 months we're back to growing
industrial hemp. Nice. I'd like... No restriction
on any hemp whatsoever. But there's so many use
cases. Look this up. Henry Ford built a vehicle.
The entire vehicle was made from hemp. You can
look it up. Holy moly. But the world, the people
that control the flow of information don't want
you to know about that. Because they want you
buying whatever they want you to buy. Yeah, because
there's no plastic in hemp. If you make cars
out of hemp or if you make materials out of hemp.
Everything, basically. Carpets and stuff. Yeah,
everything. There's so many industries that are
reliant on plastics that they'll be out of business.
Yeah. Well, screw them. Screw them, yeah. The
planet is offering us this and we're going to
make the most of it. So the planet is gifting
this to us. We've seen this massive United States
government. Tell us back in like 2008, right?
Those banks are too big to fail. There's companies
that are too big to fail. If you have a government
telling you that there's a private business that's
too big to fail, you've already failed. You've
already surrendered because there's no company.
If they're so big, then they should be. They
should have the capability of not failing. They
need to be competitive. If they're not competitive
in the marketplace and Sarah's bank, if you're
this little mom and pop bank and you can do things
bigger, faster, stronger, and more efficiently
than the big bank, then you deserve to have more
of the market. And if the big banks have to fail
and Sarah says, holy Lord, I need to open up
more branches because what I'm doing is so efficient
and so effective, then that bank needs to fail.
then so be it, big bank. See you later. But the
regulators, which we're seeing this go away,
this is what's so fun about the world around
us right now. The regulators are going away.
We're putting a dagger in the heart of the central
banking system and we're pushing the resources
down to we the people. And it's exciting to watch
if you know what to watch for. It sounds exciting.
There's no flaws in what you're saying. It all
sounds like a good idea. Well, the banking system,
like there's a cryptocurrency called XRP, which
is Ripple. They call it Ripple, but Ripple XRP
tried this years ago with the previous president
and they got shut down. The SEC says, no, you
can't do it. Well, this is a more efficient way
of doing business. No, you can't do it. Well,
excuse me, but cryptocurrency is going to make
your business more efficient. If Tia Jolie is
in, if I was in Central Africa and I said, Sierra,
I can't explain it to you, but I need five grand.
I'll pay you when I get back. And you said, okay,
dear. And you pull out your cell phone and send
it. I would get it like a week later. Yeah. It's
got to go to this ledger, this ledger, this ledger.
You need it instantly. But I need it now. And
so with the new technology, with these new technologies.
I would text you a telegram. I'd telegram you.
Hey, girl, would you send me a couple grand?
Boom. Five seconds later, I've got it. In the
middle of Africa or South America, whatever.
This is the way banking should be. It should
be. I'm sending you money. And it's going to
be. It's not like perhaps there was anything
wrong with it. It's just we haven't matured technologically
-wise where we can all hook up like this. So
it's now time, isn't it? It's now time. Well,
Ripple solved that problem years ago. Ripple
basically said cross -border payments. They literally
said cross -border payments are not an issue.
But the bankers have this system that's called
SWIFT, which is anything but SWIFT. It's a complete
control gambit. But it was a dagger at the heart
of SWIFT. Right. Well, sorry about that. So SWIFT,
with all their money, went to the regulators
and said, we can't have this happening. We're
out of business if they do this. The world's
banks are out of business if that happens. So
they put lawsuits against Ripple. God. But you
should be out of business if there's a more efficient
way of doing things. You remember Blockbuster?
We used to go and rent our videos. There was
one up by the Citrus Tower. You'd have your videos.
You'd go in. I mean, it's just obsolete. We're
not grieving about it. We don't need it anymore.
And so the progress means you are going to dispense
with a lot of inefficiency. Well, back when I
flew for JetBlue, there was this... this other
captain i'd see him in the flight room sometimes
so we're you know captains we talk it's like
what are you investing in and you know it's just
just captain yeah and uh he was really really
really big on this streaming service for videos
that was going to replace blockbuster he but
he banked so what do you what do you think that
was streaming service was but he would if he'd
invested in that he would have banked well he
did bank yeah He did bet. Yeah, because that's
the new thing. But that's where we are now. You
need to leave the technologies. Give the entrepreneurs
the technologies. Don't stick a dagger in them
and say no. So that's what's happening right
now. We're entering America's golden years. I
love hearing that. Silver and gold are sisters,
right? Silver just hit $37 yesterday, which is
like it hasn't been there for a long, long time.
and it's still got volume behind it. Gold's leveled
off a little bit, so I'm moving my gold assets
to silver. I think silver's going to run more.
But then it's going to be moving to the exchange
-traded funds, the ETFs, because now we have
Ripple ETF that was approved this week. It's
like you're speaking a foreign language. Yeah,
so an ETF is like a mutual fund. For a layman,
it's like a mutual fund. But there's underlying
assets. In this case, it would be the Ripple
cryptocurrency. So most people until now, if
you have a 401k or an SEP or an IRA, you could
not participate in cryptocurrency. You couldn't
do it because you have to take your money out
of the protected asset. And you have to take
it out and transfer it and buy this. There's
like a whole chain of events. You'd have to put
the money in your crypto wallet and then go to
an exchange and buy that. There's like a whole
bunch of moving parts. And some of us did it.
And some of us did really well with it. But it
was really a lot of work. So now these institutional
investments, these investors like... There's
billions of dollars of, like these baby boomers
have trillions of dollars of assets that are
in their 401k, their SEP, their IRAs, and they
can't really do anything about it unless the
SEC says you can do something about it. So now
the SEC just told us, yes, we're going to see
these cryptocurrency products that are called
ETFs, which is exchange traded funds. or I think
in Europe it's called ETPs, Exchange Traded Products.
But either way, it's the same thing. It means
you can take real money in your retirement account
and move it over here. Instantly. You're not
actually getting the... The fund itself owns
the asset, the crypto, so you don't have to do
it, but you're participating in the activity
of the fund by doing so. I've made a lot of...
You've got to talk to Charlie. We're going to
have to schedule to come on and talk specifically
about that. I would love to. Because you and
he would just be having a very specific. Grayscale
is a whole family of funds. People talk about
fidelity, right? Oh, the fidelity, mutual funds,
right? You've heard of fidelity. This is just
stuff that I'm not, I don't know about this.
Yeah, that's me talking about it. I mean, I'm
going to sell my gold and buy a Cadillac Escalade.
Well, wait, no, convert it. Right now, if I had
gold, if I had extra gold, I'd convert it to
stackable silver. Let the silver run. I'd convert
it to a new car. Well, your car's beautiful.
Well, no, I've got to chop it in because it's
got nearly 100 ,000 miles. So I'm going to get
another one. So my point is that I'm super excited
about where we're going. I think we're going
to see a new... And this is all part of the golden
age that's coming then. And this is all just
technology. It's unbelievable. And that's the
technology. We talked about the technology. We
talked about governance. But really, we're seeing
a restoration of power to the people. Last week,
I don't know if you watched what DeSantis did.
He just recently said, for those of you who don't
know DeSantis, he's the governor of Florida.
I like him. He basically said, yeah. Cogent.
You know what? People don't know about him. He
was one of the key people a decade ago that was
one of the founders of the Freedom Caucus. Nobody
even knows what the Freedom Caucus is, but essentially
the Freedom Caucus was what the 1776 Sam Adams
Patriots were. They were the people saying, look,
we've diverged away from what America is. Right.
America is about Sarah Tirri. I didn't like his
stand on women's reproductive freedom, though.
Couldn't stand that. So he's good in some ways,
but that's absolutely terrible. And that actually
goes against we the people. Yes. That's why I
say governance. To what degree does the governor
of Florida... Have no say. No say in what I can
do. Have what? Nothing. You have no say. If somebody
wanted to have five spouses, which is crazy,
but what if they wanted to? Like, one spouse
is good enough. Oh, my God. Five. Christ. It's
like practice bleeding. Christ. No disrespect
to spouses, but come on. Oh, God. If your relationship's
important, then focus on it. You don't need five
spouses. Well, you'd have to have very superficial,
spread -out relationships, wouldn't you? Anyway,
let's not. Or you get tired of one that's like
that. But you should be able to do what you want
with your life and body, and there's nobody telling
you yes or no onto any type of moral ground.
Exactly. And that's why people need to understand
that the Constitution, the original Constitution...
It did not limit individuals. It didn't limit
our freedoms to do what we wanted. It was an
affirmation of our personal freedoms. And it
was a limitation of the government. Like, for
instance, weapons. I know everyone gets all upset
about weapons. It's very clear in the Second
Amendment, the government shall not infringe
upon my ability to defend myself and carry a
weapon. It literally says, shall. Not infringe.
Yeah, end of story. It doesn't say take it to
Congress and vote or send it to the freaking
court system. No. Shut up. Go away. And people
say, well, why do you need so much weaponry?
It doesn't have to do with my neighbor. It's
none of your business. It's not for my neighbor.
It's for an out -of -control government. We need
a militia. Yeah. Yeah, get us going. It's like,
when we need to rally and replace you, we're
going to rally and replace you. You and Tony
would get together. You'd be doing very well.
So the weapon I have is no concern of yours.
Yeah. In fact, our weapons... So you're going
to have someone argue, what about the children
that acquire weapons and they do their school
shootings, right? You're going to have... So
should the government make it more difficult
for teenagers to pick... or anyone to buy a weapon?
Well, let's just do this. When you talk school
shootings... So let's hold that for another time.
Okay. Let's talk about that next time. We'll
talk about false flags. Let's do that next time.
And who's behind a school shooting. Okay. Wow,
we're going to do a deep dive into that. If you
want to. I mean, if you want to go there. I'm
quite happy to. But I'd like to talk about...
Okay, well, let's do that on the next show. Because
there's some dirtbags, just like 9 -11. There's
some dirtbags. If they want to control you, they're
going to create this thing that happens, this
monstrous, dastardly thing that happens. So are
you saying they're not real? I mean, I'm going
to say the events happened. Like 9 -11 happened,
right? No, I'm talking about the school shootings
predominantly. They happened. Yeah, they did
happen. But I'm going to challenge everyone listening
to this. So can a 19 -year -old with a psychiatric
disorder go into a gun store and buy a weapon?
Can he drive a car? I think on a driving license
you have to declare whether you've got a psychiatric
disorder. Okay, so he lies. So what? So he lies.
Yeah. Listen. There's more people killed by medicine.
Yeah, so I see it in car accidents. Hundreds
of thousands of times more people killed by cars,
by automobiles. I think it's just when it's a
school shooting and you've just got innocent
children like the one they had in Texas. What
was it, Uvalde? Okay, so let's talk about the
schools then. Why aren't we training? I was over
across the street and my friend, I won't say
his name, but he's got... indoor urban assault
facilities. He trains the SWAT teams across the
street. He trains the sheriffs. Oh, wow. It's
all right there. I went and saw his new facility.
This guy's amazing. And he has a 501c3 where
he trains families how to defend themselves.
He actually had the local school system, the
directors and administrators in. And he says,
look, I'll do it for free. I just want to teach
students and teach. how to defend themselves.
But they'd have to have the government in the
schools to be able to do that. Well, this is
my point. The schools are controlled by the central
government. Why is that? Why do we need somebody
in D .C. telling us here in Lake County, Florida,
how to run our schools? Why do we need that?
Look, I promise you, if we had schools set up
the way we should set them up... And do you think
the schools should be armed then? You'd have
a gun in a classroom. Because what's the point
in knowing how to defend yourself unless it's
with martial arts, unless you have a gun in a
school? That just sounds abhorrent. I think there
should be a gun in every class. Unbelievable.
I think that just sounds so abhorrent to have
a gun. Why wouldn't you have a... There should
be a gun. That's so... Christ, that's a mindfuck
to think you'd have to have a gun in a class.
But it'd be the professor or it'd be the teacher.
And then they'd have to be trained. It could
be the darn janitor. I don't care. Yeah. But
here's the thing. That's so weird. On this street,
even if people don't like each other on this
street, they respect each other because everybody
on the street is armed to the eyeballs. But any
little psycho that's going to go in and shoot
up children. They'll shoot one. Yeah, and then
they would be shot. Look, I use this example,
like, you know, the Orlando Pulse shooting with
the LGBTQ and everyone got shot up. Well, what
an easy target. Everybody there was not armed.
Nobody there was armed. I got to tell you this.
If I were there... Armed society. If I were there,
that guy would have got off one shot or one volley
and he would have been down. There wouldn't have
been a wipeout massacre. Yeah. Joey would have
been the same. You just need one person to go
up and take that person out. But if he's got
the only weapon in the room... So you'd advocate
an armed society? Every one of us. I think children
should go through weapons training. Martial arts?
It's such a radical idea. It doesn't even have
to be. What's radical about it? Radical for me
because I haven't thought about it. I have not
thought conceptually about arming an entire society.
I mean, if nothing else, teach them weapons safety.
What if every child learned about weapons safety?
I mean, we don't even teach our kids about food
safety. We don't teach them. Jack about Jack.
I put my kids through Tongsudo when they were
younger. And that was basically, I love the sensei
there, Sensei Bill. And it was basically street
fighting. And it was how to get someone in an
armbar, how to get someone in a chokehold, how
to throw them. And I was glad that my kids did
have some way of defending themselves. And it
was necessary a couple of times in school. But
I haven't really thought about just everyone
now. What you're saying is everyone's armed and
then everyone, as a result of everyone being
armed, no one will get away with anything because
the moment they try. They'll be shot. They might
get away with getting the first shot. So it's
going to limit. You're seeing it as limiting
the harm that guns do by being armed. I can show
you a video. I've got tons of these videos. This
person that was trying to steal a child from
a mother. And the mother is, no, no, no. The
baby's, the child, the little toddler is being
stolen. And she couldn't do anything about it.
The man was bigger, stronger. He was taking this
baby away. from the mother, just stealing the
baby. And a bystander behind the mother just
went, pop, pop, pop. And that guy is down on
the ground. Is he dead? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did a
headshot? Well, it wasn't a headshot. It was
torso. Oh, okay. He was down, writhing on the
ground, and the mother grabbed the baby and ran
away. So this is... Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. Look,
I mean, but I'm just here to tell you... If that
was my kid, I'd be happy about it. In Central
Florida, where we live in Lake County, if somebody
were to... do something like that, try to take
a kid, they would not even get to their car.
Somebody would... I mean, if you went to the...
My husband packs everywhere he goes, everywhere.
He doesn't go anywhere without a gun. And then
loads of people, if you're in the movie theatre
in public, so everyone's packing. Everyone living
on my road packs. You know, I wasn't around...
I don't think I was around, but the Admiral,
after World War II, there was a Japanese Admiral...
that is supposedly quoted to say that invading
North America is impossible because there's a
weapon behind every blade of grass. And I really
kind of believe that. God bless America. Well,
but when you look at Alberta, when you look at
Calgary, Alberta, British Columbia, up in Canada,
all of Western Canada. is starting to align with
these ideas that, look, we don't need the central
government. All you're doing is taking from us.
You're stealing our stuff. You're taking our
money. You're treating us like slave labor. You're
taking the fruits of our labor. And then you're
trying to take our weapons away. You're taking
away our ability to provide for our families.
What do we even need you for? And that's what
this whole riff is about. Yeah, I mean, we might
have needed you to get to this point, but we
don't anymore. This is unfair. And we don't want
to be told what to do, and we want a more equal
distribution of resources. And that's why Alberta,
when you listen to what they're saying, it literally
sounds like 1776 America. And what we're seeing
is we're seeing a restructuring of power. So
the largest country in the world, in terms of
land mass, was actually the British Commonwealth.
Oh, yeah. If you really think about it. The British
Commonwealth. Yeah, Australia, Canada. All of
these areas that are under the crown rule. The
sun never set on the British Empire. Right, that's
a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. That's a problem.
That's a problem. If I was, like, on some small
island and they're like... Well, we started this
conversation about Jenya's raves and that the
land is owned by the bloody monarchy. Now start
sharing it. But by whose authority? I mean, theirs.
I know. It's so audacious. Who gave you that
power? It's the bloodline. Oh, yeah, and the
money. And then all the serfs just run around.
Oh, my God. So, yeah, there's got to be a better
way. So you've got to get going. What's... Well,
happy 4th of July, everyone. Yeah, do you have
any plans for the... weekend well it's my mother
-in -law's birthday on saturday so we're taking
her out to dinner and i'm going to do a couple
of fireworks at home and um yeah just celebrate
what it means to be an American i love it here
I've lived here now for since 92. America is a
better place with Sarah here oh that's nice just
darling that's very sweet it was it was Britain's
loss yeah well they had their day well we are
i just see America as being an extension of Britain
No, actually, America's all of the things that
Britain could be if they exerted their authority.
If they hadn't been unreasonable. Well, if we
the people in Britain would have stood up. If
we the people of Britain, because they're standing
up now, that's what Brexit was. Brexit was freaking
enough. We're not doing this garbage anymore.
That's what Brexit was. And the EU is going,
oh, but we need you. It's like. it's a bad relationship
where you have one party taking, taking, taking
and never giving or they give you a little penny
back. Yeah. They take a dollar and give you a
penny back. It's outrageous. It's like this is
stupid. People have just had enough of it. So
that's where class is. Welcome to the golden
age. It's like a little, a revolution is underway.
It's a revolution underway. So anyway, I'm going
to send you our transcript. All right. Y 'all
have a great, make it a saving. Absolutely. Happy
times. I can't wait for next year to have our
episode. our july 4th episode next year oh really
and let's talk about this all right let's we'll
let we'll go back and listen to this okay there
we go we'll do this and then we'll yes that's
a great way we'll publish it like that so hey
i'm gonna take this also not only as the weekly
episode but also as a special because i think
it's a good i think it's a very special conversation
that we have yeah related to freedoms. To freedom.
Personal liberty. I'm going to toast. Here's
to personal liberty and freedom for all. Here's
my lime water. This is apple juice. Happy 4th,
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