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Enjoy the show. Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join

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us as we wander off the path to find the ideas

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that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the

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mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with

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tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better

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life. Sarah, welcome to the treehouse. I'm sorry

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I took your parking spot. I know. It looks like

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you've got a getaway car today. It's facing outwards.

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You're going to be leaving in a hurry. It's like

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the black limo is ready to leave. It's nice and

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polished as well. It looks shiny. Oh, thank you.

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Mind to shame. I came down a dirt road to get

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here, Ott Williams, and it was just, I don't

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know whether someone had a hose running, but

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my car is filthy. Well, I just cleaned it. That's

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why it looks good. I'm car shaming. It's going

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to look good for a couple minutes. That's good.

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That's all that counts. The reason we're parking

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outside is because yesterday we started cleaning

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out our garage. We had tons of stuff. Have you

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found a load of shit you didn't know you had?

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We don't call it shit. We call it gifts. We forgot

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about it. So anyway, I just want to say welcome

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to everybody. My name is Dr. Tia Jolie Phillips.

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You're listening to Soul. And I'm with my co

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-hostess, Sarah Tirri. How are you, Sarah?

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I'm doing very well. Now that you found a parking

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spot. I did find a parking spot. So get me caught

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up because, you know, with the past couple episodes,

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we had to use some pre -recorded things just

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because you've been busy, I've been busy. Oh,

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manic. Tell me what's happening in your life.

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Well, I moved house again. Okay. So it got to

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the point with my lake house, and I've talked

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about that on a previous episode, where I could

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have sold my country home and bought the lake

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house. And it would have been an even exchange

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and own the lake house for cash. And then I had

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already been in the lake house for nine months

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and I had to make a choice. So I prayed on it,

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which I always do in a big decision. And I woke

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up. And then I realised I wanted to go back to

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my country home. And that was a very definite

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decision. There was no, I was completely at peace

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with it. And I loved everything about my lake

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home, but not neighbours. It was just too much

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because I'd been living in my country home for

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25 years. I mean, I could run around naked if

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I wanted to. No one's going to see me. And in

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the lake home, there were a lot of people around

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all the time. But my big thing was my jet skis

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because I really, really loved jet skiing. they're

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docked at cypress cove marina so i can still

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go out on my jet skis and so i moved back to

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the country so i did two moves within 10 months

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you're crazy that way you're crazy that way well

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i like both homes for different reasons so i

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think i think you're i think the teary town home

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yes i think it's just it's charming It is charming.

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And I think... And it's beautiful now it's white.

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I love the fact that it's all white. And inside

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is white. You haven't seen it since. No, I've

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not. You and Robin have to come down. I'd love

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to. I call it mental hospital white. Everything's

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got white. Note to solve. Am I going to get my

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flashbacks to my... Yeah, you might do. Ignore

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the straight jacket if you see it in my closet.

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Well, that's kind of cool. And now you've got

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a lot going. And my niece has been visiting as

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well. So I had a lot of attention going to her

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and she's worked very nicely. She's very easy

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to get along with. Super cute. And we're getting

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to know each other because five weeks is quite

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a long time and you can get in, you know, we're

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driving a lot together. There's probably some

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people who... This is their first episode listening

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to us. So tell us about your niece, just in a

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nutshell. So my niece is my late sister -in -law's

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only child. She's 21. And my sister -in -law,

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Sally, she passed away three months ago. So Zhenya

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is out here and she's here for five weeks. And

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she's just decompressing from a very, very difficult

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emotional situation. And we're getting to know

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each other one -on -one as women. I've kind of

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been a motherly figure and she's been a child

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in the past. And now we're just getting to know

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each other as women, which is really... nice

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and she's got a great sense of humor which is

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great she's english you see it's dark oh yeah

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well we we should talk about humor i don't know

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what you have in mind today humor's good humor's

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good well but you have some notes there so so

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so we thought about doing a show about humor

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and laughing laughter and wit so i did some did

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take some notes so i want to um start with a

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story a real life story of mine that happened

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when I was 25. And it was the first time that

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I had laughed when everything... Well, I'll explain

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the story. So... Someone had passed me a joint

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and I was with this person and I was 25. Now,

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I hadn't smoked any pot prior to that in England.

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All I had smoked was cigarettes and drunk alcohol.

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And even though I was travelling around the world

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as a stewardess, I hadn't done any drugs. So

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I was quite a virgin when it came to it. So I'm

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sitting there and I had a couple of hits of pot

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off a joint. And I started to laugh and it was

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just this beautiful laughter and everything was

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funny. existence I'm talking about, not anything

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in my life, just existence itself was funny and

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I couldn't stop laughing. I had to talk myself

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out of it. out of laughing because I wondered

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how long it was going to go on for so that was

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my first encounter with spiritual laughter and

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I've always wanted to reproduce that because

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I can see from the other side of the veil all

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these years later that this is a place you can

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laugh about because it's absolutely inconsequential

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to the eternal picture of our existence and so

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laughter has been from that moment on something

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I've wanted to cultivate in my life because I

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saw what it did. I could say it gave me a little

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bit of relief, and I suppose it did, but it was

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an exquisite that nothing about what's going

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on on this planet isn't anything other than beautiful,

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and it's something we should be able to laugh

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at, not take it so seriously. I took nothing

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seriously at that point, and it was lovely. It

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was very freeing. It is liberating, isn't it?

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Very liberating. I'm not recommending anyone

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smokes a joint to get to that stage, but it was

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a beautiful encounter. I don't know what the

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marijuana did, the THC, but it induced a beautiful

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perception. I don't want you to be drinking while

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I say this. Certainly not my greens. I don't

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want my mic to wear whatever you're drinking.

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And that's while you were a flight attendant?

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I was 25, yes. And you were already a flight

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attendant? Yes, I'd been since age 20. And you

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were allowed to smoke joints as a flight attendant?

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No, this was when I was at a friend's house in

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America. This wasn't, no, you weren't allowed

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to smoke, you're still not. No, this was when

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I was at a friend's house. And I actually, I

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was 20, I'd stopped flying at age 25. So I had

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just moved over here at that point, just finished

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flying. I know, when I was flying, they'd do

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random tests. I was never drug tested once in

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five years. Oh, yeah. But you should be. Pilots

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should be, for God's sake. Oh, yeah, because

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flight attendants don't matter, right? Not like

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pilots do. If I had to choose. Well, yeah, I

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mean, given the choice, yeah, I'd rather have

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a high flight attendant, right? Yeah, right.

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But, yeah, you know, I started thinking. I knew

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we wanted to do an episode about humor and laughter

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and things like that. And I started thinking

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about some of the fondest. memories i have in

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my life and they categorically they're attached

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to some sort of laughter and so i started thinking

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in terms of what makes us laugh what when i'm

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with you we're laughing all the time pretty much

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every time we get together we laugh about something

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and it doesn't matter if we're out on the boat

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or you know It just doesn't even matter. Don't

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you think that we're choosing that, whether it's

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conscious or subconscious? Because people who

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are quick to laugh, they want to laugh because

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they understand the benefits personally and in

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the company they keep. So it's something that

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I want to do. I think it's a choice whether it's

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conscious or not, because we do laugh a lot,

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but we're wanting that. I have to agree with

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you because there's a lot of times in my life

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where laughter was... Not part of the script.

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It was not part of the script. And sometimes

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when you're getting hammered from every direction,

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marital, financial, everything's stupid. Every

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place you turn is stupidity. Sometimes the only

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thing you can do is laugh. You just have to sit

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there and laugh. Because your choice is either

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laugh or... I mean, is laugh or cry? I mean,

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you can purge yourself through laughing, I think,

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and you can purge yourself through crying, one

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or the other. Crying is quite depressing, but

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after I've had a good cry and I'm understanding

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spiritually we have a use for crying, but laughter

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will do the same thing. Then you can up your

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vibration and not take it so seriously. But I

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think, I mean, life is serious. I mean, you and

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I have got ourselves to the point where life's

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pretty good and we don't have all these problems

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anymore, but my life's been tough and very serious

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things, like what the fuck is there to laugh

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about? But when I look back at all the situations,

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I've been, not all of them, I'd say 90 % of them,

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I put myself in those. And then it's really hard

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to laugh when you've caused this whole thing.

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So you're kind of bridging into what I think

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is one of the most liberating points of your

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life is when you can learn to laugh at yourself.

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Because some of us take ourselves so seriously.

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And I run into these people all the time. They're

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balls of stress. And I can see when you go to

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a comedy club, there's stress relief from listening

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to somebody else be a joker. But then you walk

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away and your life is real again. But if you

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can become the joker, if you can become the person

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that's just constantly being a goofball, then

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you're always with it. So I think that learning

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to laugh at yourself is priceless. Growing up,

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My whole family was all about puns. Like, you

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get my siblings and myself together at a restaurant,

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you will want to leave because every sentence

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has got multiple layers of puns. Oh, that's good.

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And it's kind of fun. Yeah. Until it's not fun.

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Until you can't think of a better one yourself.

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It's funny. Well, that never happens. But it's

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like a one -up thing with my siblings. Yeah,

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that's good. Because we're really competitive

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with that, especially puns. Yeah, my family is.

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In fact, I've got a Facebook group. It's called

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O -Pun -O -H. So O -Pun Forum. O -Pun Forum.

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And some against. Oh. well pun forum but uh you

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know we just that's good i'm gonna have to look

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at that we just have different so people put

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their puns up they're a clever pun that well

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i'm not gonna say they're all clever but they're

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can i raise them well there's some of them are

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pretty well i think you'll be able to tell in

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the first Probably in the first 10 minutes, who

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gets puns and who doesn't? Because some people

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just don't get it. They try their best. Well,

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perhaps it is an art form to some degree. And

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what's interesting is you and I are both working

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with, well, me more than you, but you're kind

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of touching on it a little bit, working with

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computers and work with AI. It's very difficult

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for computers to tell jokes or to create puns.

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The only thing they can do is parse the large

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language model and burp up something that makes

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sense. But what they lose is the situational

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capacity. There's something really raw, something...

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When you're in the situation and you burp up

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a quick... Timing has to be... Timing is everything.

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This is kind of novel, and I think it's important.

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So can you program AI to come up with a pun,

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and then you can edit it yourself and then put

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it in your memory bank and then bring it out

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when the time is right or post it on your Facebook?

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Because with AI, even with the summaries, you

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can tell this is done by a computer. There's

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no humor. There's nothing that you'd recognize

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as being a humor, but it can still give you your

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source material. It's like reading an encyclopedia.

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Yeah. So here's your joke for today. Yes. But

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it could still be capable of coming up with a

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good pun and a good joke, technically at least.

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Then you've got to do the delivery. I think there's

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something very attractive about people who have,

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first of all, they can laugh at themselves, but

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also they can think quickly enough to understand

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humour. That would be wit. So I wrote something.

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Okay, so yeah, what's on your list there? So

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about wit, seeing as you brought it up. So while

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you're looking that up, when I met Robin, the

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last thing in the world I wanted was to go out

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on a date or have a relationship. I was just

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off a divorce and it was just stupid. I just

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didn't want a relationship. I needed to kind

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of do my dark. You know, just do me, fix me.

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I wanted to fly airplanes and lift weights. That's

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all I wanted to do. Fly airplanes and lift weights.

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And so I really didn't want another relationship.

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But my friend at the weigh room said that there's,

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you know, Rob, there's this person that's going

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through some stuff. Recently we threw a divorce

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and I thought, well, you know, if I could be

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a friend, I'm going to be a friend. If I can

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help somebody, I'm going to help somebody. Well,

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it turns out that he told. Heard the same thing

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about me. I was a single parent, basket case.

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I was a piece of work. So Robin came to me just

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wanting to be a friend. So we both went to each

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other just trying to help and trying to be a

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friend. I was expecting this complete basket

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case. And it turned out to be completely opposite.

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So we went to lunch. The very first time we knew

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each other, first day, we went to lunch. My friend

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was with his... spouse and then the two of us

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had just met so we're just having lunch yeah

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at some diner in uh i think it was on gross back

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road in detroit and we were just my friend's

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name was larry we were just cutting up and just

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i would say these little quips these little puns

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these little word word a play on words plays

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on words and things like that and i looked at

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robin and she would be laughing yes i don't know

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like wait what because Those little subtle...

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Told you a lot about her. Yeah, totally. I'm

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like... damn yeah this is a smart that was that's

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very interesting because the same thing happened

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with Tony and I we were watching a movie and

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we were laughing and not not always at the obvious

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parts and I looked at him sitting on the couch

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and like we are laughing at exactly the same

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thing and it was beautiful that was really early

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on I mean it told me a lot I mean finding exactly

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the same thing funny and quickly spontaneously

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very funny he wasn't just laughing to be courteous

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to me because I was already laughing it was happening

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at the same time and that was really nice and

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it's very it's to me it's very uh it's a big

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connection it's a huge connection it's also very

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to me it's very attractive yeah because i want

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to just be free and if i find something funny

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yeah i say it yeah and so robin's to the point

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now where she's she just rolls her eyes she's

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like she knows but she's almost almost predictive

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like she knows if there's a scenario yeah in

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fact Most of my family doesn't even know if I'm

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being serious or not. No, that's funny because

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my sister -in -law's daughter, so that's my niece,

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and she was 10 years old. And she said to me,

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I never know when you're serious or you're joking

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when I say something. And I thought that was

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very funny. And a lot of people don't. And I

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thought, wow, that's a nice element of surprise

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for them, but might be a bit disconcerting. But

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that's a secret weapon. Well, that's my thing.

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I use this seriously because when I was in grade

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school, if you just looked at me, I was very

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straight and narrow. I was the kid. You always

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wanted your kid to play with me because I was

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always doing the right thing, never getting in

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trouble. I was just totally straight. So you

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thought. Right, right. So it's just a front.

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It's just a mask. Because I was smart enough

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to know how to get caught. So when there would

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be like a food fight at school, promise you.

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I promise you, either I or one of my closest

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people coordinated that. Oh, I love a good food

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fight. And we would start the food fight and

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then bolt. Right. Like we would literally start

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it and leave. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to leave.

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I'd be so into it. I'd have to keep going. After

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you launch your volley, you know. We wouldn't

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even calculate how to start the food fight. Okay,

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you do this. It was like coordinated. It was

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like a military operation starting a food fight.

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But then what they'd start, after the first food

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fights, they would shut the doors and pretty

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much interrogate whoever's in the cafeteria.

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So we learned quickly to start it and leave.

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Yeah. And then they shut the doors. But wouldn't

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you want to be there for what you've started?

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I'd feel deprived if I had to leave from a food

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fight that I'd started. No. I remember making

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homemade Play -Doh with my kids when they were

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younger. And in the making of it was fun, putting

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all this food coloring and it was flour and water.

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And we had this Play -Doh and then we all got

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into a food fight and it was about nine o 'clock

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and we went for it. They were all about 10, 12

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and 14. And then I didn't want to clear up that.

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night because it was... fucking horrendous so

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we all went to bed tony came home early and there's

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all this this play -doh and it wasn't like the

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play -doh you buy which is just it was stuck

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to the walls you have to get a chisel to get

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it off it was absolutely everywhere so that was

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the last time i had a food fight well actually

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it wasn't i did one with spaghetti once that

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was funny but yeah what is it about a food fight

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that we just because it's so not good is it it's

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so not good there's like nothing there's nothing

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good about it well you're wasting the food you're

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it's very irreverent isn't it it is funny as

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fuck it's funny it's totally funny yeah so let

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me okay so along these lines what are some Finish

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talking about wit. It was basically wit. Okay,

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talk to me about wit. So she had the wit to do

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something. So wit is to do with intellect and

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quick thinking. We align it with humour, but

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it actually means something intelligent. She

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had the wit, the wherewithal to do something.

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And Tia Jolie had the wit to see what was wrong

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with the plan. So wit is a word that is witty,

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which is quick thinking with aligned with humour.

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But it doesn't have to be related to humour.

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It can be just problem solving very quickly on

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the cuff. Well, that makes sense because growing

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up, we used to call somebody a dimwit. Yeah,

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nitwit, my mum would say. Or nitwit. So a dimwit

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would be somebody that's not, their light is

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not very bright. Did I say that right? Well,

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they're not thinking. Yeah, the light is not

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very bright. They're not thinking quickly. So

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to be witty, because it's a timing issue, isn't

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it? So to be witty. Now, the other thing. So

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this was horrible. So I was burying my father

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at his funeral and I got the giggles. Oh, that's

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hilarious. Yeah, it was absolutely terrible.

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My mum was sitting next to me and she had the

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wit, the wherewithal to make it look like I was

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crying. I was in a very emotional situation.

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And she was rubbing, you know, and I kind of

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had my head against. her breast and she was just

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calming me down but I was laughing and I was

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researching how do I stop laughing this morning

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and then there was this little cartoon and this

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lady saying to the other lady I'm really sorry

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that I laughed at your dad's funeral so I didn't

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feel like such a freak when I read this because

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this was 25 years ago so I'm finding I find humor

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in very very pious situations and I'm totally

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not totally irreverent but irreverent when in

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a man -made In man -made piety, I find it very,

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very funny. I could laugh in church, and I laugh

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at other people being pious. So I'm not quite

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sure what the root of that is. Well, if somebody's

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pious, they're all up in their ego. Has to be

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an ego -driven thing, doesn't it? Tell me a situation

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where you're pious and you're not in your ego.

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I can't think of one. I think it's related, isn't

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it? It's an ego structure. So to me... But totally

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inappropriate, though. And that's what made it

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funny. Humour is never not appropriate. Well,

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I think at a funeral it might be to a lot of

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people. So I was making a lot of people uncomfortable.

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When they thought I was hysterical because I

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was grieving, then they all calmed down a bit.

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But, I mean, I was getting looks, people. So

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I think it was absolutely antisocial. But that

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actually compounded the whole problem because

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now I'm being antisocial. That I find funny,

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that people are so offended, hyper -offended

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by me. Anything else I'm with because I want

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to ask you? I have a question. dr phillips okay

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this is dr phillips now so um laughter so what

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organ is used to laugh and the answer is the

00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:05.619
limbic system what's the limbic system well have

00:22:05.619 --> 00:22:08.460
you ever done limbo dancing when i bend over

00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:11.079
backwards i do that as a daily chore to my family

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so you're um you know that's the organ No, the

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limbic. Is it in your brain? It's in your brain.

00:22:19.049 --> 00:22:20.930
Oh, okay. So I didn't know whether it was in

00:22:20.930 --> 00:22:22.589
the body or the limbic system. You know, whenever

00:22:22.589 --> 00:22:24.609
you use the word system, like people say it's

00:22:24.609 --> 00:22:28.170
your immune system. Well, your immune system,

00:22:28.289 --> 00:22:31.809
you don't have an immune system. It's the network

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of all of your immunity in the aggregate. So

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they just categorically call it the immune system.

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Your limbic system, you'd have to. You know what

00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:41.769
we should call it? Maybe we know somebody in

00:22:41.769 --> 00:22:45.920
the limbic committee. We're going to have to

00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.640
ask my mum to know what it is. And can you whack

00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.940
your head and get it activated? I know, right?

00:22:51.630 --> 00:22:54.089
we can find that out i'm not and the other one

00:22:54.089 --> 00:22:57.029
says this is a dr phillips one as well so this

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way to put me on this i know i'm sorry do you

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find humor in this so yeah i do it's hilarious

00:23:00.890 --> 00:23:03.869
so laughter triggers the release of endorphins

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that was good and i think i kind of knew one

00:23:05.849 --> 00:23:08.930
knew that one and that's the body's natural feel

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-good chemical laughter protects the heart i

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thought that was interesting well yeah so it

00:23:13.950 --> 00:23:17.220
stopped there because the endorphins like Remember

00:23:17.220 --> 00:23:20.619
I talked to you in previous episodes about giving

00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:23.640
somebody a 20 -second hug? Yes. The chemical

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that's released, which probably operates within

00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.359
the limbic system, is actually called oxytocin.

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And I'm not a neuroscientist, but I'll look that

00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:38.019
up. But the oxytocin, it's the mama hug. It's

00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:41.019
the peace. It's the security. It's a very good

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:44.180
feeling. And you get that natural high from it.

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In terms of... It protects the heart. It burns

00:23:48.500 --> 00:23:51.980
calories. So when you laugh, you're... When you

00:23:51.980 --> 00:23:53.819
laugh, especially the... They call it the belly

00:23:53.819 --> 00:23:55.920
laughter. I have to try. Oh, I can feel it. The

00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.960
belly laughter. I can just feel it under here

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then, actually. So if anyone who knows yoga...

00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.579
Okay, this is a fake laugh. I have to... Oh,

00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.140
God. So I completely... My stomach went quite

00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:08.480
tense then. Yeah, because you're like... So anyone

00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.339
who knows tai chi or yoga... It's good for your

00:24:10.339 --> 00:24:13.019
abs. Martial arts. If you just put your hands

00:24:13.019 --> 00:24:15.640
right at your lower rib cage... just like this,

00:24:15.700 --> 00:24:19.400
that's roughly where your diaphragm is. I felt

00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:21.839
it go hard when I was laughing. Yeah, so a lot

00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.420
of people breathe like this. It's all up in their

00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:28.039
shoulders. But when you do diaphragmatic breathing,

00:24:28.299 --> 00:24:31.619
you're actually exercising your full lungs. You're

00:24:31.619 --> 00:24:34.380
pulling your lungs down. You're opening it up.

00:24:34.460 --> 00:24:37.779
You're oxygenating your whole system. That's

00:24:37.779 --> 00:24:39.420
what's burning calories. When you breathe out.

00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:42.740
But that motion does so many things for you.

00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.779
It gives you, first of all, it tones your gut.

00:24:45.940 --> 00:24:48.400
Yeah. It really tones your gut. So laughter is

00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:50.079
good for your figure. Oh, laughter is amazing.

00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.440
Wow. Laughter and sex are basically two of the

00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:55.960
best things you can do. For your body. Laughter

00:24:55.960 --> 00:25:00.940
and sex. Yeah. Like, especially. Do you smoke

00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:04.359
after sex? No, I laugh. I can barely walk after

00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.400
sex. There's stories. I can't tell those stories.

00:25:09.740 --> 00:25:13.119
Do an X -rated podcast. We'll do those for our

00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.559
special people that stay after. Okay, yeah, there

00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.240
we go. The X -rated version. The after hours.

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The pillow talk. So let me ask you this. There's

00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.599
a lot of evidence. And the other two, lightens

00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:30.640
anger's heavy load. Well, that's an obvious one,

00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.299
isn't it? And it might help you live longer.

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So I think it probably will help you live longer

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:38.759
because when you're laughing, your ego mind is

00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:40.980
not engaged. You're in spirit, I would say, when

00:25:40.980 --> 00:25:43.119
you're laughing. You're not problem solving at

00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.960
an ego level. So your brain is in a different

00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.940
brain wave than it would be in an ego structured

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:52.220
thought form. So you're more relaxed. And if

00:25:52.220 --> 00:25:53.859
you're more relaxed, I can imagine. imagine that

00:25:53.859 --> 00:25:55.599
would lead to longevity this is an interesting

00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.460
conversation because when i was getting my master's

00:25:58.460 --> 00:26:01.819
degree i was studying the work of dr daniel amen

00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:05.579
and he had this technology called spect where

00:26:05.579 --> 00:26:07.539
they would just basically look at the photons

00:26:07.539 --> 00:26:10.859
that are released in your brain and you could

00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:15.400
analyze how people think when they think what

00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.740
their thoughts what their feelings based on the

00:26:17.740 --> 00:26:20.279
photonic release of and if there wasn't much

00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:22.339
of a photonic release does that mean you're meditating

00:26:22.339 --> 00:26:25.140
that you're in a theta brain yeah so there's

00:26:25.140 --> 00:26:27.059
that that's what i'd want yeah there's that no

00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:29.480
but he specifically you could see like the limbic

00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:31.759
system fire up and you can see all these different

00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.920
nodes fire up depending and you can also nowadays

00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.460
find out if there's brain damage when things

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:40.519
are not lighting up you can see that maybe there's

00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:43.460
a circulation issue or some sort of neuro degeneration

00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:47.069
or something within the brain When we laugh,

00:26:47.390 --> 00:26:51.869
everything's connected in my world. If your big

00:26:51.869 --> 00:26:55.109
toe is sick, if you have a problem with your

00:26:55.109 --> 00:26:58.029
big toe, your whole body has the problem. It's

00:26:58.029 --> 00:27:02.009
not just your elbow. I think you can disidentify

00:27:02.009 --> 00:27:05.069
with it to some degree. I think you can have

00:27:05.069 --> 00:27:07.089
a body part that's not well, but it doesn't have

00:27:07.089 --> 00:27:10.069
to affect your consciousness. You have to be

00:27:10.069 --> 00:27:13.269
present to do that. Well, what I'm saying is...

00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:16.900
If in my mind, I have humor, I'm laughing and

00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:19.960
I, I find, I don't find something funny because

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.000
from my elbow. Okay. My elbow doesn't, unless

00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.940
I hit my funny bone, I guess, but it makes me

00:27:25.940 --> 00:27:29.119
angry. So, but, but my mind, it's my, it's my

00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.180
mind that maybe there's a tangential, maybe I'm

00:27:33.180 --> 00:27:34.619
talking about something and you're talking about

00:27:34.619 --> 00:27:37.640
something else. And I find humor in the, in the

00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.619
cross, the cross of those concepts. That's in

00:27:41.619 --> 00:27:44.380
my brain. That's a, That's something my brain

00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:48.359
synthesizes. But if I laugh, my whole body benefits

00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.920
from that laughter. It's a whole body experience.

00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.319
You're talking about the spiritual aspect? Yes.

00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.700
Well, I believe that whoever designed us, whatever

00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.819
that intelligence was, laughter was for a reason.

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:03.220
And we don't laugh enough. And when I had that

00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:06.339
experience when I was 25, I absolutely knew that's

00:28:06.339 --> 00:28:09.240
what I wanted to do. And we don't, and life can

00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.039
be very, very serious and we can, but I, I'm

00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.920
much better now about not taking myself seriously,

00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:16.980
but I did all my life. You wouldn't have recognized

00:28:16.980 --> 00:28:19.160
me when I was younger. I didn't laugh a lot and

00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.599
I was very, very serious. I think you and I have

00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.180
that in common. Yeah. I was very intense, but

00:28:25.180 --> 00:28:28.460
I think that if there is a creator, which I think

00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:30.279
there is, you know, this infinite creative source,

00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:33.380
there's definitely a sense of humor. Yes. Definitely.

00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:35.680
One thing I find interesting since you and I

00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.839
have been doing podcasts. together is what triggers

00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.440
the laughter like you and i have a lot in common

00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.920
like we'll laugh at a lot of things that we think

00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.960
are funny but there's also some things that are

00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:56.410
like benny hill there's Yeah, Benny Hill's going

00:28:56.410 --> 00:28:58.289
to have a certain type of humor and I'll look

00:28:58.289 --> 00:29:00.349
at that and I won't even get it. Yes, I never

00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.529
thought he was funny at all. I found him annoying.

00:29:02.890 --> 00:29:05.710
And you'll see, Americans thought he was funny,

00:29:05.769 --> 00:29:07.450
but it was mostly because there was quirkiness

00:29:07.450 --> 00:29:10.329
or slapstick. Like, I don't think slapstick is

00:29:10.329 --> 00:29:13.750
funny. Me neither. I don't think sarcasm is funny.

00:29:13.910 --> 00:29:16.670
Well, I've got a quote about sarcasm. Tell me

00:29:16.670 --> 00:29:19.089
about sarcasm because let's pivot to that. Oscar

00:29:19.089 --> 00:29:22.170
Wilde said this. I wish I'd had my, hang on a

00:29:22.170 --> 00:29:25.549
second. Do you have to say something? Well, sarcasm,

00:29:25.549 --> 00:29:29.089
to me, your subconscious mind doesn't know the

00:29:29.089 --> 00:29:32.349
difference between reality and... Okay, sorry,

00:29:32.490 --> 00:29:35.630
darling. So sarcasm is the lowest form of wit,

00:29:35.809 --> 00:29:38.410
but the highest form of intelligence, and that's

00:29:38.410 --> 00:29:41.730
Oscar Wilde. So it's the lowest form of wit.

00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:46.089
I'm very sarcastic, and I think English people

00:29:46.089 --> 00:29:48.470
generally are, but he's saying it's the highest

00:29:48.470 --> 00:29:50.849
form of intelligence. So I thought that was interesting.

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.180
I find sarcasm really funny and I don't take

00:29:56.180 --> 00:29:58.599
it seriously in other people because I use it

00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:03.839
a lot myself. Yeah. And sarcasm to me is hideous.

00:30:03.980 --> 00:30:09.839
Yeah. Yeah. Because I grew up with it. Doesn't

00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:11.700
it depend on the context though? If I could be

00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:13.940
sarcastic and it wasn't directed at you, it was

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:16.500
directed at something going on externally, that's

00:30:16.500 --> 00:30:20.029
not going to bother you so much. Yeah, I don't

00:30:20.029 --> 00:30:21.970
know who Oscar Wilde is or anything like that.

00:30:22.009 --> 00:30:24.210
No, I'm just kidding. Like, who are you going

00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:28.789
to believe? He died in Reading jail. But I don't

00:30:28.789 --> 00:30:31.650
buy off on that high form of intelligence. I

00:30:31.650 --> 00:30:35.829
think it's almost like cussing in the humor realm

00:30:35.829 --> 00:30:37.609
because... Oh, well, you're talking to the wrong

00:30:37.609 --> 00:30:39.509
person. I know, right? Well, we can disagree

00:30:39.509 --> 00:30:42.250
on stuff. It's okay. But what I was bringing

00:30:42.250 --> 00:30:46.029
up is that so much of what we think is funny...

00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.660
is not only situational but also our upbringing

00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:54.420
i can easily make fun of all the world's religions

00:30:54.420 --> 00:30:58.480
but people who are attached to those religions

00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.000
emotionally they're not going to think anything's

00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:03.599
funny no right they're going to take it like

00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:05.440
this is life and death stuff we're talking about

00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.859
your eternal soul And they're not going to think

00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:09.299
any of it's funny. Well, when I wrote Is This

00:31:09.299 --> 00:31:11.819
the Best God Could Do? it was a man called Leland

00:31:11.819 --> 00:31:15.680
Lerman from the Santa Fe Star. He said, and it

00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.160
was in a quote that he said, my book was funny

00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.420
but entirely sober. And I had gone in and taken

00:31:23.420 --> 00:31:25.619
the piss out of Christianity, and taking the

00:31:25.619 --> 00:31:27.660
piss is an English term for making fun of, mocking,

00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.279
and it absolutely deserved to be mocked to me.

00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.759
And I did realise, and I still realise, I could

00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.200
offend a lot of people. But you're choosing to

00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:42.519
be offended. There's a lot that I needed to be

00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.160
quite brutal and scathing about, even though

00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:47.900
I knew it was going to ruffle a few feathers.

00:31:48.019 --> 00:31:54.049
So I didn't care. Because we're in a place now

00:31:54.049 --> 00:31:56.609
where everybody's so sensitive about everything.

00:31:57.390 --> 00:32:00.529
Yeah, hypersensitive. But you're choosing that.

00:32:00.569 --> 00:32:03.289
Don't put that on me. You're choosing to be upset

00:32:03.289 --> 00:32:05.750
right now. Everything's a choice. Well, the football

00:32:05.750 --> 00:32:09.069
team, there's the Washington Commanders, right?

00:32:10.029 --> 00:32:12.450
Redskins. No, they're not the Redskins anymore.

00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:14.329
Oh, that's right. They had to change their name.

00:32:14.329 --> 00:32:16.069
Yeah, they changed their name. So there's my

00:32:16.069 --> 00:32:18.349
point. They were called the Redskins my entire

00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:21.690
life. They're the Redskins. They should have

00:32:21.690 --> 00:32:23.809
changed their name to the Washington Allskins,

00:32:23.809 --> 00:32:26.829
right? Really, they should have done that. The

00:32:26.829 --> 00:32:36.400
Fourskins. Okay, that's for the X -rated after

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.160
hours run. Oops, we jumped the gun. But it would

00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.279
have been a lot easier to keep skins in it, wouldn't

00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.440
it, than change it to something completely different

00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.319
for marketing and PR. But, you know, who is so

00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.859
sensitive? I mean, did the indigenous natives,

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.759
did the Native American Indians come up and say,

00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.640
yeah, you know what, the past, you know, 40 years

00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.519
you've been seeing redskins and we just can't

00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.289
even sleep at night. I know. Look how old we

00:33:01.289 --> 00:33:04.509
look because we can't sleep. It's so ridiculous.

00:33:04.509 --> 00:33:06.950
It doesn't even make sense. We're so petty. Of

00:33:06.950 --> 00:33:09.670
all the things to be troubled about. But we're

00:33:09.670 --> 00:33:11.650
at a point now where everybody gets triggered

00:33:11.650 --> 00:33:13.250
about everything. But are we going to come through

00:33:13.250 --> 00:33:14.650
that? I think we have to because we're going

00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:17.910
to be so bored by it. I think that that's a place

00:33:17.910 --> 00:33:21.490
where sarcasm can come in. I was really sarcastic

00:33:21.490 --> 00:33:23.710
and this is the best God could do. Oh, it's laced.

00:33:23.970 --> 00:33:26.410
And the other place that sarcasm is very beneficial.

00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.420
I'm just telling you this because the past 10

00:33:29.420 --> 00:33:33.940
years, some of us have been censored on YouTube,

00:33:34.220 --> 00:33:36.819
Twitter, Facebook. We've had our accounts closed,

00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:39.640
our accounts taken down just for saying things

00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.079
that were not okay. So sarcasm is beneficial

00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:50.200
for dodging that bullet because I can literally

00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.720
say, oh, Sarah, those shoes are divine on you.

00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.859
Those are just. Divine. Yeah. No, no, you don't

00:33:59.859 --> 00:34:03.799
understand. Those shoes are really divine. You

00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.900
know, you can say those things and it picks up

00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:07.819
the text and it listens to the context and says,

00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:09.920
oh, Tia Jolie's talking about Sarah's shoes.

00:34:10.699 --> 00:34:12.900
But it won't... See, I'm not even good at sarcasm,

00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.139
but there's... But the implication is that the

00:34:15.139 --> 00:34:17.260
shoes are absolutely awful. They're hideous shoes.

00:34:17.260 --> 00:34:18.980
And you can't say they're hideous shoes. You've

00:34:18.980 --> 00:34:21.159
now got to couch it in terms where you don't

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.849
get censored. So you're using that as a tool.

00:34:23.969 --> 00:34:27.070
So we've used that. So I do use sarcasm. I have

00:34:27.070 --> 00:34:30.670
used sarcasm as a tool. But I guess the thing

00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:35.690
is, you know, growing up, there was just children

00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:40.929
need positive, uplifting affirmations. They don't

00:34:40.929 --> 00:34:44.289
need to be made fun of. Yeah. And I think there

00:34:44.289 --> 00:34:47.909
was just so much negative and so much sarcasm

00:34:47.909 --> 00:34:51.380
in my life. It just got really old. Yeah. And

00:34:51.380 --> 00:34:54.219
it's just a... It was just a negative... Yeah,

00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.840
it was a downer. It was a major downer. Yeah,

00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.820
it wasn't funny. No, it's just not funny. Because

00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:00.500
when you're making fun of somebody, now, just

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:03.019
like the computer picks up the text and takes

00:35:03.019 --> 00:35:07.400
it literally, the subconscious mind takes the

00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.920
feeling. Yeah. And if you're being made fun of,

00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.099
whether it's a joke or whether it's sarcasm or

00:35:13.099 --> 00:35:15.960
whatever... The feeling is going to be imprinted

00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:17.619
on you. Yes, and because it was happening directly

00:35:17.619 --> 00:35:20.119
to you, you cultivated a feeling. I remember

00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.900
watching my mum. She was hosting a dinner party

00:35:22.900 --> 00:35:24.599
at her house. There were probably about ten people

00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.239
there, and I was five years old, and I used to

00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.820
spy on her all the time. And this man was talking

00:35:28.820 --> 00:35:30.500
to her, and she was all dressed up. She had a

00:35:30.500 --> 00:35:33.019
cigarette in a cigarette holder. She looked like

00:35:33.019 --> 00:35:35.980
a film star. And he said to her, Linda, and he

00:35:35.980 --> 00:35:37.659
was trying to flirt with her, and he said, Linda,

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.400
I'm a very modest man. And her response was,

00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.980
yes, you've got a lot to be modest about. And

00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:45.369
I thought... this was hilarious at age five and

00:35:45.369 --> 00:35:47.989
that was that was my first introduction to sarcasm

00:35:47.989 --> 00:35:50.329
but it was happening to this poor man not me

00:35:50.329 --> 00:35:52.949
sitting on the stairs so I was able to find it

00:35:52.949 --> 00:35:55.489
funny because it wasn't happening to me and it

00:35:55.489 --> 00:35:57.489
was mortifying for him he was very embarrassed

00:35:57.489 --> 00:36:00.309
by it and my mum was pretty rude to him but he

00:36:00.309 --> 00:36:03.750
was a bit ingratiating so but I think if And

00:36:03.750 --> 00:36:06.090
when I put and when I use sarcasm and is this

00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:08.489
the best God could do? It was about something.

00:36:08.610 --> 00:36:11.150
So no one's feelings are involved unless you're

00:36:11.150 --> 00:36:13.710
completely in a defensive position of Christianity.

00:36:14.230 --> 00:36:16.630
Then it might bother you, but it's not personal.

00:36:16.849 --> 00:36:19.690
So using in writing, I think, is a really useful

00:36:19.690 --> 00:36:22.829
way of making a point, perhaps not conversationally

00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:25.610
or at a dinner party. Yeah, I think that just

00:36:25.610 --> 00:36:28.909
to put a bow on this concept, if you're doing

00:36:28.909 --> 00:36:31.710
something to hurt other people, like I'm not

00:36:31.710 --> 00:36:34.050
saying that. Because there are some people that

00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:36.030
are going to be hurt no matter what you say or

00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:38.590
do. No matter what you say or do, they're going

00:36:38.590 --> 00:36:40.250
to be hurt. That's not what I'm talking about.

00:36:40.269 --> 00:36:42.409
Why are they wanting that? That's so weird, isn't

00:36:42.409 --> 00:36:46.309
it? I think that there's this place where if

00:36:46.309 --> 00:36:52.849
you're using your humor to berate an individual

00:36:52.849 --> 00:36:55.349
or a group. Yeah, but that's bullying. I think

00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:57.269
that's just another form of bullying. I guess

00:36:57.269 --> 00:37:00.519
that's the point there. Across different cultures,

00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.820
because I've been to more than 50 countries,

00:37:02.860 --> 00:37:06.099
you've been around the world. Would you say there's

00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:08.639
one type of humour that's kind of categorically

00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:12.780
funny? British humour. I'm sorry to disappoint

00:37:12.780 --> 00:37:16.000
you. Don't look so disappointed. What do you

00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.739
want me to say, Australian humour? No, I don't

00:37:17.739 --> 00:37:21.289
mean like British humour. What do you mean? Okay,

00:37:21.289 --> 00:37:23.730
well, so the type of jokes. Like some people

00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:26.190
don't find slapstick humor funny. I find sarcasm

00:37:26.190 --> 00:37:28.269
very, very funny. You find it funny and I don't.

00:37:28.269 --> 00:37:31.989
So really it's... Satire is very funny. Satire

00:37:31.989 --> 00:37:33.880
is funny. I like a good joke. I like satire.

00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.679
Yeah. And slapstick. I mean, that's... Never

00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.099
really found that funny. There was a show called

00:37:39.099 --> 00:37:41.280
Absolutely Fabulous that came out in the early

00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.639
90s. It was Joanna Lumley and Jennifer Saunders.

00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:49.039
And it was about these two wealthy women who

00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.380
are raising this child. And it was very slapstick

00:37:51.380 --> 00:37:54.619
humour, but the writing of the show was first

00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:58.980
class. So slapstick mixed with a really, really

00:37:58.980 --> 00:38:01.579
good script is funny. But if you're relying on

00:38:01.579 --> 00:38:03.820
just slapstick... to carry the whole thing. I

00:38:03.820 --> 00:38:06.059
can't be bothered with it. But absolutely fabulous

00:38:06.059 --> 00:38:08.340
for any of the listeners. You can go onto YouTube

00:38:08.340 --> 00:38:10.920
and watch that. It won so many awards. And it

00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.780
was so brutal, so sarcastic and so slapstick,

00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.260
but it was a great combination. But slapstick

00:38:17.260 --> 00:38:19.199
by itself, it's like Benny Hill. It's just, yeah,

00:38:19.300 --> 00:38:22.860
whatever. So what's up with people laughing at

00:38:22.860 --> 00:38:25.380
other people if you see somebody slip and fall?

00:38:26.380 --> 00:38:29.320
Yeah, what is up with that? They're carrying

00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.630
a basket of... tomatoes and they slip and they

00:38:33.630 --> 00:38:35.690
fall and they get tomatoes all over them and

00:38:35.690 --> 00:38:39.010
they're just a mess or paint i i actually wouldn't

00:38:39.010 --> 00:38:41.349
laugh at that if that happened in a store i wouldn't

00:38:41.349 --> 00:38:44.050
i would i would find that maybe internally funny

00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:46.750
funny but i wouldn't want that happening to me

00:38:46.750 --> 00:38:49.090
i wouldn't want someone laughing so i think i

00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:51.230
would have some compassion for that but it probably

00:38:51.230 --> 00:38:53.630
would be funny if they hadn't hurt themselves

00:38:53.630 --> 00:38:57.369
yeah and that's i use that as an example when

00:38:57.369 --> 00:39:00.510
i'm discussing humor in other circles because

00:39:00.510 --> 00:39:03.670
you and I can witness the same thing. We can

00:39:03.670 --> 00:39:06.550
see these two little children getting their ice

00:39:06.550 --> 00:39:08.590
cream cones and they're just all excited because

00:39:08.590 --> 00:39:10.269
they waited all day for their ice cream cones

00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:13.889
and one of them falls and it lands on them and

00:39:13.889 --> 00:39:17.750
I might look and say, oh my goodness, that child,

00:39:17.889 --> 00:39:21.469
are they hurt? I can run to their aid and clean

00:39:21.469 --> 00:39:24.409
them up and tend to them. In the meantime, you're

00:39:24.409 --> 00:39:26.230
sitting on the park bench laughing your ass off

00:39:26.230 --> 00:39:28.610
because it looked funny. It was a funny thing.

00:39:29.690 --> 00:39:32.670
Another thing is... That happened to my brother.

00:39:32.789 --> 00:39:35.510
He was eating an ice cream and he was being stalked

00:39:35.510 --> 00:39:38.909
by a seagull for about a year. No, seriously.

00:39:39.349 --> 00:39:42.309
And the seagulls had domesticated and it came

00:39:42.309 --> 00:39:44.929
down and it stole his ice cream. And he was furious

00:39:44.929 --> 00:39:47.050
about it. It just came in and got the whole thing.

00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:49.969
And I'm just laughing. And that is just so funny

00:39:49.969 --> 00:39:52.929
and so unusual. So there was, when I was dating

00:39:52.929 --> 00:39:55.670
Robin, we were in Detroit, just we were a bunch

00:39:55.670 --> 00:39:57.530
of goofballs. And I just, I always had tickets

00:39:57.530 --> 00:39:59.730
to events because I was... public relations for

00:39:59.730 --> 00:40:01.750
the air force so they always wanted the color

00:40:01.750 --> 00:40:04.070
guard and they wanted the parachute team to jump

00:40:04.070 --> 00:40:05.789
in so i was the person that did all that yeah

00:40:05.789 --> 00:40:08.309
so i did all that but i was always invited to

00:40:08.309 --> 00:40:12.230
the detroit grand prix the air shows fabulous

00:40:12.230 --> 00:40:15.269
i always had tickets and vip passes because i

00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:17.829
always took care of my people always nice robin

00:40:17.829 --> 00:40:20.630
and i were just dating and we were in a parking

00:40:20.630 --> 00:40:26.630
lot and i saw a banana peel in the parking lot

00:40:27.630 --> 00:40:30.789
And I was joking, and I'd go up and I said, oh,

00:40:30.849 --> 00:40:34.449
no, look, a banana peel. And I faked, like, I

00:40:34.449 --> 00:40:38.289
was going to step on it. But I actually did step

00:40:38.289 --> 00:40:41.369
on it, and I actually did slip. Oh, my God, really?

00:40:42.070 --> 00:40:44.130
But I got up and I laughed at my, I didn't fall

00:40:44.130 --> 00:40:45.909
all the way, but it was. But that wasn't, you

00:40:45.909 --> 00:40:48.369
weren't intending. I wasn't intending to, but

00:40:48.369 --> 00:40:49.630
it was slippery. I was like, damn, that's a thing.

00:40:49.630 --> 00:40:51.610
It really is a real thing. That's a thing. God.

00:40:51.789 --> 00:40:55.289
So, but that's slapstick first person. But that

00:40:55.289 --> 00:40:57.889
was totally funny. Yeah. And I realized it was

00:40:57.889 --> 00:40:59.429
funny, so I was able to laugh at myself. So I

00:40:59.429 --> 00:41:03.010
think if I saw a child do that and they were

00:41:03.010 --> 00:41:05.349
laughing at themselves, I would laugh. If they

00:41:05.349 --> 00:41:07.949
were injured, I would probably be empathetic.

00:41:07.969 --> 00:41:10.889
Yeah, you'd go all maternal. And I also think

00:41:10.889 --> 00:41:14.909
I would say toughen up as well. You've just dropped

00:41:14.909 --> 00:41:16.730
an ice cream. It's not the fucking end of the

00:41:16.730 --> 00:41:20.369
world. Buy them another one. I wouldn't indulge

00:41:20.369 --> 00:41:23.190
getting really upset, you know, crying about

00:41:23.190 --> 00:41:27.500
that. Is there any... Let me ask you this. What's

00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:30.780
one of your favorite jokes that always gets a

00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:35.039
laugh? Do you have any? Yeah, I do. I have quite

00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:36.920
a few. Do you have any clean ones? Yeah, loads

00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.739
of them. Yeah, they're the better ones. You can't

00:41:39.739 --> 00:41:42.300
rely on dirty humor to be funny. Well, you can,

00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.699
but... So one of my favorite jokes, it is, what

00:41:46.699 --> 00:41:48.780
do you call a deer with no eyes? And the answer

00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:51.460
is no idea. Oh, you won't let me guess? No, I

00:41:51.460 --> 00:41:53.099
can't do that. No, because it's just... No, you

00:41:53.099 --> 00:41:55.760
can't guess it. I would have guessed it. You

00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.719
wouldn't have guessed. No idea. I did. I've told

00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.380
that joke a bunch of times. Yeah, I think that's

00:41:59.380 --> 00:42:01.280
because I mentioned it on the last podcast. Oh

00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.679
God, you take credit for this joke. Now we have

00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:10.460
to copyright jokes? That was a funny one. Okay,

00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.639
so I have no idea. Okay, what's next? Oh, I don't

00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.579
know. You give one now. Okay. I like these jokes

00:42:15.579 --> 00:42:17.760
that my children brought to me when they were

00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:23.690
kids. Because they're so just... Not right. Where

00:42:23.690 --> 00:42:28.849
did the general keep his armies? Don't know.

00:42:28.869 --> 00:42:31.469
Where did the general keep his armies? In his

00:42:31.469 --> 00:42:38.789
sleevies. That's funny. That's good. I like it.

00:42:38.789 --> 00:42:42.349
That's cute. That's a cute one. So another Charles

00:42:42.349 --> 00:42:47.550
joke. What do you call a blind dinosaur? A do

00:42:47.550 --> 00:42:53.449
you think he saw us? That's my daughter bought

00:42:53.449 --> 00:42:56.070
that one. We won't go too deep in this because

00:42:56.070 --> 00:42:59.050
we don't want to turn off our listeners. You

00:42:59.050 --> 00:43:02.130
should see Sarah though. She wants me to laugh

00:43:02.130 --> 00:43:04.210
at her jokes and she's laughing harder at her

00:43:04.210 --> 00:43:07.170
own jokes. Do you see? What do you call a blind

00:43:07.170 --> 00:43:09.730
dinosaur? Do you think he saw us? That's so fucking

00:43:09.730 --> 00:43:17.190
funny. So here's the other thing. If you and

00:43:17.190 --> 00:43:20.710
I walk downtown Claremont. We just sit there.

00:43:21.030 --> 00:43:23.530
We should do this. Okay, let's do it. Just sit

00:43:23.530 --> 00:43:25.630
at a coffee table like on the sidewalk. All right.

00:43:25.750 --> 00:43:30.010
And just laugh. Hilariously. And just watch how

00:43:30.010 --> 00:43:32.690
many people come by us and laugh. Let's do it.

00:43:32.690 --> 00:43:34.829
It's impossible. Do it as an experiment. I've

00:43:34.829 --> 00:43:37.489
done this before. It's impossible to laugh. It's

00:43:37.489 --> 00:43:40.989
impossible to not laugh. Wow. That's contagious.

00:43:41.650 --> 00:43:43.610
When you see two people laughing. I've seen it

00:43:43.610 --> 00:43:45.230
being contagious at a party. Oh, it's totally.

00:43:45.329 --> 00:43:47.409
A complete stranger in a street walking past

00:43:47.409 --> 00:43:49.929
you in a sidewalk. Oh, totally. Wow. If you have

00:43:49.929 --> 00:43:52.010
two people laughing, you can be on the beach,

00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:54.989
you just start laughing. You laugh so much that

00:43:54.989 --> 00:43:57.829
you're doubled over, your gut hurts, you can't

00:43:57.829 --> 00:44:00.610
breathe. You've done that, right? I do it all

00:44:00.610 --> 00:44:03.469
the time. Yeah, me too. When you witness somebody,

00:44:03.650 --> 00:44:05.909
two people laughing that hard where they can't

00:44:05.909 --> 00:44:08.050
breathe, they can't talk, they spit their drink

00:44:08.050 --> 00:44:12.289
out. Nose running. You forget everything else

00:44:12.289 --> 00:44:14.949
that's going on. and you're engaged you're like

00:44:14.949 --> 00:44:17.650
what's so funny like you're pulled into it so

00:44:17.650 --> 00:44:20.230
people are around so i've noticed that with yawning

00:44:20.230 --> 00:44:22.030
i can be in a room and yawn and then everyone

00:44:22.030 --> 00:44:24.630
else and i can make my dogs yawn i'll start yawning

00:44:24.630 --> 00:44:29.210
and then my dogs will start yawning so the same

00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:31.349
with laughter but with laughter though that's

00:44:31.349 --> 00:44:33.369
beautiful because you're upping the consciousness

00:44:33.369 --> 00:44:36.130
of the entire planet the vibration is being raised

00:44:36.130 --> 00:44:39.619
and so it is a highly spiritual act Because you're

00:44:39.619 --> 00:44:41.019
not bitching, you're not whining, you're not

00:44:41.019 --> 00:44:43.059
complaining, you're not doing something wrong.

00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.500
Laughter, I mean, if everyone laughed right now,

00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.880
you'd have heaven on earth right now if everyone

00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.340
was laughing. So maybe when you have your new

00:44:51.340 --> 00:44:54.599
church and you have the sermon, we need a...

00:44:54.809 --> 00:44:56.789
We need comedians up there or something. That

00:44:56.789 --> 00:44:58.190
would be good. Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah, sort

00:44:58.190 --> 00:45:01.050
of a variety show. A variety show, yeah. A church

00:45:01.050 --> 00:45:03.969
variety show. I love it. Yeah. Well, laughter

00:45:03.969 --> 00:45:07.230
is no laughter. I think to laugh, it is definitely.

00:45:07.449 --> 00:45:09.769
So what did the Buddhists say about this? In

00:45:09.769 --> 00:45:11.510
some of the Buddhist and Hindu traditions, laughter

00:45:11.510 --> 00:45:13.590
can be seen as a positive force, even a tool

00:45:13.590 --> 00:45:17.170
for enlightenment. So I totally get that. But

00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:20.550
I can see that because you cannot laugh in the

00:45:20.550 --> 00:45:24.719
past. You cannot laugh in the future. Laughter

00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.039
is only in the present. And just like I said

00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:33.280
with sex, when you're there, you are in the moment.

00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.840
You're not thinking about yesterday or last week

00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.559
or last month. Not projecting to the future.

00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.460
Or the future. You're not thinking about World

00:45:39.460 --> 00:45:44.599
War III. You're laughing. And that's so... The

00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.460
humor and just being present is so beautiful

00:45:47.460 --> 00:45:49.699
and so priceless. Yeah. It's the being present,

00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.539
isn't it? It's absolutely wonderful. So I'm going

00:45:52.539 --> 00:45:55.199
to go on to one more thing. Okay. Because I know

00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:57.659
you have your list. No, I'm through with my list.

00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:59.079
I've got a joke I've got to get out to you. Oh

00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.519
God, what is it? But before I do the joke, well,

00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.300
I've got two things. Well, I'm just going to

00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:06.619
tell you, this is my all -time, all -time favorite

00:46:06.619 --> 00:46:10.039
joke. Okay. Because I've never not had somebody

00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.059
laugh at this one. And you could probably do

00:46:13.059 --> 00:46:16.920
it in different languages, too. Oh. Swahili.

00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.599
Right? Well, there's a couple variations. First

00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.460
of all, this is my favorite knock -knock joke.

00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:24.719
Second favorite. I'll give you my first favorite,

00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.659
but you know how to do knock -knock jokes, right?

00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:28.460
Yes, knock -knock. Who's there? Yeah, yeah. Go

00:46:28.460 --> 00:46:32.280
ahead and start. Knock -knock. Who's there? I

00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:37.119
haven't thought of one for years. You start.

00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:38.860
I know, I'm supposed to start. You're supposed

00:46:38.860 --> 00:46:42.219
to start. Go on, then it's redo. No, no. See,

00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.219
the joke is that I had you start. That's the

00:46:44.219 --> 00:46:45.920
whole joke. Oh, is that the joke? That's good.

00:46:46.059 --> 00:46:47.639
The joke is that I got you to start. That's good.

00:46:47.739 --> 00:46:50.519
I like it. Okay. Yeah. So that was my second

00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.420
favorite. Here's my favorite all -time knock

00:46:52.420 --> 00:46:54.000
-knock joke. But you're going to have to wait

00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.900
until next week on sold e -codes. No, no. Okay.

00:46:58.460 --> 00:47:01.719
That's going to offend a lot of people. Okay.

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:07.750
So, knock -knock. Who's there? Interrupting cow.

00:47:08.769 --> 00:47:15.429
Interrupting cow who? These are very childlike

00:47:15.429 --> 00:47:21.250
and beautiful. I like it. Okay. So, man, we're

00:47:21.250 --> 00:47:23.130
losing tons of calories here. I know. It's great,

00:47:23.190 --> 00:47:27.130
isn't it? Okay. Alcohol makes me laugh too. After

00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:30.570
a glass of champagne, I am laughing a lot after

00:47:30.570 --> 00:47:35.039
champagne. And even just six ounces of it. You

00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.500
don't drink much, though, so... But... We'll

00:47:37.500 --> 00:47:39.099
try it. We'll take some champagne out on this

00:47:39.099 --> 00:47:40.679
experiment we're going to do on the sidewalk.

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:46.239
A glass of champagne. Just... Yeah, why not?

00:47:46.420 --> 00:47:48.880
Just blow up some champagne. But that has...

00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.079
I mean, it's not... It wouldn't be a gin and

00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.340
tonic, either. It would be champagne with the

00:47:52.340 --> 00:47:53.760
bubbles. Look, don't get me wrong. I'm not a

00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.800
prude. No. Is that what you call it in England?

00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:58.300
A prude? Yeah, a prude or a prig. Yeah. A what?

00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:02.139
Prig. Prig? P -R -I -G. What's a prig? A prude.

00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:04.800
Why don't you just use prude? Well, I just said

00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.760
there's two words. Sometimes we have five words

00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.460
that mean the same thing. We are English after

00:48:08.460 --> 00:48:11.820
all. Damn English. That's the Queen's English.

00:48:13.659 --> 00:48:16.739
Priggish. Someone who's priggish would be a prude.

00:48:16.780 --> 00:48:21.960
Yeah, pious. It's not flattering. Okay, thanks.

00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.519
Let me ask Siri. I had to go punch the person

00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.139
that called me a prig. We call it a prick here.

00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.440
What does prig mean? Oh, no, you're getting...

00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:38.179
Prick. You didn't hear me properly. Oh, my God.

00:48:40.139 --> 00:48:44.420
Hang on, let me enunciate properly. Siri, what

00:48:44.420 --> 00:48:50.960
does prig mean? Prig, a self -righteously moralistic

00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.659
person who behaves in a superior way with others.

00:48:54.179 --> 00:48:56.780
So self -righteous and moralistic. I grew up

00:48:56.780 --> 00:49:01.739
with so many prigs. It's crazy. And you thought

00:49:01.739 --> 00:49:05.539
they were pricks. There's one thing that I found

00:49:05.539 --> 00:49:10.440
that makes everybody laugh, no matter where you

00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.639
go. And probably the most iconic example of this

00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.559
is a YouTube video. You can go search for it.

00:49:18.699 --> 00:49:22.519
It's called The Farting Preacher. Oh, God. The

00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.760
Farting Preacher. And when I saw this, I was

00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.800
laughing so much because what they did was there's

00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.400
this. this evangelical preacher that's all fired

00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.400
up. Oh yeah. You know, he's doing this with the

00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.619
hands and doing this. But what they did was they

00:49:36.619 --> 00:49:39.980
overdubbed. They took all the, his words off.

00:49:40.659 --> 00:49:43.179
Well, they, they kept his words, but then when

00:49:43.179 --> 00:49:45.360
he would do these gestures like this, they dub

00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.199
in like the exertion gesture, they dub in a fart.

00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:49.980
Oh, that's funny. And when he was rubbing, it

00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:53.000
would be like, as he was rubbing, it was just

00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.760
so funny. But as a rule, that's kind of clever

00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.519
though. For some reason, people laugh at gas.

00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.570
It's like laughing gas, right? Yeah. But as a

00:50:03.570 --> 00:50:06.130
rule, there's so many people just laugh at farts

00:50:06.130 --> 00:50:08.869
for some reason. I think because to fart... But

00:50:08.869 --> 00:50:11.250
it's so human, though. Why do we laugh at farts?

00:50:11.329 --> 00:50:13.769
Well, it's human, but we don't want it to happen

00:50:13.769 --> 00:50:15.670
to us. You wouldn't want to be farting standing

00:50:15.670 --> 00:50:18.110
on stage when you're doing a presentation. You

00:50:18.110 --> 00:50:20.289
just wouldn't want that. You would rather that

00:50:20.289 --> 00:50:24.849
not happen, right? Speak for yourself. So when

00:50:24.849 --> 00:50:27.530
it happens, it actually would be embarrassing.

00:50:27.550 --> 00:50:30.590
So we do laugh. We love to laugh at embarrassing

00:50:30.590 --> 00:50:33.300
situations. Robin's going to kill me for this.

00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:39.300
I want to watch the farting preacher now. So

00:50:39.300 --> 00:50:41.219
Robin's going to kill me for this. So forgive

00:50:41.219 --> 00:50:44.440
me, Robin, in advance. Forgive her father. When

00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:48.159
she was having Grayson, that's our only child,

00:50:48.539 --> 00:50:53.820
we were going to Lamaze class. This is in Redford,

00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.239
Michigan or something. There's this Lamaze class

00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:00.300
where you learn to breathe and learn to relax

00:51:00.300 --> 00:51:02.929
while you're in labor, right? at the end of class

00:51:02.929 --> 00:51:05.969
they turn all the lights out and you're on these

00:51:05.969 --> 00:51:08.630
yoga mats right they're just on the floor they're

00:51:08.630 --> 00:51:11.610
relaxing and doing their thing and you know just

00:51:11.610 --> 00:51:13.769
just chilling out so they turn out the lights

00:51:13.769 --> 00:51:15.769
and you're supposed to just chill out you're

00:51:15.769 --> 00:51:18.969
supposed to just breathe and it's just it's supposed

00:51:18.969 --> 00:51:22.309
to be just peace so you got a bunch of all these

00:51:22.309 --> 00:51:24.369
pregnant ladies laying on the ground with their

00:51:24.369 --> 00:51:27.690
spouses their girlfriends whatever they're just

00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.340
They're not delivering. No. But you've got this

00:51:30.340 --> 00:51:33.380
heavy baby pushing on all your organs. But it's

00:51:33.380 --> 00:51:36.760
completely dark. Oh, my God. And all of a sudden,

00:51:36.780 --> 00:51:42.039
somebody farts. Oh, my goodness. And oh, my God.

00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:47.920
Did she find it funny? She found it not funny

00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.659
because she did it. She did it. Exactly. I think

00:51:50.659 --> 00:51:52.760
I might have been mortified. Not with my third

00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.900
child, but with my first one. But the whole room

00:51:54.900 --> 00:51:57.949
erupted. like you have all these regular ladies

00:51:57.949 --> 00:52:01.710
laying on their back laughing and yeah oh my

00:52:01.710 --> 00:52:04.309
god it was just there was no relaxation the whole

00:52:04.309 --> 00:52:07.349
room erupted with laughter yeah because it was

00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:09.670
so so it's a very but i owned it a lot of times

00:52:09.670 --> 00:52:11.829
you know if you're a good spouse you own it you're

00:52:11.829 --> 00:52:15.130
just like excuse me yeah like yeah i don't know

00:52:15.130 --> 00:52:17.090
how i would have felt about that to be honest

00:52:17.090 --> 00:52:20.329
i think but the funny thing is the lights were

00:52:20.329 --> 00:52:22.780
out so nobody had to own it Because the lights

00:52:22.780 --> 00:52:25.679
were out. No. The fact is. That kind of intensifies

00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:27.420
it though a bit, doesn't it? Because now it's

00:52:27.420 --> 00:52:29.539
just, you've only got auditory. You haven't got

00:52:29.539 --> 00:52:32.179
anything visual. So now the fart is really, really

00:52:32.179 --> 00:52:36.800
significant. It's so dramatic. Poor Robin. So

00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:38.699
anyway, this has been, I didn't know what to

00:52:38.699 --> 00:52:40.539
expect, but I told Robin, I said, you know, we

00:52:40.539 --> 00:52:43.139
talk about, on Soul Decodes, we talk about politics.

00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.860
We talk about. All these intense, these really

00:52:46.860 --> 00:52:49.119
important things, but this is equally important.

00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.539
Well, there's a quick biblical quote which deals

00:52:51.539 --> 00:52:53.739
with what you've just said, and that's kind of

00:52:53.739 --> 00:52:59.719
interesting. Here it is. This is Ecclesiastes.

00:53:00.179 --> 00:53:02.780
There is time to weep and a time to laugh and

00:53:02.780 --> 00:53:05.000
a time to mourn and a time to dance. So that's

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.900
biblical and that's St. Paul. So yeah, there

00:53:07.900 --> 00:53:09.900
is a time to weep. There's a time to dance, a

00:53:09.900 --> 00:53:13.500
time to laugh and a time to mourn. So laughter

00:53:13.500 --> 00:53:17.079
is more important than a lot of things because

00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.099
the levity is what we need to get through all

00:53:19.099 --> 00:53:21.699
the bullshit. It's interesting because you know

00:53:21.699 --> 00:53:25.019
how in the... Aviators, we have nicknames for

00:53:25.019 --> 00:53:27.300
each other. Yeah, your call signs. The call signs.

00:53:27.460 --> 00:53:31.719
Yours is scrappy. So I've never disclosed my

00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.059
call. When I was going through flight school,

00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.679
this never became like a real call sign for me,

00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:42.960
but we'd have these stand -ups in the morning,

00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.860
and the stand -ups would be... It's called stand

00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:48.699
-up because they have to put you under pressure

00:53:48.699 --> 00:53:51.519
to simulate an emergency situation. So there'd

00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:53.260
be the whole squadron, there'd be the instructor

00:53:53.260 --> 00:53:56.099
pilot with the two students in front of him or

00:53:56.099 --> 00:54:00.860
her. And then they would go and they'd say, Lieutenant

00:54:00.860 --> 00:54:04.039
Sarah, stand up. And he'd stand up and they'd

00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.280
say, you're the wing, you're flying wing in a

00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.679
two -ship formation out in Gulf area. Your lead

00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.159
does this. They give you a scenario that's an

00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:19.360
emergency situation. They lose the radio. They

00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.320
have an engine fire. Whatever. There's something

00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:26.019
going on. What do you do? And so you're supposed

00:54:26.019 --> 00:54:28.480
to go through this checklist. First thing I do

00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.719
is maintain control of the airplane, recognize

00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.039
the situation. You go through all this checklist.

00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:40.639
These are very intense. Because if you don't

00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.460
do the procedure correct, If you bust the ride,

00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.059
if you bust the ground operations, like in the

00:54:47.059 --> 00:54:49.840
morning, the morning stand up, they take you

00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.880
off the board. Like you're not flying that day.

00:54:52.019 --> 00:54:56.139
So if you don't mentally get that right, apply

00:54:56.139 --> 00:54:58.619
the proper thought, the proper protocols, the

00:54:58.619 --> 00:54:59.539
proper procedures. Yeah, act like it's really

00:54:59.539 --> 00:55:01.659
fucking happening. Read the right checklist.

00:55:02.409 --> 00:55:05.170
Yeah, you got to be right there. We used to call

00:55:05.170 --> 00:55:07.510
it a surface -to -surface missile because you're

00:55:07.510 --> 00:55:09.309
not even in the airplane and you fail. Right.

00:55:09.550 --> 00:55:11.090
And they take you off the board and then you

00:55:11.090 --> 00:55:12.530
got to go talk to the flight commander. It's

00:55:12.530 --> 00:55:15.510
like not a good thing. No. I've had this problem

00:55:15.510 --> 00:55:19.349
my whole life. I'm the worst liar in the world.

00:55:19.409 --> 00:55:25.429
I find humor in everything. So I'm always smiling.

00:55:26.630 --> 00:55:30.400
And when you're in this... situation where everything's

00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.019
serious and you have all these highly high overachieving

00:55:34.019 --> 00:55:37.360
pilots right and i'm the one sitting there smiling

00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:41.480
that doesn't go over no it could irk them so

00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.500
yeah i had people come out just like these senior

00:55:44.500 --> 00:55:47.739
officers like what are you hollywood or something

00:55:47.739 --> 00:55:50.019
so thankfully that didn't stick because i don't

00:55:50.019 --> 00:55:54.900
like hollywood but that the smiley thing just

00:55:54.900 --> 00:55:58.099
was a nervous a nervous thing for me it's just

00:55:58.099 --> 00:56:00.260
like well you know i just smile because it's

00:56:00.260 --> 00:56:02.440
very disarming when you see people smile but

00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.280
there's certain times it's not appropriate yeah

00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.199
yeah yeah now one thing after i got to be a seasoned

00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:11.059
pilot especially when you're flying with another

00:56:11.059 --> 00:56:14.260
really really good pilot where both of you you're

00:56:14.260 --> 00:56:17.139
on a four -day trip together it becomes very

00:56:17.139 --> 00:56:19.699
competitive who has the better takeoff better

00:56:19.699 --> 00:56:23.539
landing so a lot of times we would find ways

00:56:23.539 --> 00:56:28.440
to throw the other person off without um jeopardizing

00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.980
without a safety thing yeah sure yeah because

00:56:30.980 --> 00:56:33.059
you don't want you never want to jeopardize no

00:56:33.059 --> 00:56:35.760
but the passengers yes you've taken it too far

00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.280
at that point right so but one of the best things

00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.659
i would do is is actually we're not allowed to

00:56:42.659 --> 00:56:45.519
talk below 10 000 feet so anything you do has

00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.980
to be above 10 000 feet because below 10 000

00:56:47.980 --> 00:56:50.219
feet it's called a sterile cockpit yeah you're

00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:52.449
not allowed to do it so Since you can't talk,

00:56:52.489 --> 00:56:55.130
you have to do something. So weird. I would do.

00:56:55.570 --> 00:56:58.130
So I know you're laughing already. I haven't

00:56:58.130 --> 00:57:01.349
even said anything. So what I'd do is I'd prime

00:57:01.349 --> 00:57:04.730
the other pilot with some idea. And then below

00:57:04.730 --> 00:57:08.489
10 ,000 feet, it would be a visual trigger. But

00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:11.849
the bottom line is my goal was to get them to

00:57:11.849 --> 00:57:16.710
laugh prior to them landing. So just prior to

00:57:16.710 --> 00:57:20.030
the touchdown, because that way. They botched

00:57:20.030 --> 00:57:23.889
their landing. Oh, my God. And mine is better

00:57:23.889 --> 00:57:26.750
by default. Oh, my God. I know it sucks. Yeah,

00:57:26.809 --> 00:57:29.510
it's kind of foul play. It is foul play. Did

00:57:29.510 --> 00:57:33.070
it ever work? Oh, my God. I've had some people

00:57:33.070 --> 00:57:37.030
laughing so hard, so hard that they almost couldn't

00:57:37.030 --> 00:57:40.510
fly. But I didn't let that happen. But sometimes

00:57:40.510 --> 00:57:44.559
humor. I remember once we had this, he was a

00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:46.659
Czech airman and we were coming back from Singapore

00:57:46.659 --> 00:57:48.599
or Bangkok or something like this. And he was

00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.559
a bit of an arsehole to everyone. But I got on

00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.000
really, really well with him. He was in his 50s.

00:57:53.019 --> 00:57:55.980
I was in my 20s. He'd gone into the bunk and

00:57:55.980 --> 00:57:58.039
he had the second nap because he was about 14

00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.059
hour flights back on the 200, the Boeing 200.

00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:03.599
And he just wanted to come out at 10 ,000 feet

00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:05.619
and do a landing. And he was really respected

00:58:05.619 --> 00:58:08.360
as a pilot. So everyone let him do that. And

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.219
he took his trousers off when he went in to have

00:58:11.219 --> 00:58:13.559
a nap. I take them and I go into the galley and

00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:17.340
I sew the bottom in a blanket stitch really just

00:58:17.340 --> 00:58:21.860
just so full full on like 30 minutes so he gets

00:58:21.860 --> 00:58:23.780
his trousers on he can't push his foot through

00:58:23.780 --> 00:58:27.860
so he has to land in his boxers And that was

00:58:27.860 --> 00:58:30.900
really funny. And everyone was laughing at that.

00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.579
So this whole aviation thing with humor is really

00:58:34.579 --> 00:58:37.079
amazing. We would have brand new second lieutenants.

00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.820
I was flying C -141s out of McGuire Air Force

00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:43.400
Base. This is in the late 80s. And whenever we

00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:45.679
had a brand new second lieutenant, we would have

00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.539
them do things. Because they don't know any better.

00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.019
They don't know what's right and what's wrong

00:58:51.019 --> 00:58:53.079
and what's protocol and what's not. So we'd go

00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.420
on a trip. We'd go to Africa or whatever. We'd

00:58:55.420 --> 00:58:58.570
go someplace. And we would put in their bags,

00:58:58.630 --> 00:59:03.409
these, those heavy tie down chains. Cause the

00:59:03.409 --> 00:59:05.469
bags are already pretty heavy. Cause we're, we

00:59:05.469 --> 00:59:08.190
have to be ready for Arctic. Yeah. I picked up

00:59:08.190 --> 00:59:11.190
Tony's and they're heavy, bulky, but we would

00:59:11.190 --> 00:59:15.889
add the load master would add chains to their

00:59:15.889 --> 00:59:19.789
bags just to get them to carry more. So we just,

00:59:19.829 --> 00:59:24.269
I remember this, just this little brand new second

00:59:24.269 --> 00:59:28.239
Lieutenant from. She was brand new, just graduated

00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.179
from West Point. And she's going to Germany just

00:59:31.179 --> 00:59:35.739
after graduation. And this is after Mount St.

00:59:35.860 --> 00:59:39.800
Helens blew the top, right? So there's all this

00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:43.159
supposed ash in the air and stuff. Now, we knew

00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:47.420
airplanes and ash, they don't mix. You have to

00:59:47.420 --> 00:59:49.440
stay very, very far away from the ash. You know

00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.639
exactly where it is because it'll destroy the

00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:55.030
engines. What we ended up doing, we were coming

00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:57.590
back from Germany and this girl was on our plane.

00:59:57.769 --> 00:59:59.369
Of course, whenever you see a second lieutenant,

00:59:59.650 --> 01:00:02.070
brand new, brand new officer, you have to mess

01:00:02.070 --> 01:00:04.969
with them. It's kind of, it's got an aviator

01:00:04.969 --> 01:00:07.429
thing to do. It is, isn't it? Yeah. The rookie.

01:00:07.750 --> 01:00:09.809
So we said, well, why don't you come to the flight

01:00:09.809 --> 01:00:12.289
deck? And, you know, we have, since you're a

01:00:12.289 --> 01:00:13.909
lieutenant, you're commissioned now, we have

01:00:13.909 --> 01:00:15.610
some important stuff if you don't mind doing

01:00:15.610 --> 01:00:18.130
it. So, oh, great. She's thinking this is all

01:00:18.130 --> 01:00:20.829
awesome and stuff. So we had her filling up.

01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.579
After altitude, I want you to take these bags.

01:00:25.820 --> 01:00:28.420
They were the barf bags. Take these bags and

01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:30.760
put them on the air gasper, fill them up with

01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:33.179
air, and then look at the nav and put the latitude,

01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:35.800
longitude. Here's the altitude. You have to mark

01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:38.500
these bags. So the idea was that there were going

01:00:38.500 --> 01:00:41.929
to be air samples. All the way across the ocean.

01:00:42.130 --> 01:00:44.429
Oh, my God. So the entire way across the ocean.

01:00:44.570 --> 01:00:47.630
Oh, how humiliating. I know, it's so funny. It's

01:00:47.630 --> 01:00:50.110
absolutely. See, I wouldn't find that funny.

01:00:50.289 --> 01:00:52.309
Oh, she didn't. No, I wouldn't either. And I

01:00:52.309 --> 01:00:54.989
wouldn't now. I don't like people pranking me.

01:00:55.030 --> 01:00:57.889
I don't find pranks funny. See, this is. Yeah.

01:00:57.969 --> 01:01:00.989
But in that industry, it's just path of the course.

01:01:01.090 --> 01:01:02.789
Well, you have to. It's kind of a rite of passage.

01:01:02.949 --> 01:01:05.610
Yeah. Yeah. But I don't like being on the. And

01:01:05.610 --> 01:01:08.250
I don't play pranks on people. I won't do pranks

01:01:08.250 --> 01:01:10.650
if they're dangerous. No. If they're going to

01:01:10.650 --> 01:01:13.309
hurt somebody or there's... My sister -in -law,

01:01:13.329 --> 01:01:16.090
Jean, who you've met, we were laughing one day

01:01:16.090 --> 01:01:18.210
about wouldn't it be funny if, and we have this

01:01:18.210 --> 01:01:20.769
kind of game, wouldn't it be funny if. So I'd

01:01:20.769 --> 01:01:23.750
gone to England and Jean had gone to her mother's

01:01:23.750 --> 01:01:26.530
house. She had a key. She'd gone in, disrupted

01:01:26.530 --> 01:01:29.670
all the furniture, moved all the paintings. Her

01:01:29.670 --> 01:01:32.269
mum came home and thought she'd been burglarised

01:01:32.269 --> 01:01:34.269
and about has a panic attack, comes out and calls

01:01:34.269 --> 01:01:36.230
the police. Jean's sitting in a car with her

01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:38.530
husband laughing. I think one of my kids. This

01:01:38.530 --> 01:01:41.429
was incredibly funny to her. I thought it was

01:01:41.429 --> 01:01:43.739
funny. funny conceptually, but I would never

01:01:43.739 --> 01:01:47.099
transfer the concept to real life. And she went

01:01:47.099 --> 01:01:49.219
with it. And it's funny now. We actually tell

01:01:49.219 --> 01:01:51.059
this story a lot and my mother -in -law finds

01:01:51.059 --> 01:01:53.880
it funny, but she didn't find that funny. And

01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:55.800
her heart rate went up and she really thought

01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:58.579
she'd been burglarized. Jean also, my friend

01:01:58.579 --> 01:02:01.659
Smokey, my friend lived on Colony Barn Road.

01:02:01.780 --> 01:02:03.519
So you've been to Jean's house. It's a long road

01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.539
off the road that I live on. And Jean had gone

01:02:06.539 --> 01:02:08.280
to the trouble. I think she spent maybe a thousand

01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:11.900
dollars on this sign. And it was... low -income

01:02:11.900 --> 01:02:15.280
housing project. And she'd had all these apartments

01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.019
drawn and had a 1 -800 number and then actually

01:02:19.019 --> 01:02:20.940
got the number someone was answering. And it

01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:22.840
was the end of Smoky's Road where you have one

01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.340
house and five acres. And Smoky went crazy thinking

01:02:26.340 --> 01:02:28.500
there was low -income apartment buildings going

01:02:28.500 --> 01:02:31.480
up. And so she was crazy for a few hours and

01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:33.800
then Jean admitted it was her. So Jean does really

01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:37.539
expensive, complicated, thorough pranks on people.

01:02:37.900 --> 01:02:40.059
But you're laughing now, but you don't think...

01:02:40.300 --> 01:02:42.500
It's funny now, but I wouldn't like to be blowing

01:02:42.500 --> 01:02:45.380
up those bags. I don't like being mocked or made

01:02:45.380 --> 01:02:47.340
fun of, and that's what you're doing. To me,

01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.179
that isn't funny. So here's an example. Okay,

01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:52.239
so we're in Detroit. This is back when my parents

01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:56.699
were alive. The whole family converges on my

01:02:56.699 --> 01:02:59.219
parents' place. It was like Easter or something

01:02:59.219 --> 01:03:01.940
like that. Kids, grandkids, you know, it was

01:03:01.940 --> 01:03:06.360
just family mayhem. I walk in, and my brother,

01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:09.909
Greg, takes a chunk of cheese. across the room

01:03:09.909 --> 01:03:12.690
and whips it at me. Oh, that's funny. That's

01:03:12.690 --> 01:03:14.969
funny. Did it hit you in the head? No, no. You

01:03:14.969 --> 01:03:16.190
should have opened your mouth and caught it.

01:03:16.230 --> 01:03:19.190
No, you can't hit me in that. So you just snatched

01:03:19.190 --> 01:03:21.550
it out the air? No, I totally missed. It went

01:03:21.550 --> 01:03:24.190
in the corner. So I didn't want it to just sit

01:03:24.190 --> 01:03:26.929
in my dad's house, a piece of rotting cheese

01:03:26.929 --> 01:03:30.570
in the corner. So I took the cheese and just

01:03:30.570 --> 01:03:33.409
went to his coat, which is by the front door.

01:03:33.469 --> 01:03:35.989
Oh, funny. I just put it in his pocket. That's

01:03:35.989 --> 01:03:40.239
funny. Okay, so. That's funny. Is that a prank

01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:43.260
or is that a retribution? No, I don't know. That's

01:03:43.260 --> 01:03:45.840
not really a prank. And you're not humiliating

01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:47.800
him because I think that would just be funny.

01:03:47.940 --> 01:03:50.159
That one I find funny. So you might say that.

01:03:50.260 --> 01:03:52.900
I test people by throwing things at them. I'll

01:03:52.900 --> 01:03:54.920
do that. So my daughter's boyfriend, I just wanted

01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.559
to test his reflexes. So I threw a potato at

01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.699
him and he went to grab it. He missed and then

01:04:00.699 --> 01:04:03.820
it knocked a plant over on the stand. So is that

01:04:03.820 --> 01:04:06.599
funny? Was it your plant? It was my plant at

01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.639
my house. He thought it was funny. And then after

01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:11.320
that, I would throw things and he'd catch them.

01:04:11.380 --> 01:04:14.780
So there was humour in it. And I broke my own

01:04:14.780 --> 01:04:16.940
plant. So there's a lot of things, but I don't

01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:19.820
like, I wouldn't like that type of humour, but

01:04:19.820 --> 01:04:23.739
I get it. And Gene likes to prank people. But

01:04:23.739 --> 01:04:26.219
I think maybe, I think as a kid, maybe I just

01:04:26.219 --> 01:04:29.239
took myself too seriously. I was made fun of

01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.260
quite a bit as well. So maybe that's something

01:04:31.260 --> 01:04:34.199
to do with it. I had this image to create, to

01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:36.929
keep up as a child. Even the water fights in

01:04:36.929 --> 01:04:38.570
school. I talked about the food fights. I did

01:04:38.570 --> 01:04:40.869
the water fights too. I started all of it. Yeah,

01:04:40.869 --> 01:04:43.250
you walk away when all the fun's going on. But

01:04:43.250 --> 01:04:46.349
I was a 4 .0 student. I was student council of

01:04:46.349 --> 01:04:49.889
the treasury and just lead jazz trumpeter. Nobody

01:04:49.889 --> 01:04:53.469
in the world would expect me to cause all these

01:04:53.469 --> 01:04:54.909
problems. You were this rebel underneath all

01:04:54.909 --> 01:04:57.750
that. That's all it was. So I was a covert operative.

01:04:57.750 --> 01:04:59.849
Yeah, you were, didn't you, as a kid? I was good

01:04:59.849 --> 01:05:03.090
training. You know, my dad... again, it was,

01:05:03.090 --> 01:05:05.429
he'd always call us names and they were sometimes

01:05:05.429 --> 01:05:08.690
not, like, we went to my, we went to White Lake,

01:05:08.750 --> 01:05:11.289
Michigan and my uncle had a catamaran. You're

01:05:11.289 --> 01:05:12.829
familiar with the catamarans, right? It was just,

01:05:12.869 --> 01:05:14.650
it was called a Hobie cat. I think it was about

01:05:14.650 --> 01:05:17.590
20 foot, 18 or 20 foot. I don't know anything

01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:20.769
about sailing, but it was there and I'm like,

01:05:20.809 --> 01:05:22.269
well, I'm going to damn well learn. So it was

01:05:22.269 --> 01:05:24.710
just me and the Hobie cat and we go out, I just

01:05:24.710 --> 01:05:26.309
go out there and I'm trying to figure out how

01:05:26.309 --> 01:05:28.369
did this, this whole thing work and get the sail

01:05:28.369 --> 01:05:32.409
right. Just no lessons, just. me the hobie cat

01:05:32.409 --> 01:05:38.730
in this lake and i got it up on one on one because

01:05:38.730 --> 01:05:41.610
deliberately oh yeah yeah i got it up on one

01:05:41.610 --> 01:05:44.090
hull is that how you turn then i mean you can

01:05:44.090 --> 01:05:46.550
turn without right one hull but what's the point

01:05:46.550 --> 01:05:49.190
in getting one side i didn't really intend to

01:05:49.190 --> 01:05:51.250
it just happened that way i just got so much

01:05:51.250 --> 01:05:53.969
speed and then it took the corner so you're you're

01:05:53.969 --> 01:05:55.590
laying out on i don't know what the i don't know

01:05:55.590 --> 01:05:57.610
these terms i was just a kid yeah i'm laying

01:05:57.610 --> 01:05:59.969
out trying to keep it balanced and then eventually

01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.840
I did something wrong and the bow, the forward

01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:07.460
bow of the lower hull dug in and I launched.

01:06:07.659 --> 01:06:10.960
I launched like probably, it was probably hilarious

01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:13.320
to watch. I was 20 feet in the air, just took

01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.900
a dive and the Hobie care was completely upside

01:06:15.900 --> 01:06:20.420
down where the mast was straight down. It's not

01:06:20.420 --> 01:06:22.480
even the middle of the lake. Yeah. I'm like.

01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:24.619
And how did you feel? Were you thinking that

01:06:24.619 --> 01:06:26.340
was funny or were you self -conscious? Oh, you

01:06:26.340 --> 01:06:29.500
know, I. When you hit the water that hard. Yeah.

01:06:29.780 --> 01:06:33.179
It's sobering. It's like you got the air punched

01:06:33.179 --> 01:06:36.699
out of you. So when I'm sitting there, I swim

01:06:36.699 --> 01:06:38.579
back to the boat. I'm like, dang, how do I get

01:06:38.579 --> 01:06:41.980
back now? Because there's my upside down Hobie

01:06:41.980 --> 01:06:45.219
cat. Yeah. So I righted it and I ended up getting

01:06:45.219 --> 01:06:47.980
it, you know, getting my weight and riding it.

01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:50.800
And I got back. And to me, I was proud of myself

01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.219
because I. Did something that... Yeah, learned

01:06:53.219 --> 01:06:55.860
the hard way. I learned, I took my knocks. And

01:06:55.860 --> 01:06:58.320
then righted the situation. I was pretty proud

01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.960
of myself for even attempting that. To go back,

01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:04.559
yeah. And then just the whole experience, I learned

01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.059
from it, and I became better. Even though I got

01:07:08.059 --> 01:07:11.679
freaking plastered out there from this experience,

01:07:11.900 --> 01:07:14.500
I learned from it. So I make my way back, my

01:07:14.500 --> 01:07:18.480
dad in front of everybody. Like, everybody was

01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:23.159
there. Started calling me Captain Nemo, which

01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:27.820
is the submarine captain, whatever. That's not

01:07:27.820 --> 01:07:30.159
okay with me. It wouldn't have been with me either.

01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:31.579
I wouldn't have liked it. He was totally making

01:07:31.579 --> 01:07:34.789
fun of me. What do you do if your kid and your

01:07:34.789 --> 01:07:36.769
dad's, you know, and that wasn't just, that wasn't

01:07:36.769 --> 01:07:39.030
a one -off thing. My dad made fun of all of us

01:07:39.030 --> 01:07:41.789
and I seem to catch a lot more of it for some

01:07:41.789 --> 01:07:43.630
reason. What was he trying to do? Strengthen

01:07:43.630 --> 01:07:45.750
you or something? Well, I don't know. Maybe he

01:07:45.750 --> 01:07:48.050
felt inadequate as a man himself. You can't,

01:07:48.050 --> 01:07:50.130
you can't fight your dad. You can't push back.

01:07:50.210 --> 01:07:54.630
So I would do things like, like this one time

01:07:54.630 --> 01:07:56.409
I was at his house and he was making fun of me.

01:07:56.429 --> 01:08:01.750
So I just left and I took paper towels. And I

01:08:01.750 --> 01:08:05.369
stuffed them all the way in the toe of his slipper.

01:08:05.630 --> 01:08:07.929
Right. Oh, that's funny. I just packed it up.

01:08:08.849 --> 01:08:12.349
So I was just packed in this when he put on his

01:08:12.349 --> 01:08:14.869
slipper. Yeah. It was like, damn, my foot got

01:08:14.869 --> 01:08:18.029
big. And to make that funny, you would have had

01:08:18.029 --> 01:08:20.609
to have imagined his reaction in your mind because

01:08:20.609 --> 01:08:22.850
you'd have to use your imagination. It was very

01:08:22.850 --> 01:08:24.770
benign. No big deal. He reaches and it's done.

01:08:24.850 --> 01:08:27.369
But it is very funny. That's good. The funny

01:08:27.369 --> 01:08:29.649
part to me was that. I didn't get blamed for

01:08:29.649 --> 01:08:34.630
it. My brother did. Oh, my God. It was a great

01:08:34.630 --> 01:08:36.310
life because I never got blamed for anything.

01:08:36.569 --> 01:08:39.390
Yeah. But I got away with it. Yeah. I got away

01:08:39.390 --> 01:08:42.390
with so much stuff. Yeah, clandestine. Totally

01:08:42.390 --> 01:08:45.149
covert operative. It's crazy. So this has been

01:08:45.149 --> 01:08:46.670
a lot of fun. Yes, it's been good. Do you have

01:08:46.670 --> 01:08:49.069
any other notes about humor? No, nothing at all.

01:08:49.090 --> 01:08:51.789
No, I'm done now laughing for the next month.

01:08:52.229 --> 01:08:55.970
It's been good, though. It's been good. I'm really

01:08:55.970 --> 01:08:57.949
grateful for those of you listening and you have

01:08:57.949 --> 01:08:59.949
some funny quips and things, you know, certainly

01:08:59.949 --> 01:09:02.869
drop us a note. You can go to soul decodes .com.

01:09:03.329 --> 01:09:05.590
This is, I think this is the farting preacher

01:09:05.590 --> 01:09:09.350
video. We should try to put a link to that. You

01:09:09.350 --> 01:09:11.750
know, take some time to laugh at yourself, find

01:09:11.750 --> 01:09:15.829
humor. Yeah. Whatever it takes to bring some

01:09:15.829 --> 01:09:18.250
levity. And once you can do it for yourself,

01:09:18.310 --> 01:09:20.430
you see, you can't give something that you don't

01:09:20.430 --> 01:09:25.119
have. So if you take yourself so seriously, what

01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:27.899
kind of joy and light and levity are you going

01:09:27.899 --> 01:09:31.060
to bring to other people? Yeah. So learn to laugh

01:09:31.060 --> 01:09:33.460
at yourself, not for the purpose of being able

01:09:33.460 --> 01:09:35.840
to laugh at others, but to be an example for

01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.840
them to learn to laugh at themselves. Yeah. Right?

01:09:39.020 --> 01:09:40.460
Yeah. Do you have anything to add to that? No,

01:09:40.460 --> 01:09:42.680
I find it quite difficult to laugh at myself.

01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:46.359
Well, maybe this is... No, it's getting better

01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:48.279
with age. Maybe this is for you. Like a mature

01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:51.859
cheese. Maybe it is for me. Now, I can laugh

01:09:51.859 --> 01:09:55.479
at myself, yeah, but it's not always been easy.

01:09:56.340 --> 01:09:59.760
I'm quite a serious person, but I respect that

01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:03.000
as being something I could pursue. I'll teach

01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.239
you. Okay, thank you. Because I'm like the biggest

01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.300
goofball. I'm like the biggest goofball out there,

01:10:08.380 --> 01:10:13.789
so you're going to be really... Tickled. Tickled

01:10:13.789 --> 01:10:18.270
with how absurd you are. I hope so. In an adorable

01:10:18.270 --> 01:10:20.630
way. In an adorable way. Okay, y 'all. Go to

01:10:20.630 --> 01:10:23.289
souldecoaches .com. And for those of you who

01:10:23.289 --> 01:10:24.850
listened to the past couple episodes and you

01:10:24.850 --> 01:10:29.369
saw that we had things that were previously recorded

01:10:29.369 --> 01:10:32.109
from other episodes, go back and listen to those.

01:10:32.710 --> 01:10:35.770
It's not like those items were not valuable to

01:10:35.770 --> 01:10:37.770
listen to. They're actually really good episodes

01:10:37.770 --> 01:10:40.090
with some really good lessons and some really

01:10:40.090 --> 01:10:43.289
good sharing between us. So just because it was

01:10:43.289 --> 01:10:45.609
previously recorded doesn't mean it wasn't really

01:10:45.609 --> 01:10:49.189
valuable. It's just that Sarah and I just couldn't

01:10:49.189 --> 01:10:52.050
pull it together last week. I couldn't pull it

01:10:52.050 --> 01:10:54.409
together, everyone, because I had a bigger fish

01:10:54.409 --> 01:10:57.569
to fry and I moved house and I'm here with my

01:10:57.569 --> 01:10:59.369
niece trying to hold everything together. So

01:10:59.369 --> 01:11:02.159
it was my fault. There's no fault. It's all good.

01:11:02.699 --> 01:11:05.380
But that's why we had the foresight to record

01:11:05.380 --> 01:11:06.760
some spares. Yeah, it's nice to have a few in

01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.100
the can. We had a few spares, so we might as

01:11:09.100 --> 01:11:11.399
well burn them. Okay, y 'all, have a great week.

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