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Hello beautiful people and welcome to the Treehouse here on Phillips Island. It's a beautiful day and I'm with, I'm way out of my league. I am so, so far out of my league.
I'm with the writer and philosopher and thinker, Sarah Teary here at the Treehouse. And Sarah, what's on your mind today? Well, a lot. Really? Okay, going to have to break it down. Okay.
So, it's just a little bit of business first and I thought it might be good to have a little business meeting live because then the listeners will be in on our manifestation process. They're part of it.
They're part of it, that's right. So, how do you feel about doing an event, a live event and we'll perhaps, I'll have to tell you about, let me just give you this format first and when I tell you about what I'm going to tell you about afterwards, then this will make more sense.
But we could do it at the Chamber of Commerce in town. And I think, I'm not sure their capacity may be 175 people and we can advertise it in the newsletter. And we come together and we do question and answer formats.
So, we'd be sitting on the stage and we'd be talking about what we talk about here on this show. But we do it and then the audience will ask us questions. So, I love it already.
I love it. Well, you know, the one thing that we have going for us is we're not scripted. Like everything is just off the cuff and sometimes we'll just take like a 90 degree turn.
Love them. One way or the other. Story of my life. I know, right? Welcome to my world.
But, you know, in one regard, it's like, you know, you're kind of throwing yourselves out there to the what ifs of the world. But I think it's super exciting. And I actually...
And you've performed on stage. Of course. So, I do. I think I'm going to have a bit of stage fright, but I'm so over going to come. I'm going to overcome this.
Because you've got your big sister here. That's good. You know, I like it. And I've actually made a lot of friends with the Chamber lately. I'm not a member of the Chamber. I'm not...
This is kind of a weird thing, but I'm a voluntarist. I'm not a collectivist in any regard. What's the difference? So, part of my idea is that... A voluntarist. A voluntarist. Yes. A voluntarist.
So, it's actually kind of a subset of libertarianism. I don't like labels of any kind, but a voluntarist simply has the belief that all transactions between we the peoples, like we humans, are voluntary.
They should not be forced. Like, we're creators. We're independent. We're sovereigns, right? And that if you and I decide to do something as consenting adults, we have the right to do that.
And if we decide to not do things, we should be able to not do those things too. Yes. Yes. So, all transactions should be voluntary. Right. It's the ultimate freedom.
The ultimate freedom. And the idea is that if you're a sovereign soul and you have the capacity to make decisions for yourself and you're not harming other people, breaking their things, stealing their property...
Yes, being mean and rude. Lying or cheating or stealing. Petty. Right. You're not that. You're not those things. You're not lying, cheating, stealing, breaking your word, breaking your promises. You're not doing those things.
You're not a scumbag. You're not a scumbag. Thank you. You're welcome. Why didn't I just pick your words? I'm the writer. You're the writer. Can I say all that stuff, Tijuli? Tijuli, can you use one word like scumbag?
It was building in my mind. This is the word I chose. There could have been a few of them. Right. So, you know, if you're not those people, then all transactions are voluntary.
And so what we find is that if you really dissect the world around us, the things that go wrong are usually the result of the use of force.
Holy moly. That's a massive idea. Yeah. And so, and force comes in all sorts of different flavors, right? There's economic force where it's like, I'm going to tax you to death. Cultural. Or cultural, like, oh, you're one of those people, right? And that's part of one of my stories. Or a family dynamic. Family. It's just everywhere.
It goes everywhere. It's like, because usually it's from when people put a label on somebody else, like, oh, you're a middle child. It's tribalism. It's like, what the hell is middle child? Yeah. Oh, it becomes a syndrome at that point. Oh, you're from Detroit. Oh, you've got blonde hair. Right.
Well, you know, it's like, you must not have any brains, right? But it's like two blinds talking to each other here. But, you know, from Detroit, people are like, oh, you're from Detroit. What does that mean? What's the mythology with Detroit in America? What are you if you're from Detroit?
Well, I think Detroit's the rock capital of the world. What is the demeaning? It's the Motown. Oh, the demeaning part would be like, oh, and you survived. Like, it used to be the murder capital of the world. But, you know, now then it bounced to Houston and then Kansas City and New Orleans. It's just the thing, you know, back in the 70s.
You had a hardcore label. Yeah, because, you know, it's just the city of Detroit was kind of imploding upon itself. And a lot of reasons for it. You know, I don't want to go into those things. But basically, they took away this idea of free enterprise. And they try to instill these Marxist ideologies upon the city. And all of a sudden, everybody wanted stuff and they didn't want to work for it.
And the next thing you know, there's like no incentive. And there's a bunch of nepotism and, you know, pay to play type of schemes. And the whole city imploded. Well, they labeled the problems Detroit had with racism. And oh my goodness. And there's all and so now you start labeling and dividing and conquering.
And you're taking down these major cities. And it's not just Detroit. It's a lot of major cities. But this is a systematic theory of how to break this down. It's like a textbook. If you were writing this, this is how you do it.
Oh, totally. Like if somebody like I said, somebody a third person besides the two of us had this nefarious concept that they're going to get Tia Jolie and Sarah to fight with each other. Right? How would you do that? Like you and I love each other. How would you divide us? How would you you'd probably start to create lies like, oh, you wouldn't believe what Tia Jolie said behind your back. Right? Or, you know, you don't want to work with with Sarah because she's a member of the road to freedom.
The Rotary Club.
And the Rotary Club starts with gossip and malicious intent. Yeah. And then they start to divide you. But like you and I were beyond there was like, you'd pull me aside and say, Tia Jolie, I heard you said this. Is that true? And I go, no. Yeah. If I had an issue with you, I'd come. Yes. I look you dead in the eye and say, girlfriend, we got to talk about something. Right. And that that's kind of how that play out. But a lot of people don't want to be uncomfortable doing that. I don't mind being uncomfortable. And I can be confrontational.
Should the need arise. So it doesn't. But a lot of people, but a lot of people, no way. Really? But a lot of people would would gossip as a means of trying to deal with an issue, but going straight to the person and looking them dead in the eye. And that's the only way to deal with it. Otherwise, all this stuff gets just cast about. So there's no, that's no problem solved at all either.
You know, for better or for worse, this darn internet, to me, the internet's beautiful. I'm an entrepreneur. It's the Wild West. You know, there's so much positivity with the internet. I wouldn't know so many things. I wouldn't publish my books without the new technology.
And honestly, I didn't pick up a bass guitar until I was 45 years old. And so I wouldn't have learned how to play bass. Everything in life is has a flip side, though, doesn't it? So the internet's fantastic. But well, the flip side of it is that, you know, it tends to bring out the most nasty part of people.
Because you can be really brave when you're behind like this computer screen. It's like, I can be like, you know, Genghis Khan, Mrs. Genghis Khan and just kind of destroy and, you know, take over things because I'm all brave. But then when you get out...
Well, you're actually a coward because you're hiring.
You're a coward. You're hiring.
I think you're brave.
You got all these people. It brings out the best and the worst because like, but if you met that person at the post office or the grocery store, and they're them and you're you, you're these warring, opposing parties, and you're ideologically polarized, but you meet them, you're going to find out that most of the things that are important to you, not whether you're politically blue or green or red or purple, whatever your political ideology is, most of the things that are important to you,
are probably important to the other person too.
Yes, I agree.
So all of this divisiveness that we see, you know, because, oh, you're one of them.
Yeah, it's a label, but it's tribalism. There's an opponent. I mean, a lot of people can only get along with other people if they adopt a similar belief system because they feel safe. They feel, okay, they're one of me. They're one of my kind.
And that might have had its uses in evolution, right? It had an evolutionary purpose. But what you're talking about now, this has just gone haywire. We don't need to be. We don't, I don't have to think and agree with everything that you think and agree about.
We're going to agree on a lot. I bet you our core values are very, very similar. But a lot of people find comfort if people are like-minded.
If one of your core values is world dominance?
Mind's world peace. If you have to dominate for a while, you might have to.
I was just joking around there. But, you know, we have a lot of stuff that's important to you to cover today. And I actually have a couple fascinating things that I want to bounce off you.
Okay, good.
That kind of happened to me last week.
Oh, yes. You're in Texas.
Oh, yeah. So why don't you go first with, you know, what's your first, what do you want to lead off with?
So do you remember I told you I was interested in buying a lake home a few months ago?
Yes, I do. And I was like disappointed when it didn't happen.
Well, that's what I want to get into because that's the metaphysics behind this. So this beautiful lake home that I'd picked out, it was 2900 square feet, two story cottage on Lake Minnehaha.
As you know, that's a big, beautiful lake. And the deal fell through. And I had two places in my mind that I could have gone to.
The first one was fuck. And I just kind of went in not for long.
I remember you got dark there for about 10 seconds. Yes, it wasn't for long.
And then there's still small voice and the Holy Spirit, my inner guidance system, my higher self said, no, you're going to have your house on the lake.
So I was able to abide in absolute peace and with a smile on my face because I knew that this was going to manifest.
So just let it go. Give it back to the universe. God, you got this. And then my son called me and he showed me another house.
And it's on Lake Crescent. And so Lake Crescent is off Lake Shore Drive. So if you leave my house and you go into town, you stay on 561 on the left and then you can go on to Lake Shore Drive.
That takes you past Lake Crescent and then onto Lake Minnehaha. I'm on Lake Crescent directly on the lake.
This is the new place. OK. And I was going to downsize with the old place because that was 2900 square feet.
This is 1500 square foot bigger than my old house. We didn't downsize. That's how big this house is.
This new one. It's on the lake. This is 5500 square feet. This new one. So it's bigger than this house. Oh my God. It was so ridiculous.
I like your idea of downsizing. I know. And it's just so fantastic. We've got a great deal on it. And this is the big kick of well, there's loads of kickers in this, the way it's architecturally designed.
But it faces west. So the sun sets every night on my lake. I love it. So I see it every night and I've always loved sunsets.
And now I get one every night and I've been floating. I've been walking around positive. Your tan is ridiculous. I've been working in the garden.
Sitting on my dock. I've been working in the garden. So I've got this ridiculous farmer tan. And you know, like, clearly look at this.
Don't laugh at me. Yes. You'll have to wear a bikini. I know because it's right across my armpit.
You'll have to wear a thong and a boob tube. I know, right? So but here's the important question about your new place.
I'll wait till you're done drinking. This is water, by the way. Right. Yeah, water. It's water. So can I land my seaplane there?
Is the lake big enough? Well, how much runway do you need? Well, I didn't buy the plane yet.
So I just need how much water way. Well, we'd have to go out there and do a reconnaissance mission because Ray is going to put his boat on the dock.
Let's go out there and measure it. Well, I need depends on the plane. What size are they like a 152? Well, it depends on what I get.
If I get like a caravan for 12 of us, then it's I'm going to need like probably 5000 feet. No wind. But oh, you've got that.
Well, I'll have to go find out. Yeah, we'll do. We'll have to go. We'll go on a boat trip. But if it's just like a small like a two or three passenger,
you know, like a small four passenger like float, yes, we could probably get away with less than 3000 feet. Let's go out there and have a look.
But I still have to buy it, which means I still have to earn it. It's I'm in the process of manifesting. That's right.
Be careful what you manifest though, because I went from one house to this. I know, right. I'm going to end up with a jumbo jet or something on skis.
I want a hand built for you. Well, congratulations. That's so exciting. And the other part of this Wednesday. Wait, wait, this Wednesday.
Yes. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. And the other part of this downstairs, it has this. So when you walk in, it has to.
Did you see the musical The Sound of Music? I have, yeah. OK, no, the staircase in that. Of course. There's one on the left and right.
So when you walk in, there's this massive gallery rail that overlooks the lake. That's probably 30 feet wide.
And then there's two staircases that spiral down. And then at the bottom of the house, you have this huge room.
And I'm not sure of the measurements, but I would say it's something like 50 feet by 50 feet, something like big.
And I thought maybe we could have some gatherings there. Oh, my God. You know what? I love the way you think.
You're to the point when you need to be and you're tangential when you need to be. I love that. So well, good for you. Yes.
That's lovely. I'm excited. Are you going to have a studio like we can still do? Oh, I'm going to have a podcast studio.
OK, I've got a podcast studio going and I have an office, so they'll be separate.
OK, yes, that's going to be beautiful. All right. So excited. Well, thank you for letting me in on the secret.
So you can come and see it now anytime you want. For those of you listening, if it sounds like like this is just totally spontaneous.
When Sarah and I talked to her in the week, it's always like when I ask her questions like, well, and she's like, no, no, no, it's got to be on the air.
So like we have no private conversations anymore. No, we don't. We don't.
It's a very singular, very singular relationship. Yeah.
It's like I'll talk to you about it on the air. So it's really precious. And I love it. It's like, oh, my God, I can't wait to see you now.
Not that that matters. No, but it's nice. So it's like, it's a great motivation.
It's like so when I respond to something like a new house or a concept, it's like so so raw because I'm just hearing about it.
Yeah. So that's all cool. What else? So your trip to Austin. OK, yeah.
So this was amazing. We actually drove from you. We drove from Florida. Yeah. So how many miles is that? More than five.
More than five miles. It's like five thousand. No, it's a road trip.
But Robin and I sometimes we enjoy jumping in Raven that we name our cars. Your big caddy. My Cadillac.
It's the de-escalade. Knack paddywhack still riding Cadillac. Right.
But I know I get a lot of grief from my my brother. They're like big into like saving gas and electric vehicles and all that stuff.
And I get these evil looks about it's like, OK, I can't stand it.
If you want to talk about so-called fossil fuels sometimes and what a what a what you do do for the planet.
What a Psyop. What a Psyop. Yeah. The whole fossil fuel to the wrong person.
It's like, yeah, you don't even want to go there. No, I want to talk to you, but you don't want to talk to me.
That's it. But it's complete Psyop. We have so much oil like it's this world has got so much oil.
But they will go over there another time. But so we decided to drive for for several reasons.
Road trip. Well, we actually enjoy road trips. Yeah, we do.
Because, you know, we stop. We we like to pull up. Did you go on a route that you haven't been on before?
Well, there's no easy routes to get there. Like if I wanted to take four days, I could do that.
But it took two days as it is. You know, we just we just usually stop.
We drive like two thirds of the way and pull off some.
So you'll do it. How many hours do you spend in one stop in a car?
I mean, I can't I don't like to sit for more than two or three hours.
And then you get up and we get up and switch seats like, you know, Robin will drive for a bit.
So we'll take turns. And it's very flexible.
Do you listen to music or do you just talk? We do. We talk. We sleep. We listen.
I mean, now I'm driving. But, you know, just you know what we do?
We just we're both so busy that when we're driving in the car, it's our it's our chance to just.
Talk about stuff. There's no agenda. It's kind of like this.
We look forward to it. Not that we look forward to the long hours and hours on the road, but we don't we don't.
It's it's not something we despair about. It's like, well, you can't you have to accept it.
This can't be any other. Yeah. The other thing is we had gifts for my son and his wife.
They live in Austin. He works for the state for DOT. What's that?
Department of Transportation. He's an analyst. Does the he analyzes the satellite data.
Oh, they figure out where the next roads and just all that stuff.
It sounds interesting. Oh, yeah. It's fascinating. It's like way out of my way out of my room.
That's yeah. I'm a nerd, but that's yeah. I ask you a lot of questions and I'll be blinking a lot.
So but we had a great time. We just missed his birthday by a day or two.
We had his birthday and his wife's birthday. And if you look around their kitchen, virtually everything in the kitchen is stuff we gave them.
Like really nice, you know, just just things that make life in the kitchen easier because Robin's a chef.
So it's simple for us to say, OK, this works for us.
This is a premium appliance that everybody needs. You've tested and we tested and true.
And we give them so sweet to them. We went out to lunch and dinner and went to South Congress Street, which is due south of Austin.
And it's it's a street you can look straight up and see the whole skyline of Austin.
It's oh, it's it's nice photos. I got one. It's actually on my Facebook.
It's it's I'll send it to you. But but what's on this street?
Is it restaurants, cafes? Yeah, you know, it's very it's very cool street. It's like.
It's like old time Austin. There's there's places, art shops and galleries and music and, you know, mystics and, you know,
that's yes, I have to visit Austin. It's just all that funky stuff.
Yeah, it is your vibe. Yeah. They even had like all the girls with their little boots, their little white boots on and stuff.
I'm like, dang, I forgot my white boots. It was so cute and adorable.
You know, there's we listen to this little band. They're singing the blues. There's a female bass player.
So it was super cool. But but but it kind of dovetails into something.
I wanted to bounce off you. So I'll go back to Austin in a second.
We then we drove up. We had a nutraceutical convention in Dallas and met some of my old my other friends and stuff that are in the industry.
And the nutraceutical is an organization. So nutraceuticals are these are medical grade nutrients that are formulated to have a positive impact on human health.
So, you know, a lot of them so-called pharmaceuticals that are out there are actually petroleum based.
Like they're they're derived from the byproducts from the petroleum industry.
And those are not always good for your body. That's why you have so many. Does it sound like it should be good? Does it?
Yeah, it's just like that's why there's so many like, by the way, you know, you can get rid of your acne with this drug, but your leg might fall off.
Right. But it's like, so there's a lot of us that are going more towards nature.
These plants, the roots, the leaves, the fruits, you know, the skins.
Nature gives us a lot of really beautiful compounds that are great, great, great, great grandparents.
They knew about this stuff. But our school system, even our medical doctors, they're absolutely ignorant as a rule.
There's a few exceptions, but as a rule, they're ignorant. And that's why people prescribe the chemical.
Yeah, and those double prescribe the chemical.
But they don't understand that the chemical was based on something that was originally found in nature.
So just go back to nature. You can almost always find that.
So I found out last week I had a blood panel and I have a vitamin B12 deficiency.
Sure. So I need to talk to you about that.
Sure. Yeah. So yeah, here's an example. Great, great example. There's four types of vitamin vitamin B12.
I'm learning how to speak the king's English, the queen's English. But B12 is called. There's there's four types of B12.
I don't want to get into the chemistry, but there's four types of B12. B12 from from the soil comes from healthy soil.
Healthy soil is soil that's got bacteria and fungal activity.
And that comes through the product, the what's grown in that soil.
Yeah. So you like you'll have bacteria in the soil that's eating the decaying matter.
Right. So you might have like if you look at healthy soil, it's got bacteria and fungal activity.
There's a there's quite a called a mycelium. It's under the soil. It's a network.
It's complete network of fungal activity. Right. And these plants communicate.
If you've ever seen the movie Avatar, the you know, the plants were communicating under the soil.
That's actually true. They actually do communicate with each other under the soil.
But it's not just the fungus, it's the bacteria. It's a complete ecosystem under the soil.
Of course it would be, though. But I mean, this is what God did. Whatever created this has to function beautifully, minutely and in detail with precision.
So this is not. Yeah. And when you look at the circle of.
So it's the soil that's really, really important. So that allows you to put fruit and vegetables, grow fruit and vegetables in it.
And then the vitamin, in my case, the vitamin B12 is going to be in what I'm consuming.
The B12 comes from it's the metabolic byproduct of bacteria in the soil.
So the bacteria break down and they they they manja. Right.
They they eat, they they live, they breathe, they digest, they procreate and they poop and they pee. Right.
So they get rid of stuff into the soil.
Some of that byproduct, a lot of that byproduct is beneficial to us, most notably B12.
So the more you can eat healthy, healthy foods from the soil, the soils that are not chemical and.
So when I go to Publix and I buy beetroots and cabbage, this is not going to give me.
No. What you want to do is come to Phillips Island.
I'll walk you to my garden and I'll have you taste raw asparagus right from right from the garden.
Break it off. You don't cook it. You just eat it. And I'll give it to you.
We have right now we have everglade tomatoes.
They're they're as big as your little pinky nail.
They're tiny little things, but they're crazy delicious.
And I'll just give you some. And that's what a real tomato grown in real soil.
So when it says at Publix organic, can you trust that to be good soil?
It used to be you could trust organic, but you really can't anymore.
There's also things that even if it's organic, the FDA, which is really a it stands for fraud and deception.
Agents fraud and disruption, deception agents call out to my friend, call out to my chiropractor friend, John Bergman in South California for that.
Hi, John. So John Bergman is a chiropractor.
Just an amazing guy, probably more knows more than he knows more.
He was a guest. I don't think I could afford him.
He'd do it pro bono. You know what? I'm just going to John Bergman is one of the smartest doctors I know.
He's read more than anybody I know. He took his business down to San Diego.
He was in San Diego. He took it down to Mexico like Tijuana, just so he can do the things that have to be done and not be regulated by the US regulators.
So let's back up because we talked about vitamin vitamin B12 and a supplement for now.
And it's in supplements. Some some supplements are better than others.
You let me know. We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about that. But you want it to be as close to nature as possible.
And so what there's we'll talk later about the types of B12 and why they're important to you.
So so we had this neutral. I everyone's listening.
They're they're head spinning because we're in Dallas a minute ago.
Yes. And we went to be 12 deficiency. So back to Dallas.
So we're in Dallas for the nutraceutical convention.
But after the convention, I met up with my my daughter, my only daughter, and I met my youngest grandson.
Oh, my good name is Lucas. And he's just such a lovely.
How old is he? Five, four or five months now.
Oh, yeah, he's doing right out of the oven. And he's just so precious and so.
Congratulations. That's lovely. I'll show you a picture.
So we just you know, we laughed, we cried, we had we had a great Greek dinner together and just just really, really good reunion.
Just had some some fun. But I need to go back to Austin now because I want to bounce this off of you because this is something that has never,
ever happened to me before. And it's worthy of talking about within the context of our souls journey.
Good. OK, so I'm going to be talking to author authoress Sarah Terry about this,
because within the context of your books and your experiences and like your library is amazing,
between you and John John Bergman, I don't know who's read more.
But but you know, and one thing one last thing on John Bergman, when I was in the homestretch for my Ph.D.
like he and I are not friends like we've actually never met, but he was an inspiration to me to just get that done.
Like, oh, just because, you know, when you're in that homestretch, there's just you're tired, you're cranky, you're just burned out.
And you know, the goal and you know, just his he's such a wealth of information and he helps so many people.
And I just wanted to be like him when I grow up, right? You know, I just he's just that he was such an inspiration to me.
I don't think he even knows it. But but he just knowing him and seeing what he does for people helped me get over the finish line emotionally.
So that's why I just want to give him that call. But as if he's ever going to hear it. Big John.
So so we had dinner. I was we were walking up Congress where we went down one side and up the other.
And the kids were hungry because kids are always hungry. Right.
And so I said, just pick a place. We'll go eat there. So they just said, oh, we have to go this pizza place.
It was a pizza place that had these tables right on the on the street. Right.
Yes. Right. Al Fresco. Yes. And so we we were sitting there.
We ordered our pizza. You know, we're eating and just visiting and having a good time.
And it was almost sunset. And this homeless lady, she had, you know, like the what do you call it?
The burka, the the hijab, hijab. Yeah. Yeah.
The job with the band. And she was all robed up and she had these combat boots on and she was pushing the cart. Right.
I looked, it's like this is a stereotypical homeless lady.
And I saw her like we were like three tables away from the sidewalk.
So we're not like right next to the sidewalk. But I was able to see her.
And she stopped at the first table and asked for food. And they ignored her.
And she went to the second table and asked for food and they ignored her.
She went to the third table and they ignored her. And I'm like, oh crap, I got to help this lady.
So she started to go like past the restaurant, just evidently giving up.
So I told her I ran. I told my kids and my spouse. I said, hold on a second.
I got so I ran to the lady and I'm like, come over here. I'm going to give you some food.
And so she parked her baggage like, you know, the vertical cart, you know, that sometimes you see.
It wasn't like a grocery cart, just a vertical cart.
And so we walk up to the window and I told the lady, I said, I want to buy her some food.
Here's the money, whatever she wants. Just give her just give her some food. Right.
And the lady looked at me, didn't say anything, just looked at me and I went back to my table.
So I just prepaid her food and she ordered some stuff.
After she got her food, she was walking by our table and I thought, OK, well, you know, I don't.
I want to interact with my kids, not this lady, although I did want to feed her. Right.
So she walks up to the table and I thought, oh, this is kind.
She's probably she's she's probably going to say, you know, thanks for this lovely.
Thank you. Bless you. Whatever.
She looks at my spouse and says, are you a Jew?
And I'm like, isn't life funny where one reality and the next minute reality has changed.
What? And she's like, you look like a Jew.
This. No, I mean, I I have a lot of friends. They're Jewish.
And I'm like, I don't even know what that means.
So then she looks at me and she starts to she looks at me and says,
you know, there's a car show in Austin this weekend.
Wouldn't it be terrible if a bomb went off there?
Oh, I'm just like, holy shit.
So my kids are sitting there and she starts to she starts to launch on me about how evil America is.
And I was just like, I did not see this coming.
No. So were you quick to adjust in your head?
Well, so she was wearing this very large like you couldn't see her form.
And I was thinking I immediately thought to myself, now your guard is up.
She's pissed off. And now you don't know what you're dealing with.
Well, the thing is, like, I was the farthest away from her and my family was between me and her.
So I was like, OK, I don't know if she's armed, if she's going to be one of those crazy people.
I had no idea. Blows herself up or something.
So she was but I was just I didn't know what to think.
What a situation to find yourself in.
So I stood up and I walked towards her. Right.
Because sometimes you have to.
Well, you have to you have to show some dominance in that situation.
You also got to get control because you want your family behind you.
So I put my family behind me and I told her I and she was really getting in my face.
And I said, she started asking me a bunch of questions about this, you know, America's policies and all this stuff.
And I just coherent in her speech.
She was very much so. In fact, I spoke to my I spoke to my spouse about this afterwards.
But I'll get back to that. She was very coherent.
She had direct eye contact. She had her vernacular was excellent.
And I'll just fast forward.
I was thinking at the afterwards, it's like I wonder if this was like a test of some kind where she was like a university professor from University of Texas, Austin.
And she was, you know, trying to get the gauge or maybe some sort of a social experiment or maybe there's a camera here.
Yeah. I mean, you're going into realms which would lead to paranoia, but they're definitely worth asking because you don't know what is going on.
You know, and what's this with this lady's agenda? Yeah.
And so I literally told her, I said, I will answer your questions, but I'll do it over by your bag.
And I didn't wait for her. I walked over to her bag.
I just walked right over is like 30 feet away by the corner.
I got her away from my family and I basically and how what was her as a carry on.
So she continued to tell me all about her, her beliefs and I don't want to say her beliefs because you see, I went to fucking listen to her at that point.
The moment she'd said to Robin, are you a Jew?
And you could see that she was angry. You were really good because you allowed her some forum to vent.
I think I would have been like, fuck this shit. Well, it wasn't very long.
It was maybe 30 seconds and I'm like, yeah, this is not going the way I expected.
And you are not cool. And I'm out of your vicinity.
So I wanted to get her away from my family, which is what I did.
And so she was like I was by her cart and we were literally like beak to beak about 18 inches face to face.
And I was just like I told her, but I was very peaceful because she can get angry.
But just because somebody's angry in your face doesn't mean you can't be a peaceful warrior.
Yeah. And so I look you do have very calming, peaceful energy.
Well, I mean, it just just exudes from you. So that's great that you practice that.
You know, she's loud and belligerent.
Yeah. Well, as a special operator, you never want things to escalate.
You always want to de-escalate things always.
And one of the best ways you can do that is by bringing your voice down and just being so the conversation ended probably another less than a minute later.
But I told her, I said the way I wrapped it up was I said, it sounds like based on your belief systems that you believe that Americans are very evil people.
And she's she agreed. I said, and you shared with me that because America's evil, it's up to you to point out those evils and to do something about it.
And she says, you're that's exactly right. And she's agreeing with me because you want to get agreement.
Well played. And I said, I said, and according to what I'm perceiving, your God is going to smile upon you because you're doing the right thing and calling out these evils.
Well done. And she says, yes. And I said, I want you to know that your God is extremely happy with you for calling out those evils.
Did you? I sold her that. Oh, my goodness. Did you?
And I said, but you're being sarcastic. I said, you've done a good job. Oh, my goodness. You affirmed her.
And it's time for you to move along. Oh, you had to just wanted her to exit. But you have to deescalate.
It's like you're we heard your message. I heard your message. We're done here. Yeah. But you weren't being truthful.
Well, I was framed. I was framed. Well, no, my frame up was with respect to her relationship to her God.
Yes. But yes, but it was the last bit. It was the last bit. I see I needed to put closure on this and get rid of her because she was going to continue to escalate it.
So you had to agree with her in order to dispel this. I had to get her to agree three times with me.
Right. She agreed three times, which it would be very difficult for her to disagree with me the fourth time. Yes.
Well, you've put a cap on it, haven't you? So I had her agree with me three times. You've pulled all the power out of her.
So I got her to agree. This is just martial arts. You just got to keep them off balance.
The last thing in the world she expected was me to agree with her. Yes. And affirm that her God is in approval with her actions, which is what you don't believe because he's not.
He actually doesn't care because there's no such God as that anyway. But you know, at this point, I knew this lady for like, you know, three minutes or something.
So it's like, I'm not going to be a psychoanalyzer. Well, no, you have to. Well, no. Yeah, exactly. But you have a job to do, and that's keep your family safe.
Right. And you fed her. You did. That was beautiful. And then she took advantage of your good nature. And part of the reason she did that, she's on a very, very low vibration.
That's part of the reason she's wandering around the streets homeless. She's not going to have anything in life which represents peace, joy, laughter,
because she is on a mission now to proselytize her anger on behalf of a fictitious God that she believes is real.
And her life is a very, very low, debase existence. And I think you showed her compassion. You disarmed her beautifully.
I would I I'm going to learn from that, because I know how I would have reacted.
It was it was very difficult to do because I was because my mind was going like a well, you know, we have a thing, again, being a special operator in the military.
There's this concept called the fog of war. Have you ever heard of the fog? Okay.
So the fog of war means that when you have a lot of information coming at you very quickly and you don't know what's false and you don't know what's true, that it can create this fogginess.
Like if you and I. So the fogginess is the processing is the processing time.
That's your mind just evaluating everything. And there's no clarity because it's all in evaluation.
Correct. So like like if you and I were thrown into a situation, let's just say you and I were pushed out of an airplane in parachute and we fell into this village in the middle of some continent.
We would not know who's friendly, who's who's a friend, who's a foe, what's safe, what's not safe. There will be all of these unanswered questions.
And what you'd be looking to do is you'd very quickly try to ascertain where am I safe and secure.
And when you're when you're uncertain about what you can trust and what you can't trust, what's fact, what's fiction.
When you're in that that space of uncertainty, uncertainty, that is called the fog. And if it's in warfare, it's called the fog of war.
Right. Where you don't know I'm going to shoot something there. Is that a friend or a foe?
I don't know if that's I don't know what's true and I don't know what's false.
And I think a lot of Americans are in that place right now. Like in our world, we don't know what to believe and what not to believe.
But on a micro level with this homeless lady, which I think she was homeless because she wanted to be.
She was a very bright lady. And if she wanted it, if she wanted to wait tables and make cash business or something, she could do that.
But there was clearly not part of the message that she wanted to convey.
So yes, I mean, a very, very interesting encounter. I mean, life throws these at you.
You know, I've learned something. I think whenever I've argued with my husband, because we've had some really, you know, hardcore arguments over the years, I have a tendency to raise my voice.
And it's absolutely what you don't do. You have a very smooth, even voice.
And that's I think you can communicate without just getting loud because it does amplify things.
I mean, had I been a better communicator, we wouldn't have had so many arguments. And I'm much better at this now.
I mean, I've been married for 30 years, but the tendency to raise one's voice in that situation, she was doing that.
Was she calm or was she raising her voice?
Now, she was she was definitely the aggressor. Yeah, she was definitely. But but what I've learned, how did she just parted and said, oh, thank you for the pizza.
Oh, no. Well, it's all nonverbals at this point.
At this you can you can control people with your verbals and nonverbals like she's going to if there's a weak person, you can they're going to take your cues.
They're going to take your visual cues. So I walked I walked. I said I told her I said I will talk about these things over here.
And so I didn't wait for her to follow me. I walked to her stuff.
And if her stuff is the only thing she's got in the world, then I pose a risk to her stuff. Right. I like that.
So there's so this. Yeah. Plus, it's 30 feet away. So the proximity is now what you want.
So in special operations, you know, Americans and British, the Western world, there's whenever there's a conflict, people say there's offense and there's defense.
Right. And so that's a traditional way you look at a hockey team or soccer soccer team, football team.
There's offense and defense. Special operators look at things differently.
We look at things asymmetrically. It's actually called asymmetrical warfare.
But basically, you look at things differently. I look at things like counteroffense and counterdefense.
How do I if you and I are arguing or fighting, how do I defeat your ability to defend yourself?
How do I defeat your ability to wage war upon me?
So counteroffense and counterdefense are ways to defeat your enemy's ability to defend themselves or to be further aggressive, be aggressive.
So a lot of what I was doing was just trying to find ways to counter. This is interesting.
So I had a situation up on 27. There's and it's on 19 and 27.
There's some abandoned hotels and I was up there with Tony and Smokey and Ray when his wife was alive.
They were in another car and we just drove around because we were looking for space at the time.
I won't go into that, but we were looking at this abandoned hotel.
And then I drove drove around and I came back and then this car came up and it pulled in front of me.
And I knew that this guy was aggressive, but I didn't think about my reaction.
This was instinctive because one of my kids was in the car.
So I got I got out the car and then I walked towards his truck and I walked straight up to him.
And I was just very friendly. I said, oh, hi. We were and then he opened his car, but he was holding a piece of pipe.
I didn't see it at the time or it was a screwdriver or spanner or something.
He was holding it and I knew that I was in a really, really sticky situation.
But I had everyone. They were over here because I'd walked over there.
And then I just remember saying, I said, oh, hi, I said, and I said, I was looking at this hotel.
I said, we used to eat at a restaurant here. Do you know where that restaurant is?
Is it in town? And he looked at me and he thought I was there just to look for this restaurant.
And then he said something about, yeah, I think it's in town. It was an old Thai restaurant.
I said, oh, thank you. I said, we're going to head into town and find it.
Got everyone back in the car and we left.
Now, what he had done, I think he was a meth had a meth lab in one of the abandoned hotel rooms.
So he didn't know whether I was in a Cadillac. It was in my sports car.
He didn't know who I was. But then so I just used a person.
Oh, I'm just here. It was all just quirky, silly. But it just got him off guard.
He never revealed what he was holding, but I could see his arm down like that.
And he had the door as his shield and we just left.
But in that situation, I was very confident that I needed my peeps behind me.
And I needed. But I also knew that I hadn't I didn't I have no martial arts training.
So I knew this was all going to have to be verbal and I'd have to disarm him.
Let him know that I'm just a friendly tourist having an English accent helped.
I was on my way. It's very disarming.
It's like, oh, this pretty blonde, just, you know, just asking a silly question.
Yes, it worked. That's that's awesome.
So well, anyway, thank you for listening to my homeless.
You know, I've I've been I admire how you handled it.
I've interacted with so many homeless. And this is the first time it wasn't part of you pissed off.
Like you fucking bitch. I gave you some pizza and then you do me like that.
You know, 20 years ago, yes. Yeah.
You know, what I found myself doing was just blessing, just feeling sorry, just blessing her.
Because I've not walked in her shoes. Exactly.
I don't know what she's been up against.
You know, clearly she's been through some sort of abusive religious
because religions can sometimes really mess people's brains up.
Right. And so I don't know what she's been through.
I don't know what she's been through. So I have to know.
So you can't go fucking, you know, anything.
But I would there would have been an irritation in that for me.
But it would have been transitory. I would have found myself at your point
because you do have to take into consideration what are your previous lives?
What are you doing here? Is this your chosen life plan?
I have something. Maybe we can do this on the next podcast.
OK, we can lead from this into what's in a life plan.
And this is going to dovetail really nicely into what you've just talked about.
Well, I'm excited for our next podcast.
And so is there anything else you want to talk about today?
Well, I need to talk about this homeless situation in the next one,
because it will lead into what I want to just read a quote from my book.
OK, good. That's great.
Well, good for you. I think that's great. I like the way that if I travel, I want you with me.
Well, to be clear, I was armed. I might go off half cocked.
I was pretty well armed too.
Oh, that's good. I'm always armed.
Yes, I was too. Pack a Mac.
My friends always kind of make fun of me.
To me, a gun is a compliment. It's like an adjunct piece.
Like, I don't need a gun because I've got these, but I've also got this.
But I've always got something.
But when you know how to fight, this chair is a weapon.
That microphone is a weapon.
Yes, fingernails. A stiletto.
That drum kit there has got like 20 weapons on it.
I know I'm buying you for your birthday a nice knuckle duster.
You're so sweet. Anyway, thank you for joining me. I can't wait to see you again.
Lovely.
Be well.
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