1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,000 The following Earth Angel media presentation is brought to you commercial free as a gratuity from the sponsor producer named after the show. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Please consider their message. Find other high value shows listed at EarthAngelProject.com. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Enjoy the show. 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join us as we wander off the path to find the ideas that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the mind, the ego, wellness and hidden history with tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better life. 5 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Hello everybody and welcome back. This is our real, our real holiday special. My name is Dr. Tia Julie Phillips. I'm with Sarah Teary and we had a false start on our holidays. 6 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:19,000 I got sidetracked. My attention got pulled away from the bones. Mine gets pulled away from me and it's me doing it. 7 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:26,000 So you're listening to Soul Decodes. If you want to listen to us on different, different places, you can go to souldecodes.com. 8 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:34,000 There's a menu item that says listen and you can find out all the places you can hear our show. But Sarah, welcome back and it's getting to be an exciting time. 9 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Yes, I love it. The holidays are here. The holidays are here. What does that mean to you? 10 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:56,000 I'm not sure what it means. I have some ideas. So I'll start. Yes, for me, it induces a very childlike state. It's excitement, expectation. I'm quite a materialist, so I love giving gifts and receiving gifts. 11 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:05,000 I'm a hedonist, so having too much sherry at Christmas is very appealing. I love Christmas trees and Christmas lights. I could stare at a Christmas tree, a well decorated Christmas tree for an hour. 12 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:14,000 I love holiday music. It's just this massive childlike experience I get year after year and I'm 57 and it started in my childhood. 13 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:22,000 So one of the things I've written some notes. So Christmas is loved as a result of cultural conditioning. 14 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,000 So I've been conditioned to feel like this as a result of what I was told about Christmas as a kid. 15 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:37,000 And it was all it was better everything than normal, better food, better TV shows. You got time away from school. You got gifts. 16 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Everyone was in a good mood and that was what my experience was. And then on top of that, we have this fantasy of Santa Claus. 17 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:57,000 And it was funny because I was at your house last weekend and Robin and I were talking about Santa Claus and how my eldest son was 12 when he first realized it wasn't real, which was pretty old. 18 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:08,000 And I had this big thing about wanting him to experience Santa Claus as being real. Now, I just went along with that because I thought that's what I wanted to do. 19 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:17,000 But it's kind of fucked up in a way because you're asking the child to believe in something and then you put the brakes or they find out from their classmates and then they question you. 20 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Is Santa Claus real? No, darling, he's a hoax, but I thought it was fun for 12 years. But then you've lied to your child. 21 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 And we've done the same thing with the Easter bunny. What's this whole thing about the Easter bunny? 22 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,000 We have the crucifixion of Jesus and then we're celebrating his exit from this world. 23 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:43,000 But we've now got this Easter bunny, which is apparently from a German tradition of a hare that can lay eggs. Well, hares are like rabbits. I have some rabbits. They don't lay eggs. 24 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:52,000 So why are we blending like really weird fantasy into Christmas when we have the religious aspect of Christmas? 25 00:03:52,000 --> 00:04:01,000 The religious aspect is that Jesus died for our sins. And so, hmm, Mithramis. Let me just read this out because this was interesting. 26 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,000 It's just a little paragraph. This is taken from my book, Is This the Best God Could Do? 27 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:14,000 I enjoy the traditions, decorations and the social aspect of the holiday, but I don't participate in the religious aspects. Read from Is This the Best God Could Do? 28 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Now, in that, it was Mary Mithramis because Christianity is a copycat religion in that it has come from older religions. 29 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:33,000 So this was Mithra's birthday and we decided in 325 that Christmas was going to be on the 25th of December. And that was around the time of Constantine. 30 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:39,000 So look at Is This the Best God Could Do? And go to what I talk about Christianity being the copycat religion. 31 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Now, I'm not going to go off at this tangent. I'll just save that. But this is to do with I think that's what all religions do. 32 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:52,000 So we've got this massive blend of lies, what we're told to believe and this religious conditioning. 33 00:04:52,000 --> 00:05:02,000 And it's all kind of blurred into one. And I can't really make sense of Christmas, although I love it and I participated. I think it's all slightly weird. 34 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:10,000 So for those of you listening, Sarah's mentioned a couple things. Like you mentioned, Is This the Best God Could Do? 35 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:20,000 For some listeners, that might be the first time they're hearing that reference. But tell us what is that reference? Is this the best God could do? What is it? 36 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:27,000 So Is This the Best God Could Do is a polemic and I pull apart in 20 chapters the idea of God being separate. 37 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 This is a book that you wrote? 38 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,000 This is a book that I wrote. Is This the Best God Could Do? And I asked that and I said this to God because I looked at the world. 39 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:41,000 And I think I've read the back cover out. I could do that again. But it basically I say on that. Is this the best you could do? 40 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,000 And I questioned God like, fuck this shit. This planet is a joke. Is this the best you could do? 41 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:55,000 So that was the premise of the entire book. And you wouldn't actually have to read the book. Just understand that I completely contest the idea that God is who we've been told he is. 42 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:05,000 And I explained that in 20 chapters. So one of the chapters that I'm talking about, it was how Christianity has taken old religions and just revamped it. 43 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:11,000 And just taken old observances and practices and pulled them into a new canon of beliefs. 44 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,000 And I'm actually okay with that because I think I want to create a religion. We've talked about that. I want to start a religion. 45 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:23,000 I think it's getting old ideas, the best of the old ideas, and then bringing new ideas in from the quantum sciences. 46 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,000 So I'm fine with that. I wasn't fine when I wrote it, but this whole copycat policy, I'm okay with it now. 47 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:38,000 So but Christmas is it was used by many cultures prior to Christians using it. It's not Jesus' birthday. It was Mithra's birthday. 48 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Also we're told, but it could have been someone else's birthday. 49 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,000 So for those of you who want to push back on that, please do so. But do it from a position of respect and also your own research. 50 00:06:47,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Because when you look at all of the different traditions of how many times there was a story of a virgin birth about a God that's got three figures, three aspects to God. 51 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Loads of saviors prior to Jesus. Loads of saviour cults. 52 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Dozens of saviours. So these stories have been told and retold and repackaged for really millennia, as far back as we can go. 53 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:20,000 As far back as we know. Longer. It's just repackaged and repackaged. And so really the question we have to face is what does this mean to us? 54 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,000 How do we take the best of what's presented to us and make it better? 55 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Yes. So pluck a pluck older, solid, loving ideas, incorporate them into a new religion, but then update the ideas as well. 56 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 And get rid of anything that's second rate. There's a lot of second rate horror show for me in the Bible. 57 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:47,000 So let me just interject real quick because when somebody says the word religion, I'm sorry, but my skin. 58 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Yeah, you gank. My skin crawls. My skin crawls. 59 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,000 There's so many wars are fought because their God's more important than your God. 60 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Well, that's because, yes, but that's because people have downgraded God. 61 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 If you upgrade God, religion can be useful to people. 62 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:09,000 And the way that I would like to create a religion is a place that people can physically go to understand how their minds work and then understand spirituality from a higher perspective. 63 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Understand that their God's in the making, that God is not separate. 64 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,000 So I would have churches where they can read books. You can learn to meditate. 65 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:23,000 You can have all sorts of massages, whatever you want that nurtures your spirituality. 66 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,000 So my church wouldn't be like a pious place that you will go to and, you know, confess your sins. 67 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 I don't even believe in the concept of sin. 68 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:36,000 So I believe I believe what you're saying is that religions have such a bad rap, but it doesn't have to stay like that. 69 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 You can have a good religion that's really useful to your spiritual growth. 70 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,000 You'll be centering that religion, you, there's not an outside God. 71 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 I do see religions as I do believe that they have an important function. 72 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Like if you have no belief system, you have nothing to hold you like. 73 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:58,000 It's like basic training. 74 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Religions are basic training for your soul. 75 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,000 But what about the community of going to church and be around other soul seekers? 76 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:15,000 And that's fine. But I'm saying if somebody has like they need a jumpstart on belief systems or asking questions or what or even the basic community. 77 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Like if you go to a church, especially nowadays, the vast majority of the time, it's just an experience. 78 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 There's really nothing deep and soulful. 79 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 No, it's just a social experience. 80 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 What you apply to it now that could be the lovely, holy music. 81 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 It could be the choir. It could be the stained glass windows. 82 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:37,000 It could be the Holy Spirit coming and finding peace with it, with you within that building. 83 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,000 So there's aspects that you can create yourself by being in a very holy environment. 84 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 The church that I was in last week, I went to a funeral, it's a thousand years old, this church. 85 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,000 And I had this peace and holiness going on. 86 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 It was a different level. 87 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 And it was some I don't know whether it's a thousand year old church. 88 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 So you've got all the energy of people have been going there century after century. 89 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 But there's something quite holy that wasn't available outside that church. 90 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 It wasn't out in the parking lot. It was inside. 91 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 So again, we're going to go into this in another episode. 92 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:18,000 But I've really been talking a lot about our ancient history that's lost, about tartaria, about frequencies. 93 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:24,000 But when you look at the stained glass windows of those ancient churches, you look at the shapes and the... 94 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:33,000 When you look at the diagram of the circle of the stained glass windows, and then you make holy frequencies, 95 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,000 you take sacred frequencies on water, they make the same pattern. 96 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 That's right. We've talked about this. That was an interesting one. 97 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:48,000 So when you look at those patterns, they actually represent much more to you. 98 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,000 We tend to do religion up in our brain, up in our cerebrum here. 99 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 We think of it in terms of our linear experience. 100 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,000 What are we thinking? What are we perceiving in this three dimensional body, this avatar? 101 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:11,000 But I'm going to say that the actual experience, that deep spiritual experience is way deeper than just your brain. 102 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:18,000 It's a connectedness to the fluid of your body, to your DNA. 103 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 It's not something you cerebralize. It's not something you think about. 104 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Five senses. 105 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 It's actually something you experience. 106 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 That's what it was. It was an experience in there. 107 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,000 So I want to take you off track, but I think that this discussion of what churches are, 108 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 the frequencies of the bells that were rung, those frequencies are healing frequencies. 109 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I'd have bells. 110 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,000 I want bells back. Bring back the bells. 111 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 All of that's coming back. 112 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,000 And the sacred geometry and the stained glass, it would have a very, very old reverential feel to it, 113 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 but it needs to nurture. It has to nourish the people going to there. 114 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,000 And if I were to create a religion, I'm still planning on doing this. 115 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 It's in its loose stages, but I think it's a good idea. 116 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,000 I would just take the aspects, the best aspects from all world religions and not leave any out. 117 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:12,000 So we can do Islam, we can do Christianity, we can do Judaism, we can do Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, 118 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 we can do all the Native American traditions. 119 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Atheism. 120 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Yeah, atheism, just not a secular perspective. 121 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Humanism. 122 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Yeah, and just bring all these ideas together. And it's not your ideas wrong. 123 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,000 It's an amalgamation of good ideas and flush out the crappy ideas. 124 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,000 And so the church would represent a whole body of thought throughout history 125 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 and bringing in the quantum sciences in. 126 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 It's very important that we merge spirituality with science 127 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 and we're understanding that we're to some degree we're in a matrix here. 128 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 I like it. I want to go to the church. 129 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 You can definitely come. 130 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 So I went to a church when I was in West Palm Beach. 131 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 It was a universal Unitarian church. 132 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,000 And the people there were beautiful, but they biased themselves. 133 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,000 They fancied themselves on being open and accepting to all people of all faiths and all this stuff, 134 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 which is great on paper, but when you get there, 135 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,000 and if you didn't buy into their narrative, which by then was very political, 136 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 they may have changed by now, but when I went there it was very political. 137 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,000 If you didn't vote for their political candidate, then you're kind of an outcast. 138 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 So it's like, well, wait a minute. 139 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Yeah, you're not embodying what you're telling us we should be. 140 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Are you open to people who don't believe your way? 141 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Or is this like a club? Is this a cult? 142 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Yes. 143 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 So I like your church better. I totally want to help you do that. 144 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 OK, good. 145 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Yeah, this is great. 146 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 So after we finish the Christmas episode, we'll go on to do the New Year's episode. 147 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 We'll talk about this. 148 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 You have a bunch of bullet points. 149 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 At some point I've got a little gift for you. 150 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Oh, have you? I love the packaging. 151 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Let me just give this to you. 152 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 I like to support local business. 153 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 And this is a girlfriend of mine. 154 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 There's just a little something for you. 155 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 There's a lump of coal in it. 156 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 I love the little pocket. 157 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 I don't look at it as a lump of coal. 158 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,000 I look at it as a pre-diamond. 159 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 So it's just a little something. 160 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 I just like to support local business. 161 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 What is it? 162 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Her business card's in there. 163 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 What is this? A room spell? 164 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Oh, you have to read the label and stuff. 165 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 I haven't got my glasses on. 166 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Oh, it's oil. 167 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,000 It's an insecticide. Don't breathe it. 168 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Don't breathe it. 169 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,000 What a witch. 170 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Lovely. Thank you. 171 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,000 If I collapse, I'll tell you about my stash of money, isn't it? 172 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Go and get it. 173 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Sarah, if I don't bust on you, who's going to? 174 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,000 That's beautiful. It's very lovely smelling. 175 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 It's going to work on your cannabinoid system. 176 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 There's some... 177 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 It's got some eucalyptus and lavender. 178 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,000 You can read the label. 179 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,000 It's lovely. 180 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,000 It's very nice. It feels very silky. 181 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,000 And also, before we leave, on my back porch, I've got a whole bunch of plants. 182 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 You wanted some of those plants that climb up the trees? 183 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Yes, the vines. 184 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 The monstera? 185 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 I've got like seven or eight different varieties. 186 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Oh, lovely. I want to plant them up my oak tree. 187 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,000 I want to propagate. If you pick one of them... 188 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 I mean, there's a few of them are ready to go. I can give them right now. 189 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Can I just stick them straight into the ground? 190 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Yeah, I'd probably wait until after the... make sure there's no frost. 191 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 So just keep them in water, keep their roots. 192 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Barely even water. They require almost nothing. 193 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Just like me. 194 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Just like me too. 195 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Yeah, like you don't need nothing, right? 196 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,000 So, but just go whenever you pick one or two, pick some of your favorites. 197 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Oh, thank you. 198 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 And then those just start growing up your tree as they'll be beautiful. 199 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,000 And then every Christmas, I'd think, you know, that's about three feet bigger. 200 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Oh, no, it's going to grow faster than the tree. 201 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 I've seen them on Lakeshore, really. 202 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Oh, these things grow fast. 203 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Oh, yeah, because the oak tree is very slow to grow. 204 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 I've seen them on Lakeshore Drive and they're just massive. 205 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,000 And then there's a tree called Phatsia japonica is there. 206 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,000 I guess that sounds Latin, doesn't it? 207 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 I see you in your big words. 208 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 I know. And it's just got massive gray and they're variegated, 209 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 which means they're green and white. 210 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 And they just grow up the oak trees and they're just unbelievable. 211 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Well, I don't have any of those. 212 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Isn't that what you're talking about? 213 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Well, you'll have to see. 214 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 They're called monsteras and they're the classic... the shape. 215 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 When you think of tropical vines... 216 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Yeah, that heart shape. 217 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 ... it's the tropical vine. 218 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Yeah, I think my mic... 219 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,000 It's got almost like a fig leaf shape. 220 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 I've got different shapes and sizes. 221 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Some of them have holes in them like Swiss cheese. 222 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Oh, yes. 223 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000 So this is really cool. 224 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 It's probably from the same family. 225 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 But I want you to grab the ones that really call to you. 226 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 OK. 227 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000 And I want that to be a gift too. 228 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,000 That would be nice. 229 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 And I'll film their progress. 230 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Every three months I'll take a picture. 231 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 This is when she was just a baby. 232 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 I talked to this one. It's growing more. 233 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,000 I didn't talk to that one. 234 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 I didn't give it any attention. 235 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 And it's small and withered. 236 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 And the one that I nurtured is really, really big. 237 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 I get a science experiment. 238 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 So you have a lot of bullet point. 239 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Yes, I do. 240 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 So you're always taking me off point. 241 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Yes. 242 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,000 So let me... 243 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 I owe you that. 244 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 That's good. 245 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 You owe it to me. 246 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 So this whole thing of mixing up this fantasy and reality. 247 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 And I don't understand the human need to do that. 248 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Yet I participated in doing that. 249 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Why was it important that I talked to my children about this fictitious thing called Santa Claus? 250 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 And then they're also trying to understand it through a religious perspective. 251 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:17,000 And we've got stories and fantasy amalgamated with some historical truth maybe, 252 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 but some religious connotations of what God is. 253 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 And it's just a weird blend for me. 254 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 And I don't understand why we do it. 255 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Well, I love what you're doing because you're asking questions. 256 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,000 And you keep asking me questions when I bring stuff up that's kind of out there. 257 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 You're like, why is that important? 258 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 But I think it's important that we ask those questions because 259 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:42,000 what if the things we're doing are sorcery or witchcraft? 260 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Or what if they're keeping us in this certain spot that's keeping us from developing? 261 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Like it's really important that we question these things. 262 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:58,000 So do you think it's not that great that we're bringing these horrendous fairy tales as if they're real? 263 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Now, my grandfather, when I was a kid, this was going on when I was a kid. 264 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,000 He was in his 60s at the time. 265 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 He's a very live, skinny guy. 266 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And my grandparents lived in this big old farmhouse. 267 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 And there were my cousins and my uncles and aunts. 268 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Now, they were at a similar age. 269 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 So it was like brothers and sisters. 270 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 It wasn't like aunt and niece. 271 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 So we're all these young children. 272 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 And we came outside. 273 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,000 It had been snowing. 274 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:25,000 My grandfather had climbed up on the roof and he'd left massive boot tracks going up to the chimney. 275 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 And we're all like, Jesus Christ, Santa Claus is real. 276 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 He was here last night. 277 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And we're all just talking about it. 278 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:38,000 And my grandfather is up there in the middle of the night walking on a roof to let us know that Santa Claus has arrived and gone down the chimney. 279 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 And I still can't make any sense of it. 280 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Yet I was doing the same thing. 281 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:50,000 I got rabbit poop once and I smooshed it together in my hand to make reindeer poop so I could show my kids that reindeers actually came to the house. 282 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 It's like, why am I? 283 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000 I know it's kind of messed up, isn't it? 284 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 And I look back and I'm like, what was I even thinking? 285 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Well, it's so Robin and I had... 286 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,000 It was benevolent. It was definitely love and humor and they were really into it. 287 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 But I still can't... 288 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 I'm just trying to work that out now. 289 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 What the fuck was I doing? 290 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Well, I think we do ourselves a disservice with children because I think instead of telling them what we think we know, we should be asking toddlers, two year olds, three year olds, four year olds, because there are new arrivals to this space. 291 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:28,000 We should be asking them what their experiences were, what they perceive, what they're imagining. 292 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Let them tell us. 293 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:36,000 I think we're going to get a truer sense of our world around us by asking them in their wrongness. 294 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Now, they don't have complicated ego structures. 295 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 There's no bias. 296 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Well, they're pure. 297 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:50,000 We start getting it building our egos, what made maybe age six onwards, maybe, maybe a little earlier, but that they're pure. 298 00:19:50,000 --> 00:20:00,000 So you're asking a pure soul to communicate whatever it is that they're thinking about without these ego structures that we're going to grow with. 299 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 So one of the books I've read, like it didn't have pictures, but I still read it. 300 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 And it was called Soul Survivor. 301 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Soul Survivor. 302 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 And it was appealing to me because I'm an aviator. 303 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:25,000 And this was the supposed reincarnation of a World War II pilot. And this little boy was born and he was having these tantrums in his crib and he wasn't able to speak. 304 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,000 And he was the mom was a Baptist, they were Baptist, dad, mom and dad were Baptist. 305 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 And they're like, this boy is possessed. 306 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:39,000 And they had all these, this belief system, this archetype that says this child is possessed. 307 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 There's a demon. 308 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 There's an emotional problem. 309 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,000 There's whatever he's in pain, whatever. 310 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000 I don't want to spoil the book. 311 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Actually, I will spoil the book because the book is not well written. 312 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 But the story is the story is compelling. 313 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:08,000 The punch line is this little boy grows up and what as he's learning to color, he's got his little crayons, his piece of paper and he's coloring pictures of an airplane that's crashing and the tail's on fire. 314 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000 And there's another airplane with a Japanese zero on it. 315 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:18,000 This child has never been exposed to war, never been exposed to Japanese. 316 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:26,000 They don't know what the rising sun is, but it's there's a so then as the child grows up, you know, he's in his crib. 317 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,000 And when he wakes up, he's saying things like, save little man, save little man. 318 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Right. So fine for him. 319 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:41,000 So he's he's he's come into this earth's base and he's realizing something that happened previously. 320 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 As he gets older and again, I'm skipping a bunch of stuff. 321 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Yeah, but the problem you have with this with Christianity, I always thought that I just had one life. 322 00:21:50,000 --> 00:22:02,000 If you had a belief system, the parents say if I had been my son and he was talking to me about this and all the all this stuff about a previous life, I would have actually been able to be of some help because I do believe in the 323 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 because I do believe that my children have lived prior to this lifetime and me. 324 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,000 So my belief system would have been useful to allow him to express himself. 325 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 And then you could have probably concluded with your child. 326 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,000 You're remembering something from a previous life and this is your new life. 327 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000 But when you believe that you only have one life, then the parents just going to think, well, nothing came before. 328 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 There was no previous experience. 329 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000 So they're just going to see this child is having nightmares, bringing something up from a dream state. 330 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,000 And there's no clarity about that because your belief system is so smushed down. 331 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Well, you're going to love this because the mom and the dad really had a problem with this because they were very entrenched in their religion. 332 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 But the mom said, wait a minute, there's something here. 333 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Just like you're saying, wait a minute, there's something here. 334 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:55,000 When the boy was just a very young, like three or four, I forget that it's been years since I read it, but he was very young. 335 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:07,000 His uncle took him to the museum, the Aviation Museum, and they're walking around and the curator is looking at this young boy and he's walking around a an F4U Corsair 2. 336 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 It's got the inverted golf wings. 337 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,000 It was a World War II pursuit plane, a fighter plane in World War II. 338 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:22,000 And this young boy, his name was James, walked around the airplane and did a perfect preflight. 339 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:30,000 In fact, the curator of the museum went to the uncle and said, I am so impressed you taught this young man how to do a preflight on an F4U. 340 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 This is amazing. 341 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And the uncle's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. 342 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 I get this kid just did it. 343 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:43,000 But James used to sit down in his car seat and literally pull the straps over. 344 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000 And he did like a five point check and check for his mask. 345 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,000 I mean, he was doing the muscle memory stuff in his car seat. 346 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,000 And fast forward, the there was this the dad was beside himself. 347 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 He's like, this is no way this is happening. 348 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 So he says, we're going to solve this once and for all. 349 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,000 So he took the child to a World War II like they're all 80 plus years old. 350 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Right. There's a World War II reunion like a squatter in reunion. 351 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:30,000 The boy, James walks up to one of the old ladies, recognized her, knew her name, knew her husband and recounted a time when she and her husband were out with him and his former wife. 352 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 They did a double date and he recounted with this girl the details of the date. 353 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 So these are things that I wonder what that's going to be. 354 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,000 It sounds very advanced to be able to amalgamate two lifetimes. I don't have any memory of a previous life at all. 355 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:55,000 None at all. But that's maybe that's where we're evolving into to have the ability to have memories from a previous life and then also proceed with our new life. 356 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Maybe that's a higher state of evolution that our consciousness is aspiring towards. 357 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Right. So I bring this up because we have to acknowledge that we don't know. 358 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:11,000 There's a lot more that we don't know than we do know. So we're trying to find connection. 359 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:18,000 So when you experience things like you'd said, well, why did I do this with Santa Claus? 360 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Why am I trying to perpetrate fraud upon my child? I know. 361 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Well, because that's what you're taught. Yes. It was all conditioning. 362 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,000 So instead of but that's a being taught something is up here in your cerebral brain, your monkey brain. Yeah. 363 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000 That's being taught something. Yeah. It was brainwashing. 364 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,000 We have to get away from that into the place where we're communicating with our hearts. Right. 365 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:45,000 So so what I'm saying is when we listen to these young children, they're pure and they're coming from a heart position. 366 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:54,000 They're here. They're brand new arrivals. They're here because they maybe they're brand new souls, but maybe they're coming back to teach us things. 367 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,000 So why would we teach them? Why would we teach them messed up? Why would we teach them jacked up stuff about? 368 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Yeah. Why do we take this stuff and Easter bunny that now we do? 369 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,000 And what do we do? But I but I but I look back with fondness. 370 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,000 I look back and it was beautiful and there were beautiful connected moments. 371 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,000 We're all living in this fantasy realm. So it's nothing I don't regret it. 372 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,000 But I just puzzled me. And more so recently, this Christmas, I've just reevaluating all this. 373 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,000 So I don't know. I think what you and I should do, we'll have to think about this as a concept. 374 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Maybe we should interview some young children whose parents are willing to perhaps. 375 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:40,000 I mean, if they believe that they the children have lived before or they've lived before, maybe maybe I think that would be really, really nice to have have and have it filmed. 376 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 And what what can they remember of their previous lives? 377 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:49,000 I mean, had you been able to ask me at age five, suppose my mom had come to me and said, Sarah, do you remember anything from your previous life? 378 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000 I might have been able to. But I wasn't given that construct, that reality. 379 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,000 So anything that I did remember was kind of just just wasted away. And then my ego structure started taking place. 380 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:07,000 And but I don't know. I think that I think that we should start talking to our children from the premise that maybe they do have experiences they want to share, 381 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 which is a residual memory from a previous experience. 382 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:16,000 And maybe that can tie into the life that they're choosing now and then have a conversation about a much bigger reality. 383 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Well, that's what you just shared is central to my Earth Angel Academy concept, where as early as we can possibly determine the child's basic core skills or interests, 384 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:52,000 avocation, even even at a young age, that we begin to identify that nurture that not just in some sort of a Montessori method, but Montessori times one hundred where if somebody say got a proclivity towards singing as a vocalist or as a piano player, 385 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:03,000 that we take a very well established player or vocalist and let them kind of coalesce. Pick out early what's the natural inclination. 386 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:10,000 We can get them a jumpstart into the areas that they have not only an interest, but also skills. 387 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:21,000 And it brings them joy because for me personally, when I look back at my very first memories, I knew I was going to fly something. 388 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:32,000 I knew I was a flyer, an aviator of some kind. But I was also very interested in I found myself drawing geometric images all the time. 389 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Like when you if I had my notes from when I was my youngest memories, I was doodles. I was my doodles were all geometric images. Interesting. 390 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Were they placed in patterns? Yes. Yeah. All like everything I drew was patterns there and I would literally even I would color them and I would like if I made a star within a circle or made a square within a I would just do. 391 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:04,000 And I remember doing layers of squares and when you enter my my house, you see that flower that's called the flower of life. 392 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:15,000 So as soon as you enter by but it's all it's got all sorts of rainbow colors and stuff. But those types of geometries, I used to do those all the time. 393 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,000 I wonder what your job in a previous life might have been some architect. I have no idea. Interesting though. We need to get you regressed. 394 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:28,000 I would love to do that. So we did some regression therapy. You'll have to be there with me because you'll have to bring me out of it if I'm starting to get distressed. 395 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:39,000 I started like shooting people or something. But even when I went through commando school, I was amazed at the skills I had that I was never taught. 396 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Yeah. Like tracking or disappearing where people would let like if the aggressors were hunting us, they were the aggressors are trying to find us where they would literally almost step on me and still not see me. 397 00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Right. So there are certain skills that you can have from and it makes sense, doesn't it? Why does a child have where? Where did that come from? Where's the bigger picture here? 398 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Yeah. So there's I think there's some intuitions. So this is again, we never know where these conversations go, but you still have some bullet points. Yes. 399 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:20,000 And I have a couple of things I want to cover to you. Right. OK. So on the outset of this conversation on the first one, which we didn't get to this one, but on this one as well. 400 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Well, what does Christmas mean to me? I'm not going to go to drones, baby. So Christmas, I was very fortunate, my husband and I, because we had plenty of funds. 401 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:40,000 So we could always spoil the children and get whatever we wanted. But there is this horrible pressure on this. We got to buy this, buy that. 402 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Now, children, they want what their other kids at school have. And they can mean children get kind of resentful if they're not given what it is that they think they want. So there's a horrible pressure on parents to buy and give. 403 00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:00,000 And that must be awful if you don't have the money to do it. Right. You can maybe afford a twenty dollar gift and you may be able to have enough money for a turkey. 404 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:10,000 But if you don't have enough money, then Christmas in America could be quite depressing time of year because you feel that you have to spend a lot of money, perhaps go into debt. 405 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:19,000 And that kind of sucks. So that's a feeling I have about Christmas. It doesn't. I mean, although I celebrate every year and I love it, there is there is a darker side to it. 406 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:31,000 I agree with you. If there's one negative side I feel towards the holidays in general. And it's not just Christmas. It's Valentine's Day. If you don't buy this piece of jewelry, then you're a piece of shit. 407 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:42,000 What kind of boyfriend are you? Right. And it's the whole commercialism. It's just consumerism driven. If you love your graduate, you buy them a car. 408 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:53,000 And your children want this. They love it. And you know, you're kind of forced, compelled. That's kind of you're pulled into that. And I think that's kind of sad for people. 409 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:03,000 So let's let's bridge this into the idea of gift giving, because Robin and I talk about this a lot. There's different languages of love. And again, there's a there's a book out there. 410 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:12,000 It's really poorly written, but the idea is good. And it's called the I think the five languages love languages or something like that. But the idea is very novel. 411 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:24,000 It's that we tend to love people in the way that we want to be loved. So instance, like Robin's big she loves giving little gifts. She's she makes the reference to these penguins. 412 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:35,000 The penguins like if I if you're a penguin, I'm a penguin and I love you, I'm going to bring you a pebble. They bring you a like a shiny pebble. Yeah, that's very cute. So Robin and I we talk about pebbles. 413 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Yes. And when we talk about pebbles, we're talking about just tiny little gifts, little just little things you can do for other people like they not do for them but give them. Yes. Now I'm a doer. 414 00:32:46,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Yeah, this girl that was in the accident we talked about. She was t boned and just like November 13 or something. She's she expressed to me she's out of the hospital now she's got a whole bunch of broken bones and ribs and clavicle and all this. 415 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:17,000 She expressed that her house plants are her old house. It's downtown Orlando and she now lives up in north of towards the villages. It's an hour away. She has no way to get her plants. They're going to die. She loves her plants. So you're going to get them for her. 416 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:31,000 I'm going to go I'm going to saddle up, take the trailer, go get her plants. Tell her her tenant. Hey, help me load these up. I'm going to pull all of her plants and go take them to her. Why? Because that service gift. It's a gift. 417 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:43,000 She's she already told me she's why I'm going to pay you. Well, the gift is the preservation of plants. She says well I'm going to pay you. I'm like no you're not because if you pay me. It's not a gift. Yes, it's not a good arrangement then isn't it. 418 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:55,000 If you want to do something pay it forward. Get yourself healthy. Get yourself powerful. Become vibrant and then do something amazing for somebody. And then take some cuttings of the plants and give the cuttings. Pay it forward. 419 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:25,000 And we need to. So my world is a gift of service. Also there's touch. Like you're not a big touchy person. Like you said you're not going to hug me. Okay, I'm a big hugger. I always I ask permission first. But if somebody wants a hug or needs a hug. I just give it to them. I can give a hug. I was raised British and there was not there was much there's a barrier. But I don't know whether that's conditioning. But I can give a hug and I do. But it's not it's not a greeting for me necessarily. Yeah, so there's but I know which one's 420 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:54,000 like when I go to a networking meeting the people who they speak the language of love and hugs. They come right to me and they collect their hug. Right. And it's just there it is. Yeah. So there's other ways to there's there's words of affirmation. Right. That's important. There's some people who live for those. Maybe it's a bit of everything though. That would be amazing. But I just love your body. You know, you write all those words those positive. I love your smile. You're so beautiful. And those positive words are very important. Some people. 421 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:16,000 So and then the experience is like just having a good experience together. We stopped when the children were you know in their early teens. We we pretty much stopped the gift giving. We wanted to kind of break that cycle of giving gifts. So we decided we give them a choice. Do you want a gift or do you want an experience? 422 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Ah, interesting. So we started gifting them. Did they say to you what is the experience? Did they try and rationalize it before accepting? I don't remember because it's been like more than 20 years. I'd go for the experience because that's very adventurous. But it was surprisingly they all went for the experiences always. And our idea was. And what would that mean like a day out hiking or something or doing going somewhere they haven't been before just anything that was novel? Well, I mean, an example we take them to the you're familiar with the Rockettes. 423 00:35:46,000 --> 00:36:08,000 The the the on Broadway they would have these the the New York. I'm so the Rockettes. They're the ones that have legs like yours and they do the dancing and the high kicks and it's all a musical and it's Christmas and it's like a Broadway show. It's the the Radio City Rockettes. 424 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:25,000 And they would they would tour to major cities. We go see them. But also we go see like the musicals like West Side Story or we take them to see Wicked like all of these broad. But it was these experiences and they don't remember the cheap plastic toys. They don't remember the. 425 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:43,000 They don't remember the toys. They remember the experiences and going out to dinner after or going to lunch before and having these novel conversations. Do you remember how that costs money? So you're still giving a gift, but you're buying an experience other than an Xbox or some plastic crap. 426 00:36:43,000 --> 00:37:00,000 And now we're to the point now where the kids are out of state. The grandkids are out of state. So it's about us going and creating experiences. So maybe we we rent some bikes and bike through the Garden of the Gods or with grace and we're thinking about picking them up and going to Alaska. 427 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Are you so we're going to love that. I bet you he'd love that. How old is he? 23? He's 25. 25. That would be great. These are things. Yeah, it's not really up to us. It's up to them because we put what's kind of what's kind of orchestrated. It's kind of both. Yes. But once they're not going to say no to that once they buy into if he says no, I'll go to Alaska with you and Robin. I'm going to tell him that. Yeah. 428 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:38,000 We're going to Alaska. He could spend Christmas with Tony. Grace, you'll have a really strange experience. What inspired me was back when I was a captain for JetBlue. I would go to places like Aruba. 429 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:56,000 And these these people would be there. The 65 74 70 year old retirees, the business owners, and I would talk to them and they would just go to Aruba for three or four weeks and they would tell all of their kids, their grandkids. They'd say, OK, look, y'all, we're going to be here for these dates. 430 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:12,000 If you want to come, tell us when and we'll get to the tickets. You come visit with us. If you don't, that's fine, too, because at some point there's a lot of people, they live for their kids. So you want to be available to them, but you don't want to live and surrender your life to your kids. 431 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:27,000 You want them to the best thing you can do for your kids is move on with your life to set the pattern for them to demonstrate to them that your life is yours. It's not about just having kids and then dying. Yeah, it's about having kids and then getting started. 432 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:40,000 That's right. I like that. Yeah. And model that. Yeah, totally. So I admire that guy. So I like this idea of buying an experience rather than a gift. I think it's all about. Yeah. And they will remember it. Yeah. But it's very memorable. 433 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:51,000 I've actually gone through my list here because it's come out in the further conversation of what I wanted to talk about. It was a confusion to do with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. It's a consumerism. That's that's rough. 434 00:38:51,000 --> 00:39:02,000 And but in experience, even if you don't have any money, you could just get on your hiking boots and you could go out into nature and just see what happens. You could start a bonfire, roast some hot dogs or marshmallows. 435 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:17,000 It doesn't necessarily mean experience doesn't have to cost money. You could find creative ways. I'm going to think about creative ways of having an experience without actually costing you much. Well, you mentioned coming to my home last week for the we called it the blood moon. 436 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:29,000 I got some pictures of blood moon gathering. Now the blood moon was not the full blood moon. No, it wasn't. No, but you did have to see it. I couldn't get it. I couldn't get it on my phone, though. But I could see the red in it for sure. 437 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:46,000 But we wanted to have a gathering, a pre holiday gathering between Thanksgiving and Christmas. It was kind of a lull. And the idea was just to get people together with no agenda, no gifts. The gift is actually spending time together. Good food, good conversations, little music. 438 00:39:46,000 --> 00:40:01,000 But the blood moon, when you do the research, it's a time for new beginnings. It's flushing the old and coming in with the new. That was the guide, the idea. I didn't develop that. Maybe that'll be for the next version of it. But but I want to just bridge in this. 439 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:21,000 You know, we talked about the Santa Claus thing, but let's back away from that and just talk about the overall traditions. Like, what's the value of traditions? Is there value? Because we can say, well, I want to come and make everything new and novel. But that means zero tradition. That means you're only looking forward. 440 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Yes, you need to. But if you're completely and there's a this is a really cute, a cute episode. It's a it's a movie called I think it's called Deck the Halls. It's got Danny DeVito in it and Matthew Broderick. But this this movie is scripted really well because on one hand Matthew Broderick is only looking at tradition, only looking backwards. 441 00:40:44,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Even though the kids are older, you have to wear these sweatshirts. You have to know we sit we all sit in front of the camera. This is the way we do it every year. So he's embroiled in this tradition. And Danny DeVito's his family's like, hey, it's another new year. What are we going to do? What's novel? What's new? What's different? And it's just it's the clash of new and novel versus tradition. And I think that every family has to answer that for themselves. 442 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:29,000 Robin and I really struggled with the whole Santa Claus thing because Grayson pulled this aside. I think it was probably like you said 11 or 12. And he's like, hey, so is Santa Claus real? Now you're not gonna lie to your kid if they ask you straight up. 443 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Oh, I did. Well, we were my eight year old. Yes, course he's real darling. We answered this way. We answered this way. We said Santa Claus is a personification of something deeper. And it's the spirit. That's a good. It's the spirit of giving. So Santa Claus represents represents the spirit of giving. And it's very close to St. Nicholas. And the story of St. Nicholas was one of serving the children and giving especially to the girls who didn't have a dower. 444 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:20,000 The girls who didn't have a dower back in the day, you know, if you don't have a dower, you can't get married or anything. So what he would do is he'd have them put shoes, wooden shoes out in front and he would put dower in their shoes so they can get married. So that's the story. I don't know. 445 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Yeah, I mean, it could be. We don't know. But I mean, it's quite depressing actually because I'm glad we got rid of dowries. So I think there's a we need to balance tradition with the novelty and the excitement. So there's seasons for everything. 446 00:42:37,000 --> 00:43:03,000 Gift giving. We talked about gift. You can gift events. We can do different things. We talked about gift experiences. The one thing that we haven't talked about is greetings. Like here in America, a lot of people are Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, you know, all that stuff. But that doesn't mean anything to somebody that's not Christian. Right. So we hear people say Happy Holidays. 447 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:15,000 On social media, there's all sorts of people like even it's like, Oh, Jesus is the reason for the season. Well, the reason for it's your reason for the season. But there's other people. 448 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Have different reasons. 449 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:23,000 That have different reasons. So what is your experience? Like how do you greet people during the holiday seasons? How do you greet them? 450 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Ho, ho, ho. 451 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:31,000 Or if they greet you. Okay, so that's so your commercial Santa Claus. 452 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:44,000 I would say Merry Christmas. If someone was serving me in a store, I would say Merry Christmas. I don't use the word holidays. I'm very specific. And I say Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Birthday, Happy Easter. I'd be specific. 453 00:43:44,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Yeah. And, and if you were to say that to me, if you were to say Merry Christmas to me, I would respond to you with Merry Christmas. Right. Because that's your, that's your greeting. That's your salutation to me. That's your term of love towards me. And I would say that back to you. 454 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:18,000 Now, if you said to me, Happy Kwanzaa, I would respond to you with, thank you. Happy Kwanzaa to you too. Yeah. Because that's my acknowledgement. You're giving me a beautiful greeting. I've acknowledged that that's your way of greeting me. 455 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:26,000 So I'm going to respond back. Yes, that's nice. If you just said generically, Happy Holidays, I'm going to thank you and say, thank you so much. Happy Holidays to you too. 456 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:41,000 And what would you do if someone said to you, I hate Christmas, Christmas sucks. Hello, anyway. I'd say, well, actually, I've never had that. But let's roleplay that. I would say, I would say, thank you. Happy Holidays to you. 457 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:55,000 I would say it sounds like you've had some bad experiences. Yes. Can I help you with those? No, but you asked me what I would do. I would say, gosh. Grinch. I hate Christmas. Some people are just cannot stand it. They think it's just a horrible waste of, I mean, I don't meet too many people like that. 458 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:05,000 But I have done and they can't stand it. They just see the whole thing as just a facade of bullshit. I'm actually pretty close to that. Are you? I'm pretty close to that because mostly it's the commercialism. 459 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:17,000 Yeah. And I've seen so many people break their necks because they're trying to accomplish this structure of what Christmas should be. 460 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:28,000 And they're not honoring the beautiful people around them. And they're probably not in their moment either. They're not in the awareness of just sharing a moment because they've got this to do this, to do this, to buy this, to buy. 461 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:42,000 Have to work overtime now, got to pay this credit. I mean, it's quite a big expectation, especially in America, I would say. We haven't even talked about the church aspect, but I grew up in the Ukrainian Catholic Church, which is not Roman Catholic. It's Byzantine. 462 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:52,000 So it's very Eastern Catholic, which is really close to Rome, to Orthodoxy. So I was baptized into the Orthodox Church where you stand up for three hours for the Christmas. 463 00:45:52,000 --> 00:46:01,000 Like you literally stand up with a candle and three hours. There's no kneeling. There's no sitting. You're standing up. It was brutal. 464 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:19,000 But then we moved over to my mom's church, which is Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine. And so at least we're able to sit and kneel, but it was still really long. It was tedious. Plus it was spoken in Ukrainians were like, as a kid, you're sitting there going, I'm tired. I'm hungry. 465 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,000 It's hot in here because all these damn candles. 466 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:35,000 I don't know what they're saying because they're speaking in Ukrainian. And if I start to fidget and fight, I get thumped on the head because I'm not behaving. I just fainted. I just lay down. I would have done it. 467 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:43,000 But, you know, lay down, put my head down and rest. But again, these are these are experiences that were formative to me. 468 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:56,000 And for me, I'm like, what the hell are we doing? The child, the child is more important than what is pageantry. It's pageantry. And I got to say the pageantry is beautiful. 469 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:03,000 You know, not when you're participating in it for three hours as a child. Beautiful like the garments. But that's looking in on it. 470 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:19,000 You know, but when you're a child and you're just three, four, five, six years old, you're exhausted. It is torture, especially for like a midnight mass. So to me, you know, there's there's there's the great remember the memories of, you know, the excitement of the Christmas tree. 471 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:29,000 But there's also an equal amount of what that is this all about? What is this all about? Yeah. Why am I doing here? Why do I feel so? Yes. Tired and empty. 472 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:41,000 So, but so we talked about greetings. Is there anything else about the holidays that you want to talk about? Well, I just want to close with I do love the holidays. It's my favorite time of year. 473 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:50,000 I'm anytime the first of September is a big date for me because we're in the embers. And I love that. That's when we got this run up to Christmas and my birthday is two days after Christmas. 474 00:47:50,000 --> 00:48:04,000 So that's that's there as well. So that's pretty good. And then you've got New Year's and we'll do a New Year's episode. We make a resolution. We've got a lot to talk about that. But Christmas for me is a happy commercial time and I'm good with it. 475 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:12,000 I think the special part to me about Christmas, you touched on a lot of it. I like the lights. I love I do like the like there was downtown. 476 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:23,000 We had this Christmas parade and others. I do enjoy that. I think it's important to see the community come together. Yeah. I'm not the commercial person. I do love giving little trinkets little pebbles. 477 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:36,000 But with my little big give you a little my penguin pebble. But but mostly I like the time together. I especially like the music. Yes. Now I don't like the words to the music. So given the choice. 478 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:50,000 I would like to listen to a beautiful. Have you ever listened to the pentatonix? No, I don't think so. They're on your link to their acapella. Oh, do you like acapella? Yes, I do. Oh my god. They're the greatest. 479 00:48:50,000 --> 00:49:00,000 So they're acapella their Christmas albums. Beautiful. I like the group Chicago. Oh yes. Peter. Yeah, they're they have a Christmas album. That's right. Absolutely. Yeah, his voice was amazing. 480 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Have you ever listened to the the lyrics? The lyrics of Jackson Brown? Jackson Brown. The the rebel Jesus. Oh, the rebel Jesus. Oh my goodness. I'm going to have to go online and have a look. 481 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:30,000 We'll open up the next one. All right, good. Maybe this will be a new year. Let's do the open up on New Year's. I'm not going to say the lyrics. Okay, good. Because I'm going to say the lyrics to the rebel Jesus. 482 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:41,000 And I think you're going to really love it. But the reason is I'm bringing this up is because I think the music is just amazing. I'm not big about choruses and choirs in the church and the organs and stuff. 483 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:52,000 But some of the depth of the frequencies and the songs, it's just so beautiful. But I want to turn you on to some of this really cool music that's especially the acapella Christmas stuff. 484 00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:01,000 I put my lights on my Christmas trees last night. Now I have to decorate them and I have to drink champagne and listen to Christmas music. It's really, really important. I do that. 485 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:15,000 So you probably come into this house and we just have scant decorations. There's a sedent calm here. It's a bunch of heathens. In my house it's just like massive gregarious lights. But I love it. I love decorating. 486 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:25,000 You met one of the doctors that came to my house. She was gorgeous. She's such a corporate. I went to her house and I was helping her mother with some health issues. 487 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:35,000 I walk into her house and she has, as far as you can see, these bins full of Christmas decorations. And she looks exhausted. What am I doing? 488 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:44,000 I have said that. I've decorated trees and I've crawled into bed like why am I putting myself through this? But every time I'm asking myself that I have a smile on my face. 489 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:55,000 So it's pretty cool. But I get the whole bins of everything. Tony happened to get them out of my garage yesterday. They're stacked up. One falls down and it's just like why Sarah? Why? 490 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:06,000 But there's reasons for it. I think I love it for some reason. I love it. And I do think it's just conditioning. That's just residual in me. I've been conditioned to love it. And I'm going with that. I'm not going to try and break free from it. 491 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:18,000 I think you're going to be good for Robin because both of us, this is a good episode because there's so many people, so many families struggle with this. Where do I find the balance between the tradition and what's new and novel? 492 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:28,000 As the kids get older, shouldn't Christmas change as they get older? Maybe we do gifts. Maybe we do events. So I think that, and what happens when you're empty nesters? 493 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:41,000 Christmas can change depending on what your needs are. Just revitalize it when something new is necessary. Instead of 12 days of Christmas next year, I'm going to do the 365 days of Christmas. 494 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Every day. I love that. It should be. Actually that's a great spiritual insight. Every day you could celebrate. Every day is a celebration. It's your gratitude. Great. Will you take us out? 495 00:51:51,000 --> 00:52:03,000 Anything else? No, I'm exhausted now. Oh, girlfriend. I want to, we'll do the New Year's one and then I want to talk about the, my trip to England recently. So we'll make that maybe the first week in January. 496 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:14,000 It's your show. I'm just bagging. So yeah, and I've been to England three times and I'm kind of jet lagged and I've got to go back and do my trees and I'm going to have a nap. And then I want to listen to the Christmas songs that you're going to send me the link to. 497 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:26,000 Excellent. And I had a lovely time today. It was great. Thank you, Sarah. And for those of you listening, this is Soul Decodes. Please share with other people. We're getting some good followings. We're like, love it. Like a dozen countries now. Stay with us, babies. 498 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:54,000 Stay with us, share with everyone. But most of all understand that Sarah and I love you all deeply and whatever you're going through, whether it's good or bad or if you're lonely, understand that it's a season of your life, that everything's transient and it's going to get better. And it's all about the experience. Just embrace the season. Take the goodness that it offers. If it's not a whole bunch of goodness, let's make a decision to make next year better. Let's make this the best year of your life. And it starts right now. 499 00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:02,000 Amen. I love that. That's really, really cool. Sounds good. Talk to you next week. Bye. Bye. 500 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:48,000 This episode of Soul Decodes is sponsored and produced by Live Pure. Optimize your life by taking your health to the next level. 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