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Welcome to Soul Decodes. Join us as we

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wander off the path to find the ideas that fascinate. We talk about spirituality, the mind,

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the ego, wellness and hidden history with tips, travels and tales. Charms for a better life.

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Hello world and welcome. My name is Dr. Tia Julie Phillips. I'm in my studio here at the tree house

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on Phillips Island. It sounds pretty cool and pretty terrific, but what's even more than that

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terrific is I'm with my darling dear new friend and she'll explain what that means.

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It's Sarah Teary. She's an author and philosopher and for those of you who've never met one of us

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or the other or both, I'm going to have Sarah explain to us how is it that you came, how is

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it that we came to meet? Okay. And how is it that we're in this studio right now? Well, it's very

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interesting. The universe put us together. That's how we met. But you were at a plant exchange with

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my friend Charlene and you'd given Charlene your business card and prior to that meeting she'd

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been talking about Earth Angels a week earlier and it blew her away and it blew me away and when

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she described you and how much love and energy that was exuding from you, we both knew at that

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point that this was happening for a reason. That was prior to talking to you than I talked to you

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briefly, but I knew in the first five minutes that we've known each other before and that we were

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friends and this is our first meeting in this lifetime. And I'd called you about a minor medical

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complaint and that was the reason I was put in touch with you, but this is the reason that

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we're together doing this podcast and it was great. So thank you for that. How is it that,

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like, what sense did you have like about this resonance that you feel because you and I have

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only known each other for a few months, several months, right? Yes. But what was the resonance

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that you felt because have you ever done a podcast before? Yes. That you did, that you ran it?

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I participated in it. I just bit. Yes. All right. But you've never done what we're doing,

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like create a podcast. Yes. But yes, I have created a podcast. Yes. That's online is with a friend

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of mine, Frank, and we're beginning a radio station together. Okay. Yes. So why aren't you

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helping me with some of this audio stuff? Oh, Frank did all the technical stuff. I can't do the

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technical. I'm just a writer and a philosopher. Oh yeah. I just said that. Okay. So you felt some

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sort of resonance, you know, yes. Is that something that is, is that an acquired skill or is that

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something that you think it was innate when you, like, were you born with this? I think it's a

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skill I was probably born with. It's developed over the years. I understand that people come into

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your life for a reason and I've recognized this before a few times in my life. And this was the

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same with you. Not everyone I meet, I feel the same about everything happens for a reason, of course.

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But you, this earth angel conversation we'd had. And when you actually appeared, it blew

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Charlene's mind away and it blew mine away because and then you're from Michigan. I'm from England

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and Charlene's from South Africa. And I, how did these three broads end up with a few miles from

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each other? And that in itself just blows me away. And then you're interested in the similar themes

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I'm interested in. So that was very important. So for those of you listening, this is really

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exciting because every time Sarah and I have wanted to talk about things, because we've,

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we've had coffee before and we've had lunches and gatherings before. And we, we, we get into these,

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we get really close to these really super cool conversations and we look at each other and say,

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no, no, no, that's got to be on, we got to capture that. Yeah, it's got to be on the

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side of it. It's been, it's been a bit frustrating because about so much to say, it's like,

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So much to cover. So we want to take you on a journey. This is about like a soul's journey.

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So we, we, we have this, you had, we had this concept. So we ran by some different ideas for

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what, what the name of the podcast would be and what do people want? What do they need? And

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what do we want? And what do we need in terms of getting our messages out there? So you came up

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with soul decodes. What does that even mean? What is soul decodes? Well, decoding a soul is

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analyzing what a soul could look like and the reality that the soul exists in. So you could

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say you're decoding it. It, you're unwinding a mystery because we only know what we've been told

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about the soul and that comes via religion and spiritual seeking. And it is a mystery. And I'm

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still unraveling my soul and what it means to be me. I'm further along now. I'm 57 now. When I was

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younger, I was unraveling my soul and decoding my soul. So I think it's an ongoing, ongoing eternal

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journey. What have you learned so far that my soul is magnificent? Yes, and yours and everyone

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listening to this. Okay. So take, take me on that journey now. I, I don't want to do the spoiler

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alert thing, but I've read four of your books and I just finished your, the one that you graciously

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gifted me. The star side prophecy. Yes. And you'll be part of book three, by the way. Oh my God.

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Well, thank you. You're welcome. So, but so I know you've revealed a little bit in, in your books.

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But what, without spoiling the books themselves, what can you reveal about yourself in terms of the

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actual things you've learned about the human condition about, like, it's been my position that

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we didn't accidentally happen upon this earth space. Like we're, we're here with some sort of an

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intention, whether it's, we'll cover the options shortly. But I know that we're here for a reason,

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and I think everybody has to ask that question of themselves at some point. Who am I and why am I

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here? What are some of the things you've learned in your, you don't look 57, you look amazing.

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Oh, well, thank you. That's very, that's very flattering. I've learned that we're creating our

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reality. This is not coming at us. We're creating reality with our thoughts. The low grade thoughts

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that we have in our mind means we're running on a low vibration and we will attract low grade

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scenarios back into our reality. The moment you inspect your mind, control your thoughts,

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think loving, gracious, kind thoughts, your external reality will reflect that. So we're in

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control of our reality, participating in it and directing it. That is the biggest thing I've

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learned to date. Loads of other lessons along the way, but that would be the big one. I have all

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power and I'm creating this. It's not coming from anywhere outside of me. So I'm God in that, in

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that. And that sounds, you can get in a lot of trouble for saying that, but each of us is an

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aspect of God creating in what I refer to in one of my books as a matrix of sorts, a quantum

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reality, where outer reality is corresponding to an inner vibration. Very, very powerful. Because

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no one else is to blame for any of your suffering other than yourself. And that's a very important

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point, very important for me because I used to be like a victim. I blame people for my things that

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went wrong. And I realized this was all me. Very liberating. Well, I'm glad you're liberated.

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But because you can't set others free until you set yourself free. So that's why I learned.

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The truth will set you free. That's biblical, I think. And it's, yeah, it's that and more.

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Sometimes they have people that ask the questions like, if there's a God, why would a school bus

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drive off a cliff and kill all these innocent children? You know, those are difficult questions

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have to be addressed, though. But we have to come to terms with those. Because it makes some

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maybe it's drive some people into their, into their spiritual selves to try to seek understanding.

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At the same time, it's going to drive other people away from God, like away from spirit,

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away from that examination. They're going to say, there's no way that these bad evil things can

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happen in the world. This is evidence that there's no God. Yes, my brothers like that. Okay, so,

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so can you cover the spectrum a little bit like you've in your years, you've met people all across

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the spectrum? Can you perhaps I should say something about my background a little bit? So what I was

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going to say is, you know, you're you're clearly you're here in this place and time with all these

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wonderful insights. How did you get here? Well, I'm a very old soul. I've had literally thousands of

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life. This is not my first rodeo. So that is calibrated in my consciousness prior to being born.

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And in this lifetime, I was a flight attendant for seven years. And I traveled the globe long

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haul. And that exposed me to situations on this planet. And it's a shit show. What's going out

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there on planet Earth? I mean, I know that you've been to Africa quite a bit. And I've been there

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to an India and I was 21 when I went and I couldn't believe the amount of suffering. And I still have

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a little PTSD from those experiences. So I fully understand when people think how God, how could

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a God create any of this? Because you and I aren't suffering. We're here in beautiful Phillips Island,

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living our dream, right? But there's so many people not far from here who are not doing that.

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Part of the reason that they're suffering on this planet is because we don't understand God or the

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intentions of what God is. And religion has to some degree subverted us from that. So suffering is

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apparently, and I don't think this is permanent, but apparently a necessary

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affliction in order for us to wake up to the fact that we're dictating it all with our thoughts.

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The suffering that's happened in my life, and we can get into that later on,

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they were the moments of absolute clarity where I woke up, where I knew I was running the show.

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So would it be fair to say that one of our common goals with this Soul Decodes project?

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Decoding God.

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It is really for not only to decode what's going on within ourselves, but also maybe to share our

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experiences and insights. And maybe down the road, even have people contact us with theirs

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so we can kind of have that discussion too.

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Beautiful.

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But ultimately, what would you say would be a desired outcome of this project?

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Humanities project, the desired outcome is heaven on earth, human flourishing for everyone.

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That's the trajectory, that's the world I want to live in, and that's what I want to help

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participate in and create. My personal project is writing about my experiences and my findings

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as a philosopher.

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So I interrupt you to go a little bit. I want to go back to the, you were telling him about your

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history. You mentioned Flight Attendant and Seeing the World. You talked about...

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Seeing suffering.

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Seeing suffering, because I'm like you, because I had been to, by the time I was 27 years old,

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I had been to like 50 countries.

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So I get it.

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Yeah.

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And it wasn't good.

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You and me both.

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They were not the garden spots.

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No, I know.

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No, absolutely.

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But tell me more about those experiences, because I'm interested in how you came to be,

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who you are today.

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Well, the experiences I had as a Flight Attendant, I flew out of London on the 747,

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and prior to getting the 400 in the series, we had the 200, and we had to stop in India

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to get to Hong Kong. So I found myself in what was Bombay at the time. It's Mumbai now.

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I don't think it's changed since then. And when you have an airport, obviously the airport has

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to be out in the boondocks, and it has to be a far away from the city. So there's always quite

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a drive, like an hour and a half's drive. And that's when you're taken through the ghettos,

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basically. So I'd come from England, middle class upbringing, been to the continent a

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few times, no real suffering, psychological suffering in my house, but I hadn't seen that

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type of suffering. And it was absolute squalor and people's living conditions. I wouldn't treat my

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dog like that. And that marked me, because it's the first time I saw the suffering. Now, back in

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the 80s, when late 80s, when I was flying, we didn't have the internet. You couldn't just go online

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and look up a video of what it's like in downtown Calcutta. You either had to experience it or read

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about it in Cyclopædia Bractanica. But seeing that firsthand, and everything that I was doing,

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I was staying in five-star hotels, paying loads of money, shopping. So the contrast was great

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compared to this beautiful hotel that I stayed in, which was the Oberoi, compared to the average

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suffering. So me being introduced to the planet like you, and I didn't know this at the time,

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that was a stepping stone for me to question God. And the first book I wrote was called

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Is This the Best God Could Do? Because I'd like, fuck this shit. Who is God? And what the fuck's

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going on here? Excuse my language. But that's how I felt. And it was seeing the suffering firsthand

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that catapulted me sitting here today. So I don't want you to ruin the book. But why would...

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If you can give me the character of the book without spoiling it. But just if you give me

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some of the flavors, I've already read it. But just from your perspective, what inspired you to

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write that book? Was it your first book? Yes. It wasn't my first book I'd written for children,

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a couple of screenplays. It's my first adult book. It was my first polemic. So it's your first adult

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book. What was your goal? What did you hope to accomplish? And did you accomplish it with the

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book? Haven't accomplished it yet because the book's not on the New York Times best-selling list.

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That's where it's going. The intention of the book was to lay out alternative ideas of who and

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what God could be. In order to do that, I had to study the monotheistic God, the God of Abraham,

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the God of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. I had to break down. And I think it was about 20

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chapters of what that God looked like and how it is an inferior way of understanding spirit and

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the nature of this reality. Okay. So you're talking to somebody who's absolutely not religious. I don't

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know the world religions. Is this a book that would be beneficial for most people like me?

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Or would I be more confused than that? Because I'm not that person that, like, I can't explain to you

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the differences between all of those religions because I don't... There's not many. Okay. There's

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tedious nitpicking of interpretual... There's tedious nitpicking and talking about this dogma

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and that dogma, but the premise is both... It is the same in all of them. It's a separate God. God is

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separate and we call them different things. It could be Yahweh, Allah, or God. But those three

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religions, I call them the big three. And the idea that God is separate is the problem. Is this the

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best God could do? Was written to address? So one of the themes in the book was this idea of

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monotheism versus polytheism. Can you explain that to a lay person? Perhaps even somebody who

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doesn't even believe in God. Can you kind of cover that? Yes. So monotheism is the belief that God

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is separate. Polytheism is the belief that there are many gods and pantheism, which is what my

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belief is that God is everything. And they're really, really important points because that will

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underpin your belief system. And we're all here creating belief system, whether we realize it

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or not. That's what we're all doing. So when you say God is everything as a pantheist, does that

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mean if I... Like I live on... Here's Phillips Island, right? It's beautiful. I go back. I have

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these turtles. I have butterflies. I have alligators. I have snakes. Those are all... The beautiful

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banana tree. That's all God. That's all the manifestation of God. God is everything. Planets,

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the universe. We don't even know who and what God is on the other side of the veil. We don't know

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anything about where we came from. Well, a lot of us, some people are now because they're having near

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death experiences and they're going to the other side and coming back. But we don't understand

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God. But whatever God is, he's created this entire universe. And I don't want to use the word here.

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You might... Because I use that word, that's just kind of more conditioning. I don't believe God is

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male or female. It's just energy. And so you can see God manifest on earth in everything. But he's

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also manifest somewhere else. And we don't know what dimension that is. But whatever the source is,

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it's unbelievable. We're in a mind-blowing reality here. And that's the premise of the

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Star Side prophecy, to understand the alternative of what God could do compared to the Christian

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version of God. Is that they were born, we get one life, and we either go to heaven or hell at the

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end of it. That's... And it's a very, very limited perspective. So that's the perspective I examined

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in Is This The Best God Could Do? And... Well, I guess you'd have to read it. I mean, it's pretty wild.

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And I don't want to throw you curveballs, but I'm just trying to understand a little bit more about

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the what's behind the book. Like I read the book and I got it. And that was good. But what's behind it.

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So the title says, Is This The Best God Could Do? But a pantheist says that everything is God. We

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are all God. So by extension, the title is effectively, Is This The Best We Can Do? Yes. Yes.

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So in my world, everybody's trying to be... Like if I look at a flower out in my garden, or

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an aloe vera plant, or a mango tree, or something, that tree is trying to be the very best it can be.

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That even the moss, the fungus, the mushrooms, everything growing on Phillips Island,

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is trying to be its very best. And it's also trying to find balance with everything around it.

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Yes. Well, it can't be its very best until it finds balance with everything around it.

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What do you mean by that? Tell me. Well, if you're going to be your very best,

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you've got to live in harmony and balance with your environment. Otherwise,

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you're not going to function at your very best. I understand that as a human being,

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and you're talking about mangoes and moss. But I would say it's the same on every level

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of the manifestation of God. So how do we find balance when we turn on the news?

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And we've got all of these messages that are coming to us, and they're filtered, they're parsed,

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whatever's on the corporate news. I don't even have a television. I don't even have cable or

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anything. Best thing you've got going for you. I don't watch it. I find it to be...

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It lowers your vibration. It doesn't serve me. It doesn't serve you. And if it doesn't serve...

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What we say it, yes. If it doesn't serve the princess, then why would I do it?

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Yeah, great. So, yeah. I think to be informed is one thing. I can be informed about what's

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going on in the news without getting emotionally sucked in to the negativity. So I can understand

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the world, but I'm dispassionate about it because I don't let the outer reality affect my inner

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vibration. That has happened to me, but I can see now that that's not good. So I choose my news

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sources, but I concentrate on making the vibration in my little bubble, Sarah's little world. That's

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the piece of the world that I have to attend to. I can't at the moment, I hope to one day,

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affect change in a great way in outer reality. If I had enough money, I would know what I would do,

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but at the moment, I can't. So I concentrate on this little bubble that I'm living in. So there's no

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point me going into some emotional crazy state because there's children starving in Yemen.

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I mean, I intend to help that situation, but I cannot lower my vibration because, and I'm not

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used to my family, to my friends, to the projects I have underway. So I agree with you. I would steer

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clear of anything that's going to lower your vibration without you being able to change it.

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I like what you said. Just creating an awareness where I'm aware that's happening,

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and I'm going to permit it to not be part of me. I actually teach that with my clients, with my

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students, when they come to me and they want, like if you're just the first person coming,

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like first person on a Monday morning or something, and we're interacting.

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First question I ask is, how did you find out about me? Second question, who are you, and why

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are you here? How do people handle that question? It's very different for most, because the first

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answer is always going to be, well, my name's, I'm Debbie, you knew that, and I'm diabetic,

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and I have 35 pounds. I have to lose off my butt, right? So, and I'll say, well, Debbie, here's good

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news. That's the easy part. And then Debbie will say, well, what are you talking about?

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And then I'll explain to her. It's like, before we get going, three things I want you to know.

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Number one, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a PhD in holistic natural health and nutrition.

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I'm going to educate you, because I look at you as a divine soul, as a beautiful spirit.

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And my goal is to help you see yourself as beautifully and as magnificently as I see you.

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Love that. That's my number one goal. So I'm not going to give you medical advice.

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You have to go to the medical clerics and the priests and priestesses associate and go to their

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doctors, go to their go to the medical doctors for that. The shamans. I'm going to speak to your soul.

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Right. So this is a connection between soul decodes and what I actually do, which is awesome.

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Yeah. So the first thing I always do is let them know to whom they're speaking. The second thing

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is I say, I'm going to encourage you to question everything. I want you to question everything

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from this point forward. You mean reality at large? Everything, everything, capital, everything.

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Yeah. Capital, not not capital E, capital, E V E R capital, everything, because it's pretty intense.

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Well, but you know, the reason I asked them the question, everything is because

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when we're children, we're told to, you know, shut up in color, stay in the lines. Cows are not purple.

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Right. Well, my cows are. I look at it's like what lines? I don't see lines, you know, so

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my, my, my world is one about creating and not being told what to do. I have one divine compass

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and I follow that. So, but the problem is we have so many, the messages in today's world are so

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incessant and we, we tend to get all up in our brain and our, I call it the monkey brain up in

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our, in our, in our call it that who calls the Buddhists monkey mind. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.

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You know more than I do, but, but I call it the monkey brain because people get all of this noise

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and what do monkeys do? They monkey around, they throw poop, they scream, they rattle cages.

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You can't even get your homework done because it's crazy because the monkeys are just being monkeys.

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Incessant, but, but you can actually train them and condition them, but you have to have the

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discipline to do that. So I teach my people that your heart is the number one brain, your heart

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is your brain. Yeah. Your soul, your gut is your intuition, the checker. So your, your heart and

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your gut have to agree. Yes. And then once they agree on something, and you can tell because you

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have that good feeling, you get goosebumps, you get these really good feelings that yes, I'm doing

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the right thing for the right reasons. Then the monkey brain falls into order and the monkey

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brain will execute. Well, you're controlling it. The monkey mind is a computer and your awareness

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controls that. It is. Most people get sucked into it. And I've spent a lot of my life embodying the

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monkey mind without even knowing that I was in it, but I was able to pull back into awareness

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and witness the monkey mind and getting the monkey mind under control, the monkey brain under the

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control is, is still a project that I'm working on doing very well on it, but it's necessary for

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everyone because there's two aspects, the heart and this computer brain that we have. So yeah, I, so

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I do ask people to question everything because there's so many things we've been told about

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ourselves and myself included. When, when I was a child, I knew I wanted to fly, fly airplanes.

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I mean, it's one of my youngest memories flying airplanes, part of your destiny. Well, it has

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to be if it's pulling you like that, there's something in a, in a, in a pre-life in the

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planning stage before this life, this was on the cards for you for some reason, you had to know how

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to fly a plane. And that's why it felt so compelling, I guess. And you're probably right. And what I

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found was, you know, my family was broke. I mean, they were, they paid their bills. I don't know

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how they did it. I honestly don't know how they did it, but they did it. But I knew that I couldn't

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afford flying airplanes like to pay for it. So I had to join the military to do it. I had so many

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people tell me, well, only one out of 40,000 people, only one out of so many number of people,

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like I went to the Air Force Academy and the people that told you that it's one out of 40,000,

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were these people close to you? Well, yeah. And that, but the thing is, I don't think they were

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bad people, but they were conditioned. Was this your mom and dad? Not so much as some other people

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close. My mom and dad, to some degree, they were, they were not cheerleaders, but they didn't discourage

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me. Right. Okay. Because they, they had seen my mother. They had seen my capacity. But they also,

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I think the reason that people tell you the limiters don't, because they don't want you to get

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disappointed. They don't want you to, so it wasn't like they're being evil or bad or bad people.

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They truly do care about you. But in, within the construct of caring for you, they sometimes,

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yes, now don't get your hopes up because I don't want you to be let down.

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quite destructive, but they don't mean to be, they think they're helping, but they're putting

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limitations on a child because you, but you didn't believe it because you did it anyway.

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But you could have believed that and thought, well, I'm never going to get into the air for,

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I mean, you could have believed that to be true and you'd become a schoolteacher or something,

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right? But something in you still felt compelled like, I'm, fuck it, I'm going to do it. Well,

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my position was, you know, when somebody's got to be there. So if, let's just say it's one out of

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4,000 people, because first thing you have to do if you're going to go to a service academy is you

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have to get the, a senatorial or a congressional invitation, right? Like you literally have to

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write a letter and like petition your congressman to interview you. And there's this whole process.

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There's this whole process, but it's true only like one out of some huge number even get to interview.

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So there's a lot of things you have to go through. But my idea was, well, if who's going to go,

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like if it's not me, who's it going to be? And what are they doing that I can't do? And how do I,

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how do I get that, how do I get that spot? Great, great advanced self questioning there.

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Well, but the thing is like, we'll talk about this in a different episode, you know,

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a different podcast, but growing up myself image of my view of myself was so poor,

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very, very, very dark. I danced with darkness almost my whole life. And in doing so,

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I had come to this, this place where it's like, why, what is this darkness? Is this something that

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I have to overcome? Is this like a challenge that's put in front of me? But what happened is it

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really worked it whittled away at my ego and myself, myself worth myself. So I instead of

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offering myself a deer just ran past your head. Just when you were saying that this deer came

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shooting out and went straight into the middle of your head. For those listening, I'm looking at

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Phillips Island in in Tia Jolie studio and this deer just when you said that, that's so funny.

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So I have to find somebody in the audience that tells me, okay, what does it mean when a deer

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runs into my ear? I know, we'll have to research that with your runs into my ear. What does that mean?

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So what I'm sharing is that like, I, I was very sad. I was a good person. Like I was a good kid.

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And I was, I was kind and peaceful. Now, I wouldn't say I was peaceful. I was very angry. But,

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but I was kind. I minded my manners. I was quiet for the most part, except for with my siblings,

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they were super loud. But the takeaway is that my, I didn't feel good about myself. And the only

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way I felt good was accomplishing things. I became an overachiever. Right. Yeah. Well, that's apparent

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from looking at your bio. It's like, Holy shit. I was like, you've had 10 lifetimes in one.

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And we're just getting started. Just warming up. Just warming up. But, but thank you for that.

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But, but I think part of my, part of my journey has been that of getting past myself,

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getting past all of the negative self-talk, getting past the idea that I'm not worth it.

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And the darkness is still there sometimes, but I've learned to dance with it. And I've said,

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it's the, it's the old song, you know, hello darkness, my old friend. Yes. Yes. I don't know if

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that's what they intended from the lyrics, but it certainly was applicable. And now I just,

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I'm, I'm to the place you can't give something that you, you can't give something that you don't

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have. I agree. So when I, when I'm working with my clients, with my, my new friends that are looking

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for help, I couldn't help them until I help myself. So I had to get to the point where if I couldn't,

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like I had to go through that depression and truthfully, although I was never quote suicidal,

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like I was never to the point where I wanted to totally off myself. I thought about it with the

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idea. I thought of it. And then I said, just wait another day, another day. And I made that another

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day decision like thousands of times. So, you know, you just wait another day and then pretty soon

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you, you grow through it or you learn to work with it. That's fantastic. So when you, how old

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were you when you started in the military? Because this is very sophisticated self-talk for one so

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young. So I knew I wanted to go to the Air Force Academy, like in seventh or eighth grade. There

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was, I was, I was a jazz trumpeter and my bass player was right behind me with the upright bass.

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And he had said that he's excited because his older brother was going to the Naval Academy,

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the US Naval Academy. And I was like, the what? I'd never heard of it because we didn't have

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internet. We didn't have exactly. We're in the dark. We're in the dark. I didn't know there was even

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a Naval Academy. So I looked at him and I said, is there one of those for the Air Force?

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He says, yeah, I'm pretty sure. So I'm like, can you ask your brother? So the bass player.

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It's so naive and sweet, isn't it? It's like, I want to know if there's one of those for the

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Air Force because I had never heard of it because I asked the counselor, they didn't know. It's like,

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yeah, I think. When you used to see planes fly around, did that fascinate you at that age?

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I grew up close to Detroit Metro Airport. And I used to lay on my lawn and look up. I was in the

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approach. Like, I don't know. So I fly right over top of me, right? But I found out about that the

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Air Force Academy existed. Like, I didn't even know it existed, but I had to do all this.

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Like, there was no internet. So I had to go and he brought me an old catalog. So I had to get a new

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catalog. So I wrote the Academy and got a new catalog sent to me. But I did all of those things

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because I was exploring. And I think that's central to what you and I are is if we have an idea that

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whether it's something we want to accomplish or something we want to do, like your idea of being a

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like, I don't want to spoil the book, but basically, you know, you were bounced around from

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from for many different conditions, like different living conditions, different

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relatives, you were just bounced around a lot. Strangers, strangers, completely strangers. But

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but ultimately that made you very strong in a way. It was very treacherous. Very treacherous. But

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ultimately, you got to a point where you saw an opportunity to fly, to be a flight attendant.

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And that like opened up your world. And then you use that to build on. But so you had to go through

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all of these things in your life to to, there were stepping stones for you to be where you are now.

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Quite right. So same thing with me. Like, when I found out there's an Academy, and then I found

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out there's this infinite number of loops, hoops that I had to jump through. Yeah, just to go to

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the Academy. I didn't go to I could imagine. I didn't even want to go to the Academy. I wanted

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to fly airplanes. Yeah. But the best way to fly airplanes was through the Academy. Well, the

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only way because you couldn't afford the fly towers. Well, I mean, it was through like, there

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was some, it's called ROTC, which is like, oh, that's right. Reserve officer. Yes, my friend's son

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went through that. Yeah. But there was a higher percentage. There's no guarantees, but there's

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a higher percentage if you went through a service Academy. In fact, when I was a senior, there was

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such a deficiency in pilots that if you were qualified to fly, but you said you didn't,

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you did not want to fly, you actually had to go talk to the Colonel, Fullberg Colonel,

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and explain yourself. Wow. So that's how much they wanted you to be flying airplanes.

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That's a lot. So I just share that with you because the, I think that if somebody's got

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something in their heart that they want to do, and you know, we're going to talk about this in

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more depth, but you know, you talk about creating your reality. Well, some of it's in your life plan,

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and you write your life plan prior to being born. And these are what comes in. So you being a pilot

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starting, I mean, you've got a lot of roles you're playing in this life, but that was on the cards.

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And any ideas that you had, it might have been talking to your friend in seventh grade,

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but it was part of your destiny. And when you deal with the concept of monotheism and having one

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life and God is separate, you never consider that you have a particular destiny. And you have

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talked about this destiny and understood an agreement, not understood an agreement, entered

375
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into an agreement with the source of what is. So a lot of our seminal experiences, good or bad,

376
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were written into our life plan. So you caught up with what was in your life plan. And that doesn't

377
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make much sense if we believe we have one life, nothing much is going on, could be a bitch, and

378
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then we die. But when we understand that we're evolving into something much larger than this one

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aspect of us, then it makes total sense to me that you caught up with what was in your life plan

380
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and flying. I mean, I have to just tell the listeners, I have a private pilot's license

381
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about 100 hours. And what it took for me to get through that, it just blew my mind. And what

382
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you've done, I mean, I have a slight inkling of what it entails. Just from this tiny experience

383
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I have, I mean, my husband's a pilot, he has about 20,000 hours, it just blows my mind what you

384
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have to do. And you're saying you were jumping through hoops, not just to be a pilot, just to

385
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get into the military. And I mean, it's unbelievable, it's a big thing that you've required of yourself.

386
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,920
It was a good experience. I was, you know, people say, well, thank you for your service.

387
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And I get humbled because it's like, I don't, I feel like I was the one being served.

388
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Oh, that's so sweet. Because the opportunity I had, the things I was able to do, we'll talk

389
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about that another time. I want to double back and actually have you speak a little bit because

390
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I want this to be valuable for listeners. But before I go there, or could we just get back to,

391
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okay, so you were talking about talking to Debbie, Debbie was this fictitious person.

392
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Okay. And the questions that you ask her, can you just tell me those again, the first one?

393
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I always ask the question. Now I'm all over the place. Okay, for those of you listening,

394
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we don't have any scripts here. We are literally freewheeling this. We've got our little

395
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tables next to us with our sips of water or coffee or energy drink. And we're just totally

396
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freewheeling this. So if there's a topic that we double back to, we'll double back on everything.

397
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We'll try to double back. We don't get it today. We'll get it on the next podcast. But we're,

398
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we're going to definitely, we want this to be an experience for you. We want this to be,

399
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,760
we're in a process of learning about each other, each other. Truly. Yeah. And I've been looking,

400
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I've been looking forward to this for months. So we're forming a friendship with everyone else

401
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,720
listening. Everyone's listening to us, building our friendship. And what's interesting is for

402
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,560
somebody listening to us right now, you would think that we've known each other since we're

403
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:36,160
girls, little girls. Well, we've known each other for centuries, millennia. But in this,

404
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,680
but what's fascinating is like, I don't think people, like listeners can comprehend that we

405
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literally just met. If you and I look at the total time that we've spent with each other,

406
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:54,960
it's probably no more than about seven hours. I think that's accurate. Yeah. And some of that

407
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,680
was with other people. That's right. In more forms. So I think just one on one. It's been probably

408
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three hours. But we can, yes, you're probably right. And we kept saying we, we've got to wait for

409
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,240
there's Mike, we need a mic. We've got to get a mic. I want to talk about this. But now right now,

410
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:13,760
so all I was sharing with, with when brand new people come in is that I want them to comprehend

411
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that I'm speaking to their souls and that their, their soul's journey is what's important to me.

412
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And if she's got 30 pounds on her butt or she's, you know, she's diabetic and she's going to lose

413
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,360
her leg or whatever, that's easy. Those things are, those things are so easy. I've got people

414
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,160
that find me that have, you know, stage four cancer and they're, they've been literally sent off to

415
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die. And those people come to me and they're scared. They're lonely. They're desperate. And

416
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:52,560
my message to them is the same as it is to you. You are powerful. You're beautiful. Your self,

417
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:59,120
our bodies, these beautiful avatars that we have, they're self regulating, they're self healing.

418
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,560
We don't need to inject ourselves with poisons. We don't need to irradiate ourselves. What we need

419
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:12,320
to do is live cleanly. What I do teach my people is, you know, when we talk about nutrition and

420
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:19,440
toxicity and things like that, we introduce our own toxicity to ourselves. Like we literally

421
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,440
introduce, we permit things to happen. So the third thing I share with people is that,

422
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:34,400
um, that they're the boss, like they're the queen or the king. So they're the sovereigns. And I

423
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:40,080
sometimes use the captain, like you're the captain of the ship. But I'm a really, really, really,

424
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,960
really good first officer. And so if you're really, really, really good first officer,

425
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:52,080
taps you on the shoulder and says, uh, captain, you're the boss, but have you considered this?

426
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Yes. You probably should think about it. Right. So I just share that because

427
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:04,400
I don't look at people's avatars. I think that their avatars, their bodies are very much a reflection

428
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:11,440
of how they view themselves and what they're, when they're internal mechanisms. Exactly. And

429
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:18,960
you know, I think of things like, uh, people who are say, anorexic or, uh, bulimic and

430
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,560
what's happening is that when they look in a mirror, they see something different than,

431
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,920
than is actually, or they look in a mirror and they want to be something different.

432
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,880
Right. So there's this, this conflict, this, this conflict, no self-acceptance. So we have to,

433
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:41,920
we have to speak to the soul. And what I was going to share is that within, when I ask, when I get

434
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:50,320
into the conversation about who are you and why are you here? And they realize that they're, they're

435
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,120
in a place. I mentioned, I forgot to mention the third thing I tell you, I tell people

436
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,760
is that I'm ordained. I'm actually ordained in divinity, but also holistic, natural healing.

437
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:11,360
And what that means is that whatever you share with me stays here. There's no judgment. There's no

438
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,080
conversation over a glass of wine with my spouse. It wouldn't even come up in this show.

439
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:26,320
It doesn't come up. It's as if you're allowed, you're permitted, a number of people that

440
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,280
once they comprehend that they're in a position where there's somebody sitting in front of them,

441
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,520
they can love them without condition. No matter what, and I tell them, no matter what you tell me,

442
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:44,000
I will never love you any less. See, that's the message we all wanted from our parents.

443
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Right. That's the message we wanted from our whole support structure growing up. Sarah,

444
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,840
no matter what you do, no matter what you say, I love you unconditionally. There's no

445
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:01,520
there's nothing you can do to change my love for you. And you want to hear that day after day

446
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,880
after day after day. And we don't, we hear the opposite sometimes. Do you think there's too much

447
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,480
of a yearning to hear that we're great day after day? Because I would say that's something that

448
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,400
you've got to tell yourself. Oh, that's the transference. I agree. And what I do, what I share

449
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,720
with them is see, because when they come to me, they're very frail. Yeah, I bet. They're,

450
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:27,920
they're self-image is bad. They're afraid. They're, so what I do is they're not dancing with darkness.

451
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:34,640
They're fully submerged into it. And so one of the things I, they oftentimes cry, like within,

452
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,080
almost all of them, like in fact, right behind my chair, behind their chair, there's Kleenex box,

453
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:45,440
because it's probably some relief associated with it's unbelievable. And when I, I will actually

454
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:51,360
stand up and go hug them. I'll say, may I hug you? And they're like crying and nodding. So I will

455
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:57,200
hug them, but I do it for 20 seconds. Like I literally, I put my left ear to their left ear,

456
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,840
and I give them a hug. I don't know if I've ever given you a 20 second hug, but I don't know if

457
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,880
I've ever let you. I'm British. I don't get too near to people. Well, the British, you ought to do

458
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,040
this. We hardly hug. Well, we're going to shake hands from a six feet distance. No, I'm going to hug

459
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,600
you today. All right, let's do it. But, but, but here's the thing. What I do is I give the,

460
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,520
a hug him. What I experienced is like when I hug them, it's usually like one potato, put two potato,

461
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,280
and they're going to try to release. Cause that's all they're restraining them to some degree.

462
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,840
Then what I do is I say, I'm going to give you a 20 second hug. I'm telling them. Yeah. And then I

463
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,640
give them a two second hug and they release. I'm like, no, no, not yet. And what I'm doing is I'm

464
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,680
literally putting my heart on top of their heart because it's my left ear to their left ear. And

465
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:48,320
I'm hugging them. And what I'm visualizing when I hug them is I visualize them as a baby, just an

466
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:57,200
infant, a little baby. And I visualize the, the amplification of the mother, the mother, the mother,

467
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:04,000
generations of mothers all the way through decades and decades and decades. I visualize that so that

468
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:13,120
when I, when I embrace them, I'm channeling those millennia of mothers that loved their, their

469
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:21,520
posterity into that moment. So when I, or didn't, or didn't, yeah, or couldn't, or couldn't, or were

470
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:27,520
helpless themselves. So what I want to do is communicate that infinite love, the ancestral,

471
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:34,720
the ancestral maternal love, into a hug. And I'm putting my heart on theirs and that heart to heart

472
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:42,720
connection. I feel them melt, literally. So they'll try to release again after about 10 seconds.

473
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:47,280
God, if someone was strained to me like that, I'd put them in a fucking choke hold. I think it would

474
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,920
be too much for me. But you've said, except for you couldn't do that with me. I couldn't with you.

475
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,920
I wouldn't even try with you. But what I find is by the 20 seconds, they, they have,

476
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,440
so if they resist at some point towards the 20, they're, they're melting after, if there's any

477
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,280
resistance. Yeah. Cause what happens is they, they, they literally, like when you envelop them in that

478
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:16,960
love that just that, and they know it's not like sexual or perverted or anything, it's just pure

479
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,680
maternal, maternal love. Like I've got you. And sometimes I'll say that. I'll actually whisper

480
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,640
to them, I've got you. And that, that's what they need. So you're basically in this wrapping

481
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:37,120
around them. You're, you're imparting your energy. And so, and they probably need it because they are,

482
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,640
you know, out of control in their lives. So you're stabilizing them to some degree.

483
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,960
And it doesn't matter if it's a guy or a girl, it doesn't matter. They, I always ask permission.

484
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,640
And they, they nod, yes. Yeah. But the experience is just stunning. And they thank me.

485
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,840
And they leave, they leave here a different person. Yes. When Charlene, we talked about

486
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,240
Charlene right at the beginning, she met you, she came here. She called me when she got home and she

487
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:10,560
couldn't believe how elevated she felt when she was driving away from here. Sadly, I can't

488
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,720
speak to whether or not that happened. Well, I'm telling you, if she shared that with you, then

489
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:20,640
you can, but I can't comment one way or the other. Yeah, that's fine. But it was, that's how she felt

490
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,960
around you. Well, that's beautiful. And the fact that she shared that with you is beautiful too.

491
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Thanks for that. So I'm going to bounce it back to you because I want to find out, you know, again,

492
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,400
I try to be very pragmatic. We've got people listening to this and they've got real world

493
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,560
challenges. Okay. So I want to ask the question, let's just, what would you,

494
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:50,480
I come from a family who has problems with alcohol, like my aunts, my uncles, my grandparents, my

495
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,880
interesting because me too. Yeah. Okay. So, so let's just have this conversation, whether it's

496
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,240
alcohol or drugs or could be shopping, it could be gambling, any sort of compulsive type of things

497
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:07,200
or gambling, like you said. So, but let's, how would, why don't you walk me through this?

498
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:14,320
Like I hear what you're saying about, we create our reality, right? And that we're, we're gods and

499
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:21,360
we can influence. We're an aspect of God in a very, very limited environment. But yes, where,

500
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,960
I would say where God sends receptors. So, so I'm going to ask you to elaborate on that. But

501
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:37,520
so how does this work for somebody that's maybe the, a teenage child of one or both parents arguing,

502
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:43,920
there's money issues, there's substance abuse, there's, you don't want to go to school because

503
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,960
school is living hell. You don't want to go home because home is living hell. Like,

504
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:56,960
how does, how does a child, how does a soul decode that? How do you, how does that soul

505
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:03,360
decode that? How do they navigate that? I, for me, and I can only speak subjectively,

506
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:10,400
I wasn't aware that I had a soul and I had no idea that the soul was driving my train. All I could

507
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,800
do was accept my reality and just deal with all the bullshit that my parents put upon me. I had no

508
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:22,640
way of decoding that. I had no way of assimilating that. But I also had no comparison. That was my

509
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:29,760
life. Just going around, moving house, watching my mum fall in and out of relationships. We had

510
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:36,160
domestic abuse, alcohol. I didn't have, and I'm so fortunate I wasn't sexually abused. But I think

511
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,960
I've experienced any other type of pain that a child would feel. I've actually been molested,

512
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,280
mildly, and we can talk about that when we get deeper into the conversations. But nothing that I

513
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,960
couldn't return from. But there was no, as a child, you're just forced to live in the reality

514
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:58,640
that your parents create for you. So when I was 17, 16, 17, I was able to emancipate myself and I

515
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:04,160
moved out from anyone that could tell me what to do. And it was with my brother. And then I started

516
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:11,680
the process of trying to make sense of the world. But I had had no one tell me or give me any idea

517
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,560
about what reality could look like. I was born in England. My mother was an atheist. My father

518
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,520
a Roman Catholic. He didn't say much about religion. I went to church a lot because I was bored and I

519
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:27,680
used it to entertain myself, not because I could relate to it at all. So there was no me fixing me

520
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:33,760
at all because I didn't know what reality was. I had thoughts uploaded into my mind. I would say

521
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:40,560
things that came into my head. I wasn't a wise young soul. And I just don't think, I mean,

522
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,040
I'm sure there are wise young souls. I have experiences with my mind that we can talk about

523
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,400
that might have been wise. But I was just pulled into the vortex of everyone around. I mean,

524
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,640
now from my position, looking back, that was all supposed to happen. And it strengthened me.

525
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,160
But I wasn't one of these children that thought, I'm going to understand what reality is. And I'm

526
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,920
going to work out what's going on in my head. That didn't happen until I was 26 until I had my first

527
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:14,480
child. So as a child, I was feral. What does that mean? I don't know. Wild. Feral, just wild. I had

528
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:20,080
no regulation of my own thoughts, didn't understand what God was. My mom was reality. It was all just

529
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:26,240
a crapshoot to me. And the development didn't begin till I was in my mid 20s. So if I had a

530
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:33,440
guest in the room that was, that had experienced, I pulled that kind of out of the hat, the idea

531
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:39,760
that there's a child with dysfunctional parents. But if that person was in the room today, and we

532
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:47,360
had this, we included that person, a boy or girl doesn't matter, teenager. What, what could you

533
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,640
share with them? How would, how would, how would you take your experiences and what would you

534
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,960
share with them to help them decode their situation? The first thing I would tell them is that you

535
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:04,880
are entirely responsible for your, for your reality and your reality will shape out given the quality

536
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,880
of your thinking. So let me interrupt you. Not to be, uh, can we make that more clear? Because

537
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:17,600
I know that if you would have told me that when I was 13, I don't cuss. I mean, you do all the

538
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,360
cussing for me. I don't. I do. You do all the cussing for me. I don't cuss. But I've never heard

539
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,160
you cuss. I'm going to get one out of you one day. Well, I think Robbins, Rob, they only heard me

540
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:35,680
cuss like, we've been married 29 years, I think maybe 29 times. That's not much at all. That

541
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:42,880
happened to me in a day. It's not going to happen. But, but, you know, as a teenager, I would have

542
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,840
looked if you would have said that to me, I would have said, I would have felt like you're blaming

543
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,480
me. Okay. So it felt like you're blaming me because, oh, you would have seen that. It's too heavy

544
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,040
because, well, because, you know, as a teenager, you're not, your brain isn't wired like Sarah

545
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:02,800
Terry is right now. But so if you say, well, you're, you're responsible for your reality,

546
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,760
I would look at that and think, well, you're blaming me for my stuff. I didn't do this because

547
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,360
I've been subject to that blame game when I was a child and I was raising the Catholic Church,

548
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,400
but it was the Byzantine Catholic Church. I'm Ukrainian Catholic. I was raised Ukrainian

549
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:24,640
Catholic, but I remember sitting there and my mom and grandma, I'm saying, you know, there's Jesus

550
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,800
on the cross and there's suffering and, you know, you look and he's bleeding and he's got the crown

551
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:34,400
with thorns and, and whenever you sin, which I don't know what sin is, right? I'm just a kid,

552
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:40,560
whenever you don't behave yourself or your sin, his cross gets heavier, he bleeds more, his pain

553
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is worse. Now that's a lot to unpack. So, so I, I was like, we'll talk about that another time,

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but as a child, it's no wonder I felt worthless and pitiful because I'm looking at this Jesus

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character saying, I'm feeling guilty because now he's taking all your burdens. I know I'm doing the

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best I can at five, six years old. I'm doing the best I can. I don't, I'm sorry. I don't want you

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to hurt. I don't want you to be my scapegoat. I don't want you to hurt, you know, because I don't

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know you, but that's a hell of a burden. But when you, when you say something like you're creating

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your own reality to, well, that would be the first thing that I would say. But so do you think that

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would be well received? Well, I, well, I wouldn't just say, are you talking about 12 year old? I

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wouldn't just say you're creating your reality. I would have 30 minutes with them at least, right?

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But then the second thing I would say is that you've got to understand that you're thinking,

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you've got to understand and get outside your thoughts. And I would encourage them to write

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down, and I do this in my journal, write down what you're thinking. You need to be from the

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perspective of the observer. If someone had told me that at age 12, I would have understood,

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because I'd had experiences where I'd come out of ego driven thinking, and I'd come into awareness.

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And awareness is just being aware, but there's no thoughts getting uploaded in your head.

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And I think young children can understand that as a concept, that you've got to be aware that

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you're thinking, and they can get very dark. Like you say, you've danced with darkness,

570
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I've had very, very bleak thoughts. And I would have loved someone to tell me at age 12,

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you've got to watch these thoughts, you've got to be aware of your thoughts. They're not you,

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you're here, you're observing them. And if you can get a child to understand that position,

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they're going to be more inclined to take control of what they're thinking about,

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rather than just having a thought upload in their head. And that's why I would say initially,

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you're responsible for creating your reality, not with any religious iconography. How do we say

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that word? Iconography. Iconographic? Yeah, I can never say it. Well, you did a great job.

577
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Iconography. I can't say it. You think I've been drinking. I'll have to try and get it right.

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It'll pop into my mind. But there's no, there's no religion, wouldn't be no religion around what I

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would say to a child. I wouldn't even involve God. I would say, you're creating your reality and your

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mind's doing it. Let's try and understand the workings of your mind. And it's okay to have dark

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thoughts. No one's punishing you for that. But if you can get a child to be the observer and see

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that they're the observer and the participant in their life, that was what I would tell a 12 year

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old. And I would start having them taken an inspection of their own mind with no religious

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iconography going on whatsoever. Okay, that's fair. So you made reference to the journal. You've got it.

585
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You said you have a journal, but I also know that you wrote a book or something. I forget the exact

586
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title of it, but the mirror world is the journal and this tells us to inspect our mind. Okay, so

587
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tell me how it, how does the mirror journal work? Like, what is it? What is this function? I know

588
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I read, it was the first thing I looked through. You gave it to me to look over. I thought it was

589
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very useful. Like for somebody who has no experience, zero experience with these ideas

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of myself looking at myself, which is what a mirror journal is, right? Exactly. Just try to help them

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interpret the world around them. Tell me, what is the mirror world as a tool, as a device? And how

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would you hope that that changes people's lives for the better? Well, the mirror world is a very

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easy read. It's a large journal is a four size and it takes about 40 minutes to read it from start

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to end. And it's in very, very large font on the left is me talking you through how to inspect

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your mind. And on the right is a lined page. I've got it in front of me. So on the right, I have

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at the top, write down your thoughts, catalog the mess, be brave, go ahead, transform. Because

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a lot of my life, my thinking was very, very messy. But I just thought my thoughts were private. I

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could look you in the face, have a load of thoughts. And I was trained as a flight attendant to be

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bubbly and lively. But you wouldn't know that the thoughts in my head that I had, and I just thought

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they were private and were meaningless. But they're not because the thoughts cause your vibration,

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and your outer reality will correspond. And that's what I would get a 12 year old child to understand.

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Forget religion, it doesn't matter what religion you're involved with. And the mirror world isn't

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about religion at all. It's about the workings of the mind, know yourself in order to do that.

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You've got to pull back to awareness. And in the mirror world, I walk the reader through the

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techniques and steps to become aware that you're awareness and become aware that you're the player

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of, and I liken this reality to a virtual reality game. And I start off with that as the premise

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of the book, where in a virtual reality game in a matrix, and we're controlling it.

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So as your vision for the mirror world, for it to be a book that you read like a novel,

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or is it something that they actually interact with? Like, do you want them to like read a page?

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And then write their, like, because you have a blank page in there. It's the idea that they read

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one page, write it, and then maybe do another page the next day. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would say,

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do you what you want with it? I mean, you could, you could actually pick up random pages. I mean,

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you could read this in a non-section to where it still makes, you could. Totally out of order.

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Yeah, because it wouldn't really matter. I would suggest that you read the whole thing from start

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to finish. And then the second time you go through it, because it's only 40 minutes,

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that's when you can start cataloging the mess, because you'll understand the premise of the book.

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Awesome. Sarah, this has been an amazing first episode. I know. So I want to close this out,

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and then we're going to have another episode. I can't wait. This has been wonderful. Tell me any

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closing thoughts you might have with our first ever episode together. Well, I'm just getting to

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know you. Like you said, we've only spent total time, which is, which is a pilot. Don't you say

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total time in your logbook? Total time. Total time. So the total time. The total time. Total time.

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Was a few hours. I'm getting to know you and everyone's on the journey with us. And I hope

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everyone's inspired. And if you have any questions, there's going to be a mechanism for you to be able

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to write your questions or call us. And so I look forward to doing that. And I mean, hundreds and

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hundreds and hundreds of episodes. And I'm all in. And I've had a lovely time. I'm so excited.

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Thank you for this first, our inaugural, inaugural,

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podcast. This is just the start of something special. I just, this has been so much fun.

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I want to, next time we meet, I'd like you to come up with maybe three questions that you think

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will knock me off, like off balance. Oh, don't even get me started. I love a challenge. Like,

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but I'm going to do the same for you. Oh, I look forward to it. But I just want to give people

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something to look forward to for our next episode. And then moving forward, what would you like people

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to look forward to from future episodes of Soul Decode?

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I think just to women chatting about life, love, hardship, God, the nature of this reality.

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I'd like to talk about personal experiences and give anecdotes. I'll ask you a few about that.

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But I feel like this is a chatty podcast talking about life and life is so complicated,

636
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so amazing that that would just be the theme and wherever that takes us. I'm a writer. I can go

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anywhere in my head. So you're delightful too. Okay, we're going to wrap it up. Thank you again,

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Sarah. Thanks for coming out to the Treehouse and we'll see you next week. Soul Decodes,

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