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Hello world and welcome. My name is Dr. Tia Julie Phillips. I'm in my studio here at the tree house
on Phillips Island. It sounds pretty cool and pretty terrific, but what's even more than that
terrific is I'm with my darling dear new friend and she'll explain what that means.
It's Sarah Teary. She's an author and philosopher and for those of you who've never met one of us
or the other or both, I'm going to have Sarah explain to us how is it that you came, how is
it that we came to meet? Okay. And how is it that we're in this studio right now? Well, it's very
interesting. The universe put us together. That's how we met. But you were at a plant exchange with
my friend Charlene and you'd given Charlene your business card and prior to that meeting she'd
been talking about Earth Angels a week earlier and it blew her away and it blew me away and when
she described you and how much love and energy that was exuding from you, we both knew at that
point that this was happening for a reason. That was prior to talking to you than I talked to you
briefly, but I knew in the first five minutes that we've known each other before and that we were
friends and this is our first meeting in this lifetime. And I'd called you about a minor medical
complaint and that was the reason I was put in touch with you, but this is the reason that
we're together doing this podcast and it was great. So thank you for that. How is it that,
like, what sense did you have like about this resonance that you feel because you and I have
only known each other for a few months, several months, right? Yes. But what was the resonance
that you felt because have you ever done a podcast before? Yes. That you did, that you ran it?
I participated in it. I just bit. Yes. All right. But you've never done what we're doing,
like create a podcast. Yes. But yes, I have created a podcast. Yes. That's online is with a friend
of mine, Frank, and we're beginning a radio station together. Okay. Yes. So why aren't you
helping me with some of this audio stuff? Oh, Frank did all the technical stuff. I can't do the
technical. I'm just a writer and a philosopher. Oh yeah. I just said that. Okay. So you felt some
sort of resonance, you know, yes. Is that something that is, is that an acquired skill or is that
something that you think it was innate when you, like, were you born with this? I think it's a
skill I was probably born with. It's developed over the years. I understand that people come into
your life for a reason and I've recognized this before a few times in my life. And this was the
same with you. Not everyone I meet, I feel the same about everything happens for a reason, of course.
But you, this earth angel conversation we'd had. And when you actually appeared, it blew
Charlene's mind away and it blew mine away because and then you're from Michigan. I'm from England
and Charlene's from South Africa. And I, how did these three broads end up with a few miles from
each other? And that in itself just blows me away. And then you're interested in the similar themes
I'm interested in. So that was very important. So for those of you listening, this is really
exciting because every time Sarah and I have wanted to talk about things, because we've,
we've had coffee before and we've had lunches and gatherings before. And we, we, we get into these,
we get really close to these really super cool conversations and we look at each other and say,
no, no, no, that's got to be on, we got to capture that. Yeah, it's got to be on the
side of it. It's been, it's been a bit frustrating because about so much to say, it's like,
So much to cover. So we want to take you on a journey. This is about like a soul's journey.
So we, we, we have this, you had, we had this concept. So we ran by some different ideas for
what, what the name of the podcast would be and what do people want? What do they need? And
what do we want? And what do we need in terms of getting our messages out there? So you came up
with soul decodes. What does that even mean? What is soul decodes? Well, decoding a soul is
analyzing what a soul could look like and the reality that the soul exists in. So you could
say you're decoding it. It, you're unwinding a mystery because we only know what we've been told
about the soul and that comes via religion and spiritual seeking. And it is a mystery. And I'm
still unraveling my soul and what it means to be me. I'm further along now. I'm 57 now. When I was
younger, I was unraveling my soul and decoding my soul. So I think it's an ongoing, ongoing eternal
journey. What have you learned so far that my soul is magnificent? Yes, and yours and everyone
listening to this. Okay. So take, take me on that journey now. I, I don't want to do the spoiler
alert thing, but I've read four of your books and I just finished your, the one that you graciously
gifted me. The star side prophecy. Yes. And you'll be part of book three, by the way. Oh my God.
Well, thank you. You're welcome. So, but so I know you've revealed a little bit in, in your books.
But what, without spoiling the books themselves, what can you reveal about yourself in terms of the
actual things you've learned about the human condition about, like, it's been my position that
we didn't accidentally happen upon this earth space. Like we're, we're here with some sort of an
intention, whether it's, we'll cover the options shortly. But I know that we're here for a reason,
and I think everybody has to ask that question of themselves at some point. Who am I and why am I
here? What are some of the things you've learned in your, you don't look 57, you look amazing.
Oh, well, thank you. That's very, that's very flattering. I've learned that we're creating our
reality. This is not coming at us. We're creating reality with our thoughts. The low grade thoughts
that we have in our mind means we're running on a low vibration and we will attract low grade
scenarios back into our reality. The moment you inspect your mind, control your thoughts,
think loving, gracious, kind thoughts, your external reality will reflect that. So we're in
control of our reality, participating in it and directing it. That is the biggest thing I've
learned to date. Loads of other lessons along the way, but that would be the big one. I have all
power and I'm creating this. It's not coming from anywhere outside of me. So I'm God in that, in
that. And that sounds, you can get in a lot of trouble for saying that, but each of us is an
aspect of God creating in what I refer to in one of my books as a matrix of sorts, a quantum
reality, where outer reality is corresponding to an inner vibration. Very, very powerful. Because
no one else is to blame for any of your suffering other than yourself. And that's a very important
point, very important for me because I used to be like a victim. I blame people for my things that
went wrong. And I realized this was all me. Very liberating. Well, I'm glad you're liberated.
But because you can't set others free until you set yourself free. So that's why I learned.
The truth will set you free. That's biblical, I think. And it's, yeah, it's that and more.
Sometimes they have people that ask the questions like, if there's a God, why would a school bus
drive off a cliff and kill all these innocent children? You know, those are difficult questions
have to be addressed, though. But we have to come to terms with those. Because it makes some
maybe it's drive some people into their, into their spiritual selves to try to seek understanding.
At the same time, it's going to drive other people away from God, like away from spirit,
away from that examination. They're going to say, there's no way that these bad evil things can
happen in the world. This is evidence that there's no God. Yes, my brothers like that. Okay, so,
so can you cover the spectrum a little bit like you've in your years, you've met people all across
the spectrum? Can you perhaps I should say something about my background a little bit? So what I was
going to say is, you know, you're you're clearly you're here in this place and time with all these
wonderful insights. How did you get here? Well, I'm a very old soul. I've had literally thousands of
life. This is not my first rodeo. So that is calibrated in my consciousness prior to being born.
And in this lifetime, I was a flight attendant for seven years. And I traveled the globe long
haul. And that exposed me to situations on this planet. And it's a shit show. What's going out
there on planet Earth? I mean, I know that you've been to Africa quite a bit. And I've been there
to an India and I was 21 when I went and I couldn't believe the amount of suffering. And I still have
a little PTSD from those experiences. So I fully understand when people think how God, how could
a God create any of this? Because you and I aren't suffering. We're here in beautiful Phillips Island,
living our dream, right? But there's so many people not far from here who are not doing that.
Part of the reason that they're suffering on this planet is because we don't understand God or the
intentions of what God is. And religion has to some degree subverted us from that. So suffering is
apparently, and I don't think this is permanent, but apparently a necessary
affliction in order for us to wake up to the fact that we're dictating it all with our thoughts.
The suffering that's happened in my life, and we can get into that later on,
they were the moments of absolute clarity where I woke up, where I knew I was running the show.
So would it be fair to say that one of our common goals with this Soul Decodes project?
Decoding God.
It is really for not only to decode what's going on within ourselves, but also maybe to share our
experiences and insights. And maybe down the road, even have people contact us with theirs
so we can kind of have that discussion too.
Beautiful.
But ultimately, what would you say would be a desired outcome of this project?
Humanities project, the desired outcome is heaven on earth, human flourishing for everyone.
That's the trajectory, that's the world I want to live in, and that's what I want to help
participate in and create. My personal project is writing about my experiences and my findings
as a philosopher.
So I interrupt you to go a little bit. I want to go back to the, you were telling him about your
history. You mentioned Flight Attendant and Seeing the World. You talked about...
Seeing suffering.
Seeing suffering, because I'm like you, because I had been to, by the time I was 27 years old,
I had been to like 50 countries.
Wow.
So I get it.
Yeah.
And it wasn't good.
You and me both.
They were not the garden spots.
No, I know.
No, absolutely.
But tell me more about those experiences, because I'm interested in how you came to be,
who you are today.
Well, the experiences I had as a Flight Attendant, I flew out of London on the 747,
and prior to getting the 400 in the series, we had the 200, and we had to stop in India
to get to Hong Kong. So I found myself in what was Bombay at the time. It's Mumbai now.
I don't think it's changed since then. And when you have an airport, obviously the airport has
to be out in the boondocks, and it has to be a far away from the city. So there's always quite
a drive, like an hour and a half's drive. And that's when you're taken through the ghettos,
basically. So I'd come from England, middle class upbringing, been to the continent a
few times, no real suffering, psychological suffering in my house, but I hadn't seen that
type of suffering. And it was absolute squalor and people's living conditions. I wouldn't treat my
dog like that. And that marked me, because it's the first time I saw the suffering. Now, back in
the 80s, when late 80s, when I was flying, we didn't have the internet. You couldn't just go online
and look up a video of what it's like in downtown Calcutta. You either had to experience it or read
about it in Cyclopædia Bractanica. But seeing that firsthand, and everything that I was doing,
I was staying in five-star hotels, paying loads of money, shopping. So the contrast was great
compared to this beautiful hotel that I stayed in, which was the Oberoi, compared to the average
suffering. So me being introduced to the planet like you, and I didn't know this at the time,
that was a stepping stone for me to question God. And the first book I wrote was called
Is This the Best God Could Do? Because I'd like, fuck this shit. Who is God? And what the fuck's
going on here? Excuse my language. But that's how I felt. And it was seeing the suffering firsthand
that catapulted me sitting here today. So I don't want you to ruin the book. But why would...
If you can give me the character of the book without spoiling it. But just if you give me
some of the flavors, I've already read it. But just from your perspective, what inspired you to
write that book? Was it your first book? Yes. It wasn't my first book I'd written for children,
a couple of screenplays. It's my first adult book. It was my first polemic. So it's your first adult
book. What was your goal? What did you hope to accomplish? And did you accomplish it with the
book? Haven't accomplished it yet because the book's not on the New York Times best-selling list.
That's where it's going. The intention of the book was to lay out alternative ideas of who and
what God could be. In order to do that, I had to study the monotheistic God, the God of Abraham,
the God of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. I had to break down. And I think it was about 20
chapters of what that God looked like and how it is an inferior way of understanding spirit and
the nature of this reality. Okay. So you're talking to somebody who's absolutely not religious. I don't
know the world religions. Is this a book that would be beneficial for most people like me?
Or would I be more confused than that? Because I'm not that person that, like, I can't explain to you
the differences between all of those religions because I don't... There's not many. Okay. There's
tedious nitpicking of interpretual... There's tedious nitpicking and talking about this dogma
and that dogma, but the premise is both... It is the same in all of them. It's a separate God. God is
separate and we call them different things. It could be Yahweh, Allah, or God. But those three
religions, I call them the big three. And the idea that God is separate is the problem. Is this the
best God could do? Was written to address? So one of the themes in the book was this idea of
monotheism versus polytheism. Can you explain that to a lay person? Perhaps even somebody who
doesn't even believe in God. Can you kind of cover that? Yes. So monotheism is the belief that God
is separate. Polytheism is the belief that there are many gods and pantheism, which is what my
belief is that God is everything. And they're really, really important points because that will
underpin your belief system. And we're all here creating belief system, whether we realize it
or not. That's what we're all doing. So when you say God is everything as a pantheist, does that
mean if I... Like I live on... Here's Phillips Island, right? It's beautiful. I go back. I have
these turtles. I have butterflies. I have alligators. I have snakes. Those are all... The beautiful
banana tree. That's all God. That's all the manifestation of God. God is everything. Planets,
the universe. We don't even know who and what God is on the other side of the veil. We don't know
anything about where we came from. Well, a lot of us, some people are now because they're having near
death experiences and they're going to the other side and coming back. But we don't understand
God. But whatever God is, he's created this entire universe. And I don't want to use the word here.
You might... Because I use that word, that's just kind of more conditioning. I don't believe God is
male or female. It's just energy. And so you can see God manifest on earth in everything. But he's
also manifest somewhere else. And we don't know what dimension that is. But whatever the source is,
it's unbelievable. We're in a mind-blowing reality here. And that's the premise of the
Star Side prophecy, to understand the alternative of what God could do compared to the Christian
version of God. Is that they were born, we get one life, and we either go to heaven or hell at the
end of it. That's... And it's a very, very limited perspective. So that's the perspective I examined
in Is This The Best God Could Do? And... Well, I guess you'd have to read it. I mean, it's pretty wild.
And I don't want to throw you curveballs, but I'm just trying to understand a little bit more about
the what's behind the book. Like I read the book and I got it. And that was good. But what's behind it.
So the title says, Is This The Best God Could Do? But a pantheist says that everything is God. We
are all God. So by extension, the title is effectively, Is This The Best We Can Do? Yes. Yes.
So in my world, everybody's trying to be... Like if I look at a flower out in my garden, or
an aloe vera plant, or a mango tree, or something, that tree is trying to be the very best it can be.
That even the moss, the fungus, the mushrooms, everything growing on Phillips Island,
is trying to be its very best. And it's also trying to find balance with everything around it.
Yes. Well, it can't be its very best until it finds balance with everything around it.
What do you mean by that? Tell me. Well, if you're going to be your very best,
you've got to live in harmony and balance with your environment. Otherwise,
you're not going to function at your very best. I understand that as a human being,
and you're talking about mangoes and moss. But I would say it's the same on every level
of the manifestation of God. So how do we find balance when we turn on the news?
And we've got all of these messages that are coming to us, and they're filtered, they're parsed,
whatever's on the corporate news. I don't even have a television. I don't even have cable or
anything. Best thing you've got going for you. I don't watch it. I find it to be...
It lowers your vibration. It doesn't serve me. It doesn't serve you. And if it doesn't serve...
What we say it, yes. If it doesn't serve the princess, then why would I do it?
Yeah, great. So, yeah. I think to be informed is one thing. I can be informed about what's
going on in the news without getting emotionally sucked in to the negativity. So I can understand
the world, but I'm dispassionate about it because I don't let the outer reality affect my inner
vibration. That has happened to me, but I can see now that that's not good. So I choose my news
sources, but I concentrate on making the vibration in my little bubble, Sarah's little world. That's
the piece of the world that I have to attend to. I can't at the moment, I hope to one day,
affect change in a great way in outer reality. If I had enough money, I would know what I would do,
but at the moment, I can't. So I concentrate on this little bubble that I'm living in. So there's no
point me going into some emotional crazy state because there's children starving in Yemen.
I mean, I intend to help that situation, but I cannot lower my vibration because, and I'm not
used to my family, to my friends, to the projects I have underway. So I agree with you. I would steer
clear of anything that's going to lower your vibration without you being able to change it.
I like what you said. Just creating an awareness where I'm aware that's happening,
and I'm going to permit it to not be part of me. I actually teach that with my clients, with my
students, when they come to me and they want, like if you're just the first person coming,
like first person on a Monday morning or something, and we're interacting.
First question I ask is, how did you find out about me? Second question, who are you, and why
are you here? How do people handle that question? It's very different for most, because the first
answer is always going to be, well, my name's, I'm Debbie, you knew that, and I'm diabetic,
and I have 35 pounds. I have to lose off my butt, right? So, and I'll say, well, Debbie, here's good
news. That's the easy part. And then Debbie will say, well, what are you talking about?
And then I'll explain to her. It's like, before we get going, three things I want you to know.
Number one, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a PhD in holistic natural health and nutrition.
I'm going to educate you, because I look at you as a divine soul, as a beautiful spirit.
And my goal is to help you see yourself as beautifully and as magnificently as I see you.
Love that. That's my number one goal. So I'm not going to give you medical advice.
You have to go to the medical clerics and the priests and priestesses associate and go to their
doctors, go to their go to the medical doctors for that. The shamans. I'm going to speak to your soul.
Right. So this is a connection between soul decodes and what I actually do, which is awesome.
Yeah. So the first thing I always do is let them know to whom they're speaking. The second thing
is I say, I'm going to encourage you to question everything. I want you to question everything
from this point forward. You mean reality at large? Everything, everything, capital, everything.
Yeah. Capital, not not capital E, capital, E V E R capital, everything, because it's pretty intense.
Well, but you know, the reason I asked them the question, everything is because
when we're children, we're told to, you know, shut up in color, stay in the lines. Cows are not purple.
Right. Well, my cows are. I look at it's like what lines? I don't see lines, you know, so
my, my, my world is one about creating and not being told what to do. I have one divine compass
and I follow that. So, but the problem is we have so many, the messages in today's world are so
incessant and we, we tend to get all up in our brain and our, I call it the monkey brain up in
our, in our, in our call it that who calls the Buddhists monkey mind. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.
You know more than I do, but, but I call it the monkey brain because people get all of this noise
and what do monkeys do? They monkey around, they throw poop, they scream, they rattle cages.
You can't even get your homework done because it's crazy because the monkeys are just being monkeys.
Incessant, but, but you can actually train them and condition them, but you have to have the
discipline to do that. So I teach my people that your heart is the number one brain, your heart
is your brain. Yeah. Your soul, your gut is your intuition, the checker. So your, your heart and
your gut have to agree. Yes. And then once they agree on something, and you can tell because you
have that good feeling, you get goosebumps, you get these really good feelings that yes, I'm doing
the right thing for the right reasons. Then the monkey brain falls into order and the monkey
brain will execute. Well, you're controlling it. The monkey mind is a computer and your awareness
controls that. It is. Most people get sucked into it. And I've spent a lot of my life embodying the
monkey mind without even knowing that I was in it, but I was able to pull back into awareness
and witness the monkey mind and getting the monkey mind under control, the monkey brain under the
control is, is still a project that I'm working on doing very well on it, but it's necessary for
everyone because there's two aspects, the heart and this computer brain that we have. So yeah, I, so
I do ask people to question everything because there's so many things we've been told about
ourselves and myself included. When, when I was a child, I knew I wanted to fly, fly airplanes.
I mean, it's one of my youngest memories flying airplanes, part of your destiny. Well, it has
to be if it's pulling you like that, there's something in a, in a, in a pre-life in the
planning stage before this life, this was on the cards for you for some reason, you had to know how
to fly a plane. And that's why it felt so compelling, I guess. And you're probably right. And what I
found was, you know, my family was broke. I mean, they were, they paid their bills. I don't know
how they did it. I honestly don't know how they did it, but they did it. But I knew that I couldn't
afford flying airplanes like to pay for it. So I had to join the military to do it. I had so many
people tell me, well, only one out of 40,000 people, only one out of so many number of people,
like I went to the Air Force Academy and the people that told you that it's one out of 40,000,
were these people close to you? Well, yeah. And that, but the thing is, I don't think they were
bad people, but they were conditioned. Was this your mom and dad? Not so much as some other people
close. My mom and dad, to some degree, they were, they were not cheerleaders, but they didn't discourage
me. Right. Okay. Because they, they had seen my mother. They had seen my capacity. But they also,
I think the reason that people tell you the limiters don't, because they don't want you to get
disappointed. They don't want you to, so it wasn't like they're being evil or bad or bad people.
They truly do care about you. But in, within the construct of caring for you, they sometimes,
yes, now don't get your hopes up because I don't want you to be let down.
Well, excuse me, but being let down is part of the, part of life. Yes. So, yes. It's actually
quite destructive, but they don't mean to be, they think they're helping, but they're putting
limitations on a child because you, but you didn't believe it because you did it anyway.
But you could have believed that and thought, well, I'm never going to get into the air for,
I mean, you could have believed that to be true and you'd become a schoolteacher or something,
right? But something in you still felt compelled like, I'm, fuck it, I'm going to do it. Well,
my position was, you know, when somebody's got to be there. So if, let's just say it's one out of
4,000 people, because first thing you have to do if you're going to go to a service academy is you
have to get the, a senatorial or a congressional invitation, right? Like you literally have to
write a letter and like petition your congressman to interview you. And there's this whole process.
There's this whole process, but it's true only like one out of some huge number even get to interview.
So there's a lot of things you have to go through. But my idea was, well, if who's going to go,
like if it's not me, who's it going to be? And what are they doing that I can't do? And how do I,
how do I get that, how do I get that spot? Great, great advanced self questioning there.
Well, but the thing is like, we'll talk about this in a different episode, you know,
a different podcast, but growing up myself image of my view of myself was so poor,
very, very, very dark. I danced with darkness almost my whole life. And in doing so,
I had come to this, this place where it's like, why, what is this darkness? Is this something that
I have to overcome? Is this like a challenge that's put in front of me? But what happened is it
really worked it whittled away at my ego and myself, myself worth myself. So I instead of
offering myself a deer just ran past your head. Just when you were saying that this deer came
shooting out and went straight into the middle of your head. For those listening, I'm looking at
Phillips Island in in Tia Jolie studio and this deer just when you said that, that's so funny.
So I have to find somebody in the audience that tells me, okay, what does it mean when a deer
runs into my ear? I know, we'll have to research that with your runs into my ear. What does that mean?
So what I'm sharing is that like, I, I was very sad. I was a good person. Like I was a good kid.
And I was, I was kind and peaceful. Now, I wouldn't say I was peaceful. I was very angry. But,
but I was kind. I minded my manners. I was quiet for the most part, except for with my siblings,
they were super loud. But the takeaway is that my, I didn't feel good about myself. And the only
way I felt good was accomplishing things. I became an overachiever. Right. Yeah. Well, that's apparent
from looking at your bio. It's like, Holy shit. I was like, you've had 10 lifetimes in one.
And we're just getting started. Just warming up. Just warming up. But, but thank you for that.
But, but I think part of my, part of my journey has been that of getting past myself,
getting past all of the negative self-talk, getting past the idea that I'm not worth it.
And the darkness is still there sometimes, but I've learned to dance with it. And I've said,
it's the, it's the old song, you know, hello darkness, my old friend. Yes. Yes. I don't know if
that's what they intended from the lyrics, but it certainly was applicable. And now I just,
I'm, I'm to the place you can't give something that you, you can't give something that you don't
have. I agree. So when I, when I'm working with my clients, with my, my new friends that are looking
for help, I couldn't help them until I help myself. So I had to get to the point where if I couldn't,
like I had to go through that depression and truthfully, although I was never quote suicidal,
like I was never to the point where I wanted to totally off myself. I thought about it with the
idea. I thought of it. And then I said, just wait another day, another day. And I made that another
day decision like thousands of times. So, you know, you just wait another day and then pretty soon
you, you grow through it or you learn to work with it. That's fantastic. So when you, how old
were you when you started in the military? Because this is very sophisticated self-talk for one so
young. So I knew I wanted to go to the Air Force Academy, like in seventh or eighth grade. There
was, I was, I was a jazz trumpeter and my bass player was right behind me with the upright bass.
And he had said that he's excited because his older brother was going to the Naval Academy,
the US Naval Academy. And I was like, the what? I'd never heard of it because we didn't have
internet. We didn't have exactly. We're in the dark. We're in the dark. I didn't know there was even
a Naval Academy. So I looked at him and I said, is there one of those for the Air Force?
He says, yeah, I'm pretty sure. So I'm like, can you ask your brother? So the bass player.
It's so naive and sweet, isn't it? It's like, I want to know if there's one of those for the
Air Force because I had never heard of it because I asked the counselor, they didn't know. It's like,
yeah, I think. When you used to see planes fly around, did that fascinate you at that age?
I grew up close to Detroit Metro Airport. And I used to lay on my lawn and look up. I was in the
approach. Like, I don't know. So I fly right over top of me, right? But I found out about that the
Air Force Academy existed. Like, I didn't even know it existed, but I had to do all this.
Like, there was no internet. So I had to go and he brought me an old catalog. So I had to get a new
catalog. So I wrote the Academy and got a new catalog sent to me. But I did all of those things
because I was exploring. And I think that's central to what you and I are is if we have an idea that
whether it's something we want to accomplish or something we want to do, like your idea of being a
like, I don't want to spoil the book, but basically, you know, you were bounced around from
from for many different conditions, like different living conditions, different
relatives, you were just bounced around a lot. Strangers, strangers, completely strangers. But
but ultimately that made you very strong in a way. It was very treacherous. Very treacherous. But
ultimately, you got to a point where you saw an opportunity to fly, to be a flight attendant.
And that like opened up your world. And then you use that to build on. But so you had to go through
all of these things in your life to to, there were stepping stones for you to be where you are now.
Quite right. So same thing with me. Like, when I found out there's an Academy, and then I found
out there's this infinite number of loops, hoops that I had to jump through. Yeah, just to go to
the Academy. I didn't go to I could imagine. I didn't even want to go to the Academy. I wanted
to fly airplanes. Yeah. But the best way to fly airplanes was through the Academy. Well, the
only way because you couldn't afford the fly towers. Well, I mean, it was through like, there
was some, it's called ROTC, which is like, oh, that's right. Reserve officer. Yes, my friend's son
went through that. Yeah. But there was a higher percentage. There's no guarantees, but there's
a higher percentage if you went through a service Academy. In fact, when I was a senior, there was
such a deficiency in pilots that if you were qualified to fly, but you said you didn't,
you did not want to fly, you actually had to go talk to the Colonel, Fullberg Colonel,
and explain yourself. Wow. So that's how much they wanted you to be flying airplanes.
That's a lot. So I just share that with you because the, I think that if somebody's got
something in their heart that they want to do, and you know, we're going to talk about this in
more depth, but you know, you talk about creating your reality. Well, some of it's in your life plan,
and you write your life plan prior to being born. And these are what comes in. So you being a pilot
starting, I mean, you've got a lot of roles you're playing in this life, but that was on the cards.
And any ideas that you had, it might have been talking to your friend in seventh grade,
but it was part of your destiny. And when you deal with the concept of monotheism and having one
life and God is separate, you never consider that you have a particular destiny. And you have
talked about this destiny and understood an agreement, not understood an agreement, entered
into an agreement with the source of what is. So a lot of our seminal experiences, good or bad,
were written into our life plan. So you caught up with what was in your life plan. And that doesn't
make much sense if we believe we have one life, nothing much is going on, could be a bitch, and
then we die. But when we understand that we're evolving into something much larger than this one
aspect of us, then it makes total sense to me that you caught up with what was in your life plan
and flying. I mean, I have to just tell the listeners, I have a private pilot's license
about 100 hours. And what it took for me to get through that, it just blew my mind. And what
you've done, I mean, I have a slight inkling of what it entails. Just from this tiny experience
I have, I mean, my husband's a pilot, he has about 20,000 hours, it just blows my mind what you
have to do. And you're saying you were jumping through hoops, not just to be a pilot, just to
get into the military. And I mean, it's unbelievable, it's a big thing that you've required of yourself.
It was a good experience. I was, you know, people say, well, thank you for your service.
And I get humbled because it's like, I don't, I feel like I was the one being served.
Oh, that's so sweet. Because the opportunity I had, the things I was able to do, we'll talk
about that another time. I want to double back and actually have you speak a little bit because
I want this to be valuable for listeners. But before I go there, or could we just get back to,
okay, so you were talking about talking to Debbie, Debbie was this fictitious person.
Okay. And the questions that you ask her, can you just tell me those again, the first one?
I always ask the question. Now I'm all over the place. Okay, for those of you listening,
we don't have any scripts here. We are literally freewheeling this. We've got our little
tables next to us with our sips of water or coffee or energy drink. And we're just totally
freewheeling this. So if there's a topic that we double back to, we'll double back on everything.
We'll try to double back. We don't get it today. We'll get it on the next podcast. But we're,
we're going to definitely, we want this to be an experience for you. We want this to be,
we're in a process of learning about each other, each other. Truly. Yeah. And I've been looking,
I've been looking forward to this for months. So we're forming a friendship with everyone else
listening. Everyone's listening to us, building our friendship. And what's interesting is for
somebody listening to us right now, you would think that we've known each other since we're
girls, little girls. Well, we've known each other for centuries, millennia. But in this,
but what's fascinating is like, I don't think people, like listeners can comprehend that we
literally just met. If you and I look at the total time that we've spent with each other,
it's probably no more than about seven hours. I think that's accurate. Yeah. And some of that
was with other people. That's right. In more forms. So I think just one on one. It's been probably
three hours. But we can, yes, you're probably right. And we kept saying we, we've got to wait for
there's Mike, we need a mic. We've got to get a mic. I want to talk about this. But now right now,
so all I was sharing with, with when brand new people come in is that I want them to comprehend
that I'm speaking to their souls and that their, their soul's journey is what's important to me.
And if she's got 30 pounds on her butt or she's, you know, she's diabetic and she's going to lose
her leg or whatever, that's easy. Those things are, those things are so easy. I've got people
that find me that have, you know, stage four cancer and they're, they've been literally sent off to
die. And those people come to me and they're scared. They're lonely. They're desperate. And
my message to them is the same as it is to you. You are powerful. You're beautiful. Your self,
our bodies, these beautiful avatars that we have, they're self regulating, they're self healing.
We don't need to inject ourselves with poisons. We don't need to irradiate ourselves. What we need
to do is live cleanly. What I do teach my people is, you know, when we talk about nutrition and
toxicity and things like that, we introduce our own toxicity to ourselves. Like we literally
introduce, we permit things to happen. So the third thing I share with people is that,
um, that they're the boss, like they're the queen or the king. So they're the sovereigns. And I
sometimes use the captain, like you're the captain of the ship. But I'm a really, really, really,
really good first officer. And so if you're really, really, really good first officer,
taps you on the shoulder and says, uh, captain, you're the boss, but have you considered this?
Yes. You probably should think about it. Right. So I just share that because
I don't look at people's avatars. I think that their avatars, their bodies are very much a reflection
of how they view themselves and what they're, when they're internal mechanisms. Exactly. And
you know, I think of things like, uh, people who are say, anorexic or, uh, bulimic and
what's happening is that when they look in a mirror, they see something different than,
than is actually, or they look in a mirror and they want to be something different.
Right. So there's this, this conflict, this, this conflict, no self-acceptance. So we have to,
we have to speak to the soul. And what I was going to share is that within, when I ask, when I get
into the conversation about who are you and why are you here? And they realize that they're, they're
in a place. I mentioned, I forgot to mention the third thing I tell you, I tell people
is that I'm ordained. I'm actually ordained in divinity, but also holistic, natural healing.
And what that means is that whatever you share with me stays here. There's no judgment. There's no
conversation over a glass of wine with my spouse. It wouldn't even come up in this show.
It doesn't come up. It's as if you're allowed, you're permitted, a number of people that
once they comprehend that they're in a position where there's somebody sitting in front of them,
they can love them without condition. No matter what, and I tell them, no matter what you tell me,
I will never love you any less. See, that's the message we all wanted from our parents.
Right. That's the message we wanted from our whole support structure growing up. Sarah,
no matter what you do, no matter what you say, I love you unconditionally. There's no
there's nothing you can do to change my love for you. And you want to hear that day after day
after day after day. And we don't, we hear the opposite sometimes. Do you think there's too much
of a yearning to hear that we're great day after day? Because I would say that's something that
you've got to tell yourself. Oh, that's the transference. I agree. And what I do, what I share
with them is see, because when they come to me, they're very frail. Yeah, I bet. They're,
they're self-image is bad. They're afraid. They're, so what I do is they're not dancing with darkness.
They're fully submerged into it. And so one of the things I, they oftentimes cry, like within,
almost all of them, like in fact, right behind my chair, behind their chair, there's Kleenex box,
because it's probably some relief associated with it's unbelievable. And when I, I will actually
stand up and go hug them. I'll say, may I hug you? And they're like crying and nodding. So I will
hug them, but I do it for 20 seconds. Like I literally, I put my left ear to their left ear,
and I give them a hug. I don't know if I've ever given you a 20 second hug, but I don't know if
I've ever let you. I'm British. I don't get too near to people. Well, the British, you ought to do
this. We hardly hug. Well, we're going to shake hands from a six feet distance. No, I'm going to hug
you today. All right, let's do it. But, but, but here's the thing. What I do is I give the,
a hug him. What I experienced is like when I hug them, it's usually like one potato, put two potato,
and they're going to try to release. Cause that's all they're restraining them to some degree.
Then what I do is I say, I'm going to give you a 20 second hug. I'm telling them. Yeah. And then I
give them a two second hug and they release. I'm like, no, no, not yet. And what I'm doing is I'm
literally putting my heart on top of their heart because it's my left ear to their left ear. And
I'm hugging them. And what I'm visualizing when I hug them is I visualize them as a baby, just an
infant, a little baby. And I visualize the, the amplification of the mother, the mother, the mother,
generations of mothers all the way through decades and decades and decades. I visualize that so that
when I, when I embrace them, I'm channeling those millennia of mothers that loved their, their
posterity into that moment. So when I, or didn't, or didn't, yeah, or couldn't, or couldn't, or were
helpless themselves. So what I want to do is communicate that infinite love, the ancestral,
the ancestral maternal love, into a hug. And I'm putting my heart on theirs and that heart to heart
connection. I feel them melt, literally. So they'll try to release again after about 10 seconds.
God, if someone was strained to me like that, I'd put them in a fucking choke hold. I think it would
be too much for me. But you've said, except for you couldn't do that with me. I couldn't with you.
I wouldn't even try with you. But what I find is by the 20 seconds, they, they have,
so if they resist at some point towards the 20, they're, they're melting after, if there's any
resistance. Yeah. Cause what happens is they, they, they literally, like when you envelop them in that
love that just that, and they know it's not like sexual or perverted or anything, it's just pure
maternal, maternal love. Like I've got you. And sometimes I'll say that. I'll actually whisper
to them, I've got you. And that, that's what they need. So you're basically in this wrapping
around them. You're, you're imparting your energy. And so, and they probably need it because they are,
you know, out of control in their lives. So you're stabilizing them to some degree.
And it doesn't matter if it's a guy or a girl, it doesn't matter. They, I always ask permission.
And they, they nod, yes. Yeah. But the experience is just stunning. And they thank me.
And they leave, they leave here a different person. Yes. When Charlene, we talked about
Charlene right at the beginning, she met you, she came here. She called me when she got home and she
couldn't believe how elevated she felt when she was driving away from here. Sadly, I can't
speak to whether or not that happened. Well, I'm telling you, if she shared that with you, then
you can, but I can't comment one way or the other. Yeah, that's fine. But it was, that's how she felt
around you. Well, that's beautiful. And the fact that she shared that with you is beautiful too.
Thanks for that. So I'm going to bounce it back to you because I want to find out, you know, again,
I try to be very pragmatic. We've got people listening to this and they've got real world
challenges. Okay. So I want to ask the question, let's just, what would you,
I come from a family who has problems with alcohol, like my aunts, my uncles, my grandparents, my
interesting because me too. Yeah. Okay. So, so let's just have this conversation, whether it's
alcohol or drugs or could be shopping, it could be gambling, any sort of compulsive type of things
or gambling, like you said. So, but let's, how would, why don't you walk me through this?
Like I hear what you're saying about, we create our reality, right? And that we're, we're gods and
we can influence. We're an aspect of God in a very, very limited environment. But yes, where,
I would say where God sends receptors. So, so I'm going to ask you to elaborate on that. But
so how does this work for somebody that's maybe the, a teenage child of one or both parents arguing,
there's money issues, there's substance abuse, there's, you don't want to go to school because
school is living hell. You don't want to go home because home is living hell. Like,
how does, how does a child, how does a soul decode that? How do you, how does that soul
decode that? How do they navigate that? I, for me, and I can only speak subjectively,
I wasn't aware that I had a soul and I had no idea that the soul was driving my train. All I could
do was accept my reality and just deal with all the bullshit that my parents put upon me. I had no
way of decoding that. I had no way of assimilating that. But I also had no comparison. That was my
life. Just going around, moving house, watching my mum fall in and out of relationships. We had
domestic abuse, alcohol. I didn't have, and I'm so fortunate I wasn't sexually abused. But I think
I've experienced any other type of pain that a child would feel. I've actually been molested,
mildly, and we can talk about that when we get deeper into the conversations. But nothing that I
couldn't return from. But there was no, as a child, you're just forced to live in the reality
that your parents create for you. So when I was 17, 16, 17, I was able to emancipate myself and I
moved out from anyone that could tell me what to do. And it was with my brother. And then I started
the process of trying to make sense of the world. But I had had no one tell me or give me any idea
about what reality could look like. I was born in England. My mother was an atheist. My father
a Roman Catholic. He didn't say much about religion. I went to church a lot because I was bored and I
used it to entertain myself, not because I could relate to it at all. So there was no me fixing me
at all because I didn't know what reality was. I had thoughts uploaded into my mind. I would say
things that came into my head. I wasn't a wise young soul. And I just don't think, I mean,
I'm sure there are wise young souls. I have experiences with my mind that we can talk about
that might have been wise. But I was just pulled into the vortex of everyone around. I mean,
now from my position, looking back, that was all supposed to happen. And it strengthened me.
But I wasn't one of these children that thought, I'm going to understand what reality is. And I'm
going to work out what's going on in my head. That didn't happen until I was 26 until I had my first
child. So as a child, I was feral. What does that mean? I don't know. Wild. Feral, just wild. I had
no regulation of my own thoughts, didn't understand what God was. My mom was reality. It was all just
a crapshoot to me. And the development didn't begin till I was in my mid 20s. So if I had a
guest in the room that was, that had experienced, I pulled that kind of out of the hat, the idea
that there's a child with dysfunctional parents. But if that person was in the room today, and we
had this, we included that person, a boy or girl doesn't matter, teenager. What, what could you
share with them? How would, how would, how would you take your experiences and what would you
share with them to help them decode their situation? The first thing I would tell them is that you
are entirely responsible for your, for your reality and your reality will shape out given the quality
of your thinking. So let me interrupt you. Not to be, uh, can we make that more clear? Because
I know that if you would have told me that when I was 13, I don't cuss. I mean, you do all the
cussing for me. I don't. I do. You do all the cussing for me. I don't cuss. But I've never heard
you cuss. I'm going to get one out of you one day. Well, I think Robbins, Rob, they only heard me
cuss like, we've been married 29 years, I think maybe 29 times. That's not much at all. That
happened to me in a day. It's not going to happen. But, but, you know, as a teenager, I would have
looked if you would have said that to me, I would have said, I would have felt like you're blaming
me. Okay. So it felt like you're blaming me because, oh, you would have seen that. It's too heavy
because, well, because, you know, as a teenager, you're not, your brain isn't wired like Sarah
Terry is right now. But so if you say, well, you're, you're responsible for your reality,
I would look at that and think, well, you're blaming me for my stuff. I didn't do this because
I've been subject to that blame game when I was a child and I was raising the Catholic Church,
but it was the Byzantine Catholic Church. I'm Ukrainian Catholic. I was raised Ukrainian
Catholic, but I remember sitting there and my mom and grandma, I'm saying, you know, there's Jesus
on the cross and there's suffering and, you know, you look and he's bleeding and he's got the crown
with thorns and, and whenever you sin, which I don't know what sin is, right? I'm just a kid,
whenever you don't behave yourself or your sin, his cross gets heavier, he bleeds more, his pain
is worse. Now that's a lot to unpack. So, so I, I was like, we'll talk about that another time,
but as a child, it's no wonder I felt worthless and pitiful because I'm looking at this Jesus
character saying, I'm feeling guilty because now he's taking all your burdens. I know I'm doing the
best I can at five, six years old. I'm doing the best I can. I don't, I'm sorry. I don't want you
to hurt. I don't want you to be my scapegoat. I don't want you to hurt, you know, because I don't
know you, but that's a hell of a burden. But when you, when you say something like you're creating
your own reality to, well, that would be the first thing that I would say. But so do you think that
would be well received? Well, I, well, I wouldn't just say, are you talking about 12 year old? I
wouldn't just say you're creating your reality. I would have 30 minutes with them at least, right?
But then the second thing I would say is that you've got to understand that you're thinking,
you've got to understand and get outside your thoughts. And I would encourage them to write
down, and I do this in my journal, write down what you're thinking. You need to be from the
perspective of the observer. If someone had told me that at age 12, I would have understood,
because I'd had experiences where I'd come out of ego driven thinking, and I'd come into awareness.
And awareness is just being aware, but there's no thoughts getting uploaded in your head.
And I think young children can understand that as a concept, that you've got to be aware that
you're thinking, and they can get very dark. Like you say, you've danced with darkness,
I've had very, very bleak thoughts. And I would have loved someone to tell me at age 12,
you've got to watch these thoughts, you've got to be aware of your thoughts. They're not you,
you're here, you're observing them. And if you can get a child to understand that position,
they're going to be more inclined to take control of what they're thinking about,
rather than just having a thought upload in their head. And that's why I would say initially,
you're responsible for creating your reality, not with any religious iconography. How do we say
that word? Iconography. Iconographic? Yeah, I can never say it. Well, you did a great job.
Iconography. I can't say it. You think I've been drinking. I'll have to try and get it right.
It'll pop into my mind. But there's no, there's no religion, wouldn't be no religion around what I
would say to a child. I wouldn't even involve God. I would say, you're creating your reality and your
mind's doing it. Let's try and understand the workings of your mind. And it's okay to have dark
thoughts. No one's punishing you for that. But if you can get a child to be the observer and see
that they're the observer and the participant in their life, that was what I would tell a 12 year
old. And I would start having them taken an inspection of their own mind with no religious
iconography going on whatsoever. Okay, that's fair. So you made reference to the journal. You've got it.
You said you have a journal, but I also know that you wrote a book or something. I forget the exact
title of it, but the mirror world is the journal and this tells us to inspect our mind. Okay, so
tell me how it, how does the mirror journal work? Like, what is it? What is this function? I know
I read, it was the first thing I looked through. You gave it to me to look over. I thought it was
very useful. Like for somebody who has no experience, zero experience with these ideas
of myself looking at myself, which is what a mirror journal is, right? Exactly. Just try to help them
interpret the world around them. Tell me, what is the mirror world as a tool, as a device? And how
would you hope that that changes people's lives for the better? Well, the mirror world is a very
easy read. It's a large journal is a four size and it takes about 40 minutes to read it from start
to end. And it's in very, very large font on the left is me talking you through how to inspect
your mind. And on the right is a lined page. I've got it in front of me. So on the right, I have
at the top, write down your thoughts, catalog the mess, be brave, go ahead, transform. Because
a lot of my life, my thinking was very, very messy. But I just thought my thoughts were private. I
could look you in the face, have a load of thoughts. And I was trained as a flight attendant to be
bubbly and lively. But you wouldn't know that the thoughts in my head that I had, and I just thought
they were private and were meaningless. But they're not because the thoughts cause your vibration,
and your outer reality will correspond. And that's what I would get a 12 year old child to understand.
Forget religion, it doesn't matter what religion you're involved with. And the mirror world isn't
about religion at all. It's about the workings of the mind, know yourself in order to do that.
You've got to pull back to awareness. And in the mirror world, I walk the reader through the
techniques and steps to become aware that you're awareness and become aware that you're the player
of, and I liken this reality to a virtual reality game. And I start off with that as the premise
of the book, where in a virtual reality game in a matrix, and we're controlling it.
So as your vision for the mirror world, for it to be a book that you read like a novel,
or is it something that they actually interact with? Like, do you want them to like read a page?
And then write their, like, because you have a blank page in there. It's the idea that they read
one page, write it, and then maybe do another page the next day. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would say,
do you what you want with it? I mean, you could, you could actually pick up random pages. I mean,
you could read this in a non-section to where it still makes, you could. Totally out of order.
Yeah, because it wouldn't really matter. I would suggest that you read the whole thing from start
to finish. And then the second time you go through it, because it's only 40 minutes,
that's when you can start cataloging the mess, because you'll understand the premise of the book.
Awesome. Sarah, this has been an amazing first episode. I know. So I want to close this out,
and then we're going to have another episode. I can't wait. This has been wonderful. Tell me any
closing thoughts you might have with our first ever episode together. Well, I'm just getting to
know you. Like you said, we've only spent total time, which is, which is a pilot. Don't you say
total time in your logbook? Total time. Total time. So the total time. The total time. Total time.
Was a few hours. I'm getting to know you and everyone's on the journey with us. And I hope
everyone's inspired. And if you have any questions, there's going to be a mechanism for you to be able
to write your questions or call us. And so I look forward to doing that. And I mean, hundreds and
hundreds and hundreds of episodes. And I'm all in. And I've had a lovely time. I'm so excited.
Thank you for this first, our inaugural, inaugural,
podcast. This is just the start of something special. I just, this has been so much fun.
I want to, next time we meet, I'd like you to come up with maybe three questions that you think
will knock me off, like off balance. Oh, don't even get me started. I love a challenge. Like,
but I'm going to do the same for you. Oh, I look forward to it. But I just want to give people
something to look forward to for our next episode. And then moving forward, what would you like people
to look forward to from future episodes of Soul Decode?
I think just to women chatting about life, love, hardship, God, the nature of this reality.
I'd like to talk about personal experiences and give anecdotes. I'll ask you a few about that.
But I feel like this is a chatty podcast talking about life and life is so complicated,
so amazing that that would just be the theme and wherever that takes us. I'm a writer. I can go
anywhere in my head. So you're delightful too. Okay, we're going to wrap it up. Thank you again,
Sarah. Thanks for coming out to the Treehouse and we'll see you next week. Soul Decodes,
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