1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,880 Welcome back to the Ameropean at Heart podcast, where we dive deep into sharing everything, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:13,100 crazy travel stories, dating adventures, culture, fusions, and plenty of takeaways to entertain 3 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:22,080 and feed your inner curiosity and travel bug. 4 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:28,700 Good morning, afternoon or evening, whatever time of the day it is for you at this moment. 5 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:32,080 Here we are with episode number five. 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:38,020 I hope that you're feeling pumped and as excited as we are for our fun episode today because 7 00:00:38,020 --> 00:00:42,040 we have Marco tuning in for us again. 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:48,560 I've gotten some very positive feedback about the what it's like being with a German episodes 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,420 with Marco in them. 10 00:00:50,420 --> 00:00:53,940 So I'm more than happy to be having him here with us again. 11 00:00:53,940 --> 00:01:00,480 I'm aiming now to get him in at least once a month, fingers crossed. 12 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,560 Today's episode topic about childhood experiences and growing up in Germany versus America that 13 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,640 we're going to be diving into shortly is literally one that I thought of in the shower. 14 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,920 As random as that sounds, I'm sure that you may be able to relate to this and I've done 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,640 the same thing yourself before. 16 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:26,880 I remember being a kid here in the U S and always wondering about life, school, food, 17 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:33,200 candy, shows, traditions, and so much more were like for other kids in other countries 18 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,240 and especially Germany. 19 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:42,000 Marco and I actually discussed the topic of school and school life so much in detail when 20 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,840 recording this that I've actually decided to leave almost all of that out for today 21 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,240 and create a whole separate episode because this one would have otherwise been longer 22 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:59,800 than an hour and I try to keep these episodes half an hour or less to keep them manageable 23 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:07,080 for you to take in hearing the details about a quote unquote European childhood from Marco's 24 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:15,400 perspective compared to an quote unquote American childhood that I had will be, I believe, fascinating, 25 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,840 insightful, entertaining, and may make you feel nostalgic about all the little things 26 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,760 from your own childhood. 27 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:28,200 I hope that you'll walk away from this episode being able to relate to many references that 28 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Marco and I will be making and that you'll walk away with a fresher, more cultured perspective 29 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,040 about how early years are spent in different countries. 30 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Without further ado, let's start our little trip back in time together and bring in Marco. 31 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,080 We are rolling. 32 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,860 Marco is now here live with us. 33 00:02:52,860 --> 00:02:54,600 Are you excited to be back? 34 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,600 Thrilled. 35 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Yeah, I know. 36 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,320 I see it in your face. 37 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,080 So there are so many things that I want us to really dive into today and I think you 38 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:09,000 already know because I prefaced you that we'll be talking about childhood and our experience 39 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,520 as growing up. 40 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,520 So the first thing that I want you to tell us about is a little bit about your life and 41 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,760 environment growing up in Germany. 42 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,200 So first and foremost, how would you describe yourself as a kid? 43 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,560 Like your personality, how you carried yourself? 44 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,360 I was a well-behaved kid. 45 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 I was not a troublemaker, but I was blunt. 46 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,520 So go into more detail about what you mean by blunt. 47 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Well, sometimes maybe a little bit disrespectful towards adults. 48 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,280 Oh, I wasn't expecting that. 49 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Wait, so tell us a story or give an example. 50 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,520 I can't give a specific example, but sometimes I lacked a little bit of respect and I made 51 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,520 weird jokes or whatever. 52 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Doesn't matter if I was five or 15. 53 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Not a whole lot has changed. 54 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:10,040 I mean, the thing is I was also really disruptive as a kid and a lot of people don't really 55 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,720 know that about me. 56 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Like I was really naughty in school. 57 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,520 I can totally see that. 58 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Oh, you can. 59 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:21,040 I mean, the thing is I got in trouble a lot, I think from the beginning of school. 60 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,800 So here in the US, that's kindergarten up until I think about fifth grade. 61 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,440 So about age 10. 62 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Yeah, I got in trouble just a lot. 63 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:36,760 And it was so I really do understand where you're coming from with that. 64 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,480 Describe to us now where in Germany you grew up and about your home environment. 65 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,200 So did you live in a house? 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,920 Did you live in an apartment? 67 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Did you live in a townhouse? 68 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Did you live in a very big or small city? 69 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,460 So I mean, those kinds of details. 70 00:04:54,460 --> 00:05:01,640 So I was born and raised in the east of Germany in a city, decently sized city by the name 71 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,480 of Chemnitz, not a very popular place to be. 72 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,480 But it was it was okay. 73 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,520 I mean, I didn't lack anything growing up. 74 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,720 I grew up in apartments my whole life. 75 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,980 So I didn't have a yard like Americans usually have, you know, any any American who who grows 76 00:05:18,980 --> 00:05:25,920 up in kind of suburbia has a yard and basically kind of a separated isolated environment. 77 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Whereas for me growing up, I guess that was more social exposure and a sense of you went 78 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,600 to a public playground somewhere in the neighborhood and you had your sandbox there and your swing 79 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,280 and, you know, your slide and whatever. 80 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:45,040 Yeah, you just met other kids from the neighborhood. 81 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,840 I guess that's maybe a big difference compared to to to how you grew up here. 82 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,160 Yeah, that is a big difference because I always grew up in a house. 83 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:59,360 I always associated apartments with young people and young people only. 84 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:05,360 So it wasn't until I actually went to Europe, as you know, that I realized, oh, this is 85 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,040 the way of life for everyone. 86 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Yeah, I grew up in a house. 87 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:15,120 I grew up with my own sandbox, my own swing, my own everything. 88 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,560 But there are definitely pros and cons to both being more social in the apartments and 89 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,560 then being more isolated in your kind of house environment. 90 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Yeah. 91 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,920 Also, even even for somebody in Germany who would grow up in like in a more rural area 92 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:35,360 or in a kind of in the in the outskirts of a city, Germany does not have the suburbs 93 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,680 the way they exist here in the US. 94 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Go into more detail about that. 95 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,040 Well, I don't know if I know about that. 96 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,180 Just the whole way of the way those neighborhoods are kind of planned. 97 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:50,480 And for one thing, there's so much less space in Germany and it's not as you know, not as 98 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,480 planned. 99 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,600 Everything here is very planned and you know, the subdivisions and properties are bigger 100 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,600 usually. 101 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,440 And that's why most people here, I guess, can accommodate more stuff in their yard and 102 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,000 have basically a private playground, if you will. 103 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,880 And in Germany, I mean, I'm not saying that this doesn't exist in Germany, but I think 104 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,960 it's way more rare, I guess. 105 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Yeah. 106 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,720 And I think there's way less home ownership, especially in the east of Germany. 107 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,000 I guess that's an overall difference. 108 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,840 I definitely want to make sure that we cover this next thing that I'm going to go ahead 109 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,840 and move us on to in Germany. 110 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,760 And I don't know about the rest of Europe, but definitely in Germany, there is this tradition 111 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:39,100 of every kid starting his or her first day of school, they get this massive, really cool 112 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:40,880 cone of stuff. 113 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Marco, would you like to tell us about this tradition that is really popular in Germany? 114 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,580 Just describe what it is and what kind of stuff goes inside of this cone for a kid's 115 00:07:52,580 --> 00:07:54,040 first day of school. 116 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:00,260 I must say, I'm not even sure where that tradition comes from and what it really means. 117 00:08:00,260 --> 00:08:04,340 But yeah, what it is, is you get a, it's literally a cone. 118 00:08:04,340 --> 00:08:06,160 What is the German term for it? 119 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Sucrotüte, it literally is like sugar bag or something, because it's usually full of 120 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,200 little gifts and usually a lot of candy. 121 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,160 What kinds of candy go inside? 122 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Can you remember what you got for yours? 123 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Oh, wow. 124 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 I know that was forever ago. 125 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,280 I don't know. 126 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,720 I would assume just the regular stuff that you would have. 127 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Anything that they sell, anything that was popular. 128 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,960 So the usual kind of brands of chocolate, gummy bears and... 129 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Haribo? 130 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:36,960 Haribo? 131 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Haribo. 132 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Haribo. 133 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,960 You know what? 134 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,240 When I was thinking of this episode, I actually was thinking of the stereotypes of German 135 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,920 kids that I used to think. 136 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:52,780 I used to think that German kids would always be outside of school eating Haribo gummy bears 137 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:55,080 for some reason and wearing Leiderhosen. 138 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,560 Yeah, that couldn't be farther from the truth. 139 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,760 Yeah, so that's what I mean by stereotype. 140 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,760 I don't know. 141 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,160 It was just this really crazy image. 142 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 But anyway, I'm taking us off track. 143 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,440 I can't speak for Bavarian kids. 144 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,440 I don't know. 145 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,440 They might dress in Leiderhosen. 146 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,520 We might need to ask people in Munich. 147 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Yeah. 148 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,080 I have never worn Leiderhosen to this day. 149 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Yeah, so that says a lot. 150 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,040 So it's definitely a stereotype. 151 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,040 29 years and counting. 152 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,040 No Leiderhosen. 153 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,160 Well, that's going to change one of these years. 154 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,160 Other candy. 155 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,440 Is there anything else? 156 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Kinder branded chocolate. 157 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Oh, yeah. 158 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,680 I don't remember if we have that in the US, but I do know that the... 159 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:34,680 Yeah, you do. 160 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:35,960 Oh, but the Kinder eggs are banned. 161 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,440 The Kinder eggs are banned, yeah. 162 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,440 For some reason. 163 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,440 I don't remember. 164 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:47,320 Well, the reason is there's a little toy on the inside and America feels that it is way... 165 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,320 It's a choking hazard. 166 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,320 Yeah, it's a choking hazard. 167 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,440 It's way too close to the food and it kills children. 168 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,560 I know it's legal in Canada. 169 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:57,160 So the Canadians get it, but we don't? 170 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,840 The Canadians get it, but yeah, Americans don't. 171 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Oh, wow, no. 172 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Not as cool as we really thought. 173 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Well, different priorities here. 174 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,160 I mean, Kinder eggs are dangerous, but guns aren't, I guess. 175 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Oh, yeah. 176 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,160 That's a whole other topic. 177 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,120 And we're going to get to that in another episode. 178 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:18,520 Let's move on now to talking about food and candy and sweets and fun stuff. 179 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Because I'm really curious, at least in terms of Germany and in terms of you growing up, 180 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:32,960 what are some candies and sweets that you remember loving and eating and enjoying as a kid? 181 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Like certain German candies, German sweets, if you had some specifics that you ate a lot 182 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,520 of. 183 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Well, I think it's kind of the same as we discussed earlier with the first day of school. 184 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,920 You know, those kind of... 185 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,280 So you need to remind us again what that is. 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:57,080 You know, gummy bears, chocolate in various forms, either just bars of chocolate or filled 187 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,720 chocolate or those Kinder eggs. 188 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,360 And I think that's the thing that we did have some American stuff, like anything that was 189 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 like Mars and M&Ms and stuff. 190 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,840 Is Mars American, though? 191 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,040 I thought that was a British brand. 192 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,040 I could be wrong. 193 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,280 I think Mars is... 194 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,840 I did not grow up with Mars. 195 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,680 Well, like this whole company, like Mars and Snickers and M&Ms. 196 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:20,000 That's one company. 197 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,680 And Twix and whatever. 198 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:22,680 Three Musketeers. 199 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:23,920 I don't know if you know that. 200 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,680 No, three Musketeers we didn't have. 201 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:26,680 Do you know Milky Way? 202 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:27,680 Oh, yeah. 203 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,960 Okay, it's kind of like Milky Way, except there is no caramel inside. 204 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Yeah. 205 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,720 I ate way too much candy growing up. 206 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,720 I did too. 207 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,720 Way too much. 208 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,000 No, well, you know, I loved Starburst, which to this day, that is like my favorite candy. 209 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 We didn't have that. 210 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,020 Starburst are similar to Mamba, I guess in some way. 211 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:49,560 And I don't know, what else did I like growing up or what else did other kids like growing 212 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:50,560 up? 213 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:53,580 I mean, Hershey's is a chocolate brand here that's really popular. 214 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:57,400 But I know that you personally don't like it because you're like, this is not real chocolate. 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,120 Well, I mean, I don't want to. 216 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,000 German chocolate objectively is better. 217 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,240 Well, let's say European chocolate, not just German. 218 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:09,360 But yeah, I mean, I think if I can choose between some European brand versus Hershey's, 219 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,280 I would go with the European brand. 220 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,960 No offense, America. 221 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,480 What about your favorite snacks? 222 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:20,240 So when you'd come home from school or daycare, are there any snacks or foods that you remember 223 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,240 eating or that your mom would put out for you? 224 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Having cake or pie in the afternoon was like a thing. 225 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:36,720 So I ate a lot of pie, like plum pie and chocolate pie slash cake. 226 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 That was a smattering of others. 227 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,680 So yeah, but there was a lot of pie growing up. 228 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:48,040 That is a very German thing, having cake and I guess either tea or coffee in the afternoon. 229 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,320 But as a kid, I guess you can't really have coffee. 230 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,080 We wouldn't have coffee, but we will tea. 231 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Do kids drink tea? 232 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Oh, yeah, sure. 233 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Why would we not have tea? 234 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,360 I don't know, maybe just being here in the US. 235 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,560 I just personally don't remember children drinking tea. 236 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,440 So what did you drink instead? 237 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,440 Soda? 238 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,440 Yeah, it was either. 239 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Yeah, it was either honestly, it was either soda or it was like I used to really love 240 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,200 milk with and sounds kind of gross. 241 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,200 You want to tell me? 242 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,560 No, kids can't cannot have tea, but they can have coke. 243 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,280 Oh, yeah, that's so much better. 244 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Healthy. 245 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,800 But no, I mean, I personally didn't drink a lot of that. 246 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,800 But I always liked having strawberry milk in the afternoons, which it was just like 247 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 literally plain milk. 248 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:40,200 And I would put strawberry syrup in it and it would make this strawberry milk. 249 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,000 You had quite a sophisticated upbringing. 250 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Oh, yes, I did. 251 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Or chocolate milk. 252 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,800 I mean, look, I can't I can't I can't speak on behalf of 80 million people. 253 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,260 But on a general note, yeah, no, we. 254 00:13:54,260 --> 00:13:55,720 No strawberry milk. 255 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,720 No chocolate milk. 256 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Maybe maybe. 257 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,560 But I'm just saying for us like pies and pie in the afternoon. 258 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:05,440 Yeah, that definitely is not an American childhood thing that I remember. 259 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,400 I just remember coming home and I would eat fruit snacks. 260 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,100 Do you know what fruit snacks are? 261 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:13,880 Those little packets of fruit gummies. 262 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:19,200 And I mean, they're deemed to be healthy, but so it's not an actual fruit. 263 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,400 No, it's not. 264 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,440 I would eat that. 265 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,080 I would eat graham crackers. 266 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,080 I would eat chips. 267 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,120 I mean, I would have just had an actual apple. 268 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,120 How about that? 269 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,600 I think I had actual fruit, but I'm saying this is like what a lot of American kids eat. 270 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Yeah, we're not the healthiest nation, obviously. 271 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,160 But that's no secret. 272 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:43,180 Speaking of unhealthy, every kid loves a fast food place or loves a certain place to go 273 00:14:43,180 --> 00:14:48,960 out and play on the playground or go and eat some ice cream or have a happy meal. 274 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,520 So did you have a place? 275 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,520 McDonald's. 276 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Yeah, McDonald's. 277 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,520 It was McDonald's. 278 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 And having a happy meal was definitely a thing. 279 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Not just McDonald's, but other fast food places. 280 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,880 So did you grow up with any other fast food place? 281 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Over the years, things have become more and more Americanized, but the only two that I 282 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,520 can remember growing up, and especially as a kid where I really liked going there, it 283 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,400 was either McDonald's or Burger King. 284 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,480 The two American places. 285 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Well, that was the only fast food place, because there is no fast food otherwise in Germany. 286 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,720 The whole concept of fast food is American. 287 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,400 I don't think they do that anymore, but at the time, you could even have kids' birthday 288 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:37,880 parties at McDonald's and they had separate rooms where they had a big swimming pool full 289 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,560 of little plastic balls. 290 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Oh, that! 291 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,560 Yeah, ball pit. 292 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Yeah, ball pit. 293 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,560 I remember that. 294 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,560 I remember that too. 295 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,560 I used to love that as a kid. 296 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Oh, that was so fun. 297 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Yeah, we were totally indoctrinated by America through McDonald's. 298 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,040 I think every country in the world, except for Bosnia. 299 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,560 Random fact, did you know that in Bosnia, there is no McDonald's? 300 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,320 McDonald's was never successful for some reason in Bosnia. 301 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Yeah, kind of weird. 302 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,360 That's random. 303 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Really random. 304 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,680 So I guess every country except Bosnia has adopted McDonald's. 305 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,320 They've had other issues, but not having McDonald's is not one of them. 306 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,800 I think. 307 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,680 I would agree with that. 308 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,560 Alex talked about holidays and vacations. 309 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:28,640 So whenever you had summer break, every year when you were a kid, where are some of the 310 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,920 places that you and your family would travel to? 311 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Because here, being in Georgia, many families, if not like most families, just go to Florida 312 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,560 because Florida is not considered super, super hard to get to. 313 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,760 And also there are beaches. 314 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,600 And that's like the main place where everyone goes to. 315 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,080 People didn't go abroad 20 years ago. 316 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,280 How long was summer break? 317 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,480 That's a good question. 318 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,240 So summer break for us, I've heard these days it's getting shorter and shorter for kids, 319 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,320 and that's very sad. 320 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,360 But when I was in school, summer break, I think was two months. 321 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,040 So eight weeks? 322 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,040 About eight weeks. 323 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,040 For us it was six weeks. 324 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,040 But you did have a lot of other breaks. 325 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,680 We had breaks in between. 326 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,420 Our summer, so I mean, we would start earlier than the rest of the country. 327 00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:25,480 So we would, our summer break started at the end of May and we would begin school again 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,440 at the beginning of August. 329 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,740 So I don't know what it is today, but apparently it's less time. 330 00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:32,740 Going on vacation. 331 00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:39,600 Yeah, usually during the summer, popular destinations, if it was within Germany, you would go to, 332 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,640 I don't think we've heard, we ever did that. 333 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,560 But many people would drive to the Baltic Sea, to the Baltic coast, or the North Sea 334 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,040 for that matter. 335 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:55,920 And other than that, yeah, you either drive or fly to places like Italy. 336 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:02,360 So not like the cities, but also kind of vacation kind of areas where you just have beaches. 337 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:06,180 Or Croatia is a popular one. 338 00:18:06,180 --> 00:18:11,600 And then also Spain, especially the islands, Mallorca is like, may as well be a German 339 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,600 colony. 340 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,200 About to say Mallorca is basically like a, I mean, it's like a German island. 341 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Why is it not Germany at this point? 342 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,400 Well, it's like half German, half English. 343 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,520 So the English felt like I was in Germany when I was in Mallorca. 344 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,840 The British also go there. 345 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Oh, I know. 346 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Oh, I know they do. 347 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,120 So there's like even, you could say there's territories, like very British and very German. 348 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,960 Anyway, so that is where you would fly. 349 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,580 So that's like a two hour flight to Mallorca. 350 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:39,640 So yeah, that's where you would go for like a week or two with your parents. 351 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,480 Also just like resort kind of hotels. 352 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,840 I wouldn't say much different from what people do here. 353 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,960 And also the other time you would meet your friends at like public city swimming pools. 354 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,160 Yeah, I guess that's that sums up the summer. 355 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,000 Just not thinking about school was always just depressing thinking, oh man, it's over. 356 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,680 I have to go back to school. 357 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,680 Yeah. 358 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,240 So aside from going to Florida and going, oh, I mean, I think we also go to South Carolina 359 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,240 because there are some beaches there too. 360 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,360 Well, given how big the US is, I think most people just stay. 361 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,600 They stay kind of close to where they live. 362 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:22,080 And also, well, in my specific case, my family has a lake property that has been passed on 363 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,760 in my family for a couple of generations, but that is not like a common thing for a 364 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,840 lot of people to have. 365 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,280 They don't just have a summer lake house to go swim at in the summer. 366 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:41,640 My impression is that here it is more common to have some sort of second summer property 367 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,360 than it is in Germany. 368 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:50,840 Now let's talk about some favorite TV shows that you may have had growing up. 369 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:57,640 So during your childhood, what were some of your favorite shows or cartoons that you remember? 370 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Like age 10 and under is what I'm thinking. 371 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,680 I mean, generally speaking, by the time I was growing up, it was very heavily Americanized 372 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,680 already. 373 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:15,800 So anything, doesn't matter if it was movies or shows, most stuff was dubbed American cartoons. 374 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,460 What I loved, and I don't even know why I loved it because it's so stupid, but I still 375 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:21,460 loved it. 376 00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:26,200 And I even watch it today sometimes is SpongeBob SquarePants. 377 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,920 SpongeBob, Bubbity Bob. 378 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Yeah, really. 379 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,920 Thank you America for that stupidest thing ever, but it was good. 380 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,920 Or it is good. 381 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:35,920 Yes. 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,280 I also really love SpongeBob or yeah, loved and love present tense. 383 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:46,520 When I was, let's say five years old, maybe that kind of age, I liked Bob the Builder. 384 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,880 Bob the Builder was good. 385 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,880 And then there was this, and I don't know why I liked it so much. 386 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,280 I think that was an English, actually an English show. 387 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Thomas the, whatever, how did you call it here? 388 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,480 I don't actually remember the proper name here. 389 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,480 It's like- 390 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,480 It was Locomotive, Locomotives with faces. 391 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Yeah, it's Thomas the Choo Choo Train. 392 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,280 It's like a blue train and his name is Thomas. 393 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,280 I think that was English. 394 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,280 I think that was an English show. 395 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,400 It may have been. 396 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,320 I don't remember that specifically. 397 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,320 Now as for me, I liked all the really stupid shows. 398 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,400 I really was obsessed with the Teletubbies. 399 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,400 I hated them. 400 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,400 I like the Teletubbies. 401 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,080 We had them too and they were tremendously popular, but even at age, I don't know, four 402 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,200 or five or whatever, I felt my intelligence insulted. 403 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,400 I could not stand it. 404 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Even as a kid, I was like, what is this? 405 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,840 What even is this? 406 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Yeah. 407 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,840 No. 408 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,840 Like what am I watching? 409 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,840 I hated it. 410 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,360 I also love Barney the Purple Dinosaur, but I don't know if that ever made it to Europe. 411 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:43,960 That was a very big 90s. 412 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,960 Maybe. 413 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,480 I'm not sure, but I didn't want, no, I don't think I watched that. 414 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Yeah. 415 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,480 I mean, there was that. 416 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,080 There was Kim Possible, which I used to play that on the computer. 417 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,080 I liked that too. 418 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,080 Yeah, Kim Possible. 419 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,520 Caillou, I think you've mentioned that to me before. 420 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Also, one of the weirdest things to come out of Canada. 421 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Disney. 422 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Were there any German cartoons or any German? 423 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,960 Okay. 424 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Aside from Bounce des Prod, which I want to ask you about in a minute. 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,920 We'll tell people about this. 426 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,440 Well, that is not a kids show per se. 427 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:20,480 If you don't know what Bounce des Prod is, it's a crazy cartoon. 428 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Look it up. 429 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,200 It is a grumpy loaf of bread with limbs and a face. 430 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,640 No, it's more like a grumpy piece of bread with human hands as arms. 431 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,800 And it literally just flops and flops and it's angry all the time. 432 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,800 I'm like, why? 433 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,140 But it's not really a kids show. 434 00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:46,720 But it's still like technically is shown on the kids channel at night time. 435 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,600 To kind of bridge the gap between the last show and the first show. 436 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,880 So yeah, but that's a whole different story. 437 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,560 That is so weird. 438 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:03,200 There were shows, American shows that were adopted, there was a separate German production. 439 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:11,180 For example, Sesame Street had a, I think certain parts of it were specially produced 440 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:14,140 for Germany with like German stuff. 441 00:23:14,140 --> 00:23:17,440 But yeah, it was after all, it was still an American show. 442 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,760 So I think it was by, yeah, really when it comes to cartoons and kids shows, it was very, 443 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,640 very, very international already. 444 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Didn't realize that. 445 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,640 Just dubbed. 446 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,640 Everything was just dubbed in German. 447 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,120 But you didn't have Mr. Rogers. 448 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,480 Like that was such a good kids show. 449 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,480 I mean- 450 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,480 What is Mr. Rogers? 451 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,920 Mr. Oh, what is that? 452 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,240 A day in the neighborhood with Mr. Rogers. 453 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Okay. 454 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:43,880 He was this older man who would basically teach hard lessons to children through TV and 455 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,880 puppets. 456 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,880 About like science and stuff? 457 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,160 No, that was Bill Nye the science guy. 458 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,160 Okay. 459 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,840 No, no, you have to look up Mr. Fred Rogers. 460 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,640 We had a German accrual into that. 461 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,640 Yeah. 462 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Like a guy who's teaching you the hard lessons of life to children. 463 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,920 And I mean, talking about divorce, talking about war, talking about stuff. 464 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,920 Oh wow. 465 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,880 Oh yeah, no, he talked about the real shit. 466 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,980 Of course Americans would be, would grow up with war. 467 00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:07,980 Of course. 468 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:12,280 We did have a show that was kind of, what was it Bill, some science- 469 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Bill Nye the science guy. 470 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,160 We had a similar one called Peter Lustig. 471 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,760 I've never heard of that. 472 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,760 What is that? 473 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,760 It was a guy who- 474 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Peter Losen. 475 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,760 Lustig. 476 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,760 Lustig. 477 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Which is a fake name. 478 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Lustig means funny. 479 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,760 It was basically Peter funny. 480 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,760 I'm Peter funny. 481 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Yeah. 482 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,760 And he- 483 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Laugh at me. 484 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,640 And it was about science stuff. 485 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,640 Like how does, I don't know- 486 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,400 How do you build a chemical reaction? 487 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,320 I barely watched it, I must say. 488 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Oh yeah, there was like one cartoon, but also kind of educational. 489 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,600 It was called Die Sendung mit der Maus. 490 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,200 I think it still exists. 491 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,380 Die Sendung mit der Maus literally means the broadcast with the mouse. 492 00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:53,520 This is how creative we are. 493 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Never heard of it. 494 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,680 And now I need to look that up later. 495 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,680 I think it still exists. 496 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,560 They still, it's also very educational. 497 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,560 They show how- 498 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,360 So a mouse teaches kids? 499 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:07,360 It's an orange, red, yeah, it's like an orange cartoon mouse. 500 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,360 We have our own fair share of weirdness. 501 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:10,360 Yes. 502 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:15,960 Now, one of the last things that I will ask before we start wrapping up today is what 503 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,080 are some things you miss the most about being a kid and being young? 504 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,080 Well what do you miss? 505 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,080 I don't know. 506 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,680 Like, I mean, I miss maybe sometimes just the lack of obligation. 507 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Just you know, no, there's no real consequence. 508 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,640 You can just, you know, you're just lazy and play your video games and that's it. 509 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800 Oh, I miss quite a few things actually. 510 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,480 I mean, I miss how innocent life was. 511 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,240 I miss how like you didn't care what anyone thought of you. 512 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,480 And if someone didn't really like you, then you just kind of went on about your life, 513 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,640 playing on the playground, recess time, having grandparents who were still alive. 514 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Oh yeah. 515 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Because I mean, yeah, it's just, you think of that time in your life when you still had 516 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,320 a grandparent or family member, my great grandparents. 517 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:07,520 I think about, yeah, my swinging on the swing, playing in my sandbox, playing catch. 518 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,480 I mean, I miss a lot of things as much as I love technology. 519 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,240 I do miss the times when people would actually speak more with each other and not pay attention 520 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560 to their phones, stuff like that. 521 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:24,160 Yeah, I did like the world with, you know, that is not overly digitized. 522 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,440 Even though I was so big into video games and playing Game Boy and whatever. 523 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,120 I think like these days when you look at kids, every almost every infant has like a tablet. 524 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:35,120 Yeah. 525 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,000 And that's kind of sad in a lot of ways. 526 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,280 So we don't have that. 527 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,400 Yeah, kids aren't playing outside as much as they used to. 528 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,960 I played outside a lot. 529 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,440 I played outside very little, but that was because I was just such a homebody and just 530 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,440 playing video games. 531 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,400 But also, like, I mean, I had a yard and I had like, yeah, but still, still that was 532 00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:00,160 to me, still there would have been so much opportunity to go out and play with neighbor 533 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,160 kids and whatever. 534 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,760 But I was always very reluctant to go. 535 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040 I was always kind of playing video games. 536 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,080 I mean, I had a couple of neighborhood friends who I would play with, but and I would occasionally 537 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,720 have like someone from school come over and play like at home. 538 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,520 But otherwise, yeah, I mean, I didn't venture out that adventurously either. 539 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Grounding me was not a punishment. 540 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,120 My parents would have, you know, I had to take take away my my video games. 541 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:29,120 That would have been a punishment. 542 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,900 But grounding me, you're not going outside. 543 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,440 That would have been a reward rather than a punishment. 544 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,320 You know, that's just that is just so funny. 545 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Yeah, I didn't miss anything. 546 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:46,000 I I think despite the fact that, you know, I grew up in apartments that were not very 547 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,680 spacious, despite the fact that I'm a child of divorce, despite the fact that I grew up 548 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,640 in a city that's not the most popular and greatest city on earth. 549 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,520 I had a I had a pretty great childhood. 550 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,520 I did, too. 551 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,480 I also had a very fortunate sheltered childhood. 552 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:12,800 No drugs, no alcoholism, no abuse, no bad stuff. 553 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,560 So in that sense, yeah, we were both very fortunate. 554 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Yeah, definitely. 555 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,600 This now wraps up our childhood and growing up in Germany versus America episode. 556 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:29,040 As I say at the end of each and every episode, if you enjoyed what you heard and took something 557 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:35,100 valuable away, please give this show a five star review and share it with anyone you know, 558 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:40,480 who you believe could use some Ameropian entertainment and insight in 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