WEBVTT 00:00:07.150 --> 00:00:11.150 Welcome back to At Sixes and Sevens. I'm Rio. 00:00:11.830 --> 00:00:15.310 And I am Tommy. Tonight, we're diving into the 00:00:15.310 --> 00:00:19.850 haunting, unresolved mystery of Brandon Swanson's 00:00:19.850 --> 00:00:23.829 disappearance. A case that will send chills down 00:00:23.829 --> 00:00:26.449 your spine and leave you with more questions 00:00:26.449 --> 00:00:31.109 than answers. But, before we do, Rio, we've got 00:00:31.109 --> 00:00:35.549 something new, haven't we? Oh, we do. Introducing... 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:39.880 guess the case we're we're gonna try and do something 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:43.700 new um this episode and it turns out if it turns 00:00:43.700 --> 00:00:45.960 out good and yous enjoy it then we will continue 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:48.920 doing it but it's basically a new segment yeah 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.280 yeah it's gonna be a way of us hinting what our 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.859 next episode is going to be or episode after 00:00:55.859 --> 00:00:59.039 that what's coming in the next few episodes yeah 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.399 so basically throughout this episode we will 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:08.430 be giving you hints of a famous case and through 00:01:08.430 --> 00:01:11.590 this hints we will later on reveal the answer 00:01:11.590 --> 00:01:17.290 but you know giving you clues um gets gets gives 00:01:17.290 --> 00:01:21.170 you a chance to uh guess the case and if you 00:01:21.170 --> 00:01:25.129 guess it correctly correctly let us know no cheating 00:01:25.129 --> 00:01:29.629 okay you don't win anything apart from the satisfaction 00:01:29.629 --> 00:01:37.079 of a clap one Singular clap. Yep. Nothing else. 00:01:37.099 --> 00:01:41.079 Just one single, just sorted. That's it. Are 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:46.719 you ready for clue one? Yeah! Clue one. This 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.000 case involves a young person who disappeared 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.019 after a seemingly innocent phone call for help. 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:56.379 And that is all we're giving you. We're going 00:01:56.379 --> 00:01:59.079 to go through kind of segments and then we'll 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.879 come back to this. But for now, that's kind of 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.900 all we're giving you. So, if you can guess it 00:02:04.900 --> 00:02:09.000 from that, fair fucking play. But then again... 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.259 You'll get two claps. So, this case involves 00:02:12.259 --> 00:02:14.300 a young person who disappeared after a seemingly 00:02:14.300 --> 00:02:17.340 innocent phone call for help. Oh, yeah. That's 00:02:17.340 --> 00:02:21.639 basically Brandon Swanson. But... It's not. I 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.000 think we need to introduce the scene. Let's do 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.199 it. Set the scene. Speaking of Brandon Swanson... 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:32.789 The story... Yes, exactly. the story of brandon 00:02:32.789 --> 00:02:38.349 swanson who the fuck was brandon swanson so here's 00:02:38.349 --> 00:02:42.050 a couple of facts brandon swanson was a 19 year 00:02:42.050 --> 00:02:46.330 old college student from a small town of marshall 00:02:46.330 --> 00:02:52.069 minnesota on the night of may 14th 2008 so it's 00:02:52.069 --> 00:02:56.840 fairly recent but not too far He mysteriously 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.960 vanished without a trace after driving into a 00:02:59.960 --> 00:03:04.800 ditch. Despite an extensive search, no evidence, 00:03:04.979 --> 00:03:08.639 not even his car keys, wallet, any piece of clothing 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:13.400 has ever been found. Wait, did you say May 14th, 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:17.840 2008? I did indeed. That is the day my brother 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.599 was born. The exact day, exact year, exact month. 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.159 He was born in 2008. Yeah, my younger brother. 00:03:25.300 --> 00:03:32.120 14th of May, 2008. What? Really? Yeah. Oh, shit. 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.520 Well, happy born day, I guess. But why is this 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.319 case so baffling, you know? Um... Personally, 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.180 I don't know. I've got a couple of facts, and... 00:03:44.180 --> 00:03:48.139 So, from what I know, the thing that makes me 00:03:48.139 --> 00:03:51.939 very, very confused is... Right. He ended up 00:03:51.939 --> 00:03:54.719 in a ditch. He made a phone call to his dad. 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:57.280 He started walking towards some town lights. 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:02.500 Yeah. And then just screamed, oh shit, hung up 00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:07.219 the phone, and was never seen again. What? Just 00:04:07.219 --> 00:04:11.020 went, oh shit, and then just nothing? Mm -hmm. 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:17.259 Out of all the last words that you get, those 00:04:17.259 --> 00:04:20.439 two have got to be the scariest things, if you're 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.910 on the other side anyway. Yeah, if you're on 00:04:22.910 --> 00:04:25.529 a phone to someone and you hear, oh, shit, in 00:04:25.529 --> 00:04:27.689 the hang -up, you're like, what the fuck just 00:04:27.689 --> 00:04:30.029 happened? Anything could have happened, then. 00:04:32.189 --> 00:04:35.069 Like, from Superman abducting him to an angry 00:04:35.069 --> 00:04:38.769 bird attacking him, like... Mm -hmm. The impossible 00:04:38.769 --> 00:04:42.810 could be possible. But, obviously, we don't know, 00:04:42.810 --> 00:04:46.410 and still the case, like, it's unresolved, so, 00:04:46.550 --> 00:04:48.730 you know... You know what would be scarier than, 00:04:48.790 --> 00:04:55.759 oh, shit? oh hey dad yeah i was gonna say like 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.920 if you're on if you're on the phone to your dad 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:03.160 right and all of a sudden the person like the 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:05.360 person that's on the phone to their dad says 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:10.480 oh dad hi and they hang up like that'd be scary 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.160 it'd be something like oh i didn't know you were 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:14.339 right in front of me i'll just put the phone 00:05:14.339 --> 00:05:18.279 down yeah that'd be terrifying fucking skinwalker 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:22.319 oh Okay, I was thinking more of a copycat more 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:25.680 than a skinwalker. Yeah, I mean, skinwalkers 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.439 apparently walk the earth now. I mean, yeah, 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:31.819 the impossible is possible, like I said. Either 00:05:31.819 --> 00:05:34.779 way, this case is so... Is that a poltergeist 00:05:34.779 --> 00:05:37.720 that mimics different people? Or is that a mimic? 00:05:37.819 --> 00:05:41.620 It's a mimic. Well, phantom mimic, I'm not sure. 00:05:42.300 --> 00:05:45.139 Until we're professionals at phasmophobia. Yeah, 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.500 so let's go back to why the case is so baffling. 00:05:48.779 --> 00:05:52.319 Unlike... many disappearances obviously brandon 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:54.620 was actively talking to his parents on the phone 00:05:54.620 --> 00:05:57.480 moments before he vanished as obviously we kind 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:02.139 of mentioned um like rio said amazingly uh his 00:06:02.139 --> 00:06:05.860 last known words were oh and shit um followed 00:06:05.860 --> 00:06:09.019 by complete silence and the phone ending between 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:12.560 the uh the oh and the shit there was a comma 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:20.709 oh yeah no so it fuck you punctuation You might 00:06:20.709 --> 00:06:22.589 as well add the exclamation mark as well, you 00:06:22.589 --> 00:06:27.329 fucking idiot. True. You forgot the quotation 00:06:27.329 --> 00:06:33.350 marks, dumbass. Fuck you. The case itself remains 00:06:33.350 --> 00:06:36.089 unsolved, making it one of the strangest missing 00:06:36.089 --> 00:06:39.230 person cases in modern history, which obviously 00:06:39.230 --> 00:06:42.990 we always say, but it is true. It still baffles 00:06:42.990 --> 00:06:45.029 everybody to this day. Absolutely. Including 00:06:45.029 --> 00:06:49.629 me. And moi. Which in French literally translates 00:06:49.629 --> 00:06:56.829 to me. And now for the guess the case clue two. 00:06:57.329 --> 00:07:02.149 We're interrupting. Yes, let's go. Can I do number 00:07:02.149 --> 00:07:05.310 two? Maybe you? Sure. If you want a bathroom 00:07:05.310 --> 00:07:11.660 break, go ahead. What? Oh, fuck. For fuck's sake. 00:07:11.740 --> 00:07:14.579 It took me like a second just to go. The cogs 00:07:14.579 --> 00:07:15.980 were like turning in my head. I was like, what 00:07:15.980 --> 00:07:19.740 the fuck? Go ahead. You can do number two. Oh, 00:07:19.819 --> 00:07:25.040 yes. Let's listen. Clue number. The case baffled 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:27.759 investigators because the last known trace of 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.759 the person was a series of strange phone calls, 00:07:30.939 --> 00:07:35.040 much like Brandon Swanson's case. That's what 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:36.100 we're literally talking about. Good luck figuring 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:39.839 that one out, fuckers. Like, talking about the 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:43.720 last phone call and how it ended. A lot of these 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.579 cases, I guess, involve phone calls. I wonder 00:07:47.579 --> 00:07:48.720 what we're going to do next. Are we going to 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:53.459 go to Scream? Absolutely, absolutely. But let's 00:07:53.459 --> 00:07:57.740 get into the timeline of events. You know, the 00:07:57.740 --> 00:08:06.319 night of May 13th to 14th. 2008 so timeline and 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.480 events uh my mother went to the hospital on may 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.100 12th gave birth to my brother oh shit wrong case 00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:16.819 anyway your brother's not missing but you know 00:08:16.819 --> 00:08:21.399 brandon swanson is yes true okay uh so the party 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:27.100 and brandon's drive home so brandon had just 00:08:27.100 --> 00:08:30.959 finished his first year at minnesota west community 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.740 and Technical College. Oh, damn. Yeah, he's a 00:08:35.740 --> 00:08:40.500 smart boy. Well, it's a community college, so 00:08:40.500 --> 00:08:44.220 he's... Listen, it's Minnesota West Community, 00:08:44.539 --> 00:08:46.519 okay? It could be Central. Oh, okay. Apart from 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.679 the East Community, yes. All right, then. Sorry, 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:57.000 I'm very communist. It's just a myth to be a 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:02.740 communist. I'm a dirty communist. What do you 00:09:02.740 --> 00:09:04.840 call it when somebody's against different communities? 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.879 Oh, that's just racism. Never mind. That's just 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:14.179 straight up racism. Segregation of racism is 00:09:14.179 --> 00:09:17.139 like fucking hell. All right, listen, if you 00:09:17.139 --> 00:09:19.000 go to Minnesota West Community and Technical 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.679 College or any sort of community college, get 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:26.450 on you. We're sorry. Just straight up, we're 00:09:26.450 --> 00:09:34.210 sorry. Just start at OnlyFans at that point. 00:09:34.230 --> 00:09:37.549 You're not going to get past college. Dude, I 00:09:37.549 --> 00:09:41.870 even didn't make it into college. I'm fine. I'll 00:09:41.870 --> 00:09:45.470 show off. Anyway, that night he attended a small 00:09:45.470 --> 00:09:49.990 gathering with friends in Canby, Minnesota. Minnesota, 00:09:50.269 --> 00:09:54.820 even. so he can't be can't be what can he do 00:09:54.820 --> 00:10:06.620 come back be alive well he might not be dead 00:10:06.620 --> 00:10:10.779 exactly i've got high high hopes that he's out 00:10:10.779 --> 00:10:15.059 there being an elvis presley imposter impersonator 00:10:15.059 --> 00:10:19.240 yeah i'd watch that Anyway, talking about Brandon 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:23.360 Yuri. Sorry, Brandon Swanson. So he was at a 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:28.179 party. Yes. And he did not appear intoxicated 00:10:28.179 --> 00:10:30.799 at the party. You know, according to his friends 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.559 who were later questioned by the Polish. So the 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:39.019 car gets stuck. You know, around midnight, Brandon 00:10:39.019 --> 00:10:43.379 left to drive home to Marshall, which is around 00:10:43.379 --> 00:10:47.399 30 miles away from Canby. That's far. That's 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:50.440 like an hour and a bit. So instead of taking 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.200 the usual highway, he took back roads, which, 00:10:54.340 --> 00:10:57.320 you know, it's possible to avoid police, you 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.820 know, if he had been drinking. Not that we condone 00:11:00.820 --> 00:11:03.000 drink driving. If you drunk drive, you're an 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.720 absolute cunt and I fucking hate you. Absolutely. 00:11:05.820 --> 00:11:10.159 Please do not ever, ever drink and drive. Do 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:13.080 not drive under the influence of any alcohol. 00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:17.820 of any drugs of any medications as well so sometimes 00:11:17.820 --> 00:11:19.820 medication can impair your driving side effects 00:11:19.820 --> 00:11:25.320 yeah um so he you know he could have possibly 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.700 taken the back roads to try and avoid you know 00:11:27.700 --> 00:11:32.100 police to try and avoid busy roads um you know 00:11:32.100 --> 00:11:36.360 no confirmed evidence that he was drunk however 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:40.580 it is a possibility he's coming home around one 00:11:40.580 --> 00:11:46.830 in the morning you know oh god So yeah, at around 00:11:46.830 --> 00:11:51.509 1 .15am, Brandon's car got stuck in a ditch on 00:11:51.509 --> 00:11:57.529 a gravel road near the town of Toonton. Is it 00:11:57.529 --> 00:12:01.809 Taunton or Taunton? Taunton, sorry, Taunton. 00:12:01.909 --> 00:12:05.809 Yeah, I was going to say Taunton. So I've seen 00:12:05.809 --> 00:12:09.590 exactly where his car was stuck on a map, right? 00:12:09.669 --> 00:12:13.200 And looking at that road... And let me see if 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.700 I can bring it up. So looking at that road, it 00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:22.580 is a straight road. It is simple to drive. Like, 00:12:22.580 --> 00:12:27.779 if you look at that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. And 00:12:27.779 --> 00:12:31.759 that arrow there is where his car was found. 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.019 That's just a straight road. So in my belief, 00:12:35.220 --> 00:12:40.879 he was probably intoxicated in some way or tired. 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.460 That is a far way off the roads. Yeah. So it's 00:12:46.460 --> 00:12:49.559 as straight as our road can get. It's a gravelly 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:53.559 road, you know, fields on either side and you 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:55.860 got stuck in a ditch. God knows how that happened. 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.480 But you know, shit happens. An animal could have 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.620 ran out. He could have swerved, ended up in a 00:13:00.620 --> 00:13:05.240 ditch. Absolutely. Anything, anything can happen. 00:13:06.019 --> 00:13:09.960 So Brandon then calls his parents for help. um 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.320 you know i've been unable to get his car out 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:16.860 brandon called both his parents to try and get 00:13:16.860 --> 00:13:19.440 assistance to try and get them to help him um 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.779 so he told his parents that he was near lind 00:13:22.779 --> 00:13:26.440 minnesota which is about 10 minutes from his 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:32.379 home it's not far his father brian swanson um 00:13:32.379 --> 00:13:36.620 drove out to find him being on a phone with brandon 00:13:36.620 --> 00:13:40.549 you know and brandon left his car and started 00:13:40.549 --> 00:13:44.529 walking toward what he thought were the lights 00:13:44.529 --> 00:13:48.629 of lind the town uh so his father stayed on the 00:13:48.629 --> 00:13:52.070 phone with him for around 47 minutes trying to 00:13:52.070 --> 00:13:58.529 locate him suddenly at 2 30 a .m just over an 00:13:58.529 --> 00:14:02.750 hour after his crash um brandon's last words 00:14:02.750 --> 00:14:08.779 over the phone were oh shit followed by islands 00:14:08.779 --> 00:14:16.820 so he crashed around like what 1 30 1 15 1 15 00:14:16.820 --> 00:14:22.720 a .m and he was 10 minutes from home why did 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:27.480 it take his dad over 47 minutes to locate him 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:31.679 when it probably would have took what no so so 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:38.379 he was um So Lind, the town, was 10 minutes from 00:14:38.379 --> 00:14:44.519 his home, but Brandon was on his way to Lind. 00:14:46.779 --> 00:14:52.559 No, he told them he was near Lind. Yeah. So that's, 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.379 you know, he was around 15 to 20 minutes. Yeah, 00:14:55.379 --> 00:14:59.980 probably true. So what I'm trying to understand 00:14:59.980 --> 00:15:04.240 is why it took his dad 47 minutes. Why 47 minutes 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.720 in particular? yeah that's very very good point 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.460 because because the drive itself from the party 00:15:11.460 --> 00:15:14.000 to his house would not have taken 47 minutes 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.460 it's too according to my incredible calculations 00:15:17.460 --> 00:15:19.940 it should have taken between 20 and 30 minutes 00:15:19.940 --> 00:15:24.539 max and if he was already no but that no no that's 00:15:24.539 --> 00:15:26.179 not the point i'm trying to make yeah no i'm 00:15:26.179 --> 00:15:29.720 trying to make is why his dad didn't yeah i know 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:34.950 didn't find him within the 47 minutes yeah Yeah, 00:15:34.990 --> 00:15:38.990 exactly. I used to stay on a phone for 47 minutes 00:15:38.990 --> 00:15:42.409 trying to locate them, and then... But surely 00:15:42.409 --> 00:15:44.649 they, you know, if they've lived there for a 00:15:44.649 --> 00:15:47.409 while, they'll know the town of Lind. They'll 00:15:47.409 --> 00:15:49.149 know, oh, I know where you are, you're right 00:15:49.149 --> 00:15:53.129 there. Yeah. Unless they just recently moved 00:15:53.129 --> 00:15:55.669 there, but obviously that's a whole nother fucking 00:15:55.669 --> 00:16:02.169 story. Very, very true. On that note, I am going 00:16:02.169 --> 00:16:09.100 to... Introduce clue three. Do you want to read 00:16:09.100 --> 00:16:11.440 clue three or do you want me to read it? Nah, 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.419 you do it. I'll do the next one. Okay. So, for 00:16:15.419 --> 00:16:19.980 guess the case, this is clue three. The person 00:16:19.980 --> 00:16:24.720 was last seen in a remote area and despite extensive 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:31.539 searches, no remains were found for years. Well, 00:16:31.539 --> 00:16:35.929 that's a spooky one. Mm -hmm. Hmm. What kind 00:16:35.929 --> 00:16:36.990 of remote area? I still don't know what case 00:16:36.990 --> 00:16:42.029 it could be. What kind of remote areas are there? 00:16:43.730 --> 00:16:46.350 Um, well, remote just means completely, like, 00:16:46.429 --> 00:16:51.629 rid of stuff, like, void. There could be, like, 00:16:51.669 --> 00:16:54.730 a field or something. Area, right. Wait, no, 00:16:54.750 --> 00:16:57.429 isn't a remote area, like, a space that's occupied? 00:16:57.509 --> 00:17:01.049 I don't know. Oh, let's go to our remote area. 00:17:01.250 --> 00:17:03.230 No, our remote area is, like, far away from everything. 00:17:03.750 --> 00:17:06.769 Yeah. Like, the ocean would be our remote area. 00:17:07.009 --> 00:17:11.309 Oh, is that a clue? Oh. That clue. And then... 00:17:11.309 --> 00:17:16.049 Oh. Oh, I just get a clue. Now, after that clue, 00:17:16.250 --> 00:17:20.049 I think we just go back to the case. Yeah? Case 00:17:20.049 --> 00:17:24.569 at hand. Absolutely. And go into the nitty -gritty, 00:17:24.630 --> 00:17:27.670 the things that I like. The search efforts, the 00:17:27.670 --> 00:17:31.289 strange finds, the things that make you question 00:17:31.289 --> 00:17:35.029 where the fuck was he? Because, you know, I'm 00:17:35.029 --> 00:17:37.930 still trying to figure out what happened. Cannot 00:17:37.930 --> 00:17:41.170 piece it together. So, this is what we know as 00:17:41.170 --> 00:17:45.809 the facts. Brandon's car was actually found. 00:17:46.470 --> 00:17:51.109 After calling 911, which is the American police 00:17:51.109 --> 00:17:54.730 system, Brandon's parents joined the police in 00:17:54.730 --> 00:17:58.180 searching for him. And obviously this was, what, 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:02.279 probably 2 .30 in the morning when he said, oh 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:06.180 shit. So there was a lot of search parties going 00:18:06.180 --> 00:18:11.619 through and probably even neighbours, neighbourhood 00:18:11.619 --> 00:18:17.160 watch, stuff like that. But nothing was found 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:21.319 until the next morning where they found, obviously, 00:18:21.339 --> 00:18:27.140 his car. It was located 25 miles away. From where 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:31.339 Brandon thought he was. Wait, so that's why it 00:18:31.339 --> 00:18:36.299 took him his dad 47 minutes to find him. Because 00:18:36.299 --> 00:18:38.960 he couldn't find him. Because Brandon was nowhere 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.759 near where he said he was. Which leads me on 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:46.180 to the next point, where his sense of direction 00:18:46.180 --> 00:18:52.339 was completely off. Suggesting confusion, disorientation, 00:18:52.339 --> 00:18:58.769 or intoxication. Absolutely. Yep. I agree. Or 00:18:58.769 --> 00:19:03.390 he was trying to hide something? Would he lie 00:19:03.390 --> 00:19:06.210 about where he was if he didn't want to get found? 00:19:06.349 --> 00:19:12.769 Not to his dad. But in what we know is there 00:19:12.769 --> 00:19:15.490 was no signs of struggle at all. No footprints, 00:19:15.970 --> 00:19:19.609 no blood, no signs of struggle near the car itself. 00:19:20.309 --> 00:19:23.210 It seemed like Brandon had simply just walked 00:19:23.210 --> 00:19:26.450 away. into the darkness of the night and just 00:19:26.450 --> 00:19:31.269 vanished. Bizarre. That really reminds me of, 00:19:31.269 --> 00:19:37.950 um, Maura Murray. Yes, it does, yeah. We will 00:19:37.950 --> 00:19:43.329 100 % cover the future. Oh, we have to. And, 00:19:43.509 --> 00:19:47.930 um, what is it? I can't remember the call. The 00:19:47.930 --> 00:19:53.400 cadaver dogs? The search dogs. I think it is 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:57.059 cadaver dogs. No, fucking no. But the search 00:19:57.059 --> 00:20:01.759 dogs themselves led to a river. So, search dogs 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:07.460 traced the scent from the car to the Yellow Medicine 00:20:07.460 --> 00:20:11.180 River, which was about a mile from, obviously, 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:15.160 where his car was parked. But still, no remains, 00:20:15.420 --> 00:20:18.460 no clothing, no clues were ever found in the 00:20:18.460 --> 00:20:24.150 river. Which, that's a bit... Bizarre. Well, 00:20:24.190 --> 00:20:28.329 more than bizarre. Like, why? He could have just 00:20:28.329 --> 00:20:32.869 went for a piss in the river. And then he slipped, 00:20:32.930 --> 00:20:35.509 and then he said, oh shit, and that's when the 00:20:35.509 --> 00:20:38.710 phone call ended. He fell into the river. Case 00:20:38.710 --> 00:20:42.170 fucking solved. Boom. But then again, it would 00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:44.670 go downstream and find his body at some point. 00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:54.000 You know. Yeah, exactly. It kind of leads on 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:57.920 to the theories, though. And I think I'll let 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:01.519 you go more into that. As I said, you know, I 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:04.119 think he could have possibly went to the river 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:09.460 to publicly urinate into the yellow medicine 00:21:09.460 --> 00:21:12.839 river. Just wanted to make it more yellow, yeah. 00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:16.180 Without the medicine, because if you drink it, 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.500 it's not really good. It's not medicinal, yeah. 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:24.000 think that he could have possibly fell into the 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.220 river and drowned you know the oh shit moment 00:21:27.220 --> 00:21:30.039 could have been him you know slipping into the 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:35.420 water as i said and then i mean as a count but 00:21:35.420 --> 00:21:38.940 the counterpoint nobody no clothing no personal 00:21:38.940 --> 00:21:41.900 belongings were ever found in the river very 00:21:41.900 --> 00:21:44.799 very true but then again don't rivers have like 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.490 some of them have like under ground underwater 00:21:47.490 --> 00:21:49.650 like tunnel systems he could have been sucked 00:21:49.650 --> 00:21:52.150 into one of them and then just stayed underwater 00:21:52.150 --> 00:21:57.250 and his body is still underwater in a cave hmm 00:21:57.250 --> 00:22:00.549 some rivers have that yeah they do it's kind 00:22:00.549 --> 00:22:04.829 of like a different obviously system yeah like 00:22:04.829 --> 00:22:07.809 tunnel way basically yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean 00:22:07.809 --> 00:22:12.269 it could be it could also um be that you know 00:22:12.269 --> 00:22:14.769 some people believe that brandon obviously wandered 00:22:14.769 --> 00:22:18.130 into the wilderness and became disorientated. 00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:22.490 So he could have succumbed to hypothermia, depending 00:22:22.490 --> 00:22:24.910 on, obviously, what the temperatures were, which... 00:22:24.910 --> 00:22:28.710 Wasn't that cold? No, from what sources say, 00:22:28.890 --> 00:22:32.069 they were around 40 degrees Fahrenheit, which, 00:22:32.190 --> 00:22:35.210 for you English people, is 4 degrees Celsius, 00:22:35.369 --> 00:22:39.269 which isn't too cold, but it's still... That's 00:22:39.269 --> 00:22:41.529 basic UK weather. It's frosty. No, but it's still 00:22:41.529 --> 00:22:45.220 frosty. No, frosty's below zero. No, no, no, 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:47.039 no. You get frost on your car at, like, two degrees. 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.660 Oh, really? But then again... So he's kind of 00:22:50.660 --> 00:22:53.640 just above that. Yeah, so frosty, yeah, fair 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:57.640 enough, but not... That's not... Yeah, but you've 00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.420 got the breezes, you've got the cold winds, you've 00:22:59.420 --> 00:23:01.380 got near river as well, so water's going to be 00:23:01.380 --> 00:23:05.700 even colder. I don't think you could get hypothermia. 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.220 Like, plus his body was not found in the area. 00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:09.980 Depends how long he was out there as well, though. 00:23:10.259 --> 00:23:15.009 Yeah. Why would he say, oh, shit, then? If he's 00:23:15.009 --> 00:23:19.970 gone to the hypothermia. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, 00:23:20.009 --> 00:23:21.849 it wouldn't really be fatal, would it? It'd just 00:23:21.849 --> 00:23:24.230 be, like, slight freezing of the hand, maybe 00:23:24.230 --> 00:23:27.750 black and blue. Yeah. But that's the only thing 00:23:27.750 --> 00:23:30.910 I could think about. It's also possible that 00:23:30.910 --> 00:23:35.089 there was, you know, foul play involved. Some 00:23:35.089 --> 00:23:38.309 theories suggest that Brandon may have encountered 00:23:38.309 --> 00:23:43.519 a stranger or a dangerous situation. uh so you 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:45.839 know this could explain his sudden panic before 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.259 the phone call ended um yeah it could have been 00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:55.559 someone for example driving by right and uh they 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.140 didn't say anything they just slowly drove by 00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:01.000 pulled a gun and said get in a fucking car and 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:04.940 brandon's like oh shit hung up got in a car and 00:24:04.940 --> 00:24:07.920 they drove off you no you would have heard it 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.400 like there's no evidence at all of the attack 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.039 there'd be clothing there'd be blood footprints 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.599 something like that and the area the area around 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.380 is kind of rural with a few people around at 00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:22.900 that hour which means there was no evidence because 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:25.059 nobody saw it happen because nobody in the area 00:24:25.059 --> 00:24:28.700 like it could have very well been where it's 00:24:28.700 --> 00:24:31.500 somebody driving by told the gun told them to 00:24:31.500 --> 00:24:33.119 get in the car so there's no sign of struggle 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:37.240 because but you'd hear that on the phone but 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.099 if you didn't say something at least like oh 00:24:39.099 --> 00:24:44.569 there's a weird car pulling up to me Like, I 00:24:44.569 --> 00:24:46.869 wouldn't think anything of it. If I was walking 00:24:46.869 --> 00:24:49.210 alone after that and there's a car driving behind 00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:51.430 me, I wouldn't be like, there's a car driving 00:24:51.430 --> 00:24:57.170 behind me. Yeah. There's so many things that 00:24:57.170 --> 00:24:59.069 obviously could be factored into it. But then 00:24:59.069 --> 00:25:00.769 again, it's a gravel road, so the cars would 00:25:00.769 --> 00:25:06.269 slow down if they'd seen someone. Yeah. I don't 00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:09.880 know. That's my most plausible theory is that 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.279 he was abducted and there was no signs of struggle 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:17.480 because he just got in a car. I think the one 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.039 I'm heading towards is animal attack. Because 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:23.079 obviously Minnesota is known for obviously black 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:28.119 bears, coyotes, cougars, you know, very vicious 00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.640 predators. Though attacks on humans can be rare, 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:35.880 I know that. An animal could have startled him. 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.460 causing him to kind of, like, fall, you know, 00:25:38.500 --> 00:25:42.720 shove backwards and kind of drop his phone. That's 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.400 the only thing I can think of. You would hear 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.500 the animal over the phone. If that was a bear, 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.160 you would fucking hear that thing. Unless it's, 00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:52.480 like, trying to sneak up on you and you're like, 00:25:52.579 --> 00:25:57.960 oh, shit. Bears don't sneak. Neither do coyotes. 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.619 Yeah, they do. That's what they do. Bears? Oh, 00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:04.309 no. They all... Be big, they have to show dominance. 00:26:04.609 --> 00:26:08.210 They're not stealth animals. Yeah, but they wouldn't, 00:26:08.210 --> 00:26:11.430 like, expressively, like, roar. They'd just look 00:26:11.430 --> 00:26:15.150 at you with, like, disgust. Like, I'm about to 00:26:15.150 --> 00:26:18.230 fucking kill you. But then again, there would 00:26:18.230 --> 00:26:23.109 be blood and clothing in his body. Like, a bear's 00:26:23.109 --> 00:26:26.569 not going to clean up a crime scene. Unless he 00:26:26.569 --> 00:26:31.299 just took him as a cub. Like, you've got... brandon 00:26:31.299 --> 00:26:38.180 swanson the bear just fully gone yeah that would 00:26:38.180 --> 00:26:40.160 be true there would be you know evidence there 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:44.759 that suggests an attack which fair enough but 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.039 then there's also the final theory which i'm 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.900 gonna straight up dismiss because personally 00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:53.500 i think this is the stupidest one i think it's 00:26:53.500 --> 00:26:56.960 plausible the amount of people that do that then 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:01.299 yes but I don't think so. Like, so many cases 00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:05.420 end up being solved, or, you know, people figure 00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:08.480 out that the person, nothing happened to them. 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:13.640 They just intentionally disappeared. Yeah, we're 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.599 talking about, kind of, he just chose to run 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.140 away and start a new life, which I don't really 00:27:20.140 --> 00:27:26.039 see plausible. Why not? Well, he had no personal 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:31.539 issues. or reason to disappear voluntarily that 00:27:31.539 --> 00:27:34.880 we know of. You know, his home life was alright. 00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.920 Everything else was perfect. He had a job that 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.019 was stable. He had some great friends around 00:27:42.019 --> 00:27:46.099 him. So I don't see why he'd want to kind of 00:27:46.099 --> 00:27:52.599 disappear just out of the blue. Um... I... think 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.559 that if somebody was having you know personal 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.240 issues or family issues and they disappeared 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.819 the family would not disclose it i think the 00:28:02.819 --> 00:28:05.140 family would be like no it was all good the family 00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:07.200 life was perfect because as soon as the family 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.579 says there was some issues then they would look 00:28:09.579 --> 00:28:14.160 at the family as possible suspects or it would 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.160 give them evidence that he potentially done an 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:24.049 intentional you know I mean, you make a good 00:28:24.049 --> 00:28:28.769 point, but I still don't believe it. Because 00:28:28.769 --> 00:28:30.789 it was the same in Maura Murray's case, where 00:28:30.789 --> 00:28:35.450 her dad withheld so much information about her 00:28:35.450 --> 00:28:39.049 from the police. You know, he said, no, her life 00:28:39.049 --> 00:28:41.150 was perfect, there was no issues, there was no 00:28:41.150 --> 00:28:44.210 problems, da -da -da -da -da, and then sometime 00:28:44.210 --> 00:28:46.089 later it was revealed that actually her life 00:28:46.089 --> 00:28:49.910 was far from perfect. I think we'll get into 00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:51.769 that in another episode. Oh, we absolutely will. 00:28:52.170 --> 00:28:55.609 I think this is very, very similar to Brandon 00:28:55.609 --> 00:29:01.789 Swanson. I don't know. And, similar to the case, 00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:07.089 the clue that we're kind of about. Oh, guess 00:29:07.089 --> 00:29:13.650 the case. Yes. Clue number four. Get eyes on 00:29:13.650 --> 00:29:18.250 the doors. Because the case has been featured 00:29:18.250 --> 00:29:22.599 in countless documentaries. And obviously many 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.779 theories exist and have been speculated. But 00:29:25.779 --> 00:29:30.539 the true story remains unsolved to this day. 00:29:30.980 --> 00:29:34.880 Just like Brandon Swanson. Is it the Cookie Monster's 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.920 missing cookie? Oh, fuck. You can't just give 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:43.740 it away like that. Of course it fucking is. Is 00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:49.410 it elbow? Elbow. It's a fucking elbow. Hi there! 00:29:49.769 --> 00:29:54.990 I'm Elbow! I meant, Elbow's missing thumb. He's 00:29:54.990 --> 00:30:05.250 just a fucking arm. Hello! But, like, right on 00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:07.710 the elbow, the mouth just opens up and it's so 00:30:07.710 --> 00:30:10.109 fucking cursed that it just gives the kids nightmares 00:30:10.109 --> 00:30:15.869 instead. It's a very ashy elbow as well. It's 00:30:15.869 --> 00:30:20.089 not even a nice elbow. There's some, like, eczema 00:30:20.089 --> 00:30:22.990 on it and shit. It's all, like, tattooed and 00:30:22.990 --> 00:30:25.269 just fucking destroyed. It's got, like, one of 00:30:25.269 --> 00:30:27.950 those typical, like, spider webs on it. You know, 00:30:27.950 --> 00:30:29.430 the prisoners got... That's what I was thinking. 00:30:31.329 --> 00:30:33.430 Just a mouth on the end, and he just goes, hi, 00:30:33.490 --> 00:30:39.609 kids. I traumatise you. Lord, avoid it. Right, 00:30:39.910 --> 00:30:41.910 why don't we get into kind of the strange details, 00:30:42.190 --> 00:30:46.720 the good stuff, you know? Sorry, one strange 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.839 detail that was found in his car was that there 00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.319 was a packet of Skittles with exactly seven red, 00:30:54.559 --> 00:31:00.160 three green, and one blue Skittle. Damn, he was 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:05.579 eating the tropical. Fuck, why do I know that? 00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.440 Oh my god. Just for the record, that is not true. 00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:17.390 Or is it? It could be. I could have planted it 00:31:17.390 --> 00:31:22.309 there. No, kind of a real strange detail. Why 00:31:22.309 --> 00:31:25.589 was Brandon so far from where he thought he was? 00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:29.609 That is a strange detail. Yes, that is very true. 00:31:29.769 --> 00:31:32.769 Was he confused? Was his phone reception? Was 00:31:32.769 --> 00:31:36.890 Google Maps or Apple Maps giving false location 00:31:36.890 --> 00:31:39.450 details? To be fair, 2008, you didn't really 00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:41.869 have Google or Apple Maps yet. Oh, no. I mean, 00:31:41.910 --> 00:31:44.210 iPods were released, weren't they? Yeah, but 00:31:44.210 --> 00:31:48.329 they didn't have GIPs. You just called it GIPs, 00:31:48.329 --> 00:31:52.890 and I was like, what the fuck is GIPs? GPS. GIPs. 00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:57.690 Yeah, yeah. They didn't, but they had location 00:31:57.690 --> 00:32:03.430 services, because it's... Like, I remember when 00:32:03.430 --> 00:32:08.680 I was like... I moved to the UK in 2006, so 2008 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.960 is when I start remembering major things. Whenever 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:19.940 we would go on a car ride somewhere, my dad would 00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:23.720 use that old sat -nav. He had a new phone, but 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:29.039 the phone didn't have the navigation, so he had 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.180 to use an actual physical sat -nav in a car. 00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:38.940 So, was Brandon Swanson using a sat -nav? Because 00:32:38.940 --> 00:32:42.359 I don't think he was, because that's his hometown. 00:32:43.859 --> 00:32:46.000 He'd know it like the back of his hand. Yeah. 00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:53.599 Or at least well enough. I did just see, released 00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:58.740 in 2008, was the first Apple iPhone. Oh yeah, 00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:00.160 he definitely didn't have that. Which did include 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.779 maps, but obviously, yeah, he probably didn't 00:33:02.779 --> 00:33:07.140 have that. But yeah, probably didn't have GPS 00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:11.259 or sat -nav. Tom -toms were a thing, but, you 00:33:11.259 --> 00:33:14.079 know, like you said, he might have just known 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.039 the route. He might have just been disorientated. 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:23.940 Then again, that makes me ask more questions 00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:27.740 of... How is it possible that he got lost in 00:33:27.740 --> 00:33:31.259 his home area? Because if you were to take me 00:33:31.259 --> 00:33:34.759 somewhere within a 30 mile vicinity of where 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.099 I grew up, I know exactly where I am. If you, 00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:42.980 you know, blindfold over my eyes, drive me out 00:33:42.980 --> 00:33:45.279 to somewhere, spin me until I'm dizzy and then 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.480 leave me, I will find my way back home easily. 00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:53.140 On the next episode of At Sixes and Sevens, we 00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:58.900 disorientate Rio and take him to... Hmm. Somewhere. 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:04.200 Birmingham. That's not... I did not grow up in 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.380 Birmingham! Just take it to Birmingham. What 00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.360 the fuck am I? And why are people around me snorting 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:16.320 coke? No, you know what? We take... We take Ryo 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.440 and we take him to Thailand. Fuck it, we put 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:24.400 him on another continent, like... We take him 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.039 to space. It's like the Hangover movies, where 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:32.039 they ended up... Fucking... They end up in Thailand. 00:34:32.179 --> 00:34:34.099 Just blackout drunk in the middle of Thailand. 00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:36.239 It's like, what the fuck? How did I get here? 00:34:36.940 --> 00:34:41.059 Right. With an Asian man in my freezer. Anyway. 00:34:41.460 --> 00:34:45.550 Sorry. Okay. Which kind of... Speaking of bodies, 00:34:45.610 --> 00:34:49.730 though, why wasn't his body or belongings ever 00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:55.130 found? You know, if he drowned, why wasn't it 00:34:55.130 --> 00:34:58.909 found downstream? That's what I'm thinking. If 00:34:58.909 --> 00:35:02.409 he got murdered by a murder kitty or a bear, 00:35:02.610 --> 00:35:06.570 why was his stuff not found in a forest or area 00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:10.989 nearby? No blood, no traces of anything at all. 00:35:11.369 --> 00:35:14.809 What happened? Where'd he go? Another question 00:35:14.809 --> 00:35:17.610 we could ask is what caused his final reaction? 00:35:17.789 --> 00:35:22.150 Like the, oh shit. Yeah, right. That's like such 00:35:22.150 --> 00:35:26.329 a confusing last two words to say before you 00:35:26.329 --> 00:35:31.030 vanish off the face of the earth. He could have 00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:36.449 seen an alien. Well. Someone could have grabbed 00:35:36.449 --> 00:35:40.090 his ass and squeezed it. And it's like, oh shit. 00:35:42.789 --> 00:35:45.050 He's just really horny. He's just like, oh, shit. 00:35:45.929 --> 00:35:48.489 Yeah. They didn't say the context of what the 00:35:48.489 --> 00:35:52.489 oh, shit was like. That's true. It was oh, comma, 00:35:52.530 --> 00:35:56.409 shit, explanation mark. It could have been a 00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.309 good oh, shit. It could have just came on the 00:35:59.309 --> 00:36:02.769 side. It could have just been having a fucking 00:36:02.769 --> 00:36:09.789 toss and just went, oh, shit. Oh shit, I'm about 00:36:09.789 --> 00:36:15.690 to burst. Oh lord, I'm about to burst. Oh my 00:36:15.690 --> 00:36:20.230 god. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it was 00:36:20.230 --> 00:36:25.389 a, like, proper oh shit out of fear. No, yeah, 00:36:25.489 --> 00:36:28.489 it must have been. I think he knew he was going 00:36:28.489 --> 00:36:33.969 to die. Like, did he hear something? Did he step 00:36:33.969 --> 00:36:36.829 into something? Or, like, fall into something? 00:36:37.030 --> 00:36:40.050 Like, those rivers? the underpasses you say like 00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:43.969 something like that but then another thing would 00:36:43.969 --> 00:36:48.429 be his phone wouldn't hang up it would hear yeah 00:36:48.429 --> 00:36:50.750 you would hear him fall into the river whereas 00:36:50.750 --> 00:36:53.409 he said oh shit and then immediately hung up 00:36:53.409 --> 00:36:59.230 which only if there was an impact of some kind 00:36:59.230 --> 00:37:02.250 because obviously if the phone got impacted and 00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:07.369 broke then that makes sense yeah or he was in 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.440 genuine danger where he didn't feel like it was 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.420 safe to say anything else like the best thing 00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:16.539 to do was to say oh shit and then hang up the 00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:19.519 phone like somebody taking him hostage or prisoner 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:24.039 or kidnapping him yeah i mean there is always 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.139 that but there wasn't anything that was kind 00:37:27.139 --> 00:37:31.679 of heard behind the scenes yeah it's an ongoing 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.670 mystery realistically which you know there's 00:37:35.670 --> 00:37:37.769 a lot of facts and a lot of speculations but 00:37:37.769 --> 00:37:41.329 at the end of the day we're just theorizing this 00:37:41.329 --> 00:37:47.710 case remains open uh which not the greatest his 00:37:47.710 --> 00:37:50.170 body still hasn't been found um his disappearance 00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:54.389 kind of just remains unsolved um and i think 00:37:54.389 --> 00:37:57.250 there's a thing which his parents pushed for 00:37:57.250 --> 00:38:01.750 minnesota's kind of Brandon's Law, in quotation 00:38:01.750 --> 00:38:04.869 marks, which requires police to take missing 00:38:04.869 --> 00:38:07.570 adult cases seriously, even if there's no signs 00:38:07.570 --> 00:38:09.929 of foul play. Which is great for the parents. 00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:12.769 Honestly, fair fucking play to them. I absolutely 00:38:12.769 --> 00:38:15.829 agree, and I think that should be instated in 00:38:15.829 --> 00:38:19.630 every single country around the world. Oh yeah, 00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:22.789 that should be worldwide. That shouldn't be just 00:38:22.789 --> 00:38:24.750 in one place, that should be a whole worldwide 00:38:24.750 --> 00:38:30.989 thing. Least. you know if there's any sign of 00:38:30.989 --> 00:38:33.469 foul play that's fine you can dismiss it but 00:38:33.469 --> 00:38:35.949 anything else like you need to take seriously 00:38:35.949 --> 00:38:43.030 yeah and the time that somebody needs to be missing 00:38:43.030 --> 00:38:46.849 before they're officially declared missing i 00:38:46.849 --> 00:38:51.349 don't think there should be a time put onto that 00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:54.690 i think that as soon as somebody suspects that 00:38:54.690 --> 00:38:56.289 something's happened to someone and someone's 00:38:56.289 --> 00:38:58.340 went missing that's The investigation should 00:38:58.340 --> 00:39:01.820 immediately be opened. I disagree with you there. 00:39:01.940 --> 00:39:03.559 I understand, like, obviously what you're saying. 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.000 I think there should be a time limit, but I think 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.659 it should be extended. So maybe a week. Do you 00:39:10.659 --> 00:39:12.480 know how much... 24 hours. Do you know how much 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.000 can happen in a week to someone? Yeah, no, of 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.659 course I do. But it's like, 24 hours is, like, 00:39:17.659 --> 00:39:19.539 a bit too short, because, you know, they could 00:39:19.539 --> 00:39:22.780 come back the next day and go, hello. But a week, 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.340 you know, something is at play. Something has 00:39:26.340 --> 00:39:30.369 happened. But then, if they come back after 24 00:39:30.369 --> 00:39:32.889 hours, good, move on to the next case. Like, 00:39:32.909 --> 00:39:35.849 the police isn't losing anything. They're not 00:39:35.849 --> 00:39:37.969 losing their resources. We're paying fucking 00:39:37.969 --> 00:39:41.150 enough taxes to be able to, you know, if we're 00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:42.849 scared for someone's health and safety, they 00:39:42.849 --> 00:39:46.510 should immediately take action. Even if, you 00:39:46.510 --> 00:39:48.469 know, absolutely, if there's some crackheads 00:39:48.469 --> 00:39:52.309 that constantly report Sandra down the road missing 00:39:52.309 --> 00:39:54.510 because she's went to the crackhouse and passed 00:39:54.510 --> 00:39:59.099 out on the toilet. Oh, Sandra. Like, Sandra's 00:39:59.099 --> 00:40:02.340 just doing Sandra things and, you know, shooting 00:40:02.340 --> 00:40:04.739 straight heroin through her toenails. Like, just 00:40:04.739 --> 00:40:08.619 leave her be. I don't even want to think about 00:40:08.619 --> 00:40:14.980 that, please, Owen. That is fucking grim. But, 00:40:15.059 --> 00:40:18.659 like, you know, in cases like that where the 00:40:18.659 --> 00:40:20.679 police can look at the person's profile, they 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.119 can look at the person reporting it and be like, 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.280 okay, you know. Big Jezz has reported Sandra 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:28.579 missing three times in the last month, and she's 00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:32.239 been found fucking comatose with heroin sticking 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.159 out her arms, you know. She's just a drug addict. 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.880 Yeah, like, absolutely. Yes, but if somebody's 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.340 reporting someone missing for, you know, maybe 00:40:43.340 --> 00:40:47.800 the first or even the second time, look into 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.159 it. Straight away. It doesn't matter if it was 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:53.179 ten minutes ago. If they're telling you that... 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.480 you know they were meant to be home 10 minutes 00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.519 ago but they're not answering their phone they're 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:04.219 like you know what's it gonna how expensive is 00:41:04.219 --> 00:41:07.300 it for the police to really just have a look 00:41:07.300 --> 00:41:09.739 around what harm does it cause for the police 00:41:09.739 --> 00:41:13.199 just to have a look around it just depends on 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:14.780 obviously how much crime is happening through 00:41:14.780 --> 00:41:17.300 the day like there could be a riot happening 00:41:17.300 --> 00:41:20.340 there could be so much obviously it's a read 00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:24.139 the room situation The majority of the time, 00:41:24.219 --> 00:41:27.119 there's nothing happening during a day. Plus, 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:28.860 they've got the man force. They've absolutely 00:41:28.860 --> 00:41:34.400 got so many police officers and some of the departments 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:39.880 in places. Anyway, moving on. I think what you're 00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.380 trying to get to is it had, well, it should have 00:41:42.380 --> 00:41:45.900 a massive cultural impact. Like, it obviously 00:41:45.900 --> 00:41:48.820 leaves unanswered questions, but... I think everything 00:41:48.820 --> 00:41:51.659 should be taken more seriously. Oh, yeah. No, 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.599 definitely. agree with that there needs to be 00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:02.760 more things put in place yes absolutely um so 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:09.980 let's go on to the um you know the stuff that's 00:42:09.980 --> 00:42:14.639 happening nowadays um after the case um sorry 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.699 not after the case because it's the case it's 00:42:16.699 --> 00:42:21.519 still ongoing um but 13 years later almost 17 00:42:22.470 --> 00:42:24.849 Yeah, I was going to say, that's a long time. 00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:30.389 Very, very long time. But every year, you know, 00:42:30.389 --> 00:42:34.269 the searches continue, new search efforts continue, 00:42:34.710 --> 00:42:38.849 but no new evidence surfaces or has surfaced. 00:42:39.730 --> 00:42:42.230 There's been no real breakthrough. There's been 00:42:42.230 --> 00:42:46.130 nothing. Yeah, there's many internet sleuths 00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:48.309 and kind of redditors and all, you know, all 00:42:48.309 --> 00:42:50.530 that shit, which have been trying to analyze 00:42:50.530 --> 00:42:54.369 the case itself. But it remains, it's up there 00:42:54.369 --> 00:42:56.769 with one of the biggest missing person mysteries 00:42:56.769 --> 00:43:01.070 in the US. Yeah. It's a very well -known case. 00:43:01.630 --> 00:43:04.969 Absolutely. And, you know, the reason why this 00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:09.190 case kind of haunts people is, you know, the 00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:13.489 real -time phone call just makes this case especially 00:43:13.489 --> 00:43:18.570 eerie. Oh, yeah. He was there during the phone 00:43:18.570 --> 00:43:21.059 call. He was there one moment. and then the next 00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:24.639 he's just gone never to be heard or seen from 00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:29.000 again it is just so bizarre and then you know 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.239 you've got the online theories and speculations 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.280 like you said you know redditors and the armchair 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.760 detectives which are honestly incredible people 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.539 which we've spoke about many times i'm sure detectives 00:43:40.539 --> 00:43:46.679 are so needed and so um under appreciated by 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.110 people um but many internet sleuths gonna try 00:43:51.110 --> 00:43:55.829 to analyze the case um day to day like us we're 00:43:55.829 --> 00:44:00.429 trying to get the unknown known yeah absolutely 00:44:00.429 --> 00:44:06.130 it's weird how um one minute you're here and 00:44:06.130 --> 00:44:10.469 then the next you're just gone but what do you 00:44:10.469 --> 00:44:17.469 think happened to brandon swanson well it could 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:22.139 be i actually don't know like this one is stumped 00:44:22.139 --> 00:44:26.280 me yeah i'm the exact same you know there's barely 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:31.360 any evidence yeah to actually support like a 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.500 logical reason um it's kind of why i like this 00:44:35.500 --> 00:44:38.619 case it's you can't physically have an answer 00:44:38.619 --> 00:44:42.079 because there's so many options that it could 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.639 be and there is no wrong answer in this case 00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:51.099 every theory It's possible. Every theory is possible, 00:44:51.260 --> 00:44:54.780 but I'm going to deny the stupid one. Yeah, no, 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.579 absolutely not. But then again, you can't prove 00:44:58.579 --> 00:45:03.599 that they're wrong, that they're stupid. Your 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:05.239 case is as stupid as theirs. What, so he just 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.840 turned into fucking Megatron and then just flew 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.940 into space? Hey! Don't diss the Megatron theory. 00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:18.980 The Megatron theory. Well, what do you think 00:45:18.980 --> 00:45:23.300 happened? I, Optimus Prime, are communicating 00:45:23.300 --> 00:45:28.019 to all the Autobots out in the universe. We are 00:45:28.019 --> 00:45:32.400 bound, Brandon Swanson. We need your help. We 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:39.440 are, Brandon Swanson. And then, Linkin Park plays. 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:50.159 Brandon Swanson's out. Wait, wrong song. Well, 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.539 I know it's What I've Done, but I like number... 00:45:52.539 --> 00:45:59.440 What I've done. But yeah, what do you think happened 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.800 to him, like, realistically? I think that he 00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:10.420 went... took a detour. He fucking went. Yes, 00:46:10.579 --> 00:46:16.789 I like that. He went! He just went. He went, 00:46:16.909 --> 00:46:21.989 he did, he diddly gone. No information. He just 00:46:21.989 --> 00:46:28.769 fucking went. Straight up went. He didn't undo 00:46:28.769 --> 00:46:32.570 that. He didn't. He didn't undo that. He goddamn 00:46:32.570 --> 00:46:37.630 didn't win. He went and kept winning until he 00:46:37.630 --> 00:46:49.869 couldn't win no more. Oh. Lord Almighty. No. 00:46:50.590 --> 00:46:54.769 I think that he... My theory is that somebody 00:46:54.769 --> 00:46:57.889 pulled up and, you know, gunned to a head. Yeah, 00:46:57.889 --> 00:46:59.650 you went back to that a lot, so I think that 00:46:59.650 --> 00:47:04.170 is kind of your ideal scenario. Because it's 00:47:04.170 --> 00:47:07.550 the only theory that would result in no struggle 00:47:07.550 --> 00:47:11.190 and no blood and no nothing being found. I think 00:47:11.190 --> 00:47:16.159 it's very similar to... You know, Mora Murray, 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.420 where... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think anybody 00:47:19.420 --> 00:47:21.420 picked Mora up. I think she just disappeared. 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.940 But... With Brandon, the theory that somebody 00:47:27.940 --> 00:47:30.360 picked him up is very, very plausible. But then 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.260 again... Anything is. It's as plausible as him 00:47:34.260 --> 00:47:38.880 turning into Megatron and flying away, listening 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.730 to Linkin Park. Fly amongst the stars. We seek 00:47:43.730 --> 00:47:49.210 your help on planet Earth. All in all, Brandon 00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:53.389 Swanson's. There's just an army of them in space. 00:47:54.510 --> 00:48:05.349 Oui. Uh, yeah. Say yes in French. Oui. Brandon 00:48:05.349 --> 00:48:13.619 Swanson's are French. Oui. Oh, it's so stupid. 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.360 Now it's just gonna turn into a fucking frog 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.260 and live under the sewer. It's like, wee. Oh 00:48:21.260 --> 00:48:23.199 my god, live under the sewer. Teenage Mutant 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.159 Ninja Turtles. Do you think he turned into a 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.219 Ninja Turtle and then went to live with a rat 00:48:27.219 --> 00:48:30.780 and trade Ninja Turtles things? What the fuck? 00:48:31.380 --> 00:48:37.440 I'm so scared right now, please. Well, that... 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.440 is all we have today's deep dive into the mysterious 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.099 disappearance of brandon swanson as we've seen 00:48:45.099 --> 00:48:49.300 um the case remains one of the unsettling cases 00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:53.639 in recent history like obviously it has unanswered 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.980 questions that continue to haunt his family friends 00:48:56.980 --> 00:49:01.559 and obviously followers who you know want to 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:04.820 know more about the story like us yeah exactly 00:49:04.820 --> 00:49:09.610 if There's one thing we can take away from this, 00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:13.550 obviously, whole case. It's how little we truly 00:49:13.550 --> 00:49:16.670 know about what happens in those moments when 00:49:16.670 --> 00:49:21.369 someone goes missing. Absolutely. And it's even 00:49:21.369 --> 00:49:26.510 sadder to know little or know nothing like this. 00:49:27.489 --> 00:49:31.190 You literally know nothing at this point. You 00:49:31.190 --> 00:49:36.710 know so little that it's less than little. No, 00:49:37.230 --> 00:49:40.250 that hits deep. It makes sense, though, right? 00:49:41.110 --> 00:49:45.389 Oh, no, it makes total sense. If you, obviously, 00:49:45.610 --> 00:49:48.530 you know someone, or if there is a loved one 00:49:48.530 --> 00:49:51.590 out there that is missing, obviously, our deepest 00:49:51.590 --> 00:49:56.389 condolences. We hope you find them. Also, they 00:49:56.389 --> 00:49:59.170 could be Megatron. Very true. Could be seeking 00:49:59.170 --> 00:50:04.070 Autobots out there. Exactly. But, before we wrap 00:50:04.070 --> 00:50:07.809 up, Actually, yeah. I forgot about this completely. 00:50:08.429 --> 00:50:12.070 Here's the answer to Guess the Case segment. 00:50:13.510 --> 00:50:17.809 So, obviously, all other clues. The case was 00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:22.150 Amy Lynn Bradley, who disappeared from a cruise 00:50:22.150 --> 00:50:27.590 ship in 1998. Her case remains unsolved, as most, 00:50:27.789 --> 00:50:31.750 with theories and questions lingering over what 00:50:31.750 --> 00:50:35.039 really happened to her. Will we you know cover 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.320 this case in the future who knows so thank you 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:41.199 all so much for tuning into this episode of at 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:45.000 sixes and sevens and thank you for listening 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:51.059 to me and tommy awful so much big yappers trust 00:50:51.059 --> 00:50:53.039 me we are not going to be doing that every episode 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.380 is just some episodes no we're not i want to 00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:03.630 listen we're doing that again We hope that today's 00:51:03.630 --> 00:51:05.750 episode has gave you something to think about, 00:51:05.869 --> 00:51:09.269 something to laugh about. Not the case, but me 00:51:09.269 --> 00:51:12.690 and Tommy. When it comes to the case, we hope 00:51:12.690 --> 00:51:15.250 it has left you with more questions than answers. 00:51:15.409 --> 00:51:19.170 You know, as all the best mysteries do. 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Anyway, until then... No excuses. Please 00:52:07.699 --> 00:52:11.219 stay curious, stay cautious, and as always, keep 00:52:11.219 --> 00:52:16.960 questioning the unknown. And I send this message 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.400 to any surviving Autobots taking refuge among 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:28.840 the stars. We are here. We are waiting. What?