Welcome back to At Sixes and Sevens. I'm Rio.
And I am Tommy. Tonight, we're diving into the
haunting, unresolved mystery of Brandon Swanson's
disappearance. A case that will send chills down
your spine and leave you with more questions
than answers. But, before we do, Rio, we've got
something new, haven't we? Oh, we do. Introducing...
guess the case we're we're gonna try and do something
new um this episode and it turns out if it turns
out good and yous enjoy it then we will continue
doing it but it's basically a new segment yeah
yeah it's gonna be a way of us hinting what our
next episode is going to be or episode after
that what's coming in the next few episodes yeah
so basically throughout this episode we will
be giving you hints of a famous case and through
this hints we will later on reveal the answer
but you know giving you clues um gets gets gives
you a chance to uh guess the case and if you
guess it correctly correctly let us know no cheating
okay you don't win anything apart from the satisfaction
of a clap one Singular clap. Yep. Nothing else.
Just one single, just sorted. That's it. Are
you ready for clue one? Yeah! Clue one. This
case involves a young person who disappeared
after a seemingly innocent phone call for help.
And that is all we're giving you. We're going
to go through kind of segments and then we'll
come back to this. But for now, that's kind of
all we're giving you. So, if you can guess it
from that, fair fucking play. But then again...
You'll get two claps. So, this case involves
a young person who disappeared after a seemingly
innocent phone call for help. Oh, yeah. That's
basically Brandon Swanson. But... It's not. I
think we need to introduce the scene. Let's do
it. Set the scene. Speaking of Brandon Swanson...
The story... Yes, exactly. the story of brandon
swanson who the fuck was brandon swanson so here's
a couple of facts brandon swanson was a 19 year
old college student from a small town of marshall
minnesota on the night of may 14th 2008 so it's
fairly recent but not too far He mysteriously
vanished without a trace after driving into a
ditch. Despite an extensive search, no evidence,
not even his car keys, wallet, any piece of clothing
has ever been found. Wait, did you say May 14th,
2008? I did indeed. That is the day my brother
was born. The exact day, exact year, exact month.
He was born in 2008. Yeah, my younger brother.
14th of May, 2008. What? Really? Yeah. Oh, shit.
Well, happy born day, I guess. But why is this
case so baffling, you know? Um... Personally,
I don't know. I've got a couple of facts, and...
So, from what I know, the thing that makes me
very, very confused is... Right. He ended up
in a ditch. He made a phone call to his dad.
He started walking towards some town lights.
Yeah. And then just screamed, oh shit, hung up
the phone, and was never seen again. What? Just
went, oh shit, and then just nothing? Mm -hmm.
Out of all the last words that you get, those
two have got to be the scariest things, if you're
on the other side anyway. Yeah, if you're on
a phone to someone and you hear, oh, shit, in
the hang -up, you're like, what the fuck just
happened? Anything could have happened, then.
Like, from Superman abducting him to an angry
bird attacking him, like... Mm -hmm. The impossible
could be possible. But, obviously, we don't know,
and still the case, like, it's unresolved, so,
you know... You know what would be scarier than,
oh, shit? oh hey dad yeah i was gonna say like
if you're on if you're on the phone to your dad
right and all of a sudden the person like the
person that's on the phone to their dad says
oh dad hi and they hang up like that'd be scary
it'd be something like oh i didn't know you were
right in front of me i'll just put the phone
down yeah that'd be terrifying fucking skinwalker
oh Okay, I was thinking more of a copycat more
than a skinwalker. Yeah, I mean, skinwalkers
apparently walk the earth now. I mean, yeah,
the impossible is possible, like I said. Either
way, this case is so... Is that a poltergeist
that mimics different people? Or is that a mimic?
It's a mimic. Well, phantom mimic, I'm not sure.
Until we're professionals at phasmophobia. Yeah,
so let's go back to why the case is so baffling.
Unlike... many disappearances obviously brandon
was actively talking to his parents on the phone
moments before he vanished as obviously we kind
of mentioned um like rio said amazingly uh his
last known words were oh and shit um followed
by complete silence and the phone ending between
the uh the oh and the shit there was a comma
oh yeah no so it fuck you punctuation You might
as well add the exclamation mark as well, you
fucking idiot. True. You forgot the quotation
marks, dumbass. Fuck you. The case itself remains
unsolved, making it one of the strangest missing
person cases in modern history, which obviously
we always say, but it is true. It still baffles
everybody to this day. Absolutely. Including
me. And moi. Which in French literally translates
to me. And now for the guess the case clue two.
We're interrupting. Yes, let's go. Can I do number
two? Maybe you? Sure. If you want a bathroom
break, go ahead. What? Oh, fuck. For fuck's sake.
It took me like a second just to go. The cogs
were like turning in my head. I was like, what
the fuck? Go ahead. You can do number two. Oh,
yes. Let's listen. Clue number. The case baffled
investigators because the last known trace of
the person was a series of strange phone calls,
much like Brandon Swanson's case. That's what
we're literally talking about. Good luck figuring
that one out, fuckers. Like, talking about the
last phone call and how it ended. A lot of these
cases, I guess, involve phone calls. I wonder
what we're going to do next. Are we going to
go to Scream? Absolutely, absolutely. But let's
get into the timeline of events. You know, the
night of May 13th to 14th. 2008 so timeline and
events uh my mother went to the hospital on may
12th gave birth to my brother oh shit wrong case
anyway your brother's not missing but you know
brandon swanson is yes true okay uh so the party
and brandon's drive home so brandon had just
finished his first year at minnesota west community
and Technical College. Oh, damn. Yeah, he's a
smart boy. Well, it's a community college, so
he's... Listen, it's Minnesota West Community,
okay? It could be Central. Oh, okay. Apart from
the East Community, yes. All right, then. Sorry,
I'm very communist. It's just a myth to be a
communist. I'm a dirty communist. What do you
call it when somebody's against different communities?
Oh, that's just racism. Never mind. That's just
straight up racism. Segregation of racism is
like fucking hell. All right, listen, if you
go to Minnesota West Community and Technical
College or any sort of community college, get
on you. We're sorry. Just straight up, we're
sorry. Just start at OnlyFans at that point.
You're not going to get past college. Dude, I
even didn't make it into college. I'm fine. I'll
show off. Anyway, that night he attended a small
gathering with friends in Canby, Minnesota. Minnesota,
even. so he can't be can't be what can he do
come back be alive well he might not be dead
exactly i've got high high hopes that he's out
there being an elvis presley imposter impersonator
yeah i'd watch that Anyway, talking about Brandon
Yuri. Sorry, Brandon Swanson. So he was at a
party. Yes. And he did not appear intoxicated
at the party. You know, according to his friends
who were later questioned by the Polish. So the
car gets stuck. You know, around midnight, Brandon
left to drive home to Marshall, which is around
30 miles away from Canby. That's far. That's
like an hour and a bit. So instead of taking
the usual highway, he took back roads, which,
you know, it's possible to avoid police, you
know, if he had been drinking. Not that we condone
drink driving. If you drunk drive, you're an
absolute cunt and I fucking hate you. Absolutely.
Please do not ever, ever drink and drive. Do
not drive under the influence of any alcohol.
of any drugs of any medications as well so sometimes
medication can impair your driving side effects
yeah um so he you know he could have possibly
taken the back roads to try and avoid you know
police to try and avoid busy roads um you know
no confirmed evidence that he was drunk however
it is a possibility he's coming home around one
in the morning you know oh god So yeah, at around
1 .15am, Brandon's car got stuck in a ditch on
a gravel road near the town of Toonton. Is it
Taunton or Taunton? Taunton, sorry, Taunton.
Yeah, I was going to say Taunton. So I've seen
exactly where his car was stuck on a map, right?
And looking at that road... And let me see if
I can bring it up. So looking at that road, it
is a straight road. It is simple to drive. Like,
if you look at that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. And
that arrow there is where his car was found.
That's just a straight road. So in my belief,
he was probably intoxicated in some way or tired.
That is a far way off the roads. Yeah. So it's
as straight as our road can get. It's a gravelly
road, you know, fields on either side and you
got stuck in a ditch. God knows how that happened.
But you know, shit happens. An animal could have
ran out. He could have swerved, ended up in a
ditch. Absolutely. Anything, anything can happen.
So Brandon then calls his parents for help. um
you know i've been unable to get his car out
brandon called both his parents to try and get
assistance to try and get them to help him um
so he told his parents that he was near lind
minnesota which is about 10 minutes from his
home it's not far his father brian swanson um
drove out to find him being on a phone with brandon
you know and brandon left his car and started
walking toward what he thought were the lights
of lind the town uh so his father stayed on the
phone with him for around 47 minutes trying to
locate him suddenly at 2 30 a .m just over an
hour after his crash um brandon's last words
over the phone were oh shit followed by islands
so he crashed around like what 1 30 1 15 1 15
a .m and he was 10 minutes from home why did
it take his dad over 47 minutes to locate him
when it probably would have took what no so so
he was um So Lind, the town, was 10 minutes from
his home, but Brandon was on his way to Lind.
No, he told them he was near Lind. Yeah. So that's,
you know, he was around 15 to 20 minutes. Yeah,
probably true. So what I'm trying to understand
is why it took his dad 47 minutes. Why 47 minutes
in particular? yeah that's very very good point
because because the drive itself from the party
to his house would not have taken 47 minutes
it's too according to my incredible calculations
it should have taken between 20 and 30 minutes
max and if he was already no but that no no that's
not the point i'm trying to make yeah no i'm
trying to make is why his dad didn't yeah i know
didn't find him within the 47 minutes yeah Yeah,
exactly. I used to stay on a phone for 47 minutes
trying to locate them, and then... But surely
they, you know, if they've lived there for a
while, they'll know the town of Lind. They'll
know, oh, I know where you are, you're right
there. Yeah. Unless they just recently moved
there, but obviously that's a whole nother fucking
story. Very, very true. On that note, I am going
to... Introduce clue three. Do you want to read
clue three or do you want me to read it? Nah,
you do it. I'll do the next one. Okay. So, for
guess the case, this is clue three. The person
was last seen in a remote area and despite extensive
searches, no remains were found for years. Well,
that's a spooky one. Mm -hmm. Hmm. What kind
of remote area? I still don't know what case
it could be. What kind of remote areas are there?
Um, well, remote just means completely, like,
rid of stuff, like, void. There could be, like,
a field or something. Area, right. Wait, no,
isn't a remote area, like, a space that's occupied?
I don't know. Oh, let's go to our remote area.
No, our remote area is, like, far away from everything.
Yeah. Like, the ocean would be our remote area.
Oh, is that a clue? Oh. That clue. And then...
Oh. Oh, I just get a clue. Now, after that clue,
I think we just go back to the case. Yeah? Case
at hand. Absolutely. And go into the nitty -gritty,
the things that I like. The search efforts, the
strange finds, the things that make you question
where the fuck was he? Because, you know, I'm
still trying to figure out what happened. Cannot
piece it together. So, this is what we know as
the facts. Brandon's car was actually found.
After calling 911, which is the American police
system, Brandon's parents joined the police in
searching for him. And obviously this was, what,
probably 2 .30 in the morning when he said, oh
shit. So there was a lot of search parties going
through and probably even neighbours, neighbourhood
watch, stuff like that. But nothing was found
until the next morning where they found, obviously,
his car. It was located 25 miles away. From where
Brandon thought he was. Wait, so that's why it
took him his dad 47 minutes to find him. Because
he couldn't find him. Because Brandon was nowhere
near where he said he was. Which leads me on
to the next point, where his sense of direction
was completely off. Suggesting confusion, disorientation,
or intoxication. Absolutely. Yep. I agree. Or
he was trying to hide something? Would he lie
about where he was if he didn't want to get found?
Not to his dad. But in what we know is there
was no signs of struggle at all. No footprints,
no blood, no signs of struggle near the car itself.
It seemed like Brandon had simply just walked
away. into the darkness of the night and just
vanished. Bizarre. That really reminds me of,
um, Maura Murray. Yes, it does, yeah. We will
100 % cover the future. Oh, we have to. And,
um, what is it? I can't remember the call. The
cadaver dogs? The search dogs. I think it is
cadaver dogs. No, fucking no. But the search
dogs themselves led to a river. So, search dogs
traced the scent from the car to the Yellow Medicine
River, which was about a mile from, obviously,
where his car was parked. But still, no remains,
no clothing, no clues were ever found in the
river. Which, that's a bit... Bizarre. Well,
more than bizarre. Like, why? He could have just
went for a piss in the river. And then he slipped,
and then he said, oh shit, and that's when the
phone call ended. He fell into the river. Case
fucking solved. Boom. But then again, it would
go downstream and find his body at some point.
You know. Yeah, exactly. It kind of leads on
to the theories, though. And I think I'll let
you go more into that. As I said, you know, I
think he could have possibly went to the river
to publicly urinate into the yellow medicine
river. Just wanted to make it more yellow, yeah.
Without the medicine, because if you drink it,
it's not really good. It's not medicinal, yeah.
think that he could have possibly fell into the
river and drowned you know the oh shit moment
could have been him you know slipping into the
water as i said and then i mean as a count but
the counterpoint nobody no clothing no personal
belongings were ever found in the river very
very true but then again don't rivers have like
some of them have like under ground underwater
like tunnel systems he could have been sucked
into one of them and then just stayed underwater
and his body is still underwater in a cave hmm
some rivers have that yeah they do it's kind
of like a different obviously system yeah like
tunnel way basically yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean
it could be it could also um be that you know
some people believe that brandon obviously wandered
into the wilderness and became disorientated.
So he could have succumbed to hypothermia, depending
on, obviously, what the temperatures were, which...
Wasn't that cold? No, from what sources say,
they were around 40 degrees Fahrenheit, which,
for you English people, is 4 degrees Celsius,
which isn't too cold, but it's still... That's
basic UK weather. It's frosty. No, but it's still
frosty. No, frosty's below zero. No, no, no,
no. You get frost on your car at, like, two degrees.
Oh, really? But then again... So he's kind of
just above that. Yeah, so frosty, yeah, fair
enough, but not... That's not... Yeah, but you've
got the breezes, you've got the cold winds, you've
got near river as well, so water's going to be
even colder. I don't think you could get hypothermia.
Like, plus his body was not found in the area.
Depends how long he was out there as well, though.
Yeah. Why would he say, oh, shit, then? If he's
gone to the hypothermia. Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
it wouldn't really be fatal, would it? It'd just
be, like, slight freezing of the hand, maybe
black and blue. Yeah. But that's the only thing
I could think about. It's also possible that
there was, you know, foul play involved. Some
theories suggest that Brandon may have encountered
a stranger or a dangerous situation. uh so you
know this could explain his sudden panic before
the phone call ended um yeah it could have been
someone for example driving by right and uh they
didn't say anything they just slowly drove by
pulled a gun and said get in a fucking car and
brandon's like oh shit hung up got in a car and
they drove off you no you would have heard it
like there's no evidence at all of the attack
there'd be clothing there'd be blood footprints
something like that and the area the area around
is kind of rural with a few people around at
that hour which means there was no evidence because
nobody saw it happen because nobody in the area
like it could have very well been where it's
somebody driving by told the gun told them to
get in the car so there's no sign of struggle
because but you'd hear that on the phone but
if you didn't say something at least like oh
there's a weird car pulling up to me Like, I
wouldn't think anything of it. If I was walking
alone after that and there's a car driving behind
me, I wouldn't be like, there's a car driving
behind me. Yeah. There's so many things that
obviously could be factored into it. But then
again, it's a gravel road, so the cars would
slow down if they'd seen someone. Yeah. I don't
know. That's my most plausible theory is that
he was abducted and there was no signs of struggle
because he just got in a car. I think the one
I'm heading towards is animal attack. Because
obviously Minnesota is known for obviously black
bears, coyotes, cougars, you know, very vicious
predators. Though attacks on humans can be rare,
I know that. An animal could have startled him.
causing him to kind of, like, fall, you know,
shove backwards and kind of drop his phone. That's
the only thing I can think of. You would hear
the animal over the phone. If that was a bear,
you would fucking hear that thing. Unless it's,
like, trying to sneak up on you and you're like,
oh, shit. Bears don't sneak. Neither do coyotes.
Yeah, they do. That's what they do. Bears? Oh,
no. They all... Be big, they have to show dominance.
They're not stealth animals. Yeah, but they wouldn't,
like, expressively, like, roar. They'd just look
at you with, like, disgust. Like, I'm about to
fucking kill you. But then again, there would
be blood and clothing in his body. Like, a bear's
not going to clean up a crime scene. Unless he
just took him as a cub. Like, you've got... brandon
swanson the bear just fully gone yeah that would
be true there would be you know evidence there
that suggests an attack which fair enough but
then there's also the final theory which i'm
gonna straight up dismiss because personally
i think this is the stupidest one i think it's
plausible the amount of people that do that then
yes but I don't think so. Like, so many cases
end up being solved, or, you know, people figure
out that the person, nothing happened to them.
They just intentionally disappeared. Yeah, we're
talking about, kind of, he just chose to run
away and start a new life, which I don't really
see plausible. Why not? Well, he had no personal
issues. or reason to disappear voluntarily that
we know of. You know, his home life was alright.
Everything else was perfect. He had a job that
was stable. He had some great friends around
him. So I don't see why he'd want to kind of
disappear just out of the blue. Um... I... think
that if somebody was having you know personal
issues or family issues and they disappeared
the family would not disclose it i think the
family would be like no it was all good the family
life was perfect because as soon as the family
says there was some issues then they would look
at the family as possible suspects or it would
give them evidence that he potentially done an
intentional you know I mean, you make a good
point, but I still don't believe it. Because
it was the same in Maura Murray's case, where
her dad withheld so much information about her
from the police. You know, he said, no, her life
was perfect, there was no issues, there was no
problems, da -da -da -da -da, and then sometime
later it was revealed that actually her life
was far from perfect. I think we'll get into
that in another episode. Oh, we absolutely will.
I think this is very, very similar to Brandon
Swanson. I don't know. And, similar to the case,
the clue that we're kind of about. Oh, guess
the case. Yes. Clue number four. Get eyes on
the doors. Because the case has been featured
in countless documentaries. And obviously many
theories exist and have been speculated. But
the true story remains unsolved to this day.
Just like Brandon Swanson. Is it the Cookie Monster's
missing cookie? Oh, fuck. You can't just give
it away like that. Of course it fucking is. Is
it elbow? Elbow. It's a fucking elbow. Hi there!
I'm Elbow! I meant, Elbow's missing thumb. He's
just a fucking arm. Hello! But, like, right on
the elbow, the mouth just opens up and it's so
fucking cursed that it just gives the kids nightmares
instead. It's a very ashy elbow as well. It's
not even a nice elbow. There's some, like, eczema
on it and shit. It's all, like, tattooed and
just fucking destroyed. It's got, like, one of
those typical, like, spider webs on it. You know,
the prisoners got... That's what I was thinking.
Just a mouth on the end, and he just goes, hi,
kids. I traumatise you. Lord, avoid it. Right,
why don't we get into kind of the strange details,
the good stuff, you know? Sorry, one strange
detail that was found in his car was that there
was a packet of Skittles with exactly seven red,
three green, and one blue Skittle. Damn, he was
eating the tropical. Fuck, why do I know that?
Oh my god. Just for the record, that is not true.
Or is it? It could be. I could have planted it
there. No, kind of a real strange detail. Why
was Brandon so far from where he thought he was?
That is a strange detail. Yes, that is very true.
Was he confused? Was his phone reception? Was
Google Maps or Apple Maps giving false location
details? To be fair, 2008, you didn't really
have Google or Apple Maps yet. Oh, no. I mean,
iPods were released, weren't they? Yeah, but
they didn't have GIPs. You just called it GIPs,
and I was like, what the fuck is GIPs? GPS. GIPs.
Yeah, yeah. They didn't, but they had location
services, because it's... Like, I remember when
I was like... I moved to the UK in 2006, so 2008
is when I start remembering major things. Whenever
we would go on a car ride somewhere, my dad would
use that old sat -nav. He had a new phone, but
the phone didn't have the navigation, so he had
to use an actual physical sat -nav in a car.
So, was Brandon Swanson using a sat -nav? Because
I don't think he was, because that's his hometown.
He'd know it like the back of his hand. Yeah.
Or at least well enough. I did just see, released
in 2008, was the first Apple iPhone. Oh yeah,
he definitely didn't have that. Which did include
maps, but obviously, yeah, he probably didn't
have that. But yeah, probably didn't have GPS
or sat -nav. Tom -toms were a thing, but, you
know, like you said, he might have just known
the route. He might have just been disorientated.
Then again, that makes me ask more questions
of... How is it possible that he got lost in
his home area? Because if you were to take me
somewhere within a 30 mile vicinity of where
I grew up, I know exactly where I am. If you,
you know, blindfold over my eyes, drive me out
to somewhere, spin me until I'm dizzy and then
leave me, I will find my way back home easily.
On the next episode of At Sixes and Sevens, we
disorientate Rio and take him to... Hmm. Somewhere.
Birmingham. That's not... I did not grow up in
Birmingham! Just take it to Birmingham. What
the fuck am I? And why are people around me snorting
coke? No, you know what? We take... We take Ryo
and we take him to Thailand. Fuck it, we put
him on another continent, like... We take him
to space. It's like the Hangover movies, where
they ended up... Fucking... They end up in Thailand.
Just blackout drunk in the middle of Thailand.
It's like, what the fuck? How did I get here?
Right. With an Asian man in my freezer. Anyway.
Sorry. Okay. Which kind of... Speaking of bodies,
though, why wasn't his body or belongings ever
found? You know, if he drowned, why wasn't it
found downstream? That's what I'm thinking. If
he got murdered by a murder kitty or a bear,
why was his stuff not found in a forest or area
nearby? No blood, no traces of anything at all.
What happened? Where'd he go? Another question
we could ask is what caused his final reaction?
Like the, oh shit. Yeah, right. That's like such
a confusing last two words to say before you
vanish off the face of the earth. He could have
seen an alien. Well. Someone could have grabbed
his ass and squeezed it. And it's like, oh shit.
He's just really horny. He's just like, oh, shit.
Yeah. They didn't say the context of what the
oh, shit was like. That's true. It was oh, comma,
shit, explanation mark. It could have been a
good oh, shit. It could have just came on the
side. It could have just been having a fucking
toss and just went, oh, shit. Oh shit, I'm about
to burst. Oh lord, I'm about to burst. Oh my
god. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it was
a, like, proper oh shit out of fear. No, yeah,
it must have been. I think he knew he was going
to die. Like, did he hear something? Did he step
into something? Or, like, fall into something?
Like, those rivers? the underpasses you say like
something like that but then another thing would
be his phone wouldn't hang up it would hear yeah
you would hear him fall into the river whereas
he said oh shit and then immediately hung up
which only if there was an impact of some kind
because obviously if the phone got impacted and
broke then that makes sense yeah or he was in
genuine danger where he didn't feel like it was
safe to say anything else like the best thing
to do was to say oh shit and then hang up the
phone like somebody taking him hostage or prisoner
or kidnapping him yeah i mean there is always
that but there wasn't anything that was kind
of heard behind the scenes yeah it's an ongoing
mystery realistically which you know there's
a lot of facts and a lot of speculations but
at the end of the day we're just theorizing this
case remains open uh which not the greatest his
body still hasn't been found um his disappearance
kind of just remains unsolved um and i think
there's a thing which his parents pushed for
minnesota's kind of Brandon's Law, in quotation
marks, which requires police to take missing
adult cases seriously, even if there's no signs
of foul play. Which is great for the parents.
Honestly, fair fucking play to them. I absolutely
agree, and I think that should be instated in
every single country around the world. Oh yeah,
that should be worldwide. That shouldn't be just
in one place, that should be a whole worldwide
thing. Least. you know if there's any sign of
foul play that's fine you can dismiss it but
anything else like you need to take seriously
yeah and the time that somebody needs to be missing
before they're officially declared missing i
don't think there should be a time put onto that
i think that as soon as somebody suspects that
something's happened to someone and someone's
went missing that's The investigation should
immediately be opened. I disagree with you there.
I understand, like, obviously what you're saying.
I think there should be a time limit, but I think
it should be extended. So maybe a week. Do you
know how much... 24 hours. Do you know how much
can happen in a week to someone? Yeah, no, of
course I do. But it's like, 24 hours is, like,
a bit too short, because, you know, they could
come back the next day and go, hello. But a week,
you know, something is at play. Something has
happened. But then, if they come back after 24
hours, good, move on to the next case. Like,
the police isn't losing anything. They're not
losing their resources. We're paying fucking
enough taxes to be able to, you know, if we're
scared for someone's health and safety, they
should immediately take action. Even if, you
know, absolutely, if there's some crackheads
that constantly report Sandra down the road missing
because she's went to the crackhouse and passed
out on the toilet. Oh, Sandra. Like, Sandra's
just doing Sandra things and, you know, shooting
straight heroin through her toenails. Like, just
leave her be. I don't even want to think about
that, please, Owen. That is fucking grim. But,
like, you know, in cases like that where the
police can look at the person's profile, they
can look at the person reporting it and be like,
okay, you know. Big Jezz has reported Sandra
missing three times in the last month, and she's
been found fucking comatose with heroin sticking
out her arms, you know. She's just a drug addict.
Yeah, like, absolutely. Yes, but if somebody's
reporting someone missing for, you know, maybe
the first or even the second time, look into
it. Straight away. It doesn't matter if it was
ten minutes ago. If they're telling you that...
you know they were meant to be home 10 minutes
ago but they're not answering their phone they're
like you know what's it gonna how expensive is
it for the police to really just have a look
around what harm does it cause for the police
just to have a look around it just depends on
obviously how much crime is happening through
the day like there could be a riot happening
there could be so much obviously it's a read
the room situation The majority of the time,
there's nothing happening during a day. Plus,
they've got the man force. They've absolutely
got so many police officers and some of the departments
in places. Anyway, moving on. I think what you're
trying to get to is it had, well, it should have
a massive cultural impact. Like, it obviously
leaves unanswered questions, but... I think everything
should be taken more seriously. Oh, yeah. No,
definitely. agree with that there needs to be
more things put in place yes absolutely um so
let's go on to the um you know the stuff that's
happening nowadays um after the case um sorry
not after the case because it's the case it's
still ongoing um but 13 years later almost 17
Yeah, I was going to say, that's a long time.
Very, very long time. But every year, you know,
the searches continue, new search efforts continue,
but no new evidence surfaces or has surfaced.
There's been no real breakthrough. There's been
nothing. Yeah, there's many internet sleuths
and kind of redditors and all, you know, all
that shit, which have been trying to analyze
the case itself. But it remains, it's up there
with one of the biggest missing person mysteries
in the US. Yeah. It's a very well -known case.
Absolutely. And, you know, the reason why this
case kind of haunts people is, you know, the
real -time phone call just makes this case especially
eerie. Oh, yeah. He was there during the phone
call. He was there one moment. and then the next
he's just gone never to be heard or seen from
again it is just so bizarre and then you know
you've got the online theories and speculations
like you said you know redditors and the armchair
detectives which are honestly incredible people
which we've spoke about many times i'm sure detectives
are so needed and so um under appreciated by
people um but many internet sleuths gonna try
to analyze the case um day to day like us we're
trying to get the unknown known yeah absolutely
it's weird how um one minute you're here and
then the next you're just gone but what do you
think happened to brandon swanson well it could
be i actually don't know like this one is stumped
me yeah i'm the exact same you know there's barely
any evidence yeah to actually support like a
logical reason um it's kind of why i like this
case it's you can't physically have an answer
because there's so many options that it could
be and there is no wrong answer in this case
every theory It's possible. Every theory is possible,
but I'm going to deny the stupid one. Yeah, no,
absolutely not. But then again, you can't prove
that they're wrong, that they're stupid. Your
case is as stupid as theirs. What, so he just
turned into fucking Megatron and then just flew
into space? Hey! Don't diss the Megatron theory.
The Megatron theory. Well, what do you think
happened? I, Optimus Prime, are communicating
to all the Autobots out in the universe. We are
bound, Brandon Swanson. We need your help. We
are, Brandon Swanson. And then, Linkin Park plays.
Brandon Swanson's out. Wait, wrong song. Well,
I know it's What I've Done, but I like number...
What I've done. But yeah, what do you think happened
to him, like, realistically? I think that he
went... took a detour. He fucking went. Yes,
I like that. He went! He just went. He went,
he did, he diddly gone. No information. He just
fucking went. Straight up went. He didn't undo
that. He didn't. He didn't undo that. He goddamn
didn't win. He went and kept winning until he
couldn't win no more. Oh. Lord Almighty. No.
I think that he... My theory is that somebody
pulled up and, you know, gunned to a head. Yeah,
you went back to that a lot, so I think that
is kind of your ideal scenario. Because it's
the only theory that would result in no struggle
and no blood and no nothing being found. I think
it's very similar to... You know, Mora Murray,
where... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think anybody
picked Mora up. I think she just disappeared.
But... With Brandon, the theory that somebody
picked him up is very, very plausible. But then
again... Anything is. It's as plausible as him
turning into Megatron and flying away, listening
to Linkin Park. Fly amongst the stars. We seek
your help on planet Earth. All in all, Brandon
Swanson's. There's just an army of them in space.
Oui. Uh, yeah. Say yes in French. Oui. Brandon
Swanson's are French. Oui. Oh, it's so stupid.
Now it's just gonna turn into a fucking frog
and live under the sewer. It's like, wee. Oh
my god, live under the sewer. Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles. Do you think he turned into a
Ninja Turtle and then went to live with a rat
and trade Ninja Turtles things? What the fuck?
I'm so scared right now, please. Well, that...
is all we have today's deep dive into the mysterious
disappearance of brandon swanson as we've seen
um the case remains one of the unsettling cases
in recent history like obviously it has unanswered
questions that continue to haunt his family friends
and obviously followers who you know want to
know more about the story like us yeah exactly
if There's one thing we can take away from this,
obviously, whole case. It's how little we truly
know about what happens in those moments when
someone goes missing. Absolutely. And it's even
sadder to know little or know nothing like this.
You literally know nothing at this point. You
know so little that it's less than little. No,
that hits deep. It makes sense, though, right?
Oh, no, it makes total sense. If you, obviously,
you know someone, or if there is a loved one
out there that is missing, obviously, our deepest
condolences. We hope you find them. Also, they
could be Megatron. Very true. Could be seeking
Autobots out there. Exactly. But, before we wrap
up, Actually, yeah. I forgot about this completely.
Here's the answer to Guess the Case segment.
So, obviously, all other clues. The case was
Amy Lynn Bradley, who disappeared from a cruise
ship in 1998. Her case remains unsolved, as most,
with theories and questions lingering over what
really happened to her. Will we you know cover
this case in the future who knows so thank you
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