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Training should be individualized by age and

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sex, emphasizing lean muscle preservation and

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body fat management, which I think are byproducts

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of the movement patterns relative again to the

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individual. Anthropomorphic data can guide training

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adaptations, optimizing lift techniques, inform

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best methods for those coaches to employ. Hi,

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Andrew. It's my pleasure to have you on Evidence

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Strong Show. If you could briefly introduce yourself.

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Sure. My name is Andrew Hatchett. I'm a professor

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of exercise and sports science at the University

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of South Carolina Aiken. What is your relation

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to Olympic weightlifting? I am also currently

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a competitive Masters Olympic weightlifter. All

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right. So today we're talking Masters weightlifters.

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Let's start with some kind of definition. A Masters

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Olympic weightlifter is defined as an individual

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aged 35 years or older who trains. or competes

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in Olympic weightlifting events. It's age groups

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and the individuals. you know, can range obviously

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baseline at 35 and they compete sometimes beyond

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the age of 90 in sanctioned competitions. And

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that probably needs to be emphasized as well.

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Could you tell us a little bit more why, why

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you decided to study this population? As a competitive

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Olympic weightlifter, I too, and a faculty member,

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researcher in exercise science, I went looking

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into the literature to see if this population

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was studied very often. And I think as you've

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alluded to earlier, that it is. not a heavily

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studied population. So I started looking for

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absolute baseline understanding of what masters

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Olympic weightlifters were. What did they, you

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know, what was their profile? I could find anthropomorphic

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profiles for youth Olympic weightlifters, international

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Olympians, if you will, senior Olympic weightlifters

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and alike, but nothing for masters Olympic weightlifters.

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Thus the interest. I saw it, what I viewed. as

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a need. And I sought to, you know, fill that

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gap in the literature. So what we did is exactly

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that. We developed, or what we believe we developed

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is really the first anthropomorphic profile of

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elite masters Olympic weightlifters. What does

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elite mean? Let's clarify also. Oh, absolutely.

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So for the reporting of this information, elite

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was used because we collected information or

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these statistics at the World Chain. in 2022

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in Orlando, Florida. So in order to make the

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world championships, these individuals had to

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qualify for it. And to hit that level of qualification,

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we believe that they could be considered as being

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elite. How did you set up the study? Okay, first

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off and foremost, I have to really emphasize

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the quality of... the Masters Olympic weightlifting

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community. I reached out to the president of

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USA Masters Weightlifting, Michael Cohen, and

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asked him if it would be possible to collect

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information at the World Championships in Orlando.

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There was zero hesitation. He said, absolutely,

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what do you guys need? We discussed the format,

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and he was able to provide us an entire room

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in the hotel, not a room in the hotel, if you

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will, a hall, a banquet hall. It was a very large

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space for us to collect data. So it was very

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easy to get access to the event. What we did

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in the study, what we collected, or the description

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of the study is that it is a cross -sectional

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design. And we collected anthropomorphic and

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competition data at the 2022 World Masters Weightlifting

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Championships hosted in Orlando, Florida. Athletes

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were recruited through every channel we could

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think of through email. social media, word of

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mouth, face -to -face encounters. I even sent

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some of my students out into the hallways and

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say, hey, see if somebody wants to come in. And

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assessments were conducted for this study, along

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with a number of other data collection efforts.

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So we also had, I believe you've already interviewed

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Marianne Huebner from Michigan State University.

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And we also had a group from Georgia Southern

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University Armstrong campus were there along

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with our cohort. All right. Let's go into what

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type of tests and measurements did you use to

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gather some description of this population? Absolutely.

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What we went through as systematically as we

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could. So we collected height and weight, body

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composition, so body fat, lean body mass. We

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looked at circumference measurements, neck, bust,

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waist, hip. biceps and forearms, limb length,

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shoulder to wrist, inseam. We were able to calculate

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body mass index, waist to hip ratio, and a body

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shape index. And we used competition performance

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metrics, snatch, clean and jerk, obviously, and

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then the Sinclair -Meltzer -Faber formula, and

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then the Sinclair -Hubner -Meltzer -Faber formula

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for female athletes. The SMF is for male athletes.

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And that's really what we collected for this

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study. Okay, so in terms of... decomposition.

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How did you measure that? We used a piece of

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equipment called a Fit3D scanner. It is a scanner

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that has three infrared cameras. And it rotates

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the individual 360 degrees. I believe it uses

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bioelectrical impedance. And then based on the

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capture of the individual's body, it enters into

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an algorithm and the results were deposited to

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us. That's awesome. How many people? How many

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did you hand down and measure? We had 172 participants

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out of, I believe it was 840 that were at the

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world championship. So that's approximately a

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20%. capture, which we were happy with because

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as an Olympic weightlifter yourself, a lot of

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these athletes and it being the world championships,

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it's a business trip. You know, these guys are

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there to, they're there to compete and any distraction

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is exactly that. It is a distraction. So we,

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we felt very fortunate to get those, uh, that

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20%. And again, I cannot speak highly enough

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about the population. Everybody was a pleasure

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to work with and our, our subjects reign. from

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35 to 90 years old. It was an awesome experience

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as well. Not only as a researcher and a fan of

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the sports and, you know, getting to see friends

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and all of that and working with the different

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organizations, but the personalities of these

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guys was absolutely amazing. I mean, they're

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an absolute dream to work with. They are. So

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the younger athletes were less inclined to come

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in and participate because I think they were

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a little bit more business oriented. It came

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to that. But the older folks were fantastic.

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And when I say older, I would say 45 plus. And

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they would just roll in. Some of them would roll

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in and say, hey, what is this? Our son at consent

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form. Exactly. What did you find in your study?

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Sure. So I thought it was interesting. Obviously,

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I thought it was interesting. But masters lifters

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generally exhibited better body composition than

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age matched general population, which is a lower

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body mass index. And what's probably more significant

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or with greater practical significance is a lower

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waist circumference. So what we're finding is

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BMI was a statistic that everybody. hung their

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hat on. And it's an excellent statistic for what

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it means. But waist to hip ratio and waist circumference

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are gaining momentum in their significance as

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far as practical application is concerned. So

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our population also had a lower waist circumference

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than aged match general population. Performance

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decline with age. We all know that. Before we

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go on, this is huge. This is saying people who

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went all in, they are serious about Olympic weightlifting.

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They go to the... international the highest level

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competition which is walls they go there to compete

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they go there to win medals get pbs and you know

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be the strongest and the most powerful they can

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be no matter what age up to 90 you said so and

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these people who went all in in this sport so

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they probably sacrificed some other things for

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it they still come on top in terms of their body

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weight and body composition probably because

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that's what waist to hip ratio would be saying

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wouldn't it correct i agree with you and by no

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means do i want to belittle that belittle that

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result one thing that we haven't mentioned yet

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is that this sport is age and weight categorized

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so it is weight specific right with those weight

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categories i think males maybe have 11 weight

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categories and females maybe i think it's 8 to

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10 i'm not sure off the top of my head but i

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think it was in orlando it was 10 10 okay all

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right yeah yeah yes okay body weight and then

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for I think males had one or two more. Okay.

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Then that's the difference that's going on in

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my mind. It's a sport that is obviously performance

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-driven, and it has body weight categories. Serious

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competitors, as you say, people that go all in,

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have to consider their body composition, I would

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believe, have to consider their body composition,

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and in an effort to make them as efficient and

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as effective of a performer as they can. be or

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athlete. I don't know anywhere in the literature

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that says if you lift weights, your body composition

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shifts in a negative way, right? You gain muscle,

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you become a more efficient metabolic machine.

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There is no reason, in my opinion, my professional

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and personal opinion, there is no reason for

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anybody to not lift weights, period. What we're

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seeing in research, what we're seeing in the

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lay community is a greater emphasis on gaining

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strength as you age because it has a functional

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application from stability to the ability to

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absorb a fall so to let's say yeah uh stability

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to resist a fall strength to damper the impact

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of a fall to be able to grab a handrail to be

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able to you know stabilize yourself against an

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external object again what better display of

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strength and full movement patterns than Olympic

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weightlifting. If you are a truly competitive

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Masters Olympic weightlifter, you are going to

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pay attention to your body. You're going to pay

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attention to your weight. I don't think it's

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a bad thing. Yes, some people get obsessive compulsive

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with that kind of stuff. But again, it has an

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end. You know, I weigh myself every night and

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every morning. I want to be within one kilogram

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of my competitive weight category because I don't

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want to have to cut tremendously for when I compete

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next. That does wonders for me, right? Blood

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pressure is lowered. Body fat is better than

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it was when I weighed 20 more pounds, but I was

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a little bit stronger. But my competitiveness

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within that weight category was a little bit

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lower. You know, I'm playing that game and a

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lower BMI, a lower waist circumference with the

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idea of adding strength. And you use the word,

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it's not only strength, it's power. It's the

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application of strength. It's all positive. It

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really is. It is all positive. I cannot think

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of a negative when it comes to Olympic weightlifting.

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I've heard in the past, you know, you don't see

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as many older Olympic weightlifters as you do

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older powerlifters. I disagree with that. I have

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studied that population. I have hung out with

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these people. I competed at the Pan American

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Championships in May. There were 400 of us just

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hanging out in a hotel. That's not true. So from

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holding yourself accountable. to training, to

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seeing real results as far as performance goes,

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to creating accountability for body composition,

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for the camaraderie within the community, to

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the events in general. It's a fantastic, I think

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it's a fantastic sport to compete in. Even as

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you get older, I can only imagine that many,

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many of us got into it because of CrossFit. We

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learned the basic movements. Maybe our engine,

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so to speak, for CrossFit and GPP kind of wanes

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as we age. And then we dip into things that make

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us feel just as good. I love Olympic weightlifting.

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I have fun with it. I don't train seven days

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a week. I train three or four days a week. It

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fits into my lifestyle. It fits into my schedule.

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I think it's pretty great. That's the thing.

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I think it actually, this is one of the sports

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that actually may fit with a busy adult lifestyle

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with responsibilities, with, you know, family

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obligations. You're absolutely right. It's completely

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doable. It does. It fits more nicely into the

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schedule than any other type of training I've

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done, for sure. You want to hit some more results?

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I presume. that the body weight will increase

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with weight classes, but did it influence the

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lean muscle mass anyhow? The composition, does

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it change? Not respectively within weight classes.

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To say that, not disparaging any weight class,

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but the heavy weight classes are probably going

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to be a little bit more disproportionate than

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the super light weight classes. But across the

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board, body composition held reasonably consistent.

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Again, you're going to have two ends, so to speak.

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They're not necessarily outliers, but the two

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for peripheral points, but really within those

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other eight weight categories, because you have

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one in 10, within those other weight categories,

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body composition remained reasonably consistent

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across age group and across sex respectively.

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So the other key findings that I think I would

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like to mention is Obviously, performance declined

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with age, as it does. I even think that you posted

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a graphic on that, perhaps. So that's fair, especially

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it says the results indicated, especially among

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women in their late 40s and late 50s, likely

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due to menopause -related changes. Absolutely.

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There's one aspect that we haven't looked at,

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and I don't think anybody's really looked at,

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is menopause is certainly significant. But men

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also go through a hormonal decline. at a certain

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age and it's called andropause. Nobody's really

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looked at that. So potentially a future study.

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Height and body fat percentages were significantly

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associated with performance across lifts for

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both men and women. So the way somebody's built

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essentially, right? Male performance was more

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influenced by muscle mass and arm circumference

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indicating upper body muscles role in their success,

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which I believe alludes to female athletes being

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more technically proficient in order to be successful.

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Again, I'm going to say I'm biased. I married

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a great athlete. We have two excellent athletes

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for daughters. But as far as movers go, I am

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of the opinion female athletes are better movers

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than male athletes. Just guys are a little bit

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stronger. Women move a little bit better. Performance

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decreased with age through though high functional

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capacity was maintained. Yes, you decline. but

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you were still very good at what you did, respected

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with the age. Height and body composition were

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significant predictors of performance for both

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sexes. I've talked about that. Female lifters

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were slightly taller and male lifters slightly

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shorter than age match norms, which I found interesting

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because when it comes to a power sport, you think,

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I think, tighter bodies. if you will, shorter

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people, more dense muscle, shorter joint spaces

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will be better movers. That's what essentially

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it says for men. Guys a little bit shorter are

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going to perform well. But for female athletes,

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they were a little bit taller than. age match

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norms. So again, the elite female Olympic weightlifters

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are not only not only have better body composition

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are excellent movers, but they're a little bit

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taller and excellent movers, which overall indicates

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an outstanding athlete. Female participants had

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higher body fat and lower lean mass than males,

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but physical profiles remained healthier than

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general population norms. But it's it's completely

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normal for female athletes to have higher body

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fat percentages and lower lean mass just because

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females are different than males. So all of that

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checked out. So those were really the main findings.

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And again, good body composition, good movers,

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good athletes across all ages and both sexes,

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some anthropomorphic, if you will, some interesting

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things that, you know, males rely on probably

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muscle a little bit more and females rely on...

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being better athletes, being excellent movers.

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So I thought that was really, really interesting.

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Okay. So now I think we need to bring together

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all the findings and try to, I will try to get

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you to speculate a little bit what it means for

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public health. So how, now these are elite. Let's

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say I'm an average person who's coming to the

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gym and I think I'm not elite. I just want to

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get a little bit healthier. Why would I care

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about all this? olympic weightlifting why would

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i even try what is so good in it from a physical

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standpoint when training olympic movements i

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believe you get your best bang for your buck

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i believe you get range of motion i believe you

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get strength and if done at pace you can also

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get a level of cardiovascular fitness i think

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engaging in compound movements with relatively

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significant weight at pace is the formula for

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better health. Olympic weightlifting in my experience

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is the best example of that. Very well said.

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Very well said. How would you frame this message

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to the coaches? Training should be individualized

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by age and sex, emphasizing lean muscle preservation

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and body fat management, which I think are byproducts

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of the movement patterns relative, again, to

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the individual. Anthropomorphic data can guide

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training adaptations, optimizing lift techniques,

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inform best methods for those coaches to employ.

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Body composition, not just weight or BMI, can

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be a primary focus for performance and health

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outcomes. As a coach, you need to attend to the

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individual and their capacities within those

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movement patterns and adjust accordingly. Become

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well -versed at being able to program and teach.

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adaptive movement patterns, such as instead of

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a squat snatch, a split snatch. Instead of a

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split jerk, maybe a power jerk. Or even as rudimentary,

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a power clean or a power snatch. Learn the progressions.

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Teach those athletes. I would love nothing more

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than the Masters Olympic weightlifting community

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to continue to grow and explode. And I think

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it's vital that coaches treat their athletes

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as individuals. I'm not a huge fan. So to pivot

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a little bit, I'm not a huge fan of cookie cutter

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templates, especially for such a dynamic sport.

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Yeah, training should be individualized for sure.

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All right, let's continue on this line. What

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would be your message to masters athletes? If

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you are of master's age and you have just the

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slightest ambition of learning Olympic weightlifting,

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by all means, do it by any way you can. If you

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can find a coach, fantastic. If you have one

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close to you, wonderful. If you need to find

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a remote coach, reach out to the message boards.

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People will recommend all the time good remote

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coaches. Again, it is the best community I've

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ever been involved with. They want nothing but

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for your success. You are always competing against

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yourself, not against other individuals. It is

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the most gratifying sport I've ever participated

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in. From having the self -discipline to go and

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train on a regular basis, to being proud of myself

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for stepping on the platform and in front of

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judges at every level. If it's a local meet.

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fantastic if it's a state meet okay if regional

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national international all it has done for me

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personally is made me better you know it's that's

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all i can say i have zero regrets engaging in

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this sport and engaging with this population.

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Excellent. I think that's good for closing. These

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are short questions to finish. The first one

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is, which one is your favorite lift? Whichever

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one gets me white lights. I've been thinking

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of this answer for a while. So that is my official

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answer. Whichever one gets me at least two white

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lights. All right. Where people can find you

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if they want to follow your work and even get

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in touch or ask a question, where should they

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go? Yeah, it's, you know, to get in touch with

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me. is andrew at usca .edu. That is the best

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way to get ahold of me. All right. Thank you

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so much, Andrew. It was a pleasure. Thank you

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very much. I'm absolutely honored for you to

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ask for this.
