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But the most important thing that you can do

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as a weightlifter is literally do the motor control,

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the motor coordination warm -up. Already lifting

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to absolute maximum and going to reasonably heavy

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weight. Might not be the weight you use on the

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platform, but reasonably heavy. And if you do

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something else, you can seriously affect it.

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Hi Tony, welcome to Evidence Strong Show. If

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you could briefly introduce yourself. Yeah, hi

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everyone. Yeah, it's great to be here. Thanks

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for the invitation. Thank you. My name is Tony

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Blazovic. I'm a professor in biomechanics, although

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these days I do quite a lot of research also

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in the neurophysiology space. In the biomechanics

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space, I guess I work mostly in understanding

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how muscles function, and that's why, of course,

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we have to have the nervous system involved.

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Although in athletes, I also work at the whole

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body level, how to run, how to change direction,

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how to move, and of course, all the strength

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and conditioning aspects to that. So I guess...

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Primarily, I'm a researcher and a teacher in

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academia, but I'm lucky enough to continue to

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work with athletes on the side. All right. And

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today we're diving into post -activation potentiation

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and post -activation performance enhancement.

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So let's define the terms so we are on the same

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page. Yeah, good idea. You know, maybe... A hundred

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years ago or more, it was already recognized

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that if you electrically activate a muscle once,

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you get a certain force. And if you activate

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it a second time, we get more force. And it's

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taken about a hundred or so years to understand

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exactly why that's the case. But right down at

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the molecular level, when actin and myosin cross

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bridges in your sarcomeres are generating these

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forces, we seem to get a little bit more force

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because we get some more cross bridges between

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the actin and the myosin attaching. if you've

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already done a contraction before. And we might

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call that... classic potentiation that force

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is potentiated so it's higher and you can see

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that in the muscle itself now there's still some

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debate around the exact mechanisms and everything

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else but you know we can we can discuss that

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if you really really want to on the other side

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of the coin you know a lot of people then say

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well if the muscle generates a bit more force

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after the second or third contraction maybe we

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can do that as well in normal human movements

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like when we're warming up we might be able to

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do these funky high force contractions and then

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when we do something after it that requires force

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or power, maybe we're going to be better. And

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a lot of people call that potentiation as well.

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So it gets a little bit confused between real

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life, whole human potentiation and this little

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molecular thing happening in our muscles. So

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maybe about five or six years ago, a group in

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Canada decided to call it performance enhancement

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rather than potentiation, just to distinguish

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it. So what we call post activation. Performance

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enhancement or PAPE is really that sort of global

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improvement in performance you get if you've

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done something a bit tough before it. So most

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of the time in weightlifting or in the gym, we're

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talking about... performance enhancement, that

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P -A -P -E thing. Let's say you're a weightlifter.

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Your job is to stand on a platform with a very

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heavy weight and somehow get it from the ground

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to above your head. That doesn't just require

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maximal muscle strength, okay? Because what you

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need to do is induce momentum or velocity in

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the bar. Because at some point you need to do

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essentially two or three phases of lifting. And

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in order to, for example, to get underneath the

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bar, you need the bar to keep going upwards like

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a projectile, like a ball being thrown. To give

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it that speed to keep going up against gravity

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while you then duck underneath it to do the second

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or next phase of belief, we talk about needing

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muscle power more than pure strength. As a biomechanist,

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I'd say power is a really difficult, complicated,

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and often erroneous term. I would say we need

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to give kinetic energy to the bar. We need more

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energy in the bar. So the question is, how do

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you do that? And let's be really clear here.

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You need a nervous system that is appropriately,

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but as maximally as possible, activating your

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muscles. And just remember that in a really complicated

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movement, it's not just a case of maximally activate

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every muscle. You have to time the activations

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and scale those activations to generate very

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specific directions of force. It is a hugely

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complicated task, which is of course why it takes

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years or decades to get really good at it. The

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next thing we need is then for the muscles to

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do their job. That means, yes, they need to produce

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a really high force, but they somehow need to

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shorten very rapidly. And by the way, while they're

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doing that, they're stretching and then allowing

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the recoil. of elastic elements like tendons

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to get extra kinetic energy or power into the

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system. So we need the nervous system to do its

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job. We need the muscles to do its job. Now let's

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go back to how we get there besides the fact

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that you've now trained for years or decades

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to get it right. And let's just talk about in

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the lead up to that event, what PAP would say,

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like if people said post classic post activation,

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the real muscly thing, what seems to be happening

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there is if you can activate the muscle really

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quite hard, it needs to be a high frequency.

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of pulses coming from your nervous system what

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seems to happen then is the calcium that your

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muscles then release triggers a series of processes

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that bends the myosin arm closer to the actin

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site that it needs to grab so that it can pull

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your muscle so when myosin wants to pull your

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muscle it's kind of randomly looking around for

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it it doesn't happen just because it happens

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it's like a random thing like everything in biology

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or physics is random and when you release calcium

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the actin is ready to take the myosin, but the

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myosin doesn't just automatically attach. It

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really helps if the myosin comes closer. And

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when you've activated the muscle once, it turns

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out that those myosins stay closer. So when you

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activate it the second time, they're more likely

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to bind and pull. So the current mechanism behind

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this classic post -activation potentiation is

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that the myosin is more likely to bind when we

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release calcium. So they call it calcium sensitivity.

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We're more sensitive to the amount of calcium.

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And if we take a single muscle, muscle fiber,

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we see that. You activate it and you can see

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all this happening. It's not just about the myosin

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itself. There could be water, there could be

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some temperature effects, but mostly that's the

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reason. Just a clarification. So when you talk

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about myosin and actin, what are you referring

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to is the sliding theory. So to contract the

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muscle, these two have to come together and kind

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of slide on top of each other. That's exactly

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right. Thanks for clarifying that. So in your

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muscle, you've got muscle fibers. Inside the

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muscle, your fibers, you've got this thing called

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myo... fibroids, these long chains of motors.

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Those motors are called sarcomeres and you've

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got literally trillions of sarcomeres in any

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muscle. But the rows of sarcomeres are all shortening

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at the same time. And the reason they shorten

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and therefore shorten the whole muscle is because

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within them, you've got these micro motors where

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a myosin protein or a filament is attaching to

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an actin protein and pulling on it. And this

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shortens each sarcomere. And when each sarcomere

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shortens, those myofibrils and therefore the

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whole fiber. shortens and of course this is where

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we get muscle work from and so what we're saying

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here is that if you just activated those myosins

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to pull on actin once then in the seconds or

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maybe a minute or two afterwards they're going

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to do it a little bit better it seems to be more

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effective in fast twitch muscle fibers than slow

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twitch muscle fibers it's almost like an evolutionary

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thing where you don't just want a random single

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twitch from the brain or something to over activate

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you so if you've just activated once and and

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it looks like you're going to need your muscles

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again it's like this little sensation thing comes

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in and allows the fibers to actually do their

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work really, really well. Now, I just want to

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be really clear here. If you activate the muscle

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and get this mechanism working, this classic

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post -activation potentiation, it works immediately.

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So if you immediately do another contraction,

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you'll see an improvement in performance, but

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it has a half -life of around about 30 seconds.

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So in other words, we lose the ability really

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quickly. And by two or three minutes, it's completely

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gone. In other words, the classic PAP is happening

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early, but the potentiation that most people

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are seeing in the research studies is happening

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much later so it's almost certainly not due to

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classic PAP and in some ways that makes sense

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let's go back to weightlifting I said you need

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your brain to activate spinal cord to activate

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you need massive activation you need whole coordination

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you need a huge number of muscles doing lots

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of things and lots of things in your muscle temperature

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water mass everything will affect how forceful

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they are maybe it makes sense that a little teeny

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mechanism that's happening in your fiber level

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is not as important as we first thought so when

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it comes out to your entire weightlifting capacity

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it seems really unlikely that this classic PAP

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is actually doing much at all, especially by

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the time you walk out onto the platform, center

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yourself, image the lift and commence the lift.

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You've already lost most of the effect anyway.

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My opinion is that this classic potentiation

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that happens down at that sort of fiber level

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is probably not really important to us from a

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muscle strength and power perspective. And I

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know a lot of people might disagree with me,

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but like I said, the peak of that effect happens

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in the first few seconds. And by 30 seconds,

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you've already lost. half of it yet you know

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we're often performing a long time after that

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and in the research studies the peaks that you

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see which we definitely need to talk about tend

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to take minutes to come so it's coming when this

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mechanism is completely gone so you mentioned

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that the water content in the muscle may play

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a role so i wanted to explore this part so of

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course the research already shows us that once

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you're dehydrated we seem to have reduced uh

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neural outflow so your brain and spinal cord

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don't won't seem to activate the muscles maximally

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once you're dehydrated. So we're clearly sensing

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dehydration at lots of levels of the body. It

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could be everything from changes in blood pressure

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to changes in the pressures within the muscle

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that affect some of the sensory information coming

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back to us. And that seems to be affecting the

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outflow to the muscles. So first of all, if you're

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cutting weight and you're weighing several days

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prior, you really need to rehydrate from a nervous

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system point of view. But we've also known for,

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you know, since at least the 19... 60s that again

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down at the muscle level certainly at the fiber

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level but it looks like even at the whole muscle

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level water content matters and it matters for

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two main reasons one is during the eccentric

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phase if you've got lots of fluid in the muscle

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the cells are what we call more turgid just like

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if a plant is dehydrated it wilts It gets soft.

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Your cells get soft and floppy. The same thing

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happens in your muscle. That if you don't have

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enough water sitting in the muscle, the cells

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themselves get a little bit more compliant, a

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little bit floppy. And what that means is when

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the muscle is being stretched under load, if

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you want to stretch a balloon, for example, it

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has to get narrower in its center because the

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volume stays the same, right? So if you pull

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it out this way, it has to go shorter this way.

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Same with your muscle. If you want to stretch

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your muscle outwards, it needs to shrink inwards.

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got lots of water in there it's harder to do

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that there's more pressure there's more resistance

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to that which actually makes it harder to stretch

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your muscles any of your listeners who've done

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really high intensity exercise where we get massive

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water flow into the muscle will know they feel

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stiff anyone who's had doms you know delayed

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onset muscle soreness in the days after a session

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knows that the muscle gets stiff and a lot of

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this stiffness is the water mass that's sitting

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in there and it's being dragged in there by all

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these molecules like lactate and all these other

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ions that are drawing the water in. Now that

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increases eccentric strength because it makes

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it harder for the muscle to stretch. So in one

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way, just having water seems to be beneficial

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for reducing stretch. But when it comes to shortening

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the muscle and generating power, we think it

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also has two main mechanisms. One is the fuller

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and stiffer the fiber is, when the fibers shorten,

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they then bulge and that forces the other ones

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away and causes rotation of our fibers. don't

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just shorten end on like this the fibers within

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them shorten and get rotated and they get rotated

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because as they shorten they get bulged and that

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forces the fibers to push outwards and rotate

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that rotation is really good because instead

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of just needing fiber shortening if they also

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rotate notice the muscle shortens even further

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so it shifts your power output It doesn't improve

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peak power. It shifts your power output to higher

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speeds. So this fiber rotation is really important

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for high -speed muscle activation. And one hypothesis

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at the moment is you need the water. to get that

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to happen. But you know what? Outside all that,

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right down at the cellular level, it matters

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too. It's been very well demonstrated that again,

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when the myosin attaches to actin, it pulls,

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it detaches. When it detaches, it's no longer

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applying a force. So you either need it to get

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back quickly, or imagine if you could just prolong

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that stroke a bit more. Then on average, the

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myosins would be attached a little bit longer.

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And at any time, there would be more still pulling

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because they're pulling for longer. That means

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if you've got more of them you've got more force.

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And it's very well demonstrated that if you put

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water into the cell, into the muscle finder,

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myosin stays attached a bit longer. And the reason

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is, is because proteins have an electrical charge.

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You know, they've got a positive at one end and

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a negative at the other end. They're charged.

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And half the reason why they attach to each other

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is like opposite ends of a magnet. You have two

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different poles or two different charges and

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they attract. And that's what helps myosin get

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onto actin. So when it gets to this end, if you've

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got more attraction, it's harder for myosin to

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pull off so it stays attached longer. Now water,

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H2O, also has hydrogen, which is a positive,

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and two oxygens, which are negative. So it's

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also got a charge. It's got different poles.

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So you put a water molecule next to actin and

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myosin and it affects that attractive charge.

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And it turns out that if you put lots of water

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in there, it stops myosin pulling off. The myosin

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can't pull off because it's too attracted to

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the actin. So the water seems to improve muscle

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force. And this has been known for a long time.

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We think that maybe things like creatine, and

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warm up. When you warm up, you generate a bit

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of lactate. It doesn't have to be much. You generate

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hydrogen ions. You generate all these other things.

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That draws water into the cell, makes it nice

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and swollen. And at the moment, we're doing experiments

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to see if we can look for associations between

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the water and the force. We haven't published

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them yet, but we have found those associations.

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So I hope to be able to publish those soon. So

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it does look like water mass is actually really

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important for force, all the way through to higher

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speeds of force. So yeah, make sure... you rehydrate

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fully? It could be really important. Well, that's

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a brilliant explanation. Thank you. Maybe the

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most important thing for your listeners is to

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start thinking about what's happening at the

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whole body level. Water is one of them, but temperature

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is a huge one, which we should talk about. And

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of course, the neural activation part of it is

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also probably huge that we should talk about.

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What I want is for everyone to stop thinking

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about all these cool things that might be the

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0 .5 % and get back to the basics. Always think,

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what are we trying to achieve here? Let's go

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back to the idea then that in your warmup. Let's

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call it a warmup, even though it's not just about

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temperature. The first thing that has to happen

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here is that we need to practice maximally activating

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the muscles. Even if I just do something like

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a bicep curl and I do the fastest, hardest activation

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possible once. And I look at how fast the force

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rises and I look at the peak force. Now, even

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if I wait a minute so that there's no chance

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of a temperature rise, because I did one quick

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contraction and then I sat around for another

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minute. So there'd be almost no effect on temperature

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a minute later. If I now activate a second time

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and I do a wait a minute and do another one,

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the only thing I'm really doing here is practicing

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the high speed maximal activation of the muscle.

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And if I put little electrodes on there and I

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record from the muscle, I can see an increase

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in both the rate and the height of the activation,

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the electrical work. If I use like an electrical

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or a magnet to stimulate the very part of my

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brain that would cause this muscle to twitch,

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I can see a bigger twitch or a bigger. electrical

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activity in other words this whole pathway to

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the muscle has been upregulated or potentiated

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if you like now this what's really important

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is that you're practicing maximal rapid activation

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it's also important though that we're testing

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the same exercise we're training and this is

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really important because it's not just that muscle

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that gets this brief quick learning. It's all

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the supporting muscles because even just doing

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this is super complicated because as soon as

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I activate this muscle, a whole range of forces

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happen all through here that my brain has to

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know are about to happen. It has to pre -activate

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all this just to get this to work. In other words,

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if you practice a task with maximal effort, maximal

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rate of effort, you will learn that task and

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you will perform it better. And when we test

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five minutes later, 10 minutes later, we can

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still see that activation. In fact, one of my

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favorite studies was done back in 1998 and they

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deliberately stimulated the brain. So there was

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no voluntary opportunity here. And they recorded

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from the thumb muscle. And when they stimulate,

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the thumb might twitch like this. And they put

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little accelerometer here to see how fast the

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muscle moves, but also what direction. Do you

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know what they did? They stimulate like heaps

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and heaps of times and they see the muscle doing

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this. What they then did was they asked them

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to activate or practice. in the other direction.

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So it's the thumb muscle, but it's the opposite

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muscle now works. They leave the stimulator right

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here. So when they re -stimulate it, it's exactly

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the same place. It should give you exactly the

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same outcome, but you know what? It didn't. Instead,

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the thumb went the wrong way. So literally you

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stimulate the same part of the brain, but because

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you've just practiced going this direction, you've

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now increased the excitability, we call it, of

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that pathway. It's a short -term bluster. minutes

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many minutes goes in the wrong direction now

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if we were in that study they recorded for the

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next half an hour and it took something like

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15 20 25 minutes for that stimulation to eventually

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cause a much more regular appropriate activation

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in other words the practice you do in the tens

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of minutes completely affects it now even if

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your brain was receiving the correct motor program

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from the pre -motor area sending it to the bit

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that has to activate the motor motor area even

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if it received the right info, what we're saying

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is you activate that part of the brain and it

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still gives you an inappropriate response. So

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somewhere in this part of the pathway, it's changing.

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So what we learn from these studies is you have

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to practice maximal activation, but you have

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to practice it perfectly coordinated with the

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skill. Now in weightlifting, you might break

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the weightlifting skill down into each phase

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of it first and then build it all up and do some

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full practice lifts. But the most important thing

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that you can do as a weightlifter is literally

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do the motor control, the motor coordination

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warmup, already lifting to absolute maximum and

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going to reasonably heavy weight. Might not be

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the weight you use on the platform, but reasonably

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heavy. And if you do something else, you can

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seriously affect it. So Tony, would you have

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some examples of how warmup could be constructed

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and how the skill practice could be used to then

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enhance performance? Yeah, sure. I mean, within

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the limits of the... fact that unfortunately

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we probably don't have enough research actually

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looking at the whole warmer its construction

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and its outcomes right is that we know that Muscle

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temperature is really important. And I think

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we'll probably talk about that very briefly.

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Actually, let's just cover it now because it's

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so quick and easy. When you have an increase

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in muscle temperature, it comes from two things

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mainly. One is you get more blood flow and the

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blood sitting deep in your body is really warm.

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So when it flows out to your muscles, that blood

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is warmer than your muscles because your muscles

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are on the periphery. So they're losing heat

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all the time. So you get a blood flow and that

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warm blood warms your muscles. The second thing

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is your muscles are working. And when they're

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working, they're generating energy. because all

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of your cell processes are not very efficient

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and so every time they're happening they're releasing

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lots of heat and so everything warms up and the

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good thing is between the blood flow and just

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that metabolic heat is that that increases the

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rate at which some of your enzymes work and particularly

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an important enzyme an ATPase which cleaves ATP

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apart it gives you energy for muscle contraction

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it's really common that most not all but most

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of your enzymes work faster under slightly higher

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temperatures. And if those enzymes, which are

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basically little things that speed up chemical

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reactions, if those enzymes can speed up your

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chemical reactions, you can cross -bridge cycle

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faster. And so it makes sense that temperature

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improves performance and it does it mostly by

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increasing the speed at which you can cycle or

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therefore the speed at which your muscles shorten.

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So while the increase in water appears to be

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really a force -based mechanism, remember power

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is force times velocity, so that helps, the temperature

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appears to be more of a velocity -based mechanism.

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And this is really important to think about because

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in people doing really high -speed movements

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or people who have lots of fast twitch fibers

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where they should be capable of high speed, that

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increase in temperature should be more important.

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And just increasing the muscle temperature by

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one degree, which doesn't take a lot of contractions,

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can improve power by about 5%. I mean, 5 % is

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massive, right? Do the math. If you could do,

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say, 10%, you'd run 100 meters like a whole second

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quicker. So 5 % is a massive gain in power, right?

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So temperature is critical. We've already talked

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about motor control, so coordination and massive...

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top or peak activation, temperature and water.

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And they're the three things that we really believe

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matter the most. So where does this leave us

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for a warmup? Well, you can do a general warmup

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if you like. I mean, if you just want to go for

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an easy run or sit on an exercise bike or sit

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on a rower because it's whole body and going

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to actually warm up more of the things and you

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just do a five minute easy row or whatever, you

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can do that. That will elevate the temperature

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of the body, elevate the muscle temperature,

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increase blood flow. Perfect. But at some point

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you have to start doing the lifting. Because

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only when you do that can you get maximal, highly

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coordinated activation practice. Of course, an

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Olympic lift is really complicated. So you might

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start off with just doing the deadlift portion

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of it, some press parts of it. You know, you're

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walking around and you're just practicing all

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the different bits, making sure you feel like

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you've got your appropriate range of motion.

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If you want to do some higher range of motion

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stuff to improve your mobility briefly or do

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some stretching, yes, you can. I know that's

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another podcast, but you can do some brief stretching.

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won't affect your weightlifting performance.

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But if it makes you feel like you're able to

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get in your positions better, then that will

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benefit performance. And then you've got to keep

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on. pulling the complex task together and you've

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got to keep on getting faster and faster until

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you're lifting a pretty good load at your absolute

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fastest effort through the full lift because

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that's perfect practice. By the way, and this

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is where the research isn't so great, we know

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that mental imagery is really, really useful.

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What we probably don't know is if you do the

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mental imagery in addition to the perfect practice,

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does it augment performance more? Most of us

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who train in the gym say yes. If you're doing

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a heavy bench press, The very first rep is always

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better if you've just done some mental imagery.

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So we think mental imagery could be important.

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And that's why I'm sure some of your lifters

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go out onto the platform and the last thing they're

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doing is doing their internal imagery, right?

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So that's what a warmup will do. It will make

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you feel better. It will give you the appropriate

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ranges of motion. It will increase your muscle

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temperatures. a light sweat is a nice place to

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be. It will then give you practice at a highly

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complicated skill, which by the way, might require

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you to build it up from simple movements to the

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whole movement. And it will give you maximal

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rate of activation of your muscles, which is

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completely exceptionally important for weightlifting.

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That whole thing could take you half an hour,

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45 minutes, depending how much time you leave

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between your practice lifts. By the way, in a

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lot of research then, if you look at research

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looking at PAPE, you're lucky if the warmup lasts

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five to 10 minutes, even if they say a specific

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warmup was done. So it's really important to

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read the research and say, is this actually a

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warmup that I would do before a competition?

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And therefore, do I know whether this conditioning

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activity, this extra cool, sexy thing is actually

00:23:34.970 --> 00:23:37.170
going to work on my day? And if you're not sure,

00:23:37.450 --> 00:23:39.490
You can test it yourself. Be your own test subject

00:23:39.490 --> 00:23:41.549
and see whether it works for you because everyone's

00:23:41.549 --> 00:23:43.430
different, right? And things are going to work

00:23:43.430 --> 00:23:45.569
differently for everyone. So what you need to

00:23:45.569 --> 00:23:47.650
do is replicate your competition in training

00:23:47.650 --> 00:23:50.430
and actually see which type of warm -up works

00:23:50.430 --> 00:23:52.589
best for you and whether something funky and

00:23:52.589 --> 00:23:55.069
cool is beneficial. Sounds good. The other part

00:23:55.069 --> 00:23:58.049
in the research is that we talked a little bit

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off camera is that research studies have respondents

00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:04.650
and non -respondents, but not only that, people

00:24:04.650 --> 00:24:07.589
are responding to a different degree. So if we

00:24:07.589 --> 00:24:09.769
are running a study, we are usually reporting

00:24:09.769 --> 00:24:12.829
means for the group. So this is where, okay,

00:24:12.890 --> 00:24:16.210
overall, on average, this is what we are expecting

00:24:16.210 --> 00:24:20.430
to happen. But individual may be on this end

00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:23.750
or this end or anywhere in the middle or even

00:24:23.750 --> 00:24:26.430
can be an outlier. So be somewhere else for whatever

00:24:26.430 --> 00:24:29.670
reason. So it is always important to, okay, this

00:24:29.670 --> 00:24:32.109
is what we see in research, but this is how it

00:24:32.109 --> 00:24:34.650
will relate to you. And you only know that after

00:24:34.650 --> 00:24:37.640
testing that approach. protocol or the thing

00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:39.799
that was tested for yourself. Yeah, perfect.

00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:41.700
So that's really important because it's really

00:24:41.700 --> 00:24:44.500
nice to think that your listeners are actually

00:24:44.500 --> 00:24:46.680
jumping on Google Scholar and trying to find

00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:48.619
the research and talking to people about them

00:24:48.619 --> 00:24:50.960
and looking for themselves. That's a really good

00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:52.660
thing to do. So when you're doing that, there

00:24:52.660 --> 00:24:54.380
are a few things you need to watch out for. One

00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:56.539
of them you mentioned is that when we do research

00:24:56.539 --> 00:24:59.500
studies, we often tell you how on average everyone

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:01.440
moved. We tell you something about the variability

00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.500
of that, but we're not always looking at individuals.

00:25:05.099 --> 00:25:07.319
say, oh, on average, they did this. And yeah,

00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.220
there was a bit of variability there. Of course,

00:25:09.220 --> 00:25:11.680
what that really tells us is that everyone needs

00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.220
to actually look at that and go, it appears as

00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:17.039
though this might help. But until I test it myself

00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:20.039
under the right conditions, I'm never going to

00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:22.339
actually know if it helps me because it could

00:25:22.339 --> 00:25:24.680
hinder you. And we see this a lot. We see that

00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.880
with certain strength training programs and certain

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:28.900
endurance training programs, we have what we

00:25:28.900 --> 00:25:31.259
call non -responders. And some of them are not

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:33.119
responding the way you would expect. And that's

00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:34.980
really important for you to know. it right for

00:25:34.980 --> 00:25:37.480
you but there's another problem here in some

00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.470
research studies Of course, researchers are aware

00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:42.309
of this problem and they'll say, hey, look, there

00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:45.150
is a variability. I'm going to show you that

00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:47.410
there were some people who responded positively

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and these people were below the average. They

00:25:50.009 --> 00:25:52.609
didn't respond positively. But that's also a

00:25:52.609 --> 00:25:55.829
big problem in research because every test has

00:25:55.829 --> 00:25:58.349
an unreliability. It's not just the test here

00:25:58.349 --> 00:25:59.950
that is a little bit unreliable. It was also

00:25:59.950 --> 00:26:01.789
the first test, the pre -test that was a bit

00:26:01.789 --> 00:26:04.390
unreliable. So now the change that you're looking

00:26:04.390 --> 00:26:07.829
for is doubly unreliable. And by the way, on

00:26:07.829 --> 00:26:10.869
the day. you are also unreliable the subject

00:26:10.869 --> 00:26:13.690
themselves is unreliable because they might have

00:26:13.690 --> 00:26:16.069
lost motivation at the end of the study or they

00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:18.250
might have not been as motivated at the start

00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:20.269
of the study or they were chatting to the researcher

00:26:20.269 --> 00:26:22.430
about something in the pre -testing but at post

00:26:22.430 --> 00:26:24.690
-testing they were fully focused and so humans

00:26:24.690 --> 00:26:28.069
themselves are unreliable and all that unreliability

00:26:28.069 --> 00:26:29.890
is in there so you can't just say look these

00:26:29.890 --> 00:26:31.930
people are non -responders because they didn't

00:26:31.930 --> 00:26:34.250
go up the only way to know if they were non -responders

00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:37.089
or if these people were responders is to test

00:26:37.089 --> 00:26:40.279
them more multiple times, at least three, probably

00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:43.779
at least four. And if they get the same response

00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:47.160
four times out of four, that's probably their

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.940
actual true response. So we got to, yes, think

00:26:49.940 --> 00:26:51.720
about the individual, but if you read a paper

00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.240
that just said there were responders and non

00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.440
-responders, you can't necessarily believe that

00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.619
that's the case. And even if you test it on yourself,

00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:01.480
you probably should test it at least twice. You'll

00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.119
know whether you were fully motivated, fully

00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.279
warmed up, same time of day, blah, blah, blah.

00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.160
At least do it twice. if not three times to find

00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.500
out whether it is repeatably and reliably good

00:27:11.500 --> 00:27:14.759
or bad for you. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay.

00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.259
One more aspect I wanted to ask you about is

00:27:17.259 --> 00:27:21.640
timeframes. So what timeframe would we expect

00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.599
for temperature, for water content and for skill

00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.660
practice? How in minutes? So, you know, if you're

00:27:28.660 --> 00:27:31.359
trying to make the perfect warmup, how you should

00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.440
be thinking about how long the temperature will

00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.279
be lasting for? And how long the water content

00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:41.180
will be lasting for or how? This is a really

00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:43.579
good question. Do you know, I'm not aware of

00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:46.160
a single study that has properly done this, where

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.039
we say here is the full proper warmup. It might

00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:51.380
be over half an hour of exactly what Olympic

00:27:51.380 --> 00:27:53.359
guys are doing, girls are doing before they go

00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.140
out on the platform at the Olympic Games. Now

00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:58.140
let's test and see how long certain things are

00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:00.200
lasting. You'd have to get them in several times

00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.140
because you need a few different tests and they'll

00:28:02.140 --> 00:28:03.819
all affect each other, right? So it's not an

00:28:03.819 --> 00:28:05.609
easy study. You need good athletes. willing to

00:28:05.609 --> 00:28:07.349
give up the time you need to have the ability

00:28:07.349 --> 00:28:09.349
to do the tests and you probably need to get

00:28:09.349 --> 00:28:11.750
people in multiple times to do different tests

00:28:11.750 --> 00:28:14.089
on different days to build up the full picture

00:28:14.089 --> 00:28:16.670
i'm not aware of that being done what i can tell

00:28:16.670 --> 00:28:19.049
you in our lab is that when we look at changes

00:28:19.049 --> 00:28:21.710
in muscle temperature changes in water mass we're

00:28:21.710 --> 00:28:24.529
doing it after just a few contractions just a

00:28:24.529 --> 00:28:26.809
few contractions are enough to increase temperature

00:28:26.809 --> 00:28:29.210
by a degree a degree and a half that's a lot

00:28:29.210 --> 00:28:32.210
it's enough to detectably change water we can

00:28:32.210 --> 00:28:34.930
see the muscle thickening we look at how a Electricity

00:28:34.930 --> 00:28:36.970
passes through your muscles and we see it change.

00:28:37.109 --> 00:28:38.890
We know that therefore there's a water change.

00:28:39.130 --> 00:28:42.109
And it looks like it's lasting eight to 10 minutes

00:28:42.109 --> 00:28:44.309
at least. So it means that if you finish your

00:28:44.309 --> 00:28:46.569
warmup and it takes a bit of time to get to the

00:28:46.569 --> 00:28:48.750
platform to do your lift, you're probably okay.

00:28:48.930 --> 00:28:51.789
But here's the thing. If you do a bigger amount

00:28:51.789 --> 00:28:54.930
of effort, so you do a harder warmup than just

00:28:54.930 --> 00:28:57.049
the few contractions we're doing in our experiments.

00:28:57.109 --> 00:28:59.509
If you're building up temperature over a slightly

00:28:59.509 --> 00:29:02.450
longer period of time, we do think that these

00:29:02.450 --> 00:29:05.180
effects are lasting even. longer. So 15 or 20

00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:09.660
minutes would not be unreasonable. So it looks

00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:11.700
like if you do your warmup out the back, by the

00:29:11.700 --> 00:29:13.200
time you come out the front, you've got most

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.859
of it, but that doesn't mean you've got all of

00:29:14.859 --> 00:29:17.500
it, right? So the question is, should I be doing

00:29:17.500 --> 00:29:20.000
something in the 30 seconds or one minute before

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.359
I... actually stand on the platform the answer

00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.440
is probably exactly what that is hard to tell

00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.160
probably it's something that rapidly activates

00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.039
your nervous system and your water and your temperature

00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.240
like a few vertical jumps but we don't want it

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:36.980
to be so specific that it can interfere so one

00:29:36.980 --> 00:29:38.880
thing you might do is just a couple of quick

00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.700
vertical jumps to get the temperature and the

00:29:40.700 --> 00:29:42.680
water back up but of course when you first get

00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:44.059
it out there the next thing you want to do is

00:29:44.059 --> 00:29:46.539
the mental imagery to make sure that your motor

00:29:46.539 --> 00:29:49.059
pattern is is has just been gone through in your

00:29:49.059 --> 00:29:51.490
brain now Now, I have to stress, we have never

00:29:51.490 --> 00:29:53.569
done the research and I haven't seen a study

00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:56.529
that has done this idea of a few jumps and then

00:29:56.529 --> 00:29:59.089
mental imagery and checked how that then makes

00:29:59.089 --> 00:30:01.230
you behave. Other things people are doing is

00:30:01.230 --> 00:30:03.650
trying to maintain passive temperature and a

00:30:03.650 --> 00:30:06.230
bit of water flow by doing the warmup and then

00:30:06.230 --> 00:30:09.210
putting hot stuff on them or putting extra clothing

00:30:09.210 --> 00:30:11.990
on that you only take off just as you're about

00:30:11.990 --> 00:30:14.849
to walk out. So the key is to find ways to maintain

00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.490
muscle temperature whilst not doing something

00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:20.329
that might... interfere with your motor patterns

00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:23.990
so passive heating could be really good after

00:30:23.990 --> 00:30:26.170
you finish your full warm -up just before you

00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:28.490
walk out onto the stage that's very useful thank

00:30:28.490 --> 00:30:30.190
you sorry i don't have all the perfect answers

00:30:30.190 --> 00:30:32.410
but that's that's science isn't it yeah i think

00:30:32.410 --> 00:30:35.869
it's it it gives us something to try so thank

00:30:35.869 --> 00:30:38.910
you so i will give you an opportunity to bring

00:30:38.910 --> 00:30:42.089
it all together so what would be your take -home

00:30:42.089 --> 00:30:45.450
message for coaches who try to prime the athletes

00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:47.890
or try to give them the best chance to perform

00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.740
specifically in power and strength sports, so

00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:53.279
one repetition maximum, what would be your take

00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.920
-home message? Okay. Well, the take -home is

00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.180
that most of it, of course, is in proper training,

00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:00.819
nutrition, sleep, and stress management before

00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:03.039
you even get there. All the basics, right? The

00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.059
basics are the key. Without talking about priming,

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.420
just the immediate sort of warm -up within the

00:31:08.420 --> 00:31:11.599
hour before competition or so, just go back to

00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.380
the basics of what a full, comprehensive, perfect

00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:16.700
warm -up should have to the best of our current

00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:18.700
understanding. And that is muscle temperature,

00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.400
probably water, maximal activation, perfect coordination.

00:31:22.819 --> 00:31:25.859
And of course, the psychology of being in that

00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:28.099
perfect state of psychology where you're not

00:31:28.099 --> 00:31:30.240
too stressed and not too understressed, which

00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.680
we haven't talked about. Once you do that and

00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.519
get that about right, at the moment that the

00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.519
possibility is that there are some little tricks

00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.000
and weird conditioning activities we might do

00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.099
that can enhance performance more. Well, I think

00:31:43.099 --> 00:31:45.559
it's a good news because we, you know, you always

00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.480
look for... tiny things but really if you get

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.779
the basics right if you warm up to a certain

00:31:50.779 --> 00:31:54.299
temperature and you hydrate it properly you and

00:31:54.299 --> 00:31:57.759
you practice skill with intention of being fast

00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.920
and powerful and explosive at skill like Olympic

00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.599
weightlifting snatch or pin and jerk where where

00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.920
these are the very complex but also fast movements

00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.519
so if you do that you're mostly there so I think

00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.119
it's a good news exactly and practice that practice

00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.170
that process over and over again. And once you

00:32:17.170 --> 00:32:19.569
like the process, that will also help you with

00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:22.170
your psychology, right? You won't get too nervous

00:32:22.170 --> 00:32:23.910
because you've been through the process a million

00:32:23.910 --> 00:32:25.589
times. You're just repeating it. But you'll be

00:32:25.589 --> 00:32:28.049
motivated because motivating is part of your

00:32:28.049 --> 00:32:30.269
process. And as your lifters know, when they're

00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.650
highly motivated but appropriate, that's when

00:32:32.650 --> 00:32:34.549
they do their best because you need a massive

00:32:34.549 --> 00:32:36.829
activation of the muscles and a lot of muscles.

00:32:36.950 --> 00:32:39.210
It's not just the knee extension, right? It really

00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:43.130
matters. I interviewed Tom Smiley on imagery

00:32:43.130 --> 00:32:45.829
specifically for weightlifting. how to do it

00:32:45.829 --> 00:32:49.150
from i want to do it to how to actually implement

00:32:49.150 --> 00:32:52.529
it so i think i may pair your interview with

00:32:52.529 --> 00:32:55.890
his so that people can get this this full combo

00:32:55.890 --> 00:32:59.549
physiology plus the the psychological part i

00:32:59.549 --> 00:33:01.250
think yeah no i get the whole package perfect

00:33:01.250 --> 00:33:04.059
sounds good Awesome. So I have two short questions

00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:06.259
to finish. The first one is, what is your favorite

00:33:06.259 --> 00:33:09.319
exercise, you personally? In the gym, that's

00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.359
a really good question. I have to say bench press

00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.039
because it's just the one thing where it has

00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.859
to always come down to a certain point, always

00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:16.940
up to a certain point. You can't fake it. It

00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:19.000
is what it is. Unfortunately, shoulders are starting

00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.859
to get a bit sore these days. Out of the gym,

00:33:20.940 --> 00:33:23.259
I'm a sprint runner and I love nothing more than

00:33:23.259 --> 00:33:26.779
the feeling of flowing during a high speed run.

00:33:26.940 --> 00:33:30.099
It feels amazing. It feels like I'm flying and

00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:32.299
so I can't better than a... nice sprint run.

00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.960
Awesome. And the last question is where people

00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.319
can find you if they want to follow your work,

00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.759
learn more or ask a question? Well, of course,

00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.259
you can type in Blazowicz into Google Scholar

00:33:42.259 --> 00:33:43.940
and find all the research because there aren't

00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:46.740
too many Blazowiczs. My Twitter or ex -handle

00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:50.000
is Tony Blazowicz. I think it's one word, at

00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.299
wherever. And that'd be the same for Instagram,

00:33:52.460 --> 00:33:54.839
although I don't use Instagram a lot. So LinkedIn

00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.759
should be all the same thing. If you search for

00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.500
Tony Blazowicz, you should be able to find everything.

00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.500
Awesome, Tony. Thank you so much for the day.

00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.200
a pleasure my pleasure good to chat to you good

00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:04.859
luck with everything cheers thank you
