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Don't get frustrated if your mind wanders while

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you're doing it, right? So a lot of times athletes

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will try to listen to the script, but their mind

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will wander and they're like, oh, I didn't get

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fully immersed. Okay, take note, right? Mind

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wandered at three minutes and 37 seconds. What

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were you thinking about? What was going on, right?

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And then the next day you try again, right? And

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over time, you're able to start focusing more.

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Hi, Tom. It's my pleasure to have you on Evidence

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Strong Show for the second time. And today we're

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talking imagery for Olympic weightlifting performance.

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But before we go into the woods, please briefly

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introduce yourself. Yeah, definitely. Thanks

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for having me again. This is one of my favorite

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topics. I know when I had mentioned it the first

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time we recorded, we were like, oh, now we have

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to do a part two because it's a good topic for

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especially for weightlifters and any athletes.

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Yeah, I'm Tom Smalley. I'm a certified mental

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performance consultant. I own my own private

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practice, struggle in the strength performance,

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helping high performers of all sports be their

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best when their best is required. And so that's

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kind of, we believe that challenges are the catalyst

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for growth. And we like to show how that happens.

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There's a process to that and it's through a

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lot of hard work, but mindset really does make

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a difference in high performance. All right.

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And today we're covering one of the techniques

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in Marjorie and let's go through some kind of

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definitions. so we know what we're talking about.

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Yeah, totally. A good place to start is that

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mental imagery gets kind of misconstrued with

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visualization, right? So visualization, the idea

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of mental imagery is you're using all of your

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senses, right? And because we're using our senses,

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it creates a more real experience when we're

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practicing it. And so visualization only thinks

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of the visual aspect, right, and a sight. But

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mental imagery, we're trying to use the feel,

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the hearing. The I mean, for some, like it could

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be the taste. It could be the the kinesthetic

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awareness. Right. So we're trying to bring all

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of those things in. Right. And into this one

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script that we're building for mental imagery

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to practice. And so that's what mental imagery

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really is, is is using all of your senses to

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experience and replicate a moment to reinforce

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better behaviors. And so, you know, I think the

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thing that people don't understand is there's

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different types. Right. So there's two sections

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of mental imagery and that's. cognitive mental

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imagery and motivational. And so cognitive is

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going to be more about skill execution and strategy

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and tactical planning, right? And then the motivational

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aspect of imagery, that specific subtype is more

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confidence, resilience -based, seeing achievement,

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seeing you put success together, overcoming obstacles.

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So both are very beneficial. And I think, especially

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in weightlifting, in this sport, I'd... say both

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are equally beneficial and when i have a weightlifter

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make a script largely it's there's going to be

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some cognitive skill execution mental imagery

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and some motivational parts too is there a framework

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and how to go about it because it's easy to say

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or imagine with all your senses something that

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is beneficial for your performance but for the

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person who has never done it this is a huge leap

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to take a huge gap to bridge so how how should

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we go about it something i really like to emphasize

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is especially when I start working with a client

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that I identify maybe would benefit from mental

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imagery is like, hey, this is not gonna be like,

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we create this mental imagery script, you read

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it and you're gonna be all great and everything's

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awesome and it's gonna work immediately, right?

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This is just like a snatch or a clean and jerk,

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right? Or any sort of technique you learn in

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sport and the skill acquisition, it's a skill

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that you have to practice and acquire, right?

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The ability to actually use your senses in the

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imaginary experience, right? And so a lot of

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what I do is, In my approach with my clients,

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I like to almost start with non -sports related

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imagery scripts, like thinking of, for example,

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I use this with a quarterback I worked with.

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It was a script of him on the beach, but it was

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really just practicing using our senses in that

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actual experience so that when we built his actual

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mental imagery script of the fourth quarter and

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leading a drive, he was actually able to know

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how to use his senses in there, right? Because

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using your senses in mental imagery is a skill

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you have to acquire over time. It's something

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you actually have to practice. So for a weightlifter,

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I might use a mental imagery script of like,

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you know, you're outside at a park and you hear

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birds chirping or whatever it may be, right?

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And we might practice just using the senses.

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And then we have a rating scale of each sensory

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checklist and say on a scale of one to five,

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one being the lowest or five being the highest.

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How well did I use my hearing? How well did I

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use my... my kinesthetic, right? How well did

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I use my sight, right? And then we rate them.

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And then over time, as we keep practicing, the

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intention is to improve over time of being able

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to use those things better and better. But a

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lot of times, like we won't even start with a

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mental imagery experience based in their sport,

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because if they don't have the skill to apply

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into that, then they're not going to receive

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the stimulus that they need from that. All right.

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So the first step would be to try to recreate

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some... Totally. Yeah, definitely. So my first

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step usually is, you know, I like to ask them.

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More ask them questions, right? About like, hey,

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what's something you're trying to work for? So

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identifying the goal behind the mental imagery

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first, right? So before you even dive into which

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experience you want to replicate, it's, hey,

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what are you working towards? What specific situation

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or performance would you like to mentally prepare

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for, right? And then if the example is stepping

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up to the bar confidently during my first snatch,

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right? So that's their goal. Then we go to step

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two, right? And it's selecting the imagery touch.

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right? Checking the boxes that match the needs

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of the client, right? Is your script going to

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be more cognitive based, right? Cognitive specific,

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meaning skill execution, or cognitive general,

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meaning strategy and tactics. Usually in weightlifting,

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we're going to see cognitive specific, right?

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Skill execution is largely the main portion of

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the sport, right? You know, obviously the strength

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aspect is important too, and the mental aspect,

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but like skill execution, if you don't know how

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to do the lifts, we can't do them, right? So

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a lot of what we're going to see is is skill

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execution and cognitive specific mental imagery.

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So we'll check that box, right? And then we start

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working on what that looks like. And then we

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think about, okay, do we want any of the motivational

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imagery too? Like what personal goal are we striving

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for? Do we want to put ourselves in a situation

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of achieving it in detail? The podium, the handshake,

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the feeling of slamming the bar, right? Like

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those things really reproduce that moment and

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make us actually have the same neural. response

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as if it was happening in real life. And so the

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more descriptive, the better, right? And so,

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you know, we dive into the which types of motivational

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imagery, right? So motivational specific, right?

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Could be that achieving the goal. Motivational

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general could be emotional control. Do you want

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to write in your mental imagery script? Do you

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want to maybe feel calm or focused or energized?

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What emotional state do you want to feel, right?

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Breathing, body language, heart rate, and then

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the motivation. general mastery, right? It's

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what challenges might come up. Do you want to

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see yourself overcoming them, right? Picturing

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yourself staying composed, staying in control,

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right? Focusing on your breathing, all of those

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things. And then that's when we start, when we

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take those things, all those bullet notes that

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we took, then we start putting that script together.

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All right, how do you decide which, because all

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of this sounds amazing, I want all of this, but

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probably I will not benefit from all of it equally

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because it would take me three hours to visualize.

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some of the aspects. So how you go about choosing?

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Yeah, no, it's a really good question. I think

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it's, we usually ask ourselves when, what's important

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now? Like what's, what's the most pressing challenge

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we're facing right now? And then we'll, we'll

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address that one in like, what have we been struggling

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with the most? And that's the, that's the one

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we're going to attack with the mental imagery

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the most, right? So if it, if it was, you know,

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the first, I tend to miss my first snatch. Okay.

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We're going to do one on the first snatch and

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then we're going to master that one and really

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be super descriptive. and super specific. And

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then once you feel, once you start making your

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first snatches, you feel comfortable, then we

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can move on to another one. And then also as

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they get more competent, right? In that skill

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-based learning of mental imagery, you could

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have two, you know, I have some weightlifters

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that I work with that have one for their first

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snatch and one for their first clean and jerk,

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right? And then I have some that just have one

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for the overall meat day, right? And going into

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the meat and not actually doing the lifts, right?

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So that's more like motivational and arousal

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regulation. So it really differs. depends on

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what the client's needs are. And that's for myself

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as the CMPC and the client to decide, right?

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It's a collaborative approach. What do you, you

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know, what do you feel like you really are missing?

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But I agree with you that, you know, all of it

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sounds great, but throwing everything at once

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is never the answer. I think in any time we're

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learning any skill, it's segmenting it and, and

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learning the process of it is going to be more,

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they're going to get more out of doing less way

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better than doing way more and doing at a, at

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a. less degree like as less experience level

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all right so we have some kind of structure and

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and framework how to think about imagery could

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we maybe go through the example let's say let's

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go with the first snatch imagery how just an

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example of course it will not be personal you

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know we don't know why the person struggles at

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the first snatch or maybe they don't struggle

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but they want to be less nervous for the totally

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how would you go about putting these elements

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of cognitive and motivational into this imagery

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yeah so essentially you know what i have them

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do and you know i'm always happy to guide them

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through it as they're writing it but i really

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like for them to sit down and and think about

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that moment right so what i like what i really

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have them do is like i'll have them actually

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have a checklist of all their sensory right so

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it'll go through visual what you see right and

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it'll be a little table right sense visual what

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you see included question mark and then auditory

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sounds included question mark right and there'll

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be a little Box to check. Emotional. A factory

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or, you know, smells, tastes, if relevant, obviously.

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Kinesthetic. Is it included? Right. So they have

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boxes to check as they're writing it. So it gives

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them a parameter of like, oh, maybe I should

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add in something else about how the bar feels

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in my hand because I didn't get enough kinesthetic

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in there. Right. So it reinforces. But just like

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when we used to write essays for college, like

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you just do revisions and revisions. And then

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when we decide, OK, it's thorough enough, it's

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specific enough, then. we can actually start.

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So some people like for me to record it and read

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it. And so they can listen to it. And some athletes

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like to record it themselves and listen to it.

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And then some just like to read it beforehand.

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But essentially, we try to have them write it.

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And usually when they the first time they give

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it back, it's usually not descriptive enough.

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And that's the expectation. I really emphasize

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like, hey, I want you to be I want you to go

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overboard on description. Right. I want it to

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be every detail possible. Right. That you're

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that comes that you feel is important in that

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moment that you're expressing. So I think it

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comes with trial and error and obviously having

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a somebody that's educated and experienced like

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myself or another CNBC or sports like like to

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really guide you through that kind of stuff.

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But I think really like doing a I have my athletes

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set a timer like, hey, here's 20 minutes. I want

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you to write down everything that comes to your

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mind about that moment. And then we'll figure

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out the details of where to piece them together

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later. Right. But I also, you know, another another

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strategy if if if an athlete has really bad writer's

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block for mental imagery is. Hey, I want you

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to write 10 to 15 minutes of the best competition

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experience you ever had. And I want you to write

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as much detail as possible, because if we write

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the best competition experience we ever had with

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detail, we're probably going to reinforce the

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best things possible. Right. So that really helps

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get them when you can relate it to a past experience

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that they had. It gets their their mind flowing

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a little bit more. And because it's daunting

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to just get a piece of paper or notepad and to

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start writing about and trying to, like, understand

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how you should write it. But if I tell an athlete,

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hey, tell me about that. competition you had

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and where you thrived and you faced resilience

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and you overcame challenges. And give me as much

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detail as possible with these senses. They're

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usually like, OK, awesome. I get to talk about

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myself. I get to write about myself and relive

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this experience. That sounds great. So that is

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a really good way to get the mind flowing of

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ideas of what you would want in there. But yeah,

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it's a really good way to, one, reflect on what

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you, sometimes athletes realize, oh, this went

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really well, but this is actually something I

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want to improve on, right? And so it also brings

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in reflection, which I think is super powerful.

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When you choose between cognitive and motivational,

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is there a balance you have to strike? Is it

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personal? How do you decide on that? Really depending

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on the client. I think when they describe their

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problem, right? Is it a, I get the yip, right?

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And I clark. Or is it a, like, so for example,

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I've used mental imagery for athletes that clark

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with cleans or snatches, right? They pull it

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and don't get underneath, right? In that aspect,

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we understand that, okay, there might be more

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of a motivation. aspect of confidence getting

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under the bar, right? And it might be more beneficial

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to do it that way and add more of that in. It

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also could be said to be more cognitive because

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you want to produce more force and be conscious

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of that and experience that, right? So I think

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it's super dependent on the athlete. That's why,

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especially with weightlifting, I feel like it's

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really important to incorporate both because

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I think it proves very valuable to see. or to

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reimagine an experience of success, right? There's

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no better predictor for confidence than achievement,

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right? The reality is the more frequently you

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do something successfully, the more confident

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you're gonna be you're gonna do it again, right?

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That's just human nature. But if we can do that

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in mental imagery, it's pretty beneficial, right?

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So I think, but then the other aspect is like,

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I think there's a lot of benefit to when you're

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a new lifter, especially new lifters and new

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to a sport, cognitive mental imagery can be super

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beneficial. the learning process too. It gives

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you opportunity to do what you want your body

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to do. Right, right. It's reinforcing everything

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you're learning. And it sends the same neurotransmitters,

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right, that you get from doing it in person.

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So I think when we're thinking about like nerves

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for a competition, I do think motivational is

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super beneficial, especially with the aspect

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of like emphasizing the staying in control and

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breathing and stuff in the back room. I think

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that can be super beneficial when we're still

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learning the lifts and or make it maybe you're

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making technical changes i think mental imagery

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cognitive can be more beneficial there there

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in those instances because it's all about skill

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acquisition and i think it's what's cool is it

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applies to every sport too right it's because

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every sport has a has a skill that's that's learned

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right but i think with weightlifting especially

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right such a skill -based sport that cognitive

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is true does prove to be very beneficial all

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right in terms of motivational could we talk

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a little bit more about that, how to calm nerves,

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how to feel confident on the platform, going

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to this first lift or going to the third one

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after to miss, you know, just how to feel, how

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to use imagery to support these type of situations.

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Yeah, definitely. So I think, you know, I had

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someone tell me once that as a practitioner,

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that they didn't use mental imagery with their

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clients because it could go negatively in their

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mind, right? And to me, that's avoidance of adversity,

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right? So the reality is... We could do mental

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imagery and still fail, right? There's no doubt

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about that. But if we practice the skill of being

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confident in a situation, when we get into that

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situation, we're going to be more confident,

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right? And so I love using mental imagery because

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I think it reinforces. the positive thing happening,

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right? If you train it right and develop the

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skill to fully immerse yourself in that experience,

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I think there's so many benefits to it. So I

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think knowing that like, you know, setting the

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expectation of like, hey, this doesn't guarantee

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anything, but this is what this is going to guarantee

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is that you're going to be more confident on

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competition day, right? And you're going to be

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more prepared, right? And the second biggest

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predictor to confidence is preparation, right?

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The more you prepare, the more confident you're

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going to be. Right. And so I think right there,

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that tells me how valuable mental imagery is,

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especially from a motivational aspect. Right.

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In terms of, you know, the details of what we

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include in motivational mental imagery, I've

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had athletes where it's more focused on staying

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emotionally in control. Right. After a miss.

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So I actually have had athletes that aren't trying

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to avoid thinking about missing. Right. It's

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more about, oh, I just missed. Now what? Right.

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How am I going to respond? So, you know, to the

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practitioners, they get worried about maybe their

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clients or, you know, their athletes going south

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and then thinking about missing. Yeah, that's

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possible. But you also need to allow space for

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adversity to exist. Right. We can't live in a

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make believe land of things always going right.

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So allowing the emotions to be felt of, hey,

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I just missed. OK, what's my plan now? And then

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using. mental imagery to kind of curate your

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response to how you deal with missing a snatch

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or a clean and jerk, how you walk up to the stage

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on that third attempt, even if you just missed

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your first two, right? I think those are super

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special situations that mental imagery is actually

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super beneficial for. And I mean, like, listen,

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I think, you know, another thing about self -doubt

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and maybe mental imagery going wrong is we don't

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want to suppress that, right? The more we suppress

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that, the more we're going to think about it.

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it. Right. If I told somebody to not think of

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missing a snatch, what are they going to do?

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They're going to think of missing a snatch immediately

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because that's what's going to pop into their

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head. And so the more we suppress maybe failure

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or making mistakes, the more we're going to worry

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about it and think about it. Right. And so I

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like to use the analogy of of you're a bus driver.

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Right. And all these thoughts that you're having

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are on the bus with you. Right. And some of them

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are great thoughts of achieving success. And

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some of them are saying, hey, you're going to

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miss your first three attempts. Right. Neither

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are going to, you know, obviously the good ones

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are going to benefit you more if you give more

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energy to them. And, you know, the self -defeating

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ones like the missing snatches are going to probably

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drag you down. But you've made space for them

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on your bus and the passenger seats. But you're

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the bus driver of your of your mind. Right. And

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your emotional control. And so it's defining

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what your values are. who you want to show up

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as, as an athlete. And as outcome aside, who

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do you want to show up as an athlete? And then

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deciding to drive towards those values and not

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letting those passengers thoughts, right? Say,

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hey, stop here, pull over here, right? Because

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that's what those self -doubt thoughts are trying

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to do. They're trying to get you to stop the

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bus here, stop the bus here, right? But you're

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driving towards your values. And that's what

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mental imagery is, is re -imagining experiences,

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right? That are values -based and in line with

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who you want to show up at. So as long as we're

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making those experiences, especially the motivational

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aspect, right, in line with our values of what

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we want to achieve and what our goals are and

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who we want to show up as, your mental imagery

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isn't going to go south. I have two comments

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on it. One is that sounds like a focus on process

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and practicing who you want to be as a person

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in general, but specifically in relation to how

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you want to show up as an athlete. And the second

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thought is what a cheat code for... getting good

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reps in, doing the best you can, performing the

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best you can. You can just repeat it again and

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again. Right, right. There's no, right? It's

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not going to fatigue your body, right? So it's

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like, why wouldn't we use this, right? You're

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right. It's exactly what you say it is. It's

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a cheat code, right? And a lot of stuff with

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mindset and mental performance is a cheat code,

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right? Because that's the aspect of things that

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people aren't usually training diligently, right?

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We'll train our explosiveness and our strength

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and our... our technique and our mobility, right?

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Everybody will do extra body work, right? But

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like how many are really doing serious, diligent,

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tracked mental work, right? Like, so like when

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I work with a client, it's all documented. It's

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all, there's a plan to things. It's not just,

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hey, we're going to meet once a week. Like it's,

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hey, you're going to go home with stuff. You're

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going to work on this, right? And I think, like

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you said, it's a cheat code to unlocking a new

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level to yourself. And so to me, it's a no -brainer,

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right? But yeah, I think it really depends. Depends

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on the person what you're going to put into the

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script. Right. And, you know, I think you want

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it to be substantial enough where they're spending

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time really like if it's too short, it's very

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hard to get into a flow state in mental imagery.

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Right. And get into a state of really being able

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to identify your senses. So I think there has

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to be some some length to it, too, like at least

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a couple of paragraphs. Right. And the details

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matter. All right. Would you have any pointers

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on what to avoid? when we create imagery script.

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Yeah, I think the main thing is one, keep the

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main thing the main thing, right? So don't try

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to add things that are not relevant, right? So

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if your challenge you're facing is feeling too

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anxious for clean and jerks after snatches, like

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probably don't start in warmups, right? You could

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probably start after your last snatch or like,

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you know, so don't make it so long that like

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you're losing the idea of what you're actually

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doing. you trying to work on? Right. So that's

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where that first step of like identifying the

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challenge you're working on is really crucial.

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And then I would say the second the second piece

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of advice would be keep a sensory checklist near

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you as you're writing. All right. Do we cover

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all the things we should be avoiding? I think

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so. I think so. I would say something you should

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do would be like make sure you're practicing

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it. Right. So don't just write the script and

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then expect to be able to like immerse yourself

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in it like the day of competition. Right. Because

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you want to use it before competition. and to

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be able to, you know, maybe the night before,

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the morning of, whatever it may be, at weigh

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-ins, right? You have this at your disposal,

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but don't expect yourself to be able to get into

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that if you haven't practiced it, right? It's

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like expecting yourself to go hit a PR clean

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and jerk when you haven't been training hard.

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So we have to reinforce these skills. So what

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I have my clients do is, hey, we're going to

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do a mental imagery script about training on

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Friday, your big Friday. And we're going to start

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preparing, like let's apply it in training first

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so that when you get to competition, you're not

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lost. Right. All right. So. Let's bring it all

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together now and let's build three main points

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about imagery for Olympic weightlifters. Yeah.

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So I think the first main point that I would

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say is identifying what goal or challenge that

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you're trying to achieve or obstacle you're trying

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to get past. Right. Or bounce back from. Right.

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What are you trying to use mental imagery for?

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Right. Identify the moment. Identify the challenge.

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Then the second aspect would be obviously identifying

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what aspects. of the subtypes of mental imagery

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that you're going to incorporate. Is it more

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cognitive? Is it more motivational? Is it a mix

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of both, right? And then writing your script,

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revising it, and really using that checklist

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of, oh, I need more hearing. I need more auditory.

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I need more kinesthetic. So those are the steps,

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right? And then the second aspect would be don't

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get frustrated if your mind wanders while you're

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doing it, right? So a lot of times athletes will

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try to listen to the script, but their mind will

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wander and they're like, oh, I didn't get fully

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immersed. OK, take note. Right. Mind wandered

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at three minutes and 37 seconds. What were you

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thinking about? What was going on? Right. And

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then the next day you try again. Right. And over

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time, you're able to start focusing more. Today

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in society, we have extremely short attention

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spans. Right. And that's just the reality of

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it, because everything's at our fingertips. Right.

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And everything is a lot of there's a lot of instant

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gratification. So naturally, our mind is going

00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:18.519
to wander more and the younger athletes, their

00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.980
mind wanders more. Right. So learning to stay

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this. not only does mental injury reinforce an

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experience of competition or training or whatever

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obstacle they're facing and getting past that,

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but they also are practicing focus, right? And

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focus on a moment. So there's multiple benefits.

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But yeah, don't get frustrated. You know, I think

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that's, I've seen that happen is, and also don't

00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:43.190
get frustrated if you do mental injury and then

00:24:43.190 --> 00:24:46.089
you don't have the success you want in competition,

00:24:46.170 --> 00:24:48.589
right? Like there's not a direct, necessarily

00:24:48.589 --> 00:24:50.910
like a direct correlation between if you, do

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this, you're guaranteed to PR or you're guaranteed

00:24:53.730 --> 00:24:55.569
to have success, right? This is just another

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tool in the toolbox that is obviously beneficial

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and to me is a cheat code to improving performance.

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But I don't want people to take this as like,

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hey, I did my mental imagery every night and

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I didn't PR, right? And that doesn't mean to

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not to stop doing it after that happens, right?

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That just gives me more of a reason to do it.

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Oh, I still didn't get the hang. I did my mental

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imagery and I didn't have success that I wanted.

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But I'm going to keep at it because if you keep

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at it, you're going to have success. And also,

00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:27.319
if you've done the work right, something's changed

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within you. So you are a different person, whatever

00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:34.339
the outcome is. So totally. Yes, 100 percent.

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I'm glad you said that because I actually had

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someone ask me, you know, I have a lot of athletes

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where, you know, necessarily they set a very

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large goal and I'm all for it. And maybe they

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don't reach that large goal along the journey.

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But then that doesn't mean that journey was all

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for. nothing. I mean, look at all the amazing

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things. I always say like, look at all the amazing

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things you accomplished along the way and look

00:25:54.980 --> 00:25:57.019
at who you became because of that goal you were

00:25:57.019 --> 00:25:58.920
chasing. Right. So it doesn't mean necessarily

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that it was all for nothing. I think athletes

00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:03.619
tend to get in that all or nothing mindset. Like

00:26:03.619 --> 00:26:05.960
I put in all this work and, you know, I didn't

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get what I what I was trying for out of it. So

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it wasn't worth it. And that couldn't be further

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from the truth. Two short questions to finish.

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The first one is from your expertise, what would

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be the one mental skill you could give? to all

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weightlifters if you could? That's a great question.

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I do think, I think the ability, I think mindfulness

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would probably be my first. The ability to accept

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thoughts as thoughts and be able to diffuse them

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while in training or in competition and be able

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to control that arousal and emotional. emotional

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regulation i think that would be my first one

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because it's super applicable and then i think

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the second one would be 1a and then 1b would

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be mental imagery all right i'll give so i would

00:26:48.009 --> 00:26:50.029
say like that you know the first one's more is

00:26:50.029 --> 00:26:52.329
very applicable to in the moment. And then the

00:26:52.329 --> 00:26:54.009
second one is outside of the moment, something

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to practice. Awesome. We cover all the aspects.

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Yeah, all the spectrums. All right. Well, people

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can find you. Are you open for consultations?

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Can weightlifters reach out for your help? Yeah,

00:27:05.089 --> 00:27:07.450
absolutely. More than welcome to. You can find

00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:12.089
me on Instagram at S2SFOF. And then my website

00:27:12.089 --> 00:27:16.250
is www .struggleintostrength .com. Yeah, so absolutely.

00:27:16.609 --> 00:27:19.069
Always happy to. My DMs are always open. Happy

00:27:19.069 --> 00:27:20.990
to. answer questions. As you can see, I mean,

00:27:21.009 --> 00:27:23.769
I just talked about this for 50 minutes. So I'm

00:27:23.769 --> 00:27:26.289
a nerd for this stuff. I love this stuff so much.

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And I just really love helping athletes become

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better versions of themselves that they didn't

00:27:31.210 --> 00:27:33.130
really necessarily think they could become. So

00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:35.930
that's really why I got into my work at the end

00:27:35.930 --> 00:27:37.710
of the day. Awesome, Tom. Thank you so much for

00:27:37.710 --> 00:27:39.569
today. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me

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again.
