Welcome to Networking Unleashed, Building Profitable
Connections, the show where better conversations
lead to better opportunities. I'm your host,
Michael Foreman, and today we're talking about
a topic many professionals quietly avoid, money.
People will talk about marketing, strategy, branding,
and growth all day long, but the moment a real
financial conversation enters the room, the energy
changes. And yet business relationships, referrals,
partnerships, and opportunities are all connected
on how comfortable we are discussing value. My
guest today believes there is no shame in earning
a dollar. Money is simply a tool and relationships
you build affect your entire world, career, family,
decisions, and future direction. We're diving
into how your money mindset shapes your networking.
Avoiding financial conversations limits opportunity
and how honest discussions about how value can
actually strengthen trust. If you want clearer
conversations, stronger relationships, and opportunities
that make sense for your life, not just your
calendar, you're in the right place. So let's
dive into it. I'd like to welcome to the podcast,
Andrew. Andrew, you have a wealth. You have a
background in all of this. I'm not going to even
try to say what your background is. But could
you just say hello to my audience and give us
a little background of what you are and how you
got here? Thanks for inviting me on, Michael.
It's great to be here. Huge fan of your show.
Your audience is definitely in the right spot
to learn just. All the things that you try to
bring to the table are just amazing. And yeah,
welcome everyone. Great to be here. So yeah,
I have an interesting start, but I accidentally
became a financial advisor. Okay. I think that's
probably the case with most entrepreneurs where
you're going along and there was this constant
thread in my life where I was involved in biotech
and pharmaceutical before this. And this core
part of me was always, I wanted to be a member
of my community in the most helpful way possible.
I wanted to network. I wanted to grow. I wanted
to leave all these interactions of hopefully
everyone being better off than when we started.
In corporate America, it just came to pass where
I would get going with a company and it just
felt off or I just felt like something wasn't
quite right and I was always constant looking
for ways to learn to grow but I always felt that
disconnect and this couple years ago I had the
opportunity I sat down with myself I said okay
what do I want to learn for this year and one
of the things I wrote down was I wanted to learn
more about personal finance And I had a financial
advisor at the time, but it's still a struggle
for me. I didn't really still feel very comfortable
with it. I didn't know what I was doing. And
later that year, someone reached out to me and
said, Hey, have you ever thought about this as
a career? We think that you'd be a really good
fit. And I was like, you saw my background, right?
I was biology major. It's all science. I didn't
do money. And the more we talked, the more they.
made it very attractive for me to come on just
because I was going to have a more of a direct
impact with the community. I am now a business
owner and that was all part of me growing this
circle, this community around me that I wanted
everyone to be better. And man, I'm... Didn't
know anything about it. I didn't really know
what I got myself into, but I dove in headfirst
into the deep end. And I'm so grateful that I
did that and that I have the support system around
me that supported me in doing that. And it's
just been amazing. I found where I want to be
for the next 30 years. Good, good. It sounds
like you found a home. Yeah, absolutely. Good.
Okay, let me just dive right into the questions
I prepared for you. Sure. Many professionals
feel uncomfortable talking about money and conversations.
Why does that hesitation actually hurt their
networking more than they realize? I think in
any situation, when you're not comfortable with
a given topic, you know, body language communicates
so much, tone communicates so much. And the other
thing here that's underlying the surface is self
-worth. And money is not, if it was anything
like my childhood, we certainly had it, but I
didn't know anything about it. And it was not
polite to ask how much someone paid for a car.
It wasn't polite to ask for how much someone
paid for their dinner. You just didn't do it.
And when you're going through all this and you're
networking, you're having these conversations
with people, I would argue. whether you're talking
about finance or not, like you have a value to
the conversation. You deserve to be there. There's
equal stature between the two of you. And your
time is as valuable as the next person's because
we all have our different insights that we get
to bring to a conversation. And so having that
self -belief, having that self -confidence that,
hey, you belong, it could open you up to all
kinds of ideas. When you start talking, the conversation
flows and all of a sudden maybe there's a business
idea that pops up or someone that might be a
good fit for them. So maybe you're not the right
fit for a given role that's coming up, but someone
else that you know is. Those kinds of things
compound and the more comfortable you are with
yourself and the more at ease, I think those
conversations just develop much more naturally.
As you said, once you are confident in a person
as yourself, then Really, there's no telling
what you can do. The confidence is your first
level. And when you talked about introducing
somebody to somebody else, that's called being
a connector. You as a connector in the community
say, look, this person has this problem and this
person has the answer. You put the two of them
together and you backed away. That's being a
connector. That's being a true part of the community.
Yeah. You say there's no shame in the dollar.
How does a healthy view of money change the way
people build and maintain relationships? I would
say, I say there's no shame in the dollar because
a lot of times when I talk to people for the
first time in my role specifically, I hear a
lot of, I should have done this, or I could have
done that, or my mom or my dad said I should
get this done. Understand that what you've done
in the past is what it is, but where you want
to go, we can still impact. Someone in my kind
of position, like I'm not a plumber, so if the
pipes burst and the water's leaking out, not
a lot we can do about it. That's a bummer, and
I'll definitely sympathize with you. We can try
to do what we can, but there's not a lot that
we can do. So this just goes back to... you intrinsically
are a 10. You're listening to this, you are a
10 out of 10. And when we have this view of money
as a tool, as a lever to do other things, then
we begin to understand that you are likely your
biggest asset in your life. People think their
house is their most expensive thing, or they
have a piece of jewelry, or their car is like
their biggest asset. I would argue always it's
your ability to work, your ability to connect
people, your ability to add value to other people.
That's your number one asset. Because if you're
not able to do that, a lot of this other stuff
doesn't happen. We don't get to go on vacation.
We don't get to fix the roof. We don't get to
go down retirement. So our ability to work and
our ability to connect with other people and
other humans. So that's where I'd like to start
with people. And that's where I say there's no
shame in a dollar and that money is a tool because
you are the weapon that we're trying to hone
and to craft. Absolutely. I could have said it
better myself. If you look at money as a tool,
as one of the tools in your belt. then you really
can't go wrong. So you're a confident person.
You have the money as a tool and you use that
tool. There's no telling what you can do. It's
amazing. At what point should financial conversations
naturally enter a relationship without making
it feel transactional? That's a great question.
If you're listening to this and you're in your
20s, as much as it might suck to hear this, And
yeah, I know you want to go to Europe and to
Australia and all these wonderful, amazing places.
Do that, but start a habit. There are, you're
probably seeing everyone out there is things
are more expensive than other houses are more
expensive than ever. Having that conversation
earlier, time is your biggest asset when it comes
to investing, saving, whatever you want to call
it, right? Time wins always, right? You've, it's
just. the nature of how the markets work. And
so when you're having that conversation, certainly
with an employer, future employer, and you say,
hey, I'm thinking about coming to work here.
This is where I want to be against, this is what
I'm seeing as value. That's the conversation
I would have right away. If it's a conversation
with friends, certainly it does seem to be the
better and the more of a best friend that they
are, the less you talk about money. I don't know
why that seems to be a trend. I would say try
to reverse that. But I think it's one of those
situations I would encourage people, if you have
questions about it, and you trust the other person
that you're talking to, you think that they've
done well, or you think they've done something
that's interesting, ask them. Say, hey, I noticed
you've done this. If this is uncomfortable for
you, no worries. But I want to ask you, how did
you do that? And I think maybe just that's the
trick there is give them the chance to say no.
Usually if you give people the chance to say
no, they'll never say no. But if you give them
the chance to say no, it'll lower the barrier
a little bit and then you can back into that
conversation. Questions is always the root of
all knowledge, right? You have to ask the questions
in order to get the answer. If you approach somebody,
even on LinkedIn or something, and you say, you
know what, I just connected with you. That's
great. I've been following you. I have just a
couple of questions. Would you mind answering
my questions or having a virtual cup of coffee
or a cup of coffee? 99 .9 % times out of 100,
they'll say yes, because people are always willing
to share with you. Right. They're always saying,
look, they're coming to me. So I must know something.
But the other person is trying to learn. I always
suggest going, making a connection, asking questions.
If you're going to a networking event or a networking
meeting, ask questions. It's so much more. Plus,
the other person wants to give wants wants to
give you their knowledge. You're not even trying
to pull it. So that's. Yeah, I would say on that
note. be wary of some advice that you find online.
I think at least with terms of finances, apply
some healthy skepticism to it and understand
or try to understand where that person might
be coming from. Unfortunately, some of the reputation
the financial industry has earned from a negative
perspective. And I would say the more knowledgeable
and the more licensed the person is, the less
specific information they will provide online
as a general rule of thumb. Because for someone
like myself, if I told you all to go buy some
sort of stock tomorrow and you did that and you
lost money, you could actually sue me. So I'm
not going to do that. And so when you're seeing
things online where someone's giving tips or
unless you're very sure about their credentials.
Just be careful and apply some healthy skepticism
to that kind of situation. There's always a,
there's a line that I've always used. I trust
the person I trust, but verify. I'll never take
this type of conversation online because I don't
know who I'm talking to. Yeah. And with networking,
there's a mantra. Know you like you trust you.
They'll do business with you. And without that
last little bit. piece of trust, they'll never
do business with you. So how am I going to trust
you if I've only met you online? Yeah, it goes
a long way. So you really have to always trust,
but I verify. That's my whole thing. Okay. How
can someone be genuine in networking while still
being clear about the business value they bring?
So that's a wonderful question. And for anyone
that's been to a Chamber of Commerce meeting,
you'll see both sides of that equation quickly,
probably within the first 10 minutes. My favorite
approach for when people approach me, start a
conversation just with, hi, my name is, what
brings you here? And from there, there's... A
lot of schools of thought out there between how
to build like what I guess we'll generally call
a 30 second commercial. I love trying to get
that, whatever that is in your head. And I definitely
practice that for a second, trying to get that
to 18 words or less. If you can communicate what
you do, who you do it for and how you do it.
in 18 words or less, that is going to have a
better chance of sticking than a two -minute
monologue because I'm sure you're listening,
you do all sorts of things and you can help people
in all myriad different kinds of ways. Try to
make it succinct so that you're memorable, that
they can come back to you and you can develop
that relationship over time. Don't try to get
it all out at once. I coach many professionals.
And the first thing I do is I say, okay, give
me a 30 -second speech. Okay. And we hone it
down to 30 seconds. That's really what they want
to say. All right, I've got it. Then I say, you
know what? Break that down to 10 seconds. Yeah.
They said, you can't do that. I just spent 30
seconds. 10 seconds. So I bring it down to 10
seconds. They said, how's that? I said, good.
Now throw it out. Because now you focused in
on exactly what you want to say. Right. And it
falls right in line with what you just said,
the 18 words and be memorable and all these different
things. But when you're standing in front of
a Chamber of Commerce group, I go to a Chamber
of Commerce meeting every week and you have 30
seconds to say something. If I have five things
I want to sell, do I say about... All five? No,
I pick one. And the next week, I'll pick something
else. The next week, I'll pick something else.
So I'm not trying to overload. I'm trying to
make myself memorable. So you hit it right on
the nail. You describe money as a tool. What
does it actually help people to do inside relationships
that they often overlook? So the way I look at
it is when I sit down with families or individuals
and we talk about this, I want to create options
and flexibility. And I want to say that again.
So these options and the flexibility to do what
you want on your time frame, not your environments.
That to me is. one of the best pieces of freedom
that we can provide. You can argue that freedom
is the freedom to say yes or the freedom to say
no, however you want to look at that. I want
to be able to work with you to put you in a position
to say, I can say yes or I can say no. It's my
call. So when we do that, we're allowing you
in your relationships to be more present. I work
with all kinds of different people and from clients
at the beginning of the stages of investing all
the way to the most sophisticated. No one ever
says, wow, I was really thrilled. I got to swipe
my credit card three times yesterday. That's
not usually the story. The story was I was in
Italy with my family and we were watching the
Olympics and we had a lot of fun and we did this
and that. And the other thing that we got to
see all this and I got to be there and I watched.
my son or my daughter experience another culture
for the first time and it was a lot of fun and
I hone in on that because if you can get yourself
to a point where we are allowing you to be more
present to show up in the relationships that
you do have in your life personal professional
whatever People, I don't think, realize how much
they think about money. They see price tags.
They see gas, you know, the signs for gas, how
much a gallon of gas is on the side of the road
all the time. But we're constantly bombarded
by cost. We can set that aside. And you hit the
pillow every night knowing that you got to enjoy
the day. You got to experience the fullest of
those moments that day. That's the win. That's
what the options, that's what the flexibility
creates. And using money as a tool, And again,
not having any shame. And yes, I've set some
stuff aside, but now I'm able to do all this.
Absolutely. I couldn't agree more than 100%.
I can agree more than 100%. It wouldn't be worth
anything. But you're absolutely right, because
I look at money as being comfortable, but it
doesn't control my life. I look at everything
else. I look at my wife, my kids, my everything.
And I say, look, that's my wealth. The money
is just a tool to get some things. I use the
tool as a quiver. And that's really it. And you
do not have to be a multimillionaire for that
to happen. Absolutely. I agree. It does not take.
I'm willing to guess for most of you listening,
for what you make now, for what you've earned,
you're able to do more than you think you can
with just some realignment and some focus. I
think that's one of the fallacies of talking
about finance too, is like everyone thinks that
they need some amount of X dollars. Okay, but
where does that come from? And then why is that
the number? And let's break it down. Let's put
some math behind it. You might be right, but
you might be wrong. And that's where that conversation
comes back in, where have that, put some math
to it. and figured out, are we living in the
land of possibility or are you putting yourself
under constant stress that was unnecessary this
whole time? Absolutely. Couldn't agree with you
more. Some people avoid discussing opportunities
because they don't want to appear self -interested.
How do you balance service and business honestly?
I think that comes back to what's your why? What
are your intentions? To start with, like, don't
tell anyone, but I would do my job for free if
I could. I think it's that important. And if
I approach my job from an aspect of self -interest,
it would come across like you would know. And
I would end up having very transactional relationships
with the people that I work with. And I think
when you're looking at that. When if you're looking
to hire a financial planner or you're looking
to hire a plumber or you're looking at working
for X company or you're maybe going to go in
and deal with someone to start a business. I
think one of the most powerful questions that
you can ask someone when you're trying to establish
this level of trust and camaraderie is asking
them, what are they most proud of? And if it's
in the realm of contractor or financial advisor,
what are you most proud of? What's the thing
that you help the family out the most with? Or
if it's a job, why do you guys all show up every
day? What are you proud of that you've accomplished
as a group, as a company, as an individual? I
think that's just a very hard question to fake.
There's a lot of different ways to answer it.
There's not a wrong answer necessarily, but you'll
get a great picture into. what that person thinks
is important and how they think they show up
to other people and you can bounce that off your
internal bullshit meter as it were and figure
out like hey is this person for me are we vibing
or that's a great answer but this isn't me absolutely
and it changes by the person right because there
are a thousand financial advisors but there is
one type that is perfect for you and the rest
of them don't but if you find that one person
such as yourself and if you find somebody likely
to give you the right answers they may not always
be the answers you want to hear but they're the
right answers and you can work with that then
you want it's a whole right when someone thinks
about their world as a whole career family finances
community How does that change who they choose
to connect with? I think that's a great question
that builds on what we were just talking about.
I think if you are able to look at your picture
as a whole, I guess maybe it's like the question
sometimes we get to when I'm talking with families
is like, what's really going to matter when you're
old and gray? body doesn't quite work so well
as it used to and you take a look back on your
life and i guess something easy we can all relate
to not everyone has been mad at someone else
driving on the road some take more than others
but everyone that's ever driven i'm sure you
listen you've had at least one moment where like
something happened on the road that was upsetting
how upset you get or how long you hang on to
that I like to try to put that in context against
what is that going to matter when you're saying
your last goodbyes? Because if it doesn't, if
that's not what's going to come up, if you're
going to say thank you to everyone else, I love
you. It was wonderful to spend a vacation with
you in this whatever place. That's the holistic
part of life that I encourage you to take a look
at because It's easy to get lost in the moment.
It's a lot harder to think about the big picture.
But I think through looking at the big picture,
looking at your life holistically, there's a
certain freedom to that. Because through that
lens, now that driving incident doesn't matter.
That other person may have been wrong, but...
Absolutely. The older I get, the more I look
at life that way. Yeah, because I can tell you
how I would react in my 20s and my 30s and my
40s in my 50s. I'm now in my 60s. And it's very
different than the way it would act when I was
in my 30s. OK, I understand that completely.
And unfortunately, people have to wait until
their 60s or 50s to look at life that way. Yeah,
the world would be a better place. I try to encourage
people to do that earlier. This isn't my quote,
so I can't take credit for this personally, but
I use this in conversations with early stage
clients when we're first getting to know each
other. I say, people only think other people
die. And I let that sink in for a second. And
I invite you to say that again. You had people
only think other people die. And you could extrapolate
that to a whole number of different issues, but...
Statistics, they're averages. That means there's
someone on the front of it and someone on the
back of it. And there's only one person on the
middle of it. That's why I encourage people to
try to use that lens and cycle through some of
this because it actually is quite a liberating
concept. Yeah, you can also take that same thing.
And whether it's about illness or something else
that always happens to somebody else. But when
it finally happens to you or someone you love,
that all of a sudden your world comes crashing
down and say, what do I do? I need help or something
else like that. And you never realize that it
can happen to you. Yeah. So you can take that
in a number of ways. Yeah. There's a right now
recently here, a famous actor. He just passed.
Right. He left behind his wife and four kids.
And his wife, a Hollywood actor, you'd think,
oh, he's rich. He's got everything all figured
out. And he had to start a GoFundMe page, or
the family did. They raised a million dollars,
probably a little bit on the back of him being
famous. But that's, I'm looking at that and I'm
like, from my perspective as a financial professional,
that GoFundMe page, I would love to put GoFundMe
out of business if I could. Not because they're
doing a bad thing. I think they're doing a wonderful
mission. I fully support what they're doing because
it's a great community tool. I would love to
save people the heartache of having to go through
that process on top of having just lost a loved
one where they're already heartbroken to begin
with. Absolutely. Absolutely. How do strong relationships
improve financial decision -making, not just
income? That's a great one for those of you out
there that are coupled up husband wife. It's
okay. I think this is where open communication
goes. And obviously I don't know your relationship,
but it is okay to have a different answer. And
I think allowing that the person to have a different
answer for you from you, a different priority,
they're probably pretty close, but I'll just
say from like my perspective, I do what I do
for a living. my wife is still a huge part of
the major financial decisions that we make. Not
because I'm right and she's wrong, but because
we have sometimes different viewpoints on something.
Oftentimes we find we actually are pretty aligned,
but I think just allowing that space for her
to have her answer and me to have my answer,
it's not a fight if we both give each other the
space to have a respective opinion. It's not
like a good, healthy relationship. It does. But
most, but a lot of relationships aren't cut the
same way. I too have that same relationship.
And because there are times in my life where
I made more money than she did. She made more
money than I did. And it never really mattered.
Yeah. We both had that type of relationship where
we bounced it off each other's back or off each
other and said, what do you think? And we came
up with the right solution and we went for it.
Usually I was right, but that's beside the point.
Okay. What signs a show, what signs show a relationship
is mutually beneficial versus quietly one -sided?
What we just talked about. Yeah. I would say
if you can leave the conversation with a smile
and the other person's also leaving with a smile.
Yeah. You're in a good start. Obviously there
are good actors out there and there are bad actors.
I've been fooled before, right? I thought I was
going to go to this networking thing in Scotland
once. I was like 23 and I was really excited
and I was like looking for all kinds of ways
to get better. And this is one of those situations
where it was like, go to Scotland, spend a week
or two weeks or whatever it was. And then you'll
come back and your business is going to explode
and your professional life is going to go crazy.
whatever, wired them $10 ,000. And cause I did
that in my excitement and I was like, okay, yeah,
this will be worth, I'll make this back in no
time. And then I happened to listen to the person's
podcast after that. And I could not believe the
amount of unprofessionalism and the, it was a
completely opposite image from the image that
I was marketed. And I got all kinds of warning
signs because I was still supposed to pay them
more money to still yet go. That was just a down
payment. Long story short, pulled out, hit the
ripcord. I never got the money back. It was a
very expensive lesson for a young 20s, whatever
year old I was. It happens. That was definitely
a one -sided relationship. They were quite dishonest
about the whole thing. I had no real recourse
for any of you that have lost that kind of money.
Yes, it's a lot, but to go for a lawyer, by the
time you get through it all, you're worse off
anyways. So it wasn't fun. And so a little trial
and error. Yep, it sounded like you learned a
hard lesson. Yeah, that wasn't fun. I wasn't
proud of that one. But look, it made you a better
person. It made you scrutinize anything like
that even more. You'll look into something. I
always give myself 24 hours. If something is
too great or too good to believe, it usually
is. But if I get a hold of a deal or something
else like that, I'll say, look, I'll give you
an answer. but it'll be tomorrow. And they usually
say it's only good for the next hour. Obviously,
it's not good for me then. But they hate when
I say that. But I do and I check them out within
the 24 hours and either they're full of crap
or they're all right. And usually they're full
of crap. So it works that way. Yeah, I would
say that rush tactics definitely should be an
alarm bell generally. Yeah, absolutely. You have
to do this now or... whatever, just again, put
your warning signs up, try to do a little bit
more homework if you can. But if someone's really
pushing you and you're not comfortable in anything,
any kind of monetary transaction, job transaction,
someone says, oh, you have to take this now or
we're going to go to the next candidate. You're
not, again, I go back to you're a 10, right?
You have value. You have a tremendous amount
that you can offer to the world. If someone wants
you that bad, they shouldn't be willing to dump
you in an hour and go to the next person. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Okay, let's bring this podcast full
circle. If a listener wants both stronger relationships
and healthier financial outcomes in the next
90 days, what's one networking behavior should
they start immediately? I think, you know, the
easiest thing to probably do is, It costs no
money. And that's have an honest conversation
with yourself, pull up your finances and go through
an inflow and outflow for your budget. That can
be a very eye -opening experience. If you do
that with your spouse, be prepared for wherever
that's going to go. You're probably going to
surprise yourself. But I'd say that's an easy
one. If you want more information, no shame in
a dollar .com. I invite anyone that I can continue
this conversation in more detail and get more
specific on stuff. But aside from going to no
shame in a dollar .com, I would just say, yeah,
do the budget, have the conversation with yourself,
with your spouse. And at the end of it, again,
give yourself some grace. There's no right or
wrong answer, but. If at the end of it, you're
not comfortable with what that picture looks
like, then something's got to change. And that
should be something that you start to take some
action on. Absolutely. Andrew, this was great.
Andrew, if somebody wanted to get hold of you,
just either to pick your brain, to hire you,
or just ask you some questions, what's the best
way they can get hold of you? The best way is
to go to no shame in a dollar .com. I set that
up. It's just the name and email address is all
that would take. And we can start a conversation.
Of course, LinkedIn, I'm on there as well. And
my last name is, and that's the beauty of having
it start with a Q. That's quite unique. I'm easy
enough to find there, but yeah, like I said,
I'm here to help. I'm here to be a member of
the community and to help everyone's network.
And if that's all you want to, and you just want
to network a little bit, I'm happy to do that.
Fantastic. This conversation reminds us that
networking isn't only about who you meet. It's
about how openly and honestly you communicate
value. When people are comfortable discussing
goals, expectations, and opportunity, relationships
become clearer and decisions become easier. If
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