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Welcome to Networking Unleashed, Building Profitable

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Connections, the show where conversations stop

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being small and start opening doors. I'm your

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host, Michael Foreman, and today we're cutting

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through one of the biggest sources of confusion

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in business, the difference between PR, marketing,

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and sales, what networking actually has to do

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with all of it. My guest... brings clarity, where

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most people bring noise. We're talking about

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what a salesperson truly is, how relationships

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really drive results, and the way you show up

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in conversations impacts your business, your

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reputation, and your life. This is not theory.

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This is how connections turn into trust and turn.

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and trust turns into opportunity. So buckle up,

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buttercup. We're going to have a great show.

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And I would love to welcome to the podcast today,

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Gal Ezra. I'm not going to even attempt to go

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into your background. Just please introduce yourself

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and tell me how you got here today. Sorry, I

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missed just the last sentence. What was your

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last sentence? You can introduce yourself and

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just tell me how you got here today. Give me

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the cliff notes. Absolutely. First of all, thank

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you for having me here. And I'll tell you that

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actually how I got here today is partially, but

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in a large way, through networking, which it

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is relevant. But my view on networking is that,

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yes, it's key. It's key. But there's a lot to

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learn to make that networking work. How do I

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know? Because if I can take a homeless person

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and I can get him to network with the president

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of the United States or the president of any

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country, will he become a millionaire? No, because

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he doesn't know everything around what to even

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do with the network. I can take a failing businessman

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and get him to network with other entrepreneurs.

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And the fact that he had some dinners with them

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and sat around the table with them is not going

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to immediately make him a success. But if he

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has many tools or you take a person that's learned

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a lot, probably what you teach, and they've learned

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everything around networking and how to build

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a business around them and how to sell and how

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to market and how to have PR and all those things.

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Then, of course, when they go and network, they'll

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know what to do with the business card. They'll

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know what to do with the dinner. They'll know

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how to build relationships. So for me, just to

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get to how I got here today, I've explained it

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before on different platforms. And so maybe for

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this one, I won't get into the full story. But

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I'll tell you that at 19 years old, I started

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from zero in a country that I knew practically

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no one. And I ended up basically in, by the time

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I was 23, starting a business that would become

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a million dollar business. I ended up selling

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four companies by the time I was 32. I'm a CEO

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today of a company that I co -founded, which

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is a finance business that manages multi, multi

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-million dollars. I own hotels. I help other

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people make lots of money. My mission is to create

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10 ,000 ethical millionaires. That's my mission,

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to create 10 ,000 ethical millionaires. But how

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did I start from 19 to having a massive business?

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I had one law, which is very relevant to your

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podcast. And that law that I knew is communication

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out equals... Communication in. Communication

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out equals income. If I wanted to make more friends,

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which is an income, it doesn't have to be just

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money. Income can be more friends. Income can

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be love from your wife. Income can be appreciation

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from your staff. It can be good reviews. All

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those are income. So I knew that if I want income,

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a friendship, people inviting me to things, etc.,

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It's not going to come from me waiting. It's

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going to come from me communicating out. Even

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today in my businesses, if we don't have enough

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leads, I know we just haven't communicated out

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enough. So communication out brings communication

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in. And I ended up building a business that ran,

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I built a business that was music festivals,

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massive music festivals. And they started from

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getting... 10 people together, 15 people together,

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20 people together around my grandma's pool for

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a barbecue on the weekend, not for a ticket,

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not as a formal thing, just bringing people together

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because I knew that I need to communicate out

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and the income will come. And it did. Very good.

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I was sitting, I was so intently listening to

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your story that I forgot completely we're on

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a podcast. I was so interested in your story.

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Thank you. Okay. So here, let's start with a

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few questions. Most people mix up PR, marketing,

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and sales. When it comes to networking, where

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do you see the biggest misunderstanding and what

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does the misunderstanding cost people? Yeah.

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First of all, let's understand PR, marketing,

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and sales. Okay. So what is a salesperson? Let

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me ask you first. What is sales? And you can

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answer on behalf of what you think your listeners

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would say. Selling what my wares. I sell widgets.

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But what does it mean, sell, to sell? Meaning

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what? I'm going to trade what I have for what

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you have, money or other compensation. Okay,

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good. Excellent. That's fine, yes. I go a little

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deeper, okay? And I say this. I say, look, selling

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is very different. to just convincing someone

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to buy, which many people say, or getting paid

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for something or whatever. It goes deeper. For

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example, if you can sell ice to the Eskimo, you

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are not a salesperson in my view. You're a cheater

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because the Eskimo doesn't need ice. So what

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is sales? Sales is defined as helping the prospect

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to help themselves with your product or service.

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Sales is helping the prospect. I'm helping you

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to help yourself with what I'm offering. If it

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doesn't help you, I don't sell it to you. I don't

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call my salespeople salespeople. I call them

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help people. And if we don't have enough income,

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I say, we don't go sell more, go help more. Help

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and the money will come. So if I'm a real estate

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agent and I'm showing you a property and I realize,

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that you told me you're in the market for a three

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bedroom, but I realize you need a four bedroom.

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It's my duty to help you, to help yourself by

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getting a four bedroom, because that's really

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what you need. And if you ask for a three bedroom,

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and I realize that actually you only need a two

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bedroom, three bedroom will be too much house.

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It's my duty as a salesperson to help you to

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realize that you should only get a two bedroom.

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That's what... being a salesperson is it's helping

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now what does a salesperson actually need to

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do he needs to let the prospect talk you need

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to see how can you help the person so the prospect

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needs to be the one doing most of the talking

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many people many salespeople do it wrong and

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they do a lot of the talking no the prospect

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needs to tell you what's going on so you can

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discover how to help them So that's sales, first

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of all. And again, this is, I could do, I don't,

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not that I can do, we do five day seminars just

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on sales. Okay. And so I'm giving you the beginning.

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There's a lot more. Yeah. So that's sales. Now,

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what is marketing? What would your listeners

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say is marketing? You have to, you market your,

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you're telling everybody or showing everybody

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what you have. And the price point. Okay, excellent.

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So there's many businesses that say, look, marketing

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is exposure. Marketing is brand awareness. Marketing

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is people knowing about me. It's not because

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I know many businesses that had a lot of exposure

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and went bankrupt. And what I know is that. The

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problem was marketing. Why? Because marketing

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brings money. Marketing is what brings money.

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And if your marketing is good enough, what you'll

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find is that you don't even need salespeople.

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If your marketing is good enough, you don't need

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salespeople. You just need people will come in

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ready to buy. So what you need the salespeople

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there for is to upsell you, to help you more.

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So for example, Apple. Doesn't need a salespeople.

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You walk into the Apple store ready to buy and

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they are there to say, and would you like Apple

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care? And would you like AirPods? And they upsell

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you. But Apple's marketing is so good that you

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go on the site or into the store ready to buy.

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So what's marketing? Marketing is defined as

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making yourself known, wanted, and ultimately

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selling something. If your marketing doesn't

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make you known, then it's bad marketing. If your

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marketing doesn't make you wanted, wow, I want

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that, then it's not marketing. But if your marketing

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makes you known, makes you wanted, but it doesn't

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sell something, it doesn't end up in a sale,

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it's also bad marketing. So just being known

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and wanted is not enough for marketing. It has

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to sell. Imagine everybody knew and wanted an

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iPhone, but nobody bought it. then apple would

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go bankrupt people have to buy it so marketing

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if it doesn't sell is not marketing so with marketing

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what we do is we tell people about ourselves

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okay that's what we do okay now what's pr pr

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is public relations okay now public relations

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is actually a technology a whole system of controlling

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people's emotions and reactions about what we

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offer or about who we are or about a purpose.

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So for example, through, and by the way, PR is

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extremely powerful. If PR, you can do amazing

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things or terrible things. For example, I'm Jewish,

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so I can give you a great example, is the Holocaust.

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Hitler, through PR, convinced an entire sane

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nation, the Germans are incredibly sane, incredibly

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smart, incredibly detailed, engineers, and the

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best minds in the world, he managed to convince

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them through PR to manipulate their emotions

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and reactions in a bad way, that it's a good

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idea to do what they did. Okay? That was through

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PR. That's PR. He controlled emotions and reactions.

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Or through PR, you can convince a group of people

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to go do amazing things. For example, through

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PR, you can convince people to go and rally against

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gender -based violence or against the fact that

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the community should be, the environment should

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be cleaner. Go do community service. You can

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convince a whole group of people to go and vote

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through PR. So PR is the technology of managing

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human emotions and reactions. And every business

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has emotion or a reaction that it creates. For

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example, every listener can think right now of

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a business or not a business, a restaurant. Think

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of a restaurant that you hated. You just, it

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was, no. Okay, so you can give me an example

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of a restaurant that you hated. Just give me

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the first letter of it so we don't put them.

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P. P? B. B. So restaurant B. If I say to you,

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let's go eat at restaurant B tonight, your emotion

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and reaction is no, no, no, no, no. Because that's

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their PR for you. Or if you think of a restaurant

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that you love. Loved, like, wow. And let's call

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it restaurant X. And I say, should we go eat

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at restaurant X? And you say, wow, of course,

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anytime. The PR there is good. Your emotion and

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reaction is good. And you can change the view

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on someone's PR, on your emotion and reaction

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through the technology of PR. For example, you

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can take a celebrity that at one point was hated

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and all of a sudden they become very loved. Okay,

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or maybe just you didn't like them. Let's say

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at the beginning, Justin Bieber only appealed

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to 14 -year -old girls. And through PR, they

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changed it that even adults love Justin Bieber.

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He became much wider. That change in their emotion

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was done through PR. So in summary, the difference

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between sales, marketing, and PR is this. With

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marketing, Marketing is what we say about ourselves.

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Okay, what I say about myself. That's marketing,

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what I say about myself. PR is what others say

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about me. Sales is what the prospect says about

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himself. Okay. And that's the simplicity of it.

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Now, every one of those has... Data and knowledge

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and technology, and you need to learn it. But

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once you know it, you become a magician, an income

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generating machine. Yeah, and people spend their

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whole life in trying to learn it. Yeah, I've

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employed marketing graduates that couldn't define

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the word marketing for me. You're right. They

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don't know it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. If networking

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were treated less like promotion and more like

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reputation, what would people need to stop doing

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immediately? Stop being interesting and become

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interested. Okay. Okay. So what most people do

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is they go around being interesting. Look how

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interesting I am. They make a big thing out of

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themselves. They're interesting. Now, you know

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what is very interesting? The only interesting

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thing in the world is the physical world around

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you, objects. This phone is interesting. You

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can look at it. This phone was never interested

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in anyone. The phone never asked me, how is my

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day? So objects are interesting. Human beings

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can be interested. But if you become interesting,

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and you are important, and you need everybody

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to look at you, and you are interesting, but

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the minute that you become interested in others,

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where I actually care, genuinely, I care to help

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you, I care to learn about you, I actually want

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to find out what's going on and where I can add

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value. The minute I can do that, now it's real.

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Is that your wife and daughter? Yeah, I was just

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saying hi. Yeah. With networking, if you go in

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with what's called a servant's heart, if you

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go in looking to give rather than receive, it

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takes all the pressure off your shoulders. And

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you're seeing how my biggest line when I sit

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down, I'm speaking with somebody. It's like,

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God, I like you. I like the way you do business.

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How can I make you more successful? Can I be

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a good referral source for you? Exactly. And

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they say, Mike, I don't know what the hell you

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do yet. And you're already trying to make me

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more successful? Yes. And so one side to that

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really opens up a whole new world. That's exactly

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right. You're interested. You actually want to

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add value. It's amazing. I like that. In your

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experience. What separates someone who meets

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people from someone who consistently gets calls,

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referrals, and introductions without asking?

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The magic is that person that gets all the amazing

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income has learned how to control. Okay. So if

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you want income, calls, referrals, et cetera,

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without asking, that's income. The only thing

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that brings income is control. Now, what's control?

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People think control is a bad thing. Oh, I'm

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going to control you. There's a bad connotation

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to control. But control is actually important

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because when you drive, if you don't control,

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you have an accident. In my business, if I don't

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control my expenses, I'll go bankrupt. If I don't

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control my health, I'll become obese. So control

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is important. You need to control. But what does

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control mean? Control is defined as the ability

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to start, change, and stop. If I can start the

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car, change the car, stop the car, I control

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the car. But if I can only start the car and

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run into a wall, I didn't control it. If I can

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start a thought, change a thought, stop a thought,

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I control my mind. But many people have thoughts

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that they cannot stop. They can't control that

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area. If I can start a sales cycle, change the

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sales cycle, close the client, I've controlled

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the sale. I get income. Anything that you want.

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positive to come in as income you must have control

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there you must be able to start change stop and

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in business if you want the income of referrals

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and calls and being that type of networker you

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must control control what the business around

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you and you think okay what's the relevance to

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controlling the business around me to my networking

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abilities It's all the difference. If you don't

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know how to sell, which is part of controlling

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the business around you, you won't have results

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with networking. If you don't have a good follow

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-up system and you don't control the business

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around you, you won't have good networking. If

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you are terrible with managing your finances,

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you won't have good networking. If you're unorganized

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in life in general, you won't have good networking.

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You'll lose your business cards in the back of

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your trunk and then you'll take out your groceries

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and it'll fall out and good luck with getting

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calls. You must become organized. The organization

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is actually being in control of what's going

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on around you. Networking is vital, but it's

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one part. Just like I could be a great salesman,

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but it's one part. Imagine I'm a good salesman,

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but my admin is a mess. And I forget to follow

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up for payment. I don't follow up people for

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payment. Good luck to all my sales skill. I'll

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go bankrupt still. So you need to learn that

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there's many parts to the business. That's what

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I do. I have a program called Success Engineering

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where we find what areas are missing and I engineer

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the results. I engineer a plan for you so you

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will bring about success in any area you want.

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You need that holistic thing and there's areas

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that are missing for people and that's what needs

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to be filled in. That was great. That was a great

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explanation. Thank you. Kudos to you. Thank you.

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What is a salesperson really being hired to do?

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And how does that truth change the way professionals

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should approach networking conversations? Okay,

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so a salesperson is being hired to create income

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greater than outgo. Okay. That's what you hire

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a salesperson for. If you're a salesperson that

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you don't realize that your result is income

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greater than outgo, you don't know that, then

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I will sell at a discount, too much of a discount,

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or I will sell things that the company can't

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really deliver, or I'll do all kinds of things

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that are not right. What you're hiring me for

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is to bring lots of income, more than we spend.

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That's what a salesperson does. And if you hire

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the salesperson and it ends up costing you money,

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then why did I bring a salesperson on? So that's

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the first part. How does it affect networking?

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Because if you care about helping, you genuinely

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care, your networking will improve dramatically

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because you'll always be looking at helping.

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And helping is what sales really comes down to.

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Many people say A, B, C. Always be closing. I

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don't know if you've heard that. Of course, what

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I say is no. ABC, always be caring. When you

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care, you'll have the close. When you care, you'll

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find out how you can help. When you care, by

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the way, you'll usually sell even more because

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you'll see really what does that person need.

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And it might be beyond the scope of what you

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even do. And then you'll find other ways to help

00:23:02.049 --> 00:23:04.839
them. And you'll go above and beyond for them.

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And maybe that will generate new income because

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you'll realize I can refer this person because

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they really need this because I cared so much.

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He told me I bring that. And then I make money

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from and you expand that way. So that's the connection.

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Do you find I drew a line in the sand? I said

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the year of the pandemic right before the pandemic,

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people were more transactional. When they were

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networking, they were just like mind -numbing,

00:23:35.710 --> 00:23:38.609
just, okay, I have $3, you have a widget, I'll

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trade you. And after the pandemic, when people

00:23:41.450 --> 00:23:45.650
were shut in, networking became more relationship

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-oriented. And then they started to come out

00:23:49.910 --> 00:23:53.269
of it. But what happened was that people forgot.

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They forgot about caring. They forgot about the

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other person. We're so many miles, not really

00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.799
that many miles apart right now. I'm in Georgia.

00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:06.259
You're in Florida. Okay. But we are two people.

00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:10.579
On the other side of my camera is you. And you

00:24:10.579 --> 00:24:14.059
are a person. So I still have to give you the

00:24:14.059 --> 00:24:17.619
same caring, the same feeling that I would have

00:24:17.619 --> 00:24:20.880
if I had you here in person. And I feel that

00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.099
if... I don't have that type of connection, I

00:24:24.099 --> 00:24:27.359
won't have the sale. So networking is know you,

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like you, trust you, they'll do business with

00:24:29.980 --> 00:24:34.099
you. Know you, everybody knows you, likes you,

00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.259
all that narrows the scope down a little bit.

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But trust, that's a huge factor. And that relationship,

00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.119
the way that you come together changes everything.

00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:49.259
It really does. Yeah, it really does. Relationships

00:24:49.259 --> 00:24:52.099
are the key. They're the key for everything,

00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:55.339
actually. There was a major study done. It was

00:24:55.339 --> 00:24:58.000
a big TED talk about the largest study ever done

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in the history of the world, basically, this

00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:02.839
giant study that spanned like over 100 years.

00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.660
And basically, they found that the common denominator

00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:10.059
to happiness, health, actually living longer,

00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:15.299
and wealth is the quality. of your relationships,

00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:18.359
quality and quantity of relationships is the

00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.019
direct connection. And it's key. It's really

00:25:22.019 --> 00:25:27.880
key. Okay. Okay. What role does trust play across

00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:32.380
PR, marketing, sales, and networking? And how

00:25:32.380 --> 00:25:35.599
do people unknowingly destroy it in the first

00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:39.460
five minutes? Okay. So the first way it gets

00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:44.039
destroyed is by being interesting. And by being

00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.220
dishonest. Absolutely. Okay. Now, how does it

00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:52.420
play across? Because what happens is trust is

00:25:52.420 --> 00:25:56.220
just actually, it's usually a PR connected thing

00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:59.240
when there's a distance. Okay. If I don't personally

00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:02.119
know you, but I heard of you, it's a PR thing.

00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:05.960
I didn't meet the executives of American Express,

00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.019
but I trust the company. Okay. Because their

00:26:10.019 --> 00:26:14.410
PR is. Good. My emotion and reaction is they're

00:26:14.410 --> 00:26:18.529
powerful, trustworthy, longstanding, reliable.

00:26:19.029 --> 00:26:22.069
So I trust them. But if there was a big scandal

00:26:22.069 --> 00:26:24.769
that the American Express company was losing

00:26:24.769 --> 00:26:26.869
people's money and the PR would be destroyed

00:26:26.869 --> 00:26:31.329
and the trust would go down with it. That's something

00:26:31.329 --> 00:26:33.529
that needs to be there, right? That trust has

00:26:33.529 --> 00:26:37.130
to be there. And when the trust is there or when

00:26:37.130 --> 00:26:40.880
any good PR is there. When you have good PR,

00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:46.200
it opens the door for marketing to go through,

00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:51.180
okay? Or for sales to go through. But imagine

00:26:51.180 --> 00:26:55.680
that I was marketing to you restaurant B's, which

00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.680
we talked about earlier, restaurant B's new special,

00:26:58.900 --> 00:27:01.160
and I was marketing it to you. And it's amazing,

00:27:01.259 --> 00:27:03.079
and it's so good, and it's the best price, and

00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.089
it's the most delicious. It would be very hard

00:27:06.089 --> 00:27:08.410
for that marketing to actually penetrate and

00:27:08.410 --> 00:27:13.049
arrive to you because the PR blocked it. They

00:27:13.049 --> 00:27:16.289
don't like that place. But if I could change

00:27:16.289 --> 00:27:18.869
the PR or enough marketing or enough sales happen,

00:27:18.950 --> 00:27:21.950
I could get you maybe to look at it. But it's

00:27:21.950 --> 00:27:25.450
much harder. Good PR, if you love restaurant

00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:30.690
X, good PR. somebody says to you, should we go

00:27:30.690 --> 00:27:33.029
eat there? They're the salesperson. It's your

00:27:33.029 --> 00:27:34.789
husband or your wife. And they come to you and

00:27:34.789 --> 00:27:37.190
they say, hey, at that exact moment, you're like,

00:27:37.250 --> 00:27:39.509
I'm sold. Let's go because you love it. Or you

00:27:39.509 --> 00:27:41.769
see their new marketing and you say, yes, I want.

00:27:43.930 --> 00:27:47.569
Being a former restaurant owner, I know exactly

00:27:47.569 --> 00:27:50.289
what you're talking about. Because we had an

00:27:50.289 --> 00:27:54.230
old saying that serve one bad meal, they're going

00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:57.099
to tell 10 people. But if you serve one good

00:27:57.099 --> 00:28:01.500
meal, they won't tell anybody. So you have to,

00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:05.200
once you get that bad review or bad meal by a

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.759
person, you have to really go above and beyond,

00:28:07.980 --> 00:28:12.160
take care of it, pay attention to it, and just

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:16.059
explain to them what happened, whatever it was,

00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:20.000
or it was just bad food. But you just have to

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:25.059
counter it 10 times to one. Yeah, 100%. It's

00:28:25.059 --> 00:28:27.960
unfortunate, but that's the way that restaurants

00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.960
itself works. Yeah, and side note to that, by

00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.700
the way, I've worked with a couple of restaurants

00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:36.500
and there is a common thing that people that

00:28:36.500 --> 00:28:40.400
are satisfied don't go and refer or you don't

00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:43.099
have any real connection to who sits at your

00:28:43.099 --> 00:28:46.180
table. They come, they go. I work with restaurants

00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:49.559
and I handle that. There is a way to get them

00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:53.769
to refer. There is a way to get them. to remain

00:28:53.769 --> 00:28:57.150
connected to you. And that's a side note, but

00:28:57.150 --> 00:29:00.069
any business can get happy customers to refer

00:29:00.069 --> 00:29:03.349
that actually should be the purpose. Just some

00:29:03.349 --> 00:29:04.710
people don't know how to do it. That's just a

00:29:04.710 --> 00:29:08.369
side note. Yeah, no, I've taken. You've seen

00:29:08.369 --> 00:29:12.069
relationships drive outcomes in business and

00:29:12.069 --> 00:29:16.769
life. What behaviors quietly build long -term

00:29:16.769 --> 00:29:22.289
goodwill even when no deal is on the table? What

00:29:22.289 --> 00:29:25.190
behaviors quietly build – can you say that again?

00:29:25.250 --> 00:29:28.970
Sorry. What behaviors quietly build long -term

00:29:28.970 --> 00:29:34.970
goodwill even when no deal is on the table? What

00:29:34.970 --> 00:29:41.569
happens is this. Your next deal, the goodwill

00:29:41.569 --> 00:29:47.369
that you establish, is actually defined by the

00:29:47.369 --> 00:29:52.410
previous deals you've done. Okay. Imagine that

00:29:52.410 --> 00:29:58.990
we go, there are four levels of exchange. Okay.

00:29:59.589 --> 00:30:02.250
Exchange is I give you something, you give me

00:30:02.250 --> 00:30:05.789
something. Okay. That's exchange. I pay you for

00:30:05.789 --> 00:30:08.450
something, you pay me back. Okay. Now there's

00:30:08.450 --> 00:30:13.509
four levels of that. The lowest level is this.

00:30:13.589 --> 00:30:17.910
I go to a store and I give them $1 for a chocolate.

00:30:18.579 --> 00:30:23.299
They take the $1 and run. I got nothing. It was

00:30:23.299 --> 00:30:27.099
criminal exchange. Rip -off exchange. They stole

00:30:27.099 --> 00:30:30.759
from me and I got nothing. The level above that

00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:32.880
is I go to the store, I give them $1 for the

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.500
chocolate. They give me the chocolate, but it's

00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:37.339
ripped open with a little bite taken out of it.

00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:43.539
I got something. It's not what I asked for. Partial.

00:30:44.009 --> 00:30:46.809
It's partial exchange. I go to a restaurant,

00:30:46.990 --> 00:30:50.210
I order a steak, medium rare. I expect it to

00:30:50.210 --> 00:30:53.630
be warm. It comes to the table, well done and

00:30:53.630 --> 00:30:57.670
cold. I still got a steak, but it wasn't what

00:30:57.670 --> 00:31:02.750
I ordered. It was partial. The level above that

00:31:02.750 --> 00:31:09.069
is fair exchange. Fair exchange is I go to the

00:31:09.069 --> 00:31:11.710
store, I give them $1 for the chocolate, and

00:31:11.710 --> 00:31:13.950
they give me a chocolate. That I want perfect.

00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:16.630
Or I go to the restaurant, I order a steak medium

00:31:16.630 --> 00:31:19.369
rare, I expect it warm, and I get a steak medium

00:31:19.369 --> 00:31:23.089
rare and warm. Beautiful. Okay. Everything up

00:31:23.089 --> 00:31:26.150
until this point, three, two, and one level,

00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:29.710
all those three, long term, I'll be destroyed.

00:31:31.349 --> 00:31:34.549
Including fair exchange. Including the fair exchange.

00:31:35.049 --> 00:31:38.329
Why? Because nothing stays the same. Things either

00:31:38.329 --> 00:31:42.660
go up or they go down. Nothing stays the same.

00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.180
If it's the same, it means down. The same means

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:49.720
down. So what do you do? You do the fourth level

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.200
of exchange. The fourth level of exchange is

00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.200
exchange in abundance. Abundance means more or

00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.660
generous exchange or what I like to think of

00:31:58.660 --> 00:32:02.440
it as exchange with a wow. So I go to the store.

00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.779
I give them $1 for the chocolate. They give me

00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:07.099
the chocolate, but they also see that I have

00:32:07.099 --> 00:32:09.240
my puppy with me and they give him a little treat.

00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.420
And I go, oh, that's nice. Wow. something more

00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:16.460
than I expected. It's not two for one. It's not

00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:19.200
something that I wanted. It's not something extravagant.

00:32:19.339 --> 00:32:21.519
It's something I didn't ask for, but that's wow.

00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.740
I go to the restaurant. I order the steak medium

00:32:23.740 --> 00:32:25.619
rare. I get the steak medium rare, hot, et cetera.

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.440
But the chef comes out and the chef says, hey,

00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.619
I've been making this little thing in the back.

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.900
Do you want a little taster on the house? And

00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:34.839
everybody at the table goes, wow, wow, yes, of

00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:36.839
course. Wow, amazing. And then what happens?

00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:40.470
If you're sane, if you're a logical person, You

00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:45.410
will leave and you will feel the obligation to

00:32:45.410 --> 00:32:48.769
give them more than they expected. So you will

00:32:48.769 --> 00:32:52.210
leave and you'll bring your friends again. And

00:32:52.210 --> 00:32:54.230
then you come back and the chef sees you again.

00:32:54.269 --> 00:32:56.529
Oh my God, you're back. Let me do it. And then

00:32:56.529 --> 00:32:58.309
they'll give you more than you expect. And now

00:32:58.309 --> 00:33:03.269
there's expansion. That's how you define your

00:33:03.269 --> 00:33:05.569
next deal. If your current deal that you just

00:33:05.569 --> 00:33:08.710
did was with, wow, more than expected, above

00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:12.089
and beyond, The goodwill that will be created

00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:15.710
is gigantic and it will define the next deal.

00:33:15.809 --> 00:33:18.990
It will spread. Now, if there's no deal on the

00:33:18.990 --> 00:33:22.309
table whatsoever and there's nothing and you're

00:33:22.309 --> 00:33:24.329
just building and you're just starting to network,

00:33:24.490 --> 00:33:29.130
how do you build goodwill? By putting valuable

00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:34.250
communication across to the other side, not pestering

00:33:34.250 --> 00:33:37.730
communication, not just checking in, not that

00:33:37.730 --> 00:33:40.579
type of follow -up. valuable communication, whether

00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:43.420
it's you have a podcast, for example. So you're

00:33:43.420 --> 00:33:45.579
constantly putting out valuable communication

00:33:45.579 --> 00:33:47.380
to people, even that don't have a deal with you,

00:33:47.420 --> 00:33:49.759
but they like to receive your updates. You're

00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.279
putting out value. Or if you do write to somebody

00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.180
as a follow -up, you say, hey, I just did this

00:33:55.180 --> 00:33:57.740
video with Gal and I thought you'd get a lot

00:33:57.740 --> 00:34:00.339
of value out of it because he talked about how

00:34:00.339 --> 00:34:02.539
to have generous exchange. I thought you'd like

00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:05.039
it. Just sending you something to listen to on

00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.759
your next car ride. You're putting communication

00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.539
there that adds value. That will generate goodwill.

00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:17.559
As a thank you, whenever I have a client, whenever

00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.440
I do work for a client or something, they always

00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:24.699
get a thank you note from me. A handwritten thank

00:34:24.699 --> 00:34:28.679
you note. And when I teach this, all the people

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.780
that I mentor or my clients, when I teach them,

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.119
listen, that's part of the follow -up. but write

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.440
them a handwritten thank you note because nobody

00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.639
does it. Nobody does it. Could you imagine being

00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.739
the person that receives it? Yeah, so nice. It's

00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:46.820
no bill. It's not an invoice. It's not anything.

00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:50.079
It's just a thank you. That's awesome. And it

00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.480
goes so far. It keeps you top of mind. And it

00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:56.460
just, it makes everybody feel so much better.

00:34:56.579 --> 00:35:00.309
I like that. Yeah, it gives me a good feeling

00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:03.869
because I have a stack of like about a foot high

00:35:03.869 --> 00:35:06.809
of all the thank you notes because I always have

00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:10.969
my clients send me a thank you note just to get

00:35:10.969 --> 00:35:15.070
in the habit of doing it. And so it's just really

00:35:15.070 --> 00:35:18.510
nice, a nice thing to do. And that starts the

00:35:18.510 --> 00:35:20.989
follow up. Love it. We can go into that afterwards.

00:35:21.309 --> 00:35:25.690
I love it. Okay. So where do professionals go?

00:35:26.269 --> 00:35:30.409
When they try turning to a networking conversation,

00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:33.829
I'm sorry, let me start again. Sure. Where do

00:35:33.829 --> 00:35:37.030
professionals go when they try to turn a networking

00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:40.650
conversation into a business opportunity too

00:35:40.650 --> 00:35:46.150
quickly? If it's too quickly, it means you haven't

00:35:46.150 --> 00:35:50.190
gone through a proper sales cycle. OK, if you're

00:35:50.190 --> 00:35:53.289
trying to bring about an actual opportunity out

00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:55.309
of your networking and you're trying to take

00:35:55.309 --> 00:35:56.789
it into some kind of a business conversation,

00:35:57.230 --> 00:35:59.030
what you're saying is I'm trying to sell them

00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:01.750
on something I can offer. I'm trying to help

00:36:01.750 --> 00:36:04.590
them with my product or service. But if you didn't

00:36:04.590 --> 00:36:07.369
go through the sales cycle and there's five steps

00:36:07.369 --> 00:36:10.989
plus one more that you must do. And it's something

00:36:10.989 --> 00:36:12.530
that I don't even think we have enough time to

00:36:12.530 --> 00:36:14.650
go through, not to the sales process, but there

00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:17.329
is a sales process. And if you don't know right

00:36:17.329 --> 00:36:20.000
now, I'm at step one. And by the way, the end

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.900
of step one has a very clear result that when

00:36:22.900 --> 00:36:24.900
you see that result in your mind, you go step

00:36:24.900 --> 00:36:28.760
one done. Now I move to step two. And then there's

00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.940
a very clear result. And then that happens. You

00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:34.179
go step two done. Step three, step four, step

00:36:34.179 --> 00:36:36.599
five. Most people don't know where they are.

00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.099
They don't know when they've reached the end

00:36:39.099 --> 00:36:42.800
of, let's say, step two. They'll stay on step

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.800
two too long or move from step two to step three

00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.119
too early. disasters you need to learn how to

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.619
sell now it's not manipulation i am against heavily

00:36:53.619 --> 00:36:57.840
against any manipulation techniques any of that

00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.239
it's just simply how do you build actually a

00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.099
relationship and how do you actually discover

00:37:03.099 --> 00:37:07.239
if you can bring value through real care okay

00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.500
ethically if you do that say again authenticity

00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:16.969
yeah you have to be authentic yeah And if you

00:37:16.969 --> 00:37:21.570
do that, okay, there won't be too soon. There'll

00:37:21.570 --> 00:37:23.889
be the person saying, please, they'll ask you,

00:37:23.969 --> 00:37:27.829
so how can we work together? Immediately, please

00:37:27.829 --> 00:37:30.449
send me a quote. I'm interested. That's how it

00:37:30.449 --> 00:37:34.010
should be. Nobody likes the guy who walks up,

00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:37.050
hands out his business card and say, look, I'm

00:37:37.050 --> 00:37:40.269
Joe Schmo from whatever. And I'll talk to you

00:37:40.269 --> 00:37:43.039
soon. Just I'll be in touch. And you look at

00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.699
the business card, everybody looks at the business

00:37:44.699 --> 00:37:47.219
card and says, you're kidding me. This went out

00:37:47.219 --> 00:37:51.340
in the 80s. And that's just the wrong step. And

00:37:51.340 --> 00:37:53.400
I'm just saying that because that's one of the

00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.699
examples that I teach what not to do. And so

00:37:57.699 --> 00:38:02.260
it goes a long way. So anyway, what questions

00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:05.360
should people be asking in networking situations

00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.599
that almost no one asks, but absolutely should?

00:38:12.170 --> 00:38:15.489
I would say that it's really different to every

00:38:15.489 --> 00:38:18.550
scenario, but the main thing is governed by,

00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:22.530
are you interested? I don't like to tell people

00:38:22.530 --> 00:38:25.690
specifically what questions to ask because I

00:38:25.690 --> 00:38:28.570
make them into a robot that goes and asks these

00:38:28.570 --> 00:38:32.230
specific questions. I don't want to create better

00:38:32.230 --> 00:38:34.630
robots. I don't make my clients into better robots.

00:38:34.750 --> 00:38:37.429
I don't teach them exact steps and techniques.

00:38:37.510 --> 00:38:40.949
I never do. Because if you have exact steps and

00:38:40.949 --> 00:38:43.639
techniques, As I said, I make you into a great

00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.539
robot, but if I make you powerful and you understand

00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:52.219
the basic principles of sales, of networking,

00:38:52.460 --> 00:38:55.320
of communication, of relationships, you'll go

00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.039
and do what you need to do. And if you think

00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.059
of anyone successful, your most favorite successful

00:39:00.059 --> 00:39:03.599
entrepreneur, they don't have a script that they

00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:09.159
follow. They are powerful enough to do what needs

00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.280
to be done to get the result. in the best, most

00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:16.840
ethical, most valuable way. So that's my approach.

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.699
You need to learn. There's a lot to learn. I

00:39:19.699 --> 00:39:22.440
can give you ideas of what to say, but then people

00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:26.199
go up and they say, hi, do you come here often?

00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:28.559
Or whatever. That's not the, you know what I'm

00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.139
saying? Yes, I know exactly what you're saying.

00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.059
You just have to be yourself and be relaxed.

00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:38.360
And it's easy for you and I to say, be relaxed,

00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.139
be yourself, be authentic. But a lot of people,

00:39:42.179 --> 00:39:46.460
when you put them into that situation, they freeze

00:39:46.460 --> 00:39:48.980
up and they don't know what to do. They either

00:39:48.980 --> 00:39:51.699
don't say anything at all or they say the wrong

00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:55.239
things. That's a whole nother podcast. How does

00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.760
someone's personal life and self -awareness show

00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.559
up in their networking results, whether they

00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:05.380
realize it or not? Okay, so you need to know

00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:08.500
what is the result that you want to achieve in

00:40:08.500 --> 00:40:11.829
your life. I'll give you an example. We were

00:40:11.829 --> 00:40:17.010
working with a real estate agent who was really,

00:40:17.150 --> 00:40:21.309
not that I'm against this at all, but very nerdy,

00:40:21.309 --> 00:40:24.110
okay? I'm not against nerdy people at all. I

00:40:24.110 --> 00:40:26.610
don't mind at all. I sometimes get called nerdy.

00:40:26.630 --> 00:40:28.969
I really don't mind, okay? But he's a real estate

00:40:28.969 --> 00:40:31.949
agent that had a kind of a nerdy look, just like

00:40:31.949 --> 00:40:36.909
one mustache, and he was trying to be like a

00:40:36.909 --> 00:40:40.849
hotshot real estate agent. He was trying to position

00:40:40.849 --> 00:40:44.329
himself as the Harvey Specter of real estate,

00:40:44.409 --> 00:40:49.929
if you watch Suits. So you need to realize in

00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:52.489
your personal life, that's not going to bring

00:40:52.489 --> 00:40:57.239
you the results to be Mr. Nerdy. Nothing against

00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.280
nerdy. If you're maybe a software engineer, be

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.820
Mr. Nerdy. And if you maybe want to be Mr. Nerdy

00:41:02.820 --> 00:41:04.820
real estate agent that knows all the facts or

00:41:04.820 --> 00:41:07.599
whatever, be that. But if you chose to be the

00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.679
Harvey Specter of real estate, then guess what?

00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.380
Be the Harvey Specter of real estate. Change

00:41:15.380 --> 00:41:20.320
how you are in order to bring about the most

00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:25.599
optimum result. Okay? And so basically with that

00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.000
specific client, he was a young guy, like 20s,

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.840
in his 20s, okay? And American guy. And he needed

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.840
to change his look. Change it, just change the,

00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:41.880
get the suit. Get the results. Speak like that.

00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:47.079
Be what you, be what will lead you to the result.

00:41:47.619 --> 00:41:52.159
If I know what my result is, I need to do certain

00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.909
things. And then I will be that thing. But if

00:41:57.909 --> 00:42:01.610
I'm not being that thing, I will not do the steps

00:42:01.610 --> 00:42:04.789
to have that result. I just won't. So, for example,

00:42:04.969 --> 00:42:09.969
if I know that my result is a child that's a

00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:15.079
contributing member of society. that's a loving,

00:42:15.219 --> 00:42:17.659
contributing member of society. At the end of

00:42:17.659 --> 00:42:19.039
the day, that's what I want my child to be. I

00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.559
want them to be, that's what I want to have with

00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.980
them. I want them to have love, success, and

00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:28.380
contribute to society. So if I know that's my

00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:31.599
result with my child, I will do certain steps

00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.219
according to that target. And then as a result,

00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:40.360
I will be a father that does X, Y, and Z. That's

00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.090
who I become, that type of father. But if I don't

00:42:45.090 --> 00:42:49.389
become that, how will I get that result? Or if

00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:51.630
I now, let's say I worked in music festivals,

00:42:51.730 --> 00:42:54.409
okay? Working in the music festival industry

00:42:54.409 --> 00:42:56.949
is very different to working in the finance industry,

00:42:57.150 --> 00:43:00.489
which I also work in the finance industry. Finance

00:43:00.489 --> 00:43:03.210
industry, I want to close massive deals. I'm

00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:04.829
working with people that are in the corporate

00:43:04.829 --> 00:43:07.650
world. There's a certain culture and I want to

00:43:07.650 --> 00:43:11.440
have the result of a growing, expanding. through

00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.099
finance business, through clients that are getting

00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:16.820
cash flow and are able to grow their lives and

00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:18.840
their businesses through the use of funding,

00:43:18.980 --> 00:43:21.699
okay? So to do that, I need to do certain things.

00:43:21.980 --> 00:43:25.719
In order to do those things, I need to be a finance

00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.099
guy that can present in a suit. I'm not going

00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:32.440
to show up wearing the same clothes that I wore

00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:34.980
when I was going to music festivals, running

00:43:34.980 --> 00:43:37.019
music festivals. I'm just not because it's not

00:43:37.019 --> 00:43:39.719
the right thing. Because I know what my result

00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.239
is and I'm not faking it. I'm just deciding to

00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:43.960
be someone else. Like, for example, when I go

00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.440
to the gym, I'm in gym clothes. That's why I'm

00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.320
being a gym goer. And later when I go to a meeting,

00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.219
I'm wearing a suit and I'm a different role at

00:43:52.219 --> 00:43:53.920
that moment. And then when I'm at home and I'm

00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:55.860
a father and I'm just hanging around in sweatpants,

00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:58.300
I'm just hanging around as a father. But I won't

00:43:58.300 --> 00:44:00.599
be a father in the business meeting. At that

00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.969
time, I'm a businessman. So you need to know

00:44:03.969 --> 00:44:06.250
what is the result. If you know your result,

00:44:06.389 --> 00:44:07.849
you'll know what to do. If you know what to do,

00:44:07.889 --> 00:44:10.989
you'll know who to be. And that's how the personal

00:44:10.989 --> 00:44:16.170
life will be affected. Good. Very good. Thank

00:44:16.170 --> 00:44:19.050
you. Okay. Let's bring this podcast full circle.

00:44:19.530 --> 00:44:23.090
If you could give listeners one guiding principle

00:44:23.090 --> 00:44:26.929
to approach every conversation, business or personal,

00:44:27.110 --> 00:44:31.210
what would it be and why does it work? Yeah.

00:44:31.530 --> 00:44:36.429
I would tell them this. You need to ensure that

00:44:36.429 --> 00:44:41.030
you actually duplicate what's said to you and

00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:45.389
make sure that others duplicate you. Now, duplicate

00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:50.090
is the word means to create an exact copy, okay?

00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:53.889
To duplicate something. When people communicate,

00:44:54.389 --> 00:44:59.429
what we are trying to do is to create a duplication.

00:45:00.250 --> 00:45:04.010
On the receiving end. So if I'm talking to you

00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:07.809
right now and I have an idea about what we should

00:45:07.809 --> 00:45:11.809
do with the business and I'm speaking to you,

00:45:11.809 --> 00:45:13.750
I have that idea in my mind of what we should

00:45:13.750 --> 00:45:15.570
do with the business. What am I trying to do?

00:45:15.650 --> 00:45:18.630
I want you to get it. I want you to get this

00:45:18.630 --> 00:45:20.869
idea, a copy in your mind. And you go, oh, I

00:45:20.869 --> 00:45:23.610
see what exactly you're thinking about. Or if

00:45:23.610 --> 00:45:27.110
I'm talking to you and I say to you, the fluffy

00:45:27.110 --> 00:45:31.000
dog with white spots. walked and ate some chicken.

00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.400
Okay, then you got the exact picture of what

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.980
I'm thinking, or it won't be the exact, but to

00:45:37.980 --> 00:45:40.280
that degree, it won't be duplicated. Or I can

00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:44.039
say I love you, and I love you if you understood

00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.960
exactly what I meant, what emotion I have, what

00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:51.079
I see when I say I love you, my feelings at the

00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.780
time, all the energy associated with the word

00:45:53.780 --> 00:45:57.199
I love you, then you've actually duplicated me

00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.610
when I say I love you. But most people hear I

00:45:59.610 --> 00:46:01.289
love you and they don't get everything that the

00:46:01.289 --> 00:46:04.010
person meant. So in communication, what are you

00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.610
trying to do? Create duplication on the receiving

00:46:06.610 --> 00:46:10.090
end. I want you to get a copy. And once you have

00:46:10.090 --> 00:46:13.670
a copy, to understand me. To understand the copy.

00:46:13.730 --> 00:46:14.969
Because sometimes you can have a copy and not

00:46:14.969 --> 00:46:17.789
understand. Like some people can sing a song

00:46:17.789 --> 00:46:20.329
in a foreign language. It's a perfect copy, but

00:46:20.329 --> 00:46:21.329
they have no idea what they're saying because

00:46:21.329 --> 00:46:24.409
it's a foreign language. So I want you to duplicate.

00:46:24.489 --> 00:46:27.210
Get a copy in your mind and understand me. And

00:46:27.210 --> 00:46:30.349
at the same time, you talk to me, I need to make

00:46:30.349 --> 00:46:34.750
sure that I actually get a copy of what you said

00:46:34.750 --> 00:46:38.909
in my mind and understand you. And if I don't,

00:46:38.909 --> 00:46:43.909
there won't be real communication because we

00:46:43.909 --> 00:46:47.349
don't really get what each other is saying. And

00:46:47.349 --> 00:46:49.010
if there's not real communication, there won't

00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:51.389
be understanding. And if there's no understanding,

00:46:51.650 --> 00:46:55.969
there's no real life there. This thing is going

00:46:55.969 --> 00:47:05.550
to die. So you need to ensure that you understand

00:47:05.550 --> 00:47:08.269
what's said to you. Ask questions. If you're

00:47:08.269 --> 00:47:10.409
reading, open a dictionary. If you run into a

00:47:10.409 --> 00:47:13.030
word you don't understand, repeat if needed.

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And you also need to be aware that when you speak

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to someone, they actually... Have a duplication.

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So don't say fancy schmancy words to sound interesting

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when the other side doesn't get what the heck

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you're saying. But you think it's cool to be

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interesting. No, that's what I'm talking about.

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No, you want them to have duplication, not for

00:47:32.300 --> 00:47:36.099
you to be the interesting one. So that is the

00:47:36.099 --> 00:47:40.750
key. Great. That's great. Gal, I can't be, I

00:47:40.750 --> 00:47:42.650
can probably talk to you for another two hours

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because you're so interesting and I'm so interested

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in what you are saying that I'm really just listening

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to every word you're saying. Listen, if any of

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the listeners would like to get hold of you,

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what's the best way? Yeah. So the best way is

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DM me, tell me that you saw me on the podcast

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today's conversation shifted the way you think

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about networking, relationships, or how you show

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up in business, don't let it end here. Take one

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idea from this episode, put it into action in

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your very next conversation and watch what changes.

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If the episode gave you value, share it with

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connections so you never miss an episode. I'm

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Michael Foreman, keeping showing up with intention,

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staying curious. And remember, your next conversation

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may be the one that changes everything. Gal,

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thank you very much for coming on the podcast.

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And I hope to speak with you soon. Likewise.

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