Welcome back to Networking Unleashed, Building
Profitable Connections. I'm your host, Michael
Forman, and today we're stripping away the noise
to talk about something powerful of building
a business that's profitable, purpose -driven,
and rooted in what you already know. My guest
has helped countless entrepreneurs launch and
scale their businesses online without ads, without
burnout, without a tech team on speed dial. Her
approach is grounded in truth. You don't need
to reinvent yourself. You just need to leverage
your experience and connect with the people you
need most. In a world obsessed with flashy tactics
and funnels, she brings us back to what actually
works, genuine relationships, value -first marketing,
and clarity in how you show up and serve. So
if you've been stuck in planning mode, overthinking
your pitch or wondering how getting traction
without selling your soul to the algorithm. This
episode is for you. Let's dive in now and let's
dive into how connection creates opportunity
and how simplicity can scale. I would like to
bring my guest in. Her name is Jean Omlor and
I hope I said that correctly. Yes, you did. Oh,
that's not bad on my first shot. Okay. It's not
bad at all. Yeah, okay. So if you would be so
kind as to just give us a little bit of your
background Okay, so I am I have been a coach
for 13 years and For eight of that I was a business
strategist business coach consultant and also
part of that executive leadership coach And I
don't know K business. It wasn't like now. I'm
a multi million dollar coach now. It was okay,
but I knew it wasn't going to just keep building
sustainably because too much of it was based
on my time being out there and networking and
there's only so much that can't scale. It is
on and there's only so much you can build with
that because it's just time. real time for money.
About six years ago, I moved to the Midwest and
the Midwestern people don't invest in their businesses
as much as New Yorkers. That's just a fact. Okay.
And I realized this is not going to work anymore
because all of my vast networking and being a
score mentor and being a, I was an ambassador
for one of the local chambers, all of that work,
which was a lot of work out there, networking,
talking, all of that is selling ice to Eskimos.
I realized I need to get online because The market
then is the whole world. So I got online about
six years ago and I figured out how to get. Clients
very simply online with no ads by just speaking
to people. And I thought I'm just going to do
this so well that I'm going to be the best person
at this. I became known for organic social media
marketing, meaning organic means not paid. And
when I got online, I did sign up for not a great
coaching. Course, but I plunk 10k down on three
extra credit cards because when I got online
almost six years ago I was in deep debt and I'm
also a single mom with two children and I thought
I need to fix this because It's not like I'm
getting any younger and it's not every day you
hear jean I'm 55 or 54 and I'm just gonna go
online and become a millionaire, but that's what
happened I got online and I fixed it. I thought,
wow, this is working so well. And people were
like, how are you doing that? No ads and figured
out the whole organic just speaking to people
and we have it dialed in. So I'm at several million
now. We've helped over 500 coaches, consultants
and online service providers like some digital
marketers. They even have some. I can have some
accounting firms and people like that, but it
works. It still works because some of the stuff
stopped working in the last three years, but
this organic social media marketing still works.
So that's what I do now. That's wonderful. That
really is. And it shows how you went from having
to do something to actually creating something
for yourself and you've made it. So that's a
feather in your cap. Let's go right into the
questions. You teach people how to turn what
they already know into a business. How does networking
with them test, refine and share that expertise
in a real world way? How does me networking with
them? Right. How does network work with them?
Test it, refine and share with the expertise
in the real world. Okay. I'll just answer this
the way that I think it's meant and tell me if
I'm wrong. Okay. So basically what I'm teaching
is a sort of networking online. It's not just
networking and wasting your time, but it is meeting
people and that's all connecting with people's
networking. That's my, my, my particular definition
of networking is not what other people are doing.
First of all, can I just tell you my difference?
Sure. Absolutely. So the difference is that people
say, Oh, I'm networking and it's just Very unfocused.
I'm just going to meet with people and hope and
see that's not how you network. So I teach people
to network, connect with people with a purpose.
And so, yes, I teach them to, because it's organic
social media marketing. So it is networking,
but properly where you're not, you're not bait
and switching people. You're not pretending they're
so interested in them, but you really want to
sell them. All that's really bad behavior. We
don't think it's bad behavior, but it actually
is. It's actually bad behavior. It's bait and
switch. Nobody feels great about a bait and switch.
I had somebody reach out to me. I really want
to hear about your services. And I thought, why?
Oh, because I want to sell you this. I said,
you actually started off telling me you want
to, but actually that wasn't it. You don't care
about my services at all. And I knew it. I was
nice about it, but I thought that is what's wrong
with how they're doing it. It's they're pretending
they're so interested in what you do. I'm genuinely
curious about what people do, of course, but
I'm not pretending that I want to hire somebody
to get them on a phone and then do a bait and
switch. And it doesn't work anyway. I don't know
why anybody would do that. So yes, we are coaching
them to leverage what they already know because
we are knowledge brokers. I think like, I'll
give you an example. I met, I was networking
with. And he said, what do you do? And I said,
and he wanted to be on my podcast, but my podcast
isn't about adventure. And he's an adventure
person. And I said, I love what you do. Cause
I love adventure. I said, but it's not the theme
of my, if I totally see that. I said, great.
So we started chatting. So it's networking. Tell
me what you do. And I said, sure. And he goes,
what is coaching? And I explained it to him.
And he said, that was a really good explanation
in three minutes. I said, yeah, trillion dollar
industry. He said, yeah, I want to retire in
the next two years. Do you think I could coach?
And I said, I don't know. You're a judge. Clearly
you're good at a lot, but what could you actually
coach people on? And he said, I've developed
a decision -making model, SOP, over the years,
and it works on everything. And I said, that
is a great offer. And he went, really? I said,
very good offer. That's decision -making coaching.
Everybody needs that. And he said, really? I
said, absolutely. Because I could see that was
something we could leverage and sell with him.
So he came in, immediately signed up, and he
had his first high ticket client within four
weeks. Guy's never sold a thing in his life.
Okay. So that is real brokering of what the goodness
and value of people. He never would have thought
of doing that. He didn't think there was a value
in leveraging all of that life experience. And
I saw that. I thought, wow, that is amazing because
he said, you need to figure out an SOP as a judge.
You can't just randomly send people to death
row. It has to be, you can't because you're angry.
And he said, it works for a lot of things. He
said, I use it for a lot of things. And it's
just, that is fantastic. So I didn't have to
teach him something. I can't teach him a thing
about decision -making. He could teach me actually.
So he already had something great in his knowledge
base, but all we needed to do was package and
sell. So that is how we use it. Very good. Okay.
So for those just starting out online, what ads
or funnels, if any, what does relationship building
play in getting traction? Okay. I'm not going
to, I'm against most ads and funnels for coaches
because they don't work. Cause I've spent about
a hundred K to be really transparent. I spent
about a hundred K after I learned the organic,
I test a bunch of stuff because that's just a
smart thing to do is to test everything. So I
thought maybe these ads will work. And if they
do, then I could certainly coach my clients on
that. They don't work. Ads do not work. And every
time somebody says I'm running ads, I always
say, Are they working? And they go, to be honest,
no. Okay. Now the only type of ad I do run is
an audience building ad on YouTube for my podcast.
And those are working great. I figured out a
way to get thousands of subscribers and real
views and subscribers for next to nothing. So
that we've been working and that's not about
clients. That's just building my podcast, which
isn't really to do with my coaching. I have a
podcast called business wealth impact, which
isn't to do with my coaching. It's a broad kind
of thing. So as far as the coaching and the businesses,
I don't, I know that some of the digital ads,
I don't mean Facebook or those there are digital
search ads that can work like on Yahoo and the
TV stations and radio stations use that kind.
And I know that those can work if you're working
with somebody that knows how to use those, but
Google ads and Facebook and Instagram and real
YouTube ads running to be hard to make those
work. In fact, I don't think it's worth it for
most businesses because they're just taking your
money. However, I do know that if you have an
expert working with you on those digital search
like Yahoo, you know that I've heard you can
get those placement ads on websites can be okay,
but I don't do those myself. I agree with you
a hundred percent. the people that I coach, the
people that I teach, I tell them almost exactly
the same thing. Listen, if you want those high
ticket clients, you have to spend a godawful
amount of money to get all that money. So is
it really worth it or would you rather find another
way? And yourself and myself, we show them how
to get there in a different way. Exactly. Because
I would love if they'd work. I would love it
that I'd maybe if I'd gotten online 13 years
ago, they would have worked. That's the everything.
You just clicked on everything and it worked
in those days. So am I a little jealous that
they stopped working that I missed out? But you
know what? I've done so well that I'm just basking
in gratitude at this point, but you can't regret
because things aren't working anymore and you've
missed the boat. Just find a new boat. Find a
new boat. That's my absolutely. Absolutely. Find
it. What's your advice for someone who thinks
that they need to have it all figured out before
they start reaching out or making a connection?
Oh, that's my favorite one. This whole thing
is just fear, right? We have to have everything
perfect. And they say lining, I'm getting my
ducks in a row. And every time I hear that I'm
groaning, I'm just like, oh, here's another perfectionist
that's scared, that's stuck. It's never going
to pull the trigger. My thing was I had to just
put line one duck up and shoot it. Oh, that's
my joke. And people laugh when I say that usually
because why are you lining ducks up? You're not
starting a multimillion dollar like operation
where you're getting like the teams in place.
No, if you're an, a solopreneur ducks lined up
very few, look at what's fear. When you ask yourself,
am I actually ever going to take action? Most
people, they really ask that hard question. No,
they're just procrastinating. And that's sad
to me. So the thing is just take one step, messy
step that you don't know what you're doing and
you get that foot in the door. Now your foot's
in the door and you can pry that door open bit
by bit. It is not about perfectionism. It's not
about perfect everything. It's not about getting
your ducks in a row and being ready for the perfect
move. It is messy and it is just take a step
already, please. And guess what? Then you see
what happened from the step. Okay, that was messy,
but something happened. Okay. I'm going to take
another step and I'm going to be in the mud now.
No successful person ever uses the word neat
or oh, it was so neat and tied up in a bow. No,
it's messy and it's mean and it's dirty and it's
not like dirty towards other people, but I mean,
it's no successful person ever high achievers
never say, oh yes, that was just so easy. And
I just get everything in a row and we didn't
get our hand. We didn't get, no, it's rolling
in the mud. It's rolling in the mud, like muddler
mud wrestling. Okay. With yourself, actually,
cause you're not wrestling anybody else. You
just take the step and do everything you can
to get out of that fear. That is just the fear
that is just stopping people in their tracks
nonstop because all it's doing is making you
just wait another day and life is short. Life
is social. I can't believe how quickly the weeks
are passing now. I'm like, oh my gosh, I got
to do more I got to get more towards my purpose.
So don't do that. It's massive messy action and
then a bit later The action is not so messy because
then you start to get it together and then it's
more Not so messy makes sense Makes a lot of
sense. I say it's slightly different. I say the
same exact thing as you I say just do it the
first time you go out You're going to suck. It's
going to be horrible, messy, disgusting. But
you made the first step. So you take from that
what you can learn from it. You go out again
and take the second step and then you learn a
little bit more. And then each time you do it,
you learn that much more. And pretty soon you'll
have your ducks in a row, but not in the beginning.
No, no, 100%. And really success is your mind
over your emotions. And all it is people are
already looking forward to, oh, if I fail, I'm
going to feel bad. It's going to be really icky
feeling. And they're really protecting how they
feel in the future. When you think about it,
right? So the way is, and it's not easy cause
we're all human and we all have feelings, right?
And I work with this every day because I want
to be bulletproof and I want to be like just
even keeled all the time that no matter what
anybody says to me, I just absorb it. I respond.
I'm not like a robot, but it's not bothering
me. It really is about getting your mind to master
your emotions all the time. And I don't mean
emotionless and don't be emotional and don't
be like a robot, but in business. And when you're
working towards something. If you're just so
afraid of having your feelings hurt or failing
and how that's going to feel, you will get nowhere
because it does hurt. Yeah. And you're really
not a business person. There are people who are
made to be a business people and people who are
not. And if you're that afraid and that if you're
really getting hurt and you're never going to
take that step, then really maybe you're not
a business person. Maybe you are because I was
like that when I started. I'll be really honest.
When I started my business, I was a baby. I just
was terrible. I was so sensitive and my coach
was she's John, you have to be not so sensitive.
And I said, I hate marketing and I don't want
to market. Cause that makes me nauseous. And
she said, you need to change and you need to
get, do you want this business? I said, I have
to have this business because I got to do this.
She said, you need to get your mind straight
and you need to. Embrace marketing and I don't
care how icky it feels to you. I'm actually feeling
it in my heart right now because I'm remembering
this conversation and sales. I didn't want to
sell. So I wouldn't say that people aren't business
people. I think that's a little harsh because
I think that we all struggle with that. Really
not wanting to sell. It really is. If I want
to be compassionate, I want to say, look, I sucked.
Okay. And I was definitely not a business person.
And I believe that everybody can develop into
a business person if they truly want to. And
then they're ready to just. fight those demons
because it's not like you're a born business
person. Some people are. I certainly was not.
It's a miracle that I got where I am. So that's
why I'm more compassionate with people about
that. That if I can do it, like anybody can do
it. That's what I really think. Okay. Okay. Sure.
I'll accept that. You help create impact and
income. This is a strong network support both,
especially in the early stages of business. Okay.
That's interesting. I was out there networking
all the time. And I had so many cards. And what
I realized after a point was what you said, a
strong network. It's not just a network because
it was just a bunch of people trying to sell
me and I was selling to them. And now when I
looked at these thousands of cards, cause I had
boxes and I thought there was no real These people
didn't really want to develop a relationship.
I wanted to, but it was real. Oh, do you want
to hire me? Okay. Next. So it's really just kind
of going through people. Do you want to hire
me next? Next? The real strong network was later
when I got online and I did have online friends
and we did help each other and we still do. So
that, that was powerful. The network of, of course
I hired coaches as well, but just my peers that
that network of support and we would run run
things by each other and I'm still even coaching
my friends here and there and they're sending
me stuff. So that did help a lot as far as my
network of coaches because there was help that
we did support a lot, but I didn't rely on that.
To be honest, I never relied on that. That's
just nice to have peers that are lovely and we
help each other, but I didn't rely on it. I relied
on myself and my marketing because that's all
you can count on is your marketing efforts every
single day. And I coach on this. You don't want
to hope to get business because there is no hope
in business. There's taking action and then seeing
what happens and the results and then picking
yourself up and taking more action. So I don't
rely on my network at all. It's just nice that
I know it's not no nice people. That's all. No,
you rely on yourself for things that you can
do in really as a business person That's all
you can really rely on. That's yourself. And
so that's the way it goes when you said the thousands
of business cards that you received in my Before
life I work corporate and I was in mortgage mortgages
and I used to go to networking events I used
to come home with a shoe box filled with business
cards and say look how good I did. Oh in reality
I didn't do well at all. All I had was business
cards and no relationships. That's that's a story
for another day. A lot of entrepreneurs struggle
to describe what they do in a way that connects.
How can networking actually help them clarify
their message? Oh, I love this. So the thing
is, before I got online, I used to actually lecture
on this and do public speaking and little mini
events. People would invite me in when I lived
in New York because I would help people to I
would say how to perfect your intro. I didn't
call it an elevator speech because I hated that
and it just seemed weird. And I would teach them
when they were networking to stop babbling so
much already. Because I start talking to somebody
and they just start throwing things and I'd be
like, Oh my gosh, I don't know this person. And
I, you're just like, Oh, I'm overwhelmed already.
So I figured out that you really want to say
very little. You just want to say two things.
You just want to say, I help XYZ type of people
get XYZ results. And then you shut up. And people
were like, this is brilliant. I'm getting clients
from this because what it does is it cuts down
the noise. So people would say to me, what are
you doing? I say, I help at this point. I'd say,
I help small business owners to explode their
sales and profits. That's all I'd say. I didn't
go, Oh, my coach. And I do this. And it's my
bat. Nothing. I would say that. And I would shut
up and take, and just shut up and lean back.
And they go up and they would sit there thinking,
wow, that was one sentence and she's not talking
anymore. And it made them think, okay. And then,
Oh, sometimes they'd be like, one guy took a
step back and he went, Oh, how do you do that?
And I said, I do this and the marketing and thought
that. And he went, Oh, Wow, I want to speak with
you." And then he ended up being a client of
mine for six years from that. He said, that one
thing you told me made me realize that I am terrible
at that. He said, because you had me at hello
and you said one sentence, yes, networking can
be very good if you just say one powerful thing
and then be quiet and let them ask you more because
talking and talking about what you do, nobody's
interested. No. I talk about this from coast
to coast, from the East Coast to the West Coast.
I go on stages. I do workshops and everything.
I tell them exactly what you just said. Awesome.
We are just synergistic, you and I. We are. I
just, I told them that, that the, that intro,
that elevator, that intro that you're, that you
talk about, you want to say just enough for them
to understand what you do and to ask you something
about it. Okay, but this is the point you're
missing. It's very, this is actually a formula
that I'm going to teach people right now. The
formula is you help whom? So that's the target
market to get what results. So the formula, and
I would give people the formula. It's I help
XYZ people get XYZ results, fill in the XYZ.
Okay. So you have to talk about, you have to
mention who it's for. Okay, so I help small business
owners or small bit. Okay, great. What are you
going to do for us? Oh, explode your sales and
profits, which is what I did. It wasn't improve
something. It wasn't provide. It was explode.
I used a really powerful verb explode. Yes. And
it made them go, wow, I've never heard that before.
So it's a way of also using words that are a
pattern disrupt that they haven't heard spouting
out of every, cause there's just this cliche.
I said, also take provide out of that sentence.
Cause it's weak. I provide really providing stuff.
So weak. I, so I would coach people and I would
do these groups that I used to coach NYU, NBA.
I'm alumni on this. Okay. Cause I lived around
the corner from New York university. But anyway,
the point is it's just who is it for? What are
the massive results that are going to knock their
socks off? Okay. That's the rule. Who and knock
the socks off. I took a long time to find those
few words. Cause I thought it's not, it's helping
them make money, but it's exploding the sales
and the profits because profits are just as important
as revenue. Cause a lot of people make a lot
of revenue and they have 2 % profit. Ah, so my
whole thing was revenue and then upping the profits
as well. And they were just like, wow, how do
you do that? I didn't say I'm a business coach.
I didn't say the words business coach because
nobody cares about my title. They just want to
know what are you going to do for us? And then
they'd say, how do you actually coach them? Oh,
you're a coach. Yeah. Oh, great. Tell me more.
Then I could expand on it because they'd asked
me permission based marketing. Get it. Absolutely.
I love what you say. I love what you talk about
because like you said, we talk about exactly
the same thing and it's so nice to hear somebody
else saying exactly what I tried to sell everybody.
I say try it because you say it a lot better
than I do. Thank you for that. Okay. Okay. So
you've built a business without complicated tech.
What now what networking habits have helped you
stay visible and valuable in a noisy online world?
focus Focus you got to say no to a bunch of stuff
I figured out something that they say figure
out something and just I sold the same program
over and over and over again It worked I wasn't
I was always looking for new things to work for
me and my clients because I experiment I spent
a hundred K and ads Okay. Cause I experiment,
I've hired a bunch of pissed a lot of frogs,
but I'm like, maybe this will work. I'll just
check it out because if it works for me, then
I'll tell my clients about it. Maybe this will
work because it works for me. So I keep doing
that still, but it's on the side. Just let's
test a bunch of stuff as well. But really what
I've all maybe moved, like I started on Facebook,
made tons of money there. And then I learned
LinkedIn as well. And then I also learned Instagram
and we had all three and sometimes Instagram
is working better than LinkedIn or Facebook or
whatever. And then they'll change algorithms.
And then we always figure out what's working
for me and my clients. And it depends on their
offer, of course, but about there's a thing that
I'm just going to plug a bunch of stuff in, keep
your eye on the prize. If something's working,
keep doing it the same way. See other alternatives,
but if it ain't, if it ain't broke, don't fix
it. Right, it is working and you know what organic
marketing still did I figure new stuff out for
sure I figured out how to start in a podcast
because I wanted to which had nothing to do with
my coaching it's about broad business wealth
and impact on purpose because I didn't want to
do a pitchy for the my coach coaching and it
was more about my purpose of business and wealth
creation for all and impact in the world and
I figured out by accident that how to monetize
that I was like wow so now I have something else
I coach my clients on and then I figured out
a new way of monetizing with Like sponsorships
and which I wasn't even trying to, and I don't
really care about that, to be honest, because
I'm a very high ticket kind of gal, but my clients
care. So I'm testing this whole model and I figured
out how to get massive amounts of views and subscribers
for next to nothing. So that's another, so I'm
always experimenting and I figure stuff out and
I'm like, wow, I discovered it's, I'm a mad scientist
with marketing, but I keep doing what's working
and I will shift it if something's working better,
but it's not about. Oh, now I'm, and of course
I tried to make the whole ads thing work, but
I thought, sure, the ads are worth it, but they
weren't, but I'd kept doing what I was doing.
So I didn't have a dip. New things are working
better in new markets. I don't know. It's just,
it's about just doing what's working and sure,
keep experimenting. Cause then you might segue
into something a bit different. I've definitely
developed, but it's still organic marketing.
When scaling. How do you maintain genuine relationships,
especially when your audience or client list
start to grow? I haven't really had a problem
with that because I don't, I'm not a McDonald's
coaching company and I didn't want to run millions
of dollars of ads and lose touch with my clients
and then have a big huge team. And then actually
the profits are so low. You're doing more works
often for fewer profits. I was like, let's make
this sustainable where my clients still have
vast access to me. And we have actually a very
generosity based model, which my clients can
book a call with me whenever they want, but they
are so well coached up with all the other coaches
and the group that they don't need a lot of one
on one. So I've worked something out that they're
so well serviced. They can certainly have it,
but I don't feel like I'm over coaching. I don't
feel like I'm burning out with the coaching at
all. And it's just worked the way we've done
it. Cause I do have other coaches. who are not
underlings, they're on the same level, but they're
doing different things. Does that make sense?
Different expertise. Makes perfect sense. Yeah,
no, that's exactly part of something similar
to that. And I think that's the only way to grow
also, because you're not limiting yourself a
lot more to offer. So I agree with that 100%.
What's one connection you made that changed your
business and what made the relationship so impactful?
There's so many, let me just think of one. I
think that my buddy that I've never actually
met in person, we met when I first got online
and we've just been like accountability partners
and friends ever since. And it's just been because
I also have coaches, but we're not coaching each
other. It's just accountability. It's been a
very beautiful relationship when we never actually
met in person. And it's been great because it's
just been somebody to run stuff by him and it's
been beautiful. So it's been a really a support.
apart from coaching and mentoring. It's just
been a, so that's been really wonderful. And
he said it was great. It's been great for him
too. So that was amazing. That's one. Okay. That's
beautiful. That's just, that's beautiful. And
you should keep that as long as you can because
that's because no money is involved or anything.
That's just, it's accountability, but it's a
good friendship as well. Sure. Works very well.
Okay. So for someone who's introverted or overwhelmed
by online marketing, what's one simple, high
impact way to start building a network that actually
matters. You're talking to the right person because
when I got online I had no traction I didn't
have any I was barely on there It was just my
friend said she could you please get on Facebook
so we can speak with you overseas and I said,
okay I would say I started off as an introvert
and people don't think I am but I think that
inter I have a different view of introvert and
I think that we all have both and a lot of it
has to do with Situations. However, there are
some deep introverts. I get it. One thing is
the one thing don't think of it as Oh my goodness.
I have to reach out to all of these strangers.
That's hard. And that's not what I did. I saw
it as one human being at a time. And when you
don't say, I'm going to post all over the place
and I'm going to bring in a flood of clients
all at once. When you say no, I'm going to do
one thing. The one thing, one thing, one human
being, I'm going to reach out to one person and
I'm going to start a conversation with one person.
What gets overwhelming for introverts is all
of that splattering all over and trying to get
a bunch of people in your funnel, which doesn't
work anyway, unless you are running ads and you're
like Russell Brunson type kind of thing. What
has worked for me and my clients is becoming
more focused on the human being in front of you.
Talk to one person and not 10 at once. You could
have conversations with more than one, but if
you want to do one thing, just reach out to one
person, start a conversation, and then start
another. So it's one thing. Wonderful. Beautiful.
Okay. So let's bring this podcast full circle.
If your business disappeared tomorrow, what connections
would you rebuild first and why? If it disappeared
tomorrow, I would still have my connections.
So I wouldn't have to rebuild them. I'm in amazing
networks. So if, even if the business went away
for me, I would be like, okay, just start again,
just finding whatever platform I got kicked.
I'm assuming, cause I'm kicked off a platform.
I just start another platform and find a new
niche and find another way of marketing. So for
me, it's just people that are good at what they
do. They're like that. Uzi slime that will slime
out and somehow find a way, right? So in some
ways you're going to be laughing. I'm like slime
because I'm going to, you know, that remember
that toy called slime? Sure. Yeah, absolutely.
Probably got all over your carpets, right? So
yes, it did. Yeah, I know. So the thing is good
people always find a way. They're going to slime
out of that. You corner them. They're going to
slime out. They're going to find another market.
And that to me it's funny i think of it that
way that people that are that also it's saying
that we're flexible and we can reinvent because
slime reinvents right and then there's one of
those action heroes does that this is they're
an action hero that slimes and then creates a
new body or something but when i think about
it yeah so good people are like that they're
plastic as we say in French that means formable
like clay right and that means they're not rigid
and you're going to corner us but we're going
to slime around and we're going to get around
and we're going to create a new market over here
in this corner over here and then we're going
to have people watching us even so that's the
way to think about yourself is to be adaptable
and I am adaptable and do I want to lose my business
that I built absolutely not could I build another
one sure I know how to Okay. Okay. Sean, this
was great. This was a wonderful podcast. I'm
so thankful that you decided to come onto my
podcast. If somebody wanted to speak to you,
hire you, talk to you, what's the best way that
they can get hold of you? Anywhere. LinkedIn,
my name. Instagram, my name. My website, which
is Lord .com, my name. Anywhere my name is, I
will answer. Also, my name, yeah, is also on
Facebook. Okay. And it's pretty original also,
your name. So there aren't too many. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one at this
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